WarRoom Battleground EP 847： Next Man Up
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Summary
On the 24th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, we remember the lives lost in the attacks and remember the heroes who fought to save us. On this episode of War Room, Steve and Jack discuss the similarities between the Charlie Kirk shooter and Timothy McVeigh and the Butler County shooter.
Transcript
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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I've got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,
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but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Okay, welcome. Thursday, 11 September, the Overlord 2025.
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The Hearst, I think, has arrived, according to the Wire Services Daily Mail,
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There has not been announcements, I don't think, Jack, of any of the arrangements.
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They're trying to figure out what folks are going to do.
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But Charlie's remains are going to be taken by Air Force Two back to Phoenix.
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Don Jr. has been on Megyn Kelly today and just threw down hard on the transgender,
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transgender ideology and the violence the transgender movement is bringing to America.
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Netanyahu is on saying that Islamists have done this.
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Not only did you write the book on humans, which is a New York Times bestseller,
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a War Room book that we were very proud to do, and quite controversial,
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You go throughout history, right, and connect the dots here to the unhumans
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You've also, I think, done more than any individual to really put forward to us Butler,
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The War Room Posse prides itself on being on top of every major issue
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and having the details and being able to get links and podcasts and tweets.
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We try to inundate and flood the zone with information for people.
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I think most people would say, I really don't understand Butler.
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I don't have enough information that's been put out.
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It seems to me there's so many striking similarities with Butler here,
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I mean, we've never gotten really the FBI's – we don't know.
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We don't know administrative state involvement.
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The parents – and buying the kid the weapon and the ammunition,
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the parents have never been, I don't think, even interviewed to the degree under oath
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to be accessories to the crime or co-conspirators.
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Doesn't it kind of shock you how similar this looks to Butler, sir?
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Well, Steve, honestly, I wish I could say it was shocking, but it's not shocking
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because it follows a pattern and it follows a trend.
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We are now seeing a trend play out in front of our eyes.
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And what you see is a profile, highly intelligent, well-planned, well-trained,
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well-practiced assassins, young in age, Gen Z, I could think three right off the top of my head,
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Thomas Matthew Crooks, Luigi Maggioni, now this individual, so who they describe as college age.
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He was proficient in use of a drone, proficient in use of technology that he learned while in school,
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scored 1,500 on his SATs, although he did not matriculate to anything other than a community college,
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He was able to build bombs, although the FBI had said at the time that they were not activated.
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Those bombs awaited in a car that he had that completely always gets lost whenever anyone talks about this.
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And, of course, he was able to do what he did, getting on top of that prone position at the Butler County Fairgrounds
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and then be able to take those shots of President Trump and then the rest of the crowd.
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Now, what you're seeing, Steve, is a pattern of copycats.
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So Luigi Maggioni becomes a copycat of Butler, and now the Charlie Kirk shooter becomes a copycat of both.
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So this is a Maggioni copycat, it is a Butler copycat, and what you're seeing is escalation.
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These individuals, they look at it and they say, I can be smarter than that guy.
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The school shooter up in the trans school shooter at the Catholic School, Annunciation Catholic School,
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again, completely obsessed with various other shootings, obsessed with planning.
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There is a sense of God-like ability that they believe they have in order to be able to control life itself,
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to get in, get out through this planning process,
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and will make very specific, calculated decisions to take the lives of the innocent.
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What do you think is going to be the key that picks the lock here?
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They're saying now they're – a senior law enforcement is not refuting but saying people don't have the whole story about the shells themselves
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and whether the stock of the rifle or there's transgender ideology and Antifa on it.
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There must be something going on to bring the director of the FBI,
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and I think he actually said Dan Bongino may be with him.
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I mean, what is your sense of where this stands?
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Because we have to get this assassin, and we have to get him alive.
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Where it stands is this is going to happen again until these types of groups and this type of ideology
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is actually addressed directly at the national, federal level.
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Let's – I want – if you can pull up and read Tom Tillis specifically came after you and I today.
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And remember, Tom Tillis is the guy, the – has stored it more of President Trump's efforts in the Senate.
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And he's another one that's just horrible, wrong on every topic.
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And we ran him out of the Senate so he knew that he couldn't even run for re-election.
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So he was responding to comments that you and I made on the show yesterday,
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What I was really disgusted by yesterday is a couple of talking heads that sees this as an opportunity to say we're at war
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so that they could get some of our conservative followers lathered up over this.
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It seems like a cheap, disgusting, awful way to pretend like you're a leader of a conservative movement.
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And there were two in particular that I found particularly disgusting.
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What does – what does Tillis – and Tillis is just a – the typical guy that comes out up here
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and just trying to punch a clock and got in the way of President Trump's programs on multiple occasions.
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He was told in no uncertain terms, you're not going to get an endorsement for Trump.
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You're going to get beat in a North Carolina primary.
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What are people missing when they say Jack Posobiec wrote Unhumans?
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What are they missing about the very moment we're in?
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Well, Steve, what they're missing is that the bullets are going in one direction.
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They're hitting CEOs on the streets of New York City.
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So, yes, when we say a war has been declared, what other word would you like us to use?
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They have stopped attempting to engage in politics as the art of discussion and debate.
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They couldn't out-debate him, so they did this.
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So when we say that's a weapon of warfare, you're absolutely right because that is what warfare is.
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That is when one side stops talking and begins diplomacy by other means, as they say in international politics.
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They, with President Trump, 700 years, Tillis and these guys just stood by.
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Because people like Tillis are conservatives, and those wimps are the reason the country's in the shape itself, right?
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They raise a ton of money, and they come up to D.C., and all they do is just go along to get along, get in business with the lobbyists, get in business with Big Pharma, Wall Street, all of it.
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This award's been declared on a populist nationalist movement, on the President Trump movement.
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In actual, as I said, it's going to go to assassinations.
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I went to that Semaphore conference in – it was in the spring, and at Semaphore, I said, look, unless there's some changes here, you're going to have this left.
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They're so radicalized, and they're so violent, and no one will do anything about it that they're going to kill and kill again.
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So Jack is going to be on Laura Ingraham tonight.
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I want to make sure everybody tunes in to Laura.
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But can we play – do we have the Jake Tapper?
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A bit of what we heard from prominent voices in conservative media reacting to the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
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The most important voices that we've had in my lifetime on the right.
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We're going to pick up that bloodstained microphone where Charlie left it.
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You just heard Steve Bannon say that Charlie Kirk was a, quote, casualty of war.
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On today's New York Times podcast, The Daily, you said, quote, Kirk was, in a sense, killed in the line of duty, unquote.
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How do you see his death influencing the conservative movement?
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Because, boy, there are a lot of people in the conservative movement not only hurt, not only upset, but really angry.
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And I'm not saying they shouldn't be, but, like, really – you really just see it tangibly.
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I think you're right, Jake, and I don't think there's any reason – there's nothing that would indicate to us that the conservative movement will cool its passions as a result of this assassination.
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I don't think that this is going to stir a kind of unifying theme.
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To the extent that there's any unity, it will be unity against the left.
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And we have seen, you know, really from the moment his assassination was confirmed, people using third-person plural, they.
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They did this to Charlie Kirk in the way that we heard frequently after the assassination attempt on Trump and Butler.
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So they're viewing this, the conservatives are, as an us-versus-them moment.
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Draper's one of the smartest writers they've got over the New York Times.
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All these people want to do is talk about the conservative movement, the conservative movement, the conservative movement.
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Where's any talk about the person pulling the trigger?
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Or the person who pulled the trigger in New York City on the street of an innocent man?
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Or the person who pulled the trigger in Butler, Pennsylvania?
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Or the person who was attempting to pull the trigger down in West Palm Beach?
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Who, by the way, is still going on trial right now?
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No discussion about the political assassinations and assassination attempts that have taken place.
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Look, we can have a country where we have debate, or we can have a country where we have this.
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And people like Jake Tapper, by the way, who have encouraged political violence in the past, I haven't forgotten Jake, are sitting there acting like it's not happening.
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You've had in Nashville, you had the transgender radical that wrote, she wrote a manifesto.
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We still, you know, Michael Patrick Leahy, what, two years later, we still don't have the whole thing.
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You've had the situation in Minneapolis where the young guy, you know, actually went into, and do the stained glass windows, aiming at the church pews, take out as many kids as possible, as quickly as possible, with, I think, 115 rounds.
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Those kind of, you know, those have already been forgotten about the left.
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The right and the decent people in this country are now target practice for these radicals.
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This boldness, Charlie Kirk at a noon, at the lunch hour at Utah Valley University, with, I don't know, 4,000 or 5,000 kids just piling in there to see him,
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doing what Charlie Kirk does at least, like, once a week at one of these universities, and put out there, you know, weeks in advance so people know about it.
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If you watch the whole video, he's tossing the hats.
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He's doing what Charlie Kirk does every workday of his life.
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And then he goes and does Prove Me Wrong, where he's, and he lets the people disagree with him, come up to the front of the line.
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He's with an upbeat, you know, Charlie always had that kind of glint in his eye, right, and that smile on his face.
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And he's gunned down in cold blood, assassinated, in front of the entire world, and then they mock it, and they ridicule it on social media, and they say how great it is, and how Charlie deserved it, right?
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How come I never hear the word assassination once?
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They treated it like it was, you know, like you got into a car accident or something.
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Like, oh, it's so sad, but, you know, these things happen.
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This was the deliberate killing, assassination, murder of our friend, Steve.
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And that needs to be discussed because assassinations have assassins.
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And assassins, a lot of the time, do not work alone.
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But CNN, who, by the way, used to be a fantastic breaking news network, they don't want to do that.
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They want to talk about the conservative rhetoric.
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Let's go talk about the rhetoric that I see on Blue Sky right now, the people celebrating this.
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Let's go look at all the TikToks of the people celebrating this, the people in government, the people in positions of power, the people in business who are celebrating this.
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Let's go talk about that because you're not seeing it.
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By the way, Steve, I'm seeing this video right now that just passed on my inbox that it looks like Phoenix Sky Harbor, the executive terminal, a crew of, so a hearse was just seen going in.
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And then a crew of, looked like security, heavily armed presence.
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And right behind all of them was a team of bagpipers.
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A team of bagpipers walking in to the Phoenix executive terminal at the Sky Harbor.
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As everybody knows, Charlie Kirk always started every show with the bagpipes of a Scotsman.
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Charlie Kirk, as a Kirk, I remember on the bagpipes, every time we'd go to break, I'd say, man, I love that opening of yours.
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Jack Posobiec, I know you've got to go get ready for your Fox interview tonight with Laura Ingram.
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I know you're not putting up a lot today, but your Twitter feed is the Associated Press of the MAGA movement.
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People stay on there because they want to know what's going on.
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And I take it you're going to do also a Charlie Kirk show tomorrow, the noon show?
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Tomorrow we're going to – I'm going to be heading out to Arizona to meet with the team, to be with everybody.
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And the goal, the hope, the hope at least tomorrow, is that we can all come together, all of us, the four guys who did the shows with him every day.
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You know, Thursday was usually the day that we would get together for a big group show.
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And so we're doing that now tomorrow on Friday.
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By the way, those streams, either on election nights or special events, will go all hours, and you guys were just fantastic.
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I do want to say one thing, that we are going to leave one seat empty tomorrow.
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I want everybody to watch that tonight, Jack Posobiec, Jack Posobiec v. Laura Ingram.
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The guys did such a spectacular job today, starting on the war room at 10 o'clock in the morning, Eastern Daylight Time.
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We're going to actually remain in Utah tomorrow.
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I think there may be a couple, three things happening with the assassin.
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I think it's very important to get this put to bed.
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Cash Patel, and I believe Dan Bongino is on the way here.
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And if we can play that after we get back from break, it looks like Air Force Two may have landed in Phoenix Sky Harbor at the FBI over there.
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And it looks like Charlie Kirk's remains are being transferred now.
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And so we're going to probably go to Arizona tomorrow afternoon or tomorrow night, et cetera.
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Well, it looks like we're going to do the Saturday show from Arizona, and we'll figure out exactly where that is, if everything takes place.
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And if this investigation gets put to bed, like I said, Cash Patel and Dan Bongino are on the way out.
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Dave, I want to bring you in to respond to – I don't know if you heard Tom Tillis, his comments about how adamant we've been in not backing down here with the left taking target practice, essentially, from President Trump to Charlie Kirk.
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It's still tough to comprehend that we're preparing for the mortal remains of Charlie Kirk for a service and a funeral and a burial just that's happened in the last 24 hours because of this increasing violence from the left.
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Don Jr. went off on it, and Meg and Kelly, of course, are in total meltdown.
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Yeah, well, what triggered me in your last conversation when you brought up the issue of are we at war?
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And, you know, earlier today, you know, we had a good discussion on the early show.
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And, you know, there is a war against God that's continual every day within every person, but it's broader than that.
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When you see the left on the streaming, right, all the streaming stuff out there, they're rejoicing over the death of Charlie Kirk.
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They're jumping up and down with joy, and there's just a demonic look on the faces.
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To say that there's a war, that's an understatement.
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And the points I raised this morning, the problem is with the Christian majority in this country and other people of goodwill who are allowing our kids to be educated in the K-12 system and university system with no ethics, no morality.
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We're supposed to have a right to freedom and liberty.
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There's no right when they take 40 percent of your income out of your pocket and force you to buy what the left wants.
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And I didn't want to get into technical details, but I'm just going to bring it up because it's important.
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He had to do some juggling, right, some logical, constitutional, pre-constitutional juggling for, you know, all Americans really aren't voting for these things called taxes.
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Your individual vote, you don't have a say in it.
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And that means, you know, in a Republican government, you know, the fact that you've kind of gone along with a majority government, a Republican government, you're kind of going along with it.
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But that was just for the basic rights of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness.
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Today, the left is overwhelming us with a swamp, right?
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We've got 450,000 missing girls and boys that are being prostituted, raped, trafficked.
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And the majority is running roughshod over our rights.
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So to ask the question, is there a war going on?
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In the New Testament, Jesus, love God with all your heart, mind and soul.
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Everything I just said is the antithesis of that.
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That's a war against God, against Christ, against the two great commands, against your neighbor.
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And if conservatives ever rejoice in the death of anyone on the left, I'll call them out as well.
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These sickos, these deconstructionists who are ruining everything we believe.
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All of our strong loves, all of our strong desires, the love of God, the love of country, the love of church, the love of family.
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And to say we're not at war, I mean, you've got to be kidding me.
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And that doesn't mean we hate, but we're at war.
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You, you, when I, when I, when I knew you were coming on today to talk about the War Powers Resolution,
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I actually thought, sadly, there is no more appropriate, a Democratic guest than to talk
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The new, because you were also on the kill list that this guy allegedly had this summer
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who was obviously killed the former Speaker of the Minnesota House and her husband and
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And I just think to myself, how cynical is it for big name figures on the right, Donald
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Trump, Elon Musk, many others, Nancy Mace yesterday, saying this is a Democratic Party
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As if people like you are not getting death threats all the time, credible ones.
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And, you know, it reminds you that although these people pretend to be adults, that they
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are sometimes, you know, they think a lot less than even children do when it comes to
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compassion, when it comes to thoughtfulness, when it comes to being a leader.
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You know, I did expect the president's address to the nation would have been a lot more compassionate
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He doesn't even know who the assassin is for him to say.
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It it it I think it kind of denigrated his status and the status of of the office he holds.
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Um, but what what I do know for sure is that, you know, Charlie was someone who once said,
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Um, after a school shooting, um, Charlie was someone who was willing to debate and downplay
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the death of George Floyd, uh, in the hands of Minneapolis police.
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Have no regard, um, downplay slavery and what black people have gone through in this country,
00:34:17.680
Um, I can only take Somalians lecturing American citizens so much.
00:34:25.760
This is another thing about playing paddy cake.
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I don't know why she's not out of the country, but her brother, who was her husband, I don't
00:34:32.800
It's, it's, it's, it's too perverse by half, but, uh, it's gotta be dealt with.
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So I don't, I have, I'm, I'm at lost at sea about why, um, she is even in this country,
00:34:49.040
much less in Congress, but that's the way people roll.
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So let's, if we're not adjudicating that and, and investigating that, I don't know what
00:35:00.020
Um, this lockdown at the Naval Academy, there's early reporting that it might be a midshipman
00:35:07.160
who was, um, um, who was basically rolled out of the Academy, got angry, came back with
00:35:15.260
a gun and was pretending to be a military policeman, went door to door.
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I don't know how that magnificent, it has some of the magnificent halls there, particularly
00:35:23.040
where the main, uh, barracks is, is absolutely stunning.
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One of the most beautiful places in the country.
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Uh, we're going to, there's a headline right there.
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As soon as we can get some news clips, I want to play this, uh, active shooter at the
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United States Naval Academy, supposedly a pre, a former or a midshipman who just got, um,
00:35:41.120
rolled out, uh, coming back day Bratt right there with, um, Omar.
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Here's Charlie Kirk's assassinated in cold blood.
00:35:52.400
Uh, and they are gleefully, gleefully dancing on his grave.
00:35:57.580
And I thought the president's comments the other night were very, very, very appropriate.
00:36:01.620
Uh, and, and, and remember the twisted left, this had to be the lead story in the daily
00:36:07.840
The twisted left made this huge deal that was artificial intelligence, that Trump didn't
00:36:12.700
actually address the nation because of some glitch in the, uh, I don't know if it was
00:36:17.180
8K or 5K or whatever, some glitch in the video.
00:36:20.440
Um, they were making the case that this was art, that Trump couldn't actually, uh, sit
00:36:26.560
through and do a four or five minute speech to the nation.
00:36:31.500
Uh, but I thought his, I thought his response was, was absolutely dead spot on.
00:36:37.280
He said, he's got to get the perpetrators and everybody associated with it, bring them to
00:36:42.580
Uh, and then talked about where we are as a country, which is, we're very divided.
00:36:46.800
And the left only talks about unity when they're losing.
00:36:49.920
As soon as they start losing, either losing the narrative or losing politically, all of
00:36:56.780
They want everybody to come together only when they're losing.
00:36:59.980
Did you see him looking for any unity after they stole the 2020 election?
00:37:08.080
When they went after, they, they said the J six guys were the worst, the biggest investigation
00:37:13.160
When they said all the, all these white nationalists all over the place are the number one terrorist
00:37:19.080
When they were throwing people out because of their social media out of the military.
00:37:23.180
Uh, when they, when they threw people out of businesses, out of, out of schools, everything
00:37:27.420
for the mass mandates that we know were bald face lies, bald face lies, not even close.
00:37:32.000
Did you remember any unity that they say, let's bring the country together.
00:37:36.380
We want to trust or we want to unify, let us come reason together.
00:37:41.040
The reason you don't remember, it didn't happen.
00:37:48.800
We dusted ourselves off because we're anti-fragile movement.
00:37:52.200
As Charlie Kirk so brilliantly said at a few minutes to, to high noon on the 1st of July,
00:37:59.380
2024, when I was carted off to a federal prison.
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Which they hoped that I would get killed in that prison.
00:38:22.660
And right there, you see it with, with, with, with Omar in the host.
00:38:30.440
It's the neo-Marxists and the radical jihadist, sir.
00:38:38.700
And her critique falls on its face within a sentence.
00:38:42.460
I mean, she's critiquing the president for calling a murderer and a butcher some name.
00:38:53.460
And so, you know, Congresswoman Omar, I mean, I want to know what is your ethics?
00:39:03.080
I mean, everybody needs to know this kind of thing.
00:39:05.520
And our Jewish friends, I got some rabbis commenting on the side today in a very positive
00:39:10.640
way, but I'm not hearing the public figures coming out, right?
00:39:15.360
On the left, you got leftist front groups in the Jewish community, but we need to hear
00:39:21.060
the Orthodox and the conservative Jewish friends come out and make some bold statements in public
00:39:26.060
about this murder and that this is asymmetric, right?
00:39:32.040
The conservatives, you know, you said you're right.
00:39:34.320
You don't want to be identified as a conservative.
00:39:39.040
So, you know, I certainly share that sentiment, but I'm a Christian first and foremost.
00:39:44.320
And the Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, had a memo today on 9-11 or whatever, and
00:39:49.620
it's kind of like, well, you know, we're going to grow through this pain or whatever.
00:39:54.720
The American people are sick of growing through this pain, and the same thing holds for the
00:40:01.040
You know, no, you guys need to act like conservatives.
00:40:06.720
The God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, and Jesus Christ.
00:40:10.800
And if you believe in that God, you believe in the God of justice, right?
00:40:15.660
God disciplined his own chosen people, Israel, for hundreds, threw them in the desert for
00:40:36.180
He just yelled out to the young men, and they listened, and they responded.
00:40:41.800
And if you cry out to God, right, which is what we're supposed to be doing, Israel has
00:40:46.740
not been crying out to God enough either, right?
00:40:50.840
And so, you know, I'm an equal opportunity theologian.
00:40:56.180
The education in this country, no one even knows what it is, right?
00:40:59.160
And so we need to get back to our first principles, back to the founders.
00:41:03.440
And Charlie Kirk was just the exemplar, tying the Christian tradition together with the
00:41:15.060
Liberty is probably the key, you know, civic, secular virtue in our society, right?
00:41:22.260
The Catholics and the Protestants believe the reason we're on the earth is to glorify God,
00:41:27.500
But in the secular realm, in the political realm, the chief virtue is liberty.
00:41:32.960
And yeah, for a congresswoman, Omar, to lecture us about liberty, can you name one country
00:41:39.460
associated with your beliefs that has free people?
00:41:42.940
I mean, it's like the Chinese lecture to us about liberty.
00:41:49.380
And our scholars, our universities, President Trump is doing yeoman's work going after the
00:41:56.840
Oh, my word, the research funding and all this.
00:42:02.640
But the first and foremost job of the university is to pursue truth.
00:42:12.460
And the rest is all a footnote until you get to Jesus.
00:42:25.640
The ascent to God when God comes back because he loves us.
00:42:44.920
I want to replay what we started the show with and get your comments on this.
00:42:49.220
This was Charlie Kirk at I think his very best.
00:42:53.380
And Charlie Kirk lays out the entire philosophy, but particularly talks about assassination and
00:43:05.680
Listen, they think they have this theory that if they take out Trump and they get Tucker Carlson
00:43:11.560
fired and they liquidate Alex Jones and they keep MTG off committees for a first term in Congress,
00:43:17.500
unheard of, if they take away the law license of Rudy Giuliani and bankrupt one of the greatest
00:43:23.160
men in this country, if they bankrupt the Hoffs over a gateway pundit and John Eastman.
00:43:30.880
And I can go down and down and down and get parents to go into school boards intimidated if they can go
00:43:36.980
take the little Catholic churches, the Latin mass Catholic churches and intimidate them.
00:43:41.600
If they if if we just sit there and say, oh, woe is me, then we lose.
00:43:52.760
Look at why did Joe Biden roll the dice in one of the debate.
00:43:58.780
President Trump on Thursday, five months before the before the campaign, simply because he's
00:44:03.680
so far down, he's so far behind because African-Americans, Hispanics, Asian-Americans,
00:44:12.700
Everybody is coming to MAGA, two thirds of the country to MAGA.
00:44:15.640
And they're coming because they understand that this is about taking their country back
00:44:19.820
and stopping this invasion, stopping the forever war, stopping the madness on Capitol Hill.
00:44:26.100
They think if they can decapitate that and do it with, you know, 50 negative pieces on Charlie
00:44:33.420
And trust me, Charlie Kirk's going to get an IRS investigation.
00:44:35.940
They're already, you know, I'm sure going after Charlie Kirk and every different aspect.
00:44:40.080
If we act like we're intimidated, they're going to win.
00:44:43.900
Here's why I'm so look, would I rather not spend the next four months there?
00:44:51.780
My team and our audience will step up to the plate.
00:44:55.560
That's why next man up, because this is a 20 year project to take our country back.
00:45:00.160
A lot of us are not going to be around in a couple of years.
00:45:02.320
President Trump is 78 years old and had the burden of the world put on him, including
00:45:06.880
being not just a company strip, but in a couple of weeks, he's going to have be he's going
00:45:14.600
Donald Trump, who gave us three and a half, four years of peace and prosperity as president.
00:45:21.540
Oh, what she's doing is she's trying to get out the visual and the idea of assassinating
00:45:28.560
I hope everyone understands whether it be Julius Caesar.
00:45:32.040
Yeah, Julius Caesar, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King Jr.,
00:45:40.800
Assassinations of major political leaders are nothing new.
00:45:44.360
And yet we've kind of been immune to that for a couple of decades.
00:45:50.200
Now, the very interesting question is, will they try to kill Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
00:45:56.260
Which one right now is a bigger threat to them?
00:45:59.240
And that I'll let the audience kind of ruminate on that question.
00:46:03.780
But we've been warning about this for quite some months.
00:46:05.940
This is why the next man up philosophy is so important and why we wanted to do the show
00:46:09.780
with you, Steve, as a show of force, is that you take one out, a hundred more appear.
00:46:23.680
You take one out, is that it only actually makes us stronger.
00:46:27.360
You see, there are three different ways to analyze political movements or to categorize
00:46:31.940
There are the fragile, the durable, and the anti-fragile.
00:46:36.460
This is from Nassim Taleb, which is a phenomenal book.
00:46:40.140
The fragile is the Mitt Romney Republican Party.
00:46:44.920
You say one bad word about them, they collapse, they bend a knee, they surrender, and they're
00:46:49.340
relentlessly apologizing and they're spineless.
00:46:53.300
The durable is the best of the conservative movement prior to Donald Trump.
00:46:58.900
That would be the conservative movement that always held on and they put up a good point
00:47:03.140
fight, had some fortitude, but didn't quite have enough to be able to endure the grind
00:47:13.000
I encourage everyone to read the book Anti-Fragile.
00:47:15.520
In the book Anti-Fragile, Nassim Taleb argues that there are unique people, organizations,
00:47:22.820
movements, restaurants, companies that actually get stronger the more pressure and opposition
00:47:30.100
And when you find an anti-fragile movement, that their life force is actually what ends
00:47:38.580
Has anyone noticed that Donald Trump looks younger, stronger, more full of life and vitality
00:47:43.960
after the indictments than before the indictments?
00:47:50.480
It gives him a telos, as the Greekers would say, or a teleological purpose for existence.
00:47:55.960
This movement that we are part of right now, that historians will write about for the next
00:48:03.060
This movement that you are part of will be written about for the next millennia.
00:48:06.960
People do not remember the many movements from 400 or 500 years ago, maybe a little bit
00:48:12.100
This movement will be written about for 1,000 years.
00:48:15.960
And when the history books are written, it will befuddle historians 600, 700, 800 years
00:48:21.720
Why is it that the people that had so much to lose, the Steve Bannons, the Peter Navarros,
00:48:26.460
the Donald Trumps, they kept on doubling and tripling down because full of fortitude and that
00:48:33.140
We have the chance to influence the arc of history, as the left-winger Hegelians would always
00:48:38.800
The arc of history always bends towards justice.
00:48:42.100
The arc of history will bend back towards citizen-led government, not subjects, not slaves.
00:48:48.240
And we will use this dark moment as they cart you off tomorrow, Steve, and put you in handcuffs
00:48:56.560
For 123 days, I will work harder than I ever have my entire life.
00:49:04.180
And it is a call to action for every citizen watching right now to do more.
00:49:11.220
Because one of our on-field commanders is getting taken off for 123 days.
00:49:22.220
Dave Bratt, I mean, it doesn't get better than that.
00:49:25.780
And to think of the irony that here we are after Charlie and his organization was so elemental
00:49:37.340
in the victory in 2024 that nine months into this victory, with this whole future ahead
00:49:44.440
of him, cut down by an assassin's bullet in Utah.
00:49:48.680
And by the way, Daily Mail and others, the wire services are saying they're closing in
00:50:00.500
Closing thoughts on Charlie Kirk's really prescient comments.
00:50:08.000
What he just said, though, in my Calvinist strain, we got this thing called predestination.
00:50:13.600
But my Catholic wife just sent me a text, which is timely and shows the full providence
00:50:23.380
DNI Tulsi Gabbard releases powerful statement following Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:50:28.860
Dash calls it the very definition of terrorism.
00:50:34.360
So there is a former Democrat, a very good person.
00:50:38.780
This assassination is the very definition of terrorism.
00:50:41.860
It's meant to inflict psychological pain and fear into the American people.
00:50:49.400
So when you open the show about a war and when Charlie's going off on we're at a war,
00:50:58.500
We're not even getting into the CIA, FBI, color revolution, 70 coup d'etats over the last
00:51:07.340
The evidence is going to come out on this thing.
00:51:14.920
We want to ignore that hard message that life ain't pretty and the church needs to wake
00:51:19.300
up and start fighting the fight and dig in and follow the example of the great Charlie
00:51:31.140
A good and decent man cut down in the even before the prime of life.
00:51:49.640
I want to thank Jack, but so, but the entire team, Andrew and Tyler over at the turning
00:51:57.920
Those folks are under tremendous pressure, as you can imagine.
00:52:02.360
I don't think Charlie's remains have arrived at Sky Harbor.
00:52:08.720
That's what the getting organized and having the bagpipes.
00:52:12.160
So we'll throughout the night, we'll keep you updated.
00:52:15.380
We're going to see you back here tomorrow morning at 10 a.m.
00:52:19.780
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