Blood Satellite - I am Become You, the Literally of Me [＂Hilux in the garage door＂]

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.760 blood satellite you know what though i have so many people way more than i thought i would

00:00:23.900 messaging me based on that para normies appearance that i did talk about how much they love andrew

00:00:30.540 wk yeah yeah yeah that hooked me actually because i was never big on his music but i had not heard

00:00:35.820 anything about this whole conspiracy shit like i get in all these dms and like like honestly like

00:00:42.200 i heard about him a long time ago never liked him but god is partying is full of bangers i'm like

00:00:48.700 Yes. Yes, it is.

00:00:52.680 Slithering. Yes.

00:00:55.520 I hope people like that appearance because I went in and I'm giving you old news because this was like a couple of weeks ago.

00:01:02.680 But that's something I was really passionate about.

00:01:05.480 And I worried that it wasn't as much of a conspiracy theory as a lot of people were hoping for.

00:01:13.460 Here's the thing, though. The laughing man is trying to act a fool out here.

00:01:18.700 Back on his bullshit.

00:01:20.300 I'm like, that's the worst conspiracy theory I ever heard.

00:01:22.740 And I said, liar, fraud, sham.

00:01:27.320 I'm pointing at him.

00:01:28.860 Because he can't stop talking about it.

00:01:30.940 Everyone's talking about Andrew WK.

00:01:32.780 It just so happens everyone's talking about the dumbest conspiracy theory they ever heard.

00:01:37.140 And they can't stop talking about it.

00:01:38.840 Yep.

00:01:39.720 They can't stop listening to everybody's sins.

00:01:42.920 They can't stop listening to my tower.

00:01:45.440 I made it.

00:01:47.120 Babylon.

00:01:48.700 getting into the deep stuff getting into mother of mankind getting his weird unreleased stuff

00:01:52.860 getting into i'm a vagabond getting to i want your face did you know the conspiracy theory

00:01:58.160 that i heard is that andrew wk is actually tom york oh to believe me you're gonna have to go

00:02:05.940 and listen to every album of from radiohead because actually it's it's related just trust

00:02:11.380 me bro go listen to radiohead now everyone i've been trading my whole life for this moment

00:02:16.400 these two musicians that i i know all the b-sides and deep cuts

00:02:22.460 i will admit it's genuinely annoying how much i know about radiohead yeah i'll admit that

00:02:29.280 the moment it comes up in a conversation you're getting three links from me

00:02:40.380 you're getting like oh yeah i listened to the bends uh high and dry it came up on spotify i'm

00:02:45.760 Like, actually, the B-sides from the Benz era are way better.

00:02:48.520 Here's the Trickster.

00:02:49.960 Here's Louis.

00:02:50.880 Do people not know Louis?

00:02:52.860 I like that one.

00:02:54.300 It's kind of...

00:02:55.080 This is the...

00:02:55.960 Like, you just get a contact high from knowing me.

00:02:58.620 Like, you've just heard all this.

00:03:00.240 Because that shit's hard to find.

00:03:01.780 i feel sad for everyone else so we're doing music corner guys

00:03:31.300 music corner but the one thing i wanted to talk about andrew wk um because a friend of ours

00:03:38.020 wagner's wagner's ghost sidebar isn't it funny how the ukrainian thing they just call it the

00:03:47.260 wagner division yes it is funny no one's called it the wagner division it's wagner

00:03:53.180 fucking americans even people who are into wagner like yeah these wagner guys

00:03:58.020 don't give them the satisfaction of pronouncing it correctly

00:04:02.200 yeah but um he was talking about uh his theory about how it's it's not this big esoteric thing

00:04:10.600 i'm like okay let's just sidebar on the whole andrew wk thing when i went on paranormies

00:04:15.460 there's a lot that's really interesting and that's in there but i think i know what the

00:04:20.520 real story is with andrew wk um and i was more playing into the lore i went into it saying

00:04:26.460 let's assume all of this lore is real let's just let's take at face value and have some fun with

00:04:32.140 it because there's a lot there but i said really i i know what it is and i can it the what it really

00:04:38.340 is it's less fantastic but it makes me respect him more as an artist and as a creative guy so

00:04:46.900 i mentioned it i don't want to go too much into this but i mentioned it briefly

00:04:51.800 not long ago there was supposedly a leak a leak of his private journals that are dating back to

00:04:58.400 the early 2000s and these journals purport to be him coming up with the andrew wk character

00:05:04.300 he talks about steve mike this mythical steve mike as if he's a real guy um and so it's it's

00:05:11.660 kind of like it's implying that this entire sequence his entire career up until this point

00:05:17.040 was planned point by point planned in phases even like that weird middle section where he

00:05:23.580 disappeared for a while and went to japan and got dropped by his record label and like it hurt his

00:05:29.880 career like he's nowhere near as big as he used to be but these journals like it's handwritten

00:05:35.640 and there's drawings and everything um where that fits into the lore is you know self-explanatory

00:05:43.060 but my theory is it was leaked by him that was all written pretty recently and it's more of an

00:05:51.580 insight into how his mind works because there's this one part and i've read through all these

00:05:56.300 pages pages and pages of scans of these this journal that was supposedly leaked to from his

00:06:02.660 former roommate who had them to some fan and then that fan uploaded it this whole convoluted story

00:06:08.620 but there's these parts of it where like he's talking to himself he's hyping himself up he's

00:06:14.840 like by this point everyone should be confused at what you're doing they should think it's stupid

00:06:19.460 they should think you're stupid they should think it's a waste of time and like he's and

00:06:24.500 and like by the time you're gone to japan everyone's gonna think you've lost your mind

00:06:29.220 and your career is gonna suck for a long time and everyone's gonna forget about you

00:06:32.760 and that takes on a different framing if you realize that's him in the present talking to

00:06:39.400 his past self that's like a journal of him retrospectively looking at his career and

00:06:45.100 looking at himself like everyone thinks this is stupid i get it everyone thinks and no one knows

00:06:50.660 what i'm doing and it's not as and maybe it's not as big as what he thought it would be

00:06:55.060 but to me once you realize that this entire thing is just him this entire mythology the lore the

00:07:05.920 side characters all of the hacks all the disappearances it's all from his mind and he's

00:07:12.080 just uh this Andy Kaufman type character because it all comes back to him when he someone there's

00:07:20.160 interviews with like people from his career like his former guitarist and former friends and they

00:07:26.220 would say stuff like yeah he's just a weird fucking guy like i wouldn't be surprised if he's doing all

00:07:30.080 this um and one of his former friends was like yeah like i remember him in high school i mean we

00:07:35.560 were in drama class and everyone said what they wanted to do he got up and was really kind of odd

00:07:40.120 and he just said he wanted to make his own unreality and he's got this whole philosophy

00:07:45.780 like he wants to create like an art project where you can't tell fact from fiction you can't tell

00:07:50.520 past from future you can't tell who what's real and what's not it's like this sort it's like an

00:07:55.320 anti-creation and once i understood that that even though this whole thing is a work

00:08:01.620 that made me respect him as a creative mind a lot more because this is the only thing like that that

00:08:08.440 i've seen i've never seen something like this that goes on for this long and he never turns it off

00:08:15.760 it's always just expanding and i mentioned it in the um in the interview and paranormia is where

00:08:21.880 i'm like it's like a fractal the closer you look at it the more complicated it gets but that's by

00:08:26.400 design it's like a new type of multimedia like art experiment and you're you're like you're

00:08:34.840 looking at it's confusing but you kind of like it it's really it's still exciting and that knowing

00:08:39.640 that it's fake doesn't make it worse that makes the project a lot more impressive to me and it

00:08:45.240 gives me insight into how he thinks because maybe his career didn't go the way he wanted to like he

00:08:49.640 was dropped by island death jam that wasn't part of the plan i bet he would be love to be signed

00:08:55.580 to island right now and he would still love to be still on like high up on spotify on at the time

00:09:02.020 would have been an mtv he would have loved to be that instead of you know tour he's still good

00:09:07.460 enough but everything's a little bit harder right now you know he used to be married and then he got

00:09:12.320 divorce he's remarried now but i'm like was that divorce part of the plan no i think he was just

00:09:16.960 he just kind of got into a shitty marriage and doesn't like to talk about it you know he said

00:09:21.200 he's still a guy and i don't know like that i wanted to give that other dimension to it that

00:09:27.600 we're having fun being in the lore but to me like the story of this guy is a lot more interesting

00:09:34.140 once you realize it is all fake but that makes it cooler to me anyway no it's neat it's kind of

00:09:39.300 easier to swallow but the fact that you can wrap your head around it like i can grasp the idea of

00:09:45.440 somebody who's in that space and you know it's their life's work but it is just a work um that

00:09:51.720 that's that's actually more of a story i i enjoy that more the other one honestly to the extent

00:09:59.020 that it's true or was true would have frightened me and it you know like johnny was talking about

00:10:04.200 the relationship to all these other cia characters who became the entire 70s rock and roll scene and

00:10:09.160 like oh man this is the same depressing black pill shit again there's truth to it like his dad

00:10:15.280 is a professor and his dad did start a record label like there's a lot of truth in that

00:10:20.040 that kind of explodes off into other directions and like he did go to japan and release a bunch

00:10:25.380 of weird like gundam songs i know i just mean the extreme shit like he's actually three people but

00:10:30.400 actually an android and actually it's like the cia from the future built him to integrate satanism

00:10:36.320 into the public school system and like okay like uh i do think he is like a satanist guy like he

00:10:42.180 is a philema oh yeah for sure but i mean he is also just a fucking guy and his music isn't that

00:10:47.420 popular so it's not that popular and he's not he's he's he's interesting but he's not a genius

00:10:51.720 i don't think but he is a multi-instrumentalist there's some kind of polyglot thing going on

00:10:57.800 there but but i'm like again that's as an artist i'm like yeah i want to listen if you listen to

00:11:03.780 his music with that in mind it's cooler than like an evil clone guy because i'm like i don't want

00:11:10.760 to listen i don't feel like listening to evil clone music yeah i want to listen to music from

00:11:15.780 a guy that made that that is a human yeah i don't want to listen to like some kind of monster

00:11:22.220 not not mk ultra clones yeah yeah i don't we we have enough that according to what i've read

00:11:29.660 every musician in the 60s and 70s was a fed except frank i actually believe that but that's

00:11:36.920 except for no you got slapped on that and frank's apple was probably one of the worst of them

00:11:41.200 he just happened to be cool i know happened to be he happened to have a nice mustache so i i like

00:11:46.860 cool feds some there's something i almost said sometimes there's good feds but that's not true

00:11:52.200 they're all bad this might be a conspiracy episode oh i've just been in a conspiracy

00:11:59.300 mood i was actually let's start with i don't know if you've heard about this i don't know how much

00:12:04.020 i want to spend on this but it's just interesting and it gives you a bit of insight into how canada

00:12:09.640 operates have you heard about how meta and facebook are not allowing canadian new news

00:12:16.900 not just canadian news news for canadians that's yeah i mean it's not like meta is not allowing it

00:12:25.100 It's not, it's not really a, well, that's, that's, that's the interesting thing.

00:12:29.320 So what did happen?

00:12:29.980 And look, I hate Meta as much as the next guy, but like, yeah, you can, you can explain it.

00:12:34.080 It's Bill C-18.

00:12:37.320 Meta has been threatening to pull news content since the government passed Bill C-18,

00:12:42.020 which requires tech companies to pay news organizations for links and posts to their content.

00:12:48.080 In a statement, the newly appointed Heritage Minister, Pascal Saint-Ange,

00:12:51.700 says the government is standing up to Facebook for the right reasons.

00:12:57.060 Writing, this is irresponsible.

00:12:59.620 They would rather block their users from accessing good quality and local news

00:13:04.120 instead of paying their fair share to news organizations.

00:13:08.840 And I'm just looking at an article here on the CBC headline,

00:13:13.080 Canadians will no longer have access to news content on Facebook and Instagram, Meta says.

00:13:18.920 subtitle bill c18 the online news act received royal assent after passing the house and senate

00:13:25.800 so for people outside of canada you still need the royal family to weigh in on this shit

00:13:30.700 so if a law if something like a bill needs to get passed it's got to get faxed over to buckingham

00:13:37.180 palace um it's might be a technicality but it's still got to do it so it received the nod from

00:13:45.400 who's in there now prince philip king philip king king charles okay who is in charge it's

00:13:52.900 i know it's charles but we're i like phil better there's one white guy still in charge of britain

00:13:59.400 as far as i know i think king chuck king king chuck

00:14:03.180 the social media giant has confirmed that will end access to news on its social media sites for

00:14:10.920 all canadian users before bill's cat and the online news act comes into force so my understanding of

00:14:17.360 this is and once i heard this it sounded completely in line with something the canadian government

00:14:23.660 would do because over my career i've had various dealings with um the provincial government in

00:14:32.760 ontario but kind of the federal government broadly in getting funding for the arts you know there's

00:14:38.200 a lot of grants and bursaries out there i've spoken to um some directors and the governments

00:14:43.900 and like the new media foundation and other places like that this was back in my early 20s

00:14:48.840 but i know the consensus throughout the entire canadian government is canadian creators should

00:14:55.600 get paid for their work and on one hand that has given us in my opinion things like good things

00:15:02.840 like much music and you know there's this mandate we have in canada that every radio uh playing

00:15:08.700 every music station has to play something like 20 canadian artists um and i fucking gay you think

00:15:16.800 it's gay i think it's straight really i like i don't mind it i i got a soft spot for like i this

00:15:25.340 is where my nationalist leanings come in where i'm like i if if there is money to be spent you know

00:15:31.180 on on some sort of trade protectionism i don't mind it spent on cultural things i only differ on

00:15:37.980 where it's going this will be a theme i think of the entire episode we'll get to near the end

00:15:42.680 i don't mind the money going to support certain cultural things what i don't like is when it's

00:15:49.060 just thrown at aboriginal causes that are then turned against me but if it's like oh i'm what

00:15:55.380 we're gonna give you 10 grand to film a music video i anyway that's my i know that's not a

00:16:00.220 popular opinion for some people i know you probably disagree with that i don't mind that

00:16:03.640 but the consensus for most of the government bureaucrats is that canadians should get paid

00:16:10.420 for their work and now it's journalists so this entire bill is that we're going to bat for

00:16:16.780 journalists any news story that's posted on facebook like they're kind of using facebook's

00:16:23.420 own logic against it and i see where they're coming from because they're saying you're

00:16:26.740 technically a publisher say you're making money off our content in a way we should get a cut

00:16:32.280 and this had gone over fairly well in australia not long ago australia called meta's bluff

00:16:39.380 facebook just reaching an agreement with australia's government is going to restore

00:16:44.060 news pages in the country this is days after restricting them the social network said the

00:16:48.620 government agreed to a number of changes that address concerns about facebook's relationship

00:16:52.920 with publishers. Specifically, the government will continue, or rather, will take into account

00:16:57.760 commercial deals that digital platforms may have already made with news media businesses before

00:17:02.640 deciding if the law applies, and Facebook retains control of which news sites appear on its platform

00:17:08.240 so it can opt out of forced arbitration by removing a site. Now, the changes were introduced

00:17:12.700 into a bill that is expected to be voted into law soon, but it seems in this case, guys, that

00:17:19.060 Facebook is the winner.

00:17:22.920 basically canada was trying to copy what australia did and meta said fuck you canada

00:17:31.560 and i don't think they were expecting that and all the news i was reading leading up to this

00:17:36.540 which is like we're like no they're they're bluffing menace bluffing there's no way they

00:17:40.400 would block all news to canada and i then and they're doing it so what what are your feelings

00:17:47.220 on that first of all i know you've probably got some passionate leanings i mean i hate all

00:17:53.040 regulation i don't think the government's capable i'm just gonna say i hate all i hate all i don't

00:17:58.780 think it's possible to make industry regulation that isn't bad i think the definition of industry

00:18:04.780 regulation is bad and everybody can you know fucking shoot me if they want but that's that's

00:18:08.940 me so but i mean this in particular and my argument is always going to be just from a market

00:18:17.580 perspective like what did you think was going to happen if you have people in your country like

00:18:22.820 your own citizens didn't ask for this most of us read american news as well as canadian news

00:18:28.100 and it's free it's always been fucking free or at least since the internet it's always been free

00:18:32.740 now you're saying that the service providers have to pay for it so what's going to happen is one of

00:18:37.800 two things as a citizen i don't i fucking hate zuckerberg i hate meta but as a citizen i know

00:18:42.800 what's going to happen either zuck is going to pay them and then he's going to charge me for it

00:18:47.440 or he's just not going to provide it anymore so as always whatever the government has done to try

00:18:53.660 to stick it to the industry is just fallen right on the heads of the citizens every fucking time

00:18:59.560 this is what happens so what it means now is we can't get the fucking news so or the alternative

00:19:05.020 would have been we can get like in australia you can get the news but now you have to pay for it

00:19:09.340 or you have to pay for it through increased ads or you have to pay through decreased quality or

00:19:13.220 something that you money can't just be printed out of thin air as much as like value real money

00:19:18.440 can't be printed out of thin air people have to be paid for the work that they do so at the end

00:19:22.100 of the day if it's cut if it looks like it's free it's coming out of somewhere you just aren't

00:19:26.300 noticed or noticing where it's coming from so yeah anyways hey here's a quote from the cbc article

00:19:31.840 a free and independent press is fundamental to our democracy canadian heritage minister

00:19:38.580 pablo rodriguez said in a statement very canadian name i love the idea of a the idea of a free press

00:19:47.880 and it's a free press that is free from competition and free to use resources with no strings attached

00:19:53.780 that's really free you know it's really free that's one thing i don't like about this it's

00:19:59.800 It's being wrapped up in that current narrative that, you know, the news is important to democracy.

00:20:08.720 I would respect it more if this was just a shakedown for journalists.

00:20:12.920 I would respect this a lot more if they were coming up as gangsters like, look, these journalists are our citizens and we pay our citizens.

00:20:23.060 If it's a shakedown, let it be a shakedown.

00:20:25.240 I'd rather that because that's what a government, if there's a government that should be doing anything,

00:20:29.500 think it should be doing that it should be sticking the knife in someone's like give us a

00:20:33.320 fucking cut even though i hate journalists i'd like them that they did that they do that to the

00:20:37.720 dairy farmers whatever i don't care do it for go to bat for the canadian citizens if you're going

00:20:42.680 to be there i would rather they just stop doing it to the dairy farmers rather than using the

00:20:46.460 dairy farmers as an excuse to also do it to journalists when you just stop doing it to

00:20:50.400 everybody and we'd all have more money in our pockets i mean it's hard for me to believe that

00:20:55.580 this is sustainable like it i think this has got to end at some point it's just preposterous

00:21:00.860 right or maybe not i don't know it's gonna it's gonna end with canada shutting down

00:21:05.180 like because like you said it's already this has been happening this kind of like uh top-down

00:21:10.180 resource control has already been happening in our in our uh primary industries and secondary

00:21:14.200 industries and agriculture for decades you know and and it's not like it used to be there and we

00:21:19.340 started dialing it back no it used to not be there it used to be part of the crown part of the

00:21:23.220 the commonwealth and then it's gradually been taken over by all of these like uh these corporations

00:21:28.460 over the past 50 60 years so yeah we're reaching a point now it's getting into telecom and it's

00:21:33.500 like we've this really this country is just a company town it's not even a country really when

00:21:38.660 i see something like this the story that i'm getting reading between the lines is that no one

00:21:44.740 takes canada seriously especially if canada is saying well you did it for australia why don't

00:21:51.240 because that that yeah that means that they don't like you as much as australia so that

00:21:55.380 now everyone it's a green light on fucking canada in the ass and you know what you know what's funny

00:21:59.880 is australia is smaller maybe somebody correct me on that but to my understanding australia only has

00:22:05.660 like two-thirds the population and economy of canada but for but can but and still and canada

00:22:12.220 is also way bigger geographically and has more natural resources than australia like australia

00:22:15.840 should be the little little brother but actually australia gets some fucking credibility and some

00:22:20.040 respect on the global stage australia actually is a functional military for one thing yes look

00:22:25.480 we're neo-realists on this show at international geopolitics it's prison rules it doesn't matter

00:22:32.080 why canada is being made an example of the words out that canada is a country that you can make an

00:22:38.020 example of maybe you could to australia but they weren't made an example of yeah we're the fat guy

00:22:43.540 that you might be afraid of until you hear him talk and then you just laugh that's canada yeah

00:22:48.060 you're thinking because you're in your mind thinking well he's got a lot of mass you know

00:22:52.080 you're trying to run that internal calculation like i know he's not small i'm not sure no one's

00:22:56.780 really sure if they can take a fat guy yeah until you see him reading until you see him reading anime

00:23:01.720 and polishing his his daikatana and they're like oh oh okay yeah here's how you tell if you can beat

00:23:07.600 up a real fat guy i'm talking like a real big guy you got to watch him eat now does he look like

00:23:14.900 he's he's just powering through like he's just chewing away and then scowling licking his

00:23:20.460 fingers and i'm talking in the mess hall i'm talking in the prison yard i'm talking you look

00:23:25.840 at him and if he's biting into his his mandarin orange and he's got a nice smile rosy cheek face

00:23:33.500 there that's the that's the type of fat guy you can beat up yeah you better win your fight because

00:23:38.260 I'm coming on your ass, boy.

00:23:39.560 I'm coming for that ass.

00:23:43.460 Like, how did he get that big?

00:23:45.080 Was it because he was eating lots of candy?

00:23:48.580 Or was it from eating, you know...

00:23:50.800 Bull testicles in milk.

00:23:52.180 Yeah, exactly.

00:23:54.180 Eating a lot of cigarettes.

00:23:57.200 Can you imagine getting fat by eating cigarettes?

00:24:00.500 Eating a lot of women's limbs.

00:24:04.960 Me, I don't know if I can tell

00:24:06.840 the difference between cannibal fat and candy fat i don't think you can get cannibal fat so

00:24:12.820 yeah that's so i guess what i was trying to lead this whole episode with was in canada we're just

00:24:19.500 not going to have news going forward well we're not going to have aggregators but we're still

00:24:26.520 going to have news no but it's going to be like i'm done with news we're getting rid of news in

00:24:30.180 canada that's where i'm i'm hoping oh you're saying we're actually not going to have okay

00:24:33.760 Hold on. Let me follow you here. So you're saying there's some truth to the to the federal government's plea that Canadian news producers need the money.

00:24:42.320 And now that the, you know, Meta isn't going to pay them. And again, this is Meta is just setting the precedent.

00:24:47.860 There will be other aggregators that won't pay them and then they'll just go under and we won't have any legacy media left in Canada because Sun News and the Toronto Star and the Globe and Mail aren't getting money from Meta.

00:25:00.240 I actually, deep down, I think beneath the surface, that is what this is.

00:25:04.500 I think, you know, they can cloak this in because no one really believes when they say, oh, it's for to fight misinformation and to defend democracy.

00:25:12.240 That doesn't mean anything. And most people know that doesn't mean anything.

00:25:15.060 What this is, the real problem is journalists are going out of business that I think Post Media, which is one of the biggest news corporations in Canada, is being bought out or divided up.

00:25:26.100 Like, they've been scraping by.

00:25:28.180 Everyone knows the news industry is hemorrhaging money.

00:25:31.000 Journalists make fuck all.

00:25:32.540 This is just a cash grab.

00:25:34.120 That's all it is.

00:25:35.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:25:35.620 I don't mind a cash grab as long as we're honest, maybe a bit cynical about what it is.

00:25:41.520 Well, it's a cash grab that's coming from you, though.

00:25:43.540 Like, you want to pay for that?

00:25:44.420 I don't want to pay for that.

00:25:45.500 I want to burn Postmedia to the ground.

00:25:47.520 Why would I want to pay them anything?

00:25:49.700 That is essentially, I think, where it's going.

00:25:52.280 And it's been trending that way forever.

00:25:53.680 everyone knows there's not as many journalists as there used to be the ones that like this we

00:25:58.000 were talking about this during the height of the gawker and buzzfeed era like journalists quote

00:26:03.420 unquote journalists are working for peanuts and everyone everyone's everyone first of all everyone

00:26:07.400 saying like oh journalists now aren't like what they used to be no they were always like lazy hacks

00:26:11.720 well and look to the extent that anything was ever different and something changed it didn't

00:26:16.240 just change it changed in 1995 like you don't even you weren't even alive when this shit changed

00:26:21.660 most of you guys listening like these people grew up in this new system like the toronto sun i'm

00:26:27.160 sorry toronto sun is a bunch of jews but toronto star also a bunch of jews and a bunch of like

00:26:31.580 thai trannies in working from home on their shitty laptops it's been like that for 25 years man

00:26:37.020 that's all it is they don't need 50 million dollars now they're trying to grab another

00:26:41.260 billion you know what they need they need like minimum wages for the fucking fiverr guys that

00:26:45.820 write their shitty articles that's what they need i think you i swear to god you could run the

00:26:49.480 toronto star on 900 canadian a month the fucking toronto star i fucking guarantee you could because

00:26:55.660 they don't write original articles it's all cribbed they don't take original photos it's all

00:27:00.340 from ap or just random shit like what do you do you have opinion columns by some fat old jew

00:27:05.520 who does it for free because it's propaganda like where is the money where's the money going you

00:27:11.460 don't have to pay anybody there's no shortage of people who want to be columnists for free because

00:27:15.940 it's free advertising for whatever right exactly um they people as long as there's people who want

00:27:21.900 to be influencers they will have the column page open to them and um the other thing is like you

00:27:28.880 could i worked very briefly for around like half a year when in my early 20s as a reporter for

00:27:35.820 community newspapers like a town newspaper um and once you write news stories it's very clear

00:27:42.340 anyone can do them they have to fit the exact same format in fact the editor is mainly there

00:27:47.820 just to you know edit for clarity and make sure you're not getting too verbose but they don't

00:27:53.720 even edit possible have you read this stuff like the star specifically i read not fair not a lot

00:27:58.780 but like when somebody links something i'll read the star if you read entire articles like with an

00:28:03.600 with an english eye first of all they're barely literate they're full of typos like actual words

00:28:10.160 spelled wrong double consonants they're like grammatical errors i've read star articles where

00:28:15.560 they've had like two full sentences in a paragraph repeated like they copied and pasted it and it

00:28:20.920 changed something and then didn't delete the original so no one's looking at it there nobody's

00:28:25.500 looking at it man that's been like that for a long time it's been like that for at least 10 years i

00:28:29.800 didn't think it had gotten that bad because i haven't read a newspaper that's my point everybody's

00:28:33.420 that's my point like everybody thinks of these like they're still legitimate they have like

00:28:36.760 honestly i've seen new york not as bad but i've seen new york times articles like that

00:28:39.920 Like these places, when print went away, like physical print, the capital intensity in the capital intensive part of their industry disappeared.

00:28:50.700 So the only thing left they have to pay is salaries.

00:28:53.060 So like, shit, we can cut majorly by just not hiring competent people.

00:28:57.140 It's, you know, the quote unquote fiver, like the competency crisis.

00:29:00.200 And now you literally and now you have work from home because of COVID.

00:29:02.560 I swear to you, the actual physical capital intensive part of this industry has been gone for 20 years.

00:29:07.740 these places to the extent that there's money on their books it's just because it's a slush fund

00:29:12.680 for old jews they don't like that money doesn't swirl around within the industry and like pay

00:29:18.560 people for shit yeah like you said they're paid nothing and where's the money going to the offices

00:29:23.340 they're vacant there's nobody there there's no printing there's no printing press let me tell

00:29:27.320 you i have a bit of experience in this because one of the agencies i had worked for was involved

00:29:34.240 with post media and so i got to like if you've if anyone's worked in these large news organizations

00:29:40.400 like you will have seen offices get hollowed out over the course of a couple years covid straight

00:29:45.600 up killed most of these editorial offices and most of these people are just out of jobs now

00:29:51.520 but um if you if you know how post media and sun media and these other huge news conglomerates work

00:29:58.660 what i found interesting seeing how they operate from the inside was they're trying to be more

00:30:03.620 like advertising agencies so when they were going to advertisers what they were saying was

00:30:09.360 here's the the real estate the cultural real estate that we own we got a hundred

00:30:15.160 succession was kind of like this too if you watch the show succession it's like here's what we own

00:30:19.560 bunch of newspapers bunch of channels we have a captured audience with these media types and we

00:30:25.180 will sell you advertising based on this ecosystem that we own so it's not even that they're trying

00:30:30.960 to be the best anything it's like we create this huge ecosystem and we're selling you access to it

00:30:36.360 and they will sell it to you at bargain bin prices like i was seeing they essentially give you

00:30:42.500 newspaper magazine space for free as a value add if you're spending enough in um like tv or anything

00:30:50.100 and they're trying the thing is that a lot of these orgs never figured out digital not really

00:30:55.940 they would have a big thing that they would always try and get everyone in on was we own a display

00:31:00.760 network on all our websites so what does that mean it means banner ads they're going out there

00:31:05.280 saying look we can get you so many impressions like they're still going to people and selling

00:31:09.700 based on impressions impressions is just like views and anyone that knows digital marketing

00:31:15.360 knows views don't mean fucking anything views are like yeah i can get you in front of four million

00:31:20.220 people i can get in front of four million people for 30 on google like getting in front of people

00:31:26.280 doesn't mean anything to anyone who's serious but this is just like what the yellow pages does like

00:31:31.320 do you know how many homes have yellow pages nigga i don't know like you get them for free

00:31:36.420 and people you put them to soak up piss in the basement like it doesn't matter how many people

00:31:42.040 own a yellow pages how many people look at the yellow pages fucking nobody who how many phone

00:31:47.280 books are in circulation really if you think about it um but that that's the game they're

00:31:52.360 playing and they're not good at it and it's so bureaucratic it's so bloated and so full of just

00:31:58.340 these legacy people that don't understand and don't want to understand and again back to the

00:32:02.560 show succession that's why i love that show so much is because that show was about what's literally

00:32:07.980 happening right now every at fox at cbc everywhere the guys at the top trying to figure out like okay

00:32:15.120 i'm gonna die soon and this is gonna die with me unless i pivot in some big way and hoping you find

00:32:21.380 a young person that gets digital and find a young person that's not a sociopath that's kind of that's

00:32:26.840 kind of what season three and four in succession are about you should actually watch it but um yeah

00:32:31.920 that's like my in personal firsthand experience in a news organization like it's grim and i think

00:32:38.660 that's what this is it was just like a shakedown it was like we need money for this segment of the

00:32:43.380 population which i would respect more if they just went out and said it and i just think they they

00:32:48.560 tried it it's not working and so what do you do like you have to admit like this was the last

00:32:54.420 hurrah this is the last dying gasp of these huge media conglomerates before they just fucking

00:33:00.380 collapse because like even like what fox could always say how the how fox got so big was they

00:33:08.560 doubled and tripled down on community newspapers and local news when no one gave a fuck about

00:33:14.120 local news that's why fox is so big in like small town areas it's because they they would put

00:33:19.040 offices these places and control the small town media when everyone else was like all that matters

00:33:23.840 is new york and la and fucking chicago yeah yeah and but even those small towns are falling off

00:33:29.480 the map why because the small towns are hollowing out too there's it's a whole it's tied in with

00:33:35.460 demographic shifts it's tied in generational shifts it's tied in with like the towns that

00:33:41.520 were thriving aren't thriving anymore and you know then there's then these people also hate

00:33:45.300 the news now so you know anyway it's a big problem and that's why i just think you know i was joking

00:33:53.140 at the start but i don't think there's going to be news as we know it once boomers shuffle off

00:33:59.600 this mortal coil i i'm agreeing with what you're saying i just think that that process has been

00:34:04.520 and i i think you kind of said the same thing but the process has been going on for a long time

00:34:08.060 we already don't really have news like we had 20 years ago and the last few steps that it's going

00:34:13.000 to take i don't think like for example the new york times will probably take longer the toronto

00:34:17.300 star i think is probably maybe only got 10 years left max but i don't think it'll ever go away i

00:34:21.500 think there will always be a shittily poorly maintained blog called the toronto star just

00:34:26.840 because somebody owns the name and it's got that you know prestige but i mean it's already literally

00:34:32.840 a rag you know and it because a news site costs almost zero dollars to

00:34:39.220 maintain it seems like it's not gonna disappear like the logo will still be

00:34:43.580 there the site will still be up but nobody already nobody reads it the fact

00:34:47.600 that I can bring that up and say you know if you guys has anybody read this

00:34:50.980 like their articles are atrocious you could they're barely readable and it's

00:34:54.380 like well I mean I don't know I wouldn't know cuz I haven't read it in years like

00:34:58.160 yeah nobody has it's not it's not reputable anymore it's what yeah it's

00:35:01.760 definitely dead i think it's all i mean just going to die but i think it's already almost dead

00:35:06.480 anyways yeah i'm trying i read some news just today and i want to make sure i get the periodical

00:35:14.440 correct i think it's the national review because the national review just came out with some news

00:35:21.720 recently that they're they're they were coming out every week but they're going to come out monthly

00:35:26.200 and they're only going to come out as a magazine they're going to come according basically they

00:35:29.520 were what they were they're downsizing into something that's way less frequent and acting

00:35:35.900 like it's a prestige move like oh you're going to get a higher quality product but what that means

00:35:40.280 is that their demographic is dying their readership doesn't exist anymore and so you're seeing these

00:35:45.420 like big legacy magazines you know this is something i was like i don't want to get off on

00:35:50.900 a whole thing but one of the projects that we're working on behind the scenes i don't even want to

00:35:57.520 talk too much about it but let's just say that we've been looking very closely at a lot of

00:36:02.800 organizations in our space distant organizations from north america and europe and abroad about

00:36:11.940 like what what do these sorts of like think tanks and institutes what do they do and the vast majority

00:36:19.500 of them are just we publish articles on a website and we publish a magazine and like we they say oh

00:36:26.660 we release research but it's just another it's all blog posts all anything is is blog posts yeah

00:36:32.380 and they keep returning to them like is if you get millionaires involved billionaires involved

00:36:38.480 you get the people of the gatekeepers of capital they say i want to impact politics i want to

00:36:45.140 change the zeitgeist in society who do i go to who are these institutes all they're going to

00:36:51.040 have for you is another fucking magazine another bunch of articles about just the fact that it

00:36:56.180 doesn't matter what they're about it doesn't fucking matter so what are these institutes

00:37:00.920 doing and i'm not trying to rag on any institute in particular like i'm a big fan of american

00:37:05.660 renaissance i'm a big fan of a lot of these like think tanks and organizations that have done great

00:37:10.120 work but i'm like you know they've been they've been around for so long what's the next thing

00:37:15.960 what's the next form of this it needs to be something because we're seeing that if it's

00:37:20.480 just to produce a magazine the types of people who read magazines they're not going to be there

00:37:25.600 anymore and i don't think younger generations even see the magazine as something to give a

00:37:30.180 shit about no one's going to subscribe to a magazine and if it's just we're going to publish

00:37:34.040 articles on the website i'm like well then everyone does that anyone can give me like give me a hundred

00:37:38.340 bucks i'll set you up an institute tomorrow then it's a dead end i'll set you i can anyone can do

00:37:44.400 this shit now and anyone does and you know i'm not trying to criticize anyone i'm trying to think

00:37:50.840 ahead of like there has to if the goal is going back to what we talked about last episode the for

00:37:56.780 what question why are you doing this why are you starting to think for what is it to put a bunch of

00:38:02.460 more more noise out there into the zeitgeist or is it to change minds now how would one effectively

00:38:09.060 go to change a mind is it another conference is it another get together or is it it has to be an

00:38:17.080 irl you know in real life event sure but is it the same type event we've been having with the

00:38:22.420 same guys going to it every single fucking time and sure that of course of course there's value

00:38:29.100 in meeting people in real life but i'm i'm just trying to think there has to be an evolution of

00:38:35.100 what this is because i don't think the 20th century institute think tank political action

00:38:41.400 group is going to cut it just like people complaining about protests like what do we

00:38:45.820 what does a protest accomplish is are we missing something it's it's harder than ever to actually

00:38:51.460 get people's attention i the the mechanisms we use to get at people have not transcended with

00:38:58.880 the people that's a bit of a rant but does that no that makes sense you know hey i hate everything

00:39:05.680 right so don't take my word for it but the the amount of resources that are thrown at what those

00:39:12.960 of us who do it for a living know is low-hanging fruit and when i say those of us who do it for a

00:39:17.720 living apparently that's half of us like everybody does this now that's the thing that frightens me

00:39:23.920 you know as i go out there and and sharpen my tools and try to think of a way to make money

00:39:28.680 um with a real skill and there's no money for it like everybody is in this fucking thunderdome of

00:39:35.300 you know digital digital works digital grift trying to squeeze money out of the stone of

00:39:41.800 the digital economy and it's like i don't know how i don't know how long that can last and like

00:39:46.740 you said what for like i don't know where this is going aside from just saying i don't trust

00:39:50.860 the rest of the world anymore i just want to make money here because i don't have to leave my desk

00:39:54.820 i don't know man i don't know how long that's gonna last i just i i want i don't want a new

00:40:00.900 front on this extremely gay war we've been fighting i want a new war like when i i tune

00:40:07.600 into steven crowder and i'm watching a trailer for steven crowder's network this new event called

00:40:15.980 the re-platforming what's what's going on with steven crowder he's starting his his network on

00:40:21.920 rumble and i'm watching these sad men like brian callan do a little town hall in front of 15 of

00:40:31.700 their staff talking about how like this is the fight there we're on the side of truth we're

00:40:37.440 we're going to get them with comedy we're not going to be de-platformed anymore we're going

00:40:42.760 to take it to the streets like just platitudes endless platitudes steven and the louder with

00:40:49.480 crowder family have been battling it out on their own for a long time now well i am excited to be

00:40:55.180 part of an ever-expanding group of misfits and comics that have had enough and want to join

00:41:00.860 the fight. The pushback isn't just about fighting bad ideas with better ideas. It's not just about

00:41:07.220 shouting into a microphone. We're here to change hearts and minds, and we are going to do it the

00:41:13.480 way Stephen has always done it, with humor, satire, wit, and maybe a little screaming into

00:41:20.220 the microphone. You know what I'm saying? A little screaming, a little bit, yeah. A little anger once

00:41:24.420 in a while goes a long way we are going to entertain you so hard and so often that you

00:41:30.980 can't help but hear and see the truth you can't help it there is no one in the conservative space

00:41:37.780 pushing back on the left's terrible ideas with steven's level of funny no one's even in the same

00:41:43.460 area code so when steven asked me to join the family i was like where do i sign up that's the

00:41:50.780 and that's the product though i mean the product if none of this is real like crowder is just a

00:41:55.880 product he's the fucking like shapiro or or fuentes or any of them like none of nothing that they say

00:42:00.820 is true it's just they know that there's young guys who are desperate and lost and they want

00:42:05.360 to hear that so they just fucking say it you know that's why that's why crowder a gay man has a gun

00:42:10.280 on his desk you know it's not because he's ever shot in his fucking life it's because he knows

00:42:14.460 who's watching so yeah and this is all going to sound very obvious to people are going to say

00:42:18.740 dimes of course like we all know like i'm telling some people of course our listeners aren't like

00:42:23.620 that our listeners are all very intelligent well-to-do fellas but also like if if consider

00:42:30.200 if we were to ask them to donate money to a cause if we were to actually you know put we do accept

00:42:37.900 money to support the show we have a gum road i encourage everyone to go to our gum road and

00:42:42.840 donate there's exclusive content it's going to be a very exciting time over there

00:42:46.900 and we appreciate it if you were to donate five bucks a month but if i were to be serious and say

00:42:54.020 look i want you all to go in on a project too because to join the fight i would always have

00:42:59.800 to be asking for what purpose and what am i trying to get and that's why i don't no one's

00:43:05.260 really answering that question i get it's a grift i get america first is just take money to

00:43:10.040 be on the stage but i think we're allowed to say this because we've run a show which i think is a

00:43:14.940 pretty good show this show for what five years and we only set up any method to even give us money

00:43:19.800 like in this past year and we rarely mention it so like the little e-begging you just did i think

00:43:25.080 was that maybe the eighth time in the history of the fucking show that you've ever done it so for

00:43:30.140 we're allowed to say they're fucking e-beggars you know they exist solely to make this a profit

00:43:36.560 making enterprise and as you say if we ever asked for money we're not asking for money hopefully we

00:43:41.840 hopefully i don't have to eat my hat but we won't be asking for money to hey you love the show so

00:43:46.760 much just give me a buck no we're gonna do something with it right because i mean we didn't

00:43:50.940 need the money before why do we need it now because we're we have a plan we're gonna do a

00:43:55.360 thing okay yeah so we are working on a big thing and you're all gonna hear about it once it's closer

00:44:01.100 to be done but that this is why we're very self-critical and we're always stress testing

00:44:06.320 ourselves to be like am i being a hack am i being a fraud am i being like these people that i

00:44:11.260 despise and I'm terrified of becoming that person and becoming yeah I don't know like I keep coming

00:44:17.020 back to we all agree warfare is evolved we all agree that information warfare is evolved it seems

00:44:22.780 like those on our side have not have we've not really entered the 21st century I don't and I

00:44:29.400 say that about not just everyone I might be implying but even me too like I struggle with

00:44:34.740 it like we we're not on the cutting edge of information warfare with these sorts of fringe

00:44:40.320 ideas and beliefs and i don't know it just people talk all day about like we need elites we need to

00:44:47.060 elect our own elites you know we need capital we need institutional support and i was saying this

00:44:54.400 in the chat some chat i think this might have been prudentialist chat i'm like you know louis ck

00:44:59.580 had this great bit when he was on opine anthony he would see all these really like hack comics

00:45:07.580 road comics that would be doing the same set for like 10 years and they were kind of bitter and

00:45:13.320 egotistical about it as well he said what i would love to do is just rent out madison square garden

00:45:19.580 and fill madison square garden fill every seat with comedy fans and give it to them for one night

00:45:26.320 and have them perform their set in front of madison square 10 000 people whatever it is

00:45:31.800 so here here it is here's your big break go ahead and just watch them collapse and realizing that

00:45:38.820 most people who think they're destined for stardom and destined for success if they got

00:45:44.100 everything they wanted they wouldn't know what to do with it and nick fuentes is a great example

00:45:49.280 because he actually did get it he actually got it everyone everyone think think that

00:45:54.600 nick fuentes is every dream amazing to true right away right after like one after the other he was

00:46:02.400 in the room with trump trump was listening to him he was hired by kanye west he was like he

00:46:08.100 everything he wanted and he shit his pants in front of the united states of america and all

00:46:14.020 and all of his heroes think he's a fucking retard right now he's toxic he lost everything he's way

00:46:21.060 worse off than he ever was before his parents never should have let him do this that's the

00:46:26.600 thing like you get it but you don't know what you don't know what to do and you get it so it's like

00:46:29.520 let's say everyone's talking elite theory we need elites we need capital what would you do with a

00:46:34.740 billion dollars right now you don't fucking know 50 million dollars appeared in your checkings

00:46:40.780 account tomorrow what are you going to spend it on you don't no one fucking knows is it another

00:46:45.360 website is it another bunch of articles is it are you are you gonna start like a studio for a new

00:46:52.680 show or like there's not even a whisper of a would you buy the spear of longinus and drop it

00:47:00.780 on the white house is it longinus yes that sounds sexual the spear of longinus yeah if i was a porn

00:47:09.640 star my name would be the spear of longinus this guy's all about the long guys

00:47:13.780 isn't that the i thought the spear that pierced christ on uh calvary i thought that was what i

00:47:30.400 thought it was i thought it was like the longinus longinus you know why i think it's longinus is

00:47:36.680 because there's a watch brand called longinus and that's how they say it in the advertisement

00:47:40.740 are you sure i thought it was that yeah l-o-n-g-i-n-e-s longa long gines long gines

00:47:48.500 long gines i might i might begin this from neon genesis evangelion too i remember there's the

00:47:54.200 land to longinus is a is a longinus oh fuck bob is it longinus or longinus the watch

00:48:03.160 do you not remember the fucking advertisements all the time to everywhere jesus christ oh we're

00:48:10.920 fucked you're a canadian we could say it however the fuck we want it's a propositional language

00:48:14.920 canadian is it you know what it is a propositional language wait anyway that that's the point i wanted

00:48:22.400 to make where i i'm a thought experiment i would give myself is like what if i got a billion

00:48:27.960 dollars tomorrow what do i spend it on and i didn't have an immediate answer i had like like

00:48:33.220 i said there's not even like a whisper of an answer in these circles that are talking about

00:48:37.040 the methodology to get to the money but not what to do with the money that's a bit of a a rant i

00:48:42.900 wasn't planning on doing um i wanted to circle back um a couple of things i mentioned this is

00:48:50.060 kind of a conspiracy episode and i feel and this is relevant to the news thing because this is all

00:48:55.180 we're going to have in the future we're not going to have journalists we're just going to have

00:48:57.580 like we said the other day it came to me in a thought that's all it's going to be it's going

00:49:03.400 to be all my information is going to come from screenshots and come from my guys i try to warn

00:49:09.580 you i'm

00:49:10.200 no journalist no journalist survives the future this is you and the dudes it's and stuff you hear

00:49:21.020 and you and you kind of triangulate the truth that way so recently i don't know if you saw this

00:49:27.960 uh hear about the the fire in hawaii yeah jesus days after massive wildfires destroyed the heart

00:49:37.820 of western maui the desperate search for loved ones with hundreds still unaccounted for this

00:49:43.360 stunning drone video showing rows of torched vehicles now twisted husks frozen in time so

00:49:49.560 many people have died. My friends lost their grandparents in the fires. People are being

00:49:52.820 found in their cars. Now more than 1,000 names have been added to the FBI's list of missing

00:49:59.420 people. State officials are also encouraging family members of people who are missing

00:50:03.420 to provide their DNA so they can identify loved ones. This comes amid growing concerns about the

00:50:09.400 government's response to the wildfires. They include a shortage of water and clogged evacuation

00:50:14.800 rounds there's there's two parts of that story one that sounded like a conspiracy theory and it

00:50:22.500 turned out to be true so early on like people are talking about 4chan that there's this massive

00:50:28.360 inferno in hawaii and the government had a hand in killing people that people they were trying to

00:50:35.800 keep it hushed they were fencing people in not letting people leave forcing people to burn alive

00:50:41.080 in a fire and that sounded preposterous to some but fucking i'm looking at the

00:50:48.380 like an ap the associated press ap here maui residents who disobeyed barricades survived

00:50:56.840 fires those who disobeyed those who disobeyed the barricaded road closures during the maui fires

00:51:04.160 survived the disaster while many of those who heeded the orders to turn around perished in

00:51:09.200 their cars and homes with no way out um at least 114 people died they're still discovering bodies

00:51:16.380 right now currently but basically the cops had barricaded the roads and wouldn't let people

00:51:22.360 escape and the only people who survived the ones who drove up alongside drove up the mountain just

00:51:27.760 drove around the fucking cops i mean there's all kinds of stories but they the thing about all of

00:51:33.020 these stories they have one thing in common which is nobody helped them and they had to use their

00:51:38.720 their wits to save themselves there's not a single story so far that i've seen anyways and i've i've

00:51:44.340 watched a lot of this lately about you know there's no stories about oh the the firefighters

00:51:49.180 and the policemen led me to a shelter and there i stayed no because every story involves the

00:51:54.900 firefighters and policemen blocking the road and redirecting you back into the burning town

00:52:00.380 it is and again that sounds insane but all that conspiracy stuff early on was vindicated

00:52:07.340 because people would say well why would the government do that i don't fucking know but

00:52:10.840 they did and i don't know what the answer could be there's obvious this is the one not the one

00:52:18.820 there's sometimes there are there are stories like this but not all of them but this is one of them

00:52:23.940 where the like occam's razor like the most obvious answer that just makes the most sense right out of

00:52:29.920 the gate is one that you don't want to touch because it's so fucking heinous but to me everything

00:52:36.220 about this just says they are killing them so they can take the land for some private purpose

00:52:43.800 doesn't matter what the purpose is but the combination of like five different government

00:52:50.080 departments federal state local all colluding to kill these people to murder them by burning them

00:52:57.140 alive and then immediately oprah winfrey and mark zuckerberg and state senators buying up the land

00:53:04.540 at a tremendous discount because the owners are dead like that you can't paint that any other way

00:53:11.080 this doesn't this isn't even a fucking conspiracy theory because i'm just telling you what happened

00:53:15.860 yeah i want to let's focus on that for a second because this is the part like there's

00:53:21.160 several conspiracy theories linked to this story this we'll focus on three one was just proven

00:53:28.680 correct about the cops making you burn alive for no discernible reason the second is about

00:53:36.600 this was a planned demolition of maui and that they want to turn it into a smart city a 15-minute

00:53:45.420 city some kind of new type of city and that they needed the old city to be gone for them to do that

00:53:52.400 And looking at an article here at the Post Millennial, Hawaii governor says state is looking to acquire land that was destroyed in the fires.

00:54:02.460 And I read several other articles that were essentially saying the same thing, that the governor, that he wants to buy up all this land.

00:54:08.700 and there was a lot of articles out there if you look it up discussing a conspiracy

00:54:15.500 post that was made on tiktok saying that this was planned and that they want to buy up all the land

00:54:21.460 to turn into a smart city and all these articles saying that's crazy i'm gonna give a little update

00:54:27.660 on the hawaiian fires now i want you to look at this footage and this shirt doesn't look like a

00:54:33.240 fire to me it looks like something almost exploded or something went off now what's interesting is

00:54:38.200 Certain things are still standing while other things are not.

00:54:40.780 Now, the governor did say this is climate change doing this.

00:54:43.840 Interesting.

00:54:44.380 What they don't talk about is in January how they had in Maui a smart city conference

00:54:49.460 to turn Maui into an entire smart island, changing everything to electric, renewables,

00:54:56.660 solar panels, and pushing everybody into electric vehicles.

00:55:00.900 15-minute smart cities.

00:55:02.740 So now what's also interesting is next month in September,

00:55:05.300 hawaii is hosting the digital government summit utilizing ai to govern the island

00:55:14.340 it's almost like they're resetting something to start rebuilding for

00:55:17.940 this in which they're trying to push now when we look at all the climate change narrative that

00:55:22.900 they're going to try to push but they're not going to talk about the weather modification act of 1976

00:55:27.780 i highly recommend everybody look into this act because who is involved in the weather modification

00:55:33.700 activities department of agriculture department of defense department of interior epa and nasa

00:55:40.820 on one hand there's a part they're correct on because the tiktok video in question was saying

00:55:46.180 that there was a a conference in maui in january where they talked about wanting to turn it into

00:55:52.740 a smart city and this happens for one i could find no evidence of any such conference i looked

00:55:58.820 pretty hard earlier today i couldn't find it any anything like that is that to mean that they're

00:56:04.860 not trying to do it no but that's just like one little thing however you know the governor comes

00:56:11.020 out and he says the reason he wants to buy up all the land is to prevent foreign speculators

00:56:18.000 from moving in and snatching it up and that maui will be owned by nefarious international interests

00:56:25.360 right that's what he's saying and on the surface you know you're thinking okay that that that might

00:56:30.600 sound kind of correct but then you think about it for a minute because there's also stories of

00:56:36.340 there's still landowners because here's like even though the land had a wildfire sweep through it

00:56:42.700 people still own the land people still own the buildings ownership didn't go away so they we

00:56:48.180 have all these like land developers who are approaching owners asking them if they want to

00:56:53.760 sell them the land now right so you start thinking about like okay well that that sounds a bit

00:56:59.340 different because has this ever happened before did this happen in dresden did this happen after

00:57:05.840 world war ii that they just like unilaterally bought the land from all the people wanted or

00:57:11.700 did the or did the people who owned land during bombings still keep the land after and they just

00:57:17.520 rebuilt anyway because they're like they're like okay we'll buy your land and we'll rebuild it but

00:57:22.200 We're going to rebuild it into a new thing.

00:57:24.240 That's what he's saying.

00:57:25.120 He's like, this fire destroyed all these homes,

00:57:27.260 so we're going to rebuild,

00:57:29.240 but it's going to be completely different than what it was.

00:57:31.780 That's what he's admitting to.

00:57:33.900 So the conspiracy theory is fundamentally correct

00:57:38.880 because you could just have all the people rebuild their homes

00:57:42.800 or the landowners rebuild the homes,

00:57:44.540 but it doesn't happen if you're going around

00:57:47.280 and pressuring the government is pressuring them to sell their land

00:57:51.420 and they don't even want to right yeah that sounds suspicious doesn't it yeah of course

00:57:56.820 so that's why i started like oh maybe there's something to that too

00:57:59.580 the other conspiracy theory is that it's space lasers

00:58:03.760 that the wildfire was caused with directed energy weapons can i i want to stop you just for a sec

00:58:13.340 because you said earlier that you looked up and you could not find the conference they were talking

00:58:16.960 about i actually not i'm not a super genius but i did actually find the conference okay where

00:58:21.860 can you link it in the chat here i'm going to or read it out i'm just going to read it off because

00:58:27.640 okay so it isn't a quote-unquote it's if you search smart city conference you're not going

00:58:31.720 to find it i had to look up a directory of conferences that happened in that period

00:58:34.320 there's the hawaii international conference on system sciences 2033 the things they discussed

00:58:39.080 were organizational system technology internet and the digital economy decision analytics and

00:58:43.220 service sciences, collaboration systems, and technologies, digital and social media,

00:58:47.100 information technology, and healthcare. But if you read their little addendum here,

00:58:52.000 like describing each of these and the speakers, it's Smart City. It's how to use data analytics

00:58:58.100 to make business and government and health and everything else work together and how to

00:59:02.760 rejigger the economy and property prices and all of this. It's all of the tenets of Smart City

00:59:09.480 from a very hard tax engineering standpoint that's what the conference was about so if they want to

00:59:15.360 say smart city in one sense it was not a fundraising conference to get musk to donate to smart cities

00:59:21.700 it was an actual technical conference on how to physically build smart cities that's what the

00:59:27.960 conference was okay so you found it good i believe you and i should have looked harder so that's good

00:59:32.620 the tech talk guys vindicated i suppose completely vindicated because this is the type of conference

00:59:40.280 you would expect for people who are taking it seriously um and also what's amusing is that in

00:59:47.040 these articles that are calling out the conspiracy theories they have to explain what a smart city is

00:59:52.400 and a 15-minute city because it's an article and of course you need the context so it's funny it's

00:59:58.280 like there's a conspiracy theory that the government is trying to push smart cities on

01:00:02.700 people a smart a smart city is defined and they once they think the smart cities are going to

01:00:08.600 surveil them or track their behavior what a smart city is it's a city that is ingrained with data

01:00:15.080 collection at every level and it's being proposed by the who the world trade organization the u.n

01:00:21.380 like they're just listing all of these they're essentially describing the conspiracy theory

01:00:25.780 Yeah, they're describing it. It's not going to track you. It just collects data from everywhere all the time.

01:00:31.640 It's not tracking you. It's just keeping a record of where you've been.

01:00:35.020 That's what tracking is. What the fuck? It just has your location information at every moment of the day.

01:00:39.980 Yeah. And also, just so people know, the reason we structure news articles the way we do, in case anyone didn't know this,

01:00:48.220 the most important data and information is placed at the top of the article.

01:00:52.540 your average news article is written like an inverted triangle where the most high value

01:00:58.020 information is in the headline it's so if you read the headline you could technically get the

01:01:04.620 main gist of the news but as you read it gives more context however that context becomes less

01:01:10.960 and less important and they know that the majority of people don't read an article or a news column

01:01:16.520 or peace right to the end so when you see something like that buried there like they'll say they'll

01:01:22.940 call it the smart city conspiracy theory in paragraph two by paragraph five they're telling

01:01:28.380 you the smart city is which proves the conspiracy theory correct but they're fairly confident no one

01:01:33.580 even makes it that far and they would be right right and back to our original discussion a minute

01:01:38.120 ago this is why journalism needs to end anyways so who cares yeah exactly like you're the funny

01:01:44.900 thing is like we talked about this with covid like the conspiracy schizos who just had a bad

01:01:50.280 feeling about things were 100 right where we got lost was in the details where we got lost was like

01:01:56.340 all the people predicting like graphite nanobots and seven trillion people are gonna die but the

01:02:02.740 guys were just like this seems like bullshit and i hate everyone involved in this 100 right

01:02:08.180 the only correct people in all of this but the more you looked into it he kind of got taken down

01:02:13.880 strange pathways either like like a year ago we were all supposed to be dead according to some

01:02:19.780 of the people but then there's other stuff that kind of just fell away like i remember people

01:02:24.140 were getting all those blood clots and we kind of stopped talking about that there's still people

01:02:27.520 who are like you'll read an article every week or two but it's like yeah all these 20 year olds

01:02:33.060 are getting heart disease and no one knows why anyway and we're just supposed to like sit with

01:02:39.800 that it was the um the talking about we're about to get into space lasers oh yeah space lasers

01:02:48.680 that's what i kept here like some people were talking about space lasers or directed energy

01:02:54.020 weapons and that's always brought up in these articles too like then they're talking about

01:02:58.120 space lasers and i'm i am ambivalent on space lasers at this point you need to prove to me

01:03:04.520 that space lasers are not being used like yeah like no exactly yeah to me it's like okay like

01:03:12.780 they want you to hear space lasers and you think that's preposterous well what part of it's

01:03:17.320 preposterous is the fact that it costs i don't know 25 bucks to put a fucking satellite in orbit

01:03:23.240 now is it that we currently use lasers to do everything in this wretched society or i know

01:03:30.660 I think people, you know what, I think people still, like my mom's type of people, have a poor understanding of how microwave technology and laser technology works.

01:03:41.360 Like how powerful it is, even on a small scale.

01:03:44.300 Like there's a reason this shit has warning labels on it.

01:03:47.240 Like a microwave beam, which has been studied since like the 1950s as a power transmission technique in a vacuum, is powerful enough to send like just stupid amounts of energy.

01:03:58.980 and it's been established that you could set up a satellite to beam energy down to a receiver on

01:04:05.440 earth and the primary reason they have not implemented this is it's too fucking dangerous

01:04:10.940 because if the beam is off by a second of a minute of a degree it starts a forest fire that's the

01:04:16.960 reason they and it's like well maybe they have implemented it but they implemented it for the

01:04:21.480 bug not the feature right why not yeah well like it's just because they can always blame it on

01:04:27.280 global warming like all i'm saying is like like what part of this theory is so preposterous to

01:04:33.140 people because the technology part doesn't seem that outrageous it seems like something at all

01:04:37.720 they can do fairly easily it's just oh they would never do that i'd fuck fuck off of course they

01:04:43.120 would i think there's a conceit there and the conceit is that people people um the conceit is

01:04:50.660 that people don't want to think their government would murder their children and they know that

01:04:55.300 that is a silly thing to think but they have to believe it otherwise they will break down

01:04:59.960 emotionally so they hide that conceit with another upper level belief such as well it's just not even

01:05:05.800 possible oh sure cynically they could do that but it wouldn't be possible no technologically i'm

01:05:11.000 just going to explain to you right here how fucking possible not even for government but

01:05:14.480 for like a mid-sized business to do this like something like the size like facebook is too

01:05:19.700 large you know like uh cisco could could fucking could blow up the caribbean with a laser if it

01:05:25.500 wanted to right so you now have to explain to me the moral reason like a principled reason why the

01:05:32.120 government wouldn't and the answer is they would you know they would so why haven't they oh look

01:05:37.280 there's fires everywhere yeah they're doing it they're doing it right now yeah and also like i'm

01:05:43.260 i'm really starting to buy into a lot of this 5g stuff like i i keep seeing these experiments and

01:05:52.000 i keep seeing articles trying to debunk the experiments but like plants that don't grow

01:05:56.500 right when they're placed next to wi-fi routers and whatnot okay in front of me we have our two

01:06:03.260 groups we have the wi-fi group here to my left and we have the control group here to my right

01:06:08.760 which were nowhere near the Wi-Fi. Whether you can or can't see it on camera, there were

01:06:13.880 big differences between them, mostly at the germination stage. Some of our Wi-Fi group

01:06:19.020 seeds didn't germinate at all, whereas all of our control group seeds did germinate.

01:06:24.500 There are slight size differences and rate of growth differences between both groups,

01:06:29.540 with the control group doing better than the Wi-Fi group, and also one or two of the Wi-Fi

01:06:35.800 group are slightly deformed whereas all of the control group are pretty normal pretty consistent

01:06:45.320 now to recap really quickly we took 16 seeds in each group we put two seeds into each cell

01:06:51.160 tray to eliminate bad germination affecting the results the variety that we used was autumn

01:06:56.120 calabrese broccoli and and the power of these signals in causing problems with people and there's

01:07:03.800 there's all kinds of theories that go around about that and i realize that there's so many people

01:07:09.180 that want to just dismiss this out of hand i'm like why because i here's the thing i remember

01:07:14.040 this is the same generation that when laser eye surgery first came out they were cautious about

01:07:20.180 that like oh what happens at the 10 year mark what happened you know they don't know but everyone

01:07:24.160 just immediately bought into that all these electromagnetic signals are they have no effect

01:07:29.360 on anything ever and i mean if you know anything about life or reality you would know like everything

01:07:35.660 impacts everything all the time yes everything is in movement always forever so the idea that

01:07:41.900 we just we're being we're blasting all this new type of radio waves and information and radiation

01:07:47.880 that but yeah you don't have anything to worry about it that's and if if you are worried about

01:07:52.300 it you're a dumb asshole i'm like we really accepted that very quickly and i don't think

01:07:57.840 we should have you're telling me there's no effect on anything even at a low level like mood

01:08:02.260 irritability anxiety nothing bullshit so it's another case where if if they have an actual

01:08:11.280 scientific explanation the best thing they could possibly do is come out without all the fucking

01:08:16.560 attitude and explain it to us but the the tack they're taking is uh is like the schoolyard

01:08:22.260 classic uh well if you don't know i'm not going to tell you you loser you dumbass like we're the

01:08:27.080 idiots even though we've come up with a bunch of reasons why we think it's dangerous and you're

01:08:31.200 essentially just hand waving it away don't you know anything about radio frequencies dummy like

01:08:37.380 no i mean we do we're the ones we're the ones looking into it's like the vaccines like we're

01:08:41.220 the ones looking into it and there's one idiot talking about tiny robots and you cast all of us

01:08:47.500 in the same you know mold and say that we're all saying the same thing we're not a lot of us are

01:08:52.040 afraid of you know other other reasonable shit so it's like oh so you think all these 5g signals

01:08:59.920 are trying to beam orders into your head i'm like no but maybe it makes kids want to kill themselves

01:09:05.080 i don't know or maybe it increases the rate of cancer by two percent that's fucking severe that's

01:09:11.460 bad man like that's the my whole thing with covid i don't know if covid was designed to kill people

01:09:16.280 but the the vaccine certainly was and i'm not saying it's a mass killing machine but it kills

01:09:21.820 people it doesn't even kill that many people but it kills people the vaccine kills people

01:09:25.960 that's not a conspiracy this it's killing people today so like it doesn't have to meet it's a 500

01:09:32.760 million people or is it 10 000 even if it's 10 000 it's killing people talk about it you don't

01:09:38.020 want to talk about it you're part of the problem yeah and there's studies here i mean i'm looking

01:09:41.980 at one effects of wi-fi radiation on germination and growth of broccoli pea red clover and garden

01:09:48.320 crest seedlings and there's like a study a bunch of like school kids did in 2016 2013 where they

01:09:55.940 put uh plants next to a router overnight and they the roots went brown and dried up and all these

01:10:02.880 articles are like oh you know it might have been the heat given off by the router that did that

01:10:07.260 but i'm also and what they'll say is like oh first they give you that patronizing chuckle

01:10:11.840 and they'll say oh there's no evidence that supports that like anytime a science fucker

01:10:18.260 says to you there's no evidence to support it that just means what it sounds like there's no

01:10:22.560 evidence either way but also if you try to seek out evidence or conduct a study they'll laugh at

01:10:30.220 you they won't give you funding they won't allow research like how many studies have been done

01:10:35.360 into this actually i bet there haven't been any right who would have done it the wi-fi the the

01:10:40.100 fucking telecom companies probably not well that's the thing is you can't trust and maybe this is

01:10:45.180 part of the nature of conspiracy theories but like you can't trust the the mainstream to do

01:10:49.460 these studies like if a university of a major university or a government institution came out

01:10:54.240 and said 5g is safe okay but who funded that study right like you're saying i mean they're

01:10:59.560 the ones who are benefiting from it if it is a tool of social control or it's meant to curb the

01:11:03.500 you know population growth then of course they're going to say that you want it yeah and also this

01:11:10.020 cuts both ways because just so people know i'm not always wandering out into the weeds on these

01:11:15.420 issues i was watching a video earlier an interview on um this one of the previous owners of skin

01:11:24.180 walker ranch and a lot of people who are into this sort of stuff will know what skin walker ranch is

01:11:30.780 this piece of property where there's supposed to be a high incident rate of ufos and paranormal

01:11:36.880 activity everything from ufos to poltergeist it's just like a place where shit happens

01:11:41.940 and it was one of the guys who was a scientifically minded guy who purchased the property and was

01:11:48.980 the robert bigelow i believe it is yeah hold on people know of you because of bigelow aerospace

01:11:55.820 they know that you're this billionaire investor and you're a very successful businessman but you

01:12:02.040 have a deep fascination with ufos yeah yeah sure do and you know i'm i'm open-minded i'll hear all

01:12:13.060 this stuff however approaching this with the same mindset that i did the 5g stuff there were some

01:12:19.720 red flags of the stories he was telling you know i'll give you two examples from the interview

01:12:25.160 that i heard earlier today well because this is what i listen to when i'm at the fucking gym

01:12:29.440 right i listened to skinwalker ranch boomer hour yeah he said he went there to study uh the these

01:12:38.120 balls of light these ufos and became less interested in the ufos and more into the

01:12:43.480 kind of telekinetic maybe interdimensional stuff anyway he was talking about how

01:12:50.600 they did an experiment where long story short they put a bunch of stuff in the kitchen table

01:12:56.920 a bunch of marbles and string and stuff

01:12:58.860 and he brought a witness

01:13:00.780 he would conduct these experiments

01:13:02.680 to prove to people that stuff was happening

01:13:04.520 and document it

01:13:05.920 and they would leave the room and come back in

01:13:08.760 and no one was supposed to be in the house

01:13:10.980 and the stuff they left

01:13:12.840 on the table was rearranged

01:13:14.320 all the marbles were in a line

01:13:15.940 everything was as if it was coded

01:13:17.700 as if it was to communicate something

01:13:19.540 set up so the ranch manager

01:13:21.580 security guy go outside

01:13:24.020 there's nobody else in the trailer

01:13:26.500 They wait 30 seconds and come back in.

01:13:29.780 Nothing's been changed.

01:13:32.360 They go back outside.

01:13:34.140 They wait a minute.

01:13:35.600 They come back in.

01:13:37.200 Everything's changed.

01:13:39.160 It's not a circle.

01:13:40.320 It's a horseshoe.

01:13:41.960 The ball is outside of the horseshoe.

01:13:45.480 All of the jacks were paired in color.

01:13:50.340 In fact, when we did the before and after photographs,

01:13:53.140 I had, Charles had photographs here, and I said, now, look at these jacks.

01:14:00.220 What do you notice?

01:14:03.120 Well, he didn't make a comment too much, but I said, well, look, every single color is,

01:14:08.920 that we have pairs of colors, and they're all paired.

01:14:11.860 It sounds as if it was some sort of an effort to really communicate.

01:14:17.120 I think that's what demonstrations are.

01:14:18.740 I think that, you know, you have a thousand different kinds or a million different kinds of demonstrations in the consciousness world.

01:14:26.760 And he has a witness.

01:14:28.380 There's eyewitnesses there.

01:14:30.100 And even back when this experiment would have been conducted, I'm thinking, so you didn't have a camera in there.

01:14:38.280 You didn't have a mic.

01:14:39.880 Yeah.

01:14:40.180 Like all these ghost hunters out there, they bring spectrometers.

01:14:44.080 there's all kinds of gadgets you can code in to record any sort of disturbance in the room when

01:14:49.660 you're not in it we didn't have any of that shit we just had like a couple eyewitnesses from a guy

01:14:56.320 who went into this as a scientist who's supposed to know better that bothers me i'm like wow i

01:15:02.720 would have loved to see a video of that ah too bad too bad you didn't bring a camera to the

01:15:07.520 the property you purchased just for doing fucking experiments like the first thing you would do is

01:15:13.440 put camera to rig the house right stupid it's so lazy and then there was maybe the reason maybe the

01:15:20.480 reason uh he fucked up maybe the reason robert biglow fucked up is because he was a little high

01:15:25.300 that day you get nothing i don't know much about him i don't know too i didn't go deep on skinwalker

01:15:32.880 ranch because it's almost like area 51 it's the place that everyone goes cuckoo about but it

01:15:39.100 almost seems too good to be true like oh yeah every type of paranormal activity is there in

01:15:44.100 this one place whatever um maybe it is maybe it's an interdimensional rift sure the second thing

01:15:50.840 was that he's talking about the balls of light and he's got photos lots and lots of photos

01:15:57.680 of these balls of light and there's one that he's talking about specifically unfortunately he can't

01:16:03.460 find the photo uh what a shame damn just this one amazing photo science man doesn't have it whatever

01:16:11.440 he didn't he didn't upload it to his fucking laptop anyway but it's the photo he had a friend

01:16:16.860 there and they're on the front porch and it's ranch so it's at night and it's just pitch black

01:16:22.240 out there and there's a ball of light that came up very very close and you can kind of see it

01:16:27.700 juxtaposed against the the friend of his and he got a photo of it can't find it though and he makes

01:16:34.320 a comment about how the friend of his was very very sick and then once the ball of light appeared

01:16:40.580 and left he was healed it was a black black black and then they're asking for help and kind of

01:16:50.960 praying and so on. And all of a sudden, oh my gosh, it's so bright, you can't identify anything

01:16:59.160 except light in a large area around him. And then it starts to get to where it thins out.

01:17:05.820 And out here, you can start to count some individual ones that aren't so clustered

01:17:10.800 that you can't count them. Was he healed? Yeah, he absolutely was right there on the spot.

01:17:17.420 he felt great this was at the ramp yeah at night yeah of course at night and i remember stopping

01:17:24.880 it and i'm like sick with what what do you mean sick indigestion is it cancer is it a cold is it

01:17:32.700 a virus like you can't he was healed and then how was he healed did you test him after did you go

01:17:38.480 get a fucking cat scan and see the tumor his head is gone like that seems to me i would lead with

01:17:43.940 that story i would say you won't believe this shit i got evidence i got a before and after mri

01:17:49.540 right here i'm looking at that tumor is gone the tapeworm is gone it's just like he was real sick

01:17:55.540 and then he got better it's like okay so i guess i guess it's also angels and i guess you don't

01:17:59.920 give a shit about proving things yeah anyway that's just evidence of like i'm also the guy

01:18:06.520 that will listen to a podcast about skinwalker ranch i'm like i don't know man we're gonna do

01:18:12.680 a 5g episode at some point in the future i'm sure i got a book all about 5g and electromagnetism

01:18:18.220 and we're going to dive right into that um and i guess that that just leads into this one other

01:18:24.440 thing i wanted to do just on this sort of conspiracy tip um i'm looking at an article

01:18:31.780 in science reputable site science.org the capital s science

01:18:39.840 this is published in 2023 august 2nd the headline is quote we're changing the clouds

01:18:50.580 an unintended test of geoengineering is fueling record ocean warmth um and says pollution cuts

01:18:59.740 have diminished ship tracking clouds according to global warming so in short what they're saying

01:19:06.380 here is that because there's been a hit to airline travel there's not as many uh there's a

01:19:16.320 part here um researchers are now waking up to another factor one that could help one that could

01:19:21.660 be filed under the category of unintended consequences disappearing clouds known as

01:19:26.220 ship tracks regulations imposed in 2020 by the united nations international maritime organization

01:19:31.800 try to cut pollution so basically there's fewer planes in the sky and fewer like contrails or

01:19:38.100 chemtrails that's actually causing the planet to warm so this is all again bound up in a

01:19:44.920 climate change argument and they're hoping to use that to distract you from that

01:19:50.880 oh it turns out that geoengineering and weather engineering is not only possible we've been doing

01:19:58.500 it by accident or it's so easy we've been doing it by accident yeah it turns out it turns out

01:20:04.620 changing the weather engineering is the easiest fucking thing in the world and that and then back

01:20:10.880 to the whole chemtrails thing we're saying but like oh what you think the vaccine is dangerous

01:20:14.700 because there's tiny robots in it no i think it's dangerous because it causes myocarditis and that's

01:20:20.120 been proven and like with the chemtrails you think it's dangerous because it has mind control gas

01:20:24.540 no i think it's dangerous because you're causing it to rain and destroy my crops as part of a

01:20:29.440 fifth generational war that's being fought over the past 20 years so i mean that to me the whole

01:20:35.000 the sorry not to get ahead of it but the whole the forest fires thing and the space lasers and

01:20:40.020 the lot of it it's all like why is it that we aren't at war with china maybe we are at war

01:20:45.240 with china yeah why not like what do we not believe in war anymore do we not believe in

01:20:51.200 asymmetrical war like what theoretically solar geoengineering could cool the entire planet

01:20:58.160 it's actually potentially incredibly simple because all you need to do is inject a bunch

01:21:03.440 of particles into the stratosphere there's a number of ways you could do that recently

01:21:06.960 a study out of yale and harvard looked at the details of how this would be done

01:21:13.440 in that harvard and yale study they imagined building a fleet of planes

01:21:17.840 up to 95 of them that would make 60 000 flights a year the fleet would spread hundreds of thousands

01:21:24.560 of tons of sulfur dioxide into the stratosphere every year after 15 years they reckon the world

01:21:31.760 would cool by 0.3 degrees celsius you'd have to explain to me what part of this is so outrageous

01:21:40.080 here's a little paragraph from the science article some of the basic science is fairly

01:21:46.240 well understood sulfate or salt particles seed clouds by creating nuclei for vapor to condense

01:21:52.800 into droplets basically they're talking about cloud seeding so again this is like oh it's fairly

01:21:57.960 understood like in another couple years they're gonna be like well of course directed energy

01:22:02.380 weapons have been known about for a decade or so everyone kind of knows about direct energy weapons

01:22:07.120 just shut the fuck up like you can't go straight to normalization like this is where again maybe

01:22:13.420 it's just us cluing into this, but I'm like, a few years ago, you said any sort of weather

01:22:17.980 modification was insane and baseless. And now you switch to just, well, everyone obviously knows

01:22:23.660 about it. The record number of fires burning across Brazil's Amazon rainforest has prompted

01:22:30.060 renewed global outcry over climate change and big spending. $5 million from Leonardo DiCaprio,

01:22:36.360 10 million pounds from the UK. Meanwhile, Bill Gates is backing the first high altitude experiment

01:22:41.720 of one radical climate change solution,

01:22:44.420 creating a massive chemical cloud

01:22:46.060 that could cool the earth.

01:22:47.460 It's called solar geoengineering

01:22:49.040 and it's highly controversial.

01:22:51.940 And now this is just you saying

01:22:53.660 we should do it again, I guess.

01:22:55.980 Or anyway, that's just another thing

01:22:58.260 where they talked you past the sale.

01:23:00.980 They talked you past,

01:23:02.700 you were right about all this shit.

01:23:05.640 And I just want people to hold onto that

01:23:07.760 as news goes away,

01:23:09.720 as we don't get any more news.

01:23:11.240 Can you imagine that? Can you imagine not getting this fucking great beet reporting?

01:23:17.380 And again, come back to chemtrails. Oh, they're not spraying chemicals. Why? Tell me why. Tell me why they wouldn't.

01:23:23.080 Well, they are spraying chemicals because they need to cause beet formation. So they are spraying chemicals.

01:23:27.940 Objectively, they're spraying like they're it's salt and whatever else.

01:23:30.760 Maybe it's not mind control drugs, but they are literally filling chemical tanks and sending planes up with the express purpose of spraying chemicals into the air to cause cloud formation.

01:23:39.100 So, yeah, they're spraying chemicals.

01:23:41.400 Are you spraying mind control drugs?

01:23:43.120 No, we're spraying, you know, altered salt high into the atmosphere.

01:23:48.980 And it has the unintended consequence of causing severe depression and people don't want to leave their houses as much.

01:23:58.660 Yeah.

01:23:58.980 And we've also got simultaneous fires all across Canada and now Hawaii where entire towns have been destroyed.

01:24:07.700 And then the U.S. has one of the worst droughts in 100 years in the Midwest right now.

01:24:12.180 Meanwhile, China has some of the worst flooding in 1,000 years that's destroying their capital city.

01:24:18.380 So to me, at all of these things combining over the past three, four months, I honestly do think at this point we are not party to this.

01:24:27.780 But there is a fifth generation war, not a total war.

01:24:31.600 It's almost like an ancient war, but it's a war between two great powers.

01:24:35.180 and it's being fought without them bothering to even tell us and we're we we us and the chinese

01:24:41.300 are the victims of it because the weapons being used destroy millions of acres of countryside

01:24:45.900 through fire and flood but it is a war of fire and flood and here's another speculation we like

01:24:53.720 to speculate on this podcast what could these energy weapons be used or it wouldn't be used

01:24:58.000 for assassinations but what if you wanted to melt an ice cap because you wanted fresh water because

01:25:05.620 fresh water is more valuable now than anything you know not now you wanted to raise raise the

01:25:11.020 sea level to destroy your enemy's yes maybe you could do all these things and you don't need to

01:25:15.760 be that precise when you're hitting a fucking iceberg yeah that's that's an easy target so

01:25:21.040 think of big targets because yeah yeah of course if you're off by just a fraction you could hit

01:25:27.120 the target or he can hit his cousin of course well let's say he just wanted to take out a field

01:25:34.260 yeah that's easy anyone can take hit a field anyone can just hit like a city and then oh

01:25:41.560 something's on fire who knows you know anyway what happened i don't know there's a theory that

01:25:45.700 the laser can't burn things that are blue that's a bit of a kooky mate but maybe like i'm not saying

01:25:52.060 kooky at all i'm not saying anything's kooky anymore if it was a laser there would absolutely

01:25:58.900 be a color profile not it didn't have to be color but the point is certain materials reflect certain

01:26:04.860 frequencies so blue the reason we see blue is blue is an optical frequency so if you had a if you had

01:26:10.720 a blue laser that you could see like an optical blue laser if it had a blue surface it would

01:26:16.700 reflect off of the blue surface and not heat it up but if it was a red laser it would heat it up

01:26:20.740 Like, that's actually, that is just how lasers work.

01:26:23.460 So, look, it's a very rudimentary understanding of it, but he's right.

01:26:26.840 And likewise, with a microwave laser, there would be materials that would reflect it, like metal, for example.

01:26:32.500 But other things would absorb it and heat up and start a fire.

01:26:35.160 And so if you crossed it across a landscape, you'd have certain things are impenetrable and other things would catch fire.

01:26:40.720 And that would actually explain some of the strange patterns we've seen.

01:26:44.240 that was one of the claims made about the hawaii fight that there was evidence that like blue

01:26:49.620 things were spared you know that's where it gets kind of crazy because like well the fire itself

01:26:54.800 wouldn't spare like the blue umbrella or whatever it is but like if you were to direct the laser

01:27:00.000 at something blue and i was seeing what looked to be a laboratory demonstration of a laser

01:27:06.940 across a spectrum of colors and it was lighting everything on fire except the blue things it's

01:27:11.980 told like it was doing what you were just yeah like that's that's a well-known thing and like

01:27:17.380 phenomena in physics so like that's not negotiable what's negotiable is whether or not that's what

01:27:21.880 was happening whether we see that in the evidence of the fire but like what i said for example like

01:27:25.680 never mind the laser bit but what i don't understand maybe somebody there maybe there's

01:27:30.000 not a conspiratorial explanation but if you look at many of the aerial photos the forests and the

01:27:35.700 parks are not burned which is not just that the trees are standing like i know when you have a

01:27:40.300 forest fire often the trees are still standing but the leaves the leaves are not only not burnt

01:27:45.100 they're still green so i don't know if those are doctored photos but i've seen a lot of them i've

01:27:49.920 even seen them on mainstream news sites where you have large sections of park like a c-shape

01:27:55.020 of park or forest around an area which is largely still green and the the houses are just flat black

01:28:02.320 platforms there's nothing left and like i maybe the trees i know the trees have more water in them

01:28:08.460 i guess but to say like the trees don't the trees transmitted the fire there but they themselves

01:28:13.920 didn't burn somebody's gonna have to explain that to me that that's an interesting one and again like

01:28:18.920 i don't accept that people are crazy for what going down this lodge this decision tree yeah

01:28:27.380 look i mean again i said this earlier i'm open i'm not saying this is how it is i'm saying this

01:28:32.920 is where i'm at and if you want me to not pick up a gun and solve this shit myself you need to

01:28:37.440 explain to me what's happening i will gladly put my gun down i will gladly i don't want to do

01:28:41.420 anything but if you're gonna every time i bring this shit up if you're gonna tell me host judas

01:28:46.240 you're so stupid guess what man that's not a good enough explanation and now we're gonna have to

01:28:50.400 fight about it okay so just tell me what's actually happening and this is labeled as

01:28:55.220 disinformation or misinformation and the government of canada is going to meta and saying

01:29:01.580 we demand you pay more of our soldiers on the front lines of truth and their only job anymore

01:29:09.480 is to just persecute people like us like if you notice the media's only goal right now

01:29:14.460 is to ferret out misinformation i'm pretty sure that's where most of their budget goes so

01:29:18.780 consider that like for a long time how it seemed the entire news apparatus was geared against trump

01:29:25.080 well now it's geared against us people not just us people like us anyone that just doesn't like

01:29:31.200 the news the news is against you specifically not if you don't believe if you don't trust msnbc

01:29:38.300 they are talking about how you are their enemy right now that's fucking ludicrous and then they

01:29:44.100 want they want more money no i want you all i mean you being fired would be the nicest thing i would

01:29:51.040 do to you i would i would have a fucking directed energy weapon colored journalist

01:29:59.200 a journalist

01:30:01.880 colored directed energy

01:30:03.660 weapon. That would mean it would reflect

01:30:05.720 off the journalist and burn everything else

01:30:07.620 around it. I did not

01:30:09.560 understand what was being described.

01:30:13.780 Humiliation.

01:30:14.980 So only

01:30:16.080 journalists.

01:30:17.540 It would kill everything but journalists.

01:30:19.940 It would kill all of us. Bad directed energy

01:30:21.740 weapon. Bad. So it would have

01:30:23.800 to be an us colored.

01:30:26.080 It would have to be a

01:30:27.520 racist podcaster colored energy weapon in it what what a misfire that's 1488 hertz is the uh

01:30:40.160 the frequency of that laser

01:30:42.520 i guess we can get into the big part of the show that i think we'll start now because it might

01:30:51.120 might end up taking longer than i thought because we're going to get into a topic that is still

01:30:59.580 continuing on the economics arc that we've been on but this we're getting into an area that you

01:31:05.980 are very very passionate about and you you kind of let me go on the last one about princes of the

01:31:12.780 yen by richard werner but you're a great student on economics being a a retired libertarian

01:31:20.580 as all the best of us are um and i i think this is a book that i found very very interesting and

01:31:30.460 i like it and you don't and i want to hear both sides of this so i'm going to describe

01:31:36.900 what it says in the book with the disclaimer that i might lean more towards this sort of thinking

01:31:46.640 but you're completely against it and i think it's important to show both sides of this so

01:31:51.680 and and i think we were talking about before you got a lot to say so that's why i'm kind of giving

01:31:56.080 us a bit of a wider berth on this part of it but i'm gonna try not to flame it because the guy

01:32:02.740 mosler is is very well respected um it's not like he's uh i personally think his ideas are

01:32:11.420 crackpot ideas but like from a social standpoint he's not a crackpot he's probably historically

01:32:16.920 one of the the most well-respected living economists even though he's not actually an

01:32:21.960 economist but that's how he's treated so all right so the book is i actually had two of his books

01:32:28.120 uh the one we'll talk about now is the seven deadly innocent frauds of economic policy

01:32:34.800 and i had another one of his called uh soft money economics the second one and these are very very

01:32:42.380 short books and i found that each book was kind of repeating itself i believe he wrote seven

01:32:47.820 delhi instant frauds as kind of a nice way to encapsulate his other books as sort of a career

01:32:53.300 retrospective it summarizes a lot of his ideas it's like 100 pages anyone could get it read it

01:32:59.300 in an afternoon if you want to um he's very very to the point with his ideas and i believe you've

01:33:05.620 read this one uh you know what i actually haven't read any of his books what i've done is i've

01:33:10.640 consumed he hasn't he runs an institute like an economics institute and i've read a lot of his

01:33:15.080 articles and i've watched i've watched like a hundred hours of his interviews and debates with

01:33:20.660 other economists okay now this is good because this will just summarize all this stuff in fact

01:33:24.300 You might know very well more about this than I do, which is why I want you, feel free to jump in, feel free to interrupt and feel free to go off on as many rants as you want to, because I think it's important because what we're trying to do, not just promote and investigate other ideas, it's to really get to the heart of the matter.

01:33:42.320 um and you know i've read a lot of other economics books prior to the podcast that we never covered

01:33:49.980 on the podcast you know i read wealth of nations i read i read some um milton friedman as well

01:33:57.900 like that like the very very basic boilerplate capitalist stuff a lot of the build that stuff

01:34:03.660 they would give to you in economics classes i read that so i have that perspective even though

01:34:08.380 we haven't really given it the spotlight in the show before maybe we will at some point but

01:34:12.700 um the arc that we're on right now is a bit more i would call it spigot friendly

01:34:19.220 um yeah my basically i respect that that's what we do right like we're going through this right

01:34:25.300 now this and princes of the yen are related you you support it i don't we're gonna discuss it but

01:34:32.020 that's the point is to get the the story out there like let's talk about the fucking book

01:34:36.620 so i'm not going to try to throw him under the bus until the last minute yeah so and i'll just

01:34:41.280 go through it's it's pretty simple a lot of it and even the last fraud the seventh uh sin

01:34:46.540 isn't even really a sin it's kind of like because he also uses this book as a launch pad to discuss

01:34:53.100 his run for governor i believe like i think he released this book because he was seeking a

01:34:59.540 career in politics and he has a list of his policies at the end of the book i think are

01:35:04.660 kind of interesting and that's kind of what we'll end on his his recommendations for how to action

01:35:09.560 his ideas and i appreciate that i appreciate someone who's got the theory but then also as

01:35:15.020 here's what i would do if if i if i like this is what we were talking about earlier if i got

01:35:19.960 everything i wanted if you gave me power if i got the capital here's five things i would do to make

01:35:25.300 the country better i at least appreciate that sort of motivation anyway so um so let's

01:35:34.640 start with the first fraud and these are what he calls frauds they're innocent frauds so he

01:35:41.300 believes they're just misconceptions so he's kind of being fantastical with the language but he's

01:35:47.080 just like most of this is ignorance most of this is just people think it's one way but it's actually

01:35:51.220 another and they don't know any better and throughout the book he will cite conversations

01:35:56.700 he's had with various congress people or senators or other economists people he's debated you've

01:36:01.680 seen him in many many dates before so this is something that he does um and that's i just sorry

01:36:08.580 i don't want to i don't want to interrupt the whole thing but it's interesting to me so you

01:36:11.600 said it's a it's a 100 page book it's a quick read but you said a significant amount of it

01:36:16.940 is anecdotal conversations that he's had with people he'll he'll mention it so he like

01:36:22.460 a lot of no that's fine because like there's a lot of economic books out there that are longer

01:36:27.580 much longer than 100 pages and don't include that almost at all and the reason i bring it up is i

01:36:33.040 mentioned this to you before we started the show this book is used almost like an economic handbook

01:36:39.080 by uh ilhan omar and aoc and a lot of the far like bernie sanders a lot of the far left congress

01:36:47.900 people and senators right now are this is this is essentially it's not a textbook but it's almost

01:36:54.000 like a like a like a primer for modern monetary theory which was more or less originated by mosler

01:37:02.080 so yeah basically what a lot of those individuals and these people are not typically economically

01:37:08.400 minded people but i see why they would like this because uh in short what he's advocating for is

01:37:16.800 like a lot of what fiscal conservatives would cite as like the deficit is bad we have a deficit we

01:37:23.280 should not have a deficit we shouldn't be in debt we shouldn't just create money and create credit

01:37:30.100 we should be more restrained and conservative in our spending and he's saying the opposite um

01:37:36.240 the large and we'll get to this in a second but if i had to give like the brief headline it's like

01:37:40.920 sense and we'll get into this even further in the next episode we talk about the role of the central

01:37:45.620 bank is that since uh the dollar became decoupled from the gold standard we have what's called you

01:37:52.500 fiat currency fiat currency and a lot of people understand it's like oh it's nothing it's just

01:37:56.340 paper it's made up but we don't have a gold standard now we effectively liberate ourselves

01:38:01.540 and that in theory gives policy makers a lot more um freedom to uh construct policies which

01:38:08.340 they generate full employment and and and yet we don't do those yeah i like to say it opens up

01:38:13.140 their options yeah far beyond what are the imagined options today in washington and some

01:38:20.500 Some people will say that to discredit the financial system.

01:38:24.220 And in a way, they're right.

01:38:24.980 It is made up.

01:38:25.800 And he's saying that can be used to our benefit because what he's saying, since it became decoupled from any sort of anchor, any sort of card commodity, it's like, really, it's just numbers on a spreadsheet.

01:38:41.300 And he said, with the right application, you can essentially create infinite credit.

01:38:47.120 And as long as it's applied in the right areas, in the right productive forces, that there's almost no downside. You can have growth indefinitely. What he would also say is that if you misallocate the money, that's where you get inflation. That's where you get all the all the bad stuff you talked about.

01:39:05.880 the core of MMT and for the elevator speech, if you understand this, you've got a big head start

01:39:13.080 into the big change that MMT has made to policy, and that is sequence. Up until that time,

01:39:20.140 all thinking, all mainstream models, all discussion implied or understood that the government had to

01:39:27.160 get money first through taxes, presumably, before it could spend. And every congressman,

01:39:34.100 every member of parliament they understood they had to somehow get money in before they could

01:39:38.820 spend it and what they couldn't get in taxes they would have to go out and borrow and in the u.s the

01:39:44.580 metaphor is you borrow from china and leave the debt to our children and that sequence is pervasive

01:39:52.500 there was no no one questioned that sequence all the mainstream models that had g minus t equals

01:39:59.540 this and that the presumption was that the government would take in through

01:40:03.940 taxing or borrowing you know the funds that it was going to

01:40:06.820 spend that that's okay now modern monetary

01:40:10.420 theory turn that turns all that around with the

01:40:13.060 understanding that that's that's entirely backwards that the

01:40:17.460 the government through its agents the federal reserve

01:40:20.180 one way or another is the source of the dollars

01:40:24.020 that are used to pay taxes they don't come from

01:40:26.900 the pro the private sector they come from the government he's basically saying a lot of the

01:40:31.580 constraints that people typically think exist don't really matter that that's the big headline

01:40:38.200 of the book as far as i'm concerned um and we'll get into the actual things and so that's the first

01:40:42.460 deadly innocent fraud fraud one it said the federal government must raise funds through

01:40:47.320 taxation or borrowing in order to spend that's the innocent fraud in reality the federal government

01:40:54.420 can always make any and all of its payments on its own currency no matter how large the deficit is

01:41:00.600 or how few taxes it collects so that that's i think that's he leads right with the most that's

01:41:06.980 just a fact yeah yeah yeah that's that's just a fact but this is a sorry i i won't no no i i would

01:41:13.180 i would like you to jump in as much as so i i'm gonna just paraphrase it back to make sure just

01:41:17.400 so that you can catch me if i'm not saying the same thing but you know people in congress and

01:41:22.680 people in in the government seem to think that they can only spend money that they take from

01:41:26.980 the population through taxes but the truth is because they control the printing press they

01:41:31.140 can actually print as much money as they want um and that is factually true it's factually true

01:41:39.740 in the sense that we no longer have a gold standard and they have you know itchy trigger

01:41:44.540 fingers and a printing press they can literally they have the physical ability to print as much

01:41:48.160 as they want that's what he's saying you will notice that in that statement there is no value

01:41:52.580 judgment we're not talking about consequences we're not you know i'm no i know he's going to

01:41:56.420 talk about them in the other six but at this point he's laying the foundation rhetorically by saying

01:42:01.080 we can literally do whatever we want saying i can do whatever i want is kind of like saying

01:42:05.380 i can step on the train tracks i can i can yes you can go ahead and do it and see what happens

01:42:11.460 that's where he's got a line here that says the government itself neither has nor doesn't have any

01:42:17.540 dollars any more than a bowling alley ever has a box of points when he says when it comes to the

01:42:23.480 dollar the federal government is the scorekeeper that's excellent you know what i think bowling

01:42:28.420 alleys should implement that they should give free points to anybody who wants them at the bowling

01:42:32.400 alley let's do that and see how long bowling alleys last no no here's let's keep doing this

01:42:37.140 i think they should give me all the points because i there are certain people during certain games

01:42:43.580 that should bowl a 700 game yeah i look i know you're being funny but the great thing about it

01:42:49.840 is you've identified the role of modern monetary theory in our economy in our society right now

01:42:54.920 it is the economic economic theory that supports tyrants it is actually designed it's purpose built

01:43:01.640 and funded by tyrants so that they can take your money justify it economically and do whatever the

01:43:07.140 fuck they want with it that's and i i played my hand but that's what mmt is dimes goes to the

01:43:12.760 bowling alley and he thinks he should bowl 700 they give him all the points and at a at gunpoint

01:43:18.160 he tells everybody else there's none left yeah i'm gonna again spoil my own argument here because

01:43:23.900 i was gonna make this at the end what i'm advocating what people don't usually like about

01:43:28.860 there's this idea of like spigots spigots like you turn it yeah and the water comes out in this

01:43:34.020 case the free money or the credit i'm a big spigot guy yeah so the reason a lot of people say

01:43:41.300 most people don't like spigots is because they're just turned on over frankly useless minorities

01:43:47.260 that's what they'll say like it's turned over it's cranked open over the black community or

01:43:52.860 the aboriginal community and there's no spigot turned on over the cool schizo white guys

01:43:59.380 and all i'm saying is like crank open the spigot over the cool white sociopaths like myself and

01:44:07.600 then watch watch everything get better i like that twist i like that twist i i the only the

01:44:13.780 only framing that i would change there i agree with like functionally what you're saying we

01:44:18.860 should do that exact thing but you need to just understand the damage the economic and social

01:44:24.620 damage that this theory in practice causes essentially amounts to war and what you're so

01:44:30.140 what you're saying is this is an a theory which we can use as a weapon in an ethnic sectarian civil

01:44:36.040 war to starve and rape our opponents yes yes do it let's do it mmt aryan mmt all the way yes let's

01:44:46.620 go yeah i i we i've already won i've already won okay but as as a as a peacetime economic theory

01:44:54.400 in a high trust society the people that support this who are all jews need to be hung so yeah

01:45:00.380 here's the next part i want to get to i want to get to this now um because it kind of ties into

01:45:04.920 he front loads the book i think the most important stuff is the beginning of the book it gets kind of

01:45:09.800 repetitive near the end a bit more anecdotal but the real crux of his arguments at the front end

01:45:14.800 of the book he says this does not mean that the government can spend all it wants without

01:45:19.720 consequence overspending can drive up prices and fuel inflation but never insolvency or bounced

01:45:26.760 pension checks and this is something i wanted to talk about and and this is a big topic and maybe i

01:45:32.520 i shot myself in the foot by getting into it now but what we talk about especially is like

01:45:38.160 millennials and zoomers and and this generation it's like oh my god what eventually the pension

01:45:43.520 is going to run out eventually like there's going to be not enough money there to pay all these

01:45:48.600 retirement funds and he's basically saying that there's probably never going to be a future where

01:45:54.520 the pensions the pensions alone are going to run out they'll let a lot of stuff collapse but they

01:46:00.060 have the power to make sure the pension checks the retirement checks always arrive now it might

01:46:08.260 be the case that we're just not afforded that as young people but as long as you know there's never

01:46:13.320 going to be a situation where like old people seniors and boomers stop getting their retirement

01:46:18.540 payments that's so i think that's the claim you think that's never going to happen and they'd

01:46:23.200 have the power to just do that forever or until they all die but there is a casual omission of

01:46:28.760 the cost of that he can't again i'm not disagreeing that you can do that the government could do that

01:46:33.600 today he's advocating the government should do that today but he's not talking unless he is later

01:46:38.520 but he's not talking about what that would cost and let me just okay let me return to i wanted to

01:46:44.420 say that and i want to return to what we were just talking about because i think it's interesting now

01:46:48.100 before the episode you had made a good point and we were talking about um kind of the allocation

01:46:55.640 of capital and whatnot now i've got a hypothetical for you kind of based on what we're just talking

01:47:01.200 about what if because your point was that any centralized planning that tries to replace

01:47:08.700 market forces will end up with a misallocation of the capital and just centralized planning

01:47:14.060 doesn't work very well now what if there's a hybrid model where you have the free marketplace

01:47:21.680 It's kind of, quote, unquote, free, free-ish, kind of like we have now, and that the central planners kind of identify what productive forces emerge and choose just to bet on that.

01:47:35.020 For example, what if, you know, some bank, the central bank, decide to free up a lot of credit, essentially turn the spigot off of black people and crank open the spigot over SpaceX and Elon Musk's companies?

01:47:50.940 wolfie reallocated all the free welfare shit and put it in this one company that emerged

01:47:58.500 organically emerged from the market in a way it didn't really because spacex and

01:48:03.020 musk have been taking government subsidies this whole time which might be evidence that worked

01:48:07.000 but i'm like would that be offensive to you if we just if there was like boundless free credit but

01:48:15.000 it was all pointed in the direction of colonizing mars this you're talking about two different

01:48:22.200 things and this is again one of the rhetorical traps that the way that mosler as a sneaky jew

01:48:29.040 writes and a lot of a lot of to be fair a lot of economists write this way because they know

01:48:33.560 people don't grasp the theory but you can talk about i'm going to write my theory supports the

01:48:39.940 thing you want right and then the other part of it is my theory in principle uh supports your

01:48:46.080 culture and your morality so which is to say you might not get the thing you want but it creates

01:48:51.440 a world you want to live in so if the government through this central planning decided to fund

01:48:59.100 musk to colonize mars yes i want that i you're giving me what i want but i'm also my iq is above

01:49:07.600 So I'm saying, regardless, you are still doing that through a system of tyranny, which does not agree with my moral principles. And functionally, I know that the fact that you gave it to him means that when the Democrats are voted in in four years, they can just as easily take it away and give it to the niggers. And I would rather that power not exist. That's a political argument. There's also an economic argument against it, but that's the political argument against it.

01:49:35.240 now i'm for taking all the money from blacks and aboriginals and giving it to elon musk now call

01:49:42.580 me crazy i look i love that but again you have you have to be able to separate it morally

01:49:48.360 and say what you're doing is tyranny now it might be you know righteous tyranny against your enemies

01:49:54.600 i'm fine with righteous tyranny against my enemies but don't ever call it good economics it's not

01:50:00.600 it's war you are rape you're raping the enemy that's what you're doing yes and that is but

01:50:06.680 it's not economics though it's not economics though because you can't take the reason i say

01:50:11.300 it's important is because if you want to take that system when the war ends and you've killed

01:50:14.760 them all and the whole population is white and they're friendly you're going to apply that system

01:50:19.200 to your own people now you have now you're raping your own people for economics so that's the reason

01:50:24.960 that we have to make the distinction this is a great theory for wiping out our enemies it is

01:50:29.660 not a great theory for building a growing healthy economy with lots of employment all i want from

01:50:35.000 you from this episode is you to sit back and let yourself become a tyrant just let it just let it

01:50:43.080 happen look i'm a selective tyrant i don't want to tyrannize my own people i'm not just a tyrant

01:50:49.440 only now here we go with tyrannize what is it what do you say before longinus longinus longinus

01:50:58.080 longinus i did look it up by the way it's not longinus it's longinus

01:51:01.260 like j like jam i like tide that's the pronunciation longinus when you say you

01:51:08.660 looked it up where did you where did you look this how did you look this up when did you know

01:51:13.280 when you you know when you go to wikipedia yeah they have the english pronunciation on the top

01:51:18.860 page you can click on it and they'll show you yeah but that's all written by swedes and such

01:51:24.080 Well, you know what it is? There's Longines, which is the watch brand, which I got wrong.

01:51:28.980 But I was talking about the spear of Longinus, which Longinus was the Roman guard that threw a spear at Christ's torso.

01:51:36.260 Because really, why would they name a watch after that?

01:51:39.560 Well, they did. It is the same word, but the watch is a Swiss brand, so it's a French word.

01:51:45.400 I don't know. It's a fucking huge thing.

01:51:46.900 This is an odd-ass company.

01:51:49.180 all right so also before we continue uh i used elon musk just as an example i don't want people

01:51:58.060 to get the idea that i'm a huge elon musk fan i'm neither hot nor cold on elon musk i don't

01:52:05.400 tiny elon musk fans i well i i what he represents is just an imperfect insanely ambitious irregular

01:52:15.860 type of guy i would just i'd like more of him i'd like it if if the spotlight wasn't on him as like

01:52:22.400 the only guy who seems to be taking moonshots like this like you know i i again i didn't love

01:52:28.260 steve jobs i like the role that steve jobs fulfilled in as as an innovator as just a type

01:52:36.940 of mind and i would like to maximize those types of minds i'm just reaching in a bag i'm coming up

01:52:41.460 with elon musk there's probably some others right now but yeah yeah anyway sorry i cut you off there

01:52:45.420 Robert Bigelow, interesting.

01:52:46.960 I know you didn't make that connection,

01:52:48.480 but you know Robert Bigelow is the other competitor

01:52:50.420 for all of the space contracts, the Skinwalker Ranch guy.

01:52:54.280 Are you joking or is that true?

01:52:55.860 I'm not fucking around.

01:52:56.680 I've been following him since I was a teenager.

01:52:58.820 Robert Bigelow is actually one of my heroes,

01:53:00.200 which is why the Skinwalker Ranch thing was so weird.

01:53:02.340 He created, and this is a real thing that's been tested now in a few cases,

01:53:06.020 he created an inflatable space hub

01:53:08.500 so you can have the size of a house,

01:53:11.420 like 200 cubic meters of air,

01:53:15.420 in like a mylar inflatable bubble in space and they have one up there they tested it and they're

01:53:21.280 they're working on a project now in the next 10 years to build a ring of these bubbles that you

01:53:25.700 can go up in a shuttle and like work on massive labs you're talking about like 100 times of the

01:53:30.580 internal area of the iss so holy shit okay yeah okay better than musk give every give every

01:53:39.240 fucking give all the credit turn on the credit spigot over robert bigelow yeah let's get to

01:53:44.960 space and let's figure out what the fuck's going on at skinwalker ranch let's buy this guy some

01:53:48.380 cameras or something you can at least get him a fucking camera for the cabin give this guy an

01:53:55.320 iphone i i don't know like trillion dollar federal program to find skinwalkers yes a couple of

01:54:02.220 fucking pea brains did it in paranormal activity i think robert bigelow can figure a couple things

01:54:07.240 out the thing i wanted to get to was taxes and he just explained taxes here in a way that might

01:54:14.620 seem obvious to a lot of people but i thought this would appeal to you uniquely because like

01:54:22.680 we agree that the government doesn't raise money with taxes it doesn't it's like to do something

01:54:27.540 we have to take taxes from the people um it doesn't necessarily need to do that which begs

01:54:32.840 the question why taxes why do taxes exist at all and he explained it in a way that taxes are just

01:54:39.780 a way to control people it's a way to control spending and it's a way to kind of make it so

01:54:45.860 people don't actually drive up the price of things what we've recognized is that the currency itself

01:54:52.420 is a simple public monopoly okay okay so only the government issues it yeah the government

01:54:59.060 is the single supplier of the thing that it demands for payment of taxes it's a monopoly

01:55:04.500 it's a coercive monopoly if you don't pay your taxes you go to jail or lose your house or lose

01:55:08.660 your car otherwise it doesn't work and there aren't any other schools of thought that start

01:55:14.340 with that you know with that money story and everything we do begins with that money story

01:55:20.260 that's our understanding that's where you start your understanding of anything financial without

01:55:25.140 that you're not starting at the beginning as i spoke to you before the show so that's that's

01:55:28.900 the beginning so uh the beginning is a government that will presume wants to provision itself which

01:55:34.660 which means it wants soldiers for the army.

01:55:36.420 It wants judges and lawyers in the legal system.

01:55:39.000 It wants public health workers.

01:55:40.200 It wants to get stuff done.

01:55:42.520 Yeah, and it wants to transfer real goods and services

01:55:45.200 from private to public domains.

01:55:48.840 And so it needs labor.

01:55:51.580 It needs food for the cafeteria.

01:55:53.440 It needs fuel for the army.

01:55:55.740 It needs all these things.

01:55:57.840 So why is the federal government taxed us, he says,

01:55:59.720 if it doesn't actually get anything to spend

01:56:02.040 and doesn't need anything from us?

01:56:04.660 He said he gives an example of parents, parents with a few kids and you distribute coupons for them.

01:56:14.500 Like the parents demand 10 coupons a week from their children for chores.

01:56:19.660 And when the parents don't actually need the coupons, basically money and taxes are a way to drive production.

01:56:26.020 It's to get people to do something that you want, which makes sense to me because that's all money is.

01:56:31.980 money it doesn't exist but what money drives people to do is to be productive and he actually

01:56:40.220 gave an example of this is actually what they did in africa in the 1800s he said when the british

01:56:45.980 established colonies in africa to grow crops the british offered jobs to the local population but

01:56:52.220 none of them were interested in earning british coins what they said was they placed a hut tax

01:56:57.820 everyone has to pay a hut tax uh so all of your dwellings were the government you got to pay us

01:57:02.460 um and then that's only payable in british coins so suddenly the area was monetized and

01:57:08.060 everyone needed coins they started like trading with each other doing things to get coins like

01:57:12.700 they just i'm gonna i'm gonna stop you right there because this was just so obvious so look

01:57:18.380 and look i don't like africans any more than anybody else does but we're talking about this

01:57:23.260 as a model for an economic system so you're saying you have a project and there's people who you need

01:57:29.840 you need them they don't need you right you've asked them to participate and they said no i'm

01:57:34.640 not interested you don't have anything i want i'm busy fuck off and you said no i need you

01:57:41.440 so here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna point a gun at you i'm pointing a gun at your fucking

01:57:45.700 your child's head you're gonna give me the dollars that you don't have or i'm gonna kill

01:57:51.860 your fucking daughter and the nigger says well shit where do i get the money and he says you

01:57:56.980 work for me now you have the money now you can pay me you never had the money now you have it

01:58:02.320 but it's gone because you paid me back the net interaction here is i get all of your labor for

01:58:08.760 free and you get fucking nothing what you do get is all the work you were doing in your community

01:58:15.240 the farming and the church building that doesn't happen now because you're a slave to me so yeah

01:58:21.760 this is a great system for enslaving someone you've literally you're essentially just defined

01:58:27.160 slavery but it's a special type of slavery which is administered in such a way that the person of

01:58:33.720 below average intelligence thinks it's economics but it's fucking straight up slavery but that is

01:58:40.900 our system it's literally how they made money the united states of america and that was my

01:58:46.080 and that was my other point is that he said in the first sin right he said in the first sin that

01:58:52.140 you know congressmen and senators and all these people who have been administering this country

01:58:55.700 for 250 years but apparently no less than him all of these people believe that we need to tax in

01:59:01.180 order to pay for services but that's not true he's established that now and now he can go and tell

01:59:05.800 you what it's actually for but the thing is the first one as i said earlier isn't fucking true

01:59:10.480 You actually do need price discovery, which means you need to tax the people based on their income, based on the number of people you have, and use those dollars, and those dollars are used to pay for the services.

01:59:24.140 We have a friend, a government worker friend, who believes that the private industry creates nothing, that it exists at the behest of the government, and the government creates everything.

01:59:32.740 But the reality is no government worker has ever put a nail into a building, has ever, you know, framed a house or ever shingled a house or has ever farmed a fucking plot of corn.

01:59:43.280 All productivity is the private sector.

01:59:47.060 Everything that you eat and you live in comes from the private sector and private sector people need dollars to pay for food for their fucking families.

01:59:55.020 So, yes, actually, you do need money to pay for those things.

01:59:58.180 so the reason that like again he's he's got you the listener or you the reader into this loop

02:00:05.260 thinking well the money doesn't matter what is the money actually for oh the money is a tool of

02:00:10.080 our own enslavement we should get rid of it no the money isn't a tool of your enslavement the

02:00:14.860 money was created as a system as a token or a marker as equity to represent the labor that

02:00:20.420 you've done which we as a community value right now you can use it to go and trade for something

02:00:25.020 else that's what money's always been and every other economist except people who are bought into

02:00:28.960 mmt understand this basic truth even the fucking keynesians understand this sorry i mean i just i

02:00:35.980 guess i disagree because we've we've discussed how money was created it was literally like it

02:00:40.160 was created by governments like there before governments there was no money like you had

02:00:44.360 labor and stuff but it was just to extort it was to control but that isn't but that isn't true

02:00:49.140 though we had a gold standard prior to 1970 but why do people care about gold like there was a

02:00:54.320 pre go like people weren't just paid chunks of gold right so this is just money just basic money

02:00:59.520 theory when you when you labor right you can labor for yourself but you would never do surplus labor

02:01:04.320 unless you thought you could exchange that labor for some kind of equity that was tradable and

02:01:08.160 fungible that was worth the labor so if you have a community where there's a system we'll call that

02:01:14.400 system money but it's a system whereby you can do surplus labor and other people even though you

02:01:20.080 didn't labor for them and there might be a time gap between you and them you can actually take

02:01:24.800 that labor refine it into something like a gold coin give it to them and they actually value it

02:01:30.080 enough that they will give you something that you want later on in the day that's totally unrelated

02:01:34.320 like you can build a house and they'll give you a chicken that's where money comes from it was not

02:01:38.960 created by government like all things money is just a resource it's a it's money is more similar

02:01:45.280 to churches or to corn than it is to a government institution thinking of money as a creation or

02:01:52.080 institution of government is like thinking of education and health care as an institution of

02:01:56.000 government it's something that they realized was profitable and important for controlling society

02:02:00.460 and so they have captured it but money is not a creation but i was thinking like money is the

02:02:05.660 representation of the capture of all that all that stuff predates money money was a way for the state

02:02:11.040 to to quantify it and i'm saying the money is the money is gold like they're it historically this is

02:02:16.500 not arguable prior to government to organize governments every society even like pre-written

02:02:21.300 societies all had forms of money money is just the thing that humans have always done but it was

02:02:26.640 a thousand years but it was meant to buy the governments of those like there's no way around

02:02:31.300 no one made coins no individuals made coins judas like it was a central thing okay for example

02:02:38.540 you there's two examples here so first of all ancient ancient governments didn't first of all

02:02:43.540 they did collect money but they didn't have money they used grain so like the babylonians and whoever

02:02:48.540 they would literally use grain for payment so they're using grain as a medium of exchange it's

02:02:52.700 bad money but money does money doesn't mean currency i think you're talking about currency

02:02:57.040 like coins and dollars and things like that currency has a type of money but money is just

02:03:02.040 a medium of exchange money is anything that people trade because the work that they done

02:03:06.080 the worth that they did

02:03:07.140 needs to be represented

02:03:08.000 in order to get value

02:03:08.920 from someone else

02:03:09.560 so like literally

02:03:10.660 a bushel of corn

02:03:11.640 could be money

02:03:12.680 if you're going to trade that

02:03:13.580 for someone else

02:03:14.080 that's money

02:03:14.400 like if I give you my shoe

02:03:15.520 and you scratch my back

02:03:16.540 the shoe is money

02:03:17.360 that's what money means

02:03:18.280 currency is not the shoe

02:03:19.640 currency would be a $5 bill

02:03:21.020 right

02:03:21.780 so let's just say

02:03:22.840 we're talking about currency

02:03:23.720 we're not talking about

02:03:24.600 this abstract thing

02:03:26.440 you're right

02:03:26.840 where it's also corn

02:03:28.160 and stuff

02:03:28.680 currency is always created

02:03:30.200 by money

02:03:30.720 or sorry

02:03:31.100 it's always created

02:03:31.780 by government

02:03:32.260 and is always controlled

02:03:33.080 by government

02:03:33.460 that's what currency is

02:03:34.180 I agree with you there

02:03:34.880 but then this is the

02:03:35.900 rhetorical problem with moser and the mmt guys is they're not talking about money they're talking

02:03:41.180 about currency but all of these economic arguments prior to mmt were in the context of money not

02:03:47.700 currency they've written out and i said this at the beginning they've written out a whole sector

02:03:51.380 of the world of consequences that they can just ignore because all that matters is what the

02:03:57.060 government does it doesn't matter what people want to do with each other it doesn't matter about the

02:04:00.760 society and none of that matters you know well that's kind of what he's saying he's saying like

02:04:04.320 the productive forces and everything are still there and that the currency is just a way to

02:04:09.800 control that is basically what he's saying because what this means is that all taxation

02:04:14.500 is just theft because you know we're circling back to a lot of the libertarian stuff when they

02:04:21.020 would say taxation is theft people think that's a silly thing to say but it kind of is if they

02:04:26.600 don't need it to fund their own stuff and it's only that that means that taxes in this sense

02:04:30.920 are only a form of control then.

02:04:34.740 The model I like to use

02:04:36.500 so people can understand

02:04:37.640 the pricing and how it works

02:04:39.000 is, you know,

02:04:40.680 my wife and I were in Pompeii

02:04:41.740 a few years ago

02:04:42.400 and the guide showed us

02:04:44.300 the coins that they used

02:04:45.240 and he said what happened

02:04:46.500 in Pompeii was a nice place

02:04:47.420 to live because they would

02:04:48.080 collect these coins for tax

02:04:50.180 and then they would pay people

02:04:51.100 to do public service,

02:04:52.240 police and public safety

02:04:53.880 and the aqueducts

02:04:54.700 and all this sanitation.

02:04:56.720 And I said, well, you know,

02:04:57.520 what actually happened

02:04:58.220 was you pay the people first

02:04:59.420 and then you collect the coins.

02:05:00.920 He goes, no, no, no, you collect tax, and then you pay the people.

02:05:04.420 I said, well, where did the coins come from?

02:05:06.320 He says, well, the government made them.

02:05:08.140 I said, well, how did anybody get the coins to pay the tax?

02:05:10.240 And he goes, so they spent them first and then collected them.

02:05:13.080 I said, well, how else can it work?

02:05:14.380 And he grabs his head and he goes, no, no, no, and he walked away.

02:05:16.380 He wouldn't talk to me anymore.

02:05:18.140 Okay, so, but everybody in Pompeii knew how it worked.

02:05:21.100 They put a tax on everybody's house.

02:05:22.560 People would show up for work.

02:05:23.680 They'd pay them these coins out at a coin bar.

02:05:25.740 They weren't valuable coins, and they'd get things done.

02:05:28.960 Well, they found like 20,000 coins in the street.

02:05:33.620 How'd they get there?

02:05:35.280 Okay, so the government must have spent more than it collected.

02:05:38.160 Okay, that's what we call deficit spending.

02:05:40.040 And because people were coming to earn the coins for two reasons.

02:05:43.020 Number one, to pay the tax.

02:05:44.140 Number two, they needed some to be out in the street.

02:05:46.180 That's the net money supply in the economy.

02:05:48.440 Okay, the coins in the street are the public debt.

02:05:50.280 They're the net money supply in the economy.

02:05:52.140 They're the equity that supports the entire credit structure.

02:05:54.780 this is i my personal belief although i haven't heard too many people talk about this my personal

02:06:00.400 belief is the inclusion of this in mnt is a way to capture low iq right wingers into their sphere

02:06:06.440 and the reason is people that have studied right wing economics you know um friedman for example

02:06:13.920 if you've stuck if you've looked at friedman who's pretty basic you would know that yes taxation is

02:06:19.220 essentially theft but the biggest tax especially lately the government levels against us is

02:06:24.480 inflation which is to say you hold on to money expecting the price of a good to be a certain

02:06:30.640 price later on and when you go to buy that good it turns out that it's not five dollars anymore

02:06:35.200 it's 12. right that's what that's the biggest tax that we deal with like if your income

02:06:41.680 is a hundred thousand dollars and the government has ten percent inflation you've lost ten percent

02:06:47.520 of your income which is you know imagine if the government put a ten percent tax on you

02:06:53.360 there would be a revolt and so the whole problem with him saying oh you know don't worry about

02:06:57.680 taxes we don't even need to tax we're just going to spend we're just going to print and spend

02:07:02.800 and then he's lying to you when he says there won't be inflation he has no proof of that there

02:07:06.880 will be and then the problem with inflation is it's a tax for which there is no congressional

02:07:12.560 hearing or bill passed there's no way for the public to pass judgment on it and to the majority

02:07:17.200 of the public they don't view inflation as a tax they don't even understand they're being taxed

02:07:22.160 To them, it's an act of God, which is, again, why this is so tempting to tyrants.

02:07:27.340 Well, this is why I think it gets perverted by the AOCs of the world, because when I hear guys like him, and I haven't listened to as many debates or anything as you have, so I might be way off on this, but he's not even saying, at least from my perspective, that that means that we should get rid of taxes.

02:07:44.480 he's saying but this is the function of taxes as a way to both inflate and deflate as we need it

02:07:51.420 because you need to inflate and deflate the economy at various times to just just to control

02:07:56.900 it that's what the central bank does it inflates it inflates deflates but then i will just say i

02:08:02.420 will just i just want to point out just further further for reference and somebody can ping me

02:08:05.740 on this if i'm incorrect but the whole idea of inflating and deflating the economy through the

02:08:09.780 business cycle using tax money to do that like either holding it or releasing it or printing

02:08:14.140 more printing less that's business cycle theory that's only been around for less than 100 years

02:08:17.920 and it is very very modern and the concept of taxation to pay for public services we just

02:08:24.000 talked about has existed for 5 000 years so for him to say the whole point to taxes is just slavery

02:08:30.180 and to like juice the business cycle is ridiculous because we've only known about the business cycle

02:08:34.660 since the first world war so could we make the argument that we're in unprecedented times though

02:08:40.180 because money is decoupled from any sort of commodity he's right no but he doesn't say that

02:08:46.360 he wants it to be even more decoupled currently previously that money was coupled to a hard

02:08:51.900 commodity which cannot be increased in volume which is gold right i'm not saying it's great

02:08:56.920 i'm just saying it was better than fucking nothing we decoupled and then it's essentially coupled to

02:09:01.860 like the trust in the government that's all that's all it's been coupled to since the mid 70s

02:09:06.640 is our faith that the government won't rape us and now he's saying essentially we don't even need

02:09:12.160 that we don't even need the taxation which is and by by taxation i mean the government used to not

02:09:17.920 be able to collect say 50 taxes because if they did we'd murder them right so there was a limited

02:09:23.380 amount of tax funds now he's saying don't worry about taxing you can have infinite money but that

02:09:27.920 will still come to us through inflation so yeah it's actually it's it's not he's not going back

02:09:32.820 to the gold standard he's going the opposite direction at x accelerating in the opposite

02:09:36.880 direction well i guess the argument against that would just be that there's no conceivable future

02:09:42.280 where we recouple with the gold standard i i don't think so i mean i think the conceivable future

02:09:47.520 where we recouple with the gold standard is death of 150 million people but it's yeah you're right

02:09:54.540 aside from that no there's no way because the entire system corporations governments organizations

02:10:00.520 all rely on constant growth through money printing and fiat inflation so yeah no you're right that

02:10:06.580 the only way to you only swirled where we couple back up with real goods is a lot of blood yeah

02:10:13.280 basically even in the next book we talk about called the money revolution it really comes back

02:10:18.040 to nixon in the 70s once we we i mean the dollar uh became decoupled from the gold standard it

02:10:25.660 basically said like all bets are off um everything is and if you look at the way that the deficit is

02:10:32.120 if you look at the amount of government debts in the trillions there's i think the way at least

02:10:38.360 the way i see these guys looking at it which is like there's no way back the only way out is

02:10:43.600 through the only way it was like post covid i think american like debt in terms of credit is

02:10:52.220 like three trillion dollars it's something ridiculous and then the only way that makes

02:10:55.840 sense yeah yeah and the only way it makes sense is and he kind of gets into this in the book which

02:11:01.180 is like this is never getting paid down because it doesn't even make sense to pay down because

02:11:05.620 it's like oh yeah it's made up um so it's funny that his solution to never paying it's never

02:11:11.000 getting paid down he's looking at that and saying rather than saying this is a disaster we need to

02:11:16.840 resolve it he's saying hey look free money well it just keeps increasing and we don't have to pay

02:11:22.060 it down let's take more well what he says is it's not so much the money it's what the money causes

02:11:28.040 to happen like releasing or taking money out of the system controls people's consumer spending

02:11:34.020 and that's something you want to control just like money like in the africa example money doesn't

02:11:39.440 matter it's you're controlling the productive forces you're getting people to work you're

02:11:44.360 creating that demand so what the government actually cares about slaves though i just want

02:11:47.900 to bring up again that that example though is not the same as us because they are literal

02:11:51.620 slaves at the point of a gun unless and if you want to use the example it's fine but then we're

02:11:56.140 just saying we're not talking about economics we're talking about we're slaves at the point

02:11:59.320 of a gun at the end of this podcast you should pick up a gun and shoot your local congressman

02:12:02.620 yeah but that's also that's that is what you advocate for because you know it's true

02:12:06.040 i i know it's true so i am well i can't say that but no but like i know you can't you can't say

02:12:11.740 it's not true though it's not wrong no like i said at the beginning most of the stuff he's saying

02:12:16.340 right most of the stuff he's saying is true but the conclusion that he's drawing is exactly what

02:12:22.480 you'd think a 60 year old hedge fund jew would draw which is this is an excellent opportunity

02:12:27.420 for tyranny and rape and my conclusion is it's an excellent opportunity to gather a militia to

02:12:32.780 murder tyrannical rapists i want to do some raping we're both agreeing that it's true and i'm saying

02:12:39.480 this is like the dividing line that separates us from them in the coming sectarian war yeah and

02:12:45.180 really like we're still at the first deadly innocent fraud no we made it to three at least

02:12:51.680 didn't we in in the process of discussing we actually touched on all the other ones like the

02:12:56.040 second one it's not a complicated theory the second the second fraud is uh with government

02:13:01.640 deficits we're leaving our debt burden to our children he says in reality um higher what they

02:13:08.820 says higher deficits today mean higher taxes tomorrow he says you know there's really no

02:13:14.140 realistic way for children to even pay back what basically what he's saying and this is something

02:13:18.320 i actually agree with he says we're in a situation right now where we're trying to limit investment

02:13:24.540 in the we're limiting spending right now that would be spending that's invested in the youth

02:13:29.920 because we're trying to save the youth from debt but he says that all that matters really is that

02:13:35.740 young people are able to keep producing so it's like what we should be doing is spending but

02:13:41.220 spending on education invest in jobs programs like making sure that the next generation did

02:13:47.340 he actually say education we need to spend on education when we have like we have exponentially

02:13:53.020 higher education spending we have education spending that would make the eyes bleed on

02:13:56.820 any of our he's just he's saying like it results in worse all he's saying is like the government

02:14:03.780 needs to treat the younger generation as production for like that's how but that's kind of what

02:14:10.200 they're saying like they're not gonna be able to pay us to retire it's like no no one's paying

02:14:14.040 anyone really it's just that you the government keeps going and you need people to keep the

02:14:19.900 government going he's essentially saying we need to come to terms with the fact that we're all just

02:14:23.480 slaves and the money doesn't exist all that exists is bullets well basically all he said is like this

02:14:27.440 is what we did in the 60s and he said we did it in the 60s and that and it led to all this like

02:14:32.120 free shit and then we stopped and he's like well you're in a position where you're kind of fucking

02:14:36.860 over the young people right now no one's getting anything out of anything so you might as well

02:14:42.380 like make it so young people can get more education and get more trained and more advanced

02:14:48.220 skills or whatever just keep going on that track wipe out the debt and hand them a bunch of free

02:14:53.340 goods that's essentially printed not even free goods just like free like training for

02:14:58.700 for university i mean because money is a store of value right or currency whatever you want to say

02:15:03.400 but like the point is is if you have debt and then you no longer have debt it's the equivalent of if

02:15:08.000 you had no debt and you were handed thirty thousand dollars from an economic standpoint it's identical

02:15:11.780 there's no difference and the same thing like well i'm not going to give you a car i'm not going to

02:15:15.320 give you 30 grand but i'm going to give you a car now you have a car well the equivalent would be

02:15:18.800 somebody who the point is it's the same fucking thing you've still inflated it because that car

02:15:23.760 has value the people that made the car have to be paid which means somebody had to pay them

02:15:26.660 you had to pay 30 000 for the car the people that you paid you didn't give the 30 000 to the kid

02:15:32.100 you gave him the car but the auto worker got 30 grand and he's going to go back into the economy

02:15:36.140 and he's going to drive up the cost of cheese by 20 and the big thing about this is they always

02:15:41.660 hand wave inflation so i i would i think the big thing if people are listening to this is to hear

02:15:46.200 mosler's primary argument for why this will not affect inflation the inflate massive increase

02:15:52.340 in the like t1 money supply is not going to affect inflation what's the t1 money supply for

02:15:58.120 the folks at home let's say just just i might have said that wrong but it's essentially the

02:16:02.440 number of dollars floating in the private sphere so mom and pop have a checking account those

02:16:10.120 dollars and then the the bank has cash in the in the till you know and the company that they work

02:16:16.980 for has a safe the real money not the money on paper but like the actual money that's like

02:16:21.420 accountable we talk about gdp the money that's moving around and is real that's the money supply

02:16:26.220 so if you're you know you're increasing that supply right you know that if you are printing

02:16:31.280 money that money that wasn't there before you're not destroying any of it you're giving money to

02:16:35.160 people that didn't work for that money they might be in a bad spot you might think they morally

02:16:38.940 deserve it but they didn't have the money now you're giving it to them what are they going to

02:16:42.340 do with it they're going to spend it and spending is competition which causes prices to rise that's

02:16:47.020 just basic economics but they always say that that it's not real so let's say we're in a situation

02:16:51.920 right now where there's record lows of specifically young white men but also young men generally

02:16:59.920 not going to school priced out of it whatever it is let's say government they did go to school

02:17:06.340 racked up all kinds of debt went to fucking harvard or whatever got that debt canceled

02:17:12.340 so that they've got an education now does like does that still cause inflation

02:17:18.240 yeah of course of course how does that drive up the price of cheese though

02:17:23.460 because they buy more cheese do you think a guy who has fifty thousand dollars or a hundred

02:17:30.060 thousand dollars in student debt versus a guy who has zero debt and is keeping every paycheck do you

02:17:35.000 which guy do you think buys more cheese well then it just sounds like we have an investment in

02:17:37.820 keeping people like poor and sad we do that's how it currently works yeah but that's bad that's bad

02:17:44.000 like this is a solution to that though no yeah but no it's not a solution because the price of

02:17:49.280 cheese goes up and it cancels it all fucking out because it's like well now you have money in the

02:17:53.300 bank but everything costs five times as much so you can't afford it anyways it doesn't matter

02:17:56.360 none of it matters and in the process the guys that wrote this system they're taking a cut every

02:18:01.840 time one of these transactions happens it doesn't go directly to you it goes through them and they

02:18:05.320 take a cut that's why they're advocating for it again like this is a weapon of tyranny like if

02:18:10.600 you're the tyrant this is the best possible system if you're at the top of this and you're

02:18:14.900 the one doing it you can become literally like you you become xerxes but i mean for a normal person

02:18:22.560 you don't want to be a citizen in a in a in a country where this is implemented and pretty much

02:18:29.000 all i think we did cover all of the frauds essentially um like it basically it's like

02:18:35.120 what what it's saying is in short everything you know about the monetary system it's actually the

02:18:41.380 opposite that uh we need survive we need savings to provide the funds for investment um in fact

02:18:48.860 investment causes he's kind of reversing the correlation between investment and savings

02:18:53.440 um saying that you know essentially like we already covered everything's kind of made up

02:18:59.200 nothing really matters so i think if we keep going through it's kind of going to be the same thing

02:19:04.120 every like deadly innocent fraud five the trade deficit is an unsustainable imbalance

02:19:09.340 that takes away jobs and output in reality what drives down unemployment is high taxes versus

02:19:15.220 economic spending i think we kind of covered that anyway uh in the other things let me just

02:19:20.560 get into quickly his policy suggestions i want to be fair on that front um his policy suggestions

02:19:27.780 near the back of the book pretty brief um he advocates for a tax holiday basically a month

02:19:35.480 where no need to pay any taxes um national service jobs uh he also advocates for universal health care

02:19:42.120 that should not be surprising um he says we currently have a strategic oil reserve this

02:19:49.100 should be extended to stores of other necessities for the purposes of emergency consumption which

02:19:54.100 you don't really have much right now uh the purpose should not be to support special interest

02:19:59.580 groups but to provide the consumer with real supplies of actual consumables during rainy days

02:20:05.000 during crises during covid whatever it might be um he also had a plan in place which i'm interested

02:20:12.980 to see where people let me let me hear you about this okay i think i know what you're going to say

02:20:17.360 of this but his plan is that a plan where someone if they default on their mortgage the government

02:20:24.220 buys it from them and rents it back to them at an affordable rate until they can over time buy it

02:20:30.080 back so it would prioritize homeowners even those who couldn't pay for the house i think i know what

02:20:36.440 you're going to say but what do you think about that there's i mean i don't want to have a 20

02:20:40.440 minute conversation about it but every single leg of that process is the ripest possible thing for

02:20:46.060 fraud so both fraud fraud from the government to juice house prices so that they can buy them all

02:20:51.740 up and rent them back out like black rock price fraud for the homeowner to get into a house that

02:20:56.480 they can't afford knowing full well that they'll be able to rent it rent it meanwhile a private

02:21:01.200 home a private landlord would never give them that deal but the government will which will destroy

02:21:05.640 i mean if i thought we're a pro landlord podcast we we stan landlords here that's that you know

02:21:13.800 what it is that's a great way to speed run government owning all private housing or there

02:21:18.480 no longer being private housing that's what would happen that is eventually yeah let me just say

02:21:22.740 this so when you before the show you think that warren mosler as uh as someone who's consumed so

02:21:31.120 much of his content do you think he has any sort of agenda that he's not being clear about or you

02:21:36.920 talked about how a lot of the democrats like him do you think they like him for the wrong reasons

02:21:40.700 the right reasons or you think he's i think i think the first thing for our guys to do is look

02:21:45.000 up a photo of warren mosler actually his physiognomy is that of a rat jew and he was a nobody hedge fund

02:21:52.660 manager like he made a lot of money he probably made 50 100 million dollars but for a hedge fund

02:21:56.120 manager he was not that successful he's not that right and the next thing i would say is go look

02:22:00.680 at his interviews because he's not that well spoken he stutters over himself he's a little

02:22:04.100 bit confused and he contradicts himself a lot and it's interesting that these books only came out in

02:22:08.900 the last 20-ish years and they only came out as he started to make friends in congress and in the

02:22:14.200 senate and this is to me it's not like it's a new story it's just classic he is a he was a weak

02:22:22.260 loser and a jew who was looking for a way to juice the system he made friends with some

02:22:29.100 unscrupulous and fraudulent people in politics let me just say he also he also lives in the

02:22:33.960 virgin islands i don't know if there you go he doesn't even live in the u.s anymore and then he

02:22:38.300 wrote a series of books, espousing a monetary theory, which was almost purpose built for the

02:22:45.620 rape of North America. It was purpose built for the destruction of the market economy,

02:22:51.160 which I find is a dirty word, whatever. It's the purpose built for the destruction of the economy

02:22:55.440 that we currently have. It's purpose built for the tyrant and for the rapist. Everything about

02:23:01.060 this is just the rules don't matter. I take what I want. You're too stupid to understand. Don't

02:23:06.860 argue with me that's the whole that's mmt in a nutshell and if you don't believe me go look at

02:23:13.440 the names and faces of people that are espousing this in congress holy shit he's 73 he does not

02:23:19.420 look 73 yeah he's probably drinking adrenochrome well i mean you know he's one of the worst this

02:23:25.360 guy like as a guy as a person he's one of the worst yeah he has done fill it from a philanthropic

02:23:30.540 standpoint he he talks and i've listened to his many of his interviews he talks at length about

02:23:36.400 the millions of dollars that he spent like having custom cars built with like designs that he did

02:23:41.720 even bill gates puts on a patina of like i help people in africa this guy is just pure vanity and

02:23:49.020 materialism he's like the he's the uval noah harari of economics it's funny that a guy in his

02:23:54.480 70s is getting cars made based on his shitty drawings yeah that's something a kid that's him

02:23:59.780 that's this fucking guy money doesn't matter dude what are you what are the odds that you've

02:24:05.100 designed the coolest car yeah very low like imagine us just like i'm gonna me drawing a house

02:24:12.860 it's gonna look like a seven-year-old drew a castle and guess what there's still fucking

02:24:17.500 velociraptors in the moat i think we should tie him to a front of like a a transcontinental

02:24:23.820 freight train and let him sit there for like three weeks as it delivers corn so not kill him just

02:24:30.840 take it like be well i mean he might he's probably he'll probably die but it would be a good experience

02:24:35.260 for him i mean that as you know there's a lot of train guys listen to the show too i mean that

02:24:40.700 sounds like a great what month year yeah if you're in a luxury viewing car yeah no tied to the front

02:24:48.400 and getting a front row oh okay no that's true that's true fair enough put him on the cow catcher

02:24:53.000 how can you be certain that the train really runs on time unless you're at the very front

02:24:57.120 yep that's true that's true all right this is this is actually what i was hoping for from this

02:25:02.640 because i didn't want to just belch out all this stuff because you've looked more into this like

02:25:08.720 you've been following this for years and years and years and i've heard him on a couple podcasts

02:25:12.660 not as much as you and um there's certain things that he had said that i like but i'm gonna i think

02:25:19.380 you're really gonna not like the next episode because we get really deep into infinite credit

02:25:25.400 but i still maintain like i me as a a landlord appreciator as a tyranny guy

02:25:33.240 one of these tyranny guys you hear about right and someone who just i would like i want all

02:25:40.840 of my sad white sociopath fellas to get infinite credit and if that makes me

02:25:47.920 pea-brained if that makes me big no no no not at all man not at all not at all that that's look

02:25:55.180 that's all i kind of want to get as a response from people because i think there's a lot of

02:25:59.060 people that are in that same boat and it's like hold on this sounds like the invention of the

02:26:03.480 atom bomb you know it's an economic atom bomb like on the one hand it causes great tragedy but

02:26:08.800 on the other hand we win the war so like look i'm not i just want to be honest about what it is

02:26:14.460 it is a destructive weapon it is i don't want people to like you wouldn't describe the atom

02:26:19.520 bomb as increasing productivity you would describe it as a rice cooker right it cooks rice so if you

02:26:25.660 want to describe this if you want to describe this as like the burger burner then yeah it's

02:26:30.500 the burger burner if that's your goal this is the best thing yeah serious what i get when i read

02:26:35.820 these books it's kind of electrifying in the sense that like it acknowledges that things are insane

02:26:43.060 it acknowledges that everything's made up something happened in the 70s you don't need to blame

02:26:48.880 nixon but nixon was president during the time decoupled from the the gold standard so every

02:26:54.140 all bets are off the the debt the national debt makes no sense nothing makes any sense so there

02:27:01.200 is this this idea buried in there where it's like let's just let's if it's nuts let's get nuts

02:27:07.700 yeah yeah let's just be let's just be fucking insane with credit this has been talked about

02:27:12.720 a lot lately like rhetorically the way that he writes and the way that he speaks even

02:27:16.220 is playing into this attitude of it's fucked you're not gonna get yours unless you fight for

02:27:21.680 it the rules don't matter it's time that we play by our own rules that's essentially where he's

02:27:25.820 going with it and again from if you're just talking about practice he's fucking absolutely

02:27:30.860 correct he's absolutely right but and and for a lot of guys maybe that's enough but i all i'm not

02:27:37.600 saying to not implement this i'm saying if i see somebody try to implement this on a white

02:27:41.920 population it's time for a little bit of violence but if i see this implemented on a global stage

02:27:46.760 like if we took power and we're going to implement it absolutely we should implement this in africa

02:27:51.000 absolutely let's do it he wants infinite credit for africa i want africans to have infinite access

02:27:58.960 to loans in their own currency i want to i want to watch them starve through their own stupidity

02:28:05.100 with infinite access to credit yeah this is true accelerationism yeah what's the line from um

02:28:12.360 nick land something like english is a language given by god to do apocalypse with

02:28:18.000 yes oh that's beautiful and i feel that that really runs through my neural cortex these days

02:28:26.020 alright this was very good I really like this

02:28:29.060 thank you for taking the time

02:28:30.040 in the next few episodes we're kind of going to keep

02:28:32.900 going down this road

02:28:34.460 then we're going to get into just some crazy

02:28:36.800 psychological stuff later on but anyway

02:28:38.860 this was great thank you for taking the time

02:28:40.780 no worries man I'll see you

02:28:42.200 bye

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