WarRoom Battleground EP 307: Preventing Mass Arrests Of The Gun Owners Of America
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On today's show, we are joined by Aiden Johnson from the Gun Owners of America (owners of AK-47s) to discuss the President's plan to ban 40 million guns, a plan that could potentially lead to the confiscation of 2nd Amendment rights.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon okay welcome it's uh tuesday 6 june the year of lora 2023 of 79th anniversary
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commemoration of the landing normandy landings uh which we've been commemorating all day um
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we have work to do here i want to bring in aiden johnson from the gun owners of america's director
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of federal programs this outrage that's still and remember that there's still massive controversy
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around this um debt ceiling bill and um you know part of it is not just the lies and misrepresentations
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in the bill but the spending about what was done and what's not done uh we're going to play um
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o'donnell uh last night on msnbc had the negotiating team from um the white house it's it's really
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humiliating when you see it i mean they're just smirking laughing gloating because this was a complete
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total debacle and uh unsatisfactory even i would almost say almost as bad as elements of the bill
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is what we find out now behind the scenes of the extortion of what leadership did to threaten people
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to to vote yes on the bill but also not to to vote yes on the rule that actually got the bill to the
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floor particularly as a closed bill that nobody could give amendments to and 39 patriots um excuse me
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29 patriots stood up to that the original 20 plus another nine and we know from congressman and
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andrew clyde uh the great cb commander that he's been working on this pistol brace bill since the
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beginning uh and they extorted him they said if you vote for this we're taking it off and he says well
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how can you do that you can't use uh people's constitutional rights as a bargaining chip you know
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the this bill what i believe about this rule is totally separate from my work i've done
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about this bill and this bill is urgent needs to come now and they said no it's still not back up
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that's we're bringing aiden johnson on aiden from the gun owners america's perspective put it we've
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heard from clyde now obviously heard from all our audience but put in perspective exactly what we're
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talking about how big an issue is this because we're out in the hinterland i mean for our audience
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and other people in maga it's like their number one or two priority uh what say you sir
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absolutely last week at midnight joe biden banned up to 40 million pistols and as of right now unless
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you're covered by one of the court injunctions which only applied the plaintiffs in the case
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then the biden administration could kick in your door and take the gun that you bought last year or
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10 years ago with a background check at a gun store and say that's an illegal short barrel rifle
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you're going to jail under this new rule and what congress hasn't voted yet this went into effect
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last week they've missed their deadline this is totally unacceptable that that it's the the ban
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went into effect at the same time as the debt ceiling the debt ceiling was used apparently
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against representative andrew clyde and he voted his conscience and we fully support his right to
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vote his conscience on any issue and and now we're not seeing a vote in the house of representatives
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there's nothing on the schedule to to block the biden administration from banning 40 million guns
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that's just outrageous walk back through it walk back through the biden what they did and uh and
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and why this puts people in jeopardy i want to make sure people say oh there's another conspiracy
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theory these guys are always running around with their hair on fire good be specific tell us exactly
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what happened when did they do it and how does this expose uh people to uh because these penalties
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are severe what 10 years in a federal prison a substantial fine plus you lose your gun rights forever
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uh i mean this is about as big a hammer as as i've seen this is really a death penalty for someone
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that believes in second amendment rights essentially so so walk us through that it all began back uh
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during the obama administration when what's called a pistol brace was invented and approved by the atf
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it's designed to let you shoot a firearm with one hand if you were disabled it was originally designed
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for a wounded combat veteran and this device uh has been sold legally at gun stores for the last 10
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years uh with the approval of the federal government but then when joe biden took office he examined all
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of the options every way he could possibly attack the second amendment as many guns uh as he could ban
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with an executive order he wanted to and that's why the atf initiated what's called the biden pistol ban
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and they said that these uh pistol braced weapons are actually illegal short barreled rifles under this
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archaic national firearms act from 1934 and if and they said you have until june 1st to register them
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with the federal government to destroy them to turn them into the atf or to rebuild them so they're now
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handicapped inaccessible those are completely unconstitutional uh options they're total violation of
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your rights and that ban went into effect uh on on june 1st just last week now gun owners of america
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filed a lawsuit to enjoin uh the atf from enforcing this rule nationwide the state of texas was another
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plaintiff in our case we had the texas attorney general and the courts did enjoin this rule but
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only for goa members so it doesn't apply nationwide uh it does apply if you are a uh dues-paying member of
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gun owners of america but that's not good enough that's exactly why congress needs to take a vote
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because every gun owner has a right to a pistol braced weapon and they have no authority to be
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banning these especially without congress passing a law so congress needs to get involved here and
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they need to have some actual oversight and instead we haven't seen anything yet
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we've seen the worst i mean quite frankly they took this away because of the vote i'll get in a
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second call me cynical um but isn't the reason they're so focused on this or one of the key
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reasons they're so focused on this pistol brace and they're in particularly the demonizing people
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and say you're going to be criminals is that the huge influx we've had over the past couple of years
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uh particularly with with biden in office of of women uh really coming and and and starting to become
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gun gun owners and wanting to learn how to handle the weapon and also more young people coming so
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it's a whole demographic shift uh in gun owners which just not a bunch of uh guys or hunters or
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people that traditionally have been very fond of of guns and their weapons but you're seeing an
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entirely new uh an entirely new uh demographic and particularly the fact they say up to 40 million
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uh pistol braces that this pistol brace makes it easier for for a woman is that one of the is that one
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of the cynical reasons you think that biden uh in this illegitimate regime are trying to demonize
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and uh and weaponize this support for gun control is falling as you said i think the fastest growing
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demographic of gun owners is young black women people are overwhelmingly going out for the last
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few years and purchasing firearms not for hunting not for sport but for self-defense in a country where
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crime is on the rise where riots happen every summer seemingly people want to defend themselves
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they want to defend their families and their loved ones and that's why they're buying firearms and if
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you're disabled then you might need something like a pistol brace now biden has is trying to do
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everything he can to ban pistols by an executive order because he cannot get it through congress
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no matter how many times pelosi uh nancy pelosi held a vote on an assault weapons ban as speaker of the
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house chuck schumer never brought it to a vote in the senate and that's because there are not the
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votes for an assault weapons ban yet here we have the executive branch unilaterally banning 40 million
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firearms uh aiden uh how outrageous i mean your your membership are are are people that truly believe
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in the second amendment right and and how tough it is on the second amendment is a tough one to work as
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you know um and it's getting tougher every day because they're maniacally obsessed let's just cut to the chase
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they're maniacally obsessed about taking people's right to defend themselves away from it that's what they
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want to do um how outrageous is it to your membership to know that the leadership of the republican party
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who i'm i'm sure most of your membership supports actually is using this their constitutional rights and quite frankly
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their freedom the the the the no jail time no fine and no taking their gun rights away for forever
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in perpetuity how outrageous that your membership find the fact that we're even having this discussion
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that you've got to come on here today and we're actually demanding as the worm has demanded since
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uh andrew clyde uh told us about this last week that we feature this every day that that we actually
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have to spend time money and effort to get the republicans and leadership to do what is the morally
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right thing to do sir if the reports are true then this is exactly why our members send people like
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me and and my co-workers to washington dc because you cannot treat our second amendment rights like a
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bargaining chip the debt ceiling has absolutely nothing to do with gun rights or the second amendment
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these are our god-given our natural human right to self-defense that we're talking about and it has no
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business being used as a as a piece of leverage to force a member of congress to violate their
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conscience and vote a different way on a bill congressman clyde asked us he warned us that this
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might be the case prior to his vote and we told him vote your conscience because that's why you were
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elected that is your job and anyone that is trying to strong arm another member of congress or force
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them to violate that uh that right and and switch their vote on an issue that's absolutely immoral and
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and and 100 that is why uh gunners of america is is here we have to hold these members accountable
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they cannot be allowed to do this to our bill sponsor representative clyde and that is not the way
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that our second amendment rights deserve to be treated by the way the number is 202-225-3121
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now it's best to call in the morning but make sure you make your call and call the local office too if
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you go to warroom.org and grace chung uh the queen of the trolls and captain bannon have put up all the
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contact information including i think the local offices too after you call them on capitol hill call
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their local office your representative said hey this is unacceptable we need to see that back on the
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calendar immediately no happy talk no more negotiating no no more uh prevaricating um how do people find out
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more about gun owners how they find out if they want to become a member or not go to gunowners.org
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and uh join us you can become a member uh you can just sign up for our email action alert list and
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and we will write you alerts and we'll let you know when congress is uh messing around with your
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rights when people in leadership are not holding a vote on something that they ought to be voting on
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that's the the best way to get in contact with us you can also follow us on social media but i
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wouldn't trust big tech uh to guarantee that you're going to hear all the important news like this
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okay brother thank you very much appreciate it okay let's get uh if we can get up uh dave clements
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now let's go ahead and uh and get up dave uh let's get up dave clements dave take it from the top just go
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back through what you told me i want to make sure people understand something the charlie kirk efforts
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and these efforts are absolutely essential and what dave clements is saying hey we have to have a
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two-pronged approach in this we got to confront dhs and these other uh local we got to make sure
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this is on the front burner and totally exposed as we get into the business ourselves i mean we're
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going to be in the business the the the whole understanding of harvesting and ballot harvesting
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and the legal side of it is what these great groups are doing right now i'm going to put through
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a massive effort because we can't just play the old game of of voter registration and get out to vote
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we have to do that too but we got to get as sophisticated and as cunning as the democrats but there's one big
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there's one big um thing that we have to deal with and that is this dave go ahead and take it away
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yeah so i don't want to diminish the enthusiasm for anyone that wants to beat the democrats at their
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own game but there's a technical side of this and if we don't pour a foundation you know and set that
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slab we're building this house on sinking sand and people need to understand that um so when we look
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at the complexity of ballot harvesting each state presents different challenges some states you have
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to opt out to not even receive a mail-in ballot so california oregon washington utah the deck is
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stacked so i'm not saying don't try to do something to present cracks in the system to have a fighting
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chance but know that the deck is stacked against you um but it's it's quite simple when you start looking
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at the architecture input to output on how integrated the software is the voter registration
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rolls the poll books and on speed on demand high speed ballot printing are all fully integrated
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so the democrats and and rhinos have the ability to monitor real-time election data and inflate voter
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rolls and tie that to phantom ballots create them literally out of thin air and harvest those now in
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some areas they will pre-fill the ballots uh like we saw in uh new york and drive hundreds of thousands
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of ballots down to pennsylvania that can be done but that's illegal by the way those weren't pennsylvania
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pennsylvania ballots those were filled out under fraudulent means and delivered so republicans
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aren't going to have a game plan combat something like that that's that nefarious um but the proofs that
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i mentioned this morning are many uh one of the things that we showed right off the bat is that
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if we can get image number two a memorandum and this memorandum you'll find in most states across the
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country it's an agreement between the center for internet security and most secretaries of state this
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is an example of one i got out of new mexico i've received a similar agreement out of california i've
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received another one out of south dakota we're seeing these everywhere and what we're seeing here
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is the ability for cis or a private ngo that's partnered with the department of homeland security
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have unfettered access to monitor all of the election data that's being transmitted disseminated
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on election day and before so they they effectively have a scorecard to see how republicans are doing
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across the country now most clerks downstream aren't aware of what's going on here and what's being
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deployed through this agreement is a thing called albert censors and the albert censors were effectively
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created under the obama administration basically prepare hillary and many others to steal elections
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going forward that's the architect so now they can monitor our elections now the question is do they
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have a hammer do they have an ability to exploit the information that they're reading leading up to
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election day during early voting and the answer is yes if you can give me image uh number nine which is
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a map of the country and certain vendors that are out there that have centralized software you'll find
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that there's a couple companies no wink depro they recently had a merger look at the coverage here over
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the united states you have another company called 10x another company called vr systems and if you look
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at the suite of of products the ecosystem of election management software solutions this is all integrated
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into one place so now with the blessing of the department of homeland security you can see uh all kinds
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of irregularities that have manifested across the country i showed you earlier this morning
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uh some automation and spikes of daily registrations in my home state where we performed eight full
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forensic audits uh so if we can give me image uh number uh five this is an example this is an example
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of daily registrations in bernalillo county that's albuquerque it's an urban area it's dominated by
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democrats now compare that with the county right next to it this is torrance county this is rural this is
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mega country if you'll notice that on the same dates at the same times you see spikes
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for that basically inflate the voter registration rule this is automated this is not done you know
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this is not done by natural means and to underscore this point i'm now going to show you a picture of
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12 county which is the next picture and you'll see that it's the same exact spikes the only difference
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here is that there's an adjustment for population so this is what we're up again so when you see your
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voter voter rolls artificially inflated and yes they can also be purged and artificially deflated you
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have to understand that these voter rolls are fully integrated with ballot printing and so these people
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can actually create um a phantom ballot out of thin air and start casting them in the digital space
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and i want to impress this point as strong as i can what's going on in the machines is what optimizes
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the environment for ballot stuff it's the ballot stuffing the ballot stuffing is basically the paper
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trail where you're trying to more or less match what's happened in the machines in the software and
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unless republicans get hit to that game and understand that this is how we're being attacked
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we're not serious about improving the terrain for for donald trump's uh victory in 2024 and this
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is critical because this is basically the area of of attack that we just really have to get our heads
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around so i would love to work with all the folks that have the ambitions that compete with the democrats
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but you can't out harvest a high-speed ballot printing device okay number one uh would definitely
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we're already committed to hooking you up with the charlie kirk group because they're going to be the
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tip of the spear in this and they got to hear your briefing asap so we'll make sure that we we take
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care of that but dhs you know we had today uh you were on the morning show and in in a couple segments
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before you we had uh congressman luna and a polina luna and about oversight and there's a huge fight
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they're gonna she says on thursday they're gonna bring to the floor a contempt and she says gonna be
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criminal contempt of ray uh about holding back evidence holding back the whistleblowers everything
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on a place that clearly has the oversight of the executive branch on dhs and we're gonna have by
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the way stories are breaking uh breaking today about how people are infuriated by this app that dhs has
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put out and so we know they're going to be called up to capitol hill to answer for that
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why are there no hearings on this right now why have we not brought up dhs instead of going out
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to all the different counties and jurisdictions why have we not gone to the railhead and brought
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up dhs particularly since this guy wolf is all the time he went to the oval office told trump is the
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most secure ever uh i think he testified at j6 at the j6 hearings if i remember correctly is the most
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secure in the history he's uh goes to he gets invited to conservative conferences i see him all the
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time talking about it's the most because why are we not having this now come forward in closed session
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if it's classified in an open session if it's not so the american people can see and back up
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what you're talking about do you think it would back it up or you think one of the reasons
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they're not doing it and people in capitol hill that nobody that know this and understand it think
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that maybe you're off the mark well i i know what our experts have produced and so we're not guessing
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here we've we've evaluated over 400 cast vote records across the country that show an impossible
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manipulation of votes we're seeing illegal procedures i think the problem here is that there's a vested
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interest from the swamp to not investigate the very machinery that allowed them to get in and so i think
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many of them actually know just how vulnerable these systems are in fact you can find countless
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hours of tape of hillary clinton amy klobuchar um kamala harris and everyone else talking about the
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very issues that i'm talking about and they had experts from the atlantic council a globalist regime
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and interestingly enough as soon as biden was installed what happened to those actors someone put
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them in a broom cupboard we haven't heard from them and we don't hear the refrain from democrats and
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even some republicans on how vulnerable these systems are so both can't be true we have the
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experts we've analyzed the data i think what we're dealing with here is a civil war between
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different intelligence agencies within the department of home and security and they don't
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want this evidence to come forward and i think the reason why they don't want it to come forward is they
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don't want trump back i i mean that there's your straightforward answer you got people like desantis that
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never talks about machines that will actually buddy up with attorneys from dominion and the obvious
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answer is that he needs those machines he needs this rigged software to defeat trump during a primary
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and if we can prop up someone like biden who is not all there uh bronte santis actually will stand a
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very very decent chance of prevailing from uh from a standpoint of using machines and devices that
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facilitate fraud that's his only chance so you've got a lot of rhinos out there that are completely
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fine with the election system as is the question is are we as we the people as maga willing to do
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the work hang on because i want to make sure you you we'll talk let's leave that aside for a second
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don't you feel that you you're spinning off or you can spin off quite easily into a conspiracy so vast
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and then people start saying i mean because now and i realize i i i am adamant in the fact that ron
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de santis is controlled by the the big money donors the ken griffins etc it's one of the reasons his his
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campaign i don't think is really caught taking traction because it really doesn't get to the heart
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of maga he always pulls his punches one of the reasons he pulls his punches is that uh the ken griffins
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of the world are in charge of it but are you also saying that there there are elements of the republican
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party and the republican establishment that are comfortable with this and that and and do can
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you point to any specific evidence that backs up that assertion that establishment republicans
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or republicans in the system uh actually don't have a problem with this with the way it's structured
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right now yes steve i mean look at this the latest rasmussen poll shows that eighty percent of
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republicans do not trust our current election system when you actually look at the representation that
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we have in washington you don't see eighty percent of the republicans standing up for the american
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people furthermore you got sixty four percent of independents that feel the same way and democrats
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are actually approaching fifty percent so a clear majority of americans are in lockstep with their
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common sense on what they've seen over the past election cycles uh so it's not an indictment against me
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because you know we've got senators and congressmen that are too busy to solve the problem it's actually an
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indictment against them um i don't speculate so when i talk about cast vote record summaries we show
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the quantitative proof of manipulation they don't want to address those issues they want to sweep it
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away and deal with band-aid fixes they want to talk about voter id that's fine it's important they want
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to talk about voter registration what i'm showing you is is proof of automation through backdoor software
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that is being leveraged by the department of home and security it's not conspiratorial because
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we showed you evidence of automation in my state we've done the work in hawaii where we found 75
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000 backdated you know basically false registrations that were put in the system
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and then lately we we investigated brower county with the work chris jersky that shows that voter ids
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are being bifurcated and creating false addresses that basically deploy phantom balance like we're not
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making this up we we can defend our work so this isn't about conspiracies but you know the thing
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that drives me crazy about the whole thing about conspiracies as as a prosecutor i used to prove
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criminal conspiracies all the time all it is is a shared agreement to carry out a task that's all
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a conspiracy is and to think that the swamp doesn't have a shared purpose in seeing that donald trump
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not be re-elected for a third time i mean i just don't know what to tell you
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i mean you're seeing this and now all these uh all these rhino candidates that are that are coming
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i want to thank you for staying over give your site all your coordinates of how people get to you and
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particularly get this presentation you just made sure you can find me on truth at professor david
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record thanks steve okay uh professor a great job thank you for doing this thank you for uh for
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changing travel plans to do this uh actually in the war room okay we're going to take a short
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the landing in normandy a uh another war is breaking out and metastasizing on the eurasian
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commemoration of what they call the longest day and we've gone through the day and
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talked about it we'll also make sure this kicks off really this
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what two month long battle of normandy uh which they thought was going to be over much quicker than
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it was remember all the first day objectives for coming off the beach never happened they thought
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they'd be miles inland and taking towns and hamlets that didn't happen they barely got off the beach
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at the end of the first day particularly in omaha beach so it was a uh a you know 10 000 i think
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the allies combined 10 to 12 000 casualties and been a lot of controversy about that people think
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it's number may actually be much much higher but let's say this was slaughter pin um what we're
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seeing now is and i can't that's our ash rebecca koffer come on who's an expert you know rahim and
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myself and others we keep going through what's being reported and all the blog sites it's it's
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quite confusing uh george orwell had a great book called uh homage to catalonia which i think is his
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most powerful book about the spanish civil war and he actually has a a quote in there that says
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when he got there he realized that things that are reported towns that have been shelled uh
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expeditions that have been done uh people have been saved heroes there it was all made up when he got
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there he said much of what had been reported in the western press at the time was propaganda you
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know from from from both sides that many of the things that were reported to happen never happened
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at all so rebecca koffler joins us rebecca first off and one of our big fears is uh and and you saw
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this even in the budget fight this debt ceiling fight uh the senate gets it and the senate says there's
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got to be a supplemental we gotta we want to put we're going to prove and put a pin in two pins
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number one the first pin is supplemental defense another pin is supplemental on ukraine
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i think mccarthy came out and i said there's not going to be a supplemental on defense he already i
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think ruled that out last night i don't believe he said anything about ukraine this is supposed to be
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the time of the big spring offensive can you just put because i think for people that are watching
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are watching and particularly you know rahim myself wasovic we see a war that's metastasizing we
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say you know they're having hits inside of moscow there's things partisan groups on the border we're
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seeing now kosovo and serbia and and rahim says well they're not interconnected i said hey it's the
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there's a war in the ukraine now next thing you know the balkans is lighting up that's how world
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war one started so just walk us through give us your assessment of this in this fabled renowned
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spring offensive where are we in this thing well first of all uh steve uh my assessment is that
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there's a permanent war right now in europe on the european peninsula and as you correctly pointed
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out the uh russia ukraine conflict has metastasized beyond the immediate battlefield in ukraine regarding
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the offensive the ukrainian offensive has lost its momentum before it actually has begun why is that it is
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because uh ukrainians despite their valiant uh fighting their uh their will to fight that they have
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exhibited they don't have enough weaponry to um amass you know a traditional large-scale counteroffensive
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the way that most people think about uh counteroffensives right why do they not have enough uh weaponry
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it's because uh it trickles down uh to the ukrainians but president biden um although he has promised a lot
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they don't get it in the numbers that they actually need why is that because biden's entire strategy
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is virtue signaling he wants to show that he's doing something having slept through his intelligence
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briefings and as you know i'm a former dia intelligence house and biden was the vice president
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during the obama's presidency when he wanted to do uh a reset with russia despite the fact that there was
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every single signpost that we had every piece of intelligence uh about what putin was preparing to do
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so no they don't have enough weaponry uh to uh launch this counteroffensive but okay
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hang on hang on hang on hang on before you go there yes people i can already tell you people's heads
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people's heads are blowing up we have massive shortages here in the united states for our own defense
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and and and the secretary of navy says hey we're not going to have enough ammunition uh and weaponry to
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defend the south china sea in the straits of taiwan because everything's pouring thing
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pouring into ukraine heretofore the entire mantra is that all nato's out of bullets all nato's out
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of ammunition the united states i i thought the mantra was we are pouring in so much weaponry into
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ukraine because it's a proxy war between nato the west and in the united states and russia and we're
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going to fight until the last ukrainian male dies but the one thing that wasn't a problem is that
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we have because every day it's another 400 million dollars here nato has a meeting they're having
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this they commit to it how do you possibly sit there and say that not enough weaponry i realize
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on combined arms tanks armor the f-16s they're now copying the fact they won't come to the fall
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at minimum to their train but is it is the combined arms of the tanks and the aircraft for a a real
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offensive or is it just the ammunition which i think most people in the united states will say oh my god
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haven't we spent like 200 billion dollars on this thing rebecca we absolutely have in fact we have
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provided a promise to provide um like you said 200 billions in uh weaponry and as well as cash to
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believe it or not pay uh for ukrainian government uh bureaucrats and but uh and we have actually depleted
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our own uh arsenal of 155 millimeter ammunition is is just gone we we are not able to uh produce enough
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for ourselves or even the europeans are not able to provide but the in terms of the combined arms what
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i was trying to say uh steve they don't have the capacity the combat potential to mount a serious
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counter-offensive um but what they are doing right now is a series of ground incursions as well as
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drone strikes deep into russia to destabilize uh putin to destabilize the russians and to put the
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psychological pressure on the russian population to withdraw support um from putin the ukrainians want
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to demonstrate that russia is not going to be safe and that is very dangerous uh because it just plays
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into the narrative that putin has created uh he told the russians that russia is actually under assault
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it's not russia that's waging war on ukraine it's actually the entire west the united states is waging
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this war and biden himself actually and the pentagon senior pentagon officials have admitted that we want
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to bleed russia out so yes this war is escalating every day because all of these small incursions and
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small um uh drone strikes although they don't amount to much military value and if they won't
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achieve victory but they will continue to destabilize uh the eurasian peninsula and that has very
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tremendous consequences for example just today um there was an explosion that destroyed a massive dam the
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kahovka dam a hydro electrical uh power plant creating a massive flood so that uh it is my intelligence
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assessment that the russians are behind it uh they wanted to disrupt the momentum of ukrainians
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counter-offensive and they wanted to block the ukrainian forces uh from um entering the pathway that
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would give them the ability to sever the bridge between russia and crimea that was the russians uh major
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concern and so what's happening right now the ukrainians cannot enter the dnipro uh cross the dnipro river
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but the unspeakable consequences that could potentially emanate from this uh explosion from this destruction
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is there's a nuclear plant zaporizhio the largest plant in europe and all of the uh reactors have been
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been in in the safe mode recently because they've been shelled by ukrainians and by the russians and
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there was a danger of uh nuclear radiation radiation leak obviously and so right now that area is being
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flooded and even though these reactors right now are in the safe mode they still require some water you
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know uh to cool and so right now there's a possibility that there's a radiological you know hazmat
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situation brewing in that area that could affect europe and that is why this world is very dangerous
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hang on this is what i get to about the metastasizing because you you said at the top
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the valor and the courage and the will to fight the ukrainian people and and that can't be questioned
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i mean one of the tragedies here and this is what our theory of the case has been from day one is that
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they they they're being used as a proxy and the west is going to fight until the last ukrainian male
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is dead on the battlefield but here's what's i think disturbing is that you've had a couple things
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happen the last couple days you've had these outright all in and not just drone strikes i mean
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sophisticated missile attacks on kiev on the capital that are only stopped because of some
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combination of artificial intelligence in the in whatever patriot battery system we've given them
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that still remains so they're shelling the uh or you know they're they're hitting the capital in
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addition you have extraordinary efforts like this dam that that's clearly been breached and is going to
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cause a lot of trouble the the attacks against the ukrainian people that are outside the more
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traditional eastern uh donbass or bakhmut where we've seen these horrific battles so far
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it started to expand and at the same time you've got either partisan groups of this kind of border
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conflict or incursions into russia from uh from a certain um certain elements you've got the attack
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into moscow now it's a couple of them with these drone strikes trying to get the civilians talked about
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and we now know from the times of london which we've had on now ben harnwell twice from rome
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the times of london is saying essentially that uh there's a massive evidence that the blowing up of
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the pipeline the german pipeline was done by ukrainian paramilitary or ukrainian uh as a covert
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operation of ukrainian intelligence what i don't think is being presented is that this thing is expanding
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in its in its lethal nature is expanding in its expansion of civilian casualties economic warfare this
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is very close to spinning out of control and first off do you agree with me on that do you think that
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this is now spinning out of control in every indice you can look at either expansion into civilian
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territory civilian casualties economic warfare even including into western europe ma'am absolutely 100
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it's a multi-domain warfare not only i agree with you steve uh back in the intelligence community
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we war game this this particular conflict right and as you know i predicted it myself in my book uh
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putin's playbook so every time we conducted a war game right and it was uh the united states versus
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russia fighting over a post-soviet state like ukraine exactly what we in a proxy war every single time
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the escalation gradually happened and into either the cyber armageddon uh type of situation space
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armageddon because everything is conducted now through the satellites every aspect of warfare is
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connected through satellites the russians know it and at some point they would attack you know either
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uh u.s satellites that are powering our communications or they would attack through cyber our grid to put
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pressure on us to withdraw support from the ukrainians or all the way into the nuclear armageddon um it is
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not a coincidence that president biden himself mentioned it to his donors uh a few months ago this
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is all serious and now it's unraveling right in front of our eyes um and as you mentioned uh these uh
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types of incursions you know partisan warfare uh or guerrilla warfare as as we call it sabotage and even
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drone attacks on the kremlin and on the nordstrom pipeline there's only so much that putin can't take
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right and his mindset is something that i have spent a lot of time you know most of my intelligence
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career on his mindset right there comes a point when you cross that red line and the problem with
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putin is that he says it's too many times right this is the red line this is a red line just like
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what he was talking about ukraine you know uh he was warning the us and europe do not uh get them into
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nato do not try to um you know place all these various you know military military hardware in
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ukraine and and nobody believes that we convince ourselves that oh he's bluffing i heard it so many
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times from the obama administration officials uh when i briefed them briefed the pentagon briefed
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the white house during obama and they said oh no putin is not going to do that and i'm like seriously
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he's not going to do that but he's been saying he's going to do and then nobody believes it and
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then boom the invasion uh of ukraine right and so with the same um in the same manner he's been talking
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about remember russia is the world's greatest nuclear power right they trump even u.s arsenal nuclear arsenal
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especially in tactical nukes russia holds a 10 to 1 military um uh advantage right uh we have 200 they
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have 2 000 uh president trump tried to correct that situation but uh it didn't happen right so putin has
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been warning has been warning as it's been warning and nobody's listening they're kind of taking it very
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you know cavalierly and what i am concerned about is that what we played out in those war games back in
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the intelligence community is going to unravel in real life and we're creeping up on the escalation
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ladder steadily towards that catastrophic situation i want to go to two two things i only got about
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four minutes i got to get to you both number one is the kosovo serbian thing rahim says they're not
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connected uh is there any connection at all because now when you got a hot zone in the balkans you add to
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a shooting war a major shooting war in ukraine that's expanding only bad things will happen give
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it give me two minutes on kosovo serbia my intelligence analysis uh suggests that there is
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a connection uh between the russia ukraine conflict and uh the current uh flare-up in kosovo how so well first
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of all uh kosovo uh the uh there are clashes right now between ethnic serbs that are the minority
00:48:48.080
population and albanians that are the majority and um they are all over the government and and the police
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and the flare-ups uh are because of the uh local elections where actually the serbians won when serbia
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believes that kosovo that gained independence after the collapse of uh yugoslavia and after nato uh
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bombed um yugoslavia uh serbs actually believe that kosovo is the birthplace of their nations uh serbia has
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never accepted the independence of kosovo and so um but the link between the two is this uh prigozin who is
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the head of the wagner group right putin's butcher is uh his current uh nickname uh recently put out
00:49:41.920
a video where he stated that the wagner group is opening the second front there are intelligence
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reports this is suggesting that serbian militia uh is joining forces with the wagner group fighters
00:49:58.720
in order to conduct destabilization operations in europe specifically in kosovo and 30 nato peacekeepers
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were injured as a result of these clashes and so nato is deploying extra 700 uh troops or peace
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keepers right okay but but hang on this this is get to my point of the second the second i was gonna
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say if the spring offensive fails why is russia doing this because then russia is making the case of
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nato that they are dangerous uh and they've got to be put down uh if this is backed by the wagner group
00:50:33.360
and backed by any money or arms from the russian government isn't that making the case of nato
00:50:40.000
the saying hey it's not just not eastern ukraine they're looking for it's just not crimea they're
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looking for they're looking for all of ukraine and then they want to expand down into the balkans
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we got about a minute 90 seconds ma'am so what the russians are trying to do they want to
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to demonstrate to strategic message message to the europeans that they're going to take this conflict
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outside of the immediate battlefield and the europeans will not sleep well at night that's what
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they are trying to demonstrate because they want the europeans and the americans to stop providing
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weaponry to ukraine and especially the f-16s that is putin's calculation and he also wants to strain
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u.s resources nato resources and to divert our attention i know it doesn't fit the american mindset
00:51:36.400
but this is putin's mindset he thinks differently he doesn't think like an american he thinks like a russian
00:51:43.440
you you've you nailed on your book real quickly got 30 seconds how they get to your writing how
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