Based Camp - Genesis’ “Random” Numbers Map Directly to 10,000 Years (Unique Discovery)

00:00:00.000 this is not like normal bible math this isn't like i take numbers from the bible and i assume

00:00:05.680 they're supposed to be something totally different or i i move them around and i add a number here

00:00:11.600 and i add a number here we are working with what the bible appears to be talking about early human

00:00:17.680 civilization and just copying and pasting the numbers to get an idea of just how insane this

00:00:24.080 mass is, the Huffle-Uniad transition is bracketed between 5,500 BC and 5,400 BC. So the boundary is

00:00:33.440 only known to half a century. The computed flood would have happened if you use these numbers

00:00:38.440 at 5,444 BC, which isn't just inside of this bracket. It lands six years from the bracket's

00:00:47.860 midpoint, which is astonishing when you're looking at tens of thousands of years of human history.

00:00:52.920 like the size of this map if you're going to compare it to other maps of the time would have

00:00:59.840 to be a combination of the phoenicians trading map and the assyrians conquest map right like

00:01:07.260 the two largest maps anyone would have known during that period if you compare it with the

00:01:12.800 ancient greek map it just becomes laughable would you like to know more hello simone this is a

00:01:20.120 crazy day for me because i decided to just sort of be like well if the bible's true because i was

00:01:26.840 reading it i was like it's probably not gonna have at the very beginning a bunch of stuff that just

00:01:32.860 doesn't matter because you near the beginning of of genesis there's a few lists of names and ages

00:01:41.280 and there's they don't like i think a lot of people when they're reading them generally just

00:01:47.400 skip over them they're like okay whatever well it's very similar to the iliad and iniad where

00:01:52.020 you're like come on like i don't need the whole lineage of this one soldier in the war over trojan

00:01:59.380 okay yeah so so so you you hit that and what this unfortunately does at least after i went

00:02:10.280 into it and i started trying to match these lists to things is it means you completely

00:02:16.540 misread genesis you modern reader get to it you read the the first part which is important

00:02:23.500 and it's so dense it's like whoa that was like the world was created whoa the garden of being

00:02:28.640 just came and left like it goes so fast there's no murder thing that's interesting then list and

00:02:33.420 it's like uh boring tuning out for the list big interesting flood narrative and i literally the

00:02:39.580 flood comes and goes so fast that i read it while falling asleep and i nodded off for a second and

00:02:43.520 it just i missed that whole and then a bunch of lists again oh i'll skip those what this does

00:02:50.420 is it causes you to read it in an inverted format to how somebody of the period it was written would

00:02:57.980 have read it oh they would have said oh some interesting lists that are telling us stuff

00:03:02.840 then they get to the flood narrative and they go oh another flood narrative i've read a dozen of

00:03:07.800 those this week let's just skip over that and or or rather they would have understood that the flood

00:03:13.980 narrative meant something if you have a flood narrative in the middle of a collection of

00:03:18.560 lists traditionally in sumerian writing from that period what you were talking about is a

00:03:24.800 transitional event something really big transition between these two periods wait so you're saying

00:03:30.000 flood narratives didn't just turn out up in the old testament of the bible yeah flood narratives

00:03:35.340 are everywhere during that period you weren't kidding like they it was just it was like a

00:03:39.580 literary convention it was a literary convention yeah it was a literary convention that meant

00:03:44.600 something big just transitioned why does no why does no one mention this what uh okay i think a

00:03:50.640 lot of people mentioned this a lot of people are familiar with gilgamesh at least yeah but

00:03:54.920 god i read it back in college was there a flood in gilgamesh i don't remember there being a flood

00:03:59.440 in gilgamesh yes and remember the bromance that's what we're all here for ladies but what gets

00:04:04.220 crazier is something I didn't notice when I was first looking at these lists. Okay. And as soon

00:04:08.840 as you notice it, you notice that you're actually looking at three different things. So list number

00:04:16.800 one is unlike any list I have ever seen in my entire life or that we have any archaeological

00:04:23.280 evidence of. Okay. And a lot of people don't notice this about it when they read it the first

00:04:27.900 time it does something very very strange okay instead of listing you know when people were

00:04:36.500 born and when they die or how long they lived and who they begat it instead also lists their age

00:04:46.480 when they had the kid the second list well rather the third list the third list also does this

00:04:55.880 yeah Genesis 5 and Genesis 10 and it's really weird because why are some people waiting until

00:05:00.600 they're in their 80s to have kids like people are just like this makes sense that's that's not as

00:05:04.640 important what's more important is we don't have a single list like this anywhere in the Mesopotamian

00:05:11.600 archaeological record this is not the way people record their ancestors and it's a weird thing to

00:05:17.520 do even today you don't typically record the age somebody was when they have a kid why would you do

00:05:24.540 this why would you be recording the age somebody was at when they had a kid because if you do that

00:05:31.480 you have something other than a list you have a timeline it you you can know exactly how long the

00:05:39.440 timeline is if you don't know when a person was born and their parents lived 800 900 years

00:05:48.060 supposedly they could have been born anywhere within that 800 to 900 years that's true so you

00:05:53.400 don't actually have a timeline of events yeah okay this gives you a very tight inalterable

00:06:01.540 timeline so then the question is of course is this timeline must mean something if it was recorded in

00:06:08.180 the bible for that long what does it mean like like it you could say oh it's just a list of

00:06:16.160 people's ages and when they had kids why is that important information and it also doesn't make

00:06:22.300 sense they seem to be living an impossible amount of time for a human to live yeah right yes and

00:06:29.320 they're also not recorded the way that the bible often records when it's talking about actual

00:06:34.120 people you'll notice something on these original lists it's single names when the bible later

00:06:40.240 records lists of actual people it'll say jesus of natherus john the baptist oh good point yeah

00:06:48.620 it's differentiating them very explicitly yeah like everyone's given like a uh side hustle thing

00:06:56.400 or a city that they're from or something like this so this appears to be talking about a different

00:07:01.180 kind of thing so i thought okay what if it's talking about cultural groups right like what

00:07:07.540 if it's talking about civilizations this civilization and then this civilization was

00:07:12.580 burst from that civilization and then this civilization was burst from that civilization

00:07:16.660 and many of these civilizations would have been concurrent to each other right well i then lapped

00:07:23.800 it on top of a specific period in history that makes a lot of sense to choose and you actually

00:07:29.220 get a near perfect timeline of civilizations that match the archaeological record often within gaps

00:07:40.040 of 30 years we're not talking like thousands of years off or anything like this we are talking

00:07:47.720 about from from an archaeological perspective an infinitesimal gap and this happens when you lay

00:07:54.300 it out about 13 times now there's a few names that don't fully map to things i'll admit that

00:08:00.220 but we can always say the archaeological record might be off here or it might be describing a

00:08:04.760 civilization that we haven't found yet wow but it gets stranger than that

00:08:10.960 so we're going because then you get the flood right which is a massive civilizational turning

00:08:19.200 point that we'll talk about that's being talked about here and a real flood but the the flood

00:08:23.960 and the civilizational turning point happen at different times and the real flood doesn't happen

00:08:28.340 at the time the flood narrative does but at the time the flood narrative happens two other really

00:08:34.000 important things happen if you're going by my timeline here right like if if the timeline i have

00:08:38.060 you have a regional high point of the seas in this region globally speaking it's the highest they ever

00:08:44.360 were and you have the invention of sailing ships appearing for the first time which is also really

00:08:49.840 interesting and another thing we'll get to is the actual dimensions for the arc because that's

00:08:53.940 another weird thing why are there dimensions for the arc here and what we'll go into is the

00:08:57.720 dimensions for the arc are weird in how not weird they are they would actually describe a boat that

00:09:07.280 would work with technology that shouldn't have been like people at the time when they made up

00:09:14.040 ship descriptions because they did in the gilgamesh met they they made up a ship description

00:09:18.820 but the for for that flood narrative but the ship description they made up in the gilgamesh

00:09:23.120 narrative wouldn't have worked oh like the ship would have immediately sunk or something yeah

00:09:27.640 would have immediately capsized and sunk but the ship laid out in the ark not only would have

00:09:33.660 worked it would have been the ideal way to build a ship for an event like that a rudderless large

00:09:40.220 ship that just needed to stay afloat for a period so we're going to get into all of this now i will

00:09:44.900 note here this is really big for me because the noah story is a story that made my family 0.96

00:09:49.800 not christian anymore right my dad read it and he goes this seems stupid yeah this does not seem

00:09:55.620 like obviously not all of the animals on earth could have fit in a boat and if they're using 0.97

00:10:00.920 magic why not just say they're using magic that would have been easier and even if so how did he

00:10:05.800 redistribute the animals to all of their correct regions after the flood happened without needing

00:10:11.960 to mention that they were massively stretch yeah where they're like oh must have made it on a

00:10:17.040 floating forest or something to australia and marsupials can travel farther because their

00:10:22.280 their infants can suckle inside their pouches yeah that's not necessary i guess per your view

00:10:27.380 yes how that's gonna how are you gonna thread this needle how how am i gonna thread the needle

00:10:31.860 to make this all work so we're gonna get into that because it's crazy i have a website that

00:10:36.520 you guys can go to where i have the maps on it oh also also there's a really detailed and

00:10:41.940 impossible map buried in this part of genesis that we're gonna get to that literally goes

00:10:47.180 from spain to like the far middle east region and then down to like the bottom of like egypt

00:10:54.600 which is wild because if you compare it to other contemporaneous maps of people like the ancient

00:11:02.200 greek ones in the ancient egyptian ones they are laughably bad in comparison to this map layout

00:11:07.480 this was one when i was reading it i go this sounds like a map to me in a genealogy is it

00:11:11.480 accurate and it's been scientifically genetically proven today that the genealogy is accurate and

00:11:16.140 it goes back to deciding describing events and with names like uruk that would have been being

00:11:22.500 written about like 10 000 years after the event but really let's go back let's start at the

00:11:28.420 beginning about how i i got to all this and we'll get to a few other really really really crazy

00:11:33.780 things here okay yes okay so do this um i have before said that i thought the garden of eden

00:11:43.640 and I will make this more specific here, started at Gobliotechi, right? So this is the first human

00:11:50.360 settlement we know. The Bible says the Garden of Eden is at the mouse waters of the Tigris and

00:11:54.460 the Euphrates. And actually one of the other rivers they describe, they mentioned having like

00:11:58.020 gold deposits on it. And we've actually found a dry riverbed that would have dried up about 10,000

00:12:01.960 years before the Bible was written that had the same mouse waters. So again, information they

00:12:06.180 shouldn't have had access to during this period. But Gobliotechi is the first settlement. And then

00:12:12.420 the last settlement of this period that we sort of will say is the end, because this is where we

00:12:16.560 begin to start our timeline, is Chatelhuyuk. This is when you have the first permanent settlement.

00:12:21.940 Tobliateki, while it is the first like built up settlement that is exactly at the right location,

00:12:26.400 was not a permanent settlement. It was like a hunter forager settlement, right? Now you want

00:12:31.400 to know what the most common inscription is at Tobliateki, Simone? I didn't know this until I

00:12:37.260 was going over this with AI. No, no. What is it? I'm just going to have you guess. From

00:12:42.160 from like what would be the craziest thing to just be drawn all over toby a techie if it's

00:12:49.080 was what the garden of eden was talking about oops

00:12:53.740 what come on guess what pomegranates snakes snakes are everywhere it is there's a study

00:13:06.100 snakes why did it have to be snakes it's the single most common inscription and i'll put

00:13:11.640 some of them on screen here for you guys and this was a site that wasn't in use for over 10 000

00:13:17.380 years when the the modern anthropological understanding of when these stories were

00:13:21.440 written down happened so so it gets crazy right okay and and so this would have been about an

00:13:28.320 8 000 window the ledger that picks up below the moment of the garden of eden era ends adam's year

00:13:34.160 zero is the first fully agricultural metropolis put on the narrative and it chains together you

00:13:39.700 get a continuous coverage of earth's history from 96 000 bc to 2000 bc with dates this also this

00:13:49.020 period that it ends at was the early homocene humid period which was the planetary wet phase

00:13:54.700 that made this entire area extremely green and verdant so you actually would have had a garden

00:14:01.020 of eden was in this region of mesopotamia during this period oh my gosh the other crazy thing about

00:14:07.540 this story is that this region like you might think why is this totally a techie area important

00:14:13.120 yeah um it maps so the story starts with goblia techie and it ends with abraham that's where the

00:14:21.240 the rest of the narrative picks up again in abraham you get two lists of names one was

00:14:27.080 impossible ages which will map to specific events the second was that appeared to be a real genealogy

00:14:33.260 and they they're they're bookended we'll get to this but the real genealogy gets really really

00:14:37.820 interesting because the real genealogy has a list of names in it that now we we only discovered this

00:14:46.740 in the 1950s to today nobody would have known this from the age of babylon till today but the

00:14:53.840 list of names turns out to have been a list of town names around this area from around the age

00:15:01.260 that abraham would have been alive so they're not people they're settlements they're they're well

00:15:06.000 it might have been people named after settlements or it might have been settlements named after

00:15:09.220 people but it's irrelevant what it tells us is a few things one is is if you know the story of

00:15:14.920 abraham he he's in er right but he as er collapsed goes north to like where his kin are when he sends

00:15:22.940 for wives he sends north where his kin are and that would map to this particular region what's

00:15:28.860 interesting here is it means that we're dealing with a story of largely one place throughout this

00:15:35.160 entire period a place that would have lasted if you're looking like totally a tepki to to erin

00:15:41.800 a 10 000 year period it was completely lost to history and then we found it again when we were

00:15:47.960 able to reread the the language of the people of that period in archaeological sites around there

00:15:54.200 and i'm going to put a map on screen here so if you scroll down i actually created on the website

00:15:59.480 here a map of all of the cities with names of of abraham's immediate ancestors and you can see it's

00:16:09.660 it's not like one or two it's a lot of overlapping names in a very tight geographic region so

00:16:17.380 So Goblikateki overlooks the Haran Plain, which drains into the Baalqir River, the same valley where the ledger's northern villages sit and where Abraham's grandfather and great-grandfather's names survive as town names.

00:16:31.740 So you have this beautiful handoff eons later, okay?

00:16:37.460 The three names before Abraham are Sarug, his great-grandfather, Nahor, his grandfather, and Terah, his father.

00:16:45.020 So again, very unlikely to be coincident.

00:16:48.200 Now, here's what the Cuneiform Report record.

00:16:51.320 Assyrian interracies in Mari letters turned up, with no help from the Bible, real towns

00:16:56.540 in the Haran district carrying the names.

00:16:59.140 Abraham's ancestors are the towns of his family's district, and the text keeps pointing there.

00:17:04.720 The Torah moves from the family of Haran, Genesis 11, 31.

00:17:09.540 Abraham's servant fetches Rebekah from the city of Nahor, Genesis 24. 0.72

00:17:13.300 Jacob runs to Haran, Genesis 28. So basically they told us a few things. One, obviously same

00:17:19.760 location, but two, that these are real people in the location they say they're from. And we also

00:17:24.860 know that these are one of the descendant populations of the Jews, which again is pretty

00:17:29.560 interesting. This is crazy. Were you pulling from anyone else talking about this? Like who else is 1.00

00:17:36.860 looking at it from this perspective? A few people have mentioned that Tobliateki might be with

00:17:43.240 being talked about in the garden of eden but the timeline that i found appears to be completely

00:17:48.140 unique to me the people aren't saying that these are settlements or cohorts rather than no no the

00:17:54.480 abraham names other people have picked up on that that was like a crazy thing when people found that

00:17:58.540 but the really crazy thing we're about to get to as far as i'm aware i am the first person to find

00:18:03.960 this then go on so now we are going to go to that first list of names right names dates kids

00:18:15.280 everything like that now if you scroll down look at the first chart here yeah whoa oh right yeah

00:18:24.160 so this chart again is not something i can mess with i'm taking chattel hoyuk the first known

00:18:29.020 large, real settle. Adam and Seth. And then I'm charting the names here on all of the cultures

00:18:35.360 around that particular region. And we will actually like expand it out here. And what you

00:18:41.420 see is incredibly tight matching here. So if you, if you map Adam onto the Chattahuyuk East Mound,

00:18:48.740 along with the, the first kid Seth, you get very, very tight alignment with this. Actually,

00:18:55.700 I'll just read about these, these different people, because I think it's really interesting.

00:18:58.640 seth the first kid i thought it was kane and abel am i super off here well remember what happened to

00:19:05.520 those two yeah it didn't end so well so oh then they have another kid seth yes that's the one

00:19:11.840 that everyone else yes because abel's dead and kane is a naughty boy he's in the bad yeah the bad

00:19:19.920 dog house okay go on sorry okay so not only do you have in nine points really tight mapping to

00:19:27.760 our archaeological record of this period. But we have, if we take the flood as a break point,

00:19:33.760 that ends at the 5,444 BC, the moment Halaf-Ubai transition begins, the boundary at which every

00:19:42.560 distinct culture of the old Neolithic world stopped existing, and exactly one cultural

00:19:47.640 path to the Ubiad, the irrigation and temple people of the southern marshes, survived, spread,

00:19:53.820 and repopulated the entire near east so one one group really did end up replacing all other people

00:20:01.480 at the exact end of this period if you go by this dating metric really so this this global cold or

00:20:09.620 arid shock that went from 6200 to 6000 bc no no that that maps to a number of the events that

00:20:19.880 are written about in genealogy the flood is the end bar here where you have the the flood we'll

00:20:25.460 talk about that oh the flood's a big red bar sorry okay gotcha yeah i want to hear more about the

00:20:30.060 flood but yeah go on i won't no spoilers or whatever the flesh are what died in these with

00:20:34.020 not necessarily bodies but within a few generations there were no more healthians no more yamurian

00:20:40.060 descendants no more of anyone using the survivor's pottery whether the now anthropologists are just

00:20:48.040 like oh yeah after this period this one group of people ended up replacing everyone else but it was

00:20:53.920 mostly peaceful because we don't see a lot of signs of battles and we don't see a lot of signs

00:20:59.040 of burning to which i'd respond oh well by that metric then the american colonization of the native

00:21:06.080 peoples was totally peaceful because you're not going to find a lot of those there either this

00:21:10.480 is actually a phenomenon in archaeology where they'll say something is totally peaceful because

00:21:13.720 they want to believe things are totally peaceful and these types of transitions happen peacefully

00:21:16.980 and then later we learned no it actually was a very violent transition where one group of people

00:21:21.840 wiped out almost everyone else and what made this group different than all of the other groups

00:21:27.420 well they had a few things that made them different they had standalone temples in the

00:21:33.120 center of their cities which nobody had before they had settled agricultural lands and canals

00:21:38.480 they were the first it was essentially the most important transition post the introduction of

00:21:46.500 agriculture and it's captured perfectly you have the first settled city kettle who yuck you lay

00:21:52.200 out the timeline the bible gives us you get the flood at exactly the moment this one culture 0.95

00:21:57.940 comes through and wipes out almost everyone else okay you can really think of this as the end of 0.96

00:22:02.400 the walk away option for humanity for 10 000 years before it the human operation system was the

00:22:08.000 autonomous village you had your household you had local like in your house stored grains but you

00:22:12.760 didn't have kings or armies and when things went bad people would just leave as we see happening

00:22:18.320 throughout this period irrigation really changed all of that and this is where you get the the

00:22:23.280 beginning of that specifically irrigation means capital invested as a ground and when you can buy

00:22:27.740 that with a central temple that allows for centralized storage redistribution you get the

00:22:33.360 beginning of taxes administration writing and kingship and this is why when you look at all

00:22:39.760 the civilizations after this uruk babylon everything they come from this this is the

00:22:47.200 central point where everything sort of re-centralizes and this is predicted to the date near perfectly

00:22:56.720 if you start counting with the timeline we're given at the bible with adam

00:23:01.040 at the beginning of chadal huyuk the first permanent settlement period and the other

00:23:05.840 really interesting thing here is if you look at the traditional narratives a lot of people have

00:23:09.200 have had trouble with these dates because it looks like from the traditional dates given up here

00:23:13.760 that some individuals lived into the period of the flood and certain christian groups and certain

00:23:18.720 jewish groups have tried to redo the dates to make that not work but if the flood doesn't literally

00:23:24.880 happen at this time that actually doesn't introduce a contradiction at all it shows that they were

00:23:30.780 introducing a contradiction by going through and trying to rewrite it now how quick to to what date

00:23:38.680 Does this happen?

00:23:39.860 So if you tie Adam to Chattel-Huyuk and then look at where you end up.

00:23:43.600 The Hothal-Uniad transition is bracketed between 5,500 BC and 5,400 BC.

00:23:51.520 So the boundary is only known to half a century.

00:23:54.000 The computed flood would have happened if you use these numbers at 5,444 BC,

00:24:01.320 which isn't just inside of this bracket.

00:24:04.280 It lands six years from the bracket's midpoint, which is astonishing.

00:24:08.680 when you're looking at tens of thousands years of human history.

00:24:11.920 For people who want to see what these different people lived like,

00:24:15.380 what their settlements look like,

00:24:16.840 I have AI images of each type of settlement here

00:24:19.440 that goes along with what's written about them in the Bible.

00:24:22.720 So we'll go through this.

00:24:24.620 All right, so let's start with Ketel Hooyak.

00:24:27.440 Okay.

00:24:28.020 The Bible here says about these people,

00:24:29.260 when Adam lived 130 years,

00:24:31.460 he had his son of his own likeness and his own lineage and named them Seth.

00:24:34.540 Altogether, Adam lived a total of 930 years and then died.

00:24:37.340 this appears to match to katal huyuk a honeycomb of mud brick houses with no streets you walk the

00:24:42.900 roofs and descended a ladder through a smoke hole dead and buried under the floors skull kept and

00:24:47.920 plastered painted certain history houses rebuilt in place for centuries up to 8 000 people with

00:24:54.100 no palace no temple no rich quarters the 8.2 kilometer climate shock broke the pottery and

00:24:59.760 then it gets destroyed and this maps pretty closely you can see it in the above here

00:25:03.400 then you have the unok taking two centuries of cold and drought emptied the mega sites

00:25:09.540 populations didn't die out they scattered into smaller and tougher villages this aligns here

00:25:14.480 was unok walked among the faithful with god and then he was no more because god took him away

00:25:19.100 a lot of people really focus on enoch when they're doing biblical histories and stuff like that

00:25:23.500 because every other culture is mentioned as dying but enoch whose end matches this cold period when

00:25:32.200 you have a bunch of settlements just disperse and then reform later matches the being taken up to

00:25:38.280 god right then you have the northern village world this matches with enosh and kahan's era

00:25:44.000 when ses lived 105 years he became his father enosh at that time people came to call the land

00:25:48.960 of the lord small farming villages across syria and iraq umdabak's hunting outposts the balak

00:25:56.200 valley's farmsteads and the saudi arabia's burnt village so this would have been on 6000 bc

00:26:01.560 preserved hundreds of stamped clay ceilings so this would have been the beginning of writing

00:26:07.220 happening here but this was also before property and before kings actually for people who want to

00:26:13.240 go through this i imagine this is probably pretty boring here to go through every one of these

00:26:16.940 historical periods but i was able to build the map for you that you can see here and see all of

00:26:22.140 these different things map to specific individuals and then it ends with again the most important

00:26:29.860 civilizational change in human history up to that point other than the first settlements

00:26:35.300 captured really tightly so let's look to see how how tightly these are these are captured here

00:26:40.380 because i even did a map with gratings of the tightness of the captures okay

00:26:45.040 okay so if you go with adam dies at the classic catalytic package breaks at the 8.2 climate

00:26:53.060 climate shock then for cess the sun born in his own likeness and in his own image the same culture

00:26:58.420 continuing dies a century before the mound empties so he cess was only within a century of the deaths

00:27:05.440 of this settlement but that's still pretty close when you're dealing with numbers like this and

00:27:08.880 keep in mind the archaeologists could have it wrong then you have enosh which means man a

00:27:14.020 doublet of atoms meaning the refounded second village world after the collapse and the

00:27:19.180 formalization of the first real religion or cult that you would have had then you have khan this

00:27:25.500 one doesn't map very closely then you have malal this one is a close match this one they also talk

00:27:31.660 about praising of god and it's when we find early cult-like figures of some god in these settlements

00:27:38.780 the god that's mentioned is sharer hal golan but if you believe like a techno puritan does that

00:27:43.700 like the understanding of god evolved over this period and that the ways that the early proto-jews

00:27:50.260 of this period understood god weren't necessarily like the later jews this period i even think that

00:27:55.100 that's a normal jewish understanding of of this particular period it maps pretty closely then the

00:28:02.320 next one that we get that's a pretty close match is enoch the one lineage that was more for god or

00:28:07.200 took him dispersed not died at 365 the the solar year number then you have the longest lived

00:28:14.040 patriarch mesuzalah which matches pretty closely and exactly at it dies exactly as halaf ends this

00:28:22.720 was one of the settlements here that you can learn more about if you want to go in this and then you

00:28:27.400 finally get to the flood now the flood i i think was was in 30 years if you put this whole list

00:28:33.440 together and started at chetel huyuk which is absolutely wild to me now we're going to go to

00:28:40.560 the second list of names because i found that one really fascinating as well so if that's a timeline

00:28:46.740 then the question is well what's with all these other inhumanly long lifespans that you see in

00:28:53.280 the second list after the flood right all right so here you have to say what's real what's really

00:29:02.860 cool about this is it ends in an actual human who we know like abraham who we can be quite sure

00:29:08.400 seems to have been a like this is when like human history as we understand human history in a modern

00:29:14.280 context begins to be written about in the Bible, instead of talking about things using this

00:29:18.400 language that the Sumerians used of stories and lists and impossibly long names that might have

00:29:24.580 been meant to be civilizations rather than specific individuals. So Genesis 11 turns out to be two

00:29:33.080 records spliced together. A real family pedigree, its fathering ages are normal, 29 to 35, carrying

00:29:39.140 an inherited mythic payload if lifespans are 600 438 433 464 239 239 you get the idea here right

00:29:48.620 which sound a lot more like a king's list with durations laid end to end and then it's

00:29:54.480 because that's the way that you would write king's list during those periods

00:29:59.160 and it would basically be like a dynastic king's list so it'd be a list of king's families oh so

00:30:05.680 Like, yeah, the House of Atreides ruled over Arrakis and then whatever.

00:30:10.040 Yeah.

00:30:10.380 So it could be multiple people or generations, but it's kind of a regime.

00:30:14.760 The lifespan of a regime, like the Kim regime in North Korea. 0.57

00:30:19.620 So if you put these end to end and you say, okay, the flood is the transition into this new group of people. 0.82

00:30:29.140 When did that transition end?

00:30:31.060 that transition ended 5200 to 5000 bc okay then if you put that list exactly there what happens

00:30:42.200 at the end of that timed list and again i have this up here is not just do a number of the births

00:30:48.520 and deaths line up with important events within the region during that time period but it also

00:30:56.840 ends with the destruction of ur and abraham like the the dates actually match but let's go to some

00:31:04.060 of these matches because i find them pretty interesting please okay so if you go to the end

00:31:10.580 of erphoridox that does match this is a boundary uh where you have the the urok start period and

00:31:18.820 the mature ubiad kingdom that we had talked about before that that eventually sort of died out during

00:31:24.280 this period okay so at the end of the first two lives you have a pretty important transition

00:31:28.820 note here what what would be the end of shim's life it appears to happen at the boundary of

00:31:34.360 4 000 versus the ubiad third to fourth turn but that's not that big an event but then we get a

00:31:40.940 really important one ever his boundary is really close only within 35 years of the boundary of the

00:31:47.980 Urak Collapse, 3065 BC, and pegs the days open where Genesis 1025 puts the division of the earth.

00:31:59.160 Then you get another big one here, which is the movement between the Farad and Ed 3 period,

00:32:06.280 which is at the end of Renud's life. Then at the boundary of 23557 versus the Lagasali

00:32:14.480 sargon period this is the end of shirag's life and then at the end of tara's life you have the

00:32:21.240 chain of events end with the sack of ur now i want to emphasize for people when you're when

00:32:27.480 you're laying out the numbers in these ways and i can be like oh this doesn't really fit the

00:32:32.580 archaeological data here good you're like oh so then you're just moving the numbers to match

00:32:36.620 whatever the record means no you can't do that with the way the data is laid out in the bible

00:32:41.320 The Bible, because it's giving you the birth dates, if you get one wrong or it's tied to

00:32:47.460 some historical event that we're unassure of, it doesn't move the rest of the chain

00:32:51.760 off.

00:32:52.540 The other thing that's really interesting about the second list is if you look at the

00:32:57.520 deaths where I'm like, this doesn't seem to correspond to anything historically big

00:33:01.100 that we're aware of, what you will note is in every one of the periods where historians

00:33:06.460 do make divisions, one of the deaths happens there.

00:33:11.320 so so what i'm saying is that they caught all of the things that historians are aware of

00:33:16.760 what we might have is a case where the other deaths where i'm like historians just aren't

00:33:20.960 aware of anything big there might not just have found it yet which really shocked me to see this

00:33:28.540 really tight mapping but now we're going to go to the map because i found the map pretty crazy as

00:33:35.200 well and again you can go through a lot of this this is put together with ai so it reads very ai

00:33:39.060 because I did it with leading models

00:33:40.860 which aren't as good at writing a natural language

00:33:42.620 but they are good at like having a ledger

00:33:45.240 because I had to to do this

00:33:46.880 it wasn't like I probably spent a couple hundred dollars

00:33:49.600 working on this guy

00:33:50.240 so I really spent the tokens on getting this done

00:33:52.640 wow doing the work

00:33:54.140 using Fable to

00:33:55.880 well because I wanted to cross reference

00:33:57.940 as much as I could

00:34:00.300 to get as accurate of an understanding

00:34:04.340 of the region as I could

00:34:06.620 so go down to the map

00:34:08.040 I'm looking at it now.

00:34:09.920 Yeah.

00:34:10.340 So there's a part in Genesis where it begins to start listing without dates, a bunch of

00:34:18.700 so-and-so begot so-and-so, and they are a descendant of this group.

00:34:24.180 And what you'll notice in this is a list of a bunch of real world places like Egypt and

00:34:30.980 Libya and stuff like this, right?

00:34:33.540 And so then I begin to go, wait, are all of these real places?

00:34:36.860 and they actually are this is basically a historic map that's being laid out here and it is a giant

00:34:45.180 historic map that's being laid out here so is this map saying that shinar is babylon aka uruk aka

00:34:53.380 akad yes so in a number of these places what they will do and you'll see the names are really close

00:34:59.760 right like tabool tabal mashek mashuk tyrus thrace as one that you would be familiar about

00:35:07.960 madai the medis and then assyria it's like just like assyria right or a they they'll they'll be

00:35:16.460 translations that we're familiar with from that particular period or like kaftor meaning crete

00:35:22.740 like not that far radaman meaning roads and again you could say oh you're just finding names that

00:35:28.940 are similar to each other but they didn't just give us a list of names here they say how these

00:35:34.020 groups are culturally related to each other they'll say in the old testament they do oh yes

00:35:40.240 they do they're they treat them as families like it's talked about as if it's talking about a

00:35:45.000 genealogical tree but then it has things like egypt on the genealogical tree so it's like

00:35:49.260 obviously not a genealogical tree yeah okay so you can't just scattershot anything close to anything

00:35:57.580 right you actually have to put the name not just next to a culture or group that seems very close

00:36:05.860 to that name but you have to do it in a region where they're culturally related to each other

00:36:12.360 and as you can see on this map you see all the greens are culture related to each other all the

00:36:17.560 purples are culture related to each other all the reds are culture related oh that's color coding

00:36:21.300 okay okay okay and it also picks up things that you wouldn't get if you were from that region you 0.92

00:36:27.920 didn't have knowledge so a few crazy things that they get they get urok cultural descendants even

00:36:35.640 though it was 10 000 years before they were writing right no way they could have known about

00:36:39.460 it and they get things like that the medes are actually descended from the people of the turkish

00:36:45.580 area and not the surrounding area like you would have expected wow okay i guess it makes sense

00:36:53.180 explaining these in a family format if people are like before the bible was written down people are

00:36:59.240 just giving oral they're passing down oral traditions so to kind of it's like a mnemonic

00:37:06.120 device to make it about families because i guess the question here becomes you you could say anyone

00:37:12.800 could have done this but the problem is is if you are familiar with your ancient greek history or

00:37:19.440 ancient egyptian history and you've read any of that both of those societies were dramatically

00:37:24.960 more learned they had dramatically more money they had dramatically more like the size of this map

00:37:31.700 if you're going to compare it to other maps of the time would have to be a combination of the

00:37:38.300 phoenicians trading map and the assyrians conquest map right like the two largest maps anyone would

00:37:46.120 have known during that period if you compare it with the ancient greek map it just becomes laughable

00:37:51.860 right and i note here when you look at the ancient greek maps or you look at the ancient egypt maps

00:37:58.480 what do you see at the edges of those maps it's always like well and here's where the mermaids

00:38:04.060 live and here's where the the snake the nagas live yeah and here's where the cyclopses live

00:38:10.400 and here's where the giants live but you don't get that with this map no it's everyone here is

00:38:17.500 a human group of some type yeah wow pretty uncanny yeah i've got to say this is a little trippy this

00:38:27.260 is this is crazy it's it's trippier than you think yeah like when to me when i was reading that i was 0.70

00:38:31.640 like wait this sounds like a map and a list of descendants is it accurate and it's accurate to

00:38:36.500 modern dna research and and also not intuitive to people of this period and again you can go

00:38:43.800 through my out i don't want to bore you with like oh this study this study this group that you've

00:38:49.300 never heard of is actually descended from this group you've never heard of because you don't

00:38:53.000 care about these people you care about is that this seems implausible that they could have this

00:39:00.140 level of knowledge yeah yeah that's crazy that's crazy now i want to talk about the other one

00:39:08.180 that's really crazy okay when all of earth had one language the the story of the Torah fabble

00:39:15.320 okay yeah this one really got to me because i was like that that doesn't seem to make a lot of

00:39:24.660 sense i'm super curious about it because i i don't think i've gotten to that point in the book

00:39:29.060 all testament maybe i have but like i i do wonder what what that is i mean it was alluded to in the

00:39:37.140 recent papal whatever the big announcement of basically about ai that the latest pope released

00:39:44.120 so people are we're talking about that particularly particular biblical story recently

00:39:49.680 yeah it appears to be talking about uruk and it's really fascinating that it's talking about

00:39:55.760 Uruk because it gets a bunch of things about Uruk right. One of the really weird things it gets

00:40:01.260 right about Uruk that you wouldn't expect is it describes how they made brick during that period,

00:40:07.640 which wasn't something that they would have been aware of. So I'm just going to read like AI's 0.92

00:40:13.220 description here, which I think did a better job. The Uruk expansion homogenized the Near East for 0.69

00:40:17.000 the first time. The same mass-produced pottery, the same architecture, the same administration 0.95

00:40:21.920 from the Gulf of Syria to Iran and above all the same proto-writing. The numeric tablets and

00:40:27.420 ceilings of the late Urak word are mutually readable from Urak to Susan to Habal to Khabaira

00:40:35.540 on the Syrian Euphrates, one symbol system across the entire known world. That's the one language,

00:40:41.280 an administrative fact. And after the collapse, the records show exactly what the story says

00:40:46.620 happen. That one script diverges. Proto-Eliamite splits off in Iran and becomes mutually unreadable

00:40:53.400 from proto-cuneiform within a century. Egypt's system goes its own way. The uniform culture

00:40:59.720 fragments back into regional styles. The one language becomes many. And what about the giant

00:41:06.880 temples they were building into the sky? Well, Uroch's Anna Ziggurat and the Anna Precinct,

00:41:12.840 the first monumental platforms in the world were made of brick and not stone, as you would have

00:41:18.180 assumed if they were writing it at that time. And they say here in the story, brick for stone,

00:41:23.160 bitman for mortar, which would have been a weird way to make a temple like this in this later

00:41:26.900 period. For sure. That gloss exists for an audience that assumes stone, a highland audience

00:41:34.020 being told how lowlanders built. So you get a description here of the very first monumental

00:41:40.500 structures the very first near universal administrative language within the region

00:41:45.980 and it actually falling apart within the time that we are talking about and that it appears

00:41:54.100 within the larger narrative that's crazy and keep in mind here i'm still taking a literalist just a

00:42:01.460 deep literacy approach that the bible means what it says in the way that people at the time would

00:42:07.580 have understood it in these sort of over-the-top mythologized stories which is very different than

00:42:14.320 what you need to accept if you want to believe that literally there was once a town where all

00:42:19.520 humans on earth lived at the same time and spoke the same language that existed after the flood

00:42:25.860 and we don't have archaeological evidence of it or this giant tower they were building and that

00:42:30.880 god intentionally didn't want humanity to work together and intentionally sowed discord in

00:42:35.520 humanity. It seems like that's not really what he's about. This to me seems more like a human

00:42:41.840 description of what happened than God's true intent. Although I do think that this can be

00:42:48.420 seen as a story about God wanting a degree of diversity in human perspectives. So even when

00:42:53.840 we take the stars, why it makes sense to bring people who are not exactly like us and work with 0.60

00:42:58.940 them is if not, we are recreating the Tower of Babel. I'm just trying to figure out like how

00:43:03.240 people even got this straight as they were passing on as an oral tradition before it all became well

00:43:09.440 they couldn't have it's literally impossible that this is solely an oral tradition nowhere on earth

00:43:15.040 do we have oral traditions that are this good for this long and it would have like that i'm aware of

00:43:21.140 right you you do not get a 10 000 year oral tradition with this much fidelity normally i'd

00:43:31.300 actually argue because you get things like the the flood so let's let's talk about the flood for a

00:43:36.700 second because a lot of people get hung up on you're with actually i'm dying to hear about this

00:43:43.180 the flood please okay the problem with the flood is there's actually four potential floods that you

00:43:51.900 could be talking about within this region and everybody loves to point to one of the four and

00:43:57.020 i think that actually trying to find the flood misses the point okay right so everyone's looking

00:44:02.900 for water and and high sea levels or something and you're saying no no no it's a flood narrative it

00:44:09.660 was a standard way to put a break in a story during that period and it was common in the way

00:44:15.340 stories were told during that theory period it can almost be thought of as a thematic element

00:44:20.460 it wasn't meant to be read as a real thing but if we are talking about real floods in this region

00:44:27.720 the the giant one if you're talking about flooding the entire world that it could be talking about

00:44:33.300 would be the mediterranean the mediterranean if you're unaware of this is the result of the you

00:44:40.700 know the straight of gibraltar yeah so that used to be closed and it like broke one day and then

00:44:47.260 filled in the entire mediterranean whoa whoa whoa whoa so it was it was a below sea level depression

00:44:53.460 that was held by a natural dam yeah are you kidding that's crazy the problem is that really

00:45:02.280 is that really a geological history thing this is a real geological history thing is that would

00:45:08.080 have been uh pre-hominid likely or early hominids if i remember correctly and there's no way we

00:45:15.200 would have had a memory of that none at all and even so anyone in the period there a boat wouldn't 0.63

00:45:20.940 have saved you from that that event in terms of its cataclysm i don't care how big your arc is

00:45:26.540 everything that's a tidal wave the arc isn't gonna well it's not just a tidal wave it's a it's an

00:45:32.700 amount of water moving so fast the numbers we're talking about are like atomic bomb numbers in

00:45:38.720 terms of the amount of force that we're talking about not only that but very few things lived in

00:45:43.520 that depression because it created this horribly arid desert with super super hot temperatures okay

00:45:49.160 so you're like look it flooded but also probably no one was there probably no one was there so it

00:45:55.020 doesn't really matter okay the next really big apocalyptic one is the black sea so around 5600

00:46:03.260 bc the rising mediterranean reconnected with the black sea this is sort of the right era if a flash

00:46:08.760 breach is right you would have had catastrophic flooding but that's the contested point we're not

00:46:15.100 we don't have my understanding a lot of record that this was actually catastrophic within this

00:46:19.920 particular period and i it's a little early for anything that i think matches with the biblical

00:46:29.300 events here sure yeah that's fair then you have the one that is honestly most likely the real

00:46:37.780 flood the flood that's remembered okay okay okay um and this is the shirapak river flood

00:46:44.060 now where's the shirapak river uh the shirapak river is a mesopotamian so this is a real flood

00:46:54.120 stratum that separates the jeremedet nasir from the early dynastic layer of the shirapak and

00:47:00.160 kish and the mesopotamian tradition itself makes the flood hero a man of shirapak now this is where

00:47:07.000 it becomes problematic right okay this assumes just as a presumption that the bible is taking

00:47:15.120 a flood narrative that it is borrowing from this other group because the other group notes where

00:47:23.600 the flood happened it says it happened in shuripak and we can see in the archaeological layer

00:47:28.300 a flood in shuripak within living memory of when this would have happened

00:47:32.400 now this doesn't match none of these floods match the date of the flood in my chronology here which

00:47:41.040 is why i think the flood is meant to be like used in the way floods were used in this period to mark

00:47:46.740 changes in periods but i also think it's a a real event so what what actually matches the date that

00:47:55.140 i have within this period the persian gulf inundation the post-glacial sea filled the gulf

00:48:01.780 basin and stood above today's shoreline exactly across the ledger boundary advancing up to a

00:48:07.120 kilometer a year in some of the flattest land on earth fast enough to eat a community's county

00:48:12.460 within living memory it drowned out the tradition's own source geography the pre-Ubiad coastal world

00:48:18.660 Arabub ends up under the waterline which is why the era divider sits where it does

00:48:24.340 so this is what I this is what matches was my timeline what people would have seen happening

00:48:30.340 was in this particular period is not a catastrophic flood but a town's disappearing in a matter of

00:48:38.160 years a troublesome flood right yeah yeah a significant climate driven shift in in the way

00:48:44.880 that people lived or where they lived you're saying yes and then this could have become conflated

00:48:49.860 with flood myths of this period now you're saying oh this is blasphemous to say that other

00:48:55.160 texts got roped into the bible i think that this happens commonly throughout the bible like

00:49:00.180 look at the adam and eve story if you go to sumerian myths a famous sumerian god is created

00:49:08.240 by taking a rib from somebody and a female god is created so that was a sumerian thing

00:49:14.520 this is just well yeah because it's it's a pun that works in sumeria in sumerian

00:49:19.100 the word rib means life um okay it's a very weird thing to do in hebrew if you came up with the

00:49:27.100 story in hebrew why a rib what's the point of a rib why not anything else why not you know like

00:49:32.520 you're saying it's like a pun so they just they're like oh it's pithy well in sumerian tradition it

00:49:38.400 would have made sense it would have been metaphorical it would have been poetic but

00:49:41.800 then another tradition is learning these stories from other groups genuinely ancient beliefs

00:49:47.060 and they see that part and they're like oh this is how women are created in the ancient myth

00:49:53.380 part now what's important in the capturing of these ancient myths like that like you could say

00:49:59.500 oh that's invalidating i take it to be quite the opposite what it shows is that these ancient

00:50:05.240 scholars would copy where they could find the oldest traditions that they were aware of with

00:50:12.840 as much fidelity as they could map them okay yeah yeah yeah and what that says to me is well then

00:50:21.080 it's crazy that these old traditions appear to map with what we actually know from the archaeological

00:50:27.740 record that is crazy i mean that combined with all the the settlements the mapping the settlements

00:50:37.200 the mapping everything like that and keep in mind how we techno puritans believe the bible came

00:50:41.760 together we think that genuine historic groups was genuine myths the the parts of those myths

00:50:48.260 that were the closest god's easiest way to communicate to people what really happened

00:50:53.360 in a way that they could understand and keep in mind here god's talking to a different group he's

00:50:58.640 talking to like scribes during the period of or whatever right you know so he needs to talk with

00:51:05.500 them with his language of floods he needs to talk with them with the language of lists of genealogy

00:51:10.960 which is different than the way he's speaking to people during the creation myths specifically the

00:51:16.420 what is often thought of as the two starting stories of genesis which are often thought of

00:51:21.140 as separate stories i think they probably were originally separate stories but again

00:51:24.340 they all got brought together because they were the closest to true story that there could be

00:51:29.140 now i want to talk about what was just cultural shorthand at the time and the closest they could

00:51:36.040 be described to get to a truth yeah it was the closest way that you could describe to a person

00:51:41.620 of that period okay here's a list of historic events here's a list of cultural groups here's

00:51:47.100 a break and then here's another list of cultural groups by the way here's a map now what i also

00:51:52.600 think is very interesting is this information wouldn't have been particularly useful to people

00:51:58.360 of this period so the question is is why is it kept in the bible right like and the answer is

00:52:06.140 it's because it's a checksum for people of our period okay what i mean by this is it's something

00:52:12.960 that the people who wrote it down couldn't have had a way to check the genetic ancestry of these

00:52:18.640 cultural groups they couldn't have had a way to explore the map to make sure these groups were

00:52:23.760 where the bible said they were it couldn't have had anything close to an ancestral record of the

00:52:30.160 past 10 000 years right but we today do and so it allows us to go back and say

00:52:39.040 does this book seem genuinely divinely inspired or does it not does it match a record in a way

00:52:47.720 that nothing else could okay so it wasn't so much in there for more ancient populations but rather

00:52:57.140 for far further humans who would see it and realize that this book almost impossibly calls

00:53:03.540 shots, or yeah, impossibly calls shots, meaning they should take greater heed of what it's all

00:53:10.360 about. Yeah. And it has the secondary effect of giving and imbuing the chapters with additional

00:53:16.280 meaning, because it's what is being focused on here. It is civilizational innovation and

00:53:22.320 development, which is what, which elucidates for people who can see it, that that is something of

00:53:29.100 critical importance to God in terms of where we should be focusing our efforts and what makes you

00:53:35.080 a favored people in his eyes. I think that we're supposed to basically treat this like a, that's

00:53:41.700 what I was thinking, an ARG, an augmented reality game. But also it's important to note because

00:53:46.260 people of the past wouldn't have been able to find out what these passages mean. It's important

00:53:50.200 that we don't overkey to things that don't seem to make sense to us today. This is why I often say

00:53:56.440 if you get to something that seems like it doesn't make sense, it might be for a different

00:54:01.580 generation. It might just not be for you. It might not be relevant to you or people of your time

00:54:08.280 because we're seeing things here that are just not relevant to some people in the past and their

00:54:12.720 point of time, but was kept with fidelity for tens of thousands of years within this tradition.

00:54:19.000 now i want to talk about a few quotes from these sections so we're going to go over

00:54:22.380 the flood and the cain and abel story and the post-flood narrative because there's a few really

00:54:27.520 important parts here that i didn't notice when i first read it oh okay so here's the most important

00:54:34.100 line i think from the entire cain and abel story because i think it's where god lays out that we

00:54:39.380 are supposed to have emotional control like that is a mandate for humanity

00:54:43.880 then the lord said to cain why are you angry why is your face downcast if you do what is right

00:54:53.660 will you not be accepted but if you do not do right it's right sin is crouching at your door

00:54:59.800 it desires to have you but you must rule over it so this reminds me of something i have told

00:55:07.460 our children so many times something i have told simone as well so many times you have to have

00:55:13.580 emotional control it is absolutely critical to have emotional control when i see one of our kids

00:55:18.680 begin to get angry and begin to work themselves up i sit them down and i'm like why are you angry

00:55:24.420 why is your face downcast right if and typically when they're mad it's because they've been

00:55:29.900 punished or something like that if you do what is right will it not be accepted like i've just

00:55:35.500 scolded one of my kids they then get pouty and they want to lash out at their siblings

00:55:40.160 right anyone who had parents has seen this happen and then you cratch down and you have this

00:55:45.960 conversation with him i didn't notice this conversation ever before when i read the bible

00:55:50.740 because i hadn't had kids yet i hadn't had this exact conversation a hundred times with my kids

00:55:55.520 and i hadn't realized that the point of the story is as much well there's a few core points to it

00:56:02.840 point number one is cain knew he did something bad even before the mosaic tradition was handed down

00:56:10.160 god didn't need to tell him murder is wrong cain immediately tried to deflect from whether or not

00:56:16.860 he murdered somebody okay second the story tells us that we are not talking about a literal chain

00:56:24.940 of descendants here how do we know we're not talking about a literal chain of descendants

00:56:28.500 here because cain's grandson was able to work with bronze and iron now there is no way you can

00:56:37.940 work with any sort of biblical time scale that i'm aware of where that doesn't put bronze and iron

00:56:44.420 way way way way way way way way way way way way before any human should have had bronze and iron

00:56:50.200 from the historical record okay now you could argue that he was a magical person who had bronze

00:56:55.700 and iron right i i guess but it doesn't say he had them because he was magic it just said that

00:57:00.600 he was good at working with them now if you read it the way it appears to want to be read

00:57:05.300 because these are the same kids who are related to the guy who brags about murdering somebody for

00:57:11.540 injuring him which he does and he's like what you know it's kane oh you you get it back seven times

00:57:17.060 for me well you get it back 77 times for me i'm just that violent that maps to the way that 0.58

00:57:23.000 cultures became a more violent during this period which they actually did

00:57:26.720 then then it appears to be about cultures of this period and and who who does that map to

00:57:36.780 what was the first culture of this period that had good bronze and iron working you're talking

00:57:43.320 about groups like the hittites and like the assyrians that were known for being very very

00:57:48.280 violent groups by the way if you're not familiar with this poem this is where he sings this poem 0.93

00:57:52.920 to his two wives ada and zilla listen to me wives of lamech hear my words i have killed a man for

00:57:59.380 wounding me a young man for injuring me if kane is avenged seven times then lamak 77 times and 0.92

00:58:06.560 note here he's not talking about two different people this is just the way they like he says

00:58:12.180 the same thing twice over and over again ada and zilla listen to me wives of lamech hear my words

00:58:16.900 see that the exact same thing listed twice two different ways yeah and then i have i've killed a

00:58:23.520 man for winning me i've killed young men a lot in the old testament though it's super repetitive

00:58:28.920 yeah and then this is one of those things if you don't understand the way it's written if you don't

00:58:36.080 understand that the way flood narratives are used you would think it's talking about a literal

00:58:41.940 actual worldwide flood. If you don't understand this way of writing, you would think that he

00:58:48.340 had killed two people. You wouldn't see that it is very clearly talking about one person who was

00:58:53.440 killed. And this is where not understanding it was in its context can lead to misunderstandings

00:59:00.540 of it. It's still a literalist reading. It's a literalist reading was in the context of the

00:59:05.480 people who wrote it. And note here, is this supposed to be a lesson or something we're

00:59:09.540 supposed to take away? No, it's bad. So then when Peter came to Jesus and asked, Lord, how many times

00:59:15.360 shall I forgive my brother and sister who sins against me? Up to seven times? And Jesus answered

00:59:20.400 him, I tell you not up to seven times, but up to 77 times. So you see here, Jesus is sort of

00:59:25.220 inverting this old way of living. Nice. The other one that I thought was pretty interesting here,

00:59:32.980 verse I wanted to go over, was when human beings began to increase in number on earth and daughters

00:59:37.500 were born to them. Two, the sons of God saw the daughters of humans, were beautiful, and they

00:59:43.840 married any of them they chose. Then the Lord said, my spirit will not contend with humans forever,

00:59:50.140 for they are mortal. Their days will be numbered 120 years. So two really weird things going on

00:59:57.200 here that we need to address. First, who are the sons of God in this context, right? And second,

01:00:06.500 why did god shorten our lifespans to that extent it appears to be to me a bigger punishment than

01:00:15.180 if you take a literalist reading than what was handed out in the garden of eden because i'm

01:00:20.060 gonna be honest i probably don't want to live more than 900 years and if we're dealing with

01:00:24.500 lifespans of like 900 800 years after being kicked out of the garden of eden i'd be like even that

01:00:29.280 seems a little too long for my sake yeah second it creates a problem here if god means for 120

01:00:35.260 years to be the age maximum of humans, which I actually wouldn't mind that as an age maximum

01:00:40.200 of humans as longevity technology improves. Keep us young until we're 120 years old, then off with

01:00:45.800 us. Why do other Christian groups treat that as a max? Why do they regularly attempt to live past

01:00:52.240 that? Why do they say that they're doing something biblical when God is clearly like, it annoys me

01:00:58.760 when humans live longer than this? And the other thing that's really interesting about this is I

01:01:02.480 tried to figure out this word like what does he mean my spirit will not contend with humans living

01:01:08.040 longer than this and unfortunately the verb used there that's literally the only time it's ever

01:01:14.500 used in any ancient hebrew text ever so it's this random orphaned word that people maybe don't know

01:01:20.020 how to properly translate then yeah which word exactly in that sentence the word that like will

01:01:27.300 not contend with contend with it's oh it in context it sounds like he's saying it is like

01:01:36.680 a bad from my perspective or it annoys me when humans live over 120 years i'm going to argue

01:01:42.000 from a techno puritan perspective this makes sense humans need to improve intergenerationally

01:01:46.520 if you look at like how unimproved the boomer generation is despite all the new information 0.97

01:01:51.020 they might have access to at the generation we see this if we look at you know old people stuck 0.86

01:01:55.960 in their ways we see this people appear to get stuck in their traditions and the way that 1.00

01:02:01.800 civilization advances and develops is we get to tell our kids what we believe about the world

01:02:07.000 and then our kids like my dad telling me well we don't we don't believe in any religion i'm like

01:02:11.640 well that doesn't seem to work so let's let's try something else okay but i'm only able to have that

01:02:17.000 split because we get to live sort of this iterative case of intergenerational martyrdom

01:02:24.540 that is allowed through these limited lifespans and again i'll note here it's also pretty crazy

01:02:31.480 that he actually did name about the upper natural limit of the human lifespan here where i doubt

01:02:38.200 they would have known many people who lived to the around the age of 120 yeah anyone in that period

01:02:43.620 so that's that's also spicy there but then the second thing here which becomes even clearer with

01:02:48.080 this next line is the nephilim were on earth in those days and also afterward when the sons of

01:02:52.900 god went to the daughters of humans and had children with them they were the heroes of the

01:02:57.120 old men of renown so this part i i do not like the traditional christian read here they say the sons

01:03:06.220 of god being talked about here are angels or some some part of the heavenly host because in other

01:03:14.700 parts which well i can get to them these same beings are talked about as hanging out with angels

01:03:21.020 Note, another traditional Christian interpretation here, which is used pretty frequently among evangelical communities in the U.S., is that the sons of God are the sons of Seth, and they are talked about as the sons of God, specifically to set them apart from the descendants of Cain.

01:03:39.480 Titan, please.

01:03:40.520 Which kind of makes sense if this exact word wasn't only ever used in other places to mean something that looks like it's in some way involved with the heavenly host.

01:03:50.580 So you've got Job 1, 6. Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before

01:03:56.240 the Lord and Satan also came among them. Job 2, 1. Now that one you could say, well, maybe this is

01:04:02.440 talking about humans, right? Humans coming to God and Satan being among them. A lot of people are

01:04:06.800 like, well, I don't know. I don't know if I like that. The second one here is, again, there was a

01:04:11.200 day when the sons of God came to present themselves to the Lord and Satan also came among him to

01:04:15.060 present themselves to the Lord. A different one here, but about the same thing. When the morning

01:04:18.960 stars sing together and all the sons of God shouted for joy. This is spoken at the moment

01:04:23.780 of the earth creation. Again, a lot of people say, well, how could humans have existed at the

01:04:28.920 moment of the earth creation? Within techno puritanism, you don't get this problem because

01:04:33.800 you would say, well, if predestination exists, it's the people who don't exist yet singing for

01:04:38.620 joy, like because they exist outside of time before their specific period in which they do

01:04:43.960 exist and i sing for joy about the creation of reality i think all humans sing for joy when they

01:04:49.620 when they talk about god creating reality or most humans do you know not buddhists or whatever

01:04:53.060 and so this still works for me humans being here but you can see why other people the problem is

01:04:59.080 is that satan appears to be among the sons of god often then in songs 29 1 you have ascribed to the

01:05:06.600 lord oh sons of god heavenly beings ascribe to the lord god and strengths then songs 89 6 7 for

01:05:13.700 For who in the skies can be comprehended to the Lord, who among the sons of God, heavenly

01:05:18.140 beings, is like the Lord, a God greatly to be feared, and a counsel of the holy ones.

01:05:23.060 So here the sons of God are in the holy ones.

01:05:26.500 And who is awesome to be around him.

01:05:28.040 And then Psalms 29.1, a scribe to the Lord, O sons of God, heavenly beings, a scribe to

01:05:34.460 the Lord, and glorious in strength.

01:05:36.700 And then finally, Psalms 89.6.7, For who in the skies can be compared to the Lord, for

01:05:43.680 among the sons of god heavenly beings is like the lord a god greatly to be feared in the council of

01:05:49.560 holy ones and awesome people all around him or ones all around him now this gets really bad here

01:05:56.460 okay so if these are angels this is clearly and in no uncertain term saying angels at one point

01:06:05.140 had sex with human women and had children yeah that doesn't make sense i don't know no there's

01:06:13.660 like a number of theological reasons i have a problem with that first of all in most traditional 0.91

01:06:19.200 readings in both jewish and catholic readings like if you look at saint augustus on this or

01:06:24.780 you know thomas aquinas on this he said that angels lacked free will except for the ability

01:06:28.720 to choose to be on the the good guy or the evil guy side of things now are these demonic angels

01:06:35.480 fallen ones no that also doesn't seem likely to me because they're still angels and they would

01:06:41.180 still lack free will so why are they getting together with humans and why wouldn't god stop

01:06:45.120 this and the beings that they create become heroes they become good beings right like

01:06:50.680 why would that be the descendant of demonic angel beings and humans right yeah no the traditional

01:06:58.700 read here is that yes they are actually fallen angels and that while the text says that their

01:07:06.240 children become heroes what it really means is more like they gain acclaim and power not that

01:07:13.560 they are good heroes and and this is true this is what's written in the text but it's also very

01:07:18.300 clear that in the text this is not condemned anywhere nor is it explicitly said that they're

01:07:24.320 bad in any context outside of they are talked about right before god decides man has become

01:07:31.940 too wicked but that even even with all of that even if it's demons even if you say their children

01:07:38.000 were also evil it still doesn't sit right with me and note it is nowhere that some people read

01:07:43.700 the nephilim as their children that is definitely not what's said in the text so let's eat it here

01:07:48.760 and say what's being talked about here is not angels and is just humans it's talking about men

01:07:56.860 the sons of God, because God made Adam. Now, in other places, it'll talk about the sons of Adam,

01:08:03.620 which is true. So maybe this type of human is a human that is set apart in some way because of

01:08:11.440 their deeds or moral character or the way God relates to them. We do know that this happens

01:08:16.420 because throughout the Old Testament, God talks about various people in various group as the sons

01:08:20.880 of God. Now, he doesn't use this phrasing. He uses a different phrasing for the sons of God. This

01:08:25.160 phrasing is very unique to this type of being that Satan appears to be among frequently. But

01:08:31.380 given that we know that he does that, I'm okay with eating that and saying what's being talked 0.81

01:08:38.180 about here is not angels or demons having sex with humans. And if you say that, I think this

01:08:45.420 gets really easy. There's no problem here. And then you get the other cool thing, which is it

01:08:48.860 talks about the Nephilim. Now I know very clearly here, it does not say that Nephilim had children

01:08:54.480 with humans a lot of people i've heard say this but if you read the the text in in hebrew that is

01:09:00.240 not what's implied at all it's the sons of god that are having children with humans and the

01:09:04.480 nephilim exists alongside them okay so who are the nephilim yeah remember in our last episode

01:09:14.580 we mentioned that god seemed to there there was homo sapiens around before adam and eve it appears

01:09:21.800 from a number of verses and we say that god just didn't consider these things living beings yet

01:09:26.900 right well now god considers some homo sapiens living beings and some homo sapiens not living

01:09:33.380 beings calling the some he considers living beings the sons of god that sounds believable to me

01:09:42.020 right like that sounds like a good way to differentiate them and then it also talks

01:09:47.240 about another type of thing that's like them living among them nephilim is sometimes translated

01:09:52.200 as fallen one who do i think the nephilim are they are either other hominid species being

01:09:57.500 described here which would be pretty miraculous if that's caught here right without laying out

01:10:02.380 like it doesn't say angels or anything or it's describing the npcs that we talked about in the

01:10:08.580 last track episode um which shows that the sons of god sort of desire this group that's not like

01:10:17.320 the nephilim that is the the daughters of women like a better a better type of mate

01:10:21.580 note the traditional take is that nephilim are some sort of like a giant race or even just a

01:10:28.160 very strong variant of the human race that is larger than other humans this is seen the only

01:10:34.400 other part they're written about israelites canaanite troops and they say that some of them

01:10:38.820 are the descendants of nephilim and look very large in comparison to them it could just be

01:10:44.960 an ethnic group a very large ethnic group from this region as well that no longer exists anymore

01:10:50.380 so i'll go with that but what's cool is if you go with that and you say this group being described

01:10:56.580 here as the sons of god is actually humans then a lot of those other sections that i was reading

01:11:03.760 begin to mean different things any any thoughts before i go further simone

01:11:08.900 well i've just been such a more compelling explanation then also god is really big on

01:11:17.620 playing favorites and having the people he likes and the people he doesn't like and the people he

01:11:21.880 likes replacing the people he doesn't like so that he would have a name for the people he doesn't like

01:11:28.240 and talk about his chosen people as the sons of god yeah so what this would mean is if the sons

01:11:35.080 of god are humans or a subcategory of humans with a special calling a the other lines in which they

01:11:43.300 are mentioned now take on a completely new meaning it means two things it means one satan is in the

01:11:50.920 category of these types of people these sort of prototypes or archetypes of humanity right and

01:11:56.820 lives among them and is often among them which i guess can mean temptation lives uniquely among

01:12:02.960 these groups so they will be uniquely tempted by satan two they are called to account by gods to

01:12:09.760 witness things or to be an outer part of the heavenly host right like you are actually

01:12:16.500 in communication and warriors for god in a very very direct sense in the sense that an angel

01:12:24.840 might be a warrior for god you are a warrior for god right you you have a place among the stars

01:12:31.160 have a place among god through your own actions now i personally find one that to be a very

01:12:38.780 inspiring thing if that's what the bible is saying here and two to any degree that might

01:12:44.320 be sacrilegious it feels less sacrilegious than angels having sex with humans and making babies

01:12:49.860 yeah that to me like at its my heart feels like a grosser thing to say was happening 0.86

01:12:55.760 and god was doing nothing about and these angels were either again are they the good angels are

01:13:01.840 they the bad angels they're the good angels and why are they allowed to do this and if they're

01:13:05.200 the bad angels then why did all their kids turn out good okay next we're going to talk a little

01:13:16.940 bit about some lines from the noah's ark take from you with you seven pairs of every kind of

01:13:23.740 clean animal a male and its mate and one pair of every kind of unclean animal a male and its mate

01:13:29.020 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird and male and female and keep their various part kinds

01:13:35.320 alive throughout the earth now where this gets interesting is if you can't eat animals why are

01:13:42.100 there clean and unclean animals already yeah now i note here you could say well it's for sacrifices

01:13:48.720 or not for sacrifices no but it's super super clear that you're expected to eat the sacrifices

01:13:54.400 yeah in in later parts so like the other thing that's important to note about the various flood

01:14:01.120 locations that people choose when they want to say it was the black sea flood or it was the

01:14:05.440 mediterranean flood is the flood is described as coming with long periods of rain which do not

01:14:12.380 describe those floods that much more describes a river basin flood i know because i live on a

01:14:18.020 river basin that floods and it's really terrifying oh yeah so that again would say that the river

01:14:22.700 basin flood theory is the most accurate in terms of the specific real human event that's being

01:14:28.040 remembered here the other thing about the flood that i mentioned before is at the end god says

01:14:33.560 he's not going to do it anymore but there's something i i noted here which i did maybe go

01:14:39.220 because i didn't catch this the first time i read this okay as long as the earth endures

01:14:44.580 seed time and harvest cold and heat summer and winter day and night will never cease so this

01:14:50.800 sounds like a great promise right except it has a qualifier okay as long as the earth endures

01:15:01.300 so he's saying unsettling what do you mean okay i was like well one day the earth will be swallowed

01:15:10.740 by the sun is it saying somehow we're destined to prevent that one day the earth could be hit

01:15:15.700 by an asteroid and destroy it is it saying we're destined to prevent that and the answer here is

01:15:20.700 no it's not a promise that we're destined to prevent that it leaves a giant qualifier

01:15:26.060 protecting the earth itself is on you humanity we need to get off planet can we get off no

01:15:34.960 i don't know i don't like space this is tough okay carry on yeah so that's that's also

01:15:42.460 also i'll note here that the bible clearly lays out in this part that it believes that humans

01:15:48.100 are born evil right for the people who are like humans are born good or humans born evil

01:15:52.500 never again will i curse the ground because of humans even though every inclination of the human

01:15:57.640 heart is evil from childhood and again never will i destroy all living creatures as i have done

01:16:02.560 so no again that has a qualifier never again will i destroy all living creatures

01:16:09.160 as i have done through a flood he's still allowed to through other means this is where you get the

01:16:15.680 the fires at the end of time and stuff like that a lot of people talk about but i think

01:16:19.080 that the the fires at the end of time are what we're fighting right now which is the bonfire

01:16:23.180 of people's own vanity that they are tossing themselves into the trial of the lotus eaters

01:16:29.700 as you might otherwise call it and note here god may have in this early flood killed all living

01:16:38.600 beings even though he didn't flood the entire earth so let's let's talk about this what you

01:16:45.160 could argue is if the number of what god considered to be living beings was very small during this

01:16:51.580 period which might be the case given the qualifications for what counted as humans

01:16:56.500 that we laid out in the last track that you have to be willing and capable of taking moral

01:17:00.720 accountability well not willing but capable of taking moral accountability for your actions

01:17:03.860 it could be that in even a fairly small regional flood everyone but one family lied died that had

01:17:12.200 that ability without wiping out every human on earth still have the story to be in form true now

01:17:18.800 note the story does say it wiped out all animals there's just no way that's possible so we have to

01:17:23.980 assume that the story was being used as a footnote in the way it is in other sumerian texts but also

01:17:28.440 about a real event next year this is something i didn't know do you know what is the sign of

01:17:36.600 the covenant between god and humans the stone plate that goes no i'll give you a hint it's been

01:17:47.260 that's not the sign he was very clear about what the sign was burning bush rainbows

01:17:55.660 rainbows are supposed to be the sign of the covenant and it is interesting that

01:18:01.660 There was the column of the cloud, the column of the cloud that tells you where the arc you're supposed to go.

01:18:07.940 That sign has been so aggressively co-opted that many Christians today flinch at the sign of a rainbow.

01:18:17.420 And yet God said.

01:18:18.680 Where does it say the rainbow is the sign of the covenant?

01:18:22.400 I'll read it right now.

01:18:23.660 And God said, this is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you.

01:18:29.120 A covenant for generations to come.

01:18:30.760 I have set my rainbow in the clouds and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the

01:18:35.460 earth. Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will remember

01:18:40.660 my covenant between you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become

01:18:46.400 a flood to destroy all life. Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember

01:18:52.600 the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.

01:18:57.280 oh so the covenant of no more floods i super duper promise that covenant yes so god said to

01:19:03.180 noah this is a sign of the covenant i have established between me and all life on earth

01:19:07.920 okay then i won't flood you again covenant if the throwing yourself into the bonfire of

01:19:15.200 your own vanity is done under the sign of a rainbow i think that has a degree of poetic justice

01:19:22.280 dude okay right wow wow wow another thing i didn't know is you know that be fruitful

01:19:31.440 and multiply comes twice right there's i've heard it a couple times yeah yeah it's a command well

01:19:38.680 it might come more than twice but it's a commandment that's like over and over and

01:19:42.000 over again as something you're supposed to do yeah it just seems like a go for it kid you know

01:19:46.400 it's not your job is to expand god is very expansionist if he likes you if not he wishes

01:19:55.400 demographic collapse on you and he will replace you with his favorite people because he talks

01:20:00.520 about that it seems memory serves and just to get an idea of how crazy all this is when you piece

01:20:12.700 it together is if you're willing to say the flood was an artistic convention while being a real

01:20:19.740 event just not as big of an event as it's made out to be because in the artistic convention you

01:20:24.140 always made everything bigger and more dramatic then what that allows you to have like what do

01:20:29.380 you get out of this if you say that that was an artistic convention and that this is a checksum

01:20:34.500 describing real places real maps and not meant to be read it's meant to be read literally but not in

01:20:41.640 the lazy literative way right what do you get out of that you get a map and a genealogy that goes

01:20:48.500 impossibly far back in time and covers an impossibly large geography for a group of that period

01:20:53.920 especially a nobody group of that period which is what these people were at that time when you

01:20:59.460 compare it to like the ancient greek like historians like if you read herodotus his like

01:21:05.000 he actually went out there and tried to map the entire world yeah and he's all over the place he's

01:21:09.780 making stuff up he's and stories are like actually laughable compared to these right

01:21:16.120 let me you make a really good point for people to be like well it's 20 years off or it's how many

01:21:19.960 even hundreds of years off compared to herodotus history which we still i'm not even talking about

01:21:25.400 things being off now i'm talking about the genealogy and map then in addition to the

01:21:29.660 genealogy and map you get a impossibly accurate timeline of tens of thousands of years of history

01:21:38.280 dated in a way where you can't easily move fudge or play with the timeline

01:21:43.480 and you also get an explanation of a civilization of the civilization of the ziggurats early

01:21:52.900 civilization that they couldn't have understood during that period and transitions in what it

01:21:58.440 meant to be human but it all comes back to one thing if these were the important things to take

01:22:05.460 away from this chapter of genesis what it means is all of the important meat in genesis all of the

01:22:14.960 3d image that comes out from looking at it the right way are about humanity civilizationally

01:22:23.540 developing that appears to be what the story is critically interested in yeah so very much

01:22:31.060 an extension but from a civilizational standpoint of the evolution described in the beginning yes

01:22:38.220 that's super yeah i mean it now it makes sense when you put it that way now i'm not like glazing

01:22:45.560 my eyes over when thinking about that section for sure yeah and what that means is god is a god as

01:22:53.440 we sort of laid out in the last video of the civilized world of being a civilized human he

01:23:00.160 is not a civilization that that that addresses the inherent sin within a human yes exactly and

01:23:07.040 allows us to address that and he he he is he is not a god of the savage right and he doesn't

01:23:14.800 consider those living beings oh and he really hates the gods of the savages as well because

01:23:20.780 they have gods yes he's the god of civilization he you know the whole like you know a man shall

01:23:26.580 not pass his seed through the fire to moloch like all of this he's like no we don't do child

01:23:30.640 sacrifice we don't do all these like there are other gods and i was also really confused when i

01:23:34.660 first read the old testament because i'm like wait what do you mean what is how is monotheism you

01:23:39.660 can't have god you know acknowledging the existence of other gods like this is this is so screwed up

01:23:44.600 but in the context of all this and in the context of this being the god of civilization of advancement

01:23:50.300 of humans rising above our most basic violent horrible instincts yeah i mean yeah these these

01:23:57.680 other humans are capable of having gods they're not they're not good and i'll note that the

01:24:02.520 punishments handed to adam and eve as a result of choosing this way of living actually work with it

01:24:10.800 the amount of labor that you have to do in a civilized society in a in a uh society where

01:24:15.740 oh yeah well if you wanted to the sapiens argument you know also it was god who introduced

01:24:20.680 agriculture which whatever his name is therefore introduced oh that's when everything got so hard

01:24:26.260 and why why does childbirth hurt for human women when it doesn't hurt for any other mammal species

01:24:33.120 it's really weird babies what it's because we have very large brained babies and because we

01:24:38.060 walk upright but i think the large brain part is more important we have the use of our hands

01:24:41.880 because we walk up right in large brains these are part of having this agency right so it's

01:24:48.740 literally describing punishments that the people of this period wouldn't have been particularly

01:24:54.300 aware of civilization to a great extent and i guess greater human intelligence the neanderthals 0.92

01:24:59.480 had giant heads so i don't know about that yeah well sorry i mean hominids right like neanderthals 0.69

01:25:06.280 appear to have some degree of intelligence they just never formed a civilization in the way that 0.96

01:25:09.220 we did so what i encourage people to do because i skipped over a lot of my findings here i have a

01:25:14.960 lot laid out here it's just to the way fable writes i'm gonna have to go over it with another

01:25:20.720 ai and rewrite it all just is so ai-ish i don't like it god has a very ai voice grok has to me

01:25:29.340 the most natural sounding voice i don't know if you're it does so what i'd probably do is rewrite

01:25:34.340 it with grok that said the the layout of the findings that we got here genuinely astonished 0.71

01:25:42.480 me like i did not think it would be as easy as let's just take that stupid timeline that people

01:25:49.980 have tried to you know put all of her history into and just paste it to the first stable city 0.64

01:25:58.080 we're aware of and then it fits in like nine different points to the archaeological record

01:26:03.340 yeah like a little lego chunk and then let's take the other story and just reverse paste it

01:26:10.860 onto events that we're aware of and again it just fits like a lego chunk like ka-chink

01:26:16.960 it's not even like hard like it was like baby's first arg that's what i was thinking an arg an

01:26:22.020 augmented reality game and it also surprises me and i don't know what to think of this

01:26:27.100 is that other people haven't said people can correct me if other people have gotten parts

01:26:31.100 of this before that this isn't something that's like more widely talked about or a widely read

01:26:37.060 way of reading the bible is coming at it and being like no the bible's not going to have stuff in it

01:26:42.340 that means literally nothing but it's also not going to contradict what we are aware of in the

01:26:46.660 archaeological record so when i say like like big things like the people who were doing these

01:26:53.040 archaeologies i'm not talking about like modern academics or whatever i'm talking about like

01:26:57.380 when every archaeologist was a christian and we you know could trust everything it still wildly

01:27:03.280 contradicts the archaeological record to say something like copper and iron were within like

01:27:09.440 three generations of the first humans like that that doesn't that's not plausible and i'm not

01:27:14.700 gonna i'm not gonna buy something that's not plausible because then i try to tell this to my

01:27:19.340 kids and they'll just leave the religion right so i have to look and say oh but when i look and say

01:27:24.520 oh my god like this fits both the archaeological record inhumanly exactly why not just accept that

01:27:30.500 right like well i have to wonder if perhaps this is because the first wave of biblical literists

01:27:37.960 trying literalists trying to reconcile the bible with technology did so at a time when a lot of

01:27:45.380 technology was coming online and we had a lot of the abilities to disprove some of the previous

01:27:49.820 interpretations but not enough information to to go all the way and prove how actually it is

01:27:56.300 accurate like they're they were in this middle ground and then it kind of solidified as a

01:28:01.840 tradition so much so that then there was almost this separate folk interpretation of the bible

01:28:07.860 where you had to start throwing out big swaths of the archaeological record and our understanding

01:28:13.340 of evolution and all these other things because they they didn't want to revisit it they just

01:28:19.100 figured that digging deeper would lead to less proof of biblical literalism rather than more

01:28:24.640 that's that's kind of my guess because i think there's a lot of stuff as you pointed out

01:28:29.560 that was only found relatively recently yeah and it has only become easier to actually draw

01:28:35.840 all these connections just within the past even three months with ai as it stands now

01:28:42.860 to be able to say, well, can you cross-reference all these things and these historical events and

01:28:47.520 these references in the Bible? That's not an easy thing to do. Yeah. And I mean, you can have

01:28:53.880 biblical scholars working for a long time, and they have, but have they worked on this for such

01:28:59.180 a long time with also the archaeological record and understanding of biology and historical

01:29:04.160 geology and all these other factors been as advanced? No, I don't think so.

01:29:09.120 And note here, I want to take an aside here and, you know, tell people this is not like normal Bible math. This isn't like I take numbers from the Bible and I assume they're supposed to be something totally different or I move them around and I add a number here and I add a number here.

01:29:28.300 we are working with what the bible appears to be talking about early human civilization

01:29:33.700 and just copying and pasting the numbers and what it says about the individuals within those numbers

01:29:40.520 because it it will say x person lived at this time and they did x and then be like okay so it

01:29:45.560 said that they were like a very godly people let's see if there's anything unique about this

01:29:49.340 civilization oh they were known for making lots of statues of their deities right like that's

01:29:54.120 that's an interesting thing to note there um it's not like the maximum sort of stretching you get

01:30:00.360 when you're trying to match other things in history which i really don't like this is just

01:30:04.800 simple copy and paste in a way that genuinely shouldn't work if without some help somewhere

01:30:12.220 along the way i know i appreciate that because i think when people try to fudge it and again i

01:30:18.080 I had watched that super long takedown by that primatologist about the creation museum in the

01:30:24.600 United States. What really bothered her as a primatologist who understood evolution,

01:30:29.520 all these other things was just how blatant, blatantly ignored many things were and how things

01:30:35.760 were just conveniently left out. And when you do that, when you fudge it, you are going to

01:30:40.840 hemorrhage faithful people. Like you can't both be like, it's super real, but then leave out really

01:30:47.300 conspicuous things because if someone values reality they're going to catch that if they

01:30:53.400 don't value reality they don't need you to prove it anyway they'll go on the faith of it all

01:30:57.280 and so yeah it's the worst possible approach to this and i i love i love this approach to

01:31:03.400 biblical literalism the techno puritan religion makes so much sense and it's so funny because

01:31:08.040 we were just at first like i don't know i think it would be a good idea for us to have a hard

01:31:12.180 religion let's just like let's read the bible and see if it has anything interesting oh my god

01:31:18.540 oh my god this makes it like as a person who has read herodotus because i like herodotus

01:31:23.600 when i got to that point in genesis i was like what the what the what the is this this map is

01:31:31.100 insane like this history is insane they shouldn't have this this makes herodotus look like a toddler

01:31:39.080 and it's just like dropped here and what everyone just had that the bible lacks was a sense of humor

01:31:45.360 okay and every time previously that i read it it's like i just skipped those parts because it

01:31:51.380 seemed boring to me and i think you know how it says like god hardens people's hearts i think he

01:31:56.620 does that for certain groups over long periods of time and certain people that prevent them from

01:32:00.340 seeing obvious things like this because they're not meant to see it or maybe it's supposed to come

01:32:05.420 together all at once on this podcast i i don't know right like well god plays favorites i know

01:32:11.140 that it's maybe seeing something like this is meant to affirm some of the other weird things

01:32:17.220 in terms of our interpretation of the bible for people who otherwise haven't seen stuff like this

01:32:22.100 or or this isn't a popular theory among their communities because it makes a lot of sense to

01:32:26.280 them maybe that's the way it's supposed to work and that's why people's minds were we're sort of

01:32:29.880 hardened to seeing something that as soon as i read it seemed fairly obvious it seemed as obvious

01:32:35.720 as you know when you open like a lord of the rings book or something and there's like a map at the

01:32:40.800 beginning of it yeah it really felt like opening genesis and it's like what why is the map section

01:32:46.080 i don't remember a map being here this is the elves and the orcs and the dwarves and they live

01:32:53.520 in this form so if you guys want to see these these do check out the page if anybody wants to

01:33:00.420 undertake the project of rewriting it in human language please undertake that project i don't

01:33:05.140 want to deal with it no m dashes or semicolons allowed no i really resist that i resent that

01:33:09.680 so deeply no no it just sounds obnoxiously ai yeah but it was it goes way deeper so you get to

01:33:16.700 actually see the civilizations develop in images and in descriptions of the way they lived of the

01:33:25.740 people that are being laid out here in genesis if my interpretation of this is correct and what that

01:33:32.220 it basically like fills in an entire chapter of genesis that you're supposed to decipher through

01:33:38.620 ciphers fairly easy ciphers i might add what do you mean fairly oh just how like just connect

01:33:47.040 the dots then yeah it's just freaking fable like the best smartest model that we've had access to

01:33:54.400 so far come on man be a little more humbled by the technology but aren't you pretty amazed by

01:34:02.140 this the map the timeline the i'm very i'm very amazed by it i'm this was way more impressive

01:34:08.100 than i thought it would be and this was me going into it with so much humorous because where things

01:34:12.660 have like come out in the past have been you know the bible's probably true like that would further

01:34:18.220 affirm my face this time i just went into it and i was like no the bible is true and therefore this

01:34:23.720 means something and therefore if i pop it on a map it's going to do something and it did for three

01:34:31.540 different data sets which shocked me yeah i was like well shit i guess i guess this is true i

01:34:40.580 guess this is real and not just real but this way of interpreting it is the correct way of 0.78

01:34:45.280 interpreting it what do you want to call our way of interpreting it because it's a special type of

01:34:49.160 literalism real biblical literalism non-cope biblical literalism based biblical literalism

01:34:59.480 i guess i guess i'd call it deep literalism to contrast it with surface literalism oh i like

01:35:04.520 deep literalism that sounds good yeah every story actually means something more than just a an

01:35:12.520 allegory unless it's like an obvious allegory but what that is won't always be transparent

01:35:19.000 from the surface level reading of the story anyway love you simone and this was a lot of

01:35:25.160 lot of fun i hope for you this was absolutely fascinating i mean i'm really looking forward

01:35:29.480 to going back and does that wait did you get this the genesis ledger you put this on oh yeah

01:35:35.320 techno puritan oh okay so this is on the website it's on the website dot com slash genesis five

01:35:42.560 why genesis five because that's what i was looking at when i first built it was let's go into genesis

01:35:47.800 five okay okay what this could map to well all right nerds go to techno puritan.com slash genesis

01:35:54.460 five and the other thing that i think is going to surprise a lot of christians and jews because i

01:36:00.300 was unaware of this is the location that's being talked about from the very beginning of the out

01:36:07.180 of an eve story the the mouse waters of the tigers and the euphrates all the way to the story of

01:36:12.160 abraham is within like a 20 minute drive of each other like oh yeah because you did this little

01:36:18.660 tour i'm not sorry this man oh sorry all right well it's also nowhere near israel that also

01:36:28.140 surprised me wait so how far did you need to drive from israel to go on that that whole tour

01:36:32.500 oh no no i didn't go to this region this isn't this is a different region this is this region

01:36:40.000 is in like southern turkey yeah oh turkey but that all of this now still the descendants of

01:36:47.400 the jewish people are one of them but it's a region that also makes more sense of your fanning

01:36:52.980 culture out into ancient greece into you know ancient europe and into ancient israel at around

01:36:59.120 the same time because they would have received if you're assuming a true eve the genetics or

01:37:05.240 cultural pollination from this region around the time the actual kingdom of israel did which would

01:37:12.160 explain why you see things like ancient athens take off before ancient israel because they were

01:37:18.240 genuinely closer to that part of the world's genetic stock in terms of migration patterns

01:37:24.860 and stuff like that which is also really fascinating and i i was surprised to see that as

01:37:29.560 well it's totally reframed so much of genesis for me and i hope you guys have fun more deep

01:37:34.560 literalism episodes this is really fun if you do i can just keep going through and trying to figure

01:37:40.660 out what's going on okay yeah i think that'd be really interesting and it also going through this

01:37:47.760 disgusts me more with strict surface level literalists because now i'm reminded of stuff

01:37:55.480 that they believe that is super sacrilegious from my perspective like we're having sex with people 0.96

01:38:01.780 and oh yeah yeah come on guys like that to me just sounds like straight sacrilege right like

01:38:08.200 that completely changes the nature of what an angel is what god's relationship to angels are

01:38:15.400 what this celestial host is and i don't i don't like that you know i don't like it

01:38:21.740 perverting the bible with their sexual fantasies yeah i mean obviously not probably not all 0.96

01:38:29.500 literalists you guys can tell me who are literalists do you believe that angels had sex with 0.81

01:38:33.840 people and they had kids together and is any of that dna still in humanity because it doesn't say

01:38:38.780 that no is not from one of these genetic lines so we can't really rule it out if you believe that

01:38:43.980 yeah i don't know i'm very curious to see the comments on this it also and i will note here

01:38:49.720 doesn't lay this out as like a bad thing it's not like god got mad at them for doing this

01:38:55.060 not explicitly anywhere i mean you can you can say well he did send the flood in afterwards

01:38:59.720 but it said he did that because of their level of wickedness not because of the interbreeding thing

01:39:04.100 he appeared to be fine with that if you believe that's what was happening

01:39:07.140 we don't we think it's just talking about humans or a certain subsect of humans that's right with

01:39:11.500 god in the same way that jesus is set apart as the son of god which i i like that interpretation

01:39:17.800 a lot more yeah i do too all right bye oh for dinner tonight what are we doing what's easy for

01:39:26.200 you steak so the steak is pretty still frozen solid i i okay we could do queso or quesadillas

01:39:33.100 let's do some queso don't think we can make a larger batch and uh yeah i mean like and also

01:39:39.600 leftover queso with some chips and steak sounds like we were saying previously pretty pretty good

01:39:46.180 yeah okay okay so it is friend we will we will do that oh have you been using butter in your

01:39:52.620 queso yeah it's from a roux great great great butter is the base of a roux yeah i thank you

01:40:00.580 for your cooking knowledge simone that was my mom thanks mom and your kids will know if you

01:40:07.860 take the time to teach them i do i love doing cooking lessons with them when they'll stop

01:40:12.620 running around now do you want to try to do a weekend episode or do you want to just go ahead

01:40:16.820 early i would really like to get a bit early let's go a bit early yeah i'll get this episode

01:40:21.300 ready for tomorrow i got i thought this episode was so fun so and this is the first time that

01:40:25.980 we've had uh made a companion website well you that you made a companion a whole companion

01:40:31.140 website talk about show notes to a next level it's so yeah if you haven't checked out the

01:40:35.420 techno puritan website in a while it's gotten a total overhaul and it's really nice it looks

01:40:39.820 yeah it's got pizzazz now i was the one that shocked me was in previous episodes i had laid

01:40:46.020 out that i i thought that whatever it was called that totally a tefki was what was being talked

01:40:52.580 about in eden and that really shocked me and then again to be double shocked with snakes being the

01:40:58.280 number one snakes oh my gosh yeah they're just of all the things it could be snakes of everything

01:41:05.400 yeah it had to why does it have to be snakes yeah right i gotta put that in that was so

01:41:13.000 affirming for me as like no no no this isn't coincidence at this point because we're predicting

01:41:19.920 future coincidences you can't predict future coincidences with this degree of accuracy right

01:41:25.260 it can't keep being more and more and more things that affirm this interpretation

01:41:30.020 Going back to some of your earliest discussions of techno-Puritanism and prophets, you call shot calling sort of the key, the key designator of a prophet.

01:41:42.920 You know, it could be that a key designator of a prophetic script to document whatever you want to call it.

01:41:49.720 Text is its ability to call shots or to accurately model.

01:41:54.300 Yeah, we argue that's the entire thing that affirms the text.

01:41:57.320 Yeah.

01:41:57.840 well that and and and its effect on the groups that follow it yeah like if people who follow

01:42:05.160 with i really believe in about your fruits you'll know them if people who follow a thing

01:42:08.980 end up living worse lives it is a bad tradition and not true and not a source of of truth but

01:42:17.540 very weird to have become this religious this quick yeah yeah who would have thunk it malcolm

01:42:23.060 collins but it's also put me in a very interesting perspective because it makes me significantly less

01:42:29.540 tolerant of specific things where i used to be able to say of religious people well we just

01:42:34.520 disagree and now i'm like you're like no this isn't what the text says and yeah i know like

01:42:41.920 when you were reading the old testament and you came to me and you go malcolm there are a lot

01:42:47.020 of prohibitions against worshiping to worshiping next to worshiping in a carved stone why aren't

01:42:54.880 people following those like you're like the the rulings against iconoclasm seem to be way bigger

01:43:02.680 way yeah idol worship all that yeah it's way more aggressive than you had remembered and i'm like i

01:43:08.860 just can't lie down on that right now it makes a lot more sense when you compare that to the idol

01:43:15.380 worship of what you could call uncivilized religions that do things like practice incredible

01:43:22.920 violence all those other things like idol worship is kind of iconic in all of them and

01:43:28.000 yeah i could i could see i could i could see the reasoning the logic behind being like no

01:43:35.940 we're not doing that this this is a this is different okay yeah well i mean it also if you

01:43:41.980 look at the regions where there are denominations of christianity where idols are worshipped the

01:43:46.920 regions are typically less prosperous more corrupt more you know it's it's not good don't make me

01:43:52.820 reset the counter don't let's not go there i didn't i i'm also talking about orthodox regions

01:43:57.120 i'm also talking about orthodox regions okay okay thank you yes you know it's it's not good

01:44:02.780 like the i like i think all these commandments were given to us to to to help us right you know

01:44:07.640 that's the cool thing about them absolutely no i i have such a strong i mean i always had such a

01:44:13.980 strong visceral negative reaction to idol worship weirdly in every religious context where i've seen

01:44:19.620 it shinto buddhist christian it it really bothers me but that's always been intuitive in the past

01:44:26.380 so you're never gonna have trouble convincing me that idol worship is is not cool but anyway okay

01:44:32.500 i'm gonna go make case up for you using the cheeses and why did anybody tell me the bible

01:44:36.900 made so much sense why because they were dude because they were coping and gaslighting when

01:44:42.500 they were trying to be like no it's all proven scientifically and and they were otherwise just

01:44:47.500 going la la la la la la when it came to science like we we have the resources now that were just

01:44:53.960 didn't exist in the past that's what i think but i could also imagine that there will be people

01:44:57.980 just like with your last episode your last track episode you chime in in the comments you're like

01:45:02.360 oh yeah rabbi so-and-so totally saw this too and you know this person wrote a book about it and

01:45:08.080 things like that so i i wouldn't be surprised if other people have at least seen part of this

01:45:13.480 anyway off i go yeah off you go love you bye

01:45:17.500 yeah and if it's light enough to walk out here with

01:45:31.520 But also, you're welcome to borrow anything from our toolshed.

01:45:36.920 Oh, well, let's go home then, because I need to make dinner.

01:45:42.920 It might be a snake.

01:45:44.920 A snake.

01:45:45.920 Okay.

01:45:46.920 Water.

01:45:47.920 Well, a water snake?

01:45:48.920 I think so.

Based Camp - August 12, 2026

Genesis’ “Random” Numbers Map Directly to 10,000 Years (Unique Discovery)

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