Blood Satellite - January 12, 2024


Marrying a Veiled Threat [“Ye was on some frikken myelin”]


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4 hours and 12 minutes

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47,280

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448

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Transcript

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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be
00:00:07.720 blood satellite right you sound great you sound beautiful okay i'm not lying good um so we last
00:00:25.360 stream we did was a rousing success a lot of people liked it um but we didn't get to cover
00:00:31.440 a lot of stuff they wanted to cover not related to the njp but just related to life in general
00:00:36.660 stories from new year's eve stories from christmas um there's a couple stories i really
00:00:42.400 want to tell you excellent let's have it so i think my favorite story let me see who was it
00:00:49.860 who did this. Do you remember this story about the, um, the mug gift exchange?
00:00:56.060 Yeah, I think it was Soggy did one. I think a couple of guys did one, but I think it was Soggy
00:01:00.660 was the one who got our, our best seller. Okay. So I just wanted a clarification on who it was.
00:01:07.020 I'm pretty sure it was Soggy Socks, uh, MVP from our chat. So a little bit of background here,
00:01:12.920 uh, for those who don't know, Blood Satellite has a store called Good Suffer and you can find it at
00:01:18.680 good suffer.com and there you can find a whole selection of shirts uh not only from us but also
00:01:24.740 shows that we've partnered with like the jay burden show and uh sunflower society and the
00:01:30.340 z-man and a few others censored and on is in there as well and uh there's a lot of merch that isn't
00:01:36.800 even branded the blood salad it was just stuff that we designed um and uh our one of our best
00:01:43.240 sellers we have two best sellers and these are the two items that i probably put the least amount
00:01:49.400 of work into i'm very very proud of the blood satellite shirt i love that shirt that is not
00:01:56.420 nearly as popular as our shirt that just reads every boomer is the antichrist
00:02:02.440 which isn't even a sentiment i believe in like you're not going to catch me saying that i just 0.64
00:02:09.800 put it on a fucking shirt of course apparently everyone loves that shirt and they're sending 0.89
00:02:14.900 me photos of them wearing it in public um i didn't know i didn't know that one that's good 0.99
00:02:21.380 i didn't know i'm like i didn't think that far ahead you know because it's so easy to design
00:02:27.240 and ship a shirt i just figured that oh they'll put it on a wall they'll put it you know no 0.94
00:02:31.240 they're wearing this shit to church but the uh the other bestseller is a mug in two sizes 0.99
00:02:41.800 that's a good quality ceramic mug that reads don't even talk to me until i've had my anal 1.00
00:02:48.560 and even now that's what it's funny i'd say hey let's just do that right 0.64
00:03:00.800 yeah and we've sold so many of these mugs the thing is and that was actually a year or two ago 0.96
00:03:08.000 was just a stupid fucking joke we had in the telegram chat and somebody as we're making the 0.98
00:03:14.200 joke within the first five minutes like that would be great on a mug and then the next day i think you 1.00
00:03:18.600 just threw it up on a mug and it was it that was done and it's like the most hilarious and popular
00:03:23.680 thing on the website and again people are sending me photos of these mugs at their desk they bring
00:03:29.320 it to work and and the story from soggy socks was and i love you know the legendary status
00:03:38.020 until the end of time for this one the story that i was told was that his family right around the
00:03:44.740 holiday season yuletide his family has a gift exchange and he decides to buy a mug not even
00:03:53.320 for himself but to gift it to one of his family members and of course he's talking to us saying
00:04:01.020 this is real russian roulette right now because he could give this to his mom he doesn't know 0.98
00:04:05.660 it's just a fucking you don't know who's getting what right i and thinking back i don't know how 0.97
00:04:12.240 this gift exchange works i guess it's randomized i don't know i didn't question it um but apparently 0.99
00:04:17.560 he had said that it went to i guess his brother and his wife they received it and he had said
00:04:25.380 his brother loved it or at least tolerated it um his wife in true wife fashion was not was non-plussed
00:04:36.460 by it woman alert um so just put yourself in that position for the shape rotators out there
00:04:45.040 close your eyes and just picture any festive tableau you can imagine sweaters by the fire
00:04:52.440 uh vince vaughn somewhere in the mix you know i'm thinking alicia silverstone's in there too
00:04:59.280 and then just the the face the paul that goes over the room it's unwrapped in front of everybody
00:05:04.560 going oh thanks and then because what's the next part of that story it's like it's from a podcast
00:05:14.640 i listen to oh no i no you don't get it's podcast merch i would i'd say i just got it at the flea
00:05:23.040 market or something i wouldn't want to admit and then and then you have to explain to her it's like
00:05:27.300 radio it's like a radio show but it's online now the end of the story is perfect because
00:05:35.580 as everyone's leaving as he hears them go to their car later that evening he hears the mug
00:05:44.100 being smashed on the ground
00:05:46.080 outside of his house
00:05:47.260 the story
00:05:50.260 is that it fell
00:05:52.280 it slipped on a 1.00
00:05:54.200 fucking banana peel 1.00
00:05:55.060 but the story I believe is that 1.00
00:05:57.880 the wife
00:05:58.580 again I can't even hate her, no hatred coming from me
00:06:02.320 because you and me are laughing
00:06:04.460 there's a lot of people saying 1.00
00:06:05.740 fuck her 1.00
00:06:07.300 fuck her right in her fucking eye sockets 1.00
00:06:10.360 you're not going to hear that from me 1.00
00:06:11.940 finish her
00:06:13.120 because my wife would do the same.
00:06:15.120 But imagine you or me. 0.97
00:06:16.880 Your wife is basically a schizophrenic man in a lot of ways.
00:06:21.240 But I can imagine her opening this and saying, 0.97
00:06:24.880 we're not putting this in our kitchen.
00:06:27.760 We're not bringing this home to the kids.
00:06:30.540 I can imagine your wife smashing this on my car as we were leaving,
00:06:34.640 if I can tell you.
00:06:35.600 so you know he did what uh any you know righteous man would do was he immediately went and bought
00:06:44.540 two more nice that's my boy and he's just going to distribute them um and i salute to one of the
00:06:53.980 real ones the last of the real ones nice uh that was a great story and so if anyone else has any
00:07:00.220 similar stories with their products from good supper uh let me know send photos we put them up
00:07:06.700 we'll tell it on the show uh we'll have a great time with it now uh another thing just to bring
00:07:13.060 it right back down um i i don't know where i'm going to go with this but i think it'll kind of
00:07:18.540 hit some marks later on the episode so myself and the wife and our son nickels uh we went to
00:07:28.760 toronto i know you've been to toronto a lot recently but we stayed the night we took a nice
00:07:33.460 toronto trip uh end of last year end of 2023 it was sort of right up until like the end of the
00:07:39.300 year we came back home new year's eve but i i know i say this a lot but my experience there
00:07:49.320 and we've gone up you know a few times but we spent a lot of time there really soaked it in
00:07:53.180 it really is over yeah like i couldn't shake the feeling like that was a trip where i don't know
00:08:01.780 because we we like i don't dislike toronto i know you really hate toronto a lot people hate cities
00:08:05.960 a lot of people are very anti-urban here and i understand why i still you know hold the candle
00:08:11.660 for cities i kind of like it i kind of like being in the city um i like you know you live in a city
00:08:17.340 for long enough you get to know it you get to know sort of the back alleys and ways to go around you
00:08:22.460 know secret spots and shit like that i there's parts of that i really dig and i there's a 0.87
00:08:28.100 familiarity there for me because we lived there for so long but damn like when we get out because 0.95
00:08:33.700 you know when you when you're single you can go out at certain times to miss the crowds and when 0.82
00:08:37.960 you have kids you're heading out at peak times for almost everything you know you're always around
00:08:43.780 families you're always around a crowd so when i was single we could avoid crowds we could be smart 0.97
00:08:48.180 about it but now we can't we can't be smart we can only be retarded all the time so i was really 0.98
00:08:53.460 immersed in toronto crowds and it is all indians yeah that's what i've been saying i feel like i 0.99
00:09:01.760 looked away for five seconds and turned back and it's all brown people and it's like it's staggering 0.99
00:09:07.840 to me because again we lived in toronto for so long and it like it didn't feel that bad even a 1.00
00:09:13.740 few years ago it's funny because like i said that last year because i made the mistake of going
00:09:19.140 there for new year's eve and i remember arguing with guys after the fact telling my anecdotes 0.52
00:09:25.440 about dealing with um indians there on new year's eve and committing hate crimes and they're like 0.98
00:09:30.360 well okay obviously we don't like indians but it's not that bad i'm like no if you haven't been 1.00
00:09:34.760 lately you know i hadn't been in 10 years so it was a big shock for me but i mean i i am not 1.00
00:09:39.680 exaggerating when i say i was walking up and down church street i was walking up and down young i
00:09:46.000 was walking west on where were we west on college to spadina like we were all over the downtown
00:09:51.500 because we're going to like our old dorm and stuff and just kind of looking around and touring
00:09:54.360 because i haven't been there in a while and we would walk for 15 20 minutes at a stretch and not
00:09:59.100 see a single white face and of all of those faces more than 80 of them were indian there were some
00:10:04.540 places that were more chinese some places that were more arab but it was mostly indian especially
00:10:10.440 on young street like at um uh young and dundas square is like a throng of just just indians 0.95
00:10:18.840 it was it's insanity like and again if you don't don't take my word for it go and the thing is 0.76
00:10:25.060 you know you're saying that i hated toronto i i i mean i do hate toronto i kind of hate
00:10:29.880 a lot of cities. The reason I hated Toronto before is because I felt cut out of it because I was a
00:10:35.400 college student and I was poor. We were living in like a slum and we'd go downtown to like get a
00:10:39.900 piece of the action. And there's all this cool, fun stuff going on, but I'm not allowed to be
00:10:43.540 part of it. And I kind of wanted to come back with some money and be like, all right, now I can
00:10:48.040 actually go to these cool places. There are no cool places left unless you want to go to the TSO
00:10:51.620 or something like there, there isn't anything. Everything is just like Indian food places and
00:10:56.960 it's boarded up and banks they've taken all of the old like cool industrial districts that had
00:11:02.840 cool bars and clubs and like weird backroom like uh head shops and stuff and it's all either
00:11:09.180 high-end condos for indian workers or slums for indian workers or banks like it is it's the it
00:11:16.640 places like it's like pod city now it's really really sad to see it it's funny there's a couple
00:11:21.340 things and we're just jumping right into the bigotry here um and i became very profoundly
00:11:27.560 aware of this uh recently when there's a lot of there's a lot of people who listen to our show
00:11:32.280 big names that i respect but once you hear that so and so i'm not going to say the name but so
00:11:37.240 and so listens and you start thinking like oh man i spent the first 20 minutes of that complaining
00:11:41.040 about indians i'm gonna and i'm gonna say a couple things because it's worked so far one 0.97
00:11:48.920 even with a predominantly black population blacks are a real mixed bag because if you're in a black
00:11:57.440 area you'll still occasionally find like a really interestingly interesting looking guy like if 1.00
00:12:04.480 you're in detroit you'll see a lot of black guys dress like shit but then boom there's a neon green 0.99
00:12:09.400 pimp suit or there's like a guy decked out in sequins like black people have that these these 1.00
00:12:15.740 like fashion because every indian dresses like a broke boomer like i keep seeing like crowds where 1.00
00:12:22.100 it's like three guys and a woman and they all dress like shit they're all frumpy like there's 1.00
00:12:27.020 no flair like there's nothing and you know something i've read something that you know 0.99
00:12:31.940 there's a lot of like white women getting with indian guys or not a lot but like more than you 0.96
00:12:37.020 think i'm like i don't get it i don't because at least with black guys there's like a propaganda 0.99
00:12:41.960 machine behind pushing 0.96
00:12:44.120 black guys and pretending that 0.98
00:12:45.940 they are not leading the pack on being both 1.00
00:12:48.140 obese and gay 0.99
00:12:49.200 the reality of the black community is that they 0.99
00:12:51.720 are the most per capita 1.00
00:12:53.860 obese and also the most trans 0.63
00:12:55.540 but if you look at music videos 1.00
00:12:57.860 you think oh my god they're like the paragons
00:12:59.640 so masculine they're tough guys right 1.00
00:13:01.680 but you don't have that with Indian guys
00:13:03.860 they're all just at best 0.98
00:13:05.740 dorks 0.99
00:13:06.860 just like straight up racism they have like the same 0.99
00:13:09.860 face the same type of beard 1.00
00:13:11.900 in the same haircut at least koreans have an excuse they get plastic surgery to look like that 0.99
00:13:16.780 to look like the same guy they're not getting plastic surgery to have like the same 0.97
00:13:20.980 fucked up mustache you know but like i'm walking around like this is it and here's the second thing 0.93
00:13:26.780 i really have to ask myself everyone says you know all these indian restaurants start popping up and 0.96
00:13:32.540 i agree do indian people ever get tired of indian food because at least with whites like we we dabble
00:13:40.980 in foods and maybe that's our fault it's like i want some sushi i want some tacos like i swear 0.53
00:13:45.040 to god indians only eat indian food and that sucks that's every enclave though because like 0.92
00:13:50.860 all the uh afghani refugees quote-unquote refugees and the chinese like even the difference between 0.99
00:13:56.760 the hong kong chinese and the mainland chinese they have their enclaves in toronto where not
00:14:01.000 only do they only eat at chinese restaurants the mainlanders only eat at mainland chinese
00:14:05.940 restaurants and the hong kongers only eat at like yumta and dim sum restaurants like hong kong 0.97
00:14:10.220 restaurants so like and then koreans only eat at the korean restaurants like they all do this it's 0.95
00:14:15.060 just an enclave thing oh and i was gonna say earlier the thing about like you know i when i 1.00
00:14:18.960 was in college there were a lot of koreans around and that's when i learned to just hate koreans 0.99
00:14:22.320 but it's like with the koreans like you're saying they kind of have their own weird idiosyncratic 1.00
00:14:26.600 shit so you can hate them for who they are but at least you know who they are like there isn't a 0.98
00:14:31.860 separate identity and there's kind of a line in the sand like you know not to go past dufferin 1.00
00:14:35.420 if you don't want to deal with that but like now with the indians they're they don't have 0.98
00:14:40.020 like a it's not like they have an enclave and they have their own subculture it literally is 1.00
00:14:45.820 like somebody had a 10 gallon bucket of them and they poured it onto like a model of the city and
00:14:51.220 it just washed through the streets because they are there is no indian borough aside from brampton
00:14:55.840 which is essentially now a city an indian city but the entire city of toronto is just washed 0.99
00:15:01.300 evenly with indians and like you said they all look the same they all sound the same which is 0.99
00:15:05.580 like they sound like cut rate white guys um there's nothing about them the reason i bring this 0.94
00:15:11.840 up is because once you have to deal with it in every single area you go to you start to notice
00:15:16.520 certain things and i noticed this kind of when i would work because i've worked with a lot of
00:15:20.960 indians before but one thing that really comes into sharp relief is that they never apologize 1.00
00:15:26.920 they never admit that they did anything wrong it's something that if you if a chinese person 0.98
00:15:32.960 as much as no matter what you might feel about like chinese people if they fuck up sometimes 1.00
00:15:37.380 oftentimes they'll at least lie to apologize they'll at least admit fault indians they do this 0.99
00:15:43.420 thing where like if they if i'm at a restaurant and i order something they fuck up the order 1.00
00:15:48.600 they just stare at me with this deer in the headlights look and they actually don't know
00:15:52.980 what to do but they never they never admit they did anything wrong sometimes they'll hesitate to
00:15:58.080 even fix it like they're programming they're running on like a microsoft dos operating system
00:16:03.900 we're on the new operating system they're on some like 56k modem where they don't know what the next 0.58
00:16:10.200 step is like it fucked up well i guess i just stand here then if you've ever dealt with them 0.98
00:16:15.640 in a professional capacity it's like the typical relationship you'll have with an indian employee 0.97
00:16:21.120 especially if you're in tech is you'll tell them to do something and ask them if they understand 1.00
00:16:25.940 they'll say yes they won't understand obviously they'll fuck it up in every conceivable way
00:16:32.240 they'll fuck up in ways you hadn't even imagined yet and when you point it out they'll be shocked
00:16:37.480 that you are calling them out for it like it's it's a type of relationship i don't know what 0.99
00:16:43.460 this is this doesn't even seem human to me this is like talking to a fucked up ai i'm dealing with 0.95
00:16:47.680 this for the first time now because i'm in project management and some of the people on teams below 0.97
00:16:50.780 me that i manage are uh are indian one guy in particular that i have to deal with almost every
00:16:56.620 day and um like in hong kong we had a rule internally that we just didn't hire indians
00:17:01.800 because i knew all of this but now i don't have a choice and then this guy does exactly what you
00:17:05.660 just described like he'll call me over because he's confused about something or he needs to get
00:17:08.820 the sheets or whatever and i explain it to him i'll like literally grab the back of a notepad
00:17:14.120 and sketch some stuff out and do some quick calculations and give them all the data and
00:17:17.900 he's like oh so this is like this i'm like yeah you understand he's like yeah yeah makes sense
00:17:21.560 and he comes back you know the following day or at the end of the day and he's like yeah oh yeah 0.79
00:17:26.780 i finished that if you want to review it and i check it i'm like this isn't even fucking close 0.61
00:17:30.440 this is like not not a single thing that i told you was implemented and a whole bunch of other 0.54
00:17:35.260 stuff we didn't talk about was how did this happen like and again where do you begin that's when you
00:17:40.920 talk to me it's like where do i even begin with you the frustrating thing the thing the hurdle 0.93
00:17:44.560 for a lot of canadians even conservative canadians will be like with the jews you have to be aware of 1.00
00:17:49.780 the meta game and the differences between us and them the big problem for indians like with jews 0.99
00:17:54.860 for me was getting over the fact that they are really polite if you know them personally like 1.00
00:17:59.940 their co-workers or neighbors they're very very sweet people but that doesn't change the fact that 1.00
00:18:04.300 in the case of jews they're actually evil parasites that are trying to destroy your 1.00
00:18:07.920 civilization whether they know it or not they're programmed to and then with the indians it's that 1.00
00:18:12.440 that politeness is just a defense mechanism to shield you to shield them from their own 0.98
00:18:18.180 incompetence right because they know that whites are not likely to get angry at somebody who's 0.98
00:18:23.680 really polite and deferent but it's like i just i want to yell at you and strangle you though 0.93
00:18:29.600 because i could have just done this myself in the time it took me to explain it to you
00:18:33.180 so yeah and when people talk about the competency crisis we're talking about this with a good friend
00:18:39.500 both of ours named John Talley in the chat and he was making a sensible enough point. We're talking
00:18:44.780 about the looming crisis of airlines. The head of the National Transportation Safety Board is
00:18:53.280 warning just how close to disaster Alaska Airlines flight 1282 came to. On Friday the Boeing 737 Max
00:19:01.280 9 experienced a blowout of an unused exit door at around 16,000 feet elevation about 10 minutes
00:19:08.140 after takeoff from the Portland
00:19:10.020 International Airport in Oregon,
00:19:11.640 on route to Ontario, California.
00:19:13.180 The flight was able to turn around
00:19:15.080 and land back at Portland with
00:19:16.980 no serious injuries.
00:19:18.140 This whole just a few weeks ago we
00:19:19.900 discussed how near misses with
00:19:21.280 commercial airlines are happening
00:19:22.600 at an increased rate,
00:19:23.600 largely because there aren't enough
00:19:25.280 qualified air traffic controllers available,
00:19:26.900 and so those who are already hired
00:19:29.140 are forced to work long hours to
00:19:31.140 the point of burnout,
00:19:32.640 sometimes taking drugs to stay awake.
00:19:34.680 Whistleblowers were also saying that
00:19:36.500 many new hires are proving to 0.66
00:19:38.120 be inept and unable to complete the intensive training for certification to become an air
00:19:43.800 traffic controller so what's happening basically the tweet was saying that boomers represent the 0.62
00:19:50.760 thin membrane that's holding the entire airline industry together due to their knowledge of how
00:19:56.200 the systems work and once they retire all you're left with is diversity hires not only the diversity
00:20:03.080 hires but the fact that these airlines have also farmed out so much of their software development 0.91
00:20:07.080 to you know indian third party developers that so once the boomers their competency leaves there's 0.98
00:20:13.320 nothing keeping the planes in the sky and john was you know fairly pointing out it's like well 0.96
00:20:17.760 we have so many redundancies in air travel we have so many idiot proof systems that you know
00:20:24.540 it's not like it's just going to fall apart without them there and like there is truth to that
00:20:28.580 but i'm like well you have to realize like when we talk about competency crisis it's not just pilots 0.98
00:20:33.980 It's not just we hire stupid pilots now because we have autopilot. 0.96
00:20:37.460 The problem is, you know, and he agreed with this, you know, the maintenance crew, you're hiring lazier maintenance crews, you're hiring lazier software developers. 0.99
00:20:44.580 So maybe the autopilot stops working now.
00:20:46.960 You know, the one that the one that just fell out, not didn't fall out of the sky, but they had the problem with the door fell off.
00:20:51.260 That had nothing to do with the pilot or the maintenance crew.
00:20:53.180 It had to do with the manufacturers, like the way that the plane was built.
00:20:56.440 It had like loose screws internally in the frame.
00:20:59.020 So like, there you go.
00:20:59.940 I mean, you know that they, like Boeing is one of these, you know, DIE companies that's got, you know, what is it? 1.00
00:21:05.620 They have to have 20% blacks or something. 1.00
00:21:08.120 So, yeah.
00:21:09.020 Yeah. 0.99
00:21:09.400 And now it's the competency crisis is airplanes fall out of the fucking sky. 1.00
00:21:14.060 And, you know, the example I gave, like, look what happened when you gave Africans and put them in charge of bridges and roads. 1.00
00:21:20.500 You would think it's simple to maintain a bridge. 0.84
00:21:23.380 Another thing, and I talked to a lot of people who seem to kind of misunderstand this, people that maybe don't.
00:21:29.260 kind of attract the fire of people here people who don't work in management just don't understand
00:21:33.240 how hard management is but like when you you talk about redundancy and like oh well you know
00:21:38.120 the incompetence doesn't rise to the top because we have all this redundancy and we have a very
00:21:42.820 robust system of of management and checking and quality control well like that isn't a that isn't
00:21:48.300 the leviathan you know that's not an ai that does that it's people and what we're saying is like for
00:21:53.060 example where i work or even in my company before we have like a complex system of checks and
00:21:57.860 balances and record keeping and like stickers and labels that have numbers written on them and qr
00:22:02.480 codes that are scanned and move from department to department like it doesn't take much for somebody
00:22:07.940 one day to make the decision that that that's just too hard and i'm not going to take the scanner
00:22:13.080 and make the the code sticker and i'm peel it off and stick it on i'm just going to get a sharpie
00:22:18.040 and i'm going to write it with the sharpie because it's faster that one decision was going to cause
00:22:23.580 a progressive cascading series of errors throughout your production line which is going to cost an
00:22:29.860 immense amount of money and the company starts losing money what's going to happen well if you
00:22:33.720 have a middle management people who are incompetent they're going to say we need to cut cost how do we
00:22:38.540 cut cost well there's some of these systems these redundancies and the methods of organization and
00:22:42.740 communication that i don't really understand their utility so i guess we could get rid of those and
00:22:46.840 that'll save us time which is good because time is money and then planes fall out of the sky so
00:22:52.080 like it's the fact that the fact is i get in short the competency crisis itself will attack
00:22:58.040 the redundancy itself like we have redundancy now but the redundancy relies on people being
00:23:03.720 competent to maintain the redundancy so the redundancy is like guys rolling their eyes and
00:23:08.460 say oh that's redundant why are we even doing that right right well i mean but we aren't like
00:23:13.120 i do all this redundant stuff every day and i pat myself on the back because i am absolutely
00:23:17.780 confident that this cannot screw up and i know when i go home at night i can sleep our view of
00:23:24.000 redundancy is because we're white men we're plagued by the guilt of something going wrong
00:23:29.420 so like i i like the redundancies because that takes the weight off my brain and allows me to
00:23:35.200 sleep at night but then they you know i remember reading a story and i believe this to be true
00:23:40.300 at least during the 60s when you could do something like this but i think it was boeing
00:23:45.540 they say whenever they were designing a new aircraft uh when they were doing the test flight
00:23:50.760 for it they made the people who designed the plane do the first test flight too yeah but that's a very
00:23:56.340 white guy idea that's a very like oh do you stand by it do you put your word on this would you put 0.97
00:24:01.300 that would you bet your life on it like africans are doing that they're frivolous with each other's 1.00
00:24:05.640 lives but they don't have the pride to like put your life on the line for something that you made 1.00
00:24:11.840 that's distinct to these sorts of civilizations you know you know what i got one i got an antidote
00:24:16.600 from today because this happened like at three o'clock today i uh i was working on a project
00:24:20.460 and i shipped something out and then the the client is like oh we want the mix code for that
00:24:24.660 like the material composition code for this for this product i'm like oh i don't have it let me
00:24:29.040 go ask the floor i go to the foreman and he's like oh that guy has it i go to that guy it's a brown 0.88
00:24:32.940 guy he has a little a9 uh notebook in his pocket um covered in shit because he's in a dirty working 0.84
00:24:40.460 area and i'm like can i get that code from you he's like don't worry about it i got it like i 0.89
00:24:44.720 know you have it can i get it he's like you know don't worry about it it's written in my notebook
00:24:47.740 i'm like yeah but i need you to tell me so that i can write it down and he's like rolling his eyes 0.80
00:24:52.220 like i'm wasting his time and i am interrupting him right so i'm pissing him off he has to give
00:24:56.800 me the code i put it on a post-it note i take it upstairs i enter it in the computer like if i was 0.96
00:25:00.720 not a white guy i would just say oh fuck it i'm not going to bother with this he has it it's fine 0.84
00:25:05.000 but then where's the only place that code exists is in an a9 notebook in the pocket of a guy with 0.97
00:25:10.640 a room temperature iq and that's the only place it is and if that code is lost the whole thing
00:25:15.640 has to start over from the beginning so like that guy is a company like crisis yeah that guy is is
00:25:22.540 the avatar the archetype of the competency crisis because a he has no redundancies for having that
00:25:28.140 code and b he didn't seem to understand what you wanted like oh you wrote the code down why did
00:25:34.360 write the code down because you might need to recite that code to another person at some point
00:25:39.220 right and here's that person saying can i get that code he's like i have it yeah i know i know you
00:25:45.040 have i know his way of thinking about it is like he's the only he's one of the only people in that
00:25:49.900 department and he's always there so if anything ever comes through that department that needs the
00:25:53.660 code he has it so why else does anybody need it it's like we need it in case you get hit by a 1.00
00:25:58.460 fucking car you idiot we need it in case you call in sick we need it in case your notebook falls in 0.99
00:26:03.940 the toilet like there's a lot of reasons for this it's called redundancy because these guys make 1.00
00:26:09.720 their entire job redundancies where it's like well if i write this down in a second place
00:26:13.480 then they won't need me anymore i wrote it on two different pages of the same notebook yeah 0.99
00:26:18.340 it's like you can fire this guy you thought he was the keeper of the fucking chalice 0.91
00:26:22.340 no i got like i'm just i immediately got frustrated hearing that story i don't know what he looks 0.96
00:26:29.520 like i don't know where you work but i'm clenching my fists right now i think he's like afghan or uh
00:26:35.500 or something yeah by the way so on my toronto trip uh tangentially related i stepped in human 0.98
00:26:40.840 shit damn son where'd you find oh my god no that's a new one you know and it's you know 0.99
00:26:49.720 toronto prior to that i'd is the last time i'd seen a man's penis was in toronto it was a homeless 1.00
00:26:56.180 man who was uh pissing into the street onto my shoes uh this would have been years and years 0.92
00:27:02.920 and years ago but i was walking to work because we had lived downtown i could walk to the
00:27:06.780 the financial district where my office was and there's a homeless guy sleeping in the doorway 0.60
00:27:12.480 of just some store and he just had his dick out his eyes were closed and he's pissing a nice arc 0.99
00:27:17.720 of urine right in front of me onto my shoes and look damn and i could see a penis like ah you know 1.00
00:27:23.140 you'll want to see a dick first thing in the morning i bet you could get away with assaulting 1.00
00:27:28.220 a person if they did that you know what i mean like somebody actually pissed on you 1.00
00:27:31.280 if he's lying on the ground you just give him a good kick in the side of the head not kill him 0.98
00:27:35.000 but like bruise him badly or like oh and dump a garbage can on him or something you're gonna 0.96
00:27:40.040 get arrested for it but like you know that's so frustrating do they still have flashers i remember
00:27:45.860 there was you just hear about this back then a guy his thing was going out in a coat flashing 0.99
00:27:50.360 people and my thought was like wouldn't you just kick that guy in the dick like it seemed like an 0.99
00:27:55.820 easy thing to solve right maybe they're only doing it to women but even women i'm like like 1.00
00:28:01.580 he's presenting the nuclear button right there like you just kick him right in the dick and 0.99
00:28:05.980 you know i think you could get i don't think the police are gonna try you for that right 1.00
00:28:11.140 you can get away with it yeah yeah so i stepped in human shit um and i know it was human shit 0.99
00:28:16.660 because i was going up a let me just paint you this picture and this is a very dad situation so 0.99
00:28:23.700 all the dads listening put yourself in my frustration we're driving to the aquarium
00:28:29.580 because we're showing nickels the aquarium in toronto which is a nice aquarium it's a great 0.96
00:28:34.800 place to go great place to take kids um stuffed to the brim with brown kids who don't know how 0.96
00:28:40.440 a bee and a crab whatever um and we got the stroller and we park in a weird underground 0.99
00:28:47.160 parking lot there's no elevator so i'm helping like carry the fucking stroller up this narrow 0.99
00:28:56.360 parking lot corridor and every single one of these in the entire city smells like urine 0.95
00:29:01.480 every none of them are monitored none of them are clean and i get to one landing and i'm doing a
00:29:06.280 a pretty good job carrying the stroller and i just see what looks like a little homeless camp
00:29:10.340 you know a jacket some socks a plate or something and i'm trying to be nice so i you know kind of 0.99
00:29:16.780 kick it aside for my wife boom i'm stepping in human shit it's kind of over damn it and here's 0.99
00:29:23.540 the thing a lot of people were coming at me saying you know you know what race did that 0.99
00:29:27.260 you know it was probably indian i'm like i'll tell you this right now i'm not so sure i think
00:29:31.580 for my mind surveying the landscape mostly white homeless people would you agree or am i way out
00:29:39.080 to lunch on that yeah i mean that it's a sad thing but that's also what i've seen as well
00:29:44.860 like the home i mean especially you know you know where i live like there's a lot of homelessness
00:29:48.660 where i live um and it's exclusively i shouldn't say exclusively what it's excuse exclusively white 0.99
00:29:55.440 passing because there's a lot of homeless slabs out here like homeless ukrainians and polacks 0.55
00:30:00.760 but um we count as white never i have never you know what i mean though like homeless canadians 0.98
00:30:06.100 as in people who deserve your support because they're actually canadian versus homeless women
00:30:12.100 who speak so little english and they're like they're putting a little ukraine flag on their
00:30:16.760 thing and they're speaking in russian or ukrainian it's like why are you here go back to ukraine or 0.96
00:30:22.100 go fucking go to the u.s where they care i don't know um but like you never see homeless indians 0.98
00:30:27.280 i here's my theory with the indians they are already essentially homeless like they already 1.00
00:30:34.880 don't exist in the same social framework that we do so like there's so many indians that come over 1.00
00:30:39.960 and they literally don't have homes like they don't have permanent addresses they don't even 1.00
00:30:43.300 have id a lot of them are coming over like as illegals now we have a canada actually has a
00:30:48.320 huge illegal immigration problem now these people don't have visas and they're just living like 10 0.95
00:30:53.600 to a room so like is that like they don't go on the street and panhandle they just find so-and-so's 0.97
00:30:59.700 third cousin and they just sleep under his bunk you know what i mean and shit in the corner that's 0.92
00:31:04.460 what they do so i think there's a probably for every homeless white panhandler you see there's 0.99
00:31:10.260 50 indians doing that it's just that they're not it's just that's their life you know and they
00:31:15.780 enjoy and i said this to a few guys uh in some chat recently and i said this is why it's so
00:31:20.260 important as a white guy to be unreasonable in your demands because people will call you
00:31:26.260 unreasonable in a globally contextual way for saying my dream is to have a huge acreage of land
00:31:33.980 and then just have a house smack dab in the middle of it and have that be like self-savage
00:31:38.720 and that's what a lot of you know white guys in north america want to do the dream is to have
00:31:43.020 you know acreage of some kind you know even the suburban home it's like i want a village in the 0.96
00:31:48.820 middle of that but either way it's the same fucking thing is you have very tight control 0.93
00:31:52.140 of the people in the property yeah but the rest of the world if you look at india look at pakistan 0.98
00:31:57.220 look at fucking you know asia most of asia like people are you know we talked back in the day 0.99
00:32:02.280 many many episodes ago about how in hong kong you have seniors living in cages multi-level cages 1.00
00:32:08.840 that's all they can afford but if you look at even nice apartments most of the world they're 0.80
00:32:12.560 tiny. It's favelas. It's people crammed together. And it's only in the West where we enjoy at least
00:32:19.940 having some space. And what I've found is that it's difficult for me to make that argument
00:32:25.600 to non-whites because they don't get it. They look at that as if we're bourgeois. And you know what? 0.97
00:32:30.240 I'm done trying to justify it. I think it's better for an individual to have quite a bit of space.
00:32:36.560 And even if they're in a community having space and having access to space, it's not natural for 0.97
00:32:42.220 people like us to want to live shoulder to shoulder crammed in these fucking stacked 0.75
00:32:46.740 closet it's just not and you know i don't i don't i'm done trying to explain that to people i just 0.99
00:32:51.700 want it fuck you yeah you're right it's the people like us is the operative phrase there because 0.98
00:32:57.460 people like them actually do function to the highest you know ability that they have when 0.99
00:33:04.240 when operating in closed quarters which is i mean not that they operate very well at all but i mean
00:33:09.200 they're they're fine they're bugs they're slaves for us we don't operate well like that because we
00:33:13.840 are not like them we are totally different and that's why we colonize this place because we
00:33:18.640 needed space and it belongs to us so they show this is the little 50 minute city thing where
00:33:23.680 they're like you know the ideal form of transportation is just a highly highly advanced
00:33:28.240 public subway system that's rapid fast like no no no my ideal system is having that plot of land
00:33:35.080 and having multiple gas-powered vehicles.
00:33:37.900 So I not only have a truck, I have a four-wheeler,
00:33:40.540 I have a snowmobile, I got a dirt bike
00:33:42.660 because I need all of them.
00:33:44.380 The whole transit thing is like blending transit
00:33:46.700 into the 15-minute city is one of the Achilles heel of it,
00:33:50.000 I think, because you're talking past the deal,
00:33:53.260 again, talking about something with transit
00:33:55.320 that really doesn't have anything to do
00:33:56.820 with the social and cultural and like family aspect
00:33:59.700 of 15-minute cities.
00:34:00.600 But the idea of living in a village
00:34:01.840 where everything is 15 minutes away, like you said,
00:34:03.300 it doesn't matter whether it's walkable 15 minutes,
00:34:05.080 or drivable 15 minutes and you have your own vehicles,
00:34:07.900 either way, it's still a community.
00:34:10.840 And either way, the other thing is 15-minute cities
00:34:13.100 doesn't have to be pod living.
00:34:14.660 15-minute cities can be a town or a village
00:34:17.900 that everybody has a nice big house
00:34:20.460 with a large acreage and a yard and a fence.
00:34:24.100 You can do that too.
00:34:25.340 Like, it's so... 1.00
00:34:26.980 Fuck, no, we're totally off topic. 0.99
00:34:30.040 But there's only two modes of living of organization 0.99
00:34:34.660 that i'll accept one it's that what we've been talking about let's say it's the community but
00:34:39.020 it's aligned with space concerns or space cathedral
00:34:43.960 space cathedral yeah like a giant you know war cathedral in space it's one of those two there's
00:34:53.020 no in between for me i'll take one like i'll live in a pod like state if it is going interstellar
00:34:59.760 and we're, you know, bringing like war Christ
00:35:03.260 to the rest of the universe.
00:35:04.840 Okay.
00:35:06.560 We had enough wars on earth. 0.53
00:35:08.080 We settled it that Jesus, you know,
00:35:10.860 even if he's not white, he's Italian.
00:35:12.580 I heard that argument made that because Jesus
00:35:15.560 was technically a citizen of Rome,
00:35:18.220 he is canonically Italian. 0.98
00:35:19.780 I'll take Italian Jesus. 0.82
00:35:21.320 I posted that this afternoon.
00:35:22.840 Yeah.
00:35:23.520 Hey, fair enough. 1.00
00:35:25.080 Italian Jesus.
00:35:25.820 And we're taking that to the stars.
00:35:27.800 It's been. 0.83
00:35:28.480 And this will broker the deal between the two mortal enemies of the dissident right, which is Christians and Sopranos fans. 0.90
00:35:37.360 You can never get these two to Ciara and everything. 0.92
00:35:40.160 Guess what?
00:35:41.200 Who's the Christ now? 0.50
00:35:42.980 It's time.
00:35:47.620 So there's a lot that we could talk about because there's a lot of news stories that I wanted to cover.
00:35:54.580 however there is one that i think circumstance demands that we cover and you know once again
00:36:03.160 we're breaking our rule of discussing a developing story i just think we need to and uh i'm not even
00:36:10.660 going to read a headline i'm going to start with just describing what it is i think everyone will
00:36:14.340 kind of catch on the rhythm what are your thoughts on all those jews emerging from the sewers in new
00:36:20.360 york i was saying i was saying it's like like it's it's like late christmas like when you come
00:36:30.360 my favorite thing about it is combining it with the war in israel and epstein files being released
00:36:37.320 and it's like man jews cannot get a win this year it's just i've been saying i wrote on the
00:36:43.200 telegram channel i'm like it has been a bad 365 days for jews yes it has like i i even
00:36:50.220 the epstein files um we might not talk too much about that on this episode i did uh for the next
00:36:56.640 um real secret coffee hours the sister show the paywall show that we have i do review an article
00:37:03.580 that was written by a man named trevor leblanc for countercurrents who was making the case that
00:37:09.860 he dared to make the case that sure epstein is a mossad agent there's enough evidence to prove
00:37:16.900 that sure epstein was sex trafficking in women and including underage women including children
00:37:22.440 and yes he did traffic these people to elites and he did record it i just don't think that was
00:37:28.700 blackmail yeah that was his case i'm like i read it and so i'm not going to do it all right now
00:37:34.620 but that'll be going up next week as we got for that but that's a lot of fun anyway point being
00:37:40.080 that um the might have buried the lead on that one it seems to be accepted in the mainstream
00:37:47.460 discourse that jeffrey epstein was affiliated with the state of israel specifically mossad i don't
00:37:53.340 think many people debate that even those who want to be done with this whole epstein thing they have
00:37:59.560 to admit that right this was jeffrey epstein's mansion before it was recently sold for an
00:38:05.480 undisclosed amount nestled in rural Santa Fe County. The Zorro Ranch shows the beautiful landscapes of New Mexico. But what is said to occur in these recently unsealed documents is far from beautiful. This is how our elected leaders have characterized it in the past. There was questionable conduct on that ranch. It's just kind of a disgusting realization about what occurred in that building. More than 900 pages of documents released last week describing some of those disgusting details that occurred
00:38:35.460 here. They are a part of a civil suit by this woman, Virginia Jufri, against Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:38:42.100 Maxwell, a longtime acquaintance of Epstein, is currently serving prison time for child sex
00:38:47.540 trafficking. According to a former Mossad spy named Ari Ben Benaci, who stated on the record
00:38:54.340 and unequivocally that Epstein used his sex trafficking operation to blackmail politicians
00:39:00.020 on behalf of the state of israel suppose what the most alarming allegations that you've been making
00:39:06.500 are that the entire epstein operation was a honey trap operation to entrap politicians
00:39:13.540 policy makers celebrities people in the media eye basically to become israel's assets correct
00:39:22.020 that it became basically an intelligence operation
00:39:28.900 to entrap different politicians around.
00:39:33.760 Although only a few years ago,
00:39:35.280 that was an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory
00:39:37.460 that would get you kicked out.
00:39:39.160 But yeah, no, now it's like a known fact, you know?
00:39:43.060 Well, I was laughing with a couple of guys in the chat.
00:39:45.480 It might have been with Pan.
00:39:47.440 I was talking about this too,
00:39:48.460 but I'm like, this is Christmas for us.
00:39:51.620 This is all of our conspiracy forum stuff being litigated in the mainstream press.
00:39:58.700 Like if you read like the New York Times, they're having to admit like, yeah, he was
00:40:02.620 everything was true. 0.99
00:40:04.940 He was all the elites, all the illicit stuff, the Prince Andrew, the Clinton, everyone fucking 0.97
00:40:09.580 knows the the records were released. 0.90
00:40:11.260 Now, it's not too it's not especially damning.
00:40:14.180 Like there wasn't a whole lot, a whole lot of new information given from the Epstein
00:40:19.680 files being leaked.
00:40:20.640 however it's not great it just seemed to solidify what was already there and i i'd say pay close
00:40:27.620 attention to those who want you to move on from this be highly suspicious of them take names this
00:40:33.460 is i mean this is a really easy pattern now we've been following this with other news stories for
00:40:38.960 the past few years but sometimes they will flag themselves like with the jew thing and the jew
00:40:44.540 tunnels and like with the epstein thing anybody who's counter signaling it like you said and is
00:40:48.740 telling you uh nothing to see here folks ben shapiro obviously not that we didn't know that
00:40:53.220 already but uh yeah take names don't let them forget it that one thing is you just have to be
00:40:58.500 really consistent with with remembering that oh wasn't weren't you the guy six months ago who said
00:41:04.160 that uh it was just a bunch of bakurim under the tunnels and that they were just being zoomers
00:41:09.060 being zoomers and there's nothing to see here yeah how about we uh block and and never listen 0.64
00:41:15.440 to you again yeah um so going back to the main story which is you know if you'd like to describe
00:41:23.440 your feelings on this uh we'll probably pepper in a lot of uh new stories that kind of back this up
00:41:29.200 and i got a few articles that we can read but as it stands right now police make a wild discovery
00:41:36.700 underneath a synagogue in brooklyn an illegal tunnel found below the chabad lubovitch world
00:41:41.560 headquarters in Crown Heights. Fox 5's Lisa Evers takes a look at how it was discovered.
00:41:48.920 The NYPD was called to a location best known as a sacred site for the Chabad Lubavitch
00:41:54.440 Orthodox Jewish sect. Authorities say a group of Jewish men who had a long simmering disagreement
00:42:00.280 burrowed through tunnels under several buildings to break into the synagogue. They got into fights
00:42:05.560 and destroyed fixtures the cement truck was here and uh these these individuals or
00:42:11.960 some of their friends perhaps who broke through some of those adjoining properties
00:42:18.100 disrupted the repairs and ultimately broke through the wall in the sanctuary and vandalized that
00:42:26.460 that wall as well they've since been arrested and i've heard a lot of people a lot of ideas
00:42:32.420 being passed around about the story where it stands right now i think is that there was you
00:42:38.560 know i actually got you know i'll read this right here i'm looking at an article uh from crown
00:42:43.020 heights.info and it's uh shabbat news right yeah so that's i just wanted for for context crown
00:42:51.240 heights is the neighborhood that the 770 shabbat is in it's a chabad by the way but it's the crown
00:42:57.140 heights is the neighborhood it's a jewish neighborhood the crown heights website is run
00:43:01.660 by not just Jews, but Chabad Jews.
00:43:04.600 So you know that whatever they're saying 0.98
00:43:05.900 is already kid-gloving and covering for them.
00:43:07.980 And even then, they're admitting a lot on this website.
00:43:11.160 Yeah, yeah, the comments are the best.
00:43:12.980 But the headline here is Breaking Tunnel Found Burrowed
00:43:17.100 Under Women's Section of 770, Possibly Destabilizing the Building.
00:43:21.840 This is dated December 22, 2023.
00:43:26.140 So I'll read a couple excerpts here.
00:43:28.660 shock and horror in crown heights after a tunnel was found burrowed underground in the most
00:43:35.060 unlikely of places under 770 eastern parkway in crown heights uh no really we aren't joking
00:43:41.800 770 eastern parkway the headquarters of lubovitch in crown heights brooklyn united states
00:43:47.100 the accidental discovery happened nearly three weeks ago after a series of incidents rang alarm
00:43:53.860 bells with a gaboim of 770 i don't know what that i'm gonna hear a lot of jewish stuff
00:43:59.180 i don't know if that's them i don't know what gaboim is um gaboim yeah a union street homeowner
00:44:07.420 who spoke with crown heights dot info said that they had been hearing suspicious noises at night
00:44:12.840 in their home for a period of time as the noise continued the concerned homeowner notified someone
00:44:17.760 of the sounds and their suspicion um and this echoes a tweet that i had read recently and i
00:44:25.320 have no reason to believe that it's false but it was this uh guy on twitter who was retweeting a
00:44:31.380 tweet that he had written like a year or two prior saying like i know this is going to sound crazy
00:44:36.580 i live in brooklyn i live on the first floor of this apartment i can hear people speaking yiddish
00:44:42.960 under my floor and we don't have a basement yeah i don't know what what's happening and then he 0.99
00:44:48.380 reposted like vindic i wasn't fucking crazy there was jews like digging beneath his fucking 0.97
00:44:53.880 apartment and i don't know if it's a meme i don't know if i got controlled but i'm choosing to 0.97
00:44:59.660 believe that's real because this is this is perfect this is the best start to the year you
00:45:05.240 what's great about this story the story uh is that you and i and guys like us we don't really
00:45:11.420 need to do anything all yeah what i would love is just a super cut of this no editorializing
00:45:17.700 no voiceover narration just gather the news you don't need to show the video footage that a lot
00:45:24.840 of people saw of the nypd officers taping off the seat one of the entrances of the tunnels the jew 0.91
00:45:31.920 like the rabbis there are pulling out soiled mattresses from this network of tunnels what 0.98
00:45:37.220 the fuck's that about and a crowd of rabbis are screaming and fighting the cops trying to defend 0.98
00:45:44.100 their bizarre labyrinthine tunnel yeah just show them that and just step back you don't even need 1.00
00:45:51.160 commentary show your family and friends just the news and then show the rabbis crawling out of 0.57
00:45:58.200 sewer grates and i'm not trying to just be vulgar here but scurrying away like rats yes and then
00:46:06.440 ben shapiro says oh they're making fun of uh jews uh leaving a scene due to uh innovative egress 0.99
00:46:14.480 or whatever like no they're crawling out of the sewers like fucking rats from these illegal 0.98
00:46:19.920 tunnels not only did you were correct he was escaping he was running from the police he was 0.99
00:46:24.600 escaping arrest right because he's a criminal first of all he wasn't just exiting he was running
00:46:29.760 from the cops and he was exiting through a grate in the ground which had a hole cut in it and had
00:46:35.380 a newspaper stand placed over top of it to hide the hole. So this obviously was clandestine and
00:46:43.200 had been there for a while from the look of it. So you could reach up from below and push the
00:46:47.480 newsstand away and crawl up out of it. And again, what's down there? It's like a storm drain. He's
00:46:53.340 literally crawling through the storm drains and he runs off. I'm just describing what it was. He
00:46:58.420 held his hands together and he hunched over like a goblin and he ran off at an angle across the 0.99
00:47:04.560 street like it you can't make this shit up and that one almost when i first saw it i was thinking 0.99
00:47:10.980 this is somebody dressed up as a hasidic jew to make this look shitty but then you look at it over 1.00
00:47:17.300 and over and like the fear on the guy's face and like the disgusting physiognomy it's like no this 1.00
00:47:24.000 guy's actually a hasidic jew yeah and then you see photos from the tunnel because there's a couple 0.98
00:47:29.180 things that stand out about this story one you see the photos of the tunnel and there's like
00:47:33.000 children's high chairs in there there's mattresses it looks like it's not just it's not just when you
00:47:37.700 hear a tunnel it's not just to connect point a to point b these were seem to be like areas of
00:47:43.900 congregation or living as well i want to draw attention to this because my understanding of
00:47:47.380 this is a little bit different although i'm obviously getting the same information as
00:47:50.200 everybody else but everybody keeps saying the tunnel like you just did and they're pointing
00:47:54.360 to the stuff like the the very very suspicious stuff like dirty mattresses and everything
00:47:58.380 if you follow that video from the very beginning what's going on is the cops are going down through
00:48:03.220 like layers of basement that building is over 100 years old right so there's like layers of
00:48:07.660 unused storage rooms and basement it appears as though there was an old men's washroom in a 1.00
00:48:12.500 storage room that the bakarim who are these like essentially incel bachelors who don't have wives 0.98
00:48:18.380 were all down there fucking around that is where the mattresses and shit were found that already 0.99
00:48:24.660 is fucking weird there's that's not a tunnel that's just the dark locked basement of the 1.00
00:48:31.000 synagogue of the chabad has that shit in it dirty old bloody mattresses and children's shit and a 1.00
00:48:37.160 bunch of incel boys in the dark with their liquor bottles that's fucking weird now on top of that 1.00
00:48:43.340 at the far that whole room is filled with like one to two feet of dirt and rocks because they 0.96
00:48:48.480 broke the wall down in that lower basement and they've been tunneling out and then the thing
00:48:53.060 that the reason i want to bring this up is because people keep talking about what was found in that
00:48:56.560 room as if that's the story and that's not the story the story is there's a tunnel the tunnel
00:49:02.820 is the hole in the wall that goes off into the distance and the only information we've been given
00:49:07.340 so far is that it passes by the women's sect and this their uh what i forget what it's called but
00:49:14.560 they have like a shower or like a bath that they're supposed to cleanse themselves so the
00:49:18.580 women all go get naked so apparently they were like they were oh and that but that building is
00:49:23.460 closed so people are saying oh they're peeping toms is like no but that building's been closed 0.84
00:49:27.080 for a while so like this is now a way that they can access that these baths which are like if you
00:49:33.140 look at some of these interviews like the vice interview this is the notorious place it's like
00:49:37.660 a holy place but it's dark and steamy where they will rape and assault children they take them to
00:49:42.460 those baths so now they have a bath that's closed from the outside that accessible through the
00:49:47.160 tunnels right you following now also the tunnel goes farther than that but they're not saying
00:49:52.680 where it goes also that building is built on top of a series of tunnels that's been there for over
00:49:57.460 100 years and a lot of people were linking this but there's i see i saw these years ago and i
00:50:01.760 didn't make the connection but there's all kinds of urban explorers who have gone through all of
00:50:06.340 the underground tunnels there's a network like catacombs of tunnels under new york city um and
00:50:10.660 there's all kinds of stories of people going missing in there as well so i mean that's the
00:50:15.460 story i was hearing that there and it's hard to tell what is real and what's just an urban legend
00:50:19.620 but you know the story i was hearing from urban explorers and this is something you and i used to
00:50:23.920 do you know we don't talk about this often like you and i dabbled in that for a while when we both
00:50:28.240 live in toronto like we love going to like old abandoned buildings and just you know looking 0.58
00:50:33.500 around finding weird places and weird tunnels and back alleys and going into fucking like old
00:50:39.360 abandoned places anyway so that's very much a young man's game though um but we like doing it
00:50:44.500 And you would hear these stories. 1.00
00:50:45.960 And the story that we're hearing here is like, don't fuck with the Jewish tunnels. 0.99
00:50:49.320 Like you would go, people go missing, poking around the wrong sorts of tunnel or things that are used for trafficking certain things. 0.99
00:50:57.160 And, you know, even back when we were exploring this stuff, like it never occurred to us that there, you know, you'd always imagine there's homeless people.
00:51:03.540 You'd always imagine there's vagrants and probably like, you know, shady people.
00:51:07.620 but it never occurred to us back then because this would have been like a couple decades ago
00:51:12.900 not a couple decades but you know over a decade it's like the true depths of depravity that's
00:51:17.960 going on underground especially in a city like toronto or a city like new york like 10 times
00:51:23.500 what toronto would be i'm looking at the map here so there's a map that was circulating that shows
00:51:29.440 the route of the tunnel that we know so far and it's showing it on google maps right
00:51:35.640 um and the tunnel goes right by this one building uh the jewish children's museum
00:51:41.660 and people are you know looking at that but i'm also like wait you have a jewish children's 0.98
00:51:47.200 museum what the fuck's that about what why do you got a children's museum in the first place 0.99
00:51:53.280 like what the fuck is a children's museum like you have a bunch of children on display 0.99
00:51:57.940 and also it says hands-on exhibits i'm like i you know poor choice of words or do you do jews 0.99
00:52:05.280 really have a molestation museum get a life jews i guess so has anyone ever been to the jewish
00:52:10.740 children's museum drop us a comment but you made a good point that we're not hearing the full story
00:52:16.220 um and you know if you start to really read between the lines of the story what you were
00:52:21.460 seeing when that crowd of rabbis was assaulting the cops what were the cops doing there well
00:52:26.580 the cops allegedly were there to like fill the tunnel with cement that was the story i was
00:52:32.480 hearing because it is structurally unsound which causes you know a couple red flags to go up it's
00:52:38.120 like well if you discovered a tunnel like that i don't think immediately filling it with cement is
00:52:43.240 what you do is it yeah like to to restore stability that seems like something you would do to to bury
00:52:48.900 it but if you wanted to restore stability of a building you wouldn't just like clandestinely
00:52:53.940 fill it with cement that seems odd right putting aside the fact that if it was going to get filled
00:52:58.520 with cement at the very least city inspectors should come out and it would be some kind of
00:53:02.480 works department not police officers who are doing that but beyond that these are criminals right
00:53:08.420 they've been arrested why are they being arrested it's their own property well because the tunnel
00:53:12.360 goes under city property it goes under the street and it's been damaging private homes of other 0.97
00:53:17.120 people who are not chabadniks so this is a crime it's a fucking crime scene right so at the very 0.95
00:53:25.140 least go in and take some pictures but no like at the same time within the first few hours the 0.99
00:53:31.400 arrests are still being made jews are still crawling up out of the grates there's already 0.92
00:53:35.640 a cement truck there that they're pouring cement into it so it's because they're absolutely covering 0.93
00:53:39.960 up and back to this on the crown heights thing if anybody goes to that crown heights info
00:53:43.680 go on their instagram page look at their social media their social media i swear to you every
00:53:48.620 fourth or fifth post is about their relationship with the crown heights police precinct and about
00:53:55.100 how so many of their police officers are chabadniks and so many of them are jewish and how we
00:54:01.360 every time every season when there's a new group of officers we always bring them in and we have
00:54:06.420 lunch at chabad to explain to them the idiosyncrasies of working in a hasidic jewish 0.99
00:54:11.580 neighborhood it's like yeah you also you own the fucking police department is what you're saying 0.96
00:54:15.360 it's the mafia essentially yeah and what i want to get to is i'm looking at the crownite site 0.97
00:54:20.500 right now and i want to get to the comments because this is something that i wanted to
00:54:24.220 get to as well and the police thing is interesting actually just to mention something related to that
00:54:28.880 um you're hearing a lot of copes and a lot of stories trying to explain this away that
00:54:33.940 oh it was just this like tunnel that they a bunch of horny teens made right but you know have you
00:54:41.260 tried to dig a tunnel before a tunnel of that size it's like the idea that you could just dig
00:54:46.780 a tunnel without city officials knowing about it without the police showing up because a lot of
00:54:52.900 People seem to have been complaining about this, but they didn't really show up until much later, right?
00:54:58.680 So the idea that this was operating under the tolerance of the police, I think it needs to be required, right?
00:55:06.900 Like you need to almost have the cops in on this for it to get this far, maybe.
00:55:12.240 I don't know.
00:55:13.080 Yeah.
00:55:13.840 But another thing in that same vein is I'm looking at the comments here.
00:55:18.220 I'm just going to read the first one from Haim. 0.64
00:55:21.480 Jew. 0.88
00:55:22.900 he says this is called journalism with no evidence you write who the culprits are just so you can 0.58
00:55:28.800 further your agenda you know so we're and this is back when it was first published basically what
00:55:33.680 i'm showing you is all the jews responding to this very softball kid glove story by saying
00:55:39.100 how dare you implicate these people for digging the tunnel yeah and here's one from yw uh says
00:55:46.080 what sounds like a purim spiel how could that possibly be there are all kinds of pipes for
00:55:52.160 plumbing gas services and under under other infrastructure on these buildings and amateurs
00:55:56.400 doing hand digging would need way more time than this article indicates like denying that there's
00:56:01.380 a tunnel there saying that it's not even there yeah saying it's not even possible how could it
00:56:06.200 um we literally have video of it but okay he says i read your article and i can't believe
00:56:14.340 this is a modern day mesira regardless of how bad the people who did this are publicizing it 0.64
00:56:21.520 is going to cause harm to 770 and make a chill little Hashem and give our enemies munitions 0.72
00:56:27.980 against us you are equivalent to modern-day Hamas this is by Yosef Stamm oh yeah and he's using a 0.84
00:56:34.700 measure or measure measure I don't know how you pronounce it but I looked that one up because I 0.58
00:56:38.980 was curious what he's talking about a measure is in Jewish law like in the Talmud when a Jew
00:56:43.820 reports another Jew to a non-rabbinic authority there they get expelled so as he's essentially
00:56:49.780 saying yes we did do this but the fact that you're you a jew are outing us to the public on this 0.88
00:56:57.140 website you are you we should cast you out we should expel you that's what he's saying he's
00:57:02.800 saying that you have you have committed a crime against jews by telling the world what we're 0.53
00:57:06.940 actually doing down there and again it's funny because we're saying like jews essentially 1.00
00:57:12.760 especially hasidic jews but jews generally aren't as smart as people say they are and they're very 0.98
00:57:17.700 dysgenic and they're some of them are quite retarded and here's the guy literally calling 1.00
00:57:22.940 somebody else calling the person writing the article a measurer when he's doing the same 0.98
00:57:27.740 fucking thing anybody who looks up the yiddish is like oh so you're admitting that it's real 0.99
00:57:32.000 you're telling me like you're it's so funny like just make the comments private you dumbass yeah 1.00
00:57:39.140 here's another one from a commenter i can confirm that this is a hundred percent nonsense 0.99
00:57:45.560 No such tunnel exists.
00:57:47.740 Right.
00:57:48.180 Just the confidence there.
00:57:49.500 But this is also what you saw from the woman who runs Libs of TikTok.
00:57:55.020 This is also what you saw from Israel War Room on Twitter, like official Israel accounts.
00:58:00.900 First of all, Israel is telling you that this is an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory.
00:58:08.200 Anyone who talks about this, you should be suspicious of.
00:58:10.520 uh but for those of us who are used to reading between the lines we would wonder
00:58:14.160 why is israel weighing in on this why why what why does israel care about some weird thing that's 0.94
00:58:21.080 going on crown heights oh is it because they're part of this fucking semitic matrix like yes they 0.90
00:58:26.160 are and then the lie they tell you is that we have put two dudes in a room and they'll have 0.96
00:58:30.300 three arguments you know what i mean like yeah they try and tell you the story that they're not
00:58:34.860 running for each other's defense at every instance and they're telling here's what i
00:58:39.340 notice about this story was that there was three at least three copes for it and just like other
00:58:46.640 narratives that are sold to us by the jews they leave it up to you to pick which one you're 0.98
00:58:50.740 comfortable with so the first one was that this is just a porky situation this is just a bunch of 1.00
00:58:57.280 horny uh you know what are they called rabbis whatever the fuck we're trying to drill in and 1.00
00:59:03.440 see some jewish girls changing which you know they're being rambunctious a bunch of rapscallions 1.00
00:59:08.860 right yeah except that the women's sect was closed exactly like it does it's bullshit but 0.99
00:59:13.300 people were running to believe that the second is that uh and this is one that i saw a lot of 0.89
00:59:19.240 even guys on our side start to believe um because they wanted to believe it was that
00:59:23.800 this was the result of the covid lockdowns and that what was happening was these tunnels were for
00:59:30.080 just these extremely pious jews so they could worship in peace during a time when they weren't
00:59:36.080 allowed in the synagogue um as sort of like you know libertarians like they were trying to protest
00:59:41.900 the lockdowns which again doesn't make any fucking sense also i haven't i haven't had anybody prove 0.93
00:59:47.660 to me that they uh were closed during the lockdown because what i remember if people have fucking 0.92
00:59:52.180 short memories i remember churches getting closed but i remember a lot of synagogues getting a pass 0.88
00:59:58.180 because remember the police officers are the one enforcing it and if you have jewish hasidic cops
01:00:03.840 they're not going to enforce it also by the way i forget what it's called the something im but they
01:00:07.860 they have their own like police force you know like the sharia courts have their own like goons
01:00:12.180 that go around in muslim areas the hasidic jews have their own same thing so like that compete 0.96
01:00:16.900 directly with the police and like rough people up so i don't even believe that especially that 0.99
01:00:22.780 location which by the way is the global headquarters of chabad it is the it is the 0.83
01:00:28.140 the head of the snake yeah i don't want that to get lost either i don't want it to get lost that
01:00:32.500 This was just some old synagogue or some old thing. 0.95
01:00:35.100 Don't tell me that that 770 of Chabad's headquarters
01:00:38.940 was actually closed during COVID,
01:00:41.020 that they weren't letting people in. 1.00
01:00:42.080 That's fucking ridiculous. 0.99
01:00:44.920 I got one comment here. 1.00
01:00:46.600 I was just scrolling as you were saying that.
01:00:48.300 Quick update on the crownheights.info article.
01:00:52.300 Comment made by Shimon. 0.98
01:00:54.740 Jew.
01:00:55.840 Addressed to the author, Haim.
01:00:57.800 Haim, are you also a Holocaust denier? 1.00
01:01:00.320 wow jesus christ damn it's written by a hasidic jew you dumb fucking idiot i know 1.00
01:01:11.220 they'll say that to fucking anything but like again that the second story was that these this 1.00
01:01:16.420 was just sort of like a libertarian a good trouble resistance which again no evidence of it but 0.98
01:01:21.540 people were just willing to believe that so like a lot of jewish stories it's a it's a buffet and 0.82
01:01:27.480 you pick whatever you want to feel comfortable other than the truth which is what you should 0.87
01:01:32.180 be asking just to finish this point they are clear and jews are saying this to you the libs 0.57
01:01:36.980 of tiktok lady was saying that it's like the the question you have to ask isn't what the truth is 0.62
01:01:42.840 the question you ask is why are you people lying about this because these are obvious lies we know
01:01:48.260 they were lies tell me why you're lying that's what that's the only thing people should be asking
01:01:53.920 right now i i was just gonna say on on the note about the whole like libertarian yeah go jews 0.68
01:01:59.400 sticking it to the man by digging a tunnel where you're not supposed to i wish people would quit
01:02:03.480 universalizing white ethics and white principles like it does work for us if it was if it was a
01:02:09.860 church a christian church that dug a tunnel i'd be right there with them i'd be helping i'd be 0.86
01:02:14.320 right there with a shovel the reason that it's good for us and bad for them is because they're
01:02:19.060 them and we're us you know what i mean their ethics don't apply to us and our ethics don't 0.99
01:02:23.560 apply to them things that we do that are right when like get it through your fucking head stop 0.97
01:02:27.480 universalizing ethics when the group that you're talking about this out group is literally your 0.99
01:02:32.120 existential enemy who are purpose-built and bred to kill you so like fucking cut it out okay yeah 0.98
01:02:39.540 yeah that that's a good point and also sorry i was just trying to find the tweeting question it 0.98
01:02:45.580 was tim pool who posted that tweet that we're referring to where he was saying that if it turns
01:02:52.200 out that this is what they were doing then based it's so based of them for doing and i'm like you
01:02:59.620 know hey it's not it wouldn't be based it's like you don't need to like jump the defense of every
01:03:04.560 illegal thing right um but yeah but then the question again once you cut through like why
01:03:10.880 are you people lying because you're clearly lying you're clearly trying to cover it up i got a video
01:03:15.060 of a crowd of screaming rabbis trying to cover up what's going on then we can start to uncover 0.88
01:03:21.120 what's really going on down there this wouldn't be big news if not for the lies if any jew was 0.99
01:03:27.440 willing to come out and say that's fucked up what they're doing they would never will yeah that's 0.99
01:03:32.620 something that white people would do but that's because we're weak you know but jews will never 0.98
01:03:37.480 do that and you need to you need to not let them get away with it you need to point it out if you
01:03:41.180 hear that story you would say well you know the politicians you know they didn't build a second
01:03:46.640 congress beneath congress so the politicians could do their job they just went to each other's houses 0.97
01:03:53.320 and had parties that's what happened and we have proof of that so why couldn't the jews just 0.94
01:03:57.980 worship or meet in each other's fucking they walk up brownstones yeah and they also did that too so 0.98
01:04:05.460 like what i don't people shouldn't be so quick to just believe the first jewish lie what you should 0.99
01:04:10.620 be concerned about is the amount of jewish lies and it wouldn't be news if there weren't so many 0.99
01:04:14.920 fucking lies this is the thing jews do is they they get they're too aggressive with their neuroses 1.00
01:04:21.340 it's a shotgun blast of copes and lies it's like okay you're clearly hiding something i we might 1.00
01:04:27.360 have let this fly under the radar as like a weird thing but like you you all immediately circle the 0.98
01:04:32.420 wagons okay so this is something right and now we're talking about fucking like urban explorers 0.85
01:04:38.400 disappearing and now i assume they were eaten by rabbis the fever pitch of this in the past 72 0.93
01:04:44.020 hours has reached a point i can only imagine this is what it was like in central european cities in 0.98
01:04:49.660 the 17th and 16th century where it you know word starts going around that some kike has poisoned 0.95
01:04:55.520 the well and is doing blood libel and baby sacrifices in the in the the basement of the 0.99
01:05:01.260 the synagogue and then they run the jews out of town like i feel i feel like i'm in the middle
01:05:06.320 of a mob calling for blood right now and i love it i love it and it's like this is the first time 0.85
01:05:12.260 ever that it seemed like even the mainstream the left the jews themselves are in total damage 0.57
01:05:18.620 control mode because they see how rapidly this story is spinning out of control it's beautiful
01:05:25.080 let me just say there is one quote here just back to crown heights thing one of our guys got through
01:05:29.500 this is by uh haim goldberg shekelblatt he writes tunnels what tunnels there wasn't 6 000 square foot
01:05:39.460 of tunnels how could a group of practicing hadids uh dig 600 square foots of tunnels even suggesting
01:05:45.560 that the work started on 60 square foots of tunnels and then that comment is still up like 0.82
01:05:56.720 they're such boomers they can't delete it yeah exactly they don't know how to do it they don't 0.96
01:06:01.320 know how to use their own fucking message board oh man what a great like you people should really 1.00
01:06:05.900 read this stuff like and i like that point that you said like this sounds like a 17th century 0.99
01:06:10.020 no when you a jew in town gets accused of something um and then every jew there jumps
01:06:16.720 to their like this is why jews get expelled people that's what i'm gonna say like it it is
01:06:20.960 like those i think because the reason i'm saying that i didn't explain it fully but like 0.79
01:06:24.120 the you get this this action reaction going back and forth where the jews do a shitty thing 0.73
01:06:29.380 but they cover it up and they convince us by gaslighting us but every time that happens 0.95
01:06:34.200 we get wound up just a little bit more and just a few more of us begin to believe in these
01:06:38.140 conspiracies about the Jews but that keeps happening there eventually is a tipping point
01:06:42.760 where it all just overflows and it's like nope we're done if you don't want blood you need to
01:06:47.740 get out if you don't leave there's going to be blood and that's the expulsion and I do feel like
01:06:52.220 it I don't know I don't think this is that but I think we we're starting to see bubbles rising to
01:06:58.220 the surface like it's starting to boil these again it's only been like what 48 hours 72 hours
01:07:03.100 and this is just fucking everywhere it's on the new york post it's like it's everywhere it's great 0.87
01:07:08.560 um uh and and one thing like you were saying the process by the which these expulsions happen is 0.97
01:07:14.000 you know a weird thing happens every single jew either tries to cover up or defend it
01:07:18.260 and then we being that makes people more angry we'd be like do you so you all stand by this
01:07:24.220 you're telling me every single one of you stands by this okay then you're all going 0.64
01:07:27.940 Maybe we don't even want to, but if it's like, if every single Jew is going to say that this is no big deal, you're all kind of guilty. 0.94
01:07:35.900 It's definitely a big deal. 0.99
01:07:37.400 If official Israel accounts and every Jewish leader is calling me an asshole for caring about this, then I guess I know where you fucking stand. 0.99
01:07:46.360 Yeah, you drew the line. 1.00
01:07:46.920 I guess everyone fucking knows. 0.99
01:07:49.660 Yeah, exactly. 0.99
01:07:51.360 And I said to people, we didn't want to wake up just being anti-Semitic. 0.99
01:07:56.520 we just wanted to be online today we just wanted to go and look at our memes and then this fucking 0.97
01:08:02.100 story falls in our lap and now you're getting mad at me that it's in my lap i didn't know none of us 0.99
01:08:07.120 did this you yeah we didn't we didn't make you dig child rape tunnels just so that we could be
01:08:12.140 anti-semitic you know i'm happy to be not anti-semitic if you would just stop digging 0.98
01:08:16.880 child rape tunnels then i could maybe i'd like jews you know i mean this is the thing if jews 0.99
01:08:21.160 would quit doing all this jew shit i'd love jews they'd be my favorite people probably but they 1.00
01:08:25.880 just keep doing all this jew shit like raping kids and building tunnels under the town and 1.00
01:08:30.160 taking over institutions like can you just stop seriously come on okay oh wait there was another 1.00
01:08:36.700 one though i just because it's a neat bit of symmetry you know previously we were already
01:08:40.620 talking about this a few months ago because of the war in israel and they're talking about you
01:08:43.220 know they're leveling gaza right now you know they're talking about building parking lots and 0.74
01:08:46.260 shit already they're going through every single house every apartment block school church christian 0.94
01:08:50.880 churches too right not just the mosques and they're saying well there's tunnels under each 0.99
01:08:54.600 and every one of these and we can't tell one from the other so we're just going to level the whole 0.99
01:08:58.260 fucking thing these horrible horrible terrorists are hiding in tunnels and it's like well the 0.99
01:09:03.740 history of israel after all the jews went over there after the second world war is they had a 1.00
01:09:08.060 very hard fight against the locals against the jordanians and the egyptians and whoever else 0.51
01:09:12.080 during that period i'm fucking the history of but the point is is it was a guerrilla war where they 0.97
01:09:16.220 did the exact same thing they originated this shit they were building a tunnel system all through 0.97
01:09:21.280 jerusalem and tel aviv and all over the fucking place and that's how they part of the way that 0.98
01:09:25.100 they won that was by building tunnel systems and now the irony is they have plaques and like 0.93
01:09:31.740 memorials in israel today memorializing the freedom fighters and guerrillas who hid in those 0.81
01:09:37.440 tunnels and stuck their head out of manholes to shoot at muslims they're bombing gaza because 0.99
01:09:41.980 the muslims are doing the same fucking thing and apparently they're building the same tunnels in 1.00
01:09:46.300 new york who knows they're probably in toronto too and now they're denying that they build tunnels 0.99
01:09:50.760 and it's like not only do you build tunnels it's like a part of your national history that you are 0.98
01:09:56.500 excellent tunnel builders like this is a whole thing not to psychoanalyze them but jews did
01:10:02.620 come up with the concept of projection because only something like projection would come from 0.98
01:10:08.080 a jewish mind that's what they do all the time it's not only were you not only were they not 1.00
01:10:13.980 using tunnels you invented using tunnels for this purpose you were literally the the mole people 1.00
01:10:20.680 and you're calling me a nazi for saying why do you have all these fucked up tunnels 0.97
01:10:24.900 why do you have these horny tunnels excuse me i'm just asking jeez can i also point to one other 0.90
01:10:31.420 article um that we had to find the archive version of because this is not findable or
01:10:37.340 discoverable anywhere on a search engine but it was published in vice and the title is the child
01:10:44.660 rape assembly line and this was published in 2013 um and this was actually a jewish individual
01:10:52.420 who was calling attention to a child rape assembly line going on the semitic community
01:10:58.120 says rabbi nukem rosenberg who is 63 with a long graying beard recently sat down with me to explain
01:11:04.740 what he described as a child rape assembly line among sects of fundamentalist jews um he said a
01:11:11.800 Member of Brooklyn's Satmar Hasidim Fundamentals Branch of Orthodox Judaism.
01:11:16.920 This again, designs and repairs mikvahs in compliance with Torah law.
01:11:22.200 He says, on a visit to Jerusalem in 2005,
01:11:25.600 Rabbi Rosenberg entered into a mikvah in one of the holiest neighborhoods in the city.
01:11:31.200 Maya Shirim, I quote, I opened the door and entered into a schvitz, he told me.
01:11:36.700 Vapors everywhere, I can barely see.
01:11:38.240 My eyes adjust and I see an old man my age, long white beard.
01:11:41.000 a holy looking man sitting in the vapors on his lap facing away from him a boy maybe seven years 0.99
01:11:45.760 old and the old man is having anal sex with a boy uh the child sex abuse crisis in ultra orthodox 0.99
01:11:52.740 judaism like that in the catholic church has produced its share of shocking headlines in 0.99
01:11:57.120 recent years which is interesting let's just pause there like all you hear is people talk 1.00
01:12:01.580 about the catholic church but you don't hear about the jewish side of it even though there's
01:12:05.520 been justice yeah even if they are printed it's buried like this is in vice right there's a 0.76
01:12:10.820 a jew back in 2013 who was trying to ring the alarm bells about this and they tried to destroy
01:12:17.020 his career after this and you can't find this article anymore i'm looking at an archive that
01:12:21.180 proves it existed but they took it down it looks like here's one just as a side tangent like you
01:12:25.960 hear about it as a meme that the catholics abuse kids that the catholic priests abuse kids but how
01:12:31.420 many like high profile um cases like actual court cases are there because you would think with how
01:12:37.220 much the government and the courts hate Catholics, it'd be really, really easy to convict a Catholic
01:12:43.260 priest of childbirth. But it doesn't happen that often. It's weird, right? But if I was looking up
01:12:48.040 the, after I read this article, I was looking up the stats on Wikipedia, which is probably,
01:12:52.300 it's biased against, you know, it's biased against us. It's biased in the favor of the
01:12:56.560 Hesedim. Just in Brooklyn, just in the past 20 years, there've been some obscene number, like 1.00
01:13:02.180 150 rabbis rabbis 150 rabbis just in a 20-year period just in brooklyn who were charged and
01:13:10.060 convicted of child rape like that's but no no no news about that at all nobody knows that unless
01:13:17.680 you specifically look it up not not only do you not talk about it no one's heard of that
01:13:23.200 like go ask people that the first time i heard of it that blew my mind when i read that it's in
01:13:27.380 the zeitgeist that oh a priest is gonna bless you it's mentioned in songs is mentioned as a joke
01:13:31.600 It's like, but when's the last we heard anyone even mention that it's just as bad, if not
01:13:35.760 worse, in the, like, here's a hundred times worse.
01:13:39.000 Here's a quote from the vice article.
01:13:42.520 Rabbi Rosenberg believes around half of young males in Brooklyn's Hasidic community, the
01:13:48.200 largest in the United States and one of the largest in the world, have been victims of
01:13:52.060 sexual assault perpetrated by their elders.
01:13:54.740 Ben Hirsch, director of Survivors for Justice, a Brooklyn organization that advocates for
01:14:00.680 orthodox sex abuse victims thinks the real number is higher from he says from anecdotal evidence
01:14:06.560 we're looking at over 50 it's almost become a rite of passage ultra orthodox jews who speak out
01:14:12.840 about these abuses are ruined and condemned to exile by their own community so there is a giant
01:14:18.820 jewish cover-up of this um yeah anyway i'm just i'm not gonna read the whole article that's like
01:14:26.080 the the broad strokes that you can find this um floating around the archive of it um but like
01:14:31.720 here's a man who says i stumbled across he literally stumbled across the book and and that
01:14:36.940 was the word i forgot so he's saying it was a mikvah that's their like their uh their ceremonial
01:14:42.120 holy sauna that they all get naked and cleanse themselves before holidays that's the thing that
01:14:46.520 the tunnel was digging to was like the women's the women's mikvah or whatever but like again it
01:14:52.120 was it was closed so you want to know what it was closed was it closed forever because maybe they're
01:14:56.960 like look there's a mikvah that we can use for our purposes that's my point that's what i believe
01:15:02.900 that's what i believe is the tunnel went to the mikvah the mikvah the mikvah was closed from the 0.95
01:15:07.080 outside so if you wanted to like look fuck man has anybody searched the mikvah there might literally 0.96
01:15:12.860 be kids in there right now i haven't heard shit about it all i've heard is that it's been closed 0.99
01:15:17.280 for a while the tunnel goes there has anybody thought to fucking cut the locks off the door 0.99
01:15:21.460 and see who's in there for fuck's sake like because because why why else would they be digging there 0.98
01:15:26.800 like unless it was to access it because they do believe it's a holy cleansing place so they're 0.97
01:15:31.660 probably but they're they're clearly trying to use it for probably the purposes outlined in this vice
01:15:37.720 article like it's good it's they're digging a hole to a child rape room yeah and that's a child 0.66
01:15:42.680 we've seen jews saying like you are an enemy of the jews if you give this ammunition to our real 0.74
01:15:48.520 enemies. The real enemies to them aren't the Jewish child rapists, by the way. The real enemies 1.00
01:15:53.600 aren't the quote-unquote extremists who tried to dig this tunnel. The real enemies are the people
01:15:57.700 who notice that and have an opinion on it. This isn't for us to dislike. This is something for
01:16:03.160 the Jews to tolerate. Well, and it's right there in the Talmud too, that violating a child, 1.00
01:16:09.940 especially a child apparently under the age of three, a female child under the age of three is
01:16:14.440 not a crime to a jew that's right there in the talmud also in the talmud it's not a crime ever
01:16:19.280 to anally penetrate a boy another thing is it's not a crime ever to have any kind of sex as long 0.66
01:16:25.480 as the sex is degenerate so it's if it's vanilla sex that's a that's a sin don't do that but if 0.99
01:16:31.900 it's weird sticking your dick in someone's ear and and cutting their eyes with a hot poker that's 0.99
01:16:37.560 not a sin because it's not sex it's just another act especially if it's with a goy like these 1.00
01:16:43.040 don't don't give them the opportunity don't give them the benefit of the doubt that they're doing 1.00
01:16:49.480 this shit they are absolutely doing it and i somebody said in the chat and i absolutely 0.96
01:16:53.580 believe this the fact that this is being printed on the crown heights info site the fact that the 1.00
01:16:59.180 mainstream media is running with this means that there's so much of this going on that they 0.95
01:17:04.740 couldn't cover the whole fucking thing and and the the toe of the elephant is slipping out from 0.95
01:17:09.080 underneath the sheet there and they're giving you this piece so that we have something to chew on 0.98
01:17:13.800 and now they can control the narrative and they can put up walls around it but the truth of it
01:17:18.180 is is everything that's happening here is happening in every borough in the tri-state
01:17:22.180 it's happening toronto it's happening in vancouver it's happening in chicago it's happening in miami 0.94
01:17:26.340 it's happening and i've been in hong kong it's happening in fucking hong kong i was telling 0.77
01:17:29.780 an anecdote about that because i've been the like four floors of a building and the main floor 0.84
01:17:37.520 is like their worship area and then the other floors all above it are their like living places
01:17:42.980 or something like that which all of the elevators to those floors have been permanently locked so
01:17:47.660 you can only access them by going to the lower floor and then going up the stairs which is really
01:17:51.900 weird to me and i was i was kind of working with these guys on a project for the company and um 1.00
01:17:57.060 it's just weird you go there on holidays sometimes and you see them all like these dysgenic freaks 0.99
01:18:01.940 shoulder to shoulder in this room jumping around and you're i don't know if you saw the interview 1.00
01:18:05.700 with the one hasidic guy who like can't even form a sentence because he's so inbred that like his 0.86
01:18:10.700 brain doesn't work these were the kinds of guys that were in there and again i'm there because 1.00
01:18:15.180 i've been hired to help them with something and they're so inconceivably rude like the the hasidic 1.00
01:18:21.160 guys they just they almost it's like i don't exist like i'm an animal they'll push by you 1.00
01:18:25.700 and like not look you in the eye or say hello or like they're just the fucking weirdest people 0.99
01:18:29.680 they're worse than the french i agree completely and that's they see you as lesser and when you 0.97
01:18:35.280 speak to a lot of these people you know like you had mentioned that they talk about this
01:18:38.740 in the talmud and i've heard some people push back on that and say well no jew really cares
01:18:44.260 about the talmud and i say well i guess you don't need rabbis then because the torah is one thing
01:18:48.440 but most rabbis the talmuds of rabbinical texts that usually needs rabbis to interpret it like
01:18:54.480 the main reason rabbis are there and to interpret this very dense labyrinthine rabbinical text and
01:18:59.820 make sense of it and be the representation of that to the community so if you think the talmud 0.64
01:19:04.600 doesn't have any bearing on jewish life you're just you're either a jew lying to me or you're
01:19:11.380 a regular person who doesn't know how these individuals operate but once you deal with 1.00
01:19:15.580 them as you did you'll see that they treat you like fucking swine they treat you like you're 0.99
01:19:19.080 subhuman because you're not jews despite the fact that they all have inbred down syndrome apparently 1.00
01:19:23.760 yeah yes and they don't think that's wrong i swear to god it's only white people who seem to 0.94
01:19:29.660 think being inbred is wrong i get that feeling do you get that feeling it does seem that way doesn't
01:19:35.380 it just um revealed preference you might say i was you know this is something i was going to talk
01:19:40.480 about i didn't know how but i'm just gonna graph this onto this topic now because we have to move
01:19:45.320 on to a couple other things but i was there was a study that was revealed recently on twitter
01:19:51.180 showing just the sheer depraved scope 0.95
01:19:55.060 of Pakistani inbreeding in the UK. 1.00
01:19:59.900 And it's one of those things that it's such a bad thing 1.00
01:20:02.000 they can't wallpaper over it anymore.
01:20:05.000 Cousin marriages have been a long-established cultural tradition
01:20:08.600 amongst many British Pakistani families.
01:20:11.440 But it's not just within this community.
01:20:14.300 In the past, the British royal family married their first cousins too.
01:20:17.680 Today, though, it is mostly Pakistani, Bangladeshi and some Middle Eastern and East African families
01:20:24.120 that continue the custom.
01:20:27.120 What's your view about cousin marriages?
01:20:29.320 For 800 years, we prefer to marry within our families, may not be the first cousin,
01:20:36.040 may be the second cousin or third cousin, but we marry.
01:20:39.440 I am married for the last 25 years successfully with my first cousin, and I've got five children.
01:20:47.400 Thanks to Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala that they're all fine and well.
01:20:51.120 I married to my first cousin. 0.53
01:20:52.900 I've seen many benefits of it.
01:20:55.080 You're in the same circle of relatives as your partner
01:20:58.480 and they have a real understanding
01:21:00.380 and often probably go that extra mile.
01:21:03.240 My wife is my mother's sister's daughter.
01:21:07.340 Yeah, we are cousins, but...
01:21:09.240 Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, thank you.
01:21:11.800 My children, all three are healthy. 0.98
01:21:12.840 So would you encourage your children to marry your cousins?
01:21:14.760 If they want to.
01:21:15.560 their parents find it hard to come to terms with the idea that as first cousins they pass down a
01:21:22.340 gene that caused their children's terrible disabilities what does the doctors actually
01:21:27.980 told you about this you told you that it's it could be anything to do with the fact that you
01:21:32.120 two are first cousins yes they're told this is a genetic disease but I don't think this is right
01:21:38.360 But they told us, my other brother, he got to marry with her sisters. 1.00
01:21:45.380 He got five children, all of them, perfectly right.
01:21:48.280 There's no disability with them.
01:21:50.380 And it's even in the BBC.
01:21:51.720 I'm looking at a video on the BBC right now.
01:21:54.260 Headline, British-Pakistani couples warned of birth defect risk.
01:21:58.740 More than half of British-Pakistani children born between 2007 and 2011
01:22:03.820 were born to parents who were blood relatives.
01:22:06.440 um and then they're born with like some form of birth defect and there's like videos of them
01:22:12.000 and i'm looking at a here's a funny thing i'm on reddit right now on the r slash pakistan subreddit
01:22:19.000 um because pakistan has their own redditors too and uh the head the topic here is what is the
01:22:25.980 most practical and efficient way to stop inbreeding in pakistan i wonder if this was written by a
01:22:30.860 pakistani um let's see here uh the the the sec the third and second and first cousin marriages
01:22:38.300 are more than a third of the birth defects um man this has to stop or within three to four 0.99
01:22:44.100 generations will be as inbred as the ptolemies or the hasburg dynasty with fucking jaws it's like 0.94
01:22:49.860 well you're already there but i'm looking at the answers to this it's so funny and i assume these 0.99
01:22:54.420 are pakistanis um here we go here's an answer to how to stop the pakistanis from fucking their 0.95
01:23:00.460 cousins education and destigmatizing the notion of marriage outside the family um he's like to 0.97
01:23:08.800 fix this you'll have to change the idea is that a wife has to serve the parents of the husband
01:23:13.060 educate people about how to get married to someone who's actually compatible with you
01:23:17.100 and many many more things so feminism i don't understand how that prevents the cousin marriage
01:23:21.500 yeah that's just like you need to go and introduce them to how to be a girl boss and teach them about
01:23:26.280 meet cute scenarios i'm like that's you think they just don't know i think they haven't heard
01:23:31.820 of not marrying your cousin it's so funny because the thing that everyone's identifying as the
01:23:35.820 obvious problem is just a very practical biological thing that your children are all 0.99
01:23:40.320 fucked up and die at a young age of horrible congenital diseases so wouldn't that be the 0.94
01:23:45.040 first thing and i answer my own question because it's like oh it's not the first thing because in 1.00
01:23:49.600 pakistani culture even the people giving the responses they don't give a fuck about the 0.84
01:23:53.440 children they literally do not get their children they don't care endable they just they just do 0.82
01:23:58.180 not care and it is funny when they do the sob story documentaries about the kids look my heart 0.91
01:24:02.240 goes out to the kids i feel sorry for the kids because i'm a retarded white man who still hasn't 0.89
01:24:06.940 learned to stop feeling sorry for other people's kids but they don't even feel sorry for their own 0.99
01:24:10.980 fucking kids you can't tell me they do because you know what if they did that woman in that 0.99
01:24:15.260 documentary who had like five retarded kids you'd think after the third one she would understand and 1.00
01:24:21.100 she'd fucking stop but she didn't and she's got five retarded kids that will all be dead by 18 0.99
01:24:26.900 yeah it's like uh here's a comment here first cousin marriages are bad but second cousins 0.99
01:24:32.580 or whatnot is not that bad plus the ill effects are overinflated really so within pakistan there's
01:24:37.200 they're still making coping for like uh for inbreeding but it's like you'd made a great
01:24:43.080 point there that i really want to drill down into and this is something i've noticed with my own
01:24:47.040 child that i noticed that he's a clone of me you know you really do feel connected to your child
01:24:54.160 because they look like you first of all but second of all you know genetically that they come from
01:24:59.280 your biological material so you understand that scientifically but then also you start to see your
01:25:04.880 traits mirrored in them and you feel a true responsibility for them like i feel a true
01:25:08.960 responsibility for my son i want to raise him to be a competent person because i think i want to set
01:25:14.540 them up for success that's very important to me it's very important with you and your daughters
01:25:18.780 and the more i i pay close attention to black families and brown families they really and
01:25:25.900 white families to a certain like there's like lower class whites i'm not saying that this
01:25:29.220 doesn't affect whites at all i'm just saying it disproportionately affects non-whites that
01:25:32.860 i don't think they see children as extensions of themselves i don't think they feel really
01:25:39.800 any responsibility for their children um and like i said you get that with whites too especially
01:25:45.320 maybe older generations but i'm like i don't know man like when i look at how blacks and browns 0.99
01:25:49.580 raise their kids like you said they don't they don't seem to give a shit about them and they 0.98
01:25:53.200 see them as burdens on their lives and what they want to do and they feel like they need to be their 0.92
01:25:57.460 caretakers yeah you just see them as just like this random thing that happened like if you after 0.99
01:26:02.760 you give birth to your third retarded kid you would say like you know what i don't want to 1.00
01:26:08.120 keep giving birth to retarded kids i'm going to try and prevent that but it's just it never occurred 0.99
01:26:14.380 to them to stop it would occur to a white person to stop eventually as bad as you know you want to 1.00
01:26:21.000 just say you're cursed to having down syndrome kids but i'm like at a certain point you're like
01:26:25.200 okay this is i'm creating an incomplete life due to my decisions you would feel responsibility for
01:26:32.520 that they don't feel responsibility for anything ever yeah you know he's got a solution for the
01:26:38.060 actually you know i don't know if i can get in this i need to get some some show stuff out of
01:26:42.920 the way let me just give two articles that i recently read that i thought were kind of
01:26:48.660 interesting that show that i think the tide is starting to turn on this because i want to end
01:26:53.040 with what we may call uh shine pill so there's two articles from the guardian and we're going
01:27:01.440 all the way over to Germany to read these.
01:27:03.840 So the first one I think will interest you the most.
01:27:06.420 This was published December 27th of 2023.
01:27:11.640 Headline, Far-Right Extremists Stage Rural Land Grabs Across Germany.
01:27:17.600 The far right has been named the biggest danger to democracy here.
01:27:22.700 While some extreme groups are easy to recognize,
01:27:26.160 two hours outside Berlin,
01:27:27.660 a less well-known community is also being monitored by the authorities this is the
01:27:34.680 headquarters of the kingdom of Germany um so this is my ID yes I need your ID part of a
01:27:40.940 self-proclaimed independent state where I need a visa to visit so just one day yeah
01:27:47.040 the reichsburger movement aims to establish parallel societies by infiltrating schools
01:27:53.820 clubs and public offices um and there's a photo here of the reich citizens movement organized
01:28:00.540 at doing a doing a protest here raising their flags uh i'm just gonna read a couple paragraphs
01:28:05.560 here a strategic rural land grab by right-wing extremists is you know like what makes them
01:28:11.560 extremists that they want to do a land grab like doing a buying land is an extreme whatever
01:28:16.300 is taking place across germany with the concerted aim of creating communities independent of the
01:28:22.360 state according to the domestic intelligence agency and government ministries what is so
01:28:27.560 extreme about that i want to i want to start a town i want to start a town and do my own thing
01:28:31.980 yeah i know right authorities and ngos monitoring far-right groups say the members of the reichsberger
01:28:39.600 movement who reject the post 1945 german state not based are making a targeted effort to establish
01:28:46.960 parallel societies and infiltrate existing structures according to a request for information
01:28:54.040 from the federal interior ministry by martha renner right-wing extremist organizations have
01:28:59.640 bought 40 properties across germany in the past two years the figure indicates an acceleration
01:29:05.840 of a pattern observed for more than a decade in which hard to sell houses pubs and foreign land
01:29:11.380 properties are being snapped up and used by the right-wing groups from for everything from living
01:29:16.140 space to birthing houses sports halls and party venues sounds fair you know i mean like if they
01:29:23.080 were trying to say like they're using them as militia trading grounds even then it's also funny
01:29:28.300 that they call it a land grab but it's like a land grab is usually like you go in and like kick
01:29:33.160 somebody off their land like you know what the israelis do to the palestinians but no this is
01:29:36.800 literally just them buying land nobody else is using and then going into institutions how well
01:29:41.620 by getting elected into them like democratically because people want them there they're trying to
01:29:45.920 make it seem like people oh yeah but the citizens we talk to these citizens and they hate them it's
01:29:49.820 like well apparently not all of them because they're getting elected they're getting elected
01:29:53.760 in the public office okay so is it a land grab if a bunch of ambitious driven young men going to 0.99
01:30:00.720 detroit going to a neighborhood picked clean by feral niggers into all the houses they're stripped 0.99
01:30:06.680 of copper burned down crack houses revitalize that neighborhood no one's living there is that 0.99
01:30:12.000 a land grab or is it just make revitalizing some fucking space they would call that gentrification 0.86
01:30:17.540 yeah it's a land grab right up to the point where it's gentrification it's a land grab when they 0.93
01:30:21.740 don't want you there and then when they want to you to give them the cool stuff back it's
01:30:25.380 gentrification here we go the snug and secluded village of rutenberg a 90 minute drive north of
01:30:32.080 berlin and the state of bradenberg has become one of the largest targets of the krd's attempts to
01:30:37.900 establish an autonomous community or what its leader the self-styled king peter fitzak i thought
01:30:44.060 i said physique for a second there has labored uh germain waldorf a common good village that
01:30:50.200 he's starting a common good village he's starting a mutual aid space for people yeah and it's like
01:30:56.880 the the ngos are very concerned with that um so it's a big long article basically detailing
01:31:03.160 the reason i bring this up it's detailing people who are actually doing what we talk about
01:31:07.860 over in germany in a place that might be as hard to do as in canada you know it's probably very
01:31:13.500 very yeah it's probably much much harder for them way harder to do that in germany but they're doing
01:31:17.360 it and i just want to call attention to that for people to look into this um and see if the
01:31:23.460 parallel society thing can work in a state like germany i think it can but it would actually be
01:31:27.900 easier to do in north america um you know ideologically or whatever um there's also a
01:31:33.840 follow-up article and i think it's related once again from the uh guardian headline politicians
01:31:41.680 from germany's afd met extremist group to discuss deportation master plan martin selner member of
01:31:49.600 the identitarian movement reportedly spoke of re-migration ideas so basically i'm going to
01:31:55.560 read the first little bit here politicians from germany's far-right alternative for deutschland
01:32:01.020 party, the AFD, including a personal aide to leader Alice Weidel, met the head of right-wing
01:32:07.120 extremist identitarian movement and neo-Nazi activists to discuss a master plan for mass
01:32:12.680 deportations in the events of the party coming to power. It has been reported.
01:32:17.800 Well, the story comes from Corrective, which is an independent investigative research platform.
01:32:24.180 It says that in November it sent in journalists to a hotel, the kind of hotel where weddings take place,
01:32:33.960 just eight kilometres from Wannsee, where the Nazis decided some 80 years ago on the final solution,
01:32:38.980 to hear something called the Master Plan, presented by a fellow by the name of Martin Zellner,
01:32:44.780 who is a 35-year-old Austrian nationalist, part of the identitarian movement.
01:32:49.180 And as you were just saying, he was the keynote speaker and he said what Germany needed to do when the AFD comes to power, he was saying, is basically forcibly repatriate, reverse the flow of inward migration of the undesirable Germans.
01:33:04.800 Even if you have a German passport, as well as another one, he was suggesting the people who are not integrated culturally, who are not essentially white or an economic or criminal burden on society, he was saying, according to the Corrective website, should be sent away, possibly to a place in North Africa, some territory.
01:33:23.780 The AFD is polling first place in all five of Germany's eastern states, three of which are holding elections later this year.
01:33:30.480 um for now so basically the afd if people haven't been paying attention is climbing the poles they
01:33:36.580 are aligned with our sorts of thing they're anti-migration probably anti-globalism i'm not
01:33:42.060 sure their exact feelings on the european union um but martin selner that's a name that might ring a
01:33:47.640 lot of bells for people he's been around uh he's the guy who married britney pettibone people know
01:33:52.160 that he's just a guy who's been around for quite some time uh got no complaints about him i like
01:33:58.860 everything i've seen from him i haven't heard about him often but i guess he's doing more work
01:34:04.280 over there with that specific movement and i point that out to say like it looks like they're
01:34:09.080 doing a pretty good job i'm just saying like i'm hearing a lot of stuff come out of germany which
01:34:14.320 is the last place you would think this would be happening in so going into 2024 going into
01:34:21.700 you know what what what are we capable of this year i'm seeing a lot of wins basically the plan
01:34:28.900 is re-migration it's deportation but they're not calling it deportation they're calling it
01:34:33.220 re-migration we're migrating you somewhere else yeah which is a word that i would like to adopt
01:34:39.220 moving forward as well um anyway that's just what i wanted to to bring up there i'm seeing some good 1.00
01:34:45.720 things come out of germany uh to deal with these people who can't stop marrying their first cousins 0.97
01:34:51.860 and giving birth to 20 retarded children because they actually don't care about their children yeah 0.91
01:34:58.800 and just a couple of things before we get to the last part here um show related updates show 0.92
01:35:07.060 related news um first of all a new episode of real secret coffee hours is up on the paywall
01:35:13.920 that's on patreon and that's on gumroad you can find links to that on our website bloodsatellite.ca
01:35:19.320 this is episode nine i believe of the show and uh like all the other episodes it's going through
01:35:26.420 a recent article this one was very funny he was reviewing an article written by jordan peterson
01:35:32.520 this would have been published late last year and him decrying the pro-palestinian movement
01:35:38.980 and calling them metamarxists he's introducing a new word now used to be neomarxist now it's
01:35:44.960 metamarxist won't spoil it it's one of the most unhinged articles i think i've ever read
01:35:50.240 very clearly a first draft it's it's the only thing i've read from him where i've really thought
01:35:55.560 that something might be wrong with him like there's typos all up in it it's very it's like
01:36:01.560 it's angry and it's it's he's calling people rats and psychopaths like it's not the thing you'd
01:36:07.220 expect from a sound mind anyway uh if you want access to that video go there we have a couple
01:36:13.160 other ones planned coming out recently too or soon rather um i also wanted to mention on good
01:36:18.520 suffer.com i i don't mention this as much as i should but um good suffer.com we have a book for
01:36:24.720 sale there that's a book that i wrote it's called the colossal corpus of serious gloves it's short
01:36:29.700 stories uh horror and science fiction um if you're interested in that go go there and check it out
01:36:36.820 it's in hardcover and paperback we get those out as fast as we can i've been selling quite a bit
01:36:42.220 more of them lately and i just i don't mention it probably as much as i should but it's a book that
01:36:46.360 i'm very proud of and it would if you're into that sort of thing go check it out there's also a sample
01:36:51.340 chapter on there as well um i would recommend that people listen to the sunflower society stream that
01:36:58.840 that we both appeared on this was our new year's look back or an award ceremony myself and judas
01:37:04.940 were on that um hosted by the laughing man we're both great fans of the sunflower society um it's
01:37:11.300 the audio of that's going to be on this episode if you want to catch the video you can find the
01:37:15.260 video the full live stream on their odyssey channel so if you prefer that go check it out
01:37:20.740 it's also reposted on our odyssey channel as well so you can find it there too um i had a great time
01:37:26.080 and uh i think you did as well would that be correct judas yeah yeah it was awesome it was
01:37:30.120 a great stream i'd like to do more of that with him we had a different audience for that uh it
01:37:36.900 gave birth to one of my favorite bits implosion sexual someone can identify as an implosion 0.72
01:37:43.320 sexual to figure out what the fuck that means you're gonna have to listen um last bit of news 0.99
01:37:49.060 um there's been some there's been news lately of substack cracking down on far right substacks 0.89
01:37:57.760 And the one that was brought to my attention was a friend of the show named Zoltanus, who runs the Fascio newsletter, and also he runs a Fascio channel.
01:38:08.280 His whole thing is going into the theory of fascism.
01:38:13.240 But from my perspective, an acceptably autistic perspective, you know, it's not just waving around swastikas.
01:38:21.220 it's an article, for example, like, we're going to discuss a recently uncovered journal entry
01:38:27.580 from Mussolini where he praises Indian communists, you know, stuff like that. Really academic,
01:38:33.720 really deep stuff. But even he's getting swept up in a campaign that's being waged on far-right
01:38:41.260 sub-stacks. Another guy who appeared on the show, Ann Kahn's Reich, similarly, is getting banned.
01:38:46.200 um so i would say pay close attention to that look look him up see if he gets banned go find
01:38:53.100 him if you're a fan of the fashion newsletter um it might still be up fascio.substack.com
01:38:58.300 if not he's going to be popping up somewhere else i think he's got a new youtube launching as well
01:39:03.100 he's also got a new twitter but i do want to bring to people's attention we have been calling
01:39:09.400 this for at least a couple of years now haven't we yes we have now i i don't want to you know
01:39:17.240 make lights or kick anyone when they're down because you know the fact of the matter is that
01:39:21.620 we shouldn't be banned it would be great if we weren't banned it'd be great if it was free speech 0.63
01:39:25.100 and all that shit but we are the most banned people on the internet we know we are uh we hold 0.84
01:39:31.500 no illusions about it that's the reason why blood satellite takes so many efforts to be anti-fragile 0.98
01:39:37.000 We have our own website. We have our video syndicated on multiple different platforms. Any platform that we can control, we will endeavor to control, even though it's not perfect, even though they could come after our, you know, our hosting. That's a bit harder than putting all of your eggs into the basket of the most journalist-friendly platform in existence.
01:39:58.260 this was always bound to happen
01:40:00.960 Substack was never
01:40:02.740 going to be the free speech vanguardist
01:40:04.940 it was always full of the exact types
01:40:07.020 of journalists that you all hate
01:40:08.620 that tried to get all of us fired
01:40:10.780 every single other time
01:40:12.720 that we come up against them
01:40:13.820 absolutely, like I was going to say
01:40:16.320 when this goes down
01:40:18.000 and Tim Pool and Glenn Greenwald go and start
01:40:20.700 their own and say that's horrible that they banned
01:40:22.700 all those poor right wingers, we're going to start our own free speech
01:40:24.780 platform, everybody join us, it's only $4 a month 0.99
01:40:27.000 it's the same shit like you're you i don't know why people keep getting fooled by this 0.98
01:40:31.860 journalists generally even right-wing journalists even like right libertarian journalists are not 0.99
01:40:37.600 on your side they're journalists they're journalists first so um yeah i mean i think
01:40:42.820 the thing we've always been saying was if you don't i forget the i forget the rule it's empire's
01:40:48.740 rule or something like that but like something that isn't explicitly conservative will become
01:40:52.360 liberal over time if you don't own the platform it's going to turn on you it's a it's gonna
01:40:58.740 happen like count on it don't put all your eggs in there because it's it's gonna happen and this
01:41:02.960 here it is so uh all i'm saying is this is gonna happen you're all gonna lose your sub stacks
01:41:08.720 don't do it again just we need to find or create a new platform that is actually us owned by us
01:41:15.700 i think you're talking about josh josh moon and some things there that there might be a way to
01:41:19.940 create something yeah josh moon from the kiwi farms has always been my north star on anything
01:41:26.400 related to this as far as i'm concerned he's leading the charge on this sort of thing about
01:41:31.320 you know free speech on the internet about going up against the juggernauts that are truly behind
01:41:38.000 you know he's going up against cloudflare he's going up against these isbs he's the only one
01:41:42.000 doing it as far as i can see and and actually winning and and posing a threat to them um
01:41:48.940 similarly like just so people don't get it twisted i i'm not anti having a sub stack it just can't be
01:41:56.720 just a sub stack like for example we'd even consider having a sub stack just as another
01:42:01.320 platform to syndicate the episodes on but that's just an appendage you know the idea is that we
01:42:07.260 have our stuff duplicated on so many platforms if we lose one it doesn't matter like we've lost our
01:42:13.060 youtube twice already we're probably going to use it a third time soon we're probably going to use
01:42:17.880 lose odyssey soon but that's why we're also up on rumble that's why we're also up on bit shoot
01:42:21.820 that's why we're also up anywhere we can be that makes sense and the point is that you know be on
01:42:28.220 these platforms to get that audience sure but don't count on it know that you'll probably we'll
01:42:33.520 probably lose odyssey this year odyssey is probably going to go down i that's going to be a real bad
01:42:37.960 one because we have a big following on odyssey um but it's probably going to happen and you need to
01:42:43.360 plan for that you need to expect that this is going to happen um until we find a truly permanent
01:42:49.820 solution i thought library and it shoot not bit shoot but odyssey we're going to be that apparently
01:42:55.100 not so i'm fielding ideas you know but just don't you know i can be upset but i can't be surprised
01:43:03.680 you know we're not surprised by any of this like we we we came into this with our eyes open look 0.95
01:43:09.120 the shit we talk about yep if we're talking about like nazi ufos in antarctica they're probably 0.91
01:43:15.080 going to come for us at some point right of course moving on there's this book i really 0.99
01:43:20.900 wanted to discuss i might not get to discuss it that much but it's a pretty it's one concept
01:43:26.620 and the book was actually pretty short but we had a lot of people we had a kel who's a fan of the
01:43:33.140 show uh keluthera he recommended this book it means a lot to him and i enjoyed it quite a bit
01:43:38.240 And I wanted to place it right here after our coverage of Logos Rising by E. Michael Jones, because this is another Christian book.
01:43:47.560 And we're not going to make a huge arc out of this just doing Christian books, but this is one that introduces an idea that a lot of people will be familiar with.
01:43:55.680 And I just thought it makes the most sense to have one after the other.
01:44:00.460 The book is I See Satan Fall Like Lightning by René Girard.
01:44:04.980 It introduces this idea that a lot of people have heard, and I think it's a pretty important idea.
01:44:09.800 And there might be some issues I take with the details of it, but it's a fascinating book.
01:44:17.700 I See Satan Fall Like Lightning, it introduces the idea of the mimetic crisis, and it utilizes the story of Jesus Christ.
01:44:27.280 It tells the story of the Bible. And what's so fascinating about this book is it is characteristically anti-pagan, but it draws more connections and more parallels between Christianity and the pre-Christian world, the pagan world, as some might call it.
01:44:48.220 In the same way Logos Rising did by E. Michael Jones, and that's just not discounting the pagan world entirely as just evil or useless, but giving it its due, stating why he believes that the Christian worldview is superior, but going into the details about how Christianity uniquely addresses the problem of what he calls a mimetic crisis.
01:45:14.860 um and i'm going to just read parts from the book here and because it's pretty self-explanatory but
01:45:22.140 i'm just going to read parts here and i think you'll kind of get what i'm going for because
01:45:25.340 a lot of people probably heard mimetic crisis about you know this sort of animosity that
01:45:31.200 circulates through crowds like a virus this conflict that moves almost spiritually through
01:45:37.760 or like a like a meme would follow between the minds of individuals that's kind of what it means
01:45:42.480 so he says um he starts off pretty strong he says all mythical and biblical dramas including the
01:45:49.400 passion represent the same type of collective violence against a single victim myths see the
01:45:57.700 victim as guilty like oedipus really killed his father and married his mother the bible and the
01:46:03.060 gospels see these same victims as innocent unjustly murdered by deluded lynchers and
01:46:09.760 persecutors. All such victims are what we've now familiarly call scapegoats, meaning innocent
01:46:16.520 targets of senseless collective transference that is mimetic and mechanical. People make scapegoats
01:46:24.960 when there's some fundamental truth that they don't want to acknowledge.
01:46:31.300 So a person or a society can transfer the blame onto them and expel or eliminate them.
01:46:39.760 and imagine that the cause of all of their problems is gone.
01:46:45.720 People do it because it produces a sense of catharsis.
01:46:50.280 What I found interesting about this book is I was reminded of The Accursed Share by George Bataille
01:46:57.520 because it was talking about human sacrifice.
01:47:01.180 And this book is talking about human sacrifice as well, or the idea of a victim.
01:47:06.380 And what is a victim?
01:47:07.100 When we hear about a victim, we think of the modern definition of just the subject of violence.
01:47:12.620 But a victim, in the traditional sense, is a bit more elevated.
01:47:16.880 A victim is almost like a sacrificial offering.
01:47:20.040 A victim was something to be raised up.
01:47:23.080 And in The Accursed Share, he was taking more of a cult Marxist view of it by showing how a human sacrifice was sacrificing the surplus of a society
01:47:36.260 in a productive and positive way
01:47:39.060 so it doesn't become like a cancer that rots.
01:47:41.760 Basically, you need to destroy something valuable publicly,
01:47:45.420 either in the form of human sacrifice
01:47:46.940 or even like as a party, something like that.
01:47:48.800 But it's about productive destruction.
01:47:51.480 And he pointed to other civilizations
01:47:53.860 that said their version of productive destruction
01:47:55.920 was sacrificing something that was very, very important,
01:47:58.520 which was a slave.
01:47:59.780 You know, you don't sacrifice something that's devalued.
01:48:02.840 You sacrifice only that is what is the most valuable. 0.83
01:48:06.260 And so the sacrifice of a slave or of anyone, really, you elevate this individual almost above the king, and then you eventually kill them ritualistically. 0.92
01:48:16.980 But by the time they're killed, maybe they don't even mind dying.
01:48:20.160 Maybe they think they're the most important thing in the world.
01:48:22.900 Now, moving on, he says,
01:48:24.820 the concealed scapegoat hypothesis illuminates not only mythology but blood sacrifices which
01:48:31.700 deliberately reenact the original scapegoating and are done as a precaution against possible
01:48:37.080 relapses into violence so basically he talks about like a memetic crisis is when violence
01:48:45.420 in a community just targets a certain individual as the subject of that scorn and they attack or
01:48:52.600 lynch or kill that individual to sort of end the crisis, almost as a sacrifice, to end the crisis
01:48:58.300 so the community doesn't destroy itself. And he's also saying there that this can be ritualized 0.78
01:49:04.000 going forward. The reason we have ritual sacrifices is because we're ritualizing almost an original
01:49:09.120 meta-crisis that we repeat again and again and again to strengthen the community. And what he
01:49:15.480 says later is that Christianity was supposed to end that system with sort of the final
01:49:22.180 sacrifice or to reveal, in his words, that this scapegoating is the machinations of Satan. But
01:49:30.260 we'll get to that in a second. He starts by describing what mimetic desire is, because it's
01:49:35.540 not clear to some people. And he cites the Bible, he cites the Ten Commandments, the Decalogue.
01:49:41.380 And he specifically talks about the do not covet, you know, your neighbor, right? And he says,
01:49:46.820 The notion that the Decalogue devotes its supreme commandment, the longest one of all, to the prohibition of a marginal desire reserved for a minority is hardly likely.
01:49:58.740 The desire prohibited by the Tenth Commandment must be the desire of all human beings.
01:50:04.080 In other words, desire as such.
01:50:06.920 If this desire is most common of all, what would happen if it was permitted rather than forbidden?
01:50:12.080 There would be perpetual war in the midst of all human groups, subgroups, and families.
01:50:16.040 the door would be wide open to the famous nightmare of Thomas Hobbes,
01:50:19.940 the war of all against all.
01:50:21.800 The commandment that prohibits desiring the goods of one's neighbor
01:50:25.200 attempts to resolve the number one problem of every human community,
01:50:29.540 which is internal violence.
01:50:32.260 His research began in the literary field,
01:50:35.480 people like Shakespeare and Dostoevsky and Proust especially.
01:50:38.840 And he found in these writers a dynamic of human desire
01:50:45.400 What he found was that desire is often triangular and mimetic, a fancy way of saying something
01:50:53.200 really quite simple, that we rarely desire things in a straightforward way.
01:50:57.700 That's good.
01:50:58.700 I want it because of some of its properties.
01:51:00.800 Normally, typically, we desire things in a mimetic way, an imitative way.
01:51:06.720 I want that because you want it.
01:51:09.060 I'm imitating your desire.
01:51:11.180 You're imitating my desire.
01:51:12.860 You see now why I say triangular.
01:51:15.000 myself, the object, and another set up a triangular and mimetic dynamic. If this
01:51:22.520 sounds abstract, it's not. Look at advertising. Most advertising works
01:51:27.340 according to this Girardian principle. He says here, to maintain peace between
01:51:32.500 human beings, it's essential to define prohibitions in light of this extremely
01:51:37.000 significant fact. Our neighbor is the model for our desires. That is what I
01:51:41.820 called the mimetic desire. The object that desire in envious imitation of my neighbor is one he
01:51:47.720 intends to keep to himself, to reserve for his own use. They won't let someone snatch it away
01:51:52.560 without combat. My desire will be thwarted, but in place of accepting this and moving on towards
01:51:58.020 another object, nine times out of ten, my desire will resist this and become even more intense,
01:52:03.860 imitating the desire of its model. Taken individually, human beings are not necessarily
01:52:09.260 given to mimetic rivalries, but by virtue of their great number of individuals, they
01:52:14.980 contain human communities that cannot escape them eventually happening.
01:52:19.160 It's just a numbers game, right?
01:52:21.220 Art holds that human beings cannot escape their mimetic nature, and that romantic attempts
01:52:26.260 to outflank mimetic influences are ultimately scandalous, and we just end up playing the
01:52:31.460 same mimetic games at a higher level.
01:52:33.220 The cure for mimetically produced violence will be a mimetically transmitted desire for
01:52:37.780 peace.
01:52:38.120 The model slash cure will have to be someone who has transcended the lure of scapegoating violence.
01:52:44.100 When the first scandal occurs, it gives birth to others.
01:52:48.300 And the result is metacrisis which spreads without ceasing to become worse and worse.
01:52:53.180 So conflict begets conflict, violence begets violence.
01:52:56.820 You know, it's very easy for the cancer of conflict to spread between families and kinfolk.
01:53:02.360 And all of these internal conflicts can keep maximizing so they reach a fever pitch that threatens the community itself, unless it resolves itself somehow.
01:53:11.440 Either the community destroys itself or finds some other way to resolve it.
01:53:15.740 Now he says, he says, Peter is the most spectacular example of mimetic contagion.
01:53:22.120 Peter from the Bible.
01:53:23.560 Jesus is Peter.
01:53:25.740 To indicate that Peter will deny him, Jesus refers expressly to the role of scandal, memetic conflict in the apostle's life.
01:53:33.600 The Gospels show him to be the puppet of his own memetic desire, incapable of resisting pressures that work upon him from moment to moment.
01:53:41.960 the gospels what they one of the things they do from an anthropological viewpoint is to show you
01:53:50.280 that the crowd spirit is all-powerful that only jesus can conquer it is all-powerful
01:53:59.700 after jesus that it's a real power on earth since it can conquer even peter
01:54:05.380 which is pretty disturbing if you regard it as a prophecy too
01:54:13.740 of what will happen at the last time which it may well be even the two thieves crucified at
01:54:22.800 either side of jesus are no exit no exception to this universal contagion they too imitate the
01:54:28.660 crowd like it they shout insults at jesus who was also crucified for the contagion that divides
01:54:35.120 fragments and decomposes communities is substituted a collective contagion that gathers all those
01:54:41.220 scandalized to act against a single victim who is promoted to the role of the universal scandal
01:54:46.780 just like the crucifixion the slaying of john the baptist is not directly carried out by the crowd
01:54:51.900 but it's collectively inspired little scandals have a tendency to dissolve into larger ones and
01:54:57.880 larger ones in turn go on to contaminate one another until the strongest of these absorb the
01:55:02.360 weaker ones. There is a mimetic competition of scandals, which continues until the moment when
01:55:07.300 the most polarizing scandal remains alone on the stage. This is when the whole community
01:55:12.120 is mobilized against one and the same individual. When Jesus becomes the universal scandal,
01:55:17.860 they are influenced in varying degrees by the universal hostility. These rivalries,
01:55:23.560 as they multiply, create a mimetic crisis, the war of all against all. The resulting violence
01:55:29.700 of all against all would finally annihilate the community if it were not transformed in the end
01:55:35.020 into a war of all against one thanks to which the unity of the community is re-established and so
01:55:41.820 that's kind of what they're trying to capture with a ritual human sacrifice it's always the
01:55:45.480 replenishing of the community in some ritualistic way by electing a victim to stand for that time
01:55:52.280 and time again and then he gets into the role of satan and we don't we don't talk about satan that
01:55:56.920 much when we were talking about logos rising but um satan is central to this book and what he's
01:56:02.040 talking about because in short satan is the essence of mimetic crisis that is what satan
01:56:09.040 is within this model i never really heard it explained like that before there was never
01:56:14.560 in my experience growing up and never never a grounded definition of what satan was
01:56:21.220 But hearing that Satan is like the disease of conflict itself,
01:56:26.140 I thought that was kind of an interesting way of framing it.
01:56:28.280 So he says, like Jesus, Satan seeks to have others imitate him,
01:56:32.000 but not in the same fashion and not in the same reasons.
01:56:35.120 He wants, first of all, to seduce.
01:56:37.160 Rather than warning us of the trap that awaits us, Satan seeks for us to fall into it.
01:56:43.140 He says, the road on which Satan starts us on is broad and easy.
01:56:47.880 it is the super highway of mimetic crisis i just like that line the super highway of mimetic crisis
01:56:54.420 he says the satan expelled is the one who ferments and exasperates medic rivalries
01:57:01.820 to the point of transforming the community into a furnace of scandals in order to prevent the
01:57:07.400 destruction of his kingdom satan makes out his disorder satan makes out of his disorder itself
01:57:13.440 at the highest heat a means of expelling himself to understand why he's the master of all kingdoms
01:57:18.900 of this world and must take jesus at his word disorder expels disorder in other words satan
01:57:24.620 really expels satan so that's an interesting way of describing it the best way i could summarize
01:57:28.720 it's like satan is the cause of mimetic crisis right he is what brings people to the point where
01:57:35.100 the community itself is about to annihilate itself however satan what he really wants is sort of
01:57:42.420 crisis and suffering and conflict forever so he has to bring people right to the edge basically
01:57:48.100 he's edging the community as it were he's bringing them right to the edge and then offering them a
01:57:53.060 way to depressurize they offer he offers a pressure release and allows the suffering to to deflate so
01:57:59.540 he can reinflate it again again and again and forever and so it sounds counterintuitive that
01:58:04.980 satan would cause the problem and provide the solution but it makes sense within that logic um
01:58:12.420 He says, the crucifixion is one of those events in which Satan restores and consolidates his power over human beings.
01:58:19.560 The shift from all against all to all against one permits the prince of this world to forestall the total destruction of his kingdom as he calms the anger of the crowd.
01:58:28.760 Satan then therefore always put enough order back into the world to prevent a total destruction of what he possesses without depriving himself for too long of his favorite pastime, which is to sow disorder, violence, and misfortune among his subjects.
01:58:43.900 It says certain medieval legends and traditional tales contain echoes of the gospel concept of Satan.
01:58:50.560 We see in these a kindly, generous man, always ready to lavish benefits on people for little in return, or so it seems.
01:58:58.760 his only request is that one soul only one be reserved for him sometimes it's the daughter of
01:59:04.860 the king he demands or it cannot be it could really be anyone so even this is what i like
01:59:10.240 where he he calls back to pre-christian fables where you see this satanic figure i'll give you
01:59:15.120 whatever you want just give me one person sacrifice one person to me it doesn't even
01:59:20.040 to be someone you care about but it should be you know and and this this individual takes a
01:59:25.020 different form every time but it's usually in a seductive or non-threatening form and he says
01:59:30.880 right here the devil's quintessential being the source from which he draws his lies is the violent
01:59:36.780 contagion that has no substance to it it's almost like entropy itself in a sense the devil does not
01:59:43.240 have a stable foundation he has no being at all to clothe himself in the semblance of being he must
01:59:49.200 act as a parasite on god's creatures sound familiar he is totally mememic which amounts
01:59:55.240 to saying that nothing saying non-existent as an individual self and he gives an example from the
02:00:02.360 old myths he goes back to oedipus he goes back to dionysus and he finds these old greek myths where
02:00:08.720 kind of the same thing is happening what's interesting is that he says oftentimes in the
02:00:13.220 old mythologies uh the scandalized victim that the victim of the crowd eventually becomes the hero
02:00:18.880 so it's almost like a reaffirmation of the sacrifice itself and what he's saying and maybe
02:00:24.260 some people disagree with this we have a lot of atheist fans we have a lot of pagan fans we have
02:00:29.060 a lot of fans of different religious backgrounds but i the reason i bring this to the show
02:00:32.720 is because i think there's something usable in this for everyone like even if i don't
02:00:39.860 my main problem with the medic crisis is that he seems to think that there should be no such
02:00:45.400 thing as victims in a sense you know but to me living in the real world if i'm living in a
02:00:51.640 community and there is an individual who transgresses against our values let's say it's a
02:00:57.440 pedophile let's say it's it's a murderer of an entire family and the entire village or town
02:01:03.460 rises up against an individual i don't think that's satan working you know and because i
02:01:09.540 Remember, or rather, that's not a mimetic crisis.
02:01:12.720 That is not Satan possessing that crowd to kill that individual and rid themselves of that evil.
02:01:17.580 Because remember, there's this book that we also covered a while ago called On Resistance to Evil by Force by Ivan Ilyin.
02:01:25.400 And that was an Eastern Orthodox text, but it was making the case that Christians, and it was a response to Tolstoy,
02:01:31.480 who is saying that any employment of violence whatsoever is satanic and that you need to be a pacifist. 0.56
02:01:37.960 If you're a Christian, you've got to be a pacifist. 0.92
02:01:39.860 If someone wants to kill you, you've got to let them kill you, 0.98
02:01:42.400 let them roll right over you. 0.88
02:01:43.780 But they were saying that evil spreads like a disease.
02:01:46.280 Evil spreads like a cancer.
02:01:47.900 And if you're on the side of righteousness, on the side of good,
02:01:50.580 you need to stand up against evil,
02:01:52.260 and you need to interrogate it with force and sometimes even violence. 0.97
02:01:56.340 This was a whole treatise in favor of Christians picking up the sword,
02:01:59.800 but I think it applies to anyone. 0.96
02:02:01.260 I think it applies to anyone who says, you know,
02:02:03.180 you know if i if i use violence against this man who uses violence against me i'm just as bad as
02:02:09.540 him no you're not you're absolutely if you're a crowd expelling a murderer from your village like 0.99
02:02:15.720 that's not satanic you know what i mean sometimes a crowd can bully an individual and they fucking 0.77
02:02:22.380 deserve it i think you'd probably agree with me on that yeah absolutely um he says here i'll just
02:02:28.380 go back to the mythology that was my case after reading this book that i there's a lot i like
02:02:33.500 about this but you know he's taking a very christian perspective which is that we must
02:02:39.400 lionize the victim jesus essentially made that we don't need to scapegoat or victimize anymore but i
02:02:45.700 don't think anytime a crowd is focused on an individual it's necessarily just scapegoating
02:02:50.980 that's that's my thing so there has to be something else anyway he says uh right here
02:02:56.740 The protagonist in the old myths is the entire community transformed into a violent mob.
02:03:02.180 This type of violence is found in classical Greece, in the sinister cult of Dionysus.
02:03:08.600 The attackers rush upon the victim.
02:03:10.620 The collective hysteria is such that they literally behave like beasts of prey.
02:03:15.640 In the Oedipus myth, the role of the god Apollo is a good example of double transformation.
02:03:20.540 this is the god believed to send the epidemic and punish those who shelter an abominable criminal 0.64
02:03:27.440 within their walls a son who murders his father and has sex with his mother at first apollo comes 0.98
02:03:32.740 across as no more than a plague demon once oedipus is expelled thebes finds itself cured apollo has 0.76
02:03:39.180 rewarded the obedience of the people of thebes and he puts an end to the blackmail that uh would
02:03:45.100 henceforth without reason since Apollo is the plague himself he only has to go away to put an
02:03:51.140 end to it even if Satan's transcendence is false totally without reality in a religious sense
02:03:56.640 on the worldly plane his works are undeniable and formidable Satan is the absent subject of
02:04:02.880 structures of disorder and order which stems from rivalistic relations among humans now I know
02:04:09.000 there's going to be a lot of pagan guys who are pushing back on basically saying that Apollo is
02:04:14.340 satan but i'm just trying to give the book it's due you can get mad at me in the comments
02:04:19.300 he says here when we examine the great stories of origin and the founding myths
02:04:24.920 we notice that they themselves proclaim the fundamental and founding rule of the single
02:04:29.740 victim in his or her unanimous murder in sumerian mythology cultural institutions emerge from a
02:04:36.780 single victim ea thiamet and kingu it's the same in india the dismemberment of the primordial
02:04:43.980 victim, Purusha, by a mob offering sacrifices, produces the caste system. We find similar myths
02:04:51.180 in Egypt, in China, among the Germanic peoples everywhere. How does Cain go about founding the
02:04:56.780 first culture? The founding murder teaches the murderers a kind of wisdom, a form of prudence
02:05:02.500 that moderates their violence. So he's not even exempting the Bible from this. Cain and Abel is
02:05:07.540 really the biblical like the original murder that founds the civilization and i found that was an
02:05:14.140 interesting idea that so many mythologies begin with some kind of murder but that murder is seen
02:05:20.680 as divine but in the context of christianity he says satan is the first murderer and people might
02:05:28.800 hear that if they don't know what you mean by murder they say oh he's like the first killer
02:05:32.760 it's like no no no like what is a murder being the first murder means like you birth the concept
02:05:38.040 of murder and everything flows from that and that's kind of the argument he makes in here as
02:05:42.680 well which is that all human and this is what i like you know and he would see this as the flaw
02:05:49.440 in our society but i think it's kind of interesting he says that we've never really escaped these
02:05:55.460 cycles we've never really left the pagan world that's something i actually believe i just don't
02:06:01.200 think that's a flaw i actually i see a lot of old folk ways that are still relevant in our society
02:06:07.960 a lot of old pre-christian traditions that we carry with us but he was basically saying that
02:06:12.700 every human institution that we create still emerges from that first murder like nothing we
02:06:18.680 do is really in line with christ or in in line with the sort of victim forgiveness that we should
02:06:25.980 do um i just think that that's probably impossible practically you know because here i am defending
02:06:31.900 mob violence so maybe i'm not cut out for that i guess um and he says here and what separates
02:06:38.960 christianity apart in his mind is that the crucifixion reduces mythology to powerlessness
02:06:44.420 by exposing violent contagion which is so effective in the myths that it prevents communities from
02:06:50.420 ever finding out the truth namely the innocence of their victims and i don't know what i found
02:06:55.240 interesting this book is how he frames this theology in sort of in a modern scientific
02:07:01.260 context where he's talking about contagions he's talking about viruses he talks about things being
02:07:06.080 mimetic which is a very modern idea like how ideas transfer as if they were viruses you know there
02:07:12.500 might be limited language to describe that centuries ago but you're trying to like approach
02:07:19.380 this sort of spiritual problem this problem of like evil propagating with through a scientific
02:07:26.440 lens i thought that was kind of interesting and we talked about this in that book political
02:07:31.420 ponderology about sort of like the spread of evil or the spread you know one could call it evil the
02:07:38.240 other could call it like severe anti-social mentally ill tendencies but they both kind of
02:07:44.220 spread in the same way and they both represent the discombobulation of order they both represent
02:07:49.900 some kind of cancer destroying the system it's all the same thing um and what he's trying to
02:07:56.180 get to the root of is how this cancer can can ritualize itself that it can die and live again
02:08:04.140 and die and live again forever and the the main point he was making is that that's still our world
02:08:09.020 We still live in a world that is defined by death and resurrection, and we still have sacrifices.
02:08:15.440 He even mentions here that, you know, even in our media, even with celebrities, people talk about why do we love seeing celebrities rise and fall?
02:08:25.920 They're just human sacrifices in another sense.
02:08:30.100 You know, and once you look at it like that, like, I think that's what I'd like people to take away.
02:08:35.720 Even if you want to sidestep a lot of the biblical stuff, let's just focus on human sacrifices and the role human sacrifice plays in one way or another in our world and how we still use human sacrifice as a way, not all the time, but sometimes as a way to, you know, to assuage some kind of cancer that's running through the community or the society.
02:09:02.520 You know, there's a lot of people who could look at this and see maybe certain memetic contagions in our society.
02:09:08.260 You know, there's some people who could listen to this and say, oh, that's what wokeness is. 0.78
02:09:11.760 They could say the wokeness is looking at the white male as the ultimate victim, that all of these minority groups and all these special interest groups, all these marginal groups are uniting against to sacrifice to their sort of dysgenic biomass. 0.74
02:09:27.340 That's one way you could look at it. 0.91
02:09:28.880 And you could show that to Tim Poole and he would like it, I'm sure.
02:09:32.520 But like I said, I think there's stuff in here that a lot of people could use.
02:09:39.080 And one of the things I disagree with him is that he ends the book saying that this is why our society is the best society ever, that we actually do treat victims and elevate victims, whereas before we used to persecute them, we no longer sacrifice victims like we used to.
02:09:56.780 And that's why, you know, our modern, arguably secular humanist society is the best. And I'm not sure I agree with that. And I'm not sure, you know, he would tell you in the same breath that, you know, all of our institutions are still kind of modeled after these ancient models, which are founded in pre-Christian ritual sacrifice that's never left us.
02:10:17.980 so you know it's hard to say that we're living in the best society if nothing really has changed
02:10:23.820 we've just kind of tweaked the sacrifice model um so and i know that was probably a lot for people
02:10:30.480 and you know we usually don't get into a lot of this biblical stuff but renee gerard is a very
02:10:35.100 well-respected thinker and um i think the the concept of a meta crisis um and sort of a built-in
02:10:44.180 pressure release to replicate that as a ritual forever there's something there there's something
02:10:51.400 i find fascinating about that what do you think yeah that's interesting i like as as you said
02:10:56.540 kind of looking at looking at it from a phenomenological standpoint and just explaining
02:11:03.100 all of the moving parts without undermining the spiritual or like religious meaning of it it's
02:11:12.500 it's kind of i didn't read the book but it seems like it's kind of an interesting thing to do
02:11:16.020 i'd like i kind of like to read it myself and see like how how he pulls it off whether it's
02:11:20.180 convincing or not but it's it's interesting that's a neat concept it's hard to grasp i've definitely
02:11:24.980 i lost you at a few parts there but it seems neat yeah there's some quotes that i pulled that
02:11:30.340 might sound like a lot or he's he's referring to earlier biblical passages so i i kind of grabbed
02:11:37.300 the quotes i thought were most important so if some of the stuff went over people's heads it's
02:11:41.380 It's not your fault.
02:11:44.120 But like I said, I'll just end it there.
02:11:46.140 We'll probably bring this up in the future.
02:11:47.700 And if you hear memetic crisis, now you know what it means.
02:11:50.500 Now you know.
02:11:51.580 All right, we got to get going now.
02:11:53.160 This has been a great episode.
02:11:55.120 Thank you.
02:11:55.680 If this is your first episode of Blood Satellite,
02:11:58.960 you covered a lot of ground on this one.
02:12:01.680 I hope you enjoyed it.
02:12:03.900 Cheers, man.
02:12:04.540 Good night.
02:12:04.740 I'll talk to you later.
02:12:07.720 Hey, baby, I hear the blues.
02:12:09.280 to call in top salad and scrambled eggs and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you
02:12:19.240 dimes is too loud i'll turn him down a bit here um is right now don't he's good he's here's what
02:12:27.340 you do it's a slippery slope this ends up with me muted i know how this goes i know i know how
02:12:32.700 this actually always happens to me dimes you might actually be on your laptop mic again 0.79
02:12:36.860 okay wait wait because it is fucking happened is the year of technical issues is my gain 0.97
02:12:45.880 fucked up again is that a little bit better so far well because i had to turn away for a second 0.96
02:12:50.680 there okay how about now i'm i'm far away from it how do i say all right it sounds better it's 0.98
02:12:56.620 just quiet so if we dial you back up it's probably not going to cap now you're louder
02:13:01.040 i'm down but you're up is the problem because i'm licking the mic oh my gosh all right he gets
02:13:08.720 a new mic he's immediately starts crowding it just to get a rise out of me mike he bought from 0.60
02:13:12.660 a pakistani in like toronto there's like all these like women listening now like get to the 0.93
02:13:18.840 fucking awards i want to know what here's the awards i'm here for the awards and jacuzzi is 0.96
02:13:24.140 not here to accept the award but uh this is our man guy he's on thin ice with me right now 0.98
02:13:30.460 look what he's saying use this in here armand is the french name we could just give him the award
02:13:34.380 yeah he's a french man he can take it he can take the award i should accuse him with it um
02:13:40.100 anyway jacuz very good substack um he had man i i forget it now that we're obviously on air but he
02:13:48.060 had one really good one uh which was about trying to basically um return figure out how to get the
02:13:54.360 get leftists to um accidentally work against themselves which i thought was really good
02:14:00.080 um and uh he has a few he has quite a few of them and then um
02:14:04.460 so he he's anyway jacuz highly recommend again the only issue is he the one problem with substack
02:14:12.700 i find this is my this is my critique of substack um is the amount of stuff being put behind paywalls
02:14:19.500 at this point is kind of ridiculous where it's like no one can afford to subscribe to 18 different
02:14:26.000 sub stacks let's be realistic now here's where my solution it comes in we start a magazine and
02:14:33.080 i've already done that but um that's what these people should be doing you know because there's
02:14:38.020 no way like jacuz on its own i think was asking for almost 100 canadian dollars a year which i'm
02:14:44.960 sorry no sub stack is worth 100 canadian dollars a year unless they were like actually making me
02:14:50.100 money from the knowledge i was gaining from that but they're not like they're not a they're not a
02:14:54.420 stock trading tips thing or whatever yeah i was gonna say like in finance you would pay that for
02:14:59.400 somebody that's actually going to be doing analysis but i mean for no matter how good
02:15:03.440 your polemic is it's not a hundred dollars good no no unfortunately like yeah i just i didn't i
02:15:09.160 that's my one critique of sub stack as a platform is that what the sub stack writers should be doing
02:15:15.540 is um but there's that too armin most people do not have very important things to say but
02:15:21.420 for those who have things to say and
02:15:23.800 are looking to make money off of it, I
02:15:25.820 suspect that the future for them is to
02:15:27.840 start working together and creating
02:15:29.560 magazines.
02:15:33.400 And that's what we've already done with our magazine,
02:15:35.760 of course, though it has been a
02:15:37.840 bit delayed for the third
02:15:39.660 installment.
02:15:41.780 But since we do it for free and we do it for
02:15:43.780 fun, I don't expect
02:15:45.740 too much harassment
02:15:47.680 except for from our mind.
02:15:48.660 yeah well you made a good point there juice which is that i think more people and you you were as
02:15:55.780 well laughing man about more people are asking now like what's in it for me why am i paying for
02:16:01.500 content um because everyone still has an idea of like i'm going to start a network i'm going to
02:16:05.300 start a magazine but more than ever before people like why what am i getting from this content
02:16:11.280 because like the heyday of blogs which i'm old enough to remember that i remember when it was
02:16:16.740 a novel idea that someone would have a publication online with with a lot of followers that's gone
02:16:23.020 like it's not cool to just make content it needs to actually accomplish something and so i think
02:16:30.400 there's more people trying to ask or the ones that are competent are asking themselves like hey what
02:16:35.880 am what am i making this content what do people get out of it it can't just be more analysis the
02:16:41.920 same tired analysis you know i think you're asking the right questions with this stuff as well
02:16:46.380 i was gonna say me and fancy were joking the other day it's like oh we started another movie
02:16:51.280 podcast to critique movies on the right wing it's like yeah we don't need that anymore i'm sorry we
02:16:56.300 have like eight million culture dads and culture dad knockoffs at this point you know um and it's
02:17:02.460 not to say that like critiquing movies is a bad thing but it's like this is kind of we've we've
02:17:07.920 hit the limit of we've hit the cul-de-sac as it were of amount of content we can create regarding
02:17:14.360 that specific thing yeah yeah and also i try and keep in mind what age uh what demographic it's
02:17:21.660 aimed at because i remember in my teens and 20s it was very exciting to get into something it was
02:17:27.380 exciting to get into a type of media i'm older now i'm old as shit so i don't get excited about
02:17:33.420 hearing reviews or hearing the goings-on about a certain industry so it's interesting to think
02:17:38.600 like okay is this content geared towards people who've been around the block a couple times
02:17:43.000 people who aren't just excited about this new political thing it's people who are like okay i
02:17:47.700 i can hear the clock ticking now like what am i reading especially when you got kids especially
02:17:52.780 when you got a job you know i can watch maybe a couple movies you know i can't just spend my time
02:17:58.720 hoovering up content like i did in my teens yeah that's a really good point and yeah it's an
02:18:06.060 oversaturated market it's the same thing as like when i was a teenager angry video game nerd was
02:18:11.220 like the big thing on youtube and that was exciting because it was the first time somebody
02:18:14.380 had made like not like professional in fact because it wasn't professional level it was more
02:18:20.980 charming um content regarding video games and it's like okay cool i like video games and i like this
02:18:26.280 new medium and it's really good but now it's like a dude making videos about video games and being
02:18:31.620 angry became a meme and then it went away and now but we just you know it's it's a thing that
02:18:36.160 everyone does like i'm gonna start a i'm gonna start a gaming channel is like the inevitable
02:18:40.220 thing of any any youtube essayist now it's you know yeah um it's easy this this reminds me of
02:18:49.020 a conversation we were having i think you might have been there but it's just the other day i was
02:18:53.080 with a good friend of ours sean wyland who we've had on our show and some people might know um he
02:18:59.140 was talking about uh whether marketers are controlling the asylum um culturally and i had
02:19:04.600 some thoughts on that but i was actually pointing to how the evolution of people's awareness of how
02:19:09.260 money flows online and he was calling back to the dot-com boom about you know the the phenomena that
02:19:15.700 was guiding that i'm like well it was it had an old model of how advertising worked because back
02:19:20.500 then the model was what had been through the 20th century you do a cool thing then you sell ad space
02:19:25.960 that's as simple as the equation got and i found that as the generations of internet content went
02:19:32.580 on more and more people generally even the audience understands how money flows online
02:19:39.420 and it doesn't make sense anymore the numbers don't mean what they should be and there's a lot
02:19:44.520 of influencers a lot of creators right now who started noticing that all these all this awareness
02:19:50.860 all these numbers aren't leading to conversions they're not leading to sales they can't tell
02:19:55.140 who's a bot anymore they can't tell what numbers are fake and this is a problem from meta all the
02:20:00.260 way up to google because i deal with this every single day in my career the numbers don't make 0.66
02:20:04.200 any fucking sense but now people are like regular people viewers of content and consumers of content 0.66
02:20:10.040 are asking these questions like wait a minute how does this all make sense like i just want to talk 0.88
02:20:13.860 to people i can't even be sure that's what i'm doing anymore so like when you're making content
02:20:19.500 now it used to be easy it used to used to be able to trust that i do a thing and people see it now
02:20:24.660 you you can't so you need to recalibrate like what the content is and be aware that the real
02:20:30.760 audiences might be smaller and the communities might be smaller but those are the actual real
02:20:35.960 ones if that makes sense well it's like it's all based off of clicks but it's not based off of
02:20:40.480 conversions right um and that just doesn't mean anything people used to think that oh i have eyes
02:20:46.240 on target i have eyes on this thing it's going to sell more well that works for coca-cola corporation
02:20:51.760 that won't work for your small, you know, UI startup business in Silicon Valley, right? Like
02:20:58.120 you need the right eyes on the subject. You need the, um, I had a, my marketing prof, um, basically
02:21:04.600 went over this and they were talking, they were warning about this in like 2019. And they were
02:21:08.640 saying, you know, you, we actually, she was teaching, she's like, you actually need to return
02:21:13.800 to, uh, tradition. You need to return to, um, you know, placards. You need to return to, um,
02:21:20.160 handing people paper you need to return to mailing things to people because the internet is just
02:21:25.200 there's no money there anymore and that was in 2019 she'd already seen the writing on the wall
02:21:30.320 um yeah if i could just speak to that for a second like for people who think that might be
02:21:35.840 too grandiose a claim like you have to understand most agencies know this too most agencies and
02:21:42.560 large organizations know that this is a house of cards it's people just handing money to each
02:21:47.120 other faking the data like i've worked with agencies that knew the numbers that they were
02:21:52.340 giving to their client were fake and they were boosted but it's easy to imagine why this happens
02:21:57.100 if you are the leader of an organization like wow i got a thousand people who rely on me there's not
02:22:01.880 a lie i wouldn't tell to keep the paychecks going it's very easy to get a system like this going
02:22:07.140 and keep going for 10 years once you realize well this is kind of the only thing that employs people 0.86
02:22:12.820 anymore yes it's all fugazi but we all work at this fake fucking diamond mine and i don't know 0.77
02:22:18.340 what happens when that collapses but everyone kind of knows um sorry to interrupt there continue
02:22:24.720 no no worries um that's all i really wanted to say about marketing uh and that's a bit of a
02:22:29.700 tangent from jacuz but anyway that's the that's the jacuz uh category done and i think we've we've
02:22:36.000 i accuse you of going on one too many tangents god damn um yeah uh the next one was the best
02:22:45.480 memes of 2023 and we could go into that however um uh give me one second while i pull it up here 0.95
02:22:52.760 and i can actually put these on too i've collected a few i went back through the sunflower society
02:22:57.320 and it took me a little bit of time but um we have some images and oh shit um we're gonna go
02:23:05.980 through it um we're going to the problem is with the slideshow system is you have to like jump 0.91
02:23:12.580 through it um well this was one thing oh shit i don't know how this works um you just scroll
02:23:19.780 through multiple gooning folders yeah um this one here um this was something that i've been 0.90
02:23:27.980 thinking about a lot this year and i just wanted to touch on was um the uh the fact that people
02:23:32.380 are trying to cybernetics
02:23:34.460 themselves through various
02:23:36.700 coping mechanisms
02:23:37.700 if that makes sense
02:23:39.880 so I just want to make sure that
02:23:42.480 it's people are seeing it
02:23:44.280 yeah are people seeing this being posted
02:23:46.340 here it's an excerpt from something I commented
02:23:48.540 on like I think in
02:23:49.580 February or something last year
02:23:52.660 let's see
02:23:54.300 I don't know if you guys can see it as well
02:23:56.260 the fact that
02:23:58.160 yeah it doesn't look like it's up yet
02:24:00.180 I'll wait a second here
02:24:02.180 um being this uh being posted here it's a excerpt from oh it's not being seen oh because i'm dumb
02:24:09.500 that's why okay that gets me every time yeah i don't know okay okay i forgot to do the little
02:24:16.120 slide thing to to actually move it from production to live because i'm i'm a silly billy um yeah so
02:24:24.380 yeah you're gonna hear myself there for a second i should probably mute myself there we go so i
02:24:29.820 can actually see what's happening live um there we go it's showing up um okay so this is what i
02:24:34.000 wanted to talk about a little bit is um as we begin to go into the memes thing i just something
02:24:38.980 i wanted to bring people's uh thought process here which is um how everyone i don't know if
02:24:44.260 you guys noticed this but i'm seeing on youtube um was that there's a lot of youtube and around
02:24:49.600 the internet there's a lot of people and i'm calling it cybernetics um which is systems of
02:24:53.380 control that people are trying to install on themselves to be able to deal with how insane
02:24:57.600 everything is nowadays um and so like you see people everybody's like using obsidian now
02:25:03.180 everybody's journaling everybody's doing all these different things to try and cope with
02:25:08.960 how insane modern society is i just was wondering what you guys had in terms of thoughts about that
02:25:13.720 well you know one thing that i found um and i there's a lot i could say on this but one thing
02:25:18.700 that really sprung to mind was in our scene um this thing called broadly the distant right i'm
02:25:26.200 seen more of an acceptance of turning to meth and like performance enhancing drugs like in a serious
02:25:33.400 way and in a place with like you know what like i remember i saw a post that actually kind of
02:25:39.600 convinced me and it got the wheels turning where it's like you know because everyone talks about
02:25:43.160 their barbarian ancestors and whatnot and they said if you went back 200 years and you told your
02:25:49.000 200 years like 300 years told your ancestors you had this magic elixir that would boost all of your
02:25:54.840 cognitive abilities beyond comprehension. It's like, yeah, why wouldn't you take that all the
02:25:59.540 time? So I think there was this book we also read about neurotechnology and neurotoxins about how
02:26:08.120 even the American government and most of the corporations involved in this understand that
02:26:13.200 neurotechnology and neurotoxins, meaning anything that can chemically impact your cognitive
02:26:19.700 abilities deploying that as weapons against an enemy or to boost your own people what they were
02:26:27.000 saying was we really opened pandora's box a while ago we actually can't control the development of
02:26:32.540 these technologies and it was a bunch of academics and it was a bunch of you know philosophers of
02:26:38.880 technology getting together and saying doing what they always do saying we need a universal code of
02:26:42.560 ethics of course that's not going to happen but that's how worried they are it's like they had
02:26:46.720 a point where it's like you know the last thing that the government was able to develop before
02:26:51.920 the public was the internet they said ever since then development of technology has happened in
02:26:57.200 tandem the public and the private and the example he gave was drone technology he said that you know
02:27:02.640 the government was developing drones around the same time as the private sphere was developing
02:27:06.640 drones it's like and that's the same thing with any technology you see right now so any type of
02:27:11.760 neuro boosting boosting cybernetics it's completely anarchic there's no reins on it whatsoever it's
02:27:17.840 really just an arms race and people are just now starting to get it and uh there's going to be early
02:27:24.860 adopters in that and the one thing that we had talked about um the way to frame this isn't like
02:27:30.340 a microchip to what it would be like would be like the the mentats and dune if anyone remembers that
02:27:37.860 in dune there's no artificial intelligence in that universe right they destroyed it all but what they
02:27:42.580 could do was take humans and boost their cognitive abilities so high that in one specific area they
02:27:49.140 can behave like superior intelligence but just in that one silo that's kind of how they're imagining
02:27:56.820 how these cybernetic things you're not going to have one chip that boosts everything in every
02:28:01.380 direction you'll have just one chip and they'll use you like a computer and you can just have
02:28:06.820 very hyper-focused in one sort of domain so it'll be less cyberpunk and way more bureaucratic
02:28:13.340 no that's that's true i think you're i think you're right um it it makes a lot of sense uh
02:28:23.040 with especially with well actually i would say it's going to be difficult in the sense that with
02:28:27.240 ai i thought we were going to get a lot more better um open source ones but it seems like
02:28:32.300 ChatGPT4 is still the strongest one
02:28:34.420 out there at the moment.
02:28:36.280 And that's just the nature of needing
02:28:38.460 that much hardware
02:28:39.600 sitting in your computer
02:28:41.980 to chug on that.
02:28:44.600 But we'll see what happens.
02:28:45.840 We'll see what happens.
02:28:49.040 I'm just looking at the
02:28:50.440 slideshow right here.
02:28:53.440 Literally me.
02:28:54.840 Literally me.
02:28:56.080 A niche micro-celebrity. 0.99
02:28:57.560 Oh, why doesn't he pick the fucking 0.99
02:29:00.220 homely-looking woman behind him? 0.98
02:29:02.300 well obviously because he's a niche micro celebrity it's not really that uh that complicated
02:29:08.460 um yeah going back through the year was interesting endeavor uh i have to say because
02:29:14.060 i was looking through and you're seeing memes and it's kind of like the memes were really funny when
02:29:18.360 they came out and you're like this is not funny because i'm not in the zeitgeist anymore but i
02:29:22.160 think they're useful to look at in terms of um there's some random ones thrown in there but
02:29:26.840 really useful in terms of
02:29:28.860 reminding us of what happened in the year.
02:29:31.140 And I mean, the Wagner 0.57
02:29:32.860 insurrection was one that I totally
02:29:35.040 forgot about. That was hilarious.
02:29:37.580 It was a completely hilarious
02:29:38.800 situation. I remember everyone
02:29:40.940 was like, oh, it's over for Putin. It's
02:29:42.880 over for Russia. 0.96
02:29:45.100 And 0.54
02:29:45.320 my favorite thing about
02:29:49.020 memes is that they're
02:29:50.860 supposed to look worse on purpose.
02:29:53.620 Yeah. Like you actually
02:29:54.780 need to go out of your way to make the black boxes look that bad and that's the aesthetic choice
02:30:01.240 and we made a comment before about you know if you've been around the scene long enough you've
02:30:06.620 watched uh the overton window of memes get more and more schizophrenic over time uh to the point 0.99
02:30:13.560 where like if you just came out of a time machine now and looked at the shit we're posting like you 0.95
02:30:19.120 came out of time machine from 10 years ago like none of this would make any sense no it doesn't 0.90
02:30:22.860 it's so hostile yeah like if you ever like go into the twitter sphere like there's a twitter
02:30:31.500 section called the armor i am amarnati forum or whatever and they are completely insane like you
02:30:39.440 go in there and you're like wow they made a great point and then the next point is just like the
02:30:43.360 most disgusting thing you've ever read in your life and i feel like the being prickly and weird
02:30:49.040 is on purpose to keep out um you know uh grifters you know you try and enter this fear and then 0.51
02:30:56.680 immediately just get blown up because they're like yeah no this is okay this like terrible 0.64
02:31:01.120 thing it's okay you're like well i'm not just remember how the image macros on 4chan started
02:31:07.920 with the foul bachelor frog and it was just a sad frog saying like hey here's what it's like to be
02:31:14.000 kind of a gross guy and everyone said yeah i'm kind of gross i get that now then flash forward
02:31:18.340 to now it's the same frog but like pixelated and it looks like it was like a stamped printout 0.98
02:31:25.520 just say you know tfw you zog the kali yuga and it zogs back what the fuck are you talking about 0.98
02:31:33.940 jesse what what the hell are you talking about exactly it's uh it's nuts um oh man speaking of 0.98
02:31:42.420 terrible people i found this tweet uh i don't know if you remember the submarine explosion in
02:31:47.220 june or july um and his son that's so cool this guy rules he's so he like he's like yeah i don't
02:31:59.440 know i'm still gonna blink 182 like was this confirmed to be the son like we are sure he's
02:32:06.820 a strange stepson or something yeah yeah see this is this really is like i don't know i'm trying to
02:32:13.600 imagine stepping back from this it is hilarious i do want to have like a dude's rock reaction to 0.96
02:32:18.500 this but i'm also like that's so fucking grim that's so fucked up and that we're all like 1.00
02:32:24.260 what the fuck and then he's like talking about fucking pussies at the bottom like 1.00
02:32:27.520 i are we spiritually and psychologically dead i don't know like maybe i'm just 1.00
02:32:31.800 like an old man when i see that but yeah like i feel like um maybe some of us still have a bit of
02:32:38.740 an immune system in our head compared to some people i saw there's this video sorry just to
02:32:47.540 make it real like there was a whole slew of cgi videos that was circulating of that submarine
02:32:53.820 which is pretty morbid like showing you slowed down how his body would have decompressed and
02:33:00.260 exploded but just seeing the first video they had was like here's what i look in real time it just
02:33:05.220 shows the sub floating in darkness and in a split second so it goes boom it's gone yeah like that
02:33:10.900 it's horrifying to me seeing it slowed down made it more made it less real than blink of eye gone
02:33:17.240 just disintegrated vanished yeah man i just i can't get over i mean morgoth had probably the
02:33:24.300 best morgoth had a really good take which is like how like you just said like are we spiritually
02:33:29.640 dead are we like whatever i think civilizationally dead we don't have the energy we don't have the
02:33:33.340 interest or whatever um you know like the the guy who created this the ceo or whatever like didn't
02:33:39.440 even care for his own life and his own safety like is that just what all of them think is that how
02:33:45.880 we're whole society is being run and i i suspect it may may just be the case yeah like the career
02:33:53.220 of the submarine yeah he um what was so funny about that thing was all of the submarine people
02:33:59.100 coming out afterwards saying oh yeah when the news broke we knew he was dead why didn't you say
02:34:03.560 anything because we were all thinking for like five days that he was alive and apparently james 0.83
02:34:08.200 cameron knew right away but kept that fucking information to himself but then also they knew 0.59
02:34:12.400 that the summary would implode and again didn't tell anyone it's just like apparently the the 0.99
02:34:18.020 submersible community are fucking assholes but then also like i guess a whole lot of people just 0.98
02:34:24.180 quit off of his site off of his project because they said that this is a this is a death trap 1.00
02:34:28.320 right like loads of people and then he wound up with extremely incompetent unexperienced crew
02:34:34.380 and builders because nobody who knew anything about submarines would stay employed for longer 0.97
02:34:39.340 than six months on his fucking vanity project so i got a couple of boys he deserved it man 1.00
02:34:45.920 this fucking idiot a couple of thai lady boys welding an n64 controller backwards 1.00
02:34:51.220 submersible community 1.00
02:34:54.420 man i'm on the submersible subreddit at least like 10 times a day i i got it they're trying to
02:35:02.720 get it they're trying to get anyone into the lgbt thing aren't they yeah i mean like
02:35:07.300 they're sending it's like it's like a venn diagram it's like right right wing guys and
02:35:14.240 like the lgbt community sending gays to the bottom of the sea just like an old man putting 0.95
02:35:19.880 his glasses right at the edge 1.00
02:35:21.900 of his nose looking at a piece of paper like 0.86
02:35:23.440 implosion sexual 0.96
02:35:25.520 and then he's like 0.93
02:35:31.880 through that door right there
02:35:33.540 that's the
02:35:34.680 inflation versus implosion door
02:35:37.880 that's the last group
02:35:39.540 the last group that conservatives are allowed
02:35:42.120 to complain about
02:35:43.420 oh yeah that was another one about
02:35:49.780 the submarine American Krogan uh complaining about you should never make fun of white people 1.00
02:35:55.360 which was stupid but I don't want to rag on him too much um another another zeitgeist meme I 0.99
02:36:03.020 wanted to touch on was the um the subway surfers meme um I don't know if there's a lot to go into 0.97
02:36:12.560 that but I had a funny story related to that so I thought I would bring it up which was I was at
02:36:17.100 the gym like a week ago and some kid was on that uh on a machine like a i forget what i don't know
02:36:25.100 what it's called but like one of those machines for your legs um and he was just playing subway 0.77
02:36:30.800 surfers while doing his exercise and i was like oh shit the meme is real yeah well this is a funny
02:36:38.080 thing because i we do uh short clips for blood satellite and we've got some younger guys that 0.99
02:36:44.700 do that and this is their thing they're telling me because i'm too old for this shit like no you
02:36:48.980 gotta have a subway surfer thing you gotta have a very specific type of video game for people to 0.89
02:36:54.360 even pay attention on tiktok and you know again i'm my fingers off that pulse i don't know which
02:37:00.580 of these memes are actually real but like this one really spoke to me because like are you're a
02:37:07.540 younger guy like is that real like when you're out there are you friends do that no i'm not that
02:37:12.640 like i'm 30 ish now so i'm i'm like late millennial i'm zillennial so it's over it's
02:37:19.500 over for me basically i'm gonna die in a year from now according to all canadian laws um but
02:37:26.740 the jonathan bowden subway surfer yeah we gotta put oh apps where jonathan bowden speeches are
02:37:34.220 playing in the background while you're playing subway a subway surfer knockoff if an american
02:37:38.700 krogan's out here taking i don't know 12 years to redo fallout 4 whatever it is but all we need 0.98
02:37:45.320 is like a quick little edit on this shit just put down speeches over apps hell yeah hey do you think 0.89
02:37:51.560 that's related do you think that's related to the cybernetics and obsidian coping thing that like 0.98
02:37:58.080 people can't handle the modern world and like do you think it's that they really are just that
02:38:01.840 distracted or do you think it's like i i can't handle social interaction at the gym i don't want 0.82
02:38:06.160 to make eye contact so i have some like the phone may as well be fucking blank right it's just 0.83
02:38:09.880 colors on a screen you just don't want to talk to women i don't know well you know what like there's 0.92
02:38:14.680 that clip uh one of my favorite shows is i think you should leave uh i know judas you're a fan of 0.97
02:38:19.760 that but there's this one uh segment where it's like uh a t i don't even want to fucking do it 0.93
02:38:25.880 i'm gonna get stuck in the fucking mud puddle trying to reenact a skit i was like this guy 0.95
02:38:30.420 talking about how much he loves his phone he's like i'd love my phone if even if i'm not looking 0.96
02:38:34.780 i'm just looking at it and just that idea that you're always looking at your phone and i saw a
02:38:40.240 clip um this is from of course chinese tiktok or as we know it lives uh live leak um and it was
02:38:49.300 like a chinese kid that was crying and having a tantrum on the floor might have been like two
02:38:54.000 years old he's holding his palm in front of his face and like swiping the air in front of it just
02:39:00.160 yeah he's developed the motor memory so i guess the point is that for millennials and gen x and
02:39:07.480 boomers this is an alien concept but for those who are truly raised on screens it is just an
02:39:13.940 appendage and if you wanted to get into like marshall mccluhan extensions of man sort of stuff
02:39:19.600 you could but like the screen as just the thing that's always in your hand and it needs to be
02:39:25.320 part of whatever it is you're doing and this is something musicians are complaining about oh
02:39:28.500 everyone's recording the concert on their phones like no you don't understand it's just it's
02:39:32.460 recording whatever you know it's just there for a lot of people spooky another spam text sorry
02:39:42.400 um yeah the it is nuts i mean these the phone is an extension of literally everybody and the
02:39:50.720 youtube shorts thing and the tiktok thing is so pervasive now i was at my grandparents
02:39:55.620 fairly recently and my grandma just randomly took out the her phone and started looking at
02:40:01.500 a youtube short and i was like what what's going on like i don't think it's just young people being
02:40:07.000 hijacked by the by the algorithm then i think my grandmother went out of phone at thanksgiving
02:40:12.660 dinner started a goon sesh uncle jim please stop uh mccloon mentioned and it wasn't me 0.96
02:40:23.720 and it wasn't me fancy i didn't do it this time yeah we're gonna get all kinds of nerdy shit like 0.84
02:40:30.800 these people say oh word cells don't detect you haven't even seen word cells yet we're gonna 0.92
02:40:35.120 word potato in five minutes we're going oral culture up in here we're uh creating identity 0.97
02:40:40.760 through violence up in here nigga hey i tell you what laughing man's girlfriend knows a thing or 0.96
02:40:48.940 about oral culture oh i'm sorry that was uncalled for it was uncalled for for my for my non-existent 0.94
02:40:57.040 girlfriend how dare you um the um next image i wanted to touch upon was uh the return of 2000
02:41:05.180 aesthetics i think that was another thing that occurred in the last year i don't know if you
02:41:10.020 noticed that as well where it was like i think it's called frutiger arrow um i love this yeah
02:41:18.220 what would i i love vintage cgi i love old computer graphics i like stuff from the 90s
02:41:26.400 we because back then um you couldn't really animate anything realistic so it could just go
02:41:30.980 weird and random and just have a fucking like a dog playing a xylophone in space just that's all 0.78
02:41:37.860 you could do so all that existed was like dolphins jumping over planets and shit but then you know i 0.98
02:41:43.540 doing the other day maybe you can relate to this or maybe i'm just fucked up but i was looking at 0.88
02:41:48.520 like the that old windows background of that pristine that hill the yellow agree hill i just 0.76
02:41:55.820 remember thinking like man can you imagine just walking on that i don't know like it just that
02:42:00.640 you know it's a real place okay yeah like someone must have done that like yeah it's like i think
02:42:06.640 it's in spain i think it's in spain can you even imagine touching grass which is crazy have you
02:42:11.440 ever seen grass i just i go outside and i immediately open my phone to subway surfers
02:42:16.780 until i get to my car and then i go in my car and i listen to blood satellite and then as soon as i
02:42:21.780 get out of my car i gotta switch back on subway surfers otherwise if there's no noise in my life
02:42:26.540 i just immediately there yeah there's a there's a sod farm near near my house that i drive by all
02:42:32.560 the time and when you look across at the right time of year it looks like that because they're
02:42:36.080 growing sod and it's like the perfect immaculate rolling hills of fresh green grass and like i 0.92
02:42:42.740 want to just stop the car and get out and run across it but i know i'll get fucking arrested 0.95
02:42:46.060 judas not ducks himself challenge oh come on in southern ontario they don't have sod anywhere 0.97
02:42:53.240 except for exactly beside his house oh the sod hills yes i know where he is oh the sod hills
02:42:59.000 juice wants to go touch grass oh you mean that stuff that guys have walked all over
02:43:06.080 uh you want to touch a bunch of grass like guys
02:43:20.420 move on i'm gonna spend too long laughing at this what are we talking about
02:43:25.400 all right the next the next image i i these are like very random and like i've told you before
02:43:31.580 dimes and others uh who have i've spoken with um sunflower society is entirely just my stream
02:43:37.300 of consciousness and i just in the same manner chose these images to discuss but i like this
02:43:43.420 this tweet from last year um or from actually two years ago now um literally two years ago now
02:43:50.000 uh the idea of therapy is that you go to talk to a liberal until you agree with them
02:43:54.060 i i've noticed an increasing amount of people normies included kind of pushing back against
02:44:01.120 the whole therapy culture that has uh shown up in the last few years i don't know if you guys
02:44:07.460 yeah well yeah for sure for sure well i think that's also one of the underlying reasons people
02:44:12.300 like the sopranos because like the sopranos gets a lot of stuff wrong it's not a perfect show
02:44:17.100 but once you return to it it just gets better with time and one of the aspects that kind of
02:44:22.380 gets overlooked is the the relationship between tony and dr melfi of those two worlds hiding in
02:44:28.440 in a non like if i think of breaking bad tried to do it it would be a bit more on the nose it
02:44:33.680 would be a bit more cartoonish but um yeah i think people have correctly ascertained that 0.97
02:44:40.060 the only people who are into therapy are fucking weirdos and no one likes weirdos the people who 0.99
02:44:45.680 talk about therapy all the time are just gross and people don't want to be around not cool people 1.00
02:44:50.980 and people will hear like oh yeah i i unpacked this over years of therapy like this sounds like
02:44:56.040 a scam well it wasn't i saw sorry to cut you off i saw a video of this woman talking about like oh
02:45:03.580 i can't find a man and but i've done 10 years of therapy like why isn't it working like uh she went
02:45:09.140 to what was it she went to she went to like um there's these guys there's these people who like
02:45:14.200 help you find men uh matchmakers right and she went to the matchmaker the matchmaker's like well
02:45:19.140 you're gonna have to lower your standards and you're gonna have to fix this and this and this
02:45:21.700 and like your personality is kind of bad in this way and whatever right and um she's like oh how
02:45:26.080 dare she like say that about me i went to therapy for 10 years uh i think i'm ready and it's like
02:45:31.160 i think because you went to therapy for 10 years you're actually just insane now um you know you
02:45:36.800 can't like they i've noticed this in people who go to therapy for a long time they start to like
02:45:41.140 um and you know tabby stock that book by uh bion you kind of pick it up or they start to
02:45:47.780 become therapy itself everywhere they go they have to you know organize the world in a therapeutic
02:45:55.420 way um yeah it's just a code it doesn't fix anything in your life it just makes you more
02:46:02.280 comfortable with all of the bad things around you and all the bad things inside you without
02:46:06.020 really changing any of them usually it's just like you're you're papering over it yeah exactly
02:46:11.140 well you know like one funny thing is that i think like i said therapy isn't cool anymore 0.98
02:46:16.900 to the point where i would have more respect and admiration for someone for like a bitch who just 0.97
02:46:22.300 said that she went to an old gypsy that reads crystals yeah like if you say that you went to 1.00
02:46:27.060 a therapist i think you're disgusting but i'd rather go to a fortune teller it would work just
02:46:31.400 as much um but a couple of references for people who are interested in this that we covered on our 0.83
02:46:36.700 show one you know i don't like to reference this one too much because i hate the guy but it was
02:46:41.120 Mikel Foucault, Madness and Civilization. But then there's also The Therapeutic State by Thomas
02:46:47.460 Sass. Both kind of make the same argument, especially Foucault at the end, which is that
02:46:53.300 it's about the development of prisons and how we treat insane people in societies and how that's
02:46:57.340 evolved over time. And the idea that the modern prison of mental illness is sort of, he described
02:47:04.480 it as a never-ending dialogue with like the therapist like you're like you that's the prison
02:47:12.440 the prison is you're always like unpacking yourself and they're always confirming that
02:47:16.520 you're saying and if you you know end up in that zone like you kind of have to interface with the
02:47:21.700 therapist forever that's kind of like what Tony Soprano did too like certain people it's like
02:47:25.760 that's your prison you have this person that is like making sure you think the right things and
02:47:30.540 it wears you down of course it wears you down it's like being with a nagging wife after 10 years
02:47:35.060 you're nothing what was it was it in that book i've read it before i'm sure many people have
02:47:39.380 talked about it it might even been um in amusing ourselves to death but he talked somebody's talked
02:47:43.540 about how basically therapy is a replacement for the confessional culture of christianity so like
02:47:50.280 you know i know in catholicism you have you you would go and you'd uh confess to your priest and
02:47:55.280 in Protestantism, you confess to your brothers more so than to your priest. You know, but there
02:48:01.040 is a tradition of that. You would, you know, work together to improve each other. And, you know,
02:48:06.720 the therapist isn't as interested in solving your problems or helping you overcome sin
02:48:12.700 because they don't see it as sin. They see it as a mental illness or what have you. You know,
02:48:17.660 this is an addiction instead of a sin, or this is whatever instead of sin. And, you know, those who
02:48:22.300 are against the christian whatever they can complain in the comment section but i was going
02:48:27.280 to say is the benefits is that in that situation your priest or your um your brothers are going to
02:48:35.500 say you need to do this this and this and fix your life and we're not gonna listen to you for
02:48:41.740 10 years doing this because i don't know about you but if i complain to my friend for three months
02:48:47.760 about a thing that i'm doing that's wrong they're gonna say hey have you ever tried getting your 0.99
02:48:52.080 butt out of your ass and just getting to the gym or just stopping that yeah well here's the 0.98
02:48:57.220 interesting point then thomas zaz make this uh point in the therapeutic state where he says that 1.00
02:49:02.080 um there's really only a few physicians of note who kind of pioneered what he calls the therapeutic
02:49:08.440 state or the like the psychiatric revolution in america one of them i believe his name was dr
02:49:13.820 menninger uh he's one of the main guys but his position you could find like old interviews with
02:49:18.900 these guys but there is no such thing as a mentally healthy person everyone's insane everyone's mentally
02:49:26.780 unwell it's just to what degree so you are living in a paradigm where there is no concept of health
02:49:34.080 you can never be cured you're always mentally ill and you just keep hammering at that for that's
02:49:39.480 what they believe so it's not like you know with fitness you have someone's obese or they can be
02:49:44.120 fit they have no they almost cannot allow themselves to have an ideal sort of mind because
02:49:50.500 i would introduce all kinds of fascist problems according to them right so it's just everyone's 0.99
02:49:55.920 sick forever except the people who are allowed to diagnose them which is why the craziest bitches 0.99
02:50:01.180 you've ever met all take psychology true true true i mean if you yeah um like this john with 1.00
02:50:09.740 throat tweet always remember that zog opposes cope and that really like people people do cope 0.59
02:50:15.020 people find ways of coping because the reality is crazy and weird and whatever and that take 0.97
02:50:19.980 manifests in many ways and you're right like nobody nobody's 100 nobody in the world is 100
02:50:24.820 everyone has their thing and and you know to take it back again i'm i'm just being christian posting
02:50:30.800 here but like any christian would tell you all humans are sinful and so therefore make mistakes
02:50:36.260 and therefore do the wrong thing um yeah so you know to take it out of the secular context like
02:50:42.640 it's already been figured out 2 000 years ago or longer depending on how you view view things
02:50:49.060 well also like you know there's a lot of old folksy wisdom you could rely on my policy is
02:50:55.240 it's not a problem till it's a problem because i don't drink i don't drink uh at all anymore
02:51:00.000 i haven't for a few years and some people will approach me um if because they know i don't drink
02:51:04.860 and i had a problem drinking and so they'll come to me he's like do i have a problem like it's not
02:51:09.040 a problem it's a problem they're like oh i've been drunk for three days i'm like is it a long weekend
02:51:13.180 people are allowed to drink for three days people are allowed to drink for a long time in the past
02:51:18.420 yeah for a long wedding like but if you think it's a problem if you're getting blackout drunk
02:51:25.040 for four weekdays in a row and you're fucking things up well then it's a problem but if it's
02:51:29.600 you know some people get to and yet that requires you have like a conceptualization of yourself like 0.68
02:51:36.840 who am i what i what do i what do i want to accomplish in life what are my self-interests
02:51:41.700 and what is standing in my way a lot of people can't do that they just look for red flags because
02:51:45.980 they're always psychoanalyzing themselves when they probably shouldn't they should be a bit
02:51:50.560 of the therapeutic state right like everybody's always self-analyzing always um to an extent that
02:51:57.920 would make the puritans blush right like maybe catch myself too i catch myself saying like oh
02:52:03.420 my god that is insane i'm like why the fuck am i saying that why is everything insane why am i 0.99
02:52:08.120 calling anybody mentally unwell that happens all the fucking time that's crazy that's crazy man 0.99
02:52:14.620 that's crazy why the fuck do we say that period right yeah exactly i mean hyperbole in the modern 0.99
02:52:23.120 era is pretty bad i mean that's insane that's awesome you know like you know what's awesome 0.93
02:52:27.540 seeing like the appalachian mountains what's not awesome is that somebody just got a two
02:52:33.420 cent raise at work but you'll say that you know um it's pretty yeah it's pretty funny
02:52:40.280 it's like linguistic inflation like we used to have all of these really nuanced descriptive words
02:52:45.800 that sound you know old now and most of us don't even know what they mean and like people kept 0.97
02:52:52.020 trying to one-up each other with even more powerful words and now we just say fuck awesome 0.96
02:52:56.820 crazy like that's all we know how to say zoomers are going to be worse like zoomers are making up 0.99
02:53:01.180 their own fucking words they got more to cool now it's goon everything is gooning in the n-word 0.99
02:53:08.980 those are the two words they're gonna have oh gosh oh man i don't even want to touch that right now 0.99
02:53:16.620 but i was thinking it's funny um i was watching a sam hyde clip and somebody made a joke about
02:53:21.440 gooning and he was like that's pretty funny but also like i feel like we're normalizing something
02:53:26.600 that should never be normalized so we're just not going to do that anymore and i was like yeah
02:53:30.760 you might be right sam you might be right no no yeah he is and i'll give you an example of when 0.99
02:53:37.000 we didn't do that was with gay shit was that everyone listening you know they're not into 0.99
02:53:43.620 the gay community but they know what a top is they know what a bottom is they know what a bear is they 1.00
02:53:48.580 know what a twink is we shouldn't know any of this shit we're all too literate in this weird 1.00
02:53:55.160 circus of fetishes that i wish i didn't know but i can't unknow it now we're begging to be siloed 0.99
02:54:01.340 please get us out of here yeah please please do not no more uh 2024 we are killing we're uh we
02:54:08.520 are now donald trump with the with the shirt that says never goon and knocking on your door 0.62
02:54:13.760 and uh 24 normalize lobotomizing you know on uh parts of yourself that you don't like 0.91
02:54:21.540 just just uh warhammer 40k um tech priest cut off parts of your brain and replace them with robotic 1.00
02:54:29.500 bits um yeah just i'm a fuck for any cybernetic shit that removes this fucking gay nonsense from 1.00
02:54:38.220 my brain just i don't want to i don't know this thing existed of death and we're back on cybernetics 1.00
02:54:44.240 here we are and the bible um i gotta i gotta say the fancy super chat here um because it's just a
02:54:51.280 great i call it super chat because it's just a great post uh that's insane in the meme brain
02:54:55.420 yeah that's pretty good that is a super chat that's a super that's a super chat bro um yeah
02:55:01.520 yeah it's just super brah um all right um dimes the stone toss comic you you you uh we're about
02:55:13.300 to say something about that i think i'm just saying i like that you know i was gonna do this
02:55:18.340 for the next some episode in the future but like we gotta check in on scott adams because i remember
02:55:23.720 the last update i got from him this would have been months and months ago he was gonna kill 0.66
02:55:27.960 himself in a few months wasn't he no he's back remember that judas like he he took on racism and 0.51
02:55:33.180 his energy returned scott adams yeah yeah like remember him saying that he was so like deflated
02:55:41.860 from everything like he was talking about killing himself this is kind of a disappointment to me i
02:55:45.760 really wanted him to kill like a really public suicide i was praying for that and we didn't get
02:55:51.380 it so my christmas was ruined yeah he opened this stocking he's like no death certificate
02:55:56.560 the problem with jesus one of jesus's many problems is he has no affection for dilbert
02:56:03.540 just the entire dilbert expanded universe not the comic not the cartoon none of it
02:56:09.320 just because he wouldn't be even a dilbert um mug with the tie or whatever on it it's because i'm
02:56:15.880 impervious to irony poison i can't like things just because they're ironically funny dilbert
02:56:21.860 isn't good it's not good let's see again what another one of his many is that he doesn't take
02:56:29.480 the time to just like dilbert everyone could stop worrying and look at double for what it is
02:56:35.500 it had its peaks it had its valleys but you know just sorry i just remembered i think he
02:56:42.900 made like part of his house to look like dilbert scott adams did dilbert the guy yeah he's living
02:56:50.200 in i think i think so ed like i think i gotta google this one second i gotta fact check myself
02:56:56.880 he's got a king-sized bed that's just shaped like a curled up tie 1.00
02:57:03.580 dude this is why i want him to die i want the dilbert house fuck 1.00
02:57:08.400 okay he he has a um okay how do i how do i screen share if you did die the house would 1.00
02:57:18.200 be up on scuff realtor for sure oh he would yeah yeah let's see dilbert there's no amount i wouldn't
02:57:23.840 pay to just have the opportunity for the swat team to kick down the door of the dilbert house 0.96
02:57:29.920 oh it's real what the fuck okay one second i gotta i gotta figure out how to share this 0.97
02:57:34.320 uh on window capture here we go dilbert dilbert house yeah yeah yeah that's the right one 0.98
02:57:41.260 here we go how do i this is what the oscar should be more like yeah tbh tbh all of these 0.99
02:57:50.660 millionaires sitting in a crowded amphitheater listening to two assholes make racist jokes 1.00
02:57:55.740 yes there we go see he's gonna kill himself in the dilbert house look at this 1.00
02:58:01.900 he's in the he's got it like a tower with dilbert eyes that's so fucking funny 0.99
02:58:08.640 it's just insanity 0.99
02:58:10.560 what a weird guy
02:58:13.780 just an odd part of the house
02:58:19.620 like you can't sell that house
02:58:21.020 if you sell that house you have to demolish
02:58:23.240 half of it
02:58:24.100 like on scuffed retailer
02:58:25.800 he's just like
02:58:27.940 they say we create our own prisons
02:58:30.980 fancy you should be on here
02:58:33.140 right now with us I can't believe
02:58:34.940 fancy's still
02:58:37.240 in thin ice with me for like
02:58:38.640 sitting in the crowd and sniping.
02:58:41.400 He's putting us on,
02:58:43.280 as McLuhan would say.
02:58:46.600 Yeah, anyway.
02:58:47.740 Did he say that?
02:58:48.520 Or did Lizzo say that?
02:58:50.300 Yeah, Lizzo said,
02:58:51.500 no, Lizzo said,
02:58:52.600 I'm sitting on you,
02:58:53.420 and then the person
02:58:54.800 was sent to the hospital, so.
02:58:57.280 Okay, just so Scott Adams 0.91
02:58:58.600 pulling a Mishima
02:58:59.520 in the dill castle. 1.00
02:59:00.600 slicing his fucking stomach open i'm just imagining he's trying to like 1.00
02:59:11.400 pull some damn fucking like instead of the military it's like the cartoonist alliance 1.00
02:59:16.820 he's like i'm taking over the cartoonist alliance and he's like i have failed 1.00
02:59:21.400 with like a stapler or some shit because he's like obsessed with the like office 0.58
02:59:30.820 well i mean this is leads right into our next award that you had written down the best suicide
02:59:37.220 of 2023 yeah and he didn't he didn't do it so i had to remove the category because let's
02:59:43.620 there wasn't one you know it's uh it's tragic but what can i say you got me about to look up like
02:59:50.080 who killed themselves who killed themselves in 2023 okay that's a little more
02:59:55.300 oh man scott staff turned it around oh yeah it's true it's true all right okay let's see what's
03:00:05.800 the next category we are the best the best song of 2023 let's let's go back away from the memes
03:00:12.240 for for a little bit i think we we went down the rabbit hole but uh oh okay i was sharing that
03:00:17.660 screen but it's okay because it's my my throwaway um okay well now i can oh i just put my social 0.99
03:00:22.900 security number on the internet whoops uh uh idiot alert uh just uh uh hello uh fucking retard 0.99
03:00:32.120 department uh hello um just uh just so the best song of 2023 personally for me was uh just genesis 0.99
03:00:43.060 by uh by grimes remix um and i don't know about you guys it was either that or radiohead
03:00:50.480 everything is fit or happier you know fit or happier true true true um yeah yeah i i'm like
03:00:59.580 you know it'd be great if we just had an old ass radiohead song 30 30 years running radiohead
03:01:05.760 wins again i i'm at it just a place where you know i'm in the google docket right something 0.60
03:01:12.340 by bones i don't know just pick pick a thing by bones it was a boiler by limp biscuit oh actually
03:01:20.860 no my song for 2023 is my own personal hell by bones like unironically that's my favorite song
03:01:27.000 awesome choice good choice judas what was your top song i like uh i like the fuzz cover of
03:01:35.660 21st century schizoid man that's a good that's what i've been listening to that's a good one
03:01:41.200 you're making music though like me just never talk music that often because i watch a lot of
03:01:48.740 music but but like we have very similar musical tastes like is that a real song like that you
03:01:54.000 like yeah yeah yeah fuzz is like uh it's like what do you call it like neo-psychedelic rock
03:01:59.060 from australia like you know like you know like uh king gizzard and the lizard wizard
03:02:03.800 i have heard of it uh zoomer yeah it's like that so i immediately decided i probably didn't want it
03:02:09.440 it's a vibe it's a vibe i drive a lot so oh fair yeah you got one of the most patrician tastes 0.51
03:02:19.940 in music i think like i was always amazed by like your cd collection and shit and that you were like
03:02:25.080 also into metal and that surprised me too because i was just like the weird metal guy
03:02:29.380 oh yeah yeah hell yeah nice uh i also wanted to give a shout out while we were here
03:02:37.060 to uh our friend friend of the channel who makes music uh eschatonic the eternal end
03:02:42.900 on uh telegram he uh makes some decent music there uh electronic and uh yeah it is good stuff
03:02:52.400 no he's really good i'm gonna try and get him on the show in the next uh little while because i'm
03:02:58.440 i'm truly a fan of his stuff oh he's great the big wing yeah i uh i hang out with him sometimes
03:03:04.880 irl and he's always a hoot so highly recommend he's the he's the greatest the best old winkler
03:03:12.800 it's just anything that's not fucking like vaporwave like yeah type of like dark synth stuff 0.75
03:03:21.000 anything that's not that i was saying that um like two years ago now almost that vaporwave 0.76
03:03:27.240 as a vibe is like dead and buried like you can't just do vaporwave forever like that like it's
03:03:35.280 funny because i talked to some guys who've been in the the this thing of ours as thomas seven
03:03:40.260 seven would say for like a long time like 10 years plus now and um they are stuck in the idea of the
03:03:48.340 vaporwave aesthetic which is interesting to me but i think it's because it's when they came in
03:03:52.920 that was in vogue and they're stuck in that mindset and i think there's like still value
03:03:58.560 in the 80s aesthetic but it's definitely waning as uh we move into the 90s uh the people the 90s
03:04:05.540 kids are now taking the reins let's say well you know what and genus i'd love to hear your thoughts
03:04:11.980 as we've discussed this before but um the more i get into learning it more about furniture and
03:04:18.020 architecture the more i get into everything from the 60s and 70s because um and i think you had
03:04:25.440 some thoughts on this we discussed this on the show but i'm like um if you look at how things
03:04:29.680 were designed back then it was like the last era that truly had a functional or organic sort of
03:04:35.260 aesthetic like you saw how they were designed to be lived in you saw more sunken floors you saw
03:04:41.200 more things built into walls like there was a bit more like oh how are people going to use this space
03:04:47.440 instead of just this sort of you know fragmented these these soulless boxes and you saw that in
03:04:53.400 everything you saw that in furniture i know you're a big fan of that old style of furniture i never
03:04:58.460 got that i never understood like i knew your visual aesthetic was cool but like i never
03:05:03.280 understood why you loved it so much until you know not long ago but i'm like i don't know there was
03:05:07.560 just something about that era and how they built things yeah the way there's different ways to
03:05:14.060 The way that I describe, one way to describe the post-war period as relates to design is like pre-war, you had limitations on material and limitations on technique.
03:05:26.640 So it was like you have this pantry of food that's quite limited.
03:05:30.320 You have very few ingredients you can cook with.
03:05:33.060 And then post-war, you have this window where everybody's wealthy and you're trying new things from a design perspective.
03:05:39.380 You have plastics now and you have Bakelite and you have plywood and you have aluminum, which is new at that point.
03:05:45.560 You have all kinds of things. Tin is half the price it used to be.
03:05:48.260 You have all of this stuff coming together. You have automation.
03:05:51.520 And this is like Ma comes home for the first time ever with this cornucopia of fruits and vegetables and lays it all out on the table.
03:05:57.760 And by the 1980s, you realize your pantry is too fucking small and nobody's ever put these on the shelf and they don't know how. 0.75
03:06:03.200 Now it's all rotted. There's flies everywhere. And that's essentially where we're at right now. 0.90
03:06:07.200 like you we've had everything we could ever want since the 1970s and what's happened is for
03:06:14.180 whatever reason the worst ideas and the worst processes have risen to the top it's been a race
03:06:19.080 to the bottom you know since then so there's a brief window where it was glorious and new
03:06:24.440 and nobody really knew how this was going to shake out and the way that it shook out was 0.89
03:06:28.840 it's shit and the sad thing is all the great components and the great materials and ideas 0.93
03:06:33.140 like you think what you saw 50 60 70s they're still there but we don't do them because a lot 0.98
03:06:37.780 of them are expensive and convoluted so well just anecdotally let me just say this just out on top
03:06:43.300 that sorry uh i'll try and keep this short uh when my son was born nickels we call him um he's around
03:06:50.580 nine months old now we bought nursery stuff and one of the things we bought was like a new dresser
03:06:55.460 and we got it from this store called uh struck tube which is supposed to be like oh my god bougie
03:07:02.180 people's ikea it's just more expensive than ikea right yeah yeah and and it was still it's not
03:07:07.480 cheap like it cost us a couple few hundred dollars right it's garbage and like six seven months in 0.96
03:07:14.920 it's busted to shit and we're not doing we're not doing fucking tricks on it we're not grinding on 0.99
03:07:21.420 one of the fucking skateboards it's just the the drawer just like collapsed one day and i built it 0.99
03:07:26.860 like building these things is easy but you can tell the wood shit i'm like this wasn't made to 0.99
03:07:31.460 even made to last a few months yeah for the simple thing it was for so i talked to my wife we're like 0.93
03:07:36.640 okay we got to buy a new one and i'm like okay well i guess i guess we go antiquing because i 0.83
03:07:41.680 this was supposed to be the better version of the ikea but i'm like anywhere any fucking dresser i 0.98
03:07:48.120 buy is going to be fucking shit unless i spend eight hundred dollars and or maybe i get lucky 0.99
03:07:55.420 at a flea market or antique store and buy something that fucking an old lady died on 1.00
03:08:01.560 pretty much anyway that was just my thing like nothing is made anyway we can move on that's 0.96
03:08:09.400 just no it's true it's uh it's like i said it's a race to the bottom right like everything that's
03:08:13.760 built now is only built with one thing in mind it's the the the profit motive not that there's
03:08:18.580 anything wrong with profit but for it to be profitable if it's made in china it has to be 0.94
03:08:22.620 extremely cheap it has to be flat packed they don't give a fuck whether it lasts they don't 1.00
03:08:25.920 give a fuck if it has a bad effect on the environment or if there's vocs that are 1.00
03:08:28.880 poisoning your children they don't care right because once you bought it you're you know you've 0.99
03:08:32.580 already spent the money so that's like the number one there's essentially nothing is nothing's good
03:08:37.160 anymore it's the modern the number one issue of modernity is that all externalities are offloaded
03:08:42.820 to somebody else so like all these issues are either pushed down the line to someone else or
03:08:48.200 you're taking on the like if you buy ikea i speak as i look at all my ikea furniture that's falling
03:08:54.460 apart because it's ikea furniture um like they push the externality on you assuming that you're
03:09:00.720 like oh well it's cheap now so i won't have to worry about it till like five years down the line
03:09:04.040 when it's falling apart and then i'll have to buy it again but it was cheap so whatever um or in the 0.70
03:09:08.480 case of like you said in china like we just dump all the labor we jump all the problems on china
03:09:13.440 it you know like if you look at plastic recycling quote unquote it's put into it's like shipped to
03:09:19.640 the philippines and then they dump it in the river and then it goes into the ocean patch
03:09:22.540 you know like all of it's just pushed off to someone else um the dating market whatever whatever
03:09:27.520 whatever you look at everything um it's all just pushing off externalities until later it's like
03:09:33.040 you're trying to run away from time but time always catches you in one way or the other and
03:09:38.720 yeah nobody's trying to murder in my mind yeah that's a good one um yeah like I don't know like
03:09:44.280 there's no we need to return to there's no feet so like I was talking about this in the sauna
03:09:51.680 because that's where you have good conversations with like random people there was like a documentary
03:09:54.740 guy in the sauna that I was talking to and he's like he's like uh he's trying to make a documentary
03:10:00.240 about um talking furniture in the bathhouse again they left men male male issues right like you know
03:10:07.000 this current issues for men and whatever and he was talking about that and um you know i was saying
03:10:12.840 to him like the problem is that like all when you do something now the externality is not necessarily
03:10:20.200 immediate so like if i if i touch fire i'm immediately injured and i will not touch fire
03:10:26.160 again but if i do something stupid for that doesn't immediately impact me and i do that
03:10:31.420 like say for instance i play video games and only video games and i get the government's money 0.98
03:10:36.380 handed to me for 10 years and then i realize oh shit i've ruined my life there's no immediate 0.83
03:10:42.440 feedback loop so you can't learn you just go and go and go until it's a complete mess and your 0.98
03:10:48.420 train is derailed and it's impossible or very difficult to get back on the track whereas you
03:10:54.140 know in the past it's like i i forgot or i didn't you know it's like the ant in the grasshopper or
03:10:59.800 whatever it's like i didn't prepare for winter i die or like yeah i'm going to die there's and
03:11:05.680 and maybe you're saved by your neighbor and then the next year you learn but you don't have that
03:11:09.620 happen here you don't have that happen right and what when it's when it's this kind of positive
03:11:15.000 feedback or yeah when it's a feedback loop that's that's spiraling you down into oblivion and it's
03:11:19.500 over a long enough time frame the insidious thing about it is each level down that you go you
03:11:25.180 normalize it and even if you do realize something's wrong the impetus is then to step back up a level
03:11:30.720 and relax it's like no no you don't understand how far you've gone like we just talked about
03:11:34.240 this recently the whole thing about the nuclear family none of us have we all have broken families
03:11:38.180 we're all trying to get back to the nuclear family the nuclear family was a modern invention it was a 0.74
03:11:41.940 post-war jewish invention the action we should be going back to the corporate family but only now 0.90
03:11:46.260 after decades of this are we even starting to talk about corporate families which was actually 0.90
03:11:50.620 the vast majority of us across all civilizations for all of history had corporate families so
03:11:55.460 again we're only just touching it and again relating it to design like people are saying
03:11:59.640 like we have you look at your furniture now and it's like all chipboard and made of garbage 0.96
03:12:04.240 plastic and shit and it's like if we could only go back to like good solid materials thinking of 0.96
03:12:09.320 like plywood and pine it's like it used to be that you'd have hickory and oak and maple and 0.99
03:12:14.060 good solid locally sourced hardwoods and not even plantation grown hardwoods but 100 year old
03:12:20.640 standing hardwoods that were you know half an acre you know just right there on your lot
03:12:25.440 yeah and like that it's inconceivably different and honestly some of that you can never get back
03:12:31.220 we're going to take a hundred years to get it back it's just you know we're so far gone i mean
03:12:35.300 i'm i'm currently uh work i'm currently uh coming to you live from a desk made in like the 50s and
03:12:41.360 it's really nice and good nice but it just stuck around um and it was found i think on the side of
03:12:46.680 the road because sometimes like i don't need it anymore i got my uh yeah same i'm at i'm at a
03:12:50.920 that's not even that nice it's from like the 80s it's about half maple and it was the same thing
03:12:55.180 it was free somebody was just throwing it out and i'm like i can get this or i can spend 100 bucks
03:12:58.860 for something from ikea this is not a good shape it'll last another 30 years easy so yeah like
03:13:03.740 all right so we got a question from milk trucker here uh are tin roofs based i say yes because i
03:13:11.360 live under one and it's great you live under a tin roof yeah well it's like aluminum or metal
03:13:17.180 of some variety that's cool yeah it works pretty well and um it sounds nice in the winter it's got
03:13:24.840 a it's got a really soothing sound when the rain hits it yeah we had a place with a tin roof patio
03:13:30.600 and you could always hear it because it was right outside the window when it was raining it's nice
03:13:34.260 we are actually meme right now it's like mom can we have nick rochefort we have nick rochefort at
03:13:39.880 home nick rochefort at home it's us we're the nick rochefort it takes three men to create a
03:13:45.500 nick rochfort that's how big he is three canadians equal one american uh bostoner um
03:13:54.940 yeah um so i think the next thing i wanted to go over was uh the game of the year and i know
03:14:02.720 dimes you were speaking before we started that video games you don't get a lot of time to play
03:14:07.360 them um and judas i assume the same i got i got in more this year i have time but you know what
03:14:14.460 about two months ago i made a commitment to myself i was just not gonna i just wasn't gonna play
03:14:19.140 video games anymore because it takes so much of my time and it really i feel it it eats it eats
03:14:24.560 your brain it's like a surrogate activity that's sucking your essence out you know what i mean
03:14:28.860 let me just give people the context of what he's talking about here so a good example what he's
03:14:34.240 talking about is uh judas used to run a factory um he's very skilled the tradesman and he would
03:14:41.640 run his own like manufacturing setup and then he would go home and play factorio
03:14:47.220 or dyson sphere project dude for hours you you play mind-breaking games you play dyson sphere
03:14:54.540 project which will take over your entire life i had a friend go on ei for like or not ei actually
03:15:01.080 sorry he just saved a bunch of money working and then he quit his job and then did nine months of
03:15:05.800 just playing factorial sleeping and playing factorial every day until he ran out of money 0.88
03:15:10.700 and then he went back to and then he went and got a job as a like a roofer so like damn you know now
03:15:17.560 now he doesn't do that anymore he still plays factorio when he can but like he was like i'm
03:15:22.740 just gonna quit my job and uh i'm just i'm just gonna play factorio and i'd go what a life hang
03:15:28.900 out and be like what are you up to he's like bleary eyed like oh i just played factorio for
03:15:33.540 like 16 hours yesterday and then i slept i was like oh okay like i'm like have you considered
03:15:38.960 getting into just that as a job no i don't want to do that oh okay yeah like the games like i used
03:15:47.020 to play a lot more games before uh my my son decided to be get his ass born um but like i i
03:15:55.120 was always more into indie games i was more into more like boomer shooters and things like that
03:16:00.240 so i'm very much like a white guy stereotype but uh like there's games that i wanted to get to but
03:16:06.400 and like the one I was stuck on which I think you might end up talking about now is the fixed
03:16:12.760 version of cyberpunk 2077 that um I got my steam review like this is how much you played this year
03:16:19.560 and it was literally like nothing all year and then October like 50 hours I I that was me going
03:16:27.760 okay I'm gonna play I'm gonna play cyberpunk it's fixed now I'm gonna play it and then just playing
03:16:33.520 that like every hour I wasn't working for like a month and uh yeah that game it now that it's
03:16:40.680 fixed is really good and has a lot of really good um aspects to it um I'm actually working on a on
03:16:47.360 an essay that I wanted to put together but I've you know it's been a little bit of a busy month
03:16:54.000 uh what with Christmas and such but um you know I kind of wanted to just like touch upon I won't
03:17:00.420 talk about it here but there's a lot of things that um that i think cyberpunk like a lot of
03:17:05.880 people say cyberpunk as a genre is kind of like dead now i think this game revived it in a healthy
03:17:11.220 way because a lot of what happened to cyberpunk as a genre is like by the 90s became just like
03:17:16.200 complete gobbledygook nonsense and they had given up on like doing interesting things but the
03:17:21.840 cyberpunk um base black man who makes cyberpunk actually does a really good job of um you know he
03:17:28.500 he i watched an interview of him and he literally every single day wakes up and basically does what
03:17:33.680 we do which is read through all of the news news articles about technology all the news articles
03:17:38.640 about every everything going on in the world and um writing writing stories about that and i thought
03:17:46.640 that was super interesting and that's why i feel like a lot of what he has in that game
03:17:50.920 speak to uh what the future looks like if we're not careful yeah no i agree completely um i'm
03:17:59.640 sorry i was just looking through my steam library here like the one i was playing
03:18:03.120 the most that i think came out that 2023 was sons of the forest yeah you talked about on the
03:18:09.860 podcast didn't you yeah it's like sons of the forest and the turbo overkill um cyberpunk 2077
03:18:17.180 mortal sin which is like this really really cool first person shooter and then um then a bunch of
03:18:22.900 games that uh trepang 2 i was playing that for a while but these are half sword half sword was the
03:18:28.360 name of that one you were talking about half sword okay my game of 2023 is half sword is a pre-alpha
03:18:35.000 demo um for you can play for free right now it's janky as hell i've played uh like 30 hours of that
03:18:44.320 30 hours of this like not even a game but it's just like a physics engine test it's like a hack
03:18:51.140 and slash where you can like do real realistic damage to buys a cut off arms and legs and stuff
03:18:56.980 and oh yeah wound wound them and they're on the ground then you'd like smash their skull open 0.98
03:19:00.980 i play that for like 30 hours and so that's my game of the years that fucking demo 0.95
03:19:06.360 hell yeah nice um armand asks favorite william gibson story i'm gonna say it's gotta be neuromancer 0.76
03:19:13.900 i don't think like i've read his other books i don't think he ever hit the same heights as
03:19:18.880 neuromancer he like hit something with neuromancer and then that was about it i read count zero i
03:19:24.580 read mona lisa overdrive i read idoru idoru sucked to bh um yeah no that's that's my
03:19:33.880 my thought of gibson count zero wasn't like terrible it was just not as good as neuromancer
03:19:39.820 yeah neuromancer was um is like this other book i read i think it's called to the stars my darling
03:19:47.300 it's like an older book but in the sense that i was genuinely surprised at where it ended up
03:19:52.680 where if you go into neuromancer knowing oh it's it's like a the original cyberpunk sort of story
03:19:58.200 you're going to with certain prejudices but by the end of it it's become such a like existentially
03:20:04.680 mind-bending journey like the the scope of the story is way deeper than you would ever think
03:20:11.440 and i don't think that's ever been achieved by altered carbon snow crash any of that 0.96
03:20:17.620 fucking shit i don't really like but it's like it does there's something missing from it and 0.98
03:20:23.380 almost spiritual i would argue yeah neuromancer i gave it to a friend to read and he gave it back 1.00
03:20:29.080 to me and he described it like doing drugs without doing drugs which i thought was a good description
03:20:33.680 of it yeah like back then when you're projecting here's what cyberspace is going to be you lacked
03:20:41.760 maybe like the language of the people who are really raised in it so his idea of like what 0.97
03:20:46.720 traversing cyberspace would look like is just so fucking trippy in a tron sort of way like you 0.64
03:20:53.240 don't we don't have the mind to make something that charismatic like tron anymore it has to be 0.99
03:20:59.460 a bit too real you know yeah that's true or a better example reboot reboot is so weird reboot
03:21:07.220 man um yeah we can move on from games i think so anyway that was cyberpunk 2077 for me
03:21:16.140 and uh short sword for dimes best temperature of 2023 celsius get uh yes thank you yes
03:21:25.400 uh why would you say something so controversial and yet so true yeah yeah uh paul fahrenheit
03:21:33.900 joined the server paul fahrenheit rename yourself paul celsius and then we can talk
03:21:39.240 all right yeah that's great canada like deep back deep in my bones i am just a shitpost and
03:21:47.360 contrarian so i might be coming around on fahrenheit we gotta start calling him saul
03:21:53.440 until he's redeemed himself
03:21:55.180 Saul Fahrenheit
03:21:57.600 must become Paul Celsius
03:21:59.340 that's right
03:22:01.240 you know like
03:22:03.220 I never like I like the
03:22:05.500 old imperial system as 1.00
03:22:07.420 you know a pre
03:22:09.160 bureaucratic callback to people
03:22:11.240 just cobbling together measurements
03:22:13.300 that made sense like measuring things in a foot
03:22:15.400 or as the crow flies 0.88
03:22:17.640 and shit like that I'm like there's a 0.90
03:22:19.080 different sort of utility in that like is 0.99
03:22:21.400 that present in Fahrenheit
03:22:22.900 versus celsius i don't think so the argument i always hear is like oh it's more human like
03:22:27.960 what's more human like it doesn't matter if it feels like 40 in in uh celsius it feels like 40
03:22:35.020 in celsius and if it feels like i think 80 in uh what is that it's like 100 100 whatever in 0.99
03:22:40.660 fahrenheit it feels like 100 in fahrenheit it doesn't like make a difference it's so stupid 0.97
03:22:44.060 it's not like feet yeah i've heard that said and it doesn't make any fucking sense because like to 0.93
03:22:49.280 me as a as a canadian 100 is extremely hot i can feel that it's 100 i know what 30 30 celsius what 0.78
03:22:56.000 does it feel like feels like 30 celsius because i fucking grew up with it like you're just saying 0.99
03:22:59.400 80 fahrenheit feels like 80 because you're an american yeah like that's such a stupid thing 0.97
03:23:03.960 to say yeah i i just i had to i had to i had to say it i know people are gonna get mad but 0.94
03:23:11.120 this is true i mean
03:23:13.360 it cost us nothing to divide the audience like this we gain nothing from this actually we gain
03:23:21.060 everything because now engagement we're putting them on yeah it's engagement all news is good
03:23:26.360 news and all temperature uh systems are good temperature system oh i turned around on that
03:23:33.720 how about that kelvin let's go um next i've written remember chinese spy balloon question
03:23:40.840 mark yes oh yeah okay what do we yeah i think the consensus was that there's spy balloons flying all
03:23:51.140 over the place all the time and then one got caught yeah and then it was like no government
03:23:57.320 wants to make a big deal about it because that introduces the problem that they all kind of need
03:24:02.000 to copy so it was just a thing that i think was allowed to go away because it would have
03:24:07.400 eventually implicated too many people they don't want people talking about how many spy balloons
03:24:12.080 are in the air at all times yeah and as soon as that part of the narrative got into the mainstream
03:24:17.180 the mainstream dropped the whole we're angry at china bit like it was this it was this big
03:24:23.760 to do until people started mentioning wait aren't there like a million of these like at all times
03:24:29.140 and there have been for 30 years and they're like yeah anyways election let's talk about something
03:24:33.860 yeah or ufos ufos wait yeah ufos that was an excellent yeah maybe those are connected i don't
03:24:40.040 know like makes a think yeah we're we're so burned on ufos the average person your aunt
03:24:47.780 at the thanksgiving dinner saying i hear they might be demons yeah like literally everybody's
03:24:54.380 just like ah they're just messing with us it's just a joke you know yeah we got regular people
03:24:59.800 talking about interdimensional psychic vampires like alex jones is johnny carson like there's 0.98
03:25:06.980 regular people talking about the shit yeah it's just like whatever who cares yeah oh oh you mean 1.00
03:25:12.300 aliens yeah sure we'll just go kill them with our ar-15s let's go alex jones is johnny carson 1.00
03:25:17.900 and by the way tucker carlson's already the president so i don't care who they got in there 0.98
03:25:24.580 now he's basically the guy setting yeah tucker carlson coming out and being like i can't talk
03:25:28.340 about it it's just too too scary too dangerous you're like yeah come on yeah right yeah right 0.99
03:25:34.660 tucker go back to go back to talking about m&ms being sexy you weirdo
03:25:40.720 that was a good one though but yeah why is it why tucker carlson's getting dinged for 0.93
03:25:48.920 daring to talk about the stuff we're all thinking why is the m&ms too sexy oh they used to be sexy
03:25:54.400 not allowed to have a beer with any of them that was the one that was the thing that stuck in my 0.99
03:25:58.500 head is like these yeah m&ms are no longer sexy you wouldn't want to have a beer with any of them 0.96
03:26:04.560 like yeah they're chocolate bro what i i fucking love the culture war i hope it never ends i love 0.95
03:26:11.840 these conversations culture war uh speaking oh great uh the next magazine is called uh escaping 0.91
03:26:20.620 the culture war or or is related to that so veterans of the culture war that was the term i
03:26:24.920 used or i'm thinking of changing the name to over the top because we're going out of the uh the
03:26:30.440 trenches and uh into the sunlight but uh i don't know if you want to submit please submit at
03:26:38.020 sunflower society mag at protonmail.me anyway that was my little plug for my own magazine that
03:26:46.000 nice occasionally do um right i think we can skip some of these i'm just gonna i think do we need
03:26:52.780 more it's over i don't think we need more it's over we're back it's 2024 we are back but do we
03:26:58.500 have a we're back moment of 2023 i'm trying to think of one i mean the adl for me oh i actually
03:27:07.520 really enjoyed that yeah and the ld adl was good the bud light thing was pretty good i mean
03:27:13.260 was nuts man like considering how many people were trying to tell me that oh you know corporations
03:27:18.760 don't care if they lose any money i'm like yeah no one wants to lose a billion dollars a billion
03:27:23.680 is still a billion in 2023 i'm sorry and if we look at the moves they're making after that it
03:27:28.940 seemed to matter to them now it's not the be-all end-all but it signaled like it had the same
03:27:34.720 energy of trump in the sense that here's a populist thing that isn't supposed to happen
03:27:41.040 like no one no one believed it was happening as it was happening and it kind of i don't know like
03:27:46.900 it gave you a tangle like it gave you to like maybe like i don't know everyone wants to talk 0.81
03:27:52.080 shit about populism i get it i get it yeah yeah yeah but i'm like it's kind of cool when you pull 0.63
03:27:56.580 off something even if it doesn't change the ship completely a bunch of dudes got together and said 1.00
03:28:03.320 fuck you loud enough that it cost this a bunch of women in a boardroom to cry themselves into 0.99
03:28:09.720 their periods oh yeah that's good enough for me i like that then there's like costco was removing 1.00
03:28:14.600 it from their shelves and you know it's funny i was at the bar yesterday um and they were like
03:28:20.740 oh we have a special deal like um you know cheap thing for a bud light and uh a beer and all my
03:28:27.480 friends were like nah like but they weren't like that because like they weren't culture warriors
03:28:32.480 they were just like nah no this is what you got it that's what it is and this is what i was going
03:28:37.660 to get to which is that it taught people that they need to be bullies and there's a lot of
03:28:41.780 people wanted to pull back on but they're like oh they learned their lesson no kick them until 0.99
03:28:45.740 their bones fly out of the back of their fucking bodies kick it until but like doesn't fucking 1.00
03:28:50.960 exist anymore be mean be pieces of shit and make a fucking example and put their fucking head on a 1.00
03:28:56.520 spike you need people if we want to get into a culture war this is where you start like taking 1.00
03:29:01.340 people in the woods and shooting them in the back of the fucking head yeah like be mean be bullies 1.00
03:29:07.100 and and and it's fun it's fun saying fuck you loud enough that they explode so true all right 1.00
03:29:13.700 i gotta i gotta pee but you can start talking about the next thing if you feel like it which 0.99
03:29:18.500 is uh the best movie of 2023 oh okay he's giving you movie corner and going to take
03:29:24.900 no i i prepared for this i just wanted to say this so you know we cover movies uh quite frequently
03:29:33.120 the honor show less now but um i was struck by the realization that and juice maybe you agree
03:29:40.100 with me on this 2023 might be the worst year for film on record not to say everything was bad
03:29:47.440 even looking around the summer yeah and as i'm going through the list i'm looking at different
03:29:52.080 types of lists there are movies that i like that i'm going to get into but if you go through
03:29:55.700 the go through every type of list go through the blockbusters go through the indie films 0.96
03:30:00.360 go through the kids stuff like kids animation is a fucking trench full of aborted fetuses right now 0.98
03:30:08.360 like everything sucks like okay what are the summer blockbusters and you'll need to like 0.98
03:30:12.620 summer blockbusters to realize that oh we used to have good ones in the past and we had 0.93
03:30:16.680 barbenheimer which was a marketing fiat everyone kind of the fact that everyone just went with
03:30:23.260 the momentum of barbenheimer like yeah we're gonna see this double feature and both of them
03:30:27.500 oppenheimer was a bad film barbie was terrible gardens of the galaxy 3 was one of the bleakest
03:30:37.660 most cynical i'd argue anti-human movies i think i've ever seen come at disney like if you like 0.98
03:30:44.280 guards the galaxy 3 you're wrong you don't you haven't thought about it it was fucking miserable 0.98
03:30:50.060 it's just a year of miserable fucking movies what else did we have uh the worst mission impossible 0.98
03:30:56.020 movie uh like an affront to sensibility it was so bad john wick for an absolute mess like in a 0.99
03:31:05.320 in a paradigm in an era where everything's a sequel these were the worst sequels it was just
03:31:11.180 bad it wasn't enjoyable in any sense you would have loved to see like a even an angry birds movie
03:31:17.680 something that could ironically be enjoyed there's nothing to ironically enjoy
03:31:21.660 uh what do you think about that judas would you agree with that
03:31:26.020 is he even here 1.00
03:31:28.820 oh fuck me what an idiot uh i was gonna say i didn't even notice it until the summer 1.00
03:31:39.160 when i watched guardians of the galaxy wasn't super thrilled and you said that to me and i'm 1.00
03:31:44.100 like you're right it's completely self-referential it's morbid it's it's it's a sick sick film
03:31:51.000 that's marketed to kids
03:31:52.240 and it's all
03:31:54.700 just, like they've reached the peak
03:31:56.860 of self-reference in the Marvel universe 0.99
03:31:58.800 like Marvel, Marvel universe, I think Marvel is fucking 0.91
03:32:00.920 over, all of these, and then like Disney 0.81
03:32:02.780 every single one of their films this
03:32:04.960 year was dead on arrival, because they're so
03:32:06.940 left wing, and boring
03:32:08.440 as a tangent, On Guardians of the Galaxy
03:32:10.920 3 is made by James Gunn
03:32:13.020 who's in charge of DC, and I want to, I don't want to
03:32:15.020 go overboard here, I need to choose
03:32:17.120 my words very carefully when I say 0.99
03:32:19.040 this but i think james gunn should be killed by a person paid by me 0.96
03:32:29.380 that is a non-action threat in minecraft in minecraft 0.92
03:32:35.520 but but yeah like okay so i've got a uh trouble here saying my kids like mario yeah oh yeah
03:32:42.160 mario might be good mario movie i um but i saw puss in boots that was okay it's kids will like
03:32:47.600 anything yeah you're saying like you watched okay what are the three movies you watched this year
03:32:51.300 let's get this on record i watched tetris i watched puss in boots i watched all three of
03:32:59.140 the original born identity movies this year which are still good and i watched um oh what was the
03:33:05.040 movie i watched um it was the anime movie but it was it was okay oh uh susume no tojimaru it's not
03:33:11.980 that good um it was very derivative of his prior works you guys don't care it's anime um i was
03:33:18.580 gonna say like the best film of that list so far might be puss in boots yeah puss in boots easily
03:33:24.120 um oh and i watched guardians of the galaxy 3 which i also thought the same thing coming away 0.50
03:33:28.220 from it was just like this sucks i felt like he was phoning it in a lot and i also felt like you
03:33:32.860 said it was just like dark for point for dark's sake it was it was hostile to its characters and 0.58
03:33:40.280 hostile towards the audience which makes sense you know james gunn that i liked you know on some
03:33:46.340 level and they were just like this is the same problem i had with a lot of their stuff um even
03:33:53.920 infinity what was the last not infinity war the one after infinity war um or was infinity war the
03:33:59.680 last one whatever it doesn't matter end game like end game also had the same problem of them kind of
03:34:04.800 being hostile to the own their characters where it was just like they were just i don't know it
03:34:09.900 just felt dark it felt like purposely evil for evil's sake it didn't feel good yeah yeah if you
03:34:16.840 know james gunn's pedigree coming from trauma films and coming from these really subversive
03:34:22.800 you know underground sorts of things it'd be like handing robert crumb you know the reins of marvel
03:34:27.880 so yeah this is what like if you if you gave him full creative control there's gonna be some weird
03:34:32.600 horniness that happens just like james gunn like he thinks all this is kind of he liked the animal
03:34:37.400 he put animal torture and he put in like a genocide in there and the centerpiece of that
03:34:42.560 film was animal torture yeah yeah it was like weird i'm like oh why why did you why'd you do
03:34:48.360 that um but i having said that i do have a couple of films that i'm sure will divide the listeners
03:34:54.420 um that came out that let me just say there's some films that i hear are good that i didn't see
03:34:59.940 and it's a mark against the entire year that like godzilla minus one seems to be at the top
03:35:07.060 godzilla minus one seems to be like the one everyone says all that might be the best year
03:35:11.000 like any other year and like you said tetris like tetris isn't a good movie i liked the movie
03:35:17.260 blackberry blackberry should be nowhere near a top 10 but it is kind of falling in there because of
03:35:23.540 how shitty everything else was and i like jay baruchel but um what about bowie's afraid
03:35:30.020 that was this year okay i think bo was afraid might be oh yeah you guys watch that i like i
03:35:36.660 said i don't watch movies very much it's not my thing okay you know what okay let me give you i 0.98
03:35:41.500 had a couple i had i'm gonna give three you know what because fuck it this is what the oscars 0.81
03:35:47.980 should be i'll give you three ones one that impacted me one that i think this audience of 0.97
03:35:54.860 the sunflyer society will like the most and then bo was afraid because i think bo was afraid is
03:35:59.540 actually a pretty good movie to inspire discussion so let's put that aside the first one that i
03:36:05.380 really liked and a lot of people are going to call me crazy for this is skinnamarink you know
03:36:11.420 that that that low budget or like when i first saw when i reviewed it i said i don't know if i
03:36:16.900 like it but there's something in there i think about that movie all the time having seen it i
03:36:22.420 there's something about that what it pulled off um what it is you look at it's sort of a
03:36:28.960 i wouldn't even say it's a low budget horror movie but it's like i almost want to say it's
03:36:34.380 non-linear too but it is linear but it's really experimental it's like these two kids it's not
03:36:40.500 found footage or anything like that but it's two kids little toddlers in a house and there's some
03:36:46.620 kind of entity that's possessed the house that's full control of the house and just follows them
03:36:51.420 and you hear them talking and it's almost like a child it like it puts you in the mind of a child
03:36:57.860 in a way that i've never seen a film do before like the way like you're talking in a hush tone
03:37:03.860 and you hear weird echoes and weird noises and there's events that are kind of it's like a dream
03:37:09.480 it's totally like a dream but that's how kids think they think in very temporally interesting
03:37:14.100 ways they don't have the same concept of time as us and it's just like the creepiest movie i've
03:37:18.660 ever seen and there's just stuff that happens in there it's it's not gory there's no jump scares
03:37:24.060 it's very slow it's very plotting a lot of people will give up on it but like the trailer alone
03:37:31.180 really sells me like just the look see look look right there like this is what it looks like
03:37:35.920 and if you know there's like a film grain effect over top that's kind of annoying
03:37:40.240 but like um i don't know it's just i would recommend people watch it and give it a chance
03:37:48.680 and stick with it um i really like it i i just i think about it all the time especially if you're
03:37:54.220 into movies if you're into film and you'll you'll find yourself kind of going back to certain scenes
03:37:59.460 and dissecting it now the second film that uh it probably doesn't even work without the sound but
03:38:07.180 there's like a creepy voice that goes over it because you hear like the entity talk as well
03:38:11.500 anyway uh the second uh film is called uh dream scenario with nicholas cage
03:38:20.620 so look up dream scenario that would have come out i'm pretty sure that's
03:38:23.500 just right under the line in 2023 it got in um nicholas cage plays a very classic nicholas
03:38:30.140 cage character who is by the way i can see your browser i don't know if you've got any 0.81
03:38:34.540 fucking weird shit no this is my uh safe my safe one okay good personal um and and i just finished 0.93
03:38:42.260 it today so it's fresh in my mind um and it was recommended to me by a good friend of ours barry 0.99
03:38:48.280 linden in the chat shout out to barry um it's like this the story is it's this kind of classic
03:38:54.600 nicholas cage character upper middle class schlubby sort of weird guy the guy who would
03:39:00.440 have played an adaptation the guy would have played in like the the weatherman things like
03:39:04.720 that is a character he's good at and it's a situation he's a tenured professor and for some
03:39:09.860 reason he starts appearing in people's dreams just there right um and then because people start
03:39:16.100 recognizing him it's just this weird social phenomena he can't explain it he didn't cause it
03:39:20.220 um but then he's on the news and he's this he's within this story within this movie
03:39:25.620 you would love this movie because it gets into like Jungian concepts of shared consciousness
03:39:31.980 it gets into how dreams function it gets into cancel culture because at first he's just in
03:39:39.060 the dreams just there just present and passive and he's kind of upset at that like why aren't
03:39:43.460 I more active then it starts to turn and he starts attacking people in his dreams like
03:39:47.820 millions of people right and then start hating him so it becomes about he's being blamed for
03:39:53.400 causing trauma that he literally didn't do but like his school's like i guess we got to put you
03:39:58.760 on leave though so it's almost a comment on culture cancel culture in that sense but like
03:40:03.880 below that in the basement of the story like his entire area of study is about like mimetics and
03:40:12.280 it's about uh there's this running theme of he had this idea for a book on ants about ants share
03:40:17.880 like a hive mind so there's this theme of humanity being a hive mind and how he his image spread as a
03:40:25.100 yes and it's always a matter of like it's spread faster because people saw it on the news and they
03:40:31.060 invented it and what's the relationship with that and how it turns on him like he's you know there
03:40:36.780 actually is a moment of the film that's very interesting where it's a colleague it's kind of
03:40:41.460 like a dark comedy as well and shows how his family falls apart and everything but he goes to
03:40:46.760 like a marketing agency uh controlled by michael cera who's great in this and like they're trying
03:40:53.180 to pitch him on like well what if we could get you holding a sprite so you appear in people's
03:40:58.920 dreams holding a sprite like turning this thing into an advertisement right but then as things
03:41:04.280 start to turn they're like well you know do you want to we're going to try to make you into a
03:41:08.460 culture war guy and he's like i don't want to go i don't want to go on joe rogan i don't want to be
03:41:13.080 controversial and it's like we can get you on tucker so i don't want to do that you know but
03:41:17.200 it's like well maybe you should have gone on tucker but it's also the start of this exactly
03:41:21.900 like you were saying it sounds like the dream is the metaphor for being coming viral in the culture
03:41:27.480 war yeah and it's a lot of very heady ideas stacked on top of each other i will say didn't
03:41:35.700 have the best ending there's another movie that came out this year reptile benicio del toro
03:41:40.040 fantastic movie failed on the ending and for that reason i can't even recommend it but
03:41:45.640 like dream scenario there's so many interesting ideas that appeal like to you to what you talk
03:41:51.280 about about memes about almost on a deeper spiritual level and what's interesting i'm
03:41:57.920 hoping i don't uh i'll spoil the ending a bit by the end of it there's a startup that figures out
03:42:04.400 how to transmit people in a dream state into other people's dreams they do commoditize and
03:42:09.980 they do monetize it and then it kind of ends up a bit like i reference this a lot bit like a charlie
03:42:17.460 kaufman movie by the end about how cynical it gets at the end but it ends up with people like
03:42:24.800 actually advertising in other people's dreams through this technology because they do achieve
03:42:30.500 this sort of like shared human consciousness but that immediately gets manipulated anyway
03:42:35.060 i would it's a really good reptile here futurama where they get yeah it's in there
03:42:42.360 yeah and it also it it's kind of um what's uh what's i had an example but it's like because
03:42:49.880 he's not actually a perfect he's actually breaking bad or walter white from breaking bad where it's
03:42:54.200 like is he actually a good person is he actually a bitter petty person and his turn in people's
03:43:00.440 dreams is reflective of his bitterness and his sins rising to the surface so there is some
03:43:05.720 interplay between this projection of himself's in humanity's mind with who he actually is
03:43:12.880 and what i would have loved to see if they actually kind of thought about to the bottom it's
03:43:16.200 like well if he shaves in real life because he has a beard um does the image in people's minds
03:43:21.400 is that shaved as well that would have been interesting so they don't go to yeah
03:43:24.360 I need to go to the washer
03:43:28.960 quickly too
03:43:29.480 I actually have to go
03:43:32.780 I gotta go to sleep fellas
03:43:34.560 I'm sorry this has been fantastic
03:43:36.740 thank you very much
03:43:38.400 Happy New Year
03:43:40.360 you keep talking
03:43:41.940 see you later Judas
03:43:44.200 thanks for joining
03:43:44.960 that was Judas there
03:43:50.600 Armand pointed out
03:43:53.100 that uh as we're talking about dreams the uh there was a man who was put in jail for 28 years
03:43:58.900 due to a woman dreaming that he had raped him um or her i should say uh they them which is
03:44:06.680 absolutely insane um more insane than anything is the fact that a judge would have and a jury
03:44:13.500 would convict a man of a dream um absolutely insane um which just goes to show the issue
03:44:23.000 of how
03:44:24.980 the
03:44:25.400 core system is currently rigged, or
03:44:28.880 has been rigged, in terms of
03:44:30.820 against men, let's say, in a lot of
03:44:34.920 cases.
03:44:38.240 Let's see here.
03:44:41.220 Good night. Get nasty.
03:44:43.900 Yeah, we'll probably wrap
03:44:45.040 up here in a moment. I have
03:44:46.820 a couple more things. While he's gone, I'll
03:44:48.920 talk about anime. Alright, I'm back, by the way.
03:44:51.140 Yeah, go. Anime.
03:44:53.000 i was gonna say best anime of the year is pray ren highly recommend beyond journey's end um
03:45:01.080 it is let me see i guess imdb will work there we are um it's it's a very good anime it's um
03:45:09.260 pretty cool the first um episode is like almost i think almost an hour long and it just goes over
03:45:17.200 the first part which is the journey and then the rest of the show is about after that um because
03:45:22.580 she's an elf she lives longer than everyone else that she went on the journey with to defeat
03:45:26.380 basically Sauron and it's all about her raising up the next generation of heroes and and people
03:45:33.440 and kind of coming to grips with the fact that she's the only one who continues to live while
03:45:38.260 our friends are dying off anyway very good uh it's got 8.9 out of 10 on imdb which are not
03:45:43.700 the only it's not only anime fans i assume that are on imdb unlike on like my anime list where
03:45:50.180 everybody is a a nerd uh a weeb if you will but anyway that's my pick of the year fray run beyond
03:45:56.160 journey's end it's not even finished it's going to continue on uh this week i think in three days
03:46:01.080 uh over the next episode so that's my recommendation for for the anime anime about the elves milk truck
03:46:10.220 i don't know i thought fray run was the anime about the elves do you mean uh goblin slayer
03:46:17.120 because in Goblin Slayer Season 2
03:46:19.680 they have been assisting the elves
03:46:22.020 with
03:46:22.320 a goblin problem
03:46:25.880 let's see
03:46:27.700 is it not sharing my screen anymore
03:46:29.440 what the heck's going on here
03:46:32.240 I thought it was
03:46:33.980 weird
03:46:34.660 there we go
03:46:35.720 oh interesting
03:46:40.920 oh if I minimize it
03:46:44.860 it goes away
03:46:45.680 I'm learning
03:46:46.920 that's frey wren that's my recommendation we'll move on from there um let's see i think we can
03:46:55.200 probably wrap up here in a little bit um if you got to get going dimes i know it's been a little
03:47:00.100 while yeah yeah i i'll get going if you wanted to wrap it up i think we covered all the main stuff
03:47:07.200 i don't want to spend too long on the movie corner anyway yeah um i guess we'll just i guess
03:47:12.440 end with a thought i guess like what was your like 2023 i didn't see as a very
03:47:19.880 hello you know energizing year when we were in it but i do feel cautiously optimistic towards
03:47:27.820 2024 how do you feel about last year and going into 2024 um the yeah i don't know i feel like
03:47:35.740 on a personal level i feel like i personally am set up for 2024 but in terms of
03:47:42.640 the world i think we're heading into a worldwide economic um recession um and this is brought on
03:47:51.040 mostly by just looking at again like because you know i speak japanese i read a lot of japanese
03:47:56.560 media it looks like japan which is the third largest uh economy in the world um is entering
03:48:01.360 into pretty dire straits economically um the united states seems to be starting to buckle 1.00
03:48:07.880 under the weight of all the lazy no good people i mean they had nine million illegal immigrants last 1.00
03:48:13.440 year um and then canada we've had countless people come um i don't know if you saw the news of like 0.98
03:48:22.100 um food banks turning away um international students and stuff who were literally just
03:48:27.820 trying to uh steal um oh i see milk yeah it's freyren i'll write it in the chat
03:48:34.500 yeah anyway my point being is i think um
03:48:39.060 i think that i think that um 2024 is going to be a year of change i think that we're going to see a
03:48:48.620 lot of change i mean we're coming into the american election they're going to have to probably pump a
03:48:53.300 lot of money into this system to keep biden from not being re-elected if that makes sense
03:49:00.400 yeah um the stuff i'm seeing with trump and them kind of making the same mistakes trying to make
03:49:07.100 trump the dark horse candidate that seems like a strange mistake they're making in canada the one
03:49:13.660 thing that's really given me pause was and maybe you can confirm or disconfirm this we seem to be
03:49:20.920 moving ahead with universal basic income yeah right i saw that um like that's that's it we're
03:49:27.400 done like that's the normalizing ago we're gonna give two thousand dollars a month to everyone
03:49:32.180 especially refugees i'm like okay then like we're done then like as a nation that canada just won't
03:49:39.520 exist well i mean i don't know if you saw but canada had the greatest e-migration in years of 0.87
03:49:45.740 of citizens so people are leaving canada in droves if they can afford it which means boomers are
03:49:51.340 taking all their money and leaving um which means all of the young people are going to be left with
03:49:57.180 even greater weight on their back um but yeah and and just to point people to a book where we
03:50:05.480 discussed this and i discussed this with i think it was disgraced propagandist uh recently it was
03:50:10.620 the book Exit Voice and Loyalty by Albert O. Hirschman. There's a lot of good stuff in there,
03:50:16.520 even though it's very acutely focused on firms. There is a social phenomena. Some people know
03:50:24.620 it's the Pareto Principle. It's got a lot of different names. People generally understand that
03:50:29.140 within any human distribution, there's a top percentage, a top percentile, top 20%
03:50:34.540 that do all the work. They're the high skilled, highly educated. They're just leadership material
03:50:39.300 um and a phenomenon that we see in everything from neighborhoods to firms and organizations is
03:50:46.620 these tend to be the first ones to leave and this hollows out any you know like in a school like the
03:50:53.420 most capable the people who know the most the people are paying the most attention they can
03:50:58.540 see a shift and like i'm going to get ahead of this i'm going to get out while the getting's good
03:51:02.620 so they take all their skills and the ones that you're left with are kind of the low performer 0.96
03:51:07.400 curve types the ones who are they're not retards but they're the least likely to enact change 0.99
03:51:15.240 they're the least likely to they're the most likely to just go with the flow and so this is 0.97
03:51:20.320 how you end up with stagnant corporations and so like it's a very this is the thing that
03:51:25.560 conservatives they they got their grasp on it that is true that you could chase away the most
03:51:31.820 productive members of society i'm not trying to go for an ayn randy and objectivist approach here
03:51:36.800 but honestly like if you got like there are people when they hear this they're gonna be like 0.89
03:51:41.500 i'm not subsidizing this fucking dysgenic biomass i'm taking it's not even i don't sorry i was 0.72
03:51:50.700 gonna say i don't think it's even an explicit understanding of that i've had two friends 0.95
03:51:55.300 leave for the states in the past year you know like and it's not even like it's like oh i managed
03:52:02.200 to you know one's like a really high performer like getting paid multiples of hundreds of
03:52:07.460 thousands of dollars and they're just going oh i can go to the states okay i'll go to the states
03:52:12.520 because clearly canada is not great um but they don't know why they haven't like thought it
03:52:17.400 through in the same way we have um the problem is is like every person like that that leaves
03:52:23.740 means there's one less of us around and that means it it i mean like you were saying it's like as
03:52:31.800 that occurs more and more it becomes more and more difficult to pull it back from the brink
03:52:36.960 and you end up crashing with no survivors let me just address something trouble is saying here i
03:52:42.220 understand where he's coming from where he says we already have ubi with welfare basically um the
03:52:46.880 interesting thing about welfare if you've ever been on welfare or know anyone who's been on welfare
03:52:51.260 uh the very thing that people hate about welfare is the thing that kind of keeps it honest it's
03:52:56.840 that there's a lot of stipulations to get on welfare um one of them is you can't be taking
03:53:02.040 drugs that's why there's so many homeless people it's very to get into welfare you have to promise
03:53:06.900 you're going to try and stay clean and most homeless people they can't even do that
03:53:10.340 um but then you have to actively be looking for a job as well and they check in and they
03:53:15.640 you got to be proving that you're at least looking so with ubi it's removing any of those stipulations
03:53:22.260 It's just saying you deserve $2,000 just for whatever.
03:53:26.160 So at least with, I know the welfare system isn't good, but at least there was something,
03:53:30.660 there's some concept that you must be a productive member of society.
03:53:35.620 Even though there's all kinds of loopholes, all kinds of inferior, you know, bureaucratic 1.00
03:53:40.220 bullshit to allow, you know, refugees and whatever it might be, there's, they're at 1.00
03:53:44.800 least pretending that you got to be a fucking citizen. 1.00
03:53:48.260 Now it's just like, no, everyone gets $2,000 and here's the worst thing. 0.99
03:53:51.160 and two thousand dollars is the number i heard that there's going with everyone gets two thousand
03:53:54.560 dollars a month i'd already heard murmurs that they were building in stipulations where people
03:53:59.480 who make a lot of money don't get that anyway so it's just that's yeah well that was the that was
03:54:04.320 when i spoke about this with a friend of the show there on uh he was like well maybe it's balancing
03:54:09.740 it out really because the poor people like like trouble said they're already taking it with
03:54:13.260 welfare and maybe it balances out because then the rich people are also are just getting back
03:54:17.540 their share or whatever and i was like oh that might be a good point but like you said there
03:54:20.980 are stipulations there are things that are keeping it in check and i just don't know like what does
03:54:26.220 that look like what i mean we're already at the point where i actually think canada's literally
03:54:30.480 collapsing in on itself and we're only like a couple years from like just we have to declare
03:54:36.880 bankruptcy everybody go home almost oh can i just call out milk trucker here great comment we're
03:54:43.520 going full fahrenheit shrugged 84 and uh you know in canada they call that fair uh they call it
03:54:49.780 celsius shrugged um celsius shrugged 84 that is a fun fact that was a that was a localization they
03:54:57.800 had to do so otherwise canadians would just be like what does that mean i don't know what that
03:55:01.500 means like 100 is that boiling or what so they had to they had to change like most most people
03:55:06.700 who grew up in the internet know how to speak canadian just by exposure but there's a lot of
03:55:11.280 older generations that don't know they just don't know sweden did uh sweden did try out eubi that's
03:55:16.200 correct me hi um they did and it was basically they found that lazy people remained lazy and
03:55:23.100 the productive people remain productive and it basically made no difference because the the it
03:55:29.580 turns out poor people are poor mostly because they're just actually bad with money yeah and
03:55:37.160 also like you know not to get too wig natty about it but i'm like hey most of these ideologies and
03:55:43.580 political systems work if it's just you know a decent white population like but the problem is 0.98
03:55:50.320 that's all fucking indians and somalis so you know like i'm sure if you tried this in switzerland if 1.00
03:55:57.240 you gave every switz person to fucking what do they pay for the donors whatever you know they 0.99
03:56:03.000 could probably do more with it than the average indian 23 year old would he's just gonna use it 1.00
03:56:09.640 to buy more porn i don't know what they buy yeah who knows what their fucking money yeah they've 0.99
03:56:15.000 not dildos i don't know yeah um yeah no it's it's nuts the ubi thing is just crazy i yeah i i guess 0.99
03:56:22.040 my prediction for 2024 is like it seems like i mean we just saw today joe rogan had a guy on who
03:56:28.840 is like counter signaling a lot of the degrowth stuff counter signaling a lot of the um what's
03:56:38.120 the other word uh the mass migration counteracting like he was he was questioning a lot of things
03:56:43.240 that we've been talking about like this is the thing our talking points and our our concerns
03:56:47.960 are becoming mainstream i was watching boomers like there was uh nature published an article
03:56:52.840 about degrowth and you're watching boomers find out about this and like threaten him on twitter
03:56:57.000 with like murdering him because boomers just do that you know there you'll never find a more fed 0.93
03:57:01.160 posty group of people than boomers and i appreciate that and they're just like what if we just kill 1.00
03:57:05.560 you you know like what if what if you're just the problem and we just get rid of you and then the 0.98
03:57:10.540 problem solved it's like well you know what maybe they're not wrong maybe they're uh maybe they're
03:57:14.620 not right who knows but it was just really funny to watch because this guy's going like oh i'm 1.00
03:57:18.220 getting so much pushback well you know why you're getting pushback because you're stupid this is a 0.99
03:57:21.580 bad idea so just for the folks at home what was his argument in so his argument was basically we 1.00
03:57:28.320 need to reduce the amount of energy in the system so that uh we don't destroy ourselves which is
03:57:33.340 just a nonsensical it's just more of the green stuff but they're literally now uh signaling
03:57:38.140 um that their tribe so to speak intellectually is is like we are degrowth centric i'll see if i can
03:57:46.600 find uh a link uh let me see uh nature i think the degrowth versus growth whatever you want to
03:57:56.040 call that debate that's occurring right now is one of the more interesting debates because it is
03:58:01.720 it hits every fucking pillar it is ideological it is strictly financial it is geopolitical it 0.95
03:58:08.820 is technological but it's also spiritual in a sense like it if if you ask your average person 0.99
03:58:14.920 their opinion on this they're going to have an opinion yeah on like is infinite growth possible
03:58:20.040 we've talked about this on the show yeah from an economic standpoint um with modern monetary theory
03:58:25.020 and other ways you know i take a bit more nuanced approach but like depending how you define growth
03:58:30.680 do you have infinite maybe but it would be so restricted to such certain groups anyway i mean
03:58:38.080 fancy has the data uh we've been discussing this you know we need more power we don't we actually
03:58:43.480 have not been doing much in terms of creating more power for instance in british columbia
03:58:47.300 the last time we built a power dam was in 1980 1980 man that's a long time ago we're not
03:58:54.260 expanding and you've become people have become so intellectually crippled that if you say
03:59:01.000 we should build that there's just a pang in their heads that but that's bad right like we shouldn't
03:59:06.840 want to build that right and they don't know why um and this is why or the nature or whatever it's
03:59:12.400 like yeah okay when we talk about a propagandized individual i always use the term defined by jacques
03:59:19.060 in his book propaganda and that's the one i prefer to edward bernays or a lot of other people's where
03:59:24.200 prop a propagandized individual will prohibit themselves from doing something even if they
03:59:30.620 logically or emotionally want to um and the example would be like that there's no logical reason to
03:59:35.480 believe that you just have a feeling you just that we're not supposed to do that anytime someone
03:59:39.660 says you're not supposed to say that the phrase you're not supposed to say that that's them being
03:59:43.860 propagandized they can't explain why it's just i i just have a feeling we're not supposed to
03:59:47.400 to like this or something uh an example i get was say that yeah you hear it all the time
03:59:52.680 you can see the example i gave was when you're if you're in a catholic church you know i don't
03:59:56.900 know how many catholics are reading but you know if a priest ever says something against 0.99
04:00:01.040 homosexuality even in a catholic church which is supposed to be the main one against that people
04:00:05.900 like there's like a chill that goes through like oh we're not supposed can you say that it's like 0.98
04:00:10.500 this is this is supposed to be part of your fucking this is supposed to be a safe space man 0.90
04:00:15.580 um yeah no it's crazy it sits above all that you know it's crazy it's crazy how how um 0.99
04:00:23.000 propagandized people are you know even even the word black i don't know if you've noticed that
04:00:28.820 people will be like oh like if you're like oh they're a black person or whatever they're like
04:00:33.020 well you can't say that what do you mean we they aren't yeah just they're quite quite down quite 1.00
04:00:37.960 down yeah it's like quite down yeah just yeah oh we can't say that you can't say that um there was
04:00:42.280 a really good sub stack um let me see if i can find it it was like magical words um let me see
04:00:51.740 oh yeah armand is talking uh here the e acceleration guys are hard on this um it's
04:00:58.360 true there's some kooky people in that uh movement where it's the uh the techno optimists
04:01:05.040 where they're taking a bit too flowery an approach where they're saying like any concerns you have
04:01:11.040 against growth are just the evil pessimists i'm like okay look okay just everyone like there's
04:01:17.020 there's some things we need to look at before we start saying that the only people who don't want 1.00
04:01:22.200 infinite growth are just old fuddy duddies who hate good things like fuck off faggot like shut 1.00
04:01:28.080 you know we don't need that we don't need we don't need morons trying to get like we'll wait 1.00
04:01:33.020 till we get women interest in this later don't be saying like oh we can have infinite everything 1.00
04:01:37.720 if you know no there's some real fucking problems you know what cancer is cancers your cells grow 0.91
04:01:43.400 too fucking fast yeah exactly it's just it's yeah i mean there's there's i do think though 0.97
04:01:50.260 but the problem is right now we're actually like i said we're in a degrowth cycle if you look at 0.68
04:01:53.860 the uk at the graphs at the whatever we won't go over them right now because that would be boring
04:01:58.180 but if you look at the graphs um there is a degrowth uh system going on and if you look at
04:02:05.820 the birth rates, that's degrowth. If you look at energy, that's degrowth. If you look like we are
04:02:10.600 in a, like the reason you feel that you're getting poorer is because you're getting poorer and as a
04:02:15.480 society. Um, the reason that things feel like they're getting worse is because they're getting
04:02:20.000 worse as a society. And it's not just immigration. It's everything. It's everything because they are
04:02:25.720 reducing the amount of stuff that is being produced. They're reducing the amount of energy
04:02:29.760 that's being produced. They're reducing the amount of intellectual property being produced.
04:02:33.940 everything is kind of reducing and you know the e the eac people would be like oh um ai will fix
04:02:39.860 it well maybe maybe not but not really we haven't seen any real uh you know gdp numbers on that or
04:02:46.620 anything but um there's a lot of there's a lot of easy wins that we could have if we had the reins
04:02:52.520 and so i guess that's the number one issue is we got to get the reins we got to get the reins
04:02:55.720 yeah you know an example of d growth would be uh and i quote this guy a lot because he says some
04:03:01.760 good things i like but uh it's louis ck and he was on joe rogan and he was delivering what sounded
04:03:09.620 almost like a bit he was working on but he was taking an interesting approach that i think a lot 0.86
04:03:14.780 of the degrowth people are taking now which is like everyone's like oh yeah a lot of these 1.00
04:03:18.640 immigrants will make things worse well maybe things should be made worse maybe it's bad 1.00
04:03:22.700 that we have so much and we're right next to people who don't so maybe we deserve things to 1.00
04:03:29.420 be made a little worse and i never heard someone just outright say that before advocate for their
04:03:34.500 own dispossession or their own lowering of standards that was actually the same thing
04:03:40.340 like yeah people will say that oh well we have it so good yeah you have it so good right now but
04:03:45.160 like and this this is the harsh this is the real reality and it goes back to what i was saying
04:03:49.440 about pushing off externalities when somebody talks like that they never mean themselves
04:03:53.600 they will never ever mean themselves they mean society as a whole but not me everything will
04:03:58.880 be fine for me or um as theron would call it it's a fitness uh signifier you're trying to
04:04:07.600 show people that you're fit i can handle infinite refugees because we're just so
04:04:12.460 strong as a society um it's like um it's like that it's like i can i can do i can do a lot
04:04:19.760 of drugs because i can quit them because i'm mentally strong you know the average person
04:04:24.300 can't do this but i can do this um and we've talked about that but uh before i think but
04:04:29.640 so i'm just looking at the article he had posted here the return of magic words i'm trying to think
04:04:36.260 if we covered that you might have done that on the show uh i don't think you have because that
04:04:40.880 came out recently okay then i guess not i guess but you know um the distributist had a series
04:04:49.320 called magic words and where to find them years ago so you may have talked about that one
04:04:53.480 yeah there was a year where everyone was talking about spells everyone's talking about magic words
04:05:00.320 um yeah there's a lot you could drill into that about the and we've done this on the show and i'm
04:05:05.620 sure you've done it too about the true nature of language and communication um and i think that
04:05:11.300 tied into something you didn't cover yet which was the book you read this year that you thought
04:05:16.120 was the best and that was empire and communications but it just it's all bound up in that yeah
04:05:20.660 Empire Communications, and I highly recommend, because you did not cover this, not that you were supposed to, but I'm just saying, is worth reading for others, is a plea or time by Harold Innes here on Project Gutenberg.
04:05:37.300 It is free to read, and I highly recommend everybody read it.
04:05:41.640 I can't give you a summary right now because my brain is starting to get fried, but it is worth a read.
04:05:45.740 um basically okay how how time how time has gone away because of how um how fast everything moves
04:05:56.180 and this was in 1950 so expand even anecdotally we'd mentioned this a couple of times uh i think
04:06:05.000 even in conversation between us where um i said this with judas who very rudely left and i said
04:06:13.060 isn't it strange that uh in this culture specifically we have these uh strong demarcations
04:06:20.200 between generations as as if you're a part of a team pitted against another team everyone hates
04:06:25.740 boomers and then you know the novelist the novel thinker will say actually i hate gen x the most 0.50
04:06:31.580 or and then it's like zoomers versus millennials like this is a very strange thing we're engaging 0.84
04:06:36.880 it only goes back so far it only goes back to like the last generation it only goes back like
04:06:41.660 four more generations and then it's just the fog of history it really became the during the boomers
04:06:49.820 when they had the term that what was it don't trust anybody over 30 which was coined by a
04:06:55.180 jewish fellow but you know um there was this idea of like fighting the man and the man was your
04:07:00.860 parents and before that it wasn't really a thing like the idea of teenage rebellion was not actually
04:07:06.040 really much of a thing until recently yeah not in the way that we think of it now of course you had
04:07:10.160 the youthful flights of fancy but you didn't have the same um same same level of like oh i'm i'm
04:07:17.200 fighting the parents i'm fighting that because yeah yeah i was gonna say like what's interesting
04:07:22.660 is that as the generations have progressed we've started breaking them down further and further
04:07:27.700 and so with millennials like oh i'm an old millennial i'm on the high end i'm on the loan
04:07:31.740 we saw that with gen x too and then even within zoomers we start fragmenting internally um and
04:07:38.440 you'll notice this fragmentation and this is what McLuhan talks about our conceptualization
04:07:43.180 of time change time minutes as containers of activity so generation the span of time
04:07:50.140 is a container of an identity and that container keeps getting smaller and smaller as the technology
04:07:56.140 speeds up you ever heard the term time boxing I have not what is that okay that's where you take
04:08:03.080 it's literally just setting aside time and being like I will work between this time and this time
04:08:07.080 and like you you literally box your time in and you're like i'm doing this for this period and
04:08:11.640 that's all i'm doing and it's uh basically when i was talking about earlier with the whole idea
04:08:16.120 of everybody trying to cyber put like cyber uh dization onto their life that's an example of
04:08:21.080 it of like we need a time we need to be able to figure out how to organize time because otherwise
04:08:26.040 it just becomes a mess of me doom scrolling and so i'm time boxing this i'm doing this task in
04:08:31.200 exactly this 15 minutes period and that's something mcclellan talked about um as he will
04:08:37.780 say that's more of a product of the industrial revolution and before people even say like of
04:08:41.380 course we had measures of time throughout the ancient world everyone could tell when noon was
04:08:46.840 people had clocks that were measured by water droplets but we are talking about a distinct
04:08:52.240 i don't think time boxing existed the same way and also this was the biggest problem that a lot
04:08:57.460 westerners had when they were dealing with african oral cultures mainly african cultures but
04:09:03.040 middle eastern cultures is that their biggest struggle was appearing anywhere on time in a very
04:09:08.780 very specific sense and they deal with their conceptualization of time isn't distinct as a
04:09:15.060 container of action and that's a huge wall that you got to break down and they realize that to
04:09:21.180 teach that it's like when they talk about trying to get homeless people off the road off the street
04:09:27.280 rather on the road but getting them off the street it's like you don't understand they're
04:09:32.280 there because they don't understand how to be honest too like when you deal with these people
04:09:36.860 one-on-one the guy from software under belt under bell dealt with this he's like they don't
04:09:41.160 understand the value of like saying you'll do something and do it like you need to build up
04:09:46.380 so much of their thing like they just won't show up to a job because that's not a part of their
04:09:51.540 mind anymore they'll just steal from you because that's part of their mind and to break all that
04:09:55.880 town you have to like rebuild them from the ground up so to teach people to show up on time the same 0.96
04:10:01.160 way we recognize time you have to build a fucking civilization around that just to teach them that 0.94
04:10:07.680 it's way more complex than you would think anyway i know that was a bit of a tangent as well 0.97
04:10:11.980 yeah and we came up with like time zones and everything and and again that that i think this
04:10:17.040 article goes into it as well it's like we came up with time zones because we started to see um
04:10:21.860 you know trains and now we can move places quickly and so because space is being shrunk
04:10:26.500 time has been shrunk we have to come up with time zones and so now you know somebody living here is
04:10:31.440 doing this and somebody's doing that which we wouldn't have really thought about before prior
04:10:34.840 to that because travel was slow so if you're going across the ocean it's like you know weeks
04:10:40.580 and when by the time you get there you've adjusted the whole way there and so you wouldn't even think
04:10:44.940 about it yeah you know which is it's the spatialization of time which would be such an
04:10:50.060 alien concept to an ancient mind that time is different and you move and move to a different
04:10:56.120 place and the time is different i'm living in a different time how does that make sense to someone
04:11:02.460 who is a pre-literate civilization it doesn't yeah exactly it's like um yeah jet lag is like a very
04:11:10.540 recent word a very recent phenomenon you would not have even known about that 100 years ago
04:11:17.000 um i like the japanese word for it which is jisei bokeh which is like uh time time lag 0.95
04:11:23.460 retardation um which which means uh retarded molestation it's a lot of 0.95
04:11:29.120 yeah it's actually a deep is you got to go you got to go read deep into their lore um 0.98
04:11:33.880 it's all tentacle stuff huh wow wow wow that's crazy it's crazy man man
04:11:42.140 um anyway i actually do need to get going now we should wrap up there yeah thanks for
04:11:48.120 coming on and i'm hoping to do more streams here as we go into the new year we'll see what that
04:11:53.400 looks like i'm not really usually one for for streaming in the past so i'm going to see what
04:11:59.380 i can do uh going forward but thanks for joining me no i had a great time uh people liked us we'd
04:12:07.500 come back if they hate us don't worry about it but i had a great time and thanks for inviting me
04:12:12.300 on i loved it yeah i appreciate you coming on all right i'll see everybody later i'm gonna try and
04:12:16.680 figure out the vod here in a minute so that it's not lost to time yeah if you need any help let me
04:12:22.080 know because there's a tricky way to do it all right i'll talk to you later bye
04:12:26.040 Hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling
04:12:31.360 Tossed salads and scrambled eggs
04:12:34.260 And maybe I seem a bit confused
04:12:38.840 Yeah, maybe, but I got you, Peg
04:12:41.200 Ha, ha, ha, ha
04:12:43.140 But I don't know