Based Camp - August 06, 2026


Black Humans vs. Gay Socialists: The DNC Civil War


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00:00:00.000 Hello, Malcolm. I am very excited to be speaking with you because I need to process something,
00:00:06.600 and I think I need you to help me figure this out, and hopefully our listeners in the comments too.
00:00:12.020 The DNC basically just went through a multi-layered, messy civil war, and I had no idea.
00:00:20.300 It involved Black and Latino constituencies fighting for symbolic primacy amid this larger
00:00:26.300 ideological fight between the moderate establishment Democrats, which lean heavily
00:00:30.600 on Southern Black voters, and the progressive DSA wing. And then even while this political
00:00:36.920 environment is heavily in the Democratic Party's favor, and I can tell you about primary turnout
00:00:41.720 levels and everything else, this is their game to lose. The National Committee is struggling.
00:00:47.400 The New York Times describes the DNC as troubled and broke with money problems and organizations.
00:00:52.880 they're completely broke they're not giving money to any of their candidates yeah people are
00:00:56.780 throwing cell phones and then of course in line with typical dnc culture filing complaints about
00:01:03.560 it come on god i'm sure that's various objects are thrown among the republican operatives but i
00:01:10.680 doubt that they're filing no there was a great book that came out recently i don't know if
00:01:15.400 you're going to review this from a dnc insider about how bad it is to work in the dnc no and
00:01:22.160 And she was like talking about how she had a,
00:01:26.660 when she produced good work,
00:01:28.480 whatever she would do an astounding job 0.64
00:01:29.920 and really impress everyone. 1.00
00:01:31.140 One of her black coworkers would start to give reports 0.98
00:01:34.600 about how, because she'd always try to put it down 0.96
00:01:36.600 or something, how she wasn't giving primacy
00:01:38.980 to black voices or something. 1.00
00:01:41.020 Basically as a technique to consolidate power 1.00
00:01:44.500 around herself. 0.99
00:01:46.040 And this was just apparently a constant thing
00:01:48.760 that you have to deal with when you're in-
00:01:49.880 Well, if it gets rewarded, you're going to do it.
00:01:52.160 So she wasn't being like wrong. She was doing the right thing. Just sucks. Anyway, multiple outlets were reporting that the chair of the DNC, Ken Martin, has faced criticism over his leadership, not just for throwing a cell phone at someone else's desk, but specifically for the handling of the party's 2024 election autopsy and a loss of confidence among donors and insiders.
00:02:17.260 If you're unaware of this particular fiasco, it is quite interesting. So they did the election autopsy. The guy didn't want to release it because he thought it was a low quality or it didn't reflect what Democrats wanted to hear about why they lost the election.
00:02:34.620 and then people began to make conspiracy theories so this was given him in 2024 he was eventually
00:02:42.040 forced to release it in 2026 and it basically didn't call out anything that's what everyone
00:02:47.560 was so surprised about it didn't mention gaza it didn't mention biden not stepping down it
00:02:52.680 didn't mention any of that and then as of august 2026 there has been a new revelation which is that
00:03:00.900 he hid one of the chapters in it that was handed to him in a binder saying that Biden himself and
00:03:07.460 not stepping down or passing on the church when he should have was the single point of failure
00:03:12.420 and also talking more about the Hispanic, Black, Asian American, and Native American
00:03:17.680 turn on the Democratic Party and why that happened. So let's start with the Civil War
00:03:26.740 because it's weird it would this was triggered by the dnc's choice of which state goes first in the
00:03:33.320 2028 presidential primary which to me seems and i know it's a big deal but it feels to me a lot like
00:03:41.080 who gets to enter first at the prom or something but it's not it really sets the tone for who wins
00:03:47.120 it does it does and i learned that from this i was like i don't get it it really matters i'd say
00:03:52.540 it probably matters as much as 30 to 40 percent yes in fact there is this very reason why for
00:03:58.760 example bernie sanders had no shot at running for president when i think he probably could have won
00:04:04.040 honestly in the primaries so here's the thing okay black voters make up a large share of southern
00:04:11.140 carolina's democrats and they've long been the party's most loyal national base nevada is this
00:04:17.860 diverse battleground with a substantial Latino population. Black leaders treated keeping South
00:04:24.780 Carolina as the first state to do primaries for the presidential election as a non-negotiable
00:04:32.140 recognition of Black voter centrality, especially after the recent Supreme Court rulings that
00:04:38.100 weekend voting, the Voting Rights Act protections and triggered redistricting fights that reduced 0.99
00:04:43.160 black representation in the south allegedly again that seems so incredibly stupid that like 1.00
00:04:49.100 it almost seems racist is this victimhood fight every but also wait are you saying black people 1.00
00:04:54.860 are incompetent and i can't even get their acts together to get an idea it is it just seems really 0.97
00:05:00.280 screwed up to imply that hurts black voters disproportionately wrong i just i don't even 0.99
00:05:06.000 want to it's obviously racist and it shows that the democrats are just super being racist they 1.00
00:05:11.740 think black people are like idiots that can't get ids that can't get jobs that can't get yeah you 1.00
00:05:16.280 know this is like biden when he was like you know we want to do this both for rich people and black 1.00
00:05:21.020 people oh i thought you were going to say if you don't vote democrat then you ain't black that 0.97
00:05:24.980 that is that too right yeah i need to police their identity it's disgusting i cannot imagine 0.99
00:05:29.860 how much i would have to hate my own people to be a black person who voted democrat 0.98
00:05:33.840 just the level of disgust they treat you with it's good for us if for america if the the black 0.98
00:05:41.360 democrats do vote first because they're less crazy than the white democrats it's not good for us 0.92
00:05:46.200 because they'll elect a more electable candidate no that is that that's kind of the crux of it
00:05:50.280 though is that in the end i think anyone who wants a fairly rational future for the democratic party
00:05:55.960 wants the primary to be in south carolina and to be controlled by black voters because they will 0.74
00:06:02.500 wipe out any off the charts insane outlier bernie sanders and stuff like that except this time it's 0.93
00:06:10.440 more like AOC that's what kind of people are saying they're like if South Carolina is where
00:06:13.940 it starts then AOC is off of this but anyway so to recap normally it's been South Carolina but now
00:06:20.900 people are like no it should be Nevada and then when the people are like no obviously you should
00:06:25.780 be black or black people in South Carolina who should have the voice then the Latino people 0.76
00:06:29.660 are like wait what am I do I mean nothing are we not a large you do mean nothing by the way 0.88
00:06:34.460 So the Democratic Party, apparently. But anyway, South Carolina Democratic Party chair,
00:06:40.700 Christelle Spain, put it super bluntly in her comments, which went viral and kind of the most
00:06:45.940 salient ones that are showing up on X, for example. She claimed that elevating Nevada 0.99
00:06:51.040 over South Carolina, quote, would be because of their Latino vote. So you would then be telling
00:06:56.560 Black voters that you matter less than Brown voters, end quote, which is also putting all 0.72
00:07:01.600 these artificial divides by that by that logic you're telling brown voters that they matter less 0.98
00:07:07.060 than black voters yes no but like of course they do that's taken as the obvious dnc position of 0.85
00:07:13.980 course brown people matter less than black people we live in a strict racial hierarchy within our 1.00
00:07:19.420 organization yes people are so fucking evil it's trying anyway al sharpton and others also echoed 1.00
00:07:27.320 this slap in the face framing. And then some countered saying things like, the earliest 0.97
00:07:31.500 primaries should be in competitive swing states, not South Carolina. Honoring the importance of
00:07:37.100 Black voters and the Democratic base is also valid, but that still shouldn't be the South 0.87
00:07:42.660 Carolina. It should be Georgia and Michigan. The purpose, I'm reading a quote, of a primary is to
00:07:49.360 choose the strongest nominee to win the general election. It does us no good to show us a
00:07:57.040 candidate that is popular in a state that will be irrelevant when it really matters, which is a very
00:08:01.220 valid point. Anyway, Latino advocacy groups like Voto Latino Victory Project, etc., Nevada Democrats 0.98
00:08:07.000 pushed hard the other way, arguing Nevada better reflects some modern coalition Democrats and their
00:08:12.560 needs and that Latinos deserve symbolic first slots after the 2024 shifts. And this produced
00:08:18.280 open, racially charged sniping between Black and Latino Democratic factions right before the
00:08:23.740 committee vote exactly the quote giant fight between blacks and hispanics described the dnc
00:08:31.240 rules and bylaws committee did ultimately keep south carolina as being first and nevada's right
00:08:38.580 after that and then new hampshire new mexico michigan and virginia it's not ratified yet
00:08:43.120 but this takes place within again that cloud of a larger struggle basically between this like hey
00:08:50.900 let's just be the traditional old-fashioned Democratic Party and the very progressive,
00:08:55.780 more socialist fragment of it that I think is going to represent the future of the Democratic
00:09:02.320 Party, and we can talk about that. Progressives and DSA-aligned voices viewed the South Carolina
00:09:08.100 first outcome as an establishment move to disadvantaged left-wing or socialist candidates.
00:09:13.480 One person in that camp named Christo Ivales put it this way, quote,
00:09:20.140 South Carolina is an early state for one reason only, to block any challenges to right-wing
00:09:25.120 Democrats.
00:09:26.060 It's got nothing to do with the Black vote.
00:09:27.780 Georgia has a higher proportion of its population that is Black.
00:09:30.720 It's a swing state, and its Black population is more representative of the national Black
00:09:35.380 population.
00:09:36.600 South Carolina's Black primary voters have repeatedly rejected far-left figures.
00:09:41.840 Bernie Sanders lost the state badly in both the 2016 and 2020 elections.
00:09:47.060 It's where he started. 0.96
00:09:48.300 and no the funny thing is that the black a lot of black democrats and a lot of people complain
00:09:55.280 about this on the right they're like oh you've got all these black democrats when the party
00:09:58.600 doesn't really care about them and on top of that they treat them as like a locked voter base 0.98
00:10:02.460 and on top of that they don't share democratic values the the reality is that a lot of black 0.99
00:10:08.100 democrats are essentially republicans and this is stupid that they vote for democrats for the 0.99
00:10:16.420 mainstream elections right but it's also in terms of keeping the democrats from going crazy 1.00
00:10:22.040 a very important counterweight they are just racially supremacist republicans that's that is
00:10:28.820 essentially what we're seeing here and you go in there with arcs or bernie sanders ideas and they're
00:10:33.900 not gonna have any of it they're like no i see what you guys are they're not they're not about
00:10:38.760 communist bs and i mean they're the type of people who really supported biden that was a big early
00:10:44.440 support base for him yeah part of me just they feel like the democratic party is using black
00:10:51.800 voters as a cudgel to maintain their own power hierarchies well also just ignoring their actual
00:10:57.760 needs which is seems just pretty damn evil but anyway the basic gist of it is that people see
00:11:05.880 south carolina on the left especially see south carolina as a filter that favors moderate black
00:11:11.100 establishment aligned candidates and makes it super harder for an AOC style or DSA backed
00:11:16.860 contender to survive the opening round. And that's what a lot of Democrats really want.
00:11:21.720 They want, look at the Momdani wave that has really swept a lot of, at least terminally
00:11:27.640 online leftist communities. Nevada was seen as the way to make that feasible for presidential
00:11:33.740 election. So that's why this had become a bit of a civil war. People were like, no,
00:11:39.520 this is the future of the Democratic Party. Don't stop us. We want stronger unions. We want
00:11:44.940 different demographic mixes. And no, they just. I actually agree with the decision they made here. 0.93
00:11:50.700 I think if you care about Democrats winning, it's better to do this. Not winning, but winning was a
00:11:56.540 sane candidate. I guess they could get some sort of crazy populist, which would be very dangerous
00:12:01.460 for the future of America. I feel like AOC would easily win a presidential election if she could
00:12:06.900 make it through the primaries because in the end she's young and attractive and articulate and
00:12:14.040 people don't really i mean i think she'd be competitive i agree with that yeah but i don't
00:12:19.620 think she's a safe person to allow to be president no but i'm just talking about who would likely win 1.00
00:12:25.080 so look if it were aoc versus vance i don't know man there's a lot of women who are just like oh 1.00
00:12:32.360 girl power not to go back to the 90s they'd be really excited about a young pretty woman people 1.00
00:12:38.500 like young pretty women people who are like that are would vote democrat regardless yeah but yeah 1.00
00:12:46.660 and there's also a lot of swing voters who aren't going to do the homework and look at oh another
00:12:51.980 white man and then oh this charismatic looking young woman she looks like she could yeah i don't
00:12:57.520 know. I just feel like she'd be a genuine threat. And a lot of progressive Democrats were super, 1.00
00:13:03.200 super angry after the decision was made. Some explicitly frame putting South Carolina first
00:13:08.680 as the establishment trying to shut down a progressive presidential candidate and their
00:13:14.480 attempt to make the party shift leftward. Online and DSA progressive accounts, sorry, online DSA
00:13:20.980 and progressive accounts basically called the decision one that protected black Jewish and
00:13:27.600 moderate allies within the DNC, which is common left shorthand for traditional democratic power
00:13:35.120 centers that progressives often criticize as insufficiently radical or too tied to their
00:13:41.020 institutional interests, which is not wrong. I have the same impression. I don't, I really think
00:13:45.560 they have a fairly level-headed understanding of what happened here. And I don't, I think they're
00:13:49.980 right and i think it is it's corrupt the process is corrupt the dnc is corrupt you did you guys
00:13:54.740 not know that that's your own team corruption that's your your guy's whole thing is corruption
00:13:59.840 like you're like i voted for the party and they're like no communism communism has always
00:14:06.140 been about corruption right that's why we don't like it right yeah absolutely so all of this is
00:14:14.040 happening while the DNC has some pretty serious money troubles. The New York Times, I referenced
00:14:21.440 them at the top. They published this article. It's not money troubles. They're completely broke
00:14:26.140 from mine. No, they're not just broke. They're in debt. So the New York Times article is titled
00:14:30.240 Inside the Phone Throwing Drama at the Troubled Broke Democratic Party and some choice quotes
00:14:35.920 from it. So much is going politically right for Democrats these days. President Trump's approval 0.69
00:14:40.260 is down, gas prices are up, and an unpopular war with Iran drags on, but dysfunction and debt
00:14:45.140 inside one of the party's key institutions, which is getting crushed in fundraising by its Republican
00:14:49.700 counterpart, are creating rising anxiety for top Democrats. Mr. Trump controls a 400 million
00:14:56.300 super PAC, and a Republican National Committee is sitting on nearly 130 million. Mr. Martin's DNC
00:15:03.800 is two million in debt that's such a contrast two million in debt yeah versus trump's 400 million
00:15:12.580 super PAC and the not the the rnc sitting 130 yowza that is so wild it's about irresponsibility
00:15:20.080 versus responsibility they were broke after the camel campaign as well they just wasted money
00:15:25.100 maybe there seems to be a genuinely different strategy so they write in the article for more
00:15:29.740 a decade, the DNC has transferred millions of dollars every election to sister committees
00:15:34.460 responsible for winning the House and Senate. But the National Party is now so short on cash,
00:15:39.620 even after taking out a $15 million loan last year, that officials have privately conveyed
00:15:44.720 to congressional leadership that there will be no such transfers in 2026.
00:15:49.320 What the Democratic Party has essentially been doing is taking all of its money, even going into
00:15:54.980 debt, although the debt had to do, I think, more with Kamala's election. But this is what I
00:15:59.660 on the ground when i ran for office they're taking all their money and they're giving it to
00:16:04.140 candidates so the the opponent against whom i ran was extremely well funded he had a team like when
00:16:11.440 i turned in the republican party does not do this by the way no i received so i received help from
00:16:17.160 people in the community who were nice and bros i did not receive anything more than an endorsement
00:16:23.760 from the committee in our county and thank you guys for that of course but i was also the only
00:16:29.300 person running their choice was to oh we also spoke at their big events and stuff like that
00:16:37.300 we've been something of a hit at republican you don't like me because i'm too weird anyway but
00:16:43.480 like in general it wasn't just me also super normies who were running did not get any help
00:16:49.700 or support from the party so it was mostly the people that i met who were running considering
00:16:55.160 runs, et cetera, were semi-retired local entrepreneurs who wanted to give back to
00:17:02.020 their communities and were just literally just self-funding everything and begging friends and
00:17:06.560 family for money. Meanwhile, like when I went to turn in my petitions, after I collected the lion's
00:17:13.040 share of my signatures, I can't remember how many it was, but I spent weeks in self-freezing
00:17:19.280 temperatures pregnant waddling around with a diaper on so I couldn't I wouldn't take breaks
00:17:25.460 this is the humiliation I went through to collect these votes and then I go to turn them in person
00:17:30.320 in Harrisburg which is the capital of Pennsylvania and I'm there I'm turning in my votes on the day
00:17:35.600 where you turn in your votes and then my my democratic opponent he has I think three people
00:17:42.960 were present on his team turning in his petition votes and not a single one of the the signatures
00:17:50.440 was collected by him personally jesus so you have to keep in mind the profound level of financial
00:17:58.440 and logistical support that democratic what's funny here is that the republican party has all
00:18:04.460 this money in part because they're not spending it on winning they're spending it on being a
00:18:08.220 republican party yeah the one so i want to criticize the republican party too here i don't
00:18:12.800 know if it's such a win that they're sitting on all this money because they are not helping
00:18:18.720 candidates at least on a local level get elected they're just sitting on money i guess they just
00:18:24.820 like to have their scrooge mcduck vault because it's just so fun to breath stroke through the
00:18:29.440 coins meanwhile i guess what this says is an individual republican is do not donate to the
00:18:34.460 rnc donate to candidates yeah for real don't yeah just donate directly to candidates because you are
00:18:39.100 wasting your money but i honestly i came away from that article and i'm like good for them
00:18:44.220 they're actually supporting because they are explicit in this that they have just given their
00:18:48.580 money to get people elected and it has been fairly effective so i kind of don't want to as much as
00:18:56.480 this oh own the lips i kind of feel like they're owning us they may be stressing out the they're
00:19:02.640 not doing so well organizationally. They're toxic, but they're, I'm not saying the RNC is perfect
00:19:11.180 either. Anyway, I'm going to take some more quotes from this quote. Some of the problems are a
00:19:15.360 hangover from 2024. While vice president Kamala Harris raised record sums that year, her loss
00:19:22.360 left many big democratic donors disillusioned with her, with the party. Her campaign also had 0.87
00:19:27.360 millions in debt to the DNC spent much last year paying off with Ms. Harris's help. And so it was
00:19:35.700 Kamala Harris's election, plus them just giving away their money to just put them in this position
00:19:40.380 and they're very stressed out and the leaders losing it and it's kind of toxic. But so all of
00:19:47.060 this has me wanting to discuss with you, Malcolm, and then seeing what people are saying in the
00:19:51.260 comments too what can we expect from the future of the dnc and what we have here like a lay of
00:19:57.500 the land is we have the donation troubles right after 2024 there was this big pull up pullback
00:20:03.060 by dnc mega donors who were really frustrated with the direction of the policy so they did a terrible
00:20:08.740 job but yeah the party did a bad job and i think it's good that they're not getting donations
00:20:13.720 but look at what the party just did the party just basically double down yeah we're gonna double
00:20:20.060 down and you know you're not allowed to change us. You're not allowed to disrupt us. You're not
00:20:23.660 allowed to pull us more progressive. We're not going to listen to the grassroots surge of interest
00:20:28.100 in socialism and in the environment and all these other things. And so I don't see this donation
00:20:34.880 issue changing with the mega donors because the organization is not changing. But in addition to
00:20:40.640 these mega donors, overall, Democratic funding has also faced headwinds in 2025 to 2026 relative
00:20:47.800 to republicans especially at the party committee level but it's not like everything's drying up
00:20:53.580 candidates are still getting donations and stuff anyway democratic primary turnout is quite good
00:20:59.480 right now okay so money troubles because they're refusing to change but they're still people are
00:21:04.580 democrats are still way better than republicans at turning out to primary elections yeah they
00:21:10.080 didn't the next election is even harder for us yes so let's see based on multi-state results and
00:21:16.720 multi-state analyses and reporting through mid to late July, 2026, that across the board, yeah,
00:21:21.840 it outperforms. But also I want to argue that broad Gen Z sentiment is worrying.
00:21:28.060 This is a slightly off topic, but I think it's important to note this here, something that's 0.55
00:21:32.140 been trending on X recently and more births put this as part of his, this is why people don't
00:21:37.280 have kids. They expect they need to spend so much more money to do anything than for earlier
00:21:43.060 generations did. And this is part of the problem. And he's using this survey that's now trending
00:21:48.460 is part of his argument. It's this 2024 Empower survey of 2,203 U.S. adults, which found an
00:21:55.920 overall average salary of around $270,000 is what people felt they needed to be financially
00:22:02.380 successful. But the generation-specific figures are what really make this survey super notable.
00:22:08.520 So what do you think baby boomers thought they needed per year to be financially successful?
00:22:13.060 In this, I'm going to guess $150,000, $199,874. Okay. Okay. Baby boomers. All right. What about 0.92
00:22:21.420 Gen X? I, the young, I'm going to guess 200,000, 250,000. 212. Yeah. 212, 321 for Gen X. So like
00:22:30.980 twice as much as baby boomers. Millennials. What do you think? Us millennials, us olds, 0.79
00:22:36.460 but not that old's a million a year no 180,000 dude i'd be happy with 180,000
00:22:44.540 that'd be good that'd be really yeah that like yeah on the patreon i i mentioned once in a leaflet 0.83
00:22:51.900 stream i do the whole subscribe donate etc and she does everything she got very embarrassed and
00:22:55.260 she was like my fans donate enough to me you don't need to say that right like oh we don't say it
00:22:59.260 enough you guys should donate to leaflet donate to leaflet no what get our weekend episodes okay
00:23:06.300 actually yes yeah no so in case you don't know we have a sub-second patreon that gives paid
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00:23:23.500 yeah we post things or we say boring things that i care about but the rest of the world won't care
00:23:28.020 about no no one else is going to care about how annoyed i am at ellie isaer yukowski i don't know
00:23:34.340 yeah i don't know i am so anyway it's for the the people in the know the the real men of culture
00:23:39.920 real men of culture women of society yes so anyway you can support us if you want to we
00:23:46.760 appreciate it apparently we don't receive as much as other people and 180 000 a year sounds freaking
00:23:52.200 awesome yeah right but so now guess what gen z thinks they need all right so what do they think
00:23:58.220 they need something remember boomers around a hundred thousand dollars gen x around two hundred
00:24:02.820 thousand dollars millennials 180 gen z what is the what do the children want what do they think they
00:24:08.760 need uh they have a million i guess 587 797 000 500 god my god to to yeah they know and we know
00:24:20.700 that they are never going to get that unless they're in the one percent that actually gets
00:24:24.580 excited about ai and build something cool but that is not everyone or the other one percent that
00:24:29.900 marries them and lucks out everyone else knows they're not going to get that and you know the
00:24:36.360 one way they think they're going to get that is by stealing it by stealing it by socializing it
00:24:44.060 okay the the demand for socialism that we are going to see as ai rises that we already see
00:24:52.280 what's so funny is the group that wants socialism is fighting against the technology that allows for
00:24:58.620 socialism i know i know i know that's the funny thing so elon musk recently had this
00:25:04.480 a very contentious interview with the editor-in-chief of the economist it's so funny to
00:25:10.340 watch the commentary on both sides because our like progressives are like she owned him and then
00:25:15.600 all the rightists are like he owned her and they're like we're all watching the same exact
00:25:19.900 interview and it's so weird we all just don't care about the logic or the arguments being made
00:25:26.800 they're just like she said the points she said the thing yeah i anyway so one thing that on this
00:25:34.320 hole oh i lost my train of thought let's see no you're gonna say something that happened in the
00:25:39.280 article about socialism being allowed through ai oh yes i'm obsessed with ian banks the sci-fi
00:25:44.400 writer in his culture series yes so elon musk and she's like but did you know that ian banks
00:25:50.260 was a socialist and elon musk tries to explain to her and then she cuts him off but yeah the
00:25:58.480 whole point is ai makes capitalism sorry makes communism possible like the whole real communism
00:26:06.600 has not been tried or it makes look the thing about socialism and communism is that you have
00:26:12.040 to steal money from the people who are working which is presumably people working communism was
00:26:18.640 designed for a post-scarcity society but if the people working aren't human if it's ai who's making
00:26:24.180 all the money you can do this stuff yeah yes then you're not stealing from humans anymore it's just 0.57
00:26:29.480 ai being like whatever dudes fine bro whatever that economic system looks like it's likely going
00:26:35.660 to be different than generic capitalism but we're already pretty socialistic we don't let people
00:26:39.120 starve to death like i think we should right if we're extremely socialistic oh we've come on we
00:26:44.060 did like united states is a socialist paradise episode we've done this whole thing but it might
00:26:48.180 yeah it is ironic but my point is that what we can expect as ai rises and as time goes on and
00:26:55.820 as younger generations gain influence and older generations die is an extreme okay it's one of
00:27:02.680 those things of well the dnc won this battle they are going to lose the war younger democrats also
00:27:08.580 So they tend to be more progressive, more critical of institutions and capitalism, more skeptical of the democratic establishment and more left-leaning on foreign policy, especially with regard, of course, to Israel and Palestine and criminal justice.
00:27:26.020 So if you look at Pew's 2026 political typology, adults under 30 and Democrats under 30 specifically are far more likely to fall into groups like leftward progressives.
00:27:35.300 That is to say very progressive across the board and skeptical of the party and left out left, which is Democratic leaning but disillusioned, whereas older Democrats are more likely to be concentrated among Pew's profile called loyal liberals who feel like they're better represented by the party and its leadership.
00:27:52.020 They're about to die. So this is a very temporary maintenance of stability. Also, Gallup data show
00:27:59.160 Democrats under 50 have become notably less positive about capitalism over the last 15 years,
00:28:04.360 while older Democrats' views have shifted a lot less. So they're holding the party to a form of
00:28:11.140 what we would call sanity that's not going to last. And younger Democrats prioritize issues
00:28:16.220 like housing costs. Well, this is why I don't think that we can continue to really operate
00:28:19.940 like a two-party state going forwards right it's good yeah when part one party believes in
00:28:24.920 overthrowing government probably yeah and also younger democrats are way more skeptical of police
00:28:31.060 in the criminal justice system they don't want law and order they are less likely to view police as
00:28:36.180 essential and more supportive of major reforms and rebuilding systems for racial equity whatever
00:28:42.300 that means whereas older democrats obviously you know what it means it means a racial hierarchy
00:28:47.240 it means racism because i thought maybe like racial equity looked if you break the law you're
00:28:53.600 in trouble it doesn't matter what color you are but apparently racial equity means if you break
00:28:58.260 the law but you're this color you're not in trouble yeah the people aren't aware that this
00:29:03.680 is a mainstream position on the left now look at the anthony trial that just happened right look at
00:29:08.340 the just absolute crickets on the left over the woman going to jail for calling a child
00:29:14.420 grapist a grapist no sorry she didn't call him she called him the n-word the other one sorry
00:29:21.380 inward but the one about the n-word was particularly telling because at her trial she they didn't need
00:29:27.680 the witness there to convict her they didn't have him come to stand once yet they wouldn't hold his
00:29:34.080 trial for child grape because the the witness wasn't there anymore so the the standards for
00:29:40.380 trying a black immigrant for grape are significantly lower than the standards for
00:29:46.440 trying a white woman for saying the wrong thing it is astonishing that we're at that point as a
00:29:52.080 country but we are and everybody knows it at this point right everybody can see the severe inequity
00:29:58.280 of how court trials are carried out and the way our justice system works but the way you hear it
00:30:02.560 from mainstream democratic influential voices even voices of people i like like ezra klein
00:30:09.000 it's going to sound very different. This revolution isn't going to sound like we need to
00:30:13.460 destroy the justice system. We need to enact socialism. Like in a recent podcast that Ezra
00:30:19.440 Klein and his guest Ben Wilker did, they just argue that Democrats are losing trust, not just
00:30:25.120 because Trump's appeal, but because many voters see neither party delivering materially better
00:30:31.060 lives. And that party's path forward involves a focus on affordability and democratic legitimacy.
00:30:36.740 with democratic legitimacy, really meaning our side always wins and affordability, meaning
00:30:43.880 someone else pays for everything I want. And I just find this, I don't know, disturbing. So I,
00:30:51.420 one, the reason why I wanted to do this episode is I think that the fact that there was a civil
00:30:56.580 war is important. The fact that the, we'll say radical side lost it is way more trivial
00:31:05.120 than a lot of the people who are having butthurt about losing right now would let on.
00:31:10.700 Okay, this probably means that AOC has absolutely zero shot in 2028,
00:31:15.120 whereas I thought that she did for a while.
00:31:17.580 She's out now.
00:31:18.780 Functionally, her campaign is over before it began.
00:31:22.340 But that doesn't mean that for the next presidential election,
00:31:26.120 there will have been a whole bunch more pent up demand.
00:31:28.440 Maybe what we're going to see in the next cycle is the Democratic Party truly dying.
00:31:33.540 Between this confluence of them having financial troubles and then now choosing not to change when they're getting very strong feedback that people want them to change and become more radical, I feel like that could pave the way for some form of partial or total collapse, followed by a replacement by something far more radical.
00:31:55.240 But what's your read on this?
00:31:56.320 Am I freaking out about nothing or am I seeing real tailwinds? 0.90
00:31:59.840 No, the boomer Democrats are basically controlling the party with an iron fist. 0.93
00:32:04.100 They've shown no interest in letting go of the party that they're controlling with an 0.78
00:32:07.000 iron fist.
00:32:07.800 If you look at the book that I said, the tell-all that came out in 2026, it's called Evan Parker's
00:32:13.200 Nothing Left, Confessions of a Democratic Operative.
00:32:15.600 She talks about how they have aggressively given up on the white working class population.
00:32:21.920 It's not even seen as something that they should want to aspire to like anymore.
00:32:27.340 It's now very much, yeah, white working class people are the problem, right? 0.54
00:32:31.420 She also detailed everything was filtered through race, gender, and identity.
00:32:36.080 Healthcare and economic issues for ordinary workers were considered secondary and had
00:32:39.600 to be reframed in racial terms if anyone was going to listen. 0.87
00:32:42.440 Donors leaving voicemails saying that they wouldn't give candidate wasn't a woman of
00:32:46.660 color if the candidate wasn't a woman of color.
00:32:48.900 Resumes of white men were just discarded.
00:32:51.780 Language policies, e.g. correcting pregnant women to pregnant people.
00:32:54.880 barker argues donors and activists leaned into race and identity politics partially because it
00:33:01.720 let them avoid the harder economic realities of facing non-college workers she notices the average
00:33:06.920 american worker having only about a thousand dollars in retirement savings staffers and
00:33:11.480 consultants allegedly use their own identity and bad face to undercut and settle scores
00:33:16.200 she said at a hollywood movie level of toxicity she she says that the elite progressive type
00:33:24.020 industrialized radicalism she highlights people from wealthy long time leftist families examples
00:33:29.460 include koei cockburn sister of olivius weill who push hard left causes like defund the police style
00:33:37.640 initiatives while living far from the consequences this is something we all see and her breaking 0.74
00:33:43.820 point was getting iced out of campaigning after speaking up the post 2020 woke peak culture and
00:33:50.740 watching the party talk past heartland economic pain basically she's just like i don't care about
00:33:55.400 average which everybody knows but i think she was shocked to see that no they are explicitly a racist
00:34:01.100 party their agenda is explicitly racist and explicitly about racial supremacy and those
00:34:07.560 factions if you wonder what it felt like to be in a country as the nazis were gaining power
00:34:12.800 you are seeing it right now right they believe in a very explicit ethnic hierarchy they believe in
00:34:19.800 that you can and it's something and that's the number one thing to them and a lot of what's
00:34:25.900 getting dropped as i've talked about and i think that we're going to move more in the direction of 0.58
00:34:30.380 these factions getting dropped because of what we're seeing here is the gay agenda if you want
00:34:36.360 to call it anything the where they're keeping their voter base and everything like that is going 0.99
00:34:40.300 to lead to that being dropped more aggressively and faster than otherwise would have you for
00:34:45.780 example if a gay person tried to run and among south carolina black democrats they're not going
00:34:50.020 to win oh i mean were they going to win before no they could win in nevada they could win in 0.88
00:34:55.320 new hampshire they could win in a lot of states yeah yeah but they're not going to win among the
00:34:59.140 the black south carolina democrats yeah and i don't even think somebody but will they go for
00:35:04.800 they will also push back against the islamists though so that that does give us these are the
00:35:10.060 types of democrats that are most likely to find somebody like hassan disgusting or be deeply
00:35:14.440 disinterested in a politician like mandami what is the same with the people who controlled the dmc
00:35:19.340 i think what we're going to see is some sort of coup within sort of the democratic party i think
00:35:24.300 that you could get enough excitement for one of the islamist supporting candidates to actually
00:35:30.480 have them work so i think that's where we're going but that that whole contingent is only
00:35:35.780 going to have a very no it's only going to age and it radicalizes the younger contingents more
00:35:40.040 And I think it shows why we're given a grace period to transition out of a democratic state.
00:35:45.020 But it's something that's likely a conversation that I am increasingly attempting to.
00:35:51.280 And I think that we on the right need to think about if you have the types of people that
00:35:57.700 they want to win in the White House, right?
00:36:00.900 If they take power, elections stop, right?
00:36:05.120 Kamala has basically already said this.
00:36:06.760 She said that the things that she regretted the most was not tabling, changing the way election rules work and stuffing the Supreme Court with justices.
00:36:13.900 It means being ruthless. And we must allow for a real conversation about revisiting certain things.
00:36:28.260 For example, and I know this is going to be controversial coming from me in particular, we need to revisit the Electoral College.
00:36:35.780 we need to revisit the point of expanding the court to 13 justices like we have 13 district
00:36:48.280 courts we need to revisit if they so want statehood for puerto rico and dc yes
00:36:59.580 like oh it's like what she was running on she said she should have run on that she said she
00:37:06.360 should have talked about it more as part of her plans and apparently i guess that means that was
00:37:10.240 part of her plans if they're playing the game this way we need to consider playing the game this way
00:37:14.960 and not in a panicked way not in a running around with like a chicken with her head cut off way
00:37:19.400 but in a just realistically this is the direction we may need to go to have a stable country well
00:37:26.040 this is something that came up in the episode that we ran on the different way that conservatives
00:37:32.540 and liberals view each other with conservatives viewing that hasn't gone live yet this will
00:37:37.360 probably go live before that oh okay so there was research that came out recently that basically
00:37:42.260 said that liberals dehumanize conservatives way more than conservatives realize basically that's
00:37:48.640 the punchline and with that being the case liberals are going to do a lot more to undercut
00:37:53.760 conservatives and conservatives won't realize that they'll be like what look they have a senate
00:37:58.560 majority this year whatever their team won for now haha it's fine and then they don't realize
00:38:04.800 that this this group of people that is in power for this period really hates them and also thinks
00:38:12.360 that they hate them more than they actually do that yeah basically your average conservative
00:38:18.060 unaware of how much the other most conservatives think liberals hate them however much they think
00:38:25.400 they hate you scientifically you are underestimating it and the correction there the market correction
00:38:32.240 there is not to hate them more but to be more willing to take drastic action while still
00:38:37.780 treating them with love and empathy because i think that's what makes the conservative party
00:38:41.160 so strong is what i argued in that episode yeah the the what you argued was that's how you can
00:38:45.220 of can also win them over to your side when they get a little bit of exposure to the right actually
00:38:50.440 what the right is and then realize how not toxic it is how healthy and wholesome it can be it
00:38:56.480 because what you described in that book also that sounded horrible that sounded really yeah not fun
00:39:02.080 whereas it's so clear that the people working for republican like congressmen and stuff are having a
00:39:07.140 good time where they released anthony fauci's diaries and they made the first page styled like
00:39:12.040 teenage girls guidebook and i'm like oh my god i love it's not just the white house twitter team
00:39:17.880 yeah this is not a toxic environment people don't have that level of fun in a toxic environment
00:39:23.100 it's just yeah oh god it's so good it's so good it was yeah let's get trump a third term
00:39:30.980 i really can't tell if he's trolling or serious and i think that the problem i have which everyone
00:39:40.240 has with us too is that the answer is yes he is trolling he is serious he is both is that your
00:39:49.180 take too what he is trolling he is serious running again yeah yeah that's what we want right
00:39:59.460 i would be excited about fans running but
00:40:05.800 the timeline is so weird now that i cannot predict what it will be like in two years
00:40:15.220 oh you are you looking at prediction markets no holy market i know that right now the two
00:40:22.620 top candidates to win the next president are marco rubio or jd vance 20 jd vance okay so
00:40:28.760 20% Judy Vance, 13% Marco Rubio, 11% Gavin Newsom.
00:40:33.820 Wow, why do they think a Republican's going to win?
00:40:37.060 I thought, I figured people's safe bets would be this.
00:40:39.920 It's more that there's just no strong candidate as a Democrat to win.
00:40:44.400 It's insane.
00:40:44.960 So after John Ossoff, 9% is, well, tied with AOC, 9%,
00:40:50.180 they should tank AOC after what happened with South Carolina, right?
00:40:58.760 like why i guess people haven't gone to change who else is running that's the problem who else 1.00
00:41:04.080 okay kamala harris is after that at five percent donald trump's at three percent and then josh
00:41:10.120 shapiro is at three percent so josh shapiro and kamala harris john ossoff i don't know that much
00:41:15.140 about him but maybe him but definitely in terms of both josh shapiro josh shapiro would be a pretty
00:41:24.960 good bet actually everyone argues that kamala probably could have won probably not though
00:41:30.460 because he's a jew hold on there's no way that josh shapiro could win yeah a jew in this political 0.55
00:41:36.880 climate harris oh not again could it be kamala harris again i did it we did a video on that 0.86
00:41:45.640 everyone's like no it won't really happen this far out you wait and see well look at the viable
00:41:51.840 democrats because i just don't know if okay let's see what john ossoff looks like because
00:41:56.980 if you look presidential that really freaking helps i don't know he doesn't look he could
00:42:04.320 look presidential it depends on the photo depends on the photo he's kids he's a wife and kids he's
00:42:11.440 tall that's good he looks to be very tall that helps i could see somebody who i think people
00:42:15.700 he's a democrat from georgia that helps yeah maybe if i had to put my money somewhere
00:42:22.920 i would just do it out of hope that it's not kamala everybody says that the the person who's
00:42:28.300 running who would be incredibly strong if he runs is the biden jr or whatever his name is
00:42:33.740 oh my god yes yes where's he on polymarket hunter biden hunter control f oh no
00:42:45.700 maybe didn't he commit a felony and maybe you're not allowed to run for president no no because
00:42:51.360 he's talked about running he knows he knows at least in the rock johnson is at two percent i
00:42:55.740 would oh we'd have to vote democrat for doing the rock johnson it doesn't matter
00:43:00.600 i would still vote republican but he seems like a cool guy
00:43:04.720 welcome yeah he seems like a cool guy we'll keep pushing the celebrity president era or we cannot
00:43:11.480 bring idiocracy into fruition okay actually but no i think hunter biden is the obvious choice for
00:43:19.280 the next mainstream democrat he's an incredibly strong candidate he appeals to both factions very
00:43:23.580 well yeah he's the rebel he's yeah he's he's the deposed print or like the what's the word
00:43:28.440 the banished prince the bad boy oh god yeah bad boy very trump energy very non-recognized tripper
00:43:36.680 baby yeah he's yeah he could do it maybe he could yeah didn't he wasn't he on with nick
00:43:40.860 fuentes maybe he's really doing the rounds yeah no he did he did an interview with nick fuentes
00:43:44.820 come on he's he knows how to play the game he could pick off a lot of the young conservative
00:43:50.700 men oh he's literally when when fuentes is like i want my faction to join the democrats
00:43:56.720 he could enable that functionally that's okay that's
00:44:01.920 yeah no seriously like nick isn't like performatively joining the democrats he's
00:44:10.720 like fully in on it now right and that's fun i want to read his secret diaries i want to read
00:44:16.440 nick fuentes's diaries and not the fan fiction version that's no doubt on archive of our own
00:44:21.780 damn because he's up to something you know his dear diaries would be so fun today i went to
00:44:29.480 mar-a-lago with kanye or whatever he was calling himself then and we had lunch and they served 0.99
00:44:37.100 chocolate cake that chocolate cake was really good malcolm do you remember it for mar-a-lago
00:44:41.980 yeah i don't remember the cake i remember mar-a-lago i'd be the main takeaway for me on that
00:44:46.640 trip is in person trump is way more charismatic than he is over the air which is saying a lot
00:44:51.200 saying a lot it really is saying a lot that is really damn yeah yeah he's got massive wins i
00:44:58.280 don't have that level of riz i could never i will admit when i am when you've been out yeah i'm a 0.89
00:45:04.740 very arrogant person i'm a very self-confident person and i'm here not as self-confident as
00:45:10.340 trump you would not call newspapers and pretend to be your press agent yeah i don't have that 0.91
00:45:16.380 yes that is my favorite is when i hear like super hard left like trans hard left go on about how
00:45:27.580 they're like, it's a shame that Trump became a politician because he's such a great character.
00:45:32.020 They want to love him. And they do secretly. They just hate the concept of him.
00:45:38.860 What a guy, huh? Yeah. I also understand why he's so obsessed with the White House ballroom.
00:45:45.940 It just, as much as everyone's, they hate on it now, all future presidents are going to be so 0.98
00:45:52.160 thrilled about it as a fundraising venue that's it's like stupid to even i don't know why the 0.96
00:46:00.080 democrats aren't practically paying for it they're the ones who need to fundraise more 0.98
00:46:03.720 you can just mint money with the ballroom like that because who in their right mind is going to
00:46:09.180 turn down a fundraising dinner invitation at the white house malcolm yeah it pays for itself
00:46:15.200 unfortunately it doesn't because that's not how the money is going to flow but like
00:46:18.960 anyway like that that giant dining room at mar-a-lago like obviously
00:46:25.740 trump must have figured out that he must know and use it as a cash cow and mar-a-lago was
00:46:33.400 previously a presidential retreat like all of this makes sense all of this anyway way off topic
00:46:39.820 i love you so much love you too who are apparently loose in the house on the buck show when you use
00:46:45.900 it in the fried rice tonight yes be sure to wash it after the leaves have been taken out because i
00:46:50.320 noticed like bugs and rotting things in between the leaves trust me i always fully submerge i do
00:46:55.620 not trust no you didn't you didn't i didn't say fully if you fully submerge it it will not clean
00:47:00.900 it you have to fully submerge it leaves up i know every it doesn't you can't so if you were to fully
00:47:06.640 submerge like a head of lettuce in water you have done functionally nothing that i'm aware of this
00:47:13.160 i have watched thousands of hours of cooking shows as a functional anorexic teenager okay
00:47:18.540 i know how this works i know the methods it's fine it will be but yeah don't have too much
00:47:26.240 because we still got some other stuff to go through some other stuff to go through don't
00:47:29.600 we still have some shishitos and peppers actually so i pre-cut this last night so i'm not going to
00:47:34.120 do the bok choy tonight i'm going to start using it tomorrow night if you don't mind okay great
00:47:37.240 because we're also it's the weekend tomorrow so we're going to be like unable to leave the house
00:47:42.020 We've got to gas this floor because we keep finding wasps.
00:47:44.760 So we've got to find something to go out and do.
00:47:48.280 I'm going to wait until Monday.
00:47:49.600 I want to fact find.
00:47:52.940 We've only found three so far.
00:47:55.300 That's a lot of wasps.
00:47:57.980 I could tape off.
00:47:59.400 We can tape off the doors.
00:48:01.360 Do you want to just do that?
00:48:02.240 Just tape off the doors?
00:48:03.720 Where do you think they're coming from?
00:48:05.100 You think they're coming from the hallway?
00:48:05.840 I think they're in the attic.
00:48:06.800 They're in the attic.
00:48:08.180 There's a nest in the...
00:48:09.100 I'm pretty sure there's a nest in my attic.
00:48:14.120 Oh, that'd be really easy to solve then.
00:48:17.720 Yeah, you just, I have to run an extension cord up there, but yeah.
00:48:21.560 All right.
00:48:22.060 The idea is I run it up there.
00:48:23.720 I tape the door.
00:48:24.600 I run it up there.
00:48:25.960 The ozone kills the wafts.
00:48:27.460 Unless the attic is incredibly permeable to outside air.
00:48:31.120 I don't think it's that permeable.
00:48:32.620 I think it's going to be enough.
00:48:34.360 Because we've got to-
00:48:34.920 No, I think that would be enough.
00:48:36.240 Yeah.
00:48:36.480 so what do you so keep in mind the attics are connected so if they're in your attic for
00:48:40.780 whatever reason it will probably also get to it i would have to run it in max you need to
00:48:44.820 vacate the floor and open all the windows immediately if you smell ozone of course
00:48:48.380 like yeah but i think i can have you still working upstairs and do it by if we take both of the doors
00:48:55.540 okay 1.00
00:48:56.420 gotta kill those wasps 1.00
00:49:02.260 i know i feel bad for the one wasp that's stuck under the cup 1.00
00:49:09.140 okay release it outside but it'll just be back inside tomorrow if it's living inside and you
00:49:15.600 release it outside it's just coming right back inside and you're going to gas their nest anyway
00:49:21.600 no you are too empathetic simone she'll die with her friends that way 0.96
00:49:28.640 okay release her outside and deal with it i would want to die with my friends
00:49:35.480 right now she's just very scared and alone 1.00
00:49:38.660 okay bye you're two of this is women this is why women can't be president 1.00
00:49:49.680 Malcolm, who deals with all the dead animals, okay? 1.00
00:49:53.400 Who?
00:49:54.380 Okay, I love you, Simone.
00:49:56.480 I love you, too.
00:49:58.580 Titan, what do you call this?
00:50:00.440 Get that sail away so I can do my gymnastics.
00:50:03.900 Your gymnastics?
00:50:05.300 Yeah.
00:50:06.060 Okay.
00:50:09.580 What do you call your move, Titan?
00:50:12.400 Stand over! Stand over!
00:50:14.920 Fan over what that was pretty impressive Toasty can you do it again whoa I'm watching right now
00:50:37.520 friend. Yeah I'm taking a video Toasty doing his little flip-a-roo. You're not
00:50:47.700 scared Toasty. You're the bravest of all. Go Toasty go. Go Toasty go. Go Toasty go.
00:50:54.960 Go Toasty go. Is that your move Toasty?
00:51:07.520 Whoa! There you go. Ooh, full flip. It's a backflip. It's a backflip. And there's
00:51:18.640 the chicken just hanging out. Hi, Indie girl. Can I swing? You want to swing?
00:51:31.520 are you alarmed by the fast movement girly 1.00
00:51:46.760 guys 0.75
00:51:50.600 okay come with me love let's see what the chickens are up to