Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 316： Hotez Hides From RFK Debate Challenge

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing

00:00:17.740 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians

00:00:25.500 get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia

00:00:31.280 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations

00:00:36.360 that's why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight

00:00:40.100 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host

00:00:47.240 stephen k bannon contrary to what rfk jr and other anti-vax nuts have claimed there is no connection

00:00:54.240 between vaccines and autism no connection no established documented connection between

00:00:59.500 vaccines and serious diseases or mass death vaccines tend to save lives across the board do

00:01:06.060 they not that's what the peer-reviewed evidence overwhelmingly shows does it not and people are

00:01:11.220 dying right now from covid still because the evidence on covid vaccines efficacy is being

00:01:17.420 ignored or shouted down on social media well there's there's three three or four moving parts to this so

00:01:23.040 i've been i'm a vaccine scientist i make low-cost patent-free vaccines for low and middle-income

00:01:29.480 countries or we made 100 million doses of we made two vaccine prototypes that led to 100 million doses

00:01:36.560 being administered in india and indonesia no patents minimal strings attached so we actually found a way

00:01:42.340 to bypass the pharma companies and yet rfk jr incessantly calls me a pharma shill when if anything

00:01:49.040 our vaccines maybe kept pfizer and moderno out of markets in india and indonesia so i don't understand

00:01:54.980 that piece and then i the reason i got involved with rfk jr in the first place is i have uh an adult

00:02:01.500 daughter rachel who has autism and intellectual disabilities and wrote the book vaccines did not

00:02:06.260 cause rachel's autism that refuted all of his false claims and and and that's been you know he's been

00:02:13.240 uh kind of after me uh ever since then and now he's uh added again and but this time you know

00:02:20.880 ilana it's it's i'm sorry this time eddie it's it's caused something really terrible and that is

00:02:27.280 during our covid pandemic i have a new book coming out that basically says 200 000 americans needlessly

00:02:34.380 perished because they believe the anti-vaccine disinformation and refused to take a covid vaccine

00:02:42.140 during our delta wave and ba1 omicron wave in 2021-22 after vaccines were widely uh available

00:02:49.120 so the point is anti-vaccine disinformation it's always done a lot of damage and harm but now it's

00:02:55.040 a lethal force in the united states and that's why we that's why we have to have that discussion and i

00:02:59.560 offer to come and talk to go on joe rogan again i've been on a couple of times and have that discussion

00:03:05.040 with it but not to turn it into the jerry springer show with having rfk jr on

00:03:10.160 well so it's it's sad because i said i'm so fed up with the debate me debate me uh because it's not

00:03:16.600 really about the debate if it was about finding out information as you said you've already written

00:03:20.040 about vaccines and autism you've already spoken and written about covid vaccines i think you've

00:03:25.440 been on msnbc and other channels hundreds of times since the start of the pandemic people can

00:03:29.880 hear your views and the evidence you bring to this so they're not actually interested

00:03:33.060 in evidence and it's sad means that you're a man who basically has saved lives abroad

00:03:38.020 with the vaccines you've developed whereas rfk has contributed to a culture a vaccine misinformation

00:03:43.040 culture that has led to the deaths as you say of hundreds of thousands of lives and yet he's the

00:03:47.420 one being celebrated by tech billionaires like musk and jack dorsey while you're being smeared and

00:03:52.500 defamed and i would say i don't know if you've agreed to debate or not my advice is not to and people

00:03:57.700 might find that surprising because i wrote a book about debate but i just think there's a time and a

00:04:02.180 place for a debate i don't think a historian of world war ii should debate a holocaust denier i

00:04:07.380 think just that's that's my analogy here like i don't think these debates between experts and

00:04:12.980 cranks do anything other than elevate the cranks

00:04:15.160 elevating the cranks okay we're going to start um quite unique firestorm going on the weekend we're

00:04:23.180 going to break it down all elements of it i want to start with the own natalie winters natalie

00:04:27.520 for as he says he's been on msnbc hundreds of times i think thousands of times we've cut many

00:04:34.460 of those clips but much of the war room audience uh may not exactly know who this guy is why he's

00:04:40.080 important of course natalie winters has been on him from day one tell us who is it dr hotez

00:04:45.060 the the the vax pimp the vax pimp for babies the the vax pimp for babies uh natalie who is this guy

00:04:53.480 yes well before we get into the really good receipts i just have to say i have watched a lot

00:04:58.580 of people whether it's anthony fauci francis collins the head of the cdc do you know hours and

00:05:04.180 hours of media interviews peter hotez is the only one who always wears his lab coat emblazoned with all

00:05:10.400 the different hospitals that he works for so that that is the tell in my opinion that he is and always

00:05:15.360 has been some pro some pro vaccine uh psyop and i say that as the daughter of an infectious disease

00:05:22.000 doctor uh but no peter hotez really i think if you subscribe to the mindset that the mainstream media

00:05:28.180 waged really an information warfare campaign during covid to get you to take vaccines to get you to comply

00:05:33.900 with the mandates he has been one of not just the leading foot soldiers but really a commander in the

00:05:39.160 whole movement you couldn't turn on msnbc or cnn um without seeing his lovely face telling you uh and

00:05:45.980 your kid all the way as young as you know six days old to get vaccinated but why he is so important i

00:05:52.120 know you're having dr wolf on later in the program to really go through and debunk some of his claims but

00:05:57.000 i think dr hotez really represents what is this very dangerous merger of so-called scientists and the

00:06:04.820 power of government and what i mean by that is that we had uncovered back all the way back and believe

00:06:09.900 it or not in 2021 back when i was working at the national pulse how he had actually authored a paper

00:06:15.020 amidst covid demanding that the united states government increase and basically make it a federal

00:06:22.120 hate crime to dare to even criticize scientists the perfect example that he puts forward in this paper

00:06:29.420 which is actually published and believe it or not a peer-reviewed journal uh he specifically singles

00:06:34.260 out criticism of anthony fauci and there's a wonderful graph that i had sent to cameron it's

00:06:39.640 sort of a flow chart how he identifies far-right extremists conservative news outlets obviously shows

00:06:46.400 like war room as leading to aggression against science or u.s scientists and then goes on i think he

00:06:52.900 should well he really shouldn't even stick to the science but he starts to draw historical comparisons

00:06:57.180 and says that all of his critics are just like adherents to the nazi movement under hitler fascism

00:07:03.640 under mussolini leninism and marxism i don't know how you can reconcile all those together but this is

00:07:10.000 someone who i think has just been throwing out really baseless claims i think that historical

00:07:14.760 comparison that he makes in the paper is a perfect example because he's never actually had to answer

00:07:19.980 for any of the claims that he's made because the mainstream media runs really in true full force

00:07:26.200 praetorian guard nature uh for any of the claims that he's been making

00:07:30.120 want me to if uh memphis can put that chart back up i need to walk through this chart and um

00:07:38.040 because he also put a tweet out this weekend talking about he says this elon tucker rogan rfk

00:07:45.120 uh he says this is the beginning of a major neo-fascist movement or this is the elements of

00:07:50.620 of course we're the fascist so it's the merger of the they're neo-fascists we're fascists

00:07:54.660 that's coming together and he goes and the tweet he goes i hope the biden white house

00:07:59.300 and like the justice department is paying attention i mean this guy's dangerous because

00:08:03.840 he wants to he wants to call out the dogs immediately walk take a second and walk us

00:08:07.780 through this chart well that's that's the scary part is sort of what the conclusion of this

00:08:13.580 chart is as you can see on screen it's primarily conservative news outlets and conservative public

00:08:19.300 intellectuals which he doesn't really even go to in great detail what exactly that means

00:08:23.400 in the paper which is someone who has followed this you know misinformation disinformation beat

00:08:28.120 for a while that's always a red flag because it means those terms are very malleable uh and whoever

00:08:33.580 the critic of the day is they are always somehow worked around to make sure that they fit those

00:08:38.480 standards uh but the conclusion of it is what is really the scary part and frankly what you're seeing

00:08:43.680 play out right now because even in the paper he says the president of the united states uh together

00:08:49.540 with science leaders at the federal agency level need to do something to push back against this

00:08:56.200 science uh this aggression towards scientists so again it goes to what we've been seeing whether

00:09:02.580 it's the dhs cissa doj uh just using these agencies uh to engage in acts really of cover-up but of

00:09:10.700 censorship that is far outside the scope of the first amendment and and i think what the really

00:09:15.820 even more dangerous part yes you know he's saying the quiet part out loud when he's of course going

00:09:21.320 on these mainstream media outlets and calling for the government to do something in these peer-reviewed

00:09:25.140 papers uh but a lot of this censorship as you know as dr wolf knows happens sort of behind the scenes

00:09:30.600 it's laundered uh through these ngo type groups through these non-profit 501c3s um and dr hotas really

00:09:38.360 has been shady about where a lot of his funding comes from he's posted up um at baylor college running

00:09:44.260 sort of the pediatrics desk there uh but there's a lot of big pharma money that flows through there

00:09:49.440 and i think peter hotas he needs to be looked at as an example of how the mainstream media and more

00:09:55.020 broadly the establishment apparatus gets away with laundering vaccine talking points sort of using the

00:10:01.740 appeal to logos right the idea that this man has all these credentials he's unbiased he's an expert

00:10:06.820 right trust the experts as they always say uh and that's why this this response frankly steve is so

00:10:12.760 interesting because you see that right this is just one doctor it's sort of weird that he's getting

00:10:17.420 the prime time spot on msnbc usually when joe rogan says anything or rfk jr this is the first story i've

00:10:24.220 ever seen the mainstream media actually cover truthfully right when it comes to what rfk jr

00:10:30.040 has said or what joe rogan is challenging usually these people don't get a second in the mainstream

00:10:34.220 media so it's really interesting that they are running uh like really with their tails between their legs

00:10:39.980 to run cover uh for this man who really like i said has been at the tip of the spear uh or really

00:10:45.540 the tip of the jab i guess the tip of the vaccine for pushing uh these vaccine mandates on americans

00:10:51.580 since it was a holiday weekend and they weren't fully organized you had juneteenth the day you had

00:10:57.380 a father's day you could tell that the mainstream media was not did not have did you happy juneteenth they

00:11:03.680 did not have the they did not have the starting team on the field but that's what's so interesting

00:11:09.940 what they came out with is that now i want you to give me your observations there's no need for a

00:11:15.000 debate there's no need to have we don't need rfk debating this guy the facts are so overwhelming

00:11:21.240 that they are you know they are the truth what we've put forward is the truth that no no debate

00:11:27.900 necessary your observations on that line of defense man it's just preposterous especially

00:11:35.000 coming from these people uh who are always using the refrain of trust the experts i mean it harkens

00:11:40.960 me back to my college days when you would see them shutting down conservative speakers branding them

00:11:46.560 you know as crazy nazis and it's always been well then sunlight is the best disinfectant you know

00:11:51.460 engage with them um but i frankly too i think this news cycle the whole vaccine stuff is coming

00:11:57.740 up against the origins of covid report which i know you and i had been talking about so i think

00:12:03.460 they're sort of trying to get ahead of that and trying to smear the people much like the voices you

00:12:08.740 have on this show who have always said that covid 19 developed uh from the wuhan institute of

00:12:13.580 virology now you sort of get tacit admissions from the mainstream press and these u.s investigators at

00:12:19.080 least some of them um i think they're trying to to sort of put in lockstep the anti-vaccine

00:12:25.360 you know alleged crazies with the people who believe covid 19 developed in a lab so i think

00:12:30.840 there's something a lot bigger in terms of narrative building going on here because like i said

00:12:36.360 usually the mainstream media doesn't jump to cover uh rfk joe rogan and vaccines that sounds like a

00:12:42.820 you know three-part story that they would be running away from uh at full speed

00:12:47.620 you're absolutely correct uh the the kowtowing of lincoln in beijing the whole uh there's a lot

00:12:55.740 coming out on this uh on the covid origins report there's more investigations going in

00:13:01.060 to the ccp giving money to biden so this is all coming out that's going to be and this is going to be

00:13:05.540 a major part of 2024 natalie how do people get to your reporting how do they get to all of uh all

00:13:11.160 the content you're putting up on social media i'm natalie g winters on all platforms and make

00:13:16.320 sure you go to warroom.org and sign up for the newsletter natalie thanks thanks for joining us

00:13:22.700 tonight appreciate it tell you what i want to do i'm gonna mix this up a little bit before besides

00:13:28.240 walensky i want to go back and play hotes again for uh because when they talk about shutting down

00:13:34.500 these voices one of the principal voices they're talking about when natalie brings up that paper that

00:13:38.440 he he wrote one of the principal voices they want to shut down is our next uh she's beyond a guest

00:13:44.900 almost like a contributor here at war room and and really has led an action action action effort

00:13:51.120 to sort this thing out let's go ahead and play hotes again for naomi wolf

00:13:55.600 contrary to what rfk jr and other anti-vax nuts have claimed there is no connection between vaccines and

00:14:02.960 autism no connection no established documented connection between vaccines and serious

00:14:08.240 diseases or mass death vaccines tend to save lives across the board do they not that's what

00:14:14.420 the peer-reviewed evidence overwhelmingly shows does it not and people are dying right now from

00:14:19.900 covid still because the evidence on covid vaccines efficacy is being ignored or shouted down on social

00:14:26.540 media well there's there's three three or four moving parts to this so um i've been i'm a vaccine

00:14:32.460 scientist i make low-cost patent-free vaccines for low and middle-income countries or we made 100

00:14:38.640 million doses of we made two vaccine prototypes that led to 100 million doses being administered in

00:14:45.100 india and indonesia no patents minimal strings attached so we actually found a way to bypass

00:14:50.400 the pharma companies and yet rfk jr incessantly calls me a pharma shill when if anything our vaccines

00:14:57.500 maybe kept pfizer moderna out of markets in india and indonesia so i don't understand that piece and

00:15:04.040 then i the reason i got involved with rfk jr in the first place is i have uh an adult daughter rachel

00:15:09.840 who has autism and intellectual disabilities and wrote the book vaccines did not cause rachel's autism

00:15:15.420 that refuted all of his false claims and and and that's been you know he's been uh kind of after

00:15:22.460 me uh ever since then and now he's uh added again and but this time you know ilana it's it's i'm sorry

00:15:30.780 this time eddie it's it's caused something really terrible and that is during our covid pandemic i have

00:15:38.020 a new book coming out that basically says 200 000 americans needlessly perished because they believe

00:15:45.000 the anti-vaccine disinformation and refused to take a covid vaccine during our delta wave and ba1

00:15:51.840 omicron wave in 2021 22 after vaccines were widely uh available so the point is anti-vaccine

00:15:58.860 disinformation it's always done a lot of damage and harm but now it's a lethal force in the united

00:16:04.000 states and that's why we that's why we have to have that discussion and i offer to come and talk to

00:16:08.460 go on joe rogan again i've been on a couple of times and have that discussion with him but not

00:16:13.600 have it okay uh i'll stop it right there maybe i'll go back and play that again uh

00:16:21.840 naomi wolf a lethal a lethal force in modern american uh culture uh your your your response

00:16:30.340 breakdown observations deconstruction of what we've seen on just this clip but what transpired over the

00:16:37.060 weekend ma'am so a couple of things really stand out from that clip one is you know as a journalist

00:16:45.860 i'm looking at medi hassan who used to be a very serious credible person who's an acquaintance of

00:16:51.420 mine he's interviewed me a number of times and he's just thrown his credibility in the toilet i mean

00:16:58.660 there's just no other way to put it um making claims for which he has no evidence and for which

00:17:04.320 there is no evidence and one of the things he implied was that um it's not um a mass death event

00:17:12.500 uh the rollout uh the rollout of of these they're clearly um what i hear is that they're picking up

00:17:17.100 talking points from ofcom the british media uh uh watchdog that um went after me and mark stein for

00:17:24.860 my calling this a mass death event and i mean they're going after other people too obviously like

00:17:30.620 rfk jr but um for them to sweep that under the rug and and claim that people died because they didn't

00:17:40.140 take a covid vaccine that we've now thoroughly proven pfizer knew from november of 2020 didn't

00:17:46.200 work to stop covid it's just flying in the face of all established fact now based on primary sources

00:17:52.860 and you know sorry medi you really should be ashamed of yourself you should be ashamed of yourself you

00:17:58.580 used to be a credible journalist and you will never live this down because people are finding out the

00:18:02.640 truth i guess the second thing that jumps out steve is you know dr hotez saying that he managed to

00:18:10.980 bypass the patent process and roll out hundreds of thousands of vaccines that he cooked up with

00:18:17.980 quote-unquote no strings attached and put them in the bodies of people in india and indonesia

00:18:22.780 that is not reassuring and um what it should warn people is that um these monsters are willing to

00:18:30.460 i mean it means he's bypassed all regulatory processes um and and this is very typical of

00:18:37.640 the pharmaceutical industry they'll go to impoverished countries or countries where people

00:18:41.460 don't have a voice and they'll find impoverished people who don't have a voice and they'll simply

00:18:45.960 experiment on them without their informed consent it happens in africa it happens in india in fact

00:18:51.740 india has sued the bill and melinda gates foundation for doing exactly that to young women um kenya has

00:18:58.380 spoken up about how their young women were experimented on and so dr hotez just blithely

00:19:03.860 shared that he invented some nonsense and put it in the bodies of people um and has kind of no patent

00:19:11.120 and i didn't hear him say he has fda approval uh and and that should show you how unscrupulous these

00:19:17.640 people are and what monsters they are and i guess the last thing is debate right i mean i i love natalie

00:19:23.640 so much and i love this platform because we still believe in um the post-enlightenment world in

00:19:29.780 which sunlight is the best best disinfectant if someone isn't telling the truth or is incredible

00:19:34.380 or is wrong about something you open it up to discussion so that the truth can emerge and so

00:19:40.520 that you can respond to your critics or respond to your adversaries so the fact that dr hotez will not

00:19:47.700 get on a single stage and you've got poor medi hassan you know completely emasculated as a journalist

00:19:54.040 being brought forward to defend the premise that you shouldn't debate these crazy anti-vaxxers who

00:20:00.980 have written like rfk jr a 400 page tome with thousands of footnotes you know showing the sources

00:20:08.320 um the fact that medi hassan and dr hotez are like oh we mustn't debate them that really you know

00:20:15.040 obviously to everyone watching should indicate that we're but it's not but hang on but hang on

00:20:20.000 it's it's it's darker it's darker and worse than that he equated correct me if i'm wrong and i think

00:20:27.500 this is why i want you to have it on today to go through this he equated you and i believe that uh

00:20:34.960 you're one of the surviving granddaughters nieces of of holocaust survivors he equated

00:20:41.700 your work and other people's work in here of vaccine hesitancy and want to get to the facts

00:20:47.760 to holocaust deniers am i wrong in that let me speak specifically to that um it's so ironic because

00:20:55.960 one of the ofcom complaints against me is that i invoked the holocaust accurately as an exemplar for the

00:21:03.060 kind of um medicalization of fascism that we're seeing now because indeed historically professional

00:21:12.320 organizations for doctors and doctors themselves were tasked by the national socialists prior to

00:21:18.580 1933 prior to the national socialists gaining uh power in parliament with being the advance guard to

00:21:24.740 create this two-tier society in which there were um useless eaters and and non-useless eaters and and

00:21:30.980 the the advance guard for genocide for what became genocide you know in the in from 1939 to the early

00:21:36.780 40s so this is a a process and um i've been attacked for that but i think that what's happening

00:21:42.820 you know in political consulting it's very common to tell your client to um defang your opposition's

00:21:49.880 best talking points by turning them against your your opponent and so what i see is that people are

00:21:55.440 starting to look around and go wow this is kind of like nazi-ish this is stalinist um the two-tier

00:22:02.640 society the quarantine camps the mandated injections the mengala type and i always say that advisedly

00:22:09.360 science that you see in pfizer documents these charts of suffering and dead babies these charts of

00:22:15.000 you know women's horrible menstrual injury um this is mengala type science and people are noticing

00:22:20.100 that this is nazi science and nazi medicine so i think that what's happened is that the talking

00:22:26.500 points of evildoers have shifted so as they want to claim back and direct at us as natalie pointed out

00:22:33.460 that we're the nazis right that this granddaughter of a woman who lost nine brothers and sisters in the

00:22:38.280 holocaust is behaving in a neo-fascistic way but there's something even more dangerous than that

00:22:43.580 because that's just name calling um what's even more dangerous than that is the chart natalie showed

00:22:48.740 and i'm hearing it over and over aggression aggression anti-vaxxer aggression conspiracy

00:22:53.820 theorist aggression the the holy grail in a society with a first amendment is to turn words into violence

00:23:01.880 and turn ideas into violence and this is something that other cultures can do more easily like

00:23:07.620 canada criminalizes hate speech right because they don't have a first amendment thank god for our

00:23:12.800 founders we have a first amendment um so that means that what these people want to do to us which is

00:23:19.860 lock us up or penalize us or fine us for our first amendment protected words they can't do it unless they

00:23:28.220 can blur that category of speech and words and violence and that's why i've warned all of you at the posse to be

00:23:36.460 aware of the word incitement which criminalized dissent in israel it formerly free civil society in

00:23:42.660 six months it's well it was used against you know donald trump right his incitement his words led to

00:23:49.160 violence allegedly it's a very dangerous word because in america the law is very specific about

00:23:55.300 what incitement to violence is and it's very narrow you have to like tell someone go kill that person

00:24:00.280 right so you know speech that they want to criminalize doesn't fall into that category i would

00:24:05.200 argue president trump's speech didn't fall into that category but but what they're trying to do with

00:24:09.140 these talking points is turn our opinions into aggression and then that's a short step into

00:24:14.980 new laws that are like well you've engaged in aggressive speech you have to be locked up silenced

00:24:20.920 deplatformed quarantine camped fined arrested

00:24:24.140 um you've been at the forefront of this saying that this is information where i remember you came on

00:24:33.480 here and i think was in this early in the spring of 2021 and you talked about the next nazi doctors

00:24:39.080 and i was like wow this is you know this is really getting um um amazing because of the historical

00:24:48.380 analogies we're bringing up before we go to break and you're gonna stay with us for the remainder of the

00:24:53.000 um i just want to go to the facts when they say they won't debate and because here's when he says i

00:25:01.160 got a new book coming out and it's going to show 200 000 people died because of the vaccine hesitancy

00:25:08.620 the vaccine information put out by basically what he's saying is uh the joe rogan's the war room uh

00:25:15.560 then the uh naomi wolfs uh you know others all these great doctors that came forward uh your

00:25:22.600 your work at daily cloud on on the phone book right that we call the reports i just remember

00:25:29.000 that information was not supposed to be seen for 75 years am i correct yeah all that information and

00:25:35.380 data you went through comes from pfizer comes from the research and uh and it's not i tell you what

00:25:41.800 we're going to run out of time here and i want to i want to make sure we give you plenty of runway

00:25:45.420 for the answer so here's what we're going to do we've got this firestorm now and people have to

00:25:50.440 remember there's a couple things happening not just as rfk's presidential campaign obviously starting

00:25:56.780 to get traction and starting to get bring real fear into the to the to the the the system the way

00:26:02.280 it's structured uh but in addition there's a number of things there's a wuhan report going to come

00:26:07.620 out there's an origin report going to come out uh the biden regime is uh is going full tributary

00:26:13.060 state kowtowing uh to the ccp no no conversations at all with blinken over the weekend at all about

00:26:20.080 uh the bioweapon the wuhan lab all of it just remember that this is all coming to the forefront

00:26:25.280 now you got hotes you've got joe rogan elon musk rfk junior tucker carlson everybody kind of

00:26:31.800 throwing in here and we've got the kind of the the person that's really done the r d has done the

00:26:37.680 research has done the hard work of going through the documents it's it's naomi wolf and her team

00:26:42.120 and what i want to do is i just want to lay out the documentary fact evidence as presented by pfizer

00:26:48.280 it's in the pfizer document all next here in the war room

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00:32:06.460 war room battleground with stephen k bannon

00:32:16.300 widely uh available so the point is anti-vaccine disinformation it's always done a lot of damage

00:32:22.620 and harm but now it's a lethal force in the united states and that's why we that's why we have to

00:32:26.780 have that discussion and i offered to come and talk to go on joe rogan again i've been on a couple of

00:32:31.660 times and have that discussion with him but not to turn it into the jerry springer show with having rfk

00:32:37.980 jr on well so it's it's sad because i said i'm so fed up with the debate me debate me uh because it's

00:32:44.860 not really about the debate if it was about finding out information as you said you've already written

00:32:48.540 about vaccines and autism you've already spoken and written about covid vaccines i think you've

00:32:53.820 been on msnbc and other channels hundreds of times since the start of the pandemic people can

00:32:58.460 hear your views and the evidence you bring to this so they're not actually interested

00:33:01.820 in evidence and it sad means that you're a man who basically has saved lives abroad

00:33:07.020 with the vaccines you've developed whereas rfk has contributed to a culture a vaccine misinformation

00:33:11.660 culture that has led to the deaths as you say of hundreds of thousands of lives and yet he's

00:33:15.660 the one being celebrated by tech billionaires like musk and jack dorsey while you're being

00:33:20.220 smeared and defamed and i would say i don't know if you've agreed to debate or not my advice is not

00:33:25.660 to and people might find that surprising because i wrote a book about debate but i just think there's

00:33:30.060 a time and a place for a debate i don't think a historian of world war ii should debate a holocaust

00:33:35.260 denier i just you know that's that's my analogy here like i don't think these debates between experts

00:33:41.260 and cranks do anything other than elevate the cranks a lethal force in modern america naomi wolf

00:33:50.300 um i i want to i want you to respond to that but i want to respond to it in the context of

00:33:56.620 you the war room posse um uh amy your your great team at daily cloud the volunteer lawyers uh researchers

00:34:05.740 the apparatus you put over top of the volunteers 3500 people that have put out a book that i think

00:34:11.420 is in the 10th printing right that with no marketing money at all with nothing at all you compiled this

00:34:17.340 it's been an amazon bestseller and i talk to people the two books they talk to me about all the time is is

00:34:23.340 the rfk book on fauci and your daily cloud besides the book of your journey your personal journey uh which

00:34:30.140 is quite uh relevant in in this uh conversation the hotels i mean it is a that piece is amazing

00:34:38.700 it's three and a half minutes long we just clipped the last minute out of that of how they're in full

00:34:43.260 attack mode talk to me about what pfizer's what pfizer's own internal documents and and and by the

00:34:50.140 way note to self daniel ellsberg passed away over the weekend who really gave the information that that

00:34:56.380 that really was the pentagon papers that changed the direction of everything related to the vietnam

00:35:00.860 war and then informed the the that the uh church committee and and and led us to get to at least the

00:35:06.540 house and senate intelligence to put some controls over the fbi and the ca the modicum of controls we have

00:35:12.140 but what what is what is the beast itself tell you in this apparatus that you can counter

00:35:17.660 hotez as your lethal force that have caused the death of 200 000 innocent americans yeah um

00:35:26.940 i wish that i would be invited to debate uh dr hotez um any number of people could demonstrate

00:35:36.300 how lieish the lies are that he just told to america on msnbc um so let me go through some of the key

00:35:45.260 points in the pfizer documents um first of all you've got to understand they're now playing

00:35:53.180 uh math with alleged deaths right because we've established that there were 1225 deaths

00:36:00.780 in the pfizer documents in the first three months of rollout many of these and this is in our stroke

00:36:06.140 report it's in our uh renal failure report and it's in our liver damage report many of these adverse events

00:36:13.740 including fatalities took place within 48 hours of the injection and many of them within 30 days and i

00:36:22.460 was at a uh gathering um with dr mccullough dr alexander some of the most distinguished dissident

00:36:29.020 doctors over the weekend and they stated that in real science and real medicine if there's a fatality

00:36:35.820 within 30 days of a medical intervention it's attributable to that medical intervention so this

00:36:42.460 i i will insist this is a mass murder event and now you've got to scale that up that's just in the

00:36:49.100 first three months so you've got to scale it up to two years of injecting this in into the bodies of

00:36:54.860 people um you're going to have fatalities at at great scale and actually um steve kirsch has done

00:37:01.900 the math and shown that there are six figures of fatalities attributed to the mrna injection alone

00:37:09.420 in the united states alone and i independently checked government data and showed that he was

00:37:14.940 correct the disabilities are in the millions in the united states alone so what the other side has to do

00:37:20.940 now is claim well not taking the vaccine led to even more deaths than the deaths from the vaccine

00:37:26.780 right because in medicine there always has to be a cost benefit analysis in which the benefit outweighs

00:37:32.700 the risks that's the only metric along with informed consent by which you're supposed to go ahead

00:37:38.620 and administer um a drug or an injection so that's what i see them doing now with rushing out this

00:37:44.860 book by their reliable um john lee calls him a vaccine fetishist uh dr hotez um so i'm going to read

00:37:55.260 you a couple of sentences first of all the pfizer documents i can't say this enough proved that pfizer

00:38:00.940 knew from one month after rollout that the vaccine they created did not stop covet that it did not stop

00:38:07.420 covet so every other claim that medi hassan or the dr hotez or that rachel olenski makes is is a fantasy

00:38:18.540 that is contrary to the conclusions of the manufacturers of this injection right and we get

00:38:25.660 the moderna documents in july so in november of 2020 pfizer had a weak demonstration of efficacy but how

00:38:32.860 did they get there you'll this will blow your mind based on eight cases in the vaccinated cohort versus

00:38:39.740 162 cases in the vaccinated unvaccinated cohort how did they get there they dropped 200 vaccinated

00:38:48.780 people with covid from their study leaving eight vaccinated people with covid 162 unvaccinated on the

00:38:57.980 basis of that fake science they dr walenski the president of the united states dr fauci claimed that

00:39:07.740 the vaccine was 95 effective okay gotta process that they also dropped um 3410 suspected covid cases uh

00:39:21.020 one thousand five hundred and ninety four vaccinated one thousand eight hundred and sixteen placebo they

00:39:26.540 just dropped them so all these vaccinated people in pfizer zone trials in november of 2020 were getting

00:39:33.260 sick with covid and how did pfizer deal with that they dropped them they stopped counting them um and

00:39:42.540 also these experts point out if covid cases occurred in the thousands which they did and investigators used only

00:39:49.100 170 cases of unvaccinated people with infections for efficacy their statistics did not reflect reality

00:39:58.140 and then they destroyed their clinical trial by unblinding and vaccinating all the placebo cohort you

00:40:06.220 gotta understand what this means they had vaccinated people they had unvaccinated people who got covid

00:40:12.620 they dropped all the vaccinated people except for eight who got covid and then at the end of the study

00:40:17.260 they would have had unvaccinated people uh and vaccinated people who would go on into the world

00:40:23.260 and some of them would get sick and some of them would not and they injected all of the unvaccinated

00:40:30.300 people thus destroying their control group so that now we can't know you know if the unvaccinated as

00:40:37.900 the studies are showing don't get covid as often as the vaccinated um pfizer knew that would happen so they

00:40:44.540 dropped they they they they destroyed the evidence of their um their unvaccinated group their control

00:40:51.020 group uh this is not science right this is in mad imaginary fake science that leads to only one

00:40:58.700 conclusion that medi hassan is falsely asserting and that dr hotez is falsely asserting um so let me tell

00:41:06.620 you what else is in the pfizer documents as of november 2020 based on our 3500 experts by november of

00:41:14.300 2020 the words vaccine failure and failure of efficacy are in the pfizer documents these are

00:41:21.500 pfizer's words and i will repeat what i've said many times before there are huge categories of adverse

00:41:28.540 events in these documents 43 000 altogether number one is arthritis type outcomes number two is muscle

00:41:35.980 pain outcomes number three is covid the third most common side effect of getting the vaccine is covid

00:41:44.300 so if people died of covid after they were vaccinated um that is directly attributable to these injections

00:41:51.980 and should be counted in the deaths category that dr hotez is responsible for um so basically he's lying

00:42:00.460 from the very beginning pfizer knew they said in their internal documents that these these injections

00:42:04.940 didn't work to stop covid um so that's the first thing i would say about his lies

00:42:11.980 when you talk about and going through the pfizer documents as you've been able to with the team

00:42:16.060 kind of lay it out in all these i think you're up to 70 some reports now given that warps this is

00:42:22.380 essentially a clinical trial and as you just noted with mcculloch and alexander if you have a clinical trial

00:42:28.540 that's this far based at the beginning you shut down the clinical trial and said hey i think we got

00:42:32.300 to rethink this right but the pfizer and these guys in this force feed reported up to a task force

00:42:39.340 why what was this not disclosed by pfizer to government authorities either fda or fauci or this

00:42:47.980 task force or mike pence who was in charge of it is it is your belief this did not go up the chain of

00:42:53.980 command since it took a lawsuit by the guys in texas even to pry this out from the 75 years

00:42:59.340 is your belief or as you've looked at these documents is there any evidence that this was

00:43:04.060 pushed up the chain of command so that there was actually others who looked the other way knowingly

00:43:09.900 i mean i'm not smiling because it's funny i'm smiling because when you ask a question like that

00:43:15.180 the you're you're using the correct basis for the question which is um that we have a working federal

00:43:20.460 government that's not captured so i will say that these documents didn't just go up the chain of

00:43:27.100 command they they were um in the custody of the top of the chain of command the food and drug

00:43:34.460 administration uh which is part of hhs which has kind of captured you know government processes during the

00:43:43.660 biden administration um is the custodian of these documents i can't stress that enough it's not this

00:43:50.460 lawsuit was not against pfizer the lawsuit was against the fda it was the fda that asked the judge

00:43:56.780 to keep these documents hidden for 75 years the fda many of these documents say fda confidential fda

00:44:04.780 confidential at the bottom of them the fda is supposed to get every one of these documents and dr walensky

00:44:11.660 receives every one of these documents um in fact one of the most shocking things our team uncovered

00:44:18.620 is in report 69 where all these catastrophic deaths of fetuses and the poisoning of breast milk were

00:44:27.820 documented laconically in the special report in the pfizer documents that report went to

00:44:34.220 dr walensky on april 20th of 2021 as well as the fda and we don't know to whom else it went

00:44:41.100 um and then dr walensky issued a press conference from the white house three days later telling the

00:44:47.660 women of america what she knew to be a falsehood a damaging dangerous murderous falsehood stating that

00:44:53.660 the vaccines were safe and effective for pregnancy and that she recommended that american pregnant people

00:44:59.740 pregnant women um receive this this injection she had in her hands the report in um our report 69 that

00:45:08.620 shows that pfizer concluded that fetuses were dying due to pfizer's words transplacental exposure to

00:45:15.580 the vaccine pfizer's words she had this and she had in her hand the report showing that they knew

00:45:22.060 you know and they never warned the lactating women of america that there was mrna and spike protein and

00:45:27.260 lipid nanoparticles and polyethylene glycol in the breast milk of vaccinated nursing moms in america that was

00:45:34.220 killing at least one baby in the pfizer document from multi-system organ failure and turning other

00:45:40.940 babies i mean there's this chart steve you just would not believe that dr walensky had in her hands

00:45:45.820 the head of the fda had in their hands that shows babies these babies have swelling of the tissue these

00:45:51.980 babies are inconsolable these babies are vomiting these babies have fevers they're they're destroying

00:45:58.540 damaging babies and extended fevers can be very damaging to a newborn or a small baby um and they

00:46:03.980 know it's from nursing vaccinated moms breast milk she didn't warn women to stop nursing their babies if

00:46:09.660 they were vaccinated so they knew how can i put it nothing of this scale you don't look you don't get

00:46:17.180 to kill americans and burn that political capital without the white house signing off

00:46:22.300 can we play by the way let's go ahead and play i want to play the walensky uh clips just to make

00:46:30.940 sure it's at the front of mind with people then have you respond could we have improved um well you

00:46:38.860 know i think i can tell you where i was when the cnn feed came that it was 95 effective on the vaccine

00:46:46.940 so many of us wanted to be hopeful so many of us wanted to say okay this is our ticket out right now

00:46:52.540 we're done um so i think we had perhaps too little caution and too much optimism um for some good

00:47:00.620 things that came our way i i really do i i think all of us wanted this to be done nobody said waning

00:47:08.380 when when you know oh this vaccine's gonna work oh well it'll work it'll wear off um nobody said well

00:47:15.260 what if the next variant doesn't it doesn't it's not as popular against the next variant

00:47:20.780 the vaccine did not stop spread or infection i'm not saying it was completely bad but it did not stop

00:47:29.980 the spread or infection i think actually if i could actually um just correct that point and that is

00:47:36.220 initially it did for the wuhan strain and for the alpha strain all of the early data and the literature

00:47:41.900 published in the new england journal demonstrated that for those who worked if you didn't get

00:47:46.620 infected that you were not transmitting it to other people and it had very high efficacy early

00:47:51.180 on up to 96 percent so it did change over time okay we're gonna go back i mean this is part of the

00:48:00.620 thing of of you make the case she continues to say safe and effective safe and effective safe and

00:48:05.260 effective her mantra is she accurate in that ma'am uh categorically not and her timeline is a falsehood

00:48:14.860 to congress which is punishable with a fine and up to five years in prison as i understand the penalty

00:48:21.660 for the felony of lying to congress um before that woman started her first day on the job the documents

00:48:29.340 awaiting her on her desk showed that pfizer had concluded that the vaccine had no efficacy and

00:48:35.580 showed that they got to that 95 percent um claim by dumping 200 sick vaccinated people and possibly five

00:48:46.380 figures of um vaccinated people with covid and she knew that the pfizer document said uh that there was

00:48:53.660 failure of efficacy and vaccine failure and the reason i stress the timeline is she's trying to

00:48:58.940 weasel out of her crime by saying oh it waned over time it was effective way back when i said it uh

00:49:07.900 well that's a lie um that's not true the timeline shows that uh pfizer and the fda and thus she knew that

00:49:15.740 it was not effective from january 1st of 2020 um you know and certainly by inauguration day they had this

00:49:25.260 evidence in front of them before the first day she got on the job she knew it was not effective the

00:49:30.300 other thing i want you to know is oh remember too when the pfizer spokesperson told the european

00:49:37.020 parliament that they didn't test for transmission and that's i believe that's true um nothing we've

00:49:42.460 seen in the pfizer documents shows that they have any evidence that it stops transmission listen to to

00:49:48.940 her language carefully she says if you don't get infected you won't transmit she's doing what dr

00:49:55.420 found she made an art form of garbling her sentence so she's not lying before congress yeah if you don't

00:50:02.460 get infected with covid you're not going to transmit covid right whether right i mean um so she's she's

00:50:09.500 covering her lies in tangled grammar um but there is no evidence to show that the vaccine stops you from

00:50:16.700 transmission this is something that i tried to tell my loved ones in october and november of 2021 when

00:50:22.620 the president was saying if you're unvaccinated you and your loved ones are facing a winter of death

00:50:28.860 and destruction and severe disease and hospitalization and people were canceling vacations with me and my

00:50:35.180 husband over the christmas holiday because everyone the spokespeople were saying the unvaccinated will

00:50:40.860 transmit the vaccinated won't transmit that was a lie the science showed it was a lie from the

00:50:46.380 very beginning finally they admitted it was a lie but it's not the timeline that she's claiming she

00:50:51.340 knew perfectly well that there was no such data and may i also note um you know her interlocutor

00:50:58.460 should have said as should all of the republicans and democrats what data she she manages to sprinkle

00:51:05.340 fairy dust into people's eyes and she says the data well you know we're grown-ups with educations show

00:51:10.540 us the data show us the peer-reviewed reference you know let us read the the document um there is

00:51:17.100 there is no such data and if she goes back before congress she'll have to produce that data um and she'll

00:51:22.540 have to account for the fact that she had the information in the pfizer documents from day one she will

00:51:28.700 definitely go back before because that's what we're working on to make sure that everybody's fully

00:51:32.380 briefed by you guys we got to bounce where do people go to daily count clout to get all the background here

00:51:37.820 so very important for everyone to order that book that you've been describing um the pfizer documents

00:51:44.700 the war room daily cloud pfizer documents book on amazon you can also order it on our website it has

00:51:51.340 all the receipts and it also people are using it to diagnose um i mean i'm not a doctor uh but it's

00:51:57.740 very helpful for people to protect their own health because now we're turning our our volunteers

00:52:01.980 attention not just to analysis but to coming up with some ways people can support their health if they

00:52:06.940 have in fact taken this um damaging sterilizing murderous injection um so please do order that

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WarRoom Battleground EP 316： Hotez Hides From RFK Debate Challenge

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