00:44:21.300God, women are so fucking annoying.1.00
00:44:24.980you shouldn't have to i do i figured out a way to do it where i'm i'm not0.99
00:44:30.720it's not it's not irradiated uh just a couple of things i wanted to mention uh one is that
00:44:38.700there's a new article up on the vanguard's journal which is the place where i publish
00:44:44.460articles that are pulled from what we discussed on the show this one was a piece that i'd written
00:44:51.160for a magazine that didn't end up materializing i don't even know if the magazine ended up launching
00:44:58.840it's kind of stuck in limbo it's called the roman revolution of the flesh and it was going to be a
00:45:04.760book review of christianity and classical culture which is a book that we cover on the show before
00:45:10.360and then i characteristically took that into a strange direction and i was mentioning a bunch
00:45:15.320of other shit but i'm really proud of it it's pretty interesting so check that out
00:45:19.480And we just announced, and we haven't mentioned it on the show officially, but something we've been working on for a while, is this November, November 7th, I'm going to Dallas, Texas to host a live recording of our sister show, Do You Even Read?
00:45:39.860which i host with the prudentialist so november 7th dallas texas check uh my x profile at legally
00:45:47.600ironic or you know we'll be bringing it up on the next episode do you even read which is this monday
00:45:54.920um the tickets are on eventbrite so you can search it up on there look up do you even read you'll
00:46:00.600find it uh you can buy them now and we're going to be covering this book called self-made creating
00:46:07.760our identities from da vinci to the kardashians by tara isabella burton and uh the event space
00:46:14.840that we got it took us a while to find an adequate event space it's really interesting it's like a
00:46:20.660theater it's a theater in an art center and i'm really happy with it but it's not going to be0.97
00:46:27.020a catered event it's just going to be like you're going to see a show yeah so don't expect fucking
00:46:33.760snacks it's not going to be a bar or anything like that like some of the other events we've0.74
00:46:37.080had in the past um but yeah i'm very very excited about it never been to dallas texas
00:46:42.680and i'm not going to be spending a whole lot of time down there but very happy to go and tickets
00:46:48.340have been selling pretty well so far so there's an early bird special on right now it's where
00:46:53.360tickets are 15 off so if you're interested in going if you're in the texas area if you want
00:46:57.040to fly down and meet us be sure to do that it's it is worth pointing out you joke about this
00:47:02.660sometimes like we always stress when a show goes up and you can't sell tickets right away
00:47:06.340correct me if i'm wrong but every single show that you've run in the past two years
00:47:10.100including the recent big one that we talked about was sold out more than a more than a week before
00:47:16.380the event yeah that's just how people are too like we try and it helps to buy tickets early
00:47:22.600it helps us pay for the venue it helps us kind of recoup the investment because you have to pay a
00:47:29.320certain amount of front there's a lot of investment um involved in this and so it makes our lives
00:47:35.640easier and if people can buy it early but some people like to leave to the last minute and we've
00:47:41.320held events where people wait to the last minute it's too late there's a few people for the april
00:47:45.940event that wanted to get in and we couldn't sell them anymore so if they think they can just wait
00:47:51.960until the day of nope you know like and it's not we're not flexing it's just like it's they're not
00:47:57.900big events like we don't have the money to run huge events so they're limited in number you can't fit
00:48:02.420like the april event you sold as many tickets as you could it was essentially
00:48:05.720like there were how many there must have been 15 of us standing at the back doors listening
00:48:10.020through the doors because there were so many people there so yeah yeah we try and do what
00:48:14.740we can but even for that one the vetting was so important so like anyone and people should know
00:48:20.280this generally if you're the type of person that wants to wait to the last minute depending on the
00:48:24.340event that you're going to you may be viewed with suspicion because if someone's trying to
00:48:29.380be an infiltrator that's what we'll try and do get in the last minute sneak in don't have time
00:48:33.640to check the email usually there's no information they're not doing a background check on you but
00:48:38.120they just try and see you know is this person on the level who knows this person and you know you
00:48:43.660might just be complicating your own you know enjoyment if you don't if you go down that road
00:48:48.360so i'm saying this out of love buy a ticket now you freak and tell me good place in town to get
00:48:55.440some brisket yes that's that's it for now uh we didn't have an interview the last episode we're
00:49:02.420not going to have an interview this time i've got a few lined up for the next episodes from
00:49:07.020from now on but uh you know i'm not doing as many interviews as i used to i'm really only doing it
00:49:15.520if it's an individual i'm really really excited about doing and i've got something i want to do
00:49:46.480I'm going to be doing a prerecorded one with him next week.
00:49:50.480and um just yeah just a few others so you'll see but you know don't expect one every single episode
00:49:56.800it's just time constraints right now we've mentioned this before this is why we had to go
00:50:01.580down to two episodes of blood sally it's just that the workload of our regular lives has become
00:50:06.700insurmountable and i just signed out another couple of clients and uh we're doing it out of
00:50:12.540love but it's it's just it would be an inferior product if you had to really just race one out1.00
00:50:18.540every week there might not be enough jews to complain about that's my fear1.00
00:50:24.220what happens when you run out of jews you start talking about the same old jews can we manufacture0.93
00:50:32.180some can we manufacture some can we vertical integration of the jews supply can we create
00:50:37.900synthetic jews i think that's like the uh that's the right stuff dot biz that's like how you get
00:50:43.960into you control the supply chain right like you manufacture the jews you manufacture the0.79
00:50:48.200outrage and then you uh yeah this is what i was made fun of geo for saying where like he calls0.75
00:50:53.800everyone zionist and jewish he'll call this person jewish and i'll say are they actually
00:50:59.240jewish and say i don't know well spiritually i guess and he's i'm like you can't just call
00:51:06.160whatever jewish like i i demand a standard like just tell me if they're fully jewish
00:51:14.380michelin quarter whatever but don't i don't want to get into this like well i mean they're kind of
00:51:20.920they're serving the interests in an indirect way so they're kind of spirit like that's not what
00:51:25.420spiritually means you know i'm not trying to just get on him but like i've heard people say that
00:51:30.600where i'm like you should afford yourself the freedom to dislike something that isn't explicitly
00:51:37.500jewish yeah you can hate something for being irish you're allowed to not like the irish
00:51:42.920i like the irish but you don't need to start saying that the irish are jews
00:51:47.900you can just like them on the on their demerits
00:51:52.700you can just like the irish i don't know anyone who just likes the scottish
00:51:58.660interesting hmm there's not a brown's living in scotland maybe
00:52:04.620yeah you know i i can't imagine i can't imagine like a brown existing in scotland0.82
00:52:11.620really that the terrain just seems no it's bad there now it's as bad as the uk yeah yeah yeah0.92
00:52:19.380this is more of a sponsored by the shadow government really i imagine it's very hill
00:52:24.220i imagine it is as like what do i imagine just mostly cliffs and hills and sheep there's a lot
00:52:32.080of that there's definitely a lot of that it's beautiful countryside it's difficult for me to
00:52:37.580imagine an indian in a field like most terrain like i can imagine them close my eyes city yes0.99
00:52:47.660yes okay jungle yes but you know a nice pasture standing on on a hill in in kind of a blue gray1.00
00:52:59.000sky i'm like i don't know what what are you doing there i don't know yeah god god would swallow you0.62
00:53:05.400up not enough hustle and bustle so speaking of synthetic jews i just want to talk about this
00:53:12.020because i want to know what you think so do you saw this story about this former anthropic
00:53:19.960employee that was doing a tour of the mainstream media outlets being a whistleblower that's what
00:53:26.920he called himself about here's the headline from nbc news anthropic whistleblower says congress
00:53:33.220should let ai companies police themselves until a regulatory board is established his name is
00:53:38.500jacob coxson and he was just out there saying he worked at ai development at anthropic and he left
00:53:48.820because he was scared about how ai was being developed and he was out there
00:53:56.100telling a story about how it's going to kill us in a few years
00:53:59.220how exactly do you think ai will actually carry out the action of destroying all of humanity0.84
00:54:06.020yep honestly when i talk to my friends and family about this i find it easier to or people seem to
00:54:12.500actually get more of a sense for it if they're further away from technology because i honestly
00:54:16.120think it sounds more like science fiction than real technology or like people who are very used
00:54:20.620to computers might think it's kind of crazy that a computer could could wipe them out but it doesn't
00:54:25.620look that different from say terminator or from science fiction films it really is just if you
00:54:29.540have a super advanced intelligence it could it will be smart enough to to kill us and concrete
00:54:35.740examples might be it could we can't just unplug it because it could be copying itself over to
00:54:40.120other computers and people ate it up and then it he was saying that he was like the head of
00:54:47.100development and it turns out later that he was only there for six months and his job was pretty
00:54:53.040unimportant and he left that job completely just to switch over to working for like an ai watchdog
00:55:01.600group like he's out there crafting a narrative that serves his interests but he was like he
00:55:07.600exists to try and handicap ai development and that became clear and a lot of people like elon musk's
00:55:16.000and the sam altman's word saying that who is this guy this sounds made up it turns out it
00:55:22.360mostly was he was just making shit up but first of all what do you think about this story did0.86
00:55:29.000you hear about this story i don't get the headline because it's saying that they should regulate0.96
00:55:33.100themselves which depending on how you interpret that it could mean they should be regulated more
00:55:38.280than they are it could also mean the government should stay out of it and let them do whatever
00:55:42.600they feel right because like quote unquote self-regulation within the private sector
00:55:46.360is deregulation i mean right like they don't have the you know what i mean they don't have
00:55:50.440the legal authority to regulate each other which means it'll just be a race to the bottom uh yeah
00:55:55.640because really like even if you had a cartel which is kind of what he's advocating for holding each
00:56:02.360other to account all it would take is one ai developer not even just in america well even
00:56:08.840in a cartel like cartels don't hold themselves to account cartels spiral right like cartels fight
00:56:14.320each other until one kills the other and they're always upping the ante versus what he's describing
00:56:19.360or what i'm assuming what he's trying to say is we need to put a clamp on this and prevent it from
00:56:23.840growing well like cartelizing it won't do that cartelizing it will just make everything even0.80
00:56:28.360worse than it already is so like how the fuck do you expect these companies who are competing with
00:56:33.860other for market share if they're the only ones regulating themselves to to clamp down on it
00:56:40.260they're going to do the exact opposite and he says here here's a quote from him the people building
00:56:44.660ai earnestly believe that could kill us all by the end of the decade that is not a marketing stunt
00:56:50.180if anything many executives and senior researchers will couch their phrasing in the press to sound
00:56:55.380sensible but i hear people express fear privately no other human activity poses this level of danger
00:57:02.100which is something that it seems that the heads that is that him or is that dario that that's
00:57:07.460dario that's okay that is just like oh he looks jewish that's just so jewish very jewish you get
00:57:14.020to a level of being jewish that you get the funky colored glasses yeah it like shows up one morning
00:57:20.660and then you have them yeah he's on the brink of having orange frames but so there's a few things
00:57:29.380going on here and i've gotten into some debates with people the other day i had a legendary crash
00:57:36.660out on sean wyland in one in a group chat sean wyland who we've had on the show before but like
00:57:43.220i had to leave i was getting because he's of the mind he's he's an older he's gen x not that much0.96
00:57:49.060older highly skeptical of ai he's one of these people that says his phrase is it's a pig and a
00:57:54.980poke he's always saying it's a pig and a poke a pig and a poke which just me it what it means is
00:58:01.460something is being accepted without any evidence like it's just you're being sold a bill of guns0.99
00:58:08.420you're it's bullshit he's saying it's bullshit saying it's all a scam he's saying that all it0.99
00:58:14.020does is like repeat what you say back to you you get it like what is intelligence and i'm trying1.00
00:58:20.820to build this into what we're just talking about and a lot of people are talking about this interview
00:58:25.700with sam altman who runs open ai and uh he he was people were misquoting him or at least i believe
00:58:34.980they were because they were saying that he was saying we can lose control of ai in the next few
00:58:42.740years it's that ai doomerism it's going to be skynet it's going to be it's going to go rogue
00:58:49.380can destroy all of our systems but if the actual quote was we will lose control of the future of
00:58:55.800ai which is a purely political point and it makes sense if you know where he's coming from and he
00:59:02.340in subsequent questions and answers he says you know we're the good guys by we he means
00:59:09.900the west and specifically silicon valley technocrats he says we're on the side of humanity
00:59:15.960we can't let the future of ai be dictated by the bad guys who are the bad guys well he could be in
00:59:23.560china he can mean russia he actually could mean anyone that's the point how about how about he
00:59:27.320means people with home servers people with you know yeah yeah yeah this is the same as any other
00:59:33.220industry when they they're you know first to market and they build a moat the very next thing
00:59:38.020they do is they petition the government to make sure that no competitors can ever approach them
00:59:42.380Yeah. And some people are saying that they are inflating the concerns of an AI going rogue because that legitimizes it.
00:59:52.280It makes it seem scarier than it is. But if it's scary, it's more real. And I understand that.
00:59:58.320So a few posts have been put out by your team this week.
01:00:01.660And one of them was from a new nonprofit board member on your safety and security council who basically said,
01:00:06.440if we build superintelligence without more robust alignment, I expect we will permanently lose control of it.
01:00:11.600And if that happens, then most people could die.
01:00:14.080This is your new nonprofit board member who's now on your safety and security council saying that if things don't change, that could be problematic.
01:38:03.260So the book that I'll talk about now is called The Reckoning, Financial Accountability and the Rise and Fall of Nations.0.94
01:38:11.980So that's really the story that he's trying to tell here, going from the ancient world and Athens and the Norman Conquest,
01:38:23.100and goes goes through the french revolution goes into london it goes all over the place and shows
01:38:30.220you know historical precedent for what he's talking about here but uh it's it's like the
01:38:34.700psychological development of accountability and therefore agency and you know even nietzsche
01:38:42.860talked about this in the book the genealogy of morals which is what we're going to be
01:38:48.540covering on do you even read next week but it's like the idea of he's like he he said you can't
01:38:56.380really separate the idea of doing something good from debt like at the base of this it's it's the
01:39:03.100evolution of this concept of debt you owe someone something you do something you owe them something
01:39:08.140in return and the shame that's associated with that and the punishment that's associated with
01:39:13.500that but underneath all this is like the changing understanding of what debt is and and the
01:39:20.620increasing severity of being in debt to someone and the consequences of that and what and what
01:39:27.740does that understanding cause as a result so moving on here he says for thousands of years
01:39:33.680the ancient world was steeped in accounts but there was almost no innovation and few used the
01:39:38.220tools at their disposal as augustus did single entry accounting existed in ancient mesopotamia
01:39:44.220israel egypt china greece and rome the greeks potomac egyptians arabs reached marvelous heights
01:39:51.600of civilization and mastered numbers for geometry and astronomy but they did not manage to create
01:39:57.400double entry accounting so essential for the exact calculation of profit and loss
01:40:02.780i see and this is what was hobbling so many empires they just didn't know where the money
01:40:13.180was going there was money there the money was vanishing was being stolen he's being skimmed
01:40:18.820off the top it was being lost it'd be wasted they just didn't know how to track it because
01:40:23.000Because, you know, you see Marxism emerge at the culmination of our, not collective, but I guess, or decentralized understanding of what profit is.
01:40:37.060We've always had a concept of profit, but I don't think it was systematized.
01:40:41.560Like, I have $5. I pay $3 for this. I'm selling for $5. I get a little bit extra. That's profit.
01:40:48.140but a more advanced understanding of profit that's really what Marx was
01:40:52.940getting too much surplus value in capital but as I said you're like you
01:40:59.140don't you are suffering because you're losing money but you don't know it's
01:41:03.800because you're losing money you don't know how it's being lost you do you0.99
01:41:07.220don't have any mechanism to tell where it's fucking going which is an0.93
01:41:12.600interesting problem for like an empire to have um so continuing on here says accounting was for0.98
01:41:20.120inventorying but also for calculating surpluses of grain the very dust of civilization that brought
01:41:25.880it brought with its sedentary villages farmers farming and markets the sumerians created clay
01:41:31.960tokens for accounting in 3500 bce as in athens state accounting in rome was haphazard and fraud
01:41:39.640was common cicero complained of bad accounts and his attacks on mark antony known for his debts and
01:41:46.000shady financial dealings he claimed mark antony had kept bad account books and in doing so has
01:41:51.440squandered a countless sum of monies stolen from caesar and even forged accounts and signatures
01:41:57.340although cicero denounced bad books vice counsel mark mark antony did not go to jail which is funny
01:42:04.460Which is like, I can prove he committed financial fraud, but no one cared.0.98
01:42:08.920It's like, yeah, so what are you, fucking lying about money?1.00
01:42:23.620At the turn of the millennium, as trade increased, so did writing, records, legal transactions, and the importance of accounting.
01:42:29.740When William the Conqueror invaded England in 1066, he was presented with a novel opportunity.
01:42:37.040Taking over the whole country in one fell swoop, he could write all feudal documents from scratch,
01:42:42.180giving himself dominion over the entire country without the inevitable complications of the more conventional feudal model.
01:42:49.800The dynastic inheritances and marriages that broke up the land holdings over time,
01:42:53.920leaving hodgepodge of disputed territories.
01:42:56.680The Norman conquest of England then, with its opportunity to centralize its own administrative system, brought a proliferation of new feudal land contracts requiring both secular and ecclesiastical rulers to keep clear financial records.
01:52:17.360All major manuals on accounting from the Renaissance to the modern age are based in part of Paclioti's publication, making him the central author of the history of accounting.
01:52:29.480Paclioti's treatise came late in the game when accounting and his culture were losing prestige.
01:52:35.080It did not become one of the great books of the Renaissance with a hallowed place in humanism.
01:52:40.100a tuscan franciscan friar this guy was a franciscan friar an expert in geometry and algebra and a
01:52:46.980student of neoplatonism pecleoli came from the same world of cosmo dimici in which business was
01:52:53.940the basis of political power the basics of accounting have changed little since he printed
01:52:59.180his summa more than 500 years ago so i was really interested like just the the whole development
01:53:07.240of accounting being forwarded by guys who hated it or saw it was embarrassing like here here's a0.95
01:53:14.020franciscan friar who's just amazing at math and being like okay guys guys i know this is stupid
01:53:19.060i know this is a sin but i think we should keep accurate books of what we're spending and like
01:53:25.960they're being fought every step of the way but it but it's the entire step of the way
01:53:31.940they have to make different arguments for they need to make humanist arguments they need to
01:53:36.940make spiritual arguments they need to make like every conceit they need to encircle it0.99
01:53:42.300to convince everyone because they just think anything to do with that is is a stupid waste
01:53:48.800of time right but but the nature of these empires of these kingdoms of these city-states meant that
01:53:53.480they didn't need to track trade there's of course trade but it wasn't the level it is right now
01:54:01.060so it could you could have as long as you had self-sufficient communities cities or locations
01:54:09.400territories you didn't need to worry about this that much because you can just tell when people
01:54:13.160are starving and when they're not you can tell here are the peasants revolting they're not okay
01:54:18.640i guess everything is okay right so it wasn't until you tried to pursue more monumental goals
01:56:30.860It would be the enduring legacy of the great imperial dynasty he founded.
01:56:34.500Bankers were in short supply in Spain.
01:56:36.320So Charles put his fate in the hands of bankers from Germany, Italy, Holland, and Spain.
01:56:41.800And he set out to reorganize Spanish financial administration.
01:56:44.820Now, by the early 16th century, the Netherlands, the richest European province of the Habsburg Spanish Empire, had replaced northern Italy as the center of the international economy.
01:56:57.600In 1567, a Florentine trader described the staggering wealth of Antwerp's rich merchants, the beautiful shops, fine tapestries, grand houses, 42 churches, stock exchange, etc.
01:57:11.200It was, the Florentine noted, the richest and most beautiful city in the world.
01:57:16.840For all its riches, the Netherlands in 1567 was not a free state, but instead ruled by King Philip II of Spain.
01:57:23.800Although Flemish and Dutch subjects of the Habsburg King prospered with international banking and trade, they also had to survive Spanish taxation.
01:57:30.920and you know building on that with the proliferation of business to every level of
01:57:37.620dutch society there was a general consensus that double entry accounting was necessary knowledge
01:57:42.480from street vendors to even prostitutes to merchants and nobles the dutch needed to know
01:57:48.660double entry accounting to navigate their little oasis of commerce and tolerance with publicly