WarRoom Battleground EP 601: Stop Dooming And Start Working
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Join us as we discuss the arrest of a 20-year-old suspect in connection to an attempted arson attack on a church in Chesterland, NY, and the upcoming march for liberty conference in DC on Thursday, March 27th.
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this is what you're fighting for i mean every day you're out there what they're doing is blowing
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people off if you continue to look the other way and shut up then the oppressors the
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authoritarians get total control and total power because this is just like in arizona this is just
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like in georgia it's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and
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misrepresentations is why this audience is going to have to get engaged as we've told you this is the
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fight all this nonsense all this spin they can't handle the truth war room battleground here's your
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now the suspect was arrested this morning in connection to an arson attempt at a church and
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in chesterland and now faces the federal charges
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they say 20 year old even penny of alliance used all the time
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the community church of chesterland back on march 25th they say in an attempt to burn it to the crowd
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some families live in a house by themselves some families share a house with other families
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some families have two moms or two dads some families have one parent instead of two
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all families are sad when they lose someone they love
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all families can help each other be strong it's okay to dance by yourself
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and it's okay to be proud of yourself it's okay to have different kinds of friends
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good evening everyone and to the war room posse my name is terry shilling president of american
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principles project doing my best to fill in the gaps for the unreplaceable irreplaceable
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steven k bannon it is august 27th 2024 in the year of our lord and i am honored and thrilled to be
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joined here with my very good friend and partner in crime tiffany justice president moms really really
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tiffany thank you for having me today i'm so excited but i will not lie coming in here and not
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having steve in that chair is hard but i do really appreciate you've got the pens going
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so that's making me feel at home stop stop rewind that reverse it we're going to be doing some steve
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van impressions a little bit um but tiffany you've got a huge conference coming up here we've got the
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march for kids um what i appreciate though about moms for liberty uh and something that we try to
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replicate at app is you guys don't doom you don't gloat you get to work and i think that's more
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important than ever today you go on social media and it's just full of dooming and gloating and very
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few workers and so can you talk a little bit about the conference coming up who's going to be there
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what you know what's going on there yeah i'm very excited about the summit here in dc at the jw
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marriott downtown starts on thursday night rob schneider is joining us which is awesome i'm so excited
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to chat with him and seth dillon from babylon beats so that's how we'll kick off the night with
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a little laughter bring people together right some of the things that we're dealing with right now are
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so crazy and ridiculous you have to laugh and i think it's good for our souls so that's how we'll
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start and then friday is a very full day the first panel terry that we're going to do is a change maker
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panel and i've been planning this for months and then when rfk came out and endorsed president trump
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it just felt like such an amazing moment that we're going to be able to bring together tulsi gabbard
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uh jennifer say who was a vp at levi's who left her job uh because of covid uh mandates and policies
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and she was fighting against fighting for kids um it'll be maud maron who uh was on the community
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education council in new york city in manhattan and then the chancellor of education chancellor
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banks there uh took her off so she was elected and then removed uh by uh chancellor banks lovely
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and then a rep from texas and you and i were just talking about texas a little bit a rep
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sean terry who's a democrat uh who stood with republicans on the issue of gender against gender
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transition and stood up for kids and uh stood against the the horrible pornographic books
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and libraries and so she was the only democrat to do that and she's going to come and tell her story
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no it look it's an all-star cast you guys are getting to work sean terry by the way not only
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championed the the legislation in in the texas state house to get these books out of schools
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she got punished for voting to ban these gender mutilation surgeries that they're pushing
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so if you had any doubt that this that this stuff is critical and a paramount in the democratic
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party this is their litmus test if you are against the democratic party's push to empower
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big pharma and these hospital systems and these mutilating doctors uh over children if you're off the
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on off the reservation on that for them you're out they're going to primary you they're going to
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throw millions of dollars against you and they're going to kick you out and so it's so awesome that
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sean uh is uh uh you know leading the charge against this uh tiffany i want to get into like
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the work that you guys are doing in the states but i want to go further into the doomers because i
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can't stand the doomers the black pillars need to go uh i have harsher words but i don't think i can
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say them on the air i promise cameron that i would not get any fcc violations but guys this is a jump
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it's a jump ball that you know the after every national convention for the political parties there's
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usually a big bump afterwards we are seeing that kamala harris has received no bump i want to
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repeat no bump national polling puts trump at plus three arizona trump plus three pennsylvania trump
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plus four pennsylvania trump plus one ohio trump plus 12 wisconsin harris plus one michigan harris plus
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two this is a jump ball tiffany it is it is not anything to doom over it really is and i'm just going
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to point people to the video that played before you and i started talking right so apparently
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it's this guy from modern family who made this uh documentary about drag queen story hour right
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i was thinking back to modern family and they were a modern family right they had uh two dads right
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they had a gay couple and they had a blended family and um you know then they had a more traditional
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mom and dad family um and uh you know okay so modern family was represented you know what i didn't see
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on that show was all of the radical policies that the democrats are pushing like cutting off the
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healthy breasts of children like masking and closing schools right stuff that we know they
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would do again right now and so i think that there's a real fracture in the democrat party
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i think that you know i asked you how what percentage of voters are aren't okay with gender transition
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from minors we'll just take that issue alone you said like 30 that's huge i think we're seeing
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the democratic party voters are against the stuff you're against i mean with i think with republicans
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almost 100 100 but if you think about 30 of their voters aren't okay with the gender transition
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surgery or or and other issues they have a lot of uh fracturing happening within their party and i
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think they're very very vulnerable and with the rfk endorsement i think it just gives permission to
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democrats to be able to stand up and speak out and to question the party and you're going to see more
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and more of that because we know courage is contagious and that works both ways no it absolutely
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does and and this is the thing the other so you see the dooming some accounts online you see the gloating
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online uh the other thing that's killing me lately is the nitpicking yeah right i mean if there was ever
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a clear election or a clear contrast between the two opponents or to the candidates it was it's this
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election it is not it is so obvious who the candidate is that supports every day and i'm
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going to use this word i know it's offensive normal americans normal americans people that
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just believe that men are men and women are women they don't care they want you they want to leave
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everyone else alone but they just want you to stay away from kids they don't think kids should learn
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about this crazy stuff in school they're pushing they don't want men and girls sports they want
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women to be protected they actually support civil rights law as it was originally intended and written
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this election as sarah huckabee said it is about crazy versus normal and the contrast cannot be
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bigger and with that i actually want to bring in um someone that i met along the campaign trail at
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the republican national convention this year many of you guys are familiar with riley gains an absolute
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rock star who has put everything into uh the the effort to save women's sports and get back to normalcy
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when it comes to gender but one person i was shocked that i hadn't really heard of before
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was an amazing woman named paula scanlan who's joining us now paula uh scanlan is actually a
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collegiate swimmer and she was forced to swim on the same swim team as leah thomas uh the male who
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claims to be a woman who actually tied for third place with riley gains at that major uh conference
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national championship but paula is here paula tell us about your experience with swimming with leah thomas
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and uh and all the things because some of the things you shared with me were absolutely shocking
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thank you so much for having me today i've done some stuff with tiffany so we're in great company but um
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i mean it was as insane as you could imagine i mean the gaslighting that they put us women through
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we were on this team and we were forced to undress with this six foot four tall plus male individual
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with fully intact with male genitalia 18 times every single week they made us do this and when
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we tried to go to the athletic department and our coaches and the administration they told us that him
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being on the team was a non-negotiable they said if we ever spoke out against it we would be labeled for
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the rest of our lives as hateful and bigoted we would never be able to find a job they even compared
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it to the next civil rights movement they said if you do not want to undress in front of this
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six foot four tall man that it is equivalent to not wanting to undress with someone based on their
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race uh it was mad i would just like to say i would just like to say also that i was with riley the
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other day and we were talking and she was talking about just putting on your swimsuit and how it's
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not just like a normal undressing and dressing but that like you know it takes a while to get those
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swimsuits on so you have it's a very vulnerable experience to be in a locker room with a bunch of
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women that are changing in and out of those suits several times a day i just can't even imagine paula
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paula i'm wondering you know how like the coercion factor here that is what kills me because we're
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told all the all the time that there is a massive rape culture in america and i actually believe that
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and i i think that it's actually part of what the left has been building towards when you know when
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you tear down every single barrier around sex and sexual interactions except for consent uh this is
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where it leads and when you tell young men that they they can't control themselves right it leads to
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this type of stuff but i think that what you dealt with here is even worse than that not only were you
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forced to to undress and be in the same locker rooms a very vulnerable place right i think about my
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daughters uh and putting them in those positions this is what laws are meant to do they're meant to
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protect the vulnerable right you don't pass laws to protect the strong and the powerful they already
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have abilities to defend themselves so i wonder if you can talk a little bit more about your experiences
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with the coercion factor because it seems to me that this is not just a one-off that you're not the
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only person being coerced and the women on your your swim team were not the only ones this is
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happening all across the country yeah i mean we're seeing stories the the loudon county virginia
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bathroom story if people are familiar with that awful and that is exactly why we need to have these
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rules right because we're allowing men to self-id saying you doesn't matter what surgeries you've
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received it doesn't matter who you are or what you're attracted to or whatever if you identify as a
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woman you are now welcomed and entitled to these spaces and the only men that are going to be doing
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that are predators terry i can't imagine that you would want to go and undress in a woman's
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locker room right i mean like the only men that are doing this are sick in the head and that's that's
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what's so crazy and i was and i was having a conversation with a friend about the same thing
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right he was a male friend was telling me only a sick man would want to do that he would never dream
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of that you would never do that my father my brother they would never dream of doing that
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and so that's really what we're opening the doors that's the worst people we're teaching girls also
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to ignore their instincts every moment that we felt uncomfortable in that locker room
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we were told you're wrong you're hateful you're the problem and we're reprogramming our instincts to
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say actually you need to welcome these predatory men into your spaces and i think that's what's so
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dangerous is and this is minors that this is happening to in my situation we were all 18 and up
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but this is happening to young girls right in high school in middle school i've heard of even
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elementary school girls who are uncomfortable because there's now boys coming into their
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bathrooms listen i i couldn't agree more and you know at best this is rude right like being in a
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space where other people don't want you at best it's rude and we all try to be polite and and you
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know if someone doesn't want you around the polite thing to do is to not be around them right and
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there are limits to that but at worst and this is what it is is it's predatory right it's important
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to instill in young girls self-confidence to where they if they don't feel comfortable around someone
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if they don't feel comfortable with someone touching them or being around them or undressing
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around them they're absolutely justified and and not wanting to be around them and not having to put
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up with that two things first of all what percentage of democrat voters don't believe that men should
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be in women's locker rooms right you they are there start talking to them and then the other thing
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is terry i just want to say this is exactly what social emotional learning is doing in the public
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school system with the younger kids they're programming them to say well if you're uncomfortable
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with something then you need to change and women shouldn't get comfortable with men undressing in
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our private spaces with us it's absolutely ridiculous no if you feel uncomfortable you shouldn't have to put
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up with it and here's the thing there are one two and it's going to keep happening right they're
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creating more of this it's like the bill maher quote either ohio is suppressing them or california is
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creating them and that's the reality the reality is that they're creating them they're confusing these
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people and and i will say this i think the situation that we have with the internet and the websites
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and how we don't have any protections for young people or kids or any accountability for some of
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the websites that are out there and the content that they're promoting i think it's criminal and
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it's making creepy people but these are predators these are people that absolutely don't care about
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making other people feel uncomfortable which is a red flag sometimes they get off on that right
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right when you when you don't care about making other people uncomfortable that is a major red flag
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that's like socio like textbook sociopathic behavior correct but that's what the public
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schools are doing i mean they are creating little social justice warriors little sociopaths in a way
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who are just i mean at the same time you have to be kind and nice and empathetic to everyone but you
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also can center yourself anywhere that you want to center yourself and no longer is it about making
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accommodations to public school but it's now you know making sure that um
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the kids aren't thinking for themselves and that they're also i i just say and that they're also
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questioning everything that they're being taught at home paula i i want to turn it to you because i i
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like go on no just to go on with what tiffany was saying i mean just the university pennsylvania put all
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of us women on the team actual women okay they excluded leah thomas the man from this meeting
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and they sat us all down and told all those things i mentioned before but the other thing that they
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said is they said if you still have a problem with this please seek psychological services so we are now
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in an age where they're recommending we go seek counseling because we do not want to undress next to
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a man and have him watch us on completely naked right what they're doing this all over there we're
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also taking the psychological services this whole industry of therapy and they're using it to put women
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into situations that are dangerous um and i think that that is just sort of touching on what tiffany
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was saying just now right that we're reprogramming everyone we're changing the norms of society and
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we're saying the people who are uncomfortable i somehow need to go to a therapist to make myself
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better because i don't want to undress next to a man like am i missing something no paula i you know
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everyone in the audience and i think the masterjury americans if they could hear your story if we had a
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mainstream legacy media that would actually tell these groundbreaking stories right these are so
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what you are going through right now is like a rosa park situation right you are having your rights
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infringed in in one of the worst possible ways ever where you are being made to feel like the enemy
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like you are the bad guy you are the evil one for not wanting to do what every other woman before you
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never had to do women women were never forced about to do this right and when they were that's when
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women were fighting for their rights to get their own private spaces that was the premise behind
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civil rights for women in this country was so that they didn't have to go into men's rooms and
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locker rooms and showers and bathrooms that they could have their own private spaces so that they could
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enter the workforce so that they could go to schools that was the entire premise of civil rights law
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but paula i i want to i want you to speak to something because i think it's very important
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a lot of people think about uh politics as being separate from culture and i want to make this very
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clear politics in america because of our founding because of our situation with our government
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being a democracy or representative republic however you want to frame it people get to vote
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politics in america is part of the culture absolutely and it's driving all of this stuff
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into into into the issue set right you are having to deal with this not because of some social fad that's
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going on you are having to deal with this because legislators and people in positions of authority
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are making policies and passing laws forcing you to go along with this that's right so i want to ask you
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to speak to that i want you to actually you know we obviously know that kamala harris is horrific on this
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issue and we'll actually mandate this all in all 50 states right we've gotten 25 states now to protect
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girls sports kamala harris's legislation the equality act would actually erase all those laws
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and pit the federal government into forcing the schools to go along with this so i'd like you
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please to just share your words act like you are talking directly to kamala harris
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and tell her what's on your mind and why she's wrong about this okay well i'm gonna have to tone it
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down a little bit because obviously i would like to say something we got the fcc here not appropriate
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for uh online because this makes me angry i i think to keep it to keep this pretty brief
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you are an idiot for thinking that you don't know what a woman is i mean look at all the things in
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society and people are screaming saying they can't wait to vote for kamala harris because she's the
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first she could be the first woman president and they don't even know what the word means
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um by allowing they know what it means by allowing men to self-id okay you are opening the doors to
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every opportunity in society you can think of that women have received to being to welcoming men so this
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is not just in sports this is scholarships you could be looking at generations of women now not being
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allowed to go to college at all right because there's there's female only scholarships you could
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have you could be an excelling student in whatever course it is and you get a scholarship to go to
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college you get a scholarship for athletics every single one of those opportunities can now be taken
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by someone that's male you can send your 17 year old daughter off to college she gets a randomly
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assigned roommate that can be a boy what terry would you want happening now would you want that for
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your kids i mean this is just looking at the complete erasure of society if we don't know what
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a man and a woman is and the difference between the two and nothing else matters all the other
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issues that everyone's talking about abortion they scream about that right you can't even have those
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issues if you don't know the difference between man and woman so everything really stems down from
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this and if we can't figure this out none of the other policies matter well i don't think you'd have
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a society without common agreements on what reality is right i mean a society has to agree on certain
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things you don't always have to agree and uh you know agree on how to do things or however the
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problems to fix uh but you have to at least agree on what a man is what a woman is what a family is
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right you have to agree on some basic premises for a society to exist you can disagree about how to
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handle those things and how to go about them but you have to you can't be a united states of america if
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we don't even know what a woman is if we're dividing even the most basic definitions of things that
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we know to be true have known to be true for the all of existence of human existence then we know we
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we know what a woman is we know what a man is can i talk about culture war for a second because the
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one thing when rfk spoke and he made that speech he said something about he didn't care about the
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other issues in the culture war and i think what you said about the culture being a part of politics
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is so incredibly important um we are in the middle of a cultural revolution it's not like a culture war
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and there's some like like i don't want to honestly i don't need to be doing like i don't want to do
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this i would like to be home cooking dinner for my family right like i i there were things i did in my
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own community that i really enjoyed and so like being a part of this and fighting in the culture
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war but we didn't start the culture war we didn't start this fire we're gonna put it out because they
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put porn in our kids public school libraries and they have drag queens sitting on the floor
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men dressed up like women mocking us reading to our children and somehow trying to brainwash us like
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this is okay but we're gonna put the fire out but so i just think that the the place where we go in
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the evolution of this conversation is you know with rfk okay thank you for coming and now we'd like to
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talk to you about our some come some of our concerns too because we are in the middle of a
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cultural revolution and media and the schools are two of the biggest battlegrounds paula uh we need
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to blow you up i i want as many people to hear your story because they're certainly not going to hear it
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or read about it the new york times or seen on msnbc or cnn uh can you share with people where they
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can find you online and how they can follow your work yep i'm pretty active on twitter um paula
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why scanlan i'm also on instagram uh i mean you know where am i not getting strikes uh they seem
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to just shut shut down i post something and i say i had i was teammates with a man and i got tagged
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with misinformation because they'll say something like leah thomas is actually a trans woman well
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i'm sorry i hate to break it to you but a trans woman is actually a man um so we have to be precise
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with our language here and i think continuing to do this fight i mean tiffany i've done stuff with
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you before you are wonderful and again i don't want to do this either but we have to do this
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we have to for the next generation this is not about myself this is not about riley this is about
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the next generation of of children that depend on foundations and agreement in society
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thank you so much for joining us paula uh before we go to the break we're about done with this
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segment um we are going to lead in with a new culture war uh the culture war documentary uh that we
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worked on with steve bannon we got uh president trump to sit down with us and talk about what
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has been happening in our military and how our woke generals biden and kamala harris have waged
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i called mattis i'm not you didn't really call mattis over the defense department many times i said
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hey this has got to be a mistake can you get your can you get your comms department your pao your public
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affairs officer you get those out of right now i'm sure there's some inadvertent leak from the
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pentagon and he said oh no no no no we've had a study and we've been doing this and working this for
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years this is a joint policy and this is out and i go hey every second let me understand this this
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transgender thing like people in the military we would actually pay for this we would pay for the
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surgeries for these people oh no this is policy we've worked on this for years i said hey full
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stop let me hear this again and he goes through the whole litany of transgenderism this and i said
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and you know not just you're going to keep them in the military you're going to promote them you're
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going to have surgeries you're going to have aftercare and and i look at this thing as billions
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of dollars and i said have you lost your mind and he gives me i said hey every second i said come down
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we walk right to the oval office ask president trump hey can we clear some time out general's got
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got to tell you something and i said give him the pitch tell him what we just you just announced and
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he gives it to trump and trump just sits there and president trump is a great listener i mean he's not a
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guy in meetings and throwing telling people what to do he listens lets arguments go and then comes
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and makes decisions he looks at mattis and goes at the end of it goes excuse me what are you talking
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about and it's just he says he says what it's already done it's done nothing could happen
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president trump goes calls the hope hicks who's out there and says hey can you get don mcgann who's the
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white house counsel he says get don mcgann out here tell him to bring a yellow pad
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with mattis sitting right there and he gets down there and he says look how quickly can i get when
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these executive orders we had president trump kind of train by that time how quickly can you get this
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thing i'm gonna put it on an executive order right now in fact you're gonna write it down and we're
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just gonna do it and uh he drafted an executive order countermandering everything the pentagon
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says hey look here's what we're gonna do about that nothing in fact i'm reversing everything
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i don't give a damn about your report i'm gonna do that on title nine good evening and welcome back
00:33:07.000
to part two of war room today it is august 27th 2024 in the year of our lord welcome back war room
00:33:16.200
posse i am joined by my very good friend and partner in crime tiffany justice moms for liberty
00:33:22.120
tiffany what'd you think about the trailer i thought it was uh fantastic um and just to hear
00:33:28.180
kind of the inner workings about the way that president trump works and the way he makes
00:33:31.680
decisions i've heard that before right he kind of you know brings the best people in lets the
00:33:36.040
arguments go and then makes a decision and um it gives me a lot of hope that a lot of this crazy
00:33:40.740
nonsense that's happening right now in america we're going to be able to reverse very quickly
00:33:44.440
no i think that's right uh if for everyone that's watching war room if you want to go to culturewardoc.com
00:33:49.880
you can see the full-fledged trailer we we did a a unique trailer just for the war room posse want
00:33:55.920
to make sure you guys know that steve bannon sat down with us uh president trump is in this
00:34:00.220
documentary and when steve is talking in that that short clip that we played about president trump
00:34:05.940
being an interesting guy how he how he's actually soliciting a lot of advice and you know when he
00:34:10.640
sat down with us that's exactly the impression that i had he asked us so many questions he was
00:34:16.240
interested in what our thoughts were and what what we thought needed to happen he he is one of the most
00:34:22.060
fascinating guys and i think it's absolutely criminal what the legacy media has done not just
00:34:26.340
to him and his reputation he's a fantastic american president but what they have deprived the american
00:34:32.040
people of which is a president that we should all be revering and really loving as much as reagan or
00:34:36.960
or fdr or jfk i agree and you know it's funny since the rfk endorsement i've had a lot of people like
00:34:42.620
throw things back at me that rfk believes in or that he said before and said look you're supporting this
00:34:47.220
you're supporting this i actually have so much confidence in president trump to be able to bring
00:34:51.860
rfk in a room to have influence on something but then for other people to be able to fight back
00:34:56.460
like you or me to fight back on the gender stuff for example where rfk is really squishy and and i
00:35:01.300
think if he really stands for kids he's gonna ban you know he's gonna be for banning gender transition
00:35:05.960
for minors but you know i i have confidence that the best ideas really do come through when you have
00:35:10.880
that type of a president listen i think you know when rfk jr came out and endorsed trump
00:35:15.660
he said that he was primarily doing it because of the democrats war on free speech the war on ukraine
00:35:21.060
and the war on children yeah and he wasn't just talking about the vaccines and and the food stuff
00:35:25.940
he came out earlier in the year and actually opposed gender affirmation carol that's a that's a focus
00:35:33.140
group term if i ever heard one but he came out and opposed puberty blockers cross-sex hormones and
00:35:37.340
surgeries for kids this is the coalition this is the 50 plus one majority coalition that we are
00:35:43.700
building towards in this country the people that think that there's still normal there's still
00:35:48.640
goodness that america can be made whole we have to just get rid of the of the corruption the rod at
00:35:54.160
the top no dooming start working that's right we're done with doomers they're out tiffany what's going on
00:36:00.300
the states you guys are full you know you guys know better than anyone that is a jump ball because
00:36:04.000
you're in the states where you guys focus what are you doing what does the audience need to do to get
00:36:08.140
involved and engage yeah i mean there are some really great groups that are doing get out the vote
00:36:11.520
around the united states i just want to give a shout out to turning point they helped to make
00:36:14.260
that rfk thing happen i think there was so much energy and momentum that they harnessed there and
00:36:18.280
i'm just incredibly proud of the work that they're doing and really impressed but we are working in
00:36:23.120
four target states to get out the vote we want people to vote on issues at moms for liberty we want
00:36:27.320
them to be really informed so when they go to the ballot box and they are making decisions they know
00:36:31.900
who they're putting on their school board and then they know where on the issue of parental rights
00:36:35.660
every single other person on that ballot stands on that issue and that's how they're voting
00:36:39.880
up ballots so uh wisconsin arizona north carolina and georgia is where we're primarily focusing and
00:36:46.340
we're focusing on like unlikely voters people that haven't turned out before um people that maybe now
00:36:52.440
you know you and i talked about before 30 of the democrat party doesn't like the radical policies of
00:36:57.260
waltz and harris so you know we want those voters and we're making sure that they're informed
00:37:01.700
so when they're going to the ballot box they know exactly where people stand on the issues and they
00:37:05.900
can get the right people into those positions no that's right um one thing you know we talked
00:37:10.620
earlier about the dooming the gloating how those aren't helpful but also the nitpicking and i we've
00:37:16.380
actually asked uh my my other good friend josh hammer uh to join us and he's actually just had a show
00:37:22.840
earlier today about this josh uh what's going on what are you seeing and uh tell us about the
00:37:28.580
nitpicking that we are seeing going on online yeah great to join you guys as always terry you're
00:37:35.120
doing a very capable job filling in for the irreplaceable stephen k van and tiffany you as
00:37:39.200
well of course here look so i i mean those of us who spend a decent amount of time online you know
00:37:45.180
on twitter various other online spaces i mean there there has been this kind of internecine kind of
00:37:51.160
flame war over the past week within the pro-life movement and uh and maga trump about the abortion
00:37:58.420
issue you know terry you and i have discussed this issue at great length i mean literally going years and
00:38:03.600
years and years back i mean i i am someone who has spoken at pro-life conferences i mean when i was a
00:38:08.560
first year law student at the university of chicago i literally founded the law students for life chapter
00:38:13.560
because it had died a few years prior i brought it back and then marched in sub-zero temperatures in
00:38:18.880
downtown chicago the next year for life on the day of the march for life so i mean i i am very much all
00:38:24.180
in on this issue nonetheless you see a lot of people my fellow pro-lifers who i i you know look i i mean
00:38:30.760
not necessarily for wholly for wholly bad reasons but they're they're starting to complain a lot i'm
00:38:37.800
not going to name names there you can kind of do your own digging and see who i'm talking about and
00:38:41.640
i'm not going to defend every single thing that has been said on the campaign trail i personally
00:38:46.160
support a full-on national abortion abolition i believe that this issue much like slavery in the
00:38:52.280
1850s ultimately cannot be decided at the state level but that but that a national resolution ideally
00:38:57.600
under the 14th amendment's equal protection clause is ultimately the way that this thing gets
00:39:01.480
resolved legislatively or judicially but the point terry is that this is a long process and i would
00:39:06.880
like to think that my pro-lifers understand that after having just endured 49 years of the barbaric
00:39:12.540
roe versus wade regime i mean it is tragic that it took 49 years to overturn roe versus wade in the
00:39:17.780
2022 dobbs case but it nonetheless took 49 years these things take time and right now the focus and the
00:39:25.580
onus i think for the pro-life movementary it has to be to go state by state precinct by precinct church
00:39:32.560
by church synagogue by synagogue and to actually change hearts and minds on this issue because
00:39:37.940
you know abraham lincoln famously said that you know without public sentiment nothing can succeed but with
00:39:44.680
public sentiments nothing can fail and right now right now we just have a bit of a mismatch from
00:39:51.040
the kind of standard life begins at conception position of pro-life which i personally accept and
00:39:56.380
have fought for my whole adult life but but that's just not where the public is right now and you know
00:40:01.280
if you are coming at this from a single issue pro-life perspective you have to understand something
00:40:06.800
here the current manifestation the democratic party this is not your clintonian safe legal and rare
00:40:12.860
democratic party this is a party that was literally had a planned parenthood ban outside the convention
00:40:18.120
giving free on demand abortions that had an iud that they were bouncing around the united center
00:40:24.380
like it was a beach ball at yankee stadium this is this is a party that says shout your abortion be
00:40:30.220
proud of it and they are openly talking about abolishing the filibuster in the senate to nationally
00:40:35.020
codify roe versus wade thereby overturning all of our various states such as tiffany and myself our
00:40:41.260
state of florida who have enacted strong pro-life measures so even on this issue where you know maybe
00:40:46.380
from a pro-life perspective the trump rhetoric right now is is admittedly not pitch perfect there is
00:40:52.200
a stark stark contrast here and i think it would be foolish in the extreme to pick this kind of fight
00:40:58.840
69 days as of today i believe it is from an election this contrast is stark pro-lifers need to vote
00:41:05.060
accordingly and then come january 2025 try to enact the best pro-life policies possible to protect as
00:41:11.480
many unborn human beings as possible well josh this gets back to what tiffany and i were talking about
00:41:16.940
earlier which is that you cannot separate politics from policy and you can't separate politics from
00:41:23.960
the culture right when when politics is treated as if it's outside of the culture that's where you start
00:41:29.720
to have a bad time we need to focus like president trump did in the platform on where the american people
00:41:36.100
are and where the american people are is on limiting abortion to the early stages of pregnancy and
00:41:42.080
protecting the unborn at the late stages of pregnancy he's been very clear about this i feel it's it's
00:41:47.660
frustrating because you have so many people that have outside voice outsized voices who get to talk
00:41:52.960
all this that they had to have all these political opinions but there is no political following right for
00:41:57.980
their positions there is not a political following for banning all abortions without exceptions at this
00:42:03.120
current time this is not and that's not how we ended slavery right there were the abolitionists
00:42:07.520
but the vast majority americans did not want to end slavery they didn't want to talk about slavery
00:42:11.020
they did not want to address slavery so much so that when they finally elected a president we got a civil
00:42:16.020
war over it right and so i i want to just use this point to reiterate politics cannot be treated as
00:42:23.260
separate from the culture we need to focus on where the american people are which is at limiting abortion
00:42:27.960
to the early stages of pregnancy and protecting unborn at the later stages of pregnancy
00:42:32.800
that's how we're going to make progress for the american people for the unborn and we go from
00:42:37.800
there you have to protect what you can't i tiffany i compare this to a house on fire and if there's 10
00:42:45.540
kids in the home and you can only save three of these kids you better save all three of those kids
00:42:50.900
heck yeah you can't let the all 10 of them die just because you can't save all of them we have to be
00:42:56.820
smart about this because literal heartbeats are on the line yeah and if you think you're not going to
00:43:01.780
like what trump's position is on this issue wait until you see what harris waltz is how anti-life
00:43:06.380
they are just wait um you know i think this goes back to really an opportunity though we talked about
00:43:11.460
the 30 of democrats who do not like the radical policies there are 30 of democrats without a doubt
00:43:17.040
in my mind who want abortion safe legal and rare that are still in that position right that so many
00:43:23.040
democrats have been for years they are not loving the fact that women are celebrating killing their
00:43:27.580
babies and i would just like to say as a mom of four the fact that we have brainwashed a nation
00:43:32.540
of women to believe that it is freedom to be able to kill your own baby shame on us and so josh is
00:43:38.520
right we need to win hearts and minds back we need to focus on healthy pregnancies and healthy moms
00:43:42.520
because that means healthy kids no that's right josh what do you think you know and let's not
00:43:48.520
separate the the economic and the dating and marriage market part of this broader conversation as well i mean
00:43:55.240
look i mean terry you know again as you and i have to have talked offline for years look you know
00:44:00.260
andrew brightbar famously said politics is downstream culture i think that's half right politics and
00:44:04.360
culture very much have a two-way arrow whereby they they affect one another here so we can use the rule
00:44:09.880
of law to nudge the citizenry i think in a better direction within the the broader bounds of prudence but
00:44:15.840
speaking of how public policy i think can shape hearts and minds and all that you know let's not just
00:44:21.580
talk about banning abortions as many abortions as i personally would like to see banned you know let's
00:44:26.500
talk about trying to get you know more single single income households viable again in america making
00:44:32.220
strong men who can work you know good industrial manufacturing jobs and actually bring home that
00:44:37.740
and that will allow women in turn to be more focused on procreation dating for for marriage and then
00:44:44.600
having more kids so there are a lot of economic components to this broader conversation as well
00:44:49.600
when you look at the polling terry you know a shockingly high percentage of young women say that
00:44:55.660
there are simply not enough eligible men so we have a crisis in this country as well of not raising
00:45:01.020
enough men to be ready willing and able to actually date for the purposes of marriage and procreation so
00:45:07.160
it really ought to be a focus of public policy as well how to get frankly men to mature for the dating
00:45:13.720
market at a younger age and part of this gets back to the broader war on masculinity the war on
00:45:18.340
manliness matt walsh talks about this a lot he's totally right to do so so there's a there's a lot
00:45:23.320
of moving parts of this conversation is what i'm getting at here and there are a lot of things that
00:45:27.780
public policy can do beyond simply just just banning abortion trying to crack down on on the abortion
00:45:34.480
pill mifepristo and all that again i support all those policies if i were king tomorrow i would ban all
00:45:39.860
that stuff but in the meantime you know politics is the art of the possible not the part of the i not the
00:45:44.680
not the art of the ideal and we have to start trying to use the levers of economic statecraft
00:45:50.620
as well to try to get more single income households more men who can provide for the families more women
00:45:55.900
who will then marry those men and then in turn have more children god willing
00:45:58.940
josh where can people find you this has been fascinating and thrilling as always uh let everyone
00:46:06.200
know where they can find you yeah you bet so i'm on x josh underscore hammer instagram is josh b hammer i
00:46:12.460
host two shows actually the josh hammer show and america on trial with josh hammer and i'm also
00:46:18.040
senior counsel at the article three project you can check us out at article three project.org
00:46:22.340
thank you so much josh i want to get back i mean the the thing that's killing me is that you know
00:46:28.380
ever since dobs every election every ballot initiative that we've had where voters are forced
00:46:33.780
to choose between all abortions or no abortions they're choosing all abortions that is what's been
00:46:39.460
so smart about what how president trump has reframed this debate who by the way by the way
00:46:43.880
overturned row right he's the most pro-life president we've ever had bar none period no
00:46:49.120
question about it overturning row no one else could do it he got it done like the next day after being
00:46:55.160
president essentially okay he got this done you have a very tough job to do if you're going to argue
00:46:59.520
that he's not a pro-life president that's first and foremost but we have to change the conversation
00:47:04.080
and the choice that the american people have between all abortions and no abortions and all
00:47:09.660
abortions and some abortions that's how we move the needle i think you know i look at my daughter
00:47:13.840
she's 19 how do you talk to girls about this issue i think you know 15 weeks talking about pain
00:47:20.100
acknowledging that there's a baby that could feel pain and just opening that conversation nationally
00:47:25.500
changes hearts and minds and once you start opening that conversation up then i think you do work
00:47:30.000
back from 15 weeks i want to see uh healthy babies in america and the idea that women kill their
00:47:35.900
babies is heartbreaking to me but when you have grocery prices that are twice as high as they've
00:47:40.320
been before and moms who maybe were trying to be home now are working two jobs because they to make
00:47:44.900
ends meet you know you're not as josh said you're you are not um supporting pro-family policy so i'm
00:47:51.400
excited to see what president trump has to to offer and i'm speaking with him on friday night terry i'm
00:47:56.420
doing a fireside chat i'm really excited about that and that's one of the things i'm going to
00:47:59.820
ask him like what what are pro-child pro-family policies that you think could be created in
00:48:04.680
america to help us to build that future that we want paulette harrow i think that's her name paulette
00:48:11.980
parla paulette harlow sorry i screwed that up 72 year old grandma 72 year old grandma who's sitting in
00:48:21.320
federal prison right now tiffany for two years what was her crime not getting an abortion not not bringing
00:48:28.240
people that are underage without their parents knowing about it to get an abortion across state
00:48:33.060
lines her crime was praying at an abortion clinic in washington dc where they found five dead babies
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in the dumpster we need to be talking about this we need to be going on offense we need to be getting
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to work going where the american people are the american people don't want women in jail of abortion
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so let's talk about the 72 grandma the only person that's in jail over abortion instead of all of the
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radical proposals that are out there that have no chance and let's talk about why women have abortions
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which because it's oftentimes that they don't think they're going to be able to support the baby or have
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the health care that they need and and you know for all the money and effort and time that is spent on
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killing babies we'll be a better america when we start putting more focus on making sure that we
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have healthy babies and thriving kids tiffany uh you got a big conference this week you got a bigger
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mark or actually i think the conference is bigger than the mark i don't know we'll see they're go
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they're both big deals tell us more how can people find out we got a minute 20 left in the show
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yeah so if you're in the area locally i think we still have some tickets left um you can check out
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we have great breakouts as i said on friday big day uh and then interview with president trump friday
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night uh saturday morning is the march for kids and this is coalition building uh i think the right has
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really suffered for a long time for not having people coming together and really you know not competing
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