00:45:43.960yeah i i was gonna wait another 20 minutes before i got it i'm coming in hot i i had a whole lot of1.00
00:45:51.360garlic bread for dinner so i'm all out of sorts i'm all fucking my arms are akimbo i'm wearing0.70
00:45:57.020my green hoodie which is supposed to be my calmest hoodie um but i want to say this is it's it's weird0.84
00:46:03.400the way this is presented because it's like you have to choose between being anti-semitic and
00:46:07.820pro-white it's like well i mean yeah you probably should pick one of them to focus on but it doesn't
00:46:12.860mean that if you're pro-white you can't you shouldn't be anti-semitic but it honestly seems
00:46:17.840like in sven's case and for a bunch of those guys being anti-semitic meant that they when people
00:46:23.100would be pro-white they would be implicitly suspicious of those people like why are you
00:46:29.080being pro-white are you controlled by the jews it's like hold on a second buddy people think0.54
00:46:33.540that's crazy but you need you can get there pretty easily eventually um and that's why i say if you're0.86
00:46:38.920going to be you have to start with being pro-white and what does pro-white mean let's just i'll define
00:46:43.060it for myself being pro-white is believing three things one that white people exist two that they
00:46:50.560have a right to exist and three that they're allowed to act within that self-interest that's
00:46:56.440it that to me is being pro-white and if you can agree on those three fundamental things we can
00:47:01.400have a relationship we can have a conversation if i say those three things the first thing out of
00:47:05.760your mouth is well what is white we're done like i'm not playing that game we know the game where0.99
00:47:10.280it's well what is white well what is self-interest like shut the fuck up and then anything that1.00
00:47:15.760threatens that that's how you get to any jewish and then there's jewish groups who try to fight0.97
00:47:20.840that try to fight those basic tenets and that's how you get to your anti-zionism whatever it might0.53
00:47:26.880be there's another element there's another element of this as well like if you have a you have a
00:47:30.800positive principle versus a negative principle right and you examine your motivations like if
00:47:34.620your motivation for anti-Semitic being anti-Semitic is what? Like, yes. Okay. You hate Jews. Why
00:47:38.900though? Why are you so mad at Jews? Well, Jews did X and Jews did Y. Okay. But what does that mean?0.92
00:47:43.940It's because Jews, Jews are an opponent to your race, right? So what you're really saying is0.92
00:47:48.720attacking Jews is a way of defending yourself. So you've already, you know, you're talking back
00:47:53.760past the sale. You must at least admit that you're trying to defend yourself, but then it's like,
00:47:58.160don't you have any other enemies aside from Jews? Like I'll admit Jews are the biggest extant threat1.00
00:48:02.020to the white race but they're not the only threat not by a long shot we have we have we have huge0.99
00:48:07.380threats even within our own race so you're opening yourself up to all kinds of other attacks and
00:48:11.680again the fact that you're even saying that anti-semitism is like your principle you are
00:48:16.520admitting that you are not a jew and that whatever you are is threatened by them like if that's
00:48:22.460packaged within it so it's kind of it's ridiculous to just say i'm anti-semitic and nothing else like0.97
00:48:27.280Would you if you could if you could just look at it this way, if you're just anti-Semitic, you would you would accept destroying your own race in order to destroy the Jews.0.98
00:48:38.320Yeah, which is insanity. But it sounds like some of these guys, that's actually where they're at.0.92
00:48:42.980Yeah. And that's why they end up hating so many white people.0.96
00:48:48.020And that's why, you know, keep this in mind.
00:48:50.200I might jump around a bit here because there's some tangents I might go on, things I want to talk about that I'll just dump in it whenever it occurs to me.
00:48:56.900but one thing that came up in our community today was uh this is gonna be i can't go too0.99
00:49:04.640far down this tangent okay i'll just mention it um it's a tweet that bronze age pervert made0.57
00:49:10.300and um i don't have it in front of me right now and i can't search for it but i'll just
00:49:14.220what it was bronze age pervert was basically saying that uh being a race realist or trying
00:49:22.140to convince people of racial disparities is a losing game now liberals don't like it decent
00:49:27.940people don't like it elites don't like it the only strategy going forward is like race blindness and
00:49:34.080like you know as i'm saying this maybe people are raising their hand maybe people are saying oh wait
00:49:39.500that's wrong because what i was trying to get to without going into all the problems with that is
00:49:43.860that now more than ever it's my belief that racial stuff is on the table yeah racial is like we you
00:49:51.600got mainstream republicans even sort of the fringe republicans but they're talking about white
00:49:55.340replacement they're talking about like things that we talked about a few years ago they're talking
00:50:00.240about it now in canada especially i don't think americans understand the situation in canada right
00:50:04.940like i know in the states there's still plenty of places where you might have a distinct problem
00:50:09.420with blacks or with hispanics but there are plenty of places in the states where you have largely
00:50:15.140white communities and those people who are and of course those people are already nominally
00:50:20.040conservative but they don't have these racial issues and so they're going to be hard to convince0.95
00:50:23.800that doesn't exist in canada anymore every fucking corner of canada is now like one third indian and0.92
00:50:28.580chinese and so there's no white person in canada anywhere not even in the bush who doesn't have to0.99
00:50:34.560deal with indians on the fucking corner every day that they go out so like this is it's now is the0.97
00:50:40.580time to talk about this at the very least it's on the table and to listen to most of the people at0.99
00:50:46.600njp that was the one thing you're not supposed to do don't engage with conservatives don't engage0.98
00:50:52.460with it's all an op it's all old news fuck them we're the only game in town even if the even if0.99
00:50:59.000the mainstream is starting to dabble in our talking points we should distance ourselves even more0.99
00:51:04.340that's ridiculous and even when someone like keith woods um you know we we might have had
00:51:10.680or Chris Sims with things Keith Woods has said in the past,
00:51:12.900but his, you know, stop the ADL thing,
00:51:16.580you know, going, taking the biggest swipe
00:51:19.740at Zionist influence in my recent memory.
00:51:23.380And then what did you hear from NJP?1.00
00:52:08.740early 20s who haven't met every type of guy there is out there um they haven't met like a compulsive
00:52:14.900liar you don't know what a compulsive liar is like until you meet one but sven is a very specific
00:52:20.280type of personality where he will say he's joking he doesn't joke according to him and he said this0.98
00:52:27.480before he doesn't even like being funny he's an angry guy he's a bit that go that just says
00:52:34.420certain things more extreme than others but you know for if you're you or i to tell a joke we
00:52:39.900would say something preposterous he just says honestly fennett isn't really capable of telling
00:52:47.080a joke he's just being he can only be ridiculous with his honest hatred yeah and so the next time1.00
00:52:53.520when he says something like this like fuck irish people fuck white people he'll say oh i'm just1.00
00:52:57.020joking no you're not motherfucker i know you i know your type of guy i know you know what you1.00
00:53:02.600said here's the thing about all the njp trs guys they forget that people have listened to them for1.00
00:53:06.920more than two weeks they are such fucking hypocrites they will say contrary shit to stuff they said six0.99
00:53:12.460months ago like i watched him when i was still listening to the show during covid like they0.99
00:53:16.820changed their covid position every fucking few weeks like he was making fun of lockdowns and
00:53:21.960saying it was bad and now he hates any covid denialists like he's still seething about anyone0.67
00:53:27.160who is critical of lockdowns and they hope that i think they just assume people aren't listeners0.98
00:53:31.560or they have like brown person brain where they have no fucking time horizon yeah they don't they1.00
00:53:38.080don't think people clip this shit most people don't most people don't have the fucking docs1.00
00:53:43.020like we do this is the good stuff but it's like yeah this right here is just open vitriol against1.00
00:53:49.420white people like what's the joke tell me the joke that you hate you too well do you or don't0.99
00:53:55.040you i bet you do it's just a rant a thing you said too you you two does kind of suck but like1.00
00:54:00.580If you're supposed to be supporting white people and you're against Israel, the only content that you put out is, quote unquote, sarcastically saying is Ireland sucks and deserves it.0.99
00:54:11.020Like no other comment. Right. No other comment about how this is going to affect the Irish and how we can help.0.99
00:54:17.620And, you know, what are some other steps? No, no, no, nothing constructive.
00:54:22.260Just, hey, fuck Ireland. They deserve it.1.00
00:54:24.940This is indistinguishable from what a left winger would say.
01:10:52.460you fucked up so bad it's inconceivable how bad at business you could be to literally throw away1.00
01:10:59.240free content somebody else made for you that you could profit from like i i i can't even understand1.00
01:11:04.580the headspace you'd be in to make that decision and also remember the word that i got from former
01:11:10.120shows that were on there a few guys was that no one got paid no one got paid for being on trs the
01:11:15.980main guys got paid they got all that sub money but a lot of the shows that you might have liked
01:11:20.900especially the non-american shows no made any money however the trade-off was you're on the
01:11:25.840network so you get tens of thousands of listeners to your show and a lot of people made their bones
01:11:30.920doing that no mark against them for doing that but i bet there was no contracts in place they0.95
01:11:37.160could have just kept the content but what fucking sven will probably not want to tell you is that0.83
01:11:42.580the reason paranormy seemed to have left was because he got into a fight with them and kicked0.79
01:11:46.260them out yeah yeah and and godcast they all went to americana so a lot of uh former shows went on
01:11:53.320this thing called the americana network i'm very friendly with the americana guys uh yin points out
01:11:58.700here correctly the godcast left godcast another very popular show that as they became more national
01:12:05.500socialist atheists just couldn't couldn't stop hating on whites and christians yeah while they
01:12:10.640started while they started a political party by the way again i'm going back to the beginning here
01:12:15.640a political party national justice party parties in the name from the start had no interest in
01:12:23.040running candidates had no interest in raising money for candidates had no interest in even0.99
01:12:28.620interfacing whatsoever with the mainstream political organization these are fucking geniuses0.88
01:12:34.560you have doing this it's funny they never would have been able to because they were so insistent0.97
01:12:38.280on being as absolutely bombastic and toxic politically as they could so because the thing
01:12:43.960is is if you had just been if you had been at least nice don't even abandon your principles0.80
01:12:48.480just be fucking nice and concede once in a while and be friendly you probably could have run some
01:12:54.080local candidates in the rust belt and won some actual votes you could have got some city council1.00
01:12:58.220members i bet but you didn't even fucking try so because i thought politics was stupid because you0.99
01:13:03.680have galaxy brain crow magnon cavemen like alex madab saying that the great satan should collapse0.99
01:13:10.780by the way so you got a a political organization they could have called themselves a national
01:13:16.360justice organization didn't njo sounds just as good whatever um but then you have guys who are
01:13:23.720affiliated with it saying i hope the great satan is destroyed tomorrow and these are the ones you
01:13:28.060want to get americans on your side with right like like you're you're and they'll they'll revise that0.60
01:13:34.320whole history right now pretend that they didn't do that they don't hate america while starting a
01:13:38.860political organization in america yeah there's one of them was in here the other day trying to
01:13:43.640convince us that north korea was actually healthy wealthy and based and uh is one of the only real
01:13:49.680real nations globally standing up to the great satan of america that's a buddy i don't i don't
01:13:56.300like the american government that much i don't like them i don't like them at all i wish they
01:14:00.860would change significantly but you're wishing death on your own nation and at the same time0.99
01:14:06.980praising a foreign country that you know fuck all about which by the way i've lived in the orbit of0.98
01:14:12.780and it is not a nice place in fact nowhere in asia holds a candle civilizationally to north0.99
01:14:18.460america in terms of in terms of health in terms of sanity like it's it's just such a wild claim0.92
01:14:25.440from some fucking armchair warrior well this is where the the twp people come in because if you0.94
01:14:31.380are sort of a nazbol type you are necessarily third worldist and some people think that's a0.99
01:14:36.500dirty word to say but there are third worldists and there's a lot of them on the right who they
01:14:40.700are anti they call themselves anti-ang a lot of them might even cite uh uh tragedy in the hope
01:14:47.280by carol quigley you know being anti-british and therefore anti-anglo which usually makes you0.96
01:14:52.500anti-white yeah but their third world is in the sense oh real fascists are brown we need we need0.98
01:14:58.600a third world alliance to fight the greater american empire the gae the gay the great satan0.99
01:15:06.200We need to unite all the third world people to hate white people to achieve, I guess, the type of ethno-nationalism that would preserve white people, I guess.0.98
01:20:48.920The people who call these names effeminate, nerd, midwit, boring.1.00
01:20:55.460These are people who grew up watching television shows that openly mocked white men for being smart by falsely portraying them as socially stunted losers with no backbone.1.00
01:32:43.500better he could be if he didn't have a round in his head yeah what if he did a bunch of boring0.99
01:32:48.600machismo shit like i don't know learned how to fire a gun yeah or like got fit like learned0.99
01:32:54.520kickboxing i don't fucking know like anything other than roller skating jesus christ you know0.98
01:32:59.180you haven't seen because i i do lifting and uh i've done boxing in the past and i was younger0.91
01:33:05.560in martial arts there has been no physical activity no combat that employs what i'm imagining
01:33:13.360is like the the technique of picking up a woman and throwing her you should be you know what i
01:33:18.740mean like imagine here's my perfect workout you're in a room full of trampolines right and you got0.76
01:33:25.460just a woman mid-sized woman not too much on the back end not too much on the top and you just1.00
01:33:32.280devise a workout where you lift her up with both arms and you throw her around you launch her1.00
01:33:37.600across through and bounce her off the walls and you just need to wield her like a medicine ball0.94
01:33:41.640think of any exercise you can use the medicine ball and just imagine a woman and just throw her1.00
01:33:47.540the fuck around yeah that solves this whole you know what legitimately though because my uh my1.00
01:33:54.240eldest is getting big a she's like almost four she's half as more than half as tall as me and0.99
01:34:01.280the thing is when you pick kids up if they're goofing around you've got their whole weight
01:34:04.920and they'll do some dumb shit like they'll swing their whole body over to one side and you'll just0.98
01:34:09.220about throw your fucking back out but it's like you should like if you had like that as a workout0.99
01:34:14.720like just try to hold a person in the air while they're wriggling and you can't get a grip on0.99
01:34:20.720them and their weight is shifting that's every muscle in your body if you don't injure yourself
01:34:24.860you will injure yourself we got a comment here from i am not a number i am a free man saying0.99
01:34:30.240have you seen north american women lately you get pretty strong exactly we're in the good ass0.99
01:34:35.940idea zone right now okay by the way i'm not i'm spending too long on this shit um you're back to0.99
01:34:43.020mcnab in my experience cycling is a hobby for married white men with families weightlifting0.94
01:34:48.400on the other hand well i don't know if you noticed this but there was an entire thread in here about
01:34:51.820a certain weightlifter from our old circles and gay porn we discussed this guy uh on the show a
01:34:56.940couple days ago we're not going to go on the whole thing but it's so absurd to say weightlifting is0.85
01:35:00.860for single gay men that's that's just wild it's an insane cope and sneed sort of comment because0.60
01:35:08.360now you're seeing how this is snowballing like only straight married men cycle it's like well0.95
01:35:13.020the reason you say that is because when you tell people you like to cycle a lot the first thing
01:35:19.180you've heard your entire life is oh uh what's your partner's name and is he does he ride with you
01:35:25.260right legitimately like that would be a polite question for a liberal co-worker to ask you
01:35:30.900actually you know and and it's just like i don't look i don't think cycling is gay i don't i own
01:35:37.660a bike bikes are great but like i'm not it's the point is is not that we hate bikes the point is
01:35:43.720if you make biking your whole personality right you know i'm gonna i think if if you are a cyclist0.99
01:35:51.700it's an uphill bike to prove that it's not the gayest shit and that's just the way of the world0.99
01:35:57.920but don't go out here talking like this is something he deals with his whole life all right1.00
01:36:01.800okay jar jar abraham wants to know two minutes behind but con leaves how the fuck do you not0.98
01:36:08.780know about the irish 1916 revolution jesus fucking christ well there's one reason which is i'm not0.97
01:36:14.780autistic the second reason is i don't really read anything and the third reason is i'm not0.88
01:36:20.040fucking irish and there's another reason um which is no there isn't there's three reasons there's0.61
01:36:26.560three reasons is a good number there's three it just sounds like we're being very harsh to the0.99
01:36:32.040irish generally and i don't appreciate i love the irish also there's a little but i'm not i'm just
01:36:37.260not irish so like why would i know that there's a few too many irish revolutions if i'm being honest
01:36:41.940they do they are revolting aren't they you're supposed to have just a couple i i've got a dozen
01:36:49.080irish revolutions that people keep coming at me with yeah joe plunk it is a great name though
01:36:54.920yeah i guess here we go nice try we know you're autistic i took that autism taste that that that
01:37:02.460rod mad posted the other day and i got a 12 out of 50 i'm like the least autistic person that's0.98
01:37:07.740bullshit it's true i'm not autistic at all i think you planned for this i think you autistically0.89
01:37:12.680planned for that test no you're not i have no friends and i go outside all the time and i don't0.97
01:37:18.000read books and i i i look at the world holistically and never even notice details at all well you know
01:37:26.040who also has jobs women really poking holes in my theory here now this is just the next part again0.96
01:37:36.900nothing to do with nothing uh this these next couple ones are uh alex manab is a sex weirdo0.92
01:37:43.620uh of course he is uh here's just a comment he made uh i'm four years older than crowder and i0.50
01:37:49.920would have been too distracted by my raging bone it's talking about pregnant wives get to get in0.82
01:37:54.860with your pregnant wife and how turned on he is by his pregnant wife we got a sex guy he's one of0.99
01:37:59.840these like penis guys you hear about mcnab's not married is he he is he is no way he is he can he0.99
01:38:07.860make comments seriously not not to say that like you don't still love your wife when she's pregnant0.99
01:38:12.980But if you're having a long-term, like, relationship-ending argument with your wife, and you're going to say, oh, I wouldn't be able to argue with my wife because I have such a big boner, like, what an asinine thing to say.
01:38:25.380To me, this just sounds like somebody who doesn't, has never had an argument with their wife.
01:43:07.220ca wants to know if he drank the water almost certainly we're gonna have to go with that for0.97
01:43:21.720now he definitely drank the water um hold on i have all these like fucked up in order0.81
01:43:30.820talk for a minute talk for a minute i need to get this word out talk for a minute so anyways anybody0.96
01:43:37.100who tuned in late my wife drove over the wellhead today it was thrilling um it wasn't that bad
01:43:45.660actually it looked really bad but it ended up not being that bad and uh the the best part about it
01:43:51.560i thought we're gonna have to call a tow truck and we're gonna have to get all these people involved
01:43:55.640and we talked to our very good friend who is also our neighbor who is also a farmer who is also our
01:44:02.600landlord and he came over and uh did the fix the whole thing for us solved the problem we put a
01:44:09.820board over the wellhead with a bale of hay to keep it down keep the kids out of it um and he told us
01:44:15.620to not worry about the damage that we're gonna we're gonna figure it out later it's just the
01:44:19.160most wonderful guy and i i thank my lucky stars that i can live in a small rural white community0.99
01:44:25.860all right thank you fuck you judas you told me to talk enough of that enough of that so0.98
01:44:33.800kiwi farms i just had a bunch it wasn't selecting the one i had set up the first but i was going to0.99
01:44:38.580read a couple of these i just wanted to get your thoughts on it because a lot of these posts
01:44:41.920are given assessment of not only njp but the what was known as the alt-right broadly because
01:44:48.980i think the downfall of the njp um and really the downfall of trs we'll see if it you know my my
01:44:58.700thing was they got to go away to come back i think it's a bad look to just kind of chug along
01:45:03.120and pretend none of that happened whatever let's say they keep going i think the fall of the njp
01:45:08.120signaled like the the death of this thing called the alt-right um the traditional alt-right
01:45:15.040or like them trying to make something out of it because here's my thing is that
01:45:20.400the the desire to create a project like njp wasn't misguided for a bunch of podcast guys
01:45:31.200guys who run a network to say you know what i want to do something serious i want to do something
01:45:34.900big let's get some money together let's marshal our forces let's make a real go at it i don't
01:45:41.480want people to get the idea that i'm saying don't do that because that's what a lot of people said0.90
01:45:45.440a lot of people said you're a fool for even trying to make any sort of organization that's not what
01:45:49.440i'm saying and i'll give them another piece of credit that a lot of people after charlottesville1.00
01:45:54.960talked mad shit about charlottesville saying it was stupid to even try i don't think it's stupid0.98
01:46:00.500to try i think maybe they were what they could be accused of was being a little naive right but you1.00
01:46:07.040know that was a time when we felt like we could be a bit more naive we didn't know that the cops
01:46:12.720would so nakedly be on the side of antifa we they i was there right but they thought i they thought
01:46:20.500that okay if we go through all the steps all the processes we get the right um paperwork done we
01:46:26.360can have a peaceful protest trying to defend this statue that's going to be ripped down a statue
01:46:32.520by the way that we all saw burned recently melted down and all the conservatives are up in arms
01:46:39.240about how the the the general lee statue being melted down how egregious that is well i didn't
01:46:45.600hear you guys defending these the charlottesville protesters when they were trying to keep that very0.98
01:46:50.860same statue up so fuck any of the conservatives they want to get upset about now anyway i was0.98
01:46:56.520not a shit talk about charlottesville so you know i i don't think that the desire to do something0.99
01:47:03.660serious should be the takeaway should be that you never should have tried right would that be what0.91
01:47:10.220do you think about that absolutely absolutely and and i don't even blame the guys for getting
01:47:14.860hoodwinked there's i think at the time when it happened i would have been right with them saying
01:47:20.600like look if we we book the protest we follow all the rules we don't do anything illegal
01:47:25.580we're we're as peaceful as we can be aside from a couple triple makers and then antifa is going
01:47:31.260completely hog wild and being violent and insane like they usually are at the very least the cops
01:47:35.700will have to be neutral if not arrest antifa that would be totally you know why not expect that
01:47:40.860and the charlottesville was the turning point when we realized wow they literally are like antifa and
01:47:48.340the police are two branches of the same power literally like they have the same they're taking
01:47:54.080orders from the same organization charlottesville i think people finally realized in a very visceral
01:47:59.300way that there's no rules to follow like people also realize that they will never leave you alone
01:48:05.240you know the grill grill dad nationalism doesn't work it's why we now know that protests protests
01:48:11.960don't work and going and hiding in in the bush forever don't work and that broke a lot of people's
01:48:17.980minds that broke a lot of people left and never came back it's the same thing that happened to qanon
01:48:24.080QAnon learned that QAnon was a lot of Gen X people and a few boomers realizing that democracy isn't real, realizing that votes don't matter.
02:07:48.740so i just gotta keep saying something not about the well again
02:08:00.440read some comments if you can um not about the well
02:08:06.580my boss is uh brown and out of nowhere he decided to go back on vacation yesterday and fly to
02:08:15.500lebanon my boss is in lebanon and i thought that's a weird time to go to lebanon it's weird right
02:08:22.940yeah it is okay the answer is yes it's weird
02:08:25.740okay i'm just dunking on af in the chat because i hate yeah here we go uh the all this is from
02:08:38.220breadbasket with two s's wonder what that could refer to uh the alt-right as a movement seems to
02:08:44.500have to have suffered whatever to have suffered from far too many of the prominent individuals
02:08:49.540that were seen as leaders of it actually actually in reality let's cycle that one into our0.95
02:08:55.860conversation actually in reality uh turning out to be grifters who are more willing to make money
02:09:00.940than attempt any political moves of value to advance the cause they said they advocated for
02:09:06.080um if there were any big takeaways from the alt-right as a movement they are this and this
02:09:13.480is what i wanted some comments on if people uh want to one dig deep into anyone who puts words
02:09:19.720to your frustrations and consider their character before taking anything they say seriously i think
02:09:25.840that's a great point um all whites won't just rise up there will always be a segment of the
02:09:32.940population who have vested and moral interests in opposing white nationalism this is a big one
02:09:38.740And this is something that I think we are hashing out right now about, and to their credit, this is something that I think the TRS guys have seen. A lot of us are shocked with how many white people are so genocidal against themselves or so tolerant of their own dispossession and torture publicly.
02:10:01.560and so i don't know what to do with those people it's very difficult for me some of them are just0.97
02:10:07.060going along with the flow that's fine but there's some like diehard white people who hate white
02:10:11.780people and that's a phenomenon i don't see reflected in most other identities it seems0.87
02:10:19.180unique to whites and people say oh that's because they're brainwashed i'm like yeah but it's it's0.97
02:10:23.980deep man it's really fucking deep and it's in like the white leadership too you know so yeah0.96
02:10:29.840They're a lot of the ones who are cheering on mass migration, and I don't know how to—don't expect them to be red-pilled, I think is the idea.0.97
02:10:40.580Number four, the system will most likely not be fair to you as of this time when it comes to the court systems and law enforcement.
02:47:23.880You can be anti-individualist and understand that it's the family and the
02:47:27.620household that is the individual indivisible uh brick of society i think a lot of people would
02:47:33.340agree with that however within the household traditionally um the state didn't have hold
02:47:39.980sway over the house that was a place for the folk the folk ways religions and so at the end of the
02:47:46.240day people still want that and a lot of our guys that's all we desperately want you go talk to these
02:47:51.160young men um you know the incel problem what is the incel problem they'll say oh why don't you1.00
02:47:56.020pay a prostitute because the incel guys not true incels true incels are oftentimes fucking psychos0.99
02:48:03.500like the real dark guys but most guys who say they're incels they want a girlfriend they want0.99
02:48:08.860a relationship they want to be loved they want to they want to feel needed and appreciated that's
02:48:14.360like we can make it about sex because that feels more masculine but the truth is is men i think
02:48:19.540more than women men need to be loved and appreciated men need to like tools or machines
02:48:25.900need to be used or they will rust and fall apart you know what that's what's missing i heard this
02:48:31.260story i forget where i read it so don't fat check me on this but it was some story from some in
02:48:37.580country during world war ii might have been britain and it was during uh after an air the
02:48:43.480air raid sirens went down there was a bombing campaign on the town of the city and they in
02:48:49.780in the insane asylum it might have even been michelle foucault who said this because it was
02:48:54.020a study on mental illness and madness yeah they said that all these people who are in asylums who
02:48:58.860are totally neurotic they were catatonic they were catatonic which means you're you're sick to the
02:49:04.460point that you don't move you're alive and you're fed through a tube and you stare at the wall for
02:49:09.480weeks and don't you know you're like in a waking coma they said once they gave these people
02:49:14.880something to do and that was like driving around picking up dead bodies rest picking up the rubble
02:49:20.840they like snapped out of it like there was an urgency there was a task there was like you are
02:49:26.580need you have a duty hadn't people who hadn't spoken or moved even from their beds in weeks
02:49:31.880or months suddenly jumped out of their beds put their boots on and started putting in fires and
02:49:36.800getting in trucks to rescue people yeah and people want to say like oh what about the hikamori
02:49:42.320in japan these young people who don't want to leave their apartments what about these1.00
02:49:48.300zoomers who don't want to get a job like that's what this is they are on their way to being1.00
02:49:54.260culturally and oftentimes totally psychologically catatonic because they don't have a dude because1.00
02:50:00.100they don't have this this is kind of what this is the bedrock of what we're talking about here's
02:50:04.960here's a social experiment this is kind of a joke but i also think it would probably work1.00
02:50:08.020you take a bunch of hikikomori you capture them you kidnap them in the middle of the night you0.99
02:50:12.620put them in a in a huey in a in a blackhawk helicopter and you give them assault rifles1.00
02:50:17.940and 200 rounds of ammunition and you drop them into uganda and say if you can make it to the1.00
02:50:23.360palace and kill the president you will live i bet they'd do it i bet they'd probably be the0.98
02:50:28.120best fucking guys or at least they would fight with more spirit also why do these people why1.00
02:50:33.240of like video games so much yeah it gives them duty it gives them they're looking for mission0.99
02:50:38.460it's it's a surrogate activity because their lives are devoid of purpose yeah
02:50:42.520also there was a question here that i think might be too big for this stream i'm just going to have
02:50:48.560it back up here this is uh based in new mexico any thoughts on the civilizational effect of a
02:50:54.260culture having a linear teleology versus a cyclical one this is something we've been
02:51:00.240addressing on the show in one form or another even most recently with e michael jones's logos
02:51:04.680rising that's a very deep question i don't know if we can take a detour on that now because that
02:51:10.300that that's the separation the next stream that that true that at that's that's it to the center
02:51:18.860of the christian versus pagan debate too about the pagan ritual and and we covered um eliad's
02:51:26.980book uh the myth of the eternal return a few episodes ago about you know the the cyclical
02:51:32.500cleansing rituals that are still with us in a sense like the we have rituals to begin the new
02:51:37.920year that has this cleansing effect almost this orgiastic you know explosion of new beginnings
02:51:44.660that we still have culturally we still may we actually have dragged a lot of our old pagan
02:51:50.100european folkways into a christian framework that's what's interesting about um especially
02:51:58.760christianity in america so again that's a i don't even accept i don't say that sounds hostile like
02:52:06.080i'm not i'm not certain it's not obvious to me that we have lost all of our cyclical rebirth
02:52:11.820rituals um however we here's interesting again this is why i can't get too deep into it because
02:52:17.900within christianity we have a linear time and we have certain events that are just happened once
02:52:24.960and they're not cyclical as opposed to other technologies where death and rebirth of the
02:52:29.480gods happens like the death and resurrection of christ was a one-time thing at this specific date
02:52:34.300it won't happen again we have this conceptualization of linear time in christianity
02:52:39.080which means that there's a beginning middle and final end now of course the vikings had this as
02:52:45.040well with a ragnarok so it's not like there is no such thing as linear time and pagan cultures
02:52:49.740however that's the framework we live in right now however what's interesting is the more you get
02:52:55.420into like quantum mechanics and stuff like that the more you start hearing hearing recurring
02:53:02.080themes of cycles and even within the life and death of the universe because there is this uh
02:53:07.340you know within the big bang theory there's this idea that the universe has beginning middle and
02:53:10.720but now we're exploring ideas where maybe the universe kind of bounces back and it's this
02:53:15.220perpetual growing and shrinking and growing and shrinking now again won't get too deep into that
02:53:20.580however it's i'm trying to figure out which way i tilt like do am i more on the side of linear
02:53:28.100time or cyclical time i don't know how does that affect the civilization i think linear time
02:53:35.400probably affect i think linear time affects a civilization more because there's higher stakes
02:53:41.520there's a conceptualization we have like there could be an end point that we want to avoid
02:53:46.040like maybe if we fall we won't automatically rise and that's what i guess maybe he's referring to
02:53:50.700earlier when we're talking about the histroidal cycle about you know hard times create strong
02:53:54.820men and then it repeats again and again and again i think the idea of a finality to that cycle
02:54:01.180makes the present stakes more urgent because i don't want to do is follow this is why i don't
02:54:07.260like the kali yuga stuff where it's like oh it's like it's bad now but it's destined to get better
02:54:11.980maybe it's not destined to get better maybe it's not destined to just repeat and we'll we're bound
02:54:17.080to hit a good phase eventually maybe we're not maybe it gets worse forever and it just ends
02:54:21.700see i think building a civilization around that might be better i thought because you're talking
02:54:27.220with uh cyclical versus linear time remember we talked about that recently i thought teleology
02:54:31.420was like the the way in which people view or study their own knowledge or their own history or their
02:54:37.380own their own understanding like the understanding of understanding isn't that kind of the idea of
02:54:41.220teleology so if you had if you had cyclical teleology you'd be a culture that constantly0.90
02:54:46.660is looking inward at itself at its own thinking at its own understanding and almost like masturbating
02:54:51.660over itself and then a linear teleology would almost be faustian one that goes forward and says
02:54:57.880what else can we become what else is there what does someone else do what is in the future what
02:55:03.240is over the mountain that would be more i'm just fucking spitballing but to me that would be a
02:55:07.340linear teleology because we were talking about about george lincoln rockwell and njp which is0.74
02:55:12.500if that is what it is then we're talking about a cyclical teleology say we are here today but
02:55:17.720The only way we can move forward is by moving backwards in a circle and rehashing infinitely everything that's already happened and studying it and writing books and writing Twitter posts about sub stacks, about reviews, about books, about an interview that I saw versus let's make something.
02:55:34.300And also recall, people might have witnessed this in popular culture when they see political
02:55:42.080pundits talk about the pendulum swing, like things swung too far left, so it's bound to