Blood Satellite - June 05, 2026


How Would you Feel if you Didn't (Generational Penis Game) (Waisian Gattaca) This Morning?


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Length

3 hours and 14 minutes

Words per minute

167.21

Word count

32,562

Sentence count

526


Transcript

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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be
00:00:07.720 blood satellite so how about george foyd
00:00:21.000 that's your opener eh how about george foyd where are we gonna go with this one
00:00:28.180 I can't decide.
00:00:41.600 I'm trying to unpack that.
00:00:43.960 Because like under normal circumstances,
00:00:47.100 Floyd could breathe.
00:00:48.920 But under normal circumstances,
00:00:51.060 Floyd cannot decide.
00:00:52.360 So wouldn't it be I can decide
00:00:54.100 if you have your neck on a woman,
00:00:56.180 your knee on a woman's neck,
00:00:57.560 suddenly she can make a decision there are layers to it there's a lot going on there yeah i'm glad
00:01:03.520 you're here because in my head in my pinhead i'm just thinking that's funny but you're thinking
00:01:08.020 no that that's it we gotta work it that's everything unpeel that onion yeah and glare
00:01:16.940 the singularity inside and can i say if you did have your knee on a woman's neck to force her to
00:01:23.280 make a decision would that be chauvinistic i can't believe no one's brought this up before
00:01:32.300 i feel like you set that up is is is no one doing this is it are we doing everything
00:01:38.540 no one else is doing chauvinistic no one else is doing june george foy
00:01:42.900 what the fuck have we been doing guess what bad news i'm him
00:01:50.360 you know i set myself up a failure last episode i did what i never should do and what a good host
00:02:01.920 ought not to do i utter the phrase correct me if i'm wrong no and this was in regard to
00:02:11.560 data centers we we went off on data centers we were go we're hemming and hawing
00:02:17.060 and uh i i read a few things you read a few things a lot of people read a lot of things
00:02:22.100 i said correct me if i'm wrong i don't know if they're that bad turns out they're real fucking
00:02:29.260 bad yeah because you you made uh if we're tallying it up put numbers up on the board i think you made
00:02:36.980 more better overall points um and uh you know i was just saying like you know it's
00:02:43.760 is it like a 5g tower it is you see i i was inundated with clips and videos and accounts
00:02:53.160 of what it's like to live near these places blinding light at all hours a constant hum
00:03:00.200 it sounds like a creepypasta it sounds like they made they made a shadowy building that just
00:03:05.880 whispers in a small town this is the one place you shouldn't build this like we did make the
00:03:11.480 joke that they should be in cities because they're attuned to that sort of thing but then it is the
00:03:16.480 groundwater and i'm reading stories about one day a center that was just illegally pulling water
00:03:21.360 and shit and like just doing stuff they're not supposed to do yeah they're saying you're using
00:03:25.800 a lot of water but then you just double that and you didn't tell us and now we don't have water
00:03:29.040 yeah and just in messing with people's thoughts you think okay here goes dimes back on his
00:03:35.400 bullshit but why not why not i'm open to hear if i'm open to hear about fucking windmills causing
00:03:43.800 you know bird vaccine related injuries i'm open to why am i not to hear this it turns out data
00:03:50.880 centers suck and it also turns out that you were right most of them just straight up aren't being
00:03:55.520 built and just like windmills this is this is money changing hands this is people getting scammed
00:04:01.740 half of u.s data centers planned for 2026 are expected to be delayed or canceled breaking news
00:04:10.000 on the bloomberg terminal oracle and open ai are apparently ending plans to expand that texas data
00:04:16.860 center site considering that in 2025 more money was spent building data centers than on housing
00:04:22.160 construction this is a big deal it i just want to let people know that i've come to terms that
00:04:28.880 with the fact that it is all the bad things all at once uh maybe in a way never seen before
00:04:36.080 so i even had a video here um it was this was just posted on youtube uh 12 days ago why tech
00:04:46.880 companies are quietly canceling ai data centers and so it's like all these contracts just going
00:04:53.260 under the gpu demand surges um it's just that the tech not keeping pace with what's available
00:05:01.600 semiconductor supply chain like they just can't build the stuff they can build they can put
00:05:07.980 they never they never they never could have built the stuff it was not in the cards for
00:05:12.280 most of this to happen and i think they knew that they somebody must have known that only a small
00:05:18.420 fraction of us will get out of here with our shirts at best they just all thought that it
00:05:23.120 was going to be them you know what i mean it's like i'm looking at a data center construction
00:05:27.020 site right here um and uh i'm looking at just they built a bunch of things you have to build
00:05:33.720 a lot of things to build a big thing so you have a lot of poured concrete a lot of steel scaffolding
00:05:40.040 and a lot of like already you know concrete sucking up local water and just desert in the
00:05:47.440 background of course and nothing's being built but i do see a a small lake of black viscous liquid
00:05:54.420 just in the middle and that's not oil so i'm like you don't have a day center but you still have all
00:05:59.680 this stuff you built and what looks to be ground that can never sustain life anymore and you didn't
00:06:07.440 even build the thing it's supposed to be just you build a you built a back rooms yeah the the top
00:06:13.340 the top rooms the back the backyards what what if it's the back rooms but outside which i guess
00:06:18.980 would be the back room yeah the back the back 40 i have described the outside i i have in fact
00:06:25.220 described the outdoors yeah you go out there's trees and you turn around there's more trees is
00:06:31.380 it the same tree or a different tree i i don't know i can't tell is there a thing in there's
00:06:35.360 there a thing around the corner yeah it's that there's always stuff around the corner outside
00:06:39.280 but um i gotta see that movie it's like homework backrooms yeah right yeah is it like i mean yeah
00:06:49.560 i mean culturally you kind of have to see it um it's like uh joker i guess the joker was okay
00:06:55.460 so i mean let's see it joke joker was good joker 2 was not good and so i think that
00:07:01.240 ruined films what do you think backrooms 2 is gonna be like you think i i guess they would
00:07:07.460 probably would have to do it the woman survived she comes back and now she's a she has a lesbian
00:07:12.420 wife who keeps like drawing the dialogue back to something unrelated uh bakka rumenson she's
00:07:25.220 bakka rumenstein she she gets a lesbian at right at the end
00:07:31.380 the mid-credit sequence is her getting a girlfriend yeah no indication that was going
00:07:36.500 going to happen for the rest of the film they they're like well marvel does this they made
00:07:41.860 baby yoda trans like after not even like a second after did they make baby yoda trans uh mind you i
00:07:50.900 did make that up no i have to live with that now that that is just a thing that i said that is not
00:07:58.880 real but maybe that's up beyond them verner herzog's not in those films anymore so they can
00:08:06.900 do whatever they want true he's the only one keeping people honest on set um but yeah i i
00:08:13.120 want to see i gotta wait till things are leaked i gotta wait till they're on torrents like i don't
00:08:17.860 go to theaters like i actually think the last time i went to a theater might have been joker
00:08:23.660 damn i went to a movie theater the other day to buy popcorn and leave
00:08:29.200 they figured i know it was one of the dumbest things i've ever done but i just liked it well
00:08:36.720 because i've never taken nickels to a movie theater oh okay but he's aware of them so i
00:08:40.740 went to the lobby i'm like this this is what it is you know you know the town that you know the
00:08:46.220 town the theater the cineplex you and i used to always go to i take took the girls there a few
00:08:50.860 times before we'd ever been to a theater just to go to the arcade yeah just like walk around go to
00:08:54.780 the arcade look at the big posters like wow it's so exciting yeah but we're not gonna see a movie
00:08:58.320 like you're fucking three years old because also no one's in here to watch a movie it's just us
00:09:02.720 and then like 15 staff yeah heavily overstaffed no one's watching a film yeah also they don't tell
00:09:09.740 you what films are there anymore they used to just have it on the outside i sound old this is this is
00:09:15.580 an old man thing to say of course they don't put it on the marquee anymore how am i supposed to know
00:09:20.820 digital ticket machines yeah just no one's buying tickets and i'm just lamenting it to my
00:09:26.960 three-year-old son who doesn't give a fuck he's never even had popcorn before so like there's a
00:09:31.760 lot of firsts here but we actually took him to see here's the thing we took him to see one of
00:09:38.400 those um what do you call like a matinee but a kid's matinee yeah uh where parents take very
00:09:43.400 young children to see a disney film because he'd never been to a theater we thought let's take him
00:09:47.580 with a big screen and seeing something that he'll kind of understand and we picked monsters inc
00:09:53.180 which he actually hadn't seen before he'd only listened to the audiobook version of it yeah but
00:09:59.060 he hadn't seen it i'm like this is a strange first movie to take him to see because it is a very
00:10:04.760 troubling uh concept that there's monsters in your room that's never occurred to him before
00:10:10.200 so i'm introducing him to that and it kind of starts off kind of creepy and the bad guy's still
00:10:15.660 giant spider monster a lot of stuff's going on poor decision poor parenting um but the other
00:10:20.940 thing i noticed was i'm like okay this is the movie you take your kids to like very like toddlers
00:10:26.380 it's a toddler film right but i'm noticing there's parents with like 12 year olds in there i mean
00:10:31.980 you're too old go to a regular movie this is this is the one they set up for kids where they're just
00:10:38.060 like eat eating cereal and yelling and running around and but you're just you're you brought
00:10:43.740 like a 13 year old birthday party here just to save money again this is old manship but i'm also
00:10:50.300 like stop being so poor just around me it's supposed to be that throws off the vibe it
00:11:00.220 throws off the mojo quit trying to be regular in my in my poor matinee my poor man matinee
00:11:07.020 yeah like mr yeah stop being slightly poor than this poor man's option yeah there's nothing worse
00:11:15.900 than being impoverished and which and witnessing destitution yeah sucks like you're you're in
00:11:23.260 prison and you look over and you see a concentration camp next door and you go oh come on yuck
00:11:30.140 give me a break look looking through the bars every single thing going enough okay couldn't
00:11:36.220 you just wait looking through the bars into the concentration game must you
00:11:43.660 looking around over my shoulder must they
00:11:50.540 i'm imagining this in an all-white prison like they used to be
00:11:54.940 all-white prison must have been great to go to you know what i mean well like they just execute
00:11:58.940 everyone else no i just i feel like if you went to prison in the 40s you you ran this is based on
00:12:07.340 nothing i think it might have been a lot of italians and dagos and whoever in there in the
00:12:11.820 40s yeah like in canada especially but if you're in the south of america you're gonna have a lot
00:12:17.020 of blacks in there as well but yeah i don't know i just have this image in my head of like going to
00:12:20.540 to jail yeah if it's all white guys jail with a g i think i'm doing i think i'm doing okay yeah
00:12:27.580 if i may i think i'm thriving hell yeah if it's an old white guy jail yeah buddy might be all right
00:12:34.200 actually but if you go there and it's like half blacks like that's all anyone's scared of you
00:12:39.140 know okay i don't know if i'm imagining this but every media present like um representation of a
00:12:45.920 jail where it's all just like guys sucking their lips and spitting and fighting seems to be like
00:12:52.840 a mixed race jail but all the representations of like guys stamping license plates and fucking
00:12:58.160 working seems to be white guys yeah i don't know if that's just me but it's like i could
00:13:04.440 is i i don't understand if it's part of the punishment to not give people work
00:13:09.500 because men love we love work like you give us something to do i don't know why it's not obvious
00:13:15.500 that like everybody wins if you give us something to do it was my understanding that you had to
00:13:20.300 due to your good behavior there's certain jobs you could get like you could oh right because
00:13:26.440 they see i wasn't even thinking about getting paid just like here's a thing you're gonna do
00:13:30.900 or we're gonna whip you but then you do it and then you feel better because you're doing a thing
00:13:34.860 you get something like 15 cents an hour they give you something it's negligible but if you're there
00:13:40.100 long enough you might leave with a few thousand smokes at the end of the week yeah or you save it
00:13:45.220 all to the end and you get like about two grand or something i don't know i'm making numbers up
00:13:49.660 of course yeah but um yeah because you're around machinery so they need to be sure that you're
00:13:54.840 someone that's not going to use that machinery to fashion a weapon that makes sense that's probably
00:13:58.820 part of it i also think it's due to niggers being lazy that's what i was getting at is that you
00:14:05.200 wouldn't be able to get niggers who are there for like triple homicide to actually do any
00:14:11.200 productive labor who are by the way in prison making the exact same type of food they would
00:14:17.940 eat outside of prison it's not you've been watching this new food that's sweeping the hood
00:14:22.980 it's pineapple chunks in uh containers like plastic containers that they just sell them on
00:14:30.760 the corner filled with kool-aid and uh and jolly ranchers so like it's like a preserve in a sense
00:14:40.800 but it's in like a mixed
00:14:42.560 an empty mixed nuts container
00:14:44.820 and it's just like
00:14:46.220 pineapple brined in
00:14:48.680 Kool-Aid. It's the perfect
00:14:50.080 black food because it's both fat and
00:14:52.760 gay. And of course there's just videos
00:14:54.800 of them just like eating it with their
00:14:56.860 like lips protruding going
00:14:58.120 mmm
00:14:58.900 yes dude smack
00:15:03.020 in the lips
00:15:03.660 like
00:15:06.400 they just encountered an oasis
00:15:09.040 in the desert you've never seen such relish and i'm looking at this thing i bet this tastes like
00:15:16.020 i'm imagining it tastes like i bet it tastes like a lot of fucking kool-aid and pineapple
00:15:20.780 yeah i saw a couple clips and i kind of threw off in my mouth a little bit i can't imagine
00:15:24.980 and there's some kind of and i'm just talking out of my hat on this but you know we're pretty
00:15:31.580 good on race science over here and uh i noticed that there's a lot of videos circulating
00:15:36.520 deep hood stuff stuff that doesn't really make it in in front of general audiences but it was
00:15:42.540 blacks especially like very dark african-y blacks they eat cornstarch just raw cornstarch yes i
00:15:52.160 saw that yeah but there's a there's a name for there's some kind of chemical imbalance or just
00:15:59.240 some kind of malady they get that makes them predisposed to eating cornstarch that's all i
00:16:05.560 know but it's it's it's just like something they all have it's like a parasite they'll have because
00:16:11.700 i'm like i can't imagine eating that now like eating flour to me it's just unreal man yeah i
00:16:17.240 just get a dry mouth to start coughing and say this this is a memory of a memory of a cake i'm
00:16:23.820 very frustrated like eating eating flour what do you mean when you use the flour in your mouth it's
00:16:28.080 like a lower form dinosaur version of a cake yeah because it's like you're making the cake in your
00:16:33.360 mouth kind of what does a dinosaur do it'll fuck you up brother yeah you see the velociraptor
00:16:39.380 man alive oh shit oh shit just a guy late in life like if you see the fucking velociraptor
00:16:49.120 holy mackinaw
00:16:52.000 you know something funny i saw i came across a circus
00:16:59.980 near where i live yeah a real proper just viewed from the outside the big top a big top
00:17:08.780 and on the side of it i can just see this from a distance i don't know what's really going on
00:17:14.760 inside there i just see on the side there's a big stenciled clown's face and has the phrase
00:17:22.580 100% human.
00:17:28.980 No.
00:17:30.520 No.
00:17:31.800 Just, okay, look.
00:17:34.660 I'm not
00:17:35.480 a Reddit guy, but that is not
00:17:37.480 something they put beside a clown's face.
00:17:40.020 No, no, no, no.
00:17:41.760 Now, I think I know what they're
00:17:43.420 trying to say. I think what they're
00:17:45.420 trying to say is that there's no animals in here.
00:17:48.180 That it's a circus, but
00:17:49.400 we don't have the elephant. There are other ways
00:17:51.520 to say that i know it's a hundred percent that is no matter what you're trying to say that's the
00:17:56.800 most inhuman way of saying it it's right above the hot dog vendor you could also say it's only humans
00:18:02.680 yeah or human a humane circus a hundred percent human you could just say humane it's a humane
00:18:10.780 circuit like we all get it it's going to be human performers like because because they're also
00:18:17.020 looking at clown the clowns are inhumane as well so they know what else you could do you could just
00:18:20.820 not fucking say anything and just assume that there's no animals and if people want to look
00:18:25.100 it up they can look it up but yeah because they don't have no who who has animals anymore we've
00:18:29.900 tried taking the kids to circuses they don't do animals they even the fucking zoos man a lot of
00:18:34.320 the zoos are shutting down now it's a fucking disgrace yeah what's wrong with zoos i thought
00:18:40.100 that was the last safe thing for kids no no they don't like it you remember the zoo the zoo i can
00:18:45.740 always talk about our hometown the zoo in not our hometown but the neighboring town where they had
00:18:49.400 the zoo and they used to run the elephants around that's a fucking trailer park now it's gone it's
00:18:54.880 a trailer park i kept thinking like i gotta take my kids there i know same i remember when i was
00:18:59.440 when i was even when i was living in hong kong i'm like when i get back i want to take my kids
00:19:02.620 there nope it's a fucking trailer park now they literally like knocked all the walls and the
00:19:06.340 enclosures over and bulldozed it into like gravel and it's a trailer park and it was because of the
00:19:10.560 fucking elephants and the giraffes which they would literally parade around town on like the
00:19:15.280 market days to show it i think fucking i think the animals loved it right you can't tell me that
00:19:20.460 elephants being as social as they are don't like going around town and talking to people i don't
00:19:23.960 fucking know i actually i actually don't know but i think that's ridiculous that you would shut and
00:19:28.660 what you probably turned the fucking elephant into glue where'd you send them india yeah everyone
00:19:33.740 says these animals are better in the wild now if you say that about a cheetah i get that because
00:19:38.820 they need insane territory to run elephants are doing fuck all hippos can suck a dick you've seen
00:19:46.660 what a hippo does it does the same thing in the zoo that's doing on the savannah it's got like
00:19:52.240 a square mile no not even that it's got a neighborhood like a block city block a place
00:20:00.180 it just mills around it sits in the mud all day and it yawns and that's it that's it you can do
00:20:06.660 that anywhere the mud's better over here you get premium mud i'll give you watermelon there's no
00:20:11.580 watermelon over there it's in africa and all all the black people ate them all nothing for the
00:20:18.040 hippos like what's a drag giraffes they fuck around they don't really do much you're telling
00:20:24.620 me that an elephant and of course an elephant likes being around people more because people
00:20:29.220 are interesting people are consequential and it's smart enough to know that it's like when a whale
00:20:34.760 sees us a whale is is wise enough to say oh this nigga's in scuba gear that looks impressive
00:20:42.540 i'm gonna i'm gonna get on their good side i don't know how to communicate to them but
00:20:48.680 this will pay off one day elephants love it other do you think an elephant just wants to
00:20:53.700 just stomp around in the dust nah fuck that get out of here you can have whatever food he wants
00:21:00.020 it's going around town it's in the market the police it's got a police escort
00:21:04.820 if it's in a small town like what we're talking about there's no there's no africans they must
00:21:11.340 love that imagine being an elephant and you say wow there's no africans literally elephant heaven
00:21:16.880 yes yeah we we have no use for ivory we could probably integrate elephants into our civilian
00:21:24.020 society better than africans i'll imagine if every 200 africans that we had was just they were gone
00:21:30.860 and they were replaced with a single african elephant yeah could you imagine if we replaced
00:21:34.460 every black person with an elephant is that what you just said yeah well 200 to one but because i
00:21:39.560 mean because i mean like you know 70 million elephants would be a lot but yeah you know what
00:21:45.360 i'd take i'd figure that out we'd figure it out we'd be eating elephant a lot that's for sure
00:21:50.000 just yeah he can't eat black guy
00:21:52.600 not with that attitude
00:21:56.060 because they're eating the fucking pineapple and the fucking
00:21:58.320 jolly ranchers
00:21:59.080 you get contact diabetes
00:22:02.440 did we want to talk about
00:22:06.260 my encounter
00:22:07.880 with the aboriginal woman
00:22:10.400 in the streets
00:22:11.340 yes I heard that recorded
00:22:13.860 so let's hear it
00:22:15.160 so I'm out with
00:22:17.840 my son
00:22:19.340 early morning just i think it was on the weekend taking him for just a walk around this area we
00:22:25.940 like to walk in and not a lot of people around and he's walking ahead of me and i'm on my phone
00:22:33.060 on leaving a message for judas on some unrelated project that we're working on and you know it's
00:22:38.740 on telegram so you have to hold down the button to record yourself no you don't you don't you
00:22:45.580 press with your finger and you flick up and then it stays i i've been pressing it down the entire
00:22:50.460 time are you are you messing don't don't don't try it right now don't try it right now humiliation
00:22:59.020 i don't know like maybe that's like the rotary dial to me like that's i like knowing that i'm
00:23:02.940 recording in fairness i only figured that out a year or so ago after doing it your way for a long
00:23:08.780 time well that's a year earlier that's 365 days of me doing this anyway so i am still holding it
00:23:17.360 down and uh i'm just you know recording and my son's near me and this woman's walking by and
00:23:23.700 she looks to be an older aboriginal woman very small very skinny no teeth in her head and that's
00:23:30.120 how you know she's aboriginal because you know they get into the drugs they get into the chugging
00:23:35.800 of the listerine and they lose their teeth really quickly anyway she's yelling something to me
00:23:41.780 across and i'm sort of ignoring it but then she's you know getting closer but at a distance and
00:23:48.340 she's asking is that your son and i've got a recording of this the reason i'm saying because
00:23:53.140 i kept my finger on the recording yeah yeah so the entire exchange that's about to happen
00:23:58.720 is in my phone and i'll probably post some of it you should you should do it as crimes chat on this
00:24:04.580 episode i think i will but it's uh you kind of need to know what's going on before you listen
00:24:10.180 to it because i i the record might just be me screaming just yelling as as i'm recording this
00:24:16.400 she she's saying is that your son i say yeah yeah yeah and then i'm i'm always in the process of
00:24:21.860 turning away from her because i think that's it and she still keeps talking and she's saying oh
00:24:26.460 i didn't know that was your son i didn't i didn't think that was your son like well it is you know
00:24:32.580 she's building up to something and then a long story short she says oh because i i saw you i
00:24:39.480 saw you on the list of canada's top pedophiles she's looking at what and and i'm i'm still kind
00:24:47.940 of half taught i'm having two conversations once like what are you talking huh she said yeah you're
00:24:52.300 you're number 500 on the top pedophiles of canada and by this point my son he can clock that
00:24:59.320 something strange is going on and he's concerned and you know i'm but i'm not worried about him at
00:25:05.920 this point now i'm just pissed off at this fucking bitch and so she keeps she won't go away and she's
00:25:11.900 kind of getting closer and it ends up with me just screaming get the fuck out of here you stupid
00:25:16.360 fucking cunt
00:25:17.280 CRIMES CHECK
00:25:26.780 What? He's my fucking son. All right.
00:25:33.680 Yes
00:25:38.980 What
00:25:41.820 You haven't seen me on YouTube fuck off fuck off
00:25:47.280 You're on the number, I think it's 500, number nine.
00:25:52.080 Eat shit, fuck off, crazy cunt.
00:25:55.500 Get the fuck out of here.
00:25:58.080 Get the fuck out of here, you stupid cunt.
00:26:00.840 It's okay, buddy. It's okay.
00:26:06.000 Shut the fuck up.
00:26:08.340 It's okay, buddy.
00:26:09.460 It's okay.
00:26:09.860 Which is not what you're supposed to do.
00:26:17.280 that's well you can't i mean but here's no one does because p i've been in this situation before
00:26:22.980 where i've just unloaded on homeless person someone that's in my you know a cyclist who
00:26:29.560 did the wrong thing but cyclists never think they do the wrong thing like i've gotten into it with
00:26:33.440 people many times in public but people look at you it's like i don't know if people are taught
00:26:39.160 this in school where if there's a fight between two kids both of them are at fault they don't
00:26:44.040 care who started it right just the fact that you're in a fight means you're both culpable
00:26:48.260 i never liked that like i didn't do anything wrong she's accusing me of being a child rapist
00:26:55.060 i should be able to do a few things back right and it's proportional she literally walked up
00:27:01.700 to a stranger with his with his son and accused him of being a pedophile like you're at the very
00:27:07.120 least it would be proportional to call her a like racist mean sexist words right and i don't even
00:27:14.280 think it would be untoward to escalate to physical violence you know what i mean just hold on for a
00:27:20.820 second the in cases where someone is outed publicly as a pedophile that very often leads to physical
00:27:27.820 violence against that person like you actually you could argue that you're essentially in a
00:27:32.040 self-defense situation if somebody walks up to you and say hey everyone this man is a pedophile
00:27:36.200 and he's abducted this child who is actually your child that's a fucking self-defense situation
00:27:42.240 well and that's saying because she's out there in the street we're in public now and she's just
00:27:47.300 saying she's out there like a ways away now but just yelling shit so i don't know if she's telling
00:27:52.160 random people there's a pedophile over there and when you're just a father on your own with a kid
00:27:59.220 as unfortunate as it may sound people do look at it differently than if you're a mother of the
00:28:05.580 i get that all the time yeah i i get it i'm not you know saying woe is me of course but i do have
00:28:12.860 to keep that in mind where i need to you know telegraph that this is my son so it doesn't seem
00:28:17.880 like i'm following him you know i gotta you know just little things little things because
00:28:22.880 you know we're we're all fucking hysterical about pedophiles as we should be but it did occur to me
00:28:29.700 that i don't know if a couple things here one she's schizophrenic right and people use that to
00:28:37.220 dismiss her as if she should be allowed but my view is that if you are a schizophrenic or you
00:28:43.560 have any mental illness that makes it more likely that you're to do that i'm just going to treat you
00:28:48.900 like an animal what do we do about an animal that does that we do about a horse that you know bites
00:28:54.960 a boy's arm. What do you do
00:28:56.680 with a sheep that won't stop
00:28:58.860 farting? You shoot them in the
00:29:00.920 back of the fucking head. Like, if you're such
00:29:02.900 a freak, that you're
00:29:05.000 doing stuff like this and marching around
00:29:06.900 in your underwear and accusing people of stuff
00:29:08.960 and you're of no use to society,
00:29:11.060 we should just liquidate you.
00:29:13.280 Yes. I have zero
00:29:14.840 sympathy for that.
00:29:16.820 Like, if you get Alzheimer's and you turn into
00:29:18.980 a rapist, do you
00:29:20.900 get forgiven for that?
00:29:22.720 No. Has it ever happened? You have dementia
00:29:24.940 and you start just stabbing people and raping people like yeah so if you if you rape somebody
00:29:31.080 right the only reason and this is my i don't know why this isn't the view the only reason we even
00:29:37.380 have prison is the the argument that it's possible you could be rehabilitated but for people who
00:29:44.680 have no control over their actions apparently well then they can't be rehabilitated so you just put
00:29:50.540 them out to pasture right like the fact that we somehow spend more money rehabilitating the crazy
00:29:56.080 ones is beyond me i don't know why we don't just euthanize them right because it is and it isn't
00:30:00.120 really an execution it's euthanization because the thing that's wrong with you actually can't
00:30:05.400 be fixed and for that reason you're actually a danger to society so we're gonna have to we're
00:30:10.240 gonna liquidate you dude yeah just imagine what calamities would befall me legally if you know
00:30:18.560 I'm in front of her and my hands
00:30:21.060 were really really
00:30:23.180 really big like the size of cars
00:30:25.380 and I just bring them down
00:30:27.060 and I crumple her up like a piece of paper
00:30:29.080 crumple like
00:30:31.160 yep and I take her and I go
00:30:32.760 plink and throw her
00:30:34.960 in the distance
00:30:38.900 right in the ocean
00:30:39.840 what would happen to me?
00:30:42.860 a couple of three things I think
00:30:45.060 I'm not allowed to do that
00:30:46.360 because we don't live in a society we don't live in a society what what do they call this
00:30:52.260 anarcho-tyranny or some shit there it is yeah that's anarcho-tyranny you're that you're not
00:30:56.800 you're allowed to be harassed by her but you're not allowed to throw her in the creek
00:31:00.640 the cruel reality of anarcho-tyranny was is that if even in an all-white society anarcho-tyranny
00:31:07.240 would be better like if we were held captive by just the the most degenerate whites it would still
00:31:12.700 be preferable because then that would just be like you know wigger culture that would be turbo
00:31:17.620 wigger america which would be sick because i would i would take that over black intellectuals
00:31:25.300 any day of the week just be among your people for the first time yeah it would just be like
00:31:30.620 juggalos kid rock fans margaritaville all that those are great slipknot fans yeah all of it
00:31:41.460 together very mask heavy very wild shirt heavy people and chains they all got chains on
00:31:49.380 it's the white guys with the chains running running the show
00:31:53.820 real wigger nationalism has never been tried
00:31:58.020 and that's okay we don't have to guys we can leave it that way
00:32:03.900 my nigga that shit groid slop you like because you's a boy god
00:32:10.440 My shooters consume slop tent
00:32:13.260 You can't cause you are not sick
00:32:16.220 You probably have a blocked dick
00:32:19.180 You probably call your plop shit
00:32:22.100 You acting like a novice
00:32:25.080 I act like I'm abolished
00:32:28.040 I act like I'm a dog, bitch
00:32:33.920 My mans, we stack that margarine
00:32:36.760 Yo, algorithms chop, nigga
00:32:39.680 My mind right game is polished
00:32:42.520 You probably think I'm a gay nigga
00:32:48.460 Guess what, I am a gay nigga
00:32:51.400 You finna catch a fade nigga
00:32:54.340 From gloves that made a suede nigga
00:32:57.300 But the other thing I wanted to say was that
00:33:01.380 This is the very bottom of the normalization
00:33:06.220 Of the pedophile discourse
00:33:08.180 it's it's gone a bit too far she shouldn't be aware that there's like pedophile websites like
00:33:14.860 in goofbusters and like the you know chris hansen types and she shouldn't know about that she should
00:33:20.600 just be thinking about you know the cia laser and shit in her mind but now it's like it's almost
00:33:25.580 everyone's talking about it and like women are accusing women are accusing men of being pedophiles
00:33:31.920 every single day over nothing it's right right and the funny thing is about those um you know the
00:33:37.780 not the chris hansen ones but the ones i'm sure you know are in our space they get passed around
00:33:41.820 more it's like guys finding a fucking packy who raped a kid and just beating him up in the street
00:33:46.540 um what you're dealing with at a top you know level categorically you're dealing with like a
00:33:52.000 public nuisance and so this woman harassing you is more adjacent to that than probably anybody in
00:33:59.940 that park that day right she's the alcoholic drug addled you know stinky public nuisance
00:34:06.760 who nobody wants there and everybody wishes would just fucking die and go away and yet she's the one
00:34:13.500 who's calling random strangers out for being pedophile so you're right it's it's come so far
00:34:18.000 around the curve that you literally have the people who are one step away from being the
00:34:22.220 pedophiles pedophiles themselves calling people in the street and yeah that's yeah a lot there's
00:34:28.580 other hurtful implications of what she said and i'm fighting the intrusive arguments that i was
00:34:35.040 when i respond she's saying i'm number 500 on the list i want to ask out of 500
00:34:40.300 like am i at the bottom of the list fuck because the problem is that's also weirdly specific
00:34:47.900 like that's that's what concerns me that someone hears that and she said oh she's got a number if
00:34:53.720 she just said he's like canada's top yeah file of course not but look at him do you think he's in
00:34:59.240 the bottom percentile?
00:35:01.460 Maybe we all kind of look like
00:35:03.760 we are.
00:35:05.520 Does every guy, you know,
00:35:07.280 he'd be like the lowest level
00:35:09.320 pedophile? If you say that, you'd look at it
00:35:11.660 like, I guess I could see it.
00:35:18.780 16 check with Slovakia.
00:35:20.240 He ain't got shit on me!
00:35:22.500 I wanted to
00:35:23.060 mention something else that is unrelated
00:35:25.640 to what I was talking about.
00:35:26.780 But I got in the habit of talking about employment news over the past couple episodes, stuff my wife was experiencing recently.
00:35:35.380 Just checking out what's out there in the job market, hearing about, you know, we mentioned the marketplace is flooded because everyone's getting replaced by AI.
00:35:45.580 You know, we might talk about that in a second, but a debate I got into.
00:35:50.220 But anyway, like Facebook laid off another 30,000 people because they just said, oh, it's going to be AI now.
00:35:57.840 We're doing that.
00:35:59.260 But one thing I noticed was I was interviewing for this job that was pretty good.
00:36:05.760 And one thing they're asking for now is a full stack marketer.
00:36:10.440 And you never see them hiring for that before.
00:36:13.140 It's always very specialized.
00:36:14.900 Your job is doing a very specific thing.
00:36:16.680 And you've done that for like 15 years.
00:36:18.820 Sometimes it's very technical.
00:36:20.220 like uh you know media buying can get very very you're dealing with millions and millions of
00:36:25.000 dollars of budgets it's highly technical you can lose a lot of money very fast if you fuck it up
00:36:29.580 but it's the first time i'd seen like oh we just need like someone who's good at everything
00:36:34.460 which actually my resume is kind of aligned with that which has always worked against me
00:36:39.660 that i've worked at a bunch of different agencies doing a bunch of different things
00:36:42.560 um but now they're looking for that and then i'm uh i'm interviewing there and it's very clear that
00:36:49.360 what they want me to do is to just get in there and make a series of automated processes driven
00:36:57.120 by ai and also managed ai agents just to do everything and all the tasks all the everything
00:37:05.040 i'll basically make an ai marketing department with the um the goal of making myself obsolete
00:37:13.040 right you know you hear about this in other works like you're made to hire you make you hire your
00:37:18.480 replacement after you've been there for 10 years but i never encountered it where you're being
00:37:24.080 hired on to immediately replace yourself like there for six months and they'll be like oh now
00:37:29.680 we have this entire environment that you made we can actually get anyone to do this go you
00:37:34.160 we're gonna hire someone for like 35k a year but i'm like that that's what you know going in
00:37:41.680 and i'm like that is grim like people being hired to like replace themselves i don't know what to do
00:37:48.080 with that and that's like we're we're in trouble right now what do you think about that just off
00:37:52.160 the off the ramp i think it and i have been talking about this for a long time in one shade
00:38:00.320 or another it is we're in a uh tumultuous moment or we're in a we're in a big shift right now
00:38:06.320 towards a material economy and secondarily kind of a knowledge economy but i wouldn't call it
00:38:12.960 knowledge economy because like obviously just raw knowledge you kind of have that with the internet
00:38:16.880 and with everything else you can always fucking look it up it's more like a wisdom or like an
00:38:20.460 iq economy the ability to solve problems in a hard situation when you don't have 5g um because
00:38:28.420 because anybody can fucking do that right anybody with balls and an internet connection can down
00:38:36.520 now do most of this stuff and everybody like we've all been flattened any of us that were
00:38:41.420 working service to the extent that our job was service where we had a moat that was like a piece
00:38:46.420 of software or you know we actually do like for example like i i use fusion 360 i have like 15
00:38:53.360 years of fusion 360 experience or like as long as the fucking software goes back i don't remember
00:38:57.260 how long it goes back the point is it's that's automated now you can get plugins for fusion 360
00:39:02.500 that will take text prompts and design the file for you so my skill in that is no longer useful
00:39:08.000 my skill is understanding actual part design right not understanding the software but understanding
00:39:14.360 why a design should be the way it is, why it works.
00:39:17.900 And that has to do with, in my case, PCBAs or furniture
00:39:21.400 or something else that's material and industry specific, right?
00:39:24.600 So that wisdom or that experience
00:39:26.380 is the only thing that's currency anymore.
00:39:28.920 I'm sorry if I'm going on a tangent.
00:39:30.960 No, no, because this is going to lead into the thing
00:39:32.740 I bring up next, because you have mentioned this before.
00:39:35.900 And I want to refer this to an argument I got into
00:39:39.960 with a good friend that we both know.
00:39:42.040 i believe he goes by skookum actual oh yeah okay yeah i know i'm aware of him you're aware of him
00:39:49.480 but uh you know i i've been talking for a while and um we it was the same debate that you'll see
00:39:56.840 in these spaces a lot someone starts complaining about what i was complaining about which is you
00:40:02.760 know white collar jobs service industry jobs even very technical jobs because i think this
00:40:07.880 is hitting engineers too like anything that's design based architecture i have to assume it's
00:40:14.440 gonna that's further down the pipeline but at some point um and they're saying you know if anyone's
00:40:21.320 worth a damn he's got to get into trades got to get into blue collar work you know you can punch
00:40:26.440 your own ticket he's i'm not i'm paraphrasing what he said but you've heard this a lot before
00:40:32.040 it might as well have been copy and pasted i'm not saying this in a disparaging way but i've
00:40:35.800 i've just heard it before where he's like you know you you guys you you tech bros you finance
00:40:42.000 bros you were making all this money and now you're not but if you were just got into trades you'd be
00:40:46.620 making way more money and i i said i'm just gotta stop you there i said i gotta stop you there even
00:40:52.740 though he made the post in full right i was gonna stop you there look i've worked in marketing for
00:40:59.800 a long time but i also worked in construction for a while and i also worked in kitchens that's kind
00:41:05.420 of a trade people don't see it as a trade but it's like a hard skill that you know it's it's
00:41:11.940 always going to be in need in some way or another but i'm like i i've worked blue collar i worked on
00:41:17.080 job sites and you're not gonna sell me on this honor and valor blue collar work i know how broke
00:41:25.400 everyone is see the problem is that when people talk about trades get into the trades they talk
00:41:32.120 about like you can make you're making crazy money immediately no you're not like 90 i'm gonna just
00:41:38.000 say a number but it's 90 of blue collar work is digging a fucking ditch hammering a nail into a
00:41:44.900 fucking shingle driving a truck back and forth you've seen lifers who still do this i know guys
00:41:50.540 who are in their 50s and that you just you're in stasis and you're making no money and then your
00:41:56.460 body's given out but it's the same level of blue collar job as white collar because most white
00:42:02.720 collars are cogs in the machine most blue collars are all not all but most are just cogs in the
00:42:07.980 machine it's very rare that you get the archetype that they're describing which is the guy who ends
00:42:14.220 up starting his own company he's the entrepreneur i'm like but now you're in in a marketing problem
00:42:20.860 like there's only certain so many of those people that a market can sustain the the funny thing
00:42:25.940 about the trade argument is a tradie on a on any given week right when he's making his money
00:42:33.920 10 of his money comes from actual trade and another 30 of it comes from like service and
00:42:40.520 small business competition like how essentially how bad his competitors are in that neighborhood
00:42:46.020 and then the rest of it is a it's a knowledge thing right because tradies love nothing more
00:42:51.340 and i'm probably gonna piss people off with this but tradies love nothing more than walking into
00:42:55.360 a house with a total fucking dolt and being asked to do a really simple thing that the dolt could
00:43:01.100 do on his own and charging him 1500 bucks for the privilege of fucking screwing the ball bin for him
00:43:06.920 right yeah so the funny thing is that ai endangers that in the exact same way that it endangers
00:43:14.580 bottom level bottom level mind you design engineering architecture service jobs right
00:43:20.060 because in the same way that the tradie will still have 10 of his income left which is his
00:43:24.700 true trade experience that is not replaceable right only he has the ability to get in under
00:43:30.560 the floorboards and identify a problem with one eye full of mud right but likewise there are
00:43:37.740 engineering jobs that these machines can't do right or like i was saying to you earlier off mic
00:43:42.640 that um in engineering or like we say with large companies or maybe we're saying to somebody else
00:43:47.180 but there's a lot of things that you you wouldn't trust them to an llm because you wouldn't trust
00:43:51.620 into a fucking intern either you trust them only to a senior engineer because not only does it need
00:43:55.800 to be right the first time but you need to have it de-risked a month in advance and then you need
00:44:00.640 somebody who's going to be fucking accountable such that if it goes wrong you can call them at
00:44:04.720 six in the morning on a saturday and they will fix it before monday at nine and it can't just
00:44:08.620 be an llm that goes it can't just be a fucking llm now i'm not saying the example would be even
00:44:13.480 when you catch the llm making a mistake all it goes is well i'm sorry you're right i made a huge
00:44:19.080 ever yeah but there's there's no repercussions and there's no way to adjust that and so you what
00:44:23.900 that to me that experience worked with llms and you find their limit right you find the point at
00:44:29.260 which they start to hallucinate you're like all right that is your limit you're hobbled there's
00:44:33.680 there's i you're useful to me to an extent there's only so much i can do with you and beyond that
00:44:38.840 point i gotta go work with somebody else i gotta do it myself or i gotta find a professional
00:44:42.340 that's essentially like having in my experience that's the equivalent of having like a a hard
00:44:48.760 working but low iq employee and i've had a number of those i've had like five of them in my life
00:44:54.040 and honestly i kept them around for a long time because they're a known quantity and you use them
00:44:59.180 for a lot of stuff but you don't actually use them for the important stuff they're not really
00:45:02.700 the money maker they're the cleanup crew they're the fucking gophers so and that's llms are gophers
00:45:08.280 and i'm sorry if you're being replaced by an llm your job wasn't important oh i'm sorry there's a
00:45:14.260 couple other things i was saying to him which is i you know i'm just gonna give a scattershot
00:45:19.700 account here and i he had given the example he said there's a construction boom going on right
00:45:25.620 now in canada you know there's gonna be jobs for a lot more people he gave some you know hold on
00:45:31.400 he gave some examples he's like these data centers that are going up you know we don't need to go
00:45:36.280 that but he said office buildings he said all this shit like that and i just said okay well
00:45:39.860 So let's pump the brakes here.
00:45:41.460 I said, if that is true, all of that is servicing white collar work.
00:45:47.340 You understand that, right?
00:45:48.560 Like, you actually need the white collar industry to thrive.
00:45:52.300 Otherwise, who is going in these office buildings?
00:45:55.680 You actually have nothing to build if you don't have this other class that you think is useless.
00:46:01.280 And it's not going to be homes because everyone's going to be broke.
00:46:03.700 Remember, you do not live on an island.
00:46:06.260 You are tethered to the economy like the rest of us.
00:46:09.620 if everyone's broke no one's actually fucking building anything which is what was happening
00:46:13.520 for many years home builds were like in the fucking dirt everything was in the dirt and he
00:46:18.980 said people over tiktok construction tradie guys go now i'm saying tradie i don't know if that's
00:46:23.860 that's their nigger word or anything but i'm like everyone's complaining no one's getting paid
00:46:30.180 everyone's fucking it's and i said there's it's not a coincidence that i know a lot of these guys
00:46:36.800 who did the right thing they're entrepreneurial they you know the electrician who still had to
00:46:42.580 go to four years of school to get that and then like five to six years of apprenticing before he
00:46:48.880 could start his own company he's going bankrupt because people just don't have because the houses
00:46:54.140 aren't going up they don't get these nice big contracts they're just getting little tiny work
00:46:58.380 and everyone's just chiseling them on price and just no one's no one's doing it no one wants it
00:47:03.140 anymore because they're all broke i'm like that's like this all affects everything and what i was
00:47:07.580 saying was i'm not getting bogged down in white collar better than blue collar blue collar better
00:47:13.120 than white collars like what i'm saying is 90 of both of these hemispheres nine percent of the jobs
00:47:18.880 are shit if you've ever been in a crew on a job site you know that three quarters of the guys
00:47:26.700 around you are thieving morons and they're drunk and they're on pills right most of these people
00:47:32.880 these are not salt to the earth hard-working guys are you fucking joking are you fucking kidding me
00:47:39.020 these people should be in a hole we should the the job should be digging a hole for this entire
00:47:45.700 crew to go into most of the time i would i would say that has been my experience absolutely working
00:47:52.240 with trades guys and especially working like what you would call like bottom like okay working
00:47:57.920 working logistics working like scab construction on large sites is like that certainly but you
00:48:04.540 know what so is working in an office i mean i think that's it's the it's the same across both
00:48:09.380 sectors 80 of everybody is a fucking worm you go into an office and you say most of these offices
00:48:15.400 should be shot up right right right i'm just i guess you go to you go to like landscapers
00:48:21.320 finishing some rich guy's yard and there's 15 of them and half of them are picking their nose
00:48:25.440 and the other third of them are standing in a ditch jacking off like fuck you guys honestly
00:48:31.000 so what we're saying is billions must die right right up right at the gate but then also i'm
00:48:36.680 saying you know most of this shit is it's in an inflated economy it's jobs that don't matter but
00:48:42.400 it's all very complex it's a very difficult situation but yeah that's all i was i was trying
00:48:48.960 get it there and uh yeah and i said that automation is in one form or another coming towards the
00:48:56.560 trades as well in fits and starts and you know i gave the example i was seeing 3d printed houses
00:49:01.580 right it's a big machine that makes little lines of concrete and draws the house in right and you'll
00:49:08.060 say well that's probably a shit house i can name you a dozen reasons why that house is shit i mean
00:49:12.580 it is here's the thing so is all ai the ai that's replacing those tens of thousands of employees
00:49:18.820 that is shit too and it does a bad job but it doesn't stop them from doing it it doesn't stop
00:49:23.460 people from getting fired guys i've got a short memory too because we've switched almost entirely
00:49:28.100 to truss houses over the past 50 years framers used to cut and assemble house frames from scratch
00:49:35.940 on site and it would take three four times as many framers to my understanding than it does today
00:49:41.220 because framers today are really just pinning together trusses that were trucked in it's like
00:49:46.340 the new thing is even more modular houses is what right exactly so the point is if all your
00:49:51.560 quote-unquote frame and okay i don't want to piss on framers because i mean it's honestly framers
00:49:56.420 is a more important job than some shit but but to the extent that a framer's job today is just
00:50:01.200 pinning frames together i'm not saying that's his whole job think of it like the tradie then maybe
00:50:05.380 that's 60 of his job that 60 in the by 2030 is going to be done by a fucking humanoid robot dude
00:50:12.440 i'm sorry but that's where this is going because we can't continue to pay trade wages in a collapsing
00:50:18.680 economy when you can buy a humanoid robot with a 10-hour battery life for 30 grand and one of the
00:50:24.620 documents i shared it was from kpmg and it was the like ontario construction association they
00:50:31.280 released a pdf a report last year of the state of the industry where it's going in the next year
00:50:37.540 And that big headline blurb right on the front page was, we're trying to figure out how to do more with less.
00:50:44.280 The whole point with the construction, it's like, they're already talking past it.
00:50:47.500 Like, we know there's labor shortage, and there's always going to be labor shortage.
00:50:52.560 So what can we do to make things cheaper and faster with fewer people?
00:50:57.200 That's where they're headed.
00:50:59.340 And it doesn't matter whether or not it's even, you know, achievable right now.
00:51:04.100 Because we've always said that with AI, it doesn't matter what we can do now.
00:51:06.520 All that matters is the amount of money and the amount of institutional support to get it from point A to point D.
00:51:12.300 Here's where they want to go.
00:51:13.420 What they want to do is if they could, they would.
00:51:16.960 If they could do it now, they would.
00:51:18.200 They just can't.
00:51:18.880 But maybe they will.
00:51:20.100 It's to automate this, do everything modular, do everything templated.
00:51:23.860 Yes, the houses will become shittier, but no one's going to fucking care.
00:51:27.880 People will just be excited to have houses.
00:51:29.860 That's what they're banking on.
00:51:31.660 That's what they're saying.
00:51:32.260 We need more houses, not good houses.
00:51:34.000 We just need homes.
00:51:35.080 you know we just need to throw them up they tried to get us on tiny homes like five years they tried
00:51:42.220 to get millennials in a tiny homes that didn't take so what they're thinking is well we need
00:51:46.140 cheap homes but taller that's really what they're saying that's what they're doing in my town that's
00:51:52.740 cheats four stories but it's only 500 square feet on a footprint yeah yeah just a narrow stretched
00:52:00.200 out looney tunes house like they just took it when boing stretched out so that's what they're
00:52:05.300 doing so anyway and i'm not trying to really rag on this individual skookum but it's just i've
00:52:10.360 heard this before and i'm like you guys my overall argument is you don't know how bad it is you don't
00:52:14.860 know how shitty it's gonna get you know speaking of that we didn't even get to the big news what's
00:52:22.780 the big news this is all anyone's talking about because we saw the resolution of this henry
00:52:30.420 nowak i feel like it's novak because they have a lot of polls there no yeah it's just them not
00:52:36.900 knowing how brown speed it's henry novak talking like he's from the fucking the man from the other
00:52:44.380 place in twin peaks um i just want to point out before i get started there is a sub stack
00:52:52.220 Written by Millennial Woes
00:52:54.160 Friend of the show
00:52:55.620 Had us on a few times by now
00:52:58.480 It's
00:53:00.000 The Murder of Henry Nowak
00:53:02.080 Is the name of it
00:53:03.060 It was published just a couple days ago
00:53:05.540 It's very very comprehensive
00:53:07.880 Follows the entire case
00:53:09.460 From beginning right up into the present
00:53:11.700 There is a lot of
00:53:13.760 Fog of journalism
00:53:16.020 About this
00:53:16.980 A lot of people just don't know the full story
00:53:19.200 And he's done as good a job as anyone
00:53:21.840 So if anyone wants to know more about this,
00:53:24.140 we're not going to just read from that entirely,
00:53:25.860 although there are some interesting parts here,
00:53:29.060 especially when it comes to the family.
00:53:32.000 So if we had to summarize this,
00:53:33.500 we're going to have some clips in here just expanding on this.
00:53:37.120 But if I had to explain it to someone like my wife,
00:53:41.500 which I had to today, she'd know what was going on.
00:53:44.580 I said, do you hear about the guy that was stabbed by the Indian?
00:53:47.180 And she said, which one?
00:53:48.960 Just like she's riffing, you know?
00:53:51.460 She's like, no, but what happened?
00:53:54.420 So it's like, okay, white guy stabbed in the back by, in the UK,
00:54:01.400 an Indian Sikh, Sikh, with his ceremonial blade.
00:54:06.920 His murderer, Vikram Digwar, lied to police,
00:54:09.700 claiming that the 18-year-old had been racist,
00:54:12.400 and here was his brother calling emergency services.
00:54:16.460 Just got attacked recently by some white person.
00:54:19.400 Right, okay. Whereabouts are you?
00:54:21.460 uh we're on uh belmont road just parked on my car to come home and he attacked my brother
00:54:25.980 you're talking about verbally or physically no no he physically attacked my brother we're
00:54:31.900 sheiks we wear turban and he's just attacked my brother bleeding on the ground they call the
00:54:37.420 police someone calls the police uh during which time the family is hiding the weapon they're
00:54:43.580 concocting a self-defense story but because they're brown they don't know how to create
00:54:48.240 believable story so they just said he he was racist and then the police officers by my
00:54:54.000 understanding they're white am i correct yeah that's what i saw that's what i saw because i
00:54:59.560 was hearing stories that it was just two tiny female cops that were you know yucking it up
00:55:06.340 and twerking on top of it and then the actual cops released one of them was a guy so people
00:55:11.560 are just saying stuff and that's why you know we like to wait on these things if at all possible
00:55:15.920 but they're he's dying on the ground they handcuff him and he dies he expires uh and
00:55:23.200 millennial woes and others have just imagine that scene imagine your young man an immigrant
00:55:31.240 himself his family is from poland i believe yeah that's what i thought so it's novak yeah he's just
00:55:36.340 uh out you know upstanding citizen otherwise which is which is funny because any other day
00:55:41.980 like be honest we are trying to deport all the polls someone i made a point the left has seized
00:55:47.240 on this we'll get to that in a second where they said oh so you're in favor of mass migration would
00:55:52.040 you have deported henry novak and i just said this was to like the serfs or something one of
00:55:57.300 these leftist podcasts i said if he was deported he'd still be alive correct correct it would have
00:56:03.340 been a mercy to deport novak's family because they'd still be alive poland is much safer than
00:56:09.480 england would you rather be alive in poland or dead in london now if you ask some of the people
00:56:16.320 from our community they would they would prefer to be dead rather than be alive in poland however i
00:56:22.420 think for him he would probably prefer to be alive alive yeah um so uh yeah terrible story
00:56:33.840 the imagery coming out of this is is is reprehensible everyone's all fired up we have
00:56:39.120 many friends of the show in our community who live on the ground there so i could only imagine
00:56:45.480 how fired up they are because this is just one of the latest dignities that they've witnessed
00:56:50.780 um and we could break it down from there um so your thoughts before i just go off
00:56:58.580 what do you think about all this honestly this is one of the least complicated ones we've seen
00:57:03.360 in a long time which is probably why it's so talked about there isn't really much to say other
00:57:09.400 than he should be executed and so should his mom and probably probably the rest of his family i mean
00:57:17.420 let the rest of his family have a trial but him and the mom should be executed for sure i think
00:57:22.640 we just start executing everyone in the immediate family and expand that outwards until anybody who
00:57:28.560 was involved with the murder i mean because we're normally saying put them in in planes and send
00:57:33.120 them back to their home countries but they're like you were a murderer and an accessory to a
00:57:37.580 murderer like literally the mother's involvement is one of the primary reasons why hank is dead
00:57:44.240 so yeah execution execution immediate public execution is i'm just going to start expanding
00:57:51.320 outward yes recklessly correct when you're going to stop i say it's not reckless it's calculated
00:57:56.820 i said don't worry about what i'm doing you don't worry about that she she she i i'll i'll know when
00:58:03.080 we stop the funny thing is you brought up an anarcho tyranny earlier right the irony to me
00:58:08.200 this is an actual irony i'm using the word correctly is that a system where we execute
00:58:14.820 anybody who is found to be an accessory to murder without asking any further questions
00:58:19.920 would be a stronger normative system a more stable society than the one we live in where
00:58:27.220 you can go get life in prison for mean words but you can murder someone and get no prison time
00:58:33.880 right so to just say hey and if you're involved with a murder we don't give a fuck we don't care
00:58:39.400 what color your skin is we don't care where you came from i'm not asking any questions my eyes
00:58:43.640 are already closed and you're on that you got a hangman's noose around your neck we'll see you
00:58:47.720 tomorrow that's it and if there's no conversation right normative system you what's so funny to me
00:58:54.580 is they still keep trying to have a conversation right with with with me with us it's like well
00:59:02.460 dimes what if i'm i i've been telling you i'm stupid and i'm insane there's nothing you can
00:59:08.860 say can you imagine no i can't i won't i shan't there's no i i don't feel any sympathy i don't
00:59:18.360 feel anything no except like i see this and i say oh yeah just fucking drown them drown them in a
00:59:24.100 in a big big big big big bathtub i don't fucking care and and most people over there don't fucking
00:59:31.380 care either at this point because i was not expecting that white people would get their
00:59:36.780 own george floyd we have our own uh rosa parks in the form of chud the builder yep and we have
00:59:48.600 our own george floyd down to him saying i can't breathe yeah which was honestly who writes this
00:59:55.700 shit amazing who writes a bit much okay guys if i hate to say if i'm dying and the police are you
01:00:04.660 know apprehending me the last thing i'm going to say is i can't breathe just
01:00:08.620 i gotta think of anything else even if i can't breathe i have to be like i yeah i i struggle
01:00:17.360 come here what is it what is it come here come here i tell my wife i can't breathe
01:00:24.520 yeah so so it's perfectly packaged the only thing that hurts it i guess narratively is that the
01:00:33.280 arresting police officers the constables were white themselves if they had been black it would
01:00:39.700 be even worse but it wouldn't have helped our let's make the case for opponents because it's
01:00:44.140 already mostly there but it's so egregious like this is such a depiction of what we all talk about
01:00:50.500 and um i saw this i want to take you through the secrets of events as i was learning about we got
01:00:57.140 rupert lowe here who is the head of restore uk the new racist political party everyone's excited
01:01:05.100 about we know some people who are fans of him and what they're doing and so he writes this
01:01:11.460 post here. He says, enough is enough.
01:01:13.920 A deep line needs to be drawn
01:01:15.680 in the sand. Talk is weak. Britain
01:01:17.560 needs to say no more and
01:01:19.420 mean it.
01:01:21.000 He recounts the case. He says, keeping
01:01:23.300 the savage alive serves nobody.
01:01:26.000 Speaking of the murderer.
01:01:27.700 Who killed him, again, with a ceremonial knife.
01:01:30.600 And immediately
01:01:31.640 you hear that and you say, I keep
01:01:33.560 hearing about these knives. What is
01:01:35.640 the ceremony?
01:01:37.360 You can't just say ceremonial. That's
01:01:39.420 the thing.
01:01:40.280 are in the context of our cultures even fucking jewish culture they have a ceremonial thing it's
01:01:45.760 for a time and a place i don't yeah because i'd heard stories and i didn't know about this but
01:01:50.880 in the united arab emirates they made these types of knives the kerpans i believe illegal
01:01:56.600 and guess what they stopped carrying them around it turns out it's one of these things where it's
01:02:01.940 actually not that important they're lying to you when they're saying it's that important they just
01:02:05.520 want it they want to have a knife they think it's cool if there's law against it well fuck
01:02:09.740 you could ban hijabs you could ban fucking mosques completely right what's gonna nothing's
01:02:16.340 gonna happen it's completely social right there's there will be no repercussions there's a big red
01:02:21.560 button you could press all you got to do is press it but i i don't like getting into the framing of
01:02:26.380 you call it ceremonial well what's the ceremony yeah i'm not i don't actually care let's say it
01:02:31.400 is ceremonial i don't give a fuck it's not a christian or canadian cultural ceremony so it
01:02:37.060 doesn't belong here and neither do you get the fuck out yeah and so the post goes on here says
01:02:44.120 uh dig was the the perpetrator is named digwa did was foreign family will be deported laws will
01:02:51.880 change the country will change everything will change order will be restored the law will be
01:02:56.120 restored britain will be restored and you know he says this it's all fire and brimstone of course
01:03:02.080 we're going to do this and that and and britain's going to be back and when i had read this i had
01:03:07.960 said okay well do that now don't say britain's going to be back that don't say that a great
01:03:13.760 reckoning is coming don't say that one day the white man will awaken awaken them now you're
01:03:20.000 you're the fucking political party you're the one adjacent to power yeah but i mean you know
01:03:26.220 where he's coming from though he has nothing he literally has i think i think they got one seat
01:03:30.320 essentially he's essentially their maxi and it wasn't but maxi these guys if tommy fucking
01:03:37.120 robinson could do it tommy robinson run for fuck all but you have enough of an audience that you
01:03:42.120 could say get me 500 people here at this date in this time right they would show up so i mean i
01:03:47.960 guess you could say the problem with low is for all his fire and brimstone he still believes in
01:03:52.700 the democratic process and he still thinks that the solution to this is to get elected and become
01:03:57.820 prime minister and to not just burn the whole fucking place down yeah i'm gonna say my thought
01:04:02.240 process at the time was that get some people to a place now because they'll say dimes what do you
01:04:10.380 want the man was found guilty of a crime he's going to jail for second degree murder the system
01:04:16.800 works they'll say what more do you want off the top of my head uh i want those cops those specific
01:04:24.920 police fired and then i'd want i'd want well the police themselves fired i'd want them in prison
01:04:31.880 or i'd want them also like let's pillory them let's chop their fingers off and all the chief
01:04:36.600 of police and anybody who trained them anybody who was again this whole thing about the hierarchy
01:04:40.520 right i thought i thought the whole point to having hierarchy within the military and within
01:04:47.160 the police is that the people above these officers are held responsible for the actions of the people
01:04:52.120 below them because the and the reason is because the actions of the officers and the soldiers are
01:04:57.220 always we call back to them and say well they were just following orders right so it was actually the
01:05:01.480 colonel's fault it was actually the general's fault it was the chief's fault right so it's not
01:05:04.860 just that these officers should be held accountable the fucking chief the whole department should be
01:05:08.340 yeah well that's where i was gonna if you gotta let me finish sorry because you must trust that
01:05:13.320 i'm leading this i know i i know i'm heated i mean you do that's why i want these police officers
01:05:19.000 fired and then in prison and then i want you to start imprisoning police randomly yes at random
01:05:26.640 go just start picking them out and imprison them i don't give a fuck i am livid and i don't even
01:05:32.280 live there you understand and what else do you want times well i i want uh every indian to kneel
01:05:38.440 to me for five years i want everything that you got from george floyd every time there's an indian
01:05:46.380 concert and i don't care if it just seeks i want all indians accountable because by the all your
01:05:52.340 politicians all the fucking keir starmers you all kneeled for george floyd a dead nigger across the
01:05:59.060 ocean so i want to see every everyone in india kneeling to to our victim and to me specifically
01:06:06.260 for five years and then how about i decide what happens next yeah and that's to start that's the
01:06:12.600 start you want to talk we're used to humiliating humiliation rituals cooked up by 75 iq people
01:06:19.220 you you were not prepared for the humiliation ritual conjured by the sensitive young men
01:06:26.800 of these great nations like we're coming up with some wild shit to start i want i want to see you
01:06:33.780 get on me and apologize for an indeterminate amount of time anything less than that go
01:06:38.940 yourself now rupert lowe's message i said i want some action and i said this in our community
01:06:47.020 and it turns out that the nation of britain is subscribes to the blood satellite community
01:06:54.780 wonderful the heated my words and it turns out that as i was saying that they were already
01:07:02.000 protesting as i was saying that as i was demanding action action was already being taken there was
01:07:10.400 riots in the streets there was over in um southampton over there's like thousands of people
01:07:18.480 fighting the police throwing bricks and bottles improvised weapons showing up at the family's
01:07:24.880 house breaking down police barricades i'm thrilled that's again that's i'd like to see it i want to
01:07:32.240 see more of it i won't just lose your fucking minds now you know i mean that sounds like a
01:07:37.480 call to violence i should rephrase that this is i'm just gonna say i like what i'm seeing because
01:07:41.940 everyone seems to be on the same page one note i had was that the chant that they'd selected
01:07:49.500 to signify the severity of this was i can't breathe
01:07:54.200 and i wish they would have found a different phrase you open a good one and we could bat
01:08:03.840 this back and forth let me give you a starting point here here's a germ of an idea chanting
01:08:08.560 they will not protect us now who's they that could be a lot of different people but that's it
01:08:15.540 protect me and that we're talking about the government like the you got you you white man
01:08:21.740 will get stabbed and then handcuffed by the system as they believe the perpetrator because they are
01:08:29.540 brown that is what happened but let's focus on what happened they assumed the young white man
01:08:36.160 was at fault because he's white and i'd said this to some guys in the chat who are more familiar with
01:08:41.560 the region i'd said look everyone views the cops in one way or another as appendages of the system
01:08:47.900 even if they like it their job is to enforce the order whatever the order is even if they don't
01:08:54.040 like the order whatever okay but whenever i see it in the u.s i can still detect that the police
01:09:01.360 might not want to enforce that particular rule or they'll let someone get away with it or you just
01:09:06.260 see that they don't love what's going on but i swear man when i see the cops in the uk
01:09:13.620 and i see videos of them showing up real you know constables showing up at people's houses with
01:09:19.220 printouts of their social media posts and i just i hear it in their voice and i see it in their eyes
01:09:25.860 that they seem to really believe that they should be there they think they're doing justice and i
01:09:31.780 see them reporting on how many knives they took off the street and it's butter knives and it's
01:09:37.060 like a bicycle wrench or some shit like it's just like we're like you're so delusional and i'll hear
01:09:42.260 it from people who live there saying yeah it's it's really bad here these are true believers
01:09:47.300 so i look at the cops who did this like this wasn't a mistake they are truly believing that
01:09:53.060 that white guy it was a self-defense situation because the white guy said something racist oh
01:09:57.940 oh, that makes sense, that tracks, so let's handcuff him,
01:10:01.460 even though the blood is draining from his body as we speak.
01:10:05.680 That's really what you're protesting against.
01:10:09.080 And so when I saw, I'm looking at a headline here from The Guardian,
01:10:12.860 11 officers and police dog injured in terrifying violence in Southampton.
01:10:20.020 Chief of Hampshire, police, Hampshire,
01:10:22.660 says those claiming to protest over murder of Henry Nowak
01:10:25.740 were determined to spark fear and division.
01:10:27.760 and that's the type of shit that is what you're protesting really what you're protesting is the
01:10:33.100 reaction to the protest you're you're preempting it because whatever you're feeling right now
01:10:38.920 whatever action you take they're going to say you're trying to politicize it you are trying
01:10:45.360 to sow division it's your fault why are you trying to make a big deal out of this as if again you
01:10:52.160 weren't kneeling for five years for a dead nigger an ocean away right and if i and if i thought that
01:10:58.240 was weird you'd try and put me in jail and now i see this and you're saying why why do you care
01:11:04.080 don't don't try and divide the country that system and the thing that causes the police to love their
01:11:12.640 job when they're putting your social media posts and say you don't get to have internet anymore
01:11:18.960 you're going to jail because you you just said a thing and you're living in one of the worst
01:11:25.600 security panopticons on earth like that's really what this is a protest against it is a total
01:11:31.680 anti-white system the reaction to these protests is just evidence of that you know what's also
01:11:36.480 here here i gotta fucking here here we go there was a vigil held for henry nowak and it was uh
01:11:45.680 protested by a group called Stand Up to Racism.
01:11:51.260 They're disrupting a vigil for the murdered student.
01:11:54.620 They proudly boast on social media that they screened fascists at mourners
01:11:58.640 as they laid flowers and attempted to hold a three-minute silence in Southampton.
01:12:04.300 And there's photos of here, right?
01:12:06.540 So I got into it.
01:12:09.380 Not got into it, but there was an individual named Warren Bailog
01:12:13.720 who used to run a show called
01:12:16.220 War Strike
01:12:17.000 I believe they ended it because
01:12:19.540 entropy closed down and they can't make money on it anymore
01:12:22.440 we just do it for the love of the game
01:12:24.400 of course
01:12:24.880 but he was saying that
01:12:27.300 unity with leftists
01:12:29.860 is important
01:12:31.400 and that if you don't think unifying with the left
01:12:34.780 is something we should pursue
01:12:36.180 then you don't know the history of fascism
01:12:38.060 you don't know the history of national socialism
01:12:39.920 etc but I'm like
01:12:41.340 you know i basically said that you know the problem is that and he was talking in anti-semitic
01:12:46.540 terms like you know i'd said that no well the left views and we said this before the left views
01:12:51.140 jews as uh under the control and umbrella of whites like they view israel as an american project they
01:12:57.940 view jews as white they just view israel as part of their anti-colonial and largely anti-white
01:13:02.680 narrative so i'm like it's not even that they dislike jews like you do it's actually something
01:13:07.380 like this where they're trying to hold a vigil
01:13:09.440 for a murdered white
01:13:11.320 guy and here come the leftists
01:13:13.460 here
01:13:15.060 come your allies
01:13:16.640 trying to kick over your fucking
01:13:19.200 candles and piss in your face and disrupt
01:13:21.340 your minute of silence
01:13:22.600 these are the people like with
01:13:25.320 so much more seething rage
01:13:27.420 than even you or I could
01:13:29.280 conjure and all those
01:13:31.140 murals of Irene Zarutska
01:13:33.200 remember the woman who was stabbed in the neck
01:13:35.080 they just painted murals on there and all of a
01:13:37.360 Listen, the leftists, the anti-fascists, the communists, they're defacing those immediately.
01:13:44.220 And you'll go to jail if you spit in the direction of a George Floyd mural.
01:13:50.660 You see what I'm saying?
01:13:51.200 I'm like, these people, they want white people dead.
01:13:55.120 They think it's good that white people die, and they think it's funny when we're sad about it.
01:14:00.760 I don't want to fucking hear anything else.
01:14:02.600 People say, oh, I don't even accept the left-right dichotomy.
01:14:07.360 well they do well they do yeah but just call them whatever you want there's this group that
01:14:12.620 fucking hates you and they call it guess what they call themselves leftists and so and here
01:14:17.260 they are in your face kicking over your prayer candles so you're saying they don't exist you're
01:14:24.460 saying they're your friends because they momentarily don't like israel but really what they hate is you
01:14:30.920 they don't like israel but you notice what they're not protesting is any synagogue as much as they
01:14:36.620 hate israel and zionism as much as they hate or you might think they hate jews they're only they're
01:14:43.380 still only showing up to your shit white guy so just let's just remember that anyway that and
01:14:51.640 that's the sister you're fighting against those are the people who are trying to fucking kill you
01:14:55.740 and think it's funny and looking at here i'm looking at the cbc right now how britain's far
01:15:01.760 right hijacked the murder of henry nowak because i also wanted to say that the protests that we're
01:15:07.560 seeing i don't think they were uh coordinated or orchestrated by uh restore the restore party
01:15:14.080 no i think they were affiliated with some other right-wing groups i think there was one called
01:15:18.700 like vanguard national something like that i just remember the word vanguard in there but yeah like
01:15:23.560 get oh here's tommy robinson in the mix too you know tommy robinson attends a demonstration in
01:15:30.940 southampton and tuesday mr tommy robinson just like mr gavin mcginnis who for years were saying
01:15:36.060 seeks are the model minorities why can't they all be like seeks it's so cool i saw a clip of the
01:15:42.820 tommy robinson thing and he was protesting he was he turned it and made it about muslims again
01:15:47.400 like he's so transparently just paid by the jews yes it's unreal made about iran i bet right
01:15:54.720 the thing is the number of low iq people that might just see a brown guy and think it was a
01:15:59.580 that did it like look we we all hate muslims we're we're there okay we're with you you
01:16:04.000 fucking kike but we need to get rid of the six as well and so now you're hijacking this shit
01:16:08.900 yeah and the irony is that they're saying the far right has hijacked this case and this tragedy
01:16:17.000 and like no the far right is getting hijacked by the center right yeah there's a genuine far
01:16:23.320 right pushback here which is over the guy and then there's these center right people who are
01:16:27.000 trying to hijack that and turn it back into being against iran or being against capitalism or
01:16:33.220 whatever the fuck anything other than what it is um yeah tom robert nigel farage is getting everyone
01:16:40.200 everyone's talking a big game but you know i i do think once again it is these white nationalist
01:16:48.680 groups active clubs the people have just been around in the margins forever they're most likely
01:16:55.360 the ones getting people out there or it's just
01:16:57.220 organic it's just people from the town
01:16:59.420 doing it and it doesn't need
01:17:01.360 to be coordinated but I don't know
01:17:03.140 I would just like it to be
01:17:04.960 far more outrageous and
01:17:07.360 sustained and reach a
01:17:09.260 crisis level and I just
01:17:11.220 I hate see okay
01:17:13.300 where is it here
01:17:14.680 oh here we go I'm looking at the
01:17:17.360 BBC you know who they get a comment
01:17:19.300 from and this was
01:17:21.420 just days moments after
01:17:23.960 Sikhs, quote, demonized after murder, says community leader.
01:17:27.500 They went and they talked to a Sikh guy, another guy in a turban and a beard.
01:17:32.220 His name is Darbindirjit.
01:17:35.140 I'm not making this up.
01:17:36.580 What does that say?
01:17:39.100 Darbindirjit.
01:17:40.300 Singh, because they're all named Singh, by the way.
01:17:42.740 And this is what people say.
01:17:43.780 They're like, I caught Carl S. Benjamin, Sargon of Akkad,
01:17:50.300 saying that they're not
01:17:51.800 the Sikhs are not a problem
01:17:53.520 community and I said yeah because you actually don't
01:17:56.120 have a lot of them over there we have way more
01:17:58.100 of them over here Canada has a real
01:18:00.060 problem with
01:18:00.920 Punjab gangs right now
01:18:03.720 and they're all named Singh which is
01:18:06.140 specifically a Sikh thing
01:18:07.480 that's their last name
01:18:09.240 and we have cartels of fucking Indian crime
01:18:12.200 over here right now
01:18:13.220 and it pains me that at this stage
01:18:16.260 in the game there's still someone like Carl Benjamin
01:18:18.160 but you think just by trial and error would know better not coming to the conclusion of like you
01:18:24.940 know just because it's not a problem now doesn't mean it's not a problem it's not a problem until
01:18:28.560 it's a problem you think it could be a problem if there's more of them like you're just bewildered
01:18:34.000 by that possibility so yeah we got fucking the six here running interference saying that you know
01:18:40.560 the like the norm mcdonald bit imagine if the muslims detonated a dirty bomb of new york imagine
01:18:46.780 the blowback on peaceful muslims like that's we need to rush to get that and you need to rush to
01:18:54.060 get a quote from the parents of the slain boy saying we don't want his death to cause division
01:19:00.580 and i've said this on the show before no matter how i died find a way to make it divisive
01:19:09.360 i promise buddy promise even i gotcha i gotcha heart attack slipped on a banana peel
01:19:17.560 i don't care figure out a way to politicize it please
01:19:21.460 and i have a hard time believing that by the end of the day you guys are fucking poles right like
01:19:28.040 you even though you're here like there's gotta be some some of the mother country in you that
01:19:33.120 you people cause division
01:19:36.220 you guys are attuned
01:19:38.260 to division
01:19:39.040 anyway I've said
01:19:42.000 do you have any other thoughts on that
01:19:43.880 you got her
01:19:46.000 alright so what else we got 11 police
01:19:48.080 officers injured good
01:19:49.480 Keir Starmer acting a damn
01:19:52.060 fool
01:19:52.520 they're talking about the scourge of knife crime
01:19:56.020 I know you hate that shit
01:19:57.420 it's so many
01:19:59.800 honestly it's crazy to me how much that is
01:20:02.000 normalized over there like there's celebrities saying we need to we need to get every knives
01:20:06.700 off the streets knives out of the homes like honestly if we did that over here we people
01:20:12.120 would just start stabbing honestly if i say that no one would but i'm like i i think that would
01:20:18.840 be just cause if they start taking your knives or like coming into your home and confiscating
01:20:25.320 butcher's knives i mean yeah you should just start just windmill to put a knife in each hand
01:20:30.540 just do windmill arms and run through the streets i mean you can say the same thing about the guns
01:20:34.260 that when they come with the guns we should just shoot the cops but you shouldn't and because it
01:20:38.180 won't help how's that going to stop it and also nobody's gonna it doesn't matter this nobody's
01:20:42.620 actually going to do that um the problem as ever is this kind of this push that you know we have
01:20:49.540 to convince if only everybody would all act as one body and do the right no you need like 200
01:20:55.360 uh psychos to go and change things and then things are changed and the button gets pushed
01:21:00.140 i was looking at this post just this is not even very related but it's just
01:21:06.980 another example i'm looking at the national post tristan hopper writing this this is a follow-up
01:21:14.320 to those residential school mass graves that we were hearing about remember for a while uh the
01:21:20.340 kamloops residential school graves could have been septic pipes all along is the headline here
01:21:25.560 five years after they announced
01:21:28.580 the mass grave
01:21:29.500 the only way to know what's under there is to escalate
01:21:32.320 but looking at the plans it was most likely
01:21:34.420 a sewage pump of some kind
01:21:36.360 no bodies, no bodies were ever found
01:21:38.220 and I'm just reminded
01:21:39.780 there was over 200 churches that were burned
01:21:42.580 because of this
01:21:43.420 I'm trying to give a comparable example
01:21:46.200 to anarchic tyranny
01:21:47.280 there actually was another guy who was stabbed
01:21:49.620 here, was it?
01:21:52.120 I think it was in Toronto
01:21:53.500 by a Sikh stabbing the neck
01:21:56.000 because it was
01:21:57.660 a father asking this Indian
01:21:59.720 guy to not vape around his daughter
01:22:01.620 and he just got stabbed in the neck over it.
01:22:04.300 You know what I mean? So I'm like
01:22:05.200 we
01:22:06.720 it does pain me
01:22:09.320 that it's taken
01:22:11.160 this many instances.
01:22:13.500 They'll say, oh, there's evil people in every
01:22:15.780 race. I'm like, I don't fucking care.
01:22:17.980 You know what this is.
01:22:19.700 You know what this is and you're not scared.
01:22:21.800 you're not scared in the way white people were scared we saw george floyd everyone tensed up
01:22:28.200 there was no confidence when george floyd occurred remember that you remember the
01:22:31.960 the way the cling to the air where everyone said this is going to come down hard on white people
01:22:37.640 none of these people are worried that anything's going to come down hard on them
01:22:40.680 they're not concerned they can act brazenly and maybe it's because their their behavioral traits
01:22:46.920 or not disposed to actually considering the future.
01:22:51.980 Of course, there's that.
01:22:53.540 But I'm like, you know, we're living in a prey position.
01:22:56.520 And I think overall, that's what these protests are protesting against.
01:22:59.840 It's not only the system, but it's just the sense that we're in a prey position.
01:23:03.040 We feel weak.
01:23:04.300 We feel that seeing Keir Starmer, that fucking bloated lesbian, get up there
01:23:10.740 and give a half-ass thing, like, oh, we're sorry.
01:23:14.420 That's my Keir Starmer impression, by the way.
01:23:16.200 we're sorry
01:23:17.820 we have to get rid of the knives
01:23:20.720 and really it's not about anything
01:23:22.540 it's like the fact that we even
01:23:24.840 accept that is pathetic
01:23:27.040 that they feel confident they could
01:23:28.760 say that to people like us
01:23:30.640 and we'll just be like
01:23:32.200 doesn't he know how
01:23:34.820 wrong he is
01:23:35.680 the wrong sorts of people
01:23:38.820 are fearless in society
01:23:40.540 I guess that's overall what we're saying
01:23:42.740 that's overall what I'm saying
01:23:44.520 you want to talk about epstein
01:23:48.920 we're covering so much ground today yes let's talk about epstein what we got
01:23:54.500 you'll recall on the last episode we were discussing volume one of this two-part series
01:24:02.620 two-volume deal called one nation under blackmail by whitney webb what do you think of that by the
01:24:09.200 way did you like that yeah i like that yeah the first book was interesting i might like the first
01:24:16.100 volume more than the second volume because the first volume just to recap that it was building
01:24:23.120 a foundation explaining the relationship between the america and it focuses on america of course
01:24:29.540 although this is international on the relationship between the intelligence agency apparatus and
01:24:36.300 organized crime specifically jewish gangsters but you know that's a story that we've told
01:24:42.660 many times before across many different books that probably won't surprise anyone but it was
01:24:47.840 showing the coalescing of those two groups and then how by degrees they started using blackmail
01:24:55.940 for control specifically sexual blackmail specifically sexual blackmail that was
01:25:01.280 you know apprehended in rooms that were set up wired for sound wired for video this whole you
01:25:09.580 know there's a time when that didn't really happen and then there was a golden age of that
01:25:13.740 the argument overall is that maybe we're leaving that golden age and they don't need rooms with a
01:25:19.340 camera to catch people's sexual impropriety anymore but i think the first book was very
01:25:25.820 important because miss webb is very careful to explain that jeffrey epstein is probably not
01:25:34.820 treated as importantly as he should be we kind of forget about epstein some people overreact to him
01:25:41.820 but really he is a very consequential figure if we look into it however there is a system here
01:25:47.780 that does not require Jeffrey Epstein.
01:25:51.240 Jeffrey Epstein was just one node inside of it.
01:25:55.580 But you can swap out Jeffrey Epstein for anyone, really.
01:25:59.580 What this thing is, is beyond him.
01:26:02.920 It has a very deep history.
01:26:05.200 That's what the first book was getting at.
01:26:07.180 And I thought that was a very interesting way of looking at it.
01:26:10.780 Now, this volume two is more about just
01:26:13.740 Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
01:26:15.940 and some people
01:26:18.460 think that's more interesting
01:26:20.460 you do need the first
01:26:22.480 volume to make sense
01:26:24.540 of it I think because
01:26:25.900 it gets into Robert Maxwell, Jelaine Maxwell's
01:26:28.580 father because Jelaine Maxwell doesn't make
01:26:30.560 sense unless you know who her father is
01:26:32.580 unless you know what that family was all about
01:26:34.420 and what her role is in all of this
01:26:36.040 people might say that she was
01:26:40.400 working with him to procure
01:26:42.760 girls but it was way deeper than that
01:26:44.780 She was almost a purebred, manipulative whore.
01:26:51.320 She was raised to be this thing that she is.
01:26:55.920 Jeffrey Epstein, I don't know, he just kind of just emerged as this enigmatic fucker.
01:27:05.340 It goes into his past here.
01:27:08.140 It goes into the story of Epstein and how strange his academic career is.
01:27:12.660 Alex, before I get started, any thoughts on Epstein, Judas?
01:27:23.940 What do you think of this Epstein guy?
01:27:26.000 I think he was a pretty bad dude.
01:27:28.320 He was a bad dude.
01:27:30.320 He hasn't been brought up enough.
01:27:31.520 I think if I was going to put a pin on Epstein on the map somewhere, he's like an avatar of all of the reasons that we consider Jews to be our existential, civilizational enemies.
01:27:50.700 He actually checks essentially every single box.
01:27:54.120 So he's important culturally in that sense.
01:27:57.440 And also, he saw himself as very Jewish.
01:28:00.260 he did every waking moment was how jewish can i be today how can i insert my judaism into this
01:28:06.840 interaction with a goy he was always complaining about goys he was always you know what i mean
01:28:12.040 like that was central he wasn't walking and he wasn't even that jewish he wasn't like a practicing
01:28:16.300 jew that's my point like like it's not like he was some hasidim or something right to him he was
01:28:22.300 the distillation of the the modern conniving hand-rubbing world jewry who really just lives
01:28:31.200 to fuck kids and ruin people he's a like he's a demon essentially he's a living demon yeah
01:28:38.620 and but people he seemed like he'd be kind of annoying to be around too like i don't know
01:28:43.300 people look there's some people look he seemed really autistic in the emails like he seemed like
01:28:48.320 he's not he's actually not good at talking to people yeah you know what's interesting what
01:28:51.760 guys like him and i remember when we were talking about that show succession which you have yet to
01:28:56.740 finish and i'm very disappointed moving past that um there's the figure that jeffrey epstein cuts
01:29:04.800 when you hear about how he was moving around in the world he's the type of guy he's wearing his
01:29:10.140 quarter zip all the time he's wearing you know shorts he's walking around barefoot in his house
01:29:16.520 he's very relaxed and that's the sort of aesthetic and you know the sort of aura that a lot of the
01:29:25.260 rich guys try and cultivate now and that's what i remember when they were interviewing
01:29:29.380 kieran culkin in succession he said one thing you don't notice until you're doing it is that
01:29:36.260 these people tend not to wear coats they're so rich they're always just moving between rooms
01:29:40.820 or moving from a building to a limo then the limo to a helicopter then a helicopter to private play
01:29:46.100 in their private plane to limit. It's like you're never
01:29:47.920 outside for that often. So you
01:29:50.100 look at a guy like Epstein and you're like
01:29:51.480 this guy seems very comfortable.
01:29:54.780 He's showing up to
01:29:55.980 galas dressed as whatever. He's walking
01:29:58.180 in with sandals.
01:29:59.900 He gives off
01:30:02.000 the vibe of someone who had a cheat
01:30:04.000 code to life.
01:30:05.800 I didn't know you could just walk in in a
01:30:07.900 Hawaiian shirt. But he's not sloppy either.
01:30:10.180 But he's like the world
01:30:12.120 is his living room.
01:30:14.260 That's the level these people
01:30:15.940 are at that level of power where like you're not worried about anything it would never cross your
01:30:20.480 mind they could be mugged because you got like snipers around you or something you got like a
01:30:24.700 security detail that people can't even imagine right but it's like you're you're at you're
01:30:29.660 comfortable in the world in the way that no other human being is i think that's just like an
01:30:33.440 interesting way of looking at the psychology behind someone like him so it starts off here
01:30:38.940 It says in the latter half of 1974, Epstein began working at the elite Dalton school, teaching mathematics and physics.
01:30:47.740 He would remain with the school until 76.
01:30:50.920 There has been much disagreement in mainstream press over who at Dalton was responsible for hiring Epstein.
01:30:57.460 At the time Epstein began working there, the headmaster was Peter Branch.
01:31:00.780 and when contacted in 2019
01:31:02.880 by professor and author
01:31:05.000 Thomas Wolschow
01:31:05.960 he didn't recall hiring Epstein
01:31:08.820 and was pretty sure that the previous
01:31:11.060 headmaster did. So basically she sounds like
01:31:13.120 no one knows how he got there
01:31:15.060 no one knows who hired him
01:31:16.820 no one knows what he did because Epstein
01:31:18.960 certainly fell into the unconventional
01:31:21.120 category as he lacked the academic
01:31:23.120 credentials to even teach
01:31:25.240 at a public school in New York City
01:31:27.060 so he's like
01:31:28.840 He's just there, teaching at a school.
01:31:31.040 It doesn't make sense.
01:31:32.980 And after Epstein left the school in 76,
01:31:34.900 he went to work on Wall Street for Bear Stearns.
01:31:38.240 So it's like a teaching position, teaching physics,
01:31:40.480 then you're going like the next year to work at Bear Stearns.
01:31:42.820 That's strange.
01:31:43.420 Whatever.
01:31:44.320 While he started off as a floor trader,
01:31:46.540 he soon began working with wealthy clients on the bigger projects
01:31:50.340 that sought an edge in esoteric markets.
01:31:53.620 That's a quote there.
01:31:55.480 I love esoteric markets.
01:31:57.660 According to a former senior Bear Stearns executive,
01:32:00.800 Epstein accumulated knowledge of the U.S. tax codes,
01:32:04.080 and that made him one of Bear's prized assets.
01:32:07.000 He never went to college, but he knew everything about taxes.
01:32:10.640 In fact, he could figure out just about anything if he studied it.
01:32:13.460 The guy was a genius.
01:32:14.780 The guy who just didn't go to school for it was,
01:32:16.200 oh, this fucking genius, we got a genius that no one knows where he came from.
01:32:20.100 Cool.
01:32:21.320 Thanks to these talents, Epstein became a limited partner by 1980.
01:32:26.380 So here's a guy who's just shooting up through the ranks in a very bizarre way.
01:32:31.040 After leaving Bear Stearns, Epstein would later claim that he went on to manage money only for billionaires.
01:32:37.500 It's according to him.
01:32:38.340 He says, I was the only person crazy enough or arrogant enough or misplaced enough to make my limit a billion dollars or more.
01:32:46.640 However, it appears that there was much more to the story as the details of Epstein's life from his 81 exit of Bear Stearns up until 86 are murky at best.
01:32:55.600 the details that are known about epstein during the period point to something considerably
01:32:59.200 different than epstein's own account this is particularly obvious when one considers that
01:33:03.680 his formal role as a money manager didn't appear to begin until 88 when he founded jeffrey epstein
01:33:10.400 and co so again like his entire past he's got stories about it but he's working at a level
01:33:16.080 where there should be more people who knew him more people have stories about him and a more
01:33:22.960 robust track record and it just isn't i know someone like eric weinstein has gone so far as
01:33:29.460 to say jeffrey epstein's a construct i'm not sure i would go that far but i do think i think he was
01:33:35.120 a guy and he was brought into this world and he's not a nobody he's not a pauper he's not a fucking
01:33:42.720 street urchin he's obviously a connected wealthy guy probably to the extent that his credentials
01:33:48.380 don't actually check out and it's not that he isn't a real guy it's that his credentials are
01:33:52.940 hidden he has real credentials but they're not university credentials they're massad
01:33:56.940 credentials it's connections to foreign governments yeah yeah and massad comes up a lot in this story
01:34:03.220 people um she continues on here says with uh roy cone and uh these other individuals there this
01:34:12.040 raises the additional possibility that epstein may have been first exposed to the idea of sexual
01:34:16.480 blackmail operations in this period, due his proximity to people like Roy Cohn and Gray
01:34:22.480 through this guy named Khashoggi, who was not the Khashoggi that was murdered, but a different
01:34:26.700 Khashoggi. Because Roy Cohn, as we learned in the last episode, Donald Trump's mentor,
01:34:34.720 of course, he had a long history of blackmail and corruption. He was one of the big proponents
01:34:40.740 of sexual blackmail and so he was the same circle as epstein um another possibility is that epstein
01:34:46.980 was first exposed to this type of operation through the a potential link to b the bcci which
01:34:52.740 is a private bank i believe we mentioned the last one which is the dirtiest bank of them all and was
01:34:58.180 also alleged to have been involved in the sex trafficking of minors according to the report
01:35:02.980 titled the bcci affair by then u.s senators john kerry and hank brown bcci officials were alleged
01:35:11.140 to have obtained leverage over and curried favor with powerful individuals including prominent
01:35:15.860 members of the ruling families of the united arab emirates by providing them with young virgins
01:35:21.300 many of whom were under the age of 18. so you know during this time jet like this is already going on
01:35:28.180 And Jeffrey Epstein appears in this world, knowing these people that were already kind of doing this on an international scale, again, because we're used to all this stuff happening on Jeff Epstein's island.
01:35:40.620 But, you know, as we saw in the last episode, the connections go right across the world.
01:35:45.980 They go to Beirut.
01:35:47.400 They go to Russia.
01:35:48.420 They go all over the fucking place where stuff like this is happening probably much more easily.
01:35:53.360 Now, we get into Lex Wexner again, who I believe we mentioned last time, too.
01:35:57.360 He says, according to a Columbus, Ohio police document from the early 90s, numerous Lex Wexner linked entities like the Wexner Investment Company, SNJC Holdings and PFI Leasing shared the same office space and telephone number.
01:36:14.600 He's the richest man in Ohio.
01:36:16.980 As I've documented in my books and a series of articles,
01:36:19.720 he's been linked to crimes that have been covered up by the Columbus Police Department,
01:36:25.320 leaving murders, among other things, unsolved to allow him to continue to engage in the impunity
01:36:32.360 that he has enjoyed pretty much ever since he began engaging in criminal activity,
01:36:38.460 which as far as I can tell at least goes back to at some point in the early 1980s around the time
01:36:44.980 he was you know becoming a billionaire which I believe was in 1985 or so his money is everywhere
01:36:52.300 and honestly he has extremely deep ties to numerous officials in the Israeli government
01:36:58.780 through his philanthropies he focused uh pretty much the bulk of the Wexner Foundation on training
01:37:05.900 up prominent figures first in the U.S. and the Jewish community in particular. And now those
01:37:13.460 fellows, those Wexner fellows, essentially run AIPAC. It has an extremely close relationship
01:37:18.980 with AIPAC, obviously one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the United States. And the
01:37:24.620 other side of his leadership training via his foundation has been with Israeli public officials
01:37:30.360 who have you know these relationships as a result of that with wexner one of the companies that
01:37:37.340 shared the space was originally named luex it was named after a part and later renamed park
01:37:42.900 view financial records from 1990 list leslie wexner as parkview's director whereas epstein
01:37:50.000 is listed as vice president and treasurer in 91 dara partners lp was created apparently to manage
01:37:57.500 the condominium complex that they were in uh the filing lists osa properties as the owner with
01:38:03.000 offices at 457 mass avenue the very place for epstein and gulatas shared offices uh those
01:38:10.320 apartments at 301 east 66th street would play a role in epstein's sexual trafficking and blackmail
01:38:16.560 activities for instance the ehud barak former israeli prime minister and israeli military
01:38:23.580 intelligence chief was a frequent
01:38:25.780 visitor to this location so much
01:38:27.680 that the Daily Beast reported that
01:38:29.500 numerous residents of the Osa properties
01:38:31.740 owned apartment building had
01:38:33.680 seen Barack in the building multiple times
01:38:35.820 over the last few years and nearly half a dozen
01:38:37.740 more described running into his security detail
01:38:39.960 so you've got this like just building
01:38:41.760 with offices and they
01:38:42.720 there's like a brothel in there that oh we keep
01:38:45.500 running into this former Israeli
01:38:47.780 prime minister
01:38:48.580 which is so fucking
01:38:50.840 deliciously suspicious
01:38:53.060 It goes on.
01:39:23.060 such a trust in an outsider with a thin resume and scant financial experience with that outsider
01:39:30.300 being jeffrey epstein it's like everyone knows like you got a guy like leslie wexner who's this
01:39:36.780 fucking highly successful jew right like who who's this what are you putting so much trust in
01:39:44.200 this jeff epstein guy yet as noted in the last two chapters epstein was hardly the outsider that
01:39:49.720 mainstream media and this and his associates indeed outsider epstein was reportedly introduced
01:39:55.100 to wexner in 85 by a well-connected insurance executive named robert meister who's a close
01:40:02.440 friend at the time see it's all jews all the way down of course so you got this guy epstein being
01:40:08.840 like introduced to people and meeting with presidents and stuff like why the fuck is this
01:40:13.900 guy meeting with them even especially during those early years um in addition to his influence
01:40:20.260 on the logistics of leslie wexner's own businesses epstein became increasingly enmeshed with wexner's
01:40:26.980 real estate interest during and shortly after this period particularly in new york city
01:40:31.320 this would include wexner's acquisition of the manhattan townhouse epstein would inhabit and
01:40:37.000 where he would abuse countless underage women for several years enabled by glane maxwell and others
01:40:42.840 So you see Leslie Wexner becomes integral in just the properties aspect of this.
01:40:51.140 This is just a fun thing.
01:40:52.460 A bit more about Leslie Wexner.
01:40:53.900 It's hard to know exactly when the Wexner Foundation was originally created.
01:40:58.740 The official website for the foundation states clearly in one section
01:41:01.720 that the Wexner Foundation was set up in 83.
01:41:04.760 However, the 2001 obituary of Wexner's mother states that she and her son
01:41:09.100 created the foundation in 73.
01:41:11.000 The foundation's website states that the original purpose of the Wexner Foundation is to assist, quote, emerging professional Jewish leaders in North America and mid-career public officials in Israel.
01:41:24.580 Per the website, Wexner's main philanthropic endeavors were created after Wexner reached the conclusion that what the Jewish people needed most at that moment was stronger leadership.
01:41:34.900 Throughout the 80s, Wexner was, quote,
01:41:36.700 one of the largest individual contributors to the United Jewish Appeal in America.
01:41:42.040 And after creating the Wexner Heritage Foundation,
01:41:45.080 Wexner became the UGA's vice chairman.
01:41:48.300 While Wexner was serving in these capacities,
01:41:50.420 he also engaged in closed-door meetings with the highest levels of Israeli leadership,
01:41:55.420 not just about philanthropy, but about his business interests.
01:41:59.880 One specific meeting saw him meet with a top Israeli government official
01:42:03.320 about Chinese and Israeli
01:42:05.520 interests working with his company
01:42:07.220 known as The Limited to establish
01:42:09.440 factories in the occupied Golan
01:42:11.540 Heights. So they're already
01:42:13.540 like, do you want to build some
01:42:15.600 Chinese factories in this land we stole?
01:42:21.040 Just a bit more here on Wexner. It says,
01:42:22.900 Klaus Schwab's now infamous
01:42:24.700 Penetrate the Cabinets quote
01:42:26.800 may offer insight into Wexner's
01:42:29.460 own interests over the decades in
01:42:31.320 developing leaders in american jewish communities in israel and beyond with nearly 40 years focused
01:42:38.760 specifically on training men and women of influence in american jewish society ideas and policies
01:42:45.060 that benefit wexner both personally and professionally have been instilled into
01:42:49.400 generations of leaders and influencers who then go on to influence many others so you're starting
01:42:55.280 see leslie wexner occupy like the nucleus of this like he might be more of the prime mover in this
01:43:03.440 than epstein because and epstein is just in his orbit epstein is working in his office buildings
01:43:09.360 and using his properties to conduct these affairs and wexner is working hand in glove with the
01:43:15.200 israeli government um in a specific case of the wexner israel fellows wexner has been able to
01:43:22.640 penetrate key posts in israel's government and even its national security apparatus with people
01:43:28.160 he's funded and will participate in courses that were shaped by and reflect wexner's views over the
01:43:34.160 past two decades wexner's foray into becoming one of the main donors of the harvard kennedy school
01:43:40.720 allows for much of the same to occur but this time for leaders who operate and influence those outside
01:43:46.640 the Jewish community.
01:43:49.320 So, I mean, this really is just
01:43:50.660 the Jewish puppet master
01:43:52.620 behind everything, if you look at it that way.
01:43:57.700 That's the reason I'm focusing
01:43:58.940 on Wexner, because
01:44:00.060 this really is just
01:44:02.580 so much Jewish shit.
01:44:05.480 It goes on here, it says,
01:44:06.320 the same year he and Epstein began donating
01:44:08.800 to Harvard in 1991,
01:44:11.200 Leslie Wexner teamed up with
01:44:12.620 Charles Bronfman to establish
01:44:14.980 an exclusive group of 20 of the nation's wealthiest and most influential
01:44:18.960 Jewish businessmen, as referred to as either the study group
01:44:23.140 or the mega group. Though it was created in 91,
01:44:26.900 no media reports were written about the group until seven years later
01:44:30.800 in 1998, when a short report on the group was published in the Wall Street
01:44:34.960 Journal. The official focus of the group is Jewish philanthropy.
01:44:39.560 As for Steven Spielberg, the famous director, he is
01:44:42.740 he's the best known protege of
01:44:45.120 Lou Wasserman, the Hollywood mogul
01:44:47.040 of MCA and major
01:44:48.820 organized crime connections. So, like, you're seeing
01:44:50.640 intersections with
01:44:52.760 Steven Spielberg.
01:44:54.920 You know, you hear about, like, Tom
01:44:56.640 Hanks and all that shit. You're like, I don't have
01:44:58.740 Tom Hanks involved, but honestly,
01:45:01.020 man, I think Steven
01:45:02.720 Spielberg is up to something.
01:45:05.680 Like, if someone
01:45:06.840 had made a funny post, like, if you look at some
01:45:08.760 of his biggest
01:45:09.720 box office hits,
01:45:12.740 They seem to be very CIA aligned.
01:45:16.000 Like he just seems to have a certain like system friendly way.
01:45:19.900 What's that most recent one?
01:45:21.480 The disclosure disclosure day or whatever.
01:45:24.360 Yeah,
01:45:24.700 exactly.
01:45:25.300 It's just fucking,
01:45:26.040 just call it project blue book.
01:45:27.700 Come on.
01:45:28.220 Well,
01:45:28.500 basically.
01:45:29.060 Yeah.
01:45:29.300 So well,
01:45:29.660 here's my thing.
01:45:31.360 It's like everyone has a favorite director.
01:45:34.580 Is Steven Spielberg people's favorite director?
01:45:39.060 I'll be honest.
01:45:40.000 honestly i think i think anyone could have done jurassic park like directed it i i think you could
01:45:48.320 have given that uh john favreau i think you could have given that uh michael mann i think it would
01:45:55.440 have been better i think you could like brian de palma could have done jurassic park mm-hmm
01:46:01.680 fuck you fuck you spielberg okay you got some landmark films i don't think those came from your
01:46:07.840 head i think what we just like is animatronic dinosaurs and we like we'll take it however we
01:46:13.720 can get it hell yes how about that i spit upon the legacy of spielberg epstein's affiliation with
01:46:22.100 some national intelligence agency was essentially confirmed in 2019 when it was reported that
01:46:27.640 then secretary of labor alex acosta who had signed off on epstein's sweetheart deal during
01:46:33.720 in the first criminal case, had been told to back off Epstein,
01:46:37.500 that Epstein was above his pay grade.
01:46:40.860 And it's a quote here from Alex Acosta.
01:46:44.100 He says, I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone.
01:46:49.620 Acosta had reportedly told the Trump administration team.
01:46:52.860 It's unclear from Acosta's reported statement exactly what intelligence agency,
01:46:57.800 American or foreign Epstein, had been affiliated with and when.
01:47:01.200 It's entirely possible that, as Epstein once claimed, he worked for the CIA during a specific period, then later affiliated himself with another intelligence agency, I assume Assad, of course.
01:47:11.720 According to former Israeli military intelligence officer Ari Ben-Manash, who she first interviewed in December 2019, Epstein's affiliation with Israeli intelligence dated back to at least the mid-1980s, when Ben-Manash was personally introduced to Epstein by Robert Maxwell.
01:47:31.200 so there it is there's the story robert maxwell is in with epstein now he's in this world
01:47:37.960 as far back as the 80s maybe even before the 70s per ben benash maxwell introduced epstein as
01:47:44.580 having been approved by the higher ups in of israeli intelligence that network where ben
01:47:51.500 benash and maxwell were both operating so like there's a lot of this that is shrouded in mystery
01:47:57.740 i do want to believe that but i just wish i had more i wish i wish we had more in the early years
01:48:02.920 and it's it's troublesome that even now we don't have that maybe it's lurking somewhere in the
01:48:08.260 emails but a guy like this can't be a ghost like this you see what i'm saying how is anything about
01:48:15.840 epstein murky at in 2020 fucking six yeah i think maybe people don't care but she goes on here it's
01:48:26.640 worth noting that during and before this period of Epstein's career, both Israeli and British
01:48:32.340 intelligence were already involved in the acquisition of sexual blackmail domestically
01:48:36.680 within the United States. Some of the blackmail sources were call services operating in New York
01:48:42.180 and Washington that sexually exploited minors. In 1982, the New York State Select Committee on Crime,
01:48:50.180 which was investigating all the underage sex around America, saw committee investigator Dale
01:48:54.800 Smith revealed that an accountant for several call service operations in Washington, D.C.,
01:49:00.700 named Robert Koehler as selling, quote, information on the sexual proclivities of the clients to
01:49:06.400 agents of foreign intelligence agencies.
01:49:09.100 Two other call service operations were called Brian's Boys and Fantasies Unlimited, which
01:49:15.840 operated out of Alexandria, Virginia, and managed by Jonathan C. Reynolds III.
01:49:21.840 Reynolds told Smith that he was, quote, selling information out of the call services specifically to, quote, British and Israeli intelligence.
01:49:31.220 So, again, outside of Epstein, they've had operations like this all the time.
01:49:37.440 And, of course, it seems that the most obvious targets would be pedophiles.
01:49:41.900 We need to find the high-ranking pedophiles.
01:49:43.640 We've got to entrap them.
01:49:45.080 I mean, back then, gay might have been enough.
01:49:49.240 Now it isn't.
01:49:50.080 you know doesn't no one gives a shit about that she goes on here says as previously mentioned the
01:49:55.800 specific house that epstein would occupy 971st listed as being the huntington center in columbus
01:50:02.580 ohio in 1989 indeed after it was purchased by 90 17 71st street corp wexner appeared to have
01:50:11.160 moved into the property despite spending over 13 million dollars to purchase the property
01:50:15.140 and at least the same amount on artwork and art deco furnishings and such.
01:50:21.340 The refurnishing effort in some reports have been estimated to cost tens of millions of dollars.
01:50:26.140 In addition, security devices, including a network of cameras,
01:50:30.620 were installed at that time of the residence's refurbishment
01:50:33.600 and the oddities of that particular security system
01:50:36.240 were described in a New York Times article from 1996.
01:50:41.040 There have been considerable speculation that these very cameras
01:50:43.440 were used to record footage that was subsequently stored on numerous hard drives and CDs that were
01:50:48.640 known to law enforcement, both in the case of Epstein's first run-in with the law and in the
01:50:53.720 case of his 2019 arrest. Per the photographs taken at the time of the raid, hard drives were found
01:51:00.480 inside a safe forced open by the FBI and numerous large black binders were found in a closet that
01:51:07.620 contained CDs carefully categorized in plastic slipcovers and thumbnails with photos on them.
01:51:12.540 When shown in court, the homemade labels were redacted as Judge Allison Nathan had ruled they contained identifying information of third parties.
01:51:22.440 Sounds suspicious.
01:51:24.700 Now, so again, it's Epstein working with Lex Wexner, working with all these people.
01:51:33.340 He's not the one buying the properties they are.
01:51:35.500 He's just a guy who moves between them.
01:51:37.720 He's just the guy who facilitates all this to happen.
01:51:40.160 but there's even more nefarious third parties there's more nefarious people pulling the
01:51:47.000 strings of this entire thing that's why early on a lot of people were saying that epstein was just
01:51:52.640 like a fall guy you know he was just the the sacrifice they can make but the system that he
01:52:00.100 participated in is still there in one form or another of course because the his facilitators
01:52:06.960 his owners are way more deeply ingrained with the security apparatus in multiple different countries
01:52:14.400 that's why like epstein he's not an idiot right maybe he is i don't think he is but
01:52:24.100 he wasn't moving like the smartest guy in the room right he he he was operating like a nepo baby
01:52:33.000 in a sense the way he was flaunting money around the way it seemed his favorite thing to do was
01:52:39.520 just be in the room with important people and go to parties and hobnob which is kind of a tell that
01:52:45.020 he didn't he didn't deserve to be there you know what i mean like everybody said like oh it's weird
01:52:48.860 because he didn't have any credentials and nobody knew where he came from yeah because he wasn't
01:52:51.460 actually one of you he was actually an interloper and he didn't know how to behave yeah he didn't
01:52:57.100 know how to have money like he had he he spent money in weird ways you know he did he was not
01:53:02.040 dignified with people like he wasn't raised around it i'm not saying he was poor but i don't know he's
01:53:08.200 it was like a 14 year old's version of it's like i bet you have sex parties i'm gonna get rich and
01:53:14.760 have sex parties all the time um now we get into jillian maxwell here he says jillian did not escape
01:53:22.520 the abuse that was known to befall robert maxwell's other children while brothers kevin and ian were
01:53:28.680 well-known to regularly receive tongue lashes from their father jelaine received pre-arranged
01:53:33.980 hidings or beatings from her father robert maxwell had firm control over young jelaine's life
01:53:40.000 this is particularly true when it came to her love life through her teens and into her time
01:53:44.940 in university when he reportedly would ban her boyfriends from the family home and try and keep
01:53:49.680 her from being seen with him publicly such behavior could be attributed merely to being
01:53:54.740 fatherly he later went into great lengths uh to promote jillane's affairs with certain individuals
01:54:01.580 particularly those who inhabited elite circles so and he had a publishing empire at the time this
01:54:06.820 was robert maxwell um and we discussed his many imprints in the last one but he kind of switched
01:54:13.140 from being protective of his daughter to like being almost singularly responsible for running
01:54:19.120 tabloids on who she was sleeping with especially if it benefits some other scheme which would
01:54:24.340 imply that he was like pimping her out at that point. This behavior suggested Robert Maxwell
01:54:29.220 may have seen Ghislaine's sexuality as a useful tool in growing his influence empire beginning
01:54:34.480 when she was quite young. It also may have contributed to Ghislaine's willingness years
01:54:39.980 later to sexually exploit and abuse the young women she targeted alongside another man often
01:54:45.560 compared to her father, Jeffrey Epstein. During the late 1980s, Robert Maxwell's media empire
01:54:52.780 began to falter and he had overextended his finances part of the reason behind his rapid
01:54:57.400 and arguably hasty expansion was related to his rivalry with fellow media baron rupert murdoch
01:55:03.500 one of these purchases was maxwell's acquisition of maxim uh mcmillian inc where robert pyre
01:55:10.660 president of rothschild incorporated had been serving as cheap tactician on maxwell's offensive
01:55:16.320 against that particular company it was also reported that maxwell's effort to acquire
01:55:20.800 Macmillan was part of a campaign to establish a strategic presence in the United States.
01:55:26.720 The Times report notes that although the family staked valuable claims in Africa, the Middle East, and South America,
01:55:32.940 they grossly misjudged the opportunities directly across the Atlantic and in the United States.
01:55:38.980 It quotes Evelyn de Rothschild as saying,
01:55:42.320 We've been in business for 200 years, but we never seized the initiative in America.
01:55:46.120 In 1981, the French and British Rothschild cousins determined to rectify their mistaken and appointed Robert Pyre as their agent.
01:55:54.880 They tasked him with building a powerful investment bank that would help the family reassert its dominant role in international finance.
01:56:01.720 After Maxwell purchased Macmillan with the help of Pyre and Rothschild Incorporated, so they're all working together now,
01:56:09.520 he indeed used the company to establish a foothold in the U.S., specifically in New York.
01:56:13.420 There, he would begin a sprawling influence operation to cultivate the city's elite, which would intimately involve his daughter, Ghislaine.
01:56:23.300 So he's pimping out his daughter.
01:56:25.480 He's trying to take over the elite scene in New York City with the help of the Rothschilds foreigners.
01:56:30.860 They're starting banks.
01:56:31.820 They're basically just trying to take over New York.
01:56:34.320 And that's how Ghislaine Maxwell hits the scene.
01:56:36.860 And that's who Robert Maxwell is working for.
01:56:39.760 I mean, I know her really well.
01:56:42.700 And I know how she operates, and that's why I'm so afraid that she's still on the loose.
01:56:46.600 And I know who's taking care of her. I know it is the Rothschild. I know it is.
01:56:50.180 And I'll tell you how I know, because Lady Rothschild is ready to kill me.
01:56:54.500 That is not a random internet theory. That is Maria Farmer,
01:56:58.080 the woman described in this source as the first Epstein victim to report Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to the FBI back in 1996,
01:57:05.960 making one of the most explosive claims in this entire interview.
01:57:08.980 And that's the frame for this whole video.
01:57:11.280 Not how did Epstein die, but who stayed protected, who stayed connected,
01:57:15.520 and who Maria Farmer says was always bigger than Epstein himself.
01:57:18.960 The visible event in this clip is Maria Farmer recounting what Ghislaine Maxwell told her directly in the 1990s,
01:57:24.660 that Jeffrey Epstein had been assigned to protect her after Robert Maxwell's death.
01:57:28.720 Farmer treats that line as one of the strangest and most revealing things Ghislaine ever said to her.
01:57:34.140 This is interesting.
01:57:35.920 Maxwell died under suspicious circumstances on his yacht in November 1991.
01:57:43.580 Though media reports often say that his death was most likely a suicide,
01:57:47.200 several biographers, investigators, and Ghislaine herself assert that he was murdered,
01:57:52.600 having hit the end of the line in terms of his usefulness to those who had empowered his legal and illegal activities over the years.
01:57:59.760 Many have asserted that rogue Mossad agents had been responsible, including Ghislaine herself.
01:58:08.540 Ghislaine reportedly blames a dark conspiracy of Mossad renegades and Sicilian contract killers for taking her father's life.
01:58:16.900 As previously mentioned, the books on Robert Maxwell's troubled businesses, several of which were insolvent, at the time were subsequently investigated, quote, investigated by the Rothschilds later on.
01:58:29.760 It later emerged that during this period and the years that followed, Ghislaine had shifted from being dependent on her father to being entirely dependent on Jeffrey Epstein for her lavish lifestyle.
01:58:42.860 So she switched from her father to this other old Jew.
01:58:46.980 Some acquaintances of Ghislaine had since claimed that she started working for Epstein immediately after her father died.
01:58:53.080 Ghislaine and Jeffrey Epstein's
01:58:55.640 public relationship is believed to have
01:58:57.220 officially begun in 1991
01:58:59.100 during a tribute dinner at the Plaza Hotel
01:59:01.800 in Robert Maxwell's honor
01:59:03.500 where Epstein sat at the same table of Ghislaine
01:59:05.760 according to the media reports
01:59:07.780 this was Ghislaine's first step
01:59:09.320 into publicly announcing her deep affection
01:59:11.880 for Jeffrey Epstein
01:59:13.580 I know that I can get going soon
01:59:17.400 but I think we're just going to skip to the end here
01:59:18.920 so over this course we've seen the development
01:59:21.080 of this entire system
01:59:22.000 we know how Epstein and Glenn Maxwell
01:59:24.380 meet, we know how her father factors into
01:59:26.340 us, we know Leslie Wexner, we know how all
01:59:28.280 these parts are fitting together
01:59:29.860 and it sort of narrows
01:59:32.320 onto Epstein from here
01:59:33.420 it goes on, the exact day
01:59:36.300 that Jeffrey Epstein began sexually
01:59:38.220 abusing women and underage girls is
01:59:40.180 unclear. Court documents placed the beginning
01:59:42.260 somewhere in the mid-1980s
01:59:44.220 specifically around 1985
01:59:46.300 the year he met Wexner
01:59:48.440 and around the time he was alleged to have
01:59:50.360 become affiliated with Robert Maxwell and Israeli intelligence.
01:59:54.020 So 1985 is when he hits the scene,
01:59:57.000 and this all seems to happen at around the same time.
02:00:00.180 One accuser, referred to as Jane Doe No. 2 in court documents,
02:00:03.800 accused Epstein of sexually assaulting, abusing, and battering her
02:00:07.080 beginning in 1985 when she was 23.
02:00:10.720 Another accuser in the same lawsuit, Jane Doe No. 1,
02:00:13.400 said she was 14 years old when Epstein began abusing her in 1990.
02:00:18.500 Thus, by the time he began publicly associating himself with Maxwell, Epstein allegedly already engaged in horrific acts of sex abuse against young women, including underage girls.
02:00:30.620 Though the details of the abuse suffered by his earliest victims are scarce, much of Epstein's early sex crimes appear to be linked to his connections to the modeling industry.
02:00:40.500 Jean-Luc Brunel was key to Epstein's activities as it relates to the modeling industry.
02:00:46.600 Brunel first became prominent in that industry in his native France in the 80s.
02:00:51.080 Further evidence of Brunel's role in Epstein's sex trafficking operation can be seen in the memos seized from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion by the police.
02:01:01.940 One memo taken by Epstein's staff noted that Brunel had called and left a message for Epstein that read, quote,
02:01:08.840 He has a teacher for you to teach you Russian.
02:01:12.000 She is two times eight years old, not blonde.
02:01:15.780 Lessons are free, and you can have first today if you call.
02:01:19.020 In court, the two-times-eight-year-old claim was suggested by lawyers, including Brad Edwards, as potentially referring to two eight-year-old girls.
02:01:27.580 However, others believe it was a coded way of referring to a single 16-year-old girl.
02:01:33.520 In addition, and that's like, once you actually look in the numbers here, it could be either it was a two eight-year-old girls or one 16-year-old girl.
02:01:43.540 Both aren't great.
02:01:44.900 one is worse
02:01:46.640 but other than that
02:01:49.560 how the fuck can you interpret that
02:01:51.500 sort of memo
02:01:52.140 in addition Epstein is believed to have had many
02:01:55.420 of his underage victims photographed in the
02:01:57.480 nude pictures which were displayed all
02:01:59.580 over his Palm Beach mansion
02:02:01.000 when first raided by police
02:02:03.500 in 2005 which sounds
02:02:05.480 like something he would do
02:02:06.600 in addition to the girls
02:02:09.440 lured to his sex trafficking operation
02:02:11.380 from the worlds of modeling, art and music
02:02:13.660 Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell sought to use many of the same tactics to bring vulnerable
02:02:18.240 local girls who they could exploit to their benefit. Many would become sexually abused by
02:02:23.220 Epstein as well as Maxwell herself, while others were cultivated to serve other roles in the
02:02:27.900 operation, such as that of a recruiter. In the 2021 criminal case against Maxwell, minor victim
02:02:35.000 number four, who testified under her first name, Carolyn, was victim of Jeffrey Epstein in Florida,
02:02:40.700 who was sexually abused by him
02:02:42.700 up to three times a week for several
02:02:44.620 years.
02:02:46.680 And the details, we don't get
02:02:48.700 into the disgusting details
02:02:50.480 where Ghislaine would
02:02:51.660 get her to massage
02:02:55.000 Epstein in the nude and whatnot.
02:02:58.280 But she almost always went
02:03:00.380 to do this with Ivana
02:03:02.580 Trump, Trump's ex-wife.
02:03:05.520 And so they went together all
02:03:06.600 the time going around in cars
02:03:08.760 talking to these young girls
02:03:10.040 and that they would exchange information
02:03:12.260 and the next day those girls would be in Epstein's office.
02:03:15.140 Maria was in that car.
02:03:16.880 She was watching these exchanges happen,
02:03:19.020 sitting right there as Ghislaine and Ivana
02:03:21.080 pulled up to schools at dismissal time.
02:03:23.460 Victoria's Secret was the pitch.
02:03:25.680 12-year-olds in school uniforms with braces,
02:03:28.180 that's who they were approaching.
02:03:30.020 And this wasn't one time.
02:03:31.640 Maria said it happened almost every time they went out together.
02:03:35.160 Ghislaine told Maria,
02:03:36.660 because Maria would come along in the car,
02:03:38.260 they'd be like, come with us,
02:03:39.180 like she's like the lane would take her shopping and all this stuff she'd be like get in the car
02:03:42.600 let's go you know and she would like stay in the car and like see these exchanges happen you know
02:03:47.980 um but one thing she did tell me is that they asked the kids about their grades they only
02:03:54.160 wanted the kids with good grades they wanted smart kids and they wanted talented kids like
02:03:59.720 creative kids it says here's the end it says epstein's decision to court and gather dirt
02:04:05.640 on big tech scions while also rebranding as a tech investor and entrepreneur and he was doing
02:04:11.460 this later on was carefully calculated indeed he and the maxwells were intimately aware of how the
02:04:17.620 digital revolution was drastically reshaping the face of blackmail and influence operations
02:04:23.320 arguably beginning with the promise software scandal which we mentioned last episode
02:04:28.700 which intimately involved the maxwells the utility of bugged software to intelligence agencies but
02:04:34.780 quickly became obvious with a few lines of code intelligence agencies could gain access to troves
02:04:41.380 of sensitive data in real time which previously would have required scores of highly embedded
02:04:46.820 and sophisticated spies yet those spies could be caught if just one of their networks slipped up
02:04:52.460 while Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell throughout the 90s and beyond blackmailed
02:04:57.060 powerful people using trafficked women and girls the digital revolution offered them and their
02:05:02.920 benefactors a new opportunity to fulfill the same operational goals both much less risk while this
02:05:10.000 shift may have provided new opportunities for Epstein and Maxwell it also made them irrelevant
02:05:15.360 if software can be exploited to extract and compile secrets and artificial intelligence
02:05:20.660 can then analyze that information then human operators of previous varieties of blackmail
02:05:25.440 schemes became increasingly unnecessary so and that's where the book pretty much ends it doesn't
02:05:30.760 get into epstein suicide it doesn't speculate on how that happened it really just ends with that
02:05:36.560 it's it's the it's the rise and immediate fall of jeffrey epstein but it doesn't get any
02:05:43.200 conspiracies on who did what but i think you know the statement there i think is true i'd love to
02:05:51.040 hear what you think about that but i tend to think that he was made obsolete that's why he was
02:05:55.380 sacrificed to make this go away he knew too much he was gathered and that's kind of something you
02:06:00.920 see in the first volume where you're working with organized crime to get the blackmail they can also
02:06:08.080 get blackmail against you and they did what else did jeffrey epstein that what else did he have on
02:06:13.320 everybody else right so he was a massive liability which you know maybe ai software doesn't have
02:06:20.320 but like he was killed because he was unnecessary and his bosses the wexners of the world the roy
02:06:27.140 cones of the world who would have been passed away by this point but like the real jews in charge
02:06:31.700 they don't need this little fucking prancing playboy you know causing problems his pimp
02:06:37.040 girlfriend right out there in the news he's doing all this shit everyone knows about him
02:06:43.140 yeah he's already been arrested he's he's a fucking headline and drawing attention to this
02:06:49.880 which he is still
02:06:51.580 but I tend to think that's true
02:06:54.220 I think he was just
02:06:55.480 disposed of and people thought it would go away
02:06:58.060 but like we said
02:06:59.500 the system has evolved
02:07:01.400 the system is far more pernicious
02:07:03.780 than it used to be and really
02:07:05.920 remember what this is about
02:07:08.080 this is about
02:07:09.740 getting blackmail to use
02:07:11.860 against people to secure your interest
02:07:13.760 that's all it ever fucking was
02:07:16.040 they're just changing who they
02:07:17.900 need to deal with to get that
02:07:19.760 anyway so what do you think about all that um yeah i mean that was kind of conclusion to the
02:07:27.360 previous one too i guess is that a lot of this people even people who are going the anti-semitism
02:07:32.880 route or want to say it's the jews it you can there's an element of it where it's like jews
02:07:37.880 are going to be jews but this really is like it's it's israel's war on the world because we're
02:07:44.120 talking about massad you're talking about the state of israel right so it's jews but it's also
02:07:49.200 the state of israel and greater israel which is to say all these jewish politicians and like pack
02:07:55.360 guys in the u.s like wexner who are part of this like i was thinking about when you said the part
02:08:01.400 about um he got funding for all these these uh israeli politicians i mean israel itself people
02:08:07.420 get confused where it's like well these israeli politicians their their real loyalty is with
02:08:12.840 israel you know the ones in the u.s but like the u.s is real new york is more israel than israel
02:08:19.440 israel hasn't even been around that long but new york's been around a long time and that's always
02:08:23.260 been jewish territory right so there's a some kind of greater israel some kind of rootless
02:08:28.640 cosmopolitan super state that exists across all western nations and israel is just like their
02:08:33.840 their manicured backyard but uh and that's why i love leslie wexner they're like his role of like
02:08:40.160 he's in new york he's in america he may as well be the president of israel or he's the president
02:08:44.540 of greater israel he's got more power and influence and money than anyone in israel does
02:08:49.640 and he's using it to extract money and project it into israel right like they're building israel
02:08:54.580 from the jewish boardrooms of new york and that's what the power seems to actually fucking be
02:09:00.060 but yeah it's it's again so much more like if you epstein's one thing he is jewish but oh he
02:09:08.660 he doesn't wear a yarmulke he isn't doing that shit but like his bosses do like his handlers
02:09:14.900 do these are extremely and and their stated goal is to i think that's why i love leslie wexner is
02:09:21.700 like i'm basically trying to instill i'm trying to brainwash an entire generation of leaders
02:09:26.900 for to align with israeli interests that's what he's saying that's what he's doing through
02:09:31.140 several organizations yeah how many more leslie wexner's are there
02:09:35.220 how many more robert maxwell's are there those are the real motherfuckers these are the guys
02:09:41.360 going to like war zone like doing lord of war type shit yeah anyway i know i've kept you long
02:09:47.980 enough i know we gotta get going now but yeah i i like that i'd like that we covered a bit more
02:09:53.060 about epstein some other dimensions there than maybe people haven't been exposed to again this
02:09:59.020 is whitney webb there's other people who've covered this as well but i mean this is a real
02:10:03.640 rabbit hole you can get lost in.
02:10:06.440 I would encourage people not to go too deep
02:10:08.260 into it, but
02:10:08.980 the surface level of it's pretty
02:10:12.180 bad.
02:10:14.980 It's way worse
02:10:16.420 than you think, and you learn that right away.
02:10:18.980 Anyway, I'll let you go now.
02:10:20.880 Yeah, no worries, dude.
02:10:21.460 All right, talk to you later.
02:10:33.640 and that's when i told him korea's the poland of asia anyway dives great to hear from you man
02:10:43.700 i love that i yoink that's all i'll say my new favorite bit is referencing funny things the
02:10:54.100 audience has no reference like has no ability to comprehend going back to our earlier comments
02:10:59.220 about leaving them uh just confused and angered it's uh it's horrible podcasting but i find it
02:11:05.120 very entertaining that's my whole show baby well i'm in a desperate attempt to keep this
02:11:12.780 on track because the last episode was supposed to be this episode yeah it ended up being about
02:11:19.660 something different we just got going they jay cast a spell on me you get going and uh yeah
02:11:28.100 it happened to the best of us i blacked out i went into a fugue state and turns out we just got some
02:11:33.680 hot hot takes out of it but then you know you look at the clock and it's too late
02:11:39.100 and i just had such a good time and jay was so gracious to offer a second appearance and of
02:11:46.640 course he's trying to sabotage me of course he's loving setting this trap where it's going to be
02:11:51.880 too much everyone's loving the first one then then they see a heaping helping of me again they're
02:11:58.680 like enough enough of this shit i work off the same logic that drug dealers in 1980s psas do
02:12:08.480 right where it's like the first one's free and then that's how i get you and you know an astute
02:12:16.800 listener might notice wait aren't they all free and i was listening anyway so how does this get
02:12:21.980 you and i i would say you are thinking too much about this let me cook yeah i'm like a drug dealer
02:12:28.720 in the 1940s where i just give away drugs for free because no one really understands economics yet
02:12:33.860 you know what is this is this is this money is it fucking product i don't know it doesn't
02:12:41.160 this is not work this business is horrible you've given away all our product we spent
02:12:45.800 i found this crate covered in chinese letters and let's just distribute it and that's how the cia
02:12:54.420 was started it just works like windrar where it's like please hey please remember this is not a free
02:13:00.520 service please tip your dope boy that's so funny that's so funny like the idea of like a nerdy
02:13:06.160 crack dealer it's like okay you know i bet eventually they're gonna feel so much shame
02:13:11.600 at me bothering them they're gonna you know i mean like it's a very libertarian way of thinking
02:13:16.340 like eventually they don't give us a ton of money because they'll think how many years have i been
02:13:21.460 using winrar for i'm gonna send them twenty thousand dollars there are two ways to take this
02:13:27.120 one which is the like the sort of like uh you know like mid-2000s sketch comedy show
02:13:33.340 where the joke is oh you know it's a it's a nerd but he's a crack dealer and he dresses like he's
02:13:40.320 super hard but he's not that therein lies the joke in my mind the true funny dynamic is imagining
02:13:45.860 someone trying to socially shame crack addicts into giving them money which is a very funny concept
02:13:52.940 here's another thing that just occurred to me facebook lays off you know 100 000 people
02:14:00.420 recently daily wire just laid off you know a third of its staff has winrar ever had any layoffs
02:14:09.700 have you ever heard of anyone getting fired from winrar after all this time
02:14:13.620 this is a actually a very good point how many people work here
02:14:19.540 it seems like the most stable investment if i if i can go long on winrar i'm doing it i'm saying
02:14:27.040 is because i don't know what i'm talking about i don't know how to invest but sounds safe to me
02:14:32.180 i'll ask stormy waters what he thinks of this
02:14:35.140 yes uh somewhat related there there are a series of companies that exist on kind of both ends of
02:14:45.180 how many people work there they're just baffling like wikipedia has way way more employees than
02:14:52.540 you'd think and craigslist right the the kind of you know default way to buy things i think there's
02:14:59.340 only like 10 people working there which kind of makes sense but like i don't know in my mind there
02:15:04.840 should be more yeah for an organization like that and then you hear that caleb hammer has like 35
02:15:13.440 people working for his show for his company i just these numbers don't make sense to me anymore i
02:15:20.080 don't know who's doing what yeah wikipedia has 1400 employees which is kind of crazy like isn't
02:15:27.620 the whole point that they use volunteers like what do they do yeah well this you know if you
02:15:33.040 were to tell me that wikipedia was a giant money laundering scheme i'd believe you that's just been
02:15:38.200 a financial black box for a long time it's it's always they're always lying about needing money
02:15:43.420 people have peeked behind the curtain and seen how much not revenue but they have an idea of how much
02:15:49.780 what their holdings are but every three months they're doing a a begging drive for money they
02:15:55.540 never need it it's something else it's just something rotten in wikipedia but i don't think
02:16:01.520 anyone cares to look anymore they just accept it that's in the background of the internet and
02:16:07.380 i think if it disappeared nothing it wouldn't matter if if wikipedia was gone no one would
02:16:13.960 give a shit but i don't know i just they kind of like they like it being there and they you need
02:16:21.540 to give something for these you know i i don't want to use any bad words in your show i don't
02:16:27.100 want to get you in trouble let's say gender confused people you got to get them something
02:16:32.020 to do all day but that puts all the autists out of work so i don't know there's no easy answer
02:16:39.820 we need to talk about canada yes how many how many minutes are in six minutes all right this
02:16:45.700 is good this is why he's a good host six minutes on a bit that no one else understands this is a
02:16:51.420 good host this is how you know you're hosting at a level that is rarely seen see people always
02:16:59.300 made fun i don't reference tucker for the second time in this conversation but people made fun of
02:17:05.060 uh you know tucker for you know the way that he handled the vladimir putin interview but think
02:17:10.040 about how much cooler it would have been if he was like all right vlad how many people work at
02:17:15.360 wikipedia like that's the kind of content we really need from world leaders like your your
02:17:19.400 opinion on on a hit on history philosophy uh the arts irrelevant i want uh kind of you know uh like
02:17:27.580 ballroom trivia and crazy facts imagine they'd be talking just interrupting him
02:17:34.320 at an odd time like after minute seven going mr potent do you like pussy
02:17:39.720 apparently he does isn't he rumored to have a like a ballerina daughter or something
02:17:47.540 yeah i mean he's at least tried it once okay i didn't know where you're going with that i'm
02:17:54.420 like yes but yeah he he tried it once he tried it which maybe that's all you need really results
02:18:02.200 indeterminate he's okay you know i take it a little bit i like to believe that putin is is
02:18:07.720 having a lot of sex but then i think do what is is it better if it's zero or a ton you know what i
02:18:15.140 mean i'm doing everything i can to not talk about well do you remember i can't remember i i don't
02:18:26.140 know who did this it was one of the kind of like big progressive accounts uh it was this was like
02:18:32.200 kind of the classic millennial coded reactions to uh biden winning the presidency it was like wow
02:18:40.200 this is such a great day i hope that that joe and joe go home and have the that the dirtiest
02:18:46.940 raunchiest sex imaginable and she went into much greater detail than i will and you know uh it's a
02:18:54.040 it's humor you know there's in imagining such a thing but also uh no thank you i know that's okay
02:19:02.200 you know i'm that man is too old to eat solid food i'm glad you brought that up because i too
02:19:07.860 had noticed that during the biden years liberals had never been more sexually wretched i saw them
02:19:15.460 saying just abhorrent things about tim wallace's penis speculating on like everyone was it was
02:19:23.040 horny in a way that i've never seen very performative but very you know like like a
02:19:29.420 centibite would it was it was divorce and pleasure even well and that's the weird thing right that
02:19:36.060 Like the more performatively horny someone is, you know, the less they're actually getting down to it.
02:19:41.900 Because, you know, you look back at, you know, the Victorians, right, famously prudish people, but they popped out kids.
02:19:48.920 They were doing something, you know.
02:19:51.040 And then now it's like, oh, you know, I think it's what, 50% of men under 30 haven't had sex in a year.
02:19:56.680 And you're like, well, clearly this performative horniness isn't going anywhere.
02:20:01.000 It's just, you know, performative horniness for horniness's sake.
02:20:04.220 the performative horniness is sort of the last dying gasp of sexuality it's proclaiming
02:20:11.460 to the world that i am a sexual being because you're not confident at all and and you know
02:20:17.500 the other extension of that is getting very strange about sex so and other people have
02:20:23.000 pointed this out wiser people have pointed this out how i think this it's more evident with young
02:20:28.320 people like gen z but you see it's millennials too um and maybe they pioneered it with reddit
02:20:34.520 and whatnot but you know seeing a hot woman what is what am i saying a hot woman fuck me right
02:20:41.880 but you know they're like oh she's hot i want her to crush my head in her thighs they're getting
02:20:47.000 violent the only way you're allowed to approach whoriness is if you're being dominated and not
02:20:53.280 just dominated but dominated violently and that that's i don't remember that when i was younger
02:20:59.560 that's relatively new but i'm like that's not even sex you're just kind of you're doing this
02:21:05.800 sort of ghost dance just screaming to the world i'm a sexual being look at look at this twisted
02:21:11.780 stuff i think of but you know as someone who has had sex i'm like i i i smell a void inside of you
02:21:19.600 well it's sort of like it kind of smacks of the you know i my girlfriend goes to another school
02:21:28.900 you wouldn't know her we have she lets me touch her boobs all the time we're like do you know
02:21:35.220 what you're talking about here you know like it feels like this is entirely hypothetical you know
02:21:44.020 that this is something that you experience only as this kind of like performative online thing.
02:21:50.740 And there's this term, I can't remember where I stole it from, but safe horny, right? Which is
02:21:57.320 like, you're allowed to talk about that all you want. You're allowed to kind of throw out all of
02:22:04.940 the kind of like body memes. But if you're otherwise attracted to conventionally attractive,
02:22:11.120 particularly white women like that's just a a moral issue with you you're probably like a
02:22:17.320 pedophile if you notice the one that they like to throw out a lot yeah unless you're putting the
02:22:22.140 woman in control if what you're saying involves you projecting yourself unto them or approaching
02:22:29.200 them we're saying what you would do to them in a normal healthy way they say yikes but if you're
02:22:35.920 saying man i would love these guys who are lying and saying they're into milfs they're lying and
02:22:43.560 saying like oh i look i like muscle mommies i like big women no you fucking don't that's just
02:22:49.160 what you feel like you're allowed to say you it's safe to be the woman who can kick the shit out of
02:22:54.000 you and that's where we're at to quote uh modern day philosopher shane gillett's you're getting
02:23:00.820 close i guess you're really getting close yeah it's it's more honest to just you know go to a
02:23:07.760 truck stop bathroom with a doing a you know a hole cutting auger at the end of your saw and just kind
02:23:13.560 of you know blast a hole in that uh in that stall door that's that's better guys we had a good thing
02:23:20.860 going with just the dumb bitch in a sundress in the wheat field that seems so quaint now doesn't
02:23:27.060 we all made fun of that that seems so simple and attainable that's just a dumb dress a bitch can
02:23:34.300 wear now you got this there's too much going on i honestly think we need to put a moratorium on
02:23:41.140 women until we figure out what's going on well i think we should uh for their own safety uh just
02:23:50.460 make uh xx chromosomes like a 35 years to life kind of criminal offense yes just right right
02:24:00.400 right from the rip yes i'm with you for for their own safety uh i will not be counting countenance
02:24:08.100 i will not be hearing put it in words that i can actually speak any objections to that
02:24:14.680 but dimes speaking of massive open-air prisons
02:24:18.160 yeah okay so i jay i went and done did a thing i made a little short documentary
02:24:30.480 which is a sequel to one i had released a year prior called paving over the public
02:24:36.440 and um i sent it over to you i don't know if you got time to watch it but if you didn't
02:24:42.000 say nothing and i'll just talk anyway but uh it's we put quite a bit of time and energy and
02:24:49.000 money into producing this and uh i wanted to come and speak about with you because it's really it's
02:24:55.600 centered on canada it's you know within the canadian context but i think it's applicable
02:25:00.000 to american audiences and also european audiences but i have so many american friends
02:25:04.700 it's such a a strong american network and uh i i think the things we discuss in it
02:25:12.060 are they'll find it very interesting um so it's titled how to make a canadian people
02:25:18.460 if i had to summarize it very very succinctly and we can talk about some of the themes we discuss
02:25:24.520 in it but uh it's about how to trigger an ethnogenesis in the 21st century and that alone
02:25:33.080 would require some unpacking, I'm sure.
02:25:35.840 But just to start, I released it a couple of weeks ago
02:25:39.740 and a lot of people worked on it
02:25:42.220 and the same crew as the first one.
02:25:44.940 And I'm very, very proud of it.
02:25:46.740 I'd say the first one set the stage
02:25:50.320 by discussing the history of mass migration in Canada
02:25:55.620 and getting into the history of what led us to that.
02:25:59.820 And specifically looking at public opinion polls from the 1940s up through the 20th century, showing census data and public opinion polls about what people actually thought about immigration, contrary to what you're told.
02:26:16.560 And I feel as if you're told this in America as well, that, well, we voted for it.
02:26:21.580 Your ancestors or family voted for this life that you have right now.
02:26:27.480 And then you realize that if you take a historical view, and many of your audience likely have done this, you understand that they were very vocal that they were not pro-immigration, but it happened anyway.
02:26:39.460 There was a bureaucratic subversion that occurred.
02:26:42.360 Because it's Canada and there's fewer people here, I found that the conspiracy was in sharper relief because we can trace this to a few specific prime ministers.
02:26:57.480 And, you know, it's across decades.
02:27:00.380 It's a bipartisan issue.
02:27:02.660 You can't really blame it on the liberals or the conservatives.
02:27:05.940 Those would be the Democrats or Republicans in America.
02:27:09.100 It cuts across all of politics.
02:27:11.900 What led us to here?
02:27:13.940 What led us to really opening the doors to, you know, it's as bad now as it's ever been,
02:27:21.760 but it really started around the same time as it started in the U.S. in the 1960s.
02:27:25.940 That was a big pivot point where you started seeing these laws being passed, in fact, against the proclamations of the prime minister. The entire time you had these political leaders saying, we're not going to do this. Mass migration sounds stupid. Why would we even want to do that? And then behind closed doors, they're doing it anyway.
02:27:45.840 and we don't need to discuss that entire documentary but that set the stage for this one
02:27:51.300 because we wanted to ask the question you know what is a canadian you know in america you have
02:27:57.700 a different self-awareness a different way uh you know different sort of history and a different
02:28:03.380 self-conceptualization um and you know canada and america are actually quite similar um they're at
02:28:09.660 odds now in a lot of ways but i mean it's it's not like canada versus fucking china it's not
02:28:15.180 canada versus nigeria you know i mean that's like some people act like we're separate continents and
02:28:21.140 i don't really have much patience for that there are differences okay fine and i'm curious to get
02:28:26.260 your thoughts on this because in my mind there has been a deliberate desire to paint canada as
02:28:39.300 sort of the better America, right? Like more American than America. And so you guys are
02:28:47.880 presented to us as what we could and what we ought to be by progressives. And the conception
02:28:55.660 is basically, you know, you guys have taken our values and done them even harder. It's what we
02:29:02.000 could be without you know evil racist chuds if we could just get rid of them and i'm also stricken
02:29:09.860 struck i cannot speak tonight dimes i deeply intolerable i i haven't noticed i i think it's
02:29:16.780 like shit through a goose it's coming it's smooth i've also noticed and i'm curious this is sort of
02:29:25.140 some point how much your politicians exist in relation to ours and look i get it america's the
02:29:34.400 world empire that's going to happen everywhere but there there is a weird conception or this
02:29:40.620 sort of weird development that canada has sort of become defined in relation to america
02:29:47.860 yeah well there's a by my count there's there's three good points there to address so
02:29:54.520 let me think that the first one was um what was the first one is about uh do we seem like
02:30:04.080 perfected america the second one was about can you just repeat i'm sorry i'm blanking i'm trying
02:30:09.680 to figure what sequence to answer those in so canada as was sort of perfected america canada
02:30:17.620 as you know america without the evil chuds and then you know kind of uh canada existing only in
02:30:26.080 relation to yeah yeah okay so what's interesting is that there's canada as it's portrayed in
02:30:33.320 america and it's different everywhere i assume i bet the opinion of canada in texas is different
02:30:39.060 than in california obviously but um i'm sure it's it's viewed from the outside and liberals would
02:30:45.040 see canada as a certain way okay so um canada's idea of itself is in i it's always been oppositional
02:30:58.180 to america and that's among liberals and conservatives and there is a historical
02:31:04.460 argument for that and we talked about this on our show we covered a great many canadian books
02:31:08.960 recently and i wrote this vanguardist journal article my substack about the the history of
02:31:15.540 anti-americanism in canada because a great many canadians view themselves as apart from america
02:31:22.620 and as more enlightened you know and this is when i was growing up this was the sentiment up here
02:31:28.580 that canada was more you know they'll say liberal but here's the thing there's been a good amount of
02:31:35.960 work put in by other content creators in our space right now like my friend for the sax uh the black
02:31:43.300 horse is another one um i think ferryman's toll would have probably spoken on this as well you
02:31:48.540 know there's a historical argument he made that the canada is less liberal than america it depends
02:31:54.760 how you define liberalism but it has always been less about individual liberty it's been less about
02:32:02.260 personal freedom and that's worked against us and for us in some regards but um they would look
02:32:08.620 upon canada and say look they are the actualization of american values and i think
02:32:13.900 like if you get down to the root of it i don't think so um they would just look at canada and
02:32:19.240 say oh look how clean and nice they are but you know canadians are also very passive aggressive
02:32:23.480 and british about it too but again it's not so different than in america they're not comparing
02:32:29.600 different races of people here frankly but canada since i was growing up always had to define itself
02:32:36.880 against america um in terms of its tone and tenor and character and we're just smarter than those
02:32:43.900 boorish americans which i never agreed with because you know you'll say that one time but
02:32:48.660 everyone's got like 20 000 americans that they like yeah americans are stupid except steve jobs
02:32:54.960 like shut the fuck up you know like and i was saying that when i was younger i'm like this is
02:32:58.540 this is a dumb thing that we're doing but it's something that people clung to and um so there's
02:33:04.740 a there's a historical argument for that as well with american interventionalism there's actually
02:33:08.940 quite a bit of military history between america and canada or british north america um you know
02:33:14.520 between america and britain at the time as well there's i won't get into the the nuts and bolts
02:33:21.020 of that but um so what the the next one from that was um the talking about the political class how
02:33:29.740 much our politicians take their cues from american politicians i would say very heavily
02:33:35.880 um see one of the issues is that americ canadian media is dominated by american media um just due
02:33:44.480 to the in the sense that the whole world is because american media is so dominant we live
02:33:48.700 right next door so obviously we're going to get so much media from america despite that canada
02:33:53.300 actually has a surprisingly active music and movie and television scene given its population size but
02:34:00.780 put that to the side um i'd say that most canadian politicians would be take would be living within
02:34:09.160 the american context or under the american shadow having to respond to arguments made by america you
02:34:17.260 saw this with donald trump talking about annexation that's one extreme example but you know even
02:34:23.120 during trump's first term if you were to walk to a newsstand anywhere in canada every major
02:34:30.000 newspaper was talking about donald trump and it was kind of a joke that during his first election
02:34:35.640 it coincided with one of our elections and every canadian was watching you know trump versus
02:34:42.880 Hillary. No one was watching our election. And so that's just one of those uncomfortable things
02:34:48.220 that people, you know, they complain about it, but the revealed preference shows something else.
02:34:55.120 Canadian politics isn't as interesting. And by, what do I mean by interesting? Because I don't
02:35:03.400 think you're going to see someone like Trump emerge. The conservatives are a lot more restrained
02:35:11.000 and muted and they don't really know what they're advocating for the liberals you know i i would say
02:35:17.020 that canada overall is more progressive especially by american standards here's the funny thing so
02:35:24.040 one of the reasons i never took the annexation talk from donald trump seriously is because i
02:35:30.640 don't think donald trump's an idiot i'm not a fan of donald trump for various reasons but on this
02:35:36.600 one issue i tend to think that he's at least thought it all the way through and i think he
02:35:41.740 understands that canada's population over around 40 million something like that it's this population
02:35:49.160 of canada is comparable to that of california and if america were to annex or absorb canada it would
02:35:57.520 be like getting a second california what do you think that does to american politics do you think
02:36:03.060 that fucks the republicans forever right do you think that that changes the state of play
02:36:09.860 significantly so it's like he wouldn't it wouldn't be in his interest or the republicans interest to
02:36:15.700 even do that so i didn't think they were going to do it that's something to keep in mind that
02:36:19.380 if you want to be of our political persuasion you know i'm not making any assumptions about
02:36:25.620 your specific policies but you know for people like us i find there's fewer of us in canada the
02:36:31.720 terrain is more hostile towards us that's changing i think but i mean there's a lot of
02:36:38.560 shit libs up here remember that justin trudeau was voted in pretty unanimously a couple of times
02:36:46.880 after after people saw how stupid and inept he was you see what i'm saying like there's
02:36:52.920 There's like Mark Carney, the one in a fucking landslide right now.
02:36:59.820 And Mark Carney is not your friend.
02:37:02.080 But anyway, we don't need to get too much in that.
02:37:04.640 But what I'm saying is that there's not a sort of conservative base comparable to America.
02:37:11.460 So you're dealing with a lot by American definitions.
02:37:15.720 You would say that Canada is overall more progressive, I think.
02:37:20.480 But there's a lot of rednecks.
02:37:22.080 there's a lot of guns there's all that stuff but i don't think you're ever going to see a prime
02:37:26.560 minister at least in my lifetime really take a crack at universal health care or any of the
02:37:34.820 fundamental issues did that answer any of your questions at all yes 100 as i flashed my face
02:37:43.800 on camera and we know what you look like jay you're a peach yeah but i'm sitting here in my
02:37:50.280 boxers well no one knows that i have a standing desk i'm wearing a suit directly i don't know
02:37:57.300 about you i i i dress for the occasion i dress over the jay burden show well thank you i appreciate
02:38:03.760 that in fact i demand that i'm wearing a tuxedo bottom that might be the most threatening single
02:38:14.420 item of actually which is worse if you round a corner in the ncd part of town and you have a
02:38:21.580 choice of seeing a guy sprinting towards you wearing only tuxedo top or tuxedo bottom which
02:38:28.320 would you pick tuxedo bottom because if i'm talking about my safety i know that okay this
02:38:36.040 this man's involved in a plot this man is involved he's the main character of whatever's happening
02:38:41.760 right now i my job is to get out of the way and get out of the way of whoever's chasing him
02:38:48.000 this is an indiana jones moment i'm excited i'm not you know i would not only would i rather see
02:38:54.860 that i hope i see that tomorrow all right fair enough so i've interrupted you from talking about
02:39:04.280 this documentary well no because this all ties into it because one thing we talked about in
02:39:09.080 documentary is the um outline of power politics in canada and uh it's a lot like elite theory i
02:39:16.860 know there's a lot of guests you've had on to talk about that like where are the power blocks
02:39:21.140 in canada who are the elite families and then where are they clustered in the western elites
02:39:27.000 the laurentian elites the quebecois elites um hold on i'm just gonna sorry i was just gonna
02:39:33.280 strange call there um yeah so where the civilizational power blocks are in canada
02:39:40.560 and then we build upon that um and so like this is all relevant as long as we're talking about
02:39:47.020 canada but as i'm discussing this it's not so different than america and it's really not so
02:39:52.240 different from europe because a lot of these we're dealing with a lot of the same phenomenon
02:39:58.740 We're dealing with a lot of the same, you know, the one thing about what led Canada down this path of mass migration, and I'm not trying to get too much in that sort of Klaus Schwab, Agenda 2030 stuff, but even going back to the 60s, there was this idea that, you know, globalism is happening.
02:40:19.780 Globalism is the future.
02:40:21.420 Who is jumping on that train?
02:40:23.280 And Canada jumped on very enthusiastically.
02:40:26.020 That's one of the reasons that they're pursuing mass migration, just because they thought this, if we want to be on the side of international trade, if we want to be on the side of this new paradigm, this is what we need to do.
02:40:36.980 And not only should we go along with this, we should be the vanguards of it.
02:40:41.420 we should be front and center in Canada for so long has taken, at least as political class,
02:40:46.700 taking great pride in being very involved in UN strategies, UN groups, topping the list of the
02:40:56.460 most progressive, the most multicultural, the most open. That's something it's pride itself on.
02:41:02.060 But that's because it feels it needs to, because that's the status quo. And they're not necessarily
02:41:06.880 wrong. You're seeing the same thing in Australia. You're seeing the same thing in fucking New Zealand.
02:41:11.420 all across the anglosphere it's the same story and i bet you if you're looking into it the you
02:41:17.500 know elite groups would be different different sizes and you know america is almost a an edge
02:41:24.820 case because its internal politics are so dynamic and its influence is so wide-reaching it has you
02:41:32.740 know so many different contained political battles going on right now but i would say for everyone
02:41:39.480 else, all across Europe, it's the same story, more or less. And very similar, I would hate to
02:41:45.660 call it populist, but nationalist pushback in various forms. And that's kind of what we were
02:41:52.220 taking here. If we're taking a nationalist approach, what is Canadian nationalism? It's
02:42:00.660 different than American nationalism, New Zealand nationalism. Like if you look at the red ensign
02:42:06.820 flag which was the original flag of canada before the maple leaf flag everyone's familiar with
02:42:11.840 there's a little shield on there and that shield contains the founding ethnicities of canada you
02:42:19.940 got the french got the english you got the irish and you know there's like four main ones so from
02:42:27.580 the beginning there's this idea and when people think of canada think french and english there's
02:42:33.340 demarcation there and you can never really reconcile those two there's a lot of tension
02:42:39.800 up here between the french and the english i think it's unfortunate i would like to move past that
02:42:44.980 but you know i talk to quebec nationalists all the time and it ain't fucking easy
02:42:49.680 it's hard to get a hold of them when they do it's like well you know if you want to reconcile this
02:42:55.420 you really the english have to change everything that they do it's like okay
02:42:59.000 whatever you should just counter with a reasonable you know a reasonable position
02:43:06.280 like you should take a shower here's the thing i'm trying to even move past the stereotypes
02:43:12.980 i love montreal i love quebec city i love poutine i should think i don't care that they do poutine
02:43:20.160 better in ontario i'm not even i'm not even gonna sweat them on that i just undid months
02:43:26.460 of good work with that comment but there's this idea in canada that at best and i made this claim
02:43:36.240 before that canada if you look at the structure of canada it's more like an empire an empire
02:43:44.040 doesn't just mean you're globally dominant but it's it's sort of this structure that contains
02:43:50.080 nations within it that's the form that most empires take especially as they expand they open
02:43:55.760 new frontiers and then absorb new areas in the periphery, then the periphery ends up filtering
02:44:01.280 towards the center. And so pretty much every empire throughout history has ended up multicultural,
02:44:07.320 which isn't to say every civilization does. But most, I can't think of an empire that hasn't.
02:44:14.640 So interestingly, Canada kind of functions like an empire, has all these contained ethnic groups
02:44:19.600 that it's trying to reconcile constantly it's been constantly trying to figure out what to do
02:44:26.900 with these groups that and we're not demanding really that they assimilate we don't have a
02:44:32.660 melting pot ideology up here in fact america never really had a melting pot that was a bit
02:44:37.500 of subversive fiction that was foisted upon you but there's this idea that what is a canadian
02:44:43.480 is a canadian one of these four founding stocks that's that's what most nationalists would believe
02:44:50.420 but it may really made me wonder that if we had to make a canadian what would a canadian be because
02:44:57.300 there's characteristics that you would assume canadians have but they tend to be of the anglo
02:45:02.020 variety but there's a lot of internal you know um conflict in america and canada rather right now
02:45:10.160 especially if you've heard about uh the alberta separation movement alberta wants to separate
02:45:17.080 part of that's driven by trump's annexation doc but not all of it they've been unhappy for a long
02:45:23.900 time i'm hearing the same thing from british columbia quebec has been talking about separating
02:45:28.840 since i was a teenager manitoba is talking about right now so every there's there's this idea you
02:45:36.140 don't claim that we've made that the promise of confederation what made canada well what made
02:45:43.280 canadian confederation that was the movement to unite canada from east to west was to create this
02:45:50.080 united landmass and connect it with one giant rail line to facilitate trade east and west so
02:45:56.500 we didn't all become dependent on american trade and business that ended up happening anyway but
02:46:04.620 the entire reason we had this confederation movement was to mutually benefit every province
02:46:12.800 financially. And I hate to say it, there's a strong argument to be made that we have not been keeping
02:46:20.020 up that promise. In fact, the government situated in Ontario has been, you know, handicapping
02:46:27.620 Alberta for quite some time. So that's all to say that there's a lot of problems up here that
02:46:34.100 People don't feel united politically.
02:46:37.600 They certainly don't feel united ethnically.
02:46:42.020 And so what is Canada?
02:46:44.800 Because can we even call ourselves a nation?
02:46:47.660 And we get into this in the film.
02:46:49.700 How do you define a nation?
02:46:50.960 Again, this is something many other larger creators have talked about.
02:46:56.440 We cite many books in this as well.
02:46:59.200 But, you know, the idea of nationalism or a nation of people goes back to the Middle Ages, even. But nationalism as a modern movement, you can trace to around the 19th century. But the idea is, you know, a nation needs to be a coherent people. And then you can grow into a larger sort of orientation.
02:47:19.340 But, you know, if you're not a coherent people, and even within Canada, are Ontarians a coherent people?
02:47:27.000 The Quebecois, I believe, are, but are Albertans.
02:47:31.620 What does Alberta standing alone on the world stage look like?
02:47:35.900 So anyway, these are the questions that we're asking about, okay, who are these people?
02:47:40.960 What is a Canadian?
02:47:42.540 And can you create a new ethnicity in the 21st century?
02:47:48.040 What does that look like?
02:47:49.340 It is possible to do. You can have nations on a smaller scale. We have nations all throughout Canada in the forms of Aboriginal tribal bands, your American Indians. They are nations unto themselves legally up here. And they would have a self-awareness of themselves that is profoundly nationalistic.
02:48:13.740 We give other examples and sources in the film looking at Oriana and looking at these emergent peoples all throughout Africa and elsewhere.
02:48:25.080 So it's not a question of size.
02:48:27.760 It's actually more of a question of will.
02:48:31.120 And so if you wanted, it's less about uniting the entirety of Canada, which might be a fool's errand, and more about you understand that there's something to being a Canadian.
02:48:43.000 Okay, can you and a group of communities or families actually start something of an ethnogenesis in the 21st century in Canada?
02:48:52.920 And that really became the through line of the entire piece.
02:48:58.280 And it's a pretty daring case to be made, and I hope we do it well.
02:49:02.800 But I gave you a lot of stuff just there.
02:49:06.640 Yeah, there are a couple things there.
02:49:08.280 So, you mentioned earlier the different kind of power blocks within Canada. And as far as I understand, or as far as I've had it explained to me, what these state level independence movements are basically a conflict between the Laurentian elite and the kind of like local power block,
02:49:36.740 which sort of draws its power from resource extraction, right?
02:49:41.680 Oil, gas, things like that.
02:49:45.160 And so essentially, as far as I understand it, those two groups are in conflict.
02:49:50.720 That conflict is waged in terms of environmental policy on one hand and actually making money
02:49:57.520 on the other.
02:49:59.180 And so is that the kind of fault line?
02:50:03.520 Is there a broader culture issue?
02:50:05.400 how how would you rate that analysis and then also why would should we say canada proper
02:50:15.040 right the the kind of current legitimate structure why would they let that happen
02:50:20.260 yeah well to answer your question um there's a four main plow power blocks i would say
02:50:27.000 um elite power blocks so the laurentians would be the biggest ones and they're situated
02:50:31.700 in Ontario. And so Ontario is where the nation's capital is, but it's also the financial center
02:50:39.820 of Canada. And I would place that in Toronto. So I'd say the biggest city in Canada is also
02:50:48.000 in Ontario. That would be Toronto. Of course, there's Vancouver. Of course, there's Calgary.
02:50:52.580 There's some other big cities. Montreal, of course. Montreal is an amazing city. But
02:50:56.640 uh toronto represents the the financial and business center of the nation as far as i see it
02:51:02.060 and then you also have the nation's capital so the elite the government elite and the business elite
02:51:08.780 are clustered pretty closely together and that would constitute you know the laurentian center
02:51:14.680 power then you have the western block and that's that's a lot of alberta and that's a lot of these
02:51:21.060 oil companies and they would have gotten like the Laurentian League can trace their power back to
02:51:26.880 the founding of Canada they're one of the oldest ones I'd say the western elites they're more uh
02:51:33.200 not new oil base but their their power comes from oil and the uh Alberta oil sands and you know
02:51:43.980 they've you've got the government getting in their way of extracting the oil legally and through
02:51:52.380 policy and whatnot and that without getting too much into the minutia of canadian politics this
02:51:58.120 is why i say alberta has a point to why the center of power in the country is getting in their way
02:52:04.220 then you have the quebec elite and they get a lot of their honestly they get a lot of their money
02:52:09.600 from government subsidies. In Canada, we have what are known as have and have not provinces,
02:52:14.800 and we make equalization payments. So provinces that have a lot of money just give money to other
02:52:22.340 provinces. And the number one recipient of this has been Quebec for like decades. And the number
02:52:29.900 one payer of this has been Alberta, Alberta and Ontario, but mostly Alberta, I think. So Alberta
02:52:35.760 at some point saying why are we giving billions of dollars to quebec and all quebec does is
02:52:40.960 complain about us and contribute fucking nothing i'm sorry i love quebec but you don't fucking do
02:52:46.560 anything they've got like telecom companies and they have this entrenched elite thing but other
02:52:52.700 than that they're not it's like they make cirque de soleil and that's it and i don't know if anyone's
02:52:57.720 going to cirque de soleil like they did 10 years ago i think they flooded the market so then you
02:53:04.420 those are the main ones. And then you have these elite families. They kind of fall in the orbit
02:53:10.880 of these centers of power. But you have the Molson family and all these dynastic families. Again,
02:53:16.800 they can trace their lineage back many, many generations. But so many of them fall into the
02:53:23.020 orbit of, if not Canadian power, then American power as well. Their business interests align
02:53:28.200 with america so that's more or less the the outline here now your second question was why
02:53:34.440 would they allow this to happen so just to clarify allow what to happen allow some sort of separation
02:53:44.920 or separatist movement right why would they allow their natural resources to leave oh they never
02:53:50.960 would and that's why the way to view the separation movement is more of a shakedown and i say that
02:53:59.260 with all due respect and love and adoration because i love shakedowns but quebec has tried
02:54:06.360 to leave in my life twice so the way you exit the country is you have a referendum and it gets put
02:54:16.480 up to a vote so every province needs to vote on whether or not you can leave so every province
02:54:24.020 can just vote no which is what they did to quebec which is why quebec is still part of canada
02:54:29.720 so practically they they're not going to leave they're just not right secondly i don't think
02:54:37.400 they really want to leave i don't think alberta that stands apart from the rest of canada i don't
02:54:43.560 think that puts them really in an advantageous position i actually don't think they've thought
02:54:46.740 about that deeply it's very popular it's it's it's more popular than it's ever been and i understand
02:54:52.500 why i don't think they're going to separate i don't think the will is there in alberta and i
02:54:58.680 don't think the will is there outside of alberta but what i think it's just them causing a problem
02:55:04.240 taking their grievance ottawa saying fuck you to parliament and they should but i i just not long
02:55:12.840 after that bc british columbia was they have their own separatist movement why just to become part
02:55:21.640 of china so there's a lot of chatter about this but i i don't detect that they're really serious
02:55:28.260 about it although i do think it's valid but the same reason i don't think trump is serious about
02:55:35.240 annexing canada if you really think about it it wouldn't serve his interest i don't think it would
02:55:39.920 serve alberta's interests i just think they want the government to stop fucking with them and they
02:55:44.800 should all right fair enough that makes sense so when we're talking about the the different
02:55:55.220 sort of nations within canada right you mentioned the the to use your term uh the the canadian
02:56:07.000 aboriginals uh or as i call them uh filthy red savages but because i don't know if ours are red
02:56:15.400 you know what i mean dimes you were naive enough to assume that that this is uh based in any sort
02:56:23.700 of observation or firsthand experience this is pure naked bigotry i don't know but some are i
02:56:30.760 get where the red comes from but i don't know if we got that up here i think it's colder so
02:56:35.400 the uh we just we just we just we just we showed up in chinese people were here and we had to think
02:56:45.920 of a different name to call them anyway and for some reason you're like you know what we need
02:56:50.040 even more chinese food you know it's two great things that go great together chinese and more
02:56:57.420 chinese yeah you sound like a sort of like a japanese sergeant in like 1934 like i could do
02:57:06.500 with some more chinese people uh just a japanese guy in america i could do with a few more chinese
02:57:13.400 like who who is this unrelated then you see the fucking kai around the bottom
02:57:20.260 pearl harbor 1940s i don't know when that shit happened if it did uh but you mentioned that
02:57:30.580 right you mentioned the kind of small indigenous communities but couldn't a skeptic look at that
02:57:39.340 and say well that that life seems awful right like just you know sitting on your reservation
02:57:45.040 drinking yourself to death do you give them casinos up there is that our innovation
02:57:49.380 they do but i don't think it's at the scale of america like i know there's uh
02:57:55.220 like over here in ontario we've got like mohawk territory so there's like mohawk casinos and
02:57:59.940 stuff and they're reservation i mean honestly you drive through a reservation up here and it's all
02:58:05.660 gas stations and weed dispensaries because they treat gas and weed as kind of the same thing so
02:58:13.720 i guess that makes sense do indians own indian gas stations yeah like that's the whole idea is
02:58:21.460 that since they're in their tribal bands or nations under themselves they can chart they
02:58:26.340 can just have different taxes or have no taxes they're different laws there so i don't know
02:58:31.000 exactly how you fell for a classic blunder assuming i meant when i used that word twice
02:58:36.960 in the same sentence i meant it in the same context i'm asking have the have the dot types
02:58:42.220 uh infiltrated into federal ah it's it's a i get it now you're trying to he's trying to get
02:58:49.320 him a good side so i can blame about indians here um i don't know i don't know i don't know
02:58:57.540 like i don't know here's what's interesting is that i speak to canadian nationalists all the
02:59:02.900 time i thought you know i was talking about this was geo pinochetty who i'm sure you're aware of
02:59:06.980 And he was like, there's got to be some relationship that can be brokered between nationalists of our side and over there.
02:59:15.500 They must have their own nationalists.
02:59:18.560 I'm like, yeah, maybe, but you don't understand how much they hate white people.
02:59:23.740 Like, they really, there's no way around that.
02:59:27.000 And I don't know how that affects their view of mass Indian migration.
02:59:33.460 I just don't know because they don't want to talk to us.
02:59:35.940 and i have a feeling they would dislike us both equally but i don't know i don't think
02:59:41.740 the the new indians even want to fuck with the old indians because like these reserves suck man
02:59:47.940 like no one's no like indians want to be in urban centers and suburbs they don't want to go into like
02:59:53.140 the rural areas where you know they're living like rednecks basically and i say that with affection
02:59:59.520 right but like that that's completely antithetical to the indian worldview where they're like
03:00:05.420 going hiking insane like they're going hiking up a mountain in sandals they don't know what
03:00:10.100 they're doing they don't know where they are at any given moment so yeah i don't think they'll
03:00:16.700 encroach over there i think that was the answer to your question it was an answer to something
03:00:21.500 look that i'm thinking i might title this the worst documentary review ever because
03:00:29.040 well no but you know it's it actually it's it actually is all related because it's you might
03:00:38.900 might not think so guys watch watch it and tell me how related it is to all this because we're
03:00:44.680 talking about the power blocks i don't here's the the documentary was also created for a mainstream
03:00:50.840 audience so there are some people who've been initiated into our ideas and our talking points
03:00:57.060 for some this might seem old hat but it's not for you and i the best reviews i've heard from people
03:01:03.320 liked it and said this is something i can show my aunt my mom my work friends or something you know
03:01:09.480 if you've listened to blood satellite we can be a bit you know outside the bounds on certain things
03:01:16.100 but a little bit untoward there's none of that in here this was made to introduce if not
03:01:22.900 mainstream aligned people then people who are maybe on the periphery of that and looking for
03:01:27.720 something else it's trying to introduce some pretty radical ideas maybe some ideas that
03:01:34.480 these people haven't heard before packaged in a certain way that they haven't seen before
03:01:38.100 and that's what this one the first documentary was great that one might even be easier to show
03:01:45.220 people. And this one was more fashion for my way of thinking. So it lives or dies based on that.
03:01:51.780 Some people might think it's too weird. I'll own that. But we take it in some pretty weird
03:01:58.460 directions. And it's got a pretty large ambition for this thing of what it wants to get across to
03:02:05.820 someone, just a first time viewer who hasn't really heard any of these ideas before. So that
03:02:11.380 that was the ambition of this project but believe me everything that we're talking about serves that
03:02:16.720 interest we can complain about indians more if you want too because i don't mind that
03:02:24.240 i'll do that all day i got a video taken down for talking about them so i gotta be nice
03:02:30.160 yeah i can do it i can do it in a nice way
03:02:34.140 but it's the thing on that we don't there's certain groups that a lot of people blame for
03:02:41.200 this or that i'm not going to mention on the show but none that comes up in the
03:02:44.040 the film at all uh you know baby steps yeah well and so i'm curious because
03:02:50.900 in my mind the last event in canadian politics was justin trudeau uh dating katie perry
03:03:00.520 And then before that, it was the trucker protest.
03:03:04.580 And then before that, the War of 1812.
03:03:07.240 And so in my mind, it seemed as if during the coup, there was this sort of explosion
03:03:16.760 of discontent.
03:03:18.500 And I don't see that anymore.
03:03:21.800 Now, as I've said earlier, don't have my ear to the ground when it comes to Canadian
03:03:26.520 politics, but is the public primed for this sort of product? Are they in a moment of profound
03:03:33.320 discontent? What is the feeling on the ground? That's a very interesting question. It's a big
03:03:39.840 question. I'm going to try and answer it as acutely as I can. The trucker protest was so
03:03:45.660 interesting because a lot of people didn't expect that from Canada. There's a few realities that
03:03:52.940 facilitated that one is that there is a pretty strong you know people have this idea of Canada
03:03:59.380 like I described it as sort of urban liberals and whatnot but there's a like there's only really a
03:04:06.100 few cities that matter in Canada and it's a lot of towns a lot of villages a lot of rural areas
03:04:15.240 and a lot of people who are very outdoorsy so you have a certain I don't want to call it a frontier
03:04:21.780 character up here, but maybe I will. Maybe I'll just fucking say that. But there's a lot of people
03:04:27.520 who are a bit more conservatively aligned. And the trucker protest coalesced a lot of different
03:04:35.400 groups. It was vaccine skeptics, plus conspiracy guys, plus white nationalists, plus free speech
03:04:47.020 people like there's a lot of right-wing groups that probably wouldn't get along otherwise that
03:04:54.420 really crashed together and did this one miraculous thing that was so cool to see
03:05:00.500 and it was so big and um then there's still some people that have been arrested that are dealing
03:05:07.140 with the consequences of that but one of the things that facilitated that was that the canadian
03:05:12.520 security apparatus and the um canadian military they did not have the ability to project force
03:05:20.680 inward and i think that was what scared them that if they wanted to send in the cops or the military
03:05:26.780 to stop this they fucking couldn't they just didn't have the manpower they didn't have the
03:05:31.020 will they didn't have the strength they didn't have the plan to do that like they would in america
03:05:35.200 can direct so much power at its own citizens at any given moment but they couldn't really do that
03:05:42.400 cannon. I think that showed a great weakness in their ability to marshal their forces
03:05:47.920 interiorly. But, you know, so what does that represent? So I would say that of those groups
03:05:58.620 I mentioned, they don't align on most things when it comes to even mass migration. At that time,
03:06:05.520 there might have been a lot of anti-vaccine people, like the Alex Jones types, right? Like
03:06:10.900 alex jones even though they tried to turn infowars trans for some reason alex jones for being a far
03:06:18.160 right schizo he's always been pretty lgbt friendly i'm 99 sure he had a blair white's feet in his
03:06:26.720 mouth and that you know he's he's he's not a racist guy either right so you had like those
03:06:33.500 people who wouldn't even agree on racial stuff and maybe they've come around recently but uh you
03:06:39.420 know if you were trying to build a movement with them outside of that flashpoint you probably
03:06:44.420 couldn't so we're talking about what is the movement on the ground i i'm right now i am
03:06:53.120 more excited than i've ever been and more hopeful from seeing groups like the dominion society
03:07:01.920 up here in canada uh and second sons up here in canada both these groups i uh you know i i
03:07:08.960 speak to the the leadership of them quite often the domain society ran by daniel tyree which is
03:07:15.540 a political organization second sons is more of a an active club network but very nationalist
03:07:22.420 minded guys the growth of these groups has been phenomenal i'd say the growth is more impressive
03:07:30.820 than anything i've seen outside of america and maybe even compared to america just from from
03:07:35.980 the numbers I'm seeing and the quality of the people who are involved in the projects that
03:07:41.020 they're starting to pull off. So based on the feedback to that, I think the movement on the
03:07:47.840 ground and sort of the tone of everything is very, very good, at least where I am in Ontario. I can't
03:07:53.520 speak to what it's like across the country, but the growth of these groups, these nationalist
03:07:58.280 minded groups these re-migration groups has been phenomenal and the the amount of you know content
03:08:06.740 people don't like to talk about that but i would say the intellectual movement from some other
03:08:12.640 people other content creators that are trying to dig through canadian history and make it more
03:08:17.900 relevant to canadians so they're not just always drawn towards international politics and
03:08:24.660 international concerns like they're they're trying to get a stronger awareness of themselves
03:08:28.740 of their history and make it more relevant to canadians today and so much of canada's history
03:08:34.740 is pretty nationalistic and you know militaristic in tone so i'm very hopeful from what i'm seeing
03:08:42.280 from the youth people younger than myself i'm not that old so i i think the stage is set right now
03:08:50.120 for some very very interesting things and i think for a lot of people in the conservative movement
03:08:59.220 they're kind they're gravitating away from the center of that because they're looking at pier
03:09:03.480 poliev what time are we at am i going to okay we have some time so i'll explain what happened
03:09:10.160 with trudeau was really interesting because you remember justin trudeau don't you
03:09:15.900 yes i'm familiar with yeah so he was really funny because he's been stupid for as long as he's been
03:09:28.180 prime minister but at some point near the end of his tenure there was a green light that was placed
03:09:36.080 over his head that made it okay to bully him bully him in a way that i've never seen done to
03:09:42.520 world leader by his own people even even with like george w bush but that's where you started
03:09:47.960 seeing fuck trudeau bumper stickers everywhere you saw like ladies making fun of trudeau for
03:09:54.840 being stupid and whatnot and i was hopeful for a minute because he got a divorce while he was
03:10:01.220 prime minister and he started getting a beard but a very specific type of divorced guy beard and i
03:10:07.920 said we've i don't even think america has had a proper divorced president and we've certainly
03:10:15.140 never had a divorced prime minister are we ready for such a thing and i'm like this guy he's got
03:10:20.240 a divorced brain right now he's capable of anything it's like when trump got shot in the
03:10:25.360 fucking head you don't know what he's gonna do next right same thing like a man going through
03:10:29.920 divorce might as well be shot in the side of the head but um everyone was just making making fun
03:10:35.860 of this guy and um because there was such a green light placed over bullying him it's you know i
03:10:45.700 think people got like the wrong idea about how canadians feel about the liberal party and so
03:10:53.960 because everyone was making fun trudeau this guy named pure polyev who was a leader of the
03:10:59.240 conservative party he was a shoo-in at the election trudeau was on his way out he he announced
03:11:06.760 everyone he didn't even want to be prime minister anymore so this guy pier polia who's a fucking
03:11:11.400 dork he doesn't have a single original idea in his head you know he he's he's a shoo-in he's gonna
03:11:17.960 just slide right in there and then here comes this guy named mark carney and just decimates him
03:11:23.840 Because it turns out no one liked the Conservative Party as much as they hated Trudeau.
03:11:31.680 And just because they hated Trudeau didn't mean they disliked the Liberal Party at all.
03:11:37.240 And so that's what happened at that election.
03:11:40.080 And even prior to the election, we were saying,
03:11:42.820 Pierre Polyev is going to lose.
03:11:44.120 The Conservatives are going to lose.
03:11:45.860 And I was hopeful because I said, you know, what they can do now is they can reassess.
03:11:50.880 get Pierre Polyev out of there. Find a new guy. Who are you going to get? I don't know.
03:11:55.560 Go crazy. Find a dark horse candidate like Trump. Find a psychopath. I don't know.
03:12:01.900 Find just anyone but Kevin O'Leary. But I wasn't expecting them to do what they did,
03:12:09.620 which was just keep Pierre Polyev in power and change nothing. So right now, there's a lot of
03:12:16.660 people in the conservative party that are looking for not an out but saying like what the fuck are
03:12:23.300 we doing mark carney the liberal prime minister we're gonna have 25 years of him you can be prime
03:12:29.800 minister for as long as you want by the way he could be he could be prime minister for a hundred
03:12:33.780 thousand years if he wants to if he just keeps getting re-elected so there's people within the
03:12:39.840 conservative movement they're looking for some of that energy that they felt they remember what's
03:12:46.480 like to hate a liberal leader they remember what it was like for the trucker protest there's
03:12:53.000 something here and these conservatives the the prison they're in is so fucking boring
03:13:00.420 and offers them nothing all it offers is scolding so i'm looking at them and saying there's an
03:13:08.340 alternative and it's it's this other thing outside of the politics this this this emergence
03:13:15.620 nationalistic thing that i was just describing
03:13:18.300 so dimes we are fast approaching time i'll make sure to link to this documentary
03:13:25.240 uh everyone should check it out it got burden wife seal of approval so oh did that matters to
03:13:31.680 you yeah yeah she liked it uh and so you know for what the brains upon the operation oh 100
03:13:38.840 it's uh uh yeah i've you know we kind of floated the round idea you know like oh it'd be you know
03:13:47.000 fun maybe you and i do a show talking to her and she goes yeah no why would i listen to you steal
03:13:52.100 my ideas like wow okay fine uh in all seriousness she enjoyed it so if that kind of you know uh
03:13:59.440 lofty praise moves you i'll be sure to link it uh dimes where else can people find you
03:14:05.200 Oh, you can go over to bloodsatellite.ca to find all of our content from the show on there and clips and full episodes and everything. I'm on Substack at vanguardistjournal.substack.com. Jay was so gracious as to include a link to that on our last appearance. But those are the main things. I'm also on X at Legally Ironic.
03:14:35.200 Salads and scrambled eggs
03:14:37.520 And maybe I seem a bit confused
03:14:42.100 Yeah, maybe, but I got you, Peg