WarRoom Battleground EP 346： Judas Pence Makes His Stand
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Stephan Kambannon and Caroline Ronna McDaniel discuss the indictment of Mike Pence and the impact it will have on the 2020 Democratic primary field and how it will impact the primary field. They also discuss how the indictment has changed the landscape of Democratic primary politics and what it means for the future of the Democratic primary process.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
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get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just like in georgia
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it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
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that's why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
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all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
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stephen k bannon okay welcome uh for our second hour of the late afternoon early evening show
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uh we got a lot to get to and so let's get right on to caroline run caroline i've said
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now in the morning show and throughout the day i've been you know in all these meetings
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and um i keep telling people from what i'm hearing the knives are out this is i need the
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we're in posse to um just sit and listen and take this in and then we're going to come over
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the plan of action but the knives are out for president trump like i've never seen the knives
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out in my life since this indictment which is bringing maga together more than it's ever
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been pulled together before but the donor class and the political operatives knowing that they
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failed in their first attempt to unseat president trump in this primary the failed murdoch primary
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process they're now trying more than ever just give us uh your take on things right now since
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you're always inside baseball on this stuff i think we're seeing the uniparty like fully at work
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right now and the responses from the different primary candidates to the indictment yesterday was
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pretty telling i mean de santis's response was a joke he actually managed to piss off both the never
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trump and the pro trump crowd and so once again de santis is trying to walk this like invisible line
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to where i suspect actually he drops in the polls after this and i believe that at least like 20 to 30
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percent of people that were saying they were just he had just come back home to president trump as a
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result of this um you know the tim scott response was a very tip says basically nothing he actually
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i guess was a little more um defensive of president trump than i expected from even a tim scott and
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then you had mike pence who i mean boy did trump turn out to be right about that guy with just a
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completely ridiculous statement it was quite clear from the indictment that the majority of that was
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coming from pence during it i think this was all kind of a plot and a way to have him then run for
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president so he could tell his side of the story he's not going to move anywhere in the numbers and
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his numbers also aren't going to collapse because he is at one percent so um i i this doesn't change
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anything in the primary field other than i think trump becomes a little bit stronger but this is all
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by design this is the weaponization of the left and the uniparty against trump and what it is they're
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attempting to do is to cause chaos and also bankrupt us and there was just a story out in politico today
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about how several of the state parties are completely bankrupt the rnc is bankrupt they're attempting
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to bankrupt the trump campaign by you know forcing him to have to spend 40 million dollars plus in
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legal fees this is all the purpose and while this is going on instead of donors stepping up and
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investing in the party in our infrastructure and president trump they're spending 275 million dollars
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in a primary that is already over and none of that money is going to be spent to help the michigan
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gop the georgia gop the you know arizona gop these these clubs that need to get our get out the vote
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efforts starting now together and it's just it's upsetting but not that surprising
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but this is all kind of inextricably linked because the state parties uh what politico talked about
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the state parties that are most in question are ones that have had kind of the precinct strategy of the
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grassroots take over so the donors are going to sit there sit there and say okay tough guys you're
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going to take it over i'm not writing more checks the business community is walking away in the in
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these state parties the rnc's for different the rnc's for a different reason the rnc is where the
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small donors the the war and posse among others just said we saw that fiasco on that election
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we're not in and we're not writing any more checks they're still looking for something out there they
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could write those checks for so it's they're intricately linked but they're they're two different
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reasons this is happening the central point and this goes to pence i think pence and i want to ask you
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how's it going to play in iowa new hampshire and south carolina when pence is the lead witness for
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the prosecution mark short of the coax has been in his ear saying this is your path to the white
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house right all you gotta do you and mother just have to sit there and uh and and and sing sweet
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nothings to the evangelical crowd about how pure you are and how holy you are and how you read the bible
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every day and then just be a witness against trump and then trump is his tweet was uh you know no one
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that doesn't uphold the constitution could ever be president and judas pence is going to be uh the
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the star witness for the prosecution and it shouldn't be lost on people that mark short and
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the co-connection the coach has put 50 million dollars into the never trump stop trump movement
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the 278 that was raised ma'am yeah the only place i disagree with you is that mark short telling pence
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this is his path to the white house there's no path to the white house for mike pence what i do think
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is happening is mark short is telling him this is your path to get a board seat with boeing
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this is your path to get a board seat on name the university this is your path to get 300 000
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payouts to piece together from these different companies and then to get a contributorship with
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fox news or cnn so that is what actually this is this is a money-making scheme for pence to
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sort of lay out his his future endeavors so that he's set because he will never be elected to office
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again i would be shocked if mike pence is elected to his condo board association one day so there's not
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an electoral path for anyone here who's uh wrongfully standing up against president trump but we do need to
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figure out a way to help these parties and our our party is always been wrong in our structure we are
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top down what happens is they they solicit a bunch of big donors to the rnc and then these state parties
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sit around and wait for a transfer from the rnc to their state parties and that's how they they live
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and the rnc right now is having massive money raising problems for a trillion reasons that we've
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talked about on your show so these state parties are really squeezed for money as well and the democrats
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are so much better at funding their state and local groups and funding from the grassroots up and we fund
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a top-down strategy so what i'm having you know do is i saw this coming a while ago and i talked to
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kerry lake about it and kerry being the the leader and incredible person she had said contact all these
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state parties and let's go do fundraisers for them that's why kerry held the largest fundraiser in the
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georgia gop history she headlined we immediately read about the michigan problems christina caramo
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talked to her and so kerry's going to go headline the michigan gop event in september and she's going to
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keep doing that that's why you see her on the road constantly we are going to these state and local
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parties and say use kerry lake as a tool to get money into your club
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what should what should what has to happen in the next 72 hours trump gets a rain tomorrow
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and by the way i think we've worked it out we had the great coverage in miami and i think natalie
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winters we have natalie winters in the team uh at the courthouse we'll have live coverage all day
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long on war room of real america's voice uh caroline what has to happen in the next 72 hours
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to let the donor class know and to let the murdochs know and to let the coax know
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that this is because their whole move now behind the scenes is electability although trump's been
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winning all this polls they said well that can't happen particularly going to adjudicate the 2020
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election which is a loser uh this is the end of trump uh what tells tell the audience what moves are
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they trying to make right now and how can we thwart that i think that they are so terrified of
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trumping back in office that's why all this is happening so when you ask about the electability
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question look at the new york times poll that just came out that showed trump and biden it's
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dead time this is why they're in panic mode donald trump is going to be re-elected again he is going
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to be president again and that is why they're throwing four five six indictments at this man
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just in a in a panic attack so that's a something i've been telling to donors before is like if you
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want to know why i think that donald trump is the most electable look how panicked the left and even
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the establishment republicans are about his name being on a ballot again there is a reason why
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they're panicked about that he is going to win he is so great that he could just keep his head down
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this is noise to him this really is just noise i mean his he is so good about rising above all of
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this and you know i this indictment was ridiculous they're basically indicting him over political
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speech it will never stand it's going to go to the appeals court and then it'll make your way up to
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the supreme court which will kill it so we have to keep we should not get distracted by stuff like
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this president trump isn't getting distracted nor should we we have to win the general election we
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have to get the funds into these clubs and into these organizations that actually will do things
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on the ground to help and we should stop being distracted by a primary that's already over
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stop being distracted by the number of indictments we have to focus on how we help president trump win
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in november caroline can you hand with for a second i'm bringing brian castell because i want to take
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another angle of this brian you've been all over and there's breaking news all day long i want you
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to get up to speed because we haven't had a chance to have you on for a couple of days about the
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quite frankly i think one of the biggest financial scandals in the history of the country now the
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wall street journals reported that larry fink and uh in black rock are now under investigation
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because of the financing of the chinese communist party in the pla but the railhead of all this as bad
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the railroad of all this has been sequoia capital and sequoia capital has a proven track record of
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trying to pay off both i mean they're a thousand percent the biggest one of the biggest drivers of
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the democratic party but they have selectively gone out and and bought their way out of just thorough
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investigations by paying off members of the republican party walk us through the updates on the on the
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scandal that is sequoia capital yeah so it just came out that uh desantis is never back down pack and
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you guys reported on this night last night with laura um leone from sequoia put two million dollars
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into uh desantis's campaign so what you're seeing right now if you watch the flow of money from
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sequoia it's flowing into desantis it's trying to find its pro china candidate and desantis has taken some
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you know uh unusual positions in terms of backing down on the uh china tariffs and he's also taking
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money from their sequoia portfolio company with the citadel and ken griffin so sequoia fundles its
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money three ways directly three leone to the republican party from moritz to the democratic party
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then they have their portfolio company ceos and their silicon valley relationships that give and then
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they also have the limited investors in their funds who get and we don't know who the limited
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investors are in the funds so we do know one of them one of them was uh uh the fraud fbx spf guy
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had 200 million in sequoia's funds who is giving a bunch to the democratic party and as we know the
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election uh the election fraud allegations against against him just surprisingly got dropped so to get
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elected they need to get elected the dams or whoever's running against trump they need the china money
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and that kind of all flows through the the new vampire squid here which is sequoia
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walk me through on the vampire squid for the democrat side walk me through moritz the connections
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there and then i want to go back to this desantis pack again because people are people are oblivious to
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all this yeah the way we know the last election was interference it interfered with steve was you know
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there are a number of ways but one of the big things was putting the wrong information in the american
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people's hands related to the biden corruption must we forget right that sequoia owns 10 percent of
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tiktok tiktok's been 100 on 150 million phones in the u.s it hasn't been banned by biden and surprisingly
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we don't even really hear about tiktok being banned anymore in fact he's having influences in the white
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house and if you look at the money moritz just gave right he gave it to uh he's he's not giving it
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right he's giving it to uh uh pack that actually then go out and pay to disseminate information on
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social media so there was actually a scandal i think it was a year or two ago which was a group
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that moritz had given to before who was actually trying to pay lawyer influencers to release
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misinformation across tiktok and it was the same woman tara mcgowan who's an obama operative you
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know so so what we need to be very careful of here is the misinformation being pushed out against
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donald j trump right uh i i i personally think it's going to be newsome that comes in and it's not going
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to be biden that he's running against because we're starting to see the china money moritz and those guys
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well okay but i want i want to lay out i want to lay out the architect talks of this because i'm gonna get
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caroline back here in a second who's been screaming about this moritz with all the tens of millions and
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hundreds of millions of dollars they're taking and taking out of profits they're not funding them
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back in directly the democratic party they're putting it to arabella and other these kind of c3s and c4s
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that are really what we reported on a couple weeks ago have two billion dollars have raised two billion
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dollars in money and that is the 2024 campaign you can plug and play anybody it could be biden it could
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be newsom it could be michelle obama it could be pritzker you name it right but all this money is
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getting funneled into these c3s and c4s and other packs that are essentially setting up the
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infrastructure for victory at the same time we've got the guys that give the tip money to the republicans
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you see them trying to put it in these things that it's like ronda santus you know swept i think
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was 80 million dollars from his gubernatorial a couple of million dollars of that was uh was this
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this leon guy who's at uh who's at sequoria but talk to me about the c3s and c4s about they're
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putting money into these non-profits and how much moritz is generating for them yeah i mean so moritz
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has a non-profit uh with his wife in california called frank start right it's a four point it has
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4.3 billion in assets people can go look this up on pro publica if you look much of the asset and
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much of the return is he's moved his investments into sequoia's china funds over there so the returns
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from tiktok and dgi and sheen and all these companies will flow into this non-profit foundation
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crank start which is funding all sorts of democratic initiatives uh uh and in programs and in different
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states you know one of the things that's funding is the aclu you know who's used lawfare uh you know
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to end the doj china initiative at the end of the day steve there's trillions of dollars in china
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right now uh that the uniparty and elite want to get out uh and to do it they have to cover up
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crimes in the administration they have to do all sorts of stuff to get that money out to keep
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themselves into power why is the republicans control the house this is one of the biggest
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financial scandals this makes teapot dome look like uh somebody taking uh lunch money from a kid
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uh at his lemonade stand why is the republican party that controls house intelligence controls
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oversight controls judiciary controls all of these why is there been a suppression of any investigation
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about sequoia given that they're one of the major funders of the democratic party
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how does that work i mean i think it's the same reason that the only step up the russian folks
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and the russian collusion was you know many many of the people you have on the show right devon
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nunez cash colonel harvey colonel pappas right they don't want to take on the administrative state
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if you look lisa monaco's sitting in a full position to know all this stuff at the uh uh attorney
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general's office jake sullivan who runs the national security council and you know was working for
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hillary's campaign during the hoax uh you know he had kurt campbell on his team actually meet with
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sequoia right they know that sequoia tick tock its investments that tech donor money is there so that
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these guys are smart enough to leak enough money into the gop and compromise people in the gop and
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the uniparty like mccarthy uh and and different people and then they don't want to take it on because
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they're worried of the wrath of the doj lisa monaco and jake sullivan and the national security
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council i remember sullivan's lisa monaco when when you talk about when you talk about when you
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talk about all these investigations of trump the railhead of all those of jack smith and all this
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other stuff lisa monaco runs the deal at doj correct she's essentially the chief operating officer
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yeah you if you look at all the scandals you know across the last several years you see her those
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two names that come across everything lisa lisa monaco and jake sullivan at the national security
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council uh and neil shen you know sullivan was paid by neil shen and sequoia back in
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2017 when he was sitting on the bench at yale to go over and speak there so these guys know exactly
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who sequoia is and and what's going on and i don't know if you want to play it we have a
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uh a clip where senator sullivan you know uh revealed the open secret in washington
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yeah the dan let's go let's go and play dan sullivan of alaska let's play that clip
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you mentioned smart capital the more that i dig into this senior democrats in the biden administration
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senior republicans from the trump administration have all mentioned to me with alarm this issue of
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american financiers private equity big banks they mentioned sequoia capital all the time blackrock
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these are americans who've gotten super rich you know we're a capitalistic society but they
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knowingly are funding financing our competitor the pla ai they've funded the rise of china this is a
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concern i'm hearing about all the time can you talk about these firms others and what we should do to
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stop it china doesn't have this problem they don't have billionaire chinese funding us but we have
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this problem and i'm going to start naming names it's unpatriotic it's a real problem i'm hearing
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it from democrats and republicans can you unpack that a little bit more how damaging are these
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american companies to american interests senator i i do think that uh that that trend of of growing
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flows of capital and i think there's both dumb money and smart money but both of them are very used i
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wouldn't call smart money smart if it's maybe these guys are going to get rich but i don't think it's
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smart if it's funding our chief adversary globally i i think it's one of our most potent advantages
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that we are not actually how do we stop these american financiers from funding the communist party in
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china i think that uh congressional oversight of the treasury department hard oversight writing them
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hard to expand like i said by by orders of magnitude the blacklist of companies that americans are
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allowed to invest in in china is one i think we should be looking at a syphius like body for outbound
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investment so that we screen outbound american investment headed towards china to make sure that
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it's not damaging our uh our national interest and national security you've heard this uh preach the
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gospel of that what we need is uh criminal indictments and going after people is what you need
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brian costello uh how if we got the appropriate investigations going at house intel right now
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or at oversight right now uh you wouldn't have this problem why is that not happening brian costello
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i mean listen this is you know desantis goes to tape you know this isn't an open secret that
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sequoia's funding the chinese communist party and has been for years and desantis told you know chose
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to make that one of his top donors biden's consistently taking money from moritz pro-biden
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and democratic operations so we have the ability to subpoena right now if you notice sullivan uh
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mentioned blackrock gallagher and the committee just came out with an investigation into blackrock but
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for some reason the first company they mentioned sequoia there's no subpoena nobody's subpoenaing them
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and and i'll tell you steve lisa monaco and jake sullivan have the ability right now to stop
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neil shen sequoia and two trillion dollars in companies in china being created directly aligned
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against u.s initiatives and instead they're choosing to use their resources to knock out their political
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opponent donald trump and keep the china money still funded so congress knows that the doj has
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everything it needs to stop this but yet they're doing nothing
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brian how do people get to you where they go on social media because you're putting up great stuff
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on this every day uh twitter bp costello and and thank you to you and steve in the war room i think
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this is history will show us this is more important than people realize no no no no no this is people
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look our audience is on it we're gonna keep pounding yeah there i think we're a lot closer than people
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think of uh having a big break here so brian keep keep pounding thanks steve take care
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caroline one of the reasons i'm so upset about this kind of phony the people are elves is that
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there's nobody there's not a really a purpose to any of these campaigns except stop trump and
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that was personified the other day by the pathetic and i've got a picture i don't have it to memphis so
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maybe i'll show it tomorrow there's a photo in new hampshire before desantis got up and spoke
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about his economics talk there was like 30 people there i mean it was sad but it was his economic
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speech was so juvenile and so infantile it was just kind of like hanging 10 points nothing tied
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together he had such profound statements as i'm going to cut federal spending he had more profound
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statements that i'm going to stop uh china from having an abusive relationship with us i mean these
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were like it these were like these great pearls of wisdom he was dropping how does a guy like that
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end up taking that wants to present himself as a populace how does he end up taking uh this money
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from um from uh leon into you know swept up into his governance thing and then shifted over to his
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pack and his political report there's like five guys that control desantis so so how can he take money
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from people who are making money in china and then try to present to people he's going to be tough on china
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because i think that desantis is trying to run in this lane of i i think his instincts are probably
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right he's sort of a maga populist he's certainly been one as governor they he is consultants controlling
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him right now who are trying to force him into like a separate box thinking that there's some
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imaginary lane there when really i mean the country is a the republican party at least is a is a populist
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movement that's happening and it just doesn't make any sense because nobody wants a tribute ban when
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the real band is here they want donald trump is the you know the leader of this movement and so
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ron desantis instead should be a part of this movement not attempting to lead it but then kind
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of from a bizarre watered down place and so i just think that they're desperate for cash they're going
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to take it from anyone it was given into a super pack we don't know what relationship it is that
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desantis has with leon but i think it just shows like how much he has lost control of his own
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campaign his own message because the vintage ron desantis would rail about these things we talk
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about he'd be you know epiplectic about what blackrock is doing he goes on and on about how
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the esgs are terrible but that was governor ron desantis candidate for president ron desantis is
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is completely lost he gave three separate answers on the ukraine um issue like he's given just now
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they're having him give answers that aren't even in any specific detail it's just say you want to cut
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taxes and it's just sad it shows this man's career is being ruined and the life work he's been because
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some consultants are telling him to keep going and there's no end game here for ron desantis
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carrie lakes called for the primary for people to drop out and everybody to come together
00:24:14.960
number one do you agree with that and number two practically how would that work
00:24:20.040
yes i do agree that they should drop out now i don't think they should be forced to in any way
00:24:25.600
like they should make the decision to but um but i i i think what she called for technically was to
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suspend their campaigns during this time and show support for president trump in the middle of what
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is election interference by the opposing party and separately i do think that these candidates it is
00:24:41.620
time to drop out i mean they're pulling in the single digits there's no catching up with donald
00:24:45.100
trump we're wasting money we're wasting time when the real enemy is on the march the left the the
00:24:50.900
democrats are on the march right now they are raising millions and millions of dollars into 501 c3s
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to run their get out the vote efforts they have their candidate who's completely unopposed with
00:25:01.360
the exception of rfk who's actually making a good run at it but there's no way they even allow rfk to
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come anywhere you know near the candidacy and so we are just busy doing what i'm like what is the good
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that comes out of this primary at this point i don't know i don't think there is anything we need
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to start treating donald trump as the nominee because he is there's no catching him in the polls
00:25:20.240
right now and so these candidates should do the right thing for the party for the country
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and and step aside and recognize that they don't have a chance but they can help to elect donald trump
00:25:29.660
caroline how do people get to you on social media it's at caroline wren on twitter and getter and truth
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social okay uh caroline thanks thanks for taking time away to do this sure now we've got a situation
00:25:48.260
with a bioweapons lab that it looks like the chinese not only own but they probably constructed
00:25:56.200
in california at the same time you've got uh a a increasingly dangerous situation that's happening
00:26:04.020
every day in ukraine as people uh as instead of negotiate it's all about escalation so we're going
00:26:10.080
to get ben we get ben harnwell in rome and we got colonel john mills to break it down all for us
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okay uh ben hardwell let's start there i'm gonna get colonel mills in here people's heads are gonna blow
00:31:51.560
up in this on this uh bioweapon situation um ben the this the situation in ukraine continues to
00:32:01.060
deteriorate as the um as the uh spring offensive or the counter offensive what do you want to call it
00:32:07.340
it's more lethal right and now there's a metastasation there's metastasizing uh you've
00:32:13.560
got strikes of the ukrainians into into moscow now you've got the situation on belarus border you've
00:32:20.240
been warning about uh at the entire time every day i'm seeing some proclamation or something come
00:32:26.640
out from some different group talking about the 500 billion to one trillion dollar rebuilding of
00:32:31.740
ukraine that has to start immediately and oh by the way it's the obligation of the west this has to be
00:32:37.000
done for the betterment of the west make it make sense to us ben harnwell good afternoon steve well
00:32:45.940
you know i i don't know if i'll be able to attempt the impossible this evening but i'll at least try
00:32:50.500
and break it down for the war room posse uh there are two articles here i'm going to start off with
00:32:55.300
the memphis well let's start off with the first one here 1a which is the cnbc piece um for me steve
00:33:01.380
the the the news here is that these articles exist at all um six months ago three months ago
00:33:08.300
articles with headlines like this this is cnbc ukraine has tested its allies patience with its military
00:33:18.500
strategy and demands headlines that that would have been unthinkable three months ago um something is
00:33:27.140
moving um the reason i really wanted to talk about this is because it confirms the analysis that the
00:33:34.260
war room pushed out basically from vilnius which was the annual uh nato conference on was it and
00:33:41.200
right whilst vilnius was taking place we said steve that there's a pivot taking place now and it's a
00:33:48.280
pivot away from nato's hitherto policy of total escalation um there's a distance being put between
00:33:58.380
the the nato allies and and kiev this article here interesting that it's cnbc this isn't this
00:34:06.440
isn't the war room pushing these arguments now this isn't national pulse or human events it's not even
00:34:13.120
newsmax this is something dead heart in the sense of the mainstream media's um uh establishment and
00:34:21.800
therefore and in fact the articles about this one in the new york times what i'm going to call on next
00:34:26.540
there's that they really i think uh that they've been prompted from within the biden administration
00:34:34.000
itself because this is evidence this is this is the visible evidence of the invisible pivot that we
00:34:40.740
were talking about of slowly hanging president zelensky out to dry so just to give a a couple of
00:34:48.220
takeaways just from this article i will post this one on on get the articles i'm going to refer to
00:34:52.860
today i'm going to post them all on getter um talks about frustrations coming to a head talks about
00:35:00.580
ukraine's ongoing needs and demands it talks about uncomfortable encounters um these are these are this
00:35:08.840
is mood music that that we haven't been privy to for for the for the last 17 months of this campaign
00:35:15.660
for me the the the key uh takeaway here because it indicates that this is is actually sourced
00:35:22.440
from um it explicitly says it's sourced really from within the administration it says for some
00:35:27.160
officials in washington and london zelensky's decision to tell his staunch backers that ukraine
00:35:33.600
deserved respect as nato met to discuss additional support for kiev was a step too far and there were
00:35:41.560
further quotes here one one descriptive phrase there's a source with knowledge of the matter who
00:35:46.520
asked to remain anonymous due to the sensitivity of the situation told cnbc that's not it's not the
00:35:52.980
usual disclaimer source speaking uh but but asked to remain um um um unsighted because they're not
00:36:00.640
authorized to speak on the record now this is this isn't that disclaimer this disclaimer is that the
00:36:05.340
the the subject matter is too sensitive here's here's the key the key quote then steve so the u.s
00:36:11.620
is strongly advising ukraine not to do certain things but kiev does them anyway brushing aside or not
00:36:18.360
addressing u.s concerns and they come at the united states or washington or the biden administration
00:36:24.560
complaining about not being involved in nato talks so this is really the the not only the the the
00:36:31.880
public washing of dirty laundry it's indicative that there's something going on deep now within
00:36:38.720
this relationship uh with ukraine now i'm going to call quickly on on the um on the new york times
00:36:45.260
article here headline this is this is article 1b excellent memphis thank you ukrainian troops trained
00:36:52.560
by the west stumble in battle again this is a marked difference in tone from the propaganda that
00:37:00.660
we've been uh fed right throughout the the talks um of the counter-offensive and what have you
00:37:08.080
and the whole tenor of this article is basically that the troops the west has promised they've been
00:37:14.040
trained up for four weeks basically six weeks at most sent into battle and they are woefully
00:37:19.780
uh under trained for the task at hand of fighting russia's experienced troops um and that's the
00:37:27.920
tenor's article it's saying that the the counter-offensive is going nowhere it's really
00:37:32.040
proof of what professor mishima was saying right back at the beginning that we're going to be
00:37:36.940
fighting russia down to the last ukrainian um again this is the new york times this isn't this isn't
00:37:43.400
uh an economic nationalist organ the fact that this article is taking place tall it's taking place i i would
00:37:50.840
suggest with the consent of the biden administration why because there is a pivot in place so what is this pivot
00:37:57.060
it's a pivot away from destruction towards reconstruction and now i'm going to call steve
00:38:03.960
on um if memphis would be so kind to this article in in the hill uh excuse me the hill um the west's
00:38:12.000
self-interest includes rebuilding ukraine well of course our self-interest doesn't involve us
00:38:19.220
impoverishing ourselves for the sake of a country with which we're not even um an ally there are two
00:38:25.640
sentences here however that i will read because it very much um is consonant with something that
00:38:32.560
again we've been saying in the war and pointing out in the war right from day one here's the first
00:38:37.380
extract donor countries led by the u.s have already given ukraine at least 180 billion dollars in
00:38:45.000
military financial and humanitarian aid and i'm going to go straight up to the very opening words of the
00:38:50.000
article um because i think that there's a nice symmetry between these two sentences the rebuilding
00:38:55.920
of a shattered ukraine will be a monumental task a joint assessment led by the world bank estimates the
00:39:03.260
cost at 411 billion over 10 years obviously the as you said in your introduction we're talking at least
00:39:09.440
a trillion here but oh here's what they're talking about now see they're already talking about committing
00:39:15.820
twice the amount of money that is being spent thus far on the destruction on the reconstruction and as
00:39:22.660
on the war room we'd said and i'll close with this as we said right back at the beginning these
00:39:27.020
sociopaths who are pushing this they actually want the reason why they're they're forcing
00:39:33.180
ukraine to pursue an unwinable wars they want to see the country leveled why well they may be
00:39:40.080
sociopaths but they're not irrational because the mother of all grifts will take place when it
00:39:45.700
comes to the reconstruction and this is what's being lined up and we can see the the moves taking
00:39:50.700
place tectonic shifts taking place slowly but they are taking place when we look at the the early two
00:39:56.700
articles from the new york times and cnbc and then this article in the hill and you know you can see
00:40:02.360
how the propaganda is moving slowly away now there is a final article which i will quickly call up on
00:40:09.780
because i think it's it's ridiculous but it does illustrate the state that we're in here this is an
00:40:14.600
article this is the breitbart article article article number three with the headline zelensky
00:40:19.480
predicts putin will die before winning against ukraine you know i would i would normally in in my
00:40:25.740
hit concentrate on that but i'm actually going to push that aside really behind that statement
00:40:31.320
zelensky is actually saying that um he's talking about this being a war of attrition that it's going
00:40:37.040
to outlast putin that that's fundamentally what he's saying he says it's not gonna put it it's not
00:40:41.880
going to last for 30 years but it might last for 10 years this war of attrition by which stage putin
00:40:46.720
will be gone now of course from what i just said previous to this this is not a war it might have
00:40:53.080
been a war of attrition it might have been planned by the strategists in the pentagon as a war of
00:40:58.220
attrition 10 years ago now it's not a war of attrition now now sort of movements are moving away
00:41:03.460
from president zelensky president zelensky's authentic genuine friends need to put him to
00:41:09.740
one side and tell him that the the grains of sand are falling now through the hourglass if he wants
00:41:16.160
to move in ukraine's best interest he needs to do this from a position of what strength he has
00:41:22.120
at the negotiating table uh as he lectured us at davos uh earlier in the year that uh people that uh
00:41:33.180
that uh you know criticize the the support of uh ukraine had not read the memoirs of world war ii of
00:41:39.960
which i'd opined at the time i had forgotten more about the memoirs of world war ii that i've read
00:41:46.060
than he's ever read and that he should focus on halberstam's book the best and the brightest
00:41:51.240
on the chapter on president diem of south vietnam when the united states was finished with him uh
00:41:58.500
they really when they kicked him to the curb uh they allowed the the vietnamese uh coup of members
00:42:04.920
to put him his wife and his brother up against the wall and shoot him or i guess in this case
00:42:09.040
technically shoot him in the back of a a uh a truck in the way of the airport or on the tarmac um i think
00:42:15.900
zelensky ought to really focus on president diem when the west and the security services are finished
00:42:20.800
with you they're really finished with you and you can tell that you're wearing out you're welcome
00:42:24.920
with the administrative and deep state ben amazing uh amazing and you've come up with another
00:42:31.440
a great hook the mother of all grifts which you talked about in the very first time we got you on
00:42:37.420
about the ukraine what almost a year and a half ago or a year and two-thirds ago ben we got to bounce
00:42:43.060
how do people get to all your content thank you for staying up with us and catching us up to speed
00:42:47.380
on everything how do people get to you well steve you know nothing is going to get my cynical bdi's
00:42:54.060
glittering serpent like in the moonlight more than talking about the reconstruction of ukraine folks
00:43:00.220
if you want to catch up with me do come to get it's the best social media platform in the world
00:43:05.460
there um you just need to tab in my surname harnwell at harnwell um and i'll look forward to
00:43:11.480
catching by reading i've read it since i've been on this platform for two years i have read every single
00:43:15.560
comment that's ever been posted on my profile so um i look forward to the feedback so get it get on
00:43:20.660
there and give and give comments and by the way we didn't even get time for my favorite article for
00:43:25.440
ben today which is about belarus repositioning troops on the polish border and now nato's all up in
00:43:31.400
arms i'm sure there's no wagner i'm sure there's no wagner special forces guys associated with that at
00:43:36.460
all it's ben harnwell another called shot by brother harnwell getting pretty good on this military
00:43:41.020
stuff this geopolitical stuff is working out for you well ben ben thank you so much i
00:43:45.440
appreciate appreciate you staying up with us thank you so much steve god bless from rome uh if i had
00:43:51.580
time i'd ask colonel mills about the ukraine situation but i really want to focus this ties
00:43:55.860
back to the to the sequoia capital of it all and this is so colonel mills just give me your assessment
00:44:02.060
people appreciate your technical knowledge you and i've been going back and forth the last couple
00:44:06.760
days you're quite concerned about this bioweapons lab in in california particularly the chinese
00:44:12.460
ownership the opaqueness of who actually ran it what's actually going on there you're saying this
00:44:18.260
is a ticking time bomb tell our audience what you mean by that well this whole uh event uh steve and
00:44:24.920
thank you uh is i what i call advanced force operations and i've used that term several times
00:44:31.720
uh and the alarming thing is the dod documents on the joint staff library that describe advanced
00:44:38.360
force operations have now are no longer public facing 3.0 and 3.05 on the joint staff uh doctrine
00:44:46.200
that was public facing why is it no longer public facing because we know the chinese read it i mean
00:44:51.200
they read everything and that describes what advanced force operation on all actions in preparation for
00:44:57.340
conflict all actions in preparation for conflict and this this readly lab uh just screams uh advanced
00:45:05.120
force operations now is it any coincidence that uh less than 50 minutes away is 100 of our west coast
00:45:14.000
navy uh fighter attack squadrons yeah that's over 200 of our f-18s and a growing number of f-35s uh in
00:45:22.340
one place which we need to uh uh set up before harden disperse and deceive uh as a deterrent measure and we got
00:45:30.020
all of our aircraft in one place right next to this bio lab and we we have a standing contingency plan
00:45:36.360
con plan to respond to domestic events uh wmd events i'm seeing no evidence i can't i can't give the plan
00:45:44.200
name or number or anything like that it'd not be appropriate not allowed but uh it's a it's a very
00:45:49.340
mature con plan and i'm seeing no evidence it has been implemented or exercised i'm going what is going
00:45:55.500
on here uh there's a very little recording colonel hang on i want to set the predicate first
00:46:02.080
because you're a guy that that dealt with this for years are are you saying that it looks like um
00:46:09.000
it looks like it's something from a third world nation it doesn't look terribly organized um are
00:46:14.760
you saying you actually believe that instead of just being some um off the books type of lab uh and
00:46:21.240
we know the california health authorities were on this for a while but we're just getting stiff
00:46:24.700
armed and couldn't get any answers are you making the point that from the profile you've seen
00:46:30.340
regardless of what the ownership is or proven the ownership is that this looks like it's some sort
00:46:35.940
of bioweapons capability or potential capability so therefore dod and the federal government are have
00:46:42.160
to kick into another mode about getting all over top of this and not just the control of it but the
00:46:47.800
taking a part of it because it's it's it falls under the doctrine of advanced force operations
00:46:52.980
yeah absolutely i'm just baffled maybe they're doing it and keeping it really quiet i don't
00:46:59.640
think so i i think because of wokeism and other factors uh you know i'm just thinking of what's
00:47:04.760
going on in the national military command center right now where i've had to do a lot of duty over
00:47:08.740
the years and uh has anybody bothered to call the duty general or admiral and to report this and spit
00:47:14.440
up the interagency process i mean this is just a just the cancer and toxic nature of wokeism has
00:47:21.100
destroyed strategic clarity of thought here is anybody anybody awake is anybody watching what's
00:47:27.440
going on here and i'm i'm concerned i'm seeing no evidence uh it would be tangible uh if that that con
00:47:33.940
plan had been triggered uh and i'm not seeing any evidence of that right now and again what a
00:47:39.020
coincidence 200 plus of our that is the singular base for all of our west coast fighter squadrons
00:47:45.980
for the navy and you know what in the world i mean that's the that's the rough riders the flying eagles
00:47:51.920
carl when you when when you when when you were at the national command military command center just
00:47:58.920
give me the three to five things actions you would want to see that you could tell from outside in the
00:48:03.900
public that actually were being done to give you a level of comfort that something's actually being done
00:48:09.140
here well the duty general or admiral in the in the basement uh in the new national military command
00:48:17.540
center that is the literally the singular entry point for all actions to the department of defense
00:48:23.280
it doesn't go to the secretary of defense it goes to the mcc and there's a whole very mature very well
00:48:29.460
exercised protocol of notification and you literally pick up a phone it's like the old days we don't even
00:48:35.280
know how to do this anymore set up these phone lines but you set you pick up a phone bam you have
00:48:39.680
all departments and agencies on the line immediately including the white house situation room and you
00:48:45.060
gotta you do that immediately an alert comes in you pick up the phone all 18 cabinet agencies uh white
00:48:52.460
house situation room and one of the first things you gotta do is appoint a lead federal official a lead
00:48:57.920
federal official everybody falls in line behind them here and i'm just not seeing any evidence of this
00:49:04.160
uh i mean i'm this we should be bouncing off the walls on this i mean until they've proven otherwise
00:49:09.200
the prudent uh and wise thing to do is is implement implement the standing con plan on this and then
00:49:16.180
and okay and we prove it or disprove it not seeing this colonel colonel we got to bounce i want everybody
00:49:23.300
to get to your social media covering this more because at least from the outside given what they found
00:49:28.840
the inside with the herpes and the covid and the 900 or 1000 dead mice or rats or whatever they had
00:49:34.880
i guess it was mice it's it's quite disturbing what went on there and it doesn't seem like there's any
00:49:39.880
coordinated effort to get to the bottom of it or to control it uh colonel what's what's your social
00:49:45.020
media how do they get to your books how they get to everything that you're all your content
00:49:48.320
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colonel mills thank you we look forward to getting an update from you in the next day or two on the
00:50:20.460
situation in california and get your thoughts on ukraine fantastic job okay uh we're going to end
00:50:26.300
today with the battle hymn of the republic it was a uh a reprise of a song that we've played before but
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donald trump in washington dc if that goes according to plan uh natalie winters i will be there on the
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scene and we'll be covering throughout the day but we've got so much other stories that we haven't
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had time to get to because of what uh the deep state and administrative state is trying to do to
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tomorrow morning when we return in the warm at 10 a.m we'll see you then
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