Based Camp - Psychosis Maxing With Candace Owens

00:00:00.000 but actually this makes way more sense oh no oh god is this just going to be where like i tell

00:00:05.800 you candace that was conspiracy theory and you're like well but that's right simone so you're not

00:00:10.360 going to respond to the 9-11 the bolshevik revolution claim the harvard university is

00:00:18.780 massad base just we're just putting it out there first of all harvard university could be a massad

00:00:24.640 base that would not be like a crazy thing you know what no i don't want your response we're just

00:00:29.460 gonna go no hold on no we need a plausibility check what are you doing i'm trying to say she's

00:00:36.780 psychotic and you're like me too me too no i'm i you it's important that you point out where her

00:00:42.600 things aren't that crazy because first of all spy operations have repeatedly throughout history

00:00:48.380 used university campuses specific university campuses for recruiting new assets and agents

00:00:54.680 i want to talk about the word conspiracy theorist you're using here okay okay here would you like

00:00:59.440 to know more hello malcolm i am so excited to be speaking with you today because candace owens has

00:01:06.300 gone off the reservation so much that i think we need to talk about it it was a recent one you were

00:01:11.380 telling me this morning and i was like what the she thought that charlie kirk was trained at a school

00:01:18.240 like for gifted children like in the x-men with special the first thing that like really caught my

00:01:23.520 attention was that she she claimed that charlie kirk was a time traveler based on basically a

00:01:29.740 joking flirty text that he sent to her where she texted him i'm an alien frowny face and he responded

00:01:38.140 i think i'm a time traveler this is my home but i think you found me and time traveled with me and she

00:01:44.860 took that and just ran with it this wasn't like you know she's just gonna like i'm gonna take things

00:01:50.240 hard literally and someone else put it better than i did writes with regard to the x-men thing

00:01:55.640 the cinnamon shogun on x wrote candace owens is now saying that charlie kirk has was marked since a

00:02:03.780 child because he has special powers she thinks he could possibly see into the future and claims he went

00:02:09.400 to a secret school for kids with gifted abilities like the x-men that's where we're at folks and he

00:02:15.180 posted a clip of her talking about this followed by the x-men intro which which i absolutely love

00:02:20.220 charlie may have been marked since he was a child we've discussed these gate programs that they have

00:02:26.520 in school and i just think on the basis of what he told me that when he was really young they wanted

00:02:31.660 to drug him but his mother said no and he was really grateful for that and instead they decided

00:02:36.980 that they could send him to this x-men school that's the best way i can describe it i would certainly

00:02:41.480 by the way for you internet sleuth i'd like to find out which school charlie had to attend so he was

00:02:46.600 pulled out of the regular school he was attending and he had to go to some special school for the

00:02:50.660 gifted like he was next man

00:02:52.540 yeah so i mean i love it actually going into this you you went over this with me this morning i'm like

00:03:16.240 simone you have multiple times recently told me something crazy candace owens said yeah you were

00:03:20.680 aghast at yeah we need to make an episode on all of her because her worldview i want to live in her

00:03:25.880 mind it must be the craziest world yeah and actually your whole thesis was this because you wanted to

00:03:32.120 find out what kind of crazy was she was she like audience captured was she like having genuine

00:03:37.200 what flavor of psychosis does she have is this like old school psychosis is this audio audience 1.00

00:03:44.440 capture psychosis or is this ai induced psychosis and so what we're going to do in this episode

00:03:51.000 is we are going to go through her conspiracy theories and we're going to look at you know

00:03:57.240 has her audience kind of egged this on and then we're going to we're going to come to a conclusion

00:04:00.940 on what what like it or she just like is it all of them it could because i mean we're going to go

00:04:07.380 into it though but i just i want to point out though just how wild it is before i even give you

00:04:13.400 the full depth of all of her conspiracy theories just how how many followers she has so on x she has 7.5 0.98

00:04:23.720 million followers and for scale brett cooper who's also part of like the daily wire cinematic

00:04:30.480 universe and also someone who left the daily wire though more recently she compared to candace owens

00:04:37.140 7.5 million has just 536.8 000 ben shapiro who's 8 million so only 500 000 more than candace owens

00:04:47.300 who's who's more of an up-and-comer than you know like she's newer to the scene than ben shapiro

00:04:51.820 but she doesn't have money and interest backing her like he does yeah i know right so this is like

00:04:56.580 really impressive she's just a crazy person yeah asthma gold has 1.2 million elon musk has 1.00

00:05:03.520 well i think but sorry like 242.5 million donald trump 109 million hassan piker 1.6 million

00:05:13.720 greta tunberg 5.1 million so just to give you kind of like a landscape candace owens is at the higher 0.71

00:05:19.940 end she's obviously not at like donald trump or elon musk level but she's above asmund gold just a tiny 0.87

00:05:25.920 bit below ben shapiro on youtube she is 5.74 million subscribers ben shapiro shapiro has 7.13

00:05:33.940 million brett cooper who only left the dailyware for fairly recently is just 1.68 million asmund gold

00:05:40.740 has 4.3 so candace owens has more subscribers on youtube than asmund gold even though like asmund gold

00:05:46.840 i think speaks for the typical centrist american who's online whereas candace owens speaks to like 0.99

00:05:52.740 someone wearing a tinfoil hat and this is the thing the the the the the scale and scope of her 0.95

00:05:59.760 conspiracies as we get to them these are not like us dunking on candace owens for like being wrong

00:06:06.700 like it's not even like these aren't even things worth like debunking or differences of political

00:06:10.780 opinion charlie kirk was not a times traveler raised with special power so that's what you think

00:06:16.900 i mean who were we to say but we are going to go into these no no no no no no actually i know we

00:06:21.840 can joke about this but the point that i'm making here is this is not about us saying we have political

00:06:27.580 differences with candace owens oh yeah no no no no this is she is just she is unhinged and yet even on 0.94

00:06:35.300 patreon she has 11.8k members and her membership starts at 20 per month though it also i think that

00:06:43.140 it's 50 and then 75 um this is what i love about candace owens no i want to point out that that

00:06:48.880 the ec and the unit economics of that work out to 237,200 per month wow per month just from patreon

00:06:58.040 that's not including all of her her sponsorships her youtube revenue everything else that she gets

00:07:03.740 like she is making tons like people are spending a lot of money and the only reason they're paying

00:07:09.900 for that for the minute this is assuming she gets only minimum to your payers and what you get for 0.92

00:07:14.760 that is just the ability to quote submit questions and comments to have answered or discussed in the

00:07:20.920 final segment of a shot in the dark this will be the only pool of questions selected from and i feel

00:07:26.240 like again this is this is going to come in later as we try to figure out what is driving her psychosis 0.97

00:07:31.600 i almost feel like a very large number of those people do not believe at all in what she's saying

00:07:38.480 they just want to make her more crazy and they are paying 20 a month to be able to to give her 1.00

00:07:46.020 questions and comments that she has to read so that they can drive her more crazy

00:07:51.160 this is the thing about candace owens and her conspiracies yeah other other people will pick up 1.00

00:07:59.400 on like pre-existing conspiracy theories and expand them candace owens invents and generates 1.00

00:08:08.100 entirely new and intricate strains of conspiracy theory and it may be that this is a genre of

00:08:13.740 entertainment that people very much like and enjoy and are willing to pay for

00:08:17.580 but also our show is conspiracy theories no culture but the west blah blah blah blah oh my god is she 0.80

00:08:22.780 like the new charles dickens because charles dickens has changed you know he serialized his books

00:08:28.480 and then people would write into him and be like you can't kill this character like this has to happen

00:08:33.340 and he's changed his plots because people have complained like he he was the the og person

00:08:38.340 subject to moderate amounts at least of audience capture so if he lived today all of his characters

00:08:43.460 would be gay and trans they'd say do you like well it depends on his audience right i mean candace 0.95

00:08:47.980 owens is an example of like conservative christian conspiracy theorist audience capture or like i don't

00:08:53.120 know troll audience capture in her extended fiction universe the the president macron's wife with a man

00:09:00.240 yeah let's just go no no no let's don't jump the shark here let's go through her claims one by one and

00:09:05.780 we we can actually let's start with the anti-semitic ones and i think this is really important because

00:09:10.160 i think this might have been something that really helped her get started even before the

00:09:15.000 well and the thing is i think there's her anti-semitic theories may be among the most

00:09:22.660 important because i think they led to a surge of support for her because anti-semitism is totally 0.87

00:09:29.520 on the rise we've gotten bumps when we post anti-semitic content so i could see how you would

00:09:36.180 be even at the very least subconsciously motivated to lean into anti-semitic content and her unique

00:09:42.960 flavor of anti-semitism i think really feeds into something that the anti-semitic like fans of the

00:09:50.500 internet extra like because there's a huge correlation between someone being anti-semitic

00:09:55.580 and very openly and enthusiastically anti-semitic online and then also wanting to conflate jews with

00:10:00.820 conspiracy theories and candace like improvs conspiracy she's like the jazz master of of anti-semitic 1.00

00:10:09.260 conspiracy theories i gotta point out here before you go further we actually haven't done any

00:10:12.940 actually anti-semitic videos but we will sometimes intentionally try to make title cards make it

00:10:18.600 look as if the video is going to be anti-semitic because i know it will do better if the average

00:10:23.200 youtube watcher thinks they're about to watch something anti-semitic but a lot of the comments

00:10:26.460 that we get when they are anti-semitic it's like well like the j-o-o's or the the like juice emoji

00:10:32.440 are commenters are anti-semitic yeah well no but not just that they're anti-semitic the the correlation

00:10:38.320 between as someone who makes an anti-semitic comment who also is making a comment about jews

00:10:43.980 doing conspiracies is like 80 80 80 you're right actually something anti-semitic they're also

00:10:49.640 going to say something conspiratorial candace owens is like oh so here's what some of the 0.99

00:10:55.320 actually hold on i just had a realization what judaism is almost like the freemasons were still

00:11:01.180 a religion you know like all the the conspiracy theories like believe the freemasons like do this

00:11:05.740 and do that and do that yeah like the simpson song yeah it's like with judaism it's like they

00:11:12.460 just found an actual group of people and ascribed it all to them yeah yeah no totally and and they

00:11:18.420 love that and that's i think that's one of the though charlie kirk was the major inflection point

00:11:23.740 for her the anti-semitic stuff is like a very big engine for anyone in terms of growth especially

00:11:30.420 if they feed into conspiracy theories so this is crucial in terms of what she's actually argued

00:11:35.220 with her anti-semitic conspiracy theorizing she has alleged that jews founded israel as part of a

00:11:42.040 cult linked to frankist the frankist sect she is she's the one who's all about the frankist set

00:11:48.460 who are the frankists what's what's the lore here i haven't so she said that they were involved in

00:11:53.280 crimes against christians during passover i've not heard of frankists from anyone but her and every

00:11:59.280 time i try to listen to her talk about it i get real confused i don't know if it's because of my

00:12:04.840 feminized brain being so stupid you'll you'll come to understand that candace also realizes that

00:12:12.100 women are not very smart and if women are in successful positions it's probably because they're 1.00

00:12:16.780 really men but yeah i i don't quite understand okay hold on i'll read i'll read a explanation of

00:12:23.480 who she thinks they are okay okay the frankists followers of the 18th century figure jacob frank

00:12:29.600 represented a secretive heretical cult that she describes as the preferred religion of the elites

00:12:34.800 she portrayed but then how does this how can this have to do with crimes against christians during

00:12:39.180 passover wait wait we'll get there okay she describes them as devil worshipers who practice 0.94

00:12:44.480 deception inversion of morals and extreme transgressions including pda files incest and

00:12:51.640 ritualistic crimes as part of their religious beliefs owens claims frankism is an offshoot

00:12:57.260 or continuation of sabbatism from the early false messiah shabbatai zevi

00:13:03.640 oh that face is me realizing that i got balsham tov confused with shabbatai levi two figures who i think

00:13:13.700 are bad figures from jewish history but jews would not think that balsham tov was as bad as shabbatai

00:13:19.520 levi and so i was very embarrassed and then i was trying to remember if i had put that episode live

00:13:25.660 yet or if i had time to fix it and i did not have time to fix it but emphasizes its antinomial

00:13:32.360 anti-law nature where followers deliberately violate moral religious norms to achieve some form

00:13:37.900 of spiritual elevation of power i just realized you can understand how this just flies right over my head

00:13:43.600 right knowing me well it actually makes sense so shabbatai levi really did practice those things

00:13:48.880 mm-hmm um so you're just saying candace owens is right about everything what about this she claimed 1.00

00:13:55.840 that jews orchestrated the bolshevik revolution to exterminate christians and that harvard university 0.87

00:14:01.460 serves as a massad base and that israel was behind 9-11 and that the holocaust was exaggerated or

00:14:07.520 fabricated um she has repeatedly stated that the frankists are not true jews but imposters who

00:14:12.500 reject mainstream judaism which would be the case if they were followers of sabbatai levi and were

00:14:17.240 excommunicated by rabbinical authorities instead they allegedly infiltrate other faiths such as

00:14:21.720 christolicism through false conversions to undermine or destroy christian societies and empires well 0.92

00:14:27.480 then why does she blame israel for stuff unless israel has actually infiltrated i'm sorry unless this

00:14:32.780 sect has the frankist has have successfully infiltrated all of like well okay so if frankists

00:14:38.300 are descendants from shabbatai levi it would be a branch from judaism but it would be a inversion of

00:14:46.100 judaism like literally what shabbat zabbatai levi believed was that you needed to invert all the

00:14:51.260 laws of judaism because we were in the messianic period and so that meant that morality had become

00:14:55.780 inverted i actually got this wrong i think on yesterday's video in editing i thought it was

00:14:59.580 balshim who did that yeah and two people at least were like you got the wrong guy yeah um thanks guys

00:15:06.440 you guys are you always fact check us and we really appreciate that fact check us i did not look it up and i

00:15:11.020 with being stupid two very important figures from jewish history around the same period we're so bad 0.94

00:15:15.740 with names but actually this makes way more sense oh no oh god is this just gonna be where like i tell

00:15:23.000 you candace it was conspiracy theory and you're like well but that's right simone no i'm not saying

00:15:27.760 it makes it but what i'm saying is it's a it's a coherent world view okay the idea so okay so she's a

00:15:34.320 good spinner of conspiracy lore okay so for people who don't know this is actually probably pretty

00:15:40.440 important there was a period where around 40 to 30 percent of the jewish community believed the

00:15:44.960 messiah had come it was somebody named shabbatai levi he ended up converting to islam that doesn't

00:15:48.520 really matter but he did believe in rule inversion and the other thing that he was totally not above

00:15:54.420 is attempting to influence other groups and stuff like that like after the demoralization that came

00:15:59.600 was shabbatai levi's conversion into islam yes you could say that his faction got really demoralized

00:16:08.320 and they didn't just get demoralized it is true absolutely true that portions of the factions that

00:16:15.280 followed him went sort of underground because they were too embarrassed to admit that they still

00:16:20.220 practice some of these things from this guy who turned out to be a fraud who betrayed everyone and

00:16:25.120 he's the guy who i think it's like the actual antichrist because he a complete inversion of jesus

00:16:29.040 in terms of everything that he did you can watch our track series on that but from candace owen's

00:16:33.800 perspective could some of these secret groups still exist and have power because shabbatai levi did

00:16:40.300 associate with groups that did have power like conceivably i can see how this conspiracy works

00:16:46.420 in somebody's mind i don't think it's it's it's it's real but i would say is that if you're looking

00:16:52.320 because i've always had a problem with this where do you get like actual satanists from that makes no

00:16:57.060 sense like he's the bad guy like why are you following the guy who in the book is like there

00:17:02.120 isn't a i remember when i was a kid i asked my parents this once i was like why is anyone a

00:17:05.920 satanist when we know like by the text he's the bad guy right i mean the the real answer is is that

00:17:11.900 real world satanists don't actually worship satan they just say that they're satanists to piss off

00:17:16.000 christians and then yeah they're trolls but but there is an actual real founded in reality

00:17:23.520 theological reason from reality inversion if you believe in the metaphysics of shabbatai levi

00:17:29.720 okay so what i pulled up only brought up candace's owen's perception of this event it didn't bring up

00:17:35.240 the real event that happened and i'm a little scared i yeah i think i think some fans are gonna

00:17:41.480 think malcolm you're gonna crash out over this i'm not gonna crash out we'll just go into it it's not

00:17:46.280 like some became catholics they all became catholics so let's go into this so jacob frank after shabbatai

00:17:55.640 levi was born 60 years later in the ukraine he claimed to be the spiritual successor or reincarnation

00:18:01.980 of nevi and also the biblical patriarch jacob he took the antinomial idea much further this is the

00:18:07.740 idea that you should invert morality he taught that all existing religious laws jewish christian

00:18:12.620 and muslim were created by evil forces and must be deliberately broken to reach the ultimate 1.00

00:18:18.200 redemption his followers engaged in ritualized sexual transgressions documented orgies partner

00:18:24.880 swapping and sources mentioned incest the most famous incident was in 1756 in lakaron where they

00:18:31.740 were allegedly caught dancing around a semi-naked woman representing the shekinaya or the divine

00:18:37.720 female presence after being persecuted by jewish and christian authorities frank persuaded several

00:18:43.160 thousand followers several thousand followers to undergo a mass conversion to catholicism

00:18:50.900 but it's very clear that they kept their secret beliefs and still worshiped this individual while

00:18:57.940 practicing antinomial ideas now this is where i was like wait what like because i thought the catholic

00:19:03.460 thing you know everyone's always like oh it's a catholic to choose the catholic to choose none of the

00:19:07.540 frankists stay jews none of them stay jews they are 100 percent in the catholic church that is

00:19:13.520 the the historical reality of this if this is a conspiracy theory it is a conspiracy theory about

00:19:19.400 catholicism now i'm not arguing it's not as bad as it sounds on the surf it's pretty bad but it's not

00:19:23.980 as bad as it sounds on the surface so let's go a bit deeper here because i was like wait this doesn't

00:19:27.460 make any sense all of these people were born jews like in jewish communities of like the 1700s you

00:19:32.440 don't just randomly all become catholics so i was trying to figure out what was going on here you

00:19:36.900 know expressing doubt right and so the reason it apparently worked is they say it's a mix of

00:19:43.340 strategic survival theological beliefs and opportunism notice a sincere adoption of catholic practices

00:19:49.940 so they were facing incredibly heavy prosecution from jewish authorities so frank's teachings were

00:19:55.060 extremely heretical specifically to jews obviously if you're creating an anti-judaism that would be

00:20:00.340 heretical mostly to jews because he promoted redemption through sin deliberately breaking 0.98

00:20:05.740 jewish laws including sexual taboos like orgies and incense as a mystical path and so the jewish 0.99

00:20:11.260 community was obviously very very angry at him and he wasn't going to be easily really re-accepted

00:20:15.280 into this community with any sort of authority so to escape this frank and his group turned to

00:20:19.920 catholic bishops and nobles for shelters they cleverly told the church what they wanted to hear that

00:20:25.020 they rejected the talmud which christians often criticized but accepted kabbalistic texts and

00:20:32.660 claimed that those supported ideas like the trinity although they secretly meant their own messiah not

00:20:37.880 jesus this positioned them as potential allies against talmudic judaism and if anyone knows my thoughts

00:20:43.400 on a kabbalistic text obviously i am not a fan of this guy so frank's own theology made conversion a

00:20:51.040 required step frank claimed divine revelations saying christianity specifically catholicism was

00:20:56.880 a temporary transitional stage the future messianic religion he would reveal it was part of descending

00:21:01.940 into edom the kabbalistic symbol for christianity in the christian world as a necessary humiliation 0.95

00:21:07.520 redemption path so basically if you're being the opposite of a jew and you need to go through this

00:21:11.920 humiliation ritual or like opposite ritual catholicism made sense to him and so baptism was famed as a

00:21:19.260 ritual act to reach higher spiritual levels specifically like a sinful ritual act like baptism was to him

00:21:27.340 like an orgy was to him and more than that the conversion opened doors public catholic nobles acted as

00:21:34.980 grandparents to them gave them names titles and integration into the upper gentry which is crazy 0.97

00:21:43.320 what's interesting here is that this was all mostly fake from apparently we know this from historical

00:21:49.360 documents a classic crypto religious movement i.e secret religious movement like the moranos in spain

00:21:54.840 centuries earlier they kept secretly referring to frank as their holy master they continued the

00:21:59.260 antinomial practices in private and they intermarried only among themselves to wait for the real religion

00:22:04.360 to be revealed the church grew suspicious and frank was arrested in 1760 for feigned conversion and heresy

00:22:10.620 in prison 13 years later so what's interesting is after he disappeared we see mentions of people

00:22:18.620 practicing things tied to this i think it was what i was looking at like all the way until the late 1800s

00:22:24.620 early 1900s and very interesting the being adopted into the upper ranks as sort of approving that jew 0.60

00:22:30.660 like a large section of jews could could join them like that that's why they were so excited and so

00:22:35.600 uncredulistic about this so yeah but the pope did appear to be a suspicious from the start papal nuncio

00:22:45.220 polish primates were suspicious no frankish became priests bishops or high officials in the church so

00:22:51.880 to say that this is like carried into the catholic church i think not but the point i make is if if the

00:22:56.280 conspiracy is anywhere it's within the catholic church not jews the jews apparently hated the for

00:23:01.460 obvious reasons hated these people continue okay so you're not going to respond to the 9-11

00:23:06.300 the the bolshevik revolution claim the harvard university is massad base just we're just putting

00:23:16.300 it out there first of all harvard university could be a massad base that would not be like a crazy thing

00:23:22.040 you know what no i don't want your response we're just gonna go no hold on no we need a

00:23:26.780 you need a plausibility check what are you doing i'm trying to say she's psychotic and you're like 1.00

00:23:32.360 me too me too no i'm i you it's important that you point out where her things aren't that crazy

00:23:38.240 because you just say something like harvard university would actually make an excellent

00:23:42.500 so first of all spy operations have repeatedly throughout history used university campuses

00:23:48.640 specific university campuses for recruiting new assets and agents yeah you want competence

00:23:54.680 they get it there well it's not just competence but it's a good time on somebody's life to get

00:23:58.520 you know a blackmail on them they're they're typically more open to like you know if you're

00:24:02.900 a young person at college they're like look we'll help you get a few early good jobs you just owe us

00:24:07.160 this later like it's a very easy place to do that massad is the most competent spy craft operation

00:24:14.400 on the planet earth yeah so they don't even argue against that yeah yeah so that they would have

00:24:21.340 an operation set up at harvard seems i i'd almost think it would be unlikely that there isn't some

00:24:28.420 sort of massad recruiting operation at harvard okay yeah i mean the fbi recruited at my college but

00:24:35.720 that's just because we were based in dc okay she she also on the on the jew front we got to keep

00:24:42.040 going there's a lot more suggested that critics of israel fear for their lives and that jews assassinated

00:24:48.020 jfk and well the jfk one actually has a lot of backing to it so i thought everyone said it was

00:24:53.380 like the mafia the italian no no it was the mafia probably but what's important to note is that when

00:24:59.840 they finally released all of the jfk files and and we've gotten the like they did they finally did

00:25:05.320 a lot of them the the one thing that is censored consistently throughout all of them because i forget

00:25:10.900 how we know this but it's anything tied to israel um and apparently there was a lot tied to israel

00:25:16.200 in those files now what i think actually happened is israel was being stupid and didn't understand 0.81

00:25:23.540 how that was gonna look and so they were just like well because we do a lot of joint spy craft

00:25:28.640 operations and stuff like that and so they were probably like hey this is like proprietary information

00:25:34.200 for us israel and we did these joint operations thinking they would never get out to the public

00:25:38.120 and so do not mention our name in this and so the guy at the desk was like okay cross out israel

00:25:44.920 it's gonna make you guys look guilty as sin but i'm crossing it out okay so i looked back into this

00:25:49.920 one to try to understand why it was all crossed out when it had to tie to israel and it was actually a

00:25:55.220 blanket cross out tied to something called sources and methods meaning anything that had to do with

00:26:00.440 how we got intelligence because obviously you don't want to show sources was crossed out and we do so

00:26:06.600 much cross intelligence with israel that it made it look like israel was super tied to this and the

00:26:12.140 reason we know it's israel is because the 2025 methods unblocked all the israel mentions and then

00:26:18.660 so people were able to see when that dropped that israel had just been crossed out a ton in former

00:26:23.600 stuff but everywhere had been crossed out was very innocuous now who do i think actually killed jfk

00:26:28.660 i think it was a breakout faction was in the fbi that was attempting to maintain power

00:26:33.140 this is that yeah i could do a different episode on that but i actually think that there's a lot of

00:26:38.300 evidence that there was at the time portions of the fbi that essentially began to operate without

00:26:43.500 government supervision and the people in it thought that they were doing what was right for america and

00:26:47.820 thought that any thing that they did was was okay to do because they're long-term doing it for america

00:26:53.500 and so i think it was an fbi operation and not not like the mainstream fbi but like a branch of it but

00:26:58.660 anyway you're getting into malcolm conspiracy here yeah well we can do the if you guys want malcolm's

00:27:04.040 conspiracy corner we can we can do that just comment below let's get to the transgender

00:27:10.540 the conspiracy because i don't think stop we're going to keep going we're going to do malcolm

00:27:15.180 conspiracy corner if people want it save it but let's get to the transgender stuff because you 0.82

00:27:21.260 started with referring to macron i didn't know it was just macron so we knew about the macron

00:27:25.480 conspiracy specifically for those uninitiated that bridgete bridgete macron who's france's first lady

00:27:31.440 emmanuel macron's wife they have a weird enough relationship as it was she was his school teacher

00:27:37.500 so it was already weird people we didn't need to make it weirder but she alleges that

00:27:42.320 that bridgete was born male that her name was jean-michel trogneau but that's her brother's name

00:27:50.040 so there is one it's just her brother and this led to a defamation lawsuit that was filed last year

00:27:57.440 i think it's still going on but it wasn't oh and also just with macron she she also thinks that

00:28:03.620 they're plotting her assassination and that they are complicit in charlie kirk's murder but that's

00:28:08.240 just via french involvement in global conspiracies not like they specifically had it out for charlie

00:28:14.340 kirk but here's the thing that i didn't know about her whole transgender stuff is that she has made 1.00

00:28:18.580 similar baseless allocations about other women like michelle obama and kamala harris suggesting that

00:28:25.920 this is part of this broader pattern where powerful women's achievements defy traditional norms 1.00

00:28:32.160 i've gotta have she's like awesome powers i've gotta put that scene here 1.00

00:28:36.240 yes this is my mother mrs exposition

00:28:41.760 god what have you done that's not your mother it's a man baby 0.99

00:28:51.600 yeah come on why won't this wig come on

00:28:55.840 yeah hold on hold on hold on

00:28:59.920 my mother oh my mother are you all right

00:29:05.400 no literally literally i swear to god she's a man man

00:29:14.160 no it's like it's like the lawsuit comes out right and they're like no this is actually a woman and

00:29:19.720 and i mean of course she's like you have a lot of explaining to do i'm sorry basil i thought she

00:29:25.620 was a man damn it man you're talking about my mother well you have to admit she is rather mannish

00:29:31.100 austin well no offense but if that is a woman it does look like she was beaten with an ugly stick 1.00

00:29:37.180 what really austin she did look rather mannish

00:29:41.320 actually what was even crazier is watching this next scene in the world of trans normalization 0.98

00:29:50.780 and then imagining a based remake of austin powers where he has a similar mix-up

00:29:57.040 and they have to explain to him that this is normal now

00:30:00.180 can i get you a drink mr pal wait i've got an idea

00:30:04.680 why on earth did you hit that woman right let me show you baby that ain't no woman it's a man man 0.83

00:30:15.060 so then there's the what i would like to call the the fake and gay series she's she's referred to

00:30:23.160 some things as it's just fake and gay but sadly in this case gay just it means like the the sort of

00:30:29.940 pejorative slang and not actually gay which would have been more fun if she had like some kind of 1.00

00:30:35.500 conspiracy around for example she she describes the apollo moon landing as a fake and gay but that's not 0.97

00:30:41.280 about like gay men doing something she just she was just hosting conspiracy theory bart seibel on her

00:30:48.880 podcast at one point to promote the idea that the moon landing was staged possibly by stanley kubrick

00:30:54.960 and then she later clarified on bill mayer's podcast that she didn't care enough about the

00:31:00.380 topic to fully endorse it as a hoax but she's just like yeah moon landing fake and gay but i mean even 0.77

00:31:06.320 kim kardashian is like i mean this is i just feel like that's kind of mainstream it's it's it's flat

00:31:12.100 earthers but flat earther but make it mainstream thought or like attractive woman you know no it's it's 1.00

00:31:20.300 it's basic and i it's it is very basic yeah it's the pumpkin spice latte of conspiracy theories

00:31:25.820 moon landing was faked yeah and then dinosaurs dinosaurs are also fake and gay moon landing 0.83

00:31:31.160 and dinosaurs yeah moon landing dinosaurs yeah she's she's also promoted gnostic inspired ideas

00:31:36.480 doing certain events like kirk's assassination through this lens of ancient heresies where just

00:31:41.540 yeah but anyway so just in more broad and i think this is where we can just broadly agree with

00:31:46.580 at least one element of it and that she she on the social and political front has called she she said

00:31:53.960 that like there's been this what's the best way to put it like concerted effort to disproportionately

00:32:00.240 abort black babies and we have 100 that's true that's that up on our podcast it is true that that is 0.92

00:32:06.340 not a conspiracy and well i guess it's a conspiracy and that planned parenthood conspired to have black

00:32:12.220 babies aborted but it's not literally the reason that was to abort black children so she was right 1.00

00:32:18.240 on that one and i guess you're right like they're they're some of the things here are really well

00:32:22.040 founded but let's go to charlie kirk because i mean i think you and i would probably still agree

00:32:26.140 that tyler robinson got a little deranged and killed him you know i i don't i don't think we

00:32:33.140 we believe there was something more going on at this time but what going on is so nefarious

00:32:38.680 and bam looking for progressives and the powers that be why would you why would that be fake

00:32:43.020 yeah and also just here's where candace owens really i i i i want to i'm i'm still trying to

00:32:49.060 work out how she sees this so maybe you can explain this she says that kirk was shot from below the

00:32:54.460 stage with the assassin assassin escaping through tunnels but i've i've seen the footage and i think

00:33:00.560 many people have of the shot it doesn't look like he was shot from below she she tied the killing 0.87

00:33:08.520 to israel suggesting massad involvement due to kirk's shifting views on israel and and she

00:33:13.120 shared this text thread that was leaked because it didn't look like it it wasn't he was going

00:33:20.100 anti-israel he was and in the text thread that famously got shared wasn't one between her and

00:33:25.660 charlie kirk like with the whole time traveling flirtation thing but instead it was it was between

00:33:30.340 charlie kirk and another member of turning points usa where he was like like he was just fed up with

00:33:36.800 jewish donors for well i mean we've had episodes like that on our show like it's really frustrating 0.98

00:33:41.660 to say something like mildly like be like we should like rethink our military aid or like oh here's why

00:33:49.800 people are acting more anti-semitic and then people saying that's anti-semitic and you're like i didn't

00:33:55.480 like what's even the point of ever being nice to a community if you do the the slightest infraction

00:34:01.480 and then you catch yeah yeah biting at you right i don't know though like i'm also very mercenary

00:34:07.500 like if someone gives me money like i i dance for them yeah i do the same right you know yeah

00:34:13.280 you know you're a big jewish donor you bought a service you get the service yeah i i lack charlie

00:34:19.560 kirk's whatever well the thread though specifically let me pull it up in this thread he says just lost

00:34:27.760 another huge jewish donor two million a year because we won't cancel tucker i'm thinking of

00:34:32.280 inviting candace jewish donors playing to all the stereotypes i cannot and will not be bullied like 0.62

00:34:38.620 this leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-israel cause to which his colleague who we don't see in

00:34:44.540 the screenshot says please don't invite candace that might feel good short term but it's not good long

00:34:49.480 term in my opinion like all groups are going to get wide variety of opinions that nasty free will

00:34:55.220 thing that god bestowed on us makes life frustrating at times and then he talks about

00:34:59.500 after the dust settles something something and then it gets cut off but what charlie kirk was

00:35:04.080 experienced was he lost two million a year so to my mercenary thing i mean i might also falter if

00:35:11.800 someone stops paying maybe i might stop doing the thing they're paying for so i canceled tucker for

00:35:17.280 two million a year you want to know you want to know how much you want to know how much uh

00:35:21.060 charlie kirk better than these two i'll tell you that i know right but so it's not just

00:35:29.080 mossad that candace is blaming though she she also thinks that there are tp usa insiders not erica kirk

00:35:35.320 not erica kirk and american israel supporters and also the french military don't forget the french

00:35:40.460 military and also evangelical churches i haven't gone deep enough into like all of the the role that each

00:35:46.020 individual part plays but she's she's also linked kirk's trip to asia to this all and claimed it was

00:35:52.820 part of this larger cover-up and yeah she just to be clear because a lot of people who follow her

00:35:59.040 have have tried to insinuate or directly implicate erica kirk in in this murder and candace owens is very

00:36:07.720 clear like no i'm not blaming erica kirk and she met with erica kirk and like played up like played

00:36:13.000 into people's like oh erica's gonna try to kill you when candace owens is like well erica like i 1.00

00:36:18.140 don't know like got bought her a drink or something she's like well i didn't drink it like but like

00:36:22.200 she she's been very explicit either because she's being hit with like major defamation

00:36:26.860 or slander lawsuit threats or because she actually just for some reason really doesn't want to

00:36:33.960 implicate this but there's the egyptian planes component that i think a lot of people will have to do

00:36:38.740 especially if she knows that it's fake to blame somebody for killing like the mother their husband

00:36:44.160 yeah the mother of children yeah because she also is a mother of children actually like a fake thing 1.00

00:36:49.340 she's doing for entertainment purposes yeah i can see her being like look even i'm not that much yeah

00:36:53.780 even yeah yeah yeah she's not that debauched but a lot of people mock her for the whole egyptian 1.00

00:36:58.740 planes thing and i didn't know how they fit in so i'm going to explain for those who like

00:37:02.940 what who the plane record she got them all wrong well yes but here's what she claimed she claimed

00:37:11.180 the egyptian military or surveillance aircraft and she was specifically identifying the planes like

00:37:17.580 su-btt and su-bnd via flight tracking data from sources like adsb exchange were repeatedly tracking

00:37:28.200 or overlapping with the locations of erica church erica kirk and then on the day of the assassination

00:37:34.020 she she claimed that at least one or maybe both of these egyptian planes was present or

00:37:41.580 powered on the provo airport which is right by where charlie kirk was and then she says that one took

00:37:48.700 off shortly after while the other remained grounded and that passengers 11 allegedly received rental cars

00:37:54.160 possibly linked to duncan aviation and she implied that they were operatives and foreign entities on

00:38:00.060 the ground and then she's referenced tips including unnamed quote-unquote federal agents

00:38:05.400 warning her to stop discussing the planes and alleged tp usa pressured her to drop it too but she she

00:38:13.500 basically just is trying to say people are trying to shut me up about this and cover it up and i think

00:38:18.540 when people are like candace you're wrong about this like you were just like hey she used she used the

00:38:23.440 she tracked the data wrong i think when people even in it who are her supporters and who believe what

00:38:30.100 she says try to correct her because they actually did fact check and they couldn't find they just couldn't

00:38:36.000 back up what she was claiming the way her brain intuitively interprets that is oh you are trying to

00:38:42.120 silence me so i think that's that's kind of the problem you're factually wrong you're just like oh i see what

00:38:49.680 you're a federal agent aren't you like that kind of thing but let's also of course the brain works

00:38:55.640 like that she has a beautiful mind she's a very stable genius and let's let's go speaking of

00:39:01.240 geniuses and exceptional people her whole x-men style school for gifted children thing

00:39:06.640 yeah so this whole thing about charlie kirk being marked as a child due to exceptional abilities like

00:39:13.780 off the chart test scores and things like that maybe maybe possibly foresight she she alleged that

00:39:20.960 agents wanted to drug him for behavioral issues but that his mother refused and this led to him being

00:39:26.680 placed in a school for the gifted akin to the x-men academy and she was possibly referring to programs

00:39:32.720 like gate or schools out of quest academy in illinois and she says that he was monitored by government

00:39:38.240 agents his whole life required security early on and that she herself was recruited for a similar

00:39:44.580 program but quote pretended to be an idiot and quote to escape and critics note kirk attended public 0.62

00:39:51.800 schools like wheeling high school and did not graduate college and this contradicts the whole narrative

00:39:57.380 so to be fair arguably school teachers are government agents and also it's super common for teachers

00:40:05.540 and school administrators to insinuate and at the very least possibly even explicitly encourage parents

00:40:11.340 to drug their children uh like to give adderall to to especially smart energetic boys like they're

00:40:18.760 drugged to high heaven so she's not wrong that he was monitored by government agents his entire youth

00:40:26.680 and and that they tried to drug him because that's like literally any boy in america who goes to school

00:40:34.300 yeah that that happened to me growing up like i don't know i also think both you and i were in

00:40:39.900 the gate program i mean yeah i was in a lot of well various like gifted programs i was in my i was

00:40:44.900 definitely i was actually in gate i remember testing into it and i remember going to it and i i have

00:40:51.100 zero memory of what we actually did i remember i remember it where we would meet for class it was in

00:41:00.260 the our our school auditorium which was also our school lunchroom which was also our school

00:41:06.480 basketball like indoor basketball court but i don't i remember seeing a folding table we didn't do

00:41:13.440 anything yeah being being moderate yeah i but i love that she she pretended to be dumb 1.00

00:41:18.900 just to stay away from the program everyone wanted to be in that program because you could get out

00:41:25.020 a normal class and basically do nothing because i don't think i love the idea if you have this

00:41:30.240 this this paranoid child who has it takes tests for like the gifted program and they they like i put on

00:41:37.820 the cartman series pretending to be retarded 0.98

00:41:39.960 oh so yeah anyway on the x-men thing like well he wasn't in any special schools she's not technically

00:41:49.000 wrong about the other she is technically wrong she is entirely wrong well no i mean okay he didn't go

00:41:55.380 to like an x-men academy but like a government agents monitored him and tried to drug him

00:42:01.340 yeah okay true so that's true i'm saying that's true i'm confirming this one true okay so i love that

00:42:07.660 there's a bunch of these where i'm just like well it depends on how you look at it no she she she she

00:42:12.780 spends a good yarn and maybe this maybe she warrants then the 240 000 she gets a month minimum 0.94

00:42:19.340 on patreon not a little salty about that at all we get i'm very for those of you who support us on

00:42:27.380 patreon though i am so freaking grateful it really means a lot to us so thank you so let's go to the

00:42:32.640 time traveler claim though because let's not forget about that she she stated it as an absolute fact 0.98

00:42:38.680 that kirk believed he was a time traveler based on private text messages where you know and for the

00:42:45.980 first with the way she she framed this all before she actually shared a screenshot of the text exchange

00:42:51.660 which i read to you at the top was that you know he he said he was a time traveler and that he had to

00:42:57.500 find her and and she also claims that that he knew he would die young to change outcomes and then

00:43:04.520 speculated that this was tied to cia's project looking glass which is this conspiracy theory

00:43:10.300 about a time traveling device from the at the ancient samaria like it's linked to the mandela

00:43:17.040 what a cool effing world we need to have a video game that just takes place in the world that candace 1.00

00:43:21.980 i made one on reality fabricator you're candace owens and everything you say is true like all your

00:43:27.000 conspiracy theories are true and i had to create a summary of all of our conspiracy theories and i put it

00:43:31.940 into that when you make a custom scenario on grok you you can you can have like the premise of it

00:43:38.000 be public and up front and then you can put stuff in the back end of like the plot of whatever adventure

00:43:42.680 you've created that the user can't see but that the ai knows so as you play through it it all those

00:43:49.340 plot devices come out all of her conspiracy theories so like you'll bump into them as you play

00:43:55.780 kind of someone's trying to survive in a world of you know what i like about her conspiracy theories 1.00

00:44:01.060 yeah is the they are very different from standard conspiracy theory narratives it's not like aliens

00:44:08.540 and everything like that or reptilians or anything it's you know secret government schools and and spying

00:44:15.520 on you and like sort of like almost gang stalking related stuff but tied to other people like yeah

00:44:20.920 yeah it is um a fascinatingly unique conspiratorial world that like borders on the believable in many

00:44:29.960 ways if you're prone to like it's not yeah i have energetic powers it's charlie mentally yes and it

00:44:36.720 and i i tried to find out because we have these texts that he sent her which explain the time traveler

00:44:42.080 part where she like way yes anded that like a lot but i couldn't get i was trying to find out where

00:44:48.700 she got the impression that he thought he would die or knew he would die young i mean you and i get

00:44:54.340 this impression that we're gonna die like any day yeah we talked about that i feel like part of that

00:44:59.300 could just be that he kind of had the same mindset that we do which is like i just can't imagine making

00:45:04.520 it past like to the next year i'll tell you where she got it from where like i i can already sort of

00:45:11.860 figure this out she got it because it's narratively the most interesting thing well no no no we we

00:45:16.800 actually so i'll tell i mean in her in her january 14th podcast of this year so like four days ago as

00:45:23.520 of this recording titled project looking glass how did charlie know he was going to die this is episode

00:45:29.620 290 of her candace show she explicitly states that kirk repeatedly told her he was a time traveler and

00:45:35.680 expressed foreknowledge of dying young and then she claims that he he tied this to his work with

00:45:41.400 turning points usa saying things like from the beginning of turning points usa he quote knew in

00:45:47.420 his gut that he might get wiped out at any time end quote and dreamed about it frequently she claims

00:45:53.280 he quote was not sure he would live to see the end of this revolution end quote and believed owens was

00:45:58.920 the person meant to quote finish the fight end quote after him and then he predicted his death would be a

00:46:05.120 tragic event connected to the organization and that he would die young as part of a larger mission

00:46:10.860 or predetermined outcome so that's what she said very recently it's very clear so first of all

00:46:16.520 remember what she extrapolated into he the time traveler she doesn't think she's an alien from that

00:46:22.060 exchange i know i know it's so great it's so great yeah it's not two-sided no nothing she says is a joke

00:46:28.720 just things that other people say can't be joked but then the wider point being is when she looks at

00:46:33.920 something like this so he says he said he might die young or like he's afraid of being assassinated

00:46:40.920 which anyone who's his profile would be he gets totally totally right yeah we get death threats

00:46:45.600 constantly we talk about that with people that we talk to like obviously that's what he talked to

00:46:49.900 about i might die as part of my advocacy yeah and something like it'd be normal to say something like

00:46:54.960 and i well it was a real risk i mean he had security he knew that there were threats i'm sure he got

00:46:58.960 death threats all the time yeah yeah so did he say that to her yeah probably yeah you know but

00:47:05.580 does that she's just threading it together she's running out of time so let's keep going okay so

00:47:11.900 first off i just had to kind of like reality check this like is is there actually evidence that anyone

00:47:18.440 genuinely believes what she's saying because i could see a world in which she's just just doing jazz

00:47:25.660 with conspiracy theories but everyone else is just like they're not believing it but there are

00:47:31.240 absolutely posts that i found even after a tiny bit of scrolling on her twitter feed or on x or just

00:47:38.580 seeing what people have sent me about candace owens of people absolutely trying to defend her one

00:47:43.660 example is laurie love who has over 19 000 followers on x defending owens time traveler claims by pointing

00:47:50.660 to her sharing the text exchange screenshot she writing candace owens claims charlie kirk was a

00:47:57.040 time traveler she's insane she's psychotic kind of you know voicing the doubts of people as expressed

00:48:04.460 and then she writes correction charlie kirk said he was a time traveler as if like mic drop

00:48:10.000 like as if this wasn't obviously a flirty exchange that where they're just kind of joking or at least i

00:48:17.280 mean candace owens just joking that she's an alien i anyway in terms of whether anything other than joke

00:48:24.160 back to that how else do you even respond to that i know i know exactly like he's doing what any normal

00:48:30.000 person with social skills would do so i think it's so i'm just saying there are people online who are

00:48:36.320 feeding into it and who are so earnest and don't see the irony however her fans are absolutely trolling

00:48:43.620 her and egging her on as well and it's not just her fans the daily wire also trolls her so one thing

00:48:51.880 they did recently was they made a fake egyptian air advertisement riffing on her egyptian planes

00:48:57.620 conspiracy theory and and posted it from her her old daily wire account uh which is delightful

00:49:06.640 that's a good meme i like that and then i think she what did the ad say what was the joke oh let me

00:49:12.260 i'll send you you can watch it you can watch it really quick hold on let me send you a link because

00:49:16.860 it's it's funny it's cute okay go to whatsapp you should be obsessed with traveling not just the

00:49:24.040 destination but the experience of getting there when you travel with us you'll feel warm you'll feel

00:49:30.040 welcomed and you'll feel watched because every seat comes with the peace of mind of knowing someone

00:49:36.260 is following you following you with two planes this is what you can expect when you fly with

00:49:42.480 at egyptian air we definitely never mix up our time zones flight numbers or flight time we don't know

00:49:52.240 every journey is your personal business after all your personal business is our business is our motto

00:49:59.340 egyptian air wherever you travel we will follow

00:50:03.380 simone what is it's a good troll even we just i wish i lived in this world of trolling candace owens

00:50:12.460 we don't have crazy people in our world well we'll get there but here's i would i also need to point

00:50:18.280 out that candace owens actively feeds into this so she made a post recently where she said

00:50:26.680 question for conspiracy theorists in quotes only what's the real reason the deep state is suddenly

00:50:33.340 obsessed with seizing greenland so she actively calls out conspiracy theorists in scare quotes

00:50:40.220 and asks them to share theories with her so there is there is

00:50:45.000 i don't have a good conspiracy theory on this one yet i'm gonna crowdsource give me some give me some

00:50:51.340 material guys and they didn't even have to pay 20 a month for that wow i mean like this is this is

00:50:56.420 the hack if you really want to feed into the candace owens and have her listen to you but not pay

00:51:00.400 20 to feed her conspiracies about us i loved hearing on joe rogan that i'm a vampire and so well and

00:51:06.060 actually she she's she said that she was really enjoying listening to a podcast i think associated with

00:51:13.900 kurt metzker so anyway let's get to what flavor of psychosis does candace owens have so in favor of 1.00

00:51:22.100 ai psychosis 2025 was the first year ai psychosis really arose that is also when candace owens got

00:51:28.960 really big and when all of these these conspiracy theories i just shared with you went crazy all of

00:51:35.680 these really got big in 2025 at around the same time that ai psychosis got big however owens was

00:51:43.600 known for being a conspiracy theory from 2018 onward so i think if anything the ai psychosis

00:51:52.240 got worse or made it worse or she got ai psychosis because psychosis which which fed into her

00:51:59.120 i want to talk about the word conspiracy theorist you're using here okay yeah okay here fair because

00:52:04.500 i'll give you i'll give you the context in which she was described as a conspiracy theorist okay great

00:52:08.600 reporting describes her as a pro-trump conspiracy theorist which i mean come on

00:52:13.140 she's just right about this it was right in the right wing media was tied to claims such as 0.68

00:52:17.700 suggesting that mail bombs sent to trump's critics in october 2018 were actually a left-wing false flag

00:52:24.020 uh claim she deleted after the suspect was identified as a trump supporter though to be fair there were tons

00:52:30.400 of both out in the open false flag style attacks like the fact that democratic super democratic supporters

00:52:39.280 supported super PACs donated to primaries of extreme republicans who would then win the primary but

00:52:46.200 then be unelectable in the in the general election like there were absolutely democratic conspiracies so

00:52:53.620 i don't know and then by 2020 she was publicly questioning official covet 19 death figures which

00:52:59.040 everyone was attacking bill gates as a vaccine criminal i don't know um and then everyone was come on she was 0.73

00:53:05.380 part of a broader anti-vaccine pandemic related conspiracy rhetoric this is only the case that

00:53:10.620 is ai psychosis because all of this stuff is is conspiracy fashioning okay this is these are actual

00:53:16.680 conspiracies a conspiracy spotter all right they're the difference between being a conspiracy oh versus

00:53:21.660 generator you're right because now she's generating really novel interesting stuff yeah so okay with this

00:53:27.620 stuff i remember there was a vanity fair pace that came out recently and they tried to like attack a bunch

00:53:31.460 of the trump people and it was like jd dance to the conspiracy theorists and i'm like oh based right

00:53:36.040 like that's pretty cool right like because when i hear that i think oh he's like questioning stats

00:53:40.500 around like covid or something like that right like yeah i don't never really jump to the time

00:53:45.600 travelers rfk's confirmation hearing where they're like well but you're how do you answer the the claims

00:53:50.800 that you're a conspiracy theorist and he's like well which conspiracy theory are we talking about then

00:53:54.660 this one because it turned out to be true this one because it turned out to be true it's just like

00:53:59.240 oh damn yeah like what it means to be a conspiracy theorist now is very different from what it meant

00:54:07.760 before there were genuine rampant conspiracies all around us so i touche but in favor of the fan

00:54:15.700 driven psychosis then candace got big because of charlie kirk's assassination i will i'll give you a

00:54:22.380 i'm gonna send you the you can basically see in 2025 her follower count just went completely 0.88

00:54:31.280 off so she's got no reason to tone it down at this point yeah like she she is being rewarded

00:54:37.200 for her conspiracy theories click on the graph that i sent you you can see it just goes like as soon as

00:54:44.380 she goes off the reservation she it gets very lucrative literally no it was like it was like leveling

00:54:50.120 off okay at around like 1.5 million right and then in one year it jumps to like 5.5 million yeah

00:54:58.480 like let's let's talk if you are say a therapist trying to or a family or someone trying to intervene

00:55:05.320 in someone's existing tendency toward psychosis the last thing you want to do is heavily reward it

00:55:14.000 both in terms of fan feedback and in terms of money but what's happening with her is you get this

00:55:20.840 skinneristic instant cha-ching plus oh my god you're amazing every time she comes up with some new 0.94

00:55:27.420 delusion so i do think that the fan feedback so quickly do you know how quickly my brain would fry

00:55:34.360 if if you guys loved every and i do come up with a lot of good if you monetarily loved i don't we're on

00:55:40.180 patreon that's going to come out soon that i filmed today but i want to put this one live tomorrow but

00:55:46.500 the one that we filmed today is why muslims never win wars of conquest after like 200 years of 1.00

00:55:52.460 muhammad's death and it's weird like when you when you go into the data in it it's weird and it is very

00:55:57.580 conspiratorial is it as weird as is is macron's wife being a man i think we argue that prejudice is

00:56:05.240 good and it's why the the early i mean that's that's classic base camp bread and butter give us

00:56:11.700 time though i mean candace was doing this longer than we have been doing we have definitely gotten

00:56:15.580 crazier as time has gone on i'll give you that much like our fans when we did the episode saying

00:56:20.620 that parasites are likely augmenting people's arousal pathways and thus their sexual identities

00:56:26.160 yeah yeah give it because that's pretty deep republicans toxoplasmosis is making like giving

00:56:32.860 people certain fetishes and stuff yeah and people were like because you know what basically people

00:56:38.120 hear from that is being gay is contagious right and so they or alternate sexual profiles are contagious 1.00

00:56:46.480 and then they're like they'll be talking about demons next like they're like they're good they're

00:56:51.380 getting there and i never our fans who say this love it our fans love the deeper our conspiracies go

00:56:59.460 i never get a hey malcolm step back from the ledge there like yeah yeah if that was accompanied with

00:57:06.200 a bunch of paid subscriptions we'd probably feed into a more i'm not asking am i asking for that i don't

00:57:12.640 we need money it's very cool can you see how cold it is in here right now i'm just saying we're cold

00:57:19.200 oh but in favor of normal psychosis in favor of normal psychosis i actually do think that there

00:57:27.120 is something to this there is no reliable public evidence that candace owens has any sort of family

00:57:34.540 history of psychosis or schizophrenia and she's certainly not discussed any family history here

00:57:39.880 there's no like critical biological news sources on this so i there's no like oh well she comes from

00:57:46.480 her family with this kind of problem however like jordan peterson has talked about his family having all

00:57:51.060 the sorts of you know health problems that he then associates with so i'm just saying like there are

00:57:54.980 other people who talk about these things candace owens doesn't talk about this however she does seem 0.60

00:58:00.000 to have this general tendency to think in a schizo manner that stems back even to her early career 0.58

00:58:05.960 before you could have ai or fan-based psychosis because in 2016 during her whole soul autopsy her like 0.87

00:58:14.020 doxing what you remember her like first business venture was basically a doxing website for doxing other 0.68

00:58:20.400 people yeah social autopsy was supposed to be like this it it was there was her entry to the gamer gate 0.72

00:58:27.720 circles where she she blamed progressive gamers in the left for doxing her despite her like basically

00:58:34.200 very scant evidence and in this case she basically had this very conspiratorial like they're out to get

00:58:42.260 me mindset about being doxed and being persecuted and i think from as long as there's sort of a

00:58:50.380 public record of her there's a record of her thinking that people are out to get her and that

00:58:55.500 there are conspiracies against her so i think it is part of her general mindset and so what i think we

00:59:01.260 have with the psychosis maxing of candace owens is a perfect storm of someone who just by personality

00:59:08.900 be it schizo or not tends to view things conspiratorially and also tends to believe people

00:59:16.380 have it out for her personally then being subject to ai driven psychosis at the same time she is

00:59:25.220 subject to fan driven psychosis you get this really powerful result and that is why suddenly there's

00:59:34.080 stories of charlie kirk going to the x-men style i think that we have evidence you have shared with me

00:59:40.220 what i found to be very credible evidence of ai psychosis specifically the type of conspiracy that

00:59:45.740 she was building where she was going through i think it was like random strings of letters tied to

00:59:51.040 like call signs on yeah yeah yeah yeah and connecting them with like famous events from history and it was

00:59:57.200 not the type of connection that a human could easily make but it's the type of connection you could force

01:00:02.640 an ai to make like but also like the the frankist stuff like that's that's deep and i think you have been

01:00:08.780 able to do a lot of religious history research because ai has enabled those searches i i would

01:00:14.640 be shocked if she doesn't use ai to power her research she doesn't have like a big staff or 1.00

01:00:20.400 operation i mean her husband manages the business side of her business i don't think he's that involved

01:00:26.140 in her content and i don't think she has a big staff so i think she's leaning heavily on ai and

01:00:31.740 the the correlation between someone who leans heavily on ai for research and who then asks ai

01:00:37.360 a sort of mirror mirror on the wall situation that drives people nuts is it's you know the risk is

01:00:42.800 higher right you know when you're exposed right but the structure of some of her conspiracy theories 0.95

01:00:48.080 basically a human couldn't structure a conspiracy theory that way not quickly they might be able to

01:00:53.860 you know putting it on the site letting the autist go at it for a few months and then come back and

01:00:59.040 been like well they found because it wasn't like exact it was like okay there was this call sign

01:01:05.520 which rep was like this camp in world war ii and there was this call sign which was this secret

01:01:11.140 military group yeah like the napoleonic wars and there was this call sign and it was like those are

01:01:16.400 really not normal connections yeah only ai could easily and fastly do that at scale otherwise yeah

01:01:22.620 you have to wait for autists to churn and churn and churn that's yeah that's fair although i think 1.00

01:01:28.460 again it's even more super powered by the fact that you do have all these people feeding her stuff and 0.76

01:01:34.040 are actively asking people to feed her stuff so it's it's top minds i'm asking you guys if we have

01:01:40.040 any people in the candace owens get her on our conspiracy theories okay we've got a lot of good

01:01:45.080 ones here we got a lot of good ones could be synergistic yeah but i mean unless we have to we have

01:01:51.500 to plausibly be implicated in charlie kirk's murder because that is ultimately the big cash cow like that is

01:01:56.760 the thing all these things even the crons keep in mind you know like everything except for dinosaurs in the

01:02:03.100 moon landing being fake and gay are pretty much connected in some way to charlie kirk it all comes

01:02:08.880 back to charlie kirk i mean his his martyrdom was her her skyrocketing to fame and she is very shameful

01:02:17.900 as it is it's really yeah it is it hurts me to see that part of it it's very i don't like saying

01:02:25.400 cringe but it is if if she's not just crazy she's a very bad person like that's just but see i don't

01:02:34.060 think he means to be i mean i think she genuinely really liked charlie kirk they clearly flirted and

01:02:41.880 had fun and i don't mean like i don't mean to insinuate any bad both were married happily i think

01:02:47.220 they were both very happily married too um i just think that they were playful friends and they liked

01:02:52.940 each other and he was nice to her i mean to be fair i think he was very playful and kind and and

01:02:58.460 charismatic with everyone he worked with which is one reason why he was so successful in his role in

01:03:03.120 a great fundraiser to boot but yeah i think she genuinely cared a lot for him and it drove her

01:03:09.180 pretty nuts to see him but here's the here's the other thing is when you are in in this period of grief

01:03:16.260 and emotional insanity when you lose someone you care a lot about and then everyone rewards you

01:03:24.600 when you go through this one period of your grief where you're like oh it was the jews who did it it was 1.00

01:03:29.160 tp usa it was the french it was ah and then like and then then people feed into that when you're kind of

01:03:35.860 driven crazy by your grief you can do crazy things you know i don't think this was intentional i don't

01:03:40.980 think she was like wow i just think when it's very hard to go against your instincts when you do

01:03:47.840 something and then get immense rewards for it it's it's just classic conditioning dave chapelle has also

01:03:55.140 talked about this but he was saying and i think this is something at play here that it can be very

01:03:59.960 hard for famous people to accept that just a random crazy person can kill one of your friends and

01:04:06.900 this is hard for normal people to accept and so you invent a more larger theory about why and his

01:04:14.000 death was actually part of some bigger conspiracy but it's uniquely hard as chapelle pointed out and

01:04:21.020 i can't easily emphasize with this for whatever reason that random nobodies can just kill you for

01:04:28.380 no reason other than their weird ideological agenda okay yeah i mean i i hear that i think you nailed it on

01:04:35.860 the head what's causing this and i feel like i i i mean you you say i hope she gets better but it's

01:04:42.820 making her money so you know like if she gets better will anyone care what she has to say anymore right

01:04:48.080 like it's a you know that's the thing is she can't really go back now

01:04:52.180 i maybe the way that this can work out the best is she settles her lawsuit with macrons and she

01:05:03.600 becomes the the trend spotter of new emerging conspiracy theories but manages to be the person

01:05:16.240 who separates the the wheat from the chaff and actually surfaces new and good conspiracy theories

01:05:23.440 that are true and credible and that change the way that people you and i know exactly where this goes

01:05:27.780 so what's going to happen is she's going to keep spiraling into crazier and crazier stuff until it's 0.89

01:05:32.060 clear to any mainstream fan base she has that she's actually just a crazy person

01:05:37.100 it's already getting pretty far i mean keep in mind this kind of happened in much slower motion to

01:05:45.280 alex jones where he starts fairly normal and then he gets a little crazier and a little crazier and then

01:05:52.120 he's shouting at the camera and about to lose it but this took like 10 or 20 years for him because

01:05:56.600 he didn't feed into it as quickly she's just gone all in immediately like she's at a point now that's

01:06:02.660 way crazier than alex jones ever got but she's making 250k a month just on patreon as long as she 1.00

01:06:09.560 and her husband save responsibly they can i don't think she's gonna save responsibly simone

01:06:16.120 i'm just saying they can be be financially independent for the rest of their lives and

01:06:20.840 just live off their dividends if she can be financially responsible yeah but i mean look 1.00

01:06:27.580 she's gonna make a million from patreon alone in a quarter 0.99

01:06:32.440 four million a year she'll have eight million in two years that means that just off the invested

01:06:45.180 amount she could have over 20k a month in take-home income i mean some of that will be taxed it's just 1.00

01:06:51.940 that like that i'm i'm i candace save response i mean her husband's managing the business she just

01:07:00.180 she's just going off i i imagine he's the kind of responsible man who's who's quietly banking this

01:07:06.020 and he's like look we'll just have her she'll get a lot of work done after this like yeah like 0.95

01:07:11.280 we will help her after right now let's just rake it in and we'll pick up the pieces and put her 1.00

01:07:17.980 back together as we live quietly on a farm somewhere far away from all of this and offline

01:07:23.560 you know yeah i that is that that is what i'm hoping for her husband in the background just

01:07:29.180 he'll pick up the pieces but right now he's he's doing what he needs to do you know get that bag sir

01:07:34.280 it's true yeah true well you are amazing i love this episode i thought you did an absolutely

01:07:42.000 excellent job of introducing me to all these ideas because i i didn't know that i'm going into this

01:07:45.800 i was delighted to learn them as well and check out reality fabricator if you want to play i'll give

01:07:51.180 you the link to that there's the there's the shareable link scenario where you're you're candace

01:07:56.100 owens but all of the conspiracy theories are true if you want to understand what it's like to live in

01:08:00.120 her world you will know now you can play as her in in her world delightful so i love you malcolm and

01:08:09.560 for dinner we're making mystery curry with green onions peppers and i'm going to put cream in

01:08:14.940 because you wanted cream in your curries right i love that idea yes well and because it's a mystery

01:08:19.320 curry you probably poison sauce and sambal olik added yeah so sambal olik i'm of course going to

01:08:25.900 saute garlic before i put it all in too so okay i love you and actually would you since you're

01:08:31.180 dressed would you mind running and getting the kids i can call stacy right now just so i can

01:08:34.880 yes but you call stacy okay okay i will calling her now i love you oops

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Based Camp - January 20, 2026

Psychosis Maxing With Candace Owens

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