Based Camp - August 20, 2026


1 A＊＊hole Can Make a Chud： Yukiwaru Tells All


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1 hour and 4 minutes

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184.4

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11,816

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98


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00:00:00.000 hello i'm excited to be here with you today today we have yuki waru with us who recently
00:00:08.620 went viral there's been a few red videos on her because she made the bold claim that men
00:00:16.000 cannot get periods and that tomboys are good and anyone who knows our channel we we are so
00:00:22.460 pro tomboy on this channel that i actually had a fan email me a detailed list of bible quotes
00:00:27.980 trying to argue that the bible says you should only take tomboys and i was like that is that
00:00:34.720 is another degree but what makes her so interesting and why i was excited to talk with you is you were
00:00:41.740 before saying this you never really got into politics that much on your channel you never
00:00:46.420 really got into like that this kind of like political spicy opinion and something really
00:00:51.520 unique happened because the internet decided to go after you for these takes and normally the
00:00:58.780 reaction historically of like a non-political vtuber would have been to either apologize
00:01:04.400 or at the very least if they're not going to apologize not lean into it not watch the rev
00:01:11.540 review of her not come on base camp or something like that and yet you go in this other direction
00:01:17.540 and it seems to have worked out really well for you,
00:01:19.840 but I'm wondering why you went in this direction.
00:01:22.960 Like, do you think that this is just like the ethos now
00:01:25.760 or is this an intentional decision you made or what?
00:01:28.920 Well, for me, I mean, saying my thoughts
00:01:32.560 and my point of view felt really freeing.
00:01:35.400 And I feel like I've been walking on eggshells
00:01:37.840 around people for so long,
00:01:39.380 worrying about everyone's feelings.
00:01:41.460 And like, it's been really like debilitating for me
00:01:45.000 trying to just, you know, watch out for everyone's feelings.
00:01:49.000 And I was just like, you know what?
00:01:51.140 I'm over it.
00:01:52.780 And I said what I said.
00:01:55.100 I, I would, I'm not going to say something if I don't mean it.
00:01:58.600 And if I'm not going to stand by it, that's a waste of time and energy.
00:02:02.660 I mean, why say something if you're not going to stick by it?
00:02:05.700 I don't see that point.
00:02:07.660 Well, continue, continue.
00:02:10.520 I was just going to say, I don't say something then back down.
00:02:15.000 I'm going to stick with it. I don't care what people think. And
00:02:18.360 I'm so sick of trying to like, watch out for people. I mean,
00:02:23.200 like, I respect people's feelings. But like, God, like, I
00:02:26.940 have had to be so careful and like, really think through what
00:02:30.480 I say and like, like, make sure I get like pronouns and stuff
00:02:34.440 correctly. Because no, I do respect how people feel and
00:02:37.740 stuff. But it felt so good to let it out. Oh, my God.
00:02:42.760 No, it really, this is a pathway that I feel like has happened to a lot of people. So we, my wife and I used to be like very mainstream leftists. And then we ended up going viral a number of times for talking about birth rate collapse, just like fertility rates are really low. This is going to affect social security systems. And we got absolutely piled on.
00:03:07.340 the the internet decided that that meant that we were white supremacists or whatever or like
00:03:12.240 i don't know right and so what ended up changing our mind is at first we weren't like you we
00:03:20.400 hedged all of our points we were like well with this and keep in mind this and keep in mind this
00:03:25.960 but as time went on we began to notice that there was like this community of people who just like
00:03:31.520 cared about what was true and they were like shockingly nice to us even when we had a lot
00:03:37.640 of differences of opinions with them and this feeling that you're talking about of like oh my
00:03:44.080 god I can just say whatever I think now is such a weird place that we were in a society where it
00:03:52.640 was normal to not feel that way I mean I did you find yourself like self-censoring a lot before
00:04:03.420 was it was it the being called out that put you in a position where you could talk about things
00:04:09.780 more like was it was that what made it possible for you I did feel better really you know stating
00:04:17.900 how i i've never really been one to censor i've always been known for being like forward bluntly
00:04:23.380 honest just saying how i feel because i i mean personally i don't really understand other
00:04:29.860 people's feelings like or empathy or compassion you know i just it doesn't come natural to me
00:04:37.360 i think i felt empathy once in my entire life and i didn't understand what was happening
00:04:41.940 my dad like had to explain it to me like i was a kindergartner learning how to feel and stuff it
00:04:47.480 was a weird thing but yeah I mean even now I'm still kind of paranoid of my own pronouns
00:04:55.060 I I find myself referring to everyone as them they just to be careful and cautious it's just
00:05:02.280 in my head that I'm gonna say something and mess something up and they're gonna like come after me
00:05:08.560 for it even if they are a friend or not well your story was really interesting because it started
00:05:14.220 with like it seemed like this really started with a specific toxic individual in your life
00:05:19.360 and they go on your birthday stream and somebody accidentally misgenders them and they decide to
00:05:26.620 make the birthday stream all about themselves and I also want to note here before I go
00:05:33.380 not all trans people do that like I know some totally normal cool based trans people and they
00:05:41.280 don't do this shit when somebody accidentally misgenders and they're just like whatever like
00:05:44.600 it's just not even important it's not even in the room of of issues yeah and then there's this like
00:05:49.720 other group that uses it to try to center themselves and like move past other people's
00:05:58.960 consensual boundaries and recenter and that your emotions because i thought it was very interesting
00:06:06.180 the way that you talked about it you're like this made me feel really bad when that happened
00:06:11.880 and it wasn't the first time when this individual had made you feel really bad in this way
00:06:18.860 there was you were talking all the way back to when you first got partnered with twitch
00:06:23.200 and they hadn't gotten the partnership and they made you feel bad about celebrating which is
00:06:33.060 probably one of the biggest events in your life getting just interested to hear your thoughts on
00:06:39.640 all this from the from like experiencing it and and moving primarily because of like one
00:06:45.600 other individual pushing you into saying this stuff I became friends with them they were they
00:06:54.480 had more viewership than i did when we started becoming friends and and at some time i started
00:07:03.180 surpassing them in viewership and growing more than they were and you know at some point they
00:07:09.720 were viewing high where they could have gotten twitch partner but something happened where
00:07:14.560 everything just dropped for them and they they had been streaming longer than i have so when i was
00:07:22.600 you know, growing more than them, I felt like guilty, like, because I felt you know, they would
00:07:28.800 always tell me how hard they're trying and like, mentally how they're feeling like they don't
00:07:34.000 understand. And also, I understand that because even though I had Twitch partner, things dropped
00:07:39.480 after my partner push my views dropped. And I was like, Alright, what am I doing wrong? What do I
00:07:44.700 got to change? But when I got the email for Twitch partner, I was in a collab, and they were in my
00:07:49.960 collab because you know i love including my friends i love supporting my friends being there
00:07:55.240 for them and i got the email and i started freaking out and everyone in the collab was like
00:08:02.540 so enthusiastic and so energetic and so celebratory and then they came and they're
00:08:09.100 like what's going on and they're like oh my god you could just got twitch burner and they're like
00:08:12.980 oh good job and i was like oh can you explain for our audience who might not understand the
00:08:20.060 significance of getting partnered with twitch what this means for you as a creator i mean besides
00:08:25.340 having a really cool back not necessarily too much it means that you were able to keep an average
00:08:31.260 of a high viewership for a certain amount of time and complete the requirements doesn't it change
00:08:39.040 like a monetization or like the way the pathways you have to contact them from what i understand
00:08:44.700 when it comes to monetization you do get more opportunities but then it also you know you have
00:08:50.800 to do twitch plus to get a bigger half of what you make on twitch if you don't get twitch plus
00:08:59.640 it really isn't that much of a difference and to get twitch plus you have to hit goals of people
00:09:05.140 subscribing and like gifting subs like people need to spend money so you can get the different
00:09:11.460 levels of twitch plus to make more of the cut so like my god they changed it i also just had a
00:09:19.740 realization you've been streaming for three years right so she's the same age as our channel in
00:09:27.760 terms of how long we've been streaming oh wow so finally a co-age channel usually when we're
00:09:32.520 talking this yeah doing it a lot longer than us because you said something that really got to me
00:09:36.860 this like when your numbers drop and like i talk with other creators about this like when i'm
00:09:43.160 stressed because my numbers are dropping and i don't know why they're dropping and all they all
00:09:47.520 have such nerves of steel about it they're just like oh i don't look at the numbers i don't care
00:09:51.120 i'm like how do you not look at the numbers this is how much the world loves me if i have low
00:09:58.700 numbers the world doesn't love me anymore i'm saying something wrong yeah yeah yeah i mean i
00:10:06.420 do it because i'm like a very work driven determined person you know when i hit a goal
00:10:12.360 i'm like okay i don't really celebrate it i go all right on to the next goal let's see how we
00:10:17.240 can keep going what we can do better i'm very work driven you know that that actually i think
00:10:23.140 explains why the numbers going down hurt so much because in so many areas of life you're used to
00:10:28.520 like you hit the goal now i'm going to my next goal and then you start moving down from the
00:10:33.820 just at which is so demoralizing oh my god it's the worst it's the worst well so in despite
00:10:42.920 enduring this though like first i i don't we only learned about you recently we're not that deep
00:10:48.520 into the lore what actually got you started streaming in the first place knowing i'm sure
00:10:52.540 you knew like at least a little going in like this is actually a lot of work and i had no idea
00:10:57.480 how much work it was so i started doing streams and also like as a vtuber because like i was
00:11:02.560 playing out with leaflets pngtuber model and i was trying to like get the rig to animate and i was
00:11:07.380 like oh my god like the amount of face work i have to do just to be like and like i'm just it's so
00:11:12.700 much work it's so much more work so why did you do why did you choose the hard way and then the
00:11:17.900 double hard way like why what what inspired this i actually started off as a non-vtuber
00:11:24.820 i actually started off with not even showing myself it was just my voice and i was just
00:11:29.480 playing league and i was just doing it for you know fun i didn't think of it as anything you
00:11:35.860 know someone said you have a unique voice you should do streaming you'll do really well and
00:11:40.100 i'm like sure okay i mean most people think i sound like a child but if that's cool why not
00:11:45.160 and honestly most people think i use a voice changer this isn't my real voice it's it's i
00:11:52.780 mean like puberty just kind of skipped me it was like all right you know what wait what does it
00:11:58.720 sound like if you try to do a low voice actually my voice is a little hoarse right now because i
00:12:03.640 have been talking so much this is your this is a low voice for her yeah i know this is your
00:12:09.320 elizabeth holmes voice this is you're going to talk about other chocolate
00:12:12.960 voice it's a great voice it's a great voice for a moment in history like you come in and in the
00:12:20.740 moment of history where you can be an anime girl and you happen to have anime girl voice
00:12:26.340 yeah yeah i would i was talking with a reporter recently and i was like it is really weird when
00:12:32.980 i reflect on the number of my friends that are cartoon characters it's so fun you get to like
00:12:38.960 this design a character based off like who you feel like feel you are off your personality because
00:12:45.480 i can't i'm not looking like this in real life are you kidding me no i feel like this represents
00:12:50.900 me and my personality and also snow leopards are my favorite animal so you know it's just so fun
00:12:56.540 but i think yeah they're very cute animals this might be a transitional phase where if you look
00:13:05.080 at like where ar glasses are going where ai is going i would not be surprised that if when my
00:13:12.500 kids are my age a lot of people just choose primarily to interact with other people through
00:13:18.100 avatar oh they'll just like put a filter on everyone in their life yeah because why wouldn't
00:13:24.400 you if you could and that gets really interesting with a lot of this other stuff because i don't have
00:13:29.980 a problem with that world when it comes i think that's going to be really cool and in that world
00:13:35.920 the idea of choosing your identity is going to mean something very different which is interesting
00:13:43.400 I don't know if you have any thoughts on that or like do you think that that's going to happen
00:13:47.180 I really don't have any thoughts when it comes to the future I mean I'm a very anxious person so I
00:13:57.280 spend most of the time thinking about you know if I'm gonna eat later or you know just really like
00:14:03.240 silly stuff like that or you know what's the weather because weather freaks me out too
00:14:07.360 but i'm i'm a bit of a airhead i don't necessarily understand politics or more serious conversations
00:14:15.680 even if i try i don't understand so i try not to think about it your your video on this was very
00:14:22.860 well argued and tactfully argued as well i mean i i appreciate the humility but i think that
00:14:29.400 there's a reason why it's gone viral and received such a positive reception and one of the things
00:14:34.220 that i want to like really lean into in terms of a positive reception is when we see somebody
00:14:40.180 being attacked for saying what is clearly saying stuff bringing them into like the wider cultural
00:14:46.140 community you know you're not the only person we do interviews like this whiz i think is really
00:14:50.540 valuable because then they can feel safe saying what they want to say and knowing that this
00:14:58.220 community is not a community that's going to like care or judge or be overly aggressive about many
00:15:05.640 of the areas where they might assume that right like you started i think when you started vtubing
00:15:11.420 you were looking at doing it from like a lewd tubing perspective right did dabble in that
00:15:16.020 department yes yeah and then you you went no i'm i i don't enjoy this right like this isn't a good
00:15:22.540 way to live and we also i mean if you look at like the other people we interview in our community
00:15:27.880 like nux nux used to do hentai reviews we we run a not safe for work website right like
00:15:35.060 it's it's a lot of these things that i feel would like have people attacked within what i thought
00:15:41.580 the right-wing community was and then i enter it and they don't care they're just like oh if you
00:15:47.080 agree with us on any point we take you on every point right like you're just whatever it's very
00:15:52.240 which was my motivation for reaching out to you to be like hey come on like let's be friends in
00:15:56.640 this wider network have you gotten that from other people have like other people been reaching out to
00:16:00.920 you or oh my god so many people have been reaching out so many you know i lost a lot of people i
00:16:07.620 thought were friends i lost a bunch of artists that i worked with but honestly it's like i didn't
00:16:15.480 really get too sad about it because i'm like if they're gonna leave me over me having this kind
00:16:21.300 of opinion that's fine i don't need them in my life why would i want people like that in my life
00:16:27.000 if we can't be friends and have disagreements what are we doing you don't have to agree on
00:16:31.920 everything and then artists reached out merch companies reached out i mean i i made new friends
00:16:40.340 like nines and leaflet i've talked to powder banana juju i did a collab with awesome i've
00:16:47.400 I mean, I haven't done banana juju yet.
00:16:49.840 So sweet.
00:16:50.840 So sweet.
00:16:52.180 I want to get around.
00:16:53.040 Yeah, continue.
00:16:54.460 It is crazy, though, that, you know, you think the other side's all about acceptance and, you know, bringing you in and be who you want to be and think what you want to think.
00:17:05.760 But when you have a different opinion from theirs, they're like, nope, get out of here, you terrible, terrible person.
00:17:13.020 And then the other side is like, that's OK.
00:17:14.620 We'll take you in.
00:17:15.380 what by the way the wifo weirds collab that dropped you i i went to their website to try
00:17:21.160 to figure out what they do because like i've decided to with our company just clone any
00:17:25.420 product that dropped somebody but i couldn't even figure out what they do like what was it
00:17:29.880 what were they trying to promote well they make shaker cups and they put like vtuber art on it
00:17:35.060 just like you know the the cups you would make like protein shakes in they just shake it and
00:17:40.620 then they just slapped vtuber art on it i actually had just done my first drop with them where i sold
00:17:46.800 out on all my cups you only need 20 to start production but i sold out all the cups in like
00:17:52.560 a couple weeks that's impressive yeah weird it's like you're making them money oh yeah and they
00:17:59.560 take a good chunk of it who instigated you down this sort of pathway you were 90 of their income
00:18:06.400 at one point right my artist yes and i mean i can say that because they literally admitted it to me
00:18:12.300 in like dms which i'm not going to post publicly because i'm not that kind of person but you know
00:18:17.460 i'll say some things from the dms here and there no it's it's it's one of the most interesting
00:18:24.380 things about your personal story in regards to all of this is you coming out and finally talking
00:18:29.820 about your opinions on this stuff seem primarily motivated by just one bad actor that nobody
00:18:37.360 thought to reign in and i i i wonder like how how many people end up having these revelations
00:18:47.000 or these moments because of just one bad actor like how much one individual can matter in the
00:18:54.760 wider political sphere i mean with this person the person who made my model the person who
00:19:01.660 would get mad at you if you got their pronouns wrong i was recently after interactions they've
00:19:08.200 had with good friends of mine like the one they got mad at during my birthday stream really good
00:19:13.160 friend of mine he and i are very similar and how we think and i feel safe you know really sharing
00:19:19.360 how I feel with him I was just thinking I was like what is bonding me to this person besides
00:19:25.460 the connection of them doing art for me what is what's why or why do we have a friendship because
00:19:31.280 even when we hung out just the two of us watching the show or just you know doing stuff in our free
00:19:37.340 time I still always felt like I couldn't be my real self like I I still had to walk on those
00:19:43.680 eggshells like i have to be careful of what i said and i felt like in a way they also thought
00:19:49.360 you know i i really am not the smartest the sharpest tool in the shed as the saying goes i'm
00:19:54.960 not i admit that i'm fine with that like i i still get through my day somehow it's a miracle
00:20:00.940 i relate man i i always felt that they thought they were better than me in some way like they
00:20:07.600 they can learn things quickly they can pick things up quickly they can understand things that
00:20:12.340 i really don't even care to understand and i always feel like in a way they tried to make me
00:20:18.880 feel less than them because they would you know refer to me as their daughter their child and you
00:20:25.500 know when the retuber world you usually refer to your artist as your your your mama and your rigor
00:20:31.540 is your daddy but i couldn't because they were non-binary so i referred to them as my parent
00:20:37.520 out of respect for them and the way they talked to me it was always like oh sweetie like oh my
00:20:43.920 sweet dear child like kind of what's the word condescension yeah that yeah yeah no i i think
00:20:49.720 you are pulling on a really important thread here and it's something that i've highlighted before
00:20:55.820 and i think it's an interesting cultural sort of norm that's developed in this wider community
00:21:02.320 which is the people who are at the top of the like nerd right online community like your asthma gold
00:21:11.600 type people sort of have a personality defined by not thinking they're better than other people
00:21:17.420 and and not trying to act as if they're better than other people and our community more broadly
00:21:23.560 seems to have a very hair trigger about anybody trying to status signal like i'm a higher status
00:21:30.380 person than you are and hanging out in this community and not having to deal with that
00:21:35.500 recently i went to stanford business school and so i was back and i did a podcast with one of my
00:21:41.560 classmates who's still very much in that like i don't know what you want to call it like urban
00:21:46.540 elite mindset right like you know everything that how could you say this how could you say that like
00:21:51.560 a gas like going through my title cards and being like do you stand for this and i was like they're
00:21:58.380 meant to shock people what are you talking about and and it felt so icky and i and i realized it's
00:22:05.740 been so long since i had somebody pull that on me and it's it's it's felt so good to be hanging out
00:22:12.020 with people like leaf who like well it's cool i think it's a bureaucratically influenced school
00:22:17.460 marm culture where like we've been used to it since we were in school with just this like oh
00:22:22.320 you have no idea you're just ignorant we need to educate you and i think it's a very it's a very
00:22:28.160 pervasive like urban elite ish and this doesn't matter like how much money or education you
00:22:32.780 you have it depends on what culture you adopt where you just like you condescend and patronize
00:22:38.500 those who are just too ignorant to know how to say the right thing but then weirdly are suddenly
00:22:43.040 savage to them when they when they mess up in just the wrong way so like if that's you're
00:22:47.160 patronizing and at worst then you like tried to destroy their entire lives and careers so
00:22:51.840 well they're using you to masturbate their emotional states like i i like what someone
00:22:57.760 saying here like this isn't somebody who sees you as a friend but it's like a masturbation tool
00:23:02.640 for validation hold on that's like what most i mean we we argue that there are only three types
00:23:08.420 of friendships one is is basically convenience friendships like it's the person you went to
00:23:12.740 school with or you're in class like you're proximal to each other so you're friends the
00:23:16.120 other is utility friends so you're friends with them because you know if your kids like they have
00:23:20.240 the best video games so you need to be friends with them to get access to the gaming console
00:23:23.560 or you know they have money or whatever and then the like they're a girl and you know you want
00:23:28.140 you know you you want what you want from them but then the third is character reinforcing friends
00:23:33.360 where you have like a token friend because they're the extra or the supporting character that you need
00:23:38.200 on your life stage and that's that's what malcolm's trying to describe here but i think that's that's
00:23:44.240 not like that's not a political thing i think that's just a human thing it just happened to be
00:23:48.300 that the the supporting characters in the life of a very predominant culture happen to be like
00:23:56.040 very exploited and mistreated characters whereas i guess like in the default tropes of more
00:24:01.680 conservative or centrist or libertarian cultures like the supporting characters have a little bit
00:24:06.800 more like respect given to them they're not like stooges and you know idiots and people that they
00:24:12.360 don't actually like or respect which is yeah i think you really touched on something interesting
00:24:17.540 when you talked about how stressful it can be
00:24:19.780 to be in some of these circles
00:24:20.960 when you're like always afraid of being in trouble.
00:24:24.220 But do you have like larger overarching goals
00:24:27.500 with the streaming that you do
00:24:29.620 or with the way,
00:24:31.300 or like also has what you experienced recently
00:24:34.180 changed what you think you're going to be focusing on
00:24:37.240 with your streaming and with what you talk about?
00:24:39.600 Or are you just going to kind of keep doing what you do,
00:24:41.620 but now feeling like you can talk more freely?
00:24:44.460 I'm going to keep doing what I do
00:24:46.500 and feel like I can talk more freely and if you know I make it known you don't have to agree with
00:24:52.620 my opinion it doesn't mean you can't be a part of my community just be respectful and follow the
00:24:57.560 rules but I have been doing more chatting and interacting with my community because I have
00:25:03.940 that ability now where you know there are more people more people to interact with and we do
00:25:08.880 like reactions to videos which I have so much fun with I've been having more fun with streaming
00:25:14.200 lately than i have in a really long time i used to do just like gaming because i really never had
00:25:19.520 anything to talk about yeah well so i've been doing i every week for a while right now we're
00:25:26.460 on hiatus i would do like a 10-hour stream was leaflet and i hadn't realized what a unique
00:25:32.720 experience it is to whiz a chat for an extended period of times give your true opinions of like
00:25:40.140 the world and i can't even explain to people what it's like because it's such a marathon like the
00:25:45.640 the closest thing i can say is it's like a but yeah it's a completely different way of interacting
00:25:50.640 with reality it's so fun also to the the like one of the things i often say on on on stream when we
00:26:00.760 talk about like the diversity of opinions within our wider community and i really want to emphasize
00:26:05.860 for you like as you enter this wider sort of friend network or whatever they like really do
00:26:11.740 tolerate like any opinion as long as it seems like you're trying to get to the truth and the example
00:26:16.160 i always use of this is like kami mommy shoe on head like shoe on head is obviously adored by
00:26:21.620 everyone in the community and like is an actual socialist and we just don't even care we're like
00:26:25.460 she seems to want to get at what's true and so don't worry about that don't worry about like oh
00:26:31.520 now i'm part of this group like i have to have this set of opinions i hope you don't feel that
00:26:37.020 way no i i'm not changing anything for anyone whether you can watch me you don't have to watch
00:26:44.700 me i'm not changing for anyone i'm not putting on a persona i'm me doing anything else is exhausting
00:26:51.220 the other thing i wanted to talk about that i thought was really fun well and you talk about
00:26:55.540 it being exhausting i've heard other people say this is like this idea that like any vtuber is
00:27:00.120 putting on a voice or a personality is actually very unlikely because it's incredibly exhausting
00:27:04.920 to do that for a long period of time like doing a voice for 10 hours is just not really realistic
00:27:11.520 no no it's very exhausting especially to keep up with it for your community who thinks that
00:27:20.160 you're that person like faking someone you're not or putting on a persona you know i respect those
00:27:26.280 who can do it i can't i don't have the energy i work a full-time job too i don't got that oh my
00:27:32.520 god well it's funny that you mentioned that so we have some friends who are like celebrities
00:27:36.480 and the one thing i've noticed between my friends who are celebrities who absolutely love their fans
00:27:42.940 and my friends who are celebrities who have a very antagonistic relationship with their fans
00:27:47.060 and they kind of like don't like their fan base at all it's is the image that they're showing the
00:27:51.340 world who they really are and if they're showing the world a fake image the type of celebrity or
00:27:56.700 fame that they gain ends up creating an intense animosity with their fan base which is a really
00:28:03.000 sad way to live kind of to be like oh you got everything you ever wanted now you're a superstar
00:28:07.460 but it's really stressful yeah you can't enjoy it yeah when people were in my chat trying to get me
00:28:15.560 to like like that i i you know ai i'm cool with it you know ai is cool has core functions
00:28:23.180 also respect artists i love artists i'm like in the middle with most things but you have to pick
00:28:30.620 a side now yeah but i'm getting a new model because you know with this one i had design
00:28:37.440 restraints because they really we went with more their opinion than most of mine anyway i actually
00:28:45.020 want to talk about that but yeah in respect of the next artist that i really want to work with
00:28:51.820 they're not so into putting their art through ai which i totally understand and respect so i made
00:28:58.860 an announcement to my community that with my new model i would appreciate not putting it through ai
00:29:04.860 but i will give them an option of my model that they can use with ai that isn't using the artist
00:29:12.140 art and so many people were like oh my god this trash tuber is like backing up on her word she's
00:29:19.340 fake she's she's like not who she says she is no people can change their mind and people can
00:29:25.740 change their mind out of respect for other people it doesn't mean you're fake it means you're human
00:29:30.480 absolutely right i i i really hate the people who take pride in having had the same opinion for x
00:29:38.180 many years like i've changed my mind on well virtually everything because you get new information
00:29:43.060 and you change your mind yeah but i wanted to talk about your model because i found it to be
00:29:48.320 an interesting story this where you started was a very sexualized model and you've increasingly
00:29:54.520 moved to a more and more desexualized younger model and originally the the art the rigor who
00:30:02.480 caused all of this drama was like really giving you shade because the the like oh you know you
00:30:09.100 must be a i don't know like pda file type stuff and then your younger model gets super successful
00:30:15.080 and then they move to a model that's younger than your model yeah yeah yeah they made a smaller
00:30:21.500 model after i made like a smaller model they made their smaller and like cutesier and i just think
00:30:29.260 the smaller model for me just fits my personality and my vibe so well and i feel comfortable with it
00:30:36.800 i want people to watch me because they find me funny and entertaining not because they want to
00:30:41.600 date me or you know do stuff with me although you can't prevent that that's going to happen
00:30:45.980 regardless so you know i accept it but i want people to watch me because they enjoy watching
00:30:51.600 me they find me funny they like my content that's what i want the main reason to be and i feel like
00:30:57.280 it just expresses who i am so much better and i love i just love the style i just love it
00:31:04.140 simple i love it no it is it is also something that i i've always found very weird when people
00:31:11.320 are like this lolly style is what children look like and it's like i have children it looks nothing
00:31:16.160 like a child it really doesn't look like a child it's a completely unique archetyistic style and
00:31:21.760 something that didn't really hit me until like i had kids and i saw them every day and i still
00:31:28.640 watch anime and i was like this in no way is evocative of this other thing it's it's a unique
00:31:36.480 artistic medium that is pleasant to look at and when people say it's like oh that must mean you
00:31:43.120 want to sleep with their days what are you talking about you weirdo people self-report so hard yeah
00:31:49.480 yeah it's just it's just like a style of art like chibi or like cartoon it's just like another style
00:31:56.540 of art that's really what it is and but of course there are going to be people who take it to a
00:32:01.400 whole different direction they'll do that with just like anything in the world it doesn't matter
00:32:05.360 what it is there are those people out there well it's it's not just another it's a style that i
00:32:11.480 think chibi also falls into this category that is generally or at least the direction that you take
00:32:16.600 that is an ultra desexualized style.
00:32:19.240 You don't have the boob physics or anything like that.
00:32:22.400 Boob physics.
00:32:23.900 But you also grew as a channel more
00:32:27.700 as you further desexualized.
00:32:30.680 I felt like more comfortable to be myself
00:32:33.420 when I didn't feel like people were just watching
00:32:36.460 the booba physics move up and down or whatever,
00:32:40.260 you know, think thoughts.
00:32:41.900 I thought they were watching me.
00:32:43.180 I felt more comfortable when I...
00:32:46.600 you know think of them of watching me for me because they enjoy me and when people came in
00:32:51.220 my community who have like significant others and partners it made me feel even better i'm like oh my
00:32:56.660 god like girls are watching me couples are watching me like that's so great i'm so happy and
00:33:03.540 they feel safe in this space to just you know relax and have fun yeah well i mean you're gremlin
00:33:10.560 sort of at the the i don't know your persona works very well with a model like this but also
00:33:16.400 doesn't invite i i think it naturally invites like wanting to tease you or something not like
00:33:23.940 wanting to flirt with you or something right yeah it's it's that's not the relationship you have
00:33:29.600 with your audience yeah and even if i do like flirty stuff with them they're all like i mean
00:33:34.420 there are some people who are like yep all right yep i'm in and then but the majority are like
00:33:39.040 nope stop this is cringe please stop it's just so funny the mixed feelings and I you know I'm just
00:33:46.080 an unhinged person I like say what pops in my head I do what I want so having a community that's like
00:33:51.860 cool with that to let me just be me and like do that it's just so fun not you know worrying about
00:34:00.060 oh I can't be flirty because I have like this kind of model or I can't say this or do that
00:34:05.260 Well, how is how actually that's a very interesting question. How have sort of the ways that you interact with your audience evolved as time has gone on? Like, what have you learned about building interacting with an audience over these past three years?
00:34:18.820 when i first started streaming especially as a vtuber model my first vtuber model was a two-tailed
00:34:25.180 fox and very big chest very physics like that very tight clothing very girly girl clothing as well
00:34:33.920 because i thought that's what would drive people in and i built something that wasn't me i was very
00:34:40.160 flirty i was very kind i was very nice i'm not i'm not like that really i'm nice i'm respectful
00:34:47.040 but like i'm not gonna tell my chat like oh my god i love you guys thank you so much
00:34:51.840 or you know call them cuties or whatever no i call them like weirdos and heathens and like
00:34:58.480 like call them the worst things and it's just so much more fun and i just learned over time i don't
00:35:05.940 want to build a community on me not being me i want to build a community on me so those who come
00:35:12.680 and stay that's cool but i want it to be when i'm being me and nothing else and i'm just you know
00:35:19.440 over the years through different models and learning new things i'm finally kind of you
00:35:24.980 know i'm finding my groove and my place and what i'm comfortable but with and what i want
00:35:30.940 that's fascinating i mean that's we i don't what has our experience been it hasn't really
00:35:38.020 been like that like in terms of how we've developed a lot of it's been more technical
00:35:42.680 differences like focusing on the first minute but we're primarily youtubers and you're primarily
00:35:49.040 a streamer so it's a completely different sort of environment in terms of how you interact with
00:35:52.960 people how you handle chat everything like that but it does make sense also your beginning like
00:35:58.680 going on like what are people going to like is different from the beginnings of a lot of other
00:36:03.540 vtubers we were my wife and i were talking this morning about the various vtubers that we have
00:36:09.400 interviewed recently and like the starting story for so many of them was i was about to unalive
00:36:16.440 myself i had just been fired from my job i had just like they're at like their lowest point in
00:36:21.800 life and then they decide to just start putting content out there and i i was like our story is
00:36:29.700 so different i wanted to be famous like yeah i don't they have my story isn't like that
00:36:38.720 your story that like you're like i know i want to do something that works that's fine and um the
00:36:43.800 more i got into it the more i was like i want to build a community because i know what it's like
00:36:47.800 to feel alone or like you don't belong or like you can't have you can't find your people you
00:36:53.420 know it's similar to those stories of why some vtubers start i don't want people to fall into
00:36:59.120 that place i want to have a place for them to make friends to make connections to find people
00:37:05.080 to game with and to just relax and escape the the world we live in yeah well like yeah i can
00:37:12.540 a can building community is obviously like well and i think having other streamers on this one
00:37:18.360 of the reasons we have you in is have a shared cinematic universe for people where they're like
00:37:22.800 oh all of my friends like they're actually they actually know each other as the community expands
00:37:28.020 what was the question i was gonna ask
00:37:30.300 that's fine you feel free to free go what i try to think yeah what i'm dying to i what i'm
00:37:36.300 i'm always curious about this with any streamer because i my big theory is that streamers are the
00:37:42.620 next sort of generation of major political influencers to shape how people view the world
00:37:47.900 because and it's just it's it's an it's a timing and algorithm thing to be successful as a streamer
00:37:52.920 you have to stream for a lot and to get enough time you can't like just game at this point you
00:37:57.140 kind of have to like do reaction videos so then you're going over comment or content but then
00:38:01.220 you're commenting on it and so you're annotating it you become a political commentator because in
00:38:04.900 the end so much of the content out there is political there's only like sort of one global
00:38:08.560 story and it's like kind of whatever's happening in the news or with like police or immigration or
00:38:13.200 tech and so in the end you end up being disproportionately influential because then
00:38:19.040 you have all these clips that end up on youtube because you just have so much more content and
00:38:23.040 it's constantly coming out so when people are looking up commentary on news events they get
00:38:26.640 streamer content this makes me think like oh my gosh like the weight of being a streamer
00:38:31.520 is pretty big if you think about the downstream consequences because what you choose to watch and
00:38:35.520 how you react to it is shaping how a large number of people are coming to view reality
00:38:39.360 in politics and it's going to influence their votes and influence everything else that they do
00:38:43.680 does this like i mean that's why what i so this is all to say i'm really interested in understanding
00:38:50.000 how you choose what you're going to watch do people send you links of like i think you should
00:38:54.720 should watch this on stream do you like have some feed that you check every day where you're like
00:38:58.760 okay this looks like it'll be good this looks like it'll be good how do you choose what it is
00:39:02.240 you're gonna do when you do reaction content well i i you know i'm on like maybe week two
00:39:08.000 of doing reaction content i started off with just you know i made a channel on my discord
00:39:14.300 where people can post stuff but a lot of the stuff they posted i did not enjoy or find funny
00:39:20.260 or understand so stepped away from it a little and then i reacted to rev reacting to me because
00:39:27.800 you know i i let this situation kind of take control for a little and i i watched it i didn't
00:39:34.520 say anything and then i felt you know where it was going i was comfortable speaking again about it
00:39:41.540 i'm not one who really gets into drama that much i mean i'm not gonna say i don't like it it's
00:39:47.940 kind of fun to start it or watch it or be a part of it but i try not to you know my dad's always
00:39:55.180 like take the high road be the adult be the good person but that's not always the fun road anyway
00:40:00.040 i was just choosing things that i thought were funny like my strange addictions or
00:40:06.080 you know someone doing pony play that i thought was funny pony play is so interesting hold on
00:40:13.720 can we take it aside and talk about pony play like oh god what do you think gets you to like
00:40:21.380 have the idea of like this is something i want to try doing it seems really expensive to like
00:40:27.600 invest in even trying it i mean it is the same with vtubing it's expensive but you know they
00:40:34.280 were like it stems from my childhood like a sense of freedom from my child i feel like most things
00:40:40.260 the the thing is it comes from my childhood or trauma i experienced or something i did and
00:40:47.820 you know now i'm an adult and i have adult money and i can do what i want so now i dress up for
00:40:53.360 people who aren't aware sorry i i just realized we have like normal christian moms watching so
00:40:59.060 there are these people who like to dress like ponies in like leather gear so it's like a
00:41:03.720 ponified leather outfit and they like walk around on their hands and knees and they have like a
00:41:09.080 a master who's like their their trainer or whatever and they'll go to gatherings where
00:41:13.960 like multiple of these people will like do tricks or like go around in like circles and stuff like
00:41:20.060 this it's similar with puppy play which also has like my theory on what leads to this stuff is
00:41:25.980 and i'm glad that we have a woman of culture here who knew exactly the topics that would interest
00:41:30.160 me that i stop at the video i'm putting i'm like i want to know more about this well why the heck
00:41:35.360 Because to explain to people why I find this stuff so interesting is if you see an unusual behavior and you see it in multiple people, it's generally worth asking why.
00:41:47.500 Because that means either there's something culturally going on or something evolutionarily going on or something psychologically going on that doesn't fit your standard model of how humans interact.
00:41:59.160 and my guess is pony play and pet play the second one you're talking about comes from people
00:42:05.120 wanting a dom like partner but they want that dom to be caring of them and to care about their
00:42:13.200 well-being like a nice dom and they don't really have many other social context for what it feels
00:42:19.860 like to have like ownership of a thing but still be nice to it oh that's so sad oh makes sense
00:42:26.440 yeah but at the same time you know live your best life but maybe don't bring it publicly
00:42:31.440 not everyone wants to be a part of you know that part of your life i mean the the video we watched
00:42:39.020 the the person went to go you know show their like aunt or whatever who they truly are and they like
00:42:44.380 went in like full attire with their like trotting and then did show them different forms of trotting
00:42:51.600 and galloping and oh my god the ad was so good i bet they like worked pretty i i could not gallop
00:42:57.540 on my knees they're not on their knees they they stood on the two feet yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:43:03.040 and that's even more ridiculous than you think simone it was a heart like horse stores and bought
00:43:09.120 actual like authentic horse gear and they're like i need like you know what the horse puts in their
00:43:15.260 mouth to like when people ride them or whatever they're like i'm looking for that and they're
00:43:20.460 like what size and they like hold up to their mouth they're like above this this size and the
00:43:26.080 lady looks at her like oh okay they've got to be used to it by now honestly well think about it
00:43:34.960 this i mean hermes was originally for equestrians so like maybe if you're really into that kind of
00:43:41.480 like good construction and you're like look only horses get it now like people have been turned on
00:43:46.580 by all sorts of weird stuff throughout the ages but like the weird thing is beginning to identify
00:43:50.580 with it right like beginning to think no this is a meaningful and important part of how i need
00:43:55.860 other people to see me and i feel like this is partially culturally downstream of people feeling
00:44:02.320 ashamed of identifying with like their culture or their religion because people will be like oh
00:44:07.700 you're you're proud to be an american or whatever you shouldn't that's that's a bad thing to be
00:44:12.420 right like that's racist or something and so because you can't be proud of anything you need
00:44:17.300 to come up with new things to be proud of and if you're not lucky enough to be like gay or something
00:44:22.740 then you have to like make up some new identity for yourself yeah that makes sense like at some
00:44:29.540 point being like a straight white female was like lame and boring i was like uh people ask me like
00:44:35.440 what i am i'm like i'm just just straight white female i'm nothing i'm boring i'm lame like you
00:44:40.120 know they have all these colorful flags and stuff and then there's ours that's like non-existent or
00:44:45.600 like black and white or just like not fun because apparently being just you know straight is just
00:44:51.120 not cool anymore well it's it's true but i will say you talk about growing up as a tomboy do you
00:45:00.580 still identify as like a tomboy like i'm not a girl who likes to wear like frilly things and
00:45:07.360 skirts and get dressed up. I mean, I went through a phase
00:45:10.140 where I was like, super into makeup, because it was fun. But
00:45:12.940 like, I walk dogs for a living. So anyway, regardless, I'm
00:45:18.940 always an active wear. And it's just because because it's so
00:45:22.240 comfortable. It's one of my favorite things. I'm not someone
00:45:25.520 who wants to get dressed up. I, you know, I am more a bit of a
00:45:29.320 tomboy. I don't like jewelry. I've never really liked that
00:45:32.160 stuff. I don't get my nails painted. I bite my nails like
00:45:35.500 i've always been someone who can get down and dirty and you know be one of i've always been
00:45:41.040 one of the guys i've always fit in with guys better than girls always yeah the reason i i
00:45:48.780 elevate this point is because within the column of straight white female there's a bunch of ways
00:45:57.320 that are totally unique and are you know perceptually like tomboy being one of them
00:46:03.540 of being a straight white female but they don't count to people because they're just under straight
00:46:08.620 white female so so they don't count as like a meaningful way of presenting yourself or anything
00:46:14.040 like that until you label them something like i'm actually ex-sexual or something and then
00:46:22.700 you can have all this pride in that and you can have flags around it and you can have
00:46:26.660 when a lot of these people who identify this stuff i doubt they're really that different from you in
00:46:31.080 terms of how they feel I've gone through phases where I thought maybe I was asexual but it turns
00:46:37.740 out you know I was just like recovering from like my own real stuff going on and really focusing on
00:46:43.320 my recovery that I didn't really think of anything else I wasn't asexual but because of everything
00:46:47.720 going on I thought you know maybe I was or you know maybe I was by someone like tried to brainwash
00:46:55.040 me to make me think that i like you know i was bisexual which i'm not nothing wrong with it but
00:47:01.520 i'm not you know i i'm i'm happily straight happily yeah my my wife by the way is is fairly
00:47:08.000 close to asexual which is which is interesting because if you if you put us in the labeling
00:47:13.060 category asexual is a type of gender queer and if you're gender queer you're technically in the
00:47:17.960 trans community so my wife is technically in the trans community if you go it's all there
00:47:22.180 there you go congratulations you're cool yeah you're cool i think i have a flag so that's good
00:47:28.620 yeah yeah you're one of the cool people where's the street flag but i wanted to talk about other
00:47:34.560 other video categories that you've enjoyed that your audience has recommended for you
00:47:38.420 like what are you watching these days they love cop slop which i also enjoy so funny
00:47:45.540 so funny oh my god these people are ridiculous it hurts it hurts that they exist in the world
00:47:51.580 and that they're like legal adults that can like do stuff oh my god it's fun that cop slop is
00:47:58.340 coming back when i was a kid cop slop was very common there was these shows called like what
00:48:05.520 were the shows called simone i know just cops it's called cops cops oh yes cops and they played
00:48:11.220 constantly and it was just like an equivalent of cop slop today but now you have the streamers
00:48:18.280 covering it where you get to see somebody else being like we can all agree this is ridiculous
00:48:22.900 right you know which you couldn't do in those old 90s shows but there was like this period
00:48:27.480 where there wasn't any cop flop and then thank god for body cams right
00:48:30.980 nothing has made us so hard with what they go through they're not perfect but oh my god from
00:48:40.200 the videos that you watch oh good god no you wouldn't want their job respect cops so much
00:48:46.060 more to be like oh my god what a fucking and honestly honestly the job that they do especially
00:48:53.680 when combined with the lack of respect they were getting for it for a long time is just us i could
00:49:00.360 not deal with these people the patience they have yes yeah they could never i could never the the
00:49:07.520 one that i saw recently that was just like wild did you see the one where the lady grabs the cop's
00:49:12.500 gun in its holster and shoots it no i'm just getting into it i don't want to overdo it too
00:49:19.020 fast you know the last night we were watching like chris hansen oh beautiful the classic
00:49:25.420 that guy brought a pizza over and he was eating while he was like getting it was so funny
00:49:31.440 oh you know what could actually be pretty fun to react to and i haven't seen anyone do it
00:49:37.320 is old like best of like mari you know like the do you even know what mari is it might be before
00:49:44.320 your time so there used to be these shows jerry springer was the most the most oh yeah yeah i know
00:49:51.580 him that whole like i thought mari was better than jerry springer he got trashier yes
00:49:56.700 where they would find people who just were like in some way completely fucking degen whatever
00:50:05.940 and then they'd have them on show
00:50:07.940 and they'd like talk them through it
00:50:09.460 and my favorite was the teenage girl
00:50:12.340 who was desperate to get pregnant
00:50:13.560 she was like 14 and she has the line like
00:50:16.960 my name is Victoria and I'm 15 years old
00:50:19.620 and I don't care what my mama says
00:50:21.100 I'm gonna have a baby
00:50:22.360 I will do whatever it takes to take care of my baby
00:50:24.840 if it has 10,000 prostitutes in my body
00:50:26.640 then so be it
00:50:27.660 I'm gonna just my baby in all brand names
00:50:30.180 and if I can't support it
00:50:31.360 then I guess I'm gonna steal it
00:50:32.740 my mama thinks that I'm not ready to have a baby
00:50:35.540 but i have everything my baby will need i'm not just having sex with one not two but three
00:50:41.060 different guys that's right i'm a player but that's cool because i got it like that
00:50:46.180 my life dreams are to drop out of school to be on girls count wild and to have my baby
00:50:51.300 and there's nothing my super mother can say to change my mind she was the best she was the best
00:50:57.300 of trashiness in the internet age and it's sad oh oh that's so funny i should i should definitely
00:51:04.340 to look into that i mean we were also watching stuff like pond stars and i was just looking for
00:51:09.880 the episodes where people get like really angry and like create a commotion i was having trouble
00:51:15.640 finding them but this this reminds me of like when you talk about drama i i think i am in this
00:51:21.740 interesting position with drama where i love watching drama videos if it's like about a like
00:51:28.000 a furry celebrity who ended up like crashing out and losing all their fans and it's like turkey tom
00:51:33.040 or whatever i'm like i could watch just like a chain of those but within my real life i've entered
00:51:39.400 this stage of life where we have like a no drama because i've cut out like the family members who
00:51:45.620 previously would have caused or like the people who previously caused drama and then within our
00:51:50.800 community there just isn't a lot of inter-community drama like none of this this community that you're
00:51:57.240 being introduced to like they're the most supportive people i have met in my entire life
00:52:01.140 like none of them have ever in any way backstabbed me it's been really shocking because now as an
00:52:08.920 adult i look back on so many eras of my life and i was like wait i just didn't have to be friends
00:52:16.140 with the people like imagine that it's for to save so much time and energy if i had just known that
00:52:23.860 it was really odd that we all just kind of grew up thinking we had to it was very stressful
00:52:28.500 to like i i can't say these things and i can't think these things and i can't believe these
00:52:33.760 things and they're just certain things it's it's very strange it's a lot worse now it is a lot
00:52:39.220 worse now yeah i think that's why so many people are breaking i mean that's why like there's a
00:52:43.240 whole i guess community of people online that are like considered heterodox left like well
00:52:48.840 they're still left in all things it's just that they've been rejected once for saying the wrong
00:52:53.540 thing and they're just starting to get too fed up with it because it's a little too stressful
00:52:56.340 but like really nothing has changed about their political views or anything else which is really
00:53:01.440 funny to me i mean my favorite example of this is like jk rowling jk rowling is like actually
00:53:06.720 like a a socialist leftist in everything that you could be a leftist on and they just couldn't leave
00:53:13.620 this one issue alone and they like genuinely radicalized this woman yeah i mean that was like
00:53:20.760 what i felt when i went on my rant i was like i just can't deal with this anymore like men saying
00:53:26.200 thinking i just i can't i can't it's so irritating no you cannot you cannot well i mean you know
00:53:35.120 what they do right you you you didn't talk about it in your rant but they are you familiar with
00:53:40.340 this where they they know what is it that they freeze is it like animal blood it's like v8 or
00:53:46.820 something yeah v8 they freeze something along those lines and they put it in their butts
00:53:50.940 why and then they say signs up for this this is a i i love it you're like i'm traumatizing you
00:54:01.000 and here when people act like this is like an extremist position they're like how could you
00:54:06.900 be canceled keep in mind this is aoc's position like aoc has tweets saying oh i think she's i
00:54:13.880 think she's since deleted it you know she's trying to run for president so she has to get rid of some
00:54:18.180 of these stances but look i mean there's there's also been this this big i think cancellation
00:54:22.820 recently online or like big thing where people freaked out because someone had a i think a
00:54:29.260 non-binary or possibly trans person on their podcast who is trying to argue that trans women
00:54:36.320 actually had a better i guess understanding or appreciation of true femininity which i actually
00:54:43.040 kind of agree with and that's one of the things that really annoys me and that's this here's the
00:54:46.480 that's a spicy take Simone so you think trans women have a look at look okay if you if you
00:54:52.460 are a woman if you are a natal woman and you have actually menstruated and you have actually like
00:54:57.160 been pregnant or given birth if you've actually gone through female puberty
00:55:00.200 it's it's like the difference between being a boy who loves toy soldiers in war movies and then
00:55:06.880 like actually going to war right so trans women who have never gone through this stuff
00:55:13.000 to have this very beautiful idealized picture of what femininity is and any natal female who's
00:55:20.180 gone through puberty doesn't because they know what actual femininity is and it's not so pretty
00:55:27.520 and there's a difference between biological reality and gender stereotypes and to be trans
00:55:33.460 to be trans female is to be this more pure version of female because it's separating out
00:55:39.620 the ideals of femininity and the performance of femininity from the reality of femininity which
00:55:47.120 is being disgusting as is demonstrated by the act of menstruation and a bunch of other things
00:55:53.500 so i 100 hold that point i don't know why see i see i think it it kind of undoes the that this
00:56:02.460 this idealization of femininity to attempt to menstruate as a trans woman because this is
00:56:07.100 it's very unfeminine i mean as much as like it's a very feminine thing
00:56:11.100 bleeding out of your like nethers is not
00:56:14.600 it's not elegant okay it's not chic it's not chic so i i hold that you know but like
00:56:22.200 i just wish that we could have these discussions with trans people with people on the left with
00:56:27.100 anyone you know because like i couldn't i mean maybe i could bring that up with a trans person
00:56:32.040 but they'd be so like i i don't know but your criticism was like so mild so restrained and the
00:56:39.760 you were so reasonable and also just factual which is the other issue that you lured them
00:56:46.120 from blue sky back to twitter which is that's saying a lot man like yeah and they're actually
00:56:53.740 threatening some friends of mine to no longer be my friend and people are creating like a blacklist
00:56:59.800 of people who are still you know in communication with me and you know oh my god like i'm so glad
00:57:07.640 i'm living rent free in your head but come on move on well this is actually i think a very
00:57:13.340 important thing that they do this from their perspective because they create this bubble
00:57:19.040 where you can't talk to anyone with specific views because if you did you would see that
00:57:26.020 they're reasonable nice people and so the only way that you your community can stay in this bubble
00:57:31.880 where the other side and i know this bubble i know you know growing up what i thought conservatives
00:57:37.800 right i thought they were like angry hillbillies who lived in the woods right like i i i genuinely
00:57:43.580 really in my mind thought of them in quite a dehumanized fashion and i was able to think this
00:57:51.400 because i hadn't interacted with the community because if i did interact with the community
00:57:55.680 all of my friends would leave me and since then all of my friends have left me so whatever right
00:58:00.880 you know what do you have to lose now yeah that's a well it's it's like a memetic protection device
00:58:08.540 and i think it's not like an intentional thing i just think the parts of leftist culture that
00:58:12.860 didn't attempt to socially isolate othering ideas typically die out because if more people in your
00:58:19.620 community start being like oh they meet your new friends and your new friends aren't evil
00:58:24.000 and they're like okay well what what ideas do you have why do you think these things
00:58:29.400 and then they begin to and they hear people like simone who's even has this crazy take
00:58:33.120 that trans women are more women it is not a crazy no it's feminine whatever i hear correct
00:58:41.180 i i i see what you're saying you use a lot of big words that i don't necessarily understand
00:58:47.720 but i think i got the point words are fun look look i'm all about words there are so many words
00:58:54.660 like ninny hammer that we all need to bring back i'm obsessed with words you gotta you got a word
00:59:01.480 i barely speak english as it is so do i honestly but this is why i need the extra words oh yeah
00:59:09.240 yeah yeah yeah yeah well it was great to have you on yes and congratulations on congratulations
00:59:16.540 blacklisted by all of your friends thank you i'm honored my dad's really proud of me oh you know
00:59:24.280 this is this is what you want to go for saying the most normal thing in the world it wasn't even
00:59:30.660 political you had a normal opinion they i bet even in their social circles even among the ones who
00:59:38.680 are looking to cancel you 90 of them probably secretly believe all of that stuff they just
00:59:45.080 know they're not allowed to say it right i've had like people of the the community reach out to me
00:59:49.260 saying you know they support me they like you know they agree with me well that's that's where
00:59:56.820 we are but it's like political suicide to actually like come out yeah oh yeah yeah but guys check out
01:00:02.640 her content it's it's not a lot of it is political which makes it very different than the other
01:00:06.340 content we have although it's just fun yuki water is really fun it's just really fun yeah
01:00:11.680 i text your your yuki water wait what's your username on x it's yuki waru and then that like
01:00:19.600 dash at the end but you don't really have to worry about the dash because if you type it in
01:00:23.840 it should show up but someone actually has like my name on x so i just had to add a dash
01:00:31.080 how did you choose it how'd you choose your name actually my artist helped me pick out my name
01:00:37.180 yuki means snow and waru translates to brat so yeah okay that's a good one
01:00:47.460 yeah well done you know you know you pick friends well and sometimes your friends just choose to
01:00:54.580 unpick you but yeah that's a good one yeah yes it is um i hope you grow i i do have a feeling that
01:01:01.620 you're probably at the beginning of doing more politics stuff because that's generally where
01:01:05.820 this goes we've we've done a number we caught you at like day one at moment one after first
01:01:12.720 cancellation event but you go to something like leaflet leaflet never did politics stuff
01:01:16.920 and then she played like hogwarts legacy and she got canceled and then she was like you know what
01:01:22.740 i am going to react to politics videos and then people started to so much of like our community
01:01:29.880 like you said is just for me this no you can't tell me what i'm allowed to say i'm going to say
01:01:35.560 what i believe and now i'm gonna say even more than what i believe because you're a meanie and
01:01:40.740 then a new community forms and you're like oh these people they like hearing what i actually
01:01:45.200 think so let's all encourage her to have more takes yes yes thank you so much for joining us
01:01:52.940 thank you so much for having me all right i'll hit then he's probably then he then he moves his
01:02:02.720 head around
01:02:03.440 looking for food.
01:02:06.100 See, that's the mouse.
01:02:11.440 Oh, God, I'm really afraid
01:02:12.800 of doing this.
01:02:14.500 Should I take tongs or my finger?
01:02:17.200 What did you say again?
01:02:18.320 Well, I'm going to take the letter out because I'm just going to throw her
01:02:20.700 out of this. Why?
01:02:22.140 Here we go.
01:02:24.340 Okay, all right, that's fine.
01:02:25.840 Can I touch him?
01:02:27.780 No, absolutely not. But you are going to
01:02:30.120 touch him. No, I was not going to touch her.
01:02:32.720 No, Amy, don't put the lid on the ground.
01:02:34.720 She's moving a lot more.
01:02:37.040 Yeah, now she doesn't have the envelope to hide in.
01:02:39.940 So what I'm going to do is I'm going to walk her across the creek,
01:02:43.540 and I'm going to put her somewhere where she'll be very happy,
01:02:46.160 and she's not going to poop all over her house and eat her food.
01:02:48.500 Can I come to see you, Mommy?
01:02:50.340 No, Tristan, I need you to finish your smoothie.
01:02:52.880 And go to bed.
01:02:53.940 What's the smell inside?
01:02:55.740 What's the smell?
01:02:56.480 The smell is what it smells.
01:02:58.080 Ew, I smell bad.
01:03:00.120 Oh, it smells bad in there?
01:03:01.900 Well, then, you know what?
01:03:02.780 Maybe the mouse poops.
01:03:04.400 What do you think?
01:03:05.060 I don't see it.
01:03:06.900 What do you see?
01:03:08.060 It's too predictable from mouses.
01:03:12.920 I dropped my smoothie back.
01:03:15.200 Yeah, you dropped my smoothie.
01:03:16.240 The mouse is so cute.
01:03:18.680 Okay, you guys ready to say goodbye to the mouse?
01:03:20.740 I'm going to take her.
01:03:21.540 Mommy.
01:03:22.380 Yeah.
01:03:23.700 All right, bye, mouse.
01:03:25.440 Bye.
01:03:27.080 I hope I see you again.
01:03:29.220 I hope we don't, because if we see her again, it'll be her dead body.
01:03:33.300 We're going to kill all the mice in our house, okay?
01:03:34.980 Mommy.
01:03:35.460 The only reason she's alive is because I found her and caught her, okay?
01:03:39.480 Mommy.
01:03:40.060 Is that safe?
01:03:40.460 I don't want to put her in the rock garden.
01:03:44.080 We're not going to put her in the rock garden.
01:03:45.520 We're going to take her far, far away.
01:03:47.440 And where?
01:03:48.400 I'm going to walk her across the creek.
01:03:49.680 On the other side of the creek?
01:03:50.600 Yeah, I don't want her here.
01:03:52.260 I don't want to keep her up, Mommy.
01:03:54.360 Girl, I love you, but we're not keeping the mouse.
01:03:57.180 We're not keeping the mouse.
01:03:57.900 this is not your mouse girl oh my god