Based Camp - US Indian Women Suffer High Rates of __ (The Why is Hidden)

00:00:00.000 Yeah, so there's this movement called M-M-I-W-S-G-2-S.

00:00:05.060 Q-M-M-I-W-G-2.

00:00:08.700 It stands for... 0.97

00:00:10.060 They provided zero dollars to deal with the ongoing genocide of M-M-I-W-G-2-S-L-G-B-T-Q-Q-I-A+.

00:00:18.440 So according to organizations like the Coalition to Stop Violence Against Native Women,

00:00:23.980 violence against Native women and children is primarily framed as a legacy of Spanish and

00:00:30.220 Euro-American invasion, settler colonialism, and continuing structural forces such as anti-Indigenous

00:00:37.160 racism, border town violence, police brutality, and failures within the judicial system.

00:00:44.180 Wow, that sounds really bad. Is it true? I thought that, broadly speaking, most acts of violence

00:00:50.840 were you know like like murder were committed by by people with whom the victim is close right like

00:00:57.300 is that generally the that is generally true yes okay so let's okay let's figure out what's

00:01:02.740 happening then if if white colonialism is causing missing and murdered indigenous women and girls

00:01:08.500 and two-spirit people let's find out what's going on would you like to know more hello Malcolm I'm

00:01:14.900 so excited to be speaking with you today because i have been gaslit about american indians and i

00:01:22.440 am angry i i the young lady who is obsessed with sacajawea as a kid and wrote big school reports

00:01:29.960 on her i dressed up as her though of course that would get me in trouble now and i collected those

00:01:34.900 golden sacajawea coins i don't know if you remember these and i spent hours as a kid and teen

00:01:42.440 sitting next to bedrock mortars created by the nation on people on the american river just

00:01:48.500 thinking you know in reference about these amazing peaceful people just grinding you know food in

00:01:53.960 these really cool mortars little did i know how much i'd been gaslit about american indians i

00:01:59.620 didn't know that by some accounts 96 percent of american indian tribes had engaged in warfare

00:02:05.200 and that 85 percent of american tribes either conducted or actively resisted raids at least

00:02:11.140 once a year at least once a year by other tribes yes on other tribes wait wasn't like could you

00:02:17.720 we just tried the one where they would kill people by peeling off their skin using clamshells

00:02:23.240 that before but i was like oh it's it's you know adult colonists who cares right like

00:02:28.400 there was an invasion of children uh-oh yeah but i guess you know i hadn't read the account of

00:02:34.200 rachel rachel parker plumber who was captured by comanche indians while pregnant and if you

00:02:39.660 want to figure out what happened to her and her infant. The point is, it's not just a Comanche.

00:02:44.420 Do you see this across like extremely brutal behavior? And you can understand why. I mean, 0.98

00:02:49.160 it's a very simple thing. And one, I mean, almost all primitive cultures, regardless of where they

00:02:53.260 are, have engaged in violent writing and behavior. Like this is just a lot of it comes down to a lack

00:02:57.540 of civilization that we're like refusing to talk about here. But also, I mean, in the end, if you

00:03:04.100 have an environment a continent in which there are raiding and violent tribes that steal resources

00:03:09.820 from other tribes by killing and stealing and then you have the peaceful ones well after a

00:03:14.920 certain number of decades the peaceful ones are going to be dead and the ones who fight back and

00:03:20.720 are also violent and can defend themselves are going to survive you know limping forward so

00:03:26.400 but the thing is is it's it's different where in europe you were able to build full-scale

00:03:30.900 civilization that was able to defend itself and was large enough to the point where your average

00:03:35.340 person didn't yearly live with the risk. No, civilization is the bulwark that shifts humans

00:03:41.540 from animals into humans. They're the thing that prevents us from devolving into violence.

00:03:47.760 But what I was most excited about following here was you're in...

00:03:51.100 No, no, no. Malcolm, I told you not to interrupt me, and you are.

00:03:53.920 Okay, okay.

00:03:54.220 So you just got to keep your mouth shut because I still have to... This is so disturbing to you.

00:03:57.960 You have to understand, Malcolm, I'm like so steamed about this because, you know, like I mentioned, I was super into Sacagawea as a kid.

00:04:04.460 I didn't know, despite doing an entire school report on her in the 1990s, that by the time that Lewis and Clark met Sacagawea in 1804, do you know how old she was?

00:04:15.660 How?

00:04:16.780 She was 16 years old.

00:04:18.340 You know, the one with the baby on her back.

00:04:20.380 And she was only one of the wives of this French-Canadian fur trapper.

00:04:25.480 one of his wives who had purchased her from a tribe that had captured her that likely at the

00:04:33.620 time they captured her because she was shoshone and she was taken by the hidatsa people apparently 0.62

00:04:38.880 as a kid they probably killed her parents and then they sold her to sex slavery to some like

00:04:44.060 french canadian trapper who had multiple women and so here's she basically she's a trafficked woman

00:04:50.280 who's been put on a gold coin and it was like oh lovely woman lovely she died at like age age 24

00:04:56.280 approximately of course no one else i didn't know that either so here's this woman who's like oh

00:05:00.740 yes native americans are so wonderful oh you know oh yes of course the the trafficked slave

00:05:06.240 love it love it for her i i thought she was some adult mother traffic by by the way native american

00:05:15.720 tried you captured her just just just in case people are wondering the guy who was engaged in

00:05:22.160 sex slavery and owned her was can you guess what religion oh god was he catholic he's catholic

00:05:28.960 welcome i have to reset my hours since malcolm's last catholic anti-catholic scree fantastic of

00:05:36.660 course i just needed to check i was like would my people engage in that practice i don't think so

00:05:41.120 no they would just like marry the ones that they thought were chill they didn't have to buy them

00:05:45.420 Okay. But like, look, look, well, honestly though, like I didn't know all of these things

00:05:51.060 had happened to Sacagawea because I had used library books in the nineties before the internet

00:05:57.400 was accessible to me to learn about her. And some people, I wonder who were just systematically just

00:06:04.380 erasing all the inconvenient parts of her upbringing and childhood. Well, I guess still

00:06:11.540 child but because i didn't know she was 16 freaking years old when all this was happening

00:06:15.420 she's a she's a teenager and we demonize jeffrey epstein for tempting young girls with money to do 0.98

00:06:21.580 disgusting things but when american indians kidnap girls kill their parents and sell them

00:06:25.080 into sex slavery oh it's just a different time they were mostly peaceful people and i reckon 0.96

00:06:30.120 that we say that we're all pretty glad that jeffrey epstein is dead but when people talk

00:06:34.980 about the erasure of Native American culture, oh, it's a tragedy. And I can't tell you about what

00:06:42.120 American Indians did historically, because I tried to do it in another episode, and I just started

00:06:46.740 ugly crying. And I'm not doing that again, because I don't want, there's too much of that already. 1.00

00:06:52.160 And so what I can tell you about is that it's possible that we are actively being lied to

00:06:57.360 about American Indians now, not just historically. And so because I'm pissed at American Indian 1.00

00:07:03.460 culture and the damage it may still be doing to this day i'm coming for it to two people of native 0.94

00:07:09.380 american descent mind you it yeah yes yeah exactly this is a that that this is being covered up the

00:07:16.980 number one group that is suffering for it today is native americans the number one victim of the

00:07:23.780 brutality of native american because we because we are we are refusing to say that this is a 0.71

00:07:29.140 a primitive culture that we have not allowed to evolve into a civilized culture that is allowing

00:07:34.080 people to be abused and hurt. Yeah. So there's this movement called MMIWSG2S.

00:07:52.380 It stands for missing and murdered indigenous women, girls, and two-spirit people. 0.98

00:07:58.060 And I didn't even know it existed until Holy Ball made a song called MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+. 1.00

00:08:10.700 It's a good song.

00:08:12.300 I love that song. 0.90

00:08:13.220 They provided $0 to deal with the ongoing genocide of MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+.

00:08:21.520 I was confused to this whole addendum that had been put on the front of the alphabet. 0.98

00:08:30.380 And then, actually, when I was trying to search for the Holy Ball song on YouTube, some other songs from the MMIWG2S movement came up, like about missing, murdered Indigenous women and girls, etc.

00:08:46.000 So according to organizations like the Coalition to Stop Violence Against Native Women, violence against Native women and children is primarily framed as a legacy of Spanish and Euro-American invasion, settler colonialism, and continuing structural forces such as anti-Indigenous racism, border town violence, police brutality, and failures within the judicial system.

00:09:10.680 wow that sounds really bad is it true i thought that probably speaking most acts of violence were

00:09:18.140 you know like like murder were committed by by people with whom the victim is close right like

00:09:24.320 is that generally the that is generally true yes okay so let's okay let's figure out what's

00:09:29.760 happening then if if white colonialism is causing missing and murdered indigenous women and girls

00:09:35.520 and two spirit people let's find out what's going on so this is like if you compared the like

00:09:42.400 grape rates of like black women or like murder rates of black women and then try to frame it in

00:09:47.260 a way that it's like it's white people doing this to them when like everyone would be like

00:09:51.480 i don't think it is actually there was the great chart that looked at directional grape rates yeah

00:09:58.280 that's been trending recently yeah yeah no interracial interracial rates and it showed the

00:10:04.460 white male on black female was literally zero for the entire year right but the untold story there 0.98

00:10:10.480 is how and this sounds so bad but how black women are screwed in dating markets that they perform 0.98

00:10:15.980 worse in in swipe based dating markets and even on non-swipe based ones than asian men who 0.99

00:10:22.540 perform dismally which is to say like this sounds so bad but it's one of those like no one even wants

00:10:31.000 situations because that is this is how much bias and like i'm definitely cutting that out simone

00:10:39.840 i know but i'm saying like that's that's what's really going on here but but the the us not being

00:10:47.400 able to talk about this leads to worse outcomes for these groups exactly and and what's what's

00:10:54.000 so disturbing about this is that it's being actively actively sort of buried it's like oh

00:10:59.900 there's this big problem it's all because of and then so it look so if there's a giant problem

00:11:04.960 with trafficking and grape and disappearing of women in these communities what we should be doing

00:11:10.980 is it's like no it's like there's a leak in your house there's like a leak coming through the roof

00:11:17.660 like in this room right now dripping on top of me and people are coming over and i'm like i'm

00:11:22.000 getting soaked here help me out and they're like all right heading straight to the bathroom i bet

00:11:26.420 it's the toilet you know they're like down there in the basement i'm sitting here on the third

00:11:29.840 floor being rained on like that's that's the problem anyway i wanted to look at what what

00:11:34.480 formal institutions are saying and the national institute of justice is one of the prominent

00:11:39.440 bodies that is, and this is, I think it's a branch of the Department of Justice. Let me,

00:11:44.120 let me double check. Yeah. It's the Justice Department's research and evaluation arm. So this

00:11:48.240 is the best and brightest of the U S government putting this together for us, really trying to

00:11:53.920 solve tough, wicked problems. And they have provided the most cited national estimate of

00:11:59.640 national intimate partner and sexual violence from that survey. And so the most cited one was

00:12:05.300 published in 2016, it found that 97% of American Indian or Alaska Native women who reported one or

00:12:13.080 more of some form of lifetime violence had experienced at least one incident involving

00:12:19.120 a non-Native American Indian slash Alaska Native or interracial perpetrator. 35% had experienced

00:12:24.620 at least one incident involving an American Indian or Alaska Native interracial perpetrator.

00:12:30.660 So what they're saying here is, look, 97% are getting hit from outside the room. Only 35% had only experienced at least one incident involving someone of their own kind. These numbers look pretty bad.

00:12:45.840 The same survey found that 84.3% of American Indian or Alaska Native women were reported one or more of the measured forms of lifetime violence.

00:12:55.260 56.1, sexual violence, 55.5, physical intimate partner violence, 48.8, stalking, 66.4, psychological aggression by an intimate partner.

00:13:05.360 I linked to the reports PDF and a lot of other things in the show notes so you can take a look at that.

00:13:09.060 But I also asked, I like opened the PDF, and then I used AI to ask what percentage of violence against American Indian and Alaska Native women and men is committed by American Indian and Alaska Native people.

00:13:21.580 And the answer is among American Indian and Alaska Native people who had experienced the covered forms of violence, 35% of female victims and 33% of male victims had experienced violence at least by one American Indian or Alaska Native perpetrator.

00:13:35.720 perpetrator. So that confused me. I was also confused that the same report found that 97%

00:13:42.600 of female victims and 90% of male victims had experienced violence by at least one non-American

00:13:48.460 Indian or Alaska Native perpetrator. And then there's also older U.S. data that also the Bureau

00:13:53.280 of Justice Statistics Analysis had posted looking at a 1992 to 1996 range of national crime

00:14:00.680 victimization survey data of all American Indian victims, not women alone. And they found that

00:14:07.080 it involved perpetrators being described as 60% white, 10% black, 29% other, a category that

00:14:13.700 combined American Indian and Asian perpetrators, which is interesting. So here's what I find sus

00:14:20.080 about these reports, because I'm not going to make you figure it out yourself. First,

00:14:23.640 in the older report I just mentioned, they group Native Americans with Asians in a matter that 0.91

00:14:29.640 could be done to reduce the percentage of crimes perpetrated by indigenous americans like

00:14:34.660 you wouldn't you're like well that must be like mostly asians then like that seems intentionally 0.74

00:14:40.880 yeah like they're really trying to like like there is all asians hold on there isn't actually 0.92

00:14:47.360 like if you're if you had good aims in putting together these reports there is no reason you

00:14:52.400 wouldn't set out the the group that you are studying as a category in the attempted assaults

00:15:01.000 yeah but remember octavia and i know so sorry keep thinking of our son malcolm in the first report

00:15:06.880 they did right they separated out that that 35 percent rate of american indian alaska native

00:15:14.040 but do you want to know what they did with the non-alaska native american that like much higher

00:15:19.040 percentage so i read it real fast but the not american indian alaska native included interracial

00:15:27.720 people so if the perceived attacker had a drop of non-pure native american blood they encountered

00:15:36.620 them as whatever other and the fact that the interracial label was dropped from the second

00:15:43.720 survey means it would probably did the same thing to lower the rates because i thought those rates

00:15:49.020 sounded low and then i hear this and i'm like oh that's how they're low they just grouped they

00:15:54.280 grouped like every other like basically non-american indian plus any american indian that's

00:16:01.100 interracial all in one group and that was the only two groups that they looked at it was either

00:16:05.760 american indian alaska native or not but not included interracial which is insanely suspicious

00:16:13.660 um and it just looked to me like they were trying to like hand wave away the call coming from within

00:16:20.180 the house and that made me angry of course not as angry as historical accounts of Native American

00:16:25.460 violence because I'm not even gonna get into that you can look it up yourself okay I linked to a

00:16:28.980 great video by Matt Walsh that you could watch that I couldn't finish because I started crying

00:16:34.060 too hard okay but anyway I also want to touch on because I'll keep in mind they were talking about

00:16:40.100 various forms of violence that people reported for this report. This is less important to my

00:16:44.600 argument, but I still found it notable. For the research collected in the most cited 2016 study,

00:16:51.520 interviewers called randomly selected landline and mobile phone numbers, and the relevant

00:16:55.780 analytic sample studied or looked at included 2,473 American Indian and Alaska Native adult

00:17:03.600 women and 1,505 American Indian, Alaska Native adult men. And this included people identifying

00:17:11.000 as these things alongside other groups. So either alone or like, I'm half this, half that, or

00:17:18.080 just I'm pure, pure Cherokee, whatever. And the survey used behaviorally specific questions

00:17:25.120 about what respondents had experienced rather than relying on respondents' own labels. Like,

00:17:30.720 were you beaten? Are you the victim of sexual violence? Are you the victim of abuse? They 0.68

00:17:35.720 didn't ask that. They asked questions. Can I ask you some example questions? Because they were

00:17:41.300 asked from, in this sort of respondent-friendly language and behavior specific, and the questionnaire

00:17:46.860 that was used, because it's a complete scripted 2010 questionnaire that they used, it's available

00:17:51.980 publicly from the CDC. So I created representative wording from the instrument, and I'm going to ask

00:17:58.280 you some questions so you can see if i have ever abused you can i are you ready for this okay yeah

00:18:03.760 sure sure all right i'm calling you ring ring ring hello it's malcolm hello sir have you ever

00:18:11.360 experienced a partner slapping pushing or shoving or pulling hair or hitting with a fist or object

00:18:18.480 or kicking or slamming you against something or trying to choke or suffocate you or beating you

00:18:23.740 or burning you intentionally 0.91

00:18:24.880 or using or threatening a knife or gun? 0.77

00:18:28.880 Have I never pushed you or shoved you?

00:18:31.760 Hold on.

00:18:32.520 The push is the easiest thing there.

00:18:34.740 I mean, are you going to deny that I've shoved you?

00:18:38.180 Yeah, that's the big one there.

00:18:40.540 Like, yeah, she's probably shoved me before. 1.00

00:18:43.500 It's a psychological aggression.

00:18:45.040 Have I acted dangerously,

00:18:47.620 called you names,

00:18:48.820 insulted you,

00:18:49.520 or humiliated you?

00:18:51.520 Yes, of course.

00:18:52.800 by accident have i threatened you interfered with your family or friends restricted your access to

00:19:00.360 money monitored or controlled your activities a thousand times yes i have i controlled your

00:19:07.620 reproductive or sexual health yeah all these things also have you have you were stalking

00:19:14.060 have you received repeated unwanted calls messages emails or other contact today

00:19:19.500 have i followed you from a distance or use technology such as gps or cameras

00:19:26.480 or leaving odd and potentially threatening items asked asking you in the context of fear of control

00:19:33.220 or concern yes 100 right now she said a camera little recording devices all over the house for

00:19:39.700 our website yep so i think malcolm i am you have abusive max to me here yeah you're a victim of

00:19:49.380 of you so i'm not going to read the rest of them but what i'm trying to say is the kind of survey

00:19:53.440 that they're presenting could be leaning to a little bit of overreporting hopefully not you

00:19:57.640 know hopefully they're doing this in good faith but what i'm more what i'm more clearly not in

00:20:01.640 good faith i know i know it's it's not good it doesn't look great no work done in good faith 0.83

00:20:09.180 would include multi-ethnic people as not native americans no that that's that's the egregious 0.93

00:20:14.200 thing, super egregious. And then, I mean, also going back to our sanity test at the beginning 1.00

00:20:19.140 of this, if we're just going to ask what percentage of USA-based homicides with American Indian and 0.68

00:20:24.760 Alaska Native victims are perpetrated by American Indian and Alaska Native people, well, per the

00:20:31.180 best CDC analysis, which was published in 2021, but was only looking at data from 2003 to 2018,

00:20:37.380 32 percent of homicides with an american indian or alaska native victim had a a suspect that was

00:20:44.960 also a an indigenous american and that was basically like almost 40 percent had indigenous

00:20:55.200 suspects and then almost another 30 percent it was like well we don't know who killed them

00:20:59.780 and that's coming from a sample of over 2 000 homicide victims but then when you look at the

00:21:06.100 reality of murder and violence in the usa using the fbi's national single victim or single offender

00:21:12.300 homicide table for 2019 around 84 of cases with a known victim race and a known offender race

00:21:19.260 involved a match within the same broad racial category and around 16 involved different

00:21:24.620 broad racial categories so it's super freaking weird to me that like everyone else kind of keeps

00:21:32.180 sit in the fam and then there's this like one group where it's like oh I don't know who killed

00:21:37.600 them it's a mystery you know like well they don't think they don't even include it in the data you

00:21:42.380 can't cleanly include it in the data because of the way that they're counting things yeah and then

00:21:47.420 I also was like okay well maybe I can look at this from the angle of like does where does this

00:21:53.220 violence and murder take place most for American Indians and Alaska Natives and apparently about

00:21:59.700 87% of people who identified as American Indian or Alaska Native alone, or in combination with

00:22:06.380 some other race, lived outside reservations and other tribal areas in the 2020 census.

00:22:11.820 About 13% lived on reservations or other trust lands or tribal statistical areas.

00:22:18.460 And I asked then, are American Indians and Alaska Natives more likely to experience violence when

00:22:24.080 living on a reservation or when living off a reservation and basically no one's asking because

00:22:31.100 i think they really don't want the answer for violence overall there's no good national

00:22:36.940 they don't have that data it's really suspicious basically the indicates the evidence that is

00:22:44.300 out there indicates very serious violence can be extremely high in some reservation-based

00:22:50.800 communities but national data does not adequately measure and compare urban versus off reservation

00:22:57.300 recently a case of a murder because of this where they knew a person was likely to murder some

00:23:03.800 someone it was a white woman and her husband it was a white woman and but he lived on a reservation

00:23:08.360 and the reservation police didn't want to do anything about it oh my god you're right

00:23:11.960 oh i forgot that they're just like yeah we when we have people who say they're going to murder

00:23:17.740 women we just let them do it like it's the reservation policy i mean that's the you know

00:23:21.720 yeah it's it's like the old cambridge and oxford days when they were like ah sorry oxford rules like

00:23:27.880 she's talking here about when people were tried under different legal systems if they were students

00:23:32.720 and this is what we're seeing and and people are like well why can't you just overturn it you can't

00:23:36.860 overturn it because of the the autonomy that's been given to native american communities there

00:23:43.060 was a great question where i was watching somebody heckle charlie kirk charlie kirk about why can't

00:23:49.700 native american communities people who live in them do x y and z that a normal american can do

00:23:56.200 i'm not sure if you even know this but native americans are not allowed to own private property

00:24:01.280 on reservations all native land is held in federal trust why do i never hear you speaking up for

00:24:06.280 indigenous rights charlie that's a little too accusatory but i do speak up for the best of

00:24:11.760 native culture you know what the first thing needs to happen the obliteration of the bureau

00:24:14.860 of indian affairs and redo it in a way that actually represents the best interest of native 0.98

00:24:18.720 and indigenous people and the obvious answer is that's your own people doing that to you

00:24:25.700 yeah we reorganized was your leader as a legal system and they made it corrupt and abusive to

00:24:31.620 you yeah like one of the best things you could conceivably do for american native americans

00:24:37.120 is to dissolve tribal autonomy like for real actually but because look the bureau of indian

00:24:43.880 affairs does summarize available evidence as as finding that violence rates on some reservations

00:24:49.540 can be up to 10 times the national average the exact quote from this report well i can see why

00:24:57.860 they don't want to do the demographic breakdown here yes no no it's white people coming in for

00:25:04.000 like essay tourism, of course. Oh God. Yeah. So the way they worded it exactly. While it is 0.83

00:25:11.220 estimated that the rates of violence on reservation can be up to 10 times higher than national

00:25:16.120 averages, research is missing on the rates of murder violence among American Indian and Alaska

00:25:21.060 Native women living in urban areas. An NIJ funded study from 2008 found that the rates of violence

00:25:27.340 on reservations are much higher than the national average. However, according to the Urban Indian

00:25:32.600 Health Institute. No research has been done on the rates of such violence among American Indian

00:25:37.140 and Alaska Native women living in urban areas, despite the fact that approximately 71% of American 0.92

00:25:42.960 Indian and Alaska Native live in urban areas. So they're basically saying they don't want to answer 0.97

00:25:48.380 the question because it looks really bad. And they're like, well, I bet they're killed off the

00:25:52.680 reservation too. Like, I'm totally sure, bro. Yeah. I want to point out here something you said

00:25:59.300 at the beginning of this it's really important for people to understand is my ancestors you know

00:26:03.500 i i come from originally scottish ancestry were were savages right they were godless savages they

00:26:10.960 practiced you know they like literally got kicked out of scotland like they were sacrificed no no 0.94

00:26:15.960 no but i'm talking about before the christian period right like sure oh yeah they would sacrifice

00:26:22.380 children under buildings and bridges to you know make them more stable no that was that was below

00:26:27.280 that was below hadrian's wall i don't know if this yeah that might not have been as high up as

00:26:31.100 my area but they they didn't really they they were no but like literally when the robins came

00:26:35.700 to england and they got to scotland they're like well let's build a wall and just keep them on the

00:26:41.140 other side yeah the the point i'm making here is that when simone and i talk about history from

00:26:48.920 these time periods and when we look for names from our children from these time periods when

00:26:54.140 we look at what we venerate from these time periods what groups are we studying we're studying

00:26:58.800 the romans we're studying the greeks and we're studying the israelites we are not yeah our 0.82

00:27:02.860 literally own people were doing horrendous horrible things because they lacked civilization

00:27:07.440 we honor civilization this is not about like your genetic inheritance this is about are you ruled

00:27:14.020 by civil law by something higher than just your animal instincts or are you not and if you're not

00:27:20.740 then i don't care like but a pointless veneration for your own genetic ancestry which is what we

00:27:27.980 have in an extent sort of brainwashed or forced native americans to do within the american

00:27:32.760 educational system can lead to it being hard to build from that ancestry where there's literally

00:27:40.060 no such thing as a noble savage like the fact that this is being held on to is disgusting

00:27:44.440 it's racist the assumption that i have to venerate when i look to the past i have to venerate

00:27:52.560 celtic practices right is would to me be a racist assumption oh you think just because i'm

00:27:58.620 genetically celtic that i have to venerate celtic practices yeah no i venerate roman practices

00:28:04.540 i venerate ancient greek practices i venerate ancient israeli practices i venerate the practices

00:28:10.680 of the civilized world right yes which i am a descendant of because i choose to be that's the

00:28:17.240 great thing about civilization is becoming civilized and identifying with the civilized world

00:28:22.700 is fundamentally a choice right like you can decide when you look to history do you read the

00:28:30.200 and i know that's because i've read them i have read many of the because my parents made me read

00:28:36.820 like the Popol Vuh and all of the ancient, like Mayan writings. And I read many of the Native

00:28:42.480 American origin stories and everything like that. And I went through them all. And these are stories

00:28:47.200 often tens of thousands of years younger than, you know, much less like the Iliad, something like,

00:28:55.720 you know, Dante's Inferno or something like that, right? You know, or what's that great Roman one?

00:29:00.460 The Aeneid? Yeah, the Aeneid. Like, you contrast them with like the Aeneid, which they're younger 0.76

00:29:06.160 then and you're like this is what are we even doing here right like yeah and i i look at what

00:29:12.000 my people were writing at around those time period it was nothing nothing nothing interesting

00:29:16.380 if you look at like the broadest genetic correlate i guess beowulf is the oldest thing out of like my

00:29:21.500 broader area and this is like 10 000 years after a lot of these other stories and it's frankly

00:29:28.000 i'm gonna be honest like artistically not very sophisticated and and the reason i say this and

00:29:34.100 it's so important to elevate this point is we're not coming at this from some sort of like racialist

00:29:39.000 supremacist lens or something like that what we're saying is taking a racialist supremacist lens

00:29:43.480 saying you must first and foremost identify with Native American culture you can't say I'm this

00:29:49.540 variant of Native American culture permanently traps people in in a cycle where when you say 0.99

00:29:56.340 something like we need to dissolve the tribal governments can't you see how corrupt they are 1.00

00:30:00.080 can't you see these horrible situations that they put you on yeah I remember what the person

00:30:03.940 saying they were saying why can't we own private land on the reservations that is not the federal

00:30:08.760 government's choice that is absolutely the reservation's choice because well not the

00:30:13.480 reservations but the the council that controls the reservation because they don't want anyone

00:30:17.800 to have enough power base to challenge them like not being able to question one's own corrupt

00:30:23.740 practices or one's own which is the situation we'll get to it actually they they go yeah this

00:30:30.160 is kind of the sad ending of it. But in terms of government statistics on the actual perpetrators

00:30:35.620 of the horrific violence and abuse that a lot of Native Americans, Alaska Natives, whatever,

00:30:41.300 American Indians are subject to, Canada is a little more honest. And for Canada, the best

00:30:45.240 national source specific statistic is for homicide, not all abuse or violence, which is,

00:30:50.280 I would say, more accurate. Because again, those questions that I gave you were a little

00:30:52.840 broad. Unless, Malcolm, have you just realized that you need some help? Look, ladies and

00:30:59.240 gentlemen, help out Malcolm here. Hashtag free Malcolm. But anyway, Statistics Canada found that

00:31:06.660 among Indigenous women and girls killed from 2014 to 2021, so this is not the 1800s, this is not the

00:31:13.520 1950s, in cases where the accused person was identified, 86% of accused persons were Indigenous

00:31:20.820 and roughly 14% were non-Indigenous. Most victims, 81% were killed by someone they knew. So where we

00:31:28.940 stand with all this, to sum it up, American Indian and Alaska Native people are victims of violence

00:31:34.180 at much higher rates. It's true. The Institute of Justice actively obfuscates the extent to which 1.00

00:31:40.100 this violence is committed by American Indians and Alaska Natives by, one, grouping them with

00:31:45.140 other racial groups or not counting them if they are interracial, basically, or getting very

00:31:51.080 liberal with their definitions of abuse. And rates of violent crimes are indeed provably 0.50

00:31:57.480 higher on reservations. And it's clear both generally and per Canadian homicide statistics

00:32:03.620 about Indigenous Canadians that most violence committed against people are committed within

00:32:08.880 communities, not by outsiders. So in fairness to these Native groups, not all members of the

00:32:15.720 MMIWG2S community gaslight about the perpetrators of violence. Or they might, I've noticed that on

00:32:24.120 some of the same websites where they like broadly imply that this is due to European Spanish

00:32:28.360 colonialism and like racism or whatever they also say things like well the National Indigenous

00:32:35.140 Women's Resource Center which is one of the prominent native-led anti-violence and MMIW

00:32:40.880 advocacy organizations publishes materials calling for accountability for offenders

00:32:45.580 in tribal communities I think that's interesting because outside tribal communities it's generally

00:32:53.620 considered that like you can call the police and you know i don't know like get custody divorce

00:33:01.540 like actually kind of you know call for accountability anyway their guidance discusses

00:33:06.820 coordinated responses to individual offender cases sanctions and re-education for batterers

00:33:13.240 and community systems that hold people who abuse accountable which to me sounds kind of like a

00:33:20.080 super low bar and i thought that we already kind of did that in society but maybe reservations are

00:33:25.800 different so i thought that was really interesting yeah and that is interesting it's like yeah let's

00:33:30.920 let's if if somebody is abusing where what we should be fighting for is telling them to stop

00:33:37.580 yeah what this is telling them to stop where the rest of the united states is yeah what are they

00:33:45.440 doing now speaking of gaslighting you know it's recently come out that that whole thing that we

00:33:52.160 grew up hearing about how the native children were took from their families in canada and put

00:33:56.380 in these schools where they were like mass killed and stuff like that yeah and then they did recent

00:34:00.500 like archaeological investigations at the sites and everything looking for the graves and everything

00:34:04.460 like that and they basically found out it was completely fabricated weren't there that there

00:34:08.880 there were instances of attempting to you know quote unquote bring them to civilization

00:34:15.120 and educate them and stuff like that but what this looked like is like let's teach them to read

00:34:19.860 let's teach them our language let's help them integrate right like which is broadly what we do

00:34:24.600 is like muslims in most of europe now right like now because they were boarding schools it was

00:34:30.060 slightly different but it looks like all of these cases of abuse and stuff like that they're just

00:34:33.780 not substantiated by the record which shows how much people have twisted the record yeah i mean

00:34:39.940 Well, and compare that to the way that many young American Indian, Alaska Native, whatever

00:34:47.260 indigenous people experienced just among their own tribes, especially due to the violence they

00:34:53.800 were subject to with tribal raids. When Sacagawea was kidnapped, she and a bunch of other little 0.99

00:35:00.060 girls were kidnapped. Men and women were killed during the raid and also a bunch of young boys.

00:35:04.320 So young boys that she grew up with were just killed. And so I imagine that like what was

00:35:09.480 freaking out a lot of people who wanted to build a better world for all the humans they encountered

00:35:15.300 were like oh dude these kids are either being killed or sold into sex slavery could we like

00:35:21.520 do something about this what if we put them in like i don't know the situation in canada i look

00:35:26.280 mostly at just america-based tribes when i was doing this research but i'm just saying like i

00:35:33.160 don't imagine that the the rating environment just given the dynamics of basically if there's anyone

00:35:37.640 raiding basically soon all everyone who survives is going to be raiding just to stay alive or at

00:35:42.580 least defending themselves violently yeah anyway i i'm not defending tribal schools or whatever or

00:35:48.440 re-education programs but i also fully yeah i'm actually against it but i think that i'm against 0.64

00:35:53.020 it for the reason of i think if somebody's from a different culture and they do not want to

00:35:56.800 integrate with your culture now obviously this was different in the case of native americans because 1.00

00:35:59.980 it was us coming into their lands but in general like you just shouldn't have them in the country

00:36:05.440 right yeah yeah but also i just want to add the coalition to stop violence against native women

00:36:10.000 also related to some some other organizations advocates really strongly for involving they

00:36:17.880 want to sorry they frame the movement the mmiwg movement as involving domestic violence and

00:36:26.880 sexual assault and trafficking and homicide while supporting survivor services and accountability

00:36:32.540 in native communities so that same group that i i quoted at the beginning of of this discussion

00:36:38.940 that was like oh this is due to white european settler colonialism is all like well

00:36:43.920 okay part of the solution is we need to by the way just to understand the amount you are

00:36:51.180 gaslit about native americans and everything like that have you ever heard about the incident of

00:36:55.540 the smallpox blankets and everyone's like yeah that never happened right yeah this is so evil

00:37:00.800 that they gave them smallpox blankets this this happened during the french indian war

00:37:07.540 at fort pit or potomac's war more specifically fort pit during potomac's war um the the potomac's

00:37:14.520 forces had killed settlers outside the fort including women and children they had raided

00:37:20.980 other places killing civilians women and children in multiple areas and the fort was under siege

00:37:26.960 when this was being discussed and it wasn't even was it carried out i remember my broad

00:37:33.680 conclusion from some historical account of that was like oh it wasn't there didn't happen or it

00:37:38.700 wasn't what i thought it was yeah it was only two blankets is what it was but like look two

00:37:43.560 blankets can go a long way we're told that this is like this major horrible thing that they did

00:37:48.380 when we're not told they were besieged in a fort by a group that had already wiped out the women

00:37:53.380 children and babies of multiple other settlements and they had no other way out right and we're

00:37:58.880 just like oh it's so sad this group that was outside was baby killers they had already done

00:38:06.760 that that is where we were when that happened right like this is it's just so like the one that

00:38:13.500 really got me was when you told me about the cherokees because i always thought of like well 0.95

00:38:16.400 at least the trail of tears was us just being assholes and then i learned that actually the 0.82

00:38:21.660 reason why the Trail of Tears was as bad as it was is because the Cherokee Tree at the time 0.96

00:38:25.060 gave out all the contracts for managing the many of the contracts with his family members 0.97

00:38:30.400 to his family members and they stole hundreds of thousands at the time dollars well they yeah I

00:38:35.240 mean they enriched themselves they could have they could have probably done more to supply

00:38:40.260 the the settlements that they were the reason it was so bad was because of graft from within

00:38:46.500 the community and like we're just not we're not told why the settlers acted in this way we're not

00:38:52.280 told the the other sides of these stories well it just seems like every time we we try to preserve

00:38:58.060 native cultures which yeah just i don't know it we we end up causing more harm within those 0.70

00:39:06.840 cultures i don't need i don't need you know celtic culture preserved right like if celtic culture 0.96

00:39:13.520 it involves violence and and killing children and women and normalizing SA and normalizing

00:39:21.240 abduction which apparently we're seeing in these communities normalizing corrupt governments

00:39:25.120 right like well maybe we should be pushing back against and note it did and I'm glad that the

00:39:30.440 Celtic that that my ancestors joined a different cultural group yeah no like literally this is 0.72

00:39:37.420 where I really struggle with this but like if native cultures are systematically producing

00:39:42.500 trafficking and assault and violence those cultures need overhauls it's not like they're

00:39:49.800 toxic cultures we should stop putting vaseline on the lens through which we view native indigenous 0.99

00:39:57.140 whatever cultures and just collectively agree they suck and either need to shape up or ship out 0.96

00:40:02.720 and even women or leaders within this movement are saying that and then being systematically 0.55

00:40:09.160 ignored by anyone who has the ability to help them they're like oh yes yes yes yes but like

00:40:13.960 not doing anything so in short i'm kind of this is horrible but i'm kind of glad

00:40:19.900 this is this is dark perinatalism like this is when you see a culture that is systematically

00:40:28.140 hurting people that is not producing human flourishing and you see that some people are

00:40:32.240 getting out and shifting to other cultures in other ways and no longer identifying as that old

00:40:37.040 culture and at first when we got into this movement i was like this is a tragedy we can't

00:40:41.340 let this happen but i'm realizing now that that that's an inherently evil view it's the same as

00:40:46.420 like you know how there are those very remote tribes in the amazon where people are living

00:40:50.900 basically similar to uncontacted tribes and now that more and more members of those tribes are

00:40:56.060 starting to learn that there are cities and that there's antibiotics like these tribes are

00:41:00.860 disappearing and there's all these researchers who are like this is a travesty and you're like

00:41:04.420 wait what so what do you actually want you want these people to not have antibiotics to die like

00:41:09.860 30 years younger your children to die of things that they could have fixed these tribes also

00:41:15.900 raid other tribes and kill people all the time i thought i was like illegal if it's an uncontacted

00:41:22.660 tribe like yeah oh yes let's study it it's fine like i'll read anthropology papers about these

00:41:29.300 tribes and there was one where they were talking about how a guy didn't like the woman's kid and

00:41:36.160 he just beat him to death against a tree for no reason like a little kid and he's he's the hunter

00:41:40.600 of the tribe so like he gets to do what he wants and the woman couldn't do anything about it and

00:41:44.480 the tribe just had to go on living like that no jail time because oh no they get they get to live

00:41:49.200 in their special way and this woman wouldn't want to live like that yeah and again this is not this 0.74

00:41:52.980 is again they said this you're talking about a a completely different region completely different

00:41:58.440 culture this is what you get in the absence of civilization this is not a racial thing this is

00:42:03.680 not a look look like our ancestors did stuff like this in our ancestors you get this in africa you

00:42:09.000 get this in south america yeah this is this is a toxic culture that hurts people we have

00:42:14.660 alternatives now it's not okay but i remember another one that really got me it's they're 0.70

00:42:19.160 studying the people and they're like well you've got to kill a man before you're you're eligible

00:42:23.120 to be married right like this is what men had to do before they're eligible for wives and the 0.85

00:42:27.360 oh fascinating fascinating can arrest these people what are you talking about well and then

00:42:33.620 you know and then like you said like you pointed out there's that recent like viral tiktok thing

00:42:37.540 where she like does this meme and then is she's dead you know because we couldn't figure out the

00:42:42.540 jurisdictions because tribal lands i i just i can't super sick of it really really mad really

00:42:48.200 angry and this yeah this is my introduction to matt walsh content thanks matt walsh he ruined

00:42:53.880 Sacagawea and everything else for me and if you want to hear the stuff about the Comanches which

00:42:59.300 we won't repeat in this one because it's truly terrifying see our episode on no just no literally

00:43:05.760 if you because this is a woman's written account of her experience which of course if you like

00:43:11.900 look at how people couch it they were like well this is a very one-sided story of someone who

00:43:16.640 was held hostage imagine imagine if you said that about a Native American I know I know I know but

00:43:23.500 anyway, look up Rachel Parker Plummer. That's all you need to do. You can look up like hostage

00:43:29.680 account or Comanche, Rachel Parker Plummer. Don't, if you, if you're, especially if you're a woman 1.00

00:43:35.440 and or someone who, who becomes kind of like ruined for long periods of time, if they hear

00:43:41.600 about harm that befell babies at any time in human history, which I'm one of those people.

00:43:46.440 don't look this up and just do everything you can to support thriving cultures and i also want to

00:43:57.580 point out and face them well support anything that protects the development and cultivation

00:44:03.120 of civilization and we are kind of faltering a little bit as a society now we're reaching this

00:44:08.840 point where there's kind of this huge unsaid debate in in humanity of like oh the rule of law

00:44:15.720 that's kind of like for losers right like we shouldn't be enforcing laws right now like there's

00:44:20.780 a famous case right now about this this man who keeps going out and filming himself beating women 0.72

00:44:27.900 just like stranger women people he doesn't know which is of course a statistical less

00:44:32.340 statistically often common his family has repeatedly tried to get this man put away

00:44:37.640 begged judges because he's a repeat offender for this what jurisdiction is this what ethnic groups

00:44:43.420 are involved in this i'm not gonna name his ethnicity because i'm already going on a spree

00:44:49.160 against one ethnicity and that's not good okay so you won't you can put it up to your imagination

00:44:54.500 or just look it up on x or anywhere else on the news just like man who films himself beating women

00:45:00.240 you're gonna find it but no his family has begged for this man to be put away he's not been put

00:45:04.960 away why are we not enforcing laws anymore look if we talk about our own ancestors acting in

00:45:12.620 when they were the picks and stuff like this they acted genuinely savage right but when they 0.95

00:45:17.540 christianize when we talk about the reavers or the backwards people and we talk about them getting in 0.99

00:45:21.700 these bloody fights ripping out people's eyeballs stuff like this it was always two consenting 0.98

00:45:26.040 adults right like in the stories that have been passed down to us it was civilized it was two men

00:45:32.580 getting an argument over whose horse is better whose wife is better something like that is how

00:45:36.760 it always starts it's never i took someone's baby in fact we don't have as i pointed out a single

00:45:42.340 documented case from this culture anywhere in the historical record anywhere of a grape happening

00:45:48.420 of a captive person which is which is pretty wild considering all the other stories we have about

00:45:52.640 them like if one had happened somebody would have wrote about it somebody at least slanderously

00:45:56.340 right you know the other people documented all their bad things all the time and what i point

00:46:00.700 out here is there is like scales of civilizational uh like restrainment and evil and we can i i

00:46:10.500 actually don't mind i think if you have a civilization with extreme violence between

00:46:14.240 consenting adults like i'm i'm actually totally okay with that whatever like i don't see that

00:46:18.400 as particularly bad if if that's where the united states goes if that's where certain cultures in

00:46:22.640 the united states go fine whatever fine um but i'm i'm okay with bringing the gladiators back

00:46:28.580 that could be entertaining well yeah but roman gladiators were largely not consenting oh yeah

00:46:34.440 if you did it in a consenting way where it's like people signing up for i mean is that not what

00:46:38.360 sports are these days when you look at that is literally what sports are yeah especially contact

00:46:42.140 sports it's already something we know and love honest honestly i think if we we came back was

00:46:46.540 like actual gladiators today it would be like less immoral than the olympic gymnastics where

00:46:51.400 it's like teenage girls were doing this too oh yeah yeah yeah yeah no obviously like all the all

00:46:55.720 the child sports stuff is is pretty dubious but like that i'm like we should probably ban that

00:47:01.420 ban ban the olympic gymnastics and i would i would say no olympic gymnastics just

00:47:06.260 or just just age age minimums i think is is a little more important no because then they still

00:47:12.100 start training at ultra young ages right you're you're ruining somebody's life for something so

00:47:17.580 trivial and and the things they go through like going through their sets with broken legs and

00:47:22.040 stuff like this it's like jeez yeah anyway though yeah it's anyway if you care if you care about

00:47:30.120 humanity thriving you care about civilization and rule of law i think i think this is underrated

00:47:37.300 and i'm reading the i think we need to stop pointlessly glorifying the ancestry of specific

00:47:42.720 groups of people that were like i'm okay with glorifying the ancestry of groups that actually

00:47:49.500 did a lot for civilization right like that aren't my celebrate incremental improvements don't

00:47:54.560 celebrate just like i don't know what you think you used to be yeah and i think that the way that

00:48:01.100 the urban monoculture relates to identity is forcing native american groups and cultures

00:48:06.640 into these really sort of you know round the fences positions that are really deleterious

00:48:14.180 for the people living in them look it's clearly not working for them when you look at rates of

00:48:19.020 poverty not to mention the violence and abuse but also extremely low fertility rates high fertility

00:48:24.160 race in modern times come from cultures who are proud of who they are, who are thriving,

00:48:30.420 who feel like they're in a good position to raise kids well, and also who themselves

00:48:34.180 experienced such great childhoods that they want to pass that on. We're getting a pretty strong

00:48:39.700 signal from American Indians and Alaska Natives that, you know what, they maybe didn't get such

00:48:47.440 a great upbringing. They maybe don't feel like they've been set up to thrive. They maybe don't

00:48:51.600 feel like they are super excited to pass on their culture and that requires to fix not just grants

00:48:57.760 which is what they always ask for more money that means the culture is broken the culture is broken 0.97

00:49:02.160 well that destroys them we've talked about the long-term intergenerational effects of ubi right

00:49:06.740 like nothing does more to damage a culture than that when we look at the sam altman study and you

00:49:11.700 gave people a thousand dollars for a month for three years and the people who were giving this

00:49:15.880 money had less money than people who weren't now imagine if you did that not for a three-year period

00:49:20.120 but intergenerationally imagine the effects are cumulative this is where you see things in some

00:49:24.600 of these groups where you see unemployment rates of like 45 percent yeah yeah no i mean clearly

00:49:30.120 the things that have been done to indigenous americans since american colonialism it aren't

00:49:36.120 great but but i think we oversell the extent to those of those things that are exclusively

00:49:43.880 the fault of the outsiders rather than their own leadership yeah an extremely damaging i think an

00:49:51.580 extremely damaging culture that has has has not been permitted to progress we allowed our own

00:49:58.140 cultures largely to progress and and stopping a culture intentionally from doing that putting

00:50:06.100 them in a literal reservation a little human zoo where they are just left to stagnate is

00:50:13.160 it's so i mean even consider this from the perspective of european culture imagine if i

00:50:18.480 said i want to do and live and treat my wife and family and and practice my religion the way we did

00:50:25.360 in colonial america most people would be like that's going to be like super toxic bro but like

00:50:30.400 we're trapping their culture at that stage we're not letting it evolve yeah i yeah and i i think

00:50:37.500 we kind of i probably had inklings of this before you know i didn't i didn't allow myself to think

00:50:43.140 about this until i read about rachel's or i heard about rachel's account first and then

00:50:47.560 matt walsh thing and then read about it and then i was like you know what no because if you come

00:50:52.000 for an infant if you hurt an infant you're going to hell i mean if you're if you're regularly

00:50:57.500 practicing smex slavery like that's that's that's not a good thing that's something that that was

00:51:05.500 popular in many of these regions as we've seen from the historic accounts and obviously if you

00:51:11.500 can't address that the way they used to do things needs to be changed or was downright diabolically

00:51:17.100 evil they it can't be addressed yeah you don't hurt babies i don't care who you are i don't care

00:51:22.940 how much i've previously loved anyone you hurt babies if i am equipped with means of ending your 0.97

00:51:29.600 life abruptly it is very very important that you do not study historic or modern african culture

00:51:36.840 i will not i will not look there's a lot of history i just am not allowed to learn

00:51:44.680 ever since i had look before i had kids this didn't affect me so they're like mama bear syndrome i

00:51:50.880 cannot describe this to you like it's you know how like the most dangerous animal you could

00:51:55.700 possibly encounter is a mama bear with babies because she will like that's it's like a hormonal

00:52:03.680 thing that it should be it should be given a strange latin medical diagnosis because it is

00:52:10.000 like the most it i have felt it more severe than any other form of diagnosis than i have ever been

00:52:17.180 given like ever and i'm talking like other medical conditions like you have scarlet fever which yes

00:52:24.620 i did have no i didn't feel scarlet fever as bad as i have felt mama bear syndrome it is

00:52:30.980 really something so you hurt babies you go you're out bye-bye i love you so

00:52:39.860 and and yeah i had always thought that this was funny when they're like this group is undergoing

00:52:45.380 so much violence and it's like well yeah no i mean i think anyone who hears it is like

00:52:51.360 well wait i thought that like most like i think i actually just read randomly unrelated to this

00:52:57.720 this episode which i researched a couple days back like just another like well 96 percent of

00:53:02.840 sexual violence comes from a known partner i'm like huh well i just i i'll tell you honestly

00:53:09.460 what i imagined when i first heard this statistic and i don't know why this image popped in my head

00:53:13.320 is i thought it was native america i think because they showed like an a video clip of this at one

00:53:19.040 point when i was younger and they were doing it is native american women hitchhiking and then being

00:53:23.500 picked up by white drivers that that's that's what was that's who was doing this because that's

00:53:28.440 the video i think they used to show for like this sort of violence on like canadian whatever like

00:53:33.700 this psa you saw as a kid i don't know i saw this psa other people can tell me where i maybe got

00:53:39.200 this image from but like every time i heard that statistic that's what i assumed i was like it's

00:53:43.580 white the hitchhiking picking up hitchhikers oh and then and then i thought about it from like a

00:53:49.140 more base perspective and i was like what the obviously it's not you've done a lot of hitchhiking

00:53:56.420 i've never hitchhiked i i look i was extremely risky in my travel choices as a young woman

00:54:02.800 traveling solo but i did not hitchhike and you hitchhiked your way across europe by yourself

00:54:10.080 sleeping in ditches on the side of the road i i can't believe we're still alive

00:54:15.160 it's kind of a christmas miracle really goes to show that the vast majority of humans out there

00:54:21.460 are good people but again in a small tribal environment you are that was the case of the

00:54:29.600 woman who decided to prove that we're all the same who was going to hitchhike across europe

00:54:33.780 in the middle east and she was found great to death within 10 miles of hitting the first 0.99

00:54:37.980 muslim majority country like this the cultures aren't the same they're different and if you 1.00

00:54:42.680 pretend you are the same you're going to victimize the people who you force to live under the same 0.99

00:54:47.400 laws when the the underlying cultural group is different like how can we understand that like

00:54:53.460 one culture is different it should be preserved and it's like well okay if they're different

00:54:57.280 old testament is so freaking clear about this like you don't that's you don't do that not no no

00:55:06.780 all right anyway the spicy episode again yeah so here's here's the little thing i'm never going

00:55:15.820 to be able to run for a political office again and i'm so freaking happy about it i'm never doing

00:55:19.780 that again no i think that was so awful oh i hated that so much i hated every second of it

00:55:25.880 king point here is we're not making any sort of ethnic claims here we're not making even

00:55:31.500 uh a claim that we're from a culturally superior group we're not we're making a claim like literally

00:55:38.060 saying 0.97

00:55:38.740 is trash and needs to go and is backward and abusive 0.99

00:55:44.880 is is political suicide thank you that it is in the same way our own ancestors were just 0.99

00:55:52.820 everybody knows not to venerate no but it's okay because we're white so of course we were 0.96

00:55:56.420 Yeah, of course the Kells were making evil. 0.99

00:55:58.600 Because we're Europeans. 1.00

00:56:02.200 But the point I'm making here is we're not making a unique claim about them.

00:56:05.680 We're making a claim about people within this stage of the civilization. 0.90

00:56:08.740 We're making a claim about civilization and the huge lack of good morals it takes to literally impede, to retard a group of people, a culture, from adapting to more civilized formats when given the opportunity. 1.00

00:56:29.660 they have had things could have gone so differently and they it's really unfortunate that 1.00

00:56:38.120 that they they didn't yeah well and and and and keep in mind even when you look

00:56:47.440 well anyway great episode simone i'm glad that you looked into this i'm surprised to see you 0.96

00:56:53.660 so radicalized on this particular topic i might cut babies no the babies you hurt babies you're 0.95

00:56:59.800 gone it does not matter who you are does not matter who you are you're gone straight to 0.99

00:57:06.440 the comanche story is what got you okay yeah no i'll do comanches foom

00:57:12.460 they go all right it's been good talking with you and i will have to heavily edit this to make

00:57:22.860 sure it's appropriate for youtube it doesn't share too much you know information but i think

00:57:27.380 it is directionally a useful correction in terms of how we think about things as a society so that

00:57:34.160 we can actually begin to address these issues rather than using them as cudgels for politics

00:57:40.260 against groups that they're really not related to yeah thank you for your tactful editing i think it

00:57:48.440 came out when the Chris Williamson round table came out and someone else was editing my statements

00:57:53.580 people were like I thought Malcolm was the crazy one it turns out Simone is the unhinged person

00:58:01.980 all along because I didn't have you to make me look less like an inhuman monster so thank you

00:58:10.000 dear husband for everything that you do to thanks for the editing job you've given me on this one

00:58:15.840 you can look i stand by everything i say

00:58:20.080 it's true

00:58:23.740 okay what are steak for dinner right or did we forget to take it out it's it's fine but it's

00:58:30.900 gonna take it's gonna take some some time to thaw it was in the deep freezer okay well what

00:58:35.480 are the kids having you can make clothes we can do gyoza lasagna we can do that sweet

00:58:41.360 oh can i do quesadillas oh with your new cheese yeah yeah if i'm doing cheese do you want

00:58:51.540 me to just do queso instead no let's do quesadillas you want a quesadilla tonight

00:58:58.620 so chubby i love you yeah okay i love you i love you too thank you for tolerating my

00:59:10.080 extreme levels of hatred

00:59:11.680 bye

00:59:12.540 sorry Simone

00:59:16.180 that was

00:59:16.560 it looks like it's about to rain

00:59:19.420 it will

00:59:21.620 we're going to have a thunderstorm

00:59:22.820 that took a long time to move in

00:59:25.960 four large boxes

00:59:28.480 oh my gosh

00:59:30.060 and a toy it looks like

00:59:31.980 that you got somebody a toy, a stuffy

00:59:33.520 the axolotls came

00:59:35.300 where are they now, the children cannot see them

00:59:37.980 they're on the table downstairs

00:59:39.880 in the bag in the sunroom in the sunroom okay look toasty he earned it for playing crime scene

00:59:48.560 cleanup with me so yeah that's and titan will earn the second one if she puts the bag of towels

00:59:55.060 away every day for a week after playing with them because typically she just leaves them out 1.00

01:00:01.660 on the table that we need to eat food just giant pile of toys

01:00:08.940 anyway so what's really cool and i didn't notice this until i was going through the story and i'm

01:00:18.280 so excited to run this tracked episode is i decided to take all of the numbers from the

01:00:24.480 because if you notice there's something very strange about that list of so-and-so begot so-and-so

01:00:32.580 begot so-and-so begot so-and-so yeah yeah in the early list in the bible you might not have known

01:00:37.840 this because i think a lot of people turn off the moment they get to one of those yeah but it lists

01:00:42.620 the age of the parent when the child was born yeah and like whoever it is i'm sorry who is the

01:00:51.180 the 12 kids of israel did it like in a span of six years at age like 80 something so it's kind

01:00:59.420 of weird right so well no but what that allows you to do that a normal genealogy with birth and

01:01:07.600 ages wouldn't is construct an exact timeline you see normally if it was a normal genealogy and you

01:01:15.460 just had age lived right yeah yeah hold on i'm actually asking right now yeah genealogies ancient

01:01:24.200 modern we'll go into it more when we do the episode on it yes done literally nowhere else

01:01:30.580 in the bible or in any any mesopotamian records that we have nobody records the age of the parent

01:01:37.420 at the birth of the kid but what what that does is do you understand what i mean when i say it

01:01:41.960 allows you to create an exact timeline no i don't i don't okay so if you just had a list of names

01:01:48.880 and how long they lived and i was trying to map that to a civilizational gross or something like

01:01:55.800 that or a number of distinct populations you wouldn't actually have a timeline because you

01:02:00.600 don't know if somebody lives 800 years when did they have their kid right so all you can do is

01:02:06.540 you well you can't put them back to back because then you're going to get a timeline that's way

01:02:10.580 too long so you just have to make like a huge guess but if you know the age of they were when

01:02:15.920 the kid started to exist and then you know the kid lived x long and then had a kid and you know

01:02:20.340 they lived x long and then had a kid you can create a full timeline of events that lasts a

01:02:27.900 thousand multiple thousand years and then we can take that timeline and if we use cattle

01:02:33.800 founding as the start of the timeline which was my hypothesized e like the story in the adam and

01:02:40.920 eve story you get an exact timeline where nine of the births and deaths match exact major historic

01:02:49.880 events within very short windows like decades long windows over a period of thousands of years

01:02:55.160 and what's weirder is at the end you get another interpretation of what the flood could be

01:03:03.260 which is while the flood is real and a separate event that i think happened at a separate time

01:03:09.000 i think what we're seeing here is a change in civilization being noted and this is when we have

01:03:15.500 the the largest change from well really in the way humans lived from agriculture until like full

01:03:23.640 civilization systems was at exactly this point where the noah story takes place which i was

01:03:29.740 really shocked about i like i like going into these things and being like there is no way that

01:03:33.340 that's chance that's absolutely crazy just to plug in the numbers and see if they match anything

01:03:38.240 that's so cool that is so cool no okay save save save the rest for the episode i'm super excited

01:03:44.460 for this i i hope we're gonna record it soon okay we'll get into mine we only have a little bit of

01:03:50.100 time to record this so just let me talk a little bit to begin with to fit stuff in and then then

01:03:54.620 and start joining in.

01:03:56.020 Okay, so.

01:03:57.860 Okay.

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