Blood Satellite - BSNL#10： Sargooner ANSWERS the Woman Question (feat. Meta Prime)

00:00:00.000 Startin' over won't be easy, broken, divided, split, tomorrow from today

00:00:20.000 Knowin' what you know just makes it harder to think straight

00:00:26.000 Starting over after it breaks

00:00:28.980 Starting over when the story's got an astounding twist

00:00:35.380 You better turn that page

00:00:37.900 When push it comes to shove

00:00:40.860 We do not fall out of love

00:00:42.940 We double down

00:00:44.600 We do not fade

00:00:46.140 For all I know

00:00:48.400 This might be my last night

00:00:54.960 That's how it goes

00:00:57.200 There's no one I would rather be lying beside

00:01:03.500 We're all gone scratching

00:01:05.660 We're all gone scratching

00:01:14.420 We're all gone scratching

00:01:16.500 We're all gone scratching

00:01:21.420 Starting over won't be easy, damage be damned

00:01:25.420 Please say you love me just as I am

00:01:30.420 Starting over won't be easy, misunderstand

00:01:34.420 That pride and fear is force in your hand

00:01:38.420 Knowing what you know just makes it harder to think straight

00:01:43.420 Starting over after it all breaks

00:01:47.420 When pressure comes to shove, we do not fall out of love

00:01:51.960 We double down, we do not fade

00:01:55.300 For all I know

00:01:57.660 This might be my last night

00:02:04.120 That's how it goes

00:02:06.500 There's no one I would rather be lying beside

00:02:12.540 If all we knew

00:02:17.420 I've been crashing down tonight

00:02:21.420 I'd be with you

00:02:24.420 And there's no one

00:02:26.420 I would bother you tying this side

00:02:31.420 When it all comes crashing

00:02:33.420 All comes crashing down

00:02:40.420 When it all comes crashing

00:02:42.420 All comes crashing down

00:02:47.420 This might be my last night

00:03:15.300 If that's how it goes

00:03:17.800 There's no one I would rather be lying beside

00:03:23.940 If all we knew

00:03:26.300 Came crashing down

00:03:30.600 Tonight I'd be with you

00:03:35.000 And there's no one I would rather be dying beside

00:03:41.300 If it all comes crashing

00:03:45.300 We're all going to crash

00:03:52.140 We're all going to crash

00:04:00.820 We're all going to crash

00:04:00.860 You wanted this

00:04:14.940 So sad to see

00:04:20.460 The sweet decay

00:04:26.160 Of ecstasy

00:04:32.340 And you want it all

00:04:49.580 And you want it all

00:04:54.620 A frozen sun

00:05:02.440 Would guide you there

00:05:08.540 As shadows hide

00:05:14.640 The deep despair

00:05:20.260 And you want it all

00:05:30.620 And you want it all

00:05:42.640 I'll give you something more

00:05:50.260 Here's the fade away

00:05:53.980 One last kiss before

00:05:59.560 You fade away

00:06:20.260 So sleep tonight, in idle dreams, the pain will drown, your silent screams.

00:06:50.260 And you want it all

00:06:54.140 And you want it all

00:07:06.560 I'll give you something more

00:07:11.820 And you'll fade away

00:07:20.260 One last kiss before

00:07:24.380 You fade away

00:07:30.520 The eyes you once adore

00:07:35.960 Will fade away

00:07:42.460 The eyes you can't ignore

00:07:48.380 Yes, do it, babe

00:07:54.280 As you fade away

00:08:00.320 As you fade away

00:08:18.380 As you fade away

00:08:24.380 As you fade away

00:08:36.380 As you fade away 1.00

00:08:48.380 I love this shit. 1.00

00:09:18.380 Well, well, well, well, well, well, 1.00

00:09:48.380 We

00:09:53.380 Spun like birds on a fire ride

00:09:56.380 Down towards the residence

00:09:58.380 And I

00:09:59.380 I took all that I desired

00:10:02.380 Even croaks have to be the ranch 0.86

00:10:05.380 We swam like rats on a fire ride

00:10:08.380 Right down the reservoir

00:10:12.380 We took all that we could carry

00:10:14.380 But we tried to carry more

00:10:17.380 And you know, you know, you know, it all went wrong

00:10:23.380 And you know, you know, you know, it was all wrong

00:10:47.380 We choked on a straight tap water

00:10:55.760 Well, I'm gonna have to try the real thing

00:10:58.420 I took your lap by the car

00:11:01.660 And you knew not to sway

00:11:03.780 Anytime I tried an almost job

00:11:07.200 I'm away to tell how to hold it 0.97

00:11:10.520 We laughed about being red 0.67

00:11:13.200 Cause the county jail's death-free

00:11:15.700 You know, you know, you know it was all wrong

00:11:20.740 You know, you know, you know it was all wrong

00:11:45.700 Deep water, deep water

00:11:54.160 Since there's been now

00:11:56.100 Powered down like a red dog

00:11:59.920 Ready with child

00:12:02.060 Well, deep water, deep water

00:12:05.920 Still moved to town

00:12:07.900 Powered down like a red dog

00:12:11.760 Yeah, who would child

00:12:13.660 Well, oh, lucky, lucky, lucky, lucky me again

00:12:16.960 I said it looks like it's time to use my feet again

00:12:20.040 I just spent my last $100

00:12:22.080 God, I'll bare my bed again

00:12:24.640 Oh, it's okay

00:12:25.720 I don't care

00:12:29.140 I just don't care

00:12:34.600 If we water deep

00:12:38.800 Water says me deep now 1.00

00:12:41.280 I went down like a ragdoll 1.00

00:12:45.140 You're gonna die 1.00

00:12:47.020 All deep, all deep 1.00

00:12:50.200 All the sins we're spinning

00:12:52.400 I love my way down 1.00

00:12:54.680 Like a bird, die

00:12:56.600 Rats of a child

00:12:58.640 Well, I came right 0.84

00:13:00.340 I was doing this again

00:13:01.740 I could never see

00:13:02.900 I was dancing again

00:13:04.080 Well, I found out

00:13:05.600 It's all right open

00:13:06.660 I can hog it

00:13:07.420 Let it talk, talk, talk, talk 0.94

00:13:09.040 I'll be a woman 0.99

00:13:10.000 I'm feeling when I see the damn fire I could 0.99

00:13:12.920 I'll tear my heart 0.98

00:13:14.940 Like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a middle town

00:13:20.100 Oh, deep, water deep, water deep

00:13:23.840 I got fish like a fish

00:13:28.520 Full of open smiles

00:13:31.360 I went through water deep

00:13:34.480 Oh, I'm seriously now 0.99

00:13:37.220 I got the benefits of the cock-fucked smile 0.99

00:13:43.060 I said, well, well 0.99

00:13:47.100 I feel you have to change for your thing

00:13:52.680 I said, well, well, well

00:13:57.760 I said, well, well, well, well, well

00:14:02.600 are we in it are we doing it hello hey hello how's it going guys i'm doing okay 0.98

00:14:31.020 judas your fucking volumes all guffed up is it too loud is it too quiet what's going on 0.97

00:14:36.700 it's a little quiet you know what it's it's distant are you how how are you at the mic 1.00

00:14:41.340 get get close okay too close how about now babe ah it's too bad it's bad this is a bad start

00:14:49.800 okay we got we got a few i got a couple i'm here with metaprime we got metaprime in the house

00:14:55.400 everybody well thanks for having me guys very happy you're here we've had him on the show before

00:15:01.200 i've been on his show before it's gonna be a great time we get along great people are talking about

00:15:06.660 this show we got someone in the comments you got to get to this first we got the great white north

00:15:12.040 he's asking am i gonna be doing sound effects i don't know am i there it is a guy we always do a

00:15:22.660 quick sound effect check here um you know what we're we got a woman moment okay good oh perfect

00:15:30.020 we're gonna be using a lot of that yeah

00:15:31.820 first of all before we get started a little bit of show house clean here for fans of the show

00:15:40.800 friends of the show blood satellite we have an update on uh cheese alert and judas i've informed

00:15:48.220 you so for a bit of background here uh we have listeners friends of the show

00:15:52.660 who mail us things um oftentimes you know items that means that books sometimes that we cover on

00:15:58.940 the show um if people would like to know that i'm not going to give it out right now but if you want

00:16:03.660 to get figure out how to get in touch with me but we got one intrepid listener uh named kel

00:16:10.240 who likes sending us cheese um and he sent us a whole big naya crate of cheese in the past

00:16:19.880 and it was a bum batch and part of that was to blame for me i accepted responsibility kept it

00:16:26.960 in my dry room over the winter three months you know who's counting like i was saying it cost you

00:16:33.960 nothing not to throw me under the bus on that one but and then he just i got a new shipment in and i

00:16:40.860 ran and i got it so you know my neck's not gonna be on the guillotine and um you know opened it up

00:16:46.780 and uh you know kind of looked odd because he he wraps it up really nice and uh the place i picked

00:16:52.880 it up at um you can tell they were excited to get rid of it because it reeked um it was and

00:17:01.340 it would have been there for maybe a day or two and it's it just and these let me just say this

00:17:05.660 i'm going to say something without saying something it is indians that work in this place 1.00

00:17:10.220 and even they're like get this shit the fuck out of here so let's just say okay and then i take it 0.99

00:17:16.220 home i look at i get it i get it out and i take a photo and i'm like oh this must be you know it 0.99

00:17:20.180 looks kind of funky i'm like this must be some of that green plastic wrap that you hear about

00:17:24.560 i took a photo sent to kellen like oh did you use green plastic wrap to wrap this he said

00:17:32.240 uh-oh so once again it appears we got a crate of uh i don't know how cheese can spoil that bad but 0.77

00:17:40.040 it is it's toxic as far as i'm concerned damn uh you want it you want to take it off my hand yeah

00:17:46.860 i'll come get it i'll put it in the compost this is a meta problem this is what the show is all 0.93

00:17:54.140 about it is wasting the listener's time okay so what do we got just a couple of chats to get

00:17:59.700 through uh patchwork is here saying first an episode about balls now we're streaming on titty 0.96

00:18:05.780 tuesday fantastic it is titty tuesday this is a show for men who have seen boobs if you if you 1.00

00:18:14.340 i tell you what if you haven't seen boobs you can you can get the fuck 0.99

00:18:18.520 there's gonna be a lot more here and you know not no hypotheticals no i dreamed a titty 0.99

00:18:26.640 we've we all i'm gonna say is we've dealt with this before i don't want to i don't want to have

00:18:30.600 those people in the mix we got um requited here representing the beaver gang this is the the j

00:18:38.740 burden listener base of course we we love to hear from them uh but but but but what else oh we got

00:18:44.780 minoan saying hello great post uh no stranger to a hello post um so anyway we're going to move on

00:18:52.940 let's get to the the meat of it because we actually do have quite a few listeners tuning

00:18:56.840 into this right nice there is a lot of discourse going on right now let me see if i can just pull

00:19:04.140 this up right now um meta prime recently got into what would he call it not a not a debate

00:19:14.280 with um with sargon of a cod yeah they just call it like a debate when it's just quote tweeting

00:19:22.540 somebody but you know maybe maybe some online uh dunking is is the appropriate term i had this

00:19:30.280 pulled up on my screen and for some godforsaken reason i have lost it i'm wondering can you

00:19:36.660 perhaps link to me in the chat your thread on this that summarized it oh so well if you can

00:19:44.380 find that i got you i'll send it i pulled it up i did my homework before i came on your podcast

00:19:51.100 i didn't want to look like any uh unprepared unprepared charlatan over here see this he's

00:19:57.140 trying to curry favor with the audience he's trying to pull a judas he's trying to be like oh

00:20:01.000 yep that's how you do it this is my show now but you know what maybe it's maybe it's everybody's 0.98

00:20:06.880 show all right so i'm just it's the people's show it's the people's show so now this is

00:20:14.160 here we go this is related to a previous episode we had actually the previous two episodes on

00:20:21.780 blood satellite the first one was discussing i'm going to put it briefly discussing uh how our

00:20:26.920 ideas begin to propagate into other scenes and spaces and how those scenes with different first

00:20:33.360 principles and sort of ideological priors take our ideas and then warp them into something else

00:20:38.060 one example we gave was how this thing called the long house seems to change definitions depending

00:20:43.960 on what scene or space is using it right that's an interesting phenomenon um then the last episode

00:20:49.880 we were talking about um we were referencing primarily lauren southern alex kashuta and the

00:20:56.200 narrative that we're going to talk about right now which has been brewing for a couple weeks

00:21:00.120 about the role of women in let's just call it broadly the right wing i don't want to just call

00:21:06.040 it the distant right because i do think this is expanding out to encompass a lot of other movements

00:21:11.000 is that an accurate assessment you guys do you think does that sound right agreed yeah okay

00:21:20.040 all right so um here is sargon of a car you know let's just pull up his right here lose the vote

00:21:29.320 it's a whole video i don't know if i want you know can you hear this around the subject

00:21:36.040 let's just watch this for a second then i'll see your response women are treated online by

00:21:40.200 right-wing activists and this has from what i've seen happen mostly on twitter which is really the

00:21:44.920 best place to have any kind of productive conversation what's worse is that the conversation

00:21:47.820 listening to a british person on fast forward is is unreal you should you should definitely 0.98

00:21:55.420 enlarge the the video you know what this is a good point i am i'm what you call an asshole i'm 0.92

00:22:03.160 not very good at this about the right-wing conception of the romantic relationships

00:22:06.280 between men and women is not mature and is being undertaken by people who probably don't

00:22:09.960 actually have all that much experience of them personally and so you have to go from the examples

00:22:13.760 of others now i'm gonna say there's a lot of hate coming towards wife guys yep you know and there's

00:22:20.260 a lot of good questions in the discourse around wife guys surrounding wife guys you know a popular

00:22:25.640 one that i've prompted many people with is adolf hitler before he died married uh you know ava

00:22:35.620 longoria whatever her name was and then for a very brief amount of time so was hitler 0.96

00:22:43.140 alive long enough to be a wife guy now a lot of people they come to you like what the fuck who 0.99

00:22:49.840 the fuck are you what the fuck you talking about they don't answer the question they have to answer 0.99

00:22:53.020 around it because my theory is that it accumulates prior to the marriage so if you meet a girl and 1.00

00:23:00.320 marry her a year later you're not a wife guy not for a few years and however you know a woman for a

00:23:05.620 years before and then you get married that is grandfathered in so was hitler was adolf hitler

00:23:10.660 chancellor adolf hitler white a white guy i think the case is clear what do you think judas

00:23:15.600 yeah i think he had the personality of a white guy from the get-go he was just uh you know he

00:23:21.660 had some he was busy you know okay by the way i said it's an honorary guy it sounds like you're

00:23:26.680 saying white guy no sorry i may have misspoke i meant to say wife guys i think i it's a freudian

00:23:33.160 there i said i said white guy oh that's that's not uh we're on a freudian thoughts in there

00:23:39.880 oh was that your wife laughing in the background or coughing it's my wife clearing her throat in

00:23:47.320 embarrassment i was hoping for a laugh i need a win on this episode so far okay i think that

00:23:54.200 actually i do have some authority on this subject and i have to say i would never talk to my wife

00:23:57.800 in the way that i see right-wing men online speak to the women that they view to be on their own

00:24:01.260 and i think that you do build your character while you'll have it so i don't want to do like a start

00:24:05.360 and stop too much here because this is 10 minutes and we can make a meal out of this but just my

00:24:09.720 immediate response and i kind of mentioned this in a post to him it's like yeah you wouldn't talk 0.88

00:24:14.360 to your wife the same way you would speak to a random woman would you that's buffoonish yeah

00:24:21.260 he doesn't like they always say that they always say first of all not to get the knives out too

00:24:27.580 early but what you always hear that's someone's mother that's someone's daughter that's someone's

00:24:31.220 sister have you ever heard a woman say that's someone's father that's someone's brother never

00:24:36.360 in all my days have i heard yeah yeah it's also and i don't know where he's going with it yet but

00:24:42.660 it's already interesting to me because like when we talk about our wives in relation to the scene

00:24:46.780 we're saying like we know that this works because it works with our wives so he's saying well you

00:24:52.120 shouldn't talk to women that way because if i talked to my wife that way she'd divorce me it's 1.00

00:24:55.480 like well now hold on a second step back maybe uh maybe your wife's a dumb bitch i don't know 1.00

00:25:01.380 you have a gay wife i'm not hey who knows and and the comment we had made on a couple previous 1.00

00:25:07.140 episodes and i love this and i believe it was put forward by a telegram user k was he said the only 0.95

00:25:12.380 right-wing woman is your wife yeah that's the e-girls e-slips whatever that that's a good that's

00:25:19.100 a good policy and then if everyone's married then everyone's got a right-wing wife which should be

00:25:22.880 the goal but i like because instead of debating about whether or not the right way all right let's

00:25:27.240 get back to this he's still using that head though isn't he i think he should really retire this the

00:25:31.480 sargon head but anyway the conversation which is what i'm going to generously call it mostly

00:25:36.660 consists of center-right women who are essentially 90s liberals in their beliefs being attacked by

00:25:40.640 the more hardline right-wing twitter and ons put simply this quite unpleasant fiasco basically

00:25:45.100 boils down to the question is there an honorable place for women on the right to which the answer

00:25:50.540 had better be yes or else the right is going to die a painful and embarrassing death of irrelevance 0.69

00:25:54.560 as it alienates half of the population and then wonders why it keeps losing elections

00:25:58.220 whatever the repeal the 19th crowd wants in the heart of hearts women are not about to lose the

00:26:03.060 vote anytime soon and just as a sidebar this is part of the discourse that i've been seeing

00:26:07.800 uh specifically lauren chen we mentioned last episode she was saying you know repeal the 19th

00:26:13.260 amendment repeal women's right to vote um in the larger argument that democracy is broken you know 0.89

00:26:19.920 i don't dislike the take but it is odd hearing my insane words come out of a woman's mouth 0.88

00:26:25.800 you know i i'm used to them going into a woman's head and then seeing a

00:26:30.000 mean look on their face but so it's just i'm getting my lunch eaten and my lunch barf back 0.83

00:26:36.220 in my lap and so shrieking about how degenerate modern women are over and over and over is not 0.78

00:26:40.880 going to win you any friends whether these people like it or not whatever it is we call democracy 1.00

00:26:44.680 be, is probably going to be here for the foreseeable future.

00:26:47.760 Women as a voting bloc will matter, and so courting their vote matters.

00:26:57.060 Put simply, if the right doesn't find a way to telegraph its values to women, it is going

00:27:01.100 to continue losing.

00:27:02.100 Moreover, I think that right-wing thought leaders and the Twitter annons who act as

00:27:04.740 foot soldiers for right-wing ideals really need to learn how to regulate their trigger

00:27:08.000 fingers because I'm seeing a lot of what amounts to friendly fire going on and I don't think

00:27:11.320 it's decent.

00:27:12.320 the left are actually really good at telegraphing

00:27:14.740 their ideals to young women which is why they keep

00:27:16.840 winning they promise

00:27:17.980 I don't know if we need to watch the whole thing

00:27:20.740 I feel like we can

00:27:22.520 go off on that

00:27:24.540 the whole thing that all I got

00:27:26.900 from that was it's first of all

00:27:28.740 completely left coded it's about feelings

00:27:30.640 and decency and fairness and it's

00:27:32.860 principle free because he's not talking

00:27:34.980 about what principles

00:27:36.840 are correct or what is consistent

00:27:38.960 he's talking about what is

00:27:40.240 practical and successful 0.95

00:27:41.880 which is like i mean boofwell wants to be successful by courting gays instead of white

00:27:46.660 nationalists and he might be right there's more money over there but that's hardly principled

00:27:50.640 right and he's making the argument like regardless of your principles you can't you can't possibly

00:27:56.020 win by taking away the female vote so it's a no it's a non-starter it's like all right so what 0.99

00:28:00.740 happened to you what your beliefs you fucking gay man and now meta prime we're going to get to your 0.98

00:28:07.480 take on that in a second but i wanted to throw it to you to see if you had any uh thoughts on 0.99

00:28:12.440 that that you didn't get to cover in your post or any uh reaction so far no no i mean the post

00:28:18.600 is pretty comprehensive on my take here and uh yeah i'm whenever you're ready i'm happy to jump

00:28:23.920 into it all right so let me just read it for people because we'll have uh listeners to just

00:28:28.140 the audio version so sargon gets a lot wrong here and let me just say this is why i appreciate

00:28:32.120 meta prime because he takes a reaction that i would have had and removes all the threats

00:28:37.660 removes all the curses removes all the all the the the bones from them and he gives you just a

00:28:45.220 nice filet mignon so i i very i'm very appreciative that this is the one that seemed to have got

00:28:51.660 carl's attention rather than mine which is me kind of making fun of him for i think amy therese and

00:28:58.820 we can get to her in a second amy therese made this point first and i yanked it but it was

00:29:03.380 something like they know referring to him saying that i wouldn't even rape you thing to like

00:29:08.660 which is like well that's how you treat your like enemies how do you treat your friends like 0.69

00:29:14.780 you would rape them this is not it's like you know and of course i hear that i'm like well

00:29:22.900 he's got my vote but that's i understand that's what not to get the electorate okay so 0.96

00:29:27.440 Sargon gets a lot wrong here, but most fundamentally, he completely fails to understand and identify the real problem the right has with women in the online discourse.

00:29:36.360 It has little to do with promiscuity of modern women, but the very legitimate concern that if women successfully establish themselves in the discourse, they will use that power to impose a feminine frame on the discussion.

00:29:48.440 anyone paying attention understands the degree to which toxic femininity has spread throughout 0.71

00:29:53.880 all of society forcing us to put feelings of equality and sensitivity before realism and 0.97

00:29:59.180 practicality this is why we have such dire issues with crime illegal immigration the trans agenda 0.54

00:30:04.840 toxic tolerance very very good phrase i think that's got some legs as well uh is exactly for 0.76

00:30:11.460 this reason the right is justifiably concerned about including women in one of the last male

00:30:15.880 dominated spaces left.

00:30:17.640 What I find so pernicious about Sargon's video

00:30:19.720 is that instead of being honest about why the

00:30:21.740 right is really concerned, he accepts the frame

00:30:23.720 that Lauren Southern established earlier

00:30:25.780 this week, claiming that the online right is

00:30:27.800 mean to women because of their

00:30:29.540 promiscuity and unwillingness to defer to men. 1.00

00:30:32.360 I know we have to win female voters to the 0.69

00:30:33.800 right, but playing nice with the Longhouse 0.78

00:30:35.680 won't end well.

00:30:37.620 A fantastic summary, and I

00:30:39.660 wonder, Judas, what do you think of that?

00:30:41.500 And after that, Meta, if you'd like

00:30:43.760 to speak on that a bit, too.

00:30:45.880 judas you can start by giving your oh i said am i here i said it's uh beautiful

00:30:52.040 reddit third time reading it would read again fantastic i agree so so meta if you would like

00:30:59.640 this one um got got some traction on it that was oh we can actually go to his response right now

00:31:05.160 i totally forgot to cover this the response to this post yeah we had a we had a pretty big back

00:31:09.960 and forth and i think that was what was really cool about the post is i woke up on i think it

00:31:15.120 was like what was it was like saturday morning or something like that and i and i had slept in i

00:31:20.640 think i went out the night before or something and uh i'm like oh i have a lot more notifications

00:31:27.540 than normal and i got and i saw his reply and i was like oh okay this is why right and to your

00:31:35.880 point like he had kind of picked this one as the one to respond to um which you know i was super

00:31:42.360 excited about you know i i do try to um put my posts out there in a way where i'm not you know

00:31:49.900 doing ad hominem attacks right i am focused on you know actually having uh an intellectual

00:31:56.720 conversation about these things and so he did bite but the funny thing is you know his reply

00:32:02.160 and you know let you read it here is it's like in in like it even gets worse as he goes because

00:32:07.960 we had a few back and forth but he's very uh he's just very sour and mean he's not really talking

00:32:14.040 about the issue and i think that's why he got ratioed so hard in this thread yeah and a good

00:32:20.480 what i like to do when i see these when people are speaking in broad terms is try and discern

00:32:25.300 who it is they're actually talking about so he'll talk about the right is it the entirety of the

00:32:29.340 right well of course not it sounds like he might be referring to groipers but the peak of groipers

00:32:36.420 was maybe a few years ago like i'm not even sure that the groipers are that you know right now like

00:32:42.580 there is that on the right but i i think that was like this is kind of late this is late to the

00:32:48.640 discourse if anything it's been on the downtrend since the peak like and even andrew tate seems to

00:32:54.060 be dwindling and he's really become like a parody of himself you know yeah what really kicked us

00:33:01.680 off was the lauren southern tweets recently about how all of her friends are moving left and how oh 0.97

00:33:09.080 the rights being mean to women because they're adopting like third world backwards islamic

00:33:13.920 ideology and stuff like that so i think that's why it kind of got jettisoned into the zeitgeist

00:33:18.720 more recently yeah and that's something we covered uh pretty comprehensively on the last

00:33:25.140 two episodes ago or one episode ago was that she and i don't want to just keep beating this horse

00:33:31.380 but it needs to be said that i really do think lauren southern is the rotten tumor of this entire

00:33:37.000 non-discourse non-event um because if you've been tracking this for as long as we have

00:33:42.920 like psychopaths you realize that she's been being the drum that most all of my right-wing

00:33:48.980 friends are getting divorced and all of my right-wing friends are going to the left and 0.73

00:33:53.020 a lot of women jumped in that first of all i don't accept that that's true um and second of all

00:33:59.780 it seems that this thing of ours as my friend thomas 777 would say is more popular than ever

00:34:06.960 with women call that organically call it for whatever reason it seems to be have more cultural

00:34:12.240 cachet there has been a vibe shift there these the discourses that we engage with are more

00:34:18.100 acceptable so it sounds odd that now more than ever before is this pushback from women saying

00:34:26.000 like i think it's time for us to leave why because there's more women than ever before or is that why

00:34:30.500 you feel in a position that you can start making demands which is kind of close to what i think it

00:34:35.800 is um but yeah like i i reject i reject their analysis and i don't actually think that we're

00:34:43.580 that mean to women over here um you know like once you actually get these guys talking because

00:34:49.540 on the right um broadly you got guys who are more and a lot of leftist narratives are gonna be 0.97

00:34:55.800 laughing when i say this but you know it's fucking true because the only reason you guys start gun 0.92

00:34:59.780 clubs is because we did it first um the only reason you started lifting was because we you 0.98

00:35:04.000 gotta keep up with those psychos over there you know we're the people who actually have families

00:35:09.260 and you know we're you know even if we're traditional we tend to be we just because we 0.97

00:35:15.080 have boundaries doesn't mean that we're mean to women for no fucking reason you know who's mean 1.00

00:35:19.500 to women is uh trannies they're real mean to women we don't have a lot of them over here 1.00

00:35:25.520 we have a couple though we don't get into that but we tend not to like having the people around 1.00

00:35:32.360 who are actually the ones raping and killing you so i think that that doesn't get brought up a lot

00:35:39.440 um and we're also the ones with the guns who can defend you let's get into carl benjamin's 0.97

00:35:45.060 um and we also do fucking brazilian jiu-jitsu we do dmt which means we can get into mind wars 0.92

00:35:51.800 how many leftists can get into a fucking mind war i bet not a couple all right so carl benjamin 0.95

00:35:58.380 in response says it's very difficult to think that the online right is not mean to women also 0.98

00:36:03.740 me like you mentioned this the word mean is very feminine it's all about feelings what do you mean

00:36:11.260 mean no man says this you're yes you're a married man you've got i don't know four kids whatever it

00:36:17.720 is but like you shouldn't be using that word you're serious this isn't lotus eater's vocabulary

00:36:23.880 all right it's staggering the way you theory cells oh my god theory so

00:36:29.040 i've i'm reading this for the first time by the way i didn't read his responses

00:36:32.600 if you don't mind i am seething right now

00:36:37.520 it's staggering the way you theory cells have decided it's acceptable to talk to slash about

00:36:43.860 them i was under the impression women were to be wives and mothers which entitles them to a measure

00:36:48.500 of respect yeah once you're a wife or a mother until then it's fair game i'm making fun your 1.00

00:36:53.740 nails i'm shitting on your lashes you come in in a short skirt i'm saying you look like a dump of 1.00

00:37:01.160 shit you are and here here's meta prime taking the words taking what i just said and dusting 1.00

00:37:10.160 the cobwebs off go get all the spiders off it here's what he says you're equating mean with 1.00

00:37:16.020 won't take shit uh the online right knows what happens when you let women browbeat you into being 0.98

00:37:21.480 more tolerant crime illegal immigration and the trans agenda these problems could be solved by 0.99

00:37:26.200 ignoring the cries of women for tolerance just doing what is practical and realistic it can

00:37:31.600 still have a love and appreciation for women while understanding their sentiment sentiments of toxic

00:37:36.360 tolerance are not suited for the modern discourse and this is what i'd like that you did and we we

00:37:41.400 discussed this before that he's just to summarize my position on the last episode i said we welcome

00:37:49.060 women in the space we welcome women to traffic in our ideas however if there is a conversation to be

00:37:55.540 had about the role of women on the political right broadly the conversation needs to begin

00:38:00.560 that you are fleeing a female dominated space which is the left which is the democrats the

00:38:07.120 liberals or everyone do that is a female dominated space in every aspect that is that's where feminism

00:38:12.060 has gotten everything it ever wanted so if you are here i think the onus is on you to admit the

00:38:18.900 failures of the female leadership that chased you up because and this is what alex kashuta had said

00:38:24.500 which i vehemently disagree with and lauren southern by saying we feel as women it's safer 0.97

00:38:29.260 on the left it's safer with the shit libs i say well i don't know they're the ones trying to 0.99

00:38:34.420 mutilate your children and you know just every bad thing you could think of two surrounding women 0.99

00:38:42.100 pumping full of ssris everything that is more acceptable or pushed on that side so that tells 0.99

00:38:47.920 me you have a very poor sense of self-preservation or you're lying or this is some kind of subterfuge 0.92

00:38:55.300 you're engaging but it doesn't make sense the left would be safer for you and this is the side 0.99

00:39:00.820 that is pushing tolerance of crime legal immigration the transigen like these three 0.98

00:39:05.640 fucking things are decimating the daily lives of women and if that is not related if that is not 0.99

00:39:12.080 established as the result of a female dominated space and there's no conversation to be had if 0.99

00:39:16.880 you can't admit that then i don't fucking want to hear anything from you over here i'm not saying 0.90

00:39:21.920 you can't speak ever but like admit that you know what when women are in charge they seem to let 0.99

00:39:26.260 a lot of crying brown rapists in so i think we we tried it out we gave it a shot and that 0.95

00:39:34.260 happened so let's i'm doing this for you i want i want fewer rapists and that you wouldn't think 0.97

00:39:41.280 that'd be a hard sell sorry i've been rambling for a second no i mean i was just gonna say

00:39:46.500 patchwork has a good uh comment um he says women who understand right-wing ideas are actually

00:39:51.900 busy being wives and mothers. And I think that's kind of the catch-22. There's a few of catch-22s

00:39:59.520 around the whole women thing. But before I get into that, real quick, I'll just say, 0.99

00:40:04.580 I think the main way that Sargon goes wrong, and I want to emphasize this as we're having this

00:40:11.240 discussion, it's all about framing. It's the same thing with Lauren Southern, how she frames the

00:40:18.140 the vitriol of men and she blames it as coming from these backwards you know third world ideologies

00:40:24.540 and then you know and she points to tate right and it's like tate's not our guy tate's anyone 0.99

00:40:30.400 with a brain understands that tate's kind of like a degenerate idiot and like yeah he's kind of 0.94

00:40:35.160 co-opting a lot of these red pill ideas and i understand he's appealing to you know the modern 0.99

00:40:39.680 guy but no one's holding tate up as like this paragon of virtue that men should you know model

00:40:45.960 themselves after. And so for Lauren Southern to point to Tate and be like, he's the source of all

00:40:53.360 the stuff. Sure, there's some degree of the incels and those guys, but I think generally the saner

00:41:00.400 heads on the broader right and the dissident right, we understand that we need to get along

00:41:06.900 with women. And so the point that I'm making here is stop pretending that this is about who's nice

00:41:14.400 and stuff like that this is really about understanding if we let women into the space 0.99

00:41:18.960 and we give them too much control they're just going to longhouse everything right they're just

00:41:22.940 going to assert this frame of like we're all equal and everything's fine and dandy and fluffy and

00:41:28.460 that's not the case right we need to be able to address these things practically and my frustration

00:41:33.940 with sargon was he completely accepted that frame from lauren southern he said you know oh yes yeah

00:41:39.800 they're mad on the right or super mean and he just completely buried the fact that there's a

00:41:45.060 legitimate concern uh around women pundits in the space that they're going to come in and they're

00:41:51.460 going to browbeat people and they're you know and we've seen this a hundred times and lauren

00:41:55.100 southern's like the perfect example of this her going off and saying you guys need to be nicer

00:41:59.580 right it's you know it's it to me it's super frustrating especially her initial tweet was

00:42:04.720 you know all these women are moving to the left it's like okay well if you're moving to the left

00:42:09.460 did you really have a true belief in right-wing values to begin with? No, because if the thing

00:42:17.960 that gets you to move is people are being mean to you, well, guess what? A lot of people were

00:42:22.320 very mean to me when I started to figure out how I now understand reality. And that didn't stop me

00:42:29.080 from putting the truth above people being nice. And so I think that's the big concern that we

00:42:35.820 have in our spaces. If we're going to do what's good and what's practical, we can't be nice and

00:42:41.980 fluffy. And women who are imposing that frame, they jeopardize our ability to do that. So we're 1.00

00:42:47.480 totally fine with women. We love women. We understand the necessity of women, but we also

00:42:51.800 need to make sure that we're not allowing the space to become long housed. Yes. And let me just 1.00

00:42:57.700 say this. It's a tragedy, a modern tragedy that this all began with Sargon of Akata believing 0.93

00:43:04.060 lauren southern as many listeners of the show will know this is unofficial disbelieving woman show 0.98

00:43:10.760 if i catch anyone believing a woman you can get the fuck out do not trust do not believe 0.99

00:43:20.780 sure as shit don't validate as a perfect as a perfect example of female subterfuge my wife 0.99

00:43:27.220 just entered the chat and said women in this space get real you know i'm i'm had enough to 0.99

00:43:32.740 here with her subterfuge by the way don't believe him don't listen to women she's she's been mincing 0.98

00:43:39.040 around telling tall tales about me tell fucking tall and short tales i don't care for her saying 0.99

00:43:44.520 like she's not a woman every time i say all this juice is like me me me no enough she's on thin ice 0.96

00:43:52.940 with me um it there's an interesting point to me there about lauren southern you know her

00:43:59.080 her entering this conversation saying you know her story is related to men being mean to her

00:44:05.180 just to remind people she did not leave the scene because people were mean to her

00:44:09.960 that had nothing to do with why she left she left to marry an australian federal agent

00:44:14.920 and have a kid and then got divorced and then she started making content again

00:44:19.500 and the more she explained about her backstory there the more everything seemed to just be

00:44:24.780 a weird intrapersonal dynamic thing and now she's making it everyone else's problem so lauren

00:44:32.220 southern you know people will say how is it possible that this can be boiled down to something 0.98

00:44:37.080 so simple yes i think it is is lauren southern and her fucking covering of busted hoes uh have 0.99

00:44:44.080 all been broken up with or divorced and they do what every divorced woman does is they start 0.99

00:44:49.940 whispering in the ears of all their married friends trying to get them divorced my wife deals 0.78

00:44:54.880 with this she she works with she's works at girl boss central and all these women are pieces of 1.00

00:45:00.600 trash and they like they try and turn her against me when their relationships are fucked up if they're 1.00

00:45:05.620 mad at their husband they'll try and make other women mad at their husband it's a weird fucking 1.00

00:45:10.920 thing that women do and i think any women listening will know exactly what i'm talking about 0.98

00:45:15.580 but i think that's what lauren southern and a couple others are doing which is like 0.84

00:45:19.540 they couldn't find love in the space so now the space is damn and that is spreading through the 0.98

00:45:25.060 fucking female hive mind and in i really just want to nail that with this is all just a a scheme 0.99

00:45:33.060 in a sense because if you if you break it down for five seconds it doesn't actually make 0.99

00:45:37.640 any fucking sense um oh sorry we got a couple comments here we had a couple good ones i wanted 0.97

00:45:44.920 women let the rapists win by matchy peachy um i had one here oh we got a trouble armstrong 0.99

00:45:54.100 lauren southern is a smoke show well what are your thoughts on that secondhand smoke show maybe 0.90

00:46:00.460 secondhand smoke show

00:46:03.820 you love to hear it uh we got ramen respecting zone you heard wrong um ramen has too many 0.99

00:46:13.760 glutamates uh we got a whole a whole lot of ramen stuff in the chat right here the fuck um 0.99

00:46:20.880 i just want to say you're trouble you're you're you'd bang a dehydrated salami is what they're 0.99

00:46:26.540 telling you trouble over here i mean you know why not um we got patrick here no shame i remember

00:46:35.260 thinking she was hot when i was like 16 let me just say for the record the entire criticism we

00:46:40.300 had about lauren southern never once mentioned her looks or rage i mentioned well i mentioned 0.98

00:46:47.700 a little bit i mentioned her fucked up eyelashes i've mentioned her underarm fat 0.58

00:46:52.580 but we talked at length about her appearance yeah but i mean it's neither here nor there 0.96

00:46:58.680 this is why i recommend guys do getting married there's a lot of reasons to get married a lot of

00:47:02.660 good reasons but one of my top reasons is you get access to another like real intimate access to

00:47:08.400 another female mind and there's no one who can bully a woman like another woman so i had no idea

00:47:15.220 that like little underarm fat was of such critical importance rhodium put us onto that that was a 0.70

00:47:21.200 great bit rhodium maiden are a good unironic woman in our chat she she goes on by this all day 0.53

00:47:28.580 but under you can she's like an astrology type she can tell you your entire life story by looking 0.89

00:47:33.640 at your underarm fat women have powers of bullying that blow my mind every day and i just i wish i

00:47:42.840 could harness that i guess i can now but that's one of the reasons to get to get married is to 0.93

00:47:47.740 ignore other women but also um harm them anyway moving on hey before we get too far from it the

00:47:55.940 bit about um the the only really right-wing women are the ones that are actually mothers and wives

00:48:00.900 that I we keep kind of circling not we like the discussion the discourse is circling this idea

00:48:06.820 that one of the things that we're mad at women is we're like we're always telling women to shut up

00:48:11.420 and I see uh Sargon doing this right now he's like why are you guys all of you always telling

00:48:19.040 women all women to shut up and it's like no he's not understanding the nuance that one of the

00:48:24.380 principles that we have is women should not be in leadership roles women should not be in media 0.98

00:48:30.620 Women should not be politicians or pundits or thought leaders or philosophers. 1.00

00:48:34.360 They shouldn't. 1.00

00:48:34.760 They're not good at it.

00:48:35.980 They poison the narrative when they do.

00:48:38.220 They're not prepared or built for that. 1.00

00:48:40.520 So when we see women talking in media, we say, shut up. 1.00

00:48:46.540 Get down from there. 1.00

00:48:47.980 It's dangerous for you and for me.

00:48:50.200 Stop it.

00:48:50.540 She's standing on a railing at night.

00:48:53.480 So I'm not telling my wife or my daughters or my mom to shut up.

00:48:57.660 I'm not telling the clerk at the grocery store to shut up.

00:49:00.620 I'm very friendly.

00:49:01.700 I'm telling a woman who has spent her time and money getting on a public platform to tell men how to live. 1.00

00:49:09.660 I'm telling her very strongly to shut the fuck up. 0.99

00:49:13.960 This is not an anti-woman thing. 1.00

00:49:15.820 This is like the equivalent would be women rightfully telling men who dress up in dresses and try to chase little children to fucking cut it out. 0.99

00:49:27.460 That's the thing that women do. 0.99

00:49:28.520 that it's disgusting and embarrassing and terrifying stop it that's how i feel about 0.99

00:49:33.780 women in politics and women in media so you'd also be like it would be like if a woman told 1.00

00:49:38.940 andrew tate to shut the fuck up and i said would you say that to your dad what the fuck are you 1.00

00:49:45.080 talking about you psycho you mad like this is it's such a dumb point it makes me retroactively 1.00

00:49:51.520 dislike anything you said because all i hear all day is sargon is based and i think it's accidental 0.99

00:49:57.000 baseness i'm not trying this is this is not meta prime endorsing what i'm saying i'm just running

00:50:02.580 my mouth but i will say that every once in a blue moon sargon says something like you know mass 0.99

00:50:08.500 migration is bad and we go yes he's back we're back europe's back fucking the white man's back 1.00

00:50:15.740 baby but then he'll just say some shit like this like should we be nicer to women no you shouldn't 1.00

00:50:20.720 be nicer to anyone ever i'm where did that get us sure he is mr classical liberal though isn't 0.99

00:50:25.480 the whole lotus eaters thing i don't really watch them but i thought that was the the idea is they

00:50:28.940 believe in the original liberalism of like men and women are equal women should be educated as long

00:50:34.440 as they're right wingers or something to that effect yeah that's pretty much you know i i don't

00:50:40.460 follow the lotus eaters very i will say of the lotus eaters he's the only guy i like like whenever 0.98

00:50:46.100 i've tuned in there's him and two schlubs to like who the fuck are these and then they're they're 0.98

00:50:53.000 doing sort of news commentary stuff we'll see a clip like well that was a clip wasn't that a clip 0.98

00:50:57.080 that was indeed a clip and you know what it's just the left is at it again you know it makes 0.80

00:51:02.420 you like i guess paul joseph watson was a fucking genius with his content because i would like my 0.97

00:51:07.300 kingdom for imagine my shock compared to this fucking drac anywho well you know this is a big 0.96

00:51:14.260 thing right and and this is i i wrote a thread not so long ago it's maybe i would say like four 0.98

00:51:19.760 months, maybe five months ago. It's called the inflection point. If anyone's listening to this

00:51:25.040 and you're kind of running into my content for the first time, I'm one of those weird X accounts

00:51:29.660 that actually uses the highlight tab to highlight actually interesting threads and tweets and stuff

00:51:36.660 that I've put together. So you can go to my, go to my page and you can go through my highlights

00:51:41.080 and the inflection point thread is one of those. And it basically talks about how the ideas on the

00:51:49.640 dissonant right are getting more popular more mainstream um and this is a good and a bad thing

00:51:55.960 right there's this um really great like meme that came out a long ago and it's i guess it's kind of

00:52:01.940 like about magic the gathering any of those card games where um you know like a bunch of nerds start

00:52:07.600 something and they're really passionate about it and it's cool and it's fun and then like other

00:52:11.440 nerds get into it because they appreciate it for what it is and then you start to get people who

00:52:15.660 get into it because like, it's a cool thing to do. Right. And people want to hang out and then

00:52:21.140 girls start to be attracted to it because you know, like the cool guys are there. Right. And

00:52:26.660 then the griftery guys who want the girls who are attracted to the scene now start showing up. And

00:52:32.660 so you have this kind of, that's the one, that's the inflection thread. And if you scroll down,

00:52:37.320 you'll, you'll see the meme that I'm talking about. And so, you know, I, I kind of talk about

00:52:40.660 how, you know, e-girls are showing up in the scene. It's becoming more of a thing. Yes. I've,

00:52:45.100 you know who doesn't like the cat girl aesthetic um i told you i love i love our women um but

00:52:52.700 so talk about it all the time like going to any chat right now you're gonna hear them talking

00:52:57.880 about women or at least parts of them sorry continue yeah yeah and so that's the that's

00:53:02.940 the meme right there the degeneration of fan base hobby um and so yeah and so then basically it gets

00:53:09.640 to the point where it was cool it was fun but now it's just overrun with grifters and you know

00:53:15.500 and people who are in there for the wrong reasons and then so people leave and they do their own

00:53:19.500 thing and you know my big uh thing is i do think that we need to gatekeep the the dissonant right

00:53:26.800 online right i know i listen to your guys show all the time uh the best show uh out there uh

00:53:32.380 you guys are great. Um, and like one of the points that you make all the time, right. Is the,

00:53:39.420 the importance, uh, or how you were like not on Twitter. Right. And, and dives is like, Oh shit,

00:53:44.380 like, I guess I have to be on Twitter to like, you know, kind of, and, and I think it, it kind 0.94

00:53:48.620 of needs to be done. You don't have to be terminally online, you don't have to kind of

00:53:52.140 post all the meme content, but being able to establish a presence and, you know, kind of push

00:53:58.620 back against the dumb takes from like you know in the uh you know the this kind of like right wing

00:54:05.620 you know the right wing grifter sphere i think it needs to be done because otherwise they're 0.97

00:54:11.240 guys like sargon and lauren uh southern are just gonna keep injecting you know oh we need to be

00:54:16.360 nice we bring women and stuff like that and it's just it's just gonna go up in flames um i thought

00:54:21.500 judas made an amazing point earlier he's talking about how you know women tend to uh like if

00:54:28.540 they're soured right they've had bad life experiences and like and another girl comes

00:54:32.980 to them and says oh you know i had like a fight with my boyfriend or my my husband their like 0.97

00:54:36.940 immediate default reaction is to be like oh you should break up with him like yeah he's no good

00:54:41.220 for you like you go out on your own like this is i think one of the main problems that we have in

00:54:46.520 society around women is the females like guys broadly has been so poisoned against men um and 0.97

00:54:54.300 you know they went that kind of promiscuous girl boss route and you know now they're kind of like 0.99

00:54:58.920 old and you know they've made all these mistakes and now they're kind of enforcing that on the 0.92

00:55:03.400 younger generation i don't know if you saw like the rf uh rfh uh drama today on the timeline

00:55:09.480 between her and coffee wait i think i've got hold on yeah so anyway i got this i got a coffee fan

00:55:19.280 non-tweet here i wanted to show in a little oh yeah yeah well we yeah we can talk about the

00:55:23.440 fair question as well. I mean, there's a lot of big, a lot of good discourse around the women's

00:55:27.580 stuff, but the thing that I'm getting at is in order to actually kind of, um, rehabilitate women

00:55:35.640 towards like the positive ideals that it's not only just like, what's going to be good for men,

00:55:40.280 as far as, you know, what we wanted a good relationship, but you know, women are happier

00:55:44.160 when they have like a good family, a supportive community. Like, I don't think any guy on the

00:55:49.060 right wants to just like you shove women in the kitchen and not care about what they think right 0.65

00:55:54.320 like it's it's about trying to find harmony between the genders and yeah the the toxicity

00:56:00.480 that exists in these female circles i was i was at a um i was like at the local corner store the

00:56:05.800 other night and there was this group of women and they're all complaining to each other about how

00:56:10.280 um the idea that you know a woman's highest calling is to have children and they're like

00:56:15.460 oh this is horrible like why would anyone want to be a mom like that's so degrading and they're 0.95

00:56:20.040 like oh you're so right queen you know it's just like the amount the degree to which women reinforce 1.00

00:56:26.060 these bad values because they're just that's what they are you know they're just these they're they're 1.00

00:56:31.860 part of the vibe right they they just recite the herd and you know so that's going to be a very 1.00

00:56:37.940 powerful force once we start to have more success and kind of build power and you know more women

00:56:44.020 And, you know, it's like one of those things where a lot of the Anon guys on the right, they're like handsome, chadly dudes.

00:56:50.320 I know like Dimes is secretly, you know, Olympic powerlifter.

00:56:56.080 I don't know if you guys know this.

00:56:57.480 But, you know, it's like we'll get the girls eventually.

00:57:00.300 But we have this kind of catch 22 problem of like we can't be nice to them.

00:57:04.840 We're never going to out nice the left.

00:57:07.060 Like the left is always going to be like, oh, you know, just put them on a pedestal and tell them that they're amazing and all this kind of stuff.

00:57:13.460 so we're never going to outnice the left there's no reason to do that we do need to win the women

00:57:17.000 vote but we do that by we need to have power and so you know we're kind of this weird catch-22

00:57:21.780 where if we want to go the democracy route which you know obviously it's kind of a you know who

00:57:26.880 knows if that's actually a viable path that it looks less and less the case every day but you

00:57:31.820 know we're not necessarily going to do that through um you know voting so we're in kind of

00:57:36.060 this weird spot where you know like we're not going to out you know our simple left and we

00:57:41.920 should just you know just focus on building what's good and real and that means you know

00:57:46.720 keeping the long yeah i know i went for a long there but no no no that's fine but i just want

00:57:50.380 to add on to that that my contention has always been we say this a lot in the show is that the

00:57:55.340 women will come like they they're here they are here like this is what it feels like when that 0.61

00:58:01.960 happens and there's just some weird shit happening but the people talk about the vibe shift the vibe 0.98

00:58:06.700 has shifted there is more interest in the space that presents new problems but we can deal with 0.89

00:58:11.480 those problems but like the women will come you actually don't really need to court them they're

00:58:16.840 seeing the failure of these policies over here so they come over here so you can just kind of let it

00:58:22.160 happen and there are filters in place so what they're complaining about really is a filter

00:58:26.460 a filter to keep out the people we don't want driving the discourse they're saying why aren't

00:58:31.100 i allowed in this room i'm like well you haven't proven that you're really bringing anything

00:58:35.120 substantive to the table yet you can hang out in this room and that's fine and you can party and

00:58:40.500 you can get away from the freaks that from the last place you were but actually i don't think

00:58:46.860 you have what it takes to exist in here and that's why we're quote unquote mean because you

00:58:52.440 actually because then if you become a famous content creator you'll do what most of these

00:58:56.660 women do which is just complain about mean comments you don't need to all like all i have

00:59:02.960 are negative comments i want to i want to seize i want to seize just for a moment i want to seize 0.51

00:59:08.900 on the women will come i want to seize on that and then i want to roll over and light a cigarette

00:59:14.480 and then uh no but what i was actually going to say what i was actually going to say is um 0.97

00:59:21.060 the uh fuck now i've lost my train of thought no really so the idea you were talking about 0.98

00:59:28.480 we you know regardless of how in a woods we want to go we have to convince women 0.99

00:59:33.500 and i like that we we're starting to kind of split the difference between are we convincing women

00:59:39.780 for the women or are we convincing women for the democratic system are we trying to get votes are

00:59:45.180 we trying to get clicks or are we trying to get women you know what i mean like are we trying to

00:59:49.940 induct women into the sphere are we trying to get wives girlfriends employ employees maybe are we

00:59:56.240 trying to get people to join a community join an organization are we trying to get members of a

00:59:59.620 church that i think is a front that's much easier to win because we have the upper hand like in

01:00:06.700 democracy it is all about who can be the nicest who can promise the moon and you're always playing 0.95

01:00:11.780 to the lowest common denominator which is kind of it's a lot of women already right but when you're 0.91

01:00:16.780 trying to induct women into a real thing we have the goods right we have the safety we have the

01:00:25.080 masculinity we have all of the things that women want that they don't even know they want so i

01:00:32.540 think we should be focusing on how we can work with that i whether it's a narrative or whether

01:00:36.440 it's in the way that we run organizations or the way that we interact with the world

01:00:39.420 like actually getting women get actual like physically getting women you know what i mean

01:00:45.560 like forming relationships and convincing them never mind democracy just getting them on our

01:00:51.280 side like to me the real question that many of the real leaders have been asking is like not making

01:00:58.140 your ideas more palatable to women how get getting young men and women together to get married and

01:01:02.940 actually think about yeah okay where how do we address the issue of only fans of tinder and stuff

01:01:08.560 like there's a lot of lonely young guys and i was going to mention this earlier one interesting

01:01:12.960 phenomena is that the the legitimizing of the incel narrative because they were trying to

01:01:20.080 marginalized the incel narrative for a long time and seems to be legitimized in the mainstream

01:01:24.600 discourse by bringing in what we call femcels which you know would also be incels you could

01:01:30.760 just call them incels but whatever it's a girl version of incel but now they're saying oh there's

01:01:36.640 actually women who are mentally ill and lonely too so this has become a valid thing to talk about

01:01:42.860 interesting how that is occurring in the mainstream zeitgeist while all these women are saying we have

01:01:48.100 an incel problem we actually you know we we have a birth rate problem and we have a gendered problem

01:01:55.220 and a relationship dynamics problem and that is producing this thing called the incel problem

01:02:00.080 but if you try and address those three those streams that gather together you can actually

01:02:05.360 solve it i think we're more than any other side the left the libs they're just still on tinder 0.99

01:02:11.140 over here we're saying fuck can we get like a church dance going you know fuck there's that guy 0.99

01:02:17.120 um meta you know him what's his name thad he's big into like was it sweet dancing like yeah so 0.99

01:02:23.700 so thad is uh a big proponent of what he calls a dance hall nationalism and so his his idea is

01:02:30.460 that we need to get more guys out there country swing dancing as it's it's a great place to meet

01:02:35.900 women uh the women who are going to do it it's a very like traditional kind of thing you have to

01:02:40.760 you know you know generally physically fit you're you know it's it's a very white coated thing so

01:02:45.980 yeah so he's a big fan of that and he is a very chadly dude if you're if you're not on x

01:02:51.200 um you should go check him out i'm trying to get and put how do we say that is it

01:02:55.540 what's his ad is at that i know we follow each other but you get that okay

01:03:00.280 i have i've actually i've been thinking about that i haven't been since i was a teenager but

01:03:06.180 i've been to events like that with my family and the idea of i was like uncomfortable with it

01:03:12.580 Cause I had no experience with this, but being a teenage boy and being thrust out into a

01:03:17.920 group of people of varying ages, but they're strangers to you.

01:03:21.480 And like, even your parents are pushing like, go grab the girl, go dance, go, go talk to

01:03:25.440 this person. 0.99

01:03:25.900 And like, by the end of the night you're drinking and like, you know, all of these fucking people 0.98

01:03:30.160 in my case, they were all white people just cause the place that we were, but yeah, like 0.98

01:03:34.040 in that case it was a, it was like an R and B jazz music event, but there was that kind

01:03:38.620 of a thing like an actual dance floor where everybody was socially pressured to go and find

01:03:43.180 a dance partner like i it sounds so corny but seriously it really is like if we had third

01:03:49.340 spaces like that it would be a game changer yeah i'm just showing a video right now he posts these 0.82

01:03:54.240 all the time he's like hey guys get out and fucking get good at dancing and you know i'm not

01:03:58.520 a dancer i've never happened but for a lot of guys like why not why not actually do a practical thing 0.89

01:04:03.800 so here's a side that is coming up with practical solutions for practical problems and i appreciate

01:04:09.160 that and this is just one of many to actually solve the insult problem by like yeah if you

01:04:14.740 have the discipline to lift you can learn to dance like it's not even that hard yeah okay 0.98

01:04:19.720 when that's crawling up my ass so they'll go if you you know to lift you know to dance 0.96

01:04:23.320 i'm taking a lot of strays during this i don't like it sorry i cut you off there no no it's all 0.99

01:04:30.460 good. I was just going to say, um, you know, dad, when I first, uh, met him, so I went out and

01:04:36.720 visited him, uh, where he's at. Cause I, I'm a big believer in, you know, we got a, the next stage

01:04:41.900 of what we're doing here is actually getting to know people, build relationships so we can build

01:04:45.540 stuff in the real world. And so, uh, you know, I've, I've hung out with that and had a few drinks

01:04:49.620 with him. And, uh, one of the times that we hung out, he actually, uh, met the girl he's with. Uh,

01:04:54.900 he had never done country swing dancing before she's an instructor uh and so it's only it was 0.65

01:05:01.100 within the last year that it's like sleeping with the madam of the whorehouse bad comparison but go

01:05:06.220 ahead well no he's so he's this uh you know he's he's gotten into it he's gotten really good at it

01:05:14.020 you know and uh well and i think you know it's it's kind of a huge flex because you know there's

01:05:20.120 There are a lot of guys who are in, you know, in the classes that she puts on who are clearly

01:05:26.500 there in part because she's a very attractive lady and, you know, they may be there pretty

01:05:31.980 good at country swing dancing and he's gotten really good and kind of like, you know, established

01:05:38.260 his dominance in the hierarchy, even though at the very beginning he wasn't, he wasn't

01:05:43.140 good at it.

01:05:43.660 So, you know, it's, it's impressive to watch what he's done.

01:05:46.620 He's a great guy.

01:05:47.180 He does a lot of things in our space.

01:05:48.280 so if you haven't already definitely follow him and there's more individuals like that over here

01:05:54.200 i'm sorry i just you mentioned before coffee fianon and uh rfh radfemhaler i got it pulled 0.96

01:06:01.720 up here now oh i love it i love seeing a fight i love seeing this bitch get yelled at i love to 0.97

01:06:11.500 because i know something about you i know your whole backstory i know you lost custody of your 1.00

01:06:19.420 kid because you're a fucking cunt and you're out of your goddamn mind now now dimes this is 1.00

01:06:26.220 oh i'm sorry i just i she she actually okay he's saying it so he can't be held liable it's uh 1.00

01:06:33.900 yeah i subscribe to singing special loophole nationalism it turns out if you attach nationalism

01:06:41.020 you append that you can do uh whatever the fuck you want um but you know coffee if you know once 0.81

01:06:46.560 again putting the bow on it saying it in a way that i wouldn't uh fill of actionable threats 0.99

01:06:51.860 he says this is a horrible hateful woman who has had a bad life to her to do her own bad choices 0.99

01:06:57.360 like driving a good car into a house who constantly does her best to make everyone who's stupid enough 1.00

01:07:02.640 to listen to her as miserable as she is it's a bit she posts things like this 80 times per day 0.99

01:07:07.300 that's not a bit anyone post 80 times a day is mentally unwell and i don't usually say that

01:07:12.500 because we are we are a madman friendly podcast but really telegram doesn't count you can

01:07:18.980 but like you're saying with andrew tate you know most of the criticism i see directed towards

01:07:26.000 andrew tate comes from guys like us you know a lot of women kind of write him up but the ones

01:07:31.400 in his comments really dunking on him are guys like us so it seems that we're pretty good at 0.88

01:07:37.380 policing fucking con artists like that and just like uh radfin hitler he's the type of guy who 0.98

01:07:43.100 just he just shit posts now like i saw a post from his like just today recently like chefs are 1.00

01:07:50.060 women chefs i'm trying to do his fucking weird accent chefs are women and you shouldn't if you 0.99

01:07:55.980 were to and he pronounces t's like this you're to be a chef that would be like being a woman 0.99

01:08:01.220 who's getting fucked like just like a nonsense post he's just posting nonsense like i can't even 1.00

01:08:06.760 emotionally get invested in this because you're you're a you're just straight grifter now you 1.00

01:08:11.880 went from atheist to christian to islam you're you are nothing you are a construct our society 0.99

01:08:17.580 like demastra says sovereignty is a space that you inhabit and men are called forth to inhabit 0.98

01:08:23.680 that space through civilizational forces similarly there's a sort of like did you just go from

01:08:29.140 dunking on tate to quoting demestra yes i love demestra and it's relevant it's always and it's

01:08:37.180 it's a space that must be occupied there's always a space occupied by an andrew tate 0.79

01:08:41.120 some weird fucking no chin cartoon character but it's like you know we we're actually pretty good

01:08:48.140 at policing those people out it used to be hulk hogan we don't really have hulk hogan much anymore 0.99

01:08:53.500 he's old and he's just a liar now so we have to have some kind of fucking guys like do you know 0.99

01:09:00.500 you have to being a man is telling a woman to shut up no one takes him seriously you know and it's 0.99

01:09:05.700 it's us going after him so i don't think we get any credit for that who's in his comments make

01:09:11.300 making fun of him having no chin and wearing sunglasses all the time because as mike redbar 0.99

01:09:16.840 said he has kind eyes guess what you can't be a pimp with kind eyes faggot all right so 0.99

01:09:23.320 let's see what a coffee fianon says he's he's we're all over the place here but i'm having 0.99

01:09:29.720 a whale of a time oh yeah this is great i mean like the whole thing with rfh is she's to your

01:09:36.280 point she's been this sour horrible like unhappy woman on the timeline for a long time you know

01:09:43.980 she she has these like that's the downside of twitter sometimes is the takes that can go off

01:09:50.280 Right. If you hit them with something that's like spicy or controversial or makes people mad, then it can get you notoriety. Right. And, you know, this is the thing is, you know, everyone who's smart enough to kind of know, like knows the people who built their accounts off insight and, you know, good beliefs and earnestness.

01:10:12.180 and then those who built their accounts off just the grift and rfh is like the perfect avatar for

01:10:20.720 like the evil you know heartless woman grift i heard you guys either did or are planning something

01:10:26.820 with around the aella stuff too like another like demonically possessed woman who is just

01:10:34.080 an embodiment of the grift yeah uh i just recorded it today it's for our paywall show

01:10:40.160 aella did a uh sub stack about how she got gang banged on her birthday and this is a woman who's

01:10:46.680 just a a sex worker content creator and i just kind of read through it this was everyone was

01:10:51.860 up in arms about this when it dropped um and i i try not to be just mean spirited but it is

01:10:57.540 if you read between the lines there's a lot of amusing things going on in that piece

01:11:02.160 about like her mental state and she's like it was it was cool except i was screaming on the

01:11:07.980 inside it's like i yeah i don't know i mean you said it not me um but yeah i just got a couple

01:11:14.240 comments here that i wanted to read uh we got uh lance biggums old show we had definitely learned

01:11:21.460 to dance guys you'll improve your body and coordination and also just a lot of fun um

01:11:27.020 we got dance biggums dance biggums dance biggums we got match beach he says dance was great until 0.91

01:11:34.500 every indian man in canada decided it was a good way to meet women true that that may be the case

01:11:40.240 i haven't gone i don't go and do things much anymore but i mean if matchy beachy give us the 0.87

01:11:46.540 411 on what's going on in the dance halls in canada if it's anything like the fucking 0.82

01:11:51.320 employment line to the lcbo it's going to be just a sardine can of guys hanging around 0.93

01:11:57.680 um all right sorry here's just one from last big ones the last round of dance lessons i did

01:12:04.140 the big city was 100 white all older couples except my wife and me it's all older couples

01:12:09.900 that's another angle and one thing i wanted to mention uh just to append this on the last thing

01:12:14.940 we were saying about um our side seems to be the side that is having the larger families

01:12:22.940 i think radical liberation another very good and interesting content creator i think he did

01:12:28.380 something on this before but we've mentioned it in passing i don't have the date in front of me

01:12:31.820 me but it was like if you the birth rate is overall going down but if you kind of expand

01:12:38.240 out the demographics there's a couple that are actually having more kids and these are sort of

01:12:43.020 like high performing wealthy people are having kids and also like people on our side ideologically

01:12:49.460 like broke but like religiously driven or ideologically driven yeah they're the ones

01:12:53.740 having you know i know a few absolutely a few a few guys in our space who got five six seven kids

01:12:58.760 i think black horse um a friend of the show um and who goes on radical liberation quite a bit he

01:13:04.940 had just ushered in his fifth kid anyway you see that a lot there's there's a multiplying factor

01:13:10.200 there too like if you look at it in two generations on the on the left side you might have 100 couples

01:13:14.400 and between these 100 couples they have 50 kids and on the right side 100 couples you might end

01:13:19.560 up with 500 kids and those 500 kids between them will have 2500 kids by the third generation

01:13:25.920 so you're looking and well the 50 on the other side will have 25 so you've gone you've gone to

01:13:31.940 a factor of 100 in like 35 years so like we really do if you look at the men it was the

01:13:37.640 mennonites or the amish who ever went to south america they like took an area of the jungle in 0.60

01:13:41.520 like the 70s and now there's like 80 000 of them like the demographics is not something to ignore 1.00

01:13:47.020 if we really are having even two or three more kids on average than them we can beat them on

01:13:51.860 demographics it's possible and let me just because i have this pulled up in front of us right now i'm

01:13:57.180 going to read uh the rest of these these coffee fianon tweets if you don't mind it says he's

01:14:02.460 responding to someone named platonic chain um he says to be frank this is true and i speak as a

01:14:08.640 male teacher of mostly males approximately 50 of my freshmen who haven't gotten out of my stem 0.71

01:14:12.600 pathway will have no greater function in life except to suck uh welfare do crimes or die for 0.71

01:14:18.300 israel now coffee fianon says this isn't true all of civilization was built by men and if our 0.76

01:14:23.280 society has decided that women are equal which failed and caused it to double down with then

01:14:27.880 we'll knock boys until we make women equal and the problem is our society um so what are your

01:14:34.060 thoughts on oh we got uh jefferson lee in here too um mentioning her schtick used to be less toxic

01:14:40.060 but she has she has known descended into full-on manic hatred not an act is someone radicalizing

01:14:46.320 themselves in real time now meta now what are your thoughts on uh coffee if he's tweets here

01:14:51.040 since you mentioned yeah i mean look i i think this is what needs to be done is we need guys

01:14:58.860 like coffee v who if you if you're not familiar with him he's like an old school og anon right

01:15:04.460 he's been around for a long time um he's similar to guys like uh lomez or you know any of those

01:15:13.460 kind of old hat guys are like BAP or, you know, that, you know, those kind of early,

01:15:18.380 early and ons.

01:15:19.280 And so he's got a lot, you know, in those guys, like it's important to understand, like

01:15:24.640 they're still around because they're good at keeping other people's secrets, right?

01:15:31.360 They're focused on what, what like actually needs to be done, right?

01:15:34.960 Like people like that wouldn't exist as prominently and as well respected as they are, unless

01:15:41.000 they had really kind of demonstrated that.

01:15:43.460 And so my whole thing with this is, you know, I'm relatively new to the scene. I've been here for like two years. I've gotten to know a lot of people and I feel like I've built a pretty good reputation in that time.

01:15:54.000 But, you know, guys like Cafefe need to be the leaders who are calling out the bullshit that are pointing out because we're heading into this election season, like the unity, especially it's like the dissident, a non right is going to be tested in a big way.

01:16:10.920 And, you know, we need guys like him to kind of step up and call this out.

01:16:13.980 And, you know, RFH, like she can't be associated with our space.

01:16:17.380 I mean, I have similar thoughts about other people, you know, but I don't want to get like sidetracked by that.

01:16:22.340 But, you know, we need to make sure like it's funny that like HR of the HR function of gatekeeping is actually kind of the most important thing that we need is we need really good gatekeeping in the dissonant right on the online right.

01:16:36.680 because yeah it's just these people can you know um basil talks a lot about this and he's kind of

01:16:43.040 like a divisive figure some some people like him some people don't but his point is like you know

01:16:47.720 if you bring in these these take sellers right especially the ones who are going to try to

01:16:52.900 leverage their minority status be like i'm a woman on the right and so therefore x or you know i'm a

01:16:58.260 gay person on the right and so therefore i can you know i can say stuff about gays that normal 0.94

01:17:03.080 people can't or whatever it is right the problem with bringing them in when they're you know saying 0.83

01:17:08.160 all the stuff that you like is kind of similar with sargon or lauren southern right as soon as

01:17:13.860 they you know get unhappy or whatever they're not there for the right reasons they'll flip the script

01:17:18.780 they'll do whatever they need to do to stay in power and those aren't the people we can we want

01:17:23.440 around um quickly before uh i forget i just want to call attention quickly to our uh odyssey chat

01:17:31.940 here we received a ten dollar tip from milk trucker please buy more cheese with this thank

01:17:37.200 you will do sir we just have a good meme here of jesus christ as ricky from uh trailer park boys

01:17:43.680 going smokes less let's go i just i like that i'd like to see more of it um and also just your point

01:17:50.200 about coffee fee anon uh it is good that he he's helping lead the discourse i have a tendency to

01:17:57.120 enter into discourse like the mask um so i'm going to pull that out what you're looking at here

01:18:03.440 is jim carries the mask this is the vibe i bring to the function uh oftentimes so it's good that

01:18:10.740 we have other people doing that because i'm i'm coming in with a bag full of you don't want to

01:18:16.320 know um yeah but you can't like everybody can't be everything right and that's the thing is like

01:18:22.300 this podcast is so good because you guys are glib you're funny right you you do you deliver a lot of

01:18:28.960 really good insights really like harsh truths in a in a very like fun and enjoyable way and uh yeah

01:18:36.480 you're not meant to be like the uh you know the like you can't do every single role so i i really

01:18:42.860 appreciate what you guys do and and i always i have your tweets on notification they're like

01:18:47.000 criminally under liked if anyone's listening to your show but doesn't follow you on x or doesn't

01:18:51.460 have you on notifications i think that's like a horrible crime like you're missing out on some of

01:18:56.540 like the most under viewed awesome takes on x it's it's really uh it's really a shame it's crime

01:19:02.780 against humanity and for people who i know there's probably some confusion about this out there i do

01:19:10.340 like praise i do like

01:19:14.040 you know i'm i'm a fan of no good things happening to me and only me actually um i wanted to call

01:19:25.960 attention to this right here uh because we got there's so much we're having such a great time

01:19:31.000 there's so much we can talk about because this this whole discourse has spider webbed out since

01:19:35.460 we first talked about this i'm looking here and this is a we're going to do a live thing this has

01:19:42.080 never been done before ladies and gentlemen i'm looking at a meta prime poll who talks about their

01:19:47.700 sexual experiences with their friends more men you are a man and it's a whether you're a male or

01:19:53.540 whether you're a female men or women now what do we think i don't get it judas what okay who if

01:19:59.880 you're in a group of friends right all guy friends um how often do you talk about girlfriend wife

01:20:07.580 some maybe even let's say girlfriend or wife how explicitly do you almost never almost never

01:20:14.300 anything sexual uh true and that is like and i have genuine conversations about sexual experiences

01:20:21.140 or make or make rude jokes because like we make sex jokes all the time but i never actually talk

01:20:26.640 about having sex with my wife like that's crazy yes sexual experiences is what's this getting at

01:20:32.460 like are you sharing the the lurid details like essentially never 0.98

01:20:36.660 yeah and so my that's

01:20:42.000 sorry there's a bit of lag there i think no no that was my bad i was just gonna say like this

01:20:48.180 sprang from a conversation we were having in a in a group chat and uh the the insight that

01:20:54.180 basically women uh oh man can i tell the story about the oh yeah so so one of one of our good

01:21:04.280 mutual friends who will remain unnamed but he's a he's a very chadley guy and and um yeah i think

01:21:09.820 you guys will eventually have him on the podcast maybe you can get him to cope to this story but

01:21:13.240 he was dating a nurse and he goes in to to pick her up for a date or something like that

01:21:18.640 and he's like hey i'm you know i'm here to pick up you know alicia or not alicia that's it

01:21:23.720 sarah you know say alia alia okay yeah uh and and she's like oh and she calls him by some name

01:21:33.080 that it's not his name and he's really confused by this um and so she she goes and she gets the

01:21:38.640 girl and they go on the date and later that day he's like why did she call me this name and uh

01:21:44.380 her so his nurse girl that he's dating basically tells him well you know um that's what you think 0.99

01:21:51.260 your dick looks like and he's like what like did you describe my dick to that like why do they 0.99

01:21:57.820 think this and she's like no no we shared dick photos like between ourselves like all the time 0.99

01:22:03.260 hey alia chicken dick is here and it's just like that blew my mind uh i think there was a few guys 0.96

01:22:12.780 and and like so we started talking about this and we actually have like a very uh small number of 0.97

01:22:18.040 women in in the chat we try to you know balance it out i am trying to like i do you know a little

01:22:24.280 bit of an aside but i do think that the way that women can be in the space in a healthy way

01:22:28.780 is that high value women sort out uh high value men to low value men the low value men will defer

01:22:36.020 to women they will um you know agree with them right you've seen all of these videos with the

01:22:41.480 bear question of guys saying like, it totally makes sense for girls to pick the bear. It's like, 0.76

01:22:45.780 I want to get to that next. But so, so that sorts it out. And so if you're, uh, if you really want

01:22:52.540 to take control of these grifter people entering the space, what you need to do is you need to 1.00

01:22:58.320 control the high value women. Right. And this is the same with a, you know, a good marriage, 1.00

01:23:02.140 right. The way that you, uh, keep your women in like a good frame is you establish yourself as 0.85

01:23:07.300 the leader, right. You put her in a good environment, right. And that's kind of what

01:23:10.880 i'm what i'm hoping to provide there right is get some of the like the good women in the space right

01:23:16.040 like provide them this nice strong uh you know assertive structure so they can feel like grounded

01:23:20.680 in their opinions but so when we have this conversation and the the conclusion is that 0.93

01:23:26.960 women are insanely uh you know promiscuous or they'll talk about these sexual experiences 0.99

01:23:33.780 if you hang out or or adjacent to any groups of women you'll hear the most vulgar and explicit 1.00

01:23:41.000 things you've ever heard um fuck if you've ever had to for whatever reason like if you've ever 1.00

01:23:46.600 been like a cleaner and cleaned a women's public washroom it is a fucking nightmare of like gossip 0.99

01:23:52.900 and just it looks like one of our chats actually they talk about women the exact same way we do 0.99

01:23:58.400 i don't know why they're mad at us but just the the vitriol they will scrawl upon the walls about 0.99

01:24:04.740 each other um but like women they talk about their fucking boyfriends or husbands dick sizes 0.99

01:24:11.360 which you know is like i've never have you heard a man discuss any part of his wife's or girlfriend's 1.00

01:24:18.160 body you imagine a guy showing up and talking about the depth of his girlfriend's vagina

01:24:22.040 what what have you ever heard that you probably never heard that like how would that even come 1.00

01:24:26.780 up in a conversation they're over here fucking trading dick pics like pokemon cards i thought 1.00

01:24:31.180 you bitches didn't like getting dick pics it's kind of a red herring because like i can imagine 1.00

01:24:35.020 a uh tate type character saying that but then i would know it would be a red flag they're like 1.00

01:24:40.160 oh i don't like you like you're not even you're not even the sort of person i want to talk to if 0.98

01:24:44.760 that's this like you're gonna you're gonna talk about that shit and what you expect me to talk 0.98

01:24:49.700 about my wife like no i'm not i'm not here for it bye and also got one from a quite requited here 0.98

01:24:56.160 he says men will say they hit it every now and then but rarely go into details unless there's

01:25:00.740 a punchline uh women right i will do a play-by-play of commentary like i i will tell

01:25:05.960 a sex story if it involves something going wrong yeah like if you're on a cruise and the ship sank 0.72

01:25:13.000 like that would be a good story right yeah because if i because of the sex like if i if i'm having 0.99

01:25:19.520 sex and the story is that i broke my dick or something that's not a sex story that's a broken 0.99

01:25:24.740 dick story right right right and you only get a couple of those in life you can't you got you 1.00

01:25:30.960 can't you got to share them you can't keep that to yourself you can't keep that shit bottled up 0.99

01:25:35.480 and it definitely is like a thing where i'll talk to women later about like you know if we you know 0.98

01:25:42.940 we were in the bedroom and they can give you like the play-by-play and in your head you're just like

01:25:48.020 we had sex it was good you know like that is just the way that the male brain thinks about that and

01:25:53.380 especially i i absolutely you know agree with her quite it's like the most most guys will say it's

01:25:58.720 just like yeah we had sex you know like it's just so weird to want to talk about like the details

01:26:04.260 but evidently women love that stuff don't let me just tell the women but uh we don't remember it

01:26:08.640 half the time so i was gonna say we we got one from uh we got here james nope calling me on my 0.92

01:26:18.080 bullshit says i don't know about that though i met plenty of coom-brained dudes who focus on that 0.63

01:26:24.140 very well could be the case my wife told me a story about like um i don't know this sounds 0.98

01:26:29.820 real enough she wouldn't just make up this story but she was working in an office and there were

01:26:33.860 all these guys were kind of huddled around each other because like one guy had gotten a new like

01:26:38.720 porn app you know and they're all like watching porn together or just having a look at it which

01:26:45.400 always you know there's one story from when i was growing up i i don't think i've ever told this

01:26:49.500 story on the show but it was i i really this stuck with me um because i would hear stories from like

01:26:55.380 shane gillis or something he has story about like him when he was a teenager him and his friends

01:27:00.200 like whacking off in the same room right i've never done that that's not an experience i ever

01:27:05.100 had this one story except no the one story was like there i was at this because i mean like a

01:27:10.260 couple other guys they have like a book this is back before internet porn so you had like

01:27:14.340 shit recorded on vhs tapes and he was showing us and then we're watching and he's like all right 0.99

01:27:20.540 now imagine that's your mom and he goes oh what the fuck he's like yeah not gonna be any boners 0.99

01:27:25.020 in my room and i'm like you know what that was the last of the real ones that kid he's like 0.99

01:27:31.040 none none of that shit in here i don't want none of you getting horned up and i'm like you know 0.80

01:27:36.900 what like i didn't appreciate it at the time i think that's one of the great stories all right 0.99

01:27:42.900 i gotta vote on this let's see who takes who talks about their sexual experiences the friends

01:27:46.660 were i'm a male i don't say women do what do we got bam 58.2 i think that was the crazy thing

01:27:54.360 about this poll is like men and women agree on that like it's a very rare thing that you have

01:28:00.460 something like this where it seems very encountering too do you think oh guys are so you

01:28:05.420 know meant to feel like they're they're terminally horny and you know women aren't and yeah both men

01:28:11.360 and women understand that no it's it's women who just like can't keep their mouth shut about the

01:28:15.900 the lurid details of their sexual experiences yeah now i want to get to this before we forget

01:28:22.720 now i don't have the original post here but i'm looking at one maybe we can just summarize it for

01:28:29.280 people okay there's been a question that was prompted um in a tiktok video i saw maybe if

01:28:35.540 someone can link it or whatever like we can watch it but the question was would you rather be alone

01:28:42.280 in a forest with a bear i don't think they give the type of bear but let's just say a bear

01:28:47.380 or a man and they're interviewing the women and it seems that not all but the vast majority of

01:28:53.780 women say that they choose the bear um let me just look at a couple of comments here sorry just

01:29:01.140 before i go on uh we got one here from cornish jack this guy's self-sort into gooner and non-gooner

01:29:07.860 friend groups at an early age i think fantastic point i think that maybe that puts the button on

01:29:14.040 the previous discussion we were having um let's see oh we got james nope here saying sex is okay

01:29:20.320 and all but i personally prefer drugs fair enough uh you're gonna hear no scoffing from me um we got

01:29:29.500 one here from a majestic cheese 88 that's cal i have an ungood authority that's cal

01:29:35.400 seeing the frequency of the posts and the attitude i would agree uh guys on our side give tate too 0.53

01:29:43.460 much leeway and begrudging credit even from us mulatto naggers at least he's red pilling kids 0.98

01:29:50.160 only because we're popular already makes the his breed and celebrity did he make a fucking two-parter 0.98

01:29:55.940 comment of course he did okay here's the second part of his comment because he capped out all 0.95

01:30:01.260 right off the arbitrage between heart tangentially related political charge rants and a constant

01:30:05.320 attack on public decency now imagine that is it is there a third one here no i'm seeing dots okay 0.99

01:30:11.600 he's just it's just ha ha he's laughing at you for reading it now imagine this in your fucking dms 0.94

01:30:17.420 all right let's see okay i got some links here i'm just opening these up hold up 0.95

01:30:27.040 if this is what i think it is okay yeah so this was a later one uh so the first video

01:30:38.000 was uh some some one of those like tiktok guys that goes out in the street and talks to women

01:30:43.920 or, you know, people and ask them questions. So, and he's, you know, if you're in the alone in the

01:30:49.140 forest, would you, you know, would you rather be with a bear or with a man and the, all the women 0.87

01:30:52.480 are, you know, answering bear. And so that's why it went viral, went viral on TikTok and kind of 0.96

01:30:57.200 bled into X. Um, but Paul's post here, uh, woman, uh, he's, he's a great account too. Um, good

01:31:03.700 mutual of mine, but he put up this video that came from TikTok where this woman is asking her

01:31:09.760 husband what he would do and this is definitely worth listening to at least like the first minute

01:31:15.300 um and he he answers bear and then she like starts to laugh at him and think that he's ridiculous and

01:31:24.100 and you could tell that he's like dumbfounded by this he's like wait why does the internet think

01:31:29.340 the bear is safer and and so it's this clash of like the woman online zeitgeist agreeing like

01:31:37.200 irrationality brain clashing with this poor unsuspecting guy who like didn't didn't realize

01:31:43.560 this was going to be like a gotcha tiktok video and now he has to like you can look at it in his

01:31:48.080 face like the realization that his wife is just this completely irrational being it's it's very 0.54

01:31:52.880 entertaining so and let me just say if you are confronted by a woman wife sister girlfriend 0.96

01:31:58.340 was asking you a question and with a phone in your face i tell you what brother you shoot her 0.99

01:32:06.140 in her face wicked sick all right now let's give this a peek shall we would you rather 0.99

01:32:13.360 our daughter be in the woods with a bear or a man 0.95

01:32:19.180 i i would say a man

01:32:24.720 why because i could be that man no not you a stranger okay someone i don't know yeah versus

01:32:33.200 a brown bear any brown bear i'm just assuming that's what that is such a good question that 0.99

01:32:38.340 it appears no woman has ever thought of because any guy fuck that not a hunter any man a guy with 1.00

01:32:46.040 a dick and two balls is like what type of bear if it's a black bear like what the fuck we even 1.00

01:32:50.040 talking about he's gonna like come he's gonna be a dog for because he thinks he got chips or 1.00

01:32:55.020 something if it's a grizzly bear brown bear different story but she's like it doesn't

01:32:58.860 bears are big and bad oh i'm mad already i'm sorry i'm i'm fuming whether black bear brown bear

01:33:05.780 just a bear i think i'd still say man really you want our 13 year old daughter to be if you if i

01:33:12.640 found a 13 year old in the woods i would be like okay let me try and help you with safety

01:33:16.960 and a bear would be like rawr i'm gonna eat you the odds are better with the man like the odds

01:33:22.760 are better i know that's true i think you're just assuming that all men are like you no we'll just 1.00

01:33:26.400 take like 10 people i'm i'm sorry like i gotta like break kayfabe your wife's a bitch 1.00

01:33:32.240 your wife your wife is a cunt and making a mockery of you 1.00

01:33:36.680 like if like what is this just one banana hovering in the background 1.00

01:33:41.640 and what looks to be like a fucking ring light for content producing this is a 0.99

01:33:49.620 a shambles of a life if i was this guy i would for the first and last time clean that fucking 0.99

01:33:55.840 kitchen up which would include throwing the ring light in a goddamn bin and i would tell her that 1.00

01:34:00.820 she needs to uh clean it up not not the kitchen but like the the house her life what is this shit 1.00

01:34:07.880 she yeah you're right she's clearly she thinks she's a fucking tiktok influencer and she's 1.00

01:34:13.200 harassing her poor husband can i just say this i'm trying to you know create a through line here 0.98

01:34:18.360 these are the women's telling you how to get more women in the space yeah i'm just going to keep

01:34:26.100 watching this for a second because i getting mad is the only thing that brings me joy anymore

01:34:31.000 well real quick before you chris start again so i think what's so crazy about this video in my mind

01:34:37.480 is when you first hear someone talk to you about like the bear question right if you haven't heard

01:34:42.000 about this like if you're listening to this blood satellite podcast and you're like i haven't heard

01:34:47.300 the bear question i'm not terminally on x or tiktok or whatever you're like there's no way this

01:34:52.640 is real right there's no way that people are this delusional and then you watch a video like this

01:34:58.440 and you just like lose all faith in humanity it's it's just mind-blowing

01:35:03.020 yeah and it's like okay like just to take it and you know i'm gonna watch it for a second before i

01:35:09.100 give the serious talk here and then say six out of ten men are good those are better odds than one

01:35:15.580 bear like leaving my child with a bear what is the bear bear can't feed the child the bear could

01:35:19.820 eat the child these are great points hopefully read stories pass the time and get them to safety

01:35:26.160 walk up stream bears will just take you to their stream and you just watch them like eat food and

01:35:30.900 stuff or like i said the bear would like would maul the child look i i got a d in stats in

01:35:38.420 college so i'm just trying to weigh my options here the bear it's not like homeward bound like

01:35:42.280 a bear will kill you so i'm just watching because i like this guy i like how his mind works like he

01:35:47.320 was just prompted this question these are all very sensible on the spot points of in my opinion a

01:35:52.740 pretty quick mind he's like well they can leave like i'm he's walking through it logically which

01:35:57.960 is more thought like what she thought was man men rape that's what men do so you know all men if 0.87

01:36:04.840 like if you see a man on his own well he's definitely a rapist you know what i mean like

01:36:10.820 like if i'm a guy and i see a little girl in the woods that's i guess maybe that's a trap

01:36:15.680 maybe if i go and help her why is she in the woods maybe if i'm a guy and see a child in the woods

01:36:21.120 there's a higher likelihood that another man is using her as bait yeah to bring me to his sex

01:36:26.220 dungeon this again this is the male logic at work this is why don't you never help a kid in the woods

01:36:35.660 and like what are they like honestly if you're a guy guys watch this you know if you see a kid in

01:36:40.160 the woods 99 of the time that's a ghost that is a a grim specter beckoning you to some kind of

01:36:49.660 swamp some kind of witch's lair you know like again this would never occur to a woman's mind

01:36:55.340 because they only see there's someone who wants my holes you know maybe maybe maybe if i'm in the 0.96

01:37:00.840 woods i'm not thinking about sex at all maybe i'm thinking there could be bears out here 0.99

01:37:05.460 all right uh here we go sorry i'm doing a lot of kel shit here no polar bear ever asked me who 0.99

01:37:12.360 hurt me that might kill you yes everyone everything might kill you but like what are you gonna do 0.98

01:37:16.840 jump up in the tree the bear's like trying to get her while like a random man maybe the man's lost 0.98

01:37:21.080 too and they can help each other out now if the man was living in the woods and wanted to be away

01:37:23.600 for some reason then that would be suspect but if they're both like lost and they need to find

01:37:27.120 if my daughter stumbled across ted kaczynski that would be fucking awesome 0.85

01:37:32.380 like how if well why well he wasn't known to be one of these sex guys i don't want to hear now 0.98

01:37:41.880 had kaczynski would help your daughters if they were low in the woods my legit fear with kaczynski 0.68

01:37:48.040 is he'd look at like one of their hairpins and be like is that made in china is that imported here

01:37:53.800 in a in a oil fuel tanker he'd shoot at them with that trying to hit their cell phones and

01:38:02.120 so this is a woman definers reaction we have officially hit peak bear discourse wives are now

01:38:08.740 long housing their husbands over the bear question my favorite part is when he suddenly realizes his 0.93

01:38:12.980 wife is a retard he is what his math is a wife of see you next tuesday and this is why the bear 0.86

01:38:20.560 discourse matters everyone on the internet picked the bear there it is that's why she and that's 0.99

01:38:25.300 kind of where it ends the wife says everyone picked the bear so part of this is the hive mind

01:38:29.300 at work yeah we call it the long nose or whatever but honestly the more interesting morsel here to

01:38:35.820 me is the operative words being used here so it's not that it's bear versus a man and women are

01:38:45.580 responding to a man as a negative and it's not qualified as a male stranger or something like

01:38:52.080 that but it's like they're the immediate response when they hear a man is negative and i think that

01:38:59.780 is the most salient point to be made here that without thinking about without employing any of

01:39:05.800 the daydream type logic that guys are immediately engaging in the woman just hears a man says oh a

01:39:12.160 man a man's bad a man on his on his own man is bad a bear is better and of course of course you

01:39:19.600 don't want a bear especially because here's what another guy would said well is it a

01:39:23.600 is it a mother bear are her cubs nearby then you're dead you're dead right away

01:39:30.400 anyway so what are your thoughts on this judas and meta i've ranted

01:39:37.200 yeah i mean my whole thing right is this is i think i said this at the beginning this is like

01:39:41.440 a two for one so one like you just get to see how like logically crazy women are about this i

01:39:48.400 Somebody had, because I had been posting about this yesterday, I think it's insanely hilarious.

01:39:53.680 But somebody posted like, I kind of see where women are coming from. 0.97

01:39:57.040 It's like, you know, a guy could rape you where it's worse to be raped by a guy than 0.99

01:40:02.360 it is to be mauled by a bear. 0.99

01:40:03.860 Have you ever been raped by a bear? 0.99

01:40:05.280 I bet it's worse. 0.99

01:40:07.940 That too.

01:40:09.080 But it's also like, that's not your options.

01:40:11.380 Your options are random guy or bear, right? 1.00

01:40:14.120 And so it's just this really drives home the point that just women operate off fives and that's fine. 1.00

01:40:21.240 You know, it's like this is something that we need to come to terms with. 1.00

01:40:24.080 I was going to say this earlier is we we've been fed so many lies in the mainstream.

01:40:30.160 And one of the most pernicious lies is this idea that women are the same.

01:40:35.100 Right. They're equally capable. They see the world the same way.

01:40:38.500 They experience the world the same way. Right. All this kind of stuff.

01:40:41.200 It's fine that women are different. Right. 1.00

01:40:42.920 like we're complimentary that's that's how it's meant to be but this completely screws all of

01:40:48.560 these guys who are interacting with women as if they're the same thing right um and it's just not

01:40:54.660 how they think the other piece of this and i it's kind of what i said earlier is that women become

01:40:59.660 the filter for low value guys versus high value guys and so you'll see a lot of these videos

01:41:05.320 there's this one uh other one that's out there this guy he plays the the question and then he

01:41:11.000 like asks google all the different statistics he's like how many people are attacked by bears how

01:41:16.960 many people are this and then he's like how many people are raped a year and obviously the rape

01:41:22.580 like the number of rapes that happen are much higher but it's this just complete ignorance of

01:41:28.940 per capita and i don't know if you guys like to to kind of like you know play around with the

01:41:33.880 per capita idea but but to me like per capita is like do we do we like so sorry go ahead

01:41:48.380 oh it's fantastic so yeah i mean again it's it's you're it's a twofer in the sense that you get to 0.94

01:41:55.300 see the insanity of women in the illogical brain and then you just get to see all these guys who 1.00

01:42:00.300 just have no understanding of per capita or who will willingly ignore the whole per capita idea 0.98

01:42:05.820 in order to kind of say the right thing. And to me, that's a sorting mechanism. And so you kind

01:42:11.820 of know who's able to think for themselves versus who, you know, is going to defer to women out 0.98

01:42:16.040 there. Also, you know, just to reiterate this point, these men deeply care about their women

01:42:24.360 who are prompting them with these questions. And he does have to look at like, oh, my God,

01:42:28.560 you don't have the survival instinct to survive on your own that's a harsh realization this is

01:42:36.980 what a lot of people realize like oh my god you would wander into traffic he's he's thinking like

01:42:41.340 you know next month when we take our vacation if you go off trail and i lose track of you

01:42:45.700 and someone comes to save you you will run from them but if you saw a bear you would run toward

01:42:51.100 it so i think we're going to cancel that vacation like i think i think i can't take you into the

01:42:56.280 woods now there's a point to be made here just to kind of cycle back to ratfam hitler we talked

01:43:02.260 about her once on the show that's why you know we kind of bring her up because i think people

01:43:05.740 will be familiar with her um she had made a point before and a lot of women especially in the right

01:43:11.120 make this point as well they try sort of like a right coded feminist point which is that the

01:43:16.020 women are the keepers of the genetic code they need to be very selective with their men because 0.89

01:43:21.800 they birth the progeny and they need to filter for the best genes um so that is why in radfam 1.00

01:43:29.440 hitler's point i think i am steel man at this point that women need to be like they're almost 0.98

01:43:34.580 pro hypergamy like they're like sure sure as shit we're hypergamous i would rather be with 1.00

01:43:39.560 seven of my whore friends and fuck this like ripped billionaire than you know like you've 1.00

01:43:44.680 heard you can see them make this point before but you know i kind of get in the weeds on this point 0.99

01:43:49.760 i'm not even sure if i completely believe it but it tastes good when i say it so it's like if you

01:43:55.580 look at our society right now your best bet for survival would actually be sort of a dweeby rich

01:44:04.500 guy like he could actually provide you genetically the best you know situation for you to raise your

01:44:12.180 kids and in fact a lot of the the archetypes and qualities that you might be attracted to would also

01:44:18.160 be the archetypes of a rapist um which ironically i'm not even saying i defend this but it would be 0.51

01:44:24.340 like evolutionarily you're kind of stuck in the past which means that you're probably the worst

01:44:30.000 gatekeepers of the genetic code if we are indeed in an advanced society logic would dictate that 0.98

01:44:36.060 you should be mate selecting for the highest iq people but you seem to regularly select for lower 0.99

01:44:42.740 iq people not only that you employ hypergamy to go for lower iq people you actually don't want 0.99

01:44:48.720 the fucking tech genius who could give you many genius kids you want maybe so like a fucking 0.99

01:44:55.340 a flexing retard like andrew tay you know you see what i'm saying so it's like 1.00

01:45:00.020 your charge of being keepers of the genetic code for a lot of these women don't seem terribly good 0.98

01:45:06.300 now that's an extreme point i understand that people might be retreating from that but i just

01:45:10.680 wanted to put that out there yeah I mean I think you're right right it goes back to this whole

01:45:15.920 idea of like we can't out simp the left right and and there's kind of two parts to the woman brain

01:45:22.040 right there's the subconscious brain of like I am attracted to chads who are strong and tall and

01:45:29.100 you know athletic and then I am and then there's the the conscious brain that's been told like

01:45:33.480 oh you know I guys need to be touchy-feely and you know they need to defer to me and like you

01:45:38.960 know they're evil and all this kind of stuff and so like this is i've you know been in the

01:45:43.740 the dating realm uh for a little while at a long-term relationship before that 0.61

01:45:47.840 and i can tell you like modern dating is just it's just like amazingly crazy women just everywhere

01:45:54.100 and if you ever tell them that you kind of lean in a conservative uh bent especially if you're on

01:45:58.920 like kind of the east coast enemy territory that i'm at like that they'll immediately react to that

01:46:05.420 they'll have like a knee knee jerk reaction and they'll you know reject you but if you just don't

01:46:09.700 even say anything if you just exist as kind of like a you know good looking assertive like they

01:46:15.020 love that and and so this is the problem that we have is we have this like you can't explicitly 0.58

01:46:21.140 tell women any of the conservatives i'm sure you've seen those tiktoks where the girls are like

01:46:25.760 i wish i could date a liberal guy who had conservative like who was also a conservative

01:46:31.120 right it's like all the conservative guys you know they'll hold the door open for you they'll

01:46:35.340 take care of you all this kind of stuff right but they want the guy who's doing the social signaling

01:46:40.420 right and so like they just they have this catch-22 like non-existent like not possible

01:46:47.880 guy that they want in their heads and yeah i think it kind of screws up their ability we also had

01:46:53.740 like a conversation uh last night with um amy therese and a bunch of other people for the space

01:46:59.080 promoting a podcast that just went live with her where we dive a lot into this it's very timely

01:47:04.020 and one of the girls that came up uh a account called i think lonely pomegranate and she was

01:47:09.800 saying that you know um birth control and its uh result resulting effects have been dire for the

01:47:15.980 human race and i that's another big thing that we uh we talk a lot about so um i'm sure you have

01:47:21.700 some some thoughts on that dimes oh yeah so i was just pulling up amy therese's thing here i saw

01:47:26.540 that your um episode with her had actually uh gone live i was just trying to find that right now

01:47:32.360 um i was gonna say you have the you don't use the dark version of of x man this is just okay

01:47:38.640 this is abomination okay again there's a there's a lot of possibility coming towards me i if you 1.00

01:47:47.280 guys don't want to do this we can stop just fuck the fuck it i don't stupid everything's stupid 1.00

01:47:54.520 i i don't use dark themes um and i i guess i should that's what i'm told 1.00

01:48:01.300 um you know what here here we go sell me on the dark no no amy terese it's just very bright

01:48:11.060 it's just very bright but yeah yeah i mean look she she retweeted uh blood satellite she's obviously

01:48:15.800 cool she she's what she's one of the bloods that's what we call fans of blood satellite obviously

01:48:22.220 um sorry okay oh geez guys got james up here dime screen gives me the ick uh see this this

01:48:30.300 is how it turns this is how the discourse sours against me sorry just could you briefly repeat

01:48:36.800 your points i've got i got too far in the weeds and your question about about the um oh we were

01:48:42.140 just talking about yeah i mean it's it's that catch 22 and i'm sure a lot of guys know this

01:48:46.920 you can't be like you know it's it's funny right that barbie rant that they have that like breaks

01:48:51.420 all the barbies out of uh you know their their patriarchal um you know hypnosis or whatever it is

01:48:58.460 right where she's like women you know you can't be like to this or to that or whatever right like

01:49:03.180 that's actually how i feel like it is for guys with women right like that's the thing is everything

01:49:09.480 in the mainstream is just inverted right it's like oh it's toxic masculinity that's ruining

01:49:13.760 everything and now it's toxic tolerance right it's all of these kind of tough things um but yeah i

01:49:19.280 i forget the point i remember the point i was going to make to you which was that if you listen

01:49:23.520 to a woman describe her dream man as you just did they're describing a gay man i mean could he be 0.98

01:49:32.580 ripped but also nice and we can go shopping shut the fuck up and to your point you just said which 0.99

01:49:37.220 is that let's take that barbie rant so you're discussing the the big speech from the barbie 0.99

01:49:44.360 film where and you've heard this before i heard this from feminist ideologues they're going like 1.00

01:49:48.760 it's the madonna whore thing you can't be perfect you're not allowed to be a slut you're not allowed 1.00

01:49:54.140 to be a virginal you're not allowed to be and and they're talking about these extremes that 1.00

01:49:59.080 they're expected to live somewhere between to which i would say yeah it's called being normal 1.00

01:50:04.640 you're not allowed to be a saint or or or a fucking whore i'm like yeah just do it the in 0.99

01:50:11.060 between you're allowed that you know what that middle is it's called monogamous relationships 1.00

01:50:15.720 you fucking hoe like every time i hear these women about talk about these poles that they live 1.00

01:50:20.480 between yeah that's guys too it's like fuck you have to be assertive but you can't rape them 1.00

01:50:24.720 yeah you know what i mean it's like yeah of course of course you're expected to not to live 0.99

01:50:31.640 between extremes to be a fucking normal person negotiating their way in the world and i i'm i 0.96

01:50:38.620 keep hearing these rants and speeches by women telling me how hard it is to be a woman they 0.98

01:50:45.120 can't wrap their heads around how to do it right you expect me to do these things yeah i didn't 0.94

01:50:51.080 think it was that fucking hard i didn't think it was hard to just be nice sometimes and be mean 0.98

01:50:56.580 other times which one is it am i supposed to like be a whore in the bedroom and a normal girl 1.00

01:51:02.620 outside of the bedroom yeah bitch i think what the fuck are we talking about every woman in america 1.00

01:51:09.140 i saw this fucking we moms brought their daughters to it if you if you don't know how to wrap your 1.00

01:51:15.840 head around this you don't legally get to have a fucking vagina when i'm in charge like you have 1.00

01:51:21.580 to have a license for that shit a lot of these bitches don't seem to be be mentally capable of 1.00

01:51:27.200 doing it sorry wrong you don't get it yeah it's it's a privilege not a right in dimes is canada 1.00

01:51:34.640 well the funny thing too is like girls will ask advice every once in a while 0.67

01:51:39.520 you know what makes a good relationship literally the only thing that women need to do

01:51:45.160 to make a man happy is be happy themselves right if you're you're happy if you're friendly if you're

01:51:52.140 you know like if you're you know like just just like a pleasant person to be around like that's

01:51:58.540 really it it's not it's really not that hard like guys just want pleasant women and that's the code

01:52:05.280 women like i'm not you know it was not some big secret that we're trying to hide from you just

01:52:09.760 like be pleasant and like there's a biological imperative for men to protect and provide for

01:52:16.180 women so on some level if a man is paired with a woman and that woman seems like satisfied and just

01:52:23.880 generally relaxed and happy he's thrilled i mean that's that's it man we're great we're good but 0.69

01:52:30.400 even if you're even you like women think they're helping but they're asking all kinds of questions

01:52:34.080 and they're trying to fix things and they're trying to tweak things now he's on edge because 0.87

01:52:37.540 what did i do wrong like it's uh yeah like like you said just just fucking be happy just and just

01:52:43.220 relax and let me just say this for the ladies we are not asking you to be this you don't need to 0.87

01:52:50.440 be pearl davis pearl davis nice girl i'm sure has written some offensive songs on the acoustic

01:52:58.140 guitar that i'm sure we all enjoy but she's the type who goes a bit too far probably because

01:53:04.240 she's got you know that male form of autism uh where she she'll go out into in like a t-shirt 0.98

01:53:10.280 that says like i'm a dumb bitch don't give me the right to vote and just to the ladies out there 0.99

01:53:16.520 to meta's point men men want pleasant women you don't need to be a dummy and in fact i i know 0.99

01:53:22.620 pearl davis is probably out there uh looking for love at the deaf comedy jam but uh guys don't want 0.98

01:53:29.840 to marry a retard they don't want to marry a woman who's out there saying i'm dumb don't listen to me 0.98

01:53:36.920 like we don't want that that's embarrassing to our friends we actually want to have a woman who 1.00

01:53:43.240 is respectable and can have a conversation like you don't need to dumb yourself down and if you 0.99

01:53:49.220 do like you just got the wrong read on what guys want i don't think any guy wants just a fucking 1.00

01:53:53.100 dingbat moron you bring her around the guys and she just barfs out turds all the time you don't 0.99

01:53:59.700 want that so for all the women are like well you know i read too first of all don't read second of 1.00

01:54:06.400 all no one should read i'm not even saying that about women guys stop i read because i'm doomed

01:54:11.560 i'll do all the reading everyone else you're so you read so that i don't have to play hockey 0.61

01:54:18.520 play you know basketball with paraplegic kids do whatever it is you gotta do to feel better

01:54:26.140 about yourself um so we gotta requite it here smoke a pipe and use a straight razor save money

01:54:34.940 sure uh magnetic dreams just says brown not sure but sure um aro post a good friend of the show

01:54:44.960 had aro post on he's calling you a jewish whoa whoa whoa whoa don't know the context

01:54:51.320 i don't know the context um here we go dave martell great friend of the show personal friend 1.00

01:54:58.820 of mine uh he says i say this all the time you can just choose to be happy stop being fucking 0.51

01:55:03.700 miserable just be nice dave is a really cool guy such a swell guy not like oros post dave is an 0.97

01:55:09.740 absolute peach i think we should hear oros post out jews does he mean me too

01:55:16.660 no art say it ain't so yeah so also so dave martell says keep buying books of course buy

01:55:25.580 the books from the archives by the the works created by our guys bands world magazine all

01:55:33.680 the stuff we produce just uh put that up sorry continue matter no i was i was just gonna say

01:55:38.220 kind of going off the the jews uh accusation uh so i'm i'm half irish and evidently i didn't know

01:55:46.000 that uh you know i have evidently a lot of reason to be ashamed of my irish heritage evidently

01:55:51.120 irish or like the the black whites or something like that yeah um but also irish guys and italian

01:55:58.500 guys are the ones that or you're allowed to hate if you're like a liberal too it's really it's so

01:56:03.800 sad but i i also ran into uh this great conspiracy theory someone put together where like irish men

01:56:11.820 are uh like running different parts of like the financial world or something like that yeah

01:56:17.580 well the funny thing is like you know you're not to like take it to a serious place like

01:56:24.520 in the discourse on like groups that run the world there's a pretty large contingent that

01:56:30.140 are still going after the dutch and like going after actually you guys think it's used but it's

01:56:35.040 actually the british crown and like they get you get deep in history which actually is true 0.89

01:56:40.840 in a sense but it is just funny to be like you know actually fuck the dutch and i'm like okay 0.89

01:56:47.380 well that's you have to sell a lot of people we got our groups that we're going after now don't 0.97

01:56:51.560 bring in a new group hey uh dimes will you talk about the connection between the giant psychic

01:56:57.640 female dictatorship richard shaver talked about in his works the connection to the venus statuette

01:57:01.840 star fire and the hidden war between the sky fatherville and the earth mother star fire 0.76

01:57:05.540 i don't know you know what i don't know that one i have no fucking clue what any of that means 0.55

01:57:13.720 i think uh uh meta 0.59

01:57:16.260 yeah that's not really my wheelhouse so

01:57:21.240 you know um what i would say and you know what can be said that hasn't been said

01:57:30.040 what i'm gonna say on that is it's a very complicated situation it's been there you go

01:57:40.920 the dave martell was i mean i i'm willing i don't just to be serious i don't know

01:57:46.420 too much about that i'd be interested in learning more um this is something we actually you know if

01:57:52.680 we're getting into sort of esoteric astrological stuff ironically one person to have on for that

01:57:58.820 would be a philosopher cat who i'm sure might land on a not different end of this discussion

01:58:05.780 um but you know she we had her on the show and it was a fantastic interview i had a great time

01:58:11.020 discussing julius evola um and astrology and some of the more magical parts of evola which don't

01:58:18.860 get brought up a lot so you know maybe she knows about that i don't get too much into the psychic

01:58:23.280 stuff um okay they're still litigating about the the okay so we got so judas so they're pretty

01:58:32.340 much figuring out that jew is in your name um maybe we've been doing this for like six years

01:58:38.200 like i've we've been through it already i gotta change my name though i promise one day 0.65

01:58:43.580 dave martell evola is gay not gonna lie fair enough we kind of moved past evola haven't we

01:58:51.160 you don't hear him get brought up except like academic agent or something but there's not a lot 0.74

01:58:54.420 of not a lot of people talking about evola now nietzsche's nietzsche's in so do we solve women

01:59:00.840 did we do it well also um i wanted to just one more tweet from coffee and on this is uh 0.52

01:59:08.920 this is what we're up against back on the bear discourse women have awful risk assessment one

01:59:13.540 of the biggest mental sex differences as an example women will routinely play poker worse 0.59

01:59:17.880 than 13 year old boys women have an emotional bias to claim men are against them and this is

01:59:24.800 really what i was trying to get at because this has massive payoff in making men try to prove

01:59:29.420 that they are not that's an angle i don't think we addressed yet i think there's a lot of capital

01:59:34.660 there uh classic negotiation tactic exploit but it's baked into their world outlook and also we

01:59:40.260 mentioned this before women are revealed preference machines women will frequently say one thing but

01:59:46.380 do another a couple of examples of that i'm sure people can relate to you know people like you know

01:59:53.340 you see a celebrity like not taylor sweat what's her name miley cyrus say that oh i'm pansexual i

01:59:58.920 will date any man transgender man women whatever but they only date the same model of white guy

02:00:04.620 right or another thing is that you know women talk about being so lgbt friendly they give

02:00:10.540 themselves the title of genderqueer that's like the most popular title that teen girls will give

02:00:15.900 themselves which just happens to be the one where you don't need to do anything or change anything 0.98

02:00:19.960 about yourself it's just something you put on your fucking social media profile so point being that 0.98

02:00:24.980 women will often say and proclaim one thing but do something completely different so in in this in 0.99

02:00:31.960 this model they're saying oh i would be more afraid of the man well in that situation would

02:00:36.600 they actually is this all part of some theatrics here's a here's a thought we're identifying all

02:00:41.980 of this it's kind of the running theme of the whole stream tonight and we're frustrated with

02:00:46.520 it obviously we're trying to make a point right but are we saying we hate this and we wish they 1.00

02:00:51.440 would change or are we saying this is just how women are it's a biological imperative it actually

02:00:58.560 serves a purpose we need to just understand this and reorganize the way that we behave around women

02:01:03.900 because i'm kind of i'm feeling like i'm in the second camp to be honest like with some of this 0.97

02:01:07.620 stuff i'm glad that women are constantly shit testing because if they weren't i mean my wife 0.99

02:01:14.920 probably would have married some asshole instead of me you know what i mean like i'm this asshole 1.00

02:01:19.260 yeah that's fucking some some uh dweeb so but no really some other dweeb the whole concept of like 1.00

02:01:27.040 making making all men prove themselves or constantly manipulating like these things 0.98

02:01:32.160 seem bad at face value if you're in a liberal frame where you're saying why i thought you were 0.99

02:01:37.480 like a man i thought we were all equal and we all behave the same way and then you get fucked 0.97

02:01:41.120 and women win at every social game but this is a good point if you understand that women are 0.96

02:01:46.660 fundamentally different and you never treat them like women you treat them like a completely 0.64

02:01:50.880 different animal then this almost becomes a joyful exercise like the thrill of the hunt you 0.99

02:01:58.060 know what i mean like i think there's an element of this maybe we don't even have the experience

02:02:01.880 with because this has been going on for so many generations but i think on some level women being 0.98

02:02:07.980 fucking bitches is actually really cool and i would love it maybe my grandsons will love it i 0.99

02:02:14.520 don't know we'll see you it's like it's like when your girlfriend or whoever asks would you love me 1.00

02:02:19.860 if i was a worm and then what do you do do you get into a big argument or just say

02:02:24.800 yep yes i would and then she she's happy she's floating on a cloud the rest of the day that was 0.98

02:02:32.900 just an you'll have exchanges like that all the fucking time like would you love me of this 0.97

02:02:37.060 you know hypotheticals those are the hypotheticals women like we like hypotheticals like you know 0.99

02:02:42.340 would how would you take down an alligator if it had you know dog rabies and you think about it

02:02:48.420 very very seriously that's what guys do love it yeah i was laughing about that the just earlier

02:02:56.120 today i was thinking about all the differences men have between each other and all the lines

02:03:02.000 we draw politically religiously ideologically but the one thing you can do and this is what

02:03:06.940 joe rogan prove if you just slap on a nature documentary in a room full of these guys who

02:03:12.460 hate each other we'll be cool for like the duration of that nature documentary like you 1.00

02:03:18.960 get marxist fascist capitalist whatever just sitting there like monkeys are fucked up 0.99

02:03:24.700 they are and then some guys like would you how could you take on two monkeys every guy just goes 0.99

02:03:34.380 yeah good question how would you do it just like there's your next 45 minutes

02:03:42.080 and that's that's a magic thing and i you know women will see that and they will love it and 0.84

02:03:47.520 they will endorse that maybe i can endorse women's goofy hypotheticals i think they have the wrong

02:03:52.540 read on the bear thing i worry about them are women okay women are not okay deep down you know

02:03:58.840 this is all the big show we're doing but you can't be picking the bear it means you don't know enough

02:04:04.180 about bears and you've thought too much about how much you don't like men and i think that's

02:04:10.920 the heart of the problem yeah do you concur i do concur i think women i think women have always

02:04:22.320 picked the bear though probably explain i think i think it's again like is this the nature of of

02:04:31.780 liberalized atomized 21st century women or is this the nature of women because if it's just the

02:04:36.920 nature of women then women have always picked the bear and it's always been the role of man 1.00

02:04:40.440 to slap her down and say you idiot shut up that's stupid but we're in a we're in a frame right now 1.00

02:04:47.980 where the women literally are the ones censoring and controlling the entire social media platform 1.00

02:04:52.220 so that is that's true and there's a lot of guys who are like the only way i'm ever going to get a

02:04:57.740 little bit of poontang is by at least pretending that i have some decency and so you know i'm not 0.56

02:05:04.300 saying that's the case i'm i'm asking i'm asking the question i don't fucking know so so what was

02:05:10.720 that a word you used there poontang can we all just meditate on judas's a conversation mistake 0.77

02:05:23.560 no but i actually i like that point i like that like this is just a perennial game and this is

02:05:29.920 what i said about you know people will talk about this debate this flare-up like this is just a

02:05:36.540 distraction this is a distraction from other pressing issues this is a distraction from

02:05:41.220 hating israel whatever it might be sure but i actually i think it's deeper than that i think

02:05:46.420 this this isn't an ideological issue this isn't a religious issue this is a fundamental

02:05:52.960 human relations issue this is beneath everything if we're talking about men versus women and i

02:05:59.700 entire ideologies and outlooks are grow from that they emerge from that like we've been debating this

02:06:08.040 for thousands of years we really have they've been they were talking about this in ancient greece 0.84

02:06:13.060 this exact same shit because you know at least on the right we identify that there is a difference 0.93

02:06:20.240 between men and women that is essential but if we if we start with that then there's always going 0.99

02:06:26.000 to be conflict like this is the dialectic we are permanently not i don't even want to say trapped

02:06:31.980 within because they're i don't want an alternative a lot of the left is progressive they will desire

02:06:36.960 an alternative they'll desire a grand leveling but uh down on all people i actually i enjoy the

02:06:43.260 differences between men and women i think they're essential but that means that you're going to be 0.93

02:06:47.900 dealing with this shit forever and i think really what women are upset is that maybe power is tilted 0.99

02:06:54.680 too much in their favor so dumb men aren't allowed to say you goofy hoe there's times when you need 1.00

02:07:01.260 to be told shut up that's dumb you're being you're being a dummy right now and they say you know what 1.00

02:07:08.220 i am there's no mechanism in society for a guy for that sort of interaction to have except online 1.00

02:07:17.720 and when that does happen the women who the pick the army of fucking pick me's that we are cursed 0.99

02:07:24.420 with say that shouldn't be allowed on the rare occasion i'm i'm calling a bitch a dummy it's 0.99

02:07:30.260 like well this is a problem politically it's not a problem politically this is what guys and girls 0.96

02:07:35.100 do we call each other dumb we criticize each other but that yeah that has to be allowed and 0.97

02:07:40.480 that can't be offloaded onto the fucking state or whatever else they want to do with their problems 0.97

02:07:47.100 anyway that's a yeah that's what's the seventh angry rant i've been well and it's like also this 0.98

02:07:52.600 this like completely ridiculous notion that we aren't also uh you know just as dismissive and 0.97

02:08:00.180 mean to people who come out with like dumb bullshit comments themselves right like guys 1.00

02:08:04.860 in this space right someone's being an idiot in the space especially for us like it doesn't matter 1.00

02:08:10.260 if it's a guy or a girl but i don't know i think the fundamentally that and you just kind of said 0.98

02:08:16.260 it really well earlier that you know you have to have a good like community group around a woman

02:08:22.700 that can help like bring them back onto the right path right you have that inevitably everyone in

02:08:29.520 a relationship they're always going to have some sort of fight or friction moment with their

02:08:33.380 with their significant other right and the girl goes to her friends or family or whatever and in

02:08:38.620 the modern world those that group is always going to tell her like oh he's horrible you're so right

02:08:43.100 you know but it used to be the case that they would set her straight right and that's what we

02:08:47.400 really need to do is we need more people to kind of realize that um you know we can't just keep 0.99

02:08:54.840 having this drama this divisiveness this you know absolute retardation we need to we need to bring 0.99

02:09:00.140 it back somehow and and i think like the way that has to be done is you have to always provide that 0.98

02:09:05.820 structure right we need more other like good men around to like keep this is the other thing right

02:09:12.680 there's one like big point that I want to make about like how do we establish like new healthy

02:09:19.140 ideals and I think one of the big things is you have a lot of guys who are you know physically

02:09:24.280 fit they're successful they can hook up with a lot of women all that kind of stuff they need to

02:09:28.820 stop doing that right they need to just date intentionally they need to like help their

02:09:35.060 friends out right if like their if their friend's girlfriend is going to cheat on them like they

02:09:40.560 need to set them straight like we need to stop uh like taking advantage of that because i think 0.96

02:09:45.200 like that's the the counter reaction to a lot of this stuff is like all right women are crazy so 0.74

02:09:49.800 like don't care and just like sleep around and like you know play with their emotions and

02:09:54.600 manipulate them and all this kind of stuff i don't think that that's the right reaction either

02:09:58.200 it's more about like kind of being upstanding but it's it's just i don't know it's it's hard

02:10:03.180 to have faith that you're gonna get there uh and kind of like put in that effort early on and i

02:10:07.420 think that's why like you have all these like mgtow and incel guys it's like i completely

02:10:11.780 understand their point of view but you know dude it's a wasteland it's it's it's crazy out there

02:10:16.820 and if i can give a piece of advice to women and i say this as a wife guy so i'm allowed to have

02:10:23.900 opinions um there's this one i reference this in the haywall show i just recorded real secret

02:10:31.520 coffee hours on gumroad and patreon um talking about that aella post that's going to be a riot

02:10:36.580 but um what i was saying was there's this girl that i used to know at the last agency i worked

02:10:41.800 at and knowing her was very illuminating uh she was a white girl late 20s single um you know not

02:10:52.000 to get crude but i'd say six out of ten but you know she looking for love and she wanted to find

02:10:59.440 to find her husband and uh she serial monogamist is what we would call her so this is the taylor

02:11:06.440 swift demographic that's her listener base she loves romance movies loves true crime she watches

02:11:13.060 all the netflix shows that as a woman you're supposed to watch and i found having discussions

02:11:18.840 with her was very illuminating because one thing I noticed about her and other women like her is

02:11:24.000 they don't subscribe to creators or shows or influencers that really represent the life that

02:11:32.040 they would like to live but for example she wants to get married she has an idea of what the life 0.78

02:11:38.200 she wants to live but she doesn't listen to any married women she doesn't listen to any mothers

02:11:43.360 and they got shows there's all kinds of shows of like women who haven't figured out she only 1.00

02:11:47.740 listens to other single busted hoes that is you know not to be meaner that is the taylor swift 1.00

02:11:54.160 demographic you know she's an aw shucks kind of goofy kind of ditzy girl uh she's creative and 1.00

02:12:00.500 loves romance but she just hops from guy to guy and like if you for guys especially in our space

02:12:06.960 if you if you want to get in shape if you want to get jacked you will start listening to guys who

02:12:12.820 are jacked if you're listening to you know financial advice you'll listen to a rich guy 0.98

02:12:17.620 someone who's figured it out to emulate them and i find that women broadly don't they listen to

02:12:23.360 people they would like to emulate so they kind of get stuck in this feedback loop um or they listen

02:12:28.440 like i i'm looking for you know a girl will be looking to get married and she'll listen to call 0.98

02:12:32.100 her daddy which is just like a dumb whore podcast you know i mean so i'm like i would encourage 0.88

02:12:38.680 more women the women who obviously aren't listening to this but still like you know to create these 0.99

02:12:44.460 spaces i think and this is just my read on the situation women need to get more comfortable to

02:12:50.080 listening to people who aren't just representations of them currently they need more aspirational

02:12:56.120 individuals uh to to surround themselves with as as the men say your network is your net worth

02:13:02.960 that sounds kind of pithy and lame but it is true like you need to surround yourself

02:13:08.060 with winners and i think if more women did that they might find more spaces around other women 0.98

02:13:13.440 to actually congregate instead of trying to fucking sabotage each other in this crab bucket 0.92

02:13:18.320 mentality all the time you know what do you think about that yeah i know we've been going for a 0.74

02:13:24.760 while now it's i know people are probably getting tired no i mean i i agree like it's it's really

02:13:30.880 to what judas was saying earlier like there's a lot of people that pull a lot of women that will

02:13:35.620 pull other women down so i like the rf uh rfh stuff rad fam um like to me that's such a important

02:13:44.220 thing to touch on right like we were we were talking earlier about like why are we even talking

02:13:47.920 about this stuff? Like, why is it valuable? And to me, well, you know, in order for people to

02:13:54.720 have a horse in this fight, right, to have some real skin in the game, you want to have a family,

02:13:59.660 you want to have kids, right? So figuring out how to bring guys and girls together and start

02:14:05.780 building like better family relationships, like that has to be part of the discussion that we're

02:14:11.260 having broadly, right? There's definitely these more pertinent issues of crime, illegal immigration

02:14:16.460 and the trans agenda, I think those are kind of like the trinity of political issues that especially 0.84

02:14:22.540 in this election season. But making sure that men actually have a realistic understanding of

02:14:30.880 how women work and finding a way to bridge that gap back together, I think that's going to be

02:14:37.500 part of what needs to be done if there's a solution that happens broadly. And then we also

02:14:42.300 have to have internal unity in the group that's trying to do that right and if you have just 0.99

02:14:47.280 vitriolic toxic women like rfh who are being given a fucking platform by alex kashuta and 1.00

02:14:55.580 you know it's just shit like that just bugs the hell out of me um because no one should be 1.00

02:15:02.340 listening to these people right like times you came on my podcast like a while ago right and 0.99

02:15:07.080 you were like no one needs to make another fucking podcast like we have all the podcasts that we need 0.76

02:15:12.460 right and that's the problem is there's so much noise out there there's so many just people who 0.98

02:15:17.460 think that their opinions are worth listening to that just need to be bullied the fuck out of the 1.00

02:15:23.400 space because not only are they fucking morons and they have nothing to say but they're just 1.00

02:15:28.200 going to be sour and unhappy and fucking vitriolic and you know i think that the reason you know we 1.00

02:15:35.200 talk about these things is to establish that and push those people out. Right. And then also just 0.99

02:15:39.960 you just can't rant about the same things day in, day out. It's like, you know, it's nice to

02:15:44.440 kind of switch it up. And lastly, I'll say, you know, there's a big thing for me is like the

02:15:51.020 zeitgeist will seize upon something. Right. Like the whole bear question. Right. That for whatever

02:15:57.120 reason, that was something that really excited people. And, you know, it was a whole meme and

02:16:02.260 people really enjoyed it. And there was a lot of fun back and forth. And like, even the people who

02:16:05.580 had the dumb opinions, right? Like they were still engaged and you can say, okay, that's dumb. 1.00

02:16:11.880 Obviously the answer is you, you pick the man over the bear, but you know, and I think like

02:16:16.140 our conversation has really illustrated this. There's a lot more to it, right? It's, it's,

02:16:19.720 it's about understanding how like, you know, illogical women are and how like simps will 1.00

02:16:24.340 ignore per capita in order to, you know, agree with them because they just want that female 0.95

02:16:28.320 approval and you know how it sorts things out you need to be able to take the energy of a meme

02:16:34.300 that's moving through the zeitgeist and amplify the good and like ignore the bad right where you're

02:16:39.400 refining that single and signal and so anyone who's complaining about oh you're talking about

02:16:44.420 the bear question i just don't think they get how to interact with the zeitgeist and like how to

02:16:49.800 really drive thought and that's what i love about you know your podcast you guys are always like

02:16:54.080 on the nose you're pertinent but you also have these perennial issues that you're going through

02:16:58.120 and you know it's it's hard to balance those things well we try and keep it as relevant as

02:17:03.000 possible thank you very much for saying that um and uh just i want to call a quick attention to

02:17:08.700 james nope here before uh i forget to do it he says i do unironically believe the only

02:17:15.520 that that only critical mass of migtau is going to affect any change in a female behavior um and i

02:17:23.160 think that's an interesting point there and for the record that is you know that is that's john

02:17:28.020 our john who by the way we were friends again did you hear this

02:17:33.700 yes yes i heard that getting the band back together great news uh he says uh at the end

02:17:44.600 of the day women have similar biological desires as men one of those being the continuance of the

02:17:49.500 lineage and propagation of the genes the concept of hypergamy is that they consciously uh and

02:17:55.280 unconsciously make decisions to maximize their chances of this happening to do that they do

02:18:00.700 in fact need men so if they start to see that their behavior is limiting the chances of securing

02:18:06.040 men uh they will change their behavior theoretically and i just want to i like meta's

02:18:11.240 point i do think over time the i hate using this word discourse but the discourse has changed

02:18:17.200 now the fact that a word like hypergamy is being used by such a broad range of people

02:18:23.040 I think shows the success of this movement where in my life I watched it grow from nothing I wasn't 0.87

02:18:28.640 very involved in it but I think a lot of us knew this whole men going their own way MGTOW movement 0.80

02:18:33.480 back in the day and it is as far as I know pretty mainstream now that is a success women are aware

02:18:40.600 of it these conversations are being had and I think to Meta's point creating spaces where people can

02:18:45.760 can exit that conversation is essential because you know just to give some credit to women

02:18:52.400 um you know there is i don't know how this all shakes out percentage wise but there are a subset

02:19:00.420 of women who are only sleeping around because they feel that is what is demanded of them by

02:19:05.240 the culture they grew up in a dating market defined by tinder so they believe whether

02:19:10.780 correctly or incorrectly they need to sleep around to get a boyfriend again i don't know

02:19:16.620 what percentage of women that is but there's a percentage so maybe the more spaces we create

02:19:22.020 where women don't need to be there maybe you know we can actually get them before they get 0.99

02:19:26.420 swallowed up by this fucking evil dysgenic machine you know i mean so i think that's on our side we're 0.99

02:19:34.180 the only ones talking in that context because and this is something we talk about on the show back 0.97

02:19:38.900 to your appointment and once again thank you for all the kind words you say about us one thing we're

02:19:44.020 always asking is what do you want what are your first principles what do you actually want put it

02:19:47.780 down on paper say it out loud like what i want and some people what they want is to just hurt women

02:19:52.940 they don't like women for whatever reason so they're only involved in this discussion because

02:19:57.320 they want to spread suffering so i think it's important to identify those individuals for us

02:20:02.740 i'm like what do i want well i want people in straight monogamous relationships that are healthy

02:20:07.800 and people are happy and having big families that is the goal as as you know too positive as that

02:20:15.720 may be, that is what I want. What I want is a positive rather than a negative. So if I have

02:20:21.220 that, I can build a pathway to that. And there's a lot of components to that. It's how do you

02:20:26.980 encourage a monogamous relationship in this society? And then how do you encourage the

02:20:31.580 specific gender dynamics that would facilitate that? And then that tied into that is the birth

02:20:37.420 rate. Tied into that is attitudes towards abortion and divorce. All of that, there was a

02:20:42.120 different but intertwined issues however that is once you ask what you actually want and you can

02:20:48.540 identify that i want something that i think is better for everyone and something we used to have

02:20:54.480 i think that's how you can maybe get more women involved too by saying like we actually we actually

02:21:00.880 are on the same fucking side to uh john's or james notes point like like you you want kids we actually

02:21:07.000 want kids too we guys like having kids they like having families you know we made a joke uh pretty 0.95

02:21:14.600 we make a joke all the time but there's functionally no difference between like a 0.73

02:21:19.140 male right-wing space and a feminist space you go into like the most schizo fascist chat imaginable 0.96

02:21:25.800 it's a bunch of guys trading cooking recipes trading fucking fitness tips and like showing 0.98

02:21:32.120 photos of their kids my wife has become a minor e-celeb by doing this now somehow yeah oh here 0.98

02:21:40.580 we go we got one from owen the lesky i listened to the wvs that's white boy summer apparel space

02:21:46.720 last week i was able to say that women need role models that women can model their lives on

02:21:51.780 catholics have mary and the saints as well as the path as nuns uh we've got dave martell here

02:21:57.000 hypergamy is entirely a symptom of tech of the technosphere in folk futurism the e-whore economy 0.77

02:22:03.280 we made obsolete by ai girlfriend vr sex rip whoredom that's phrased as a negative thing that 0.97

02:22:11.220 sounds like uh i'm seeing nothing but sunrises here um so let's see lake smith yo let's go boys

02:22:19.580 first time catching the ep the episode live um we've got some very very good discussions in the

02:22:25.680 chats anyway so i know we gotta get going so we've been going for a long time meta you've given us

02:22:30.060 so much of your time this evening um and i hope this was an impromptu stream we've had a very

02:22:36.080 positive feedback on this um we didn't have a whole lot planned for this episode but i think

02:22:41.860 we had he was catching lightning in the bottle what do you think yeah no i appreciate you guys

02:22:47.680 having me on you know i think it's really great when we have someone like sargon you know interacting

02:22:53.240 with the anonsphere because and i think this is something that a lot of people see is like there's

02:22:57.880 seems to be this kind of very astroturfed group of right-wing pundits out there and you can kind

02:23:04.520 of see through the you know their their you know sargon like kind of caving to the you know don't

02:23:09.880 be mean to women the whole thing is is a pretty strong indication that he doesn't have the

02:23:14.120 foundational ethos that we'd really want to see um and then anytime you know we we get to interact

02:23:19.240 with that and get to hold them to task and make them feel a little bit bad about you know how

02:23:24.160 wrong their views are i always think that's great um and this is this isn't the only way we win

02:23:30.060 right i'm not like uh yarvin uh die hard in the sense that he's like oh you just got to be you

02:23:35.580 know culture bro it's like only culture it's like no we got to go out there we got to build we got

02:23:39.400 to meet people got to do other stuff but you know we can't be uh libertarian and just kind of like

02:23:45.720 retreat out off social media into the woods we've got to beat these people up online a little bit so

02:23:51.640 i appreciate you uh giving me the chance to come on and talk a little bit about this and uh you

02:23:56.640 know finally get to get to meet judas uh you know i'm i get to kind of bump around in the the blood

02:24:02.540 satellite chat that you guys have and uh you know finally get to meet the real brains of blood

02:24:08.560 satellite that's me hey welcome yeah good to meet you yeah you'll fit in fine every time there's

02:24:14.680 episode i just had a lot of really good takes this episode just me clenching my teeth is that

02:24:19.600 news i mean are you surprised what's going on jesus he's good he's a real real good host um

02:24:26.420 and i also wanted to say just a piece of practical advice to give to the people out there i think we

02:24:34.140 had a good thing with the word hysterical like we need a we need to to tell women you know if

02:24:40.700 they say something dumb what can you say we used to say you're being hysterical you didn't need to 1.00

02:24:45.860 call them a bitch you didn't need to call them a retard you say you're being hysterical i think we 1.00

02:24:50.560 bring that back a lot of this goes away like sands through the hourglass and again just to end on 1.00

02:24:58.380 like a positive note like you know just to to betray every point i've made up until now what

02:25:04.740 we do actually want like we're not mean necessarily towards women we just have more dynamic filters

02:25:12.660 in this side and if anything i actually think we need more filters maybe we just need to negotiate

02:25:17.860 what those filters look like but i think anyone who's telling you that we need fewer filters into

02:25:23.680 the space we need should be treated as a hostile agent an agent of the demiurge and then we can

02:25:31.560 just end on that meta before i go tell them where they can find you yeah so i'm primarily on x my

02:25:38.860 at is at meta prime zero zero one i also have a website meta prime zero zero one dot com go check

02:25:45.600 that out that has links to all the other platform stuff that i'm on including sub stack um yeah i

02:25:51.340 have a podcast of my own uh it's called the metacast mostly what i do is i pull on people

02:25:56.740 from the anon space and uh you know we have some conversations uh we were uh we were lucky enough

02:26:03.740 to be graced by dimes and uh you know he was actually pretty coherent for that episode so

02:26:09.040 if you're interested in that what you've done to him look what you've done this was my friend 0.99

02:26:13.760 and then you come into contact with this motherfucker it's like yeah you're kind of 1.00

02:26:19.080 fucking not a queer that episode okay sure yeah okay um so you guys should definitely go check 0.99

02:26:27.140 that out um and then yeah the website what's great about that is i it's all my perennial content 0.98

02:26:33.360 right i i'm trying to lay out a philosophy for how do you break from the mainstream delusion

02:26:37.540 and join what i call the parallel movement talk about spirituality i have other thoughts and stuff

02:26:42.540 like that up there but you know if you have someone in your life who's going through that

02:26:47.820 process of realizing everything's bullshit and they're kind of you know because at least this

02:26:53.180 happened to me i made a lot of mistakes early on i built burned a lot of bridges i got really into

02:26:58.420 conspiratainment stuff and i think really what it's about is self-improvement growth you know

02:27:03.820 going out there being competent and so just really encouraging people to do that um you know there's

02:27:08.800 a lot of great people in our space who are really facilitating that like uh our good friend axios

02:27:14.780 health i don't know if uh times you want to is now now might be a good time oh yeah yeah i i've

02:27:20.920 mentioned them every every show i didn't want to mention because i've actually fallen off because 0.63

02:27:25.700 i hurt my fucking arm this week so i haven't done any of my exercises and i know he's looking at the 0.87

02:27:30.440 app he gave me like what the fuck so i'm kind of dodging axios right now however it's a great 0.97

02:27:37.080 service it's good it's good to have a personal trainer who can help whip you into shape um and 0.81

02:27:42.760 like i said before uh like the reason you know even if you're into fitness even if you're into

02:27:47.860 lifting it's easy to get stuck into a rut it's easy to get stuck in the same routine you're not

02:27:52.680 looking forward to it and then you're slack and then you're not getting gains so it's good to

02:27:56.580 have just another set of eyeballs on even remotely which is what he offers giving you a routine

02:28:02.080 giving you your sets to do and keeping you accountable and also putting you in touch with

02:28:06.600 other guys from our space you know other like content creators other sort of right adjacent

02:28:11.560 and guys getting into that community and holding each other accountable, which I think is that's

02:28:17.180 kind of what you miss out by not going to the gym. So this is trying to, I think, fill the gap in

02:28:21.640 that culture. And I think that works pretty well. Yeah. And that's the great thing about

02:28:28.780 our space is there's a lot of really competent, smart people who really can give you the shortcut

02:28:35.800 of not having to figure out this, you know, all this stuff yourself. Right. And yeah, so Axios

02:28:42.140 does some good stuff there. I actually working with a business partner of mine, we're going to

02:28:45.440 be rolling out a supplement brand, which I know sounds super grifty. I know, but he's been an MD

02:28:52.300 for over a decade, runs his own practice, really knows his stuff. And so we've got stuff like we've

02:28:57.640 got a T boost, we've got a xenoestrogen detoxifier, and then we're going to put out a

02:29:02.720 um a anti-inflammatory which on its face is just anti-inflammatory but really it's it's for your

02:29:08.320 friends and family who might have uh you know bought into the narrative and uh you know got

02:29:13.060 gibbity jabbed and uh you you want to give them something that's going to help them out there so

02:29:17.700 you know trying to equip our guys with some some good quality products make sure that they're

02:29:23.380 they're well taken care of i think that's a good as place to end as any because we're going at

02:29:29.040 two and a half hours now thank you so much taking the time judas thank you as well thank you for

02:29:33.980 turning another uh uh comrade and ally against me um you did that on you did it yourself dimes

02:29:43.700 you just you just uh such an easy punching bag yes as uh the great tom york said you do it to

02:29:50.900 yourself you do and that's why it really hurts yeah that's why i was gonna say that

02:29:56.740 oh cal is saying uh read it what should i what should i be reading anyway uh see you guys later

02:30:06.260 have a great night everybody

Blood Satellite - May 03, 2024

BSNL#10： Sargooner ANSWERS the Woman Question (feat. Meta Prime)

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