Bannon's War Room - WarRoom Battleground EP 703： Trump Reinvigorates The Job Market; For The Last Five Years Net Job Growth Has Gone To Non Native Born People

00:00:00.000 be an incredibly noisy report, not just because of that large benchmark revision, but also the

00:00:05.660 fact that the household survey, which is being revised right now based on census data, unfortunately

00:00:11.560 is also really problematic. The Census Bureau has already said they've had a lot of problems

00:00:16.940 with their surveys recently, that the data is less reliable than usual. And so I have really

00:00:23.700 very little faith, frankly, that these numbers are not going to see further revisions in the future.

00:00:28.260 The other thing to keep in mind, since there was a comment about the Biden administration and this

00:00:32.040 bringing some kind of closure, this benchmark only goes through March of last year. In other words,

00:00:38.380 you still have a whole nother three quarters that are eventually going to get benchmark.

00:00:42.280 And again, if you look at the most recent data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics,

00:00:46.200 that points to a huge overestimation of job growth in the second quarter of last year. And the Federal

00:00:51.240 Reserve Bank of Philadelphia is saying the same thing. Their estimate for the benchmark is that

00:00:56.160 you're going to lose about 800,000 jobs. And that's just for a quarter, not for a whole year.

00:01:01.220 So this idea that somehow the numbers are in the books and they're never going to be revised again,

00:01:05.980 I think we have to realize that that's just not going to be the case. Now, going forward,

00:01:10.520 you know, one of the things we have to consider is the fact that unfortunately, the labor market is

00:01:15.360 still facing a lot of headwinds, not the least of which has to do with the fact that this nation is

00:01:20.240 buried so deeply in debt. And much of the hiring that we have seen over the last several years has

00:01:25.860 been based on taking on that debt. That debt obviously is going to have to eventually get

00:01:31.140 repaid. And if it's not repaid in terms of what you might call a nominal repayment,

00:01:36.140 it'll still be repaid in real terms. In other words, more inflation. A lot of the government debt

00:01:41.600 that was issued over the last several years has already been paid for. It's been paid for by that

00:01:46.780 hidden tax of inflation. David, my favorite stat, with the exception of January of 1970,

00:01:53.760 the unemployment rate is lower today than it was for every single month of the 70s,

00:01:59.200 the 80s and the 90s. Wow. Yeah, it's really good. Amazing. That is amazing. I would not have known

00:02:05.740 that. And you know what's even more impressive? It came, the move in the unemployment rate lower

00:02:09.280 actually came as the participation rate increased. So more people in the labor market to 62.6%. It makes it

00:02:15.720 even more impressive that we got to drop.

00:02:20.700 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on

00:02:29.060 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people had a belly full

00:02:36.380 of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop

00:02:40.060 that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go to share

00:02:44.420 the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:52.600 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,

00:02:59.560 this country will be saved.

00:03:02.540 Okay, it's Friday, 7 February, Year of the Lord, 2025. EJ and Tony joins us hot off of his

00:03:18.940 hitting his marks on CNBC. EJ, I want to start with the labor announcement. You've been at the

00:03:25.540 forefront of these numbers are cooked. What do you think now? President Trump's in charge. Talk to me

00:03:29.580 about it. Well, unfortunately, Steve, a lot of the revisions that we've seen, people are taking,

00:03:40.840 essentially, they have the wrong takeaway from this info. You were just hearing from a couple

00:03:45.560 of people on CNBC talking about the unemployment rate, talking about the labor force participation,

00:03:52.600 talking about the number of people listed as employed versus unemployed. This is all coming

00:03:57.840 from survey data, which relies on Census Bureau data. In other words, we survey a bunch of households

00:04:04.560 and we ask them how many people live here, how many people are working, not working, looking for work

00:04:09.580 versus just giving up, looking for work, etc. But then once we get those numbers, we then essentially

00:04:14.340 have to multiply them by how big we think the overall population is. And we use Census Bureau

00:04:19.360 data to do that. The problem is the Census Bureau data is not reliable, not at all. In fact,

00:04:25.060 the Census Bureau has already admitted that they really botched the last couple estimations,

00:04:30.960 so much so that it even affected congressional apportionment. In other words, states like Texas

00:04:37.000 and Florida should actually have more seats in Congress today than they do. So that, I think,

00:04:42.780 helps put into some context what's going on here behind the scenes with these numbers. And also,

00:04:49.400 one other real important thing to remember is the fact that these statistics do not distinguish

00:04:55.600 between people who are here legally or illegally. And the Bureau of Labor Statistics even admits that

00:05:01.240 on their own website. Steve, that's something you and I have talked about quite a few times in the past.

00:05:06.300 And so because these numbers are so inflated right now, whether it's the bad readings from the Census Bureau

00:05:13.140 or whether it's getting illegal aliens factored in here, whatever the case may be, this doesn't

00:05:18.680 actually represent, I think, in a – well, let me put it this way. I don't think this is a real

00:05:25.340 representation of how the average American is feeling, of how the average American family

00:05:30.560 has been doing the last several years.

00:05:34.600 Yeah, CNBC, they're like cheerleaders. They just take it and think and say, hey, this is the greatest,

00:05:39.040 lowest, you know, unemployment rate ever. Everybody ought to be ecstatic. People, I – you know,

00:05:44.560 the working class people, people got two or three jobs. We have right now, one of our sponsors is a

00:05:49.880 credit card, you know, restructuring business. And they say their business is on – is gangfire

00:05:54.840 because – is on fire because they said there's more credit card debt than ever and credit card debt

00:06:00.300 that's, you know, non-performing for the reason that people aren't making enough money and they run up

00:06:07.780 huge credit card debts. Let's go back. I want to break this down piece by piece because you've

00:06:12.020 been the expert of this. And, you know, we don't know how much longer we have you for to – till

00:06:17.280 you actually end up going into the government and then we can't get our mitts on you on a regular

00:06:21.540 basis. I want to go back to the census data. Tell the American people, tell the Warren Posse audience,

00:06:27.620 what's the problem with the census data and has it particularly manifest itself in congressional

00:06:32.320 representation in Texas and Florida, maybe other places. Those two, because you're hearing now,

00:06:37.100 oh, a 2030, I'll set this right, which is five years from now, that given the flow of people

00:06:42.540 to the south and southwest, they're looking for red states to live in because it's ruled by common 0.97

00:06:49.420 sense and not by left-wing progressive diktat. But even now it's messed up. Texas should have had a

00:06:56.520 couple of three more and Florida should have had a couple of three more. So walk me through the

00:06:59.540 problems with the census data first.

00:07:01.100 Well, unfortunately, Steve, some of this traces all the way back to 2020 when it was just very,

00:07:08.000 very difficult to actually get census workers to go door to door and to get a realistic count of

00:07:13.160 people. And so we had to rely much too much on estimations, which is not the point of a census,

00:07:19.320 right? Surveys make estimations. Surveys look at a small group of people and then they extrapolate

00:07:24.800 from that what the general population is like. A census is supposed to actually provide a survey of the

00:07:30.680 entire population. Sadly, that's not what happened. But then in subsequent years, the Census Bureau

00:07:37.060 makes continuous estimates literally every single year to try to measure how much population does

00:07:44.500 each state actually have. And to your point, Steve, many red states like Texas, like Florida,

00:07:50.820 were undercounted. Meanwhile, several blue states, large blue states, Illinois, New York, California,

00:07:56.740 were overcounted. In other words, states that are heavily Democrat have too many seats in Congress

00:08:03.380 right now than they actually should. And several of these states that are overwhelmingly red have too 0.51

00:08:09.460 few. And so this quite literally, especially today when you have a House of Representatives that is so

00:08:15.300 closely divided, these kinds of mistakes can literally determine the apportionment, or I should say

00:08:21.420 the balance of power in Congress. Because when you're talking about, again, a balance of power

00:08:27.280 that's only a couple of seats off, change in apportionment of a couple of seats is literally

00:08:31.700 the difference. So now how does that impact, again, what we're talking about here today with

00:08:35.960 the jobs numbers? Essentially, these jobs reports are composed of two different surveys. One is a

00:08:41.980 survey of business, and that's where we get things like the total number of jobs or the number of

00:08:46.060 non-farm payrolls. The other is a survey of households, and that's where we get statistics

00:08:50.080 like the unemployment rate. And the problem here is that things like the unemployment rate,

00:08:55.260 the labor force participation rate, the total number of people employed, etc., all of the stats that

00:09:00.420 come from the household survey right now are being skewed. And they are unfortunately being,

00:09:06.180 I think, overinflated. What's interesting is despite this overinflation from the household survey,

00:09:12.460 there still is a huge gap that remains between the household survey, the number of people reporting

00:09:17.940 that they're employed, as well as the number of jobs in the country. Now, part of that has to do

00:09:22.920 with the fact that a lot of people are being double counted, something that, again, we've talked about

00:09:27.240 on your show quite a bit in the past under the Biden administration, and you just mentioned it with

00:09:31.760 credit cards. People are having to take a second job or even a third job to try to make ends meet

00:09:37.180 because of the cost of living under Biden. It went up so dramatically, and now they had to put so

00:09:42.680 much of their, so many of their expenses onto credit cards. Now they're trying to dig themselves

00:09:46.300 out of that credit card debt. So you end up getting double counting because when you survey businesses

00:09:51.760 and you ask how many people are actually working at your business, the business owner doesn't say

00:09:57.160 anything about if their employee has a second job. The business owner might not even know if any of

00:10:02.000 their employees have a second job. And so to get those types of statistics, we look at the

00:10:06.140 household survey, and sure enough, it shows the number of people with multiple jobs continuously

00:10:11.080 hitting record high after record high. Because again, people just literally can't make ends meet

00:10:17.460 in this economy today.

00:10:22.060 I want to go back to, I tried to get this out in 20, for the 2020, we put a provision in there to

00:10:29.740 the Commerce Department and held up in court. But then later, President Trump has talked about people

00:10:34.300 around him about not having illegal aliens counted in the census. Because we said at the time,

00:10:39.240 Stephen Miller and myself said, it's going to skew everything, congressional representation,

00:10:42.660 but also when you think about labor participation rates, all of it, eventually people, particularly

00:10:47.640 the Secretary of the Commerce at the time, got weak, kneed, and kind of cratered. How big a deal is

00:10:52.840 that? Talk to me about illegal aliens being counted in this, in other foreign nationals,

00:10:58.460 rather than having a true count of American citizens.

00:11:03.020 It's a great question, Steve. And one of the ways I think that you can really see the impact here

00:11:07.980 is when you start breaking down those who say that they are employed in these surveys,

00:11:13.100 and you look at whether or not these people are native-born Americans or foreign-born workers.

00:11:17.840 And what we see is that, you know, with this last report, it's the end of the Biden administration.

00:11:22.400 So essentially, the Biden administration's legacy, if you want to call it that,

00:11:26.120 has been the number of native-born Americans is literally right about the same as it was

00:11:31.160 before the pandemic. So here we are five years later, and literally no progress for Americans.

00:11:37.460 And that's really odd when you consider the fact that this latest census data, if we are to believe

00:11:42.460 it, shows a pretty sizable increase in the native-born population. So it's very, very difficult to say

00:11:49.700 that there hasn't been a tremendous negative impact with all this illegal immigration. So if we then

00:11:55.720 look at not native-born Americans, but now foreign-born workers, we see literally all of the net job 0.94

00:12:01.340 growth since the pandemic has gone to that cohort. Again, not native-born Americans. You wonder

00:12:07.640 why were Americans so angry in November at the Biden administration that they refused to vote for

00:12:13.740 Kamala Harris and voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump, despite the fact that they were told month

00:12:18.580 after month that, oh, the labor market is great, we have all these jobs. Maybe it's because native-born 1.00

00:12:23.420 Americans weren't actually the ones getting the jobs. And we also found out with this report, too,

00:12:28.620 that the number of jobs that we thought we had in the economy, it was revised down every single month

00:12:34.320 for 2024. The average monthly downward revision was about 620, 630,000. So again, it just goes to show

00:12:42.720 you just how overstated these numbers have been. Again, something we've talked about quite a lot on your

00:12:48.880 show, and for not just months at this point, but years.

00:12:54.260 Okay, I want to go back to that. You're saying that the restatement was average 600,000

00:12:59.540 jobs per month for a while under the Biden regime?

00:13:04.760 Right. So if we look at the level of jobs every single month, each of those levels was revised down

00:13:11.220 every single month for 2024. And if you average out how much, how large each of those revisions were,

00:13:17.340 some were 500-something thousand, some were over 700,000. But the average downward revision for

00:13:23.460 the jobs level was a little over 600,000, about 620 or 630,000. So again, it points to the fact that

00:13:33.620 the economy was really, especially the labor market, was never as good as the Biden administration led

00:13:39.960 everyone to believe. And you can only tell people, I think, so many times, don't believe your lying eyes,

00:13:46.120 don't believe your empty wallets. At some point, people say enough is enough, and they just don't

00:13:51.140 believe the tripe they're being fed anymore.

00:13:55.620 How can the Bureau of Labor Statistics, I mean, is that by accident or design? How can they be

00:14:02.640 consistently that bad and not have some sort of correcting algorithm or correcting management, 0.97

00:14:08.240 sit around the table and say, guys, this is ridiculous. We can't keep doing it. Are they doing it on a

00:14:13.080 purpose? Are they that incompetent? Or are the rules and regulations of how they have to count 0.92

00:14:17.760 kind of these general surveys? In other words, is it a process issue? Is it a competence issue?

00:14:23.240 Or is it just malfeasance, sir?

00:14:26.380 Great, great question, Steve. And I think there's an important distinction to make here. So on the one

00:14:30.860 side, in terms of that first part of your question, how did we get here? How are the numbers this

00:14:35.660 bad? A lot of that is procedural. A lot of that is there are things that changed in the economy after

00:14:42.560 COVID, and there's no doubt about that, right? And unfortunately, previous assumptions, previous

00:14:48.320 methods, methodologies, et cetera, no longer work well today. And that is pretty clear to see in the

00:14:56.460 math, right? We can go into how these matrices are constructed and everything and the different

00:15:01.640 assumptions that are baked into the models, and we can actually find the problems, right? So there's

00:15:06.840 nothing, there's no mystery there. The real mystery is why nothing has been done about it, because these

00:15:13.040 problems really first started becoming evident about March of 2022, right? There were some signs before

00:15:19.700 that, but you can easily dismiss that as noise. But once we get to about March of 2022, it becomes very,

00:15:25.520 very clear there are significant problems. And then it becomes a question of, all right, why is it that over

00:15:30.160 the last almost three years now, nothing has been done to correct these underlying issues, right?

00:15:36.600 And from that clip you played earlier, this idea that somehow these big downward revisions are over,

00:15:43.400 I'm sorry, that's just not the case. The next annual benchmark is going to cover the last three

00:15:49.920 quarters of last year, as well as the first quarter of this year. In other words, it's going to cover from

00:15:55.020 March of 2024 through March of this year. And unfortunately, the best data that we have

00:16:01.440 available right now shows that that benchmark is going to be another huge downward revision. And

00:16:08.280 three quarters of that is going to fall under the Biden administration. So yet again, we're not really

00:16:14.540 going to have a good sense of how bad things have been for literally another 12 months. And I'm sorry,

00:16:21.440 but that's just inexcusable. In an age like today, where it is so much easier to collect data,

00:16:27.600 especially on a large scale, you can't tell me that that we can't do a better job. I'm sorry,

00:16:33.620 but we certainly can.

00:16:37.260 Okay, I have two, there's two things that change. Number one, I've got Donald John Trump's the

00:16:41.440 president. And number two, Elon Musk has got Doge. How, I mean, how can this continue to go on

00:16:48.440 with President Trump's going to, he's a numbers guy, he's going to want accurate numbers,

00:16:52.540 no matter how bad they look, or how great they look, he wants us to actually see what reality is.

00:16:57.560 What is your recommendation? Now, which a clip will get to the president, if he's not watching live.

00:17:04.220 And I understand he's a little tied up today down in Mar-a-Lago. But how, what would be your

00:17:09.540 recommendation to Elon Musk team, number one, and number two, to the president of the United States to

00:17:13.620 sort this mess out? Because whether they're good numbers or bad numbers, or whether the numbers are

00:17:18.360 favorable to President Trump's policies or not, he wants to see accurate numbers. So how do we get

00:17:23.400 back that we can actually see what's going on as manifested in the math?

00:17:28.420 Steve, another great question. And I think you're absolutely right that what the president wants

00:17:33.040 fundamentally are the right numbers, whether they're good or bad. Because if you don't start

00:17:37.540 from good data, then you're never going to be able to solve the problem, right? It becomes garbage in,

00:17:42.600 garbage out. So, all right, to your question, what do we do from here? I think what you need is for 0.90

00:17:47.520 Elon Musk's team, what they're doing at places like USAID, they need to go and do that at the

00:17:52.680 Bureau of Labor Statistics. They need to go through that organization with a fine-tooth comb, and they

00:17:58.140 need to figure out what does everyone there do? Because clearly, there must be a lot of folks who are

00:18:02.920 either doing nothing or they're doing counterproductive work in order to produce so many, frankly, garbage

00:18:08.700 reports so frequently. So that's number one. Number two is, I think we, again, need to re-evaluate

00:18:16.120 the procedures, the processes, how we not only collect, but how we essentially then calculate

00:18:22.960 these numbers, and then how we disseminate them. Because the old way of doing things just isn't

00:18:28.420 working. This is all in drastic need of a major, major update.

00:18:33.000 This is over, Treasury doesn't do this. That's Commerce, correct? Commerce Department,

00:18:39.780 the Bureau of Labor Statistics is part of the Commerce Department.

00:18:43.680 Labor Department, okay.

00:18:44.420 Labor Department, actually.

00:18:45.140 Oh, Commerce does the census. Commerce does the census. Labor. Labor Department. Have you had a chance to

00:18:50.140 brief the new Secretary of Labor?

00:18:53.560 Steve, I have not, but I would be more than happy to do so. I am shocked at the number of people I talk to

00:18:58.920 who are pretty high up in different levels of government who don't understand, again, how these

00:19:05.740 surveys, how these reports are conducted, how they're assembled, how they're disseminated. It's

00:19:11.000 really, really troubling that, again, we just don't have enough people in positions of power who have

00:19:16.820 a good grasp on what's going on under them, ostensibly in their name.

00:19:21.320 One thing I want to get and make sure I understand it fully, because I said on the morning show,

00:19:28.940 there's 70 million men in working, working-age men not in the labor force today, and that is white,

00:19:35.620 African-American, and Hispanic. Am I accurate? Is that number, what is the labor force participation,

00:19:43.540 right? But how many actual able-bodied seamen are not in the labor force today, sir?

00:19:49.900 Steve, it's a great, great question. Now, again, I would say take some of these numbers with a grain

00:19:55.660 of salt, because you're going to, from the bad census data that we were just talking about earlier,

00:20:01.540 right, that's going to skew some of these numbers. So I'll give you a range here that we're looking at

00:20:06.760 somewhere between six and nine million men who could be in the labor force today, who could be

00:20:12.260 doing productive work, providing for themselves and potentially families, but they're not doing so.

00:20:17.420 Now, why on earth is that happening? A couple of different reasons, one of which is the fact that

00:20:21.640 the Biden administration has expanded welfare so much. Under the previous administration,

00:20:26.980 they not only increased how much you could get in welfare, expanded it in that sense,

00:20:31.180 but also expanded it in terms of who is eligible. And they reduced things like work requirements,

00:20:37.020 so it had a whole lot of very negative effects, right? Art Laffer has said countless times,

00:20:42.560 if you want more of something, subsidize it. If you want less of something, tax it. Well,

00:20:47.300 they have been taxing work, and they have been subsidizing non-work. So it should be no surprise

00:20:53.240 that you get fewer people working, and you get more people not working. That's exactly what we saw

00:20:58.220 under the Biden admin. It would be great if Trump could roll back a lot of that. The other big component

00:21:04.380 of this has to do with illegal immigration. You know, we all start our careers, no matter where we end up,

00:21:09.740 we all start our careers as low-skill or no-skill labor. And when you flood the country with illegal 0.98

00:21:16.460 immigrants who mostly have no skills or low skills, then what ends up happening is that cohort, 1.00

00:21:23.500 because of the increase in labor supply, the price of labor goes down, what we call the price of labor

00:21:28.720 wages. And so Americans, when they're first trying to start their careers, are being met with this very

00:21:34.220 unhealthy labor market of incredibly low real or inflation-adjusted wages. And again, a big portion

00:21:40.980 of that has to do with illegal immigration over the last four years. And because of that massive

00:21:46.440 disincentive to work, right, you're going to have to start your career essentially earning absolutely

00:21:50.960 nothing, even less than you might consider a normal start to your career, a normal first job.

00:21:57.020 The consequence of that is a lot of people say, forget it, I'm not going to do that,

00:22:00.460 and they sit home on the couch instead. And that includes, again, a lot of these young, able-bodied

00:22:05.840 men.

00:22:09.460 Last question. Net job growth, you're saying net job growth over how long has included,

00:22:16.680 all the net job growth is going to non-Native-born folks, not Native-born American citizen.

00:22:23.040 How long has that gone on for?

00:22:26.140 That's from January of 2020 all the way through January of 2025. Now, the reason we go January to

00:22:34.020 January instead of February 2020 to January 2025, since February is technically the last month

00:22:39.940 before the pandemic, we want to go from one month to the same month in another year. The reason for that

00:22:45.500 is these data are not seasonally adjusted. In other words, there are very big swings in some of these

00:22:51.540 data sets that happen simply because of seasonality, right? A lot of Native-born Americans,

00:22:57.060 for example, take extra jobs in November or December around the holidays, and a lot of them

00:23:02.400 then get laid off in January. You see another surge in employment among Native-born Americans every July

00:23:09.440 because a lot of college kids come home from their spring semester and they get a summer job.

00:23:14.460 And then a lot of them then lose that job in August or September when they go back to school.

00:23:18.900 So you don't want to necessarily look at the month-to-month change. That can be very unreliable,

00:23:23.780 and you might be looking at seasonality trends. So we go from January of 2020 through January of 2025,

00:23:29.580 and there you see almost no change at all for Native-born Americans. So all of the net job 0.99

00:23:35.420 growth that we've seen, again, over the last five years has gone to foreign-born workers.

00:23:40.700 I want to repeat that for the audience before I let you go. You're saying for the last five years

00:23:48.140 that the net job growth, that means lost jobs and increased jobs, that all the net job growth

00:23:56.160 has gone to non-Native-born people. Now, American citizens in the last five years have really

00:24:03.460 participated at zero in the net job growth. That's right, Steve. And again, I want to

00:24:10.460 emphasize something that we mentioned earlier, and we've mentioned on previous episodes of your show

00:24:14.520 too, the fact that the Bureau of Labor Statistics admits, they put it in literally every single one

00:24:19.740 of these monthly jobs reports, they admit that that category includes an unknown number of illegal

00:24:26.420 aliens. And so this idea that somehow there is no competition among foreign workers who come here

00:24:33.120 legally or illegally. There's no competition among them and Native-born Americans. I'm sorry, 0.99

00:24:38.280 but that's just not the case. For crying out loud, it's called the labor market. The word market is

00:24:43.200 right there in the name. It has competition.

00:24:49.720 It's unbelievable. This is where you see that kind of seething anger that's right below the surface

00:24:53.860 is summarizing that statistic. And it's not an aberration. It's not one year. It's not 18 months.

00:24:59.380 It's not six months. It's five years. E.J. and Tony, you are quite brilliant. I'm glad CNBC's giving

00:25:05.160 you plenty of airtime, a squawk box in the shows right afterwards. Where do people get you? Where

00:25:11.120 to get your website with all your writings, which are brilliant in your social media? And you should

00:25:15.540 know, E.J., if you want to keep up on economics, his Twitter feed is pretty informative.

00:25:20.140 Thank you, Steve. Best place to find me is going to be right there on Twitter. And the handle is

00:25:26.280 at real E.J. and Tony. Just do me a favor, everyone. Look for the blue checkmark because

00:25:30.660 there's there's now a bunch of crypto scammers who are impersonating the account.

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00:25:41.720 E.J., you're a you're a national treasurer. Thank you for being on here, brother.

00:25:45.240 Thank you, Steve. Pleasure's all mine. Of all the guys, men and women, we've gotten into the

00:25:52.200 administration, a very high priority for us is E.J. and Tony. President Trump and the team

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00:30:40.420 need you healthy. Pressure on in every possible way. But that really hit those cartels in the pocketbook

00:30:48.500 like you wouldn't believe. They were making sometimes more money than they were on drugs out

00:30:54.180 of that. And now that's gone. The only thing they have left now is fentanyl and drugs. And now you

00:31:00.560 got Mexican military guys getting right in between them. And back of them are the U.S. Marines with,

00:31:08.520 you know, Reapers and all kinds of surveillance stuff. So I think things are going to go kinetic.

00:31:13.800 I have a source that's a really good source. I'm not going to obviously say it is. It's

00:31:18.800 telling me that there is tabletop planning right now for the immediate future to using U.S. intelligence

00:31:27.320 and certain Mexican units to go kinetic on narcotics depots, on fentanyl labs, and places like that.

00:31:38.060 When that happens, I mean, get ready. There's going to be fireworks. That's just that these cartels

00:31:43.240 are money-hungry. They're brazen. They're incredibly well-armed from, you know, making

00:31:50.240 billions and billions of dollars on the human smuggling for four years. What do you think

00:31:54.280 they did with that money? They invested it in arms. And they are armed up to the teeth. And they're

00:32:00.300 not going to just sit back there and lose their drug business. They're not without a fight.

00:32:05.500 So I anticipate some fireworks. Military, our troops, U.S. military at the border with weapons,

00:32:12.820 using weapons if need be. They need to protect themselves. But the cartels, again, let me give

00:32:18.360 the cartels a warning. If you are a border patrol agent or a soldier, the whole world is going to

00:32:23.220 come down to you. President Trump is a strong president. He is strong enough and he has the

00:32:29.580 ability to wipe them off the face of the earth. Now, that's the reason they were called a terrorist

00:32:34.280 organization, designated terrorist organization, because they've killed more Americans with

00:32:37.900 their fatten on their drugs than any terrorist organization in the world. They are now designated

00:32:42.200 terrorists. Do not harm our troops or President Trump or bring hell rain down. And he has the 0.98

00:32:48.800 ability to wipe them off the face of the earth. They can claim they're a pretty tough organization,

00:32:52.460 the cartels, and they are. But they're not stronger than the power of President Trump.

00:32:58.080 I want to tie it back to E.J. and Tony. Remember, there's no net job growth over the last five years.

00:33:04.280 For American citizen. Embrace that for a second.

00:33:08.500 Net job growth over five years. With the Biden regime putting on, I think, six or seven trillion

00:33:17.780 dollars on the national debt. We're running two trillion dollar deficits every year. Two trillion

00:33:21.740 dollar deficits in all those years. And net job growth did not go to American citizens.

00:33:29.820 How does that happen? American citizens, 60 percent of the American citizens can't put their hands on 0.54

00:33:35.600 a thousand dollars in cash, 60 percent of the households. And what Holman and Benzman are telling

00:33:41.780 you is not simply the fentanyl. We've got to make sure that the country's hermetically sealed.

00:33:48.720 You can't have any more. You can't have any more invasions of illegal aliens. You've got to stop the 1.00

00:33:53.260 invasions. You have to then deport all the people to get wages back right. You then have to stop the 0.96

00:34:00.560 scam on all the visas, all the phony visa programs that let indentured servants, particularly from South 1.00

00:34:08.560 Asia, who are exploited, the exploitation of those folks in here to compete with American labor.

00:34:15.200 Over the last five years, given the fact that we ran up trillions of dollars of national debt

00:34:23.160 and have deficits of two trillion dollars a year, which American citizens have to pay back.

00:34:30.980 You're the ones paying the interest on it.

00:34:34.840 Not no net job growth for American citizens. Embrace that.

00:34:38.880 That's the scam. That's the con.

00:34:43.840 And finally, President Trump doesn't designate the cartels as as terrorist organizations to allow

00:34:50.400 us to go to all types of things about stopping their financing, but particularly ability to go

00:34:55.960 kinetic. And the Mexican military is going to be part of this. But you heard Benzman right there.

00:35:01.240 They're working on right now. And you heard Holman and you saw the in Zero Hedge the other day.

00:35:06.220 We sent the almost, I guess, like the old AWACS aircraft down, the spy aircraft, like a platform

00:35:12.400 down Baja, searching out what the cartels are doing over in the mainland.

00:35:17.600 And it's going to go kinetic because these cartels have to be broken to stop the fentanyl,

00:35:21.640 stop the human trafficking, but also send the signal there's a new sheriff in town and we're

00:35:26.160 not going to just let our country be invaded anymore. This is outrageous. You're left with the debt

00:35:31.740 that's caused inflation. You have to pay back the crowding out. So the entrepreneurs like Mike

00:35:37.160 Lindell can't get capital, the crowding out of capital. And if it had net job growth of, I don't

00:35:42.960 know, 10 percent for the American citizens, it'd still be tough to rationalize. But you could kind

00:35:49.240 of make an argument, well, this was to build job, a job force for American citizens. But it's the exact

00:35:54.240 opposite. 100 percent of net job growth in the last five years have gone to non-citizens, not people,

00:36:01.840 not native-born Americans. I'm not a nativist. But working class whites, blacks, Hispanics deserve a

00:36:12.060 shot here. And they don't need to compete against the world in their own country. In their own country, 0.92

00:36:16.800 they can compete against the world in their manufacturing, what their labor rates are,

00:36:19.640 productivity rates, all of it. The same with the kids coming to these engineering schools. They can

00:36:24.160 compete with the world in the world. They shouldn't have to compete with the world for a job, particularly

00:36:29.840 for an entry-level tech job in their own country. It's not what their grandparents built this country

00:36:34.820 for, their great-grandparents, their parents. This is an obscenity. It's the twisted logic, the twisted

00:36:41.060 logic of the people that run this country. And Holman and Benson are telling you that

00:36:48.880 this thing with the cartels could go kinetic. I think you have to very quickly cut them off from

00:36:55.460 every source of financing and banking and use the Swiss system. You have to choke them down. Eventually,

00:37:00.500 you have to choke down the Chinese Communist Party. But eventually, I think you're going to have to drop

00:37:04.640 the hammer. And I believe Mexico is going to be at the tip of that. I think President Chambon has been

00:37:09.320 different than particularly her mentor, who I think was kind of owned by the cartels. She sent 10,000 troops

00:37:15.940 to the border. We've sent troops to the border. I think something's going to happen. I think they're

00:37:20.280 going to lead the way. But hey, since it's a terrorist organization, it gives us wide latitude

00:37:24.580 for paramilitary operations. You think that sounds turbulent enough? You saw the markets today with

00:37:32.340 President Trump even talking about reciprocity on tariffs. And he's talking that because of the

00:37:36.380 Japanese, the meeting with the Japanese. You saw the markets all over the place. This is why

00:37:40.760 more than ever, we lay out the macro case all the time. We lay out the geopolitics. More than ever,

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00:38:48.420 Mike Lindell, big day. Faith office announced the Pam Bondi signed the task force on making sure that

00:38:57.480 Christianity is no longer attacked by what taxpayers pay for a government, and they end up attacking

00:39:03.220 Christians. It's ridiculous. You've got, you've done the cross. Talk to me about that. Your faith, 1.00

00:39:09.200 what the cross shows today being kind of the culmination of 48 hours, national prayer breakers

00:39:13.940 yesterday, of President Trump's support of Christianity.

00:39:18.800 Absolutely. And, and Steve, you know, it's kind of funny when the back of the day, everybody,

00:39:24.000 when I was my only call center and I, I wasn't even saved yet. I hadn't completely surrendered my

00:39:30.340 life to Jesus Christ, but I always wear my cross. And I'd have people calling out going,

00:39:35.360 you're just using your cross to sell pillows. And I, I said, no, I always wear my cross. And I would

00:39:40.160 literally email them or text them pictures of me wearing my cross when I was in the crack houses,

00:39:46.020 when I used to be an addict. And, and so I always wanted to be that, that person. And I did a full

00:39:52.760 surrender February 18th of 2017, everybody. But, you know, God was always chasing me. And I'll tell

00:40:00.120 you the, you know, what our, what our faith has done these last four years, everybody, when people

00:40:06.580 came up to me all the time and they're saying, Mike, you know, when you spoke at the Rose Garden

00:40:11.060 in 2020, you said, God has given us grace for such a time as this. And they go, this sure doesn't feel

00:40:17.440 like grace. Well, you know what, the last four years, you know, and I kept telling everyone,

00:40:23.380 you know what, God uses all things for good. And that those who believe and look what's happening

00:40:28.680 now, the manifestation where, you know, that the above, of the four years of it, and even longer

00:40:34.500 than that, this, this spiritual battle of epic proportions, biblical proportion, and to see

00:40:40.700 things like, you know, Pam, what an awesome job. When you said before, Steve, too, I want to bring this

00:40:45.540 up. You said, you talked about, you know, the illegals and the cartels, you know, my recovery

00:40:52.460 network that that's being attacked now, a Christian network. This is all, you know, all the drugs and 1.00

00:40:57.900 people that are on drugs and stuff and the fentanyl that poured into our country. But one of the things

00:41:02.440 everybody, when we, when I talked to, when we were doing our flipping Democrat program and we were in

00:41:08.340 Chicago, the number one thing there was the illegals taking their jobs. And also even about the,

00:41:14.760 the fentanyl pouring in the people that had died from the cartels. So, you know, two things, all these

00:41:21.220 problems getting solved now, or at least, at least the doors getting shut on. You know, God's allowing

00:41:28.800 to shut doors that no man can open and open doors that no man can shut. We're coming into a new, amazing

00:41:35.960 time in history for, for Christianity, for, and for people and for, um, um, it's, I'm so excited,

00:41:44.520 Steve, the things, every day is a new excitement.

00:41:49.460 Um, talk to me about, talk to me about, uh, I mean, you've done so much work on, on, on the stealing of

00:41:54.640 the 2020. You were one of the first guys that was providential, quite frankly, that it was stolen

00:41:59.060 because we see much more. Uh, how has this been for you? Not just, I know the campaign, you did

00:42:04.400 such work, you worked like crazy. You've now had a chance to spend more time with the business,

00:42:08.540 but what is, what are these first couple of weeks meant to, meant to you? The days of thunder?

00:42:13.620 Well, it's been, you know, people say, Mike, you've been vindicated, you've been vindicated,

00:42:17.540 you know, and, and you guys, for me, my big goal is to get us to, to secure our election platform.

00:42:24.100 So 2020 never happens again or any other election. We want to have elections, not selections. Our great

00:42:30.900 president wants us to get to a day where we have paper ballots, hand counted, same day voting,

00:42:36.020 uh, voter ID, um, what a concept. Um, so that's where I'm at, Steve. I think it's going to be a lot

00:42:43.360 easier that for my teams to move forward and get to that point before the 2026 elections. And, uh, um,

00:42:51.660 I'm going to be bringing full reports to the White House of what we did the last four years,

00:42:56.460 where our, where our successes are right now. And, uh, you learn all these things. We learned so much

00:43:03.380 the last four years. So I am, it's, for me, it's almost like, um, it's, it's a big relief

00:43:09.560 in that space because there's so many politicians that now that I got to meet over the last four

00:43:15.760 years. Um, you know, I know every, every, you know, most of the attorney generals, most of,

00:43:21.800 a lot of the secretary of states. And there's some, there's actually some good ones that were put into

00:43:26.320 place. Um, we actually have before we had not. Now we have just a handful. And, and then everyone

00:43:32.240 that Donald or the president Trump has been appointing, um, they're all, they're all, well,

00:43:37.840 this one's all for securing elections. This one's over here. They're all for the same thing. We all want,

00:43:42.480 and this is just not just reply. This is all people. People want to have secure elections.

00:43:47.520 And, and, um, you know, so that's where I'm at. And I'm very excited. Um, I feel, um, as we move

00:43:55.160 forward here, we get to CPAC, we're going to do, this is going to be like a relaunch everybody that

00:44:00.100 we're doing. And, uh, uh, in my teams, we're, we're just, uh, we're going to, over the last month,

00:44:06.020 we've just kind of digested all these successes where we, what states we think can get to that point

00:44:11.980 before others. We're also, I'm going to work with our president from the top down,

00:44:16.020 what he can do to get to that great day where we have, um, um, secure elections. Remember,

00:44:22.160 I think it was Obama, uh, deemed our elections critical infrastructure when we got to treat

00:44:27.820 him as such, but there's a lot of things by him doing that, that come into play. Like,

00:44:34.020 hey, maybe you shouldn't have machines made with foreign parts in our elections. There's 1.00

00:44:38.320 a lot of things like that, Steve, that come into play, uh, that we've learned now. And we've got

00:44:43.080 great teams on the ground and, and, um, and then now we have a white house and an administration

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00:46:54.400 Uh, Mike Lindell, thank you so much. Look forward to seeing you at CPAC. It's going to be great. It's

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00:49:19.200 So my point is you're gonna have a great time. CPAC.org. I'll be a, uh, I'll be one of the

00:49:24.640 keynote speakers. I'll give you the time and date on that later, but looking forward to seeing

00:49:29.360 everybody meet and greets, uh, breakout sessions, our entire crew will be back. Everybody from, uh,

00:49:34.800 from, um, uh, Grace Chong, Mo Bannon, Jane Zirkle, whoever hasn't gone in the administration,

00:49:40.480 the great Natalie Winters will be there. Everybody, uh, Birch School. And today the

00:49:44.800 president talked about, talked about tariffs on autos. I told you in the morning show that

00:49:50.640 was going to come up. It did come up. It's a big deal for president Trump. It's a, a very

00:49:54.880 big deal for president Trump. So it came up today. Uh, it's going to be more turbulence,

00:49:58.960 markets kind of all over the place, uh, gold at a near all time highs. It hits an all time high.

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