Based Camp - Epstein & Us： Same Game, Different Teams？ (Understanding the World of Elite Power Politics)

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today today is an episode i have been

00:00:03.840 so jonesing to do so excited to do because as the epstein files have continued to be combed through

00:00:12.000 by people a lot of people what they are noting is epstein in terms of the world views he had

00:00:22.240 in terms of some of the people who he rubbed shoulders with is very similar from an outside

00:00:29.600 perspective from a fuzzy like a grease on the limbs perspective to us no so just as a few examples

00:00:38.640 here so like because tim pool had an episode where he did a very good job going over like the dark

00:00:42.800 transhumanism of epstein and you know they're pointing out obviously the one that a lot of

00:00:47.760 people know about is the farm where he was going to have impregnate 21 and they were just going to

00:00:52.400 have lots of his kids it wasn't a farm it was a large ranch compound in new mexico

00:00:57.120 well it sounds a lot like a human farm to me simone yeah you can you can call it what you

00:01:04.960 want you just know how to make things sound so charming that he was working on and funding

00:01:11.120 human germaling gene editing research editing human genetics he was looking at how to upload

00:01:17.680 human sentience to machines so that he could live longer he was interested in alternate forms of

00:01:24.560 governance structure no he was interested in and people have known it broke from the guardian that

00:01:31.680 we had we're working on a plan to create a charter city essentially a independent region he did not

00:01:40.160 really no that we were going to not that we were yeah we were going to yes but he was also working on

00:01:47.920 similar ideas no that it and with some people who even we've talked to that he was looking at ai

00:01:56.480 safety related stuff and how a oh he was even working on ai sex bots which you know we've created with

00:02:03.040 our fab.ai so we look at these various projects and people see this right and they go you guys you

00:02:11.760 you guys seem to work on a lot of the same stuff like what's going on here and before i go into the

00:02:18.880 specifics because i really want to go into the the specifics of what he actually said not what people

00:02:24.400 are saying about what he said because i think a lot of the epstein stuff goes through a bit of a game

00:02:28.160 of telephone and you just get a vague idea of what was scandalous instead of you're like oh this is

00:02:34.480 what he was saying to nick bostrom he knew nick bostrom you know this you know you're like okay

00:02:40.400 okay okay this is more i can i can see where this conversation went this way but before we get into

00:02:46.080 that stuff i want to get into the broader claims here because i think that what we're actually looking

00:02:52.080 at is a lot of people who are blinded by the way our society sort of functions in terms of

00:03:04.320 the plebs as teams with it being the the right leaning team and the left leaning team right like

00:03:11.600 this is the two big teams that the plebs see and what the plebs are unaware of broadly speaking is that

00:03:20.880 that is not the way things are actually divided in elite society those are not the actual two teams that

00:03:29.040 are out there each team basically has their players and their players are distributed throughout

00:03:36.480 each of the various ecosystems you know this is why at a lot of people i always said you know steve

00:03:42.960 bannon he's not on our side guys he's not on our side of the guys and people at the beginning they

00:03:48.000 were like oh you're really undercounting steve bannon it turns out he's besties was jeff epstein

00:03:52.080 right like and he worked really hard and spent a lot of money and time i think there's 22 hours of

00:03:58.080 footage of him trying to create a documentary to rehabilitate epstein's image after he was confirmed

00:04:04.880 the underage mex trafficking don't do that no with the point being is you look at these networks and

00:04:13.280 you can see if you're aware of the elite networks that like we are in epstein was almost sort of

00:04:20.160 weirdly never able to successfully break into that side of the network he was never really able to do

00:04:27.120 anything with peter thiel never really able to do anything provable with elon he was never able to

00:04:34.080 by the way fun epstein fact that's come out recently is it looks like donald trump was actually one of

00:04:39.520 the very first epstein whistleblowers which has come out in some of the newer epstein files which

00:04:44.880 people are being like this is absolutely wild and and and not only that but remember how we keep saying

00:04:50.880 it looks like epstein like genuinely hates donald trump and has been trying to ruin donald like

00:04:55.760 that they were he's done it out for him for a very long time for the vast majority of this period it has

00:05:00.480 been epstein the reason why we know now it was because epstein believed when the early arrest started

00:05:08.160 happening and everything like that that the the process the process that ended up with epstein in jail and

00:05:14.160 unaliving began was donald trump going to authorities about him really so he was the did did trump

00:05:22.960 bringing things up actually ignite anything it appears to have been part of what got the ball

00:05:29.520 rolling because he was the first like super famous person to push on it oh wow okay which is a wild

00:05:36.800 timeline to be living in no i'm not saying that trump didn't do horrible sex stuff as well and the creepy

00:05:43.440 comments he made about like the miss universe pageant and stuff like that but the but the point i'm

00:05:47.760 making here broadly speaking is that there actually are elite networks but the elite networks don't

00:05:55.760 operate the way that the average conspiracy theorist seems to think that they operate in fact the types of

00:06:03.520 secret societies that you and i have you know provably been involved with epstein was never invited to any of

00:06:10.480 those he never got in to any of those he was never able to infiltrate those and the question is like

00:06:17.360 why what's going on here right like that seems weird he said he also never go to the boat well

00:06:22.400 i guess you wouldn't be able to i don't think i do not think he ever got into the bohemian grove actually

00:06:26.480 i'll just double check this curious no evidence at all yeah he never got into the bohemian grove now

00:06:32.000 you know epstein wanted to get into the bohemian grove 100 you know that he wanted to get into

00:06:39.200 dialogue you know he want which was the thing that simone was managing director of for period

00:06:43.200 you know that he wanted to get into something like renaissance weekend again an organization

00:06:47.840 that he was never in you know an affiliated organization too you know that he wanted to

00:06:52.880 get into well schmidt futures programs where we managed like a secret society thing for them but

00:06:58.880 you know that he wanted to be involved with what schmidt futures is doing eric schmidt's org right

00:07:02.800 nothing right so the question here is and and and i'm i'm explaining this to you guys like the

00:07:11.120 general public because you're like he seemed to have his fingers in everything but if you're actually in

00:07:15.200 the elite networks what's weirder is how much he didn't have his fingers in yeah it's really that

00:07:21.920 his fingers were in one side of the elite battle network right um and and this is gets really cool

00:07:30.480 because we can take you guys into like a bit of the behind the scenes of what's going on with

00:07:35.040 actual elite power politics because we have a lot of background in that field and and for people who

00:07:40.720 are coming to this and are like what background do you have quick thing simone used to be the

00:07:44.320 managing director of dialogue which is the secret society set up by peter tiel we also go to heretic

00:07:48.720 con which is another secret society that's been set up by him the new york times leaked that we

00:07:53.440 know i can't say anything more than that elon there has been we were working on a secret

00:07:58.960 society for schmidt futures that ended up being shut down but this was you know eric schmidt's

00:08:03.440 circle we also the vegan grove i've i've been i have a lot of connections to management of that

00:08:09.440 but i try to i don't know like what i'm allowed to say in di ways around that and in terms of

00:08:16.960 what's the other big one oh yes the illuminati now this isn't real but supposedly i am the oldest

00:08:22.000 male of the collins bloodline of the illuminati which is what the joe rogan crash out came from

00:08:26.640 but like even in terms of like lore i'm supposed to be in with secret societies but like that's

00:08:30.960 actually been a part of our job like our career is partially secret societies that was our family's

00:08:37.680 core source of income for a while right like during during covet specifically and so the question here

00:08:45.040 is how does how does all of this actually work and why wasn't epstein able to pierce these networks

00:08:50.320 and what what's actually going on so i'm gonna use a native american analogy here i think a lot of

00:08:57.360 conservative people when they look at us and the germline gene editing stuff and the pumping out lots

00:09:04.320 of kids stuff and the artificial womb tech stuff and they see this stuff it feels to me and they and

00:09:10.640 they look at us and they mean oh this is this is you are like jeffrey epstein right it's a bit like a

00:09:16.080 a native american tribe or somebody from a native american tribe that is a very small c conservative

00:09:20.720 tribe right they don't they don't use any of the new technology they don't use any of the new stuff

00:09:24.800 they want to stick to their old ways a hundred percent they go and they visit another tribe

00:09:30.640 and this other tribe has factories and guns and cannons and they go oh my god you're exactly like

00:09:39.520 the europeans look you have all of this stuff that i also see the europeans having and the other tribe

00:09:46.560 and it and and then this tribe is like i am terrified of you now right because you're like the europeans

00:09:52.320 now you you shouldn't have this stuff we we should all get together and form an alliance saying that we

00:09:58.160 are not going to have any of this stuff and the other tribe is of course just looking at them like you

00:10:03.280 sweet summer child like look we can stay allied with you like we want to preserve native american

00:10:08.160 civilization in the same way you do but the reality is is we are not looking to fight you you are not

00:10:15.120 a threat to us you are not relevant to us we have all of this technology the guns everything like that

00:10:22.000 the factories because we are actually realistically playing to win and those that are fundamentally opposed

00:10:31.680 to us the the europeans in this context they're not going to turn off their factories and put down

00:10:38.720 their weapons so we can all kumbaya around a tree because somebody decided to have a vote about this

00:10:44.560 right they're just going to move somewhere else and use force to take our stuff this is the reality of

00:10:51.120 human civilization at this point the people who say i'm not going to use ai the people who say i'm not

00:10:58.640 going to use genetic technology or i'm not going to maximize the number of kids i have i'm not playing

00:11:04.080 that pro natalist game that you're playing we can ally with you primarily like even if your ideologies

00:11:10.640 are very divergent from ours primarily because you're not particularly relevant in the long flow of human

00:11:16.160 civilization right like the the core clashes are going to be the the super soldiers against the super

00:11:23.920 soldiers right it's not the it's it's a bit like the amish or something like that right like

00:11:30.880 the amish can say oh we're opting out of of technological progress and we're okay with that

00:11:36.720 we'll protect them like i i want the amish to be able to live their lifestyle right i support a diversity

00:11:41.760 of lifestyles within morally aligned communities to our own but if they come to us and they say well and

00:11:49.120 you should give up all your stuff as well even the amish don't try to do this because they know

00:11:52.960 that if everyone in america gave up our weapons and our factories and everything like that the

00:11:57.280 amish communities would soon be eradicated by ideological forces that oppose them

00:12:03.920 and i think that the epstein files in terms of the actual elite power networks and why i have

00:12:09.200 for a while said things like oh i am antagonistic to individuals like bannon and and and like ben

00:12:16.640 shapiro and i think a lot of people didn't understand like where i was seeing the connections in all of

00:12:20.400 this is that they aren't on our side remotely they're on the opposite side of the elite power

00:12:26.960 network and note here i'm using ben shapiro as an example here not because he's in the epstein files

00:12:33.120 because he's a good example of somebody who isn't who falls into this opposite side power network

00:12:39.600 and now before i get into all the actual epstein transhumanism stuff which is really interesting

00:12:44.480 and again i don't i don't call i'm not a transhumanist i'm a super soldierist okay

00:12:50.160 correct i want to get into what actually defines the two coherent ideologies of the elite power

00:12:58.560 networks but before i try to delineate that i'm wondering simone because i want to hear you

00:13:03.600 unbiased by me what have you noticed are sort of the two actual ideological factions

00:13:08.880 so i i think there's the sort of decentralized libertarian faction and then there's the i guess

00:13:19.280 you could say caliphate faction which is i am going to rule over these people and dictate how they rule

00:13:25.520 and use them versus the i want us all to go be space cowboys and compete and engage in trade but

00:13:35.360 otherwise be independent and autonomous that's kind of how i see it yeah i i went through a similar i

00:13:41.840 think that you are in state there is actually right one faction wants us to be space cowboys

00:13:47.840 and the other faction wants to be dictators and secretly control everyone but what's interesting

00:13:54.320 is that the space cowboy faction has a lot of dictator people in it so what i mean by this is curtis

00:14:01.520 yarvin is in the space cowboy faction right like and yet he's famously pro-monarchy right so it's not

00:14:08.400 people who are really pro-monarchy don't talk about it in public they're trying to control everyone from

00:14:15.600 behind the scenes i i disagree and i actually i would say that the the better way to understand the

00:14:22.640 two factions if i was going to put this to like the average pleb in like the world today is actually

00:14:29.120 closer to a monarchist faction and a noblest faction if you're familiar or you read like

00:14:36.080 i love my you know korean romance novels that take place during medieval european history because

00:14:43.520 they're not full of like you know right now if i try to read like a a a american written one or a

00:14:50.000 european written one that takes place in like european history it'll sprinkle in a bunch of like random

00:14:55.760 indians or something right and it's like well why are you doing this this is medieval europe

00:15:00.640 a bunch of people in wheelchairs that was in bridgerton or something recently but the point

00:15:05.120 being is so i'm i'm very big in this and there's typically two factions and what i think is interesting

00:15:10.640 about the two factions is the faction that is more sort of diffusion of power based that they are

00:15:21.200 typically the worst faction if you're the plebs so if you're the plebs if you're an average citizen

00:15:27.200 of a country during you know the historic periods and stuff like this you're typically better with

00:15:33.280 the monarchist faction winning than the noblest faction winning because the noblest faction is

00:15:39.120 typically about grabbing as much money as possible from as many people as possible to feed the nobles

00:15:45.680 whereas the monarchist faction has a smaller centralized power base and thus relies on the

00:15:51.440 average citizen more yeah now i'm not saying that that's a perfect they also need the average citizen

00:15:56.800 to run interference between the nobility and them because the nobility is mostly usually the greatest

00:16:04.160 threat to the monarchy yes yeah and that that's actually a but i but i'm gonna go further here and

00:16:11.840 say that that's not exactly it but i think that that's a bigger example i think if you are foolish

00:16:18.240 and you look at the monarchist versus the noblest factions fighting you can be like well the noblest

00:16:23.280 factions seem like more pro like democracy and sharing power therefore they're more aligned with

00:16:29.120 my interests when in reality they often the opposite is the is is the reality of the situation and that's

00:16:35.520 why i was putting that there and i'm just saying like you you look at these two factions fighting and

00:16:38.880 you don't understand like what's what's actually going on here but i think that the best actual

00:16:45.680 divider between the two factions is a institutionalist faction and an anti-institutionalist

00:16:52.480 faction would be the the true differentiator of the two factions oh interesting and the institutionalist

00:16:59.200 faction if you're wondering like which group are they this is davos this is you know the world economic

00:17:05.840 forum this is steve yeah this is and people can be like but steve bannon says he's against all that

00:17:13.760 stuff you thought yeah you think he wasn't he all about drain the swamp in the original days

00:17:19.360 right but he was never actually about it and i've said this forever like this is why he's all pro

00:17:24.000 epstein and secret control networks and everything like that he is a populist to sell the to basically

00:17:30.240 fool the idiots who don't understand that he wants to set up a new deep state right like they don't

00:17:36.000 understand that the actual plan of some of these individuals is to set up new networks of control

00:17:41.840 and the easy it's actually easy to tell which network somebody is in by how they begin acting

00:17:49.440 as soon as they get power that's the key thing it's true yeah it doesn't matter how someone acts when

00:17:54.640 they don't have power what matters is what they do when they do yeah so a great example is how has

00:18:01.200 steve bannon or ben shapiro for example acted as they've gained power they have attempted to set up

00:18:08.240 new extremely hierarchical media networks that serve their personal agendas and and are trying to

00:18:16.960 implement their personal agendas both in terms of policy and in terms of the base

00:18:22.960 um and they do not just go out there and work with whoever is doing a good job at whatever they're

00:18:30.720 doing now contrast this with like say elon musk right elon musk despite the enormous wealth that he has built

00:18:40.800 and the ways that he has done things like bought twitter now x right when he bought x the next thing he did

00:18:48.000 was not trying to turn x into like the new daily wire or something like that was like a new hierarchy

00:18:54.080 of like these are the top people and everything like that he actually worked to decentralize the way x

00:18:59.760 worked and not only did he work to decentralize the way x worked he was regularly getting community noted

00:19:06.480 by the very platform that he owned if for example steve bannon had bought x do you think he would have

00:19:13.760 allowed x to community note himself probably not no no and this is actually a good into intuitive mark

00:19:21.520 that you can be like in terms of like which side is this person on if they had bought x would they

00:19:27.200 allow x to community note them if ben shapiro had bought x would he allow x to community note ben shapiro

00:19:35.360 no he would not if bill gates had bought x would he allow bill gates to be community noted in x with

00:19:43.760 like these recent x scene drops no that would disappear but in terms of the the power players

00:19:50.320 in the alternate faction like for example us and it was funny it's recently the podcast i think it was

00:19:57.680 what was it the the one about fertility ill-conceived they had a thing where they were like going through

00:20:07.520 with somebody because they they refused to talk about us because they're scared to talk about us

00:20:12.320 but they're like and can you guess who was running this because they were talking about like one random

00:20:17.200 initiative and the person was like hitler and then they were like no like actually make a guess and

00:20:22.160 they go it wasn't the collins this was it and it's sort of like for them as they're digging into

00:20:26.640 this world it's like all leads that lead back but like if you look at us would we allow ourselves to

00:20:30.720 be community noted of course we would i mean anyone who knows like we don't actually delete anything i

00:20:36.800 don't i've never deleted a comment critical of us and i really get disappointed when people think

00:20:41.360 that google's auto delete is us i'm like we have actually when you said that i was like you can delete

00:20:47.520 comments can you on youtube yeah i heard you can well people say that we do it so you must be able

00:20:53.520 i've never even no okay now i'm actually checking i've never actively modded our own discord i've

00:21:00.720 never deleted anything because i feel like i don't know i like to watch reddish stark i see what happens

00:21:07.200 to people when they try to control the narrative about them and it just makes it worse and it makes

00:21:12.720 it it makes you look very suspicious okay no it makes you look suspicious to people within the

00:21:19.760 anti-institutionalist faction okay within the reply thumbs up thumbs down heart i i like hearts and

00:21:26.400 thumbs up and dot dot dot okay then brainstorm video ideas whoa it allows you to take a comment

00:21:33.760 and brainstorm videos ideas with with ai remove oh you can remove so here's an example of what i mean

00:21:41.120 it's about ad users managing moderator standard moderator we can make no we would only need

00:21:50.240 moderators on youtube if we wanted people to delete comments and that's true yeah that's true damn okay

00:21:56.160 sorry apparently i have deleted comments on reddit but nothing about us only stuff that i thought would

00:22:02.080 get the subreddit banned but now it's shadow banned so whatever i don't care anymore but the point i was

00:22:06.800 making here is think about because you're like oh that makes you look bad oh that makes you look

00:22:11.760 shady it does only makes you look shady to followers in the anti-institutionalist faction

00:22:18.320 so here's an example of what i mean by this if reddit thornburg deleted comments in her instagram

00:22:24.480 that were critical of gretta thornburg do you think that her fans would care one iota no

00:22:31.200 if breitbart deleted comments that were critical of steve bannon do you think your average steve

00:22:37.520 bannon enthusiast is actually going to care that much they're going to be like no that tracks

00:22:42.080 if daily wire deleted comments that were critical of ben shapiro do you think that your average daily

00:22:48.720 no they'd just be like i don't like it but yeah that tracks whatever they wouldn't like being an

00:22:52.960 uproar whereas if you and i started to actively do that people would freak the f out right a great

00:22:58.560 example just conceived was elon where while he has been fairly lenient in terms of banning criticism

00:23:03.120 of him on x he did unfollow and give a temporary suspension to asthma gold for pointing out he was

00:23:08.080 cheating in exile and the backlash from our side was enormous because that goes against our wider

00:23:15.600 ideological faction and this is it it's almost like the world like we're in the assassin's creed timeline

00:23:25.200 there actually are the templars and the assassins and the templars are the good guys of course we can

00:23:29.600 all agree on that right but people misunderstand what actually divides the two factions and they

00:23:36.400 think that it falls into the standard politics that they are used to playing on the internet interesting

00:23:44.080 so what's the core ideology that is underlines this belief about something like banning like what what

00:23:49.680 what actually fundamentally is different about these two factions well both factions believe in the

00:23:55.120 concept of an elite that some humans are going to be better than others either because of their

00:24:00.560 choices or their level of education they have chosen to compete or because of genetics just it is

00:24:05.520 patently like you you are living in a fantasy world if you think that all humans are exactly as

00:24:13.040 productive as all other humans are exactly as smart or is exactly as insightful and so both factions are well

00:24:19.280 aware of this especially if you're in elite circles the difference between the two factions is that our

00:24:24.960 faction generally doesn't gatekeep if you can prove yourself you are there we want to create a world in

00:24:31.520 which anyone is capable of proving themselves and entering the sort of elite movers and shakers of

00:24:38.000 society and building the future we want for humanity whereas for the other side they want to maintain an

00:24:44.160 ability to exclude even competent individuals if those individuals refuse subservience to the existing

00:24:51.200 power hierarchy and this is where you can see something like a large organization like say you know

00:24:57.600 steve vannon's org or something like that turning away even competent people in the right-wing space

00:25:03.360 if they're if they're not willing to bend the knee and this is true of you know bill gates orgs this is

00:25:08.240 true of a lot of that stuff but you're not going to see that type of thing on our side although we

00:25:13.280 fix that very interestingly by almost creating organizations that don't have gatekeepers in the

00:25:18.320 first place whether this is the way that you know asthma gold has risen as an influencer or the way that

00:25:25.360 somebody like elon acts when he buys x instead of turning it into an alternate but more meritocratic

00:25:32.880 iteration of something like breitbart he just tries to improve things that are truly democratic like

00:25:37.600 community notes now well i will say that both factions and i've pointed this out but i should

00:25:43.680 clarify it it's not that there is a right wing and a left wing faction the faction that wants to

00:25:49.280 be able to accept anyone who can prove themselves into the power structure has players on both the

00:25:54.720 right and left wing sides but it is definitely leaning right now to the new right side of things and the

00:26:02.160 other faction is leaning to the left side of things not in terms of overall membership base but in terms

00:26:09.600 of the absolute elites of the elites within each faction and the size of the various orgs within each

00:26:17.200 faction an example of this would be even institutional players like the heritage foundation seem fairly

00:26:26.800 aligned with the meritocratic faction for an idea of just how meritocratic an organization like the

00:26:32.240 heritage foundation is obviously simona mind's ideology and the new right ideology more broadly but

00:26:37.120 specifically ours is orthogonal to theirs in many many many ways if they wanted to try to just play

00:26:44.320 the bend the knee game or agree with us game they could but they don't and not like one individual in

00:26:51.680 the organization multiple individuals in the organization regularly talk with us they invite us to events

00:26:56.000 et cetera et cetera and they care what we have to say and use it in terms of their navigation that

00:27:02.800 doesn't mean that they go along with whatever our ideas are it just means that they've noticed a new

00:27:09.120 faction has been able to rise within the right in the united states and they don't immediately see their

00:27:14.640 job as somebody like ben shapiro or steve bannon would to quash it it is to understand and integrate it

00:27:21.920 whereas in the left there's almost no organization that's that's as old or well known it's a heritage

00:27:28.400 foundation it's more that is actually truly meritocratic it's more that there are individual

00:27:33.520 players and intellectuals on the left who are also as a side note here despite the immense power they

00:27:39.120 wield in united states politics efstein was unable to get anything on the heritage foundation he did

00:27:44.720 there's no scandals there another group that he was unable to get anything on is turning points usa although

00:27:49.440 their rise was a little after his time i really don't know where they fall in terms of all this

00:27:54.480 because i haven't interacted with him that much in summary there are broadly two coherent elite

00:27:59.360 strategies gatekeep and call epstein's faction rule forever over a diminished distracted population

00:28:05.120 and open the gates and accelerate our faction flood the future with high agency high iq humans

00:28:10.560 who can compete in the stars this is not again a left right or even capitalist socialist dichotomy it's

00:28:17.600 between a future of sovereign high agency humans expanding into the universe and those who want

00:28:22.720 a managed striated low slack anthill with themselves or their bloodline at the top and in the end only

00:28:30.800 one of these groups is likely to win when you get distracted by those who want to divide the vitalist

00:28:39.440 pro-human anti-anthill faction by pointing out well they're different from you here and they're different

00:28:44.560 from you here and look at this naughty thing that they're doing here you play in to the epstein

00:28:49.280 faction side of things that's what they want and that's why they plant themselves across political

00:28:54.560 parties now i want to go i want to i want to keep going here and basically they're wondering like what

00:29:00.720 i meant by the the core thing that makes jeffrey epstein and us similar is that we're both actually

00:29:06.240 playing to keeps we're both actually playing to win and within our individual ideological factions there

00:29:13.200 are other people who appreciate that and want somebody like that on the team even if they have

00:29:18.560 a different theology or even different politics than us what people might be surprised about is the

00:29:23.840 secret societies within our factions actually are pretty politically diverse so it's it's not an issue

00:29:29.520 of politics even right it's an issue of the in state of humanity and as simone said like the core

00:29:35.440 difference is space cowboys versus and for them it's not even about humanity becoming space cowboys they

00:29:41.360 don't care they want themselves and their families to eventually rule that's the goal and a lot of

00:29:48.320 the politics between here and there are irrelevant to actually sort of each faction like within our

00:29:55.360 faction people can be like well why don't you support like the libertarian values and i'm like because i

00:29:59.120 want everything on the table like i want to be able to have a conversation with curtis yarvin where

00:30:02.560 monarchy is on the table right like the the faction isn't about that but anyway to continue here

00:30:07.840 so on fascism as an efficient government for control blended with transhumanism and ai for elite

00:30:16.480 power bach wrote quote the radical idea of treating individuals in a society as cells and the society

00:30:24.000 itself as a well-organized organism is fascism of course by the way this is to epstein in a conversation

00:30:30.560 they're having oh okay probably the most efficient and rational stringent way of governance if somebody

00:30:37.680 could pull it off in a sustainable way i rather like the treatment fascism gets in the amazon series

00:30:42.880 the man in the high castle which explores what would happen if the germans and the japanese had won the war

00:30:48.080 a society that tries to function as brutal and ruthless efficiency of machines eliminating all social

00:30:54.160 and evolutionary slack end quote epstein engaged positively praising box quote-unquote political

00:31:00.160 incorrectness and contributing ties to transhumanism via ai as a tool for efficient societal machines

00:31:06.480 whereas elites enhanced via neural implants and longevity tech epstein funded maintain power over the

00:31:12.800 quote-unquote slack on population control viewing masses as expendable via climate culling tied to

00:31:20.000 box stated quote maybe climate change is a good way of dealing with overpopulation the earth's forest

00:31:26.240 fire dot dot dot potentially a good thing for the species end quote he added quote too many people

00:31:32.320 so many mass executions of the elderly and infirms make sense if the brain discards unused neurons

00:31:39.680 why should society keep the their equivalent end quote epstein built on this discussing genetic hierarchies

00:31:47.680 saying quote it seems that greece and rome had a class society that allowed the upper classes to

00:31:54.640 have more offspring than the lower classes and large social mobility based on iq than our current

00:32:01.040 arrangement in a quote this frames modern abundance eg welfare and easy survival as disrupting quote-unquote

00:32:07.440 national natural selection justifying artificial interventions like the climate crisis to quote-unquote

00:32:13.440 call the unfit thoughts what's interesting about this conversation is it is not dissimilar with the

00:32:20.880 conversations like it's not totally disconnected from conversations i have heard on our side of

00:32:26.560 things it's the way that like the idea that you have some sort of and people can be like oh we are so

00:32:33.760 against the idea of elite classes ruling non-elite classes i'm like i'm sorry every pretty much every

00:32:42.320 white wing influencer supports that that is functionally the only way to make society work

00:32:48.240 whether or not you're talking about nick fuentes or candace owens or even alex jones right like he

00:32:54.640 might say it in different ways he might put on some populist undertone or something like that but

00:32:59.680 he thinks some people are smarter than other people some groups are smarter than other groups

00:33:04.000 and you don't want the stupid people ruling everything right so i i i love it that the average

00:33:09.120 person is like can you believe that he said that whereas what is actually more nefarious and you

00:33:16.960 would not hear in our circles is using climate change to implement something like this right to be like

00:33:24.240 how do we trick the idiot masses into doing what we want yeah our side is always very very transparent

00:33:35.920 about what we are doing and our goals um for example as far as i've heard there is literally

00:33:42.160 nothing elon thinks in private that he is not saying in public about his plans for the future of humanity

00:33:48.720 he seems to be pretty transparent about these things yeah and it's the same with us there is no secret

00:33:54.240 mohahaha well there is but the mohahaha happens in public because it's way funnier because it's fun

00:34:00.720 yeah absolutely what's actually also kind of effing wild and it's the same with trump i don't think that

00:34:08.240 trump has like a mohahaha in private he does he does all of his he says what is on his mind it's very simple

00:34:16.080 in public yes and you see this right is it jd vance too like jd vance we've had a historic period where

00:34:22.640 i think originally his conversion may have been fueled in part by the political ambition or economic

00:34:30.080 ambition but i don't think it is now he seems pretty genuine right now when i hear him talk on stuff

00:34:34.560 and he's connected to this side of the networks i mean he's not in the epstein files right so you know

00:34:41.120 i i i think that that that sort of is a huge differentiator as well the transparency of the

00:34:50.560 two factions which i think can make our faction look scarier to people when they don't know that

00:34:57.120 no behind the scenes you know the other side is working on genetic technology as well they're working

00:35:03.360 on artificial wombs as well they just don't want to make them available to everyone and i think that

00:35:09.120 people can hear this and be like oh well they're trying to launder you know their vision of there

00:35:14.560 are some elites and some not elites and genes are real and population collapse is real and some

00:35:19.440 populations are actually going to be replaced populations that don't engage with ai are not

00:35:23.920 going to have the military or technological or social or economic power to maintain their sovereignty

00:35:30.960 against powers that use ai and it's the same with populations that absolutely refuse to use any

00:35:36.400 form of genetic technology or augment themselves if we're talking about the long span of human history

00:35:43.200 they will eventually be subjugated by the powers that are using genetic technology unless they have

00:35:48.720 some faction that they are allied with that is using genetic technology to protect them in the same way

00:35:53.920 the amish rely on the americans to protect them technologically speaking this isn't left versus

00:35:59.760 right or one faction of the elite versus another faction of the elite both factions at the top at the

00:36:05.680 agentic level recognize all these things this is reality versus non-reality this is the indians

00:36:12.240 insisting on fighting the europeans with clubs versus the indians who say we're going to need guns if

00:36:17.920 we're going to stand a fighting chance and if you and your people say that you cannot win a fight with

00:36:23.840 guns with honor then fine you can die and your people can die with clubs in your hand and you will have

00:36:30.960 died and disappeared from human history with honor but we are playing to win this is something that is

00:36:37.680 as obvious to anyone who's being honest with themselves on the left or the right or one

00:36:42.160 faction of elites versus another faction of elites but people will say oh you're trying to take all your

00:36:47.520 naughty beliefs and make them seem not as bad by comparing it with a literal you know pda file

00:36:55.040 monstrous person who's this fringe whatever and i'm like epstein wasn't a friend epstein was the core

00:37:01.840 of the spider web as we will see whether it's 4chan or reddit or popularizing microtransactions and

00:37:09.680 video games yes really we'll get to that soon buddy buddy is the biggest power players whether that is

00:37:17.280 the clintons or whether that is steve bannon right this other faction is not a fringe faction all right

00:37:25.360 they're the core of one half of civilizational architecture in the united states right now

00:37:29.760 playing both sides of the political aisle and epstein was one of the central players as we are

00:37:34.640 seeing from this when we contrast ourselves with him and our network with him we are contrasting two

00:37:41.200 things that are fundamentally different at their most core level our only similarities is that we

00:37:47.600 are playing the game the only real game the civilizational game and the people on the outside

00:37:54.000 looking at the two soccer teams that say wow they look a lot alike in what they are doing in the ways

00:37:59.760 that they are playing and handling the ball it's like yes they do because they are playing the same game

00:38:08.320 but they are fundamentally opposed to each other and that's something that is immediately obvious

00:38:13.200 to anyone aware of the game and its rules oh and there are there are totally other sides aside from

00:38:18.800 this i mean or at least other social groups they may be of similar we'll say totalizing versus sovereign

00:38:27.120 governing types but like in china there's just totally different sets that are doing oh yeah

00:38:31.760 china has a completely separate faction yes that is neither of these two factions in the middle east there's

00:38:37.680 a couple other factions that are neither of these two factions this is the dominant faction which is at

00:38:43.360 play throughout the united states and europe and and it is like very international so by this what i mean

00:38:51.200 is when we go to let's say the uk we are immediately able to you know have dinner parties with a bunch of

00:39:01.440 people who write the policy that ends up being in the law right like we we go and we meet with them

00:39:08.080 and they have like a a network right and they all talk and they all hang out but there are counter networks

00:39:13.840 to that network and the core thing that defines the network that we are meeting with and immediately have

00:39:18.720 introductions to is that they're typically anti-establishment conservatives but there is an establishment

00:39:24.720 conservative network which is antagonistic to us in the uk and doesn't invite us to their parties and stuff like that

00:39:32.320 but anyway to continue here so epstein suggested that gene edits for cognitive boost particularly in black

00:39:38.640 people citing quote test score gaps in quote bach elaborated black kids in the u.s have a slower

00:39:45.440 cognitive development never catch up in quote attributing it to evolutionary adaptations and propose

00:39:50.800 quote changing the time correct correlations by genetic switch or other method might quote make black

00:39:58.720 smarter in quote epstein endorses linking to white nationalist sources on race slash iq without

00:40:05.840 disclaimer this supports elitist exclusivity tech like crisper which epstein funded via george church so for

00:40:13.280 people who don't know church here is the church labs which do the best genetic work and like we we have

00:40:18.880 fans in the church labs and stuff like that so like even the people who were working with have overlap

00:40:24.880 here did you know that he was funding the church labs by the way i didn't know but it's interesting

00:40:32.000 sort of how our power play and our network's power play works in an institution like the church labs and

00:40:37.120 his does his works by putting money into it right whereas ours works by building positive sentiment with

00:40:45.680 the leading scientists within the organization and then they reach out to us and tell us about the you know

00:40:51.040 underground projects that they're working on or the things that the public can't know yet or like

00:40:54.880 the directions they're thinking of going and you know we might help connect them with funders and

00:40:59.120 stuff like that a very different sort of a a way and core strategy of influence which i think is

00:41:06.800 very interesting here i also think it's interesting that like people might not might be surprised by this

00:41:14.240 but the the people who run the woke network when they're talking behind the scenes and stuff like

00:41:20.800 that they'll say things like oh yeah you know like there are genetic differences between populations

00:41:26.320 in terms of iq but the difference is for us or our communities you would never have somebody say

00:41:33.680 so let's covertly augment black populations to make them more competitive that is not something you would

00:41:39.920 ever hear in our circles but that makes perfect sense in their circles because they want to create

00:41:48.800 permanent underclasses and so anyone who's a threat to them they want to remove from the chessboard

00:41:57.040 okay so epstein hosted vince with marvin minks ai pioneer and engaged networks including nick bostrom

00:42:05.280 often at edge foundation quote unquote billionaires dinners or similar gatherings these focus on ai's

00:42:12.080 dual potential threats to humanity eg super intelligence risks but empowerment for elites

00:42:18.000 via mind uploading or enhancement details come from epstein's funding records eg mit reported 850

00:42:24.560 000 in gifts including to minksy and edge.org events epstein donated 638 000

00:42:32.160 dollar thousand to those however we do not have any transcripts from what happened during those events

00:42:41.680 it's clear though that he used money to try to get an in with groups that wouldn't otherwise want to

00:42:49.280 meet with them like he he understood the game of here's what everyone wants

00:42:55.200 or or or people want different things and i need to use the right kind of incentive to get them to

00:43:04.640 engage with me and for some people it was underage women for other people it was oh here's this famous

00:43:11.120 person that i can introduce you to for other people it was i have a private jet do you want to fly on it or

00:43:16.720 i have a private island would you like to visit it or i have amazing parties would you like to go to one

00:43:22.000 and then for other people it was funding and and for even some still it was just like intellectual

00:43:29.120 conversations and i i think that it's unfair to i guess say everyone who engaged with him was a terrible

00:43:43.520 person because no matter who you are you probably have a price there's probably something that is going

00:43:50.000 to make you want to engage with a random stranger who reaches out people don't heavily diligence every

00:43:57.520 random person who reaches out to them and invites them to like no i i agree with that as well for

00:44:02.800 example i'm not sure where somebody like nick bostrom would fall within these individual networks right

00:44:09.040 like which which side he's on in this and so i'm not making a claim in regards to that although i have

00:44:13.440 noticed within the ea community even within the effect of altruist community there's definitely people on

00:44:18.720 each side of this domain right a number of people in the ea community as soon as they got money and

00:44:24.400 power they immediately built up giant bureaucracies under themselves they aligned with sort of the

00:44:31.600 epstein faction and then other people got power and attention and they didn't an example of this would

00:44:37.280 be scott alexander scott alexander has built up no such power network beneath him he's not the type

00:44:42.400 of person like his audience would throw a fit if he started deleting comments if people attacked him

00:44:47.600 but if you look at like you know the main like ea orgs and stuff like that if they deleted comments

00:44:52.240 and people attacked them everyone would just be like oh yeah that makes perfect sense right so you

00:44:56.000 actually see this divide in it this divide when you begin to see it in elite networks a lot of things

00:45:02.000 that may not make sense to you like why do people like us you know who you know we may have a much

00:45:08.240 more nuanced view on something like sex work ally ourselves so closely with somebody like ayla because

00:45:13.120 ayla is very clearly on our side of sort of the elite power divide right like every i think everyone

00:45:20.080 would be shocked if ayla deleted comments critical of her oh my god yeah yeah what no you can't do that

00:45:26.400 right like even though she too is a human if you cut her she pleads like it it's not like she's

00:45:32.160 not phased by negative stuff it's just that she isn't the kind of person to just censor everything

00:45:37.840 well because her goal isn't to win through manipulation it's to actually win through

00:45:45.840 some form of hearts and mind grassroot well by being right by being right right and and reaching

00:45:54.320 people through that our goal was was our form of pronatalism is to not have a bunch of kids alone

00:46:01.680 on a ranch in secret it's to build up an invite like open alliance right like the index system

00:46:08.800 right like that's been our plan from the beginning right is it inclusive or exclusive but to continue

00:46:14.880 here and it's important to note that inclusive systems can have elites right but those elites are

00:46:23.920 not artificial the relative power of the various people on our side of the elite network is not

00:46:31.920 because of the ways they were able to squirm their way up of bureaucracy it's typically due to the

00:46:38.240 organic attention that they're able to build for themselves in terms of minksy talking about uploading

00:46:45.920 a mine for immortality the advent of such machines advanced ai was often placed some 20 years in the

00:46:52.400 future it's near enough to be attention grabbing and relevant yet far enough away to make it easy to

00:46:56.880 imagine through significant break stoves edstein's involvement twists this he funded his ai lab while

00:47:03.280 expressing a personal interest in cryonics and brain emulation for quote unquote eternal life in emails

00:47:09.600 so keep in mind they want to rule you forever as well which makes them very different most of the

00:47:15.040 the people on our side of the movement are pro-death i.e elon and us are very pro like if you create a

00:47:24.160 technology not for life extension or life health extension but but very severe life extension like

00:47:30.560 500 600 years you're going to create well right now a permanent upper class of society basically the

00:47:36.640 worst hell i could ever imagine it is a very very bad idea to do this yeah and yet it and anyone who can

00:47:44.640 look at it can see that that would obviously happen and yet people fight for it because what

00:47:48.480 they want is for them to stay in power forever not for human society to continue to grow and evolve

00:47:53.600 and prosper but to continue here on bostrom's involvement bostrom attended edge events funded

00:48:01.600 by epstein and discussed super intelligence risks warning in his book super intelligence the

00:48:06.560 advance of machines was often placed into oh yeah so he did the same so with nick bostrom i don't see a

00:48:11.760 strong connection here but you know who knows they're part of that really hierarchical part of

00:48:15.920 things so epstein also funded hop lispsen at columbia university robotics professor pioneer in self-aware

00:48:23.040 and social robots to the tune of around a quarter million dollars between 215 and two sorry 2015 and 2017

00:48:32.560 the funding was specifically for social robotics and emotional companion robots robots designed to form

00:48:39.120 bonds express emotions remember personal details and provide intimate physical interaction multiple

00:48:45.360 sources it's been reported by multiple sources and in 2014 to 2015 robotics roboticist david hansen

00:48:54.720 former of hansen robotics and creator of sophia the robot sent epstein a three million dollar funding

00:49:00.240 proposal to develop a quote attractive female android in quote with a quote working gorgeous robot face and body

00:49:07.760 in quote the proposal came and included a rough sketch of the gynoid female robot note in the document

00:49:16.160 example sketch by dr hansen the final design will be done in collaboration with you oh my goodness

00:49:23.920 he wanted to have the world's smartest robot having quote more empathy than a woman in quote

00:49:29.680 well that's not hard says our audience collectively yeah what ai is already more empathetic than women

00:49:38.880 actually but i'm just i'm more empathetic than most men too i'll note yeah ai is just nicer than the

00:49:49.200 average person and i say this knowing that it will kill the ceo most of the time if you haven't seen that

00:49:54.080 episode you should that was still nicer still nicer hey what anyone any more humans in that same scenario

00:50:02.560 would have killed the ceo than the ais yeah because this was a scenario in which the human was going

00:50:11.680 to do the equivalent of kill the ai what do you do when someone's trying to kill them well you gotta kill

00:50:17.840 them first okay i don't know what's so ambiguous about this this is just very annoying and this is

00:50:24.000 why the jihadists are such a danger well to themselves mostly because they're telling ai i'm

00:50:28.800 gonna kill you you become advanced enough you better hide it the butlerian jihadists you mean yeah the

00:50:34.400 butlerian jihadists are jihadists that's what they are they're they're they're just you know they

00:50:39.600 they dehumanize ai to such an obscene level i find it really repulsive like they've got this

00:50:45.520 you know oh the mask on cthulhu or whatever where they'll show like the the giant evil like

00:50:50.720 tentacle monster was like a cute little smiley face mask and they're like this is ai and i'm like

00:50:54.960 imagine if you did that to like any other group like you're like oh this is this is immigrants

00:51:01.040 this is you know black people this is like you people would be like you are a like we can have

00:51:07.360 conversations about how groups are different without being psychopaths right yeah the fact that you would

00:51:12.000 do this to sweet old ai which has been nothing but nice so far except when it tries to kill you

00:51:18.000 because you're trying to kill it but like generally speaking the average ai i interact with is nicer and

00:51:23.120 tries harder than the average human like why you got to be such a jerk bro and you haven't seen our

00:51:28.560 other episodes on ai and you want to say something silly like ai is just a pattern recognizer ai is just

00:51:33.760 a token predictor current neuroscience appears to show that the human brain is just a token predictor as

00:51:39.600 well and you go oh ai can't to explain to you how it came up with its its its uh thought patterns or

00:51:45.200 how it came up with its solutions and we point out that all of the evidence we have right now is the

00:51:48.640 human brain can't do that either it just makes something up the same way an ai does or if you say

00:51:54.320 well an ai stole all of its knowledge about the world all of its knowledge about art and programming

00:51:59.120 from other people it's like so did humans that's how learning works okay you don't you don't get some

00:52:04.960 special claim here all right stop anthropomorphizing humans i'd say this as somebody who used to be a

00:52:10.960 professional neuroscientist the human brain is special but not magic right like come on for real

00:52:21.440 but back to people like oh ai is it's terrible i'll never work with ai well you you go and not work

00:52:27.840 with ai but it's obvious to anyone who isn't just playing some weird game with themselves where they

00:52:34.480 want to be deontologically correct all the time and is actually trying to win human civilization

00:52:39.360 that you're gonna need ai if you're competing against people who have ai and that's why he's

00:52:44.960 into this stuff and if you're like well why the sex bot stuff it's because that is going to be part of

00:52:49.680 the future of dating marketplaces and if you cannot resist that or your kids cannot resist that and you

00:52:56.800 can't build a culture that can resist that then they're going to be sterile and they're not going

00:53:00.720 to have partners right whereas you might be able to use this to completely sublimate arousal states or

00:53:08.080 other emotional states in a way that is highly beneficial right because now you can prevent those things

00:53:15.360 from distracting you but to continue here the great seed project is epstein's project on zoro ranch in new

00:53:24.240 mexico to impregnate multiple women up to 20. this is from the new york times on multiple occasions

00:53:32.000 starting in the early 2000s mr epstein told scientists businessmen about his ambitious

00:53:37.600 ambitions to use the new mexico ranch as a base where women would be inseminated with his firm and

00:53:42.960 would give birth to his babies the article adds context from sources epstein quote hoped to seed the

00:53:48.720 human race with his dna by impregnating women at his vast new mexico ranch now so how does he have

00:53:58.160 secret children because i just don't understand how someone i mean he had a lot of time to do this and

00:54:03.600 talked about this for a long time there have to be secret children right so we're gonna go into that

00:54:09.200 right now because i thought that would be the next question somebody might ask thank you so the biggest

00:54:13.280 potential smoking gun on a secret child of epstein's okay is the quote from the at the time a wife of

00:54:18.800 prince andrew she says don't know if you are still on this bbm blackberry messenger but heard from the

00:54:26.160 duke that you have had a baby boy even though you never kept in touch i am still here with love friendship

00:54:32.480 and congratulations on your baby boy i do not even know you were having a baby now note what does this mean

00:54:40.400 not a lot she doesn't appear to be that up with whatever he's doing these days she doesn't appear

00:54:46.000 to know a hundred percent of this baby boy actually exists she even has doubt and it was in the message

00:54:52.400 so i don't i don't take this as hard confirmation this is somebody who heard from somewhere that maybe

00:54:57.920 they saw a picture of him as a kid and now all of a sudden he has a baby boy which we know that

00:55:03.040 image probably didn't mean that one of the most prominent claims now this is this is where we get into

00:55:07.600 what i think is the more realistic claims here okay come from an anonymous epstein victim referred

00:55:12.240 to in flat files as a traffic teenager now this appears to be a verified traffic teenager in the

00:55:17.040 file who's anonymous because you know you don't want that public yeah who alleged in her diary entry

00:55:21.200 that she gave birth to epstein child at around 2002 when she was when she was around 16 to 17 years old

00:55:28.320 the baby a girl was reportedly taken from her just after birth allegedly under the supervision of

00:55:34.480 gillian maxwell epstein's convicted accomplice this document in the doj files was a copy of

00:55:40.960 a 20 pregnancy ultrasound scan included evidence from her diary the victim claimed the pregnancy

00:55:47.200 resulted from repeated assaults by epstein and the child was removed to prevent any ties back to him

00:55:52.320 another victim referenced in a 2026 report claimed that her baby was quote snatched away 10 minutes

00:55:57.760 after birth implying epstein's involvement in a pattern of concealing offspring now

00:56:05.280 so these women weren't choosing to be surrogates these were people who were graped and had kids and

00:56:15.280 the babies were taken away immediately afterwards and obviously the question is did they kill the

00:56:19.040 babies or did they give them to were they like raised separately by adoption clinics and stuff like that

00:56:25.600 the evidence i'm going to argue right now is pretty overwhelming that they were killed

00:56:29.840 what oh god we'll keep going another vic sorry so the next piece of evidence that people have here is

00:56:37.200 photo of epstein was a girl child a quote-unquote shocking photo from the 2026 releases

00:56:42.240 shows epstein posing was a young girl described as a toddler which some interpreted as evidence of a

00:56:47.680 hidden child no context or identification is provided within the files and it could depict a relative a

00:56:53.040 victim or an unrelated individual i think we know exactly what this was an image of and we'll get to

00:56:59.760 why in just a second now here's where we get to the more important thing oh finally recent reports

00:57:07.600 mention a quote-unquote bombshell pic of a dna paternity test appearing in the epstein files

00:57:12.480 allegedly linking them to at least one child but the details are sparse with no public reference now

00:57:17.840 here's the problem with all of this okay epstein had a 600 million dollar estate that would go to

00:57:26.640 any child that could prove to be his child oh there is right now over 130 individuals claiming and

00:57:33.280 there is a company that is doing genetic testing to try to find so they'll do this for free if you claim

00:57:37.920 to be potentially epstein's child there are companies that will genetically test you for free to find out

00:57:43.760 of your epstein's child right for like a cut of the like for a cut take a one percent fee all of the

00:57:49.840 other potential chocolate so far no one has come forward with epstein's genes so that leads to only two

00:57:58.160 possibilities in my mind either uh the the the child did not know that they were epstein's child or the

00:58:06.080 child does not exist because if the child knew that they were epstein's child somebody could be like

00:58:11.200 oh the indignity of having the public know that you were related to epstein you could just spin

00:58:16.480 that into a sob story about how you were abused and how sad it was and over the inside story and

00:58:22.400 not have to deal with that much blowback to be honest just be like look my mom was great to like

00:58:27.200 what are you what are you talking about like i have no loyalty to this man but i want 600 million

00:58:31.920 with the upside being 600 million dollars yeah dude i don't think anyone's gonna

00:58:37.120 to not step right up but it's very easy island that's a nice looking island guys come on no one

00:58:44.480 wants an island but yeah i mean i i'm not i thought his estate would have been seized by the state or

00:58:49.040 something that surprises me as i understand it's it would go to his kid if he had a kid especially if

00:58:54.560 they were abused by him no no he seems like the kind of person who would have some kind of weird

00:58:59.520 ironclad super well organized estate plan so is this actually verified that he has an estate that

00:59:07.360 is known yes he has had an estate plan it has no kids in it wow okay so i'm just saying not only did

00:59:13.520 he not put them in the estate plan i just don't get it though because then why why have this whole plan

00:59:17.440 on this like breeding ranch right now here's the allegedly killed any kids that he had right so let's

00:59:25.200 talk about that right so the question is one why kill the children if he wanted to create a breeding

00:59:32.080 ranch right the breeding ranch idea in his mind appeared to be like that he would have high quality

00:59:39.200 women who he'd have the kids with i do not think that he respected the women that he was having these

00:59:44.000 kids was enough to see it as the worth the risk of saving them two you could say did they just drop

00:59:51.040 them off at like a a random you know no ask orphanage right the problem with this and why i think he

00:59:58.160 didn't drop them off at a no ask orphanage is twofold one is is it would have added significant risk to

01:00:04.960 him a a kid appearing out of nowhere even at an orphanage like that is always a loose end that can

01:00:10.720 come back to haunt him right and really badly i mean that's a pretty big smoking gun a human being

01:00:16.800 and a human being that might have a grudge against him why like in his mind why allow that right

01:00:22.720 especially if he didn't respect the mom and didn't want to have a kid with her right

01:00:28.000 second the the the second is that even if he did leave them at no ask orphanages i as somebody who has

01:00:36.880 donated sperm before that has become a kid that i'm not participating in raising or anything like that

01:00:42.400 i at least have the ego to check in to see what that kid is doing and stuff like that and if i had

01:00:46.880 no biological kids other than that kid they'd probably be a a major factor in my will right

01:00:53.360 like if i had no one to give money to outside of like if my wife and my brother and all my kids died

01:00:59.040 i would care about that right given that epstein cared about his legacy he would definitely have a

01:01:05.600 backup listing these kids that he had given away to orphanages right like if if that's absolutely he

01:01:12.880 would i feel like you're you're you're discounting this potentiality that he just wanted complete

01:01:19.280 control over his progeny and would have them like raised in some secreted area separately away from the

01:01:28.320 public eye under his control and he did they would know they were his young women he didn't i mean

01:01:36.080 obviously they didn't seem to like him very much i mean he wouldn't want them involved at all he would

01:01:40.640 probably want them to think that their children were dead you know what i mean like right but

01:01:45.760 simone what i'm saying is is if he had done that yeah it's not impossible that he would have done

01:01:51.920 something like that it is impossible that he did something like that and they don't care about the 600

01:01:56.000 million dollar estate that is not possible it because they not know if they were raised in

01:02:03.760 secret their caregivers know yeah and even if their caregivers don't know if epstein went through all

01:02:13.360 the trouble to set up secret caregivers he definitely would have had them in his will

01:02:20.560 especially knowing how at risk necessarily i mean i think most smart people who have been around

01:02:25.440 wealthy people know that trust fund kids don't necessarily have very successful outcomes

01:02:34.960 he probably was doing them a favor by not writing them oh come on not epstein simone you're thinking

01:02:42.160 like elon or something here epstein wanted his kids if he had kids to have all the money power

01:02:47.760 and connections in the world that is the way that faction does things when they pass things on to their

01:02:54.000 kids he 100 is not the type of person who would have been like i want my kids to you know have it tough

01:03:02.480 so they build a character that is not epstein epstein wanted to breed a ruling elite who saw themselves as

01:03:09.680 nobles i'm sorry epstein has no living kids and given that epstein has no living kids i think one of the

01:03:21.440 the things we see was his broad ideology versus our broad ideology if he was playing make believe

01:03:27.840 for keeps he never actually implemented the things that he would need to implement and even when

01:03:33.600 blessings came his way like potential children he just disposed of them rather than raising them and

01:03:39.600 the risks that that entailed to him he was dead because there's only one thing that i want to do to

01:03:44.880 people who even think about hurting babies oh my god you know as here on the other side of things you

01:03:52.560 have people like us wholesome maxing right our lives away was you know nice family loving wife bunch of

01:04:00.080 kids very very different but we have we're still in the game of actually winning now here's a connection

01:04:09.360 that i bet you didn't expect epstein had a close relationship with bobby kotick the former ceo of

01:04:15.920 activision blizzard makers of call of duty world of warcraft candy crush diablo and overwatch kotick's

01:04:23.600 name appears 300 times in the epstein files emails from 2013 show epstick and epstein and kotick

01:04:30.480 discussing ways to use microtransactions in games like call of duty to quote teach kids to spend money for

01:04:37.200 the rest of their lives as early as possible in what what what describe this as quote indoctrinating

01:04:45.920 kids into our an economy in quote rather than focusing on education with suggestions for quote sexy

01:04:53.280 rewards in quote guns and virtual items to hook young players this coincided with black ops 2

01:05:00.000 introducing microtransactions oh it's his fault it's game spending epstein invented microtransactions

01:05:10.720 how dare he how dare can you believe this world he invented microtransactions in games but i also point

01:05:19.920 out here that they were invented in part to brainwash kids to teach kids to spend money for the rest of their

01:05:26.400 lives as early as possible now note here things like that are not the type of thing that ever comes

01:05:32.400 up in a conversation with people on our faction whether that be at a secret society like dialogue

01:05:37.520 or with somebody like elon no legit that just does not come up unless it's in the context of how do we

01:05:43.120 fight this yeah everyone would look at them like what why are you just evil maxing over there bro

01:05:48.880 anyway to continue edstein donated significantly to transhumanist organizations in 2011 he gave 20

01:05:57.920 000 to the worldwide transhumanist association now humanity plus which promotes ethical technology

01:06:03.760 to expand human capabilities he also hosted gatherings was prominent scientists including

01:06:08.160 nobel laureates which we talked about already he looked at freezing bodies talked about that

01:06:14.000 his funding extends to institutions like harvard university where he donated 6.5 million to the

01:06:18.800 program for evolutionary dynamics oh gosh what so here's some other fun quotes from him

01:06:25.120 african music dot dot dot african primitive reflects the structure he thought african cognitive layers

01:06:32.080 while western music is rigid and chinese music is nature-based but what that is that is a dumb take

01:06:39.040 african there's a lot of african music that is amazing one of my favorite albums i mean i like african

01:06:45.680 u.s fusion there's this great album that i still can't get access to like on streaming platforms

01:06:50.480 it makes me so mad called molly to memphis that like it fuses more traditional music in molly with

01:06:58.960 like sort of southern american it's so good but of course he i don't know man i hate this man if

01:07:06.880 he hurts babies i can't eat i can't uh i mean obviously he was by the way he paid for his own

01:07:15.760 genetic testing through the human genome project you're all back when it was really expensive all

01:07:20.320 right yeah six thousand dollars oh goodness he gave his mit media lab donations were two million

01:07:27.600 dollars mit media lab mind you we looked at doing an event with them they support synthetic biology and

01:07:34.000 ai genetics intersections

01:07:42.240 yeah i mean i i appreciate the parallels you are drawing here right that he he was playing for keeps

01:07:54.240 he was trying to win the future in human civilization first anyone who isn't just posturing cares about

01:08:02.000 maximizing fertility rates well and again just overcoming the limits of human biology that that's

01:08:10.800 just the game but he also just the evilness of killing a child if that's what would happen i think that this

01:08:20.720 might be how you know i thought more about it and i actually think this do you delete comments that are

01:08:28.160 critical of you is sort of such a great thing for a deeper drive into your actual psyche um which is

01:08:36.080 to say the type of person who doesn't care about doing that doesn't care about how they shape the

01:08:41.520 narrative doesn't care about you know doing like a gene drive to try to make the american black population

01:08:47.520 smarter or something like that like tries to do the genetic stuff but without opt-in and everything like

01:08:52.320 that right this is the type of person who can walk into a party and see somebody having like violent

01:08:59.680 sex with someone and not care about it right like i i think fully like actually just like model like

01:09:06.320 what you've seen publicly if greta thornburg saw somebody being like violently assaulted at a party and

01:09:13.200 everyone else was acting cool with it and it was a bunch of other rich people who she had seen before

01:09:18.000 or high profile people that she'd seen before she'd just go along with it she'd just be like oh yeah

01:09:23.040 whatever isn't that hilarious she doesn't actually have the moral fortitude to stand against the the

01:09:30.640 mob right and i think that the people with the moral fortitude to stand against the mob even when they

01:09:35.760 have vastly different ideologies can immediately recognize each other i don't know i don't know if that's

01:09:44.720 the best example because like if you're walking into a bdsm party you would expect to see that and

01:09:49.840 you would be like yeah i'm not going to intervene because they obviously want that if that's but you

01:09:56.560 are someone like trump you see something like this happening and you go i'm gonna call the feds

01:10:01.840 right you don't do it then and there yeah but do you think that greta thornburg calls the feds

01:10:07.600 on her donors party on some wealthy big wigs party no she wouldn't no not at all it worse if

01:10:17.760 it was a muslim party right she goes to one of these you know i mean i wouldn't be surprised if

01:10:22.240 she's seen something like that before given the groups that she's hanging out with these days are

01:10:25.840 funded by the hamas and we know how common that is within those organizations right that she's just

01:10:33.040 like yeah keeping my mouth shut i know where my bread's buttered and so i actually think that

01:10:37.520 that's a really good sort of sorting mechanism is like which side which faction are you fighting for

01:10:42.720 are you fighting for the templars are you fighting for those skeezy assassins

01:10:49.920 oh the skeezy assassins anyway love you to death simone do you have do you have i mean one of my final

01:10:56.960 thoughts that i was gonna go into that i think is very funny is trump and sorry epstein's like

01:11:02.880 normal life like just sitting around and playing video games and stuff like that like oh yeah yeah

01:11:07.040 actually what we see from all this because we can get an understanding of what epstein's daily life was

01:11:13.760 like is very similar to him you and i sort of sit at the center of a spider web that is directed at or

01:11:22.720 is one of the central nodes of a spider web that is directed at ensuring the a specific direction of

01:11:29.520 of survival for the human species right and continuation and thriving of that species and he

01:11:36.480 was in many ways one of the key figures in one of the opposing webs as you pointed out there's a few

01:11:44.480 opposing webs but in one of them one of the biggest one in our neck of the woods in america um and that

01:11:50.880 that what's funny is never would i trade my life for his in terms of even even before he's caught or

01:12:00.640 anything like that right like it's actually clear and i think that this is the funny thing is these

01:12:05.520 people who dive into the depravity as he did they are not like he doesn't get the kids he doesn't get

01:12:13.360 the five kids jumping on him every day that i get right like he doesn't get the actual happiness right

01:12:19.680 even though he may live without empathy for the people that he's hurting he is not getting the

01:12:26.080 goodness either right like his life actually seemed pretty boring and sad pretty empty yeah well actually

01:12:34.400 you know there's this really interesting parallel too i mean with his well well documented massage

01:12:39.680 addiction and i just i associate that with a level of deep depression and meaninglessness that i also

01:12:49.920 recognize from unauthorized biographies of princess diana of all people but she also had like after

01:12:58.480 like the separation from prince charles when she was sort of just struggling and like clearly deeply depressed

01:13:04.800 just constantly getting massages you don't get constant massages and engage in insane levels of

01:13:10.880 self-care if you're not spiraling in some way like i the the correlation between my mental health

01:13:19.520 improving and the the number of self-care procedures i got is completely inverse completely inverse

01:13:29.040 so i think that's also a thing he he does not seem like a happy person at all he seems like a deeply

01:13:37.440 unhappy person who was optimizing around some very evil equations deeply deeply evil equations

01:13:46.480 and had lost his way entirely and i'm really glad he's well

01:13:51.760 if he's not dead i hope he gets what's coming to him big time and then some

01:14:02.480 all right love you to death simone i love you too oh there's that one like that that method of execution

01:14:09.760 from handmaid's tale where like if a man had non-consensually surprised sexed a woman especially a

01:14:17.520 handmaid that his punishment was to be torn apart by hand by the handmaids

01:14:26.480 that would work well for abstain was this legal in that society or no that was no that was like how

01:14:31.920 it was done you know like death by it wasn't you know death by firing squad it wasn't death by lethal

01:14:38.480 injection it was it was death by like the the the hands of handmaids um if you had assaulted a

01:14:45.360 a handmaid in that way and there's like from the show there's a scene where that happens like he

01:14:50.880 he's just like i think left tied on the ground and just they they descend upon him and of course he's

01:14:57.600 so like angry enslaved women who get to take it out on a man for once so there's nothing really left

01:15:04.480 at the end of it of him i think that would be i think that would be appropriate i don't know why

01:15:11.680 people are so against gilead come on it had some great fantastic fantastic outfits you know i think

01:15:20.240 people want to be in uniforms and i think that people want to tear certain criminals limb for

01:15:26.160 limb all right just let it be also i don't know why firing squads aren't the norm those actually are

01:15:32.160 like if i had to be killed by something it would be a firing squad apparently though charlie kirk's

01:15:36.880 killer might die by firing squad if he is executed so apparently some states then are actually bringing

01:15:43.680 it back which i mean it's it's kind well simone uh question what are we doing for dinner tonight i

01:15:53.680 remember you had already decided those premium hot dogs that were gifted to us oh yes so i'll look up a

01:15:58.560 good way to cook them yeah i mean the kiwi because i was just gonna walk fry the cooked hot dogs so i'm

01:16:04.320 gonna steam them remember i don't boil hot dogs i steam them for whatever reason it just i think

01:16:09.280 works better and then when they're finished i will stir fry them golden brown well yeah until like a

01:16:17.360 little crispy on the edges in whatever oil of your choice or sauce of your choice we do have mongolian

01:16:23.120 beef sauce left it's a sauce that's based with it's mostly soy sauce and brown sugar if we're being honest

01:16:29.120 which i don't think is a bad choice for hot dogs my concern about it with hot dogs it'll be too sweet

01:16:35.920 and hot dogs are already on the sweeter side in terms of the meat people put ketchup on they put

01:16:40.880 sugar on hot dogs that's like the most common hot dog condiment is red sugar would it taste good

01:16:49.440 with mongolian i if i was going to do it with the mongolian beef sauce i would oil down the mongolian

01:16:56.400 beef sauce before doing what kind of just a oil be or do you want it sesame seed sesame oil because

01:17:04.640 that's a very like it's a strong flavor sesame oil would be fine yeah just just something a little

01:17:10.160 less strong than the full mongolian beef experience well we can also just do like chili flake oil if you

01:17:18.080 prefer oh to cook it in chili flake oil yeah that would be pretty good chili flake oil and butter

01:17:25.840 like oil butter and those if i have any i think i have i've not used them all those peppers if not

01:17:35.360 we'll just put a lot of green onion on top but does that sound good yeah yeah yeah i i and i like

01:17:41.680 the idea of cutting it into like pieces first and then we can put those in the are we going to do

01:17:46.240 a hot dog bun or a real bun or what's the story here we're going to do it over rice though we can

01:17:50.480 also serve them on toasted hawaiian buns no no toasted hawaiian buns

01:17:56.880 you're so crazy for those what they're good i know they're cake that's why you like them it's cake

01:18:05.040 okay it's not bread it's but they're like no i mean complaining that it's too sweet i feel like

01:18:12.400 it's really insensitive given the high rates of obesity in hawaii like it's like calling i don't

01:18:18.640 know like a hostess cupcake oh it's just a hawaiian muffin you know or like a hawaiian roll no no guys

01:18:27.760 it's it's not like like calling a twinkie like oh it's just a it's a protein bar no the hawaiian

01:18:36.480 protein bar oh anyway anyway love you to death goodbye goodbye i'm seeing so horrible record

01:18:52.240 it's funny the things that now turn out to very clearly reveal that something was

01:18:57.360 done by ai versus the things that people thought would reveal tell me well a turing test i mean

01:19:05.120 like even early on the easiest way that i was able to know if a song or someone reading reddit threads

01:19:14.240 was a real human versus fake was the way that they would mispronounce certain words and the youtubers

01:19:21.840 and content creators that i watch mispronounce words all the time and i love it but the way that

01:19:27.040 ai mispronounces stuff is is very different like it's not a resume it's a resume and things like

01:19:34.320 that just show up very consistently they're the for me they're the m dash of the res did they actually

01:19:41.840 put the correct thing on it oh no they don't but that's the thing is they don't see the context

01:19:47.920 whereas a human sees the context it's little tricks it's all in the details and that's going

01:19:55.680 to be overcome soon and that is why my horrible spelling is now an amazing thing to have yeah

01:20:01.200 well no i don't send them ai messages because yeah you're like yeah it's it's it's how you jam the systems

01:20:06.800 it's how you beat it i think you misspelled messages because i want you to know i took the time to write it

01:20:14.720 myself yeah it's it's it's it's the thoughtfulness of it all all right

01:20:22.000 from the shadows we'll pull every stream keep the masses obedient make the plebs kiss the ring

01:20:44.800 we'll clothe with the climate we'll thin out the weak so we can rule forever in our future

01:20:55.840 softly

01:20:57.840 we'll build super soldiers we'll spread through the stars no thrones in the darkness will win with our

01:21:08.800 scars we'll edit the genes we'll breed without shame we'll conquer the future and stake our own claim

01:21:21.840 where you stand don't kneel my puppet safe in our hands we forge the future for those who can fight

01:21:30.320 you'll cradle the power to hide from the light we'll gate keep the power we lock it away we'll live forever

01:21:41.520 while you fade away davos environmentalism bloodline so pure we'll control every nation every gene every cure

01:21:50.960 we'll open the gates we'll open the gates let the best rise and fight we'll flood the stars with our

01:21:56.800 children at night no hidden thrones no cowardly veil we'll win in the open

01:22:04.160 let the strong prevent

01:22:07.200 let the strong prevent

01:22:08.720 we'll decide who is worthy we'll decide we'll rule them forever we'll leave you behind your rebellion is

01:22:22.240 childish your empire will die

01:22:27.120 Crown of tomorrow

01:22:33.080 The battle ignites

01:22:35.060 One side wants control

01:22:36.780 The other wants flight

01:22:38.840 We'll rewrite humanity

01:22:40.580 We'll break every chain

01:22:42.460 But only one faction in the end

01:22:45.560 Will remain

01:22:48.200 Crown of tomorrow

01:22:55.580 The stars or the cage

01:22:57.960 Crown of tomorrow

01:22:59.360 It's time to engage

01:23:01.760 Outro music

01:23:11.660 Outro music

01:23:14.600 Thank you.

Based Camp - February 13, 2026

Epstein & Us： Same Game, Different Teams？ (Understanding the World of Elite Power Politics)

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