Based Camp - August 05, 2026


As Community Erodes, Women Find New Ways to Bully & Cheat


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00:00:00.000 Everybody complains that as we've broken down our sense of community, that it's removed the opportunity for friendship, for, you know, love, for a sense of community.
00:00:12.140 But it also removed the ability for people who get turned on by, like, cheating with people and then harassing their spouses from having a community of, like, mean girls they can do that with, right?
00:00:24.720 So they had to reinvent these spaces for the new world of the internet.
00:00:28.240 would you like to know more hello simone today we will be talking about an incident 0.69
00:00:35.180 that the mary sue the mary sue the most leftist you know degenerate thing you can imagine right
00:00:43.320 as a news article okay their title on this is what i can only describe as pure degeneracy 0.64
00:00:50.300 proud cheaters sued for allegedly using a cheating coach business to bully betrayed spouses
00:00:57.640 wow i mean whoa i wait
00:01:04.240 no this is peak girl no this is okay i've come to a conclusion the gears to finish processing 1.00
00:01:11.700 this is peak girl boss feminism right because what you saw was a whole bunch of influencers 1.00
00:01:16.880 all selling their courses and all the courses on legitimate things well they ran out and so 0.89
00:01:21.800 then they went to mlms but then all the mlm was like they ran out like they they've gone bankrupt
00:01:26.300 or become scandalous or people have gotten smart to it so the only thing left for them to sell
00:01:30.760 courses on is cheating and the communities that they created for some examples of the what we'll
00:01:41.500 get into here and what we'll be able to take away from because it's important to try to learn some
00:01:45.440 lesson from this avoid this etc right what's the lesson maybe don't create a course on how to cheat 1.00
00:01:52.180 well so they would go into the private paid community for cheating women and share stuff
00:01:59.580 like stories about how they had slept with the partner while the other partner was like
00:02:04.160 asleep in the bed or in the same house or this is this like a cuck thing or that they had used the 0.76
00:02:11.520 other partner's sex toys or that they had taken pictures of the original partner that included 0.95
00:02:19.320 their kids and put them next to pictures of herself to ask which is more attractive in the
00:02:25.980 community like and this is what eventually caused the lawsuit was all the shared private information 0.98
00:02:32.760 but it's a fascinating phenomenon that i wanted to dig into that it has even mortified the mary
00:02:41.800 sue and it's been developing for a while it's been developing as a situation over a number of years
00:02:46.960 people have been covering it for a number of years but now we basically have the full story
00:02:50.820 and where things are all right well so chelsea smallwood a tiktok creator who made being a
00:02:56.860 cheater her entire platform is now facing a lawsuit after her cheating business shared
00:03:01.420 private information and betrayed spouses to further bully and mock them now note here this 0.77
00:03:07.240 is from the mary sue article so you know it's the maximum lefty slop here there i'm not pulling any
00:03:13.220 punches and what's also fascinating about this is is what it really appeared to be when they talk
00:03:18.980 about bully and mocking them you say is this a cuck fetish it appeared to genuinely be a fetish 0.93
00:03:24.240 a a fetish around basically the other side of an ntr fetish like getting turned on by the thought 0.98
00:03:31.360 of humiliating somebody's partner by sleeping with their their partner and in that way the
00:03:39.140 paid community where they could without judgment talk about this the the that sort of heightened
00:03:48.220 the erotic nature of what they were doing
00:03:51.140 yeah they seemed they liked this it wasn't like oh phew i'm glad i got away with that
00:03:58.100 well yeah and we'll go over it's also very funny like what a what a cheating coach does like the
00:04:06.200 idea that she would like sit down with these people and like talk them through like all the
00:04:11.820 emotional parts of cheating with something right like you need a psychologist for this but somebody
00:04:17.460 who won't judge you right so you talk through the emotions of like well is he spending too much time
00:04:24.880 with her it's like well it is his wife oh i thought it was for practical things like make sure that
00:04:32.060 you guys communicate using this app and if you want to receive gift from gifts from him make sure
00:04:36.880 that you do it this way so the wife doesn't find out or things like that the core thing seemed to
00:04:40.900 be about like the bragging and humiliating part but there was stuff on like how to get around
00:04:46.340 tracking apps and stuff like that and we'll get around that onto that so smallwood started gaining
00:04:50.660 traction on the social on social media for posting quote-unquote cheating content calling 0.65
00:04:55.920 herself the other woman and the wife she made several tiktok videos bragging about her affair
00:05:02.140 One such video was titled, Things Your Husband Did While He Was In An Affair With Me.
00:05:07.140 In the video, she dances joyously while bragging about things she and her cheating partner did,
00:05:12.080 such as going on a trip with her on his and his wife's anniversary and setting up a secret bank
00:05:17.720 account to hide all the trips and gifts he was buying Smallwood. Smallwood made dozens of similar
00:05:23.880 TikToks talking unapologetically about her affair and demonizing victims of cheating,
00:05:29.040 claiming it was relatable affair content she eventually decided to turn the other woman and 0.99
00:05:35.720 wife into a business featuring podcasts retreats and private communities for cheaters to congregate 0.99
00:05:41.880 and exchange tips and resources and i'll post a video of one of her tiktoks here so you guys can
00:05:48.020 get an idea of what these looked like phone while he was with me and i could hear everything lied to
00:05:53.920 you repeatedly about where he was and again just to check in on the video that she's posting with
00:05:58.100 It's her cheersing while she drinks cocktails with this music.
00:06:02.800 Didn't tell you the actual full truth when you caught him.
00:06:06.140 Technically, I cheated.
00:06:07.380 I will admit that.
00:06:08.260 I turned away from my spouse of three years and I hurt him because of that choice.
00:06:11.500 But that doesn't mean I define myself as a cheater.
00:06:14.300 To this day, I reject the motto of once a cheater, always a cheater.
00:06:18.020 It's reductionist and judgmental.
00:06:20.980 She isn't the first person to have the idea of turning cheating into a business platform.
00:06:24.320 from smallwood to ashley madison to the incest spotlight on amy roach or tj holmes there have 0.57
00:06:31.960 long big pushes to normalize infidelity provide resources to cheaters and profit off of affairs
00:06:37.420 however normalizing infidelity wasn't smallwood's only mission she took things to another level 1.00
00:06:42.140 when she allegedly attempted to make cyberbullying and harassment of victims infidelity part of the 1.00
00:06:46.800 business too chelsea smallwood and her businesses sued by cheating victim part of the other woman
00:06:52.400 and a wife actually a coaching does this smallwood who has a ba in economics has no qualifications
00:06:57.900 to serve as a life coach or counselor i love when leftist gatekeep around counseling yet her website 1.00
00:07:03.640 has an application form in which individuals can get one-on-one coaching oh no you'd say basically 1.00
00:07:09.460 the mary sue's problem here is that she wasn't to teach women how to better cheat on their 1.00
00:07:22.340 husbands that she needed to be a licensed psychologist like that seems to be for them 1.00
00:07:28.440 the bigger problem like how dare she i would assume actually that a woman who spends her 1.00
00:07:37.760 entire career talking about cheating would know more about cheating than a psychologist would
00:07:44.520 right like truly no i if i wanted to cheat on you malcolm i and i wanted a coach for it i would
00:07:50.840 probably go with the woman who cheats a lot allegedly i guess i want proof of the cheating
00:07:56.280 because we don't know this is all just some rage bait she made up to get followers oh no no no no 0.88
00:08:02.160 the relationships broke up everything like that oh okay okay well as long as she has a track record 1.00
00:08:07.180 yeah i mean i don't know how much track record she had after she became the cheating woman 1.00
00:08:11.960 right like i i'd have some questions about that like i i especially dating her or something like
00:08:20.760 it's going to come out eventually right and no i mean that's how one of the the person who found
00:08:28.040 out about this found out is they joined her community to find their husband on it being
00:08:32.420 posted by one of the other members of the community now she says she joined it because
00:08:36.360 she was suspicious but we'll see we'll see one of the coaches working with smallwood was olivia
00:08:41.860 nicodermis who had an affair with her best friend and neighbor's husband things took an ugly turn
00:08:47.800 when Nicodemus allegedly began using the other woman community to share private information
00:08:51.920 about Kristen Jacobs, the victim of her affair. Oh, great. I love it's like their best friend and
00:08:57.660 everything like that, right? Like Jacobs has filed a lawsuit against the other woman and the wife,
00:09:04.060 Smallwood and Nicodemus seeking damages after Smallwood and Nicodemus allegedly used the 0.78
00:09:08.020 cheating business to encourage the harassment of her. After learning of her husband, Nicodemus'
00:09:12.840 affair, Jacobs started researching the other woman and a wife and was horrified when she
00:09:16.720 stumbled on a tiktok reel of smallwood reading her private text messages about her affair out
00:09:23.660 loud word per word in an attempt to find out how smallwood got this information jacobs anonymously
00:09:29.920 joined the other woman community and saw nicodemus had been posting private information
00:09:33.940 including identifying information like her full name pictures of her children and even disclose 0.50
00:09:38.320 details of private health matters the information and text messages were allegedly posted publicly
00:09:44.760 so that other cheaters in the community could mock bully and harass jacobs for being a victim
00:09:48.300 that's not why they know why it's because it turned the person on to share the information
00:09:52.840 like the humiliation was part of it for this and to prove that they'd actually done it like you
00:09:57.140 said how do you know they're really doing it right yeah so hold on i wonder so when you wrote the
00:10:01.920 practice guide to sexuality you described some people as really only being able to become to be
00:10:08.200 aroused by people with whom they had a strong emotional connection which actually explains rule
00:10:12.240 34 because like you know you grew up watching daphne on scooby-doo and so now you know you
00:10:17.900 you need to whatever we're not going to get into that right but like maybe there's this this
00:10:22.380 cheating there's some kind of weird perversion of that particular pattern whereby you can only
00:10:29.360 really feel something if you're hurting someone who you deeply like know like your best friend
00:10:34.500 well cheating in males generally speaking um for well cheating in males just seems like look men
00:10:41.180 are like there's like an obvious biological reason yes women it's different women it's weird right
00:10:46.600 but it makes sense that sometimes females may get parts of a male arousal pattern that's what this
00:10:54.560 looks like to me and in addition think about the things that she's showing off they're all they're
00:11:00.440 not the sex is so good there are things like he took me on a vacation he has a private bank account
00:11:07.240 i think it's about self-validation that i could get this male to spend resources on me even though
00:11:13.040 it's again that that's the point right and that is something that many women would value from an
00:11:17.180 evolutionary perspective right yes no for sure yes give you more stuff i get 0.84
00:11:22.760 so the affair isn't even it's not even really about the intimate stuff that happens okay yes
00:11:31.660 however it got worse in the lawsuit jacobs claims that small would encourage nicodemus to publicly
00:11:36.820 admit to horrific acts such as bragging about spying on jacobs during intimate moments with
00:11:41.820 her husband and using jacobs sex toys on herself without consent the tiktok influencer the dad
00:11:46.980 advocate summed up the law piece best stating that smallwood nicodemus and their company are 0.97
00:11:51.640 being sued for what i can only describe as pure degeneracy that's why you shouldn't have sex toys
00:11:56.660 because you never know what could be happening to them yeah and the dad advocate had noted how
00:12:03.040 a lot of online sleuths has been very important to this however she didn't act quickly enough
00:12:08.640 as users found because she tried to remove her tiktok oh she wiped her tiktok well hopefully i
00:12:12.920 can still find some stuff uh no no people have changed claims they found a public comment from
00:12:17.680 nicodema offering to give a user a comparison photo to prove she was better looking than jacobs
00:12:22.240 as well as a comment from smallwood in which she claims to have contacted jacob's therapist
00:12:27.360 and been told she was a useless cause what 1.00
00:12:31.920 from smallwood so the woman who was cheating on this lady contacted her therapist and said that 1.00
00:12:41.640 the woman who the therapist was being a therapist for was a useless cause wait wait wait isn't she 1.00
00:12:47.760 claiming that the therapist said that the victim of her cruelty was a no no she's trying to get 1.00
00:12:52.840 the therapist to dump the victim of her cruelty oh oh gosh that's ridiculous it's for money it's 0.99
00:12:59.340 not to help people lady she must be too convinced that therapy culture helps anything it's not
00:13:08.440 necessarily wrong to acknowledge that infidelity and relationships can be far more complex than we
00:13:13.820 have it on its surface however the smallwood situation demonstrates that there should be a
00:13:17.740 limit i love a progressive paper here being like look we all know that infidelity is fine
00:13:24.020 but like can we have a limit on this
00:13:27.080 attempting to raise awareness for the complexity of some cases of infidelity
00:13:35.560 is very different from outright glorifying cheaters and encouraging cheaters to be unapologetic
00:13:40.760 for unnecessary and harmful actions is it though additionally as proud as smallwood and nicodemus
00:13:47.640 claim to be about their affairs their alleged actions suggest they're on they're on the contrary
00:13:52.980 deeply ashamed insecure and unfathomably jealous they're hardly the people who should be coaching
00:13:58.060 cheating spouses if they themselves are so clearly insecure in their affair relationships
00:14:02.660 i love this applying if you're emotionally mature that's the type of person who should be cheating
00:14:08.220 not these types of women by the way just in case you're wondering who saw it from this perspective
00:14:14.300 the writer it works for mary sue but usually covers dc marvel and star wars
00:14:20.200 you wonder how those those things got so bad you wonder how you wonder how so i wanted to talk
00:14:28.940 about this from the meta perspective of how things like cheating get glorified and how things like
00:14:37.100 divorce can act as a contagion but before i get into that i want to hear your thoughts simone
00:14:43.900 because that's obviously what the audience wants to hear that's what they're here for
00:14:48.420 I'm so depressed by this although I also wish I could just wander through I you know how I am
00:14:58.640 like when I discover some new perverted thing that people do I want to understand it so much 0.99
00:15:04.740 more and I had no idea that women were into this it sounds to me like next level mean girling 0.93
00:15:10.940 like high school's over and you're kind of devastated that you can't terrorize female 0.82
00:15:15.740 peers anymore and then they just like this this one group of mean girls tapped in to this new 1.00
00:15:21.920 channel by which they can immiserate women in their lives because they don't go to like the 1.00
00:15:29.520 same school they're not stuck in the same classes every day very true there's no opportunities to
00:15:35.880 terrorize other people like this yeah if that's like your thing and to like show how dominant you
00:15:41.660 are and how much better you are and you're prettier and yeah and you can't yeah you can't
00:15:46.100 put people down the same way it's just like our society isn't really set up for that anymore
00:15:50.320 there aren't like you know it used to be that you were in a really tight-knit community like in the
00:15:55.940 in the 50s all the girls in your neighborhood might meet together for their bridge club every
00:16:00.480 week and you'd go to church and you could all you know you could be a mean girl there you could put 0.50
00:16:04.900 her you could put all the other girls down and talk about how cheap their sunday best was and 0.78
00:16:09.660 how pathetic you know it is actually a really good point are things like cheating club everybody
00:16:15.560 complains that as we've broken down our sense of community that it's removed the opportunity 0.86
00:16:21.120 for friendship for you know love for a sense of community but it also removed the ability for
00:16:30.360 people who get turned on by like cheating with people and then harassing their spouses from
00:16:36.280 having a community of like mean girls they can do that with right so they had to reinvent these
00:16:41.420 spaces for the new world of the internet and they found they tapped into a little vein of gold here
00:16:47.380 and i i wish i could explore it because this is fascinating i haven't been so fascinated by
00:16:52.560 something until i discovered people stuck sharpies in a place that i never thought they would stick
00:16:56.400 sharpies i love your like but why but why very much of the kids in south park when they're like 0.62
00:17:05.700 chef what would a priest want to stick up my butt it's just like good day but that's you that's you 0.98
00:17:12.680 with this stuff yeah why would he put anything in your butt we don't know or that's what we're 0.99
00:17:16.460 trying to figure out hmm hello there children chef what would a priest want to stick up my butt 0.99
00:17:25.140 goodbye but why do they stick them up their butt i want to know what i wanted to know 0.98
00:17:36.620 i wanted to know i wanted to understand the googly eyes as well 0.51
00:17:39.600 i love also and like the podcast the way she talks about this stuff 1.00
00:17:44.860 so let's go over some of her her own framings about this please it needs one woman to be 0.90
00:17:53.880 betrayed and one woman to be the homewrecker because if both of their loves are real the
00:18:01.000 whole framework collapses two women loved the same man both knew him both saw something
00:18:07.800 both stayed for reasons that made sense from the inside
00:18:12.200 this is where to for that to make sense to somebody it does make sense to somebody in
00:18:21.200 the urban monoculture in the urban monoculture because like love is supposed to be your guide
00:18:26.160 in life and the thing that determines what you do and why you do it you know you you're like
00:18:30.440 legit able to go out there and be like yeah but i loved him so of course i cheated right like what
00:18:37.880 else would i do when i love somebody i have to have sex with them let's do something that
00:18:44.640 potentially explodes their life and stability yeah yeah no i actually i think a lot of this is is
00:18:51.280 is downstream of the normalization of the lg the or the way that the gay movement fought for equal
00:18:58.980 rights because that was actually the logic that they used and that you know worked for a lot of
00:19:05.100 people when they didn't put a lot of thought into it which is well am i supposed to go my whole life
00:19:11.200 without sleeping with someone who i love and being married to them right like am i supposed to go
00:19:17.560 my entire existence without being able to have sex with the people who turn me on and when i first
00:19:25.380 heard that argument as a kid i was like that makes perfect sense of course i should get the things i
00:19:34.380 want right and then as i said in the past the thing that broke me out of that argument was the
00:19:39.200 way that the leftists have decided to treat incels who cannot sleep with the things that they like
00:19:45.200 right and they think that that is funny and a reason to denigrate them and a sign that they
00:19:50.080 are low status and that is when i was like oh sorry i didn't understand you meant hot men and
00:19:57.980 women should be able to sleep with whoever they want well all women and hot men not everyone right
00:20:04.460 ugly men come on not even people right i mean homath often does this in his sort of thing where
00:20:11.480 he's like when women say that you know that nobody's interested in them and then he like 0.94
00:20:16.860 wipes out the bottom 80 of men but like actually and he puts like a little ghost over them right
00:20:24.320 like like a little little ghost like look no one can see them we've had him on the show before
00:20:28.340 guys he's a great guy he's so great yeah the okay but i think he's got like a deeper point there
00:20:38.180 than i think is often seen which is it's not just women who ignore the vast majority of men who
00:20:46.340 can't get a partner right like i'm not gonna say the vast majority let's say 60 right just have
00:20:49.580 very little shot 65 that these men and and note here this isn't just based on attractiveness
00:20:56.120 right like if you get rich as a guy it doesn't really matter if you're super smart or passionate
00:21:00.580 it doesn't really matter yeah in fact as a guy those things are like dramatically bigger
00:21:05.280 assets to you than your looks oh totally yeah yeah i mean this is why i always like it's not that
00:21:13.840 girls may not prefer it if you were slightly more buff but as a male there's almost always
00:21:20.780 something that you could be putting your time into and not just one thing but usually about
00:21:25.080 20 things you could be putting your time into that would have a more impact on how attractive
00:21:29.520 the the type of girl you would want is to you yeah like beauty and the beast wouldn't be a trope 1.00
00:21:35.780 minotaur milking farm or morning sorry morning glory milking farm would not be like look women 1.00
00:21:41.720 aren't naturally super hot for literal monster types well i mean those are pretty muscular 1.00
00:21:48.160 monsters you know could rip them apart you know that's only a demonstration of their ability to
00:21:52.500 have prowess in some in some sector actually i think that's one reason why weightlifting is so
00:21:57.360 big with men trying to attract women because if if you're kind of lower stats on height or
00:22:03.420 attractiveness you can still boost you know if it's not also intelligence or wealth if you've
00:22:08.680 really like fancy muscles yeah we've noticed that like anyone can gain muscles so it's a good like
00:22:13.180 backup for a lot of guys yeah there's a lot of guys if they well maybe this is true and i should
00:22:18.400 reword this for a guy like me if i spend time studying or working on a project i will achieve
00:22:24.700 your payout would be big yeah but if you don't have that kind of aptitude then it's lost time
00:22:29.480 you have to look at where you have good aptitude true yeah i guess if you're at the bottom barrel
00:22:34.180 of aptitude then weightlifting probably is the best thing you can do with your time or maybe you
00:22:37.640 have a big aptitude for weightlifting like if you if you if you could just do it endlessly like you
00:22:41.740 really enjoy it then that's true good thing to lean into right you know or you're doing it while
00:22:46.680 podcast does well because it just comes naturally to us right like it's our fun time and so that's
00:22:51.640 easy so if going to the gym is someone's fun and relaxing time whereas like all the other things
00:22:56.820 you could be doing to attract a mate are not then it's a great smart thing to do you make a strong
00:23:03.300 point simone i am well thanks malcolm i am but i also think that a big mistake that guys make in
00:23:11.800 these communities and we've talked about this on other videos but it's just worth surfacing again
00:23:14.640 if you look at the studies on this and they always brush it off they're like you see in
00:23:19.280 short-term pairing it matters a ton but with people looking for longer-term pairing it doesn't
00:23:25.400 matter as much and and then they're like but you know like short term's what we want we want casual
00:23:30.600 sex but if you're like no i want to i want a lifelong partner you can see why that looking
00:23:37.560 overly buff can have the exact negative effect by attracting the type of woman who's looking for 0.72
00:23:41.680 casual sex instead of the type of woman who's looking for somebody she's going to have to spend
00:23:45.380 the rest of her life with. But let's go over some of the other things she says here. The only
00:23:50.300 infidelity you can prevent is your own. The wife and the other woman are not enemies. They are two
00:24:01.520 women being asked the same question by the same culture. And both of their answers are being
00:24:06.860 treated as evidence of poor judgment
00:24:09.100 like do you love him is the
00:24:14.920 question right you know
00:24:16.040 okay sorry this is
00:24:18.620 difficult for me to understand
00:24:20.140 poetic and flowery and you know
00:24:22.280 I don't understand poem stuff
00:24:24.580 so that this is this is very trying
00:24:26.580 how could
00:24:28.720 she love him
00:24:29.440 isn't not a question
00:24:32.260 it's a verdict dressed as a
00:24:34.440 concern
00:24:35.020 oh wow okay oh my god what i'm just i this this woman i'm just see i'm trying to work this out
00:24:49.620 though because there is a genre of posts online too that are rage bait and some like there's
00:24:55.520 there's someone i like to follow who posts excessive cleaning routines like she'll arrive 1.00
00:25:01.460 at a hotel room and she will clean the whole freaking thing, like put on new sheets on the 1.00
00:25:06.520 bed, clean the toilet, clean the sink, clean the shower, that kind of thing. And that's rage bait. 1.00
00:25:11.760 They do that because that's rage bait. There's a mother who has like 10 or 11 kids and she will 1.00
00:25:16.740 just stock their little mini fridges full of insane junk food. And that's rage bait because 1.00
00:25:21.660 parents are like, oh, it has fructose in it. You know, like I feel like 90% of her success
00:25:28.280 is not due to any legitimate action it's her understanding that she's getting rage-based
00:25:34.540 engagement but that still produces a profit for her yeah no there was a a realization i had
00:25:42.040 on one of the shows was leaflet where i had never contextualized it this way before
00:25:47.880 but somebody was like do you this came from the question of do you have a crush on leaflet
00:25:52.680 and I had never thought because you know if you're thinking about somebody who you actually feel a
00:25:59.520 degree of emotional closeness to I had never had it injected into my head the idea of cheating
00:26:07.680 with someone I feel emotionally close to and then it immediately occurred to me I was like
00:26:12.680 but if I if I attempted to do something like that with her it would hurt her somebody who I
00:26:20.640 presumably like yeah why would why would you do that to her yeah why would i do that to her
00:26:27.620 and i had never had this moment of realization before because i had never considered cheating
00:26:33.520 in this context before like actually oh it's somebody who is otherwise living you know a good
00:26:39.640 conservative christian life monogamous marriage etc yeah who's searching for monogamy who's
00:26:45.480 searching for marriage and who i genuinely deeply like as a person and then somebody's like have you
00:26:53.560 thought about sleeping with them and in my head i was immediately like what a shitty thing that
00:26:59.740 would be to do to them not to my wife right like obviously it's bad for my wife but like it would
00:27:08.780 be a complete inversion of any feeling of emotional fondness I would have towards a person
00:27:16.380 because it would be using my emotional fondness to justify hurting that that individual and I
00:27:25.120 had never realized until I had that truly how perverse cheating is when you're in a healthy
00:27:33.240 society right that hadn't hit me before right like it's obviously and this i guess comes to
00:27:42.280 the second thing which is like you can do cheating as like a conquest with like people you don't know
00:27:47.940 which like maybe a lower form of cheating even because like at least the people you're hurting
00:27:52.340 you don't actually care about what happens to them but this thing where people who presumably
00:28:00.260 have an emotional closeness with each other well that's what she keeps talking about she acts like
00:28:04.720 this isn't about the fun of hurting women she acts like it's actually out of care or interest in the 0.77
00:28:10.600 men so yeah but she's not talking about the guy she's talking about the stuff he's buying her 0.99
00:28:16.560 yeah yeah because i i think she's gaslighting herself and if not herself then her her clients
00:28:23.180 so no I think what it is is that when she goes out there and she starts waxing all
00:28:31.060 waxing lyrically about well I should be able to do whatever I want to do and here's all the
00:28:36.660 things I want to do you know that that she's getting excited about what's the way I want to
00:28:45.320 put this about talking to the urban monoculture in urban monoculture language to frame what she's
00:28:50.460 doing oh that's and it's about love and that's you know what that's the thing we need to go back
00:28:55.680 to transactional marriages and it's not like they were that old remember the the movie with
00:29:00.740 marilyn monroe and some other star stars of old hollywood how to marry a millionaire where they're
00:29:06.200 just like look my job here i need to like find a wealthy man that's my job here no i mean i think
00:29:10.940 that it reminds me because you see progressive do this all the time and it's a very fun form of like
00:29:18.340 code switching and i i even say something that we used to do where like the trans community
00:29:23.440 talking within the trans community it's this is hot this turns me on like of course feelings of
00:29:31.560 body euphoria are erotic in nature you know you know i i i've looked at myself in the mirror and
00:29:38.540 jacked off today like this sort of stuff you see all the time in the trans community if you if you
00:29:41.880 go to like the trans subreddits and stuff like this right like it's no it's normal and then you
00:29:46.420 you then see trans people talking to the media you know the and they're like i'm just born this
00:29:51.440 way you know i was just you know how can you really say that i shouldn't be allowed to be
00:29:56.020 who i am and how dare you call who i am a fetish it's like uh this flip
00:30:02.900 and you can see i do it when i talk with reporters right where you know on our show yeah like with 0.95
00:30:09.480 our community you're all super reasonable and then with reporters you're like let them all die
00:30:14.180 no no no i actually go in the i mean in our show i this is especially in the early days when i was
00:30:19.460 talking to reporters i'd be quite edgy about the stuff i'd say i'd be like like come on people like
00:30:24.100 we've got to talk about group differences we've got to talk about like when i talk to reporters
00:30:28.060 and i'm like you know they're the real racists right like how dare they say oh corporal punishment
00:30:35.160 makes you a monster don't they know the black community uses corporal punishments at much 0.99
00:30:40.320 higher rates than the white community and the majority of black families use it are they racist 0.99
00:30:46.260 or like don't they know that latin america's fertility rates are falling faster than the
00:30:53.000 united states and are now strictly below the united states don't they care about the plight
00:30:58.200 of the latin american the poor little mexican he has been forgotten don't they care that in iraq
00:31:08.380 And in Iran, they have a lower fertility rate than the United States.
00:31:13.440 We have to save our people. 0.87
00:31:15.820 You know, the, the, the, or when I'm talking about Israel, you know, I'll talk about it. 1.00
00:31:20.640 I'm like, Israel is just a group that had their land colonized, taking it back from 0.92
00:31:28.340 the colonizers who shipped them off their land and made it unsafe to live there. 0.93
00:31:33.160 this is the first time any group has been able to retake their land and now you want to get rid of 0.93
00:31:40.060 them how can you say this about the seminoles but not the jews the jews had an actual holocaust 0.98
00:31:46.620 right like don't you care don't you understand why they had to go there to feel safe meanwhile
00:31:54.600 on podcast i'm like i really love that there's this group that's like super high fertility and
00:31:59.100 has a lot of weapons and is not afraid to kill people who piss them off right like that is
00:32:03.800 awesome i don't care i don't care that their ancestors had the land i don't care that the
00:32:09.180 bible says they should have the land i don't care none of that what i care about is they are a good
00:32:14.320 potential ally in the future when hits the fan in terms of whatever happens next civilizationally
00:32:23.100 speaking right like but i i use a completely different you know talking point when i'm
00:32:27.540 talking was like the urban monoculture i'm framing it for the urban monoculture because and if people 0.55
00:32:33.860 are like oh that's so horrible you just like the jews because they're a potential ally yeah an ally
00:32:38.400 in my goal which is future human flourishing and future human flourishing requires people that we 1.00
00:32:45.820 can work with against the barbarian forces that have achieved high fertility rates through 1.00
00:32:51.740 through restricting access to education, through treating women like cattle, through, you know,
00:32:57.440 incredibly xenophobic views towards outsiders. People can be like, well, some Jews have those.
00:33:04.300 It's like, yeah, some Jews do have those. But there are much, much larger groups, right? And
00:33:10.140 it's typically not the Jews with the technology that have those views. That would turn against us
00:33:15.060 where Jews can be a useful partner because many of these groups also want to kill Jews, 0.96
00:33:19.500 which makes them natural allies right that that is like my maneuvering right like a future where 0.93
00:33:25.060 people aren't suffering as much and where people have more freedom and we get to the stars and we
00:33:30.100 take over the universe and all that nonsense manifest destiny all that but i don't i don't 0.98
00:33:34.400 care that the jews are taking back cullen iceland but i i say that in the same way these women don't 0.73
00:33:39.260 actually they don't seem to love these men at all that's a very interesting i've noticed you don't
00:33:44.700 do it though so you don't flip to a different mode when you talk to reporters you use the same
00:33:49.900 arguments here you use when you talk to reporters because i answer the prompt
00:33:54.060 i am don't frame the prompt for your audience just like this is what's true you have asked
00:34:01.280 me a question i'm going to answer the question i can't i can't well i like that about you
00:34:07.900 i think our fans like that about you you know that's sad because i was just about to say that
00:34:12.520 I think code switching gets a bad reputation. It's not a bad thing. It's not a bad thing when
00:34:16.840 people feel obligated to do it because it is useful and you should have the capability,
00:34:22.880 which apparently I utterly lack, to be able to speak to people in terms that they can understand
00:34:27.180 if you have that capacity. And it's good when people code switch it because then they are
00:34:32.880 able to speak effectively and be better understood. So I wish that people viewed it positively and
00:34:40.300 did it more i'm glad you do it yep but i i find this very interesting and i wish that the guys 0.98
00:34:51.700 could just see that they're being used for money right like that's what these women care about 0.99
00:34:55.340 right like that seems to be the goal that's what she kept talking about 1.00
00:34:58.660 do you think they would care because they're getting what they want which is yeah yeah
00:35:06.720 cheating the only victim in this crime as far as i'm aware is the you know the wife who's being 0.99
00:35:13.600 cheated on whose sex toys are being slimed by some derelict woman gross that's so gross 0.98
00:35:22.980 i mean i know like the new the new company which i won't name because we're never going to do a 0.99
00:35:28.260 sponsorship with them i don't know how people can manage to do that is like all their toys
00:35:31.520 are washable and i guess presumably then you're always going to pre-wash because that's who knows
00:35:38.140 who knows who's picked that up and uh i just yeah you don't know because i sleep in a different room
00:35:43.880 than you so who knows i mean people are always perplexed you film in different rooms kids are
00:35:48.120 always rifling through every single drawer and they do not wash their hands after using the
00:35:53.520 toilet like i tell them to all the freaking time have you washed your hand oh thanks for reminding
00:36:00.260 me so what are you gonna get in your body if they rifle through a drawer you should never 0.93
00:36:05.460 expose your straws or your drinking vessels or your utensils to children because 0.81
00:36:09.840 yeah who has a sex toy as like a married couple just like in their room 0.97
00:36:16.840 i think some couples use them like together
00:36:19.900 i mean clearly this woman was using them with the guy so i don't know the way i see it depicted
00:36:30.240 in media there's the dissatisfactory
00:36:33.420 sex and then the husband falls asleep and then the wife plays with the toy that is what happens
00:36:42.120 in the movies it's very consistent this is how i understand and presumably this is this is how
00:36:48.720 other women have been trained to contextualize these devices as well and they just assume that
00:36:53.260 that's how it's supposed to work but i don't know i don't know i don't know people learning that we
00:36:59.040 have a far more puritan lifestyle than they imagine right like well i still think i we we
00:37:04.360 need to make the you know what of your you know what because that's for posterity it needs to be
00:37:10.060 preserved but that is really for a museum for the public record
00:37:17.720 yeah it's too good to go to waste this is one of those reasons why i like monogamy is a shame
00:37:28.640 but yeah yeah this look look should it come as any surprise from a couple that believes that
00:37:34.660 all non-procreative sex is sinful they were like how do they do that yeah yeah yeah anyway 1.00
00:37:43.960 this lady be crazy i'm pretty sure 99% of it's race bait though the final thing i'd say on this 0.97
00:37:48.340 point yeah which is sort of to elaborate when people are like but malcolm why do you say you
00:37:52.820 should invest in like projects and things that have meaning instead of like being as hot as
00:37:58.320 possible being ripped yeah and it's like girls are not guys when you look at a girl what you see
00:38:06.640 is her body okay when a woman looks at you what she sees what jock donaghy sees in 30 rock no not
00:38:16.360 money what she sees fundamentally is the life that she's going to be setting up inside
00:38:20.760 oh that's a good point yeah what life do i have with you the brick and morty yes am i famous am
00:38:27.820 i pampered yeah yeah when they say you're not a woman you can't just drop your life and set
00:38:34.780 yourself up and somebody else's it's not like he's a hot girl he can't just bail on his life
00:38:39.740 and set up shop in someone else's this is really a huge part of what marriage is for women and what
00:38:46.840 long-term relationships are for women it's what is my lifestyle going to be what is my
00:38:52.920 responsibilities going to be what projects am I going to be supporting what you know and so for
00:38:59.120 them you you can think of it almost like a well because it's like a quest for them right like it's
00:39:05.220 like what's their life quest you you determine who they marry determines that for them often
00:39:10.120 and so they're searching for like the coolest life quest and by making yourself as a life quest
00:39:16.960 cooler or more meaningful or more impactful you will secure better women of the type you want
00:39:25.880 to be dating and you want to be dating this type of woman the woman who's like yeah i'm setting my
00:39:30.120 life up inside of their life i'm not doing it because a woman who marries you because you're
00:39:35.000 hot what what's gonna happen when she sees a guy who's hotter than you right yeah true what what's
00:39:43.760 gonna happen but the woman who sets up because your life is like a joint project somebody walks 0.93
00:39:48.720 along with another nascent joint project and she's gonna be like well you know that would be kind of 1.00
00:39:54.480 stupid right like i've invested so much time in this one right and she loses the project by losing
00:39:59.820 the leaving the relationship absolutely i mean i i love this because like wow you know i'm really 0.98
00:40:07.760 rich already so i can't really build anything with them and it's like well you can set up like
00:40:11.020 a foundation to work on with them or something you know that's what rich guys do they set up
00:40:15.380 like foundations oh gosh you're right yeah they actually do for women to waste away their days
00:40:24.020 a thing no that like that's that's that's a thing for hundreds of years oh oh gosh okay yeah
00:40:30.900 and yet they still fall for it they take it really seriously i think especially now because 0.98
00:40:38.280 women think they still need to have a job and be super impressive and have a career because
00:40:45.260 in in perfect fairness people will not take them seriously if they're not doing very important 1.00
00:40:51.220 serious work and so in order to maintain work well they don't frame it these days they know
00:40:58.000 how to hide it better they're like i am a you know like activist in this realm or whatever you
00:41:04.180 know that's sad oh well at least it's not us okay and how would you tell men you know as a woman who
00:41:13.100 has presumably thought about cheating to protect themselves from women like yourself
00:41:17.980 from me i'm joking but like how would you advise men to protect themselves from this
00:41:25.820 from exploitative women yeah hmm right because there's this whole a lot of men have have started
00:41:35.100 taking this very seriously because actually there is this this increasing percentage of women who
00:41:41.660 are trying trying to treat dating like a a new career hunt because they understand that it's
00:41:46.540 incredibly hard to get a job right now so their new plan is to hitch their wagon to a husband who's
00:41:51.360 a cash cow and her career will be married to him and a lot of men don't want that kind of freeloader 0.74
00:41:57.060 wife they they don't want that at all and so on their first date they will ask the woman to pay
00:42:03.340 or they will instead obfuscate their careers on their dating profiles are you aware of this
00:42:09.580 where they'll be like i'm a carpenter like some of the examples that got exposed are super lame
00:42:13.940 because like no you're not no one believes that you're a carpenter actually i would have totally
00:42:19.520 believed that someone was a carpenter you are very credulous and you're the type of woman they they
00:42:23.700 want simone you know what they want that's so cool tell me all about your woodworking
00:42:29.100 no seriously yeah it's so true and i was very insensitive to people's careers when i
00:42:34.900 when i dated i i was just like are you a hyper sensitive i know you were hypersensitive i was
00:42:42.000 like you're a felon let's go you're a cook let's go you're a programmer all right like i really
00:42:47.440 didn't care i just wanted interesting people that were hot like but this is exactly it when you were 1.00
00:42:53.100 looking for a guy the criteria that simone used most is are interesting interesting because that's 1.00
00:42:59.540 so true i dated guys shorter than me i went on dates with guys of different races than me so it
00:43:04.260 wasn't about like matched cultural ethnic national background it wasn't about matched morality even
00:43:09.940 And these weren't, like, actually, some of the guys, I joked that they were all hot.
00:43:14.240 Like, some of the guys, I would rate them as, like, fives or sixes.
00:43:20.560 So the reason why this is important is you, urban monoculture, hipster Simone, when you were thinking about the metric that you wanted to increase most about your life,
00:43:33.560 if you were going to set yourself up in some man's life was to make your own life more interesting
00:43:40.060 so that is why you used interestingness as your metric for is this guy good enough
00:43:46.620 for sure yeah yeah especially like to like in terms of getting in the door that's all you had
00:43:52.320 to be is a guy for me when i was dating i looked for trainability and guys today don't look for
00:43:57.940 that enough i know they're just looking for instagram models like per the criteria that men
00:44:04.540 that we've met have these days they're only going to end up dating only fans models oh of course
00:44:10.380 and they don't realize they're like well i expect it i want a traditional woman the queen of the new
00:44:16.140 right asthma gold's new girlfriend you know really set the trend there look that i don't know like
00:44:22.300 and i don't have a problem with that that's also fine but it's it's kind of ironic to me because
00:44:25.640 these men also typically are i guess though you know in the end i think a lot of women who are on
00:44:31.640 of would prefer to be kind of just of thing for one guy in a monogamous relationship if he provided 1.00
00:44:38.860 the lifestyle she wanted i just realized if you are a right-wing female intellectual content 1.00
00:44:46.160 creator that's a huge pathway of revenue you don't have access to that all the leftists have access 1.00
00:44:51.120 do oh like the kudermogger yeah the kudermogger is trying to clean up pretending to be right-wing 1.00
00:44:56.860 and like getting for people haven't seen this it's this woman who sits in very sexualized poses 0.99
00:45:01.360 and says generic right-wing things yeah like we should deport ilhan omar's horrible like yeah 1.00
00:45:07.520 funny and she doesn't actually have a podcast she sets up as if she has a podcast say that men can 1.00
00:45:13.460 never be women and if we can't say that then we can't live in a free society can we please stop 0.95
00:45:18.740 addressing ilhan omar as a congresswoman i mean she's literally a fraud it's true that your school 0.95
00:45:24.020 uh your school's libraries offer islamic literature like the quran and other things
00:45:29.420 she clip farms it looks like like clip farmed pieces of some podcast she has but it's just
00:45:34.300 like she's filming her sound bites and i think this is a really interesting and fascinating
00:45:39.580 economy that once i get enough fodder on maybe i'll do an episode on it of young women who are 0.75
00:45:45.480 posting content that seems to that's designed for algorithmic traction like the one who's doing all 1.00
00:45:51.500 the who's hiking the pacific northwest trail in these cute little pink outfits and she puts on
00:45:57.080 her makeup every morning and her blush and then she talks in her little girl-like voice and does
00:46:01.660 her hair and then walks 15 miles and eats an apricot because i was hungry and all these young 0.84
00:46:08.160 ladies are watching these clips and i imagine maybe some young ladies are watching like the 1.00
00:46:12.160 cootermoggers like political commentary not realizing that sitting in yoga pants like that 1.00
00:46:17.280 is a little suggestive and maybe they're being culturally you are the only woman 1.00
00:46:23.860 incredulous enough to to not notice that i've seen normal women sit like that
00:46:31.880 it just didn't like you see what i mean audience you see what i mean okay whatever anyway i feel
00:46:39.260 like they're shaping i know that the hiking one who also has an of is shaping like young lady
00:46:44.460 culture influencing a lot of young women to like go out and hike which is i think solo hiking as a
00:46:49.280 young woman is is criminally dangerous but you and i have listened to so many stories of people
00:46:54.240 like disappearing and dying while in the obviously is mr ballin fans and laura lodge yeah if you
00:46:59.660 listen to mr ballin you ain't never going hiking you're like ever it's just it's a bad idea but
00:47:05.580 also you won't live in your own house because there's probably someone living in between the
00:47:08.760 walls waiting to waiting to kill you by the way lore for the fans oh lord lodge and us live in
00:47:17.460 the same small town in pennsylvania i know lore lodge can we like take you out to tie me up or
00:47:23.220 something that yeah fun that's a that's not a bdsm place that's a thai restaurant it's a thai
00:47:29.100 restaurant it's yeah it's delicious it's fantastic come on yeah and his team because he's got a whole
00:47:35.300 team in an office yeah we will take your whole team out dude like let's it'd be fun we like your
00:47:40.380 big fans of the channel yeah yeah it's so weird to know that there's a famous youtuber who lives
00:47:46.880 no one ever needs to know that we met in person i know our politics are toxic for your brand of
00:47:51.980 neutrality yeah look we have a lot of friends off the record friends we have a lot of off the record
00:47:57.040 we keep secret yeah don't worry we can keep a secret well and also given that he hasn't talked
00:48:04.100 about his politics i'd be surprised if they weren't right wing usually i don't know because
00:48:08.680 the that area is is left-leaning i know this because the area is left-leaning in the district
00:48:13.740 usually they can't help but sneak in left-leaning lines into their stuff oh that's if they are
00:48:21.040 left-leaning that is like even fairly like if you watch all of their content you you see it like a
00:48:26.940 good example of this is zero punctuation you know the offensive video game guy who does like video
00:48:31.280 game critiques yeah and like he's gone off about how bad trump is before in jokes and stuff like
00:48:36.380 that and you would think that he wouldn't there's no reason for him to nerf yeah like on all my
00:48:40.220 favorite podcasts that are you know they're like they're girly podcasts about american folklore
00:48:45.400 and historical garments but they they can't help but talk about bad man bad orange man yeah so if
00:48:51.900 they explicitly never mention it yeah my okay they gotta be closeted conservatives okay you never
00:48:59.680 now yeah hey but maybe not for townsend i don't know if he has political opinions i love him so
00:49:06.160 much he's he's he's the real internet daddy everyone like jordan peterson was the fake
00:49:11.980 internet daddy townsend is the real internet daddy all right i love you i love you too malcolm
00:49:17.940 don't don't go out there cooter mogging someone to get them to ice you know how much i'm like 0.87
00:49:24.700 they are the snarlacc pit to me no i would rather look at the snarlacc pit eat people alive 1.00
00:49:30.940 than look at a cooter i swear to you so i will never expose that part of my body ever 1.00
00:49:39.060 ever like i want every time i have to do some kind of gynecological thing i'm like i'm sorry
00:49:45.240 i'm sorry like get it done it's like deeply uncomfortable anyway love you to death simone
00:49:51.940 bye bye search i had it right here okay here we go i have i need to sanity test this with you but
00:50:00.960 i have a new potential online red flag that can help one identify people who are going to throw
00:50:07.380 you under the bus or screw you over in some way or just not be nice to you and that is if they
00:50:13.940 have disappearing messages with you that is my theory if someone has set disappearing messages
00:50:20.380 they will betray you and i say this because this i swear this is not a humble brag but you and i
00:50:27.780 both know that we have had and have chats like dms with a very small but but small handful of
00:50:37.140 famous people some yeah like insane levels of fame right do they have disappearing messages
00:50:44.700 no no they probably should but they don't probably should but they don't they get the free pass
00:50:50.660 the only people i know who i have ever encountered who have disappearing messages
00:50:55.700 have completely like thrown us under the bus or thrown me under the bus screwed us over
00:51:01.640 etc like the only and it's a it's a 100 thing and that is to say i i don't really know many people
00:51:09.020 who have disappearing messages but yeah that's that's my new theory what do you think about it
00:51:15.220 I mean look at it this way though like if you set disappearing messages with someone you don't trust
00:51:19.560 them you think they're going to screenshot you or like reveal things or you want to say things
00:51:24.420 to that person that I don't know you personally don't feel proud of I don't know but it is kind
00:51:31.020 of questionable if you set disappearing messages unless like you as two friends are aware that you
00:51:36.720 Or, like, you both mutually agree to it.
00:51:39.680 Like, hey, let's set disappearing messages.
00:51:42.140 But if someone just sets them on you. 1.00
00:51:43.760 Well, I also, the people I know who set them are typically assholes. 1.00
00:51:47.100 Yes! 0.99
00:51:47.780 Like, just from the, before they betray you or anything like that.
00:51:51.080 They're typically just people you have to deal with.
00:51:53.880 Yes.
00:51:55.080 Yes.
00:51:56.520 Yes, yes.
00:51:57.560 And I came into this so innocent.
00:51:59.600 I was like, oh, I guess this is some new social convention.
00:52:02.740 But then I discovered, no, this isn't a social convention.
00:52:05.360 this isn't a feature that most people use and then everyone who has chosen to consistently
00:52:11.400 use this feature ever since it came out throw me under the bus screw me over
00:52:16.840 anyway i just noticed i just like thought of that today and i was like oh my god
00:52:22.200 no it's a good pattern recognition for what i've seen people can shout out in the comments
00:52:27.220 yeah there's the person who's gonna feel the need to write in to justify themselves
00:52:31.320 but this is my like liz lemon it's a deal breaker disappearing messages that's a deal breaker ladies
00:52:37.480 so i'm ready so i'll get started here
00:52:41.420 so you have a military base in titan what is this cathedral
00:52:47.320 a giant beauty what kind of beauty is it what does it do
00:52:53.300 it's a t-rex indie where
00:53:03.120 yeah toasty thank you so much i really appreciate it high five buddy okay