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00:00:00.000 This is what you're fighting for.

00:00:14.160 I mean, every day you're out there.

00:00:16.880 What they're doing is blowing people off.

00:00:20.320 If you continue to look the other way and shut up,

00:00:22.960 then the oppressors, the authoritarians,

00:00:25.540 get total control and total power.

00:00:27.180 Because this is just like in Arizona.

00:00:30.140 This is just like in Georgia.

00:00:31.340 It's another element that backs them into a quarter

00:00:34.160 and shows their lies and misrepresentations.

00:00:36.420 This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.

00:00:38.720 As we've told you, this is the fight.

00:00:40.600 All this nonsense, all this spin,

00:00:42.820 they can't handle the truth.

00:00:44.560 War Room, Battleground.

00:00:46.320 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:50.080 Okay, welcome.

00:00:51.160 It is Wednesday, 26th, April, Year of Alert, 2023.

00:00:54.440 We are packed, obviously a big day

00:00:56.100 on everything related to the budget,

00:00:58.220 spending, the destruction of the American economy.

00:01:01.180 We're going to get to that a little later.

00:01:03.300 Let's start.

00:01:03.780 I think we've got Jane Zirkle.

00:01:05.000 We've got a very special show.

00:01:06.120 Jane Zirkle is live with us in Manhattan.

00:01:10.420 We also got Robert Spencer,

00:01:11.980 one of the great warriors of free speech

00:01:16.060 and the anti-communism is going to join us

00:01:18.080 from the conference, World War III, the early years.

00:01:20.660 And Dr. Bradley Thayer is going to come back today.

00:01:22.440 Let's start with Jane.

00:01:23.860 Jane Zirkle, you're in Manhattan.

00:01:26.020 Tell us where you are and why are you there, ma'am.

00:01:28.980 So I'm on the ground here outside of what was

00:01:32.240 the America Chang Li Association office buildings,

00:01:36.440 which hosted the CCP police station outpost

00:01:40.780 that was raided back in October of 2022.

00:01:44.240 And of course, two men were recently arrested for operating

00:01:47.180 because they were spying and harassing Chinese dissidents,

00:01:50.940 such as Miles Guo, who were living in the U.S.

00:01:53.900 Yeah, we've got Jane is going to report.

00:01:56.980 We've got a lot of updates.

00:01:58.520 It's gone to the, the trial's gone to the jury

00:02:01.460 in the federal case with the Fugees in Washington, D.C.

00:02:07.020 We're going to get an update from her on that.

00:02:08.880 Also, the Ministry of State Securities outpost in Manhattan.

00:02:14.060 We're going to have Nicole from New Federal State.

00:02:16.100 Jane is going to be there live.

00:02:17.300 We're going to get to all of it.

00:02:18.060 Jane, you hang on.

00:02:19.240 I'm going to come back to you shortly.

00:02:21.400 So just hang with us.

00:02:22.300 A lot going on here about the Chinese Communist Party

00:02:24.500 and their activities to stop true dissidents

00:02:27.740 as we put them on the spot on the early days

00:02:30.740 of the Third World War.

00:02:32.080 We've got a great open from the weekend.

00:02:33.860 The conference was just amazing.

00:02:35.200 The conference in Torrance, California,

00:02:37.420 put on by the American Freedom Alliance.

00:02:39.100 Let's go ahead.

00:02:39.480 We've got a clip of Robert Spencer's presentation.

00:02:42.340 Let's play that, and I'll bring Robert on.

00:02:44.780 The idea is to encourage mass migration

00:02:49.220 that will destroy the foremost nation states in the world,

00:02:53.500 which are the states of Western Europe

00:02:56.080 and the United States of America.

00:02:58.460 And then once those are destroyed, the rest is easy.

00:03:02.600 So you destroy them by bringing in all these people

00:03:06.660 who will weaken the attachment of the population

00:03:11.680 to the national culture,

00:03:14.060 weaken even knowledge of the national culture.

00:03:16.980 Meanwhile, you're doing all these things

00:03:19.680 to encourage contempt for the nation's history and culture.

00:03:24.480 And at the same time,

00:03:26.900 you have a force that you are helping

00:03:29.220 and bringing in in large numbers

00:03:31.780 that actually has been at war with the West

00:03:35.100 for 1,400 years, hates the West,

00:03:37.640 and has a very deeply ingrained sense of superiority

00:03:41.920 that is based on their own theological principles.

00:03:47.500 And so you end up with this ready-made force there

00:03:52.220 that will help you in your work of destruction.

00:03:55.300 Now, what better way to have a massive reduction

00:03:58.920 in human population than a big war?

00:04:02.760 And so you solve everything all at once.

00:04:05.260 You see, you've got people flooding into the country

00:04:08.940 who do not share the values of the country

00:04:11.240 and don't intend to.

00:04:13.120 You've got the weakening of the national character

00:04:16.580 as a result.

00:04:18.360 You've got the imperative to censor disinformation,

00:04:23.900 as it's called.

00:04:24.940 And you can accomplish all of these things

00:04:29.380 all at once by having a war.

00:04:33.360 You destroy the nation.

00:04:35.060 You reduce the population.

00:04:37.860 And you impose more authoritarian measures.

00:04:43.000 In fact, I'm not sure,

00:04:44.960 but I might be breaking California law right now.

00:04:50.120 Because on September 13th, 2022,

00:04:53.520 Gavin Newsom signed Bill 587,

00:04:59.220 which requires social media corporations

00:05:03.560 to report to the state about hate speech

00:05:08.100 and disinformation on their platforms

00:05:10.220 and what they are doing to eradicate it.

00:05:14.660 Now, what's hate speech?

00:05:16.480 Hate speech is speech the left doesn't like.

00:05:19.320 What's disinformation?

00:05:21.020 Same definition.

00:05:21.960 But these are the kinds of terms

00:05:25.940 that confuse people who don't realize

00:05:29.320 the game that's being played.

00:05:31.020 And they think, well, of course,

00:05:32.380 I'm not for hate speech.

00:05:34.420 And of course, we can't have disinformation.

00:05:36.740 And so Gavin Newsom, when he signed it,

00:05:38.660 he said, California will not stand by

00:05:41.620 and allow social media platforms

00:05:44.760 to spread hate speech and disinformation

00:05:47.620 that endangers our communities

00:05:51.340 and cuts against our fundamental principles

00:05:56.420 as a nation.

00:05:58.340 Well, in the first place,

00:05:59.620 it's that kind of initiative

00:06:00.820 that actually fights against

00:06:02.200 our fundamental principles as a nation

00:06:03.880 because the freedom of speech

00:06:05.960 is the foundation of any free society.

00:06:07.740 You don't have freedom of speech.

00:06:09.820 You're done for.

00:06:10.980 Without the power to dissent,

00:06:14.900 then the authoritarian regime is in place

00:06:17.320 and they can do whatever they want

00:06:19.360 and there's nothing you can do about it.

00:06:21.680 September 1st, 2022,

00:06:24.280 Joe Biden gave his infamous red and black speech

00:06:27.460 where he was standing in front of a couple of Marines,

00:06:31.840 which was a signal, you know,

00:06:33.720 we're going to call out force against you

00:06:36.660 if you dissent.

00:06:38.160 And he said that Donald Trump

00:06:41.220 and the MAGA Republicans

00:06:42.580 represent a threat to the very foundations

00:06:44.960 of the republic.

00:06:46.940 Now, you have to understand,

00:06:49.300 there has been political discourse

00:06:51.300 and bitter political disagreement

00:06:52.960 in the United States since 1776.

00:06:57.440 But never, not once,

00:06:59.560 never has one political leader

00:07:04.220 said of his primary opponent

00:07:06.420 that they were a threat

00:07:08.160 to the very basis

00:07:10.040 on which the republic is built.

00:07:12.520 That's the kind of language

00:07:14.040 that you have to find

00:07:16.000 in a different kind of regime

00:07:17.420 or actually the same kind of regime,

00:07:19.660 but most people don't realize

00:07:21.100 that it's already upon us.

00:07:23.940 Adolf Hitler in 1933

00:07:26.240 said that the Communist Party,

00:07:30.380 now, I'm no fan of the Communist Party,

00:07:32.340 you understand,

00:07:32.920 there are no good people

00:07:33.740 in this conflict,

00:07:35.900 but the communists were standing

00:07:38.220 in the way of his majority

00:07:40.140 in the Reichstag

00:07:41.080 to impose the Enabling Act,

00:07:43.380 which would allow him

00:07:44.380 to become a dictator.

00:07:46.460 And so he found a way

00:07:48.240 to get rid of the communists.

00:07:49.660 He blamed them for the fire

00:07:51.620 that had burned down the Reichstag,

00:07:53.520 the congressional building,

00:07:54.540 and then said

00:07:56.760 that the communists

00:07:57.660 represent a threat

00:07:58.700 to the very foundations

00:07:59.680 of the republic.

00:08:01.340 But who was the real threat

00:08:02.500 to the very foundations

00:08:03.380 of the republic?

00:08:04.320 He was.

00:08:06.380 Okay, welcome.

00:08:07.580 We now have Robert.

00:08:08.740 Robert Spencer,

00:08:09.920 I think you're probably

00:08:11.240 maybe one of the top

00:08:12.880 two or three leading experts

00:08:14.240 in this nation

00:08:15.020 about trying to suppress speech.

00:08:17.620 I mean, people should know

00:08:19.200 that Robert Spencer

00:08:20.020 has been the tip of the spear

00:08:21.800 in warning America

00:08:23.480 and fighting against

00:08:24.460 radical Islamic jihad,

00:08:26.620 not just here in this country,

00:08:28.700 where you've done

00:08:29.400 an amazing job,

00:08:30.540 but throughout the world.

00:08:31.660 In fact, I remember

00:08:32.400 even at CPAC,

00:08:33.520 I think it was 12,

00:08:34.480 10 years ago,

00:08:35.720 or 12 years ago,

00:08:37.340 Spencer got the hook

00:08:38.280 from CPAC

00:08:38.980 because he was laying down

00:08:39.840 so many truth bombs.

00:08:40.920 We had to actually have

00:08:42.000 a whole ballroom set up,

00:08:44.080 what we called

00:08:44.600 the uninvited.

00:08:45.540 We did it two years in a row.

00:08:47.480 And of course,

00:08:48.160 we drew a packed house

00:08:49.060 because Robert Spencer

00:08:49.980 is a guy that

00:08:50.820 really lays it on the line.

00:08:52.960 In this context, Robert,

00:08:54.580 and some of the things

00:08:55.300 you said and reason

00:08:56.060 I wanted to have you on

00:08:56.860 as quickly as possible

00:08:57.840 after the conference

00:08:58.860 in California,

00:09:02.300 you made a statement there

00:09:03.420 that I hope sent a chill

00:09:05.060 through the audience.

00:09:06.660 It certainly sent a chill

00:09:07.840 through my production team

00:09:09.680 as we've been putting

00:09:10.320 this together

00:09:10.960 and getting right.

00:09:11.540 Well, you said,

00:09:12.720 given this very logical,

00:09:14.300 very meaningful,

00:09:15.500 very thoughtful discussion

00:09:17.240 about free speech

00:09:18.560 in the fight

00:09:19.600 against these radical

00:09:21.140 totalitarian communists,

00:09:22.720 you said,

00:09:23.260 by the way,

00:09:24.620 I may have actually

00:09:26.480 broken the law

00:09:27.140 and given this presentation

00:09:28.180 since I'm in

00:09:28.840 Torrance, California.

00:09:30.340 Walk us through that.

00:09:31.340 I mean,

00:09:31.500 are we already losing

00:09:32.680 this Third World War?

00:09:33.660 We call it the early years.

00:09:35.220 Have we allowed

00:09:36.000 the communists

00:09:36.800 in their fifth column here

00:09:37.960 in this nation

00:09:39.200 to steal a march on us

00:09:40.340 in this regard?

00:09:42.500 Absolutely, Steve.

00:09:43.540 I wish I could say no.

00:09:44.680 But unfortunately,

00:09:46.420 they have been

00:09:47.300 very carefully

00:09:48.200 and systematically

00:09:49.200 setting up

00:09:50.640 what is essentially

00:09:51.560 an authoritarian

00:09:52.320 communist state

00:09:53.780 piece by piece,

00:09:55.340 little by little,

00:09:56.460 often on a state level,

00:09:57.860 as we see

00:09:58.520 with the California measure

00:09:59.780 that Gavin Newsom

00:10:01.020 signed into law

00:10:02.220 in September 2022.

00:10:04.140 It's plainly

00:10:05.120 against the First Amendment,

00:10:06.400 but as far as I know,

00:10:07.280 there's no challenge to it.

00:10:08.920 Nothing's being done.

00:10:10.240 It's being taken for granted.

00:10:12.060 And a whole generation

00:10:13.100 has been taught

00:10:14.140 that hate speech

00:10:15.260 is not free speech

00:10:16.440 and doesn't deserve

00:10:17.360 First Amendment protection.

00:10:19.080 Nobody ever seems

00:10:20.220 to stop and wonder,

00:10:21.460 well, what exactly

00:10:22.040 is hate speech?

00:10:22.920 Who gets to decide

00:10:24.180 what it is

00:10:25.100 and what are the penalties

00:10:26.580 or what ought to be

00:10:27.520 the penalties for it?

00:10:29.020 But obviously,

00:10:29.840 this is an initiative

00:10:30.920 that the Biden regime

00:10:32.360 is also very much part of.

00:10:35.240 They have tried

00:10:36.440 to get their

00:10:36.960 disinformation governance board

00:10:38.680 set up last year

00:10:40.280 and were stopped

00:10:41.360 because it was such

00:10:42.920 a flagrant violation

00:10:44.240 of the First Amendment

00:10:45.180 in such an obvious way

00:10:47.120 that they were stymied.

00:10:48.840 But that doesn't mean

00:10:49.900 they just give up

00:10:50.720 and suddenly decide

00:10:51.680 to renew their appreciation

00:10:53.320 of the First Amendment.

00:10:54.640 On the contrary,

00:10:55.520 they just find

00:10:56.680 different ways

00:10:57.900 to do it

00:10:58.800 in a stealthy manner

00:11:00.020 that doesn't attract

00:11:01.380 general attention.

00:11:02.560 And then they can get

00:11:04.600 it all done

00:11:05.340 without our even realizing

00:11:07.180 until one day

00:11:08.260 we wake up

00:11:09.360 and find

00:11:09.960 that there's all manner

00:11:12.060 of speech

00:11:12.600 that's prescribed

00:11:13.380 that will get you canceled,

00:11:15.880 that will now

00:11:16.760 get you prosecuted,

00:11:18.540 and then arrests will come.

00:11:21.860 All manner of things

00:11:23.000 come from that.

00:11:25.000 We just had this situation

00:11:26.600 with the guy

00:11:27.620 that did the memes

00:11:28.740 about Clinton

00:11:30.860 and the 2016 campaign.

00:11:32.900 But I want to pull

00:11:33.400 the camera back

00:11:34.000 for a second

00:11:34.480 because I want to connect

00:11:35.520 these or have you

00:11:36.200 connect them.

00:11:37.240 You've been one

00:11:37.800 of the great fighters

00:11:38.720 and warriors

00:11:39.400 defending the Judeo-Christian West

00:11:42.040 for many decades now

00:11:43.940 about this whole concept

00:11:44.980 of radical Islam.

00:11:46.100 And I remember

00:11:46.380 one of the first things

00:11:47.000 you told me

00:11:47.460 is that hey,

00:11:49.180 and I think you

00:11:50.720 and Trevor Lab

00:11:51.580 might call it red and green

00:11:52.680 or because in London,

00:11:54.700 the time I spent in London,

00:11:55.600 I said it really shocks me

00:11:56.960 how many of these leftists

00:11:58.560 work hand in glove

00:11:59.660 with the radical jihadists.

00:12:02.260 And it doesn't seem

00:12:03.180 like they have a lot

00:12:03.820 in common

00:12:04.320 except for their hatred

00:12:05.280 of the Judeo-Christian West

00:12:07.260 and particularly speech.

00:12:09.940 Is that what we're seeing

00:12:11.060 here in this,

00:12:12.700 because now you have

00:12:13.580 this murder,

00:12:14.140 you have the Chinese Communist Party,

00:12:15.520 you have the KGB in Moscow,

00:12:16.740 you have the Mullahs in Iran,

00:12:18.560 you're seeing now

00:12:19.280 in the Gulf Emirates

00:12:20.100 there are a lot of guys

00:12:20.860 saying in Iraq

00:12:21.980 and the House of Saud,

00:12:23.460 hey, let's just do our trade

00:12:25.120 and let's get off petrodollars.

00:12:26.780 Is this coming to fruition

00:12:28.820 where you're seeing

00:12:30.200 a merger of some

00:12:31.280 of the elements

00:12:32.020 when you talk about Persia

00:12:33.240 and the Mullahs there

00:12:34.280 and you got, you know,

00:12:36.140 Qatar in the Gulf,

00:12:38.680 you see some of the most

00:12:39.420 radical elements

00:12:40.300 of this Islamic supremacy

00:12:44.160 merging with some

00:12:46.120 of the other bad elements

00:12:47.300 in this third world war, sir?

00:12:50.220 Yes, absolutely, Steve.

00:12:51.800 They go hand in hand

00:12:52.880 because you have both

00:12:55.040 are basically authoritarian.

00:12:57.740 That is the left

00:12:58.720 and the jihad groups

00:13:01.520 and Sharia countries.

00:13:04.080 Sharia itself

00:13:04.840 is basically authoritarian.

00:13:06.680 That is Islamic law.

00:13:08.500 It is both the left

00:13:09.960 and Sharia

00:13:11.260 are based on a reign of terror.

00:13:13.040 Every time the left

00:13:13.800 has been in power,

00:13:14.800 they impose a reign of terror.

00:13:16.800 They try to terrorize

00:13:18.280 the population

00:13:19.000 into submission

00:13:19.820 by killing their enemies,

00:13:21.520 by arresting people

00:13:22.880 on a more or less

00:13:23.600 arbitrary basis

00:13:24.740 for minor offenses

00:13:26.160 and the rest of the population

00:13:28.480 is frightened into submission.

00:13:30.660 Now, that's exactly

00:13:31.280 what Islamic law

00:13:32.380 essentially does

00:13:33.560 by saying,

00:13:34.960 okay, you do this,

00:13:36.220 we'll cut off your hand,

00:13:37.320 you commit adultery,

00:13:38.640 you're stoned to death,

00:13:39.940 you do these various

00:13:41.440 other offenses,

00:13:42.340 you are brutalized

00:13:43.100 in other ways.

00:13:44.140 It creates virtue

00:13:45.980 by means of fear.

00:13:47.300 And so also,

00:13:50.540 in line with that,

00:13:52.820 Islam is also

00:13:53.860 basically authoritarian

00:13:56.080 because the vision of Allah

00:13:58.580 in the Quran

00:13:59.500 and in Islamic tradition

00:14:00.940 is of essentially

00:14:02.860 an absolute ruler

00:14:04.120 who is not even bound

00:14:05.980 by the good

00:14:08.700 or evil distinction.

00:14:10.360 He can do whatever he wants.

00:14:12.600 So for example,

00:14:13.460 the Quran says

00:14:14.220 if Allah had wanted to,

00:14:15.500 he could have brought

00:14:16.260 everybody to the truth

00:14:17.580 but instead,

00:14:18.800 he's going to fill hell

00:14:19.920 with human beings.

00:14:21.880 That's chapter 32,

00:14:22.920 verse 13 of the Quran.

00:14:24.380 So the point is

00:14:25.380 that that terrorizes you

00:14:27.320 into submission as well.

00:14:29.060 You figure,

00:14:29.640 well, he just might throw me

00:14:30.740 into hell

00:14:31.180 just for nothing.

00:14:32.520 I better toe the line

00:14:33.600 and hope I can stay

00:14:34.520 on his good side.

00:14:35.800 It creates a vision

00:14:36.940 for society

00:14:37.840 of the same kind

00:14:39.180 of capricious

00:14:40.140 authoritarian ruler.

00:14:41.780 And Muhammad

00:14:42.220 is supposed to have said

00:14:43.380 in a hadith,

00:14:44.100 he's depicted as saying,

00:14:46.460 obey your ruler

00:14:47.360 even if he is an Ethiopian

00:14:48.860 with a head like a raisin.

00:14:50.520 People usually quote that

00:14:51.600 to say,

00:14:51.980 oh, see,

00:14:52.360 Muhammad was a racist.

00:14:53.500 And that's a fair point.

00:14:54.980 But I think

00:14:55.520 the most important aspect

00:14:56.780 of that statement

00:14:57.580 is that he's trying

00:14:58.600 to think of the most

00:14:59.840 outlandish person he can

00:15:01.380 and that's the Ethiopian.

00:15:03.120 But he's saying

00:15:03.740 you will even obey him.

00:15:05.680 And so Islam

00:15:06.700 throughout history,

00:15:07.760 in my book,

00:15:08.660 The History of Jihad,

00:15:09.500 I show it,

00:15:10.340 1400 years,

00:15:11.720 there's never been

00:15:12.800 a republic

00:15:13.460 or a democracy.

00:15:16.120 It's all authoritarian regime

00:15:17.800 after authoritarian regime.

00:15:19.820 Turkey is often cited

00:15:21.020 as an exception,

00:15:21.980 but Turkey actually

00:15:22.700 was founded

00:15:23.360 on the basis

00:15:24.480 of a rejection

00:15:25.280 of political Islam.

00:15:27.420 And so you have

00:15:28.560 this authoritarian religion

00:15:30.140 and you have

00:15:31.000 these authoritarian

00:15:31.680 internationalists

00:15:33.000 who want to destroy

00:15:34.180 republics

00:15:37.140 and create this

00:15:38.180 international authoritarian regime.

00:15:40.660 They know they can't

00:15:41.500 stamp out religion.

00:15:42.600 The Soviet Union

00:15:43.280 tried to stamp out religion.

00:15:44.740 It proved impossible.

00:15:45.960 It's a universal human impulse.

00:15:47.880 So they found a religion

00:15:49.420 that they can work with,

00:15:51.240 that they like,

00:15:52.220 because it lends itself

00:15:53.720 to their agenda.

00:15:55.300 And so I think

00:15:55.840 that's one of the reasons

00:15:56.760 why we're seeing

00:15:57.640 the encouragement

00:15:58.420 of mass migration

00:15:59.700 of Muslims

00:16:00.660 into Western Europe

00:16:01.900 and to a secondary degree

00:16:03.580 into North America

00:16:04.560 to foster an acceptance

00:16:08.100 for authoritarianism,

00:16:09.860 as well as, of course,

00:16:11.020 weakening the native culture

00:16:13.120 and national character

00:16:14.200 of the various states involved.

00:16:16.380 When we talk about

00:16:17.260 the Judeo-Christian West,

00:16:18.700 is it your belief

00:16:19.680 that our, quote-unquote,

00:16:21.440 allies,

00:16:22.900 who are so focused

00:16:23.780 on Ukraine,

00:16:24.580 although they're not

00:16:25.140 paying for any of it,

00:16:26.540 do you believe

00:16:26.980 our allies in Western Europe

00:16:28.340 have already essentially lost

00:16:30.760 to the reality

00:16:32.200 of radical Islamic jihad?

00:16:35.560 Yeah, we're looking

00:16:36.520 at something

00:16:37.080 that is going

00:16:38.300 to radically transform

00:16:39.640 those states

00:16:40.520 within the next few decades.

00:16:42.720 You just look

00:16:43.520 at the demographics,

00:16:44.720 look at the numbers,

00:16:45.800 look at the birth rates,

00:16:47.280 and you're looking

00:16:48.540 at Muslim majorities

00:16:49.780 in France, Germany,

00:16:51.440 Britain, and elsewhere

00:16:52.420 by the end of this century

00:16:54.140 and probably before.

00:16:55.660 And then you've got

00:16:56.460 to deal with the prospect

00:16:57.520 of a nuclear-armed

00:16:59.240 Islamic Republic of France

00:17:00.840 that's hostile

00:17:01.940 to the United States.

00:17:04.380 And it's going

00:17:05.600 to change

00:17:06.540 the geopolitical situation

00:17:08.040 in ways that are

00:17:09.040 unimaginable

00:17:09.660 at this point.

00:17:12.060 Real quickly,

00:17:12.960 we've got to bounce,

00:17:13.920 but I want to have you

00:17:14.440 back on for a deeper discussion.

00:17:15.820 But, Jess,

00:17:16.340 you've also been

00:17:17.680 one of the guys

00:17:18.360 that have warned us

00:17:18.940 about the Mullahs

00:17:20.020 and the Ayatollah

00:17:20.940 in Persia, in Iran.

00:17:23.060 Is this long-term relationship

00:17:24.560 that they have

00:17:25.080 with the CCP,

00:17:27.360 does that make them

00:17:28.660 the Chinese Communist Party's

00:17:30.000 big partner

00:17:31.060 in the Middle East,

00:17:31.900 and does that change

00:17:32.860 the dynamic

00:17:33.600 around our ally Israel?

00:17:36.940 Oh, yeah,

00:17:37.740 very much so.

00:17:38.780 See, when Trump was there

00:17:40.720 and he was overseeing

00:17:42.980 the Abraham Accords,

00:17:44.780 then the Sunni states

00:17:46.900 were banding together

00:17:49.120 with Israel

00:17:50.180 in view of the Iran threat.

00:17:53.640 And now,

00:17:54.600 Biden is in,

00:17:55.620 the Biden regime,

00:17:56.620 the people running Biden.

00:17:58.320 They hate the Abraham Accords.

00:18:00.040 They hate Israel.

00:18:01.560 They tried to get

00:18:02.820 an accord with Iran themselves,

00:18:05.120 but then the massive protests

00:18:07.200 in Iran

00:18:07.680 made that impossible.

00:18:09.140 China steps in

00:18:10.240 and fosters the accord

00:18:12.080 between Saudi and Iran.

00:18:13.740 This completely undercuts

00:18:15.360 the Abraham Accords.

00:18:16.560 Not only did Netanyahu

00:18:18.060 want to build,

00:18:19.360 not want to bring in Saudi

00:18:21.020 into the Abraham Accords,

00:18:22.960 but it also undercuts

00:18:23.940 the states

00:18:24.540 that are already there

00:18:26.400 because if the Saudis

00:18:28.540 can come to an accord

00:18:29.760 with Iran,

00:18:30.720 then it opens up

00:18:32.460 the prospect

00:18:33.040 that they can too

00:18:34.140 and they don't need

00:18:35.000 to have an alliance

00:18:36.420 with Israel,

00:18:37.360 which is objectionable

00:18:39.560 to a large segment

00:18:40.920 of the populations

00:18:41.920 in each of the Abraham Accords

00:18:43.620 countries

00:18:44.160 on Islamic theological principles.

00:18:47.180 Robert,

00:18:47.860 how do people get

00:18:48.540 to your writings

00:18:49.140 in your book

00:18:49.840 and all your books

00:18:51.660 you've done

00:18:52.080 and particularly

00:18:52.660 your social media?

00:18:53.580 How do people

00:18:54.080 catch up with you?

00:18:56.400 Thanks, Steve.

00:18:57.680 I'm heavily shadowbanned,

00:18:58.980 but I can still be found

00:19:00.080 at Jihad Watch RS.

00:19:02.080 That's J-I-H-A-D Watch RS

00:19:04.020 on Twitter.

00:19:05.460 Got the website

00:19:06.240 JihadWatch.org

00:19:07.460 where we still track

00:19:08.360 jihad activity,

00:19:09.260 but we've also added

00:19:10.080 the left column

00:19:10.900 which now tracks

00:19:12.220 some of the left's attempts

00:19:14.120 to encroach

00:19:14.780 upon our freedoms.

00:19:15.960 The new book,

00:19:16.560 The Sumter Gambit,

00:19:17.500 How the Left is Trying

00:19:18.220 to Foment a Civil War.

00:19:19.740 It's available

00:19:20.540 wherever there are books,

00:19:21.920 still on Amazon,

00:19:22.980 at least for now.

00:19:23.860 I also have a new book

00:19:25.200 called The Critical Quran

00:19:26.200 which is a new translation,

00:19:27.920 an honest translation

00:19:28.960 unlike many others,

00:19:30.320 and commentary

00:19:31.560 to help you understand

00:19:32.940 why this book

00:19:34.180 causes so much conflict.

00:19:36.460 Robert,

00:19:37.020 you're one of the true

00:19:37.920 patriots in this country

00:19:39.180 and you've risked so much

00:19:40.340 including your life,

00:19:42.020 your fortune,

00:19:42.780 your sacred honor,

00:19:43.880 your pursuit of happiness.

00:19:45.020 You're a great patriot

00:19:46.000 to this country,

00:19:46.820 so we're honored

00:19:47.600 to have you on here.

00:19:48.220 Looking forward

00:19:48.520 to having you back on again.

00:19:50.280 Thank you, sir.

00:19:51.960 Robert Spencer

00:19:52.580 has given a lot

00:19:53.200 for his country

00:19:53.860 and for the entire civilization

00:19:55.900 of the Judeo-Christian West.

00:19:58.260 Let's go to Rome

00:19:59.140 and bring our own

00:19:59.800 Ben Harnwell.

00:20:00.720 Ben,

00:20:01.580 you brought this up.

00:20:02.740 I want everybody

00:20:03.580 to understand

00:20:04.100 we're in a dogfight

00:20:04.860 right now,

00:20:05.220 this big vote

00:20:05.800 that's going on

00:20:07.100 on the debt ceiling

00:20:08.360 and everything

00:20:08.880 on the debt ceiling aspect

00:20:10.120 and quite frankly,

00:20:11.200 as people know,

00:20:11.940 we're not ecstatic

00:20:12.880 with this first cut of this.

00:20:14.840 We don't think

00:20:15.180 it goes deep enough

00:20:16.000 and one of the reasons

00:20:16.700 is I keep warning people

00:20:18.140 that don't just assume

00:20:20.580 that we're going to be

00:20:21.660 the prime reserve currency

00:20:22.720 and being the prime reserve currency

00:20:24.180 has so many benefits.

00:20:25.480 It has lots of obligations,

00:20:26.560 but it has benefits.

00:20:28.060 Even if we didn't want

00:20:29.100 to be the prime reserve currency

00:20:30.840 and take the dollar off that,

00:20:32.420 it should be a process

00:20:33.420 that we think it through

00:20:34.540 and figure out

00:20:35.300 how to get off it.

00:20:36.660 Not like what happened

00:20:37.720 to England

00:20:38.200 after World War II

00:20:39.700 and one of the reasons

00:20:40.380 England had,

00:20:41.160 you know,

00:20:42.020 decades of just

00:20:43.360 what I call

00:20:43.960 the great time

00:20:44.780 in England

00:20:45.680 was before Thatcher

00:20:47.880 was because of losing

00:20:48.940 the pound

00:20:49.380 as the prime reserve currency,

00:20:50.860 obviously predicated

00:20:51.720 upon all the huge losses

00:20:53.120 they'd had in the war.

00:20:55.400 Ben,

00:20:55.980 you finally today,

00:20:56.840 you pointed out to me,

00:20:57.560 Foreign Policy Magazine

00:20:58.860 puts up what the war

00:21:00.360 has been talking about

00:21:01.040 for a couple of years,

00:21:01.700 but I think it's very important

00:21:02.600 to understand

00:21:03.120 that the establishment now

00:21:04.360 is sitting there going,

00:21:05.640 hey,

00:21:05.820 this de-dollarization thing

00:21:07.260 looks like the bricks

00:21:08.480 and that's why

00:21:09.360 I need everybody

00:21:09.820 to go to

00:21:10.120 birchgold.com

00:21:11.000 slash Bannon

00:21:11.640 to get the whole aspect,

00:21:13.160 the whole thing

00:21:13.720 with the teachings

00:21:15.280 we've been putting up

00:21:16.280 about gold.

00:21:17.440 And I keep saying

00:21:18.280 that you've got

00:21:19.480 to go to

00:21:19.740 birchgold.com

00:21:20.580 slash Bannon

00:21:21.360 to get the third episode,

00:21:22.700 the third installment

00:21:23.380 on the debt debate,

00:21:25.940 but read all of them

00:21:27.240 and then also go

00:21:28.160 and all the rest

00:21:29.080 about birch gold

00:21:29.720 because the bricks,

00:21:31.760 the global south,

00:21:32.780 they have the resources

00:21:33.480 are literally going,

00:21:34.880 I think,

00:21:35.120 to a gold-backed system,

00:21:36.280 but tell me

00:21:36.660 what foreign policy says,

00:21:38.400 Brother Harnwell.

00:21:42.000 Steve,

00:21:42.500 good afternoon to you.

00:21:43.660 I have to say

00:21:44.300 before I start this,

00:21:45.700 I feel unworthy

00:21:47.280 following Robert Spencer.

00:21:49.560 Yeah.

00:21:51.180 He's a giant,

00:21:52.180 but you're getting there,

00:21:53.940 Ben,

00:21:54.160 you're getting there

00:21:54.740 slowly but surely.

00:21:58.400 Steve Cortez

00:21:59.320 had a great expression

00:22:00.500 on the show

00:22:01.220 this morning

00:22:01.740 when he said

00:22:02.260 that the mainstream media

00:22:03.440 was following

00:22:04.460 in water skis

00:22:06.820 in the wake

00:22:07.520 created

00:22:08.340 by the war room.

00:22:10.320 And I smiled at that.

00:22:11.660 That's a brilliant expression.

00:22:12.440 And it's often true.

00:22:13.680 There are so many stories

00:22:14.800 that you think,

00:22:15.820 you know,

00:22:16.800 why is Steve Bannon

00:22:17.920 talking about this?

00:22:19.100 No one in the media

00:22:19.900 is talking about this.

00:22:20.980 You know,

00:22:21.160 what's going on?

00:22:23.040 Where's the buzz here

00:22:24.200 in the news cycle?

00:22:25.460 And then like

00:22:25.860 six months,

00:22:26.740 nine months,

00:22:27.240 a year later,

00:22:28.400 then everyone

00:22:29.080 starts talking about it.

00:22:30.240 So you start to realise

00:22:31.640 just how far

00:22:32.640 the game

00:22:33.560 the war room is.

00:22:35.720 As you say,

00:22:36.540 this is an interesting story,

00:22:38.660 not only because

00:22:39.260 it's in foreign policy,

00:22:41.760 Magni,

00:22:42.120 which I obviously read

00:22:43.400 every single day.

00:22:44.760 But this is their lead article

00:22:45.980 today on their site.

00:22:48.720 And this material

00:22:50.120 might be new

00:22:50.780 for a lot of people.

00:22:51.420 It won't be new

00:22:52.260 for the war room posse.

00:22:55.560 Yeah, Memphis.

00:22:56.280 Go and put up the story itself.

00:22:59.640 Let's put up

00:23:00.000 why Ben talks.

00:23:01.020 Go ahead, Ben.

00:23:01.600 Continue on.

00:23:02.560 Yeah.

00:23:03.660 The author of this article

00:23:05.940 is actually

00:23:06.780 an old colleague,

00:23:08.080 I think,

00:23:08.420 of yours,

00:23:09.340 Steve Cortez's,

00:23:10.420 and Dr. Navarro.

00:23:11.680 He's a guy called

00:23:12.540 Joseph W. Sullivan,

00:23:14.480 who is a special advisor

00:23:15.960 and staff economist

00:23:17.420 at the White House

00:23:18.680 Council of Economic Advisors

00:23:20.380 during the Trump administration.

00:23:21.640 So not only are they

00:23:22.860 following on

00:23:23.640 here,

00:23:24.280 foreign policy,

00:23:25.060 is it following on

00:23:25.840 in the war room's wake,

00:23:27.760 but unusually,

00:23:28.900 perhaps,

00:23:29.260 for such a

00:23:30.020 deeply establishment organ,

00:23:31.900 they've actually tapped

00:23:32.820 someone within

00:23:34.320 the MAGA

00:23:35.280 environment

00:23:37.920 to put forward

00:23:40.860 these arguments.

00:23:42.100 It's not in

00:23:43.280 deeply economic

00:23:44.600 or deeply financial

00:23:45.980 language.

00:23:47.080 So I do recommend

00:23:48.760 the war in posse

00:23:49.500 just to go there,

00:23:51.000 have a look at it.

00:23:51.980 And there are some

00:23:52.500 great lines in here.

00:23:53.740 I'll start off with this one.

00:23:55.200 I'm just right at the beginning.

00:23:57.840 This is a quote

00:23:58.860 from Lula,

00:24:00.100 the Brazilian president.

00:24:01.880 Every night,

00:24:02.540 he says,

00:24:03.400 he asks himself

00:24:04.260 why all countries

00:24:06.020 have to base

00:24:06.840 their trade

00:24:07.560 on the dollar.

00:24:09.500 Importantly,

00:24:10.120 crucially,

00:24:10.460 he actually made that

00:24:11.200 statement

00:24:11.740 in Beijing.

00:24:14.620 And the article

00:24:15.860 goes on to say

00:24:16.660 that

00:24:17.220 talking about

00:24:18.580 the concept

00:24:19.240 of the BRICS

00:24:20.200 countries

00:24:20.780 establishing

00:24:21.820 their own currency,

00:24:23.560 that such a currency

00:24:24.620 in terms of GDP

00:24:26.200 would not only

00:24:27.040 simply match

00:24:29.380 that of

00:24:30.280 the United States

00:24:31.360 economy,

00:24:32.500 it would actually

00:24:33.420 exceed

00:24:35.700 the seven members

00:24:37.380 of the G7

00:24:38.920 altogether.

00:24:39.520 This is how big

00:24:40.460 this concept is

00:24:42.000 and how much

00:24:43.200 it will

00:24:43.980 challenge

00:24:45.620 the whole

00:24:47.880 of the financial

00:24:48.540 infrastructure

00:24:49.060 in the future,

00:24:49.580 but certainly

00:24:50.020 the interest

00:24:50.880 that the United States

00:24:52.560 has

00:24:53.040 in having the dollar

00:24:55.600 up until now

00:24:56.420 as the currency

00:24:57.920 of the reserve currency

00:25:00.680 and an ultimate

00:25:03.000 settlement.

00:25:03.920 Interestingly,

00:25:04.820 I just want to

00:25:05.620 point out

00:25:06.520 one section

00:25:08.780 here,

00:25:09.400 which I think

00:25:10.300 is going

00:25:10.780 to be

00:25:11.520 the issue

00:25:12.900 on which

00:25:13.500 the United States

00:25:14.260 tries to fight

00:25:15.560 back against

00:25:16.400 this alternative

00:25:17.400 global currency.

00:25:19.280 I remember

00:25:19.760 that you said

00:25:20.460 that you've

00:25:21.320 popularised,

00:25:22.040 I think,

00:25:22.340 for a lot of people

00:25:22.920 this idea

00:25:23.440 of the

00:25:23.780 Thucydides trap

00:25:25.120 where warfare

00:25:26.400 can break

00:25:27.360 out when

00:25:27.960 a dominant

00:25:28.500 but declining

00:25:29.260 power is

00:25:30.340 overtaken

00:25:31.020 by an

00:25:31.940 emerging

00:25:32.620 hegemon.

00:25:35.040 And I wonder

00:25:35.780 reading this article

00:25:37.280 and listening

00:25:37.960 to the war room

00:25:38.680 itself,

00:25:39.640 what the United

00:25:40.620 States will

00:25:41.680 do in order

00:25:42.540 to protect

00:25:43.120 its progatives

00:25:44.060 that are vested

00:25:46.000 in King

00:25:47.400 Dollar.

00:25:48.880 Specifically,

00:25:50.100 specifically,

00:25:51.760 and when I say

00:25:52.280 the United States,

00:25:52.860 I do mean the

00:25:53.700 military-industrial

00:25:54.780 complex,

00:25:55.960 will the people

00:25:58.240 who probably

00:25:59.320 have most

00:25:59.980 to gain

00:26:00.820 in maintaining

00:26:02.240 this tool

00:26:03.000 of potential

00:26:04.160 economic warfare

00:26:05.760 to do with

00:26:06.260 sanctions,

00:26:06.840 will they be

00:26:07.860 prepared to

00:26:08.740 let the dollar

00:26:09.620 go gently

00:26:10.800 into that dark

00:26:11.640 night?

00:26:11.960 I don't think

00:26:12.620 so.

00:26:12.940 I don't remotely

00:26:13.480 think so.

00:26:15.640 And here,

00:26:16.680 I think,

00:26:17.380 is where the

00:26:18.100 issue is going,

00:26:18.940 the fightback

00:26:19.460 is going to be.

00:26:21.000 Specifically,

00:26:22.200 Joseph Sullivan

00:26:22.980 indicates that

00:26:24.060 one of the

00:26:24.760 reasons that's

00:26:25.300 going to make

00:26:25.860 the BRICS

00:26:26.960 countries starting

00:26:28.140 a new currency

00:26:28.880 so much easier

00:26:30.100 is that collectively

00:26:31.080 they have a

00:26:32.040 massive balance,

00:26:33.660 a balance of

00:26:35.020 trade surplus.

00:26:36.060 I think it's

00:26:36.400 like some

00:26:36.660 360 or something

00:26:39.020 billion.

00:26:39.800 I'm going to

00:26:40.120 give away for the

00:26:41.120 break and then I'll

00:26:41.560 come back and

00:26:41.980 finish this point,

00:26:42.680 Steve.

00:26:43.300 I'll go through

00:26:43.760 the break.

00:26:44.800 I've got

00:26:45.160 Dr. Bradley

00:26:46.420 Thayer,

00:26:47.440 one of the top

00:26:48.080 experts in this.

00:26:48.860 Also, we're going

00:26:49.360 to go to New York.

00:26:50.100 We're going to

00:26:50.940 talk about the

00:26:51.460 Ministry of State

00:26:52.100 Security.

00:26:52.600 Jane Zirkle's

00:26:53.360 there outside

00:26:53.880 their old

00:26:54.320 headquarters police

00:26:55.020 station in

00:26:55.580 Chinatown.

00:26:56.620 We're going to

00:26:56.900 bring in Nicole

00:26:57.640 from the new

00:26:58.740 federal state of

00:26:59.500 China also to

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00:31:58.620 Harnwell

00:31:59.120 Ben

00:31:59.740 hit

00:32:00.680 the punch

00:32:02.300 line here

00:32:02.660 because

00:32:03.120 this is

00:32:04.680 you know

00:32:04.900 it's like

00:32:05.240 and I know

00:32:05.940 it's kind

00:32:06.220 of overused

00:32:06.660 Dave

00:32:06.840 it's like

00:32:07.320 Hemingway

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00:32:09.640 slowly

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00:32:11.400 and the

00:32:13.680 reason I've

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00:32:14.400 the reason

00:32:14.920 I've been

00:32:15.280 on this

00:32:15.980 for a couple

00:32:16.440 of years

00:32:16.820 is that

00:32:17.320 this is

00:32:17.740 so fundamental

00:32:18.720 to our

00:32:19.580 nation's

00:32:19.980 economic

00:32:20.320 health

00:32:20.740 and we're

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00:32:21.460 if we make

00:32:22.040 a decision

00:32:22.420 not to be

00:32:22.860 the prime

00:32:23.140 reserve

00:32:23.360 currency

00:32:23.760 it ought

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00:32:24.620 decision

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00:32:25.360 do

00:32:25.520 it

00:32:25.680 right

00:32:26.480 now

00:32:26.900 greatest

00:32:27.840 enemy

00:32:28.160 this

00:32:28.400 country

00:32:28.660 has

00:32:28.780 ever

00:32:28.940 had

00:32:29.120 the

00:32:29.260 greatest

00:32:29.500 existential

00:32:29.920 threat

00:32:30.400 this

00:32:30.600 country

00:32:30.840 has

00:32:30.960 ever

00:32:31.120 had

00:32:31.360 the

00:32:31.540 Chinese

00:32:31.780 Communist

00:32:32.120 Party

00:32:32.460 in cahoots

00:32:33.600 with the

00:32:33.940 certain elements

00:32:34.620 of the

00:32:34.820 administrative

00:32:35.180 state

00:32:35.540 in our

00:32:35.760 country

00:32:36.100 and tech

00:32:37.400 and financial

00:32:38.120 oligarchs

00:32:39.360 are driving

00:32:39.820 and making

00:32:40.120 this decision

00:32:40.720 for us

00:32:41.220 and once

00:32:41.920 that happens

00:32:43.060 you're not

00:32:43.360 gonna be

00:32:43.580 unwinded

00:32:44.340 we're gonna

00:32:44.620 be a very

00:32:44.980 different

00:32:45.240 country

00:32:45.640 all

00:32:46.580 I want

00:32:47.100 you to

00:32:47.260 go back

00:32:47.640 about

00:32:47.800 the

00:32:47.940 trade

00:32:48.140 surpluses

00:32:48.680 the

00:32:49.280 global

00:32:49.620 south

00:32:50.020 has

00:32:50.360 the

00:32:50.540 resources

00:32:51.040 you know

00:32:52.260 we have

00:32:52.820 the

00:32:52.980 ability

00:32:53.360 of

00:32:53.640 finance

00:32:54.100 and

00:32:54.320 technology

00:32:54.760 other

00:32:54.940 but

00:32:55.100 they

00:32:55.300 have

00:32:55.560 the

00:32:55.720 raw

00:32:55.920 material

00:32:56.220 the

00:32:56.400 resources

00:32:56.780 the

00:32:56.980 way

00:32:57.120 the

00:32:57.280 world

00:32:57.480 works

00:32:57.820 and now

00:32:58.240 they're

00:32:58.400 going

00:32:58.620 to

00:32:58.780 essentially

00:32:59.200 a

00:32:59.480 gold

00:32:59.760 backed

00:33:00.060 system

00:33:00.540 with

00:33:01.420 those

00:33:01.600 natural

00:33:01.900 resources

00:33:02.400 and it's

00:33:02.920 going

00:33:03.020 to

00:33:03.460 totally

00:33:03.820 upend

00:33:04.360 the

00:33:05.080 world

00:33:05.280 financial

00:33:05.660 system

00:33:06.080 Ben

00:33:06.320 Harnamall

00:33:06.660 it

00:33:08.400 will

00:33:08.560 do

00:33:08.760 Steve

00:33:08.980 specifically

00:33:10.260 here

00:33:10.520 are

00:33:10.600 the

00:33:10.700 two

00:33:15.640 already

00:33:16.500 has

00:33:16.980 in

00:33:17.140 2022

00:33:17.800 for

00:33:18.160 example

00:33:18.480 a

00:33:18.700 387

00:33:19.620 billion

00:33:20.460 dollar

00:33:20.980 trade

00:33:21.780 surplus

00:33:22.600 whereas

00:33:23.920 Europe

00:33:24.920 the

00:33:25.920 world's

00:33:26.340 largest

00:33:26.760 currency

00:33:28.800 zone

00:33:29.120 has

00:33:29.720 a

00:33:29.920 476

00:33:31.100 billion

00:33:31.620 dollar

00:33:32.140 trade

00:33:32.560 deficit

00:33:33.100 now the

00:33:33.660 importance

00:33:34.040 here

00:33:34.440 is

00:33:34.780 and I'm

00:33:35.260 just going

00:33:35.460 to quote

00:33:35.840 this

00:33:36.140 and then

00:33:36.440 I'll make

00:33:36.760 my point

00:33:37.180 and then

00:33:37.740 I'll give

00:33:38.020 way

00:33:38.220 it says

00:33:38.680 this

00:33:38.940 for starters

00:33:39.980 because the

00:33:40.860 BRICS

00:33:41.340 countries

00:33:42.020 run a

00:33:42.420 trade

00:33:42.820 and

00:33:43.060 balance

00:33:43.420 of

00:33:43.620 payment

00:33:43.980 surplus

00:33:44.540 this

00:33:46.020 notional

00:33:46.620 currency

00:33:47.020 which the

00:33:47.340 article

00:33:47.580 is calling

00:33:48.000 a BRIC

00:33:48.540 would not

00:33:49.180 necessarily

00:33:49.640 need to

00:33:50.160 attract

00:33:50.560 any

00:33:50.900 foreign

00:33:51.280 money

00:33:51.680 at all

00:33:52.320 BRICS

00:33:53.120 governments

00:33:53.660 could use

00:33:54.260 some

00:33:54.500 combination

00:33:55.060 of

00:33:55.320 carrots

00:33:55.680 and sticks

00:33:56.200 to get

00:33:56.800 their own

00:33:57.300 households

00:33:57.840 and firms

00:33:58.480 to buy

00:33:59.120 BRIC

00:33:59.480 assets

00:34:00.000 with their

00:34:00.440 savings

00:34:00.840 and effectively

00:34:01.800 coerce

00:34:02.460 and subsidize

00:34:03.380 the market

00:34:04.120 into existence

00:34:05.000 so look

00:34:05.720 what's the

00:34:06.260 weak point

00:34:06.880 there

00:34:07.200 it's to do

00:34:07.920 with the

00:34:08.260 health

00:34:08.680 of the

00:34:08.940 balance

00:34:09.280 of trade

00:34:09.780 and this

00:34:10.400 is where

00:34:10.840 if a

00:34:11.360 total

00:34:11.860 you know

00:34:12.800 the tariffs

00:34:13.460 that the

00:34:14.100 Trump

00:34:14.540 administration

00:34:14.860 placed against

00:34:15.640 China

00:34:16.140 were excellent

00:34:16.740 and a very

00:34:17.560 good first

00:34:18.100 start

00:34:18.500 but if the

00:34:19.600 United States

00:34:20.080 is really

00:34:20.660 interested

00:34:21.300 and I'm not

00:34:21.740 recommending this

00:34:22.960 path because of

00:34:23.780 the fallout

00:34:25.600 that could

00:34:26.060 come from

00:34:27.060 the

00:34:27.820 track

00:34:29.300 type

00:34:29.660 scenario

00:34:30.000 but if

00:34:30.860 the United States

00:34:32.560 is going to

00:34:33.360 prepare

00:34:33.760 total

00:34:34.500 economic

00:34:35.560 warfare

00:34:36.040 against China

00:34:36.920 the place to

00:34:37.660 hit it would be

00:34:38.260 on its

00:34:38.960 balance of trade

00:34:39.900 surplus

00:34:40.820 and we're

00:34:41.480 talking there

00:34:41.800 like a total

00:34:42.700 and absolute

00:34:43.560 blockage of

00:34:44.360 all trade

00:34:44.900 between China

00:34:45.640 and the United

00:34:46.400 States

00:34:46.700 and that

00:34:47.420 might just

00:34:48.220 have knock-on

00:34:48.800 effects

00:34:49.240 which would

00:34:49.920 kill this

00:34:50.460 concept in

00:34:51.140 the crib

00:34:51.500 Ben I know

00:34:53.080 it's late

00:34:53.540 in Rome

00:34:54.060 I want to

00:34:54.620 thank you for

00:34:55.080 staying up

00:34:55.600 and doing

00:34:56.100 this

00:34:56.380 we didn't

00:34:56.760 get to it

00:34:57.140 in the

00:34:57.280 morning show

00:34:57.700 how do

00:34:58.000 people get

00:34:58.380 to you

00:34:58.560 on social

00:34:58.900 media

00:34:59.260 thanks Steve

00:35:01.300 it's simply

00:35:01.980 my surname

00:35:03.000 on ghetto

00:35:03.700 which is

00:35:04.140 at

00:35:04.440 harnwell

00:35:05.220 and then

00:35:05.740 also go

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00:35:15.880 every day

00:35:16.300 Ben's

00:35:17.660 getting much

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00:35:19.720 and taking

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00:35:22.100 and can't

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00:35:22.760 else

00:35:23.160 Ben

00:35:23.900 they're

00:35:24.140 doing the

00:35:24.620 votes

00:35:24.920 tonight

00:35:25.520 we're

00:35:25.980 going to

00:35:26.140 come back

00:35:26.540 I want

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00:35:27.760 on the

00:35:28.740 Dineper

00:35:29.220 oysters

00:35:30.400 and champagne

00:35:31.160 I think

00:35:31.760 is still

00:35:32.140 in the

00:35:32.420 budget

00:35:32.680 so I'm

00:35:33.000 going to

00:35:33.100 have to

00:35:33.200 come back

00:35:33.520 to you

00:35:33.820 and pick

00:35:35.180 your brain

00:35:35.520 on that

00:35:35.760 probably

00:35:35.960 tomorrow

00:35:36.260 or Friday

00:35:36.620 so thank

00:35:36.980 you very

00:35:37.220 much

00:35:37.420 brother

00:35:37.620 appreciate it

00:35:38.640 you're

00:35:38.860 welcome

00:35:39.060 I'm going

00:35:39.700 to go

00:35:39.800 off and

00:35:40.000 have a

00:35:40.240 gold leaf

00:35:40.680 facial

00:35:41.060 right now

00:35:41.620 thank you

00:35:43.000 sir

00:35:43.260 thank you

00:35:44.320 so Dr.

00:35:46.120 Thayer

00:35:46.360 one question

00:35:47.000 I've got

00:35:47.400 to ask

00:35:48.020 after this

00:35:48.640 all these

00:35:49.220 articles

00:35:49.520 coming out

00:35:49.940 now

00:35:50.280 about

00:35:50.800 the

00:35:51.640 alternative

00:35:52.140 currency

00:35:52.520 what they're

00:35:52.820 doing

00:35:53.020 why

00:35:54.200 does it

00:35:55.520 seem

00:35:56.140 like

00:35:56.760 the

00:35:57.180 American

00:35:57.640 elites

00:35:58.320 have never

00:35:59.400 taken seriously

00:36:00.320 the Chinese

00:36:00.880 Communist Party

00:36:01.520 particularly

00:36:02.340 their strategic

00:36:04.000 thrust in the

00:36:05.100 way that they

00:36:05.620 think things

00:36:06.200 through over

00:36:06.540 long term

00:36:07.140 and are prepared

00:36:07.900 to take the

00:36:09.060 ups and downs

00:36:09.860 of their many

00:36:10.920 mistakes

00:36:11.400 but to really

00:36:11.980 when they get a

00:36:12.600 path that they

00:36:13.280 focus on

00:36:14.240 they line up on

00:36:15.040 that path

00:36:15.580 and they go

00:36:16.220 and their path

00:36:16.900 is clearly

00:36:17.400 as you've warned

00:36:18.080 us for many

00:36:19.180 years

00:36:19.480 their path

00:36:20.400 is the

00:36:20.860 destruction

00:36:21.400 of the

00:36:21.940 United States

00:36:22.360 of America

00:36:22.900 as a

00:36:23.480 constitutional

00:36:24.000 republic

00:36:24.540 in a

00:36:24.920 capitalist

00:36:25.260 society

00:36:25.900 sir

00:36:26.600 Steve

00:36:28.820 the first

00:36:30.400 point there

00:36:30.940 is to

00:36:31.360 recognize

00:36:32.060 that

00:36:32.700 they don't

00:36:33.540 take the

00:36:33.920 ideology

00:36:34.520 of the

00:36:34.840 Chinese

00:36:35.160 Communist Party

00:36:36.060 seriously

00:36:36.700 they think

00:36:37.840 that the

00:36:38.160 Chinese

00:36:38.460 Communist Party

00:36:39.360 is subject

00:36:40.780 to

00:36:41.400 manipulation

00:36:42.540 and to

00:36:43.300 influence

00:36:43.980 from

00:36:44.520 the United

00:36:45.480 States

00:36:46.160 and its

00:36:47.800 Western

00:36:48.880 allies

00:36:49.540 they don't

00:36:50.520 understand

00:36:51.020 the

00:36:51.220 strength

00:36:52.060 and the

00:36:55.080 fervent

00:36:55.420 nature

00:36:55.840 to which

00:36:56.560 Chinese

00:36:57.120 communists

00:36:57.940 hold

00:36:58.560 their

00:36:59.300 belief

00:36:59.740 in

00:37:00.220 communism

00:37:00.980 Marxist

00:37:01.820 Leninism

00:37:03.260 Maoism

00:37:03.900 as their

00:37:05.020 ideology

00:37:05.840 and if

00:37:07.600 they were

00:37:07.900 to understand

00:37:08.640 that

00:37:08.980 then they

00:37:09.580 would

00:37:09.780 understand

00:37:10.580 why

00:37:11.260 the

00:37:11.860 Chinese

00:37:12.200 Communist Party

00:37:13.160 is doing

00:37:13.980 what it's

00:37:14.400 doing

00:37:14.760 why it's

00:37:16.060 targeting

00:37:16.460 the United

00:37:16.980 States

00:37:17.600 why it's

00:37:18.320 targeting

00:37:18.760 Taiwan

00:37:19.400 its

00:37:19.920 ideological

00:37:20.580 rival

00:37:21.280 and

00:37:21.960 threat

00:37:23.580 to the

00:37:24.660 Chinese

00:37:25.180 Communist

00:37:25.700 Party

00:37:26.180 why it's

00:37:27.320 willing to

00:37:27.840 strangle

00:37:28.400 Hong Kong

00:37:29.300 the goose

00:37:30.480 that was

00:37:30.840 laying

00:37:31.120 golden eggs

00:37:32.060 they're quite

00:37:32.940 willing to

00:37:33.500 destroy it

00:37:34.320 so that

00:37:35.300 they have

00:37:35.940 control

00:37:37.000 so Western

00:37:38.280 elites

00:37:38.740 certainly are

00:37:39.860 hubristic

00:37:40.400 they don't

00:37:41.000 understand

00:37:41.440 that people

00:37:42.220 can see

00:37:42.600 the world

00:37:43.000 differently

00:37:43.520 they don't

00:37:44.180 understand

00:37:44.740 that people

00:37:45.240 could be

00:37:45.620 targeting

00:37:46.040 them

00:37:46.540 directly

00:37:47.960 and

00:37:48.460 with the

00:37:49.460 strength

00:37:49.920 and with

00:37:50.260 determination

00:37:50.920 to do

00:37:52.360 so

00:37:52.760 I think

00:37:53.660 that's

00:37:53.940 in part

00:37:54.360 because of

00:37:55.100 the end

00:37:55.540 of history

00:37:56.060 moment

00:37:56.620 Steve

00:37:57.300 in the wake

00:37:58.640 of the Cold

00:37:59.220 War

00:37:59.660 Francis Fukuyama

00:38:01.280 wrote that

00:38:01.900 piece

00:38:02.340 end of history

00:38:03.120 in 1989

00:38:03.900 where he made

00:38:05.580 the argument

00:38:06.180 well we're all

00:38:07.140 going to be

00:38:07.580 Democrats

00:38:08.040 and we're all

00:38:08.700 going to be

00:38:09.060 capitalists

00:38:09.840 in the future

00:38:10.540 that was

00:38:11.640 the march

00:38:12.420 of history

00:38:13.100 and so

00:38:14.680 so many

00:38:16.120 individuals

00:38:16.980 have believed

00:38:17.920 that

00:38:18.360 and that

00:38:18.860 has

00:38:19.100 restricted

00:38:20.100 it's

00:38:20.440 constrained

00:38:21.060 their

00:38:21.420 thinking

00:38:21.940 it's

00:38:22.800 also

00:38:23.160 constrained

00:38:23.760 their

00:38:23.960 understanding

00:38:24.620 of the

00:38:25.060 Chinese

00:38:25.400 Communist Party

00:38:26.440 and the depth

00:38:28.220 to which they

00:38:28.900 actually believe

00:38:29.920 their ideology

00:38:31.440 so it's a

00:38:32.800 very dangerous

00:38:33.940 situation

00:38:34.820 few in the west

00:38:36.020 think that people

00:38:36.700 can think differently

00:38:37.620 and few in the west

00:38:39.840 think that they

00:38:40.360 actually have enemies

00:38:41.600 and very few in the west

00:38:43.460 think that those enemies

00:38:44.320 might be stronger

00:38:45.280 and might be

00:38:47.160 better strategists

00:38:48.700 than they

00:38:49.900 so it's really

00:38:50.780 a conceit

00:38:51.520 Steve

00:38:51.920 it's the

00:38:52.500 arrogance

00:38:53.120 of our elite

00:38:54.740 and the unwillingness

00:38:56.220 to think

00:38:56.780 and to see

00:38:57.680 reality

00:38:58.820 when year after year

00:39:00.500 they became stronger

00:39:02.400 year after year

00:39:03.800 we supported

00:39:04.480 their growth

00:39:05.280 year after year

00:39:06.900 we facilitated

00:39:08.140 the transfer

00:39:08.820 of technology

00:39:09.660 and knowledge

00:39:10.440 of every shape

00:39:11.580 and form

00:39:12.060 through legal

00:39:12.760 and illegal means

00:39:13.800 and the

00:39:15.540 this threat

00:39:17.060 continued to grow

00:39:18.140 and yet we didn't

00:39:19.540 respond

00:39:20.440 in the

00:39:21.600 way certainly

00:39:22.660 that we should have

00:39:23.440 we've got

00:39:24.300 we've got a couple

00:39:26.200 of minutes

00:39:26.600 and obviously

00:39:27.160 I'm going to have you

00:39:27.640 back because we're

00:39:28.200 going to drill

00:39:28.540 into this every day

00:39:29.520 does their leadership

00:39:31.060 does their leadership

00:39:31.920 cadre take

00:39:33.100 when they see

00:39:34.240 people like Biden

00:39:35.120 and Blinken

00:39:36.040 did they take

00:39:37.180 the American elite

00:39:38.220 seriously

00:39:38.780 did they think

00:39:39.640 although we're

00:39:40.540 a very powerful nation

00:39:41.640 do they view us

00:39:43.040 as a nation

00:39:43.660 in decline

00:39:44.080 because our elites

00:39:44.980 are no longer

00:39:45.680 serious people

00:39:46.600 and have continued

00:39:47.580 to kowtow

00:39:48.280 or look the other way

00:39:49.720 or dismiss

00:39:50.240 the Chinese Communist Party

00:39:51.400 as they've had

00:39:52.040 this march

00:39:52.640 to really the beginning

00:39:53.900 of this global

00:39:54.640 third world war

00:39:55.520 sir

00:39:55.920 Steve

00:39:57.700 they're schizophrenic

00:39:58.720 on the US

00:39:59.500 they recognize

00:40:01.220 that Biden

00:40:02.620 is

00:40:03.260 is a supine actor

00:40:05.860 when it comes

00:40:06.480 to China

00:40:07.060 and

00:40:07.620 so many

00:40:09.280 of the American elite

00:40:10.240 are

00:40:10.660 but at the same time

00:40:12.380 they're fearful

00:40:13.000 that you're going

00:40:14.380 to get Trump

00:40:15.040 back

00:40:16.200 and Trump

00:40:17.320 with energy

00:40:18.000 and with focus

00:40:18.940 could really roll

00:40:19.900 them back

00:40:20.500 and that's their

00:40:21.660 great fear

00:40:22.400 so they're very

00:40:23.800 enthusiastic

00:40:24.280 about what's happening

00:40:25.480 with Biden

00:40:26.200 and the fact

00:40:27.340 that he's

00:40:28.060 treating them

00:40:29.000 with kid gloves

00:40:30.320 and has

00:40:30.980 since the dawn

00:40:32.400 of his administration

00:40:33.600 and he's had

00:40:34.320 disastrous

00:40:35.160 foreign policy

00:40:36.320 failure

00:40:36.800 after foreign

00:40:37.460 policy failure

00:40:38.500 and we're

00:40:39.800 focused on

00:40:40.320 a sideshow

00:40:40.980 in Ukraine

00:40:41.620 rather than

00:40:42.560 on Taiwan

00:40:43.180 and security

00:40:44.180 in the Indo-Pacific

00:40:46.060 but again

00:40:47.240 to stress the point

00:40:48.280 they're fearful

00:40:49.140 that American

00:40:51.040 strategists

00:40:51.780 may come back

00:40:52.740 and those

00:40:54.220 strategists

00:40:54.900 will take advantage

00:40:55.720 of their

00:40:56.440 profound

00:40:57.040 vulnerabilities

00:40:57.880 because the

00:40:58.820 CCP after all

00:40:59.980 is a paper

00:41:01.500 tiger

00:41:01.940 they're

00:41:03.940 extremely

00:41:05.120 vulnerable

00:41:05.720 vulnerable

00:41:06.400 to efforts

00:41:07.400 to undermine

00:41:08.020 them

00:41:08.500 among the

00:41:09.240 Chinese people

00:41:10.100 and to

00:41:11.840 develop

00:41:13.200 coalitions

00:41:13.840 against them

00:41:14.500 in international

00:41:15.160 politics

00:41:15.940 to really

00:41:16.520 roll them

00:41:17.060 back

00:41:17.500 it's entirely

00:41:18.400 possible to do

00:41:19.380 that but it

00:41:19.980 needs presidential

00:41:20.900 leadership

00:41:21.480 and we do not

00:41:23.000 have presidential

00:41:24.020 leadership

00:41:24.520 with the Biden

00:41:25.380 administration

00:41:26.240 it's the reason

00:41:27.400 this election

00:41:29.200 24th

00:41:29.840 this is going

00:41:30.220 to be a

00:41:30.460 center issue

00:41:30.940 that's why I'm

00:41:31.480 so glad we

00:41:31.940 started the

00:41:32.240 conference

00:41:32.520 how do

00:41:33.040 people get

00:41:33.560 your writings

00:41:34.860 social media

00:41:35.540 and particularly

00:41:35.940 your last

00:41:36.440 book which

00:41:36.860 you warned

00:41:37.280 us I think

00:41:37.760 you and

00:41:38.060 Lin Xiaohan

00:41:38.660 warned us

00:41:39.520 about the

00:41:40.660 CCP and

00:41:41.280 kind of broke

00:41:41.700 down all the

00:41:42.240 different aspects

00:41:42.880 of it

00:41:43.380 centerforsecuritypolicy.org

00:41:46.840 Steve and then

00:41:47.800 at Getter

00:41:48.620 and Truth

00:41:49.640 at Bradley

00:41:50.520 Thayer

00:41:50.880 and the book

00:41:51.960 is available

00:41:52.560 the book

00:41:53.000 Understanding the

00:41:53.800 China Threat

00:41:54.320 is available

00:41:54.860 at Amazon

00:41:56.120 Dr. Thayer

00:41:58.620 thank you very

00:41:59.200 much

00:41:59.500 honor to have

00:42:00.020 you on here

00:42:00.400 thank you Steve

00:42:01.140 thanks for the

00:42:01.580 update

00:42:02.520 let me start

00:42:03.060 I'm gonna go

00:42:03.400 back to Jane

00:42:04.040 in a second

00:42:04.400 let me go

00:42:04.780 with Nicole

00:42:05.200 I think we got

00:42:05.700 Nicole from

00:42:06.940 the new federal

00:42:07.720 state of China

00:42:08.900 Nicole explain

00:42:10.120 to our audience

00:42:10.760 you know

00:42:11.340 they've seen

00:42:11.820 the new federal

00:42:12.280 state

00:42:12.540 they've seen

00:42:12.820 many times

00:42:13.260 but I want

00:42:13.700 to make sure

00:42:14.040 the audience

00:42:14.400 knows

00:42:14.780 do the Chinese

00:42:16.620 people

00:42:17.220 are they a threat

00:42:20.440 to the Chinese

00:42:21.040 communist party

00:42:21.780 do they hate

00:42:22.580 living under

00:42:23.320 the 1.4 billion

00:42:24.940 people

00:42:25.300 do they hate

00:42:25.920 living under

00:42:26.420 the totalitarian

00:42:27.340 dictatorship

00:42:27.960 of the CCP

00:42:29.280 absolutely

00:42:31.260 the 1.4 billion

00:42:32.880 Chinese people

00:42:33.580 are the biggest

00:42:34.360 victim

00:42:34.860 to the Chinese

00:42:36.020 Communist Party

00:42:36.680 and that's why

00:42:37.460 Mr. Mao's

00:42:38.120 follower

00:42:39.100 has exceeded

00:42:40.400 more than

00:42:41.120 600 million

00:42:42.000 people

00:42:42.640 and most of

00:42:43.560 our followers

00:42:44.240 are inside

00:42:45.080 the communist

00:42:45.600 China

00:42:46.140 no one else

00:42:47.680 better want

00:42:48.680 the CCP

00:42:49.380 to fall

00:42:50.060 than the people

00:42:50.940 who are living

00:42:51.600 in the darkest

00:42:52.540 corner

00:42:53.040 and that is

00:42:53.840 the communist

00:42:54.300 China

00:42:54.800 and so

00:42:55.880 very sadly

00:42:56.640 Mr. Mao's

00:42:57.260 goal is still

00:42:57.720 behind the bar

00:42:58.440 and he has

00:42:59.320 been persecuted

00:43:00.200 by a weaponized

00:43:01.780 DOJ

00:43:02.380 and the FBI

00:43:03.060 in this country

00:43:03.900 and that's

00:43:04.920 very deeply

00:43:05.640 concerning to

00:43:06.480 all the Chinese

00:43:07.260 people worldwide

00:43:08.160 the Chinese people

00:43:10.020 understand

00:43:10.480 does Lao

00:43:10.860 Beijing

00:43:11.200 on mainland

00:43:11.780 understand

00:43:12.420 what Miles

00:43:13.480 has helped

00:43:13.920 do to the west

00:43:14.820 so the west

00:43:15.480 understands this threat

00:43:16.980 because before

00:43:17.640 we used to call

00:43:18.040 China

00:43:18.420 the Chinese people

00:43:19.220 Miles said

00:43:19.920 you got this wrong

00:43:20.620 it's the CCP

00:43:21.440 and that's a very

00:43:22.340 small slice

00:43:23.800 of the Chinese people

00:43:24.640 in fact

00:43:24.980 whoever controls

00:43:25.780 this is really

00:43:26.420 down to a couple

00:43:27.400 thousand

00:43:27.800 does Lao

00:43:28.520 Beijing

00:43:28.820 understand

00:43:29.500 what Miles

00:43:30.380 has been able

00:43:30.860 to accomplish

00:43:31.480 to help

00:43:32.560 the United States

00:43:33.180 yes absolutely

00:43:35.840 just like

00:43:36.560 the global elites

00:43:37.500 or the American

00:43:38.320 political establishment

00:43:39.620 does not represent

00:43:41.220 we the people

00:43:42.160 the deplorables

00:43:43.100 or the chumps

00:43:43.820 the Chinese people

00:43:44.860 are not represented

00:43:45.880 by a few hundred

00:43:47.600 kleptocrats

00:43:49.340 in communist China

00:43:50.600 it's the same

00:43:51.280 concept

00:43:52.240 that the CCP

00:43:53.360 does not represent

00:43:54.200 the Chinese people

00:43:55.040 and same

00:43:55.920 you know

00:43:56.380 the America's

00:43:57.280 elites

00:43:57.720 and the Wall Street

00:43:59.200 and corporate America

00:44:00.220 does not represent

00:44:01.120 the American people

00:44:02.240 hang on for one second

00:44:04.300 I want to bring Jane on

00:44:05.220 Jane's actually live

00:44:06.200 outside the Ministry

00:44:07.080 of State Securities

00:44:08.280 Chinatown

00:44:09.680 outpost

00:44:10.980 that was rolling up

00:44:12.400 innocent Chinese

00:44:13.660 nationals

00:44:14.540 here in the country

00:44:15.180 and particularly

00:44:15.620 focused on Miles Guo

00:44:16.720 and Miles Guo's followers

00:44:18.240 Jane

00:44:18.800 can we get you up

00:44:20.440 Jane

00:44:21.060 tell us about

00:44:21.840 the Ministry of State Security

00:44:23.000 you've been following

00:44:23.560 the trial

00:44:24.160 but this is the other

00:44:25.360 aspect of it

00:44:26.140 where Miles is

00:44:26.920 victim number one

00:44:27.880 and his movement

00:44:29.500 the 9-12 movement

00:44:30.560 is actually under

00:44:31.900 assault by the Ministry

00:44:32.760 of State Security

00:44:33.520 ma'am

00:44:34.300 right so I'm live

00:44:37.780 outside of that

00:44:38.600 outpost now

00:44:39.560 that was raided

00:44:40.300 by the FBI

00:44:41.100 back in October

00:44:42.320 of 2022

00:44:43.260 but the Ministry

00:44:44.720 of Public Security

00:44:45.740 has basically

00:44:46.820 targeted Miles

00:44:47.740 and several other

00:44:48.620 Chinese citizens

00:44:49.480 that are living

00:44:50.100 in New York

00:44:50.660 they have this outpost

00:44:51.940 in fact they have

00:44:53.120 hundreds of these

00:44:53.980 outposts

00:44:54.640 around the world

00:44:55.680 and this one

00:44:56.580 was recently shut down

00:44:57.840 after the controversy

00:44:58.900 but two men

00:45:00.080 who were running

00:45:00.660 the outposts

00:45:01.460 of course were arrested

00:45:02.300 here in New York

00:45:03.260 and they were pretty much

00:45:04.820 instantaneously

00:45:05.640 released on bail

00:45:06.720 while Miles Guo

00:45:08.020 still sits behind bars

00:45:09.580 hang on for one second

00:45:11.160 let me get Nicole

00:45:11.840 Nicole how does that work

00:45:13.440 how is Miles Guo

00:45:14.440 that's done so much

00:45:15.460 to help the citizens

00:45:16.780 of the United States

00:45:17.660 understand the threat

00:45:19.480 and name names

00:45:20.420 he's still without bail

00:45:22.680 and the two guys

00:45:24.280 who are the Ministry

00:45:25.000 of State Security

00:45:25.700 who are here

00:45:26.900 illegally trying to roll up

00:45:28.580 innocent Chinese nationals

00:45:29.920 and Miles Guo's movement

00:45:31.080 they get bail

00:45:32.100 in one afternoon

00:45:32.800 how does that work ma'am

00:45:33.840 well that's a great question

00:45:36.160 we're asking

00:45:36.800 we're asking the same question

00:45:38.700 to Jim Jordan

00:45:39.560 chairman of the

00:45:41.420 House Judicial Committee

00:45:42.360 and also the

00:45:44.040 Weaponization Committee

00:45:44.960 we're also pressing

00:45:46.260 an answer from

00:45:47.220 the Oversight Committee

00:45:48.140 we're asking

00:45:48.960 the American elected officials

00:45:50.720 how come the CCP

00:45:52.440 enemy number one

00:45:53.380 Mr. Miles Guo

00:45:53.940 is behind the bar

00:45:54.860 while the CCP

00:45:55.900 agents are let out

00:45:57.740 quickly

00:45:58.220 and let's not

00:45:59.820 also forget

00:46:00.720 that there are

00:46:01.760 tens of thousands

00:46:02.660 of the CCP spies

00:46:04.040 running rampant

00:46:06.020 in this country

00:46:06.660 not just in New York

00:46:07.740 there are very similar

00:46:09.260 CCP secret police station

00:46:11.100 found also in Houston

00:46:12.760 in Los Angeles

00:46:13.880 in San Francisco

00:46:14.860 and across this country

00:46:17.040 there are so many

00:46:17.840 Chinese agents

00:46:19.660 and a lot of them

00:46:20.900 are the great assets

00:46:22.040 within the US

00:46:23.540 federal government agencies

00:46:24.740 it's people like

00:46:25.580 George Hagenbotham

00:46:26.500 he was a DOJ

00:46:27.680 full-time employee

00:46:28.780 and there are also

00:46:29.860 very prominent

00:46:30.680 US power brokers

00:46:33.080 like Elliot Brody

00:46:34.360 and Stephen Wynn

00:46:35.760 these are

00:46:36.260 CCP's most important assets

00:46:38.760 within the

00:46:39.600 United States of America

00:46:41.220 they can do

00:46:42.060 much greater harm

00:46:43.280 than the CCP

00:46:44.040 police station

00:46:45.060 because they have

00:46:45.860 access to the White House

00:46:47.780 they have access

00:46:48.400 to the most powerful people

00:46:49.720 in this country

00:46:50.460 so that's why

00:46:51.780 Mr. Moscow

00:46:52.340 has been urging

00:46:54.380 the US government

00:46:56.200 and people

00:46:56.940 start paying attention

00:46:58.220 to the American sellout

00:46:59.400 because these inside threats

00:47:02.040 are more threatening

00:47:03.060 than Xi Jinping

00:47:04.220 back in China

00:47:05.280 Hang on Nicole

00:47:07.040 I'm going to come back

00:47:07.460 to you in a second

00:47:07.820 you mentioned Hagenbotham

00:47:09.000 so Jane

00:47:10.180 get us up to date

00:47:11.060 I know you're doing

00:47:11.580 reporting here

00:47:12.260 be with us tomorrow

00:47:13.100 about the Ministry of State Security

00:47:14.880 in Manhattan

00:47:15.620 but tell me

00:47:17.020 give me the trial

00:47:18.860 and particularly Hagenbotham

00:47:19.860 I am stunned

00:47:20.840 by the cricket

00:47:21.740 there's no coverage

00:47:23.220 of this at all

00:47:23.780 in the mainstream media

00:47:24.540 it's one of the most

00:47:25.560 explosive trials

00:47:26.820 I've seen in a long time

00:47:28.780 particularly about espionage

00:47:29.920 give us the update

00:47:30.720 right well again

00:47:32.940 in the past 24 hours

00:47:34.260 the mainstream media

00:47:35.200 has missed the mark

00:47:36.400 in identifying

00:47:37.180 the core issue here

00:47:38.380 the fact that

00:47:39.080 Pras Michelle

00:47:39.880 was working with the CCP

00:47:41.380 to lobby US officials

00:47:43.200 to have Miles

00:47:44.240 extradited

00:47:45.360 that part is

00:47:46.100 completely ignored

00:47:47.180 and instead

00:47:48.080 what has been highlighted

00:47:49.640 is the fact

00:47:50.640 that Pras Michelle

00:47:51.420 met with the FBI

00:47:52.820 several times

00:47:53.980 regarding Miles Quo's extradition

00:47:55.980 and not the fact

00:47:57.160 that he had those meetings

00:47:58.300 but rather the fact

00:47:59.360 that rapper 50 Cent

00:48:00.720 has come out

00:48:01.780 and called him a rat

00:48:02.980 for meeting with the FBI

00:48:04.260 it's unbelievable

00:48:07.140 Jane

00:48:07.600 hang on a second

00:48:08.340 so Nicole

00:48:08.980 how do we get in a situation

00:48:10.420 you gotta help me out here

00:48:11.560 how are we in a situation

00:48:12.580 where we have a massive trial

00:48:13.740 and Miles is the centerpiece

00:48:15.480 of the trial

00:48:16.060 the whole thing

00:48:16.980 is about extraditing

00:48:17.780 Miles Quo

00:48:18.380 and they're paying

00:48:18.920 hundreds of millions

00:48:19.480 of dollars

00:48:19.960 they've got all these

00:48:20.540 prominent Americans

00:48:21.480 and the CCP saying

00:48:22.960 get this guy

00:48:23.600 and we'll pay you

00:48:24.080 25 million

00:48:24.860 100 million

00:48:25.440 guy in the Justice Bar

00:48:26.400 40 million

00:48:27.060 Miles Quo's name

00:48:28.640 has never been mentioned

00:48:30.020 I don't believe

00:48:30.680 in the entire trial

00:48:31.720 then we're in New York City

00:48:33.460 and you mentioned

00:48:34.100 we got these police stations

00:48:35.300 all over the country

00:48:36.180 the CCP's so arrogant

00:48:38.560 they don't think

00:48:39.600 the American elites

00:48:40.460 will do anything about it

00:48:41.320 they got them all over

00:48:42.220 taking innocent

00:48:43.580 Chinese nationals

00:48:44.800 who are here for freedom

00:48:45.760 and want to fight

00:48:46.380 the CCP

00:48:46.960 and once again

00:48:48.940 their number one target

00:48:50.200 is Miles Quo

00:48:51.000 that's in the charging document

00:48:52.520 yet they just call him

00:48:53.560 victim number one

00:48:54.580 and they call the movement

00:48:55.640 912

00:48:56.200 which they say

00:48:56.940 Miles is their number one target

00:48:58.660 your group

00:48:59.860 is the number two target

00:49:01.220 yet

00:49:01.860 the Justice Department

00:49:04.460 will never mention

00:49:05.440 the name Miles Quo

00:49:06.620 it's like the forbidden name

00:49:08.060 how does that work ma'am?

00:49:10.600 well remember

00:49:11.540 Press Michelle's lawyer

00:49:13.080 actually requested

00:49:14.980 Miles Quo to testify

00:49:16.520 in Press Michelle's trial

00:49:18.460 in Washington DC

00:49:19.480 but Miles Quo is jailed

00:49:23.060 and he's not allowed

00:49:24.080 to be bailed out

00:49:24.920 and also the request

00:49:26.900 for him to testify

00:49:28.020 in Press Michelle's trial

00:49:29.620 has also been denied

00:49:31.040 and people are asking why

00:49:33.040 because that whole

00:49:34.560 you know

00:49:35.360 Mr. Miles Quo

00:49:36.060 is the ultimate victim

00:49:38.100 of Press Michelle's case

00:49:39.860 yet he was prevented

00:49:41.040 from testifying

00:49:42.360 and this is the reason

00:49:43.620 why people are questioning

00:49:44.920 about why Mr. Miles Quo

00:49:46.360 was arrested

00:49:47.120 days before

00:49:49.780 Press Michelle's trial

00:49:51.360 and it's a setup

00:49:52.940 it's a big cover up

00:49:54.340 and media has been

00:49:55.880 silent about Mr. Miles Quo

00:49:58.480 he's identified

00:49:59.760 as a victim number one

00:50:01.860 in the eastern district

00:50:03.260 of New York

00:50:04.200 indictment

00:50:05.360 against 34 officers

00:50:07.480 from CCP's

00:50:09.240 Ministry of Public Security

00:50:11.680 yet in the southern district

00:50:13.300 of New York

00:50:14.260 Mr. Miles Quo

00:50:15.180 is framed

00:50:16.400 and accused

00:50:17.400 of a $1 billion fraud

00:50:18.680 yet they fail

00:50:20.540 to produce

00:50:21.360 a single name

00:50:22.420 of a real victim

00:50:23.400 so you know

00:50:25.100 this is a very very deeply

00:50:27.300 concerning case

00:50:28.440 and so

00:50:29.460 especially about

00:50:30.580 why Mr. Miles Quo

00:50:31.460 cannot be bailed out

00:50:32.780 you know

00:50:33.360 they cite the two reasons

00:50:35.520 they say Mr. Miles Quo

00:50:36.800 is too smart

00:50:38.060 to be able to flee

00:50:40.200 without even

00:50:41.280 a trial document

00:50:42.720 and so

00:50:44.200 why

00:50:44.640 this question

00:50:45.840 is not being asked

00:50:46.840 to

00:50:47.160 the two

00:50:48.660 Chinatown men

00:50:49.500 who was accused

00:50:50.740 for setting up

00:50:51.820 the CCP's

00:50:52.640 police station

00:50:53.600 and why not

00:50:54.640 the same question

00:50:55.420 being asked

00:50:56.100 to all the other people

00:50:57.460 who have been let out

00:50:58.480 from the jail

00:50:59.460 I mean

00:51:00.200 this is a two-tiered

00:51:01.740 justice system

00:51:02.980 and Moscow

00:51:03.520 is clearly

00:51:04.240 a victim

00:51:05.280 of the political persecution

00:51:07.000 I might add

00:51:08.680 that he was subpoenaed

00:51:09.960 for the Pras-Mashill trial

00:51:12.000 before he was

00:51:13.940 arrested

00:51:14.880 the timing

00:51:16.120 in fact

00:51:16.420 he was subpoenaed

00:51:17.340 the week

00:51:17.820 like on Thursday

00:51:18.960 the rest of the final time

00:51:20.480 the timing here

00:51:21.800 is very very very suspicious

00:51:23.260 Nicole

00:51:24.220 what social media

00:51:25.600 how do people

00:51:26.280 find out more about this

00:51:27.320 particularly people

00:51:28.080 who want to understand more

00:51:29.120 about what Miles has done

00:51:30.740 and what's happening now

00:51:31.720 with the Justice Department

00:51:32.520 and FBI

00:51:32.840 where do they go

00:51:33.460 follow us on

00:51:36.180 NFSC speak

00:51:37.260 on Twitter

00:51:38.340 and NFSC speak

00:51:39.600 songwriter

00:51:40.080 and also visit our website

00:51:41.760 nfsofficial.com

00:51:43.300 and also I'd like to point out

00:51:44.900 so after the CCP's

00:51:46.380 secret police station

00:51:47.580 was discovered

00:51:48.420 Congressman

00:51:49.500 Tom Tiffany

00:51:51.040 and Lance Wooden

00:51:52.340 yesterday

00:51:53.100 introduced a bill

00:51:54.660 to shut down

00:51:55.520 the CCP's

00:51:56.720 consulate

00:51:57.400 in New York

00:51:58.120 and we applaud that

00:51:59.360 because the CCP's

00:52:00.820 New York consulate

00:52:02.580 is a spying hub

00:52:03.660 it's the largest

00:52:04.420 spying hub

00:52:05.260 in the United States

00:52:06.320 of America

00:52:07.380 and also Bank of China

00:52:09.000 and the CCP

00:52:10.060 state-owned banks

00:52:11.080 operating on the US soil

00:52:12.520 it's the money laundry

00:52:13.640 it's a spying hub

00:52:15.440 they need to be

00:52:16.160 shut down

00:52:16.760 ASAP

00:52:17.400 Miles has told us

00:52:18.840 that from day one

00:52:19.520 Nicole

00:52:19.760 thank you very much

00:52:20.580 Jane

00:52:21.100 tell us

00:52:22.100 where can people get you

00:52:23.300 I know you're up there

00:52:23.820 doing reporting

00:52:24.440 on the Ministry of State Security

00:52:25.620 where do they go?

00:52:26.220 add Jane Zirkle

00:52:28.680 on Twitter

00:52:29.460 Instagram

00:52:30.080 YouTube

00:52:30.540 and of course

00:52:31.360 Getter

00:52:31.860 Jane Zirkle

00:52:33.680 Nicole

00:52:34.160 thank you very much

00:52:35.140 for joining us

00:52:35.660 we're going to be back here

00:52:36.600 lots going on

00:52:37.520 in the dead scene

00:52:38.160 a lot of the big fight

00:52:39.100 going on

00:52:39.700 about Ukraine

00:52:40.800 we're going to be back

00:52:41.660 at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning

00:52:42.660 to go through it all

00:52:43.520 see you then

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WarRoom Battleground Ep 281： Fighting For Your Right For Free Speech; CCP Infiltrates NYC Police

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