Stephen K. Bannon and Ben Harnanen discuss Pope Leo XIV's inaugural mass, the results of the Romanian presidential election, and the impact of the Pope s call for unity in the church. Plus, a look at the latest in the Ukraine crisis.
00:12:04.920Answer one of the questions, you know, Vanity, because the media has been covering this, and I, and they've done a good job of covering this.
00:12:12.920They're trying to obviously paint MAGA as a bunch of radicals in the church.
00:12:17.920Like they say we're radicals in politics, but it has been saturation coverage, and Ben has done a great job of walking people through it.
00:12:25.920And so the coverage, and Ben, we ought to make sure we're pushing this out constantly, all the different articles from all the big international newspapers and magazines.
00:12:33.920But Brian, a lot of the people are saying, you know, you've got these ultra nationalists and these nationalists like MAGA and, you know, these other groups they've inspired throughout the world.
00:12:46.920And we understand they're nationalists.
00:13:05.920Well, the core teaching of the church is render unto God what is God's and render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.
00:13:12.920Just because the church is universal in nature, it's universal in the sense that the pope means to be a spiritual leader of the church.
00:13:22.920But when it comes to each individual country, it's up to each individual country to decide for itself how it's going to govern itself.
00:13:30.920The reason we're talking about this on the war room, by the way, for those non-Catholics who are part of the war room posse, is that the pope talks to one and a half billion Catholics around the world.
00:13:41.920Whether it's in Poland or America or anywhere in Europe, he is talking to them.
00:13:48.920And so encouraging Pope Leo to say the right things about sovereignty, individuals, human decency, dignity of the kind that's been broached in communist China.
00:14:03.920All these things matter for all Americans, that you would have someone in Rome who would be opining or giving spiritual guidance to Catholics.
00:14:14.920You know, I think the thrust of my piece is that we have to reject globalism and embrace national sovereignty.
00:14:22.920And that's well within the mandate of the Catholic Church to do so and that each individual country is there to protect the citizens' rights.
00:14:34.920And so the Catholic Church need not be globalist in its outlook and hopefully Pope Leo will not be globalist in its outlook.
00:14:43.920And you can see, I think, in what the Church has done in communist China has really been not merely to harm the individual Catholics in communist China, but to send a signal to the world that if you play nice with the Communist Party, they'll give you a little bit of freedom.
00:15:01.920And that little bit of freedom should make you happy and that should be enough for you.
00:15:05.920And I think it's incumbent upon the Catholic Church to be more aggressive.
00:15:08.920When you talk about the continuity of Leo from Bergoglio, Pope Francis, what break do you want him to make?
00:15:20.920And if he is said so far, I'm in the direct lineage, and he was picked as the wingman because he's only been a cardinal less than two years, he was handpicked by Bergoglio, he went to the dicastery to pick the archbishops to set up the next generation.
00:15:34.800And what two or three things would Brian Kennedy would say, okay, I see, that's where he's actually breaking from Bergoglio, and the trad Catholics should have a level of comfort here that maybe they're correct?
00:15:50.360Well, let me first say, Steve, that I speak as an American.
00:15:53.180I am a Catholic, but I think America first and foremost.
00:15:56.900When it comes to Leo, the one thing he could do immediately is to make public the secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party and what was involved in that secret deal.
00:16:11.820He should then have some kind of process to either repeal it entirely or to reevaluate it after the public has had a chance to see it.
00:16:21.160But the idea that the Catholic Church would be subordinate to the Chinese Communist Party is a disgusting thing.
00:16:31.220The idea that in Communist China you replace the crucifix with a picture of Xi Jinping, it should be offensive not merely to Catholics in China, but to decent people all over the world.
00:16:43.700The second is just this ongoing globalist embrace of open borders, whether it's in the United States or in Europe.
00:16:51.160That is leading to the death of the nation state.
00:16:54.860Thankfully, in America, we have President Trump, who has rejected that, has rebuilt our borders, is in the process of that, and is explaining to the American people why if they don't have borders, they don't have a country.
00:17:08.100Well, pretty soon in Europe, if they don't have borders, they're not going to have Europe.
00:17:12.520They're not going to have the individual countries of Europe.
00:17:15.740London today is ruled by a Muslim mayor.
00:17:18.440How many great cities in England are ruled by Muslim mayors?
00:17:23.160This kind of approach is denigrating not merely Catholicism, but Western civilization more broadly.
00:17:31.740The idea that we're going to have open borders and that's going to be a kind of death cult when it comes to the destruction of Western civilization.
00:17:41.000That seems to me something that Pope Leo should get his mind wrapped around very quickly here.
00:17:48.360Finally, let me say I close that piece in the blaze with the idea of Thomas Jefferson that rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God.
00:17:58.520Now, that seems to me Pope Leo is an American.
00:18:03.200He might embrace the American founder who said that and think about that as he's leading this Catholic church because we're slowly here entering the age of totalitarianism where the Chinese Communist Party is at the forefront.
00:18:17.940And they control not merely their 1.4 billion people, but they have their tentacles around the world promoting their communist way of life everywhere they can.
00:18:29.220And the Catholic church, as one of its many roles, should be standing up against that and be defending the idea of human freedom wherever possible.
00:18:37.680So, Liz, you've got kind of a blockbuster clip you pulled.
00:18:43.700Brian's saying, and I think Ben agrees with me, the first order of business should be to open up and let the world see the secret deal with the Chinese Communist Party and then repudiate it.
00:18:52.940You've got some breaking news on this topic, ma'am.
00:18:56.200Steve, today we find out from the Chinese Cardinal, Cardinal Chao, that Prevost has been to China several times.
00:19:05.980I mean, why weren't we told that beforehand?
00:19:09.500I thought this was a poor Peruvian missionary bishop who has just been appointed cardinal.
00:19:16.700We find he's gone to China several times.
00:19:19.780Did China, the CCP, give their imprimatur to this man as pope?
00:19:25.540And Cardinal Chao said that the new pope, Pope Leo, will follow in the path of Pope Francis in supporting the deal, the secret deal that has caused widespread destruction throughout China, not only through the Catholic church, but also through Christianity.
00:19:49.440You know, American Catholics, Catholics around the world should know if this man has been to China several times, is sympathetic to Chinese rule.
00:20:02.600And the fact that this deal is absolutely the worst possible deal, there is no justification for it.
00:20:13.220It not only must be revealed immediately, day one, week one of this pontificate, but also immediately repealed.
00:20:21.240And it's not just Catholics that are demanding this.
00:20:24.700It's Christians from around the world who have been persecuted because of the China deal with the Vatican.
00:20:31.160And so, I mean, to me, these two on, you know, the day after he's installed, we find out he's been to China, quote unquote, several times, and that he is going to continue to follow in the path of Pope Francis and this disastrous China deal.
00:21:30.440This should have come out in the general congregation.
00:21:33.480His good friend, Cardinal Cupich, if he was aware of this, this should have been disclosed to Catholics around the world.
00:21:40.760So, to me, I guess we've got to continue to roll up our sleeves.
00:21:45.540By the way, fortunately, Brian's article has hit the stands in Italian in Rome by a Vaticanista reporter.
00:21:55.820So, I'm hoping that his powerful article is seen immediately by the Pope and that this gets addressed.
00:22:04.600I guess it's not over until it's over, but this is shocking news, very troubling news.
00:22:12.180This is Francis 2.0, which, Steve, you have said from the very beginning that this pontificate was going to be no different than Francis.
00:22:21.800And on another point, because this is important for Americans, the language of human dignity about immigration is coming out of this pontificate.
00:22:35.000That's code language for open borders.
00:22:37.580And so, we have to be very discerning when we listen to the language of this new pontificate.
00:22:45.820Ben Hornwell, in the due diligence, all the coverage afterwards, the Chinese never got brought up until the Chinese mention it.
00:22:54.240But is Red Bob – how could they not mention the fact that he's been to China several times?
00:23:02.500The Augustinian order, I think, only has 2,300 or 3,000 priests worldwide, monks worldwide, none of them in mainland China, I don't believe.
00:23:12.420Why is he – is this – I call him the Manchurian candidate.
00:23:15.460Is he actually the Manchurian candidate, sir?
00:23:23.100But I want to, if I may, come back and answer for myself the question that you put to Brian Kennedy earlier about the three things to look for.
00:23:31.260Brian mentioned releasing the text of this secret Vatican CCP deal, the text of which is so toxic and neither side has ever released it.
00:23:40.460That's definitely one of the three things to look at.
00:23:42.780I'd also want to throw in, if I may, the liberalisation of the traditional Latin mass known colloquially as the TLM that was unjustly, illegitimately, disgracefully and unacceptably suppressed by Bergoglio, Pope Francis.
00:24:02.060The liberalisation, the re-release of that mass, that liturgy, the ancient liturgy that goes back, the canon of that mass that goes back, I think, to the third century, that will very seriously indicate, I think, to traditionists whether they can trust this man or not.
00:24:19.760The time frame, you know, I put between six and 12 months, but the ball can certainly start rolling on and Leo himself and the Vatican himself can start at least talking about that publicly, the liberalisation of the traditional Latin mass.
00:24:33.360The other thing, Steve, that Pope Leo might want to consider, if he wants to draw a line between himself and his unalamented predecessor, is that he could actually answer the dubia that the cardinals put to Francis, I think, ten questions in all, asking Francis to resolve areas of confusion in his own teaching.
00:24:56.260Francis wasn't able to respond with simple yes or no answers because he was clearly trying to change the church's teaching, couldn't say so publicly because that would make him a heretic and that would give the cardinals the justification to remove him, so he fudged it.
00:25:12.200I know there's an ad break coming up, Steve, but this is absolutely really, really important.
00:25:15.900Leo must respond to these cardinals' dubia and answer them in a way consistent with Catholic tradition.
00:25:26.260Well, he should do it straightforward like in American, just write it in the American language.
00:25:33.040Hang on, I got Kennedy, you're in Harnwell about the church.
00:25:37.740Dave Walsh is going to come in and talk to us about, hey, the Chinese Communist Party, about your electrical equipment, your solar paneling, all of it.
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00:31:29.500Look, I just want to, in the first block, there's a discussion that the Pope, being the head of the,
00:31:35.980he was accused of being the head of the church and then suggested that he might have a globalist perspective.
00:31:43.460Firstly, in terms of, you know, I just say this not to scandalize our evangelical brethren.
00:31:50.700In Catholic theology, the church is the mystical body of Jesus Christ.
00:31:55.860Jesus Christ himself is the head of the church.
00:31:58.560The Pope is simply his representative, if you will, given a certain charism, which is to purify and to keep pure the teaching of the church from the apostles down to the present day.
00:32:14.780Now, you can either accept that or don't accept that.
00:32:17.120That's what the Catholic Church has always taught.
00:32:19.780But the Pope isn't the head of the church.
00:32:21.880The Queen of England, the King of England, George III, is the head of the Church of England.
00:32:27.240But the Pope is not the head of the Catholic Church.
00:32:30.440That is our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.
00:32:33.380Second thing I want to mention in terms of the remit of the Pope, I would sooner suggest that his remit is universal rather than globalist.
00:32:46.380And that word universal is important, especially in Catholic theology.
00:32:49.620The word Catholic from the Greek comes from kataholos, so according to the whole.
00:37:46.360You know, it might have worked in, there's no reason in Catholic theology why that's the case,
00:37:50.780why cardinals exclusively have the role to pick the cardinal.
00:37:54.960It might have worked in the medieval ages when Catholics were basically just hoeing a row in a bog somewhere, illiterate,
00:38:02.200and the only education that took place was in the universities founded by the church for the education of clergy.
00:38:10.520But we're not in the medieval dark ages anymore.
00:38:13.400You often have people who are better educated, more, you know, more aware of things sitting on the pew than the guy in the pulpit giving the homily.
00:38:35.640I say this again and again and again, and I get criticized for this in the media.
00:38:39.640No one actually engages with this point.
00:38:41.960How is it possible that CCP generals have the right to pick Catholic bishops, but you, the Catholic laity, have no say in it because that would be Protestant, right?
00:38:54.960Steve, you and I mentioned, we've been mentioning this for 10 years.
00:38:59.940And I think Brian Kennedy's article hopefully will also bring a bit of attention on to that point.
00:39:06.060So to come back to this argument, it is unacceptable, right?
00:39:10.400The one thing that distinguishes the American philosophy, the American idea, as far as I'm concerned, Steve, and you push this constantly, is this concept of agency.
00:39:19.840People are the protagonists in their own destiny, right?
00:39:24.920The European concept is we're the masters, you're the serfs.
00:39:29.180And people here in Europe buy into that, but it's not an American idea.
00:39:33.780And there's no reason why the American church should be shoehorned into going along with this.
00:39:39.160Look how strong the Protestant movement is, the Protestant churches are in the United States, and look how bad the institutional monolithic monopoly of the Catholic churches in comparison.
00:39:53.460The Protestants have understood something, they have intuited something about what works with evangelization and spreading the gospel.
00:40:01.600And the Catholic church is behind the ball on this game, and it needs to get ahead of the ball.
00:40:08.640We should be learning from the Protestants on this point alone, right?
00:40:12.380If you want a healthy, vibrant church community, you need to involve the laity, because all the bishops and the cardinals have done over the last 80 years is let the faithful down.
00:40:23.600Ben, where do they go on your social media?
00:40:28.480You're going to have all these articles up, which are voluminous, and it will begin a great conversation we need to have and need to push to use our agency.
00:40:36.760Steve, I'm on Getter, and I do have, as Steve was mentioning, a few articles at the top of my feed.
00:40:43.640I strongly recommend The Posse go and look at them.
00:40:46.740Some of the thoughts I've been explaining on the show are there contained in more detail in various interviews.
00:40:52.100Get at my social media platform of choice, at Harnwell, which is my surname.
00:41:00.000I don't have time for the call open for Dave Walsh.
00:41:01.780Let me go right to Dave Walsh to talk about the Chinese Communist Party.
00:41:04.280Talk to me about this, what this Reuters story, what's Reuters reporting.
00:41:08.680Sir, you know, we had a year ago the head of the FBI at the time said the number one threat to the United States, he thought, besides domestic extremism, was devices the Chinese Communist Party had put in infrastructure that they were selling into the United States, particularly energy infrastructure.
00:41:25.680Well, a Reuters report, not the Gateway Pundit, a defender of the elitist energy theocracy, Reuters, has come out with a story last week that both in the U.K. and the U.S., officials have now found in inverters, that's the apparatus associated with a solar farm and other equipment, mainly solar farms that convert and wind farms, DC to usable, efficient AC current, so that that current can be channeled into the electrical system.
00:41:54.640Those devices, those devices, in some cases, have backdoors programmed into them, allowing control and or shutoff from remote sites such as China, where they're all made, where they are all made, inverters, battery storage, as well as thin film PV, 87% of all that is made in China.
00:42:17.060It appears now that a sampling of the inverters tested for these backdoor devices have proven that they're included, a.k.a. the ability to control a solar farm through its inverters from China,
00:42:31.120which becomes a major, major additional risk of the country driving itself towards government-incented by all governments in the last 12 years here, incenting the procurement of solar panels, inverters, battery storage, wind farms from abroad that are destroying the electrical system in the U.S. in terms of reliability and in terms of cost.
00:42:55.280As cost escalation in electrical space continues to run rampant to this moment, electricity is 38% of U.S. energy supply all in.
00:43:04.540It's the single largest component of energy supply.
00:43:37.660But they have a kill switch because of comms.
00:43:40.540The U.S. taxpayers underwriting this, correct?
00:43:43.360We're underwriting it with incentives that are as high as 54%.
00:43:47.940The ITC and the PTC now included under the rubric of the Big Beautiful Bill, we're endorsing the furtherance of this, include about 53% incentives when you add in the effect of the five-year vastly accelerated maker's depreciation schedule for taxes to the Biden extended PTC and ITC,
00:44:08.180which we are now extending in the current one beautiful bill, are incenting the importation of these devices.
00:44:15.820Just a few weeks ago, we took back for a six-month timeout or a long-term timeout, the tariffs applied to these devices, to solar panels and batteries,
00:44:26.080based on some premise that this is some kind of advanced technology and we should be not tariffing this kind of technology being imported here from China,
00:44:35.820that is taking over the U.S. electrification system.
00:44:39.040So this becomes, you know, it's a major, major issue that should be wrestled in the budget presently, in the present discussions,
00:44:46.440for at least terminate the importation of this stuff until it can all be qualified on a cost basis for citizens, that the cost is lower.
00:44:54.700The cost is not lower. It's about four times higher.
00:44:57.620But then the risk of the intermittents and then the problem with this is huge. The problem with this is huge.
00:45:04.000We're missing one of the five key issues associated with this administration's takeover of power.
00:45:09.320Energy is a big goddamn deal. It's a big deal. It's in the top five things.
00:45:14.660And we're kicking the can down the road and, you know, it is what it is, but we're kicking the can down the road on this.
00:45:19.360Dave, where can people go on your social media to get all the reports and analysis you put up?
00:45:25.500You're finding on Dave Walsh Energy at Getter, Truth Social, and the other media.
00:45:32.760I didn't get a chance to catch up with you. You went to the CRA conference for two days. How was it?
00:45:38.240Well, it was good. I mean, a huge amount of progress being made on a lot of fronts for the administration.
00:45:43.840This one, I did speak to Roy extensively about great feedback from him in complete agreement on the Texas angle.
00:45:51.280Texas, the next 92 percent of devices installed the next five years, according to the ERCOT plan, will be solar and battery storage for the good people in Texas.
00:46:02.900He's all over fighting this. The budget team, I think they've for now thrown the towel in that this is maybe a fight not worth fighting.
00:46:12.920But the trouble with that becomes, the trouble becomes the ability then to go back and invoke executive privilege on defunding this later becomes an enormous contradiction in supporting it one day and then coming back the next and fighting it.
00:46:26.600Along with the good EPA efforts on abolishing the endangerment finding on CO2, we may get that done, but we found that we've supported a big, beautiful bill that involves incenting this stuff forever because Elon Musk maybe needs to sell more batteries.
00:46:41.400This all won't work in logic space with dismantling this.
00:46:45.420So I think, you know, we've got to stand very tall.
00:46:47.540That part of the meeting is a little bit disappointing to me, the fact that only Chip Roy was standing up really, really aggressively attacking this issue because he's very familiar with it in Texas in his home state, being a very costly, intermittent challenge for industrial development and rate payers in Texas.
00:47:04.420We've got to sort of Texas, got to sort of Florida and South Carolina.
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