Based Camp - August 27, 2026


How Erasing Blackface Erased Black Cultureļ¼š The Uncle Tom Effect


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00:00:00.000 Hello, Simone! Recently, Target has been in hot water because they decided to release Blackface as a Halloween costume.
00:00:08.960 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:00:09.900 They say this was by accident, but it's hilarious.
00:00:16.320 But I wanted to take this opportunity, so we'll go into this incident,
00:00:19.160 But what's more interesting is I want to take this opportunity to explore how erasing blackface and misceral shows from America's memory and cultural identity was the tool that was used to erase most of black culture.
00:00:41.400 And when I say this, people will think, oh, he's exaggerating.
00:00:48.080 No, they'll think, oh, he's speed running a YouTube ban again.
00:00:54.580 What are you doing?
00:00:56.180 So I guess we'll call it the Uncle Tom effect is what I'll call this.
00:01:01.660 So when you hear.
00:01:02.700 No, let's call it the Aunt Jemima effect.
00:01:04.540 Come on. 0.69
00:01:04.860 She was our woman. 0.99
00:01:05.760 She was our lady.
00:01:06.480 No, Uncle Tom's a much better example.
00:01:08.160 When you hear the term Uncle Tom, what do you think?
00:01:12.460 Somebody calls someone an Uncle Tom.
00:01:14.600 Okay.
00:01:14.840 what they are saying is that they are not a good black person they are somebody who kowtows to
00:01:21.700 white people they are somebody who um is obsequious to white people and tries to fit in with white
00:01:28.800 society okay okay i'm looking up uncle tom's cabin so uncle tom in the book is a character who
00:01:36.060 dies protecting black people attempting to escape slavery okay where you go yeah it's it's it's an
00:01:43.360 anti-slavery uh oh yeah the anti-slavery novel it's by harriet beecher stowe she was but it's
00:01:48.440 not like the character is poorly written or anything the book became one of the most popular
00:01:52.580 books in american history the character is introduced he saves a white girl from drowning
00:01:58.560 he is then sold to a very mean slave driver away from his wife and children so away from his wife
00:02:06.020 and children and then he ends up being beaten to death saving uh two other black women who were
00:02:13.360 attempting to escape in his last words are wishing to uh protect the the for for mercy on the people
00:02:20.920 person who's beating him to death and it's very clearly like a jesus analogy right now this is
00:02:26.720 not a figure that should be shamed in black culture this is not a figure whose name should
00:02:32.040 be associated with shame no i mean it's a figure who is clearly mistreated by white slave owners so
00:02:37.860 he's one of the most important figures literary figures in blacks being freed from slavery to
00:02:46.280 begin with and so how did the white yeah how his name becomes synonymous if you talk to a black
00:02:52.520 teen today okay with turning on black people for real oh yeah harry beatrice was white okay sorry
00:02:58.800 anyway maybe that's the problem this is what we are going to continue to see this particular effect
00:03:04.780 around all of these critical moments of black history if you remove the minstrel shows you
00:03:12.460 remove cakewalking if you remove cakewalking then you remove the link cakewalking
00:03:19.140 it's a cakewalk is an expression meaning that it's easy no cakewalking was a style of dancing
00:03:26.540 that African slaves did.
00:03:28.440 Now, today it's considered very offensive
00:03:30.660 and no one does it
00:03:31.620 because the very name of it
00:03:32.980 came from the concept of
00:03:34.720 we will have the slaves come
00:03:36.580 and dance against each other 0.96
00:03:38.100 for a piece of cake
00:03:39.620 that the master would give them.
00:03:41.120 Oh yeah, a cakewalk is a 19th century
00:03:43.160 African-American partner dance 0.90
00:03:44.720 that originated on southern plantations,
00:03:47.120 which also evolved into a modern idiom
00:03:49.340 in a digital music software name.
00:03:52.140 Okay, I just didn't know.
00:03:56.540 i just heard cakewalk like oh it would be so easy to be a cakewalk well yeah that that also
00:04:24.540 the modern idiom as easy as a cakewalk
00:04:26.560 became like what the slave owners said
00:04:28.120 because they looked derisively at these.
00:04:30.020 It was like entertainment for them 0.93
00:04:32.420 to have the blacks do the cakewalk.
00:04:34.020 But anyway, so you...
00:04:35.880 Oh, it's a cute dance.
00:04:37.000 If you remove cakewalking from the cultural history,
00:04:40.840 then you remove the descendant forms of music
00:04:44.640 that came from cakewalking,
00:04:46.740 which include ragtime, jazz, blues, rock and roll,
00:04:52.740 um basically every form of american music evolved from the cakewalk dances that were constructed
00:05:02.520 and so blacks can say wait why did we erase this it's like well because it's clearly a racist
00:05:07.800 derogatory thing they were doing and it's the same thing that happened with uncle tom's cabin
00:05:12.460 so with uncle tom's cabin they began to hold tom shows right and this was the stage play
00:05:19.980 production of uncle tom's cabin oh okay straight to broadway that's great productions of uncle
00:05:26.320 tom's cabin uh you ended up having um um uh the the the characters would begin to act
00:05:38.420 more comedically or more in ways that represented normal uh black tropes and so they would act
00:05:47.020 obsequiously they would act in a way that where the uncle tom moniker might make sense and so
00:05:52.440 black culture began to use the evoked set what they had seen more recently the stage play instead
00:06:00.680 of the critical character that sparked a huge part of the abolition movement wow um and they
00:06:08.940 then denigrated the entire line because of this one connection to actual racism take something
00:06:16.500 like the mistral show if you take people are familiar with the mistral show um where uh black
00:06:23.540 people were well first it began was whites doing in blackface uh sort of caricatures that were
00:06:30.460 derogatory of black people on stage and um then these evolved into often not necessarily derogatory
00:06:38.960 but endearing caricatures and caricatures which were the ancestor of huge amounts of what we
00:06:47.660 today think of as the three stooges for example most comedy of this period was done in the style
00:06:55.740 that was pioneered by the minstrel show and hold on if i i'll check this but weren't minstrel
00:07:01.520 shows originally things that took place in england and europe that you know there would
00:07:06.820 be traveling minstrels and they would make jokes around prevailing tropes at that time so it's yeah
00:07:12.820 the point being is is when you're like oh this is a racist against black minstrel no no no this
00:07:18.080 existed before slavery like black slavery in the united states right yeah the the it's like when
00:07:24.940 you have the naccp fighting to take down andy and amos um which a third of americans watched at its
00:07:34.440 height which had caricatures that at its time were not dissimilar to the caricatures white
00:07:40.740 comedians were playing um for example the three stooges for example uh i'll go through a list
00:07:49.540 later of numerous white comedians that did similar bits uh but it was just normal at the time um and
00:07:55.600 it removed a huge amount of black representation but then also removed the link in american history
00:08:01.140 where you don't see that this form of uh the the minstrel shows that did have racism in them but
00:08:09.640 it also launched the careers of the first major black actors in america it also launched the
00:08:16.840 first black theatrical company in america it also brought black people to broadway for the first
00:08:22.820 time in america and it it style that it pioneered later became the american sitcom it later became
00:08:31.120 the american night show and i guess trying to erase that or disassociate them from any form
00:08:38.220 of blackness removes both black credit and black influence but also very positive connotations and
00:08:44.300 performances from black artists right and what's what's worse is that black history that this is
00:08:51.560 this is the bigger part is that groups like the nacp have been like we're gonna erase everything
00:08:59.040 that is tied to racism and it's like bro black american culture is tied to racism
00:09:06.280 and when i say it's tied to racism it's tied to racism that flowed both ways if you want to get
00:09:13.880 understanding what i mean by this do you know how blacks developed the musical style that
00:09:19.240 went alongside cakewalks and the cakewalk itself
00:09:22.500 they saw white people dancing in like ballroom style dances and they thought it was funny
00:09:32.240 and so it's them making fun of white people because that's what it kind of looks like
00:09:35.640 yes that's exactly what it is the cakewalk is the black version of a mistral show
00:09:41.380 of white people that's really great it's each group iteratively doing a mistral show of each
00:09:48.820 other making fun of each other yeah and let's just to be clear renaissance minstrels go back
00:09:54.480 to the 12th century um right but the point being i just want to be clear on that is to understand
00:10:01.540 and to truly appreciate the way that america was able to develop this huge slew of artistic
00:10:10.800 thematic and theatrical styles isn't that necessarily black people are musical geniuses
00:10:18.780 or something like that, right?
00:10:20.520 It's, or Black culture is uniquely rich
00:10:23.020 in theatrical or musical tradition.
00:10:25.460 It's that having two cultures constantly
00:10:28.520 and aggressively riffing off of each other
00:10:31.440 allowed for expansion of musical and theatrical styles.
00:10:37.960 And that is what gave us a diversity
00:10:40.520 that allowed America to culturally conquer the world.
00:10:44.260 And Black people's role in that has been erased
00:10:47.740 by trying to dissociate because when you think about it something like blackface more broadly
00:10:52.160 that allowed for this explosion in black descended cultural groups it was attached to racism but it
00:11:01.000 wasn't attached to the type of aggressive racism that we now associate blackface with right like
00:11:07.040 it's not the same it doesn't have the same history as the n-word it doesn't have the same history as
00:11:13.120 slavery it was uh i guess closer to the cakewalk you could say right like one group being like the
00:11:21.720 way this other group is doing things looks ridiculous to me let's re redo it and add a
00:11:29.140 bunch of like cultural flares to it and this is where you get the true horror of this and how it
00:11:35.760 left when when you as a black person couldn't be proud of all these genuine cultural achievements
00:11:40.940 because those were tied to racism they had to invent new history and this is where you see the
00:11:47.580 beginning of the modern black culture that came out of the rap industry in like the 1980s and
00:11:53.680 stuff like that because this is when they had finally won all the victories this is when
00:11:57.880 andy and amos is finally off the air this is when all of their connections to their actual history
00:12:03.820 had been cut down and they're like the naccp i imagine being like a the onceler having cut down
00:12:12.000 the the lorax being there like stop stop shutting down every part of genuine black history that this
00:12:17.980 country has and then there's nothing left it's a desert and look at our video if you want to see
00:12:23.440 the results of this called the zombification of black culture where we go over how blacks went
00:12:27.360 from having out of children a child out of marriages at a rate half that of rights it was
00:12:32.600 only at five percent when whites with at ten percent to a rate this like 78 percent um like
00:12:37.740 in in just a few decades as well it really happened over a fairly short time period
00:12:41.660 the destruction of black culture once you erase this history and you you see it because simone
00:12:48.160 you may not understand how severe it is or how grotesque it is but apparently not splash mountain
00:12:53.440 so splash mountain um got turned into tiana's adventure or whatever by your adventure yeah
00:13:00.520 so do you i'm just wondering was your like brief understanding of history do you understand how
00:13:05.740 absolutely grotesque that is that they got rid of splash mountain right because oh my gosh i follow
00:13:13.040 all these like disney vloggers and stuff yeah it was seen as a travesty this was a piece of disney
00:13:17.700 history no no that's not why it's important okay why what is splash mountain based on
00:13:24.260 oh like appellation culture and briar rabbit splash mountain is based on briar rabbit yeah
00:13:31.980 a jack tail briar rabbit i know i i just said i just said briar rabbit is not from appellation
00:13:37.580 culture isn't it no it was influenced and twisted a bit by the jack tails archetypes
00:13:45.160 briar rabbit was a ethnologist who went around to enslaved black communities and collected all of
00:13:53.260 their local mythology and then he built that mythology into a series of children's books
00:13:59.440 those children's books are the briar rabbit mythology oh wait yeah there's something about
00:14:05.180 a car baby is that why they had to cancel it no no it's not why they had to connect briar rabbit
00:14:12.160 had direct connections to african genuine african myth tales oh my gosh wait wait wait wait so they
00:14:20.940 they erased a ride that was themed around genuine african folktales
00:14:26.960 with a ride that was like some weirdly i mean i i like i like tiana she's a good character yeah
00:14:34.840 but the princess and the toad is a european folktale oh my god you're right oh that's bad
00:14:40.880 oh no no it's worse than you think because you know the type of music that they played on the
00:14:48.420 ride before good banjo music banjo music do you know what the banjo is i don't know but you're
00:14:58.040 gonna say it's black but i thought it was an african instrument that was brought over by the
00:15:02.980 slaves it was on pantations no way hold on origins of banjo though oh my gosh the modern banjo was
00:15:14.540 created by enslaved africans and their descendants in the caribbean and colonial north america
00:15:18.740 drawing on west africans gourd bodied loot traditions of course it's shaped like a
00:15:22.880 oh my god the entire ride was one of the most authentic oh no dude true african true black
00:15:35.000 history oh my god have but like where i didn't they got they got rid of it because i think
00:15:41.860 people were accusing disneyland of it's racist they're like this ride's racist we can't although
00:15:47.780 there was nothing about it was racist because the character that was used as the framing device
00:15:54.400 for the briar rabbit stories was an enslaved man telling these stories to a white child oh for
00:16:01.600 ffs um and they said this is an offensive oh no no no no no no no okay i remember this splash
00:16:08.640 mountain was changed to remove its association with the controversial 1946 disney film song of
00:16:14.580 the south because don't forget that at the very end they played zippity-doo-dah but i guess the
00:16:20.180 formerly enslaved man you're talking about is the character in song of the south which i remember
00:16:24.680 is the character this is the guy the guy who has who is a positive relationship and note here i i
00:16:34.420 want to be very clear about this when you eradicate any view of real black history real black history
00:16:44.100 involved many many instances of loving genuinely paternal relationships between slaves and white
00:16:55.700 children okay there are many instances in which a sweet slave who genuinely had nothing but love
00:17:03.520 for a particular child told them stories that were passed down from parent to child
00:17:11.480 all the way back to Africa. And I think when you look at the popularity of something like
00:17:17.020 Briar Rabbit, even among white Southern culture, these were stories I was read as a kid. They
00:17:21.760 were stories I was deeply familiar with as a kid. They represent the moment that was captured in
00:17:29.140 that movie but that you know and it's not just that too it's like i remember from my childhood
00:17:34.320 watching old like shirley temple movies and there there were definitely similar characters in some
00:17:39.880 of those movies like just a really nice both like older black men and older black women and that
00:17:45.660 definitely for like me as a kid shaped the way that i probably came to subconsciously view black
00:17:51.620 people's like oh these are really nice people like i don't know the baggage or history but it
00:17:55.340 was also the tropes that were available to black people when you tell a black person you can't when
00:18:01.980 you grow up feeling this way you can't have a positive relationship with a white child
00:18:06.260 that's racist then you invent rap culture then you invent the anti-police culture then you invent
00:18:14.160 the crime culture these things yeah what's sad is um oh what's that movie that the the help
00:18:21.600 there's the movie the help that does depict a modern relationship between a black nanny slash
00:18:27.520 housemaid um in the 1960s 1950s south um and a white child who's her charge and she's really
00:18:35.900 sweet they have a really sweet relationship but the only way they are able to make that work in
00:18:39.780 the movie is that the mother is dismissive and abusive toward her child you remember where she's
00:18:45.120 like you are kind you are important it's like she keeps saying these sweet affirmations to the child
00:18:50.160 because the child is constantly demeaned by her mother so the only way they were able to make
00:18:53.560 that relationship look positive is by making the mother an absolute monster which is that's really
00:18:58.480 sad um that and well of course the whole movie was about racial tensions um i i understand so
00:19:03.900 but the point here being the wider point i'm making is yes okay the song of the south as a
00:19:09.960 movie captured the truth of how black culture ended up influencing what today is american
00:19:18.620 culture what today is pan-american culture yeah with with some of americans america's culture
00:19:24.280 sorry american culture's best features right and some of black culture's best features sure
00:19:30.640 character in that was not like witless or something like that he was depicted as wise
00:19:37.140 he was depicted as caring he was depicted as loving but that didn't fit the narrative the
00:19:45.100 NAACP wanted young black people seeing because they didn't like the additional context that it
00:19:53.180 evolved from. But to get to his character, to get to the wise black man trope or whatever that you
00:20:11.720 often have come in and like give advice to a character in a movie you have to go through
00:20:16.240 the minstrel shows and when you tear all that out what you get in its place is the the the
00:20:28.500 a completely invented which is what i love princess and the frog and princess and the frog
00:20:36.540 is a european story being redone on what is frankly while it isn't an offensive racist
00:20:44.500 caricature of the south it is actually more of a racist caricature of what life was like during
00:20:51.980 that period then uncle remus was well also they they have some pretty negative stereotypes around
00:20:59.040 voodoo culture in that well hoodoo and voodoo culture hoodoo is when black people practiced
00:21:04.300 it but yeah um oh wait so what voodoo is only practiced by white people well no no voodoo is
00:21:09.040 the culture from the islands hoodoo is the culture from it's the distinction doesn't really matter
00:21:13.160 and they treat them as the same thing in the movie okay the point being is that even like if
00:21:17.740 you look at dr faciliate in the in the movie oh is that his game god you have a good memory and
00:21:23.460 you look at things like the um well there's a great song about it i love his song it's great
00:21:28.280 it's a really good he's a great character but he's not depicted flatteringly right you look at the
00:21:33.880 you know pin cushion voodoo dolls and stuff like this that you see that has nothing to do with
00:21:40.120 voodoo or hoodoo that's actually a european tradition oh good heavens it only became
00:21:45.240 associated with voodoo and hoodoo during the voodoo scare of the i think it was the 1980s
00:21:50.500 um so wait you mean the same like this this this satan that the satanic scare that demonized
00:21:58.800 voodoo and hoodoo there was a sister scare to the satanic panic i think or it might have been a bit
00:22:03.100 before okay it might have been a bit earlier than that when they would did a bunch of like
00:22:07.460 exploitation films around it but the scare that happened around these traditions
00:22:12.480 is what dr facilier is based on not after actual oh gosh okay so yeah they they both demonize it
00:22:21.860 but also couch it from a caricature created by people who hated it actual racist caricature
00:22:28.160 with bad both bad understandings and and malicious framing wow this makes it so much worse
00:22:35.820 uncle remus is not maliciously framed right oh no and think about the things you can't talk about
00:22:42.580 like in american culture um situations in the south uh began to become known as tar babies
00:22:51.060 right like because of the stories of briar rabbit right um and so these were white people who were
00:22:58.800 using a phrase like when you got into a sticky situation you're like oh that's a tar baby right
00:23:02.980 that i knew from growing up because i remember the story of briar rabbit and the tar baby
00:23:07.520 right um and then black people said that's a racist term you can't say it because it was
00:23:16.180 in a minority context uses a racial slur and now all of a sudden you can't use it in its other
00:23:24.400 context as well and that's erasing black culture black culture's effect on american culture and
00:23:33.900 when people go down this particular rabbit hole and and genuinely think like what you see in
00:23:39.660 princess and the frog you see the caricature of the um big fair and everything like the
00:23:47.660 mardi gras oh this big character of and even in princess and the frog you see a friendship
00:23:55.480 between a wealthy white family and a black girl um and yet it's not a racist caricature because
00:24:05.780 oh well it doesn't follow these exact tropes it doesn't point out that not every slave white
00:24:13.160 relationship was entirely a negative one and that the situation was actually and she they weren't
00:24:17.880 she wasn't a slave yeah well yeah but the relationship she has with this white family
00:24:23.000 is um very paternalistic on the white family's behalf sure and there's an obvious power distance 0.93
00:24:29.800 yeah there's an obvious power distance her mom works as a maid for the girl if i remember
00:24:36.120 correctly um and if i remember correctly it's very clear that the white family is i just i'm
00:24:43.620 gonna go on a side here the princess and the frog while i do think it's a sort of grotesque
00:24:48.740 that they could replace real black culture with it i do think it's a genuinely good disney movie
00:24:53.820 i know i love almost there it's that's a great song too it teaches good work ethic almost there
00:24:59.000 i think is great she's probably one of my favorite disney princesses in terms of her attitude
00:25:03.100 she'd make a great wife she's like the one disney princess where i'm like yeah you can really marry 1.00
00:25:07.340 this yeah i'd want my daughters to be into that kind of disney princess but not just she would 0.99
00:25:11.640 make a good wife they also did a very very good job with her white friend and her family oh yeah 1.00
00:25:17.880 because typically you get her character and she's bitchy or shellfish or unaware of her relative
00:25:26.160 privilege or unaware of how her actions could make the other person feel bad and it's told very
00:25:32.600 subtly um an example of this do you remember at the end where she needs a gown and the girl is
00:25:41.440 like well you can just take one of my gowns right and then she gives her a blue gown and the problem
00:25:48.680 is is you've seen her closet she wears nothing but prank frilly outfits this is clearly a gown
00:25:56.040 that she had bought specifically for her friend knowing she wouldn't have a gown
00:26:00.600 done up in her friend's style and then pretended it was her own gown to not make her friend yeah
00:26:08.220 because tiana would never say yes to having a gift because it's shown that tiana would never
00:26:11.820 say yes or the way that they give tiana money where they order a bunch of stuff from her
00:26:16.160 as an excuse oh i'll just order a bunch of stuff for you to give you money it's it's shown very 0.90
00:26:22.100 sweetly and throughout the entire show um that well i mean and this character thought she was
00:26:28.000 gonna marry the prince the moment she realizes that oh no the real prince is someone who tiana
00:26:32.620 loves she's happy for her she wants her to do her thing um probably good for her too because
00:26:40.400 then she goes after the prince's younger brother and that's a good way to get that you know become
00:26:44.520 really good with his sister-in-law you know um if you're gonna if you're gonna go for that go for
00:26:51.660 you know yeah get your bag yeah yeah get your bag um but uh it's such a shame that that's sort of
00:26:59.360 the last of that type of disney movie that was ever made like the last of the good disney movies
00:27:03.960 yeah the the villains post dr fasalia have sucked um no the villains have just been the heroines i
00:27:12.500 mean look except for tomateo tomateo is pretty good i don't remember tomateo is the giant crab
00:27:18.540 from Moana one. Oh yeah. He's yeah. Shiny. Very good. Very good. Yes. Um, but no, this is,
00:27:30.240 this is, uh, where when you see something like the NAACP, when you burn down with, like,
00:27:37.660 I honestly don't understand how anyone thought black culture was going to survive this
00:27:41.360 ripping out everything that racism had ever touched. Yeah. Or I mean, like just,
00:27:48.540 a lot of, you know, if obviously there's baggage, but I don't know, like a positive
00:27:56.700 depiction is a positive depiction. Like the Aunt Jemima restaurant that was super popular for a
00:28:03.040 long period of time. Like it was a popular family restaurant that people liked. Aunt Jemima syrup
00:28:09.560 bottles. Like I remember having them as a kid and I always wanted them because it was a nice lady
00:28:14.560 an address it wasn't like i'm gonna dehumanize these people there were restaurants that were
00:28:20.240 meant to dehumanize black people um right and there are restaurants that are meant to dehumanize
00:28:25.020 busty women but like i don't know we don't call those and this is the thing that gets me right
00:28:31.680 is the one type of restaurant gets removed the other type of restaurant remains and in the 0.98
00:28:38.220 process of ripping out that restaurant you end up ripping out a bunch of stuff that actually
00:28:43.500 preserved and glorified black culture yeah i mean similar to like rainforest cafes to be like this
00:28:49.740 is you know an insult to the concept of rainforests well yeah it is but it also like gets a lot of
00:28:55.060 young kids into the idea of rainforests and conservation and frogs and like it's it is it
00:29:01.160 is a piece of ambassadorship which though problematic has its merits well i mean we've
00:29:08.060 seen this in the school system even when i was a kid they're already beginning to phase out
00:29:11.140 huckleberry finn because it used the n-word too much right like they just i don't know censor
00:29:15.720 just that one word well i think they did in some but i i don't it's it's the character's name um
00:29:21.660 wait inward jim oh i forgot that uh when i talk about the restaurants meant to dehumanize people
00:29:28.900 i'm talking about stuff like coon chicken inn um oh stuff like aunt jemima it clearly wasn't
00:29:35.500 meant to dehumanize black people i didn't know there was a place called coon chicken inn good
00:29:40.180 based on a caricature which people have labeled as racist like the mammy caricature that said
00:29:47.820 it's important to differentiate caricatures that have racial tones and caricatures that are meant
00:29:55.540 to here's what i mean most other groups when i grew up my school had a picture this was on all
00:30:03.800 of our gyms um i remember it very clearly it was a little irishman with his fists up like this oh
00:30:10.740 yeah no isn't that a just a sports team mascot the fighting irish right yeah um and that's that's for
00:30:17.120 the specific sports team though i think other sports teams have used it it's actually a common
00:30:21.440 sports team mascot the fighting irish a little fighting irish yeah we all know exactly what you
00:30:27.940 mean but the point i'm making here is that if you go in and you eradicate you say we don't want that
00:30:36.180 anymore you erase part of what is genuine irish culture right when notre dame when you get notre
00:30:43.620 dame something that is a uh a caricature so let me give you an example of what i mean by when you
00:30:51.620 erase the caricature you erase the culture oh no what no they're trying to erase the fighting irish
00:30:57.760 the the old logo is him being like and the new logo is just him marching forward with a football
00:31:03.180 with a resting bitch face that's so annoying it is really annoying everybody knows the irish are
00:31:10.200 quick to fight yeah come on man people yeah even my favorite irish comedian on youtube has confirmed
00:31:16.260 this um what's russell crowe irish or something just going around the world fighting people
00:31:22.180 what i don't i don't know but that sounds great so let's just believe it so yeah check that
00:31:27.320 he loves to act but he loves one thing more fight around the world he fights his directors
00:31:33.160 and he fights his fans it's a problem no one understands if there's two things he loves it's
00:31:38.240 fighting and fighting around the world no no the the here's what i'll explain this will immediately
00:31:44.220 make sense to you and be like oh my god yeah like that is actually kind of gruesome so you go to a
00:31:48.120 black person and you tell them growing up you know what's disgusting this depiction of uh black
00:31:55.440 of people getting together and doing a barbecue and frying eating fried chicken and eating
00:32:00.980 watermelon and playing music and um and and that's a disgusting caricature and then you know the the
00:32:08.400 granddad is there and they're like that's what we did every week what are you talking about like
00:32:13.420 what what of the things you just mentioned is negative well i know and you just mentioned a
00:32:18.680 bunch of things that like our families have done and if someone came to us would be like i have
00:32:23.920 another episode i'll do eventually on how much black culture took from scots irish culture and
00:32:28.220 that they're very closely called maybe vice versa because i thought banjos were like a scots irish
00:32:32.900 thing well no they they culturally transmitted a lot uh what the scots irish were known for doing
00:32:38.540 is they didn't really care who invented a culture or technology if it was good yeah i'm guessing
00:32:44.620 gonna steal it i'm gonna tell you i don't care if any of americans did it i don't care if black
00:32:48.220 people did it but that's why they had so much more intercultural exchange with black culture
00:32:51.700 than the other american cultural groups and it's also when the blacks saw another culture adopting
00:32:57.360 their stuff they adopted more of that culture stuff and you had much more cultural interplay
00:33:01.240 which is how you get stuff like country music adopting so much of earlier black cultural ideas
00:33:08.160 um blues music uh folk music etc which come out of this particular region um but the point here
00:33:16.440 being is you take a collection of stuff that is not bad there is nothing negative about eating
00:33:22.960 watermelons there is nothing negative about liking fried chicken there's nothing negative about having
00:33:28.460 regular family get-togethers where you talk and eat these things there's nothing negative about
00:33:34.060 having the the the comic jokes about the large black family that would all get together because
00:33:39.560 that before the the uh the breaking apart of black families they used to do this this was a
00:33:46.080 common thing intergenerational black families get together and they joke and they have these
00:33:50.760 conversations and then people saw that and they a comedian would do it and they go that's a racist
00:33:55.480 caricature it's like no it's so screwed up because you know who else likes watermelon a lot who the
00:34:01.820 japanese watermelon suika they they love it so like i've been when i travel to japan like
00:34:07.380 you just be certain like let's let's all sit down and just eat watermelon together it was like an
00:34:11.800 event food um it was so popular that at the time and i think this is still the case like the metro
00:34:17.440 card of tokyo like the broader area was called suika like this is a culture that freaking loves
00:34:23.360 watermelon but if you were like oh those japanese people they love watermelon like no one's going to
00:34:27.880 have an aneurysm so it's so right so messed up like why why if black people like something
00:34:34.460 And then people talk about it. Like, are we, is this a problem? Why, why one, are they not allowed
00:34:41.300 to like it? And two, why is them liking stuff a problem? No, but the bigger problem is how this
00:34:46.860 affects black youth and the way that they perceive their own identity. When you grow up as the BLM
00:34:55.560 movement did and said that black culture is a culture that is antagonistic to the nuclear family,
00:35:02.880 right that has nothing to do with black culture that we're about polyamory we're about whatever
00:35:08.020 and then you look at how could you think that as a black person that is the least black thing
00:35:14.740 in the world if you're talking about american black culture american black culture if you put
00:35:20.520 together do you remember these old black comedies from like the 90s or whatever um and you'd see
00:35:26.260 what the joke version of a black family looked like.
00:35:29.500 It was typically three or sometimes four generations
00:35:33.760 of a family with extended relative networks,
00:35:37.140 all sitting down at a long table,
00:35:39.480 joking, making fun of each other, et cetera.
00:35:41.640 Oh, this is so fabulous.
00:35:43.260 Ain't nothing like getting together with family
00:35:44.660 and having a good meal.
00:35:45.760 You know, in my day, Simon,
00:35:47.400 people used to spend time with their family
00:35:49.300 on Sundays and special occasions
00:35:51.880 come around and pay their respects.
00:35:54.160 You were messing around and messing
00:35:55.100 all the earnest golden years magic golden years you're gonna be mad at yourself i cooked all this
00:35:59.400 food is that all you're gonna eat hey hey hey what's wrong with you you're supposed to eat
00:36:02.460 that thing not scalp it well daddy all uh calories in the chicken are found in the skin and in the
00:36:06.340 fat so i don't you talking about that's where all the fats and calories is you know where that come
00:36:09.940 from watching that damn tv and people said oh that's a racist caricature and so then the next
00:36:16.540 yeah a cohesive family great yeah the next generation grows up and being like a large
00:36:21.880 cohesive family is a racist caricature so i'm gonna do the opposite oh my gosh the colors are
00:36:29.400 not okay of all this man who who mentors a child is a racist caricature so let's do gangs and drugs
00:36:36.280 and hate the police because that's the the furthest thing from the racist caricature
00:36:42.940 this is how black culture got cooked and you and you see these um other things like the black sambo
00:36:51.060 case where it was a story of humorously originally about an indian character but when it was
00:36:56.300 translated into the united states it became a black character it was about a clever child who
00:37:00.780 would like outwisk tigers and stuff okay they were beloved children's books and then but they
00:37:06.380 look too much like a racist caricature so they get rid of it they get rid of the parts of our
00:37:10.400 culture that could be attached to anything um by the way if you're wondering about my claim
00:37:16.320 The cakewalk was a dance tied to early syncopatic march music.
00:37:21.800 It syncopased to the 2-4 rhythm that became the foundation of ragtime.
00:37:26.060 Scott Joffel's Maple Leaf Rag from 1899 is the canonical cakewalk-adjacent piece.
00:37:33.740 From ragtime in line runs straight into early New Orleans jazz, then swing, then rhythm and blues, and rock and roll.
00:37:41.380 the syncopation that made the cakewalk distinctive is the same rhythmic innovation that became the
00:37:47.260 backbone of nearly all american popular music i had no idea you don't black people don't grow
00:37:54.780 up learning this they grow up learning how racist the cakewalk was well it's really cool if you go
00:38:01.060 to the wikipedia page about cakewalks there's an animated gif i didn't know that wikipedia did that
00:38:04.980 that's a nice improvement this is also where you get things like the tap dancing black performers
00:38:09.700 developed tap from african rhythmic tradition that was fused with irish and they were the ones
00:38:15.320 who innovated the form bill bojangles robinson then nicholas burnson great black tappers of the
00:38:22.580 vaudeville era uh the you it's erased it's erased this is this is all erased by the naacp
00:38:33.500 um that is that is wild that's really by the way um the briar rabbit story came directly from the
00:38:43.500 west african trickster traditions the hare and the spider and sazi were the classic trick or nazi
00:38:49.040 or nazi the uh enslaved black africans adopted them and briar rabbit became the central underdog
00:38:54.860 archetype um the small weak creature that outwits through wit and deception which
00:38:59.640 adapted heavily
00:39:02.980 when I say it adapted heavily from jack
00:39:05.300 tails because you can see this cultural
00:39:07.160 transmission had already happened. In
00:39:09.200 Africa, this character is
00:39:11.420 magical and uses magic
00:39:13.280 to perform its tricks. Whereas
00:39:15.020 if you look at the
00:39:17.040 jack tail traditions, it's also about a small
00:39:19.460 underdog character, but
00:39:21.200 he never uses magic.
00:39:23.320 And that's a very distinctive thing about the
00:39:25.300 jack tail tradition. It's always trickery.
00:39:27.700 You also see in the briar
00:39:29.300 rabbit tradition never uses magic because they had already fused enough with the protestant
00:39:33.420 tradition where we sell that as you don't want to be teaching kids that magic is a good thing
00:39:37.740 or a cool thing or anything like that it's better to use pure wit um wow there's this really
00:39:47.240 interesting pattern with all of our episodes about something related to black people which is
00:39:51.600 oh my gosh why have they been so screwed over but not in any of the ways that anyone says
00:39:57.440 yeah so um and the very people who pretend to defend them which yeah well that's because they
00:40:03.180 let the fox in the hen house the n-sub-lacp is the biggest threat and has been the biggest
00:40:08.220 deteriorator of black culture now fun by the way so remember i said that it was common in this era
00:40:15.560 when everyone's like minstrels minstrels minstrels are so bad they make themselves look like idiots
00:40:20.240 the stooges predicted themselves as lazy stupid buffoons so were the marx brothers so were laurel
00:40:26.820 and hardy so were abbott and costello almost all of the most famous comedic performers of this era
00:40:34.240 did this routine oh yeah no even in uh the the christmas classic white christmas they do a
00:40:40.460 a minstrel bit a minstrel sorry a minstrel bit yeah and and they're like well when it's black
00:40:47.240 people doing them it's about all of black culture that's what they're making fun of and it's like
00:40:51.640 no you chose to make it that it might have been about that at the very beginning of the tradition
00:40:58.000 but the tradition had evolved into a position where it didn't need to mean that anymore it
00:41:04.640 became yeah i mean i think it became uncle remus it didn't need to be malicious you guys decided
00:41:12.300 to make it universally malicious it started in the 12th century as a form of entertainment
00:41:19.140 it remained a form of entertainment i feel like nothing changed it's just that like one one group
00:41:25.940 was like oh this one this one subset of people who engaged in this form of entertainment
00:41:30.520 were were horrible and like doing uh committing atrocities i don't know so so for for more
00:41:37.340 context here uh the minstrel show had a structure the end men mr tambo or mr bones at either end
00:41:43.800 of the stage trading jokes with the interlocutor in the middle uh the end men were the comics and
00:41:49.000 interlocutor played the straight man that's the ancestor of the modern comedy set the comic on
00:41:54.220 stage the rapid fire joke delivery the callbacks and the comic persona the structure of american
00:41:59.140 stand-up the opening bit the rhythm of the setup the punchline the character the comedian plays
00:42:05.060 was developed in the minstrel format uh the the shave and haircut rhythm the two bits ending and
00:42:10.740 the call and response of american joke structures all come from this well this explains that white
00:42:16.900 christmas song because they kept saying things like oh mr bones you're terrible and that explains
00:42:21.780 mr bones oh my gosh wow so yeah is it formalized format here well this is the funniest thing this
00:42:27.900 is where you hear the mr but you just realized oh this is part of black american cultural history
00:42:33.800 god forbid i know that yeah but you can't know this today we can't talk about christmas yes yes
00:42:40.820 yes uh the sitcom is also of direct descent the mistral shows stable cast of comic archetypes
00:42:47.500 and recurring characters the inman is the comic foils that structure had become the sitcom
00:42:52.340 with uh emos and andy being a direct descendant of mistral shows right so crazy that is and this
00:43:00.980 later evolved into things like i love lucy and the honeymooners yeah which is so slapstick and
00:43:06.580 funny and delightful yeah and nobody's like oh you can't have the the reason why lucy like let's
00:43:13.080 take something like lucy or the honeymooners like straight to the moon um you know or i love lucy
00:43:17.820 like oh i'm such an idiot right like we watch these shows and you could say well she's not
00:43:25.940 depicting every american housewife and it's like i would beg to disagree lucy absolutely represented
00:43:34.180 an archetype of all american women yeah lucy lucy is the black face of american housewives and it
00:43:41.940 wasn't necessarily a positive stereotype no not at all but i mean also delightful and funny so i
00:43:48.620 don't know you know it's again is it problematic yes is it funny and delightful in an institution
00:43:54.280 culturally yes like come on the the many characters you could look at the simpsons
00:44:00.160 is the simpsons supposed to depict all white american culture and families well i mean yeah
00:44:06.980 kind of that was kind of the point and you have a dad who strangles his child every time he gets
00:44:12.380 mad and is an idiot and who isn't you have an indian like 7-eleven i mean who isn't properly
00:44:18.160 trained no but the the reason you have a scottish grounds people yes i mean the reason i'm focused
00:44:23.680 simone the reason i'm focused on the family yes i'm not talking about every racial stereotype in
00:44:28.460 the show okay the point i'm making is you can have a negative stereotype still be a positive
00:44:36.560 cultural force the family of homer how how how much did that impact american culture if we went
00:44:47.380 back and we erased because it would check every box the minstrel does is homer a a negative
00:44:54.880 stereotype of a bumbling worse than minstrels because he's also aggressive and abusive
00:44:59.940 idiot character right who's bad at his job as a risk to all of society truly about to blow up a
00:45:06.720 nuclear plant constantly um is he a depiction of the average white family and what that very
00:45:14.120 clearly meant to be understood of your average middle class white family in america or lower
00:45:18.620 middle class absolutely was he a stereotype being drawn by let's be honest mostly upper class people
00:45:27.500 in hollywood who genuinely looked down on middle class americans yes he was a stereotype being
00:45:34.180 drawn from people in another cultural group who looked down upon people of that stereotype
00:45:39.160 and meant to this in a derogatory fashion yet if we went through and we scrubbed american culture
00:45:47.040 of the simpsons how much of americana would we lose now imagine we apply the same rules to
00:45:55.360 everything we apply the same rules to the three stooges we apply the same rules to all the other
00:46:02.300 comedians i went through um we apply the same rules to you just lose it you lose american history
00:46:09.900 and yet this is what was done to black american history that's really messed up it's super messed
00:46:17.680 up and this is why it is incredibly racist in terms of the downstream effects to stigmatize
00:46:26.340 blackface yeah there's so many things in here that i didn't i think the saddest thing is you
00:46:33.540 just pointed out a whole bunch of things that came from black culture that i didn't even know
00:46:39.880 came from black culture largely is a product of all of this erasure and and refusal to include
00:46:45.960 certain bits of media in our you know accepted set which is messed up like shouldn't black culture
00:46:51.820 get credit for that you know no but i think the how much content have you watched about the taking
00:46:58.580 down of the uh the the disney attraction thing oh so much like hours worth okay okay had you once
00:47:08.500 heard that the primary music type was invented in africa or that the ride no no no no no just
00:47:14.420 basically like in fact it's almost not mentioned at all it's like song of the south um it just
00:47:19.360 like all they had to do was say well it was associated with song of the south which we all
00:47:24.040 know is horribly racist and like this like scourge on disney's history that we must never mention
00:47:32.620 it was like the voldemort of disney's history we must not mention it at all and and so it really
00:47:38.520 wasn't mentioned at all like in fact i didn't know any of this stuff um about you know the actual
00:47:43.500 history i mean i remember watching some of the south as a kid and like enjoying it um but that
00:47:47.640 was it that's yeah wild so crazy i i appreciate that i was able to educate you hopefully i was
00:47:54.740 able to educate our audience and hopefully we can realize that just because a portion of something's
00:48:01.960 history was racist in nature or especially because if you say we are going to rip out everything
00:48:08.900 that was racist or derogatory against black you rip out black culture and then you rip out the
00:48:14.740 point you rip out the way that american culturally works which is two groups making fun of each
00:48:21.920 other you don't get the cakewalk without this the black version of the mistral show and you don't
00:48:28.380 get all american music without the cakewalk it invented the and by the way i think ragtime is
00:48:35.840 the first form of music that i think is good i do not like classical music i don't like anything
00:48:40.540 like that so every form of music that i personally like is downstream of the innovation that came
00:48:45.980 from the cakewalk i can vouch for this malcolm's not just making this up he really likes ragtime
00:48:50.500 music like it doesn't make i can't say i guess i thought you took some like course on music
00:48:57.680 history through the great courses and were like and ragtime is the best that's all i kind of
00:49:02.140 remember well that's why i learned about this i learned about the development of the american
00:49:05.740 and theatrical tradition and the influence
00:49:09.500 that Black Americans had on that,
00:49:10.960 but that influence was through the minstrel shows.
00:49:14.100 During a time of racism,
00:49:15.600 that's how they were able to have influence.
00:49:20.600 And when the minstrel shows get erased,
00:49:24.160 when the minstrel shows said they were nothing but bad,
00:49:27.360 they were nothing but racist,
00:49:28.620 we miss this cultural conversation
00:49:32.260 that led to current American culture.
00:49:35.740 and it's it's wild to me as well that the form of if you ask blacks today what is black american
00:49:47.760 culture they'd likely say like the first thing evoked on their mind is going to be rap music
00:49:53.940 it's going to be gangster culture it's going to be gangster dress it's not going to be jazz
00:49:59.700 it's not going to be maybe hip-hop i don't know yeah it's even hip-hop hip-hop is associated with
00:50:05.400 crime hip-hop is associated with degeneracy um it's not going to be the parts of black culture
00:50:12.240 that genuinely uplifted or had a cultural path to uplift the american black community right
00:50:21.040 because those are the parts that were developed oh no during this this pre-time before they had
00:50:27.960 to start from scratch before they had to say oh we won't look to these old forms of music
00:50:32.820 and how we develop going forwards, which is really sad. It's really sad. But I'm glad I was
00:50:40.340 able to blow your mind about this because the moment I told you I'm going to do an episode on
00:50:45.180 the history of blackface and why condemning it so aggressively rather than saying, yes,
00:50:51.640 it was used in a racial context in the past and in a racist context in the past, but it's not the
00:50:58.160 same as the n-word or slavery or something like that and that once it's removed it's sort of like
00:51:06.220 the jenga piece that knocks over the rest of the the the jenga tower that is black history
00:51:11.840 it's the one block you can't remove well i will see if youtube's algorithm can fathom that level
00:51:19.100 of nuance which i don't think is that hard to fathom but look they couldn't figure out
00:51:23.780 we are trying to say that hipster is a bad sorry that hitler is a bad person um yeah they're like
00:51:30.060 what hitler is a bad person because his ideas were as often as progressive as they were conservative
00:51:37.120 and that he fits into modern progressive archetypes much more than conservative ones
00:51:40.720 how dare you so that that hit hit that hit us with a channel strike so i don't know if you're
00:51:45.340 going to be able to make it through this one but that for that reason thank you to everyone
00:51:48.480 who subscribes to us on Substack and Patreon.
00:51:51.660 Thank you guys so much.
00:51:53.680 It means so much to us.
00:51:55.120 Yeah, we have a backup because Malcolm, he'd be speed running it.
00:51:59.900 And I just outlined another episode about Indian culture
00:52:03.360 that might also not help us.
00:52:05.180 So great.
00:52:07.840 But I think that this is where the real cultural conversation happens.
00:52:12.400 This is where racism actually ends.
00:52:14.220 It's having a real conversation.
00:52:15.340 yes shutting it down is how you make it a problem instead of just having discourse the light of
00:52:21.760 truth burns away evil right you know that that that is the the end state of this and this is
00:52:29.000 why progressives the algorithm can't let us talk about that for like this because it it would have
00:52:34.840 the racist be like oh okay yeah that makes sense you're clearly not coming at this from a pearl
00:52:39.640 clutching perspective um uh so i'll i'll take you seriously um but and and i will mitigate my views
00:52:48.100 based on this and we have a lot of people have been like yeah i'm significantly less racist
00:52:51.220 because of your show um uh but we'd also really encourage you if you if you like our stuff uh
00:52:58.660 rfab.ai this episode was entirely filmed and edited on rfab we have moved to those features
00:53:06.120 being mostly stable at this point and that's really exciting for us because that means we're
00:53:11.380 able to move away from some other editing software and i'm able to try some fun editing tricks that
00:53:16.660 only rfab can do like the bleeps that you have had around stuff that might make youtube mad in this
00:53:22.580 uh like the um i'll show off a little feature i've been working on right now this is my first
00:53:29.260 time testing this feature so let's see if it works the uh we've got the looping video feature that i
00:53:34.660 built i thought that was pretty fun for like pretty sleek yeah um and uh yeah even if you're
00:53:42.020 like i don't like playing the ai adventure stories that you have on our fab fine there's there's
00:53:47.700 probably something on it that is something you'd like to right yeah actually i don't use them at
00:53:52.480 all except yeah we have a lot i use the image generation i use the fact checking i use the
00:53:58.600 based ai i used i i use oh my gosh this video also had to be entirely researched with the based ai
00:54:07.340 feature on rfab because grok wouldn't give me serious answers to these questions yeah it just
00:54:12.140 kept hedging everything and i just couldn't get any information out of it yeah yeah even though
00:54:15.760 grok is the de facto like based llm that people turn to no you need to use roads and you can get
00:54:22.160 it super easy at rfab um yeah it's actually based because i also found that i couldn't use grok
00:54:28.000 to do my episode research oh so you used roads as well so we're moving more towards an all rfab
00:54:33.500 ecosystem i mean the recipe generation system oh my gosh yeah you're just a housewife check it out
00:54:38.860 you can lock the site and to say well if you're a housewife yeah you can also use um our devices
00:54:43.500 which are not our devices you just buy them separately we don't make any money from that
00:54:46.540 but like you can make companion devices that are tutors for your kids for the girls i made an 0.98
00:54:50.580 animated tutor named thetis who is a mermaid woman and then i made cutish a chick that our
00:54:57.480 boys like the chicken a baby chicken um and these work in a few modes they can work with regular
00:55:03.300 companions or they can work with like a living avatars that are like fully animated characters
00:55:06.880 based on the leaflet system yeah um i mean i think that's a little much to put together for
00:55:11.360 you can do it you know um the other i can i can pretend to be cutish can't i let's see we're still
00:55:17.520 working on this one but look i can be cutish too oh yeah that's that's one of the features i'm
00:55:21.760 cutish uh what's another feature that i've been working a lot on um this is thetis is proof she's
00:55:28.200 loading she's better better storytelling oh yes the one thing i'd say probably the single most
00:55:33.300 useful feature that rfab has that isn't even that obvious if you're milling around rfab right now
00:55:38.420 and this feature is sort of a core part of my daily life is the api if you do vibe coding and
00:55:45.380 you're not using the rfab api you are at a massive disadvantage yeah it creates really cool animations
00:55:51.660 it's very efficient yeah yeah if you explore the site or use the site you'll notice animations of
00:55:56.740 a cat girl you can easily create that and just put it animations put images all throughout your
00:56:02.040 website with the rfab api and make it so that your own ai can call you while it's working so if
00:56:07.080 you're using like claude fable or something like that and you want to go on a walk you can set it
00:56:12.040 up with the rfab api just in its background memory doc so that it calls you when it reaches a
00:56:17.440 stopping point and asks for what to do next and it actually does this it's kind of weird um
00:56:22.440 because malcolm will just pick up a call at dinner or like while we're on a shopping trip and he'll
00:56:26.800 be like okay like do this don't do this call me back when you're done and i'm like who is that
00:56:31.400 and it's like you know it's just our it's our vibe coding agent oh and by the way for people
00:56:36.500 who've been using the site for a while and you haven't gone back to these features one of the
00:56:39.620 things we added recently that i'm very excited about is the brainstorming features that brainstorm
00:56:44.220 the beginnings of adventures for you and in companions and we have like a lot of these
00:56:47.940 now you can fully customize the prompt and the prompt structure on those so you control and and
00:56:54.460 control what ai runs in them so you control those completely now those are those are completely
00:56:59.660 user controllable now um we also the uh narrative engine is way stronger than it used to be because
00:57:05.180 now it builds memory and lore books um to better remember facts and and drift less so lots of fun
00:57:11.720 things um for you to play around with we also got audio to audio feature now if it's been a while
00:57:17.380 since you didn't know that so you can do it from your phone i need to use that more because i can't
00:57:20.960 read anything i also recently added a feature hide covers where if you're using on a bus or
00:57:25.100 something but you want to do not say for work stuff uh it hides the cover images so i didn't
00:57:29.620 know you did that yeah yeah yeah dude okay well i love you i love you too gee whiz
00:57:41.240 you are amazing and thank you for your time thank you for your time oh no it's just the
00:57:48.240 mic was far away okay you fixed it thank you thank you very very much i love you very very
00:57:55.280 much simone you're a great wife i'm looking forward to a fried rice dinner with fancy hibachi
00:58:00.200 steak but obviously cut the steak smaller oh is there steak in the fried rice yes okay so i pick
00:58:07.920 it up and i chiffonade it and then i shut up you're so mean yes you said you've said in the
00:58:17.240 past that you wanted to julienne you julienne carrots no one i guess people julienne meat
00:58:23.280 clearly now i do i love you and and cut the vegetables smaller too i noticed you didn't
00:58:30.120 for octavians yeah because humans eat vegetables that are this big
00:58:36.600 it's i do you is it a swallowing thing actually because you don't like swallowing pills yeah i
00:58:44.860 don't like swallowing big pieces of meat that was one of the reasons i didn't eat a lot at the
00:58:47.960 restaurant the the chunks they gave were just way too big you chew them with your teeth i don't like
00:58:53.500 chewing things do i annoy you so much don't make me chew my food you have to spend your life with
00:59:10.860 me you know what's so funny though is one of the most endearing things you do that i just love so
00:59:16.500 much and it's so stupid but it's the sound of you chewing i really like the sound of you chewing
00:59:23.620 it's so cute it's like a little guinea pig and some celery and i just love it and you don't
00:59:29.500 even want to do it you don't even want to chew your food when it's so cute
00:59:34.980 i think it goes to show too how like when people are actually in love all the stuff that people
00:59:41.600 sight as annoying them if you hate someone is the same stuff that is like the cutest and most
00:59:47.800 wonderful thing in the world if you love them and that's so weird oh my gosh maybe i don't love
00:59:55.860 your chewing i love you but that means that your chewing is the best thing that everyone says they
01:00:01.120 get sick of it's like chewing or whatever yeah you're disgusting chewing no it's so cute oh
01:00:07.120 Oh, gosh. It hurts my heart to hear that you have this strong distaste for chewing your own food.
01:00:17.540 And how many years have I known you? And I didn't know that you disliked chewing.
01:00:22.220 I didn't know I disliked chewing until I thought about it. And I was like, yeah, I guess my favorite dishes don't involve lots of chewing.
01:00:27.620 You know what? Chewing is fake and gay. I'm never doing it again.
01:00:32.340 okay maybe once we make the big bucks and give everyone vampire canines
01:00:38.800 we'll uh we'll like chewing again what do you think
01:00:42.520 um you are i you are so fun you are beyond fun this is her plan by the way she wants vampire
01:00:53.980 canines yeah for me you'll know you'll know we've actually made money where i'm not like worried
01:00:59.280 about food and heat security and everything else
01:01:03.620 when, like, we suddenly show up with vampire teeth.
01:01:06.460 And it's like, oh, okay.
01:01:08.040 They feel comfortable with their finances now.
01:01:11.140 They have so much access.
01:01:13.000 You're so weird.
01:01:17.920 Not as weird as you.
01:01:19.380 Not as weird as you.
01:01:20.880 So I'll get started here.
01:01:21.980 that's correct one two three go
01:01:51.980 What's stuck in our garden?
01:02:05.760 Okay.