Based Camp - Why Did Epstein's System Work？ (The Science + Fact Checking)

00:00:00.000 hello simone i'm excited to be here with you today we are going crazy world with these epstein leaks

00:00:07.920 i swear rich people really love pizza such a big pizza problem that is my big takeaway i love it

00:00:18.700 even after reading these simone the credulous person she is immediately is like do i send so

00:00:25.540 many emails about pizza yeah so she goes to her inbox to see how many times she has mentioned

00:00:31.500 pizza in how many was it eight that's a suspicious number of emails well no one was from octavian

00:00:38.120 school district one was from a scientific research paper one was from an outline from one of our

00:00:44.140 episodes basically in no in no email from last year did we at any point talk about pizza over email

00:00:52.360 aside from a children's birthday party invite and the rest of it was just like quoting other people

00:00:57.000 and we have children and aren't super rich right like we know the demographic oh yeah no no here's how

00:01:03.920 the pizza we served at octavian's birthday was cooked in our oven it wasn't even like ordered pizza

00:01:12.120 so the my favorite thing about this particular epstein leak is it the one guy who like wasn't

00:01:22.440 on board with the naming system and so everyone is like hey how about that pizza and grape juice we had

00:01:29.720 last night and then there's this one guy who's like i really like the torture video she sent me

00:01:34.920 i imagine epstein it's like whenever you're doing something that's like shady at work

00:01:41.560 and you have to get everyone together and you're like okay you understand we do not email each other

00:01:46.140 about this right i really like the fraud we're doing

00:01:51.480 i love that i love the part where we hunted people for sport that was i really love this one

00:02:01.180 this this one witless guy who is still somehow blanked in the in the emails yeah but what we're

00:02:08.540 gonna go over in this episode are two core questions the first and i think more interesting

00:02:14.660 question is the science behind all of this which is we are for people who don't know this actually

00:02:20.400 pretty esteemed researchers in the sex space was ayla even saying that our research is some of the best

00:02:25.560 out there so because i find it really fascinating and one of the biggest findings that we broke that

00:02:32.500 other people have have have found correlatory since our breaking it is that the wealthier a man gets

00:02:41.020 the smaller his breast preference which if you're looking at a societally okay way to say

00:02:48.760 you like younger women or potentially even what's the word hemophilia where they're you know teenagers

00:02:57.360 or whatever women which is the core market that epstein dealt with the we gotta ask why why is this a

00:03:05.560 trend why does it happen and how do networks of predators because in the past everyone who said

00:03:13.200 there are elite networks of sexual predators like pda files everyone would have said that's crazy

00:03:21.520 you know you do that is the the classic conspiracy theory and now it's like definitionally true and

00:03:27.720 the government tried to cover it up for a really long time so bad it's so bad we're so bad pade is so

00:03:34.280 back you people you can't say that that's one of the most likely to get you banned things on youtube

00:03:39.060 okay sorry we cannot talk about that oh you don't know guys so some higher ups at youtube

00:03:45.700 really don't want us talking about that exact word but what we are going to i wonder i wonder why

00:03:54.360 what we're going to do is the science of this because i think it's very interesting i mean for me

00:03:59.900 i just can't imagine getting wrapped up in something like that i can imagine being into like weird stuff

00:04:06.660 on my own right but i can't imagine wanting to do it with friends or entering like a big

00:04:14.060 network of doers that didn't talk about it offline right so i want to understand what's going on there

00:04:23.020 and i say all this where mar-a-lago is literally having high profile furry parties now the rights just

00:04:30.780 embracing normal freaking fetishes these days they're like you know what furries we've made fun

00:04:38.200 let's have a furry party at the mar-a-lago right like all the conservative big ones we did it guys

00:04:44.960 say the furries have you seen pictures of this simone yeah i have yeah i have yeah and then the

00:04:50.840 other thing i want to cover because i've been genuinely disappointed by the top conservative

00:04:54.580 influencer coverage of this it is what was real in this drop and what wasn't real in this drop

00:05:04.560 and duxonor and asmogold who i really love have just dropped the ball in terms of their

00:05:09.840 uh their coverage on this and so have a number of other people i watch for just a quick summary if

00:05:17.400 you have heard stuff bantered around and you're not really sure oh what's likely this what's likely

00:05:22.580 that all of the stuff involving eating babies or torturing people or murdering people all of

00:05:32.040 that all of that stuff the aforementioned the torture video was great email except for the

00:05:37.680 torture video was great but that was except for that one that wasn't him actively participating

00:05:43.240 in torture i'm talking about the all of this stuff that suggests that not that he had like

00:05:48.420 a collection of inappropriate videos which is you know if you're talking about like depraved

00:05:54.560 internet gunner type individuals even even the recent leak was uh the conservative black stringer

00:06:00.760 guy had stuff like that right i think yeah i mean i guess the the the line between intense bdsm and

00:06:07.800 beyond that is is thin yeah so i wanted to there's just no good evidence for any of that stuff even in

00:06:16.100 the the leaks the one where they were like on a boat and eating babies right oh that yeah that one

00:06:23.020 explicitly said it came from hypnosis recovered memories yeah it sounds like a schizo fever dream

00:06:29.480 if you have no experience of if you have no experience with psychology and you've never taken any classes on

00:06:38.460 i'll just basically tell you what that means in psychology terms it means he made it up yeah

00:06:44.480 if if you've been hypnotized and you remembered something hypnotized recovered memories are in in my

00:06:54.360 instance there actually isn't a single known instance of them recovering a confirmably verifiable

00:07:00.440 memory there isn't a single known instance in all of human history of this working to recover real

00:07:08.100 memories sorry i wanted to make sure of this there's literally one potential exception in 1976

00:07:14.880 in the chiwali bus kidnapping tied to finding a license plate other than that there is no instance

00:07:26.120 ever in human history where this worked it is a uh mechanism for implanting memories and these are

00:07:33.240 exactly the type of schizo memories that somebody would have had implanted in them especially if you

00:07:38.080 look at the other things that he remembers about his life like apparently everyone he knew growing up

00:07:42.640 was graping him and stuff like that but it sounds like he just started to one everyone i know is

00:07:47.540 graping me and then two let's also say that the famous people were doing it so i sound more important

00:07:53.960 right secondly a lot of the other stuff like the ones with gillian maxwell like tying somebody up and

00:08:00.900 shocking them that one sounds like that could just be normal pdsm yeah and then two yeah that's just a

00:08:08.700 good time people it's from a random report from somebody that was unconfirmed right it's the same with the

00:08:16.120 the girl who was tortured as a s slave keep in mind that the person who wrote the book about epstein you know

00:08:23.320 the posthumous book also described herself as an s slave even though she very clearly was not what

00:08:29.540 we would standardly consider an s slave and there are actual like many many many many many people who

00:08:36.360 are in s slavery so so it it is what i'm saying here is that i could see somebody else using the

00:08:42.820 term incorrectly in in this instance and with the killing stuff the fact that we have no body

00:08:47.780 no likely body no like again that just seems un unplausible to me the elon connections are

00:08:55.820 tentative from our because people you know know now we've had personal interactions with them because

00:09:00.340 the new york times leaked it he seemed to take personal pride in invading epstein and sort of

00:09:06.360 sticking it to epstein and you can see how long he's been trying to get the files released i think it's

00:09:12.140 it also needs to be said and this is really clear from mainstream journalistic reporting on how epstein

00:09:18.640 worked the way he worked was to take anyone who was in a position of power and influence and put them

00:09:26.600 into positions where he could blackmail them into doing what he wanted which often involved extorting

00:09:32.240 money from them or making them do other things either by you know saying they were gonna he was gonna

00:09:38.760 release really embarrassing things so he would even you know he would try to even just through

00:09:45.200 connection or you know i'm gonna send this person across your path in a way that's gonna make you

00:09:51.220 look but bad it's kind of how nick fuentes used to photobomb people you know to like try to get them

00:09:56.660 canceled back when that was possible to do epstein did a much more sophisticated and much more dangerous

00:10:02.080 version of that or maybe you'd hire him as an accountant and then you know he kind of said he was going to

00:10:06.980 handle some things you kind of look the other way because you it sounded really great and you didn't

00:10:10.380 want to know what he was doing because it you know you knew that it might be a little bit dubious and

00:10:14.720 then suddenly you discover that he's basically embezzling money from you but you can't not let

00:10:20.240 him do it because what he did with your finances with apparently you know with with your tacit oversight

00:10:26.100 would put you in jail so that's how he worked that was his operation so he intentionally would word

00:10:31.900 emails in ways that were meant to try to incriminalize other people incriminate well and he would

00:10:36.500 intentionally try to build connections with people and write about building connections with people

00:10:41.540 to build this network so non-consensually people got associated with him with the elon emails like

00:10:48.960 the biggest smoking gun you have is the one like hey i'll come to your island on whatever night the

00:10:53.380 craziest party is but it doesn't appear that he went and it's important to note that when you're

00:10:57.660 talking about rich people like this we have personally had meetings confirmed with elon that

00:11:03.440 got blown off like two days beforehand or something like that like this is when you're talking about

00:11:08.940 somebody of that level of wealth confirming something and then not showing up is an over 50

00:11:13.880 percent of the time type of thing especially if it's something social like an island party or

00:11:18.500 something like that it seems very likely elon just blew him off so i i see nothing there there was

00:11:26.000 nothing additional on trump that was meaningful more stuff on how much epstein hated trump and how

00:11:30.880 much trump hated epstein there was unconfirmed allegations against trump but these allegations

00:11:36.400 have been around the public for a long time and in terms of people our side wants to get like

00:11:42.620 zorha mandami they're like he's in the epstein files not really his mom was he had a at a screening for

00:11:49.740 one of her movies and that was listed in the epstein files like epstein had it at one of his

00:11:55.220 estates or something and so she and him would have been at the same party like oh spooky and i need

00:12:02.100 you to keep in mind when you're like oh people don't just make stuff up to try to associate

00:12:07.260 themselves with random famous people who are sort of doing the rounds we had a 20 minute crash out

00:12:13.860 about how we are vampires who practice dark magic on the number one podcast in the world about us

00:12:19.180 on the joe rogan podcast see our episode about that if you want like when you are on the tongue

00:12:26.860 of the public people have crash outs about you and the cool thing about that one is it pulled from a

00:12:32.880 lot of real sources i thought he did a good job researching it i like that crash out right like

00:12:36.980 that was like okay yeah metzger gets your gold star of approval cold star yeah no what's what's

00:12:44.060 hilarious is i feel like kurt metzger's take on us was no actually it's not i feel i know for a fact

00:12:50.600 that kurt metzger's take on us on the joe rogan experience was more accurate than matt bernstein's

00:12:57.620 appearance take on us like hour long i think hour plus long take on us in the a bit fruity podcast

00:13:03.360 which is insane to me because presumably he did research he did an entire podcast just about us kurt

00:13:09.240 metzger just mentioned us offhand after like two hours of conspiracy theorizing and he got more

00:13:15.200 right and it was all closer than normal progressive talking points about us isn't that insane what even

00:13:21.920 why but i feel like yeah we're in the era where the conspiracy theories are more correct than the

00:13:27.600 mainstream left what i'm saying is conservatives expect more of their conspiracy theorists we do

00:13:32.480 higher standard higher standards it was progressives you just say the narrative and nobody thinks to

00:13:37.900 question you and you won't get in trouble if you're wrong if the person's a bad naughty person

00:13:41.360 apparently but i guess i went on too far of a tangent with what's real and what's not okay so what is

00:13:46.260 real in the latest drop like what is likely real again this is all conjecture on our part we're not

00:13:51.480 experts the big likely ones are more stuff on the prince it appears the prince was a bigger part of

00:13:58.260 the operation than had previously been believed prince andrew yeah and he really used the fact that

00:14:03.900 andrew was at a party to try to get other famous people to go and to legitimize the parties that

00:14:08.520 totally makes sense absolutely 100 that is lure and authentication mechanism as much as the girls

00:14:15.840 were and then this is this i know also provably this is how elite society meetings go when you invite

00:14:23.460 elite people to an event the top hook that that is used and this is across different networks groups

00:14:30.640 meetings conferences is who else is going you know will i be able to see this other person

00:14:36.920 that i want to know and it doesn't seem like there's a cap to someone's level of money or fame

00:14:43.960 um and their excitement about meeting some other famous people like you don't instantly get to just

00:14:50.320 meet or dm anyone else who's famous if you yourself are famous famous people still want access to

00:14:56.860 other famous people and so those who who manipulate them and connect them with each other which included

00:15:03.720 jeffrey epstein use them as lures to catch more yes and it works really i mean especially that's

00:15:12.160 this is one of the reasons why i was going to say i'll go into why the pda networks grow

00:15:16.220 as soon as you've been implicated in something even edge case like that now all of a sudden you sort of

00:15:22.700 need to go along with it and be really nice to the person and the way that epstein did it to explain to

00:15:27.880 you why it's so nefarious because i pointed this out in previous videos our society has a very very

00:15:33.820 bad trait which we should not do which is conflating hebephylia with gay files okay if you're not familiar

00:15:43.540 hebephylia is like a 17 year old 16 year old girl or something like that now epstein can send to your

00:15:50.540 room a 17 or 16 year old girl without you knowing that this girl is 17 or 16 years old she grew up

00:15:57.300 in russia she lived a hard life she may look a bit older i mean you've seen the pictures of gen z

00:16:01.300 also in terms of even if we're talking about the legality or illegality of it depending on and keep

00:16:08.220 in mind epstein's parties events the network etc highly international these things are happening not

00:16:13.300 always in the united states and i don't know malcolm if you could pull up an age of consent map but

00:16:18.480 when someone first showed one to me i was kind of floored by how low the age of consent is in other

00:16:23.440 countries yeah it's really low it's like 14 or something in a lot of yeah so i mean epstein you

00:16:29.160 know could have been hosting a party in in some other country and sending girls over and it was

00:16:33.740 totally legal like nothing bad happened but so while it's creepy it's not illegal in those instances

00:16:40.480 then the way this works is he sends over somebody who you don't have a clear way to know and you don't

00:16:46.300 think that somebody's sending an underage person to your room or something like yeah or also like

00:16:51.080 you're a dude you're drunk and you're at a party like there's a point where most people don't say

00:16:57.200 no yeah it's just i think this is really well demonstrated by those various research studies

00:17:03.800 which probably wouldn't pass an ethics pass an ethics board now where they had female researchers

00:17:08.240 just walk up to random guys on a college campus and was like hey you want to go like yeah would you

00:17:12.940 like to have sex with me and the boys would be no no questions asked just like yes yeah i think even

00:17:17.640 wealthy men are like other big real one that is the most embarrassing most horrible thing ever is the

00:17:23.320 bill gates one like for people who haven't heard i'll be quick about it because it's so embarrassing

00:17:28.740 uh he asked how he could get antibiotics to slip to his wife secretly after contracting a std from a

00:17:38.180 russian and that is the most embarrassing leak i have ever it actually made me feel bad for bill

00:17:47.180 gates and i know this is horrible because bill gates is being a sleazeball in this entire situation

00:17:52.420 but i was like resourceful i mean like we have they're expired now but we have entire boxes full

00:17:59.460 of antibiotics that we picked up in peru because you can just buy them over the counter in most cases

00:18:04.420 and he could just get it he could just get the antibiotics he needed he didn't need to ask

00:18:09.780 pills that i take every day without really questioning like i've been like what are these

00:18:14.180 new ones and you're like i don't know i'm like take them yeah it's the same with me and you if i

00:18:20.480 just came to you and was like hey take these pills for a week you're like sure i don't know i'd be like

00:18:25.240 just take them simone like come on what do you know you sure like that's already a breakdown in

00:18:31.620 communication right there although maybe we are way too trusting of each other now that i think

00:18:35.800 about it that you're just like malcolm new pills um i read some study you know you don't need to

00:18:42.200 confirm your doctor said so you don't forget malcolm i chose the bear maybe you really should be

00:18:47.180 questioning anyway yeah you chose the bear right so the bill gates thing super embarrassing okay i

00:18:54.780 was wrong on this one the bill gates smoking gun was an unsent email in epstein's angry unsent email

00:19:04.840 list drafts list so it's not as strong of a smoking gun as i thought because bill gates didn't send it

00:19:10.780 bill gates didn't confirm it he didn't even receive it now it would be very weird to write an unsent email

00:19:16.040 like this if this was entirely fictional or wrong uh but epstein specialized in trying to get other

00:19:26.600 like to create the interpretation of dirt on other people so all mark this is maybe less 100 than i

00:19:36.300 originally thought sorry where was i going but yes the point being is he gets you the first time with

00:19:40.780 somebody you don't know is underage and then it's like well then you have to go again and then this

00:19:46.340 other time you're at a party and oh no somebody is you know something more egregious is happening and

00:19:50.920 you saw it and you have to pretend you're okay with it because you're at the party on an island and you

00:19:55.220 don't want to pretend to be you know and a lot of these people grew up nerds and stuff like that so

00:19:58.960 they're like i guess i'm okay with this now um so that that's how you get you know looped into this

00:20:03.780 stuff in regards to the science of like wealthy men and why they are more likely to like this

00:20:10.540 stuff than non-wealthy men yeah i'll quickly go into this for our audience because it is fascinating

00:20:16.380 from an evolutionary perspective so i mean and then again these are our theories as to why this

00:20:21.300 would be the data that we pulled on this was really striking when we pulled the data so you're acting

00:20:27.720 like it's just a theory wealthy men prefer smaller breasts this pattern is even more striking than we

00:20:32.800 anticipated in our data not a single man in the wealthiest category of those taking our survey

00:20:37.080 reported preferring a breast size above average with around half preferring small breasts so

00:20:42.060 around half of wealthy men preferred the smallest breast size selectable in a breast selection list

00:20:47.680 our survey respondents who reported being in the second highest wealth category reported preferring

00:20:54.360 breasts small breasts but at a rate of 17 and a robust 84 preferred breasts of average are smaller

00:21:00.980 so if you're if you're wealthy but not in the super category of wealth still 84 are preferring

00:21:06.200 smaller than average bass breasts contrast that was the lowest category of income where only five

00:21:12.600 percent of men said they preferred the smallest category of breasts now keep in mind what was it

00:21:17.160 over 50 percent of the wealthiest category five percent in the lowest category and so the question is

00:21:22.760 what's what's going on here right like what's what because you can't a wealthy person kind of know to

00:21:27.320 not say that they're interested in morphologically useful women right so they're going to have some other way

00:21:32.760 of saying that and this was an easy way for us to track that so what what does that why why would you

00:21:38.260 have this preference if you are a male you're in a very interesting position in terms of what arouses you

00:21:44.400 right which is to say typically in a species what you are going to have aroused you are traits that are

00:21:52.680 morphologically unique to the opposite gender of your species and in humans what are the traits that are

00:22:00.260 morphologically unique to human females it is breasts it is hip to waist ratio it is a slightly larger

00:22:09.980 but unless you are african and then it's a much larger but because there's a morphological difference

00:22:14.380 there but then in some unique groups like the cosine you have other morphologically gendered unique

00:22:19.640 things but generally a breast breast and waist to hip ratio the problem with that is as a male you are

00:22:27.180 not only optimizing for a morphologically female partner right like the most female possible you

00:22:34.000 have a second thing that you're optimizing for which is a length of her fertility window because

00:22:38.820 that determines how many kids you can have all right women with the highest length fertility window

00:22:45.820 are going to be in the category you know i i would think like your your best fertility years are what

00:22:54.100 like two years after puberty or something like that so that's going to be like 16 15 i think 16 is

00:23:00.080 probably like the sweet spot right and then this explains why a lot of countries have like 14 at the

00:23:04.640 younger age for consent no i need to clarify that the absolute peak for getting pregnant like

00:23:12.440 conceivability is early 20s this is the peak for if you're trying to maximize your fertility window

00:23:18.640 no i i don't think that's good i think that kids develop at a slower rate in modern society and so

00:23:24.880 while i think that you likely were not actually causing psychological trauma or damage when this

00:23:29.820 was happening you know when 14 year old a 15 year old arranged marriages were happening in a medieval

00:23:34.060 context i think a kid in a modern context is certainly going to have developmental issues tied to

00:23:38.880 that because they're going to be well i mean they do technically develop faster these days because of

00:23:43.660 the chemicals that they have i mean girls go through puberty earlier but i think

00:23:46.480 mentally they develop a lot slower yeah i don't i don't actually know the reasoning behind the

00:23:50.700 different ages but i do know that in terms of health complications they they are higher when you

00:23:56.340 are uniquely young oh yeah when you're like very young like right after puberty i did not say right

00:24:00.840 i mean like a few but anyway the point here being is that if you are unga bunga caveman i don't care

00:24:08.160 about ethics i want to have as many babies as possible which is like what your genes are yeah right and if you

00:24:14.280 know that you have resources sufficient to care for your partners as well so you don't need to make

00:24:21.800 sure that they have excess fat stores well we'll get to that in a second because you also see this

00:24:26.640 in poor individuals they prefer fatter larger breasts again you see this as well so you you as a

00:24:31.540 male are pulled between two things one is being sure that they are a female which is larger breasts

00:24:38.300 and wider waist to hip ratio and two is being sure that they are younger which is smaller breasts

00:24:45.380 smaller waist to hip ratio so you're dealing with two opposite patterns here right um and what i

00:24:53.980 hypothesize is that if you are extremely well resourced you are better off optimizing for the

00:25:01.560 secondary pattern right optimizing for the longer fertility window because you with the other guys

00:25:09.180 you're basically like okay i want to ensure that she has fat stores that she's healthy that we can

00:25:15.260 make kids right now and that those kids will be healthy if made right now and we'll get maybe

00:25:22.320 four kids or something like that right for wealthy guy it's well i want to aim for like 20 kids right

00:25:28.840 like i want to aim for like 17 kids right like yeah long-term investments like that yeah they're

00:25:34.220 willing to i can afford those 17 kids right like i can afford those 20 kids right so you you would

00:25:41.260 have a biological benefit from having this dimorphic preference in arousal patterns which will explain

00:25:48.880 why and you actually see this in other parts of the data which is to say that wealthier men in terms of

00:25:55.420 how they do mate displays and this was interesting for for women being less wealthy that we found in

00:26:02.040 our data is that they prefer more stereotypically masculine men e.g the like wood chopper lumberjack

00:26:12.220 car mechanic type guy right like very very buff and masculine yeah whereas wealthy women prefer well

00:26:19.660 like metro sexual vampire like looking guy you know that's i didn't know about that that's very

00:26:27.800 interesting well and you also see this was males males prefer more like if you look at like what

00:26:34.440 are other like gender dimorphic displays that a woman could make right well she could grow out her

00:26:39.660 nails super long she could grow super long hair yeah okay think about the trashy low-class women who like

00:26:47.740 trashy low-class men like they've got these super long nails they've got these super large butt displays

00:26:53.080 they've got these really long hair oh no and then consider the type of woman that say like elon goes

00:27:02.200 after like a grimes or something like that you know you're looking at a smaller breast shorter hair

00:27:07.980 more of a sort of like i i guess i i'd say the the really really classy look which can come off as a

00:27:17.720 little boyish and has throughout recent history the the very very like wealthy high-end woman

00:27:24.600 typically comes off as a little puckish i guess is the word i'd use you know i'm thinking puck from the

00:27:31.780 you know the the play right like oh yeah yeah and if you look at and play amid summer night's dream

00:27:40.500 yes marry a woman who or go after a woman who doesn't look puckish it immediately other people

00:27:47.660 call it out they're like that is low class or weird looking right like when you see jeff bezos

00:27:54.440 who's his current partner who looks like a street walking prostitute you immediately look at this and

00:28:00.500 you're like something is something is off about that but consider that jeff bezos is also breaking the

00:28:07.980 other norm that we typically see with wealthy men which is he is not going after the more elite

00:28:13.540 vampire look either he's going after the buff weightlifter look if you look at another person

00:28:19.620 who breaks this trend very famously is donald trump right like he doesn't break it as extremely as jeff

00:28:24.940 bezos does but a lot of people comment that donald trump is a poor person's idea of what a rich person

00:28:30.600 wants to be like right like and i think that he's that way and everything from the way he architecturally

00:28:35.340 does his house to the way that he does anything else right but yeah and this this i think shows

00:28:44.220 an instinctual reaction of other people that oh they don't really fit the pattern but if you imagine

00:28:50.060 like a a bruce wayne gala or something like that right and i've been to lots of like charity galas and

00:28:56.580 stuff like that it is very common among upper class women to accentuate sort of short hair is very common

00:29:04.280 among upper class hairstyles in fact it wasn't until we started appealing to a mainstream conservative

00:29:09.800 audience that simone grew out her hair before that because the core audience we were everyone knows

00:29:15.560 we did the circuit on like the secret societies and all of that it was fairly rare in those events for

00:29:21.880 women to have longer hair and so you know fitting in that's the crowd that we're into it i personally

00:29:27.000 find shorter hair more attractive on women she kept her hair shorter and then when we went to

00:29:33.160 other like when we started appealing to you guys who was it brian johnson was like you should grow out

00:29:37.980 your hair to appeal to it more standard brian brian caplan brian caplan yeah brian johnson don't die

00:29:45.440 brian caplan selfish reasons to have more kids immigration is good okay okay so i'm pointing out that yes our

00:29:52.780 image is tailored for you guys i'm about to do a major image change which i'm excited about as soon as

00:29:56.580 the stuff gets in from etsy to fit simone's more medieval style i've learned and this is really sad

00:30:02.000 i thought about doing an entire episode on it is that my look right now which is sort of the i call

00:30:06.720 it the mr rogers look which is just the the nice normal guy look better unfortunately it's been co-opted

00:30:14.220 by lesbians and i get too many comments how dare they they also took the leather jacket oh yeah so i also

00:30:23.020 wear the leather jacket co-opted by a lesbian you can't wear a leather jacket anymore you can't wear

00:30:27.180 a sweater anymore like what can you wear honestly i was trying to come off as is is is just like the

00:30:33.580 nice dad look right like the mr rogers look right yeah no without looking dumpy or sports fanny

00:30:40.700 i think is the one who messed it all up you know crew cut sweater you know glasses everyone just

00:30:48.300 immediately is like oh not mr rogers you're ellen degenerate i was thinking more who's the woman who

00:30:55.200 is sure about russia gate rachel maddow oh that's why i was thinking rachel maddow well ellen is ellen

00:31:01.540 degenerate another one who does that look kind of yeah yeah i i was thinking rachel maddow in my head

00:31:07.980 when i said that yeah chunky glasses and his short hair absolutely like if i squint it it looks a

00:31:16.200 little a little malchemy but the point that i'm making here is that this exaggerated like gender

00:31:25.180 display is something that like societally we've known for a long time poor people prefer exaggerated

00:31:32.060 gender dimorphic figures and wealthy people of both genders prefer more androgynous features

00:31:39.060 and this could be an overlap like women accidentally

00:31:43.120 displaying part of the male a very interesting thing we did in our study on this is how much

00:31:50.040 people of each gender get turned on imagining themselves as the opposite gender and wealthy women

00:31:58.080 very frequently get turned on by imagining themselves that's true that did show up in our

00:32:02.340 survey data that really surprised me yeah interestingly poor males frequently get turned

00:32:08.640 on by imagining themselves as females so just fun data stuff here i just love science i love it i love

00:32:14.560 the data it's fun it's fun to think about like why why do you see this weird pattern why do you see

00:32:18.720 this weird pattern and as we've pointed out before having one of these networks where like you're in the

00:32:24.840 network and now all of a sudden you can't tell anyone and you feel you have some sort of a

00:32:29.240 connection with everyone else in this network even if you were brought into it sort of

00:32:32.420 clandestinely well now all of a sudden you have reasons to do like if you meet someone in public

00:32:37.920 right somebody comes up for a job or an appointment or something and you've got one of two names

00:32:43.040 one of them you know from your parties one of them you don't know from your parties you pick the

00:32:47.740 name you know from your parties because that's safer right yeah everyone prefers a known entity

00:32:52.700 trust isn't necessarily about liking it's about predicting and the more exposure you have to

00:32:58.380 someone typically the more you can predict them and therefore all of a sudden everyone in this

00:33:03.000 wider network moves up moves up moves up moves up um now let's talk about the torture stuff right

00:33:08.960 this this is interesting as well yeah this was another thing that we found in terms of wealthy

00:33:13.600 people wealthy high power men had more in terms of the aggression dominance pathway of arousal which

00:33:20.860 makes sense you know you you're more likely to be a raider which is where that pathway is most

00:33:26.380 relevant one of the things you need to remember about somebody because what the i really like the

00:33:31.420 torture videos that freaked a lot of people out right because they were like why is this name

00:33:34.580 blacked out still like we should we be looking into this and then people looked at who could it

00:33:38.600 possibly be there are three real candidates based on the time that the center of that was in china

00:33:43.880 oh yeah because the email didn't include something about like see you in china or it was great

00:33:48.020 in china now i'm coming back to the u.s on these days the the one of them was like a conservative

00:33:53.340 like lindsey graham or something but he has no connection to epstein so unlikely another one was

00:33:58.000 some uk politician the one who stepped down maybe which one who stepped down i i i think the most likely

00:34:05.740 one was bill gates and i recall there was some other email where they were like was thinking about

00:34:12.220 inviting blanked out name to epstein island but basically like they lack the discretion or

00:34:17.620 emotional intelligence or something like which could be the same person who was like oh like

00:34:22.280 the torture video and like i think maybe it they yeah they had to kind of be careful about

00:34:28.380 island where we do the you know beep yeah

00:34:33.980 it immediately getting on air like going up like kid rock did after going to the bohemian grove

00:34:45.020 i remember i'm always very buttoned about the bohemian grove he immediately does like this huge

00:34:50.160 speech about the bohemian grove for like vanity fair or something like immediately oh he went straight

00:34:55.680 to the mainstream media about it might have been what is that rolling stones it might have been like a

00:35:00.060 rolling stones it's like did you not like get any of the memos about this i'm sure he was very

00:35:06.520 enthused to never be invited back though so he was no he got super um i can't tell any of the

00:35:13.700 stories about what happened to him there uh no he was not interested in not being invited back um okay

00:35:20.500 uh drama i i'll point it this way if you guys are like the drama was not about anything sexual

00:35:30.260 it is not about anything that you the general public would find scandalous it is about i wish i could say

00:35:36.940 it because it's so comedic to a mainstream conservative audience you'd be like wait that's what caused drama

00:35:43.520 there damn malcolm i i i tease us how do i i think in high society when you're used to hanging out with

00:35:53.620 a lot of low society conservatives you can forget how many there are but and oh no that can cause

00:36:02.220 drama i i gotta cut that out i can't have that in there that's way too specific god oh man that makes

00:36:09.640 sense though but the point being is is at the grove itself none of this stuff is happening it's

00:36:18.520 oh and i even got up only i'll describe like what does actually happen at the grove i got into with

00:36:27.960 a number of people on like the top council to grove like we got together and we planned a prank

00:36:32.540 together so this is like me pranking with top people at the grove and we dressed up as deer

00:36:39.220 and went through where there's like security camera footage area like like hunting cams or animal cams

00:36:45.600 no no it was like the the cams for like people trying to sneak into the park or something to

00:36:50.600 like mess with like the guards or whatever this is this is the type of it's the type of prank

00:36:56.820 that somebody in a 1920s or 30s secret society on like harvard would have thought was or like boy

00:37:05.320 scouts that's it's like it's a little it's a little too adorable it's yeah it is it is a it is

00:37:11.360 adorable old man pranks because that's what it is it's a place full of old men no that's too wholesome

00:37:17.180 it is it is not whatever you're imagining it i mean obviously there's a lot of gay stuff that goes

00:37:23.780 on there that's been reported since what what president reported that nixon so i'm not leaking

00:37:28.740 that yeah nixon but like that makes sense when you have a bunch of like wealthy conservatives meeting

00:37:34.500 in in secret that's without their wives yeah yeah so that is that is the as far as the salaciousness

00:37:43.460 of environments like that go they are not these terrible horrible things and keep in mind on the

00:37:50.200 kid rock stuff that i mentioned anything i heard there was just hearsay i don't know idea of it

00:37:53.900 directly so you know don't even say oh this definitely happened it's allegedly allegedly

00:37:58.580 allegedly allegedly the rumors the the the the point i am making is that you can build these networks that

00:38:07.160 are like actually secret like the epstein network actually doing bad things and these can be used to

00:38:12.120 skyrocket the career of everyone involved with these networks we use this to explain in an episode that

00:38:17.000 we had to do for fans only because they had audio issues in the second part why the trump administration

00:38:21.420 is has so many gay conservatives in it there was a quote from like a conservative female influencer

00:38:27.220 that was like oh i was really excited to hook my friends up with some new incoming members of the

00:38:31.200 administration you know now they're gay and they are all gay that's happened because you can get sort

00:38:39.120 of these networks where well we all know each other from the gay party and we have some degree of

00:38:43.060 solidarity and you know you get invited to the party and yeah so yeah well i think a key distinguishing

00:38:49.780 factor i think between elite social networks that are innocuous or just coordinating and maybe a little

00:38:58.340 bit insider trading-y but not super evil demonic is how the influence is built they're sort of the carrot

00:39:08.140 and the stick and epstein definitely built a stick-based network built around blackmail or

00:39:14.220 literally implicating people in things that were and we see in the latest leak him threatening people

00:39:19.740 with leaks yeah that they're yeah he's he's threatening people with stuff that could get them

00:39:24.460 in like ruin their reputation which i mean bill gates spent what billions of dollars on his public

00:39:30.300 right yeah trying to look like a good boy through his philanthropic work can you imagine how much money he

00:39:34.540 spent how much effort he spent to try to look like a decent human being to the general public and i'm

00:39:39.420 like simone it's always the people who are at their core actually pretty evil who do that i was like

00:39:43.980 someone one of our core jobs in terms of media and everything like that is playing the villain

00:39:49.420 and yet so much more fun that way oh this town isn't big enough for two super villains oh you're a

00:39:57.020 villain all right just not a super one yeah what's the difference

00:40:06.540 presentation like we don't have these big skeletons in our closet or anything like that

00:40:11.260 like i find the thought of sleeping with a hooker like actively disgusting right like

00:40:16.540 it's not that i wouldn't sleep with another woman she would just be a wealthy powerful woman

00:40:21.180 if i did like if i was going to cheat on my wife i just don't want to see her virgin

00:40:26.140 yeah yeah i don't want to sleep with low-class women right yeah well you also just seem to have

00:40:30.540 an aversion to body count which i think is is probably the primary reason that's another thing

00:40:34.940 i have a big yeah and that like that's that's just an aversion that some men have which just mean that

00:40:41.820 like no matter how powerful a man gets i think that there is going to be a certain number which

00:40:46.540 actually could be another reason why a common denominator did end up being young women was that

00:40:55.180 those were like they at least looked less past lower body count yeah so yeah so if there were men

00:41:00.620 there who like maybe there were men who were super attracted to extra young looking women maybe there

00:41:05.180 were also men there who were like really against what appeared to be high body count call girls even

00:41:10.940 if they were very elite right so like it could be just a good you know like at a party you might

00:41:18.380 choose to serve salsa and chips because everyone likes salsa and chips like it's inoffensive who's

00:41:24.700 gonna hate it right and and maybe you know chips that they're the they're the chips and salsas of girls

00:41:30.860 because you know one of the points i was making here that's important to remember is the torture thing

00:41:36.940 right like people are like oh you know the torture video is great i'll never get over that bill gates

00:41:43.820 why would he be into something like that right you know are you so sure allegedly what why is your

00:41:50.060 guess which is completely based on nothing and we're not saying anything about bill gates don't come for us

00:41:54.540 why do you think bill gates is a candidate because we have the times that he was in china and the timing

00:42:00.940 that he was coming back oh okay wait so yeah you said there were three people so it was bill gates the the

00:42:05.580 uk politician or one random conservative politician in the u.s who has no known connection to epstein so

00:42:10.700 i can basically rule him out okay so it's basically either bill gates or this uk politician oh ouch

00:42:17.340 or you could argue if it was just some rando who you know no or you could argue if it was one of them

00:42:24.220 then why did all the other embarrassing stuff about them get released it was somebody who has the ability

00:42:27.980 to still keep their name covered up it's so good for them but but the point being is that a lot of

00:42:32.860 these people like you're bill gates of the world you know their ancestors who raided and pillage

00:42:37.900 still had more surviving offspring than the ones who didn't like i think yeah people get very blinded

00:42:44.060 by the nerdy look or even nerdy affectation like glasses like people think oh this means that i

00:42:49.740 would i point out that i actually phenotypically look like clavicular yeah like if you look at my actual

00:42:56.380 face without glasses i look like i could be related to cavicular right i wear glasses specifically to

00:43:04.940 hide that i look like this okay my audience and my branding is nerd i don't want to look like this

00:43:13.900 in my nerd branding i'm an anime guy okay who reads korean mangas about the historic romances right like

00:43:22.380 i don't want to to look like that or or jump out with that brand my brand is wholesome dad right or

00:43:29.260 or weird nerdy guy by the way if you are one of our paid subscribers on subsec or patreon you can

00:43:34.620 get malcolm's full list of recommended korean romance manga on webtoons so you don't have to look for

00:43:41.580 yourself you can you can just go to that but what i'm putting is a lot of people see a quick stereotype

00:43:47.100 in somebody like bill gates and they assume oh his ancestors wouldn't have had these evolutionary

00:43:52.380 pressures on them or had these kinds of preferences built in into sort of the genetic

00:43:57.020 lottery but also like anyone who's read a bill gates biography knows that he's he's famously quite

00:44:01.900 aggressive actually but i don't know why people well a lot of because he'll wear like a sweater vest and

00:44:08.220 he looks a little dumpy again it's it's it's branding right like it's it's branding as not an aggressive

00:44:15.100 person if you look at elon's old branding for example like not not elon circa 2026 but elon

00:44:22.460 circa let's say 2015 he looked incredibly nerdy except this was the period where he was having

00:44:28.460 fistfights with his brother in like the middle of the office right like people are very bad at at

00:44:34.620 judging phenotypical aggression in males when basically glasses or stereotypes come into the picture

00:44:42.860 um which i think is is is one of the flaws on the right you can't judge a lot about a person from

00:44:48.540 their face we've gone over this look at our video chronology is back baby but you have to be able to

00:44:53.660 edit out the glasses or the sweater before you make that judgment and a lot of people just really

00:44:59.180 struggle to do that yeah i i'm really excited i haven't done the research yet but i'm really excited

00:45:04.300 to look into this to see if there's some portion of the population that literally you know that

00:45:10.460 those disguise costumes it's like a fake nose and glasses that look like these and a mustache

00:45:16.300 if like that actually works on a certain portion of the population like where did he go how like you

00:45:22.220 know when you put a mask on in front of a toddler they're like where's my mom you know they just freak

00:45:27.660 out i feel like some people maybe never lose that or they never develop i remember the first time one of

00:45:32.220 our infants saw me was wet hair and they absolutely freaked out lost their minds yes

00:45:39.420 yeah deformed version of daddy but the final thing i want to go into here is the pizza labels

00:45:46.140 because i think that we may have discounted a previous instance that we can't really talk about

00:45:51.020 that much a little too out of hand but i can't talk about it at all might do it on a weekend episode

00:45:56.540 yeah but these these are from the epstein files and a lot of people know that pizza is alleged to be

00:46:02.700 used in some pda file rings as code for children specifically cheese pizza yeah well what's important

00:46:11.260 to note is cheese pizza actually doesn't appear once in the epstein files yeah and so the thought is maybe

00:46:15.900 it stands instead for paid sex workers instead of well he would use the words pizza and grape soda

00:46:24.620 uh frequently which is weird because nobody has pizza and grape soda at a party well it's weird

00:46:29.180 like i i don't i don't know when i've last seen grape soda in a in a grocery store it didn't occur to

00:46:37.580 me until i was going through this i was like why is he using grape soda as the code word and i was like oh

00:46:44.620 yeah whatever we talk about r on youtube we always have to call it grape that's what he's talking about

00:46:52.380 he's talking about someone they can grape but let's go over this where are they getting it like

00:46:57.820 if they if they actually were getting any this is better than a chinese cookie exclamation mark

00:47:03.020 see attached let's go for pizza and grape soda again no one else can understand go no no that is not

00:47:11.660 what you say about pizza real pizza that doesn't no that's not no yeah if you're if you're gushing about

00:47:19.020 it you're like man zachary's deep dish is unbelievable the sauce i don't know what they

00:47:23.580 put in it but it's probably yeah you would talk about something about the pizza that made it yeah

00:47:28.380 the best crust ever i think it's just pie crust with like you know you wouldn't just say pizza and

00:47:34.700 grape soda again okay let's go further spoof on chandelier the video i sent you with the amazing

00:47:41.820 little girl dance is what this is titled totally loved it this might be another tone deaf person

00:47:50.540 so the the video in the title of this email the video i sent you about the amazing little girl dance

00:47:57.580 totally loved it and this isn't a reply to it by the way dot dot dot pizza party was great exclamation

00:48:04.300 mark we had a lot of fun stayed late we all slept in yesterday morning your night was good

00:48:11.900 so he stayed over after a pizza party with a bunch of wealthy people

00:48:21.500 i don't think so no no no okay next here pizza time exclamation mark thank you we love to have

00:48:31.500 blink with us he is too cute exclamation mark exclamation mark have a great week xoxo

00:48:38.700 thanks for taking the boys for pizza blank was sad he had to leave the fun hope you have a great

00:48:45.900 time skiing be safe well that sounds i mean taking the boys for pizza that sounds like something

00:48:52.540 this sounds a soccer mom would do you know that that one i'm okay with plausible yeah the other one

00:49:00.380 but i like that we can say that like the other ones seem implausible this one seems plausible actually

00:49:04.460 yeah yeah yeah like i mean there's some things in the past that we cannot refer to

00:49:09.740 about like say pizza related you you forgot your pizza related map you know there are certain things

00:49:15.580 that just don't make sense but there are other things that i'm like yeah that's normal like pizza

00:49:21.980 discussed in relation to a soccer game totally plausible pizza and soccer are like socks and shoes but

00:49:29.500 other things here and then there's a lot where you can't tell pizza and chandeliers no he said

00:49:37.660 chandeliers and little girls no they don't go together they don't go together no and you see

00:49:43.660 this everywhere it's in the it's in the files 911 times yeah and again like in in my inbox

00:49:51.100 it's not there it's it's only there if like someone else emails me

00:49:54.300 about it or if i mentioned it in the one literal birthday party invite we send out in relation to

00:50:01.900 a six-year-old let's go for pizza and grape soda you know pizza and grape soda tomorrow to get pizza

00:50:08.060 and grape soda you can pick me up tomorrow at 8 18 pm after you use them wash your hands and let's get

00:50:17.900 pizza and grape soda wash your hands after you use them referring to pizza as a them and wash your

00:50:28.380 hands and who starts a pizza night at 8 11 pm okay a lot of people eat late a lot of people eat late

00:50:37.020 i'm sure if we looked at like the order rates of of pizza restaurants i'm not worried about the time

00:50:43.980 you and i i know our bedtime is at 8 30. that's not everyone's bedtime so what i take away from all of

00:50:50.940 this is it not a connection to anything like the the ping pong and all of that nonsense right actually

00:50:58.140 i'll even take that out the the asteroid flatbread with tomato sauce on it venue yes the nothing nothing

00:51:09.420 about that particular part of said conspiracy but the wider idea that pizza is used in some elite

00:51:18.700 context with this other meaning i think is pretty much hard confirmed at this point and now that this

00:51:27.100 is confirmed do we need to look at past instances with new glasses i think so but i think at the same

00:51:35.260 time it's important to not get stupid about this stuff we still don't have really good evidence people

00:51:41.820 were tortured we don't have evidence of cannibalism we don't have evidence of babies we don't have

00:51:47.260 evidence of a lot of them even even the prince andrew we we know he was involved we know that there's a

00:51:55.660 weird picture of him over a girl which is like compromising but not even that sexual like well i think a lot

00:52:01.180 of it just it gets it gets so overblown like we're not we're not harvesting adrenaline from people

00:52:07.020 but we i mean one like there's a party on a college campus people are sleeping together it gets a little

00:52:13.100 out of hand sometimes you know people break some furniture of course that's going to happen you know

00:52:19.100 at any party that runs late gets raucous you know has people getting all riled up so stuff's going to

00:52:25.500 happen you know you get people together and they're celebrating people are going to end up sleeping

00:52:29.260 together like it just happens so of course of course that happened it's no surprise and then and also

00:52:35.580 it's really really well documented and well known completely independent of epstein that that there are

00:52:42.300 that wherever you find rich people you are going to find attractive young women who will just show up

00:52:48.940 because they are happy to go to a club or a yacht or a fancy hotel or fancy venue and have things be

00:52:57.660 paid for and to be around wealthy and famous people even for zero compensation yeah and that just happens

00:53:05.740 so yes i mean it's it's like well where where there is you know stagnant water you're gonna find bacteria

00:53:12.940 growing where there are wealthy people hanging out in leisure time you're going to find young sexually

00:53:19.180 available women like i i just you know so some of this it's obvious of course we don't have to deny

00:53:23.980 that and this is now just confirming more of it and i i don't think it helps us to overreach right like

00:53:29.900 i would love it if zorhan mandami was actually tied up with epstein that would make my effing day

00:53:35.820 but i but i you know i it seems very i would be honestly surprised if it didn't turn out that he's

00:53:41.420 just in a monocomous really relationship with his hot artsy wife because i she's i would be surprised

00:53:48.380 about that oh you think they're poly oh at least he lives in new york but it's time for that he seems

00:53:55.100 actually busy literally in in manhattan the chance if you are a wealthy couple that you are monogamous

00:54:02.540 is i'd say one in four yeah if you but no he's also very busy if you're poly it's because you're

00:54:09.580 literally not investing in your not if you're high enough power to basically command sex from people

00:54:14.860 you're you're thinking that he's like no but the stakes are high in in progressive circles especially

00:54:22.140 oh i guess you're right yeah like the the risk to him is both too high plus i again do not think

00:54:27.740 he has the time for it so no i i think of of anyone that you've discussed today mom donnie is the most

00:54:34.780 likely to be in a monogamous straight relationship he is muslim you know they do they do like their

00:54:42.700 multiple wives but again just from a as a progressive

00:54:49.580 he he he basically can't sleep with other women outside his marriage unless he's super super open

00:54:55.500 about being poly without someone being like and then he slept with me like just the the the points

00:55:02.460 you get okay for essentially attacking him by consensually engaging the point i'm making here

00:55:09.180 is we don't have good evidence on that no we don't have good evidence on elon we don't have

00:55:13.900 good evidence in fact i'm just with my personal experiences i would say with almost certainty and

00:55:20.700 how hard he fought to get the files released that there elon did not go to those parties but no one's

00:55:27.020 no one's saying he did no a lot of people are saying he did he says in one of the emails

00:55:31.740 what day is the wildest party going to be on the island a lot of people take that as confirmation

00:55:36.780 that he showed up on that day but he has been so proud about outwitting epstein in his mind like

00:55:44.780 why would he have that pride if he didn't outwit epstein why would he have fought for this if there

00:55:50.460 was something genuinely compromising on him he might forget that he had said oh i'll show up one time

00:55:56.380 he wouldn't forget if he actually showed up at one of these parties well i think it's also important

00:56:01.020 to remember that if you like a good party you're probably going to be fairly agnostic about like

00:56:08.220 whose parties you're interested in showing up to one of the first things that elon musk did again

00:56:13.340 just like looking at his his biographies that i've read when he was the first time he had wealth was

00:56:19.180 start throwing insane parties he is a connoisseur of insane parties yeah he literally like

00:56:24.940 like almost killed himself like doing like sumo wrestler fighting at one of his parties i mean

00:56:31.500 he does he does great parties yeah yeah but the outside of of of that also nothing new really bad

00:56:37.500 on trump except for random accusations that like unconfirmed the the one person who just absolutely

00:56:44.140 torpedoed by this who hadn't been torpedoed bill gates rest in peace reputation he's bill gates you

00:56:50.140 you of your reputation and history you should have sided with the bad guys if you just played

00:56:55.900 the villain like us and you know who else you should have just stopped up on antibiotics and like i don't

00:57:01.340 know giving you apple plays the villain to an extent as well but he likes press coverage more than than we

00:57:09.500 do because he's he's pressured so much by his companies yesterday the new york times did another piece

00:57:15.580 he's featuring us and i had given her so many quotes she could use to make us look bad like we

00:57:21.260 don't want to drag progressive women to mar-a-lago breeding pits those are the exact type of woman we're

00:57:27.340 glad won't exist in the future but i was like of course she's gonna use that no she uses a bunch of benign

00:57:32.860 quotes you know you can't control when they're gonna make you look like a villain right i really

00:57:37.020 want to i want to get mar-a-lago breeding pits in the new york times that's one of my goals for 2026

00:57:43.900 so i'm here you guys can help your vision board oh my vision board i want new york times to title

00:57:50.220 an article women pro natalist leader women dragged to mar-a-lago breeding pits love you

00:57:57.900 to death simone this was frustrating for me to research because i expected a lot more salaciousness

00:58:03.340 than i actually got but i mean not that the bill gates thing wasn't great it's just everybody found

00:58:07.980 that immediately and i think it opens up some old questions i think that's the biggest takeaway

00:58:13.740 from this but yeah people be gross surprise surprise and it makes me grateful that i don't have

00:58:24.140 these skeletons in my closet yeah which is just like i don't yeah i'm lucky that i have such an aversion

00:58:33.260 to like women with high body counts or like incompetent women that like i need to respect a

00:58:39.020 woman to find her attractive oh isn't there some kind of like really progressive word for that

00:58:44.220 i don't know demisexual or something yeah oh god are you dummy sexual gross well i don't think so

00:58:51.100 because it's not my like default it's just like if it's if it's a real person i i don't know it's like

00:58:57.340 i don't want to stick it in a trash can like you know i i i see little there are lots of incredible

00:59:05.420 people in like a used nappy like there are lots of incredible high body count people

00:59:11.420 who just happen to enjoy sex it's just you have you have a would i sleep with him no

00:59:19.580 people are like why why does simone not mind malcolm being alone and like such good friends with ayla and

00:59:25.420 it's like she knows i wouldn't do that it's like not my thing yeah it's just it's one of those things

00:59:33.980 like some people are just really turned off by like big boobs and some people are really turned

00:59:39.740 off by small boobs mouth who's just really turned off by high body counts it's not a judgment on those

00:59:44.780 people but it protects me from this nonsense yeah anyway love you interesting conversation you have

00:59:52.300 any final thoughts on this oh any any change in the way you see the world after this you know i think

00:59:58.060 what bothers me the most about this especially when the conversation turns to things like child

01:00:02.220 sacrifice and actual non-consensual relations slavery etc trying to move around these words

01:00:10.060 these are rampant and actual and very real problems in the world that i would really like to see end

01:00:15.580 i mean just just normal not just women enslaved but men enslaved too you know forced into years of

01:00:22.460 service on shrimping ships you know like well i mean horrible work where they'll just die slavery

01:00:28.140 are common across africa exactly not just africa either like people are being children are being

01:00:35.180 killed children are being enslaved women and men are being enslaved oh but we're not trying to address

01:00:40.940 that no no no no we're just talking about like the 15 people who got pulled into men also like this is

01:00:48.380 all you know they're this stuff is happening and we can probably do stuff about it but we're not

01:00:54.940 because we're too busy talking about this thing that happened in the past it's probably not even

01:00:58.780 happening anymore among these elite people and that we we people are buying the shrimp that is being

01:01:07.500 caught by slaves you know what i mean okay i hear what you're saying but i also think that the people who

01:01:12.860 participate in this sort of debauch stuff shouldn't be running society and i don't mind if more of it

01:01:18.940 gets aired out i think that no i mean yeah it no i don't care who is is perpetrating the crime it's

01:01:25.660 super not okay but also like when it comes to the stuff in here that i don't actually think is happening

01:01:30.940 like be children being killed that does bother me because children are being killed and oh by the

01:01:38.700 the way final point on this before we close out yeah i still think that we have very hard evidence

01:01:44.140 that epstein was an intelligence asset he was literally called an asset by people in intelligence

01:01:49.820 in one of the like i think he played all sides i think he just he couldn't come across an opportunity

01:01:58.060 that he wouldn't exploit he couldn't help himself yeah he was like a savant for it like he was swindling

01:02:04.460 using double timing and feeding information to absolutely everyone he was incredibly like

01:02:11.500 genius level good at it and that was his like special interest that's it that was what he did

01:02:18.780 you're downplaying the epstein thing like people like bill gates should still face accountability and

01:02:25.100 we know they won't right like we're in this position in society now where we know that the only legacy

01:02:31.100 the only accountability he will face is to his legacy and public perception and it is also really

01:02:36.220 gross to me that completely unconfirmed and what what is illegal that he did if if everything is true

01:02:44.780 right nothing that we have confirmation of but i think an investigation should happen like i i think

01:02:52.460 that we now okay so so out of one side of your mouth you criticize the fact that bdsm content is illegal

01:02:58.380 in the uk and then off the other side of your mouth you're like oh well we should investigate

01:03:03.100 bill gates for allegedly potentially maybe what we know is that he had real connections to epstein

01:03:09.820 and was doing stuff at epstein parties right given everything else we know about these parties

01:03:15.900 that to me seems like enough evidence to be like we should be doing more research into this and i

01:03:21.020 think it's really unfair what i've seen in the public commentary to group something where now we

01:03:27.100 have more smoking gun like bill gates was completely non-smoking guns like zorhan mondani and elon and

01:03:33.260 trump ah yeah i mean yeah it it is frustrating that at the very least the argument that i've seen a lot of

01:03:44.860 people like aspengold make is we need these files released because i want to see these wealthy people be

01:03:52.300 held accountable and now files are being released and they will be no one's being held accountable

01:03:57.980 and that is almost worse than the files not being released and that yeah it just shows what everybody

01:04:03.580 knew that our society is controlled by a bunch of but the major leaks that we dropped there was some

01:04:08.700 new stuff on bill clinton but everybody knows he's a dirtbag there was howard lutnik stuff but who cares

01:04:17.660 commerce secretary peter mendelson the ex uk ambassador this is the other person who the

01:04:23.180 torture video could have been about other than epstein he left the labor party after this he wasn't

01:04:29.740 by the way expelled which is surprising but everybody knows that every progressive of the uk is a child

01:04:36.220 grape except for the bbc stuff they just that's a normal that's been normal in the uk is being

01:04:42.460 evil leftist i do not even know how people in the uk live with themselves marit merent this is the

01:04:49.580 norway crown princess nobody cares it's a hereditary position with no real power but yeah those are the

01:04:55.740 other big ones but the second thing here is i want when you're reading these files and you're like

01:05:02.460 random nobody accuses epstein of x after epstein is famous again remember that we are looking at these

01:05:10.060 accusations from the perspective of people who are accused of practicing dark magic on the

01:05:14.540 number one podcast in the world right like we know what it's like to be in the public spotlight

01:05:21.180 random people will make stuff up about you these accusations do not really matter unless they're

01:05:26.060 coming from somebody who would have something to lose by making up these accusations about you

01:05:32.220 anyway love you to that's the mom love you too or or your own text which that's where the the

01:05:39.660 the the bill gates ones become credible yeah unless i don't know how long the email chain goes if

01:05:47.260 there's an immediate response from him who always like i don't know what you're talking about it's

01:05:50.860 really clear they could try to blackmail me with this email chain like what on earth are you doing

01:05:56.940 i mean because so i'm just saying you know you never know but okay i i love you to destemone you're

01:06:03.740 amazing and tonight pizza cheese pizza uh one of the little brown ones if you could get those for me

01:06:10.140 you know we uh i hate you oh oh wait mr dinosaur

01:06:20.940 friend little green man

01:06:23.820 anyway how were people in the comments the video completely bombed i'm sorry about that

01:06:33.500 i didn't get to the comments yet today no it's okay you were really busy you handling

01:06:38.140 infants with medical issues and homeschooling boys and groceries and chickens and emails and investor

01:06:46.220 requests and i did the ai influencer outreach too again some people already got back simone

01:06:54.780 i we just have to we have to triage right and doing the right stuff gotta move our fab forward

01:06:59.820 because that's most likely to be a source of income anyway i will get started

01:07:07.980 to do it again

01:07:08.700 so let me turn it and jump again we have to see how far you can jump

01:07:25.260 octavian you do it

01:07:31.580 you didn't even jump you waited until after the door to jump

01:07:38.700 you're going to create the bottom layer this one should be pretty easy to jump over okay

01:07:50.460 indy no

01:07:53.260 okay octavian can you jump over that that's the goal

01:08:14.780 good good job

01:08:16.060 well

01:08:26.060 now i'm going to make

01:08:29.820 Very good.

Based Camp - February 03, 2026

Why Did Epstein's System Work？ (The Science + Fact Checking)

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