Psychosis Maxing With Candace Owens
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1 hour and 10 minutes
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178.49683
Summary
Candace Owenens has gone off the reservation so much that we need to talk about it. She thinks that Charlie Kirk may have been marked since he was a child because he could see into the future, and she thinks he went to a secret school for kids with gifted abilities like the X-Men.
Transcript
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but actually this makes way more sense oh no oh god is this just going to be where like i tell
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you candace that was conspiracy theory and you're like well but that's right simone so you're not
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going to respond to the 9-11 the bolshevik revolution claim the harvard university is
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massad base just we're just putting it out there first of all harvard university could be a massad
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base that would not be like a crazy thing you know what no i don't want your response we're just
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gonna go no hold on no we need a plausibility check what are you doing i'm trying to say she's
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psychotic and you're like me too me too no i'm i you it's important that you point out where her
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things aren't that crazy because first of all spy operations have repeatedly throughout history
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used university campuses specific university campuses for recruiting new assets and agents
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i want to talk about the word conspiracy theorist you're using here okay okay here would you like
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to know more hello malcolm i am so excited to be speaking with you today because candace owens has
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gone off the reservation so much that i think we need to talk about it it was a recent one you were
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telling me this morning and i was like what the she thought that charlie kirk was trained at a school
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like for gifted children like in the x-men with special the first thing that like really caught my
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attention was that she she claimed that charlie kirk was a time traveler based on basically a
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joking flirty text that he sent to her where she texted him i'm an alien frowny face and he responded
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i think i'm a time traveler this is my home but i think you found me and time traveled with me and she
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took that and just ran with it this wasn't like you know she's just gonna like i'm gonna take things
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hard literally and someone else put it better than i did writes with regard to the x-men thing
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the cinnamon shogun on x wrote candace owens is now saying that charlie kirk has was marked since a
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child because he has special powers she thinks he could possibly see into the future and claims he went
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to a secret school for kids with gifted abilities like the x-men that's where we're at folks and he
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posted a clip of her talking about this followed by the x-men intro which which i absolutely love
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charlie may have been marked since he was a child we've discussed these gate programs that they have
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in school and i just think on the basis of what he told me that when he was really young they wanted
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to drug him but his mother said no and he was really grateful for that and instead they decided
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that they could send him to this x-men school that's the best way i can describe it i would certainly
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by the way for you internet sleuth i'd like to find out which school charlie had to attend so he was
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pulled out of the regular school he was attending and he had to go to some special school for the
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yeah so i mean i love it actually going into this you you went over this with me this morning i'm like
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simone you have multiple times recently told me something crazy candace owens said yeah you were
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aghast at yeah we need to make an episode on all of her because her worldview i want to live in her
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mind it must be the craziest world yeah and actually your whole thesis was this because you wanted to
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find out what kind of crazy was she was she like audience captured was she like having genuine
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what flavor of psychosis does she have is this like old school psychosis is this audio audience
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capture psychosis or is this ai induced psychosis and so what we're going to do in this episode
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is we are going to go through her conspiracy theories and we're going to look at you know
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has her audience kind of egged this on and then we're going to we're going to come to a conclusion
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on what what like it or she just like is it all of them it could because i mean we're going to go
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into it though but i just i want to point out though just how wild it is before i even give you
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the full depth of all of her conspiracy theories just how how many followers she has so on x she has 7.5
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million followers and for scale brett cooper who's also part of like the daily wire cinematic
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universe and also someone who left the daily wire though more recently she compared to candace owens
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7.5 million has just 536.8 000 ben shapiro who's 8 million so only 500 000 more than candace owens
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who's who's more of an up-and-comer than you know like she's newer to the scene than ben shapiro
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but she doesn't have money and interest backing her like he does yeah i know right so this is like
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really impressive she's just a crazy person yeah asthma gold has 1.2 million elon musk has
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well i think but sorry like 242.5 million donald trump 109 million hassan piker 1.6 million
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greta tunberg 5.1 million so just to give you kind of like a landscape candace owens is at the higher
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end she's obviously not at like donald trump or elon musk level but she's above asmund gold just a tiny
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bit below ben shapiro on youtube she is 5.74 million subscribers ben shapiro shapiro has 7.13
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million brett cooper who only left the dailyware for fairly recently is just 1.68 million asmund gold
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has 4.3 so candace owens has more subscribers on youtube than asmund gold even though like asmund gold
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i think speaks for the typical centrist american who's online whereas candace owens speaks to like
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someone wearing a tinfoil hat and this is the thing the the the the the scale and scope of her
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conspiracies as we get to them these are not like us dunking on candace owens for like being wrong
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like it's not even like these aren't even things worth like debunking or differences of political
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opinion charlie kirk was not a times traveler raised with special power so that's what you think
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i mean who were we to say but we are going to go into these no no no no no no actually i know we
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can joke about this but the point that i'm making here is this is not about us saying we have political
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differences with candace owens oh yeah no no no no this is she is just she is unhinged and yet even on
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patreon she has 11.8k members and her membership starts at 20 per month though it also i think that
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it's 50 and then 75 um this is what i love about candace owens no i want to point out that that
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the ec and the unit economics of that work out to 237,200 per month wow per month just from patreon
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that's not including all of her her sponsorships her youtube revenue everything else that she gets
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like she is making tons like people are spending a lot of money and the only reason they're paying
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for that for the minute this is assuming she gets only minimum to your payers and what you get for
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that is just the ability to quote submit questions and comments to have answered or discussed in the
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final segment of a shot in the dark this will be the only pool of questions selected from and i feel
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like again this is this is going to come in later as we try to figure out what is driving her psychosis
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i almost feel like a very large number of those people do not believe at all in what she's saying
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they just want to make her more crazy and they are paying 20 a month to be able to to give her
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questions and comments that she has to read so that they can drive her more crazy
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this is the thing about candace owens and her conspiracies yeah other other people will pick up
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on like pre-existing conspiracy theories and expand them candace owens invents and generates
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entirely new and intricate strains of conspiracy theory and it may be that this is a genre of
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entertainment that people very much like and enjoy and are willing to pay for
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but also our show is conspiracy theories no culture but the west blah blah blah blah oh my god is she
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like the new charles dickens because charles dickens has changed you know he serialized his books
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and then people would write into him and be like you can't kill this character like this has to happen
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and he's changed his plots because people have complained like he he was the the og person
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subject to moderate amounts at least of audience capture so if he lived today all of his characters
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would be gay and trans they'd say do you like well it depends on his audience right i mean candace
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owens is an example of like conservative christian conspiracy theorist audience capture or like i don't
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know troll audience capture in her extended fiction universe the the president macron's wife with a man
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yeah let's just go no no no let's don't jump the shark here let's go through her claims one by one and
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we we can actually let's start with the anti-semitic ones and i think this is really important because
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i think this might have been something that really helped her get started even before the
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well and the thing is i think there's her anti-semitic theories may be among the most
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important because i think they led to a surge of support for her because anti-semitism is totally
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on the rise we've gotten bumps when we post anti-semitic content so i could see how you would
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be even at the very least subconsciously motivated to lean into anti-semitic content and her unique
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flavor of anti-semitism i think really feeds into something that the anti-semitic like fans of the
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internet extra like because there's a huge correlation between someone being anti-semitic
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and very openly and enthusiastically anti-semitic online and then also wanting to conflate jews with
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conspiracy theories and candace like improvs conspiracy she's like the jazz master of of anti-semitic
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conspiracy theories i gotta point out here before you go further we actually haven't done any
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actually anti-semitic videos but we will sometimes intentionally try to make title cards make it
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look as if the video is going to be anti-semitic because i know it will do better if the average
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youtube watcher thinks they're about to watch something anti-semitic but a lot of the comments
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that we get when they are anti-semitic it's like well like the j-o-o's or the the like juice emoji
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are commenters are anti-semitic yeah well no but not just that they're anti-semitic the the correlation
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between as someone who makes an anti-semitic comment who also is making a comment about jews
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doing conspiracies is like 80 80 80 you're right actually something anti-semitic they're also
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going to say something conspiratorial candace owens is like oh so here's what some of the
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actually hold on i just had a realization what judaism is almost like the freemasons were still
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a religion you know like all the the conspiracy theories like believe the freemasons like do this
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and do that and do that yeah like the simpson song yeah it's like with judaism it's like they
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just found an actual group of people and ascribed it all to them yeah yeah no totally and and they
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love that and that's i think that's one of the though charlie kirk was the major inflection point
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for her the anti-semitic stuff is like a very big engine for anyone in terms of growth especially
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if they feed into conspiracy theories so this is crucial in terms of what she's actually argued
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with her anti-semitic conspiracy theorizing she has alleged that jews founded israel as part of a
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cult linked to frankist the frankist sect she is she's the one who's all about the frankist set
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who are the frankists what's what's the lore here i haven't so she said that they were involved in
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crimes against christians during passover i've not heard of frankists from anyone but her and every
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time i try to listen to her talk about it i get real confused i don't know if it's because of my
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feminized brain being so stupid you'll you'll come to understand that candace also realizes that
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women are not very smart and if women are in successful positions it's probably because they're
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really men but yeah i i don't quite understand okay hold on i'll read i'll read a explanation of
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who she thinks they are okay okay the frankists followers of the 18th century figure jacob frank
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represented a secretive heretical cult that she describes as the preferred religion of the elites
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she portrayed but then how does this how can this have to do with crimes against christians during
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passover wait wait we'll get there okay she describes them as devil worshipers who practice
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deception inversion of morals and extreme transgressions including pda files incest and
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ritualistic crimes as part of their religious beliefs owens claims frankism is an offshoot
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or continuation of sabbatism from the early false messiah shabbatai zevi
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oh that face is me realizing that i got balsham tov confused with shabbatai levi two figures who i think
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are bad figures from jewish history but jews would not think that balsham tov was as bad as shabbatai
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levi and so i was very embarrassed and then i was trying to remember if i had put that episode live
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yet or if i had time to fix it and i did not have time to fix it but emphasizes its antinomial
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anti-law nature where followers deliberately violate moral religious norms to achieve some form
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of spiritual elevation of power i just realized you can understand how this just flies right over my head
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right knowing me well it actually makes sense so shabbatai levi really did practice those things
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mm-hmm um so you're just saying candace owens is right about everything what about this she claimed
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that jews orchestrated the bolshevik revolution to exterminate christians and that harvard university
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serves as a massad base and that israel was behind 9-11 and that the holocaust was exaggerated or
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fabricated um she has repeatedly stated that the frankists are not true jews but imposters who
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reject mainstream judaism which would be the case if they were followers of sabbatai levi and were
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excommunicated by rabbinical authorities instead they allegedly infiltrate other faiths such as
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christolicism through false conversions to undermine or destroy christian societies and empires well
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then why does she blame israel for stuff unless israel has actually infiltrated i'm sorry unless this
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sect has the frankist has have successfully infiltrated all of like well okay so if frankists
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are descendants from shabbatai levi it would be a branch from judaism but it would be a inversion of
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judaism like literally what shabbat zabbatai levi believed was that you needed to invert all the
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laws of judaism because we were in the messianic period and so that meant that morality had become
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inverted i actually got this wrong i think on yesterday's video in editing i thought it was
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balshim who did that yeah and two people at least were like you got the wrong guy yeah um thanks guys
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you guys are you always fact check us and we really appreciate that fact check us i did not look it up and i
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with being stupid two very important figures from jewish history around the same period we're so bad
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with names but actually this makes way more sense oh no oh god is this just gonna be where like i tell
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you candace it was conspiracy theory and you're like well but that's right simone no i'm not saying
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it makes it but what i'm saying is it's a it's a coherent world view okay the idea so okay so she's a
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good spinner of conspiracy lore okay so for people who don't know this is actually probably pretty
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important there was a period where around 40 to 30 percent of the jewish community believed the
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messiah had come it was somebody named shabbatai levi he ended up converting to islam that doesn't
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really matter but he did believe in rule inversion and the other thing that he was totally not above
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is attempting to influence other groups and stuff like that like after the demoralization that came
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was shabbatai levi's conversion into islam yes you could say that his faction got really demoralized
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and they didn't just get demoralized it is true absolutely true that portions of the factions that
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followed him went sort of underground because they were too embarrassed to admit that they still
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practice some of these things from this guy who turned out to be a fraud who betrayed everyone and
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he's the guy who i think it's like the actual antichrist because he a complete inversion of jesus
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in terms of everything that he did you can watch our track series on that but from candace owen's
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perspective could some of these secret groups still exist and have power because shabbatai levi did
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associate with groups that did have power like conceivably i can see how this conspiracy works
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in somebody's mind i don't think it's it's it's it's real but i would say is that if you're looking
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because i've always had a problem with this where do you get like actual satanists from that makes no
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sense like he's the bad guy like why are you following the guy who in the book is like there
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isn't a i remember when i was a kid i asked my parents this once i was like why is anyone a
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satanist when we know like by the text he's the bad guy right i mean the the real answer is is that
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real world satanists don't actually worship satan they just say that they're satanists to piss off
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christians and then yeah they're trolls but but there is an actual real founded in reality
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theological reason from reality inversion if you believe in the metaphysics of shabbatai levi
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okay so what i pulled up only brought up candace's owen's perception of this event it didn't bring up
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the real event that happened and i'm a little scared i yeah i think i think some fans are gonna
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think malcolm you're gonna crash out over this i'm not gonna crash out we'll just go into it it's not
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like some became catholics they all became catholics so let's go into this so jacob frank after shabbatai
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levi was born 60 years later in the ukraine he claimed to be the spiritual successor or reincarnation
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of nevi and also the biblical patriarch jacob he took the antinomial idea much further this is the
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idea that you should invert morality he taught that all existing religious laws jewish christian
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and muslim were created by evil forces and must be deliberately broken to reach the ultimate
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redemption his followers engaged in ritualized sexual transgressions documented orgies partner
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swapping and sources mentioned incest the most famous incident was in 1756 in lakaron where they
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were allegedly caught dancing around a semi-naked woman representing the shekinaya or the divine
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female presence after being persecuted by jewish and christian authorities frank persuaded several
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thousand followers several thousand followers to undergo a mass conversion to catholicism
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but it's very clear that they kept their secret beliefs and still worshiped this individual while
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practicing antinomial ideas now this is where i was like wait what like because i thought the catholic
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thing you know everyone's always like oh it's a catholic to choose the catholic to choose none of the
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frankists stay jews none of them stay jews they are 100 percent in the catholic church that is
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the the historical reality of this if this is a conspiracy theory it is a conspiracy theory about
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catholicism now i'm not arguing it's not as bad as it sounds on the surf it's pretty bad but it's not
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as bad as it sounds on the surface so let's go a bit deeper here because i was like wait this doesn't
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make any sense all of these people were born jews like in jewish communities of like the 1700s you
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don't just randomly all become catholics so i was trying to figure out what was going on here you
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know expressing doubt right and so the reason it apparently worked is they say it's a mix of
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strategic survival theological beliefs and opportunism notice a sincere adoption of catholic practices
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so they were facing incredibly heavy prosecution from jewish authorities so frank's teachings were
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extremely heretical specifically to jews obviously if you're creating an anti-judaism that would be
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heretical mostly to jews because he promoted redemption through sin deliberately breaking
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jewish laws including sexual taboos like orgies and incense as a mystical path and so the jewish
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community was obviously very very angry at him and he wasn't going to be easily really re-accepted
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into this community with any sort of authority so to escape this frank and his group turned to
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catholic bishops and nobles for shelters they cleverly told the church what they wanted to hear that
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they rejected the talmud which christians often criticized but accepted kabbalistic texts and
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claimed that those supported ideas like the trinity although they secretly meant their own messiah not
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jesus this positioned them as potential allies against talmudic judaism and if anyone knows my thoughts
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on a kabbalistic text obviously i am not a fan of this guy so frank's own theology made conversion a
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required step frank claimed divine revelations saying christianity specifically catholicism was
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a temporary transitional stage the future messianic religion he would reveal it was part of descending
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into edom the kabbalistic symbol for christianity in the christian world as a necessary humiliation
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redemption path so basically if you're being the opposite of a jew and you need to go through this
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humiliation ritual or like opposite ritual catholicism made sense to him and so baptism was famed as a
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ritual act to reach higher spiritual levels specifically like a sinful ritual act like baptism was to him
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like an orgy was to him and more than that the conversion opened doors public catholic nobles acted as
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grandparents to them gave them names titles and integration into the upper gentry which is crazy
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what's interesting here is that this was all mostly fake from apparently we know this from historical
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documents a classic crypto religious movement i.e secret religious movement like the moranos in spain
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centuries earlier they kept secretly referring to frank as their holy master they continued the
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antinomial practices in private and they intermarried only among themselves to wait for the real religion
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to be revealed the church grew suspicious and frank was arrested in 1760 for feigned conversion and heresy
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in prison 13 years later so what's interesting is after he disappeared we see mentions of people
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practicing things tied to this i think it was what i was looking at like all the way until the late 1800s
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early 1900s and very interesting the being adopted into the upper ranks as sort of approving that jew
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like a large section of jews could could join them like that that's why they were so excited and so
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uncredulistic about this so yeah but the pope did appear to be a suspicious from the start papal nuncio
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polish primates were suspicious no frankish became priests bishops or high officials in the church so
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to say that this is like carried into the catholic church i think not but the point i make is if if the
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conspiracy is anywhere it's within the catholic church not jews the jews apparently hated the for
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obvious reasons hated these people continue okay so you're not going to respond to the 9-11
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the the bolshevik revolution claim the harvard university is massad base just we're just putting
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it out there first of all harvard university could be a massad base that would not be like a crazy thing
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you know what no i don't want your response we're just gonna go no hold on no we need a
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you need a plausibility check what are you doing i'm trying to say she's psychotic and you're like
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me too me too no i'm i you it's important that you point out where her things aren't that crazy
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because you just say something like harvard university would actually make an excellent
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so first of all spy operations have repeatedly throughout history used university campuses
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specific university campuses for recruiting new assets and agents yeah you want competence
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they get it there well it's not just competence but it's a good time on somebody's life to get
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you know a blackmail on them they're they're typically more open to like you know if you're
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a young person at college they're like look we'll help you get a few early good jobs you just owe us
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this later like it's a very easy place to do that massad is the most competent spy craft operation
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on the planet earth yeah so they don't even argue against that yeah yeah so that they would have
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an operation set up at harvard seems i i'd almost think it would be unlikely that there isn't some
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sort of massad recruiting operation at harvard okay yeah i mean the fbi recruited at my college but
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that's just because we were based in dc okay she she also on the on the jew front we got to keep
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going there's a lot more suggested that critics of israel fear for their lives and that jews assassinated
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jfk and well the jfk one actually has a lot of backing to it so i thought everyone said it was
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like the mafia the italian no no it was the mafia probably but what's important to note is that when
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they finally released all of the jfk files and and we've gotten the like they did they finally did
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a lot of them the the one thing that is censored consistently throughout all of them because i forget
00:25:10.900
how we know this but it's anything tied to israel um and apparently there was a lot tied to israel
00:25:16.200
in those files now what i think actually happened is israel was being stupid and didn't understand
00:25:23.540
how that was gonna look and so they were just like well because we do a lot of joint spy craft
00:25:28.640
operations and stuff like that and so they were probably like hey this is like proprietary information
00:25:34.200
for us israel and we did these joint operations thinking they would never get out to the public
00:25:38.120
and so do not mention our name in this and so the guy at the desk was like okay cross out israel
00:25:44.920
it's gonna make you guys look guilty as sin but i'm crossing it out okay so i looked back into this
00:25:49.920
one to try to understand why it was all crossed out when it had to tie to israel and it was actually a
00:25:55.220
blanket cross out tied to something called sources and methods meaning anything that had to do with
00:26:00.440
how we got intelligence because obviously you don't want to show sources was crossed out and we do so
00:26:06.600
much cross intelligence with israel that it made it look like israel was super tied to this and the
00:26:12.140
reason we know it's israel is because the 2025 methods unblocked all the israel mentions and then
00:26:18.660
so people were able to see when that dropped that israel had just been crossed out a ton in former
00:26:23.600
stuff but everywhere had been crossed out was very innocuous now who do i think actually killed jfk
00:26:28.660
i think it was a breakout faction was in the fbi that was attempting to maintain power
00:26:33.140
this is that yeah i could do a different episode on that but i actually think that there's a lot of
00:26:38.300
evidence that there was at the time portions of the fbi that essentially began to operate without
00:26:43.500
government supervision and the people in it thought that they were doing what was right for america and
00:26:47.820
thought that any thing that they did was was okay to do because they're long-term doing it for america
00:26:53.500
and so i think it was an fbi operation and not not like the mainstream fbi but like a branch of it but
00:26:58.660
anyway you're getting into malcolm conspiracy here yeah well we can do the if you guys want malcolm's
00:27:04.040
conspiracy corner we can we can do that just comment below let's get to the transgender
00:27:10.540
the conspiracy because i don't think stop we're going to keep going we're going to do malcolm
00:27:15.180
conspiracy corner if people want it save it but let's get to the transgender stuff because you
00:27:21.260
started with referring to macron i didn't know it was just macron so we knew about the macron
00:27:25.480
conspiracy specifically for those uninitiated that bridgete bridgete macron who's france's first lady
00:27:31.440
emmanuel macron's wife they have a weird enough relationship as it was she was his school teacher
00:27:37.500
so it was already weird people we didn't need to make it weirder but she alleges that
00:27:42.320
that bridgete was born male that her name was jean-michel trogneau but that's her brother's name
00:27:50.040
so there is one it's just her brother and this led to a defamation lawsuit that was filed last year
00:27:57.440
i think it's still going on but it wasn't oh and also just with macron she she also thinks that
00:28:03.620
they're plotting her assassination and that they are complicit in charlie kirk's murder but that's
00:28:08.240
just via french involvement in global conspiracies not like they specifically had it out for charlie
00:28:14.340
kirk but here's the thing that i didn't know about her whole transgender stuff is that she has made
00:28:18.580
similar baseless allocations about other women like michelle obama and kamala harris suggesting that
00:28:25.920
this is part of this broader pattern where powerful women's achievements defy traditional norms
00:28:32.160
i've gotta have she's like awesome powers i've gotta put that scene here
00:28:41.760
god what have you done that's not your mother it's a man baby
00:29:05.400
no literally literally i swear to god she's a man man
00:29:14.160
no it's like it's like the lawsuit comes out right and they're like no this is actually a woman and
00:29:19.720
and i mean of course she's like you have a lot of explaining to do i'm sorry basil i thought she
00:29:25.620
was a man damn it man you're talking about my mother well you have to admit she is rather mannish
00:29:31.100
austin well no offense but if that is a woman it does look like she was beaten with an ugly stick
00:29:41.320
actually what was even crazier is watching this next scene in the world of trans normalization
00:29:50.780
and then imagining a based remake of austin powers where he has a similar mix-up
00:29:57.040
and they have to explain to him that this is normal now
00:30:00.180
can i get you a drink mr pal wait i've got an idea
00:30:04.680
why on earth did you hit that woman right let me show you baby that ain't no woman it's a man man
00:30:15.060
so then there's the what i would like to call the the fake and gay series she's she's referred to
00:30:23.160
some things as it's just fake and gay but sadly in this case gay just it means like the the sort of
00:30:29.940
pejorative slang and not actually gay which would have been more fun if she had like some kind of
00:30:35.500
conspiracy around for example she she describes the apollo moon landing as a fake and gay but that's not
00:30:41.280
about like gay men doing something she just she was just hosting conspiracy theory bart seibel on her
00:30:48.880
podcast at one point to promote the idea that the moon landing was staged possibly by stanley kubrick
00:30:54.960
and then she later clarified on bill mayer's podcast that she didn't care enough about the
00:31:00.380
topic to fully endorse it as a hoax but she's just like yeah moon landing fake and gay but i mean even
00:31:06.320
kim kardashian is like i mean this is i just feel like that's kind of mainstream it's it's it's flat
00:31:12.100
earthers but flat earther but make it mainstream thought or like attractive woman you know no it's it's
00:31:20.300
it's basic and i it's it is very basic yeah it's the pumpkin spice latte of conspiracy theories
00:31:25.820
moon landing was faked yeah and then dinosaurs dinosaurs are also fake and gay moon landing
00:31:31.160
and dinosaurs yeah moon landing dinosaurs yeah she's she's also promoted gnostic inspired ideas
00:31:36.480
doing certain events like kirk's assassination through this lens of ancient heresies where just
00:31:41.540
yeah but anyway so just in more broad and i think this is where we can just broadly agree with
00:31:46.580
at least one element of it and that she she on the social and political front has called she she said
00:31:53.960
that like there's been this what's the best way to put it like concerted effort to disproportionately
00:32:00.240
abort black babies and we have 100 that's true that's that up on our podcast it is true that that is
00:32:06.340
not a conspiracy and well i guess it's a conspiracy and that planned parenthood conspired to have black
00:32:12.220
babies aborted but it's not literally the reason that was to abort black children so she was right
00:32:18.240
on that one and i guess you're right like they're they're some of the things here are really well
00:32:22.040
founded but let's go to charlie kirk because i mean i think you and i would probably still agree
00:32:26.140
that tyler robinson got a little deranged and killed him you know i i don't i don't think we
00:32:33.140
we believe there was something more going on at this time but what going on is so nefarious
00:32:38.680
and bam looking for progressives and the powers that be why would you why would that be fake
00:32:43.020
yeah and also just here's where candace owens really i i i i want to i'm i'm still trying to
00:32:49.060
work out how she sees this so maybe you can explain this she says that kirk was shot from below the
00:32:54.460
stage with the assassin assassin escaping through tunnels but i've i've seen the footage and i think
00:33:00.560
many people have of the shot it doesn't look like he was shot from below she she tied the killing
00:33:08.520
to israel suggesting massad involvement due to kirk's shifting views on israel and and she
00:33:13.120
shared this text thread that was leaked because it didn't look like it it wasn't he was going
00:33:20.100
anti-israel he was and in the text thread that famously got shared wasn't one between her and
00:33:25.660
charlie kirk like with the whole time traveling flirtation thing but instead it was it was between
00:33:30.340
charlie kirk and another member of turning points usa where he was like like he was just fed up with
00:33:36.800
jewish donors for well i mean we've had episodes like that on our show like it's really frustrating
00:33:41.660
to say something like mildly like be like we should like rethink our military aid or like oh here's why
00:33:49.800
people are acting more anti-semitic and then people saying that's anti-semitic and you're like i didn't
00:33:55.480
like what's even the point of ever being nice to a community if you do the the slightest infraction
00:34:01.480
and then you catch yeah yeah biting at you right i don't know though like i'm also very mercenary
00:34:07.500
like if someone gives me money like i i dance for them yeah i do the same right you know yeah
00:34:13.280
you know you're a big jewish donor you bought a service you get the service yeah i i lack charlie
00:34:19.560
kirk's whatever well the thread though specifically let me pull it up in this thread he says just lost
00:34:27.760
another huge jewish donor two million a year because we won't cancel tucker i'm thinking of
00:34:32.280
inviting candace jewish donors playing to all the stereotypes i cannot and will not be bullied like
00:34:38.620
this leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-israel cause to which his colleague who we don't see in
00:34:44.540
the screenshot says please don't invite candace that might feel good short term but it's not good long
00:34:49.480
term in my opinion like all groups are going to get wide variety of opinions that nasty free will
00:34:55.220
thing that god bestowed on us makes life frustrating at times and then he talks about
00:34:59.500
after the dust settles something something and then it gets cut off but what charlie kirk was
00:35:04.080
experienced was he lost two million a year so to my mercenary thing i mean i might also falter if
00:35:11.800
someone stops paying maybe i might stop doing the thing they're paying for so i canceled tucker for
00:35:17.280
two million a year you want to know you want to know how much you want to know how much uh
00:35:21.060
charlie kirk better than these two i'll tell you that i know right but so it's not just
00:35:29.080
mossad that candace is blaming though she she also thinks that there are tp usa insiders not erica kirk
00:35:35.320
not erica kirk and american israel supporters and also the french military don't forget the french
00:35:40.460
military and also evangelical churches i haven't gone deep enough into like all of the the role that each
00:35:46.020
individual part plays but she's she's also linked kirk's trip to asia to this all and claimed it was
00:35:52.820
part of this larger cover-up and yeah she just to be clear because a lot of people who follow her
00:35:59.040
have have tried to insinuate or directly implicate erica kirk in in this murder and candace owens is very
00:36:07.720
clear like no i'm not blaming erica kirk and she met with erica kirk and like played up like played
00:36:13.000
into people's like oh erica's gonna try to kill you when candace owens is like well erica like i
00:36:18.140
don't know like got bought her a drink or something she's like well i didn't drink it like but like
00:36:22.200
she she's been very explicit either because she's being hit with like major defamation
00:36:26.860
or slander lawsuit threats or because she actually just for some reason really doesn't want to
00:36:33.960
implicate this but there's the egyptian planes component that i think a lot of people will have to do
00:36:38.740
especially if she knows that it's fake to blame somebody for killing like the mother their husband
00:36:44.160
yeah the mother of children yeah because she also is a mother of children actually like a fake thing
00:36:49.340
she's doing for entertainment purposes yeah i can see her being like look even i'm not that much yeah
00:36:53.780
even yeah yeah yeah she's not that debauched but a lot of people mock her for the whole egyptian
00:36:58.740
planes thing and i didn't know how they fit in so i'm going to explain for those who like
00:37:02.940
what who the plane record she got them all wrong well yes but here's what she claimed she claimed
00:37:11.180
the egyptian military or surveillance aircraft and she was specifically identifying the planes like
00:37:17.580
su-btt and su-bnd via flight tracking data from sources like adsb exchange were repeatedly tracking
00:37:28.200
or overlapping with the locations of erica church erica kirk and then on the day of the assassination
00:37:34.020
she she claimed that at least one or maybe both of these egyptian planes was present or
00:37:41.580
powered on the provo airport which is right by where charlie kirk was and then she says that one took
00:37:48.700
off shortly after while the other remained grounded and that passengers 11 allegedly received rental cars
00:37:54.160
possibly linked to duncan aviation and she implied that they were operatives and foreign entities on
00:38:00.060
the ground and then she's referenced tips including unnamed quote-unquote federal agents
00:38:05.400
warning her to stop discussing the planes and alleged tp usa pressured her to drop it too but she she
00:38:13.500
basically just is trying to say people are trying to shut me up about this and cover it up and i think
00:38:18.540
when people are like candace you're wrong about this like you were just like hey she used she used the
00:38:23.440
she tracked the data wrong i think when people even in it who are her supporters and who believe what
00:38:30.100
she says try to correct her because they actually did fact check and they couldn't find they just couldn't
00:38:36.000
back up what she was claiming the way her brain intuitively interprets that is oh you are trying to
00:38:42.120
silence me so i think that's that's kind of the problem you're factually wrong you're just like oh i see what
00:38:49.680
you're a federal agent aren't you like that kind of thing but let's also of course the brain works
00:38:55.640
like that she has a beautiful mind she's a very stable genius and let's let's go speaking of
00:39:01.240
geniuses and exceptional people her whole x-men style school for gifted children thing
00:39:06.640
yeah so this whole thing about charlie kirk being marked as a child due to exceptional abilities like
00:39:13.780
off the chart test scores and things like that maybe maybe possibly foresight she she alleged that
00:39:20.960
agents wanted to drug him for behavioral issues but that his mother refused and this led to him being
00:39:26.680
placed in a school for the gifted akin to the x-men academy and she was possibly referring to programs
00:39:32.720
like gate or schools out of quest academy in illinois and she says that he was monitored by government
00:39:38.240
agents his whole life required security early on and that she herself was recruited for a similar
00:39:44.580
program but quote pretended to be an idiot and quote to escape and critics note kirk attended public
00:39:51.800
schools like wheeling high school and did not graduate college and this contradicts the whole narrative
00:39:57.380
so to be fair arguably school teachers are government agents and also it's super common for teachers
00:40:05.540
and school administrators to insinuate and at the very least possibly even explicitly encourage parents
00:40:11.340
to drug their children uh like to give adderall to to especially smart energetic boys like they're
00:40:18.760
drugged to high heaven so she's not wrong that he was monitored by government agents his entire youth
00:40:26.680
and and that they tried to drug him because that's like literally any boy in america who goes to school
00:40:34.300
yeah that that happened to me growing up like i don't know i also think both you and i were in
00:40:39.900
the gate program i mean yeah i was in a lot of well various like gifted programs i was in my i was
00:40:44.900
definitely i was actually in gate i remember testing into it and i remember going to it and i i have
00:40:51.100
zero memory of what we actually did i remember i remember it where we would meet for class it was in
00:41:00.260
the our our school auditorium which was also our school lunchroom which was also our school
00:41:06.480
basketball like indoor basketball court but i don't i remember seeing a folding table we didn't do
00:41:13.440
anything yeah being being moderate yeah i but i love that she she pretended to be dumb
00:41:18.900
just to stay away from the program everyone wanted to be in that program because you could get out
00:41:25.020
a normal class and basically do nothing because i don't think i love the idea if you have this
00:41:30.240
this this paranoid child who has it takes tests for like the gifted program and they they like i put on
00:41:39.960
oh so yeah anyway on the x-men thing like well he wasn't in any special schools she's not technically
00:41:49.000
wrong about the other she is technically wrong she is entirely wrong well no i mean okay he didn't go
00:41:55.380
to like an x-men academy but like a government agents monitored him and tried to drug him
00:42:01.340
yeah okay true so that's true i'm saying that's true i'm confirming this one true okay so i love that
00:42:07.660
there's a bunch of these where i'm just like well it depends on how you look at it no she she she she
00:42:12.780
spends a good yarn and maybe this maybe she warrants then the 240 000 she gets a month minimum
00:42:19.340
on patreon not a little salty about that at all we get i'm very for those of you who support us on
00:42:27.380
patreon though i am so freaking grateful it really means a lot to us so thank you so let's go to the
00:42:32.640
time traveler claim though because let's not forget about that she she stated it as an absolute fact
00:42:38.680
that kirk believed he was a time traveler based on private text messages where you know and for the
00:42:45.980
first with the way she she framed this all before she actually shared a screenshot of the text exchange
00:42:51.660
which i read to you at the top was that you know he he said he was a time traveler and that he had to
00:42:57.500
find her and and she also claims that that he knew he would die young to change outcomes and then
00:43:04.520
speculated that this was tied to cia's project looking glass which is this conspiracy theory
00:43:10.300
about a time traveling device from the at the ancient samaria like it's linked to the mandela
00:43:17.040
what a cool effing world we need to have a video game that just takes place in the world that candace
00:43:21.980
i made one on reality fabricator you're candace owens and everything you say is true like all your
00:43:27.000
conspiracy theories are true and i had to create a summary of all of our conspiracy theories and i put it
00:43:31.940
into that when you make a custom scenario on grok you you can you can have like the premise of it
00:43:38.000
be public and up front and then you can put stuff in the back end of like the plot of whatever adventure
00:43:42.680
you've created that the user can't see but that the ai knows so as you play through it it all those
00:43:49.340
plot devices come out all of her conspiracy theories so like you'll bump into them as you play
00:43:55.780
kind of someone's trying to survive in a world of you know what i like about her conspiracy theories
00:44:01.060
yeah is the they are very different from standard conspiracy theory narratives it's not like aliens
00:44:08.540
and everything like that or reptilians or anything it's you know secret government schools and and spying
00:44:15.520
on you and like sort of like almost gang stalking related stuff but tied to other people like yeah
00:44:20.920
yeah it is um a fascinatingly unique conspiratorial world that like borders on the believable in many
00:44:29.960
ways if you're prone to like it's not yeah i have energetic powers it's charlie mentally yes and it
00:44:36.720
and i i tried to find out because we have these texts that he sent her which explain the time traveler
00:44:42.080
part where she like way yes anded that like a lot but i couldn't get i was trying to find out where
00:44:48.700
she got the impression that he thought he would die or knew he would die young i mean you and i get
00:44:54.340
this impression that we're gonna die like any day yeah we talked about that i feel like part of that
00:44:59.300
could just be that he kind of had the same mindset that we do which is like i just can't imagine making
00:45:04.520
it past like to the next year i'll tell you where she got it from where like i i can already sort of
00:45:11.860
figure this out she got it because it's narratively the most interesting thing well no no no we we
00:45:16.800
actually so i'll tell i mean in her in her january 14th podcast of this year so like four days ago as
00:45:23.520
of this recording titled project looking glass how did charlie know he was going to die this is episode
00:45:29.620
290 of her candace show she explicitly states that kirk repeatedly told her he was a time traveler and
00:45:35.680
expressed foreknowledge of dying young and then she claims that he he tied this to his work with
00:45:41.400
turning points usa saying things like from the beginning of turning points usa he quote knew in
00:45:47.420
his gut that he might get wiped out at any time end quote and dreamed about it frequently she claims
00:45:53.280
he quote was not sure he would live to see the end of this revolution end quote and believed owens was
00:45:58.920
the person meant to quote finish the fight end quote after him and then he predicted his death would be a
00:46:05.120
tragic event connected to the organization and that he would die young as part of a larger mission
00:46:10.860
or predetermined outcome so that's what she said very recently it's very clear so first of all
00:46:16.520
remember what she extrapolated into he the time traveler she doesn't think she's an alien from that
00:46:22.060
exchange i know i know it's so great it's so great yeah it's not two-sided no nothing she says is a joke
00:46:28.720
just things that other people say can't be joked but then the wider point being is when she looks at
00:46:33.920
something like this so he says he said he might die young or like he's afraid of being assassinated
00:46:40.920
which anyone who's his profile would be he gets totally totally right yeah we get death threats
00:46:45.600
constantly we talk about that with people that we talk to like obviously that's what he talked to
00:46:49.900
about i might die as part of my advocacy yeah and something like it'd be normal to say something like
00:46:54.960
and i well it was a real risk i mean he had security he knew that there were threats i'm sure he got
00:46:58.960
death threats all the time yeah yeah so did he say that to her yeah probably yeah you know but
00:47:05.580
does that she's just threading it together she's running out of time so let's keep going okay so
00:47:11.900
first off i just had to kind of like reality check this like is is there actually evidence that anyone
00:47:18.440
genuinely believes what she's saying because i could see a world in which she's just just doing jazz
00:47:25.660
with conspiracy theories but everyone else is just like they're not believing it but there are
00:47:31.240
absolutely posts that i found even after a tiny bit of scrolling on her twitter feed or on x or just
00:47:38.580
seeing what people have sent me about candace owens of people absolutely trying to defend her one
00:47:43.660
example is laurie love who has over 19 000 followers on x defending owens time traveler claims by pointing
00:47:50.660
to her sharing the text exchange screenshot she writing candace owens claims charlie kirk was a
00:47:57.040
time traveler she's insane she's psychotic kind of you know voicing the doubts of people as expressed
00:48:04.460
and then she writes correction charlie kirk said he was a time traveler as if like mic drop
00:48:10.000
like as if this wasn't obviously a flirty exchange that where they're just kind of joking or at least i
00:48:17.280
mean candace owens just joking that she's an alien i anyway in terms of whether anything other than joke
00:48:24.160
back to that how else do you even respond to that i know i know exactly like he's doing what any normal
00:48:30.000
person with social skills would do so i think it's so i'm just saying there are people online who are
00:48:36.320
feeding into it and who are so earnest and don't see the irony however her fans are absolutely trolling
00:48:43.620
her and egging her on as well and it's not just her fans the daily wire also trolls her so one thing
00:48:51.880
they did recently was they made a fake egyptian air advertisement riffing on her egyptian planes
00:48:57.620
conspiracy theory and and posted it from her her old daily wire account uh which is delightful
00:49:06.640
that's a good meme i like that and then i think she what did the ad say what was the joke oh let me
00:49:12.260
i'll send you you can watch it you can watch it really quick hold on let me send you a link because
00:49:16.860
it's it's funny it's cute okay go to whatsapp you should be obsessed with traveling not just the
00:49:24.040
destination but the experience of getting there when you travel with us you'll feel warm you'll feel
00:49:30.040
welcomed and you'll feel watched because every seat comes with the peace of mind of knowing someone
00:49:36.260
is following you following you with two planes this is what you can expect when you fly with
00:49:42.480
at egyptian air we definitely never mix up our time zones flight numbers or flight time we don't know
00:49:52.240
every journey is your personal business after all your personal business is our business is our motto
00:49:59.340
egyptian air wherever you travel we will follow
00:50:03.380
simone what is it's a good troll even we just i wish i lived in this world of trolling candace owens
00:50:12.460
we don't have crazy people in our world well we'll get there but here's i would i also need to point
00:50:18.280
out that candace owens actively feeds into this so she made a post recently where she said
00:50:26.680
question for conspiracy theorists in quotes only what's the real reason the deep state is suddenly
00:50:33.340
obsessed with seizing greenland so she actively calls out conspiracy theorists in scare quotes
00:50:40.220
and asks them to share theories with her so there is there is
00:50:45.000
i don't have a good conspiracy theory on this one yet i'm gonna crowdsource give me some give me some
00:50:51.340
material guys and they didn't even have to pay 20 a month for that wow i mean like this is this is
00:50:56.420
the hack if you really want to feed into the candace owens and have her listen to you but not pay
00:51:00.400
20 to feed her conspiracies about us i loved hearing on joe rogan that i'm a vampire and so well and
00:51:06.060
actually she she's she said that she was really enjoying listening to a podcast i think associated with
00:51:13.900
kurt metzker so anyway let's get to what flavor of psychosis does candace owens have so in favor of
00:51:22.100
ai psychosis 2025 was the first year ai psychosis really arose that is also when candace owens got
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really big and when all of these these conspiracy theories i just shared with you went crazy all of
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these really got big in 2025 at around the same time that ai psychosis got big however owens was
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known for being a conspiracy theory from 2018 onward so i think if anything the ai psychosis
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got worse or made it worse or she got ai psychosis because psychosis which which fed into her
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i want to talk about the word conspiracy theorist you're using here okay yeah okay here fair because
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i'll give you i'll give you the context in which she was described as a conspiracy theorist okay great
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reporting describes her as a pro-trump conspiracy theorist which i mean come on
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she's just right about this it was right in the right wing media was tied to claims such as
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suggesting that mail bombs sent to trump's critics in october 2018 were actually a left-wing false flag
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uh claim she deleted after the suspect was identified as a trump supporter though to be fair there were tons
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of both out in the open false flag style attacks like the fact that democratic super democratic supporters
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supported super PACs donated to primaries of extreme republicans who would then win the primary but
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then be unelectable in the in the general election like there were absolutely democratic conspiracies so
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i don't know and then by 2020 she was publicly questioning official covet 19 death figures which
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everyone was attacking bill gates as a vaccine criminal i don't know um and then everyone was come on she was
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part of a broader anti-vaccine pandemic related conspiracy rhetoric this is only the case that
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is ai psychosis because all of this stuff is is conspiracy fashioning okay this is these are actual
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conspiracies a conspiracy spotter all right they're the difference between being a conspiracy oh versus
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generator you're right because now she's generating really novel interesting stuff yeah so okay with this
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stuff i remember there was a vanity fair pace that came out recently and they tried to like attack a bunch
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of the trump people and it was like jd dance to the conspiracy theorists and i'm like oh based right
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like that's pretty cool right like because when i hear that i think oh he's like questioning stats
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around like covid or something like that right like yeah i don't never really jump to the time
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travelers rfk's confirmation hearing where they're like well but you're how do you answer the the claims
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that you're a conspiracy theorist and he's like well which conspiracy theory are we talking about then
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this one because it turned out to be true this one because it turned out to be true it's just like
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oh damn yeah like what it means to be a conspiracy theorist now is very different from what it meant
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before there were genuine rampant conspiracies all around us so i touche but in favor of the fan
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driven psychosis then candace got big because of charlie kirk's assassination i will i'll give you a
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i'm gonna send you the you can basically see in 2025 her follower count just went completely
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off so she's got no reason to tone it down at this point yeah like she she is being rewarded
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for her conspiracy theories click on the graph that i sent you you can see it just goes like as soon as
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she goes off the reservation she it gets very lucrative literally no it was like it was like leveling
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off okay at around like 1.5 million right and then in one year it jumps to like 5.5 million yeah
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like let's let's talk if you are say a therapist trying to or a family or someone trying to intervene
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in someone's existing tendency toward psychosis the last thing you want to do is heavily reward it
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both in terms of fan feedback and in terms of money but what's happening with her is you get this
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skinneristic instant cha-ching plus oh my god you're amazing every time she comes up with some new
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delusion so i do think that the fan feedback so quickly do you know how quickly my brain would fry
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if if you guys loved every and i do come up with a lot of good if you monetarily loved i don't we're on
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patreon that's going to come out soon that i filmed today but i want to put this one live tomorrow but
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the one that we filmed today is why muslims never win wars of conquest after like 200 years of
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muhammad's death and it's weird like when you when you go into the data in it it's weird and it is very
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conspiratorial is it as weird as is is macron's wife being a man i think we argue that prejudice is
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good and it's why the the early i mean that's that's classic base camp bread and butter give us
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time though i mean candace was doing this longer than we have been doing we have definitely gotten
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crazier as time has gone on i'll give you that much like our fans when we did the episode saying
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that parasites are likely augmenting people's arousal pathways and thus their sexual identities
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yeah yeah give it because that's pretty deep republicans toxoplasmosis is making like giving
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people certain fetishes and stuff yeah and people were like because you know what basically people
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hear from that is being gay is contagious right and so they or alternate sexual profiles are contagious
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and then they're like they'll be talking about demons next like they're like they're good they're
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getting there and i never our fans who say this love it our fans love the deeper our conspiracies go
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i never get a hey malcolm step back from the ledge there like yeah yeah if that was accompanied with
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a bunch of paid subscriptions we'd probably feed into a more i'm not asking am i asking for that i don't
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we need money it's very cool can you see how cold it is in here right now i'm just saying we're cold
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oh but in favor of normal psychosis in favor of normal psychosis i actually do think that there
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is something to this there is no reliable public evidence that candace owens has any sort of family
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history of psychosis or schizophrenia and she's certainly not discussed any family history here
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there's no like critical biological news sources on this so i there's no like oh well she comes from
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her family with this kind of problem however like jordan peterson has talked about his family having all
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the sorts of you know health problems that he then associates with so i'm just saying like there are
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other people who talk about these things candace owens doesn't talk about this however she does seem
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to have this general tendency to think in a schizo manner that stems back even to her early career
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before you could have ai or fan-based psychosis because in 2016 during her whole soul autopsy her like
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doxing what you remember her like first business venture was basically a doxing website for doxing other
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people yeah social autopsy was supposed to be like this it it was there was her entry to the gamer gate
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circles where she she blamed progressive gamers in the left for doxing her despite her like basically
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very scant evidence and in this case she basically had this very conspiratorial like they're out to get
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me mindset about being doxed and being persecuted and i think from as long as there's sort of a
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public record of her there's a record of her thinking that people are out to get her and that
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there are conspiracies against her so i think it is part of her general mindset and so what i think we
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have with the psychosis maxing of candace owens is a perfect storm of someone who just by personality
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be it schizo or not tends to view things conspiratorially and also tends to believe people
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have it out for her personally then being subject to ai driven psychosis at the same time she is
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subject to fan driven psychosis you get this really powerful result and that is why suddenly there's
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stories of charlie kirk going to the x-men style i think that we have evidence you have shared with me
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what i found to be very credible evidence of ai psychosis specifically the type of conspiracy that
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she was building where she was going through i think it was like random strings of letters tied to
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like call signs on yeah yeah yeah yeah and connecting them with like famous events from history and it was
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not the type of connection that a human could easily make but it's the type of connection you could force
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an ai to make like but also like the the frankist stuff like that's that's deep and i think you have been
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able to do a lot of religious history research because ai has enabled those searches i i would
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be shocked if she doesn't use ai to power her research she doesn't have like a big staff or
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operation i mean her husband manages the business side of her business i don't think he's that involved
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in her content and i don't think she has a big staff so i think she's leaning heavily on ai and
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the the correlation between someone who leans heavily on ai for research and who then asks ai
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a sort of mirror mirror on the wall situation that drives people nuts is it's you know the risk is
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higher right you know when you're exposed right but the structure of some of her conspiracy theories
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basically a human couldn't structure a conspiracy theory that way not quickly they might be able to
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you know putting it on the site letting the autist go at it for a few months and then come back and
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been like well they found because it wasn't like exact it was like okay there was this call sign
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which rep was like this camp in world war ii and there was this call sign which was this secret
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military group yeah like the napoleonic wars and there was this call sign and it was like those are
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really not normal connections yeah only ai could easily and fastly do that at scale otherwise yeah
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you have to wait for autists to churn and churn and churn that's yeah that's fair although i think
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again it's even more super powered by the fact that you do have all these people feeding her stuff and
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are actively asking people to feed her stuff so it's it's top minds i'm asking you guys if we have
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any people in the candace owens get her on our conspiracy theories okay we've got a lot of good
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ones here we got a lot of good ones could be synergistic yeah but i mean unless we have to we have
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to plausibly be implicated in charlie kirk's murder because that is ultimately the big cash cow like that is
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the thing all these things even the crons keep in mind you know like everything except for dinosaurs in the
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moon landing being fake and gay are pretty much connected in some way to charlie kirk it all comes
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back to charlie kirk i mean his his martyrdom was her her skyrocketing to fame and she is very shameful
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as it is it's really yeah it is it hurts me to see that part of it it's very i don't like saying
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cringe but it is if if she's not just crazy she's a very bad person like that's just but see i don't
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think he means to be i mean i think she genuinely really liked charlie kirk they clearly flirted and
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had fun and i don't mean like i don't mean to insinuate any bad both were married happily i think
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they were both very happily married too um i just think that they were playful friends and they liked
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each other and he was nice to her i mean to be fair i think he was very playful and kind and and
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charismatic with everyone he worked with which is one reason why he was so successful in his role in
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a great fundraiser to boot but yeah i think she genuinely cared a lot for him and it drove her
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pretty nuts to see him but here's the here's the other thing is when you are in in this period of grief
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and emotional insanity when you lose someone you care a lot about and then everyone rewards you
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when you go through this one period of your grief where you're like oh it was the jews who did it it was
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tp usa it was the french it was ah and then like and then then people feed into that when you're kind of
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driven crazy by your grief you can do crazy things you know i don't think this was intentional i don't
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think she was like wow i just think when it's very hard to go against your instincts when you do
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something and then get immense rewards for it it's it's just classic conditioning dave chapelle has also
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talked about this but he was saying and i think this is something at play here that it can be very
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hard for famous people to accept that just a random crazy person can kill one of your friends and
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this is hard for normal people to accept and so you invent a more larger theory about why and his
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death was actually part of some bigger conspiracy but it's uniquely hard as chapelle pointed out and
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i can't easily emphasize with this for whatever reason that random nobodies can just kill you for
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no reason other than their weird ideological agenda okay yeah i mean i i hear that i think you nailed it on
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the head what's causing this and i feel like i i i mean you you say i hope she gets better but it's
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making her money so you know like if she gets better will anyone care what she has to say anymore right
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like it's a you know that's the thing is she can't really go back now
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i maybe the way that this can work out the best is she settles her lawsuit with macrons and she
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becomes the the trend spotter of new emerging conspiracy theories but manages to be the person
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who separates the the wheat from the chaff and actually surfaces new and good conspiracy theories
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that are true and credible and that change the way that people you and i know exactly where this goes
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so what's going to happen is she's going to keep spiraling into crazier and crazier stuff until it's
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clear to any mainstream fan base she has that she's actually just a crazy person
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it's already getting pretty far i mean keep in mind this kind of happened in much slower motion to
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alex jones where he starts fairly normal and then he gets a little crazier and a little crazier and then
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he's shouting at the camera and about to lose it but this took like 10 or 20 years for him because
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he didn't feed into it as quickly she's just gone all in immediately like she's at a point now that's
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way crazier than alex jones ever got but she's making 250k a month just on patreon as long as she
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and her husband save responsibly they can i don't think she's gonna save responsibly simone
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i'm just saying they can be be financially independent for the rest of their lives and
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just live off their dividends if she can be financially responsible yeah but i mean look
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she's gonna make a million from patreon alone in a quarter
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four million a year she'll have eight million in two years that means that just off the invested
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amount she could have over 20k a month in take-home income i mean some of that will be taxed it's just
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that like that i'm i'm i candace save response i mean her husband's managing the business she just
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she's just going off i i imagine he's the kind of responsible man who's who's quietly banking this
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and he's like look we'll just have her she'll get a lot of work done after this like yeah like
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we will help her after right now let's just rake it in and we'll pick up the pieces and put her
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back together as we live quietly on a farm somewhere far away from all of this and offline
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you know yeah i that is that that is what i'm hoping for her husband in the background just
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he'll pick up the pieces but right now he's he's doing what he needs to do you know get that bag sir
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it's true yeah true well you are amazing i love this episode i thought you did an absolutely
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excellent job of introducing me to all these ideas because i i didn't know that i'm going into this
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i was delighted to learn them as well and check out reality fabricator if you want to play i'll give
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you the link to that there's the there's the shareable link scenario where you're you're candace
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owens but all of the conspiracy theories are true if you want to understand what it's like to live in
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her world you will know now you can play as her in in her world delightful so i love you malcolm and
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for dinner we're making mystery curry with green onions peppers and i'm going to put cream in
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because you wanted cream in your curries right i love that idea yes well and because it's a mystery
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curry you probably poison sauce and sambal olik added yeah so sambal olik i'm of course going to
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saute garlic before i put it all in too so okay i love you and actually would you since you're
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dressed would you mind running and getting the kids i can call stacy right now just so i can
01:08:34.880
yes but you call stacy okay okay i will calling her now i love you oops
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and la la la la la la la la la la la la oh wait why did you go there
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you are already in the toilet okay why do we put it there there's not one in the toilet
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oh wait it's not connected that's why the mouse is not working
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Yeah, you plugged the mouse in there. That might have broken it, by the way.
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Octavian, be careful about being so close to the edge of the bed.
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I just want to play a mini-game where we got to make a rollercoaster.
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Yeah, I'll put on Rollercoaster Tycoon for you, don't worry.
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Wait, Octavian, but you've got to say like and subscribe.