Bannon's War Room - May 09, 2024


WarRoom Battleground EP 531: The Spending Of Trillions As America Burns


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

181.32875

Word Count

9,891

Sentence Count

27

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

The economy is by far the most important issue for voters, and polls show that voters trust Donald Trump on the economy more than they trust Mitt Romney on it. But what does that mean for the economy, and why does it matter so much to voters?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 this is what you're fighting for I mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
00:00:11.360 people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the authoritarians
00:00:19.120 get total control and total power because this is just like in Arizona this is just like in Georgia
00:00:24.840 it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations
00:00:29.960 this is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the fight
00:00:33.740 all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your host
00:00:40.860 stephen k bannon when you talk about the economy of course it is by far the most important issue
00:00:46.880 for voters it's also true right now mr president that voters by a wide margin trust trump more on
00:00:53.260 the economy they say that in polls and part of the reason for that may be the numbers and and and
00:00:58.820 you're aware of many of these of course the cost of buying a home in the united states is double
00:01:03.020 what it was when you look at your monthly costs from before the pandemic real income when you account
00:01:08.540 for inflation is actually down since you took office economic growth last week far short of
00:01:14.100 expectations consumer confidence maybe no surprise is near a two-year low with less than six months to go
00:01:22.180 to election day are you worried that you're running out of time to turn that around we've already turned
00:01:28.140 around look you look at the michigan survey for 65 percent of american people think they're in good
00:01:33.540 shape economically they think the nation's not in good shape but they're personally in good shape
00:01:37.880 the polling data has been wrong all along you know how many you guys do a poll with cnn
00:01:43.820 how many folks you have to call to get one response the idea that we're in a situation where
00:01:50.100 things are so bad the folks i mean we've created more jobs we've made we're in a situation where
00:01:57.000 people have access to good paying jobs and the last i saw the combination of the inflation
00:02:04.720 the cost of inflation all those things that's really worrisome to people with good reason that's why i'm
00:02:10.620 working very hard to bring the cost of rentals down to increase the number of homes that are available
00:02:15.960 but let me say it this way when i started this administration people were saying there's going
00:02:23.560 to be a collapse of the economy we have the strongest economy in the world let me say it again in the world
00:02:30.240 biden last night touting his economic record and the strength of the u.s economy despite polls
00:02:37.000 that show that voters trust donald trump on the economy more than they trust biden
00:02:42.000 let's bring in the co-anchor of cnbc's squawk box andrew ross sorkin he's also a columnist for the
00:02:48.620 new york times andrew what do you make of the president's message and the persistent push that
00:02:53.820 for some reason donald trump is better on the economy can we think back to four years ago please
00:02:59.080 look he's he's 100 right that we all have the best economy uh in the world there there is no
00:03:05.540 question about that and 15 million jobs were created uh during his presidency the context of
00:03:11.860 course as we were coming off of covid so i'm sure that there will be uh critics uh that will will
00:03:17.620 suggest that that those numbers are different but i think the biggest issue and the reason why there's
00:03:22.900 this feeling but i think you're seeing the feeling changed because the trend lines on inflation are going
00:03:27.420 all in the right direction for the most part for the most part is this idea of cumulative inflation
00:03:32.960 versus wages and just the the cost of of goods and we've talked about this on the air so many times
00:03:40.080 people are looking at you know the price of gas they go to the supermarket and they get sticker
00:03:44.540 shock i think that sticker shock is starting to roll off and you're going to start to see some of
00:03:49.940 that in the polls but i think to the extent that the polls are reflecting that what's reflecting still
00:03:55.520 is the sticker shock inflation issue i seek recognition to give notice of my intent to raise
00:04:01.340 a question of the privileges of the house the form of the resolution is as follows declaring the office
00:04:09.300 of speaker of the house representatives to be vacant
00:04:12.760 this is the uniparty for the american people watching
00:04:22.500 gentlelady will suspend
00:04:25.160 it's thursday 9 may year of our lord 2024 thank you uh so much for joining us here in the six o'clock
00:04:32.760 hour the second hour late afternoon early evening there you're seeing the desperate spin the biden
00:04:40.120 numbers on the economy uh the people hate what he's done to the economy they don't even use the term
00:04:45.260 bidenomics anymore uh it it irks people so they've dropped that that whole big selling point of bidenomics
00:04:52.480 uh the polling is strongly with president trump on all aspects of the economy you can't get around that
00:04:58.580 the lived experience of the american people is terrible the elites have made out you just saw
00:05:03.040 the uniparty right there booing marjorie taylor green as she tries to bring some order into the
00:05:08.480 republican side and gets to somebody stand up anybody stand up and try to stop this uh massive fiscal
00:05:15.280 mismanagement this humongous just out of control massive keynesian stimulus even the oracle of
00:05:24.380 omaha warren buffett said this weekend he said hey the uh this model we have this business model we
00:05:30.740 have uh in the united states is unsustainable it's not unsustainable about energy it is unsustainable
00:05:38.020 because of the way it's financed and this is going to have to stop and he said hey the uniparty
00:05:43.900 has no ability to stop the spending so what the only way to get around this is you're going to see
00:05:49.640 massive and this was his words massive tax increases on the middle class
00:05:54.160 that is uh that is all all coming uh richard stern joins us from heritage an article up on
00:06:01.740 politico and you have to explain it to people um 1.6 trillion dollars they've they've got this bill
00:06:08.580 they passed a couple years ago they can't even figure about how to spend the money so instead of
00:06:13.100 rescind it and cut it off they're now in some sort of uh panic about how they're going to get it out
00:06:18.240 richard this this is the central question of time i think this is actually bigger than the invasion on
00:06:22.860 the southern border i think it's bigger than the other third crisis the beginning of the kinetic
00:06:26.840 part of the third world war because if we don't get this right this is republic ending and as you
00:06:31.900 can tell yesterday in the house nobody or very few people have the guts to stand up and say this too
00:06:38.580 must end your thoughts sir well this is as the old adage goes going out with a whimper and not a bane
00:06:44.260 you know so i think you hit the nail on the head there which is that what this is about is the slow
00:06:49.580 bleeding dry of the american public over decades of the uniparty quietly and slowly sapping your value
00:06:56.960 like pouring water into the wine of your life savings by simply printing money at the fed
00:07:01.980 by using it to take all of the value out of your savings and transfer it to the government you know
00:07:08.060 the monologues we just watched there they were trying to find every word they possibly could to
00:07:12.760 say you know americans are shocked at how expensive stuff is yeah that's the whole point that's why the
00:07:18.460 economy is so bad because the government steals all of that value of your paycheck makes it impossible
00:07:24.220 for you to afford a good home in a safe neighborhood and to put food on the table and then they're shocked
00:07:30.520 that people hate the uniparty and hate the government about it i mean what is there to be shocked about
00:07:35.360 but this is what they do this is how they've been doing it and you're absolutely right there isn't yet
00:07:40.200 the guts in dc enough to just leave with people the money that they worked hard to earn until we get
00:07:46.240 there we're going to need to keep fighting richard i'm going to get into the budget a minute and what
00:07:51.740 we're into this budget year and i'm hearing already about top line numbers that are going to shock this
00:07:55.780 audience of really no no no no real change in direction but i want to go back to andrew ross sorkin
00:08:01.920 and this kind of mantra you see on msnbc you see on cnbc you're seeing it on cnn our economy is the
00:08:10.140 strongest in the world the economy we just came off a quarter of 1.6 i mean how can he say it's
00:08:16.680 the strongest in the world how can they allow biden to say it's the strongest world without being
00:08:20.680 challenged we just had a quarter and correct me if i'm wrong that had 1.6 growth in gdp but we added
00:08:29.540 i think 800 billion dollars in debt so basically 800 billion dollars in debt we bought 300 billion
00:08:35.860 dollars or so in growth that's so anemic i mean we're in stagflation and it looks like we're going
00:08:41.220 to go through the lost decades of what the japanese did why does his statement that we have the
00:08:47.340 strongest economy in the world go unchallenged because they've got control over the media over
00:08:53.540 congress they've got control over the universities i mean what's been happening recently hamas has taken
00:08:59.280 over most of the universities in this country that's the work of this left-wing unit party we're talking
00:09:05.040 about here but you know i think the important part and i think you make the right point there
00:09:09.500 that what we've been seeing recently is anemic but you know when they say oh the u.s is the wealthiest
00:09:14.900 most advanced country blah blah blah what are they really talking about they're talking about a 200
00:09:20.200 year plus foundation set by the founders of this country produced worked on built on by good moral
00:09:26.880 people in the united states the people that cherish the founders values that represent the way that we do
00:09:32.040 business in america they built a country that is beyond impressive because they were devoted to
00:09:37.680 those traditional values to god's law to a moral society so what they have been doing is bleeding dry
00:09:44.460 like a parasite off of the inertia of what the founders did and the first 200 or so years of our
00:09:50.800 nation's history so is it still a very strong country of course it is but the last 40 60 years have
00:09:57.940 been the left slowly eating away at our institutions our values and the fabric of our economy to the
00:10:03.780 point where i think you're right we're on the precipice of lost decades the way the japanese went through
00:10:08.620 the way the greeks have gone through and it's all a result of this unit party slowly stealing us
00:10:13.740 strangling our ability to do things you know warren buffett is no friend of trump and no fan of maga
00:10:20.740 but uh and i think this was the first time they had the annual gathering in omaha for uh berkshire
00:10:27.300 hathaway uh without charlie munger but he had some things to say about the economy it's the first time
00:10:33.340 i've heard him come out and actually talk about the unsustainability of the business model and the
00:10:37.960 increases in debt and he was pretty blunt uh he he charged the and remember this guy's a democrat he
00:10:44.080 charged the uniparty on capitol hill with being and he didn't sing a republicans or democrats the
00:10:49.500 uniparty for being not having the political will to basically cut spending the way you need to cut
00:10:55.400 it to get on some sort of sustainable path we didn't have these massive annual deficits and he
00:11:00.040 gave a warning shot because the people who invest in berkshire hathaway obviously invest in other
00:11:05.180 opportunities he told him he says hey the only way out of here because you can't sustain this the
00:11:09.960 only way out is that you have to have you're going to have to have massive tax increases and he
00:11:15.140 essentially said massive tax increases on the middle class uh your thoughts about warren buffett
00:11:20.740 in his uh in his look at the future well to be fair he's spent decades pushing for tax increases
00:11:27.160 on the middle class you know i think what we're seeing now which is interesting i agree with you
00:11:30.840 that it's it's bizarre it's a canary in the mine shaft that even he is starting to pull back the
00:11:36.620 curtain on this machine of the fed printing dollars that are not representative of real productive
00:11:42.500 capacity that merely add inflation to the economy and try to boil the frog in the pot but you know
00:11:48.420 what's happening though is he and other people like him who have pushed for that spending who
00:11:53.100 have frankly made investments backed on where that government spending goes where the fed prints new
00:11:58.900 money to send your purchasing power to he's made investments and profits on that he and and the group
00:12:04.940 of people like him have been doing that for decades driving the spending the whole time through saying
00:12:10.040 hey why don't we tax and it's never really a tax on him it's a tax on small business owners it's a tax
00:12:16.520 on mid-sized businesses their taxes that would mean that poor americans that middle-income americans
00:12:22.180 can't get new job opportunities can't see rising wages so he's been pushing for that for decades he has
00:12:28.920 been part of this problem and now of course what you're seeing is this breaking apart this
00:12:33.720 fractionalization of the uh the uniparty where their own people like him are starting to recognize that
00:12:39.300 the ship is about to sink are trying to grab the first lifeboats and say i didn't do that
00:12:43.920 i haven't been pushing that for decades listen to me i'll tell you how to bail it out and of course
00:12:48.580 the bailing out is always more taxes so you know what i mean i think this is the racket that we've been
00:12:54.300 seeing so while i'm glad that he's starting to highlight what's going on i would have appreciated
00:12:58.640 him not having spent the last few decades creating this problem in the in the get-go
00:13:02.860 talk about a problem that's come over decades uh i'm hearing i didn't want to know because
00:13:08.360 you're inside baseball on this they're working through now the top line numbers for the budget
00:13:14.860 that we have to have done the appropriations we have to have done by 30 september mtg in the morning
00:13:19.640 show said hey let me tell you because of the and i thought she got tremendous support yesterday but
00:13:26.280 she said by not outing johnson we are basically going to go into a situation you're going to have
00:13:32.180 to have another cr on september 30th one your thoughts on that but two i'm not hearing massive
00:13:38.340 budget cuts that even the republicans are putting forward i'm hearing 60 billion to 100 billion dollars
00:13:42.940 somewhere around that where biden put up 7.3 trillion dollar proposed budget i'm hearing that
00:13:51.280 this thing could come in at seven trillion dollars or north uh any thoughts on this well i think it's
00:13:56.140 definitely going to be and i think she's probably right about that but you know this is again this
00:14:00.320 is the ruse they run here where they tried to do a shell game but it's all the same members of congress
00:14:05.260 who push for the spending who want the earmarks for their district they go home and say hey i know
00:14:10.080 inflation's bad but i got you this grant i got you this thing for you my donor you know my specific
00:14:17.280 special interest so they're going to keep right on doing that and you know i i think that's exactly
00:14:22.140 what's going on here which is the the pennies the republicans in congress talk about cutting
00:14:26.660 pales in comparison to the trillions of dollars of biden's asking for that the left that the
00:14:32.560 democrats just sailed through that 1.6 trillion you were talking about the in the monologue and you
00:14:37.860 know as you were pointing out before they can't even figure out how to spend this money as fast
00:14:41.740 so think of it this way you've got conservatives with air quotes you're pretending to be who say
00:14:47.760 well i'm going to cut a dollar here or a dollar there while biden is out there trying to figure
00:14:52.240 out how to divvy up a 1.6 trillion dollar you know boondoggle to his donors and his friends this is why
00:14:59.520 we're bankrupt until we get real conservatives in congress we're going to keep at this kind of shell
00:15:04.620 game uh walk me through uh president trump we win in november he takes over and we get through
00:15:12.180 mark elias and jamie raskin trying to thwart him from taking office we get there on uh january 20th
00:15:18.800 um talk to me with the tax cuts going away the trump tax cuts another seven trillion dollars
00:15:27.860 republicans will agree to in some sort of cr in the our omnibus bill in the in the lame duck
00:15:33.720 um how's president trump how are we going to make the case that we've got to also have these the tax
00:15:40.880 cuts got to go back in because the democrats are immediately going to flip and go oh my god these
00:15:44.780 deficits are so huge uh even the tax cuts at least in the first couple of years may add to that before
00:15:50.560 they kick in like they did last time to be actually very net positive but you got to take a little bit
00:15:55.180 of uh there's a little bit of gap there walk me through how that's going to happen because everybody's
00:15:59.840 very focused on the trump tax cuts i've been telling people you're you're embedding a situation
00:16:05.020 that we're not going to be able to get to it because of where we're going to be financially sir
00:16:10.080 well and that's what they're trying to do actually right they want to try to kill this as much as
00:16:13.740 possible and give that money to their friends so i think the simple way that i'd say this to people is
00:16:18.600 whether it's deficits or tax increases that's the way the government steals from you and so at some
00:16:25.640 level it doesn't really matter if the government steals from you for there are more deficits or by
00:16:31.340 raising taxes or keeping taxes high and in fact an enormous amount of both fall ultimately on those
00:16:37.760 small and mid-sized businesses that employ most people that drive new innovative technology so for
00:16:43.160 the democrats to say oh my god you know if we cut taxes again for most americans or for small businesses
00:16:48.800 the debt will be bigger sure but it means we're cutting taxes the problem with the left is
00:16:54.140 they raise the deficit or raise taxes or both to fund more government spending i.e. more government
00:17:01.840 control and intrusion into our lives you know the quiet socialism of the government just simply owning
00:17:08.300 everything in the country so that's why it's still important to do the tax cuts because you're right even
00:17:14.320 if there's a little bit of a delayed impact it frees the economy it counters the socialism and gives
00:17:20.140 people back the money they earn the control over their businesses the control over their futures
00:17:24.640 and so that's why it's good to cut the taxes actually independent of the deficit impact because
00:17:30.100 ultimately deficits and taxes are just two different sides of the same coin of the government stealing
00:17:35.920 from you it's unbelievable uh richard where can everybody go to get your analysis over at heritage
00:17:41.400 and to follow you guys are putting up updates you're you're very active on social media
00:17:45.500 where do folks go i appreciate you can find me at rich a stern on twitter and of course you can find
00:17:51.580 the the stuff i write on heritage.org as well along with that of all my colleagues and everything we're
00:17:56.140 doing to try to fight this good fight and as always thanks for having me on to highlight these sites
00:18:00.260 thanks richard it's another long tough fight um i keep telling people you got to look at the you got
00:18:06.820 to look at president trump right now it's one year we got to look at it in a one year component
00:18:10.580 breaking down to three pieces one piece is between now and november and we're going to have a ton of
00:18:15.740 speed bumps as you saw in the five o'clock hour with the stormy dangerous situation all of their
00:18:20.980 lawfare falling apart but trust me they have not given up on that you got mark elias after we win
00:18:25.760 with massive turnout in november you got mark elias and those demons have set all these traps
00:18:31.300 that somehow they're going to try to reverse this thing and try to not allow president trump to close
00:18:37.260 on the victory just like they didn't close in the victory in 2020 you watch it's all coming
00:18:41.460 then once we get it then you know jamie were asking still particularly if they take the house even with
00:18:46.640 one vote they're going to try to sit there and not see him because he's an insurrectionist all of that
00:18:51.980 is coming you can see that very clearly what they're doing after we blow through all that and actually get
00:18:58.000 to the inauguration day the first hundred days which would basically end around this time the first
00:19:03.000 hundred days of president trump's uh second term is going to be a firefight and remember his tax cuts
00:19:11.380 go away right then he's going to be in a massive fiscal crisis an economic crisis an invasion on the
00:19:18.520 southern border crisis we got to seal the border and then start the mass deportations and you've got
00:19:23.680 the kinetic part of the third world war from ukraine uh to to the to israel to the red sea to the south
00:19:30.900 china see all of those coming together and one thing and at the time he's got to then make the case
00:19:36.640 to put these tax cuts back in and the tax you just do the math at least even in i think the first or
00:19:41.840 second year there's a little bit increase to the deficit of my math if i remember my math correctly
00:19:46.780 this is we're all building up this fight that's why this budget right here should be one where you
00:19:53.460 start you start down low a 400 a four to 500 billion dollar cut right out of the box you can do it
00:19:58.680 we can go back to the pre-pandemic days which i think in president trump's last budget i think
00:20:04.600 was five trillion dollars just over five trillion dollars right there you cut a trillion and a half
00:20:07.960 dollars off by just going back to the pre-pandemic and we had plenty of government then they're going
00:20:12.620 to argue oh you don't have the military you don't have the military increases well we have to be
00:20:17.580 convinced these military increases are smart we have to be convinced that we're not uh looking the
00:20:22.880 other way on on economic warfare on using our capital markets and using cutoff to technology which
00:20:28.560 people are not we're not playing smash mouth we're not playing hardball one thing about these
00:20:34.620 taxes and look that if you think that fight for the trump tax cut originally was tough and it was
00:20:41.100 very tough and took a long time it took us the entire first year wasn't approved i think to right
00:20:45.060 before christmas uh this is nothing like what the second to to reinstall those tax cuts after they go away
00:20:52.160 is going to be an absolutely brutal fight this is why one of the because we only take sponsors that
00:20:57.740 really tie in to our our content tax network usa this is what you keep saying go to tnusa.com
00:21:05.740 slash bannon but go there today figure talk about these tax experts particularly if you haven't filed
00:21:12.160 or if you've gotten a letter from the irs it's all a process you just have to engage in the process you
00:21:18.040 have to engage with the folks from tax network usa don't do just put the letter in the drawer you can't
00:21:24.360 do that that's not going to work and here's why they hire 10 000 new irs agents for one reason to
00:21:31.040 come after the middle class and working class people they're not going to go after the wealthy
00:21:35.180 the wealthy have battalions of uh tax lawyers tax accountants i mean people that just specialize not
00:21:41.800 just lawyers people specialize in tax laws not just accountants and auditors but people that specialize
00:21:47.560 in the tax aspects of that so they're coming after you and they've got to get blood from the stone
00:21:53.280 it's just it's obvious it's obvious what they're going to try to do to pay for this apparatus they
00:21:58.960 want you to pay for it we had uh we had uh brody mullins on today earlier from the wall street journal
00:22:05.380 talking about the wolves of k street they're not coming after the wolves of k street because that's
00:22:10.060 dialed into the system they feel that you're just a support function for the system and it's a support
00:22:15.880 function what you're supposed to do is pay and pay up and so they're going to be all over that tax
00:22:20.580 network usa go check it out today other the other thing i'm gonna try to get records on tomorrow it's
00:22:26.480 a bunch of stuff i gotta get him if not it'll be monday or tuesday he's become a new contributor
00:22:30.000 but make sure and people love him when he comes on go check out strategic intelligence
00:22:35.100 that's his newsletter you do it by going to records war room that's all one word records war room
00:22:41.380 he's thrown in the free book he's just redone a book they did a couple years ago but it's it's a
00:22:46.780 it's an analysis of uh uh ron paul's uh the new gold standard uh or returning to the gold standard
00:22:55.960 returning to gold called the case for gold ron paul put it out i think back even in the 80s uh with
00:23:03.280 president reagan to make an argument they had a commission to decide not to go to the gold standard
00:23:07.600 he put the case out why they should make sure you go read it remember here's the interesting thing
00:23:11.980 he's not a gold bug he's never been a guy said we should go to a gold standard but he writes the
00:23:16.040 new case for gold and you should get it also see if you can't get him to give you a currency wars
00:23:20.400 because currency wars are very important particularly as you're seeing everything about the chinese
00:23:25.340 communist party now not just hoarding gold but hoarding other resources like oil and natural gas
00:23:30.440 people think that they may be on the verge of a massive devaluation uh to kind of reset their economy
00:23:36.160 so make sure also when you go to gym see if you can't kick in currency wars also it's an absolutely
00:23:41.560 incredible book uh ben harnwell is going to join me right after the break um another incredible day
00:23:48.300 both and this is what my biggest problem is with johnson and this is why we continue on this
00:23:53.380 okay from the morning shows the afternoon shows we're not seeing the action we clearly have his
00:23:59.600 attention because now he's running around saying all this different stuff he's talking about uh you
00:24:04.320 know mass deportations he's talking about uh you know the committees about uh they they're
00:24:09.660 they're violating uh with lawfare they're violating the rule of law we've heard all the talk
00:24:14.500 it's time now beyond talk because you're on the clock that vote yesterday was a terrible vote for you
00:24:20.500 that was much tougher than the original vote for uh for um mccarthy if the democrats had sided with
00:24:28.940 hakeem jeffries today uh mike johnson be gone he absolutely gone everybody gone as of last night
00:24:36.360 hakeem jeffries and the democrats saved him why he's essentially been uh submissive to hakeem jeffries
00:24:43.280 and passed everything biden wanted everything hakeem jeffries wanted hasn't made any cuts anywhere
00:24:48.820 you've got this horrific uh spending he didn't use any of the leverage to shut down the government
00:24:54.740 and bring biden to the negotiating table in washington dc the only thing they respond to
00:25:01.160 is power it's a spiritual war at the end of the day when you look at the parties and you look at the
00:25:06.400 groups and you look at what's in back of them it's a spiritual war but it manifests itself
00:25:10.000 in the physical sphere and this is what the problem is is that we're not using leverage we're not being
00:25:17.220 fighters and i can tell you from eli crane saying patient and pace in arizona they gave him a standing
00:25:23.760 ovation and we're booing johnson when he says which way should i vote the same thing happened
00:25:29.340 last night in palm beach florida which is a totally different crowd totally different but exactly the
00:25:35.160 same you know why they're american patriots and they're american patriots who not just love this
00:25:40.980 country they're american patriots to say let's get it on it's time for a fight and a fight we have
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00:26:37.060 a commemoration of their i don't know 65 million people that died in world war ii fighting the
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00:32:31.700 victory in europe day i don't remember capitol hill i gotta check this out i don't remember capitol
00:32:37.320 having any commemoration yesterday for ve day the 79th anniversary and just uh commemoration
00:32:45.200 incredible but the russians do it the following day this is victory day normally where they roll out
00:32:51.740 the tanks and the missiles and and really commemorate uh and and they take it as their
00:32:56.600 victory over the german army uh give me your assessment of that particularly as you look
00:33:00.960 european-wide where we are today and with this ukraine war on the 79th anniversary of the russians uh
00:33:07.740 claiming their stake in the victory over the nazis that's right steve well and they simply put the
00:33:13.760 reason that the russians celebrate this victory in europe day on the ninth um it's simply because
00:33:19.100 they're a couple of hours ahead um moscow's a couple of hours ahead so when the official ceasefire
00:33:24.880 kicked in i think it was 11 p.m or something on london time um uh on on may the 8th that was that was
00:33:32.220 that that had already started as one in the morning on on may the 9th so that's why they have a slightly
00:33:37.740 different day um of course it fits in perfectly dovetails perfectly for for the russians for for
00:33:44.100 for vladimir putin uh who started his war in ukraine but we do call it a war we don't call
00:33:49.480 it a special military operation we call it a war um he invaded ukraine because um he said he wanted
00:33:57.140 to denazify the country and of course the biden regime the ursula von der leyen the presidents of
00:34:03.860 the european commission the world's mainstream media basically everybody piled in saying everyone
00:34:10.260 apart from of course the war room piled in um saying this is absolutely ridiculous there are no nazis
00:34:15.760 in in ukraine this is just a pretext um and of course what we've seen what even now the mainstream
00:34:23.180 media itself the more honest elements of it um are starting to demonstrate is there are nazis
00:34:29.680 neo-nazis pro-nazi movements very very powerful positions um in ukraine and of course that sort of
00:34:36.960 that double dovetails nicely for putin right now um to to remind his own people the russian people
00:34:44.000 as to why they went in so what denver's very kindly popped up here on the screen now is an article in
00:34:49.340 the times murdoch press um and this basically says now steve look i follow ukraine probably more closely
00:34:56.880 than i've over the last two and a half years more closely than i've ever followed any political foreign
00:35:02.840 affairs event um in my life i've pretty much read every single article i've spoken to people journalists
00:35:08.580 who've been out there to ukrainians who are here um i like to think i'm informed on what's going on in
00:35:14.060 the country um there was something emerged uh a factoid a factoid in in in the times and i have to say i
00:35:21.880 didn't know this um since 2017 there'd been a ban on in the united states on u.s arms going to the
00:35:32.180 the azov brigade the azov battalion because of its um since 2017 okay uh because of its uh decade-old
00:35:41.360 accusations uh of nazi links that's all the time steve that the white house um was coming out and
00:35:49.680 saying you know it's absolutely ridiculous there are no nazi elements in ukraine well they were
00:35:55.980 very well they were saying that they themselves knew that they had and it didn't originate with
00:36:01.000 it with the biden white house um since 2017 there had been an export embargo of arms manufactured by
00:36:10.880 the united states to go in into ukraine to this specific brigade the azov brigade um so that was a
00:36:17.320 buried uh fact in this article um which i think just sort of illustrates everything and of course
00:36:23.020 it goes on to the other it sort of follows this story that we found that we hit a couple of weeks
00:36:27.940 ago on the war room about this russian nationalist who who who who left russia um um this uh this is a
00:36:38.360 guy who left russia because of his open pro-nazi pro-nationalist sympathies spent a couple couple of
00:36:45.780 years in germany where the german uh security services said this guy's a guy to watch he's a
00:36:51.680 nationalist this guy then went to ukraine um and was helping fight against his own ethnic russians
00:36:59.680 helping zelensky fight them why because russia under putin wasn't nationalist enough for him and
00:37:05.640 ukraine was so all these things are starting to emerge now and i think it does feed in to um to
00:37:13.040 putin's narrative and though the parallels with the 79 years ago and and the the huge fights that are
00:37:20.280 then allies obviously that the soviet union had made the huge massive sacrifices that they'd made
00:37:25.360 fighting nazism these things will all go together for them steve but one thing it doesn't seem like
00:37:34.900 the um the ultra-nationalist russians that are nazis and the azov brigade which i think are ukrainians
00:37:45.900 that are nazis they're also ultra-nationalist uh correct me if i'm wrong as i've kept up with those
00:37:52.240 two and followed them they don't seem like they have a recruiting problem the recruiting problem he
00:37:57.980 seems to have is with the general overall ukrainian army remember he had the two generals
00:38:02.400 two the most revered guys in ukraine stood up to uh stood up to zelensky and uh and said look at an
00:38:11.580 average age of 42 years old uh and since these now tactics are very much like the uh the western front
00:38:19.960 of what in world war one essentially trench warfare where you're giving up lives for inches every day
00:38:27.220 uh we need a massive infusion 500 000 this year of kids give me an update on that because
00:38:35.480 it seems like it appears like two of the most robust fighting elements in the ukrainian army
00:38:43.160 happen to be nazis now we were told by msmec and cnn that that was all a lie that was all
00:38:49.680 misrepresentation not to go back to the commemoration of the great victory and to bring up
00:38:54.520 you know unpleasant uh times but when the vermark came across uh ukraine in uh you know in 19 uh
00:39:03.540 1941 uh they had at least half the country of the ukrainians at least half the country was on the
00:39:11.160 site now stalin and the bolsheviks had starved five million ukrainians and many jewish people i would
00:39:19.380 actually argue that this is just one level down or two levels down from the holocaust itself they had
00:39:26.040 starved uh being and they were it's kansas it is one of the most fertile places in the world that grain
00:39:33.260 was all shipped back to to russia because russia was turning the their peasants and serfs into a mass
00:39:39.760 industrialization movement they wanted all the all the uh all the agriculture come from ukraine
00:39:44.860 so i could see why uh ukrainians had a uh were not big fans of the red army not big fans of of
00:39:52.700 stalin but this history of world war ii which is also predicated by vendettas to go back centuries
00:40:00.020 and centuries is the lived experience of that area today and that's why americans who by the way
00:40:06.640 don't really think much about world war ii today unless they're seeing a movie uh you know of steven
00:40:11.520 spielberg or you know like i said last night in the speech the world war ii for americans is pearl
00:40:16.940 harbor uh normandy the holocaust and uh hiroshima and that's it over there it's a lived experience
00:40:24.720 even today and it seems like we've been financing uh and maybe we had an embargo on asa but we've been
00:40:31.860 financing uh something that at least putin said denazification he may not be that wrong but it
00:40:39.220 looks like two of the most robust fighting units they've got are the ultra-nationalist russians
00:40:44.280 who thinks putin's a wimp and uh the azov were just flat out nazis including the insignias on their
00:40:51.460 uniform sir that's right steven you mentioned you touched there uh an important point to understand
00:40:58.440 the internal political dynamics obviously this is the time when uh yesterday uh when putin was just
00:41:04.860 inaugurated for his fifth term uh as president but um within the dynamic of russia he you know
00:41:12.540 he's obviously cast by the world's the western mainstream media as being some kind of ultra
00:41:19.080 nationalist exponent within the the cast out from from the russian political system he's actually
00:41:25.700 got different factions himself that he has to balance and to his own right flank if one can use
00:41:31.320 like there are people who are a lot more um nationalist uh than he is and bombarding him on social
00:41:37.820 media for for his moderation in ukraine so he he does have that right flank um and it's not an
00:41:44.520 insignificant one i'd say i'd put it personally at about between 10 and 15 percent of the pop of the
00:41:50.120 russian population actually think that um that putin is too moderate that's a non-insignificant
00:41:57.320 proportion um so he does have his own factions like as any you know even dictators have their
00:42:03.680 have factions even even dictators without elections have factions that they have to balance um and that's
00:42:09.600 definitely the case in russia as well um now with regards to the manpower issue um there's something
00:42:15.720 that emerged today uh which which i think you'll find interesting uh this is from a uh an mp a
00:42:23.000 parliamentarian from zelensky's servants uh of the people party elena shulia who put out on social
00:42:30.720 media a new measure that hasn't yet been confirmed by president zelensky but it's something that they're
00:42:36.220 working on this is this is basically an illustration steve of how professor uh meersheimer's uh prophecy
00:42:43.360 sad tragic prophecy that the west was going to fight russia down to the last ukraine how how fighting
00:42:49.940 ukraine down to the last ukraine that actually looks in practice you remember that we touched
00:42:54.920 a couple of weeks ago on the show how and this is unheard of in modern combat when someone loses a
00:43:01.060 limb um and they have a prosthetic put on those people you know they're they're never sent back to
00:43:06.840 the front line in any theater of war they are being um in ukraine people who've lost like two limbs
00:43:13.280 are being strapped together and sent back that's fighting that's fighting russia down to the last
00:43:19.940 ukrainian there's this story today and what they're doing now is they're trying to mobilize uh prisoners
00:43:26.180 um to try to boost their ranks and you can see that the problem that they have here is that not everyone
00:43:33.600 is going to be eligible for this uh call up the mo the mobilization for example steve will not apply
00:43:40.240 to prisoners um convicted of the willful killing of more than two people so if you've killed one
00:43:47.160 person that's fine um you you can you can you can go to the front line if you killed more uh if you
00:43:53.780 killed both and two people obviously they have their standards they're not going uh hold on hang on
00:43:59.080 hang on it's not it's not hang on it's not if you killed one person you're fine if you killed two
00:44:03.260 people you're fine you killed a couple not a problem you kill a couple plus one you got a problem
00:44:09.000 right you can't serve yeah yeah basically steve this is fight this is what it looks like in
00:44:15.760 practice when you are when one country is being used to fight another country down to its last
00:44:20.740 citizen this is exactly you know it sounds ridiculous it sounds like you know it's just a
00:44:24.960 joke on the onion no it's it's absolutely true this is what is happening in a country that is finding
00:44:29.800 it's it's it's fight available fighting force depleted every day because the russians are
00:44:35.680 accelerating they're they're they're not they're not pausing but hang on they're increasing their
00:44:40.820 drone bombardments don't don't don't don't bury the lead the lead is there is a rational actor in this
00:44:47.020 that's the parents of the young men remember the whole reason for the call for volunteers that failed
00:44:53.240 and then going and taking a year it took them a year to get passage on this uh on this draft because
00:45:00.480 they knew that could bring down the zelinski government in an overthrow it took them a year
00:45:05.040 to get through and it's not even really being implemented is that the parents were paying up to
00:45:10.880 ten thousand dollars i think these are people who make nine fifty uh nine hundred fifty dollars a month
00:45:15.540 they're paying up to five and ten thousand dollars to get their kids out of there and get them into the
00:45:20.700 rest of europe why they understand that this is not really fighting for ukraine anymore the whole
00:45:26.760 situation with the eastern provinces russian speaking province of the boss and crimea we have
00:45:32.520 said on the show has been settled for a while right unless you go unless the the west goes tactical nuke
00:45:38.860 uh and then he'll hit you back you're not going to get those territories back because the entire
00:45:44.420 momentum has been on the been on the other side and zelinski's thrown so much so much not just money
00:45:50.900 and firepower into this or at least half of what we sent over there but he's turned this into a
00:45:56.520 charnel house for young people the the parents understand what's going on they don't want their
00:46:00.980 kids involved in this and they don't care what general steps up they don't care what uh zelinski
00:46:05.400 has to say they don't care all the speeches or all victoria newland going over there they're adamant
00:46:10.680 their kids their most precious asset are not going to get thrown into the into the fire pit of war
00:46:16.840 over there sir steve that's right um but it's not only kids um that are being that are being
00:46:23.880 removed from the fire firing line because of their concerned parents to come back to this bill if i
00:46:30.600 may just to finish this um this bill that's just had its second reading in in the um in the ukrainian
00:46:36.440 parliament um also exempted are um people convicted this is exempted from mobilization mobilization
00:46:46.600 steve people convicted while holding important political positions won't be sent to the front
00:46:53.800 oh my god that's disgusting that's revolting that's revolting no that's revolting that that's why this
00:47:02.680 whole thing's sick and us funding it is sick these people these people are the worst zelinski in that
00:47:07.960 crowd they're gonna they're driving this every day they're taking from america taxpayers and they exempt
00:47:14.120 themselves their buddies and their friends children because they're important political positions
00:47:20.120 that's exempt i i i i don't know why the parents in ukraine do not overthrow this crowd it's sick
00:47:27.400 it's twisted and it's sick and it's led to everything we said it was going to lead to we've been dead spot
00:47:32.280 on in this in over the two years that we covered this fiasco and for the people that funded it the
00:47:37.640 victorian newlands of the world they'll burn in a deep pit of hell for what they did to the ukrainian
00:47:42.600 people on this ben harnwell we got to bounce any any closing observations
00:47:49.080 the war is going badly for ukraine i've got a couple of articles we don't have time to hit them
00:47:54.360 now but this is for example i just mentioned these things i'll post them perhaps um on our rumble
00:47:59.800 channel where there's more space uh to do these things an article in the washington post that refers
00:48:06.120 to the meat grinder of the war uh talking about how russian and ukrainian casualties are rising
00:48:12.440 that's on the the the headline steve that the war they're the meat grinder you know it's it's almost
00:48:17.400 now to see sort of terminology that we've been using on the war room it's now filtering through to the
00:48:23.160 mainstream media and that's of course the langley bugle itself um and i think that's of a certain
00:48:28.520 interest an article in nick similar story in the economist ukraine's draft judges are living in
00:48:34.280 fair hold no hold those back i want to go into those tomorrow because the ukraine thing they're
00:48:40.680 about to drop on the american people which they lied about they're about to drop on the american
00:48:45.160 people they are they are working on a 10-year financing plan for the war 10 years which is
00:48:52.040 going to lead into this budget more importantly they are handcuffing president trump every day as they
00:48:56.840 try to de-trumpify uh the budget going forward so when president trump would come back and take
00:49:02.680 office there's certain limitations on the sanctions against the russians certain limitations on nato
00:49:07.560 what he can do there and big limitations on what he can do for this 10-year funding plan they want to get
00:49:13.160 in place before election day so this is all we've been on this from the beginning this is a complete and
00:49:18.360 total scam and the people that are on our side are the parents of the kids uh in ukraine and you're
00:49:25.160 seeing they're doing everything possible to get their kids out of there make sure they try to have
00:49:28.760 some semblance of a life ben harnwell uh your uh engagement is amazing at getter because your
00:49:35.240 contents incredible where do people go thanks steve simply tapping my surname harnwell at harnwell on
00:49:43.320 getter and to flag up for the show tomorrow um we've got some developments on corruption apps coming
00:49:49.000 out of the political system in ukraine big stories there i'll highlight it now we'll hit it tomorrow folks
00:49:55.000 at home you're not going to want to miss what we have for you tomorrow thanks very much steve god
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