Based Camp - December 20, 2024


Weird Data: Same Sex Attracted Men Not Gay?


Episode Stats


Length

1 hour and 8 minutes

Words per minute

163.85068

Word count

11,301

Sentence count

16

Harmful content

Misogyny

53

sentences flagged

Toxicity

132

sentences flagged

Hate speech

72

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

In this episode, we talk about a new show called My Husband's Not Gay about same-sex attracted men (SSA) and why progressives are losing their mind over it. We also talk about the Mormon church's stance on SSA and why it's a bad thing.

Transcript

Transcript generated with Whisper (turbo).
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 yes you can be same-sex attracted and not gay no and it's not even like a weird cope thing
00:00:07.600 it's just by the statistics it doesn't make sense to categorize everyone who's same-sex attracted
00:00:14.180 as gay because it sort of becomes arbitrary and you'll see this in the statistics for example 0.99
00:00:19.360 while the 30 percent of males and females we surveys who found the feminine form arousing 0.83
00:00:24.120 also found the site of a vagina a turnoff not a single survey participant who found the male 0.94
00:00:29.980 form arousing were simultaneously turned off by penises however 26 percent of men who found the 0.99
00:00:36.180 site of a penis arousing simultaneously found the male form aversive but if you prefer the female 0.99
00:00:43.140 form there's more than a 25 chance like more than a quarter chance you're going to find penises 0.98
00:00:49.520 arousing even if you're a male yeah which is just fascinating like what the is going on here 0.80
00:00:56.260 right like there's there's clearly like a system at play and this is why i love researching this
00:01:02.300 stuff because like sexologists because they're so stuck in this gay straight dichotomy they have
00:01:07.540 missed that there is something more interesting going on your entire life should not be oriented
00:01:13.460 around getting off as easily as possible like it is so weird that for progressives you try to like
00:01:19.560 it's not a good look it doesn't look the way you think it looks
00:01:23.300 there is more to life than what turns you on sure the path is harder but we both mean it through this
00:01:33.540 border you don't have to do a thing
00:01:37.820 this is important what could be more important than sexual arousal patterns richard
00:02:05.560 science would you like to know more hello simone this is gonna be an interesting episode
00:02:15.300 really it was inspired by conversation around a new show called my husband's not gay
00:02:23.720 around this sounds fun yes mormon same-sex attracted men or ssa men who while biologically
00:02:35.220 they're same-sex attracted prefer to live a lifestyle in which they marry a woman and have
00:02:41.780 children in a heterosexual relationship and as you can imagine progressives are losing their mind over
00:02:50.700 this where i saw this was in a a popular youtuber was talking about this called curtis connor who's got
00:02:59.040 around 5.2 million subscribers so the video he did on this has 3.5 million views so you know talk about
00:03:05.300 aspirational for us right my husband's not gay the episode starts with an introduction to jeff and tanya
00:03:11.800 who have been together for nine years and they also have a son together and this is when they hear the
00:03:16.040 term that they use to describe their lifestyle i experience ssa or same-sex attraction not gay ssa
00:03:23.840 all i notice first a beautiful man walking down the street or a beautiful woman walking down the street
00:03:28.260 i'll notice the beautiful man nine times out of ten okay someone who is attracted to men
00:03:34.580 thinks about men wants to be with men but also wants to be in a hetero relationship somebody that is
00:03:41.040 attracted to the same sex but wants to be in a heterosexual relationship not gay ssa not gay ssa 0.80
00:03:48.120 that's the new no homo but obviously you know he's progressive he made a point of whining about 1.00
00:03:52.880 trump in it and he was like these people shouldn't basically culturally be allowed to do this oh how
00:04:00.260 dare you express your sexuality however you please yeah no it's really interesting to me that progressives
00:04:07.900 are so anti-choice when it comes with individual sexuality where they're like if you have this arousal
00:04:15.980 pattern you have to it's funny that the way that he speaks about mormons is exactly the way i feel
00:04:23.800 about ultra progressives and their extreme limitations in terms of the types of sexual
00:04:28.600 choices they let people live out because being aroused by men this was not this guy's choice what
00:04:35.080 is his choice is who he chooses to marry and how he chooses to live his life yeah super sad the fact 0.99
00:04:40.780 there's only one acceptable expression of of love in a religion is pretty fucked up to be honest you're 0.97
00:04:47.600 like that's not really a religion you want to be a part of but you know what do i know only selectively 0.98
00:04:53.880 because there are some sexual arousal patterns that they still do not allow both with cause and
00:05:00.100 without oh they're they're they're coming around i'll tell you they're coming around on this map stuff
00:05:04.340 this minor attracted person stuff they're coming around yes however in the uk it's not okay to be
00:05:15.160 into like bdsm right you know you have to remove any oh yeah you're not allowed to be into some people
00:05:19.920 being hurt and yeah so even if it's clearly consensual and you created it yourself or if it's
00:05:26.660 clearly consensual and animated like cartoon like no real people illegal in the uk it has been for like
00:05:32.660 over a decade at this point this this was really scary living in the uk because i was like if i go
00:05:39.220 to court like even if it's fairly tame stuff if i go to court over pornography that's gonna really
00:05:43.860 mess up my life it it doesn't look good on one's record at all yeah right yeah but anyway the the
00:05:50.820 point here being is that it is interesting to me that the progressive option here is to say oh you're a
00:05:57.920 same-sex attractive catholic and you decide to join the priesthood which by the way right so depending on
00:06:02.500 the statistics you're looking around on 50 of catholic priests are same-sex attracted which is 0.95
00:06:06.800 just a a fucking awesome cultural solution by the way yeah you're a culture that says you are not 0.98
00:06:13.760 allowed to have same-sex relationships but if you happen to be same-sex attracted we have an 0.98
00:06:19.720 institution for you where you can basically be an ethically source eunuch so we don't need to worry 0.99
00:06:26.220 about you being part of the religious hierarchy accidentally having kids and then you showing
00:06:32.520 napotism towards those kids and we talk about this a lot more in some of our other content around this
00:06:37.800 but it seems like a good solution until you realize yeah but might that create like a weird thing
00:06:44.920 around how they relate to young people under their care and then you're like oh yes i can see why the
00:06:51.040 bible warns against allowing people to have leadership positions in the church if they are
00:06:56.140 unmarried i love it when people are like but malcolm you're removing these people's choices and i'm like
00:07:01.800 no you're removing their choices they can choose to not be a catholic priest they can choose to not be a
00:07:08.400 catholic they can choose to leave the mormon faith these things are all optional no one is holding a gun to
00:07:14.060 their head you're the one thing i disapprove of their choice to continue to stay in the mormon church
00:07:19.800 and live a mormon lifestyle if they are aroused by men i always love when i point out i'm like why 0.97
00:07:24.740 is it that some arousal patterns mandate that you live a certain lifestyle like live as a gay person
00:07:31.140 and there's other arousal patterns which seem just as biologically ingrained in people just as inborn
00:07:37.100 when you look at the data where you would say you should never engage with that no matter whatever
00:07:41.400 and they'll say okay okay okay it becomes mandated that you live that your life that way if it doesn't
00:07:47.780 cause any negative social externalities and it doesn't hurt anyone and i'm like uh-huh really 0.88
00:07:53.060 interesting so then you must have been super homophobic and anti-gay during the aids epidemic 0.92
00:07:58.420 right because there was a reason why a lot of religions banned this you know like it it led to an
00:08:03.480 extreme spread of disease that has killed an estimated 42.3 million people since its beginning
00:08:09.800 and in its early days spread faster and further because gay sex was beginning to become socially 0.98
00:08:17.480 normalized now it doesn't only spread through gay sex but you're basically lying if you're saying 0.94
00:08:22.920 that gay sex didn't contribute to the spread and the scope of the aids epidemic as we can see by its 0.85
00:08:29.080 decimation of the gay community now obviously the technology is different and you can have a different 0.99
00:08:34.200 stance on it but i'm asking during the aids epidemic if that's the stance you're holding
00:08:37.620 and you're like no no no no see there's a special carve out for it during the aids epidemic and it's
00:08:42.240 like why because you have elevated this one form of arousal as holding some form of like additional
00:08:49.400 religious significance that you're not allowed to question but before we go further here what we're
00:08:54.980 going to go into is i would actually argue from the sexuality statistics is yes you can be same
00:09:02.100 sex attracted and not gay no and it's not even like a weird cope thing it's just by the statistics it
00:09:10.040 doesn't make sense to categorize everyone who's same-sex attracted as gay because it sort of becomes
00:09:17.120 arbitrary and you'll see this at the statistics i mean it sound insane when i'm saying it and i should
00:09:21.340 note i'm saying this is a person who isn't even a little bit same-sex attracted i remember i had a lot
00:09:26.580 of gay friends growing up and i had a long conversation with a roommate who later came out
00:09:32.860 as gay and he didn't understand why i would only watch well funnily gay porn i.e lesbian porn and i was 0.68
00:09:41.160 like i just like cannot get aroused if there is a male anywhere near a pornographic scene that i'm 0.86
00:09:49.000 looking at and that makes sense from an evolutionary perspective it does it does i i would imagine
00:09:55.020 intuitively to me it seems like if you're what what was the word that was seen as various
00:09:59.060 uh offensive super straight if you're like if you were yeah if you were turned off by the sight of a 0.99
00:10:05.940 penis you're not going to want to see dicks in your porn actually interesting simone some of the guys 0.99
00:10:13.400 who fall into this category and you'll see this in the statistics we're about to go over are not 1.00
00:10:18.040 disgusted by the sight of a penis they're disgusted by the sight of a male form this is why 0.99
00:10:23.120 fuda porn is so common in the hentai category okay wait wait so the the i'm definitely straight men 0.99
00:10:29.860 are attracted to penises but not attracted to the male form well they're not necessarily disgusted by 0.99
00:10:35.820 penises so they are okay with two women having sex if one of those women this is what fuda porn is for 1.00
00:10:43.600 people who aren't aware has a penis because it allows them to even by removing males from their 1.00
00:10:50.080 porn in this entirely fantasy context see piv penis and vagina sex with porn but have no man 1.00
00:10:58.180 in that scene and actually when we did the survey on this and we asked men who were predominantly into 0.99
00:11:06.980 food of porn if they saw these as trans women they do not most men at least in terms of their arousal 0.53
00:11:15.180 patterns i'll see a trans woman as a man even if they otherwise present very femininely which is i 0.84
00:11:23.280 think really interesting but that is fascinating and i should clarify here that this is not what i am
00:11:28.200 into i will let it slip near the end of this discussion if you end up watching the whole video
00:11:33.000 what i am into though but it is really important to be asking these questions why are certain things
00:11:40.240 being seen in pornography for example why is food a pornography common and you can say well why is it
00:11:45.860 useful to understand something like this about human arousal patterns here's why because as soon as you
00:11:52.300 understand this you can understand that many of the men who become convinced they're trans may actually
00:11:58.580 just have a disgust reaction to other men and so when they're looking at pornography or something like 0.88
00:12:06.040 that they have this disgust reaction whenever they see men or when they look at a penis they might have a 0.98
00:12:11.440 disgust reaction to a penis and they look at their male form in a mirror and they go oh this is disgusting 0.95
00:12:17.540 because evolution didn't have us evolve around mirrors it never needed to not code to our own bodies to find 0.98
00:12:26.360 our own bodies as gross looking and they say oh i must not like being a man when in reality it's no for
00:12:34.500 evolutionary reasons you didn't want to be sexually engaging in an environment where other men were 0.50
00:12:42.120 present and if you are for example a young autistic person whose brain isn't fully developed you realize
00:12:49.300 oh i am super disgusted by the sight of men even even when that man is myself therefore in this ultra
00:12:56.620 categorizer mindset i must actually be a woman when that's not what's happening at all it's just a normal
00:13:01.400 part of male sexuality and so because i took the time to dive into the world of pornography and look
00:13:06.720 at what types of pornography are common and think about why these types of pornography might be common
00:13:10.540 i now have additional information on sexuality so that when i am teaching my kids about their sexuality
00:13:17.460 and what they might expect from it i can inform them about this potential pitfall and perhaps prevent
00:13:25.260 one of them who might otherwise have been convinced to transition that no this is just a normal part of male sexuality
00:13:31.780 this is also why it's really important that we as i've said in other videos don't go around telling young girls
00:13:36.980 that it's super weird for a girl to be in to scenarios where they are hurt or subjugated by a male
00:13:46.040 because it turns out that most girls are into that and so if you teach your daughters that because you didn't take time 1.00
00:13:53.080 to actually look into human sexuality then they're going to grow up thinking they're a sexual deviant
00:13:57.960 which makes it much easier for them to engage in other or additional forms of sexual deviancy
00:14:04.060 because they're like well the cat's already out of the bag on that one so it matters to engage with
00:14:08.520 this information let's do it all right so and i'm just going to be quoting from the pragmatist
00:14:13.100 guide to sexuality one of the books we wrote and which we did big series of surveys for i need to break this
00:14:18.860 down here so what we are arguing in this particular subsection is that the arousal pattern does not
00:14:25.940 seem cued to males and females it seems more cued to primary and secondary sex characteristics
00:14:32.700 so if you're not sure what primary and secondary sex characteristics are primary sex characteristics 0.98
00:14:38.460 are the sex characteristics which are used directly in reproduction so this would be a penis 0.87
00:14:44.860 or a vagina secondary sex characteristics are things cued to things other than direct reproduction
00:14:52.100 so this would be um what are the words i'm looking for here like a masculine or feminine form
00:14:59.120 a masculine or feminine voice masculine or like feet hands vocal tone all sorts of of general clues or themes 0.60
00:15:11.000 it's almost like if if if a penis or a vagina they're the language the secondary sexual characteristics are the accent
00:15:22.060 the lilt the tonality the music of the of the language yes the point here being is that it turns out that it's 0.80
00:15:30.040 actually fairly frequent that an individual will find one particular gender's secondary sex characteristics
00:15:39.420 arousing or repulsive and be a have an inverse arousal or repulsion to the primary sex characteristics
00:15:48.400 in other words it's like each person gets several rolls of the dice and most people's understanding of
00:15:54.460 sexuality is you get one roll of the dice you're into men or you're into women or you're into both like
00:16:00.540 the dice like it's like hang it's like you know it fell on a corner and it won't fall one way or the other
00:16:05.800 what what really is happening is you're getting several rolls of the dice you get to roll on 0.98
00:16:10.540 vaginas you get to roll on penises you get to roll on butts you get to roll on feet you get to roll 1.00
00:16:14.800 on shapes you get to roll on hits and like you're getting all these things well no no what i'm 0.92
00:16:18.720 arguing is you're not getting several rolls of the dice is you're getting two rolls of the dice
00:16:22.840 it's what gender primary sex characteristics do you want like what gender secondary sex characteristics
00:16:29.340 do you like so it's just so we're every all day so basically all primary and all secondary were
00:16:34.880 correlated in the research generally correlated and bundled together i thought they were unbundled
00:16:39.440 but no they're not since we've done this okay okay primary and secondary sex characteristics
00:16:44.100 are heavily bundled in our data which is oh i'm thinking about just random arousal things you
00:16:50.000 know yeah that's not what this is this is yeah you know i'm thinking about like pain shaming
00:16:56.720 dominance those are not unbundled by the way those appear in bundled packages as well but we'll get
00:17:04.200 into that in a separate video okay before we go further we have to note here about our sexual
00:17:10.020 theory that we lay out in the practice guide to sexuality i won't go that far into it but we
00:17:14.440 argue that sexuality is not a spectrum from disinterest to arousal it is a spectrum from
00:17:22.140 arousal to disgust with disinterest in the middle and that the arous the disgust feeling is literally
00:17:29.960 operating off of the arousal system with a negative modifier attached to it or vice versa the two
00:17:35.780 emotions are exact inverts of each other when you are aroused you look at something longer you typically
00:17:41.660 breathe inwards your pupils typically dilate when you are disgusted by something you typically look
00:17:46.840 away from it you typically hold your nose or attempt to not breathe and your pupils contract
00:17:52.320 you try to get away from it if you're disgusted you try to interact with it more of your arouse
00:17:56.540 it is the same system and the data supports this in that when the system breaks you are much more
00:18:04.500 likely to be aroused by something that most people find disgusting or disgusted by something that most
00:18:09.360 people find arousing than random like you for example people don't find fire disgusting or arousing but
00:18:14.560 many people have a strong emotional reaction to fire or heights uh fetishes around fire or heights are
00:18:20.380 incredibly rare it's not any strong naturally pre-evolved emotion but arousal to creepy crawlers
00:18:26.540 like having insects poured on your face that's actually a pretty common fetish arousal to the feces
00:18:31.900 urine stuff like that actually pretty common so things that cause natural disgust are actually pretty
00:18:37.820 common to create fetishes because you're basically getting the multiply by negative mixed up or multiply
00:18:44.460 by positive mixed up at some point in the developmental process or genetic process all right so to what
00:18:50.480 we're saying here our study yielded some supporting evidence for this it seems to be very common for
00:18:56.480 an individual to find female primary sex characteristics aversive but female secondary
00:19:01.000 sex characteristics arousing i.e. to find the feminine form arousing but a vagina gross our survey study 0.99
00:19:07.040 showed that 30 percent of males and 32 percent of females who find the female form arousing find 0.99
00:19:12.460 vaginas aversive that is astronomically high that's much bigger than the reported gay population which 1.00
00:19:19.740 i think shows that this is just a better description of what's going on than gay or straight our research
00:19:25.040 also suggests that in the average person the secondary sex characteristic detecting system
00:19:30.400 has a much higher average quote-unquote volume than the system detecting primary sex characteristics
00:19:35.900 for example the average guy will derive more arousal from the feminine form
00:19:40.480 than they will from the vagina from our survey 89 percent of men rate the female form at the highest level of
00:19:48.760 arousal generation while only 71 percent rate the vagina the same way we find it amusingly ironic that the 0.98
00:19:55.720 organs used explicitly for reproduction are less cause less arousal than secondary sex characteristics
00:20:03.480 we developed these two theories before running our survey while there are ways we can twist our data to
00:20:11.160 fit them as we did above we must be honest and admit that our data really suggests that something a little
00:20:16.520 more complicated is going on so i was wrong when i told simone earlier that they are totally bundled they
00:20:22.920 are loosely bundled in very weird ways which we'll get into in a second for example while the 30 percent of
00:20:29.000 males and females we surveyed who found the feminine form arousing also found the site of a vagina a 0.97
00:20:34.360 turnoff not a single survey participant who found the male form arousing were simultaneously turned 0.99
00:20:40.360 off by penises not a single participant who found the male form arousing were turned off by penises 0.99
00:20:48.360 however 26 percent of men who found the site of a penis arousing simultaneously found the male form aversive 0.99
00:20:56.120 so there's something weird going on with penises and vaginas specifically if you find the male form 0.98
00:21:06.680 arousing you are always going to find penises arousing but if you prefer the female form there's more 0.99
00:21:14.360 than a 25 percent chance like more than a quarter chance you're going to find penises arousing even if you're 0.99
00:21:20.680 a male yeah which is just fascinating like what the is going on here right like there's there's clearly 0.84
00:21:28.200 like a system at play and this is why i love researching this stuff because like sexologists
00:21:33.880 because they're so stuck in this gay straight dichotomy they have missed that there is something
00:21:38.600 more interesting going on yeah i it is so curious and i i'm so glad that ayla for example is looking more
00:21:46.600 into this you know there are actually people out there really diving deep with great great sample
00:21:53.720 sizes too and before i go further this also i think shows how narrow and religious the dichotomy of gay
00:22:02.280 straight is as an identification and it's really an identity identification no different from a religious 0.73
00:22:07.960 identity identification and i have no trouble with these mormon men who are like yeah i'm same
00:22:13.160 sex attractive but i choose not to live that lifestyle why is that such a problem that these
00:22:17.560 people are doing that like it's genuinely harder in a number of ways if you want to have a lot of kids
00:22:24.600 they're like oh you can have a lot of kids you're in a same-sex relationship not and really it's
00:22:29.960 extremely expensive well if you're a woman in a same-sex relationship you get double power 0.52
00:22:36.280 you've got extra if you're a man it's extremely extremely it is it is yeah yeah yeah yeah we we
00:22:46.120 one of our kids godparents are two gay men and they've been trying to find a surrogate to work with
00:22:51.880 them for half a decade at this point or something yeah getting the right circuit match getting egg donors
00:22:59.880 creating embryos this is a an often heartbreaking incredibly frustrating and very expensive process
00:23:07.000 and it's tough and i can totally see why someone who is
00:23:11.480 prenatalist and broadly same-sex attracted but i think there's also this issue of
00:23:19.080 it's it's weird that we would question people's chosen relationship formation when there are such
00:23:26.680 things as political lesbians for example like they're not questioned the same way 0.68
00:23:31.960 yeah you're right so for people who don't know what a political lesbian is this was a phenomenon 1.00
00:23:35.880 that was common especially on tumblr and within progressive circles where women would say i just
00:23:39.560 hate men so much i will force myself to be lesbian which is actually pretty easy for women if you look
00:23:43.880 at the data because women's predominant arousal patterns are not tied to the gender of the partner 0.93
00:23:49.320 they are tied to dominance and submission but continue yeah so the that they're not controversial
00:23:56.600 but it is seen as incredibly taboo or hypocritical for a same-sex attracted man to marry a woman like
00:24:05.240 that seems weird you know there there are many many many even more logical reasons for a same-sex
00:24:11.080 attracted man to do that not just religion but also yeah i want to have kids or it's just you know
00:24:15.880 it well progressives treat this as like a sacred thing it's a sacred caste system for them that's what i
00:24:21.960 think is going on here right like the urban monoculture sees gays that identify and take on a gay lifestyle 0.92
00:24:28.680 as a deserving upper class and they just cannot understand why anyone wouldn't want this designation
00:24:35.160 because it made their actual goals in life not arousal easier right and they can be like why
00:24:41.160 don't they just adopt well as one person said on our survey our studies when they learned that of
00:24:47.320 adoptees because we mentioned this and you have a face that's become like a meme in the community
00:24:52.920 one percent of adoptees whose biological parents had three or more offenses were responsible for
00:24:59.480 30 percent of convictions among adoptees the one percent of adoptees whose parents had three or
00:25:06.680 more convictions were responsible for 30 of the offenses among adoptees you were like oh when you heard
00:25:13.960 this which is the the the genetics that are correlated with the type of person who you might
00:25:22.040 adopt are going to play out in in their childhood and in their adulthood and it could make it it could
00:25:29.000 provide a good reason why somebody might be like i really want to have genetically my own kids i really
00:25:33.480 want to choose who their parents are yeah and i get that and i think that you denying someone the right
00:25:39.480 to do that when you as a heterosexual male for example that's just natural for you to be able
00:25:45.080 to do that for free and you're like oh well they should just stomach that it's like why should they
00:25:52.920 have to stomach that roll of the dice right like they should be able to have kids the way that they 1.00
00:25:57.560 want to have kids yeah well that we seem to in our society force some forms of sexual attraction like
00:26:06.520 some forms of sexual attraction mean ah okay this means that you now have this identity and you're
00:26:12.360 part of this community and you need to you need to adopt these accents and have these idols and that
00:26:18.680 is going to be your life now um whereas there are other ones where it's like oh that's your arousal
00:26:23.400 pattern okay well never tell anyone suppress it this is evil you are evil for holding this whatever you do
00:26:30.840 do do not tell anyone about this don't do it don't think about it like suppress it you know turn it
00:26:37.960 this is why in our culture we've actually taken a pretty and i think we'll get to more stats in a
00:26:42.920 second but i think the solution for prenatalism the correct solution to get through this particular
00:26:49.400 crucible is to completely disintermediate arousal and childbearing and relationship structure that's the
00:26:57.400 thing that's the other thing i wanted to bring up is that the idea that we are building marriages
00:27:03.240 lifelong partnerships that are really much more about aligned values and and complementary skill sets
00:27:12.120 on sexual attraction and not the 99.9 of the other things that you need to make your lifelong
00:27:20.600 partnership work is so insane to me and it's not it's not just insane it's gross well it is both yeah
00:27:28.600 it's gross and and and and very illogical and but it also removes the urban monoculture's biggest hook
00:27:37.160 if if you can tell your kids i don't care what porn you're into what fan fictions you're into what shipping 0.88
00:27:45.480 you're into
00:28:01.720 i know that they are siblings but i think there's something more
00:28:05.480 if she were dating that guy they'd be banging i'm sure a princess can't really be that bad 1.00
00:28:11.080 you're on the cannon ground i'm up in crack ship space let's start a shipping war don't care if i 1.00
00:28:19.160 get hate don't like my bearings well then you can hit the bricks this is my otp i'll go down with this
00:28:27.640 all i care about is the way that you choose to live your life when you destigmatize arousal patterns
00:28:35.800 and you say your arousal patterns are accepted whatever they are so long as you do not act on
00:28:44.280 them and you can live a virtuous life despite whatever arousal patterns you have i think that
00:28:50.440 that removes one of the major hooks the left can use to get into your kids yeah and pull them out of 0.83
00:28:55.800 society yeah and if you want to and you watch our video on masturbation where we talk more about 0.88
00:29:00.280 this if you want to remove anything that's anti-biblical in this you can just say okay well then 0.92
00:29:05.000 only porn that is drawn like hentai or something like that or ai generated because then you're not
00:29:10.200 looking at a woman other than your wife was lost and by the way there is nothing in the bible about 0.96
00:29:14.760 women not masturbating um there is nothing in the bible about hentai i checked you have nothing 0.76
00:29:22.120 in the bible hentai not there so you know 0.89
00:29:27.880 by the way the the people use the story of onan to try to argue that god is against masturbation is like
00:29:34.840 psychotic and disgusting if you are not familiar with this story there is a law in jewish tradition 0.95
00:29:41.240 that you are supposed to if somebody dies their closest genetic relative their sibling is supposed 0.81
00:29:47.960 to sleep with their wife to get them pregnant so that that family's line can continue which is actually 0.83
00:29:54.360 really important to that woman because a single woman without any kids in this society was quite 1.00
00:29:58.520 difficult and so this guy was commanded to sleep with his dead brother's wife to give that guy a
00:30:04.120 continuing legacy but rather than raising a kid he would sleep with the wife it appears he would 0.99
00:30:10.120 actually have sex with her use her as a oni hole but then come outside of her to ensure she didn't get 1.00
00:30:16.680 pregnant this had nothing to do with masturbation it had to do with somebody psychotically using his 1.00
00:30:24.120 brother's wife as an oni hole and not getting her pregnant and not allowing his brother to have the 1.00
00:30:30.520 legacy that he was legally and religiously bound to do well i would note and as you pointed out the
00:30:37.000 period where the type of porn that the bible warns against is actually fairly a short period where you
00:30:42.520 could have been looking at a picture of a real woman and not a drawn or ai generated woman you're
00:30:47.560 looking at a period of maybe like 80 years where that maybe not even widely available maybe 30 years
00:30:53.960 in all of human history which is pretty wild there and again if you want to see our video
00:30:58.600 on the bible and masturbation you can watch it if you've been told that the bible says masturbation
00:31:02.520 is bad that's like a lie like it's a big lie if you actually the bible even talks about like
00:31:08.360 emissions and categorizes them and the emissions associated with masturbation are considered the
00:31:13.480 same type of negative as having a period wait how many categories of emissions are there there
00:31:18.120 must be the overnight ones that i know there's there's diseased emissions which create a longer
00:31:24.840 actually the bible interestingly categorizes pent-up emissions so like people who haven't
00:31:30.680 masturbated in a long time it's having a uniquely like bad type of emission that requires additional
00:31:37.240 ablutions yeah volutions and cleansing and stuff like that this is the old testament stuff that may not
00:31:42.680 be more mighty okay wow but basically people made up a bunch of rules about sexuality and then claim
00:31:49.000 they were in the bible when they're not in the bible okay okay anyway continuum what's more are 0.92
00:31:54.040 assumptions and and again people can say well doesn't the bible say all this stuff around gay sex no 0.98
00:32:01.080 it says stuff around you participating in gay sex you shall not sleep with a man as you would a woman 1.00
00:32:07.800 it doesn't say you can't check off to gay porn specifically here i'm referring to gay porn that is 0.99
00:32:13.560 drawn or ai generated and doesn't use real people it says that you shouldn't sleep with a man as you would 1.00
00:32:19.320 a woman that's two totally different things if one of my kids was like oh i want to jack off to gay 1.00
00:32:26.600 porn i'm like well great the bible says nothing about that just don't marry a guy 0.99
00:32:31.080 now this is what i would recommend would i be okay if they really wanted to marry a guy i mean 0.97
00:32:35.560 it depends on the technology we have in that period et cetera et cetera et cetera but i think that the
00:32:39.720 number one thing is is is having kids passing their culture on to the next generation i don't think it's
00:32:44.120 it's not going to be a problem to marry dude i'm i'm super okay with guys marrying guys especially like
00:32:49.560 if they find some some way to have a lot of kids it's more and honestly we're artificial moon
00:32:57.880 technology is coming along i think it's going to be okay for our any of our sons who
00:33:03.320 are thusly inclined but i'm just saying hold on we got to go on with the statistics we're getting
00:33:09.560 to what were you going to say well there there are worlds and scenarios in which it would make more
00:33:16.120 sense even for two straight men to couple up and raise a family together than it is to for straight men
00:33:21.880 to pair off with women like there i could even see society getting so toxic and so fractured whereby 1.00
00:33:29.800 straight men just have to swear off women entirely because they've gone completely off the deep end 0.79
00:33:34.200 on average you know like there's just there is a world in which it makes sense to have a dual income
00:33:40.440 male family it's just i don't know there i feel like there also have been a lot of gay power couples
00:33:45.480 you know who just they're both economically and and um career-wise very successful i just i'm just
00:33:52.040 arguing that there is probably a world not a world far from our timeline in which it would be
00:34:00.360 from a fertility standpoint advantageous for two straight men to enter a lifelong partnership to raise
00:34:07.720 children successfully okay well and and you know you mentioned that but like even think about the
00:34:12.360 mig top community this is what i mean about disintermediating sexuality from child rearing
00:34:16.600 you could have two like ultra chad alphas deciding to live together and raise kids together but 0.98
00:34:22.280 fucking you're describing you're describing and you're taking his brother right i i basically am there but 0.99
00:34:27.640 the point that i'm making is this doesn't have to be like gay it could actually be the opposite of 0.99
00:34:33.080 gay if you're doing this and you're taking this brother i mean you should sleep around a ton while you are 0.99
00:34:38.680 raising kids with someone who you respect who you know isn't gonna the point being is there are 0.86
00:34:42.920 alternate ways of structuring things that are they can work they're not what we've chosen but that
00:34:49.480 isn't to say that they can't work so anyway to keep going here what's more our assumption that secondary
00:34:55.160 sex characteristics are all operating on the same sex system may be wrong as 15 of women who reported
00:35:02.280 to find the female form arousing in our surveys also reported to see breasts as an active turnoff
00:35:08.360 and yet we don't see this happening in males it would seem that humans may have dozens of independent
00:35:13.800 arousal systems which may or may not cloister to what you were saying here weirder still some of the
00:35:18.520 arousal systems seem to cloister in only one gender for example in men arousal from the female
00:35:23.960 form and breasts are tied together but in women it is common to assume arousal from one and not the other 0.92
00:35:29.960 and keep in mind how high these numbers are that 15 of women huge like way more than the gay 1.00
00:35:36.520 population find the female form arousing but breasts actively disarousing that's interesting yeah 0.99
00:35:44.920 okay now we're gonna go into like the later section where we go like deep into the data on this okay 0.90
00:35:52.280 but first let's get the conventional interpretation of this out of the way typically quote-unquote gay is a
00:35:57.960 method of self-identification for individuals who are more aroused by stimuli they associate with
00:36:02.200 individuals who identify as the same gender as themselves in 2017 4.5 of americans identified as
00:36:09.560 gay this 4.5 number was reported by a gallup poll and we understand it is much lower than most people
00:36:17.160 think as the same poll show americans think the gay identifying population is 10 to 23 percent for
00:36:24.840 information on this phenomenon see the paper not threat but threatening potential causes and
00:36:29.800 consequences of gay innumeracy which found overestimation of the size of the gay population
00:36:35.400 to be common among groups that see them as a threat a more updated breakdown indicate oh sure it's also
00:36:41.480 i'm sure a comment among multiple progressives and gay people a more updated breakdown uh of this
00:36:47.160 phenomenon shows it isn't subsiding the gallup article titled america is still greatly overestimate the
00:36:53.800 us gay population shows this in our survey only three percent of the participants identified as gay
00:37:00.440 and 8.75 identified as bisexual our number is a bit low because we removed trans and gender fluid
00:37:07.400 participants from the data set which identified predominantly as gay or bisexual which our surveys
00:37:12.520 trans and gender fluid participants added back in we get around the right number identifying as gay so
00:37:18.840 now for the crazy stuff before we go into the individual like scatter plots which i find really 0.91
00:37:23.480 interesting on this 10 of males find the naked male form aversive but penises to be arousing of the 0.86
00:37:29.640 men so way more than the gay population but literally like 3x the gay population of men who find the naked 0.97
00:37:36.520 female form arousing a whopping 30 find the site of a vagina to be actively aversive than which just nobody 1.00
00:37:43.800 likes vaginas that's basically what you see we are all including women which i really relate to 0.96
00:37:49.320 i i was i was encouraged as a teenage girl you know you're gonna learn about puberty to like 0.98
00:37:56.600 hold a mirror down there i've never seen down there not once in my life because i don't want to
00:38:02.440 i feel like it's it's like staring into the maw of that that monster in star wars
00:38:06.520 well i do not like i don't like it yes i that's like that's what i'm afraid i'm gonna see if i look
00:38:15.000 down there i do not like it just so disgusting to me so disgusting so i really get that and i think 0.98
00:38:21.480 that's the that i think it's another one of those things of like just generally people like penises 0.98
00:38:27.080 generally vaginas are like you know okay so to continue going yeah only one percent of males who 1.00
00:38:34.520 find the female form arousing simultaneously find breasts to be a turnoff but 15 of females who find 0.92
00:38:41.400 the female form arousing find breasts to be a turnoff in general we find female attraction to 1.00
00:38:47.160 the male form correlate strongly to attraction to penises while 16.5 percent of women who took 0.99
00:38:52.680 our survey identified as gay or bisexual a larger 30 of women who took our survey found both vaginas 0.99
00:38:58.920 and the naked female form arousing though so or women are gay or bisexual but 30 find women hot in 0.97
00:39:07.240 every way though oddly only 18 of women found both breasts and vaginas to be arousing isn't that 0.99
00:39:15.560 interesting yeah it's like wild oh sorry it was either breasts or vaginas okay so this this seems to be the 1.00
00:39:23.880 the way that interesting so it appears that many women who find the female form and breasts arousing 0.98
00:39:31.960 don't identify themselves as bisexual because they find vaginas repulsive and they assume that these
00:39:38.200 things are correlated when they're not yeah because we've been completely led in this entire field of
00:39:44.680 research for our entire lives it's like wild that like sexuality researchers haven't picked up on this i feel
00:39:51.720 like the the entire field of sexuality research is such like retarded children at this point part of 0.98
00:39:56.520 it though i feel like there's so much inertia not just because of how academia works but because in
00:40:02.760 our society so much of someone's identity now is tied to one's chosen or yeah sexuality yeah because
00:40:11.720 if we were to begin pulling that down and and as this show is that you describe right this show comes
00:40:17.080 out and people are like what do you mean and that's because it's it's pulling at this very scary
00:40:24.600 fundamental reality shifting concept yeah all right though only six percent of men who took our survey 0.86
00:40:31.720 identified as gay or bisexual 11.4 of the men who took our survey find both the male form and penises arousing
00:40:39.640 so so the are totally straight thing this is another thing to note when we're talking about
00:40:48.440 this population as a genuinely discriminated population in our country i.e men who find the male form and
00:40:55.240 females arousing they are likely as big a population as the percent of men and identify as straight they are
00:41:03.160 likely as likely as big a population as the people in our country who identify as lgbt that is absolutely 0.80
00:41:12.280 wild so what is this the the the dark matter of of gay men the the hidden are totally straight watchers 0.90
00:41:21.400 for people who don't know are totally straight it was a subreddit for men who identified as straight but 0.93
00:41:25.720 like to masturbate to males and i'm like i'm okay with that you want to identify as straight straight 0.78
00:41:32.760 as about how you choose to live you know do what you want well you know what's really what's really 0.99
00:41:37.640 interesting too is that no one bats an eye when a lot of women online start adopting like so drag culture 1.00
00:41:47.400 is is a big trickle down culture generator right no one bats an eye when people want to be culturally
00:41:55.080 gay even when they're not gay because gay culture is super fun you know i don't know what to say but
00:42:00.680 but yet you know somehow you you can't choose to not adopt it if you have one arousal pathway that
00:42:07.480 you have no control over i think that's really interesting that like yeah no everyone's welcome
00:42:12.120 to adopt gay culture you may not be able to pull it off but you can you can try you're you're i this is
00:42:17.560 something we keep going back to your entire life should not be oriented around getting off as easily as
00:42:23.160 possible like it is so weird that for progressives you try to like it's not a good look it doesn't look the
00:42:29.800 way you think it looks yeah you don't you don't need to build your marriage your relationship
00:42:36.680 everything you do around that and i'd ask you mr progressive who's here being like no you absolutely
00:42:46.120 need to build your mr straw man malcolm let's be mr straw no no but i know there's somebody watching
00:42:51.400 this who feels this way okay we're literally nothing that you're turned on by that would be
00:42:56.440 deleterious to society if you engaged in it literally nothing oh and you're like oh well
00:43:03.000 that's a different category of saying why is that a different category of thing why for an individual
00:43:10.200 who wants to have lots of kids it may be deleterious to marry a man why is that a different thing 0.73
00:43:18.120 it's a different thing because you want to and there's this sick pleasure that i see progressives get
00:43:22.680 off on is labeling men who are in happy marriages and have lots of kids as gay they're like he's 0.97
00:43:29.160 gay i bet he's so gay it's like so so so pathetic right like they engage in this sort of homophobic 0.99
00:43:41.320 behavior that they claim to be against because they want to control the way that people live 1.00
00:43:48.680 and force them into specific lifestyles and relationships that they have chosen not to engage
00:43:55.000 with and you can't deal with the fact that they have chosen to say yes this arouses me but i will not
00:44:02.280 base my life around it anyway thoughts before i go further no proceed male arousal in response to
00:44:14.040 breasts seem to correlate with arousal in response to the female form 87 of our male respondents reported
00:44:20.360 both to be arousing there is a similar correlation in females in response if a female survey respondent 0.98
00:44:26.200 reported finding the male form arousing it was very likely she would also find penises to be arousing 71
00:44:33.240 finding both to be arousing but keep in mind that's not like 100 that means around 30 of females
00:44:37.960 who found the male form arousing and identify as dry do not find penises arousing not a single female 0.89
00:44:44.280 in our survey group reported vaginas to be arousing and the naked female form aversive very interesting 1.00
00:44:49.880 seven percent of the female study population found the naked male form arousing but the site of a vagina 0.97
00:44:55.480 aversive six percent of our female respondents found both breasts arousing and the vagina aversive 0.68
00:45:01.480 two percent of the female study takers found the site of a vagina arousing but breasts to be 1.00
00:45:06.600 aversive 36 of the female we polled found both the naked female form and the vagina aversive 0.99
00:45:16.040 and you know what i'll just be posting these while we're talking because it's much easier than going
00:45:20.520 over them in detail but they are the charts that show the female breasts arousing naked female form
00:45:26.680 arousing female vagina arousing etc because i find that to be really interesting and oh now we can get to 0.99
00:45:32.840 size you want to get into size here penis size penis and breast size what do people prefer oh gosh yeah 0.99
00:45:43.000 this classic old favorite of ours yeah and i point out here just remember again that only three percent 0.99
00:45:52.360 of our participants identified as gay and only eight point seven five percent identified as bisexual so
00:45:57.880 these numbers are mostly females and males who do not identify as gay or bisexual okay
00:46:05.960 female who what breast size do you find most arousing in women i'm just putting this on screen here
00:46:13.000 the statistic i find most interesting is i do not find breasts arousing at all despite the three percent
00:46:20.120 only one percent of men this includes gay and bi men find breasts not arousing at all pretty much all 0.70
00:46:25.880 males whether they're gay straight by whatever find breasts arousing but here's what's interesting 0.97
00:46:31.240 in women the percent that do not find breasts not arousing at all is only 23 percent 0.96
00:46:44.520 if if finding breasts arousing makes you gay or bi almost every woman is gay or bi 0.80
00:46:50.680 well i mean that's also kind of what the findings indicate though that most women are at least 0.98
00:46:59.640 they don't that they're more attracted to dominance versus submission than they are attracted to any
00:47:05.080 particular primary or secondary sexual characteristics so for women it's kind of a misnomer to be like 0.86
00:47:11.000 are you gay or straight it's more like what power dynamic are you into that's more their orientation 0.97
00:47:17.240 absolutely all right so okay here's here's a fun one penis size in men what do you prefer 0.99
00:47:24.120 okay so i'm putting this on screen here but again i think the i do not find penises arousing at all 0.99
00:47:28.920 statistics to be the most interesting what percent of men don't find penises arousing at all 69 0.93
00:47:37.320 appropriate so in a world where where where three percent and this is a below average three 0.68
00:47:42.520 percent of our participants identified as gay 8.75 percent identified as bisexual a good 30 percent 0.96
00:47:48.680 of men found penises arousing i mean you know they're just there's so much i just there's so much 0.99
00:47:56.520 more i i want to say user friendly than vaginas i just uh i mean look at uh look at like 1.00
00:48:05.480 uh penises correlate with the attraction sphere and vaginas correlate with the disgust sphere in my 1.00
00:48:16.920 world i i'm sorry to come across as such a vagina here in this video but like when you think about 1.00
00:48:22.200 it watch watch the movie alien right what what what is the alien but an inverted like a prolapsed vagina 1.00
00:48:29.800 it's just like all mucus all just you know like vaginas are associated with the thing it shoots 1.00
00:48:36.440 out of its mouth is clearly supposed to be reminiscent of a penis i know but it's goopy you know 0.99
00:48:46.440 sorry and i don't know anyway we don't need we don't need my sex negativity in this room this is 0.99
00:48:53.480 a no i think people need to be affirmed in having these sex negative opinions in their sex negativity
00:49:01.160 no no sex sex negative people need to like rise up and by rise up what i mean is they need to
00:49:08.120 understand that their perspectives are and i hate to use this term valid but that doesn't mean that they
00:49:14.920 need to impose them on other people no that's so true yes yes yeah well and and the so important
00:49:20.200 thing and why i love the pragmatist guide to sexuality is a book so much is it like the
00:49:24.360 message it hammers home again and again is your arousal and disgust pathways are not an indication
00:49:30.440 of moral good or bad your logic is that indication you decide for yourself what is good or bad in this
00:49:37.480 world what is moral if something disgusts you that doesn't mean it's evil and i think that's the big
00:49:42.360 problem is a lot of a lot of women are turned on by violent erotic material and then a portion of 1.00
00:49:48.440 women are like super turned off by it and then they can't understand that while not morally condoning 1.00
00:49:57.240 this material some women just kind of want to watch it and they're like no one can ever watch this and 1.00
00:50:01.400 it's evil and blah blah blah and just just so many things get screwed up you know like a lot of people
00:50:06.120 are turned on by the concept of rape like for real it's a big turn on that doesn't mean that they
00:50:12.520 condone it we asked how much just so there was no confusion about whether this was a fantasy or not
00:50:20.440 a fantasy we go how much do you like the fantasy or role play of grape and then immediately after that
00:50:27.960 we make how much do you get turned on by the guy of actually being graved there's a huge number of
00:50:34.040 women i can't remember how to impose so for role play of grape it was for females 38 percent males 16 0.93
00:50:43.640 and that is being on the receiving end of it in terms of actually it happening to you males 23
00:50:51.080 females five percent and if you're looking at just general statistics on this you will find that around 0.99
00:50:58.520 four percent to five percent of reported grape cases report women feeling physiological arousal
00:51:06.040 during the process so this is wild i was looking for the text on the grape statistics in the book
00:51:11.880 and i found a section i had forgotten about that breaks them down by attractiveness rating and so
00:51:17.160 this is subjective attractiveness rating how attractive an individual sees themselves as being
00:51:21.560 but unattractive men taking our survey were much more likely to report finding grape role play arousing
00:51:27.400 with 66 of the lowest level attractiveness finding it a turn on contrasted with 10 of average men
00:51:33.080 and 14 of hot men the same is true for females but to a lesser extent was 44 of the least attractive
00:51:39.000 category of women reporting arousal at the idea of role playing being graped contrasted with 22 of
00:51:44.680 women for average attractiveness we see similar results for the thought of actual grape with 20 of 1.00
00:51:51.080 women in the least attractive category finding it arousing and only 3 of women in the average
00:51:55.720 category finding it arousing the same is seen among respondents for our male study participants with
00:52:01.000 50 in the least attractive category finding grape arousing and only 2 of men in the attractive
00:52:06.120 category finding grape arousing yeah disturbing uh deeply disturbing but but not like because there
00:52:12.600 are evolutionary reasons why surviving women who were kind of okay with this happening to them you know
00:52:19.880 why there were more surviving women than the ones who were like i will die before i let this happen to me 0.99
00:52:24.440 because they died and they didn't reproduce as it just so happens so yeah i mean there are reasons why
00:52:30.600 this happens and it's not great but it's what it is you know and just accepting that accepting reality
00:52:36.920 being pragmatic about it is the key yeah i i really one of the things that the guy kept mentioning in
00:52:43.720 the video this progressive guy watching this video these mormons who are like totally okay with this
00:52:48.760 and he's like just so disgusted and judgmental of them that they are he's like they're so supportive
00:52:55.720 for non-supportive of being gay right and it's like no what they are is supportive of these people's
00:53:02.600 choices and i look forward of the day life choices that you don't support the day where we enter a society
00:53:11.400 in which people can talk about the things that arouse them and that can be completely divorced from the
00:53:17.480 way they're expected to live their life yeah one of the weirdest things i've heard about the urban
00:53:22.440 monoculture and it's so true is it's almost like you're expected to like go out and search for all
00:53:28.360 the things that can turn you on even if you would never want to know if something could turn you on
00:53:33.880 even if you're like for example like a map stuff like minor attractive person why would you ever want
00:53:40.920 to know if that would turn you on there's there's some kind of insinuation that people should be
00:53:45.640 exploring that well no there there basically is it's like you should go through every category
00:53:51.160 of porn this is basically something that a lot of like no sexuality explore your sexuality that's
00:53:57.240 what they say they gotta turn it off like a light switch just switch
00:54:05.240 it's a neat little moment start to get confused because of thoughts in your head
00:54:11.560 don't feel those feelings hold them in instead
00:54:19.400 turn it off like a line switch just go click it's a cool little warm and trick
00:54:26.360 we do it all the time when you're feeling certain feelings that just don't seem right
00:54:31.560 treat those pesky feelings like a reading light so turn it off like a light switch just go back
00:54:39.400 really what's so hard about that turn it off i'll put that in yeah that's a good clip there
00:54:45.960 right like you but the thing is like you don't even need to know if you haven't been exposed to
00:54:50.520 something you might not know that it would ever arouse you right like you don't actually have a
00:54:56.360 mandate to explore this stuff it doesn't matter it's genetic scars
00:55:03.480 if it's something you didn't have a choice over it's not part of who you
00:55:07.080 are genetic scars it's a great way of putting it yeah yeah are the things you choose to be
00:55:13.640 yeah yeah no 100 separate your sexuality with it's not like yeah we so we don't marry people
00:55:23.720 based on our tastes in food for example you know if we should see them as just as as connected i'm
00:55:30.120 gonna get that traditionally reproducing with someone who disgusted you would be really
00:55:40.440 difficult but we have the technology to not need to reproduce that way none of our children were
00:55:46.040 produced through sex we have sex but none of our children were produced through that process they 0.87
00:55:50.840 were produced through ivf because i am super infernal there are ways around you not necessarily wanting to
00:55:59.080 bang your partner each night and also there are amazing alternatives to using another person to 0.98
00:56:08.680 sexually gratify yourself and you know especially now with ai combine ai with like really good sex 0.99
00:56:18.120 toys and i don't know i just don't know why a quote-unquote loveless marriage is a bad thing anymore 0.92
00:56:24.920 considering where we are in society with technology with ai and with the clear need for much more
00:56:31.240 pragmatic and practical mutually beneficial relationships life partnerships absolutely yeah
00:56:40.040 and i also note here and i somewhat tipped my hand on this but it's one of the reasons i feel so strongly
00:56:45.560 about this uh which is to say that if i am somebody who is a straight male who is aroused by extreme
00:56:55.080 like i'm an extremely dominant straight male like i'm overly straight and overly dominant in my arousal
00:57:00.600 patterns to the extent where if i am presented with super normal stimuli of
00:57:06.360 dominance or straightness i.e here's an example of super normal stimuli two women having sex is a 0.99
00:57:15.320 super normal stimuli for a guy to be engaging it right like this is all women just like extra way 1.00
00:57:21.240 it's funny somebody mentioned it's a fairly normal thing for guys to be into because uh i remember one
00:57:26.360 comedian he's like you know you ask women what they're into and they're like oh i'm into like x weird
00:57:31.480 thing or i'm into why weird thing and for a minute it's like more women i want one woman two women 1.00
00:57:37.320 good three women better four more women is better and then also more dominance right like more 1.00
00:57:47.480 dominance better to the extent where if i treated a real person that way it would be deleterious to
00:57:53.160 them outside of very controlled like role play scenarios and i am able to say i don't need to
00:58:00.440 structure my life around this because i realize it's deleterious and not good for daily living
00:58:06.360 yeah well just how much time it takes and it's one thing to be a dink couple that just chooses to 1.00
00:58:14.200 make this your hobby but yeah they're just they're way more efficient ways to do it even if you want
00:58:19.800 to maximize your amount of pleasure including sexual gratification it's easier to do it without
00:58:24.840 a human because just when you involve a human in it then there's just this additional layer of
00:58:30.040 all the coordination and the prep and the cleanup and the aftercare and it's just like can we not
00:58:34.680 find a better way to do that exactly well here here's a great way to put this right is would i be
00:58:40.040 more aroused like if i was arousal maxing my life to have a 24 7 like live-in slave this is something
00:58:47.720 that some couples do they structure their relationship with a wife yeah look up gorian
00:58:52.280 forums g-o-r-e-a yeah and i'm like yeah i would be more aroused by that lifestyle would i be more happy
00:59:02.520 in that lifestyle no i want somebody who i respect and can have conversations with and enjoy talking to
00:59:11.000 and who can push me and who can work and who can earn money and they don't need to like
00:59:15.720 dote on all day or like have some sort of weird master slave sexual interaction no i yeah honestly
00:59:21.800 i and this is this is another thing that came up in the sexuality book though is that
00:59:26.200 when it comes down to it not a lot of people want to be super dominant because it's a lot of work
00:59:32.360 it is a lot of work you don't want to manage that yeah it's a lot of energy i can be like
00:59:38.280 i prefer this in a narrative context right yeah but in my actual life that would be a nightmare to
00:59:46.280 have to maintain frame all the time exhausting exhausting oh yeah that's the thing you can have
00:59:54.040 a frame that would be most arousing for you that isn't your personality and you're like yeah but but
01:00:01.560 with the urban monoculture it's like oh no you'd be most aroused by having a live-in slave you gotta do
01:00:06.920 that that's the only option for you it's like no it's not the only option for you you can say oh
01:00:13.640 i don't need to i can either make that some sort of like role play scenario but even that would take
01:00:19.400 a long time to set up like why not just porn right like why do i need to why not porn yeah no it's but
01:00:29.640 you know what here's the thing though and here's here's our glimmer of hope malcolm
01:00:33.080 is that it's i i don't know maybe it's not a glimmer of hope
01:00:37.640 society seems to have discovered this have you seen rates of sex recently people have just heard
01:00:42.760 all right like we're in a post-sex society i think now we've gone half the way there right okay so we
01:00:48.760 we've gone to the point where we've acknowledged we don't need other people to sexually gratify
01:00:52.760 ourselves now we have to go the rest of the way of oh but we should still probably form life
01:00:57.000 partnerships with people and raise families because it's it's really fun cool thing to do and
01:01:01.560 you know everyone's better off for it so absolutely yeah just let's just put just
01:01:07.000 separate them all diverse it completely okay done well i'm glad we talked this through society fixed i 1.00
01:01:14.280 love you society fixed i love you you're a great wife what am i having for dinner tonight
01:01:18.680 if i can find bread it seems to have disappeared a grilled cheese sandwich with tomato soup or maybe
01:01:25.240 if you're up for a quesadilla with tomato soup or i can do pot stickers which i think i still have
01:01:31.960 quesadilla with tomato soup i haven't had quesadilla in ages a quesadilla or as our children say
01:01:37.080 quesadilla i love you to death sabone we still need to oh my god i was thinking about like what
01:01:46.520 you need to take this out but i was thinking like well if we had a merch shop because i was looking
01:01:52.440 at other channels similar to us and a lot of them had merch and i was like well we would only ever do
01:01:56.200 like an etsy shop with like really custom stuff and like someone reached out to us about t-shirts
01:01:59.640 and i'm like well obviously we'd make a of your and spell that image why amazing it's a great it is
01:02:12.200 it is perfect i mean i've i've you know like in all the porn i've seen i've never seen a that i
01:02:18.360 thought looks better than yours you're not the only woman who has noted that i know that and i'm so i'm
01:02:22.680 like well we could sell a malcolm in our merch shop you're so creepy simone it's sad that only i
01:02:31.960 am enjoying it you know like it's uh it's a loss to humanity so i was like you know i mean if anything
01:02:40.680 people would go to the merch shop just to see the and then maybe they might buy one of our our
01:02:48.680 artists and shirts or you know handmade paper planes by octavian which you would certainly want
01:02:54.520 to list on the shop so i it's a but i i i i what i love about this in this conversation is it and i
01:03:03.880 think it's where we need to go with the society we need to both de-stigmatize sexuality and decouple
01:03:10.280 it from moral mandates and identity i think once that is done the left has nothing it can use to get
01:03:17.960 your kid no no no no yeah the love can't get you um you're you know if you take the identity out of
01:03:22.840 politics and you don't have identity politics anymore oh my gosh suddenly we return to
01:03:28.360 the the age of debate and you know rational conversation and wouldn't that be amazing so yeah
01:03:34.600 again society fixed i will go make your your dinner love you love you
01:03:43.960 make sure you mess with just the right sides
01:03:48.360 for our autistic audience you know what uh last night i was watching titan
01:03:55.160 line up gummies in a little neat line and then eat them and i realized she's coming over to the
01:04:03.320 fold malcolm oh no we got another one another systematizer
01:04:07.720 flush of autistic children i hope so honestly so far all of our kids old enough to be diagnosed with 0.98
01:04:15.000 autism have been so and it has simone so this is this is what i get for choosing a hottest
01:04:20.520 hottest autists autisinal children 1.00
01:04:23.800 autisinal i get i go for autism 0.70
01:04:26.600 actually i like hot
01:04:27.560 i i the hottest
01:04:29.400 h-a-u-t-i-s-t-s right no well that's the way they call it like like a haughty
01:04:36.040 culture or whatever but like it's meant to me
01:04:39.160 who coined it i don't know if they've said it online but they are a famous friend of ours that
01:04:43.960 i really like and she coined it to mean hot women who are artistic 1.00
01:04:48.440 and all hang out in the community together i still like autisinal but
01:04:55.320 whatever anyway
01:04:58.360 oh so she actually meant hot as in h-o-t
01:05:01.160 yeah she means the hot smart autistic women yeah yeah that's what she was talking about 0.59
01:05:06.760 yeah well we i i thought you were referring to h-a-u-t-e
01:05:11.560 yeah uh anyway but you would never use french of course what was i thinking yes go on
01:05:15.880 you don't have to do a thing a thought can be a thought without anyone seeing
01:05:34.680 a kink can be a kink without anyone knowing you don't have to do a thing 1.00
01:05:42.760 i support that you want to dress up like a girl but when you do that in front of kids man it makes 0.98
01:05:52.840 me want to hurl you don't have to do a thing you don't have to do a thing there is more to life than
01:06:06.120 feeling good there is more to life than having would
01:06:16.120 this is something we once understood you don't have to do a thing you don't have to do a thing
01:06:20.120 so go ahead and fall in love build on earth what's above
01:06:34.120 go out there and find a wife sex is not the point of life you don't have to do a thing 0.98
01:07:02.120 so go ahead and fall in love build on earth what's above go out there and find a wife 0.80
01:07:22.280 sex is not sex is not the point of life you don't have to do a thing
01:07:36.280 there is more to life than what turns you sure the path is harder but we've got meaning through this border
01:07:46.280 you don't have to do a thing
01:07:50.280 there is more to life than feeling good there is more to life than having would
01:08:04.280 so go ahead and fall in love build on earth what's above go out there and find a wife sex is not the point of life
01:08:22.280 you don't have to do a thing
01:08:34.280 you don't have to do a thing
01:08:42.280 you
01:08:44.280 you
01:08:54.280 you
01:08:56.280 you