00:00:22.000I like shoplifting, like getting laid.
00:00:24.000Like stealing liquor from my neighbor's cabinet.
00:00:26.000I like getting drunk, smoking cigarettes.
00:00:29.000I like freaking out and causing a scene. I like acting out, like being green. I like not knowing where I'm supposed to be. I like sneaking in to avoid defeat. I like being young, fuck being old. I like writing rhymes and acting like an asshole.
00:00:44.540I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole
00:00:49.380I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole
00:00:54.340I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole
00:00:59.320I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole
00:01:03.840I write, I go to Fatburger, then I come back
00:01:06.480Sometimes I rhyme slow, but never rhyme whack
00:01:08.960And Jeremy Klein likes bitches and saki
00:01:11.480Like to keep drinking until I feel crappy
00:01:14.000Like skateboarding, even though I'm old
00:01:16.420I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole
00:01:19.080I like hiding in the plants at the shopping mall
00:01:41.200I like George Bush blowing up the motherfuckers
00:01:43.980I like bottle rockets, like firecrackers, like chicken fingers, I like big Maccas, like
00:01:49.420burning my mouth and talking a lot of shit, and if you don't like it, my bum is on your
00:01:53.540lips, I like selling out, and taking all the cash, and driving a sports car, and you're
00:01:58.140fucking fast, I'm getting sucked into a black hole, I like writing rhymes, acting like an
00:02:03.200asshole, I like, I like, I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole, I like, I like to
00:02:11.500I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole, I like to write rhymes and act like an asshole, I like kids in Kansas playing with stun guns, like MTV playing my reruns, like finding money in the taxi cab, I like kicking cancer in the motherfucking ass, I like people getting famous overnight and getting bent, Cameron Diaz acting like she president, walking around acting all sweet, but she won't sign a name.
00:02:41.500autograph for kids on the street. I like watching Easy Mike make beats. I like dropping rhymes and
00:02:46.920making people freak. I like cupping the mic in my right palm. I like watching other people's
00:02:52.120movies. I like talking with my mom on the phone. My dad only talks when she's not home. I like
00:02:58.520eating Chinese food with a fork. I like to write rhymes and act like a dork. I like to write rhymes
00:35:59.840um i'm trying to find some some some good stuff here anyway uh half core dildo toss went to
00:36:09.100subaru on the jumbotron nice they could make it part of the game like let's be honest you could
00:36:14.780probably i'm being completely serious here if there are a way legally to allow people to just
00:36:19.520throw silicone offensive objects at the women you could probably sell a lot more tickets and
00:36:25.760charge more do you want butts in seats like you want to make money right ladies you're trying
00:36:32.520you're what oh you're here for the love of the game fuck off you're here to be seen and to take
00:36:37.080some money home so here you go this is what you play for getting penises hurled at you yeah
00:36:43.420um uh here we go where they mentioned there's like a cryptocurrency thing i'm sorry i just
00:36:51.740Because I just had an image of, like, they launched this and, like, you're looking at, like, the VIP box at the front and the entire team, the Harlem Globetrotters, all file in, all of them in their uniforms.
00:37:05.320It's so funny, the idea of it's just NBA players doing it.
00:37:11.100It's fucking Kobe Bryant comes in and just fucking throwing dicks at them.
00:52:21.440oh mickey fraser says they eat pounds of mosquitoes this is what i tell my wife
00:52:24.860anytime she's a spider i'm like keep i like spiders keep them around
00:52:28.820yep our house is full of spiders i love them love those little motherfuckers
00:52:34.140yes sir would you say you're overwhelmed with spiders yes i would say that
00:52:38.160i can see one right now they're everywhere oh here's a
00:52:42.440zed des good comment here we designed our off-grid home in quebec
00:52:46.460in a manner where we need very little heat or air movement what happened to
00:52:50.360you guys no air con no heat except during the close month hey what happened to you guys hey
00:52:55.160so we designed our off-grid home in quebec like five different elements of that fucking phrase
00:53:03.840are the answer to your question so i we shouldn't have to explain it to you we're normal fucking
00:53:07.980people who live wherever the fuck we can afford to live which happens to be this pile of shit
00:53:12.280so yeah one day when i'm a millionaire like you i too will build an off-grid home but i'll build
00:53:18.220in ontario because i'm english is this a beef is this an ongoing discussion or is this nope do you
00:53:24.860know okay no no i'm just being a dick okay i'm very i'm very happy for you zed unless you're
00:53:30.220not white in which case i'm coming for you and you got you're off your meds you're off your rocker
00:53:37.400tonight it's the heat it is the heat dude i'm dying it's bad just so people know there's been
00:53:44.780the heat wave in ontario so i've been like i we have ac in our house and it's blasting i'm still
00:53:50.940sitting in front of a fan i'm right now we do have a window mount ac because our extension
00:53:55.860has a different power circuit which can actually handle it that's the reason i don't have ac is
00:53:59.540my house is 100 years old and hasn't had the electrical done for 50 years and it's a rental
00:54:03.360so but where i'm sitting there is ac but there's also two computers so it's still hot um but you
00:54:09.100know what i i told you i was when i went shooting this weekend we drove east on the 401 i've never
00:54:13.800seen this in my life there were there were patches of the banks of the 401 burnt out like black burnt
00:54:19.800grass smoldering like just spontaneous combustion well i don't know like i'm assuming because there
00:54:24.940was no fire that i mean i couldn't see fire i just saw burnt grass i'm assuming they put it out
00:54:30.040already because it wasn't between lanes it was on the south side um like going into the woods so
00:54:37.580like i mean it would have been a fire unless somebody put it out and then when we were coming
00:54:41.200back coming down south back to the 401 i saw like every fire engine of every county we must
00:54:47.680have passed like a dozen fire engines coming uh passing us on the highway so it was bad man
00:54:52.720by the way zeddez says he's french irish dumb ass how stupid do you feel right now
00:55:00.080not at all give us give us point of view pov your judas looking at yourself in the mirror
00:55:07.120how are you we're essentially brothers i mean i'm also i'm french scottish and i just live here
00:55:13.840because my grandmother landed on the wrong side of the border as a child so here we are the only
00:55:19.120reason i know this this guy zed des is probably actually my best friend i don't know i don't
00:55:24.640know he's a guy i know i know oh you know well there we go zed is that we're just having fun
00:55:30.000we're just we're just rip roaring look i you know i'm because i could be honest i'm just jealous
00:55:37.340i just want and i want to design an off-grid house that's not fair where's my off-grid house
00:55:42.700okay i'm i'm fucking i'm in pity party mode here no i'm not taking it out on you don't worry he's
00:55:48.860sweating he's half nude i'm sure no this might you know what my big problem is i'm not i'm wearing
00:55:55.900all my fucking clothes what's wrong with me you want to talk off grid we never got to speak on
00:56:01.840this but um i was interested in hearing your thoughts about this and this might be old news
00:56:08.400by this point i'm sure it is but we never spoke on that return to the land movements by that guy
00:56:14.920arval i think you probably had some opinions on did we not talk about that last week or you maybe
00:56:18.980you just talked about it i think we just talked about it because we were off last week but this
00:56:23.020was the article i saw initial review finds nothing illegal in proposed whites only community
00:56:30.580attorney general's office as this is the northwest arkansas democrat gazette jesus christ they got
00:56:36.940those um and just so people know this is the website you can see here return to the land.org
00:56:43.640um it's a private membership association it is what it sounds like they're just trying to start
00:56:49.040a small ethno state you know he's been doing the podcast tour he's getting in front of people
00:56:54.800doing a fairly good job as far as i understand and i just wanted to call attention to the article
00:57:01.040because of course people are trying to figure out how to create a legal attack against this
00:57:07.740and it's you know good to know that they weren't able to because just even from the basic bitch
00:57:15.460civic nationalist perspective why can't a bunch of people just buy land and then choose who they have
00:57:21.620on it of course yeah just off the top you know some people are probably familiar with this if
00:57:26.020not i gave you the brief rundown what's your assessment of all this i think it's all right
00:57:32.260i think it's fine i like it i think it's good i think we should do it yeah and that's one thing
00:57:38.660that um i always hear a lot a lot of people have criticisms of maybe they don't like a certain way
00:57:44.980they're doing something or this criteria or that requirement to which you would say okay we'll do
00:57:51.100yourself right get some money together buy the land and have your own rules right because if
00:57:58.560they here's what surprised me about it and uh i've got a little video here to show you and i'd love
00:58:04.840to get your feelings on this so this is one of the co-founders here uh arval's partner i believe
00:58:09.900um i'll just play this here's him standing in front of the very beginnings of a wooden structure
00:58:18.080and he's going to describe what they're doing here this is the pavilion that we're building
00:58:22.360at the return to the land community in northern arkansas and this pavilion we're going to have
00:58:27.920some events and talks and things at our october gathering this year there's going to be a whole
00:58:32.380lot of people coming and it's going to be pretty awesome as you can see we have some concrete poured
00:58:36.280we have some posts put in and we have some beams up and this week we're going to start working on
00:58:40.360the roof unfortunately we are going to run out of money um so if y'all could help us out go to now
00:58:46.200here's what really impressed me from when i first heard about this when i looked into it
00:58:52.200because it does seem that they have people there working on creating buildings building houses
00:58:58.360creating infrastructure and just at that level i'm amazed that they could get any group of
00:59:04.920millennials and gen z to work on a fucking project together to move out there and do a thing i don't
00:59:12.400care what it is yeah as we've known even with the events we planned in the past it's like herding
00:59:18.120cats well it's not easy to do anything with anyone with this sort of mindset unfortunately but
00:59:23.420yeah so continue there i cut you off no i was saying um i was talking to one of my favorite
00:59:29.100pet boomers about this today because we're talking about like tools and renovations and shit and he
00:59:34.620He was kind of joking that the reason that the reason that tools are getting cheaper is because his generation is dying and nobody wants to use them.
00:59:42.120I'm like, yeah, you're actually fucking right about that.
00:59:43.920Like, I mean, you and I are talking about it, but most people my age don't.
01:23:50.440If it's so important for it to be in the city,
01:23:53.300then why don't you just go and buy seven acres
01:23:56.820in downtown toronto and do it yourself oh oh that's difficult isn't it yeah oh fuck oh that
01:24:05.440hurts oh yeah and because i actually do if you want to accomplish a decentralized political goal
01:24:11.460goal okay maybe i've known people who've done this i've known some people in austin texas who
01:24:17.580are starting a sort of fraternity club and that is the way to do it if you're doing it urban yeah
01:24:23.120But the guy I know you guys are talking about, the correct way to do it is build a fraternal organization on existing infrastructure in the city.
01:24:29.460So you can do it both ways, and both ways are valuable.
01:24:32.480And so someone mentioned the BAP guys, because I mentioned BAP.
01:24:36.040I'm like, yeah, they would say all that's stupid.
01:24:38.940Their agenda is elite capture or hoping that they can sort of whisper in the ears of the police.
01:24:47.760Because it seems that all they're doing is saying everything Trump does is godlike.
01:24:53.120You know, I mean, it doesn't actually sound like you're influencing much.
01:24:56.580It sounds like you're just happy with whatever the boss is doing, which is pretty, you know, even if you're doing something, he does something I like.
01:25:04.540I like seeing the immigration numbers.
01:25:06.560I like seeing the deportation numbers.
01:42:55.980when I would see children performing something
01:42:59.820in is very obviously adults words coming out of their mouth and it's something like like wonder
01:43:04.920shows and kind of did this and like hey i get wonder but like seeing like hey it's me child
01:43:10.100reporter do you think niggers have big lips and i'm like i'm just looking at this i'm like do you
01:43:14.420know what you're saying do you like what wonder chosen was doing it ironically that's why it was
01:43:18.680funny i think wonder chosen was making fun of that exact concept that people will go to a protest
01:43:24.060right and they'll like protest you know they're talking about children in gaza or whatever they
01:43:28.140have like a nine-year-old saying a girl who died last week was the same age as me please stop like
01:43:32.780what's her name the the autistic norwegian girl about the climate like it's the same shit and it
01:43:38.540doesn't it doesn't actually for intelligent people i think for competent people it doesn't
01:43:42.800actually help your argument by just putting the words in the mouth of a child stop it just and
01:43:48.120you're you're doing the thing when you put more thought into this than they did this is just like
01:43:53.68028 years later fuck yeah this guy loved the film 20 years later yeah that was a good movie i liked
01:44:00.900it you hated it eh i didn't hate it i didn't think it was great i liked it less after i uh
01:44:08.580finished watching keep talking for a second i'm just gonna pull something up i i haven't seen a
01:44:12.240movie in like a year so i'm not the guy to say but yeah i thought it was pretty good and then i was
01:44:17.120looking around the people had all kinds of different like analyses of what the skull towers
01:44:22.260meant and what all this shit meant and i'm like you know what i'm not listening i'm not reading
01:44:26.140i have my own analysis i i tied together a couple little themes there that i thought
01:44:30.800were symmetrical and that's what the movie's about for me so you can all fuck off i thought
01:44:35.400it was good i was actually pretty good i finished it and i realized i like danny boyle's directing
01:44:40.580if you go into it wanting a zombie movie you're gonna get it like it's it's tense the action
01:44:47.700set pieces are great you're right there in it you're on the edge you see it knows how to build
01:44:53.720tension knows how to make a kinetic chase scene all that's good and you know once i left the
01:45:01.420movie and was thinking back on the things that happened like i'm not sure i like this and you
01:45:07.100know i mean the things and you disagree because you had said everything was completely consistent
01:45:11.340here's what really bothered me and took me out of the movie as i was watching it so you can kind
01:45:18.340of see the trailer in front of you here and i don't know how many people know about this it's
01:45:21.200the sequel to 28 days later and then 28 weeks later i believe or 20 months later and so it's
01:45:28.320way far in the future in after this pandemic um there's still zombies around which there shouldn't
01:45:35.360be you know i mean i understand that you're not zombies they're not zombies though well it's
01:45:40.300in fact it should have been solved by now after 20 fucking years it should have been solved like
01:45:44.520if you had basically the entire island of the united kingdom is cordoned off from the rest of
01:45:50.260the world and then within the island by this point you have little mini societies that are
01:45:54.520self-sustaining in these villages and if they are truly as defensive as they are and they are
01:45:59.660these things should have actually just fucking died off by now after 28 fucking years
01:46:03.920it doesn't make sense and here's what really bothered me is that they decided to break the
01:46:09.200zombies up into and they are zombies like really that's what they're they're fast but you can you
01:46:14.260can actually kill these zombies easier than regular zombies because a regular zombie it can
01:46:20.200survive without food these can't they desperately need food right to the point where they're eating
01:46:25.000animals right right right but but the idea is that they have different classes of zombies so
01:46:30.300the father and the son they're going out yeah and there's like oh these are like the slow and low
01:46:35.440ones and so there's like a special class of zombies that are like fat like morbidly obese
01:46:40.420and they're slow and they crawl on the ground and they just eat worms and like
01:46:43.980what but why would you have a category of zombies because they're all the same type of fat they're
01:46:49.080like cherubic and they're just eating like bugs and i'm like first of all you wouldn't be that
01:46:53.240fat second of all you were all asian too yeah i don't notice that they were like chinese or
01:46:57.760korean or something all the fat ones what is you can't just put that there it's like a video
01:47:02.500Well, no, I think that was intentional, though.
01:47:04.340I think they're racist because, like, if you remember the original films, the point to it isn't actually a zombie virus in the traditional.
01:47:10.480It's not like, you know, the you know, the Walking Dead or whatever the fuck where it's some some some hand wave.
02:05:51.880if you know anything about black nationalists.
02:05:53.520This is just fine, right? Like a black nationalist, a nigger who came from somewhere else within a decade and has no history at all, no involvement at all with our nation, is allowed to be a nationalist in our country. This is fine, right? He's on the, like, it's unreal, man.
02:13:13.760You know, if we're shot at, we shoot back. If there's a wrong, we right it. And if it takes guns to do it, as it does in national wars, international wars, sometimes it takes fire to fight fire.
02:13:24.900Well, of course, I cannot justify every act of violence that anyone has participated in. In some cases, violence was met with violence. We defend ourselves.
02:13:30.600If there's any violence, it's done purely in a self-defense manner. There have been other acts of violence which have just been done by people who do not represent the Klan.
02:13:36.800If we want to condemn an entire organization because of an absence of a few individuals or a few people,
02:13:40.740then let's attack all the Christian religions because of the Salem witch burnings or the Spanish Inquisition.
02:22:26.480we're taking a bit of a different approach. There's been a lot of clamor around maybe
02:22:31.120starting a new political party or something of the like, some sort of nationalist
02:22:34.360entity. And we decided to take things from a bit of a unique approach, I suppose,
02:22:40.520a medical political approach. There's a lot of challenges that political parties face
02:22:45.800in Canada, small parties in particular. I'd know that better than most. But there's things like
02:22:52.420the the kind of uh you know the general electoral system first past the post makes it a big
02:22:58.080challenge the way that uh subsidies from the government support political parties uh help
02:23:03.540large parties at the expense of small ones um as well as just uh the kind of general population
02:23:10.680dynamics in in landscape of canada the the the sparse population across a massive land mass
02:23:16.240These these things make it really difficult to organize a small political party in Canada, much more difficult than, you know, smaller European countries where it's much easier for small groups of people to get together and work collaboratively.
02:23:29.680Um, so instead of diving into a political party and, uh, losing, uh, we decided to, to take things
02:23:42.620a bit more of a metapolitical approach to influence existing political parties. Um,
02:23:50.180a big thing that we've seen is, you know, there's, there's all these arguments around vote splitting
02:23:54.420and such. We want to make it so it's not a question of choosing us or choosing another
02:24:00.600party. We've made it, we've made our views clear and we want to amass a large base of
02:24:05.320support that agree with our ideas of Canadian nationalism and remigration. And we want to
02:24:09.560use that base of support to influence political parties. We already know that there's massive
02:24:14.340demand for these issues. Public opinion polls show time after time that a large majority
02:24:19.000of Canadians want little to no immigration and even a significant portion want mass deportations
02:24:25.480but there's no kind of organizing factor to these people so it's easy to take them kind of for
02:24:30.700granted and focus on other political issues. We want to make it so that's impossible to ignore
02:24:36.140that there's an organized cohort of voters that are ready to shift to a different party or not
02:24:40.720vote at all depending on a party's or politician's stance on these issues. These are the most
02:24:47.300important issues facing Canada today. And it's time we have a kind of professionalized organization
02:24:52.380that'll make it clear that this issue cannot be ignored any longer. And these are the only
02:24:59.000solutions that are viable to address them. Now, you said a lot there, and there's many points
02:25:04.580that I'd love to drill into, and we will. But I think a great place to start, I'd be remiss if we
02:25:09.860did not talk about your previous life as a member of the PPC. Would it just be a member or were you
02:25:16.820in any sort of position within that organization.
02:25:20.040And then there was a break and here we are now.
02:25:22.720But without getting into the guts of what the PPC was,
02:25:27.000would you care to share your story there?
02:25:30.080Maybe what inspired you to move on as well?
02:55:59.180and I'm still interested in something like this,
02:56:03.140if not this, then something approaching it.
02:56:06.120now why because you know maybe at one point in my life maybe even when i was younger i thought i was
02:56:11.460being smart and crafty by saying that i'm not falling for any voter rolls i'm not going to put
02:56:18.940myself at risk but over time i think this does come with age it's a mistake to say that as you
02:56:25.260get older you get weaker you know or more risk adverse i actually think you get crazier i actually
02:56:32.380think you become more settled in the lines you've drawn around around yourself that you won't cross
02:56:38.220for example but another one would be that it feels like you're living in a what we call a prey
02:56:42.960position constantly trying to avoid being seen retreating further and further into the darkness
02:56:49.620because as i said there's nothing outlandish about anything you're saying these are reasonable
02:56:55.340points they're points that i always use this as a listman says can you show this to a member of
02:57:00.900your family and they're going to freak out i don't think so i think your aunts and your uncles and
02:57:06.340your parents are probably talking about the same thing they just never heard it put into these
02:57:10.520words before but if you're always arguing in favor of the preposition at a certain point that just
02:57:17.220sounds pathetic and for me despite the job despite the kids despite the age not that old really but
02:57:24.620if i can't go out there and say i would like maybe not infinity immigrants maybe i don't like
02:57:33.900the west coast seems to be honeycombed by chinese communist party agents and we should i don't like
02:57:39.120some of the indians should go back i i don't like that csis is a fucking joke within the five eyes
02:57:45.300community i don't like that this this we've been subverted so much that no one takes us seriously
02:57:52.020and it's directly because of this it's because we're allowing this to happen and everyone can
02:57:55.960see it everyone thinks it's stupid if that runs afoul of some laws i actually don't fucking care
02:58:01.120anymore and maybe i'm crazy maybe i'm not representative of everyone in my society but
02:58:06.540if you can't sign up for this then what okay you're going to be the smartest fucking corpse
02:58:11.120at the bottom of the pile when things really get bad and you you're this you're so smart you didn't
02:58:15.860say anything you didn't at least try and just from a distance this doesn't look like anything
02:58:22.020like sure if if they're gonna put the microscope over this they're gonna put the microscope over
02:58:27.560anything is what i'm saying and i it just seems that if not this then what at this point so
02:58:34.900there's my yeah and that was a big design philosophy behind the website in particular
02:58:38.600like i wanted to uh especially the the page that you're on there the what is a remigration page
02:58:43.860I think these ideas are becoming more and more normal, but a lot of people can struggle to articulate the problem and the solution.
02:58:53.740So this page is just kind of our one-stop shop on everything.
02:58:57.820We take you from kind of what nationalism is to the kind of driving force behind the problems of mass immigration, the lies that they tell to justify it, what the great replacement is, and then it kind of leads right into our kind of re-migration page at the end.
02:59:20.080um so this is i kind of envision this as the page that uh that anyone can just share oh you're having
02:59:28.320an argument with with someone in your family maybe this is it just point them here and this
02:59:34.860will explain it to to everyone i do it's great though and sorry to interrupt you but we talk
02:59:40.940about this on our show occasionally that there's almost no argument that exists anymore for mass
02:59:48.480migration it previous points there would have been in years past they might even just thrown
02:59:53.280out oh they do the jobs that canadians don't want to do it seems that even liberals have
02:59:56.980surrendered that argument there it's not clear to anyone that there's a job shortage that's an
03:00:02.460insane line of argumentation so almost every argument that i was seeing 10 years ago isn't
03:00:09.360there anymore and they've just admitted it's just the thing we're doing i don't know why we're doing
03:00:13.800it we're just doing because we have to but it's like there's actually no logic behind it anymore
03:00:17.940which is fucking wild yeah it's just this well i mean i there are kind of elitist arguments about
03:00:23.560uh lowering our wages and and profiting off of higher housing the stuff we talk about like even
03:00:30.020on our show but also amongst ourselves the real secret reasons and i know you were on an interview
03:00:35.640with um my friend black horse on the red ensign program and his big thing is elite theory talks
03:00:41.300with laurentian lethal westernly and stuff and getting in their minds uh and we don't even need
03:00:46.200to go down that path about why they're doing it you can find other sources for that but uh suffice
03:00:52.120to say that for regular people i think they've woken up to the fact that it's like they're not
03:00:57.560even trying to lie to us anymore because if they told the truth everyone would hate it everyone
03:01:02.940would say like oh they just need a consumer class the century initiative has just decided
03:01:07.600canada needs a hundred million people by over the next hundred years well why is that i don't know
03:01:13.500they just want to do it and they've got billions of dollars so that's what we're doing and they
03:01:17.100just it's just it's just out there no one can do anything yeah yeah exactly um so this is our kind
03:01:25.800of central kind of piece of uh the website to kind of break down uh and give you kind of responses to
03:01:32.520all the kind of common arguments uh what's fueling the the uh the push for mass immigration
03:01:39.000what we should do instead it's kind of all in this one single web page so if you if you have
03:01:45.820anyone that you think you can convince to to our side this would be the perfect kind of web page to
03:01:52.260to kind of red pill them so to speak and if i can just uh i don't know if you ever saw this but i
03:01:59.380just love to share this momentarily um once again to explain where i'm coming from this was a short
03:02:04.800video that myself and my team had produced christ how long was this eight months ago yeah time flies
03:02:12.780but it's called paving over the public canada immigration policy and opposition excellent well
03:02:17.740thank you very much um and i made it with people like yourselves and mine but this was one of the
03:02:22.960just watching it again this weekend yeah it's it's jarring it really shakes you out and you realize
03:02:29.500that and this is something i was saying even on recent live streams i said you guys have
03:02:34.140people seem to underestimate just how much of a simple policy position this was like
03:02:39.200re-migration as a solution doesn't sound that outlandish because migration mass migration
03:02:46.480initially was just a policy position it's just something politicians decided to do
03:02:50.660with the stroke of a pen of of all of the problems facing us right now that the dominion society
03:02:56.640doesn't get into you know there's technological problems there's problems with liberalism as such
03:03:02.120there's all kinds of other things that are oppressed us through modernity. This actually
03:03:07.360is the easiest one. The mass migration problem, if they wanted to, could, in my opinion, they could
03:03:15.360solve it within a few years. It's not even that hard. Every other country's figured it out.
03:03:22.080So that's why I like that you're singling this one out, because I think it's the most achievable.
03:03:27.020I think it's the most achievable in the shortest amount of time, and I think the support is there.
03:03:32.860Furthermore, I don't think the opinions in favor of immigration are even that entrenched
03:03:39.480when you speak to, let's call them old stock Canadians.
03:03:43.480Like, they kind of pair it, and I'm going to mention something you had talked about before,
03:05:10.760A concept that probably 90% of Canadians
03:05:14.200have never heard of or considered um or at least not in a in a coherent uh cohesive kind of plan
03:05:22.240like we've put forward and we want to push those boundaries and make these kind of ideas normal
03:05:28.320um and it comes on kind of both of our main ideas it's all it's not only re-migration but it's also
03:05:35.260kind of pushing back on this liberal internationalist globalist uh worldview and putting
03:05:42.440forward our own worldview in the form of nationalism um these these ideas are completely
03:05:48.580common sense in the in the broader history of man um they're completely normal um but we're in
03:05:55.740in this day and age they're considered kind of radical uh so we're going to push the boundaries
03:06:01.080and and kind of reinforce uh normal thought back on society that's gone yeah that's what insane
03:06:09.640And also, and it's sometimes difficult for me to explain this to Americans, because we love our American audiences, but the Canadian voter is substantially different. Teaching the average Canadian how to be idealistic again.
03:06:26.800Because when you speak to them, sometimes it feels like they're shackled by these opinions that, well, we have to do this because we're a nation of immigrants or because multiculturalism is enshrined in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms or it's some legalistic reason.
03:06:42.280But we're daring to ask people, especially young people, what do you want the country to be?
03:06:53.120Does everything feel like it's going well?
03:06:54.740just take five minutes and imagine what you would like a candidate to be and they'll say well you
03:07:00.800know what do i do against these people that levy criticisms against me it's like well here's the
03:07:06.900thing you need to understand that if you can indeed trace your lineage back multiple generations
03:07:13.520if you are confident in the place of in this country as you probably are those who are
03:07:19.880listening then it actually doesn't fucking matter what anyone said they can't you know debate you
03:07:26.820around it you know i mean they can't introduce like aha but you're actually an immigrant just
03:07:31.420like me i got here five minutes ago your family got here you know seven generations ago we're the
03:07:35.820same you don't even need to engage in that debate you can tell them to shut up you don't need to
03:07:41.920feel as if you must engage with this stuff sit down as a citizen of this nation called canada
03:07:48.700And for once in your life, ask, do I like the way things are going? How could they be? And what does that look like? And that's so antithetical, I think, to the average Canadian voter. You have to teach them how to do that, teach them a new dream of Canada. And that's why I think this organization could even sort of crowbar that idea in.
03:08:08.800Yeah, I think that's what's really animating people behind our movement in general. So much of what people have become cynical about in politics is just the general negativity of everything. So much of politics is just rejecting and opposing the other side.
03:08:26.040um and i think that the ppc is the worst kind of culprit of these i think they offer kind of no
03:08:31.620sort of positive cohesive vision for the country they just reject a bunch of ideas that
03:08:35.980uh they think they can kind of gain some popularity off of uh we're putting forward
03:08:42.260two positive ideas um and i think this is also why kind of remigration is uh becoming such a
03:08:49.220kind of uh popular term around the world it's become this sort of positive mobilizing myth
03:08:56.020for young people in particular who had their countries stolen from them before they even
03:09:01.260graduated high school. We're going to take the country back. We have the plan to do so.
03:09:07.580And we're going to pass the country on to the next generation much better than it was passed
03:09:12.720on to us. And I think that's what's getting people so excited and so interested. It's kind
03:09:17.320of like a breath of fresh air after breathing the kind of noxious fumes of modern politics for the
03:09:25.180last few decades uh we're rejecting it all we stand for two simple ideas and i i think a broad
03:09:33.100set of society can can get on board with them yeah and that's why i liked the um the phrase
03:09:39.080vanguards because i think that would be the goal um and you had mentioned in another interview
03:09:45.980might have been with the schmidt's house by saying that you know broadly people will kind of they're
03:09:51.380not you know very ambitious in their politics they tend to go along to get along that's just
03:09:56.240not with canada that's everywhere else really so what you really need is to attract that what 10
03:10:02.820let's just let's just make up numbers right but 10 of the most passionate people the ones who are
03:10:09.320the radicals the activists the ones who agitate for change and make decisions and that's what
03:10:14.340you're trying to attract and i know when you were on with the black horse um as i said his big thing
03:10:20.500his elite theory and he posed a question which was how can you use this i think there was even
03:10:26.680a comment here in the chat um i'm just i'm not gonna look it up but i was gonna based on my
03:10:33.260memory was how can you use this to affect the elites you know and for those who've listened
03:10:38.960to our show before you got your laurentian elites in ontario we've got the western elites you've got
03:10:43.420the quebecois they got their own elite i don't know what's going on on the east coast no one
03:10:47.860tells me what's going on over there there might be nothing there might be something and then you
03:10:51.940know i i suspect there's another one that we just haven't written about yet but some kind of
03:10:56.620dynastic family in the mix but the question was yeah yeah there's something brewing in the east
03:11:03.980coast i'm sure of it but uh there's how how would you affect change with the elites and that's why
03:11:11.660i thought okay the vanguards party you're trying to attract the people who are the most ambitious
03:11:16.100in this sort of direction and then using them to pierce into that but you know if you wanted to
03:11:22.740speak to that um maybe there's no good answer for this but i know that no no i have been thinking
03:11:28.240about this and since since black horse kind of stumped me um because as as i mentioned like we
03:11:34.000are taking a pretty populist uh stance in in getting organized and i do think that's important
03:11:38.840um i've read the populist illusion i understand elite theory i understand both sides of it
03:11:44.600Um, but I think when it comes to the elite perspective, like there are a lot of benefits
03:11:50.180to mass immigration, you know, as we, as we quickly went over, you know, suppressing wages,
03:11:55.380rising asset prices, these are benefits to, to, to elite owners, right? But the, the consequence
03:12:01.820of, of social cohesion affects everyone. Um, and the elites themselves benefit from having a stable
03:12:08.880and a stable society for which to profit off of.
03:12:27.220and it's going to change the labor force dynamics drastically.
03:12:32.200And I'm concerned with what Canada will look like
03:12:38.420given the lack of overall kind of community in order as a result of mass immigration as
03:12:46.100these kind of labor force shocks hit our new population. And that risks the entire structure
03:12:54.240top to bottom. So I think that elites will resonate with that message. I think that
03:13:03.360everyone can agree that our society is less nice to live in now um and you know perhaps they can
03:13:12.460get away from it a little bit better you know they're jet-setting internationalist types um
03:13:18.180but having a country that you can recognize i think there's a value to that regardless of of
03:13:24.880your standing in society yeah i think you also need to be willing to be bullies for a while like
03:13:31.600For example, when I hear about academic institutions that are taking massive hits because they don't have that revenue stream of international students, which is just scams upon scams, right?
03:13:44.160Then they start complaining, well, what are we going to do?
03:13:51.500Just like in America, if I were American and all the farmers say, we don't know how to make this work without a slave cast.
03:13:58.320I'd say, figure out your fucking corn.
03:14:01.600Number one. Second of all, don't complain at me. Talk to me. Here's what it is. Here's the law. The law is you don't get to do this anymore. I'm not actually thinking about you. I'm thinking about everyone else. Okay. And that sucks for you. Now we can talk. Let's figure out how to make this make sense now. You want to run a university. You want to run a lower rung college. I guess you need to figure out how to make a new trades program or a new suite of retraining programs.
03:14:28.780and you need to do what colleges always do.
03:20:40.240uh, you can feel something is wrong deep inside of your soul. Um, and I think our kind of
03:20:46.480professionalism and, uh, you know, high aesthetic sensibilities, um, will put us on the radar of
03:20:53.880some of these folks. And if they, if they do want to, uh, make a difference in these areas,
03:20:58.480I think they'd be more open to working with an organization like ours than, um, some of the,
03:21:03.680some of the different, uh, activists and organizations that have predated us.
03:21:08.340yeah and playing the elite game really it's it's a job in itself because you need to pay close
03:21:14.480attention just the mainstream news you got to pay very close attention to what mark carney is up to
03:21:19.620like for example there appears to be in one way or another a shift in focus away from america
03:21:25.180to building trade ties with europe and elsewhere so that presents narrative opportunities for
03:21:31.180something like this what does closing doors to America mean for you know this thing that we're
03:21:38.220doing so but it's that every single week making a different argument every single week which can be
03:21:44.080done because some people will say the reason I bring this up some you know cynical people would
03:21:49.180say well why try to talk to them at all they're the ones who got us into this mess they're the
03:21:54.340ones responsible for all this is there any reason to even why would they hear us out and I'm you
03:21:59.860cognizant of that i understand that but you know i'm just i'm an optimist you know i'm just a
03:22:05.320sweater boy cutie deep down and i think that look uh at some point they'll never admit that they
03:22:12.080were wrong they'll never cede any ground to us or people like us but they will shift in some way
03:22:20.200because the plan that they had it just doesn't work anymore like we we can intuit that infinity
03:22:27.780you know low-skilled migrants is not the way like it that's if anything a short-term game if anything
03:22:33.880a momentary bump in the gdp but long term i think they know that too but they're they're kind of at
03:22:39.900a loss for what to do um and i think some say there's been a vibe shift i don't like to employ
03:22:46.340that terminology really but i do think right now is uh is the moment for something like this because
03:22:51.980I suspect that even not all elites, but certain elites are looking for something else because, you know, a lot of ideas left with Justin Trudeau, let's just say that.
03:23:05.260There's people in search of an alternative to this system, which doesn't even work economically.
03:31:24.540But I remember hearing about the Patel Hotel Cartel, the fact that one family, the Patels, own something to the tune of 72 percent of hotels by basically getting their families to live there and live in slave conditions and then just undercutting other hotels and engaging in this this process to drive out the competition and have a monopoly there.
03:31:47.820so hey they've been here since the 70s but they have accumulated enough capital and influence to
03:31:55.080become something of a political player while sending money back home while they started their
03:32:00.280own banks to encourage people to come over here and i would look at that and say i i you should
03:32:04.480just get rid of all that just get rid of them and i don't even have a legal case for it i understand
03:32:09.280that but i think everyone looks at that and says that's fucked up so something must be done so
03:32:15.360just to set that up uh the answer question what what about all those people yeah so we've tried
03:32:21.220to put forward kind of send them back into a cohesive uh legitimate kind of policy plan uh
03:32:28.780in terms of people that are here that came through the proper channel we kind of offer a few different
03:32:33.880ideas so the first one is um uh a voluntary repatriation program uh so as i mentioned this
03:32:41.500would be offering kind of incentives for people to voluntarily give up their citizenship and
03:32:46.420return to their country. We saw Trump do this a couple of months ago. They started offering,
03:32:51.780you know, free plane tickets back home. So that would probably be the first step.
03:32:56.080And then we probably increase kind of financial incentives to encourage more and more people to
03:33:00.440leave for giving up their citizenship. This one's very easy. And, you know, big constitutional
03:33:07.560changes or fights with the Supreme Court and so on wouldn't be required to implement such a thing.
03:33:13.940The next one is there's a class before you get your full citizenship in Canada called the
03:33:20.760permanent residency, which allows you to stay here indefinitely, but you don't have full citizenship
03:33:25.160rights. So these people, as per my understanding, would be more easy to remove. So we want to
03:33:34.780adjust the rules currently you can have it revoked um if you engage in like criminal behavior or if
03:33:41.000you lied and engage in fraud on your application we would kind of make sweeping changes to this
03:33:47.080to allow us to remove all the permanent residents that uh aren't full citizenships and send them
03:33:51.500back so there's a it's hard to get good figures on on how many permanent residents are in the
03:33:56.660country right now um but it's probably uh roughly four million but it's uh it's hard to get
03:34:05.240statistics on where they are in that uh process but that would allow us to remove a lot of people
03:34:11.920that are currently here legally but aren't full citizens yet um and then the third one
03:34:17.940you'll find in phase uh three there point eight it's uh adjusting and expanding the rules for
03:34:24.200revoking naturalized citizenship. So again, revoking naturalized citizenship is currently
03:34:30.440very, very strict in Canada. I think the only way you can do it is if you engage in fraud to get
03:34:36.240your citizenship. But we propose kind of broader changes to allow for people that would be deemed
03:34:45.540like against our national interest or or demonstrating loyalty to foreign countries
03:34:53.940to have their citizenship annulled and be deported so with this we have in mind folks that are you
03:35:03.100know in our streets engaging in violent tribal conflicts that are important to our country like
03:35:11.160clearly these people are against Canada's national interest. They're not loyal to our
03:35:17.300country. They're still loyal to a foreign power. We would use this as justification to have their
03:35:23.240citizenship revoked and allow us to remove them from the country. Now, this would be a massive
03:35:27.740kind of constitutional change, right? Taking away citizenship. Under Harper, this was a rule
03:35:36.780uh if you engage in terrorism and um uh trudeau early on his when he became prime minister he
03:35:44.600he annulled that uh rule he that's actually where his famous a canadian is a canadian is a canadian
03:35:51.520line came from on the debate stage uh he was giving harper shit for taking away or having
03:35:58.040a rule to take away citizenship from terrorists um so when he says a canadian is a canadian is a
03:36:03.480he means it doesn't matter if you're a terrorist you're still a canadian um it makes me mad every
03:36:08.860time i hear it i never get less mad yeah so we want to kind of bring back kind of a more broad
03:36:15.340set of rules and i i would expect challenges from the supreme court on on especially this point
03:36:21.820um but i think uh a government that's really taking the kind of canadian interest in mind
03:36:28.160would be uh ready to take advantage of parts of our constitution like the notwithstanding clause
03:36:36.060and like the peace order and good governance clause to kind of reassort um order within
03:36:42.940canadian society and i think if you had the support of the people the supreme court would
03:36:48.560have a difficult time uh overturning things like that um but that that's that's our proposal when
03:36:56.060it comes to the the the legal folks that came here through the uh proper channels when the kind
03:37:02.360of traitors were in charge i think that's a very robust plan nothing much to argue it there i know
03:37:09.080we gotta get going soon i want to get to two points and these could be the last two uh one
03:37:13.220sex freakman says make monthly penis inspection mandatory for permanent citizens you can't cheat
03:37:20.460on that he says it is true you can't cheat on that there's no bad ideas in brainstorming you
03:37:26.760got to put it up on the board uh a more serious question here was daniel what do you think about
03:37:32.840the government of alberta and its recent issues with immigration reform the ucp has talked of
03:37:38.900freezing financial support to immigrants as well this is from anonymous yeah i'm not um quite sure
03:37:47.540what you're referring to i i've seen danielle smith talk about taking some some inspiration
03:37:51.820about uh from from quebec on matters of immigration but she seems to flip flop back
03:37:58.200and forth on on immigration related matters frequently um i know they recently just
03:38:04.320introduced some new program to allow uh you know permanent residents non-citizens from foreign
03:38:09.660countries to act as police officers and stuff so um it doesn't seem like there's a lot of
03:38:16.120ideological consistency coming out of the ucp on the on the immigration file but i i support uh
03:38:22.420technically speaking immigration is a shared jurisdiction between provincial governments
03:38:26.240and federal governments and i support all uh uh provinces you know taking a page out of
03:38:34.080out of quebec's book and being a bit more selective with their immigrants and putting pressure