Based Camp - Guest Aydin Paladin： The First Right Wing Youtuber We Watched

00:00:00.000 Hello, I am very excited to be with you all today. Today we have on a guest, Aiden Paladin, who is a online right-wing content creator that I watched before we became right-wing.

00:00:15.980 When we still voted Democrat, I watched her channel.

00:00:21.200 So you can thank her channel in part for converting.

00:00:25.700 I don't know if you did, Simone, but for converting both of us.

00:00:29.420 And this is one of the things that I often tell people about, you know, you end up converting somebody between teams.

00:00:36.040 You often don't think about it as just like a numbers game.

00:00:38.440 But that person can then one day go on to be influential themselves.

00:00:43.060 or and i think the most important thing is the positive impact it often has on individuals lives

00:00:49.200 when they start being like hey you know what maybe i should do like a monogamous marriage

00:00:54.220 like that that'd be neat and then you end up you know having a bunch of kids and being like oh this

00:00:58.920 is pretty fun but welcome on the show what i wanted to start with because you're very unique

00:01:05.740 among the guests that we've had in that you were part of wave one anti-woke right like

00:01:14.720 Nux has been on the show and he's been making stuff for him forever but he didn't become a

00:01:19.560 right-wing guy until fairly recently right yeah but you were out there so long ago 0.63

00:01:26.400 and I actually find this to be very interesting that your contemporaneous voices were people like

00:01:34.020 short fat otaku when he was still somebody who people listened to in this space yeah and i find

00:01:39.800 the difference in both of your careers sort of since then and both of your ideology since then

00:01:46.460 to be sort of an interesting story in how this wider movement developed so can you sort of talk

00:01:53.740 about that like what first got you into this and a quick note for people you used to be a actually

00:02:00.540 maybe a more interesting question you used to be into Norse mythology like that was your oh yeah

00:02:05.000 well I didn't talk about it too much on the channel but I I was you know I was trying to be

00:02:10.860 spiritual faithful because I'd read the research on it and it's it's a positive thing well I never

00:02:15.840 really believed in it but I tried to convince myself of it I had a near-death experience now

00:02:20.180 six years ago I was in hospital for months and then I you know saw that I thought that was my

00:02:25.000 calling to Christ and I've been a Christian ever since so you know that was my path was it really

00:02:29.820 just the near-death experience or were there like things you were reading around that time or other

00:02:34.320 things you were doing it may have been as well i i never felt anything for the the norse paganism

00:02:40.180 stuff it was that was a response to research says that this is good for you that this helps provide

00:02:45.460 meaning in life and the sense of purpose but i didn't i i guess i couldn't really i never really

00:02:51.420 believed in it in the way that you know having a near-death experience as many is often reported

00:02:55.700 will give people a different kind of perspective on things right yeah and going oh maybe i need to

00:03:00.880 reconsider this a little bit more seriously as your weight of your soul is on it you know

00:03:05.420 way or another potentially this is it's very interesting that you answer that way because

00:03:09.920 it's literally the same thing happened to us where we first became religious because we were having 0.68

00:03:15.900 kids and we were just like well all the research says they're better off if they're raised in a

00:03:20.380 religious household so we'll pretend and then we started reading the bible and being like wait a

00:03:25.620 second this seems like weirdly true and since making in a way i didn't expect given the you

00:03:32.720 know prejudices i had yeah same thing for me as well yeah i i grown up with particularly growing

00:03:38.640 up in the 90s i think there was a lot of at that period of time and ladies 80s and 2000s as well

00:03:44.420 i guess and up until quite recently there have been these very negative connotations in public

00:03:48.980 sort of mass media about christianity being or any kind of faith as being a scientific whereas

00:03:55.040 actually i found that many things that are presented in the bible and in you know biblical

00:03:59.760 narratives going all the way back because to the christian story itself are actually cogent with

00:04:04.580 the scientific narrative as well yeah but i i often you know when i'm telling parents like how

00:04:11.520 do you keep your kids in the religion and everything like that arguing with the science

00:04:15.520 is not a bad way to go to be like and just reality like look at society right now it doesn't seem to

00:04:20.900 be working right like do you want to i i wanted to get when you created your channel originally

00:04:26.500 did you conceive it as like a science and psychology channel no i don't i was sort of

00:04:32.620 at that time i was taking a sabbatical from doctoral school i had been in doctoral school

00:04:36.140 at the time i ended up just leaving but at the time it was just a sabbatical because i was really

00:04:40.700 stressed out and i was talking to my i used to call my dad every day and i talked to him about

00:04:45.760 This was during 2016, or would have been 2017, right before the election, Trump's first election.

00:04:52.860 And it was during that campaign cycle.

00:04:54.580 I would just call him every day, and I talked to him about politics.

00:04:56.880 And he said, why don't you go make a YouTube channel and talk to people in the ether instead of calling me up every day and talking to me about it.

00:05:05.180 What a thing for a parent to say.

00:05:07.620 Well, I wasn't in grad, or that would have been doc school.

00:05:10.460 I wasn't in doctoral school at the time because I was taking some time off.

00:05:13.400 And I just ended up, I really liked doing it. I was very stressed out with doc school, so I just decided not to go back. And I got to do what I wanted, which was talking to the ether about politics, you know, as it interested me, but also be able to talk about my first passion and what my background is in, which is social science and statistics and talk about how, you know, even though it's social science, I think this is a bit of something I lament with the right wing more broadly.

00:05:38.240 there's sort of a distrust of science and particularly a distrust of social science

00:05:42.180 that is warranted and it is the replication crisis it's 49.3 percent of all studies in

00:05:48.360 behavioral science can be replicated so there's a major major problem in social science and there's

00:05:53.740 a lot of political bias that goes into it but if you know how to read the studies and look

00:05:57.740 sort of through the bs and just look at statistics then you can actually find a lot of useful

00:06:02.200 information and largely it aligns with right-wing perspectives on the world because

00:06:07.260 of course it does so you know well no i i think that this is a really important point i want to

00:06:13.080 flag here which is yes the field is heavily captured but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't

00:06:19.840 be doing as much research into it as possible because with understanding how people think

00:06:27.420 how society moves the differences between men and women we can act in a way and build systems that

00:06:34.980 are better in the long term and so that requires that we have our own people out there doing stuff

00:06:44.200 before we get too far into this i want to now plug this new thing you're working on because

00:06:48.360 it's really cool and it fits this idea of we need to have our own social scientists but not just our

00:06:54.220 own social scientists but when you know people are getting canceled all the time and people

00:06:58.780 pulling sponsorships from them and recently i've been like you know what i want to do i want to get

00:07:02.220 our company to a place where we can just give people sponsorships whenever they lose one and

00:07:06.260 we can just make a product for whatever product that's been pulled from them and you're already

00:07:11.060 working on a wider project like this can you talk about that yeah recently i was brought on to do

00:07:16.200 marketing and pr kind of stuff which is why i reached out to you in the first place to see if

00:07:19.920 you would want to work together with this it's actually not one company there's sort of an

00:07:23.580 overarching company that runs things but which is the baywell foundation but from this one

00:07:28.720 organization. We have a lot of different companies and organizations that work with us. Now, for a

00:07:34.820 couple of years now, we've had our publishing house, which is Wilfings Publishing. And we not

00:07:38.600 only have contemporary works from people like Dr. Ed Dutton, The Jolly Heretic, but we also have

00:07:43.540 historical works, many of which were previously out of print or outright banned. So for example,

00:07:49.040 one of our top sellers is Like the Roman, The Life of Enoch Powell by Simon Heffer. That was

00:07:53.780 originally published in 1998 but it was out of print for years because well talking about you

00:07:59.080 know powell is a little bit of a taboo subject for some people he's considered too extreme too

00:08:02.820 right-wing for some people we also have our magazine the corncrate that we you can buy there

00:08:07.560 as well and we constantly have new publications and old publications that we are reviving and

00:08:12.440 bringing back so that's kind of been our flagship is our publishing house which makes a lot of sense

00:08:16.920 coming from you know this kind of side of things a lot of these books have been lost or they will

00:08:21.100 be lost if we don't preserve them and then we've also started taking over shielding's and working

00:08:26.620 with shielding's which is our live events and we've been putting on the witan now for oh i think

00:08:30.760 this is the fifth year which is a live conference in england we also now do them in germany as well

00:08:36.180 i've lived in the uk for the last seven years and actually it is in not this this upcoming weekend

00:08:42.160 but the weekend after this year's witan in england which is always a great event just it's a live

00:08:47.900 talk sorry continue well a witten is traditionally the name for like a a celtic council right so

00:08:54.600 they that's what they named it after yes it's a meeting of of kings or lores and learned people

00:09:00.680 so that that is where the name comes from there i i think it has been five years now they've been

00:09:04.720 putting it on it's a fantastic event and you said they had other projects like vpns or something

00:09:09.700 that is planned i can't announce it officially yet but we do have a vpn we will also have a

00:09:14.880 DNA ancestry analysis. And again, the whole kind of point of this is to have many heads of the

00:09:20.320 Hydra, many arms of the octopus, so that we can provide alternative service or alternative access

00:09:25.240 to the same services that people already use, except for from an ideologically and politically

00:09:29.660 aligned group. And I've always wanted people to do this stuff. Oh, I have some connections with

00:09:32.880 your DNA project that might be useful. Yeah, for sure. Because, you know, we know some companies

00:09:39.180 that the more DNA they can get, the better. Yes, exactly. For doing better research, because a lot

00:09:44.840 of the companies that like the big national data banks like the uk national data bank shut down

00:09:50.380 public access yes the moment somebody noticed that one sub demographic had smex with their

00:09:57.100 daughters at a rate of like five thousand percent any other demographic and then they said publishing

00:10:02.300 that is hateful which was unfortunate because the the uk's dna stuff was some of the most well-capped

00:10:08.960 it was extremely extremely useful i had done research using their databases before but yeah

00:10:14.340 Of course, you can't get access to that now for political reasons, unfortunately.

00:10:18.960 Okay, so to go back to, so guys, go check that out.

00:10:21.660 We're going to mention it again at the end of the episode.

00:10:23.780 Beginning to build our own products, our own counter community of like networks of products, I think is really, really important.

00:10:33.040 That's why we have Chud Tech on, where you can upvote and put your own products on RFAB.

00:10:38.640 It's the central button trying to share other people's projects who are making cool stuff.

00:10:43.540 just because we have such an enormous capability anyone who's watching this right now to make your

00:10:49.760 own things and that's the only way because it is going to be very hard for us to recapture the

00:10:54.980 institutions right like when organizations go woke we might be able to starve them like what

00:11:01.720 happened with like what was the company ubisoft but like we can't no matter they'd literally rather

00:11:08.900 go bankrupt than hire like a consultant like you or me to come in and clean it up right you know

00:11:14.280 and so that means the only option for us is a parallel economy yes indeed but to continue

00:11:22.840 when you first came on youtube during that trump election did you consider yourself right wing or

00:11:28.820 did that happen later you know i i was very i'd never been very very political i was a little bit

00:11:34.500 when I was a teenager and I was a libertarian so I you know Ron Paul libertarian I loved Ron Paul

00:11:39.520 I wrote in Ron Paul in 2008 so I've always been I guess right leaning so it wasn't there wasn't a

00:11:44.820 big shift for me but you know I did buy into some a lot of the sort of common ideas that are left

00:11:51.860 weaning of the popular gestalt about like gay marriage and things like that and homosexuality

00:11:56.340 more broadly you know there were a lot of things that were just kind of in the milieu where it had

00:12:00.700 become normalized to such a degree that yeah sure I went that's I don't see the problem with that

00:12:04.400 Of course, you know, love is love or whatever it happens to be. I'm not like, you know, I hate gay people now, but however, there's certainly issues there. And that requires some thinking outside of the heterodoxy, or excuse me, the orthodoxy and the homogeneity of thought within pop culture.

00:12:20.000 so what's really interesting about what you're saying here is i mean i would have during that

00:12:25.380 time period considered myself a libertarian although i never would have said the word

00:12:29.760 libertarian because i find libertarian groups obnoxious but i was like i almost feel like 0.75

00:12:35.500 there was a period where the being a libertarian was the basic bitch option in life and i was

00:12:41.600 choosing that option and having the same types of subjects that i was afraid to really you know 0.76

00:12:49.500 the trans stuff i was afraid to look into too much the you know a lot of the stuff around

00:12:55.920 same-sex attraction i was afraid to look into and talk about and what i think was really interesting

00:13:02.200 about you as a creator is when you first went out there while you said stuff that i knew would get

00:13:09.720 me scolded if i said at work or something like that it it wasn't really over the line it was

00:13:15.460 still in the same general field of like the type of stuff that short fat otaku was talking about

00:13:22.540 where it just felt like edgy original but you over time evolved to become eventually like with the

00:13:32.620 rest of the movement because it wasn't just you and me it was like i mean sargon's been around

00:13:37.920 you know he's been around since that time some of the people a lot of them are gone somebody a lot

00:13:43.480 of them are gone like i used to be pretty good friends with this guy dr layman i loved his stuff

00:13:48.020 he did something that was very similar to sort of what sfo or sargon were doing at the time v is

00:13:51.900 still around he's been around since since that time arch is still around so a lot of them are

00:13:56.360 but a lot of people have just come and gone with well arch cast wasn't political back then right

00:14:01.100 no it wasn't well you know i i guess like sort of at some point it started to become that but

00:14:05.060 yeah he's been around in the same space for a long time and so some of those people have become more

00:14:08.360 political some of them have become less political but who've just been around you mean romanian 1.00

00:14:13.040 troll yes yes the romanian troll yes who recently became a what do we call them face fags oh yeah 1.00

00:14:20.120 yeah going going public with their identity sorry she used to be or like the relationship my 1.00

00:14:27.140 parasocial relationship with her is with like a synthwave avatar because that's but was it a

00:14:33.760 synthwave style or i don't know because he's the romanian guy no you oh me yes sorry i got sorry

00:14:40.200 you used to have an image you weren't always a face yeah right yeah i i still i know occasionally

00:14:46.280 i'm not rarely or excuse me rarely anymore but occasionally i will use the avatar yeah i i was

00:14:50.880 the the you know cartoon everyone did that back then with the png tube stuff where you just change

00:14:57.660 out your png every couple of after you say something to look like it's reacting to what

00:15:02.020 you're saying it was very common yeah i had like a wave synth wave thing aesthetic yeah yeah why

00:15:07.720 did you choose that by the way because simone was we did our website in a sense way style and she

00:15:11.580 goes why why is this so common in like right-wing content why did we all choose simply yes i think

00:15:16.800 it's like fash wave kind it's like the aesthetic of it i just like this well that was the future

00:15:21.600 we were promised i guess is that maybe not a cyber dystopia but it's like everything will be

00:15:26.460 shiny and i'm feeling in the 90s it's like everything in the future is going to be shiny

00:15:29.700 and neon yes yeah well actually that brings me to an idea here where i think a lot of

00:15:36.760 what our side has increasingly coalesced around fighting for and i think leaflet did a good job

00:15:43.560 of sort of synthesizing this with her stellar humanism concept is this idea of a very optimistic

00:15:49.920 bright future for humanity where humanity is thriving and actually i i don't know if you've

00:15:57.300 commented on this yet but what's your take on the weird sort of way that the right has become the

00:16:02.480 party of technology and AI and the left has become very anti-technology and AI? Well, I mean, I think

00:16:09.600 the whole way that the left currently operates is on this, it's not the sort of third worldist

00:16:15.020 stuff as part of it, but it's all very regressive. Actually, they call themselves progressive, but

00:16:18.860 they are regressive. It's about, you know, getting people bogged down in the differences between each

00:16:23.860 other and just constant grievance, constant interest, so that you get distracted by the

00:16:29.300 little differences between me and you between men and women but we have to also paste all over it at

00:16:33.640 the same time but be constantly aware of it at all times you can't move past that you can't just

00:16:38.280 accept that things are sometimes a way sometimes things just exist there are differences between

00:16:41.960 people they can't be ameliorated they will always exist they have to go in constant and this is it

00:16:46.980 comes from the hegelian dialectic of everything has to be deconstructed all the time you can't

00:16:52.480 progress actually towards any sort of future if you are stuck engaging in the hegelian dialectic

00:16:57.800 and deconstructing everything forever so i think that's why they get basically stuck what are your

00:17:04.120 thoughts on one of i think the big questions right now culturally is the left sort of abandoned

00:17:10.580 environmentalism like you know even greta thornburg gave it up they seem to have abandoned a lot of

00:17:16.600 their like the trans movement seems in heavy retrograde right now do you have the they they

00:17:23.880 gaza when trump ended that that really blew their sails out on that thing like what do you think is

00:17:30.800 the next thing for them their their next blm yeah i you know i've been speculating on this and i can

00:17:38.360 see that what what interests people why what i see them talking about i think it's going to be gender

00:17:42.400 politics again i think it'll be right back in 2014 feminism kind of stuff in many ways and that

00:17:48.000 might lead back into introducing the transgender stuff they just went too far with it they went

00:17:52.100 way too far with the transgender stuff it's still it's i am seeing it come back up in common discourse

00:17:57.260 more commonly particularly with the women's basketball stuff that happened recently that

00:18:01.640 all stuff i think particularly in talking like very different world now in many ways politically

00:18:08.040 than it wasn't in everything that has happened in iran everything that has happened in terms of

00:18:12.600 foreign policy issues things like gaza that the left were very fired up about for years about

00:18:17.660 Palestine yeah and now that's dissipating I I feel like and all of the the more intense sort

00:18:24.360 of racial animus and racial discourse of the summer of love that stuff I think got too intense

00:18:29.180 for people they want to go back to a little bit of the safe zone where let's talk about gender

00:18:34.620 politics because comparatively that's more comfortable and safe that's not too serious

00:18:40.540 in the Middle East that's fascinating I but we've sort of had the the opposite take where we sort of

00:18:46.320 look at like hassan locking destiny out of the dnc and see this is sort of like the the middle

00:18:51.780 ground guy destiny yeah being the the outside and then the centering of i guess what i call

00:19:00.080 like the terrorist left the left that just like hates the west yeah and i so i thought maybe just

00:19:05.140 like anti-western sentiment would be the next thing well i think from the right i'm already

00:19:09.660 seen a very lot of what i i would call counter jihad or return to freedom fries which is a lot

00:19:15.060 of ru-rah we are back it is george bush's president again in many of that kind of sense

00:19:19.780 and on the left you get the opposite is essentially we're the pro-terrorism side we are pro-jihad and

00:19:26.360 and that's the third worldist mindset that i did i did mention briefly i've seen that as well

00:19:30.460 i think yeah with with hassan i i don't know how long his utility lasts to the left because you're

00:19:36.380 also seeing them saying woke one was crazy all of the you know that stuff that's what aoc has said

00:19:42.140 woke one is crazy i'm seeing more and more of them come out and say no we're woke too which is

00:19:46.660 clearly going to be something different than maybe i think not the transgender stuff i think

00:19:50.800 that was a massive failure yeah with hassan actually we might be getting him we'll see if

00:19:56.680 it ends up getting him platform but we're working right now with the senate what committee

00:20:00.300 the senate commerce committee yeah we put together a big dossier like like 18 pages or something like

00:20:06.540 that of going through the differential treatment that twitch and youtube have been giving people

00:20:11.020 so we'll see if we can get something triggered there but i mean like the it it's in the best

00:20:15.680 interest of the administration so i would i would really like to be fighting against the left where

00:20:21.060 it's just like gender politics again yeah it would be genuine when you were like it's gonna be gender

00:20:26.080 again please make it i i think it's a hunch i think there's gonna be the counter jihad versus

00:20:33.280 the yeah jihad sort of sides the third world side i do think that's probably likely as well

00:20:38.440 but i i also think people were burned out and a little bit of comfy gender politics i think would

00:20:44.000 make some people quite happy you know i think i i honestly didn't believe that was the case until

00:20:49.100 this morning because i thought the big board was going to be pro-ai anti-ai which of course is

00:20:54.120 another really huge thing but then although i've been avoiding coverage of it the the lindsey

00:20:59.160 clancy trial someone sent me that a huge portion of the internet apparently is just vehemently

00:21:06.300 refusing to believe that this woman killed her own children yeah and they're like obviously the

00:21:12.160 husband did it and even if she did it she didn't do it he did it because of her there's star signs

00:21:19.100 i mean it's it's very very very woman coded stuff going on there but women are strange he's got a

00:21:24.980 scary he's got this scary face i can tell that no it's merely because he's a man like a woman is

00:21:30.160 not she did not do it even if she did not do it just like this like i remember someone saying to

00:21:35.660 me a notary being like vote blue no matter who and i was like wait do people actually do that

00:21:40.780 do they just like look i'm gonna blindly toe a line and no matter what you tell me i'm going to

00:21:46.800 toe that line and i feel like there's a new line of like i don't care what you tell me you know 0.97

00:21:52.220 either men or women they're evil they're wrong they're evil they're bad and they always murder

00:21:56.600 and they're always the wrong one it doesn't matter what the evidence is so you are probably

00:22:00.200 onto something really good well what's very interesting if they do go that direction is

00:22:05.160 that the right of today is not the misogynistic right that existed like eight years ago like

00:22:12.580 during woke one yeah oh yeah yeah yeah the anti-gamergate yeah andrew takes off he's he's

00:22:19.380 gone to like the gamergate community was really mixed with the red pill community and the pickup

00:22:26.020 artist community and the andrew tato's fear yeah and but now he's a taliban icon it's a totally

00:22:32.740 different world yeah yeah what's really fascinating is as we evolved as a movement a big part of that

00:22:42.180 evolution has been about hey like treat women well right like be be decent right like we don't like

00:22:50.240 the gender war stuff but like be decent right and i think that part of that we've we've talked about

00:22:57.500 like why this happened actually what are your thoughts why did that happen in terms of why did

00:23:02.560 the right well i mean there's still some of that going on there's that whole sort of

00:23:06.120 side of what i would call like right adjacent they're not explicitly political but they end

00:23:10.440 up in the same spaces of like the looks maxers the clavicular type people who are popular right

00:23:14.500 now which is and i actually have a scientific rationale for why i think that's happening

00:23:18.320 go into it by the way but continue i i don't know i think part of it is some people have to

00:23:24.740 have figured out at some point that it just throwing women out and hating women is not going

00:23:30.920 to be a successful strategy particularly for a right-wing movement that should have that should

00:23:35.140 be pronatalist like you know if you at least have to figure out how to tolerate women if nothing 0.57

00:23:41.020 else and not just this because like MGTOW has massively dropped in popularity that was a huge

00:23:46.180 thing for years not not like men's rights stuff where there's still work obviously that needs to

00:23:49.880 be done particularly in the legal system with that but the men who were just kind of checking

00:23:54.180 out of society one of the things I came up in my recent research is that women are checking out of

00:23:58.060 sexual relationships as well it's all of gen z so all of them are increasingly reporting not having

00:24:03.620 relationships for the last three to four months in ways that are much higher than they were just

00:24:08.020 10 or 15 years ago so i think people are starting to realize that there is there have has actually

00:24:13.720 been a gender sex schism that has been created where people because of the situations in which

00:24:19.340 they grew up if you were growing up during the 2000s of the 2010s in particular you were coming

00:24:24.060 of age during the 2010s and during the era of me too and during the era also where women are

00:24:29.860 constantly told that no man is good enough for you you know that you you have to be hold have

00:24:34.760 the highest standards possible no wonder those people who are now adults aren't seeking out

00:24:39.640 relationships well i think part of what drove this change that happened in the community is

00:24:45.200 you know when i first entered the the proto version of this community i had been a young man

00:24:52.040 I'd been socialized to be like, your value in society is that the women you have sex with, 0.94

00:24:57.300 right? Like that is the measure of a man, how many women you have sex with and how hot they are. 0.98

00:25:02.320 And so, you know, going out there and sleeping around a lot, but I want, I want to sleep around 0.90

00:25:06.820 more. I want more of that. Right. And it is the women who are preventing me from having the more

00:25:12.260 of that. And then the community began to coalesce. And the, the, the thing that sort of drove it 0.97

00:25:20.020 above all else was a search for what is actually true and i think it became obvious even outside

00:25:28.180 of religious mores and everything like that that wait this the the me wanting to sleep around was

00:25:35.780 a ton of people that was actually part of the lie that was part of the the stuff being held over my

00:25:42.220 eyes and so the the problems to that like when you look with andrew tate he converts to islam so he

00:25:47.900 can have a harem and everything like that and i think that and the getting more into i'd say

00:25:55.260 christian or traditional western values for a lot of the movement has also been like wait that's not

00:26:01.060 cool right like that's not a cool thing to do that's not a cool way to treat a woman right like

00:26:05.260 why would you i wouldn't want my yeah and people start thinking daughter and stuff like that and

00:26:09.060 then the other thing that really changed it which i've mentioned and i don't know how much you track

00:26:12.460 this is the vtuber community becoming popular in right-wing spaces and becoming accepted in the

00:26:18.600 right-wing spaces allowed for older women and when i say older women i don't mean old women

00:26:23.620 i just mean it's fairly hard to become a female influencer with your face if you're like 30 plus

00:26:29.940 right yeah i'd say it's probably hard if you're if you're not started i mean unless you're willing

00:26:34.500 to like unless you're willing to show a lot of skin and stuff and you're quite hot you really 1.00

00:26:38.380 women have on a you know time scale there where if you if that's because that's the way that the 1.00

00:26:44.060 vast majority of women get very popular in terms of doing live streaming is being very attractive 1.00

00:26:48.100 but yeah if you're you know a little bit older or something or you don't feel comfortable with that 1.00

00:26:52.640 v-tubing a lot which either it could be all sorts of reasons why you might prefer to do v-tubing 1.00

00:26:57.180 over being on camera it gives a whole new degree of latitude for women to enter the space without

00:27:02.540 feeling like they're forced to be on camera they are forced to look a certain way yeah yeah 1.00

00:27:08.160 and well and that caused i mean you were one of the first female influencers in this space but 1.00

00:27:12.980 that allowed for many more offering i think a female perspective helps moderate us but what 0.99

00:27:19.100 what the the wider point i'm making is if the left goes full-on misandrist again they're going to be

00:27:25.920 crashing against a force that doesn't look like the misogynistic opposite that existed on the

00:27:32.100 right in the past and i think it's going to look really bad for them they're gonna have if they do

00:27:36.800 I mean, you know, I live in the Channel Islands, which is it's where it's not part of the UK, but it's basically the UK. 0.80

00:27:42.860 And so I, of course, see the Islamification of things that the counter-jihad is much more and the jihad aspects are forming marching lines here much more staunchly. 0.88

00:27:50.340 That's all the Green Party is here, for example. 0.86

00:27:52.800 They have made that pretty much explicitly clear that they are, you know, pro-third-worldist. 0.53

00:27:57.760 They are pro-jihad and Islamic takeover party. 0.54

00:28:01.340 And I'm seeing that also as well in the Democrats, and that's been going on for years, particularly with the, you know, conflicts involving Israel and Iran, et cetera, et cetera. 0.92

00:28:11.440 So you are going to end up with the left in many ways probably taking over the pro-third-worldist, pro-Islamic positions.

00:28:18.480 And then if you've got, you know, the left is full of women, full of young, you know, full of feminist women and old feminist women, people who've lived their whole lives, you know, believing in a whole slew of very left-wing feminist beliefs.

00:28:31.340 Now being asked to take in men who don't believe that they should have any rights whatsoever and say, no, we can get along. 0.97

00:28:38.700 Now, this has been a conflict that's been boiling there for years, but sort of you'll reach a saturation point, particularly in places like the UK, particularly in parts of Europe that are increasing and just not the flood of the immigrants does not stop. 0.86

00:28:52.060 So at some point, a lot of it's going to, I mean, obviously it was the rape gang inquiry report that came out earlier this year, but which is, you know, just a fraction actually of how bad things really are. 0.57

00:29:03.100 You can't have feminist beliefs and a feminist, you know, pro-feminist society that's also full of people who don't believe that women should have, particularly not women of your group that isn't part of their group.

00:29:14.180 Yeah. 1.00

00:29:14.400 Yeah.

00:29:14.820 I mean, I wonder, and I think this is the fundamental conflict on the left is which way does it go?

00:29:20.460 does it go back to moderate feminism or does it just become the party of a third world takeover

00:29:25.240 right like specifically a jihadist like they're they're parts of the left what i've noticed

00:29:29.920 recently are more specifically just pro-islam than anything else and and sort of violent islam

00:29:37.140 that that's to become like the cool edgy thing to be about and we're increasingly seeing leftist 0.99

00:29:44.220 influencers being of of these these groups like mandami and stuff like this right and that

00:29:50.100 terrifies me because i don't want to be fighting against a group that is that fundamentally evil

00:29:55.340 like i i prefer the two parties of the 90s or wherever where it's like a polite disagreement

00:29:59.920 and this because when it gets existential what i don't think the left realizes when they're

00:30:05.660 letting in more and more people is the right is moving to a more and more extreme position

00:30:10.800 and when i talk to the other people i know in the sphere and stuff like this the takeaway from ice

00:30:17.040 isn't like oh that looked terrible or something like that it's like they didn't they did all of

00:30:22.380 that and they still didn't make that much of an impact then we need to go a hundred times harder

00:30:28.920 and then when this happens in places like the uk or germany where you have much larger populations

00:30:33.640 that's going to look awful oh yeah i mean that's that is the major contention currently is is you

00:30:39.240 know rupert lowe says millions must go nigel farage is not will not go that far won't give

00:30:43.240 any kind of numbers. But even so, yeah, with all of the chaos involving ICE earlier in just this

00:30:49.720 year, which is, it feels like, I don't know why, maybe it just feels like it was already an age

00:30:53.400 ago when all of the stuff with Alex Preddy and Renee Good occurred in Minnesota, right? Which

00:30:59.220 was a huge, huge news about, you know, we need to stop ICE. We need to put a stop. They're

00:31:03.500 separating families. People were innocent. People were getting killed and largely put the kibosh on

00:31:08.040 a lot of that stuff. It really did slow down. And it was like the, you know, Trump's, I think it's

00:31:12.940 because Iran happened but you know all of Trump's sort of pushes at the time which were all directed

00:31:16.860 towards getting people illegals out of the country just kind of was like I think people also they

00:31:21.760 fell out of the news cycle because they realized also yeah how difficult it is going to be to get 0.98

00:31:26.880 those people out of the country if you have to drag every single one of them kicking and screaming

00:31:30.480 now there's other ways you can get them out you know that that they will self-deport under certain

00:31:35.460 conditions but yeah i i think that has enough people i think in many ways this feeling

00:31:42.780 disheartened because it is going to be very difficult there's millions and millions of

00:31:46.380 these people in countries not just not just the united states but again you know europe is facing

00:31:51.280 a very serious problem in some ways that is worse than the united states so so when she says these

00:31:56.540 people i want to for anybody who's watching this was like a negative skew keep in mind in the uk

00:32:01.720 right now and this is from the guardian okay a very left-leaning source over 50 percent of

00:32:08.440 muslims in the uk do not believe it should be legal to be gay note here i did not say get gay

00:32:14.240 married i said be gay just to be a same-sex attracted individual living your life that is 0.94

00:32:21.060 a value system oh my god sorry i am wearing my shirt inside out i need to

00:32:26.840 well i've i've had it happen to to luckily not me i don't think but i've had it i've had other

00:32:35.780 friends do that before where it's just you don't think about it sometimes with men's clothes i

00:32:40.040 think it's harder yeah and i i'm yeah with with women's clothes you can pretty much tell poorly

00:32:46.200 constructed like you know like clothes oh yeah well now the giant seams are here and i can see

00:32:51.460 them some of the terrible like stitching i use i haven't done seam work in forever but some of

00:32:56.740 this stitching is only stitching on the inside is awful yeah but with men's they tend to be

00:33:02.480 made a little bit stronger i think a little bit tougher at least more subtle yes yes okay so i'm

00:33:09.320 back i'm i'm wearing it the right way now you see i'm a very i'm a very intelligent person guys

00:33:15.460 yes you can put on clothing you're getting your your your opinions from right oh my god

00:33:21.320 actually has there ever been a cancellation campaign against you

00:33:26.160 it's not one that's that's gotten i think it's gotten too far you know way back in the day there

00:33:33.760 was stuff with that guy crowton t but i was on a big list i was on a big list with like sargon and

00:33:39.280 v and all those people i mentioned before they were all on a list of people who needed to be

00:33:42.420 taken out but all that was was people being weird on discord and larping yeah well i i think that

00:33:47.040 actually brings up a one of the things that really protects you from cancellation is just

00:33:51.960 admitting that you're right-wing and and having like right-wing opinions and it makes cancellations

00:33:56.880 way harder to run yeah in a sense they'll try to they'll i mean the whole idea a lot of the

00:34:03.860 cancellation stuff a lot of that era it's not over it's just changed sort of in the way that

00:34:08.260 it manifests i mean it's it is always the case that people get canceled quote-unquote for something

00:34:13.220 related to some sort of sexual impropriety but that's been going on for i don't know all of human

00:34:17.360 history is you know some crimes or sexual impropriety things it's just the nature of

00:34:21.940 them have kind of changed i guess a little bit people don't get canceled anymore for so much so

00:34:26.560 sometimes perhaps but nowhere near the way they used to for just being conservative people just

00:34:31.680 lose their jobs i mean yeah literally we've we've lost you know investors job opportunities and stuff

00:34:39.080 like that just for being this was before we were extreme this was just over the people aren't

00:34:44.780 having enough kids and it's going to be a problem for social security that that is what got us in

00:34:49.200 trouble and i think for us and it doesn't seem like this is what happened to you but it definitely

00:34:54.620 was what happened for us is seeing ourselves be canceled for normie opinions yeah pushed us

00:35:02.720 to associate with other right-wing individuals right-wing spaces right-wing influencers and

00:35:08.800 they were just really really nice and it was very different than being in left-wing spaces where i

00:35:14.660 felt like i was constantly you know like i remember early in right-wing spaces i had this

00:35:20.820 experience of going to one and i was like well you know i believe x thing i believe y thing

00:35:26.140 thinking i was finally gonna say the thing that would get them to condemn me right like

00:35:29.780 and they're like no it's okay yeah whatever you know you're you're on our team now we we work

00:35:34.480 together and i really like that feel and it's something that i've been trying to do more

00:35:38.260 proactively we're gonna have a collab soon with a a vtuber who recently got canceled for saying

00:35:44.400 that men can't have periods and you know how we still in that in 2026 right but it's the v-tubing

00:35:51.960 space yeah right but i think the doing things like that was in our community when we see somebody get

00:35:59.380 canceled for a mild opinion to immediately go to them and be like hey come on we support you

00:36:06.760 you know we're here for you you don't need to agree with us on everything yeah yeah i i mean

00:36:12.060 i was fired when i wasn't fired i was kind of told to not come back to my doctoral doctoral program

00:36:16.220 after i started doing that i started doing youtube so that was the only canceling but that was that

00:36:20.260 was related to destiny by the way it was his community they i i it was a very very embarrassing

00:36:25.360 debate i didn't know who he was i'd never heard of him i just saw someone say someone go debate 0.96

00:36:29.480 this liberal i was on 4chan and just browsing and i was like oh sure i'll debate this stupid liberal 0.99

00:36:35.600 i was i was drunk and high i didn't know who he was and so i was i made a terrible idiot of myself 0.97

00:36:42.560 because i had no idea i was about to be in front of you know 15 000 people i wasn't doing youtube

00:36:46.880 i was just a random person browsing the internet but they connected that to me and so you know

00:36:51.800 yeah then i got canceled for that all that stuff that was very very deeply hanging out on 4chan

00:36:57.880 drunk and high doing public debates this is very much you can tell she's very much on on tribe on

00:37:04.520 community oh this was about 10 years ago though at this point it's it's been nearly yeah about 10

00:37:08.680 years that was a long time ago it's a good story though oh man it was very embarrassing but you

00:37:15.040 know what they did they they called my school they they made all these complaints about how i was

00:37:19.140 racist this was shortly after what had happened with destiny and john tron if you remember that

00:37:22.960 or heard about that where john tron who was a hugely you know popular and beloved sort of gaming

00:37:28.400 content creator on youtube at the time he got into a oh it sounds like a very similar thing

00:37:33.280 happened where he ended up on a public debate with destiny talking about race and iq big topic

00:37:39.900 in 2016 very common and it was just yeah he got he got canceled he was removed from a bunch of

00:37:45.720 projects and things they they now he's fine now but that's it has been fine for a long time but

00:37:51.040 i think things were probably at their zenith of like left-wing power back like maybe up until

00:37:57.060 after or like the end of covid that's when i think things started to to cool off a little bit it's

00:38:01.400 always awful but just the extremity some guy got canceled because he had remember he would he

00:38:06.520 landed a probe on a comet or an asteroid they canceled him because he had like an attractive

00:38:11.600 anime girls on it yeah and his friend had made it a female friend he was trying to

00:38:17.220 that stuff though the the levels are just the nitpicking it's untenable society cannot function

00:38:24.020 if everyone has to be constantly afraid of every single thing they do it's just what doesn't work

00:38:29.600 long time long term what's been really fascinating to me is it's very clear that like we've been in

00:38:35.980 the same spaces for a long time we likely went on a similar like political journey but it's not

00:38:41.740 just that like my personal politics has changed throughout that journey but there's been this

00:38:49.120 and i think that this really happened post-covid this merger of our online right with institutional

00:38:58.220 political right where like we our people other former 4chaners are the people staffing the

00:39:05.100 white house's x feed now and stuff yeah pretty clearly very obvious right yeah we were we were

00:39:10.720 saying this like when fauci's diaries came out and somebody at the at the team styled it like a

00:39:15.760 teenage girl's diary yeah it's like very obviously this is like our community and our culture and

00:39:21.880 it's been such a feeling of like it feels really nice because back in the day when you started i'm

00:39:31.080 sure you probably felt very different from whatever you thought of as republican oh yeah i mean

00:39:36.740 absolutely well you know i was a libertarian right i was a i was a right-leaning libertarian

00:39:41.180 but i was a libertarian i've changed a lot of my opinions in that sense but you know that was

00:39:47.220 always where i fell was in that direction but of course i had nothing to do with and wanted nothing

00:39:51.540 to do with the neocons i had grown up despising those people i still despise them you know people

00:39:57.940 like lindsey graham you know rest in peace or whatever but you know i those people do not

00:40:03.140 represent me they never represented me they certainly don't represent young people in any

00:40:07.020 of anyone who could because you need young people to be involved in politics in order for political

00:40:11.880 movements to do anything and yeah the gop had was up until trump really was doing an absolutely

00:40:18.980 horrific job trying to make anyone under the age of 60 consider them so yeah well and what's

00:40:26.260 interesting is it feels like to me that battle we've won like gop inc the neocons the old

00:40:32.820 they don't really have a base in our generation or younger right yeah but the the big fight right

00:40:39.780 now and i feel like we've basically already won this fight as well is against the gripers and

00:40:44.900 against the you know the the radical the people who want to go into just like explicitly racist

00:40:52.760 territory and stuff like that and they're explicitly misogynistic territory and it's

00:40:57.000 like we don't need to but that fight feels pretty won as well which you know i'm a reactionary in

00:41:02.800 my own way i in that you know i react i am not pro-democracy i'm a monarchist but that's that's

00:41:08.440 like man that's going back a couple ways it's in the opposite direction but a lot of young men

00:41:12.820 in particular have been massively disenfranchised i mean told from their whole lives that they're

00:41:17.300 evil and they're terrible they go okay well i am evil i'm a stormtrooper you know i'll be as

00:41:22.900 evil as possible that's a really good they got an idea of what the evil republican was

00:41:29.500 from progressives yes then they decided to embody that they were told they were you are that thing

00:41:36.600 yeah yeah by the way you know we've had curtis yarvin on oh i love curtis yeah

00:41:40.280 monarchist right yeah he's a friend of ours i i really like him he's got really good we should

00:41:45.820 have him back on simone actually you should make a note to reach out to him that episode did really

00:41:49.000 well but yeah the well and we've had aristocratic utensil who's a monarchist as well on we have

00:41:55.360 said explicitly on the show multiple times and this is where the monarchist thing comes from

00:42:00.600 i think everyone i think both the left and the right realizes this at this point that democracy

00:42:06.600 as it's currently structured is probably not going to continue to work the the the dsa party

00:42:12.120 will have an episode on them soon this is a the party that like mondami's associated with and

00:42:16.820 aoc's associated with has now said explicitly they want to banish the senate and the and the

00:42:21.220 supreme court right like they they leftists want to move in this direction the question is is

00:42:27.700 basically which party cancels elections first at this point pretty much aristotle predicts this

00:42:33.720 You know, he says that, that, that cultures will move in these cycles of politics.

00:42:37.420 And at some point, democracies and republics, they will give way.

00:42:40.460 And the next stage after that is autarchy and, and, and monarchies.

00:42:44.320 Those are going to be the next stages.

00:42:45.760 And then it will go in a cycle like this forever.

00:42:47.580 And by the way, and now history doesn't follow a perfect pattern there, but yeah, sometimes

00:42:53.260 you get despots and then you get monarchs.

00:42:54.840 And that tends to be sort of when things collapse after a democracy or a republic, a, you know,

00:42:59.040 a system which people collectivize their action.

00:43:01.820 then a lot of times it ends up in chaos and then afterwards there needs to be stability and the

00:43:06.080 most stable system tends to be something that looks like a monarchy well monarchies like even

00:43:12.360 if we just even if the u.s government doesn't collapse even if the governments in europe don't

00:43:16.700 collapse given the strain on social security that's going to come as people get older and

00:43:21.580 the effect that that's going to have on the government's tax base and thus ability to operate 0.88

00:43:25.800 at the same time as the ai tech lords get richer and richer and richer you functionally have a

00:43:32.860 what's the word that they use for they used to call us it simone techno oligarchalism

00:43:39.800 techno feudalism yeah yeah yeah and so we're functionally moving in that direction anyway

00:43:44.580 which is one of the reasons i often point out to people in the wider new right and stuff like this

00:43:49.560 that it is important that we keep the tech lords on our side right like you know you can you can

00:43:55.580 have your opinions on stuff and think well maybe that's not good for like all of society

00:44:00.220 but then if you move to positions that are going to really piss off the tech lords

00:44:05.120 you're likely going to freeze yourself out of history one of the reasons that the gop

00:44:10.380 i mean it's terrible for so many reasons but just one of them and the reason why they fell

00:44:14.320 out of favor why the right wing fell out of favor with young people for a long time

00:44:17.160 is because they were sort of anti-tech they they were you know yeah they because that's

00:44:22.740 what traditionalists are traditionalist being a traditionalist means to be uh a troglodyte which

00:44:28.540 it doesn't in any way and that's sort of i think that idea particularly with yeah the tech bros

00:44:33.400 the crypto bros who you know very often look if you want to keep your money and you're a crypto

00:44:37.780 billionaire you're going to end up with a little bit more right-wing politics just generally

00:44:41.540 speaking not always but yeah so there's a lot of that movement in that direction on the right of

00:44:47.000 being not troglodytic about technology and embracing it and realizing how we can use it

00:44:52.260 the right has been very good at adopting i mean because we were that's why we the whole meme war

00:44:57.200 stuff of the 2014s era why places like 4chan were able to in a way influence trump into getting

00:45:03.900 elected on some small scale by turning everything into memes which are now what the white house

00:45:08.200 posts the same i mean not as extreme i know i i don't think there's a chance in hell trump would

00:45:12.940 have won the primaries if not for 4chan yeah 4chan is what made him seem like a viable candidate

00:45:18.280 and then that's why he ended up getting elected he is a 4chan president yeah in many ways but

00:45:23.760 that's that was the embrace of tech and that inherently the the right like the post-trump

00:45:28.960 trump era right has all been very pro using new technologies rather than rejecting them i i think

00:45:35.400 that that's been a big part of it but the i i think another really big part of it is the

00:45:39.200 performative vulgarity and edginess as a cultural authenticator and as i said this has always been 1.00

00:45:46.520 part of a part of right-wing culture in the u.s you know the the sexy woman on a mud flap of a

00:45:51.900 trucker the you know the the what do we call them truck nut conservatives you know like yeah the idea 0.99

00:45:57.880 of this performative sexualized edginess that 4chan figured out how to make cool for kids

00:46:05.160 right and then they grew up into a movement where this stuff is more normal like sexy anime girls 0.98

00:46:14.040 are normal and that has given us a lot of cultural power that the left has removed from itself yeah

00:46:22.480 well you know that's why hollywood is in the state that it's in it's all controlled by these leftists

00:46:27.840 who have no idea there's they are so removed via academia or via their belief system which usually

00:46:33.520 a combination of both from knowing what it is that people not only find entertaining or tolerable

00:46:38.040 morally but what anyone would find remotely cool and they've been putting out that stuff for the

00:46:43.540 last 15 years now and they can't make any i mean every once in a while i guess you know still you

00:46:48.720 can have a christopher nolan movie that disrespects history do well but other than that it's just been

00:46:53.600 flop after flop i i think one of the coolest things that we're gonna see in the near future is

00:46:58.580 right wing made content using ai that has like actually coherent like i was talking with nux

00:47:05.760 offline recently and he was saying that he wanted to use ai to make an anime and i suggested i was

00:47:10.720 like bro i bet if you storyboarded something that skybrow's team would love to make it right

00:47:16.420 kind of already has been done a little bit with the it's the emily yukas who's doing the well

00:47:22.000 stancil show oh that too yeah yeah and then there's that and then there's this like video

00:47:27.080 about twitch which was leaflet and powder against the guy who runs twitch and it was like a 25

00:47:32.320 minute anime episode oh well yeah i mean there's yeah emily yukas i know has been doing that she's

00:47:37.800 been an animator for years and now she's able to put out you know at a relative decent frequency

00:47:42.120 some you know really like crazy content of course but it's very funny the will stancil show and she

00:47:48.220 did the jd vance show which is just it's kind of you know taking the piss out of some right-wing

00:47:53.100 politics but it's really funny stuff it's very vulgar by the way just typically if you've not

00:47:58.240 seen it but yeah and yeah she can do all that with ai in a fraction of the time and it would

00:48:02.660 we should use that technology when available yeah yeah well one of the things that that i found

00:48:09.720 interesting and this was the thread i pulled on earlier but i think it's been a very interesting

00:48:14.800 cultural phenomenon to me was the politics of short fat otaku and that he went out there and

00:48:24.600 had this sort of mild right-wing position that a lot of us held back like when you started doing

00:48:31.580 youtube and stuff like that yeah but with the rest of the movement all of our opinions have evolved

00:48:36.680 and he still has like all exactly the the mild opinions that we all sort of pretended to have

00:48:44.100 or sometimes sort of did have and then we began to scratch on things like trans research a bit more

00:48:50.260 or you know i i want same-sex attracted people to have the best lives possible it's just like

00:48:58.060 as time has gone on in my own life for example the ones who i know who are sane who are attractive

00:49:04.600 and who are professionally successful and tried to make gay relationships work with a family

00:49:10.600 not a single real instance in my life did it work and these are sane attractive hard-working

00:49:17.680 moral in all other senses people and it didn't work out for them and then that makes me be like

00:49:23.500 well just does it not work like is it hard to make work well i mean i don't know yes i mean just

00:49:31.060 if you're a gay male couple at least yeah i mean what the rates for domestic violence are of all

00:49:39.040 groups it's highest among lesbian women yeah i guess yeah we actually well no no no there is a

00:49:43.860 group that's higher than lesbians which is bisexual right oh bisexuals we have an episode 0.92

00:49:49.020 on this bisexuals are worse than gays or lesbians on basically every met on mental health they're 0.98

00:49:56.320 worse on abuse rates they're worse on graping or getting graped they're worse and it's very weird 0.99

00:50:03.140 because you think of bisexual as like the midpoint between being straight and being a lesbian or being

00:50:08.200 gay so you would expect them to be in the middle not like off the charts on everything and we do

00:50:12.900 an episode trying to understand why that's the case it could be a fun episode for you i bet you

00:50:16.400 you do a good job on that. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't actually know that either.

00:50:19.760 Relating to Shortfire Otaku in particular, I can't stand that guy. So you'll have to forgive

00:50:25.360 me for a minute. He's personally been just awful to me for years. We used to be something like

00:50:29.640 friends or friendly with each other. He's just terrible. But so I can give some insight into 0.80

00:50:34.240 that psychology, which I don't think is unique to him. It's something that happened. Oh, explain it.

00:50:38.820 Why haven't his views changed? Because all of the rest of ours have. There's a lot because there's

00:50:43.980 there were a lot of people who got involved, particularly as it concerned and revolved around

00:50:49.060 Gamergate. And these were people who actually didn't have any concerns for politics. They just

00:50:54.240 wanted to goon. That was really it. There was nothing more important or deeper. It was just 0.99

00:51:00.060 that shallow. It was entirely about sexual ratification. There's been a lot of these

00:51:04.960 people who have been around over the years where it wasn't actually about censorship. It wasn't

00:51:10.400 about making good games first and foremost it was just i just want to goon to this i want sexy

00:51:15.780 characters why are you censoring them yeah that was it i mean but it wasn't about the principle

00:51:19.980 of censorship it really was just that shallow and in dev's case he i think he's just kind of

00:51:25.460 a degenerate you know he's into the trans women or whatever and just i think that was it i think

00:51:32.340 he had he got involved in gamer gate or sort of tertiary related to gamer gate for that and again

00:51:37.660 very common shallow level response and then ended up in politics where he really didn't belong he

00:51:43.180 likes gaming and has ended up and again i think this is common commonly happened not just him

00:51:49.660 ended up sort of just being stuck i have to go with the flow and go well i'm i'm here now i'm

00:51:54.700 making money doing this i guess i have to keep doing something but they don't actually believe

00:51:59.260 in that but they're leftists ultimately and then as the right moves they go well no no but i'm

00:52:04.060 i'm no i'm i'm happy here i was really about this that is a very interesting point and it's also

00:52:11.520 interesting how a portion of the right genuinely converted a portion of that so many people got

00:52:19.600 into morality through gooning right like starting is like a hentai reviewer uh leaflet used to do

00:52:25.680 that too right like morality well it's it's it's a fascinating phenomenon and it's something that

00:52:34.740 i think should be like highlighted more as part of the birth of our movement we have a video where

00:52:39.520 we go on how part of the movement grew out of the online atheist movement actually right like

00:52:44.820 like atheist skeptics were part of our movement in the very early days whereas just like anti-feminist

00:52:49.860 anti-whatever we were we were in the world of internet politics the world of politics politics

00:52:54.860 we didn't think we'd ever touch that we didn't think we'd ever have anything to do with that

00:52:59.220 we wanted sexy women in games and stuff like that it was a simpler time simpler time right

00:53:04.700 and then I think what happened or this is for me you can tell you if it was for you 0.68

00:53:09.100 is getting into those particular battles got me exposed to ideas and research I would not

00:53:17.820 have been exposed to had I not been in those battles for sure I mean I wasn't involved in

00:53:24.100 GamerGate directly. I was actually involved in GamerGate in a very different way than most

00:53:28.100 people in this space. My primary area of research is

00:53:32.060 game studies. I'm a social psychologist with emphasis

00:53:35.940 in game studies. I helped found the National Communication Game Studies Caucus.

00:53:40.220 So when all of the stuff with Anita Sarkeesian was happening, I was

00:53:44.100 in my doctoral school office talking to my advisor and his wife

00:53:48.040 who were the founders of the Game Studies Caucus and we're going, oh no,

00:53:52.280 what is what's happening why is this woman who doesn't know anything about any of our research

00:53:59.260 being put as the face of some sort of and being treated as an academic and being treated seriously

00:54:04.880 I really just wanted people to like actually be aware that the things that she was saying

00:54:09.580 are not accurate and they're not based on any kind of data whatsoever so from that that's how

00:54:14.760 we got involved and I remember it was very hush-hush though even at the time because

00:54:17.800 much like how there was academic sides that were taken in do the games cause violence debate

00:54:23.400 which is one of the greatest academic rap battles of all time the back and forth on that one

00:54:28.480 what is is truly an excellent fantastic read of how the games cause violence people got

00:54:33.800 kind of as they would have said at the time epically owned this is about what 2012 but

00:54:38.800 but then the the feminist stuff and is our games harmful to women specifically none of that

00:54:44.520 literature was being looked at when all of the Gamergate stuff happened no one was looking at

00:54:48.340 the academic literature and we had just founded this game studies caucus that was supposed to be

00:54:51.680 focused on exactly that so I ended up learning about the Gamergate phenomenon entirely from

00:54:57.860 as an academic going oh no what's this like this is we didn't know how to really respond to it and

00:55:04.980 it was hush hush where people didn't want to comment on it at all because they were afraid

00:55:08.980 they would be labeled as right-wing as misogynistic as this that or the other if they just said well

00:55:15.160 if they had gave any kind of public criticism of people like anita sarkeesian that's how it was

00:55:20.100 behind the scenes in in the ivory tower back in yeah well you know now she's happily married

00:55:26.080 to herself yes to herself yes

00:55:28.600 just like the end of that timeline didn't didn't go which is another thing that's that's sort of

00:55:38.480 we've seen with our side is a lot of our side did get happily married and and and did form

00:55:44.860 functional relationships and this is this joke whenever like a right-wing figure gets docks

00:55:51.280 these days he always turns out to be like a muscular guy was like a wife and kids right you

00:55:56.520 know yeah and when a left-wing person gets docks they're like a crazy you know person with like a

00:56:02.120 rap sheet or something yeah yeah long rap sheet and all sorts of very embarrassing photos of them

00:56:06.940 the line to be fair that sometimes happens to the right as well absolutely absolutely well it's been

00:56:13.880 wonderful to have you on i i enjoy talking about this because you're very unique in terms of how

00:56:20.320 long you've been at this do you have any sort of final comments of having been in this movement

00:56:25.080 for so long in terms of how it feels different today versus then or one of the things i found

00:56:31.940 interesting is the sense of community like you seem to have been in the it crowd you know even

00:56:37.520 being friends was like I used to love short fat otaku I got a lot of ideas from his videos I

00:56:42.000 thought they were very insightful back in the day to be in that community to be in that wider friend

00:56:46.420 network are you connected to like the new friend network is that something that's been absorbing

00:56:52.260 you in the in the ways that it's been expanding or yeah how does all that feel I mean yeah sure

00:56:59.360 like you know i i can say sure i have lots of actually part of my job is doing this marketing

00:57:05.480 for wolfings which i'll bring up again wolfings publishing which is our publishing house that you

00:57:09.440 know we're promoting right now but a part of my job in doing marketing for that means reaching

00:57:13.920 out to a bunch of influencers and one of the reasons why they asked me to do this is because

00:57:17.480 well aiden you've been around for 10 years you know everybody and i was like yeah i guess or i

00:57:23.060 would feel like people people know me or referred to me or something so it's like maybe you have a

00:57:26.940 negative opinion maybe you have a positive one but whatever you might have heard my name at least

00:57:31.400 because i've just been around for so long which rather than being approached by somebody that

00:57:35.280 nobody knows and they might go i don't know if this person's legitimate or whatever there may

00:57:39.280 be a benefit there we'll see how it works out i guess but i don't know how people have changed

00:57:43.900 so many of them like i said so many people are still around this event that i'm going to in two

00:57:48.860 weeks very often sargon is a speaker there he's not this year yeah but another i mean one of our

00:57:53.340 main speakers is millennial woes and he's been around forever a lot of people really have been

00:57:58.120 around for a long time but we also have a speaker and harry robinson of lotus eaters will be speaking

00:58:01.960 there i will be speaking there we also have this guy bloundless britannica who's i don't know he's

00:58:06.780 like 22 23 and he's only recently started his channel and really blown up so there's you know

00:58:13.020 it's a constant sort of and then you know we've got people older than us like hey i don't think

00:58:17.760 academic agent will be speaking this year but he's that's sort of it was the event's highly tied to

00:58:22.080 him originally was and he's a generation sort of older than me not in terms of being on youtube but

00:58:26.380 a different he's a couple years older than me and it is just this constant churn though one thing

00:58:31.200 that i i hope that the right wing is able to do is to facilitate and help young people as they get

00:58:37.340 involved in this right to actually yeah be cool with them don't don't try to cut them out or

00:58:43.420 something because they're not in the your old guard club right it is important to well we recently

00:58:48.600 had on basic logic i don't know if you've seen his stuff so yeah he's one of the people also that i

00:58:54.140 want to reach out to on this because i really like his content and he i can offer to connect

00:58:58.840 you with him oh for sure yeah yeah yeah he's done our stuff and he's he's been blowing up like yeah

00:59:04.900 are you trying to join octavian but the biggest issue that basic logic pointed out for his

00:59:12.700 generation was a complete lack of mentorship oh yeah is she real hearing things yeah she's hearing

00:59:18.440 things yeah this happens every time you record about it do you want to show them your your teeth

00:59:22.580 octavian you lost two front teeth you got waiting for christmas on special age but yeah and i had

00:59:31.740 never thought about it until they brought it up that there really is this lack of mentorship that

00:59:36.380 a lot of young younger people would love to engage with an older generation that largely in their

00:59:42.340 notable exceptions is just absent is like checked out retirement communities traveling whatever but

00:59:48.700 like they're not interested in young people and that used to be for thousands of years kind of

00:59:52.820 their thing during this time of life now you do have quite literally an old guard of people

00:59:57.620 because you're 10 15 years out from those yeah that's refusing to leave off you're refusing to

01:00:02.400 quit their jobs as well like many many people are not able to get jobs out of school anymore or out

01:00:06.940 of high school because people are not retiring what they used to because they need the money

01:00:11.520 which i get it's not their fault it's not their fault but also like people just living longer 0.99

01:00:16.460 not leaving office and that's and you're bringing in h1bs and you're making it a lot harder for 0.94

01:00:20.900 young people to even enter but yeah so yeah yeah more people are doing things like social media as 1.00

01:00:24.960 a job yeah it's more people want to do it than be an astronaut from gen z i know that's the famous

01:00:29.220 statistic there i don't know yeah well the thing that's changed for me the most this year and this

01:00:35.560 may not have been a thing for you that feels very different is the online nerd right creator

01:00:42.640 community is way more interconnected now than they were at the beginning of this year like

01:00:48.760 in terms of the collabs that they do you'll regularly see you know like tech tone and goth

01:00:53.980 conservative guy name i always forget and ducks on like doing it like we've had collabs all these

01:01:01.080 people and talk to them a lot offline right and try to help them like us doing this thing with

01:01:06.960 the senate committee to try to get one it started at the project to get nux unbanned and and smuggle

01:01:12.720 the numbers like um i don't know if you're aware of arctotherium but he did a really good long

01:01:18.100 piece about i guess the the end of the open internet that really goes into extensive and

01:01:23.020 detailed uh detail linking to everything on how the platform started in a very skewed way

01:01:30.260 deplatforming and removing certain types of content with a very clear skewed bias and he

01:01:37.660 goes platform by platform after giving a really big overview pointing out also using like really

01:01:43.800 quantitative graphs that words like deplatforming didn't exist until like super yeah and hate speech

01:01:49.800 like these words were not things and now we're like of course deplatforming is a word it's always

01:01:54.800 in the word even when i was a young girl in the 1990s you're like no actually there were there

01:02:00.360 were no platforms yeah we had to come up with these terms yeah i i haven't i guess i have noticed

01:02:06.720 that now that i you mentioned it i have seen people doing a lot more collaboration collaborative

01:02:10.900 work i think maybe it is because there is there's the political energy doesn't know where to go

01:02:16.980 right now i i so many that's why we we talked about earlier what what's going to be the next

01:02:22.400 thing because i think a lot of people are going are also confused as to what ways the the winds

01:02:27.900 are blowing in terms of what will be the next thing that will preoccupy people's time and energy

01:02:33.220 yeah where that political energy will be directed i think they're in a bit of a fugue state

01:02:38.000 particularly after iran because because the right wing got split on that got split pretty heavily

01:02:42.460 on on the iran stuff in a lot of ways well i i think a lot of the so if you look at the iran

01:02:47.460 thing like 80 to 90 percent of maga was pro that i think what happened was that is on the internet

01:02:54.000 there's a lot of third worlders and people don't really realize it and so it felt like it was a

01:02:59.520 50 50 thing in the right on the internet but it was really no you just have a lot more pakistani

01:03:04.680 followers than you realize and and this i think pulled is is what sort of defeated the gripers

01:03:11.560 finally is it pulled them out and sort of made them realize that their positions are not in

01:03:16.820 alignment with a lot of the mainstream right right now octavia do i need to get my bonk stick

01:03:27.880 i i think that's probably largely right well in that because some of the the polling on it though

01:03:36.260 in terms of the favorability towards the iran war itself it it didn't like divide people so much

01:03:40.920 as it turned down the i think the hype particularly after the fascination of charlie kirk people were

01:03:47.380 had so much political energy they wanted to go they wanted to do something about it they wanted

01:03:52.580 to make sure that that didn't happen again and people were very split a lot of people who are

01:03:57.640 my age in particular and i and i think around my age who and a little bit older who lived through

01:04:02.100 gulf war who lived through post 9-11 they think oh no i don't want to go i don't want to act in

01:04:08.580 this quagmire again i've been i've seen this and so i think that that did make people want to

01:04:13.880 particularly when trump had said it wasn't going to happen he had also said it was so he had given

01:04:18.180 you know conflicting messages on that but that's i think how a lot of people felt and they went

01:04:23.280 okay well i my energy has been exhausted because i thought you weren't going to do this and now i

01:04:29.800 feel maybe not betrayed but a little bit like this well where's the wall and where's the deportation

01:04:35.820 where's ice you know why did that stuff fall into the background it is happening why is it not

01:04:39.960 happening at the speeds that you said it would happen people are i think a little bit burned out

01:04:43.740 however the positive way to look at that and i hope what people do is use that to try and find

01:04:49.120 things that they do have in common rather than arguing because i think people are real tired of 0.94

01:04:52.360 arguing as well there's also a longer game which is i think it makes a lot of maybe this is so dumb

01:04:57.180 but i feel like intuitively it makes a lot of sense to do all the unpopular things and tank in

01:05:02.240 the midterms so that people are angry enough at any far left movements that picked up steam

01:05:09.340 in the following two years that you don't take a major hit with the next presidential election

01:05:14.240 so it's got to be working to get it out of the way yeah right now just like if it looks bad if

01:05:20.440 it makes people angry do it now get the backlash so that there's enough time for people to get

01:05:26.000 angry at the backlash otherwise i agree with well i mean and the backlash is starting to look pretty 0.66

01:05:31.120 ridiculous right like the left that we're facing right now is a lot more evil than the left we had

01:05:35.700 before so i hope you're right in your predictions about them going back oh yeah we're i i did

01:05:39.740 recently like a research deep dive well not even really i didn't have to do a deep dive i just went

01:05:43.920 through the dsa's published policies and i'm like whoa they'll just tell you openly i guess who they

01:05:48.480 are that's scary it's a lot more than i thought it was gonna be uh oh yeah you should just read

01:05:55.240 their page i'm like this is what there are reasonable expectations of oh okay yeah i will

01:06:00.280 do then what's an example simone well i mean you pointed out one that was really big but also like

01:06:05.600 oh god hold on i i have some highlights you just researched an episode on this i'm comatose all

01:06:12.720 right this is i'm in my first trimester and it is not it's not working well they want to

01:06:17.600 nationalize corporations they want non-citizens and incarcerated people to have the right to vote

01:06:21.960 they want all individuals to have access to government-funded gender-affirming care

01:06:25.460 all student debt canceled race-based reparations basically limitless immigration and a path to

01:06:32.240 citizenship for everyone it doesn't matter how they got to the country no more electoral college

01:06:37.300 no more president or supreme court and instead a congress-run executive and judiciary chosen by

01:06:43.340 and subordinate to congress so okay wow yeah and it goes on dsa declares for yeah as you said i

01:06:52.080 i didn't know these the extent of that but dsa declares against democracy openly yeah i thought

01:06:56.620 we had to defend democracy well and capitalism capitalism and democracy bad they've got to go

01:07:02.300 and please have the government pay for my gender affirming care and everything else and job you

01:07:07.640 have to have like a basically guaranteed job if you want one you need to you know pretty specific

01:07:12.700 type of government to do that kind of stuff so i think they're just being open about it at this

01:07:16.280 point i mean you're gonna have to be open about it and i think the thing is right now aoc is

01:07:20.320 leading in the prediction markets for becoming the you know democratic nominee and look she's

01:07:27.040 already moving in that direction the national dsa has backed down from endorsing her just so she 0.98

01:07:33.100 can adopt the mainstream platformer and and policies that are necessary for her to run for

01:07:38.180 president right but she's still very much endorsed by the extremely influential new york chapter of 0.98

01:07:43.600 the dsa and i'm sure like technically she holds all of those those views so well i think popularizing

01:07:50.060 the idea which you've been doing longer than we have that eventually a democratic process is

01:07:56.320 likely not going to end in the united states and you want it to end when we're in power um

01:08:02.040 not when the other team's in power and popularizing that idea so when it does eventually happen 0.99

01:08:08.160 everybody doesn't freak out like they did in korea which was very stupid of his own party 0.90

01:08:13.840 being like i can't believe you know we all need to be in the this isn't really working anymore 0.86

01:08:18.700 and they want to grab the flag and run away right you know now i would say this although the the

01:08:25.640 you know left does have its history in terms of openly advocating for communism them being overt

01:08:31.060 about it is a little bit i mean i don't know they really competes with the right both have a lot of

01:08:36.400 theory and and thinkers and people who know a lot about this stuff in terms of yeah if you're in

01:08:41.560 terms of people like kurda sharman who have been talking about how democracy is the god that failed

01:08:46.240 you know, in terms of Hans von Hoppe, you've got a whole bunch of people who have talked about this

01:08:49.940 stuff for a very long time on the quote-unquote right. The right has a lot of academic and

01:08:54.620 theory behind, you know, academic work and theory behind it to say, okay, democracy has flaws.

01:09:00.540 The left has really worshipped sort of, you know, like it's our sacred democracy. That's what they

01:09:06.180 always say. This is a threat to our democracy. Trump is a threat to our democracy was such

01:09:09.580 a refrain. This, that, or the other is a threat to our democracy. Well, now that's a lot of,

01:09:15.340 you know work for them to to make well i think up with it what they mean by that we saw this was

01:09:21.280 the no kings protest we saw this was a you know against an elected official who won the plurality

01:09:27.260 of the vote right like the when they say x is a democracy or a threat to the democracy they don't

01:09:33.200 actually mean like the democracy they mean the bureaucrats having control right which by the way

01:09:40.000 is how almost everyone actually feels about it everyone wants to win everyone wants their side

01:09:43.920 to win and so that inherently creates a conflict in democracy and just well wait i lost and so i

01:09:50.980 didn't get what i what i want for any because it's not just something you know pointless like

01:09:55.220 my sports my favorite sports team lost this is my future lost my security my safety the things that

01:10:01.680 i value lost it's very you know the my the future of my children has been lost potentially at least

01:10:07.900 were put on hold and so that's why politics inherently gives people quite animated but it

01:10:13.280 is ultimately about when we lose and people inherently will take sides in it and that you

01:10:18.500 know that is also in and of itself a problem with democracy because it means that people are always

01:10:22.840 divided because your future your children's future is dependent on somebody else going along and

01:10:28.900 voting the same way as you and it's important for people to remember that when the left has

01:10:35.060 historically won democracies they make it so the right can't win again this happened in germany

01:10:39.520 where the conservatives won the plurality to get the vote but the parties colluded to prevent the

01:10:45.100 ADL from having any power this happened in France where the two leftist parties ran in a 50 whatever

01:10:51.620 way to prevent the the French conservatives from winning and we see this in institutions like the

01:10:57.300 UN and the EU why when's the last time they had a conservative person in power when's the last

01:11:02.380 time they had a conservative voice like never it's once the left has captured the institutions

01:11:07.200 you will never see it again and the this is an existential fight and it's not one we have to

01:11:16.120 keep playing i think we need to normalize some ideas first we need to normalize some inevitabilities

01:11:21.460 first but within a couple election cycles there's going to be a choice as does america let the

01:11:29.560 barbarians win or do we transition from a uh republic to an empire and i'm i'm all about the 0.76

01:11:38.520 i mean that's octavian right there let's yeah let's go i i certainly hope that's the outcome

01:11:44.200 because that sure would be my my my favorite one of the two it's one of those things like

01:11:50.780 it branches the divide though i think both the left and the right in the end implicitly prefer

01:11:56.000 empire and colonialism because in the end when people are arguing for immigration they're really 0.98

01:12:01.360 arguing for just colonialism 2.0 like let us let us modernize these backward people by bringing 1.00

01:12:07.120 them to our land instead of this time going to theirs oh that's a great episode Simone can you 1.00

01:12:11.880 outline one on is immigrate unrestricted immigration colonialism 2.0 it is it is

01:12:17.160 colonialism 2.0 it's it's it's it's explicit pretty much so you know in the end yes everyone

01:12:21.940 everyone wants an empire it is it's it crosses the aisle and that's great woohoo good yay yeah 0.84

01:12:28.420 that's just it's just who runs that empire the islamist or the west right yeah it depends on 0.91

01:12:33.920 what yeah what kind of empire yeah that does matter indeed yeah all right well it was wonderful 0.80

01:12:39.460 to have you on yeah thank you for having me if people have not seen her channel two channels

01:12:44.740 actually now which is really important i'd suggest it if you like this channel it's very much like

01:12:49.360 a science channel first and foremost right but it talks about naughty science

01:12:54.620 oh uh science the science civil one or a science civil yeah science civil is the new channel and

01:13:00.940 that's more science focused right and then yes it's gonna be i mean most of what i've done is

01:13:05.000 just it's not it's not political but it will be just like for science i'm just gonna i'm just

01:13:10.280 tell you the truth about it it's not it's not going to be in any way censored or you know shine

01:13:14.300 away from topics that might offend people in any kind of way, but it is just science. So whereas

01:13:20.500 the Aiden Paladin channel, I'm mostly going, my main channel, my older channel, mostly for

01:13:25.080 scientific topics or the intersection of science and explicitly politics. So, you know, I recently

01:13:31.680 did one about, like I said, talking about gender politics. I did one before about elections, the

01:13:36.160 psychology behind elections, actually. So that kind of stuff will be more explicitly political

01:13:40.320 and the stuff on the science civil channel will be more variety science less focused yeah that's

01:13:45.440 great can you learn about the beowulf foundation yeah oh yes so explicitly what we're promoting

01:13:50.480 right now is our publishing house wilfings which is w y l f i n g s and we have a ton of different

01:13:58.160 books like we have the entire collected works of major general richard hilton if you're interested

01:14:03.040 in military history in particular i would definitely check those out imperial obituary

01:14:07.680 The Mysterious Death of the British Empire, particularly if you're interested in British

01:14:11.380 military history. His books are fantastic. As I mentioned before, like The Roman, The Life of

01:14:15.980 Enoch Powell by Simon Heffer, that book was out of, no one was publishing it. It was in many senses

01:14:21.100 a banned book because Enoch Powell is a, you know, no-no right-wing figure in history. We publish it

01:14:27.580 and it's not the only one. We also have some other books that have previously been out of print. And

01:14:32.940 then we do also have, for example, I mentioned Ed Dutton. He does the, his channel is The Jolly

01:14:37.300 heretic here on youtube we have his most recent book the quaker question which is uh he had a new

01:14:42.820 book oh my gosh he does and anti-quaker i think i've not read it yet i i've read a little bit of

01:14:49.200 it but i i think he just goes into sort of the idea that the quakers actually are the ones running

01:14:55.100 society secretly from pulling the strings we've we've argued that as well yeah really yeah okay

01:15:00.940 we argue that wokeism is a form of it descended from quaker values and culture

01:15:05.760 that it's a form of quaker culture that is fighting against right-wing culture which is a

01:15:12.760 form of puritan culture or at least like the new right culture is a form of puritan culture yeah

01:15:18.140 but a lot of people are unaware of this because quakers have distorted the actual puritan positions 0.94

01:15:23.020 yeah like one of the things we point out about puritans that a lot of people are unaware of

01:15:26.180 is until the 19th century a lot of puritan works had to be censored because they were so sexually

01:15:31.560 explicit the puritans were not an anti-sex people they were they would have been if they were in the

01:15:36.700 modern era but monogamous marriages and kids which is very much like what our faction has become

01:15:45.700 because they they they sort of had this belief of like if you if you're shying away from something

01:15:53.240 and you're still letting it control you.

01:15:55.040 Ah, I see, yeah.

01:15:56.740 I've not read it.

01:15:57.940 I've read some of Ed's other books,

01:15:59.840 but this is a little bit outside

01:16:00.920 of what I typically knew him to cover.

01:16:02.880 So this is actually,

01:16:03.440 knowing you've covered it as well,

01:16:04.820 I'll definitely have to actually read it myself.

01:16:06.700 But we have that book.

01:16:07.740 We are about to publish my friend, Scrump.

01:16:09.740 He's published a book with us before,

01:16:11.260 which is, oh my gosh,

01:16:14.220 it's not on my list here,

01:16:15.420 but it's Anti-Politics Volume 1.

01:16:16.640 There we go.

01:16:17.020 That's his first book.

01:16:17.640 It's about to publish Anti-Politics Volume 2.

01:16:20.460 So yeah, we've got all kinds of stuff

01:16:22.060 that's both contemporary, things that are banned, and things that are just difficult to find. It's

01:16:26.140 largely, it's everything from like politics to history, everything in between. And we also do

01:16:30.880 publish basically a yearly magazine that includes works from people, predominantly in the British

01:16:35.820 right, who have written pieces for that magazine, the Corn Creek. So yeah, check out Wolfing's

01:16:41.740 Publishing. It's part of a broader organization that is trying to bring all sorts of things under

01:16:47.300 the same umbrella so that you can support other people who are ideologically aligned while just

01:16:52.620 buying things that you're you already want to buy or be interested in anyway you know great and if

01:16:56.700 there's any way i i'm happy to work with you guys with rfab if any way you want to obviously rfab

01:17:02.380 is probably too coded because like one of we do not safe for work like chatbots and stuff like

01:17:08.920 that as well on the site which is probably not okay with a lot of right-wing organizations but

01:17:13.600 nobody in our community cares so you know if somebody wants to do that stuff that's that's

01:17:18.940 the internet people like oh my god what if a kid sees it it's like bro if a kid's on the internet

01:17:22.900 okay and and and they're gonna get one shot by seeing something they're already one shot like

01:17:29.140 yeah yeah lost that game already they can type into google you know that's this i don't i don't

01:17:35.300 care about any of that but yeah let's always get annoyed by these discord controversies

01:17:39.040 can you believe that x was on somebody's it's always always high school forever that's what

01:17:47.120 that is it's just oh yeah i'm like oh yourself what are you talking about anyway have fun

01:17:53.820 have a great day go check out her stuff check out these events if you're in the area and yeah

01:17:59.780 it's great to have you on yeah great thank you so much for having me we went really long

01:18:04.820 oops oopsies happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday dear octavian

01:18:20.580 happy birthday to you now before you blow your candles out make a big big wish okay

01:18:31.620 I wish.

01:18:32.480 No, no, no. 1.00

01:18:33.400 Toasty Octavian's got a wish, okay? 0.89

01:18:35.640 Yeah, you'll wish him for your birthday. 0.95

01:18:38.480 Yeah, keep it a secret.

01:18:39.440 Don't tell anyone.

01:18:41.960 Oh, no, not for me.

01:18:44.640 Octavian?

01:18:45.460 Man down, but don't worry.

01:18:46.840 You can still make your wish.

01:18:47.720 Make your wish.

01:18:48.640 Make your wish.

01:18:49.740 Okay.

01:18:50.600 Go.

01:18:51.620 Now you can blow out your candles.

01:18:55.600 Now.

01:18:56.340 Now.

01:18:58.080 Whoa.

01:18:59.420 Okay.

01:18:59.780 Yay! 0.90

Based Camp - August 24, 2026

Guest Aydin Paladin： The First Right Wing Youtuber We Watched

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