Blood Satellite - April 12, 2024


I Am Ontologically Evel Knievel [“rip Floyd Simpsons”]


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3 hours and 37 minutes

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183.54

Word count

40,006

Sentence count

518


Transcript

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00:00:00.000 blood satellite we're doing the thing where we have a pre-podcast and we burn everything out
00:00:12.020 early we can't stop yeah it's like when you're having sex and you come first and then you keep
00:00:17.220 trying to have sex i'm the winner you it rarely works yeah it's it's the reverse endurance test
00:00:25.860 you know races aren't as fun when you you find out who wins the race immediately and then they
00:00:34.200 have to run the race the guy who the guy who wins still has to get all the way to the end
00:00:43.720 well because he just starts tired but then you're sure everyone has fun you get that shit out of
00:00:49.960 the way yeah or at least everybody pretends to have fun you just you get it out of the way
00:00:55.100 oh man um you know i think i fumbled the ball recently because um did you get a good
00:01:05.020 view of that eclipse that occurred no it was really uh overcast where i was
00:01:11.300 cities large and small were plunged into darkness as the great north american eclipse
00:01:17.600 made its way across the united states and canada yeah i don't give a shit about eclipses
00:01:24.480 can i just say that openly are people gonna fucking crawl up in my ass and into my guts
00:01:30.660 and build a cabin no everyone's like getting like squawking at me saying it's once in a lifetime
00:01:37.160 thing correct me if i'm wrong we're in our 30s i'm pretty sure i've seen eclipses during the
00:01:42.860 day before like they're saying this is a once in a lifetime thing what yeah because it's a total
00:01:46.920 because it's a total eclipse so there's if you look at the map of an eclipse there's the umbra
00:01:50.980 and the penumbra and the umbra is the total shadow and the penumbra is the partial shadow
00:01:55.740 and it's like 99.9 percent of eclipses are the penumbra the huge outer shadow where the sun is
00:02:02.980 mostly almost mostly covered but this one where it was crossing through like with the path that
00:02:10.100 it crossed like by niagara that was actually a total eclipse okay right now this sounds like
00:02:15.840 someone explaining models of subaru to me this is fucking gay nonsense well it's actually really
00:02:23.140 complex uh subaru is named after the nine sisters constellation in japanese uh which are an
00:02:30.140 arrangement of stars and our son is a star and i'm sure i i was i was getting ready for a rug pull
00:02:36.520 because i'm like because this sounds interesting i'm like you know anytime someone starts a
00:02:41.480 of thought with you know in japan they i'm in you can upload a virus a cognitohazard straight
00:02:50.600 into my brain and i'll be right there with you by the way for people who can't tell judas is
00:02:56.000 once again sick sick as fuck where are you sick describe it it started in the sinuses and now
00:03:03.740 it's gone into my throat uh my youngest has a fever and she's shitting it's been like this
00:03:11.020 I mean, we mentioned this on the last part because my kids were already sick last week.
00:03:14.600 They're kind of at the peak of it, and now my wife and I are starting to get it.
00:03:19.120 Are your butt and penis hole in play?
00:03:21.820 Yeah.
00:03:22.320 No.
00:03:22.900 I mean, they're fine.
00:03:24.140 They're good.
00:03:24.800 They're in play.
00:03:25.480 Like, I use them every day.
00:03:28.540 Oh, every day?
00:03:30.140 You're using your dick every day?
00:03:31.920 Do you not piss at least once a day?
00:03:33.860 Not if I can help it.
00:03:34.920 i honestly i don't want to know what's going on down you're a level 10 piss avoider
00:03:43.180 you've maxed out on that skull tree i'm holding it in until it goes away
00:03:48.840 where does it go somewhere else i don't know it does i'm not a fucking ball sweat
00:03:56.420 ball sweat it comes out your pores comes out your eyes yep uh when you're married things
00:04:03.040 kind of transferred, you know, sympathetic
00:04:05.000 trauma,
00:04:07.120 sympathetic crying. Sympathetic piss?
00:04:08.560 Yeah, she takes all my piss.
00:04:10.920 If you hold it in long enough, your wife will piss
00:04:12.920 for you. She's pissing
00:04:14.960 every witch away.
00:04:19.580 So the Eclipse, everyone is
00:04:20.980 like, I didn't even really give a
00:04:23.100 look at it because I didn't get the glasses
00:04:24.860 either. You're supposed to get glasses.
00:04:27.100 I got sneezed.
00:04:29.880 I don't think I've ever sneezed
00:04:31.140 on the show before. There you go.
00:04:33.040 First time for everything.
00:04:35.460 Now, for the folks at home, you'll notice that Judas did not say bless you.
00:04:40.720 This is what I'm dealing with.
00:04:42.240 I never, I'm not, I'm not a polite person.
00:04:44.960 Okay, but you realize that this thing we got going, our thing, it's different than, like, anyone else who does it.
00:04:51.720 What, being buddies?
00:04:53.160 Yeah, you can say bless you.
00:04:54.700 I'm special.
00:04:56.600 My co-worker, my only co-worker, who you know, because he's crazy.
00:05:01.580 every time i sneeze he's like gesundheit do you know what gesundheit means i'm like you told me
00:05:08.520 the last hundred times dude you've been telling me for 15 years it means it means bless you
00:05:13.780 every time he's reading you the wikipedia page every time speaking of wikipedia i wanted to
00:05:19.500 correct myself because i said it's the nine sisters it's the seven sisters it's the pleiades
00:05:23.040 star cluster acting like the japanese know the difference between six and nine or seven or three
00:05:29.160 we got we had to teach them fuck off unstoppable oh speaking of this let me see if i can pull this
00:05:36.360 up i don't know where i'm going with this one but i came across a real schizo post that seems
00:05:42.980 tangentially related to this um just by i was in a chat i think i was in the americana chat
00:05:49.600 and i just anytime i see eight posts in a row essay length i'm bunkering down right nice so
00:05:57.980 I just want to, it sold me at the start.
00:06:00.680 I'm just going to read a little bit here.
00:06:02.760 It says, disclaimer, Flat Earth Bros, go ahead and tune this one out.
00:06:07.760 The Industrial Revolution and its consequences don't really have much to do with this.
00:06:12.000 Here we go.
00:06:12.640 The music video for Soundgarden's hit song, Black Hole Sun, is a prophecy of a coming natural apocalypse that repeats on a 12,000-year cycle, approximately,
00:06:23.140 and was known to the NSDAP
00:06:25.120 and is foretold on the 12K-year-old cave paintings.
00:06:31.000 So we're talking about magnetosphere shit.
00:06:33.900 We're talking Van Allen belts.
00:06:35.320 I'm skipping EMPs.
00:06:36.720 Nice.
00:06:37.120 Oh, I love this already.
00:06:38.460 He says,
00:06:38.940 in a lot of old religious art,
00:06:40.580 especially Christian art,
00:06:41.600 blue, red, and green play prominent roles,
00:06:44.520 more so than they typically would in things depicted.
00:06:48.440 That's not a way to phrase that.
00:06:49.800 The green in particular has come to be collectively
00:06:52.460 called the theme of the green man who represents the rebirth of nature after cataclysm i don't know
00:06:58.640 the source on that but sure in arthurian myth he was a knight hence the name green man i can't stop
00:07:04.760 thinking of it's always sunny in philadelphia charlie in his morph suit yeah is there another
00:07:11.840 green like that to me was the only green man i mean anybody who's ever worn a green morph suit
00:07:16.920 is the green man but yeah that's the best one is charlie i don't like they talk about like you
00:07:21.080 know like you've heard about the green man before never never know the green man guys who get so
00:07:25.900 deep into this esoteric lore shit and they just treat it like a normal meme you guys know the
00:07:30.440 green man right fucking green man am i right there's no other name than the green man and
00:07:35.420 here's it isn't always a man but it is always green well i don't know what does that mean
00:07:39.560 okay in the paintings of jesus it's often a briar vine he's holding or an abundance oh come on okay
00:07:47.340 Well, you can't look at a plan and say that's the green man.
00:07:50.480 That's ridiculous.
00:07:52.100 That's ridiculous.
00:07:53.840 This fucking guy.
00:07:56.040 Who wrote this?
00:07:57.640 An individual named Courier1488.
00:08:01.880 Oh, no.
00:08:03.200 Okay.
00:08:03.620 Now, every so often, the magnetic poles of the Earth move,
00:08:07.560 and when they do, the magnetosphere temporarily weakens a considerable amount.
00:08:12.260 This allows radiation and EMPs from the sun to interfere with things like
00:08:15.920 cell phone networks the internet power grids it also causes an increase in intense weather and
00:08:21.320 phenomena like earthquakes due to internal changes in the earth from the radiation of EMPs well we've
00:08:26.500 talked about this before um yes yes and no I'm sure I mean I don't know how yeah I mean that's
00:08:32.220 true this is where with all these conspiracy things you know a lot of time they're going to
00:08:35.720 just take a wikipedia entry on a real thing and then create their own interpretation so like yeah
00:08:41.380 I mean, sometimes the poles change and it weakens our field.
00:08:44.320 Fine.
00:08:44.940 And we talked about this when we talked about the legends of Atlantis.
00:08:48.860 We went into the sort of move, the move of magnetic north and the flipping of the poles and also a meter impact that kicked Earth off its axis and then created the seasons, as we know them.
00:09:00.540 Sure.
00:09:01.580 He says we're currently in a period of pole shift.
00:09:04.720 Ordinarily, I just make it would just make civilization difficult to maintain.
00:09:08.880 But here's the kicker.
00:09:09.660 Every 12,000 years or so, a massive EMP comes from the center of the galaxy, magnetizing clouds of dust in space and dragging them along as it goes.
00:09:19.620 Maybe.
00:09:20.440 And when these clouds hit a star, for example, our sun, it's basically like a three-week Coke and booze binge crammed into a few minutes.
00:09:28.800 I assume that means for the sun?
00:09:31.020 For people or animals?
00:09:31.980 Yeah.
00:09:32.380 I don't understand.
00:09:33.080 I don't know.
00:09:34.380 Yes to all.
00:09:35.660 All of the above.
00:09:36.160 It turns into a drastic increase in the frequency and directional ranges of CMEs.
00:09:42.040 What's a CME?
00:09:43.560 Coronal mass ejection.
00:09:44.880 That's when the sun pukes.
00:09:47.240 A CME coming out.
00:09:49.940 Because of the size of CMEs, like the sun, I forget how often, but like daily the sun does this where it shoots these waves into space.
00:09:58.220 But we're so small and so far away that it's extremely rare for one to come even close to hitting the Earth.
00:10:04.660 Yeah.
00:10:05.560 Now, during this time, the sky would appear red
00:10:08.480 and the air would be ignited with arcs of plasma.
00:10:11.580 Yes.
00:10:11.700 Basically lightning bolts.
00:10:13.700 Now, the cave painting part on the top left
00:10:16.320 depicted in this post is some kind of mathematical thing
00:10:19.900 that, if memory serves, is the plasma interaction
00:10:22.840 with oxygen in our atmosphere.
00:10:24.680 So he's basically showing a graph that's depicted
00:10:27.080 also in cave paintings as well.
00:10:29.900 So people in caves who didn't have a written language
00:10:33.300 knew how to use graphs.
00:10:34.820 yes
00:10:36.160 like the person who wrote this is stone cold
00:10:39.620 retarded
00:10:40.080 well hold on how does sound come in
00:10:43.620 he asks due to the radical
00:10:45.680 changes to the earth's surface that would happen
00:10:47.800 during the cataclysm the continents would be
00:10:49.760 totally different and probably nothing would survive
00:10:51.700 except maybe cave paintings by sheer
00:10:53.720 chance humanity has existed
00:10:55.880 in its current form for around
00:10:57.820 120,000 years which means
00:10:59.760 it's possible we've been through this like six times
00:11:01.880 or more and to
00:11:03.400 tbh to be honest for the folks at home the jews probably held us back and ruined shit for us
00:11:08.800 every time well that and the rooms are probably the bottom of the scene as for sound garden
00:11:17.660 we're talking about the band here sound garden
00:11:19.680 so that is within that song black hole sun which was big when i was good yeah i also get all of
00:11:45.160 my esoteric philosophy from like 90s pop hits and you know what why not why not why not something
00:11:52.100 you know i'm getting i'm getting an article published uh in tukey's mag coming up and i
00:11:59.200 kind of make that point because i was referencing uh e michael jones's uh logos rising he's talking
00:12:05.660 about how nietzsche took so much inspiration uh from wagner um the music and he just he found
00:12:13.040 that's so inspiring and illuminating that sort of worked its way into a philosophy and some people
00:12:18.900 look at that especially if they're ideologues and say well no it needs to be this more metaphysical
00:12:24.280 thing i'm like no why not why not take it from music why not take it from art why not take it
00:12:28.460 from something that ignites your passions and maybe building a philosophy for music is the
00:12:33.760 only fucking thing that makes sense because i was thinking back to um the book childhood's end
00:12:41.040 which i think we might have covered on the show by uh arthur c clark i think it was it was sort
00:12:46.620 of that alien race that comes to earth and bestows all our materialist desires peace on earth
00:12:53.060 post-scarcity everything but they've got their own agenda we just don't know it yet but we're
00:12:58.460 still trying to figure it out but the one thing he makes a note on they're not really evil or
00:13:02.600 anything but um he says the aliens don't understand music like it just doesn't make sense to them
00:13:08.080 and i just liked uh it's kind of buried in there it's not totally relevant it becomes relevant
00:13:13.380 later when you realize that they don't have souls um but yeah it was just this idea that music
00:13:18.320 you know maybe we some people think music is trivial or they think you know that's something
00:13:23.960 that serious people don't care about but i'm like well maybe that's the only thing that matters
00:13:29.080 maybe ideologies maybe all this you know secular humanist scientism that's bullshit music is
00:13:35.640 something that i think people who can appreciate music on a deeper level are in tune with maybe
00:13:41.580 something more relevant i'm not trying to go into like a spiritual direction but like there's i
00:13:46.120 think so and i think i think also the relationship between frequencies like the fact that the fact
00:13:52.520 that music interacts with our brain like we feel it as music right but what it is is it's harmonics
00:13:57.580 of different frequencies mathematically in the way they interact and it's actually essentially
00:14:02.260 on a mathematical level it's very similar to the way that we view art it's like light is different
00:14:08.020 frequencies which is colors and the way that they interact and harmonize with each other like for
00:14:12.640 example complementary colors it's kind of an interesting analog and i'm willing to bet it's
00:14:19.620 because my theory is it's because our brain works something like that there's got to be something to
00:14:24.920 it that we have a fondness for certain frequencies even that thing if you do what is that the uh the
00:14:31.300 deep fuck the gateway institute you heard of that that sounds familiar let me look they play there's
00:14:38.100 this cia shit where they play two different frequencies one into each ear and it's supposed
00:14:42.920 to harmonize the two lobes of your brain and open up new types of consciousness there's all this
00:14:47.620 like kooky shit about it but i mean it again it harkens back to the split brain experiment where
00:14:52.400 we have essentially two different lobes of our brain that operate independently and because they
00:14:57.100 operate independently they have two different frequencies but if you align the frequencies
00:15:00.620 they can kind of gel. I don't know. In 1945, the United States launched a scientific
00:15:07.860 intelligence initiative titled Operation Alsos. The objective was to recover intelligence on
00:15:15.040 scientific and militaristic projects conducted under the Third Reich. What they found was
00:15:21.100 something much stranger. A cache of documents related to the Annanerb, which was a scientific
00:15:28.140 Academy and think tank, indicated a division that was dedicated to the study of occult sciences.
00:15:35.740 In fact, extensive research was being conducted on extrasensory perception,
00:15:41.420 spirit channeling, divination, and other forms of anomalous phenomena.
00:15:47.580 The United States military is always looking for new ways to create super soldiers.
00:15:52.060 They use performance enhancing and mind-altering drugs. They're currently experimenting with
00:15:56.700 brain implant technology they've even explored genetic engineering to try and breed the perfect
00:16:02.140 soldier but those are nothing compared to what happened in 1983 when lieutenant colonel wayne
00:16:07.340 mcdonald submitted a very unusual and detailed report to us army intelligence it was called
00:16:13.180 analysis and assessment of gateway process this is a step-by-step guide on how to achieve an
00:16:18.940 out-of-body experience for the purpose of intelligence gathering but colonel mcdonald's
00:16:23.420 report went much further than that an advanced gateway participant cannot just project their
00:16:28.180 consciousness to a different place they could pull their consciousness completely out of this
00:16:32.540 reality they could travel anywhere in the universe and at any point in time so i'm looking at right
00:16:39.060 now i'm looking at the gateway institute i will say that your ocd healing process starts now and
00:16:45.220 it's a picture of a white woman in a field which i thought were reserved for you know hyperborean
00:16:51.720 edits but yeah there's everybody that i've seen talk about it seriously has been a very unreliable
00:16:59.480 kooky person but all of that aside when i just read the documentation like all right there is
00:17:04.740 something to this because it was funded by the federal government and the cia so there's something
00:17:10.180 i will say i'm looking at the real stories which i have no doubt are true but it's all women
00:17:15.460 woman alert and it's also all white women which begs the question do non-white women know about
00:17:22.480 this stuff because this is interesting stuff but you wouldn't hear like a black or indian person
00:17:27.480 talk about like well but you know it's all the new age like astral projection out of body experience
00:17:32.980 you know ways of consciousness touching to talking to machine elves in the nth dimension and
00:17:38.120 yeah there's only white hippies right i'm not mistaken pretty sure today anyways yeah well
00:17:45.240 Well, even back in time, at the peak of hippies, were there black hippies?
00:17:49.100 I want to say no, or it was at like 1%.
00:17:53.220 I mean, I feel like everybody, it was kind of the dominant culture to some extent before, right?
00:17:58.100 So there must have been hippies of every race in the mid to late 60s.
00:18:03.520 And that's like saying hippie, they're all hippies in the same way that in like 1998, everybody's punk rock.
00:18:09.280 It's like, no, you just have ripped jeans.
00:18:10.780 I think that during the hippie age
00:18:13.200 the black people were all wearing leather jackets
00:18:15.460 and big sunglasses and afros
00:18:17.260 I think they were all black panthers
00:18:18.660 that's my memory of it
00:18:19.820 maybe that's why I remember the 60s
00:18:22.720 how do you and I remember the 60s very differently
00:18:25.240 that's interesting
00:18:26.020 maybe it's because both of us
00:18:29.360 would be born for another 20 years
00:18:30.780 it's white people shit
00:18:33.320 just the other day I went to
00:18:35.360 a Queens of the Stone Age concert
00:18:37.180 you did I know
00:18:38.680 and it was a lovely show not the most engaging they're just a very meat and potatoes live band
00:18:46.120 but i love queens of the stone age um every so often like i don't listen to queens of the stone
00:18:51.700 age consistently they're not always on but i'll go back to them every few months and go through
00:18:57.240 their albums and i remember this is one of the greatest bands of all time there's just something
00:19:02.880 so unique and good and if you go through their hits there's such a roller coaster of like
00:19:08.480 themes and sounds for just you know guitar and a little bit of keyboard yeah absolutely yeah
00:19:15.340 they're they are good they're phenomenal but again i'm there and i see like one black guy
00:19:21.100 and i'm looking at him like you you shouldn't be here i'm not saying that in a threatening way i'm
00:19:27.720 like it doesn't make sense that you're here this this is queens of stone age is perfect white guy
00:19:32.240 music it's like a cocktail of like rock but it's also weird and psychedelic in a sense but it's
00:19:40.120 all like the newest album is called in times new roman which might be one of the all-time greatest
00:19:48.460 obvious once you hear it album titles yeah like in times you're like like the double
00:19:54.180 i'm like god damn it that's so fucking good and then the title of the tour is the end is nero
00:20:01.320 i like this is a lot of white guy shit we're doing this is a rome thing yeah from a psychedelic
00:20:09.840 rock band who has songs like mosquito song can you imagine being a white rock star and just
00:20:15.980 spending all day thinking about rome and how to work rome into your album cover yeah i can
00:20:21.320 that's the thing i could do that this whole audience can figure like i'm doing that right
00:20:26.720 i can have a guitar and like think about rome um but yeah it was a great show um but yeah just
00:20:35.160 a sea of like white guys dressed almost identical to me and a lot of old way older people than you
00:20:41.980 might imagine too um but yeah this is white guy it's you know what it is it's a band that a lot
00:20:47.700 of couples go to there you go there's a lot of bad like hip-hop single people a lot of single
00:20:54.220 people go there but like cool rock bands it's like guys and their wives go to it i think it
00:21:00.040 also is an age thing like queens of the stone age is great but they're like halfway between
00:21:05.500 new music and like led zeppelin i mean they they were they were producing in like the
00:21:12.700 80s i want to say like they came out in 96 in 96 okay i don't see i don't know i felt like just
00:21:19.760 from the style that they were a little bit older than that but regardless they're all great like
00:21:23.860 They all look like they're in their 50s, I think.
00:21:26.540 Well, even then, if they were in their 20s or 30s in 96,
00:21:29.320 yeah, they're probably pushing 60 now.
00:21:32.180 So it's an old band.
00:21:34.660 A 96, that's not that long ago.
00:21:36.520 That was 30 years ago.
00:21:38.980 Yeah.
00:21:40.640 We're old as shit.
00:21:41.680 What the fuck are we doing?
00:21:44.440 What have we done?
00:21:46.560 so i have a whole stack of things i wanted to talk about let's do a sequence and i need you
00:21:57.520 to weigh in on this okay because i'm somewhat conflicted about it and it's a contentious topic
00:22:04.000 and i want to you know it's very funny when we say things like i don't want to deal in drama
00:22:10.640 i don't want to shit talk and we spend a whole fucking live stream shitting on lauren southern
00:22:16.840 yes um there's developments on that by the way she is enraged me today i'm not going to get into
00:22:22.040 that but just know that she's been acting out of pocket and i've seen it but that there's there's
00:22:29.820 some drama that occurred in the space and it's not a drama thing because there's something that
00:22:33.740 i think can be extracted from this there is a timeless perennial issue that can be extracted
00:22:40.940 from what i'm about to talk about and it is relevant it's not just people getting mad at
00:22:44.740 each other on twitter um i think it's going to be extremely relevant going forward as we
00:22:50.320 we discuss this on the real secret coffee hours sister show that we have on our gum road and our
00:22:56.220 patreon talk a bit more about uh the accelerate the tech accelerationist movement all the figures
00:23:03.480 in there and their interests these would be the peter teals as well a lot of uh big names who are
00:23:09.720 you know into transhumanism into propelling technology as far as possible and as fast as
00:23:16.400 possible um i read uh ray kurzweil recently uh age of spiritual machines we're not going to cover
00:23:22.280 that today but in the future but same sort of thing like technology will solve technology's
00:23:27.140 problems and if you don't believe that you're just a dumb pessimist that's interesting because
00:23:31.560 i read a lot of ray curls while when i was a teenager before i understood the the jq and then
00:23:37.420 i still have a lot of respect for him as an intellectual but man so much of what he does
00:23:41.520 it's like pure jewish neuroticism and the way that he views the world so it's but i mean look
00:23:47.600 a lot of these a lot of these guys are talking about like the tech accelerationist guys are
00:23:51.540 like they're they're almost anti-human and i they don't think they even realize that they are they
00:23:57.040 think they're pro-human but like they're literally the destroyers of the earth and they think that
00:24:01.780 they're the saviors well and this is what nick land talks about when he look he sees the same
00:24:07.220 future but he sees it very pessimistically however he also sees it as inevitable uh but he's trying
00:24:13.200 to be like how how can we deal with this we're not excited he calls it like everything in the future
00:24:18.840 nothing was it nothing human survives in the future yeah that's his line um anyway but that's
00:24:23.820 that's a space that's a relevant space because these people are flirting with the dissident
00:24:29.140 right in a few different ways maybe i'll set this up by saying no there's a lot of people i've heard
00:24:34.340 like on the left or in the post left who have criticized the right because they believe that
00:24:39.800 the right hogs all the money you know we hog all the billionaires in the funding um which is yeah
00:24:46.520 but they think it is or they're viewing the landscape but i think they actually do
00:24:51.560 see at least a bit more interest in the stuff we're talking about i mean look at how
00:24:56.060 a lot of our ideas from this space have propagated in the mainstream what's the last leftist idea
00:25:01.400 that's propagated in the mainstream it's all tired it's all hammering away at the same like
00:25:06.780 communist nonsense the people not only do some most people hate it they're just tired of it
00:25:11.600 because it's nothing interesting anyway there is some interest in our space because at least
00:25:16.960 we're talking about some not only real truths, but also heterodox concepts and trying to chart
00:25:25.120 a path towards... Most leftists have no interest in tech. Most leftists, they care about it insofar
00:25:31.100 as they can use it for their weird communities, but they're not really forecasting 100 years in
00:25:35.720 the future. They just don't want to do it. Anyway, that's the space I was looking at. I'm going to
00:25:40.780 read an article here. It's a very funny article, but it's dealing with the people that I'm talking
00:25:46.040 about and this will tee up some other stuff but anyway i'm looking at a site called hellgate
00:25:51.140 hellgate nyc.com uh this is by a woman named carolyn haskins very much an i can fix her type
00:26:00.580 of girl um freelance reporter damn that means you know freelance reporter is she's biding her time
00:26:08.340 until literally anything shows up wayward wandering lady with a pixie cut okay yeah okay
00:26:15.600 But she wrote an article. Here's the title. Fasci Posturing and Rich Kid Juvenalia. That's Praxis Magazine. It's about this magazine called Praxis Magazine. The group that wants to create an autonomous nation in the Mediterranean has made a magazine. And this is true. This is a group called Praxis. They want to create a breakaway society in the Mediterranean, I think somewhere around Haiti.
00:26:40.620 but um you know what i'll just let her describe because i actually think her assessment isn't
00:26:45.440 that far off um she was on wednesday night the east village restaurant ella fun terrible name
00:26:51.320 was converted into a teaming club for the launch of praxis magazine a free 200 page volume created
00:26:58.080 by the content the company that an aspiring nation known as praxis praxis co-founded by
00:27:04.720 two white guys you're gonna get a lot of that in this article in their mid-20s is best known for
00:27:09.800 raising more than $19 million in the hopes of creating an autonomous high-tech nation
00:27:14.920 somewhere in the Mediterranean. And I actually, I do agree with her next statement. It sounds kind
00:27:20.600 of catty, but it's like such a task would take billions of dollars and many years of planning
00:27:24.560 and construction, which is true because I believe it was-
00:27:27.720 Yeah, that was my immediate reaction too. Like two guys in a New York bar, I don't care what race
00:27:32.320 they are or what gender they are. You're in New York and $19 million in New York is going to be
00:27:37.960 spent by week three on a car so and and hookers like this is bullshit this is it sounds like a
00:27:44.000 scam immediately it well it does sound that like that is what they are spending the money on
00:27:48.720 in which case i mean who knew who could have guessed good for them i love guys who raise
00:27:55.620 money for something insane and spend it on something retarded
00:27:59.460 i want everybody else to do that so they keep losing so i can finally win
00:28:05.500 but wouldn't you love to lose and be a millionaire in my future even when we lose we get lots of
00:28:14.880 money all right so to be what a beautiful dream such a tat and remember this is what akon did
00:28:20.060 in africa or tried to and he made a whole pitch deck yeah and he lost everything and he's on the
00:28:26.060 run now and he started with like 200 million dollars and everyone's like you you asshole
00:28:30.560 He started with 200 and he went to a place where it actually should have been one of the easiest places on earth to do because resources and labor are dirt cheap and you make the law with money.
00:28:43.680 And he still couldn't fucking do it.
00:28:45.120 And he had 10 times more.
00:28:46.540 So like, is it just because he was black?
00:28:49.160 I don't know.
00:28:49.720 Maybe.
00:28:49.860 Here's a $19 million. If you're going from the outside in, if you're going from America to this other nation to build something, $19 million all in might build one good house. Once you're talking about the land, bringing the people in, all said and done, $19 million, one house.
00:29:07.900 It depends. It depends how you do it. Like, I think I like I know people who've gone to Panama, bought an island and built multiple houses on the island for a cash equivalent of like $100,000. But you do that with a large group of able bodied people who are willing to live there and struggle through it, which, again, the point being, these are two guys from New York who probably are not going to want to get their shoes dirty.
00:29:32.200 They're going to be looking to hire people and they're going to make all kinds of beginner mistakes about trying to bring in outside contractors and et cetera.
00:29:38.100 So there's no way at all.
00:29:39.960 I mean, what's their background?
00:29:41.320 Let me guess.
00:29:41.800 They're tech guys or finance guys.
00:29:43.380 Do they know anything about statecraft, let alone construction or networking?
00:29:48.200 I mean, like a physical networking.
00:29:49.800 Are they maybe there?
00:29:50.740 Maybe then.
00:29:51.220 I don't know.
00:29:51.760 It's I don't know.
00:29:53.420 Sorry.
00:29:53.760 Let me I'm not going to interrupt anymore.
00:29:55.200 I just hate this.
00:29:55.960 I hate it so much.
00:29:56.960 That was my thing. Like, no matter how much you hate this woman, you do leave the article understanding that like, well, unless unless you got some connections I'm not seeing.
00:30:07.200 So she says, in the meantime, the company has spent its time and resources throwing parties and cultivating a social network.
00:30:13.060 It quickly became a known hotbed for far right politics.
00:30:17.140 um here we go practice employees have described co-founder dryden brown as usually uh unusually
00:30:25.320 interested in theology nazi cultism libertarianism and proto-fascism according to mother jones
00:30:31.460 because like i hope all that shit's true because he sounds like your average paywall subscriber
00:30:35.960 uh blood satellite but also mother jones like that's that's not a real thing mother jones
00:30:41.600 hold they still exist i thought they fucking closed i guess i thought they sold the title
00:30:47.320 like mother jones was owned by uh fuck that other the big ladies one that with all the
00:30:53.600 the gay board they they sold them all off to like a chinese company so like it's the website's still
00:30:59.500 up but here's like i was gonna say they sold to a chinese baby and i wasn't that far off
00:31:04.040 but uh so naturally the launch party include the types of people who can overlook stuff like this
00:31:13.660 the patrons are overwhelmingly overwhelmingly white mostly male and often employees for a vc
00:31:20.360 firm there were more women than i expected and all of them were beautiful a few mentioned being
00:31:25.040 personally invited by brown sometimes via instagram dm that's how every party is staffed
00:31:30.200 You think women go to a political event?
00:31:32.140 No, they go to an event
00:31:33.160 because some guy invented them
00:31:34.720 and he's got a nice watch.
00:31:36.380 Yeah.
00:31:38.080 Here's a great one.
00:31:39.320 I love this exchange,
00:31:40.680 just on its own.
00:31:41.440 I screen cap this
00:31:42.420 and put this on Twitter.
00:31:44.120 I approached three white guys
00:31:46.020 who appeared to be in their late 20s.
00:31:47.820 They said their first names,
00:31:49.300 which I immediately forgot.
00:31:50.800 Very woman moment.
00:31:54.220 Woman moment.
00:31:55.760 A few minutes later,
00:31:56.540 they all confessed to giving me false names.
00:31:58.800 dudes rock moment a friend told me about this party they said but declined to say who
00:32:04.820 um all three of them said they vehemently oppose the mission of praxis like it sounds even in her
00:32:11.140 writing like they're fucking with her but okay a guy with curly hair and glasses who said he has
00:32:16.160 a job making vc people money probably true said it was because of praxis's right-wing ideology
00:32:23.700 that's the reason that he doesn't like them his two friends felt similarly now here's the exchange
00:32:27.840 i love i actually used to be right wing the guy said oh what kind of right wing i asked fascist
00:32:33.820 he said sorry did you say fascist i asked yeah he said um i wasn't sure if he was being serious
00:32:40.640 looking at his friends i had a sense they'd heard some version of this conversation before
00:32:44.540 it all started in 2020 as we all know covid is bullshit and the vaccine was bullshit wait wait
00:32:50.020 i said still unsure if he was messing with me did you say the vaccine is bullshit are you vaccinated
00:32:55.100 his friends visibly uncomfortable tried to change the subject visibly uncomfortable at you probably
00:33:01.320 rolling their eyes at this bitch who just waddled up like are you what are you what are you supposed
00:33:07.860 to be like imagine the dumb shit that cascaded out of her cunt mouth anyway i asked them what he
00:33:15.420 what led him to leave the right the right wing is stupid he said it's a culture of stupidity
00:33:20.960 he ranted about the sincerity for a while
00:33:23.160 so you said you're on the left
00:33:25.220 now I asked him what kind of left wing
00:33:27.160 are you fascist he said laughing
00:33:29.040 this is a great exchange of these guys fucking
00:33:34.940 with this moron girl
00:33:36.380 it sounds
00:33:40.660 like this would be an annoying crowd
00:33:43.020 to me I don't want to just start
00:33:44.920 burning British preemptively
00:33:46.620 it says nostalgic
00:33:49.040 promotion of western culture is a known dog whistle for a branch of far white politics
00:33:53.560 defined by bigotry former praxis employees told mother jones in 2023 that when they were hired
00:33:59.660 they got book recommendations that included bronze age mindset by the far right influencer
00:34:04.800 who goes by bronze age pervert um walberg one of the guys she's talking to spoke reverently of two
00:34:11.560 particular pages in praxis magazine one page shows the invitation to a 1865 opera performance
00:34:18.740 in germany and the other has a black and white photo of the performers like this already sounds
00:34:24.340 like an annoying magazine i would later learn that these pages are directly followed by a
00:34:28.440 two-page spread of anime girls with enormous racks all captioned with platitudes like
00:34:33.000 your lifely your life is only as important as you make it like we're talking like meme shit from
00:34:39.060 five seven years ago just here's schizo things schizo things look it's it's a black sun with
00:34:46.380 an emoji look it's it's fucking it's hitler upside down whoa and he's he's smoking a cigarette
00:34:51.880 his sunglasses it's just this shit right damn son where'd you find there's a memorial page for
00:34:59.680 ted kaczynski and a petition to grant clemency to ross ulbricht the creator of silk road
00:35:04.440 there's photos from praxis parties one including dash and necrosova co-host of red scare there's a
00:35:11.980 photo of four young women smiling with the caption 15 years ago these girls would have been following
00:35:17.380 julian casablancas and around on tour instead they were born too late and have to pretend to
00:35:21.840 care about things like ai in crypto in order to sleep around probably the only salient point made
00:35:27.200 so far these are broken up by archival photos and posters especially from the 90s and 2000
00:35:33.180 and old neoclassical paintings i'm just i'm looking through this and it's just like oh here's
00:35:37.760 an article about how fluoride is bad it's just everything smashed together you know
00:35:44.060 the magazine seems designed to bombard the reader with images and narratives of impending violence
00:35:50.300 and doom conveniently readers can join praxis and escape all that there's praxis stickers and pages
00:35:55.980 where you can sign a residency grant to the eternal city of praxis um anyway so that's pretty
00:36:03.320 much the article you know she's very she's documenting a party where she wasn't welcome at
00:36:09.000 and she's getting trolled and fucked with by people fair enough but i did the jewish guys
00:36:13.980 she was interesting or interviewing weren't uh weren't invited there either though or they were
00:36:18.700 invited but they didn't want to be there like you the only guys that you interviewed were guys that
00:36:22.200 actually hate it but and but i'm also like reading between the lines and looking into this
00:36:26.540 on its own and like i don't really like this much either oh no i also dislike it but that doesn't
00:36:31.920 that doesn't make me like her more
00:36:33.540 just because she's right
00:36:34.840 I like that this woman was made to feel
00:36:38.120 uncomfortable at a party which is probably
00:36:39.840 why she was invited there there is a trend
00:36:41.840 in this space when you have a party
00:36:43.640 is to like let a fucking
00:36:45.680 shit lib or feminist or whatever journalist
00:36:48.040 did just to kind of bully them when they're there
00:36:49.900 you know hey nothing
00:36:51.900 wrong with that you know
00:36:53.520 I am all for hosting
00:36:56.000 a giant party to bully one
00:36:57.940 person I'm not saying
00:36:59.860 that's what this was but I would do that I would
00:37:01.740 invite 50 people i'd invent a play i would spend a month writing a play and then it would just
00:37:07.620 be a a complex you know i think you should leave style sketch where i'm like i'm gonna make you
00:37:13.380 feel uncomfortable for as long as you'll let me new characters and actors start emerging emerging
00:37:18.800 from the from the wall it ends with a uh what do you the the flash mob everybody comes in and
00:37:25.920 strikes a pose just the worst time the the worst evening imaginable even for us i don't want to do
00:37:34.640 this no it sounds terrible i haven't seen my kid in two and a half months my wife is hypothetical
00:37:41.060 at this point um but yeah like i think that is a snapshot i saw that article it gives you a snapshot
00:37:48.640 of a scene the snapshot of the scene is a bunch of sort of right wing distant right wing
00:37:55.840 adjacent young people people who like to go to parties people who like to host parties uh and
00:38:01.820 i've heard this said many times before beautiful women are there you got hot bitches coming in
00:38:06.520 which is important because historically a lot of our events tend to be with the same brand of white
00:38:12.600 guy right plus a few short ones thrown in but oh here's here's the the social capital of a hoe
00:38:21.100 i'm not even disparaging that that's interesting but that's a different space that's a new type
00:38:25.820 of space i don't hate that space and i kind of want to set this up also by saying that
00:38:30.060 i think we mentioned on a previous episode that this is kind of what winning looks like
00:38:35.160 we're over here in our space it's a weirder space it's a danker space but as our ideas
00:38:40.500 gain social capital you're going to see all kinds of more mainstream adjacent people adopt them
00:38:46.040 and they got their own way of doing it okay maybe we're not even invited those parties
00:38:50.680 probably not do i hate that those parties exist no what it's gonna happen what i am concerned
00:38:57.660 about and i don't want to just keep you know beating this dead horse or anything but like
00:39:01.740 what i am concerned about is i always think about something you had said because you said many things
00:39:09.140 in the many many years we've known each other that really anchor me and stick with me and one
00:39:13.860 thing that you said recently within the past couple years is that you know you're more about
00:39:18.960 first principles and i say that all the time what are your first principles and that that goes beyond
00:39:24.500 ideology that goes beyond values or political allegiances even like what what are the inarguable
00:39:31.040 main points that kind of anchor you because if you don't have that what the fuck are you you're
00:39:36.080 just floating around from scene to scene or ideology to ology and you see these people who
00:39:40.380 do this what are the the bedrock points that you can't move on and some people that's abortion
00:39:52.460 some people that's transgender issues some people like there's lots of things and i know you've got
00:39:57.440 some and i bet people listening can list a few if you don't you should come up with them
00:40:02.300 and what i'm noticing and this will lead to the next thing it's that um i'm finding that we were
00:40:10.000 always very excited about our ideas going into other spaces maybe spaces that wouldn't even want
00:40:15.460 to have us and when finding is that our ideas are being absorbed by other first principles that the
00:40:23.400 sort of the the source code of these scenes is changing our ideas which we should have expected
00:40:29.400 to happen yeah i mean i think the the thing that and look i'm guilty of this everybody's guilty of
00:40:34.860 some of the time that you might read a book or you follow a show or something and you pick up
00:40:42.440 some idea that seems novel and it seems like it works like it's an like it's a new item it's a
00:40:47.560 new product that you're adopting and then that becomes your thing until somebody swats you down
00:40:54.000 and then you're you spend all that time with it and it's kind of stupid it doesn't actually make
00:40:57.300 sense yeah if you have first principles you kind of get to a point where you can just ignore a lot
00:41:02.820 of other stuff and you how you can build a network of first principles where those first principles
00:41:07.300 kind of um they work together like there's libertarian first principles and there's right
00:41:11.740 wing first principles and there's communist first principles but like you can't be like for example
00:41:15.940 you can't call yourself a communist but be like you know elon's top iphone user but there seems
00:41:21.580 to be a million girls like that right so there's obviously somebody doesn't understand the concept
00:41:25.940 of principles so and i might that's long-winded but the reason the principles are important
00:41:31.080 is so that it's a guiding idea
00:41:34.900 so that when you are experiencing something new,
00:41:37.580 you can be like me and just say,
00:41:39.020 oh, I hate that.
00:41:40.240 I don't have to even think about that.
00:41:42.660 It's immediately repulsive to me
00:41:44.500 and I'm going to move on with my life.
00:41:46.200 Yeah, because an ideology
00:41:47.600 and a political allegiance
00:41:49.260 can often be a fandom,
00:41:51.980 but communism would be a good example
00:41:54.420 because a lot of communists
00:41:56.860 will have different first principles
00:41:58.560 and that's where they get into trouble.
00:42:01.080 Because for some people, their communist first principle would be that rich people shouldn't exist, period.
00:42:08.900 And if you're rich, it's ill-gotten gains and that you should probably die.
00:42:13.520 And then some people, their first principle is capital itself shouldn't exist.
00:42:18.240 And some people think that rich people are fine, but it just needs to be redistributed, whereas others see them as like a villain.
00:42:23.480 so it's like what is your foundational belief about the nature of capital or even this group
00:42:30.860 specifically and some people comments don't even really give a shit that much about capital anymore
00:42:35.360 it's about patriarchy and stuff and within feminism there's that but you can kind of
00:42:39.720 reveal the first principles upon inquiry but it like those are the things that people will
00:42:45.880 that will really drive them that's why they're there um and so this leads me to the next thing
00:42:53.080 i noticed and we're talking about this sort of scene still the scene where like the cool people
00:42:58.860 the rich people who are connected to silicon valley to venture capital but you've got you
00:43:04.300 know these are also the people who would be into like the peter teals of the world would be into
00:43:10.420 this about talking about jews as well now too and one example he gave of dasha necrosova she is a
00:43:16.060 host of the show called red scare and red scare is a very interesting show because i think they're
00:43:21.420 they're emblematic of what i'm talking about because red scare when they started two girls
00:43:26.140 anna and dasha they were sort of progressive socialists socialists for sure they would
00:43:33.780 probably debate whether or not they're progressives i think they were i remember the old
00:43:36.800 fucking episodes over time they've had their show for quite some time they've shifted anna
00:43:42.740 you know got married and now you know they their principles have changed they got into bronze age
00:43:48.600 pervert they got into the vitalism sphere they hype that up all the time flash forward to now
00:43:54.080 i listened to a clip of them just a couple days ago and they were very frankly and very
00:43:59.800 matter-of-factly discussing what jews do to deserve the hatred of them yeah they're having
00:44:07.200 a conversation about yeah like jews don't admit that they do anything wrong and that's the problem
00:44:11.300 with that but you know i mean like you would have never heard this years ago they've come a long way
00:44:15.660 so you're seeing a lot of these people similarly do that sorry continue the jews thing is so funny
00:44:20.740 because it's like it's kind of like why when somebody somebody's gonna tell you why you
00:44:27.760 shouldn't buy a used car and like i'm gonna give you a reason and it's a good reason and it's true
00:44:32.820 but there's a million reasons and then two guys that aren't really they're talking past each other
00:44:36.840 are going to argue with each other about which reason is right but they're both right and the
00:44:40.940 jews thing is funny because they're it's not a first principles issue you could from a hundred
00:44:47.480 different angles explain why the jews are the enemy of mankind you could explain it from
00:44:54.360 communist or capitalist or left-wing or right-wing first principles whatever first principles you
00:44:59.400 hold you can find a way where the jews are violators of those principles and that isn't
00:45:04.420 like a logical trick it's just because they're the jews that's that's why we hate them they do
00:45:10.000 that shit so if they would stop we wouldn't hate them so much so um it is funny though because like
00:45:15.320 if you think for example like from a communist first principle where everything is supposed to
00:45:19.420 be equally shared and you know from each according to his ability to each according to his need the
00:45:23.940 jew is the antithesis of that the jews are constantly scheming and they're greeting and
00:45:28.680 they're taking more than they produce and they're never where have you ever seen a jew work a field
00:45:33.560 have you ever seen a jew plow a uh fucking uh a row of turnips no and never they don't work
00:45:41.120 so like from a communist standpoint you should actually hate that you should hate the jews
00:45:46.440 so it's not even a first principles thing it's not inconceivable that a lot of left-wing
00:45:51.680 progressives like what do we see right now the left-wing progressives who are all pro hamas
00:45:56.760 their principle is like save the outsider save the forerunner blessed is the brown man
00:46:02.820 they all hate the jews because the jews the israelis are bombing hamas so it's yeah um
00:46:09.780 that's a good point so i'm just going to move on very quickly because i want to get to the next
00:46:13.440 part um this stars a man that we've had on the show recently named disgraced propagandist he
00:46:20.580 was on our show we interviewed him i wanted his show the carousel he got in trouble on twitter
00:46:26.420 recently he got into it with this group of people this group that is very popular with women you
00:46:34.420 know this sort of sphere it's probably got got the red scares you've got there's a few other
00:46:39.820 connections there there's this one woman named dumb bitch capital llc like there's a lot of
00:46:45.160 like twitter personalities for people who are kind of confused this is almost all twitter people so
00:46:49.600 if you're not on twitter or x you might not know any of this shit uh i due to the demands of this
00:46:55.960 show i must be on twitter so i'm making it everyone else's problem but disgraceful propagandist got
00:47:07.780 in trouble because he had a tweet where he was there's this individual named pariah the doll
00:47:12.700 we've discussed on the show a transgender individual always looking damp always looking
00:47:17.780 like they just crawled out of some some wet grass you know he got into a fight cut said you're a man
00:47:25.440 told a tranny that they're a man
00:47:27.720 in front of God and everything.
00:47:28.700 Oh, you can't do that.
00:47:29.980 And all these other women
00:47:31.660 started jumping down the throat
00:47:32.900 saying, you're fat,
00:47:34.560 your podcast sucks.
00:47:36.280 You know, a lot of girls type things.
00:47:38.420 And basically he got into a war
00:47:40.360 with e-girls who were jumping in
00:47:41.900 to defend this tranny.
00:47:43.040 And these girls were sort of
00:47:44.200 associated with our side,
00:47:46.040 associated with this scene, right?
00:47:49.200 And there's a couple of just rants
00:47:51.580 I want to get to
00:47:52.060 because it summarizes my point,
00:47:54.140 my feelings recently
00:47:55.020 because i've had these ideas brewing in me and i didn't want to burn bridges i don't want to just
00:48:00.980 start tossing javelins you know because this is an interesting space that the idea that that finance
00:48:08.300 is interfacing with our side is interesting like that is good i like that the issue is that they're
00:48:15.860 interfacing with our ideas with this intermediary the intermediary is this scene the intermediary
00:48:21.180 is this sort of art scene, New York,
00:48:23.680 not nightclub, but party
00:48:25.340 scene, where our ideas
00:48:27.320 are there, but we're not the ones really propagating
00:48:29.600 them. They're being propagated by these
00:48:31.380 individuals, these partiers,
00:48:33.440 these scenesters.
00:48:35.020 And my fear is that their
00:48:37.180 first principles are getting in the way.
00:48:39.960 The e-girls' first principles,
00:48:41.400 which is just sort of esoteric
00:48:43.280 girlbossery.
00:48:45.900 Esoteric girlbossery.
00:48:47.180 Fix that in your mind. That's what they really believe in.
00:48:49.540 Like Rad FemHitler.
00:48:50.580 like rad femme hitler god damn like who just appeared on alex kashuta's show by the way
00:48:56.260 people are giving this freak of fucking nature a platform okay sure yeah yep yep yippers okay
00:49:03.120 somebody should rape her and see who wins and see who wins let's see one at a time everyone
00:49:09.280 see who wins what what's what's the score what do we measure what are we at boys what what what's
00:49:17.180 what's the number where's the numbers on the board what am i looking at here it's just a stock
00:49:22.480 ticker but it's basically the e-girls and the and the the first principle of most these women
00:49:29.020 is like esoteric girl boss because there's this one guy in a chat i just know him as k his name
00:49:34.880 is k um we were talking about uh women in the right wing the the c you know the dissident right
00:49:41.920 and i said that the rule from time immemorial has been for guys to to make sense the world
00:49:49.500 it's that every single woman is a dumb whore except the one i found yeah and that's gotten
00:49:56.360 us pretty far i think that's a healthy way of looking at everyone fucking sucks except my wife
00:50:00.200 she's amazing she's special and then if every guy is married then and every woman's married off then
00:50:05.880 that's a perfect balance that's how you get into a society where you can be in a room with 50 men
00:50:11.100 and 50 women and everybody's shaking hands and there's no misogyny it's because every one of
00:50:15.200 those women is the wife of one of your buddies and now we're all friends but if it's a if it's
00:50:20.060 a bunch of random bitches they're they're fine they're just random bitches man and this guy
00:50:24.960 k he put the pin on it put the button on he said the only right-wing woman is your wife
00:50:31.480 there you go there you go that's it said it better than i ever could have said anyway um
00:50:37.380 so the e-girl question here here's disgrace propagandist going on a rant i'm just going to
00:50:42.540 read it it says last note on the battle with e-girls before i leave it to the feeding frenzy
00:50:46.920 and he's going to mention red scare but also this uh scene sort of known as dimes square
00:50:53.700 we talked about this on the show a long time ago because people were coming to me they heard about
00:50:59.180 this thing called dime square and they kept asking me is that you are you dime square like
00:51:03.660 and i didn't know and i looked into it and i still don't really know if you still don't know
00:51:07.880 if it's you i got news it's not you i got this guy who i like named illegitimate scholar i'm
00:51:14.360 trying to get on his show he and and we were talking he's like is that you are you the guy
00:51:18.820 i've been hearing about dime square i'm like no you should just start telling people yes it is
00:51:23.720 that's a bunch of prostitutes smoking cigarettes in an art gallery that's what that is anyway here's
00:51:30.220 what he says many say that the dime square red scare is a vector for right-wing ideas and that's
00:51:35.700 the argument it's just a vector to get our ideas out there and indeed this is true historically
00:51:41.060 as i've said repeatedly i'm a huge fan of anna i love her work and her entire vibe she deserves
00:51:48.120 her fame and every interaction i've had with her i leave impressed note however that the comment
00:51:53.380 set off a specific hanger-on in this scene who's notoriously fame hungry and trans but this person
00:51:59.400 as bffs with all the big names it was my response to this person a pretty basic right-wing one
00:52:05.240 calling them a man that set off the reaction among all this person's friends who began
00:52:09.460 attacking me and thus we see what has happened to this scene this supposed vector of right-wing
00:52:14.960 ideas it has been reversed it is now a vector to shoehorn girl bossery and typical lefty degeneracy
00:52:21.760 back into the dissonant right longhouse rule you must not call a man a man or a woman a woman
00:52:26.880 or else face the wrath of the girl bosses who run the show you see this pattern effectively
00:52:32.120 everywhere on the right from the normie fox news crowd to maga to dime square the instantaneous
00:52:37.560 hollowing out of the values that made this thing interesting in the first place um and so and
00:52:43.100 that's kind of what i wanted to focus on because i do think that is accurate that you have these
00:52:47.920 girls who kind of reach prominence and then what happens like why why is it that the moment you
00:52:54.880 start letting these girls in all these trannies and queers show up and this the reason i wanted
00:53:00.140 to get into this is because we sort of started pulling on this thread when we were talking about
00:53:04.460 that freak show evelyn evelyn yeah you know anything you'd say about dime square you can
00:53:10.280 also say it about academic agent why is he surrounded by so many fucking trannies and queers
00:53:14.340 and then what what do they do immediately they ruin everything like what what business does
00:53:20.440 evelyn the transgender uh one of the people who runs no most events no most events is an event
00:53:26.160 hosting company i've gotten into it with this this guy on twitter before so i'm not telling any
00:53:32.320 tales out of school here i've been very clear on this but i've been very clear that anyone who
00:53:36.120 platforms as evelyn like what the fuck is wrong with you let me just say this that look now more
00:53:41.640 than ever mainstream people are into our ideas there is no shortage of people who've got based
00:53:50.260 and heterodox and cool psychopathic ideas there's we're not hurting for takes not hurting for
00:53:57.820 opinion makers what has a tranny ever brought to the table that's interesting nothing there's no
00:54:04.620 reason to have a fucking freak like like evelyn like any tranny on your show they're not going
00:54:11.680 to have a cool new idea they can't right wingers our first principle is that you as a troon should
00:54:17.360 be permanently removed from society you shouldn't even be allowed to use the internet so how dare
00:54:22.540 you come here and claim you're part of our group you are not you are anathema to our group you are
00:54:27.180 literally the sworn enemy of our group it's like having it's like having far-right guys who are
00:54:32.040 jewish like in the babsphere like a third of them are fucking jewish it's like yeah but they're good
00:54:36.380 jews no there's no such thing as a good jew and if you don't agree with me that's okay go disagree
00:54:41.840 over there because you're not part of our group we're not the same we don't why is that every
00:54:47.820 base jew like i covered this on real secret coffee hours i covered three articles one was by
00:54:52.700 curtis yarvin one is from bap and one was from actually jordan peterson who's not jewish but
00:54:57.160 they were on the israeli-palestinian conflict they were all united on the fact that this conflict
00:55:03.140 should end israel should basically be allowed to win and they should resettle uh the palestinians
00:55:09.240 somewhere else where somewhere else or it's like oh i don't know why not san francisco like like
00:55:14.100 all your fucking it's just fucking surreal because their their first principle is israel is king and
00:55:20.140 must survive and jews are always good and the and you'll watch every single time it doesn't matter
00:55:25.280 about politics every single time all other principles all other politics or beliefs that
00:55:30.280 they claim to have had evaporate instantly when they start talking about israel they're worried
00:55:35.960 about the browns not not with israel they're worried about war killing children not with israel
00:55:41.120 they're worried about borders borders are bad no not with israel like it's like that was one example
00:55:47.040 where i'm like even in this case like the based heterodox the ones who they make all the holocaust
00:55:52.820 jokes they make all the you know the smarmy references to the six million and things like
00:55:58.840 that but when it comes down to actual policy they're like well maybe we should resettle the
00:56:03.500 palestinians in europe like fuck you fuck you like that's a first principle and resettle the
00:56:08.860 palestinians in tel aviv maybe we should do that a first principle should be that you don't want to
00:56:14.440 you want you're against mass migration of brown people into europe a first principle might be that
00:56:20.400 white people exist and should be allowed to advocate for their interests that's a good
00:56:25.000 first principle to have and if you have the first principle you can actually be you can go eat sushi
00:56:30.880 you can listen to hip hop once you have a first principle you stop worrying about all these little
00:56:36.380 check boxes you have to run you know because you're you're confident in your beliefs and you
00:56:41.560 if you ask the people that question and they say no or they hem and they haw about you like okay
00:56:45.280 you're not my friend you know like if you don't think white people exist or should be allowed to
00:56:50.360 exist like well then we're we're not going to probably agree on anything else even if we agree
00:56:54.100 on some stuff i know it's going to come from a place that is is against my best interest right
00:57:00.660 So once you understand what their first principles are.
00:57:03.800 So the first principle of these spaces, what I fear is that their first principles will absorb our ideas, our research, our takes, and twist it into this other thing.
00:57:14.980 And I've seen that happen with a lot of...
00:57:17.980 Okay, I'm going to say something that's going to sound very sizzling.
00:57:24.540 Here's a sizzling few sentences for you.
00:57:27.900 and it's just been something i've been percolating on and i open the floor i open the comments to
00:57:34.140 feedback but bear with me here what have the nazis been wrong about really i'm not talking
00:57:43.380 maybe you don't like neo-nazis you don't like skinheads but the nazis that we we all know
00:57:49.340 you mean like the real nazis the nsdap yes what were they wrong about in terms of their
00:57:57.560 beliefs like we've all done the thing where we disagree with some of their specific um economic
00:58:02.940 like i disagree with the way they built the highways it was very successful but i would
00:58:06.240 have done it a little differently that's the thing we go so deep on it we're actually going
00:58:09.880 into like the sub policies which is like i i like the idea of the autobahn but i think it should
00:58:16.560 have gone this way instead of that way like we're going yes yeah into like very they're not the
00:58:22.180 the point being they're not infallible but broadly speaking no they're they did well with the broad
00:58:27.860 strokes even if you disagree economically but you're like i see where they're coming from and
00:58:31.500 maybe at the time no it was it was effective it was one of the probably you know what i'll say is
00:58:36.420 they're they are shoulder to shoulder with all other governments of the age and since they're
00:58:41.520 the king there's nothing else then or since that achieved what they did and did it with
00:58:47.060 so little violence and suffering actually and now let's and some people say you know what of the
00:58:54.580 holocaust what of the six million and i say i've got great news for you it's not real
00:59:01.700 for all those who are saying never again i say never once
00:59:06.980 i'm just moving i'm not going to get in the weeds on that but the thing is and let me transfer
00:59:16.880 it to the modern day what are the nazis wrong about now now let's go to the list my contention
00:59:24.520 is that the the nazis the white supremacists that we know even though they might not like us
00:59:31.340 i'm not even saying i'm part of that sphere they probably hate us for a variety of reasons they do
00:59:35.480 hate us so i'm not saying this to advocate for my thing i'm just saying that if i look at the stuff
00:59:40.820 that the white supremacists have been doing
00:59:43.840 over the past many decades,
00:59:46.280 they seem to be ahead of the curve
00:59:48.220 and correct on pretty much everything.
00:59:50.800 Let's say a list.
00:59:52.360 The militia movement.
00:59:53.880 Everyone talks about a militia.
00:59:55.040 Everyone talks about what are we going to do
00:59:56.420 in the shade of the van.
00:59:57.380 They've been doing that.
00:59:58.460 They were the first ones doing that.
01:00:00.260 They were some of the first people
01:00:01.340 doing the homesteading
01:00:02.880 and the mutual aid networks.
01:00:04.180 They were some of the first people.
01:00:05.200 And I'm not talking about going back to the 60s.
01:00:07.020 I'm not talking about,
01:00:07.920 because there was a debate
01:00:08.980 in in one of the chats about you know was it the christians or the leftists who kind of
01:00:14.060 pioneered homeschooling in america i'm just talking within the the very strict modern
01:00:19.140 context of like what's been going on in the past like 20 years now it seems that the white
01:00:23.860 supremacists aren't you know people talk about physique posting that's what the vitalist guys
01:00:28.340 do the bronze age pervert types you know getting in shape and then mogging on your opponents and
01:00:33.300 taking photos of yourself hey nothing against that and if that encourages young men to get in
01:00:38.960 shape and start liking war go ahead however you know who was doing that first was the fucking
01:00:45.500 white supremacist forums like the far-right guys were really into online fitness stuff way before
01:00:52.160 this shit in fact a lot of the bronze age purge stuff emerged from those forums right even now
01:00:58.140 a lot of the physique posters you know what they're not doing anything practical with it
01:01:02.020 but it's the the nazis and white supremacists who have fighting leagues they get cage matches they
01:01:06.800 got mma fights and boxing matches not a lot of other people are doing that they're also out
01:01:11.340 starting gun clubs a lot of the time when leftists get their gun clubs going you're the reason they
01:01:17.520 give is we have to catch up with what the fucking nazis are doing because they've actually had
01:01:22.120 gun clubs for a long time what i'm saying is that anything practical and interesting
01:01:27.720 seems to have been done by the white supremacists or nazis first um furthermore they seem you know
01:01:35.740 we make fun of them all the time for having you know a whole bunch of psychos and weirdos in there
01:01:40.360 i don't think they've had as much of a woman problem as other groups here's a great example
01:01:45.800 radfem hitler radfem hitler was drummed right the fuck out of the right stuff.biz i know lots
01:01:52.100 of people who knew her back when she was just a nazi hoe and they they were identifying the red
01:01:57.640 flags with her and kicked her the fuck out bullied and trolled her out and she's accepted with open
01:02:02.840 arms by all these fucking faggots and trains and queers and weird nerds and put on a pedestal so
01:02:09.380 i guess the nazis don't have a rad femme hitler problem you know what they don't seem to have a
01:02:13.740 problem with a lot of these insane bitches and that doesn't seem to stop them from having families
01:02:19.160 and being effective they figured it out yeah and all i'm saying is maybe some people should look
01:02:25.500 at this group that is the most disparaged the most spat upon and say you know what maybe they're
01:02:30.820 the only ones who've ever done anything fucking right and effective yeah actually like they're
01:02:35.780 the only ones who actually seem to at the very least tell psycho bitches to hit the road now
01:02:41.980 what do you think about that i i gave you a lot there okay so here's here it is i'm gonna throw
01:02:46.480 this at you have you heard of the cyclic theory of subcultures i it sounds like something that i
01:02:52.980 can probably understand just from the title but it's around it's been tossed around so there's
01:02:57.380 different phases to a subculture that they rise and fall but there's three classes of people it
01:03:02.940 starts with geeks where the people of the core principles they understand it well they're having
01:03:06.680 fun on their own in a closed-knit group then the mops come in the mops are people on the outside
01:03:11.880 who have never had so much fun and they're looking in the window seeing the geeks enjoy themselves so
01:03:16.000 they join but every mop that joins he doesn't hurt anything but he sucks up all the extra energy
01:03:20.760 from the geeks and the geeks are maintaining them right the geeks love the attention so they keep
01:03:25.140 letting mops in but once the doors open to the mops finally the psychos come in the psychos see
01:03:30.260 all of these people and they see them all as marks and because most of the people there are mops and
01:03:34.400 have no clue what's going on it's like wolves or it's if it's a fox in a hen house and they're
01:03:39.240 there they pretend to be members of the group but if the geeks talk to them the geeks know right away
01:03:45.260 that they aren't one of them, that they don't hold the same principles. They don't even know
01:03:48.320 how the game is played. They're just here to eat people and take money and grift. And then what
01:03:53.540 eventually happens, one of two things happens. The entire subculture blows up and everybody
01:03:57.280 remembers it as a disaster or the geeks start shutting everybody off and say, no mops, no
01:04:04.480 psychos. The only people who are allowed in this circle are those of us who are here before we open
01:04:09.220 the doors. They nuke the place and they go underground in order to save it. That's the
01:04:13.740 nazis that's the white supremacists they've kept their core principles at the cost of kicking
01:04:19.120 fucking everybody else out and sometimes sometimes purity spiraling but the purity spiral is a
01:04:24.920 defense mechanism that prevents them from turning into dime square dime square is the opposite
01:04:30.100 first you had all the mops and the twitter people and the hangers on coming in just because now the
01:04:35.360 right wing is edgy and it's cool and it's you know you got all the fucking teenagers in here we get
01:04:40.020 them in our chat all the time like who the fuck are these people right and then even worse than
01:04:44.700 that now you have the i almost said baposphere but i don't we're not supposed to piss anybody
01:04:49.620 off the dime square people who used to be leftists but they just go with the wind they have no
01:04:54.800 principles they go wherever the cool edgy content is because they live on cool edgy content bucks
01:05:01.240 to pay their exorbitant jewish new york rent it really is just about money and following the wind
01:05:06.380 and what's going to happen is inevitably we're going to find a way to nuke all of them and go
01:05:11.740 underground to protect our principles or our own group our own group is going to be destroyed by it
01:05:18.100 because the psychos and the mops are going to get between us and drive us apart and
01:05:21.780 in my in my opinion that's what's happening right now i think even in our chat and i'm one day i'm
01:05:27.620 going to start naming names i think even in our chat and in the groups that we circuit i don't
01:05:31.360 even go I don't even talk to a lot of people I think probably a fifth of the people that we
01:05:36.520 talk to regularly are these fucking people already so but we'll we'll see what happens
01:05:42.760 over the next few years you know my whole thing is I don't I'm to the point I don't give a fuck
01:05:47.120 about telegram or twitter anymore I want property and I want guns and I want to grow corn and I want
01:05:53.100 to build something and I want to have a business and a family that's what matters to me and maybe
01:05:57.140 that's my way of exiting and blowing it up but like but but that's also to me that that is
01:06:01.160 something closer to a first principle because that's something that you would subscribe to
01:06:05.640 other things that feed into that and if a thing if the ideology or the political position or
01:06:11.280 or the spirituality or whatever is against that then that's not for you at the very least you
01:06:16.580 have that that anchor um and what's interesting is i don't know exactly how to split this across
01:06:23.960 gender lines but there does seem to be a gender bifurcation happening here definitely because
01:06:29.800 um and i speak about this on the article um i wrote that i'm actually trying to get into cars
01:06:36.200 and women magazine which is a magazine in our space i wrote this really long winding schizo
01:06:42.380 article um but it was about i was relating this topic to marshall mcclellan and um his his
01:06:50.620 discussion about how the extension of our senses along the electronic media what you think would
01:06:58.380 explode us outward but it actually collapsed us inward it re-tribalized us to create this
01:07:03.260 interconnectedness between everyone especially in the air net age which is a very feminine way
01:07:09.100 of being and it's very antithetical to how men perceive the world because men more likely perceive
01:07:16.220 the world on an individual basis or within their property or their territory whatever it is
01:07:20.620 Um, the, the whole way of existing online, it's very feminine.
01:07:25.140 And a lot of guys don't like that.
01:07:26.820 And we've been like slamming our heads against the wall, trying to figure out how to draw
01:07:30.760 masculine lines.
01:07:31.820 And what is essentially a feminine space?
01:07:33.720 In my opinion, social media is inherently feminine.
01:07:36.960 Yes.
01:07:37.280 Um, and, and we're trying to figure out how to like reclaim our masculinity in that space.
01:07:41.360 Um, but the way women, the, the way women interact with the world and society, of course,
01:07:47.940 I'm telling people things I already know is very different than men.
01:07:51.460 I find the introduction of the word vibes into the popular parlance of our people is evidence of that because women operate on vibes.
01:08:02.500 Women, they don't like to be told things.
01:08:05.660 Women don't like to be lectured to and they don't like confrontation.
01:08:08.980 They don't like getting into big fucking arguments.
01:08:10.820 Right. They don't like getting into debates.
01:08:13.040 And a lot of a lot of what they believe or do is unspoken.
01:08:17.940 um it's very it's a lot of subtext it's a lot of contextual behaviors but vibes is part of that
01:08:24.360 you get a bad feeling um with us on the distant right we have the wind at our back we have a good
01:08:30.920 vibe you know there's um i even disgraced propagandist talks about this but there's like a
01:08:36.660 a new of new vibe change that's what they say like women can feel that the vibe in society
01:08:43.000 is pointed more towards us now what caused that to happen well a great many things a lot of it was
01:08:48.280 activism a lot of it was our creators just push it's like decades and decades of us trying to
01:08:53.380 push our ideas actually broke through in whatever way so now there's the vibe has shifted a vibe
01:08:59.760 shift has occurred and that's more or less what i think the women are being attracted to because
01:09:04.260 all these women who are in our space now they got into it late you know just to use bronze age
01:09:09.140 mindset bronze age magic came out like fucking seven years ago and now like the women just
01:09:13.940 discovered it and now they're like have you read everyone's read it it's old news and like just
01:09:18.860 like the fucking the party the practice people like this is a book full of like eight to ten
01:09:23.620 year old memes you guys just figured out this shit you're new right but that's the the vibe
01:09:29.980 is that these types of fucking people are getting into edgy memes now right and that's the that's
01:09:36.060 kind of the definition we're talking about the cyclic theory that's the mops right and it's
01:09:40.340 important to point that out we are the ones that created this we're or at least our group of people
01:09:44.960 are the ones who pushed and when i say pushed i mean we were into this stuff when it's not like
01:09:50.040 music where it's like i liked it before it was cool like no we liked it when we were losing our
01:09:53.800 jobs over it we liked it where so much is mentioning this stuff would could get you
01:09:57.600 expelled from school when we were in high school now a lot of the stuff that we're saying although
01:10:01.880 the stakes are higher a lot of it has become public and it's like this culture war shit
01:10:06.200 and now culturally it seems like we're winning to an extent that people can join and they at least
01:10:13.940 in the sanitized you know bap dime square twitter sphere you can be on twitter and not get banned
01:10:22.360 and not lose your job for saying you know i don't know pro pro masculine i don't even know what they
01:10:30.320 they're not really anti that's anti-semitic right but like they're pro pro masculine pro
01:10:34.520 family pro all of this it's like yeah you're you're fucking late first of all and you're
01:10:38.720 only saying this because it's cool you're not risking or sacrificing anything like we well
01:10:44.060 and just to turn to the praxis thing the praxis thing not to be too hard on these guys but from
01:10:49.020 what i see it's very much a vibe thing it's very much because it's a fucking grift is what it is
01:10:54.300 I love the idea of making our ideas palatable to people with capital, people in power, because I actually don't think our ideas, they are radical, but radicalism, I think, has a wide audience now more than ever.
01:11:08.460 And we can do that.
01:11:10.560 I'm skeptical of the types of people who are doing it.
01:11:14.020 And so I don't want to throw that entire engagement out.
01:11:17.800 But, you know, my fear is that the vibe shift conversation is going to like take our ideas, twist them up into something perverted and kind of ruin it.
01:11:27.800 Because right now, you know, the idea is like, why do you want people with power and capital to be interested in your ideas?
01:11:35.600 Well, probably it's to fund you, to patronize you, not patronize in the negative sense, but be a patron.
01:11:43.320 This is what I hear from people all the time.
01:11:45.280 Like, we need patrons.
01:11:46.600 Yes.
01:11:46.960 we need people with money to give us money that's how other political movements have worked in the
01:11:52.600 past yes you know people like i'm not a finance guy but i've had finance people like that i asked
01:11:57.800 this question when i asked like well what is it they're investing in like we yeah it's people
01:12:02.960 should give us money for doing what we're doing sure but what are they what are they getting out
01:12:06.420 of it what are we really offering anyone over here i mean really is it a business idea what
01:12:11.880 type is it just another crypto rug pull i had there's nothing there's nothing yeah so it's like
01:12:17.480 if we can answer that question then we can actually get in that room but then those businesses those
01:12:23.200 things that they we want them to invest in will be manifestations of our first principles right so
01:12:28.860 the idea is i want a venture capitalist to take interest in this fucking decentralized education
01:12:34.180 network that i've got going over here which emerges from my belief and how education should
01:12:38.840 be rotten whatever it might be you can have your first principles manifested in a in a business or
01:12:44.740 a network or whatever just for the love of god don't make another fucking online magazine
01:12:48.560 the love of christ we don't need another another week the ones we got are good we got them yeah
01:12:54.620 all the good although your your favorite magazine good i love it too and by the way little private
01:13:01.020 societies and little sovereign states for radical libertarians have been around for decades there's
01:13:07.000 hundreds of them most of them fail but there are active ones that are have not failed and are
01:13:12.220 totally fucking fine and you can go join them tomorrow and live in that utopia as long as
01:13:17.620 you're willing to walk around in the mud in your bare feet and farm turnips all fucking day and
01:13:22.000 drink water that you know of marginal quality then you're cool you can do that but this idea
01:13:28.280 that somebody finally for the thousandth time is going to collect all of this money and the point
01:13:33.180 is it's clearly it's clearly a fucking grift and you're right these guys are playing the game
01:13:38.460 correctly in terms of sucking money up but that's where they fall into this cycle they're the guys
01:13:44.180 with no fucking principles who see which way the wind is blowing and they're really really good
01:13:48.600 at getting millions of dollars from people who with too much money but they have no fucking
01:13:53.440 principles so it's never going to go anywhere it's never going to turn into anything yeah i'm
01:13:59.700 going to read another little rant here that i think might capture my tone a bit better it's by
01:14:04.500 this individual named basil at neo uh bacteria and i don't know too much about this guy i've heard
01:14:10.740 some some some a thing or two about a thing or two about him but i don't know whatever um i'm just
01:14:16.220 going to read his post um he says a lot of you motherfuckers owe me a lot of apologies a lot of
01:14:22.120 you notable figures need to be men and start taking out the trash why is it that women he
01:14:27.580 He kind of centers it here, but I'm just going to read it from what I think he's saying.
01:14:30.880 Why is it that women, faggots, and trannies think they can punch right and gatekeep here?
01:14:35.960 Why is it that Palestinian Medgold and Radfam Hitler jump in to attack this man when he said nothing wrong?
01:14:42.560 It's because, like I've been telling you for three years,
01:14:44.820 this media market has been paused by the faggots and trannies and wannabe artists hiding under Anna's skirt
01:14:52.060 as she's made the transition from post-left to dissident-right.
01:14:56.500 Fair enough.
01:14:56.980 Every take seller and notable figure here knows that she has connections to more mainstream media outlets and everyone turns a blind eye to the post post leftists she smuggled in who feel emboldened by the fact that no one wants to draw attention to their subversion lest they be misconstrued as counter signaling Anna and effectively cut them out from the connections she's perceived to have.
01:15:18.820 yep so like jack so people like jack get to punch right on the basis of being gay while running his
01:15:25.640 dick pic extortion racket and pariah which is another individual thinks she can dunk on real
01:15:31.240 men because he knows that every wannabe take seller attached to anna's ass like a barnacle
01:15:35.800 will jump to defend jump to her defense because especially in the case of jack and monica everyone
01:15:40.840 knows they're psychotic and emotionally unstable and will blow up the whole thing by spilling the
01:15:45.620 gossip they already know don't say no one told you i mean yep i mean fair all true all true so
01:15:51.520 clout chasing random media personalities because they're well connected and because you think you
01:15:56.640 can get money out of them if you don't have an active use for that network or that money
01:16:00.360 and you're chasing the clout i mean you're just make you're making it worse just by being there
01:16:05.880 and being involved in it i'm sorry but you're you're fucking making it worse and that's what
01:16:09.220 these guys are doing and it's it isn't just anna anna obviously is a big part of the problem
01:16:13.340 but we're talking about the number of people who are just turning a blind eye and not saying
01:16:17.700 anything i'm not involved in this scene i feel like i'm at least doing my part by publicly saying
01:16:21.920 anna is a turncoat and a fucking bitch she's not one of us and anybody else who interacts with her
01:16:26.200 is also not one of us i mean don't tell tell me i'm fucking wrong and by the way we've said a
01:16:32.140 million times there's no such thing as a right-wing gay there's no such thing as a right-wing
01:16:35.800 they're all out they're all enemies and anybody who's standing up for them you're platforming
01:16:39.780 them they're also the enemy they're just interlopers they're just people who are pretending
01:16:43.540 to be like you so they can take your fucking money and ruin your group but the other thing that we
01:16:47.320 don't talk about often enough although we have mentioned it there's no such thing as a right
01:16:51.020 wing female pundit that's a fucking joke women are not political figures women are not leaders
01:16:57.000 women are not philosophers if a woman is telling you how to live you need you should be embarrassed
01:17:02.240 you should be really really really embarrassed if you're reading a sub stack that was written
01:17:06.420 by a woman it's kind of over i'm sorry that so many people need to fucking hear that but if you
01:17:13.420 have a if half of your people that you follow on twitter are like female political take makers
01:17:20.120 what the fuck man what just delete delete why are you even the reason why people follow them
01:17:26.640 is probably because of gossip probably because if you follow these you're going to get sub tweets
01:17:31.060 you're going to get i mean there we caught you with your fucking pants down didn't we because
01:17:34.540 that isn't about principles anymore that's literally you're just clout and gossip chasing
01:17:38.680 you should again all i can say is you should be really fucking embarrassed and maybe you should
01:17:44.220 take a maybe you should take a break maybe you should turn the phone off for a couple of months
01:17:47.940 i thought it was well known that anytime you invite trannies in they just start problems
01:17:54.480 a hundred i've seen it happen a few times you see that this evelyn that we've talked about
01:17:59.740 there's a lot of people who were from communities they've been in where it's like they're causing
01:18:04.760 problems they're trying to like troll guys by pretending to be a woman and laughing at them
01:18:09.700 when they find it like just starting shit you don't want to have they're not going to bring
01:18:14.000 anything to the table that is has any utility to what you want to do there's no reason to fucking
01:18:19.160 have them around just say fuck off yeah what what what good idea is a tranny going to have
01:18:24.040 it's just a countdown until they blow this fucking thing up and i thought that went without saying
01:18:29.200 The wonderful thing about social media, too, is you don't have to interact with these people. You can just delete them, block them, unfollow. You don't even have to use social media as a pro tip. You can just not. Unless you are, like, I know that the reason you do it, the reason you're on Twitter is because we have this show and you're actively promoting our show so we can make some money and so that we can get more viewers. I get it.
01:18:52.540 but for most people that are on Twitter,
01:18:54.520 they're there because that's their parasocial dopamine rush for the day.
01:18:59.700 Like,
01:19:00.220 and also people who are,
01:19:02.280 again,
01:19:02.680 I'm not going to name names,
01:19:03.380 but there's people on there who are clout chasing for the sake of clout
01:19:06.980 chasing.
01:19:07.360 I'm networking for the sake of networking.
01:19:08.940 It's like,
01:19:09.180 for what dude?
01:19:09.940 Like when I network,
01:19:11.020 I'm networking in a specific industry because I have products to sell.
01:19:14.120 Cause I own a company.
01:19:15.140 That's not,
01:19:15.780 that's what networking actually is.
01:19:18.000 Dumbass.
01:19:18.520 If you don't have a business or a company or a product or a service,
01:19:21.340 that's not networking that's just you feeling good and trying to fucking grift people
01:19:26.180 you know like i don't know if i can really connect these points but i feel like something's there
01:19:31.000 i've been watching a lot of rodeo clips lately i want to see how this connects i've been watching
01:19:39.780 clips uh and little documentaries and footage of this uh um bull rider named jb money
01:19:47.920 fascinating guy guy uh who just retired retired because uh known to be the greatest bull rider
01:19:56.540 you know of all time it come to him natural you know it's a different thing that most people i
01:20:03.740 guess don't have you know in their blood in their body you know it's just a dirty rotten tough cowboy
01:20:12.600 um that's what everyone's seen other bull riders do and a lot of people don't know about bull
01:20:17.380 right i didn't know about it but i kind of heard people whispering about this guy and he looks like
01:20:23.200 a cowboy and he acts like a cowboy and you see videos of him a lot of people are or if you ever
01:20:28.540 seen bull riding it's it's no joke right i don't think you can compare like hitler to people that
01:20:36.040 worry about climate change the worry that i have not but a lot of people wear helmets he doesn't
01:20:40.860 wear a helmet he's wearing a fucking cowboy hat he's smoking a marlboro cigarette right and um
01:20:46.180 he just retired at age 37 because he broke his fucking neck but he's the real deal um and he
01:20:53.220 isn't even technically the top rodeo guy not the top bull rider um because other people might have
01:21:01.020 scored more points or won more championships but he's revered in the scene for a few reasons
01:21:06.420 um legend status because um first and foremost like he he it's the love of the sport from him
01:21:13.420 so oftentimes he had said he'll pick the toughest bull to try and ride and oftentimes he'll lose
01:21:19.900 but he's like i want to just pick the nastiest bull and there's this it's so funny there's this
01:21:25.100 bull that he had a rivalry with named bushwhacker and this was like the meanest biggest boy ever
01:21:31.760 seen and he rode it like a dozen times and lost every single time and won it that one time but
01:21:36.300 it was like this notorious rivalry where he'd go up and like shit talk the bull beforehand
01:21:41.040 and like the bull like knew him and didn't like him either great real like like folk tale type
01:21:48.260 stuff anyway um but that's what made him famous because they said that's that's real cowboy shit
01:21:53.600 like he it was just like i want to do it because i want to ride the toughest bull the second thing
01:21:57.620 about him is that he actually is a cowboy he he rides a horse he has a ranch he goes fucking
01:22:04.520 roping cattle all day and like he is you know a lot of people might look at that and think like
01:22:09.360 Yellowstone, that show, but he seems like a guy pulled from that show.
01:22:13.060 But he is, for all intents and purposes, a cowboy.
01:22:17.080 Being a cowboy is a lifestyle.
01:22:18.580 That's what I was raised to be.
01:22:20.980 I didn't much want to do anything else.
01:22:24.740 I rode bucking horses.
01:22:26.240 I rode calves.
01:22:29.080 No, not every bull rider does it.
01:22:30.740 A lot of them guys don't even know how to ride a horse.
01:22:32.520 I don't want to ride a horse, but I'd rather be a cowboy than just a bull rider any day.
01:22:39.360 and they say he's like the last of his breed the last of that type of guy who's just like riding
01:22:47.500 the bull without the helmet on and smoking cigarettes while he's doing it and even he
01:22:51.700 makes one of saying like this new breed of bull riders they're almost too technical about it and
01:22:58.440 he had made a point he said you know a lot first of all let me say a lot of guys would look at this
01:23:02.060 guy like he's like a legend he's a mythical creature we don't know how he does it because
01:23:06.480 he's 5'10 says he's 5'10 probably 5'9 right um he's 140 pounds he really he's called scrawny
01:23:16.420 right so you're thinking wow the fuck is this guy riding a bull he must have some magic power but
01:23:20.280 if you watch the documentary he's like it's not about strength you're never gonna out wrangle a
01:23:25.420 fucking 1800 pound bull but he says it's all about balance if you watch him he all he does for like
01:23:32.040 hours a day and he stands on like the soccer ball and balances on it balance for me is a huge part
01:23:41.320 it doesn't matter how big you are you're not going to out muscle a damn 1800 pound bull
01:23:47.160 standing on it like that the way it rolls and the way you have to move your weight is just like a bull
01:23:55.480 it's worked for me i feel like that's the main reason i move my hips so good is
01:23:59.880 standing on this thing all the time i did it for an hour a day for a long time you know it's
01:24:05.480 if i didn't have anything to do that's where i'd be i'd be inside standing on this ball
01:24:09.160 watching bull riding tapes eating the sandwich where you could walk in i'd talk to you and never
01:24:12.520 get off the ball when he rides a bowl other people will kind of size of the bowl and look
01:24:18.520 up youtube videos look up archival footage of the bowl how does it react how do you get a game plan
01:24:22.840 going he does the opposite he just it's like muscle memory for him he's like if i start studying the
01:24:28.120 stats and studying the videos i make a game plan in my head if i don't know what the bull does
01:24:34.280 then my body reacts on its own i ride him jump for jump if i know what he does in the back of
01:24:40.340 my head i'm setting a game plan for him you set a trap for a bull you get caught in it every time
01:24:46.600 and like mike tyson said everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth
01:24:51.840 right so he's like you just kind of you you live in the moment you rely on like your guts and it's
01:24:57.780 in your blood and you respond in real time and that's how he won so many that's why he's a
01:25:02.120 fucking legend he actually used this to win but the second him being a cowboy he says like the
01:25:08.740 fact that he actually rides a horse also helps too the fact that he lives the life of this type
01:25:15.060 of individual that was everywhere 100 years ago now now he's now no one does it now you just have
01:25:20.960 this new breed of bull riders and that's all they do and they obsess about stats and the only thing
01:25:25.840 they do is like i'm a bull rider that's the one thing i do i don't know any other cowboying skills
01:25:30.300 bull riding's getting to be a bigger sport it's starting to become more mainstream
01:25:35.940 generation i see now is getting farther and farther away from being cowboys
01:25:40.640 i think that eventually it'll consist of just guys that ride bulls and that's why they'll never be
01:25:48.100 great that's why they'll never have like you can study and learn little tricks all fucking day and
01:25:54.600 Maybe you can win a few titles, but you'll never have it in your blood.
01:25:57.720 You'll never have that power of improvisation to really shock and awe people.
01:26:04.240 And I just, when I look at all these individuals in the scene,
01:26:08.080 when we talk about the white supremacist scene,
01:26:11.900 we talk about first principles, it's because there's something deeper.
01:26:14.820 There's something deeper that just manifests as this one thing.
01:26:18.420 But if you don't have the deeper first principles,
01:26:20.480 if you don't have that that love of just that the love of this one thing it's not you're not there
01:26:26.260 because it's cool you're not there because it's flashy you're not there because you want to win
01:26:30.360 a medal you're there because that is what you are and you'll be there when it's popular you'll be
01:26:35.980 there when it's not popular and you'll be doing it until you break your fucking neck and there's
01:26:40.720 not a lot of people in this scene that i see who are like that i don't see a jb money in this
01:26:46.020 fucking space of faggots and trannies right they're they're down here in the fucking muck
01:26:51.100 and they've been here forever and and they're never going to have that led that that ability
01:26:56.180 to be a legend at it because they're just they're just technical they're just trying to bet on
01:27:01.460 they're into this thing now because it's popular yeah and maybe they just stop they don't go back
01:27:06.640 to being a coward but they don't go back to being anything yeah anyway that's it just made me think
01:27:11.760 of the the people who do something because it's substance because because it's substantive because
01:27:17.700 it's just connected to this deeper identity and this deeper drive and this passion and so that's
01:27:23.960 why when i look at these spaces i do i don't know if i'd say it's like i do question the practicality
01:27:31.580 and the strategy of even dealing with these fucking people you know i mean like just having
01:27:36.500 them they're like i do i do i even want them around i don't i don't fault anybody for dealing
01:27:41.880 with them because there's many different strategies but i don't deal with them and
01:27:45.120 that isn't out of laziness i actively avoid dealing with them and i know you have to temper
01:27:50.100 me because i will just tell every single fucking person to fuck off but i don't i just don't i
01:27:55.680 don't see every second that i spend interacting with one of these people there's even one thing
01:28:00.800 wrong with them i'm gonna regret it because i could have spent it with my family i could have
01:28:04.460 spent it on my business i could have spent it in my garden like i and and most these people are so
01:28:10.600 like the whole the dime square thing especially like anna is so fucking damaged everything about
01:28:17.360 her history and her as a person is just tossed toxic whore left-wing trash but now a a mid girl
01:28:25.800 is going to say some right-wing shit about the jews and suddenly everybody's dick is hard
01:28:30.100 and i mean it's not even that i don't want to talk to her i don't talk to her i'm not on twitter
01:28:34.820 but to hear the number of people that like want to induct her into our space makes me want to leave
01:28:40.620 my own circle like makes me want to just delete telegram right because like i i can't i don't know
01:28:47.660 why like what do i get out of dealing with this like i'm not here to fucking also you can tell
01:28:53.400 these people apart when they they'll agree with our points then you ask them well what do you want
01:28:57.100 to do about it you agree that you know jews have these proclivities what do you want to do about it
01:29:02.680 do you want to subscribe to my sub stack to find out yeah or like ask any action do you want to
01:29:07.560 take any action on this like no it's what i don't want like you know like they don't want to do the
01:29:12.880 next thing right like if you you love steve sailor all you motherfuckers love steve sailor now don't
01:29:19.780 you we've loved steve sailor for a long time because he complains about black people he cites
01:29:24.800 the crime statistics and you love citing crime statistics because that's in the zeitgeist
01:29:29.760 14 to 50 black crime it's like okay what do you want to do about it let's talk about let's talk
01:29:35.780 about solutions oh no but that now i'm i'm a horrible racist because we're talking about
01:29:39.340 solutions now you're going to gatekeep me like the example that you brought up earlier like you
01:29:43.860 have you have troons who are supposed to be right wing but as soon as you start talking about real
01:29:48.380 right wing shit the stuff that's still actually dangerous to talk about you get gatekept by the
01:29:54.120 fucking troons who came in the back door and this is the reason you close the back door all these
01:29:58.740 women would be gender essentialists they would say yes men and women exist there is a binary
01:30:04.620 but if you make fun of their trans friend or imply that their trans friend is mentally ill and you
01:30:10.640 probably shouldn't have them as a friend then they get mad at you like no that it logically
01:30:14.820 and naturally follows if you believe x it leads to y if you believe that trannies are mentally ill
01:30:21.440 men and they're corrupted which a lot of them might say then why are you hanging out with them
01:30:25.920 oh no these ones no let's not be but you actually just haven't changed your fundamental nature of
01:30:31.580 being an esoteric girl boss a girl boss who's just into weird shit as long and because it's
01:30:37.260 been made comfortable for you by other people who put their fucking lives and careers on the line
01:30:42.560 oh it's safe to talk about jews now it's safe to talk about you know the trannies
01:30:48.180 there's people getting fined and going to jail for saying this shit you can still get fined
01:30:52.600 for that in canada in seven years you're gonna be on holocaust stuff now you know what i want
01:30:57.600 i wanted to come back to the um to delineate the difference between these types of people
01:31:02.540 the the bull riding example i kind of like that because it isn't just about the um the bull
01:31:07.860 rider by day guys like the weekend bull riders who aren't cowboys at all versus the cowboy
01:31:13.580 those two guys are kind of similar to to each other in a way but if you think about it that
01:31:19.160 the jb money if there was no such thing as a bull riding competition and the world ended tomorrow
01:31:25.960 he'd find a fucking bull to ride somewhere because it's it's in his blood the weekend bull rider the
01:31:32.280 only reason he's even there is because there's women there and money in it and the only reason
01:31:36.620 there's women and money is because jb money is there bringing the crowd right and then there's
01:31:42.340 on the far end of the spectrum is guys like you and me watching it on youtube with only a very
01:31:46.440 passing interest and on the other end of the spectrum the pure hyperborean end is a literal
01:31:53.400 actual platonic cowboy who has never seen a stadium and rides bulls because all he eats is
01:32:01.540 beef and beans and and howdy and marbles and the whole fucking shtick the whole thing that and you
01:32:07.580 could call that the principle that's the pure manifestation of what jb money represents jb
01:32:13.920 money is only a little piece but he's the genuine article and he's the only piece left he's like the
01:32:19.480 last of his kind you know even though he is the rest is just fakeness he's not a ranch hand he
01:32:25.080 doesn't spend you know nine days out on the mesa hunting rustled cattle or whatever he probably
01:32:32.120 lives in a trailer park but the point is is his life and his principles and what he searches for
01:32:38.380 is much closer to that he rides bulls because of who he is i will say though jb when he does have
01:32:43.920 a ranch that he runs like it's his ranch well there you go there you go so he is he's so much
01:32:47.980 closer to that he is like the only bull rider that's made like seven million dollars just
01:32:52.200 riding bulls because he is sponsored it's so fucking funny he's wearing like the vest and
01:32:57.200 the fucking chaps it's all like monster energy all over it i'm like yes okay well you're fucking
01:33:02.300 blowing me up here now but fuck i don't know no no no that's good like why not he's just a guy
01:33:06.640 like okay well i know why not he wouldn't have some kind of anti-capitalist thing he's like okay
01:33:11.940 i'll put your fucking patch on my code if you want to give me a hundred thousand dollars for my
01:33:15.640 daughter so she can like ride sheep you know because that's what you do before you go to
01:33:21.340 bulls you go ride sheep around as a kid um but anyway that's really i know that's we spent a lot
01:33:27.020 of time on that but this is just a roundabout way just wrap that up before we go the next thing of
01:33:32.200 saying that i'm taking a closer look at the interaction between spaces that's what this is
01:33:37.220 about it's the interaction between our space of heterodox weird schizo concepts how that is
01:33:42.640 actually connecting to capital and finance and money and the intermediary spaces that i'm losing
01:33:48.400 trust in because i think those can corrupt the message and i think even on the right the conservative
01:33:53.740 side like the maga people are getting their thing corrupted by you know other intermediaries as well
01:34:00.280 their own grifters their own people who are trying to take some of these more you know essential
01:34:06.300 ideas and kind of reappropriate them to something else can you know what because i i have some
01:34:11.080 experience with it again i was saying earlier about industry like i've worked in a few different
01:34:14.240 industries i'm even doing this now i mentioned the other day i was talking in the chat that
01:34:17.960 part of my job right now is actually maintaining a very old whisper network of old engineers across
01:34:24.480 southern ontario in a specific industry guys who are retiring and have not handed anything on and
01:34:29.280 trying to rebuild some relationships so that a lot of this business continues to happen and i've done
01:34:35.220 something similar in my previous work in hong kong and what i know is networks real valuable networks
01:34:41.660 where products and services and lots of money like investment through trust actually happens
01:34:47.060 like when those things change hands, you cannot buy or sell those. So I think there's something
01:34:55.560 already broken. If you have a quote unquote networking space, like there's a lot of places
01:35:01.360 that will sell this. Like the bottom end of this is the free real estate networking event at the
01:35:06.520 ACC or whatever, where every bored mom goes and it's free, but they pay 750 bucks for a book
01:35:12.780 to learn how to do nothing. Right. So like, that's not a networking event. You don't have
01:35:17.380 anything to sell. There's no target. You don't have a relationship. Most networks that matter
01:35:22.620 are people with real things and skills who know other people with real things and skills. And
01:35:27.940 they introduce party a to party B and they vouch for them. And there's an exchange of social value
01:35:33.940 there. Like these are real networks. And the reason they're so valuable is because they're
01:35:37.580 so fucking rare and they're so hard to create. They can only be created authentically and
01:35:41.800 organically and the only reason i'm bringing this up is if somebody is pitching you on a space like
01:35:47.060 twitter or wherever where you can just go and oh there's going to be lots of money people here
01:35:51.680 believe me and we can get lots of investment and actually it's like no it's almost certainly not
01:35:56.440 it's almost certainly going to be you you're the one giving money or you're the one giving time
01:36:00.540 or you are the product really you're just a face in a crowd in order to make the thing sell more
01:36:05.540 monster energy drinks so like that it's not it's not real it's not real and we my point is we have
01:36:12.560 not cracked we have not cracked investment in our thing the psychos have come in and they've figured
01:36:19.260 out how to get investment into adjacent shit but that doesn't help us because it's apples and
01:36:25.700 oranges trying to get investment in a grift to build a haitian island versus investing in like
01:36:31.800 you said a uh what did you say a a decentralized like a decentralized education system this is
01:36:39.140 something that is completely different and you're not going to be able to i don't think you're going
01:36:45.440 to get investors in that i'm not picking on you i'm just saying using that as an example i don't
01:36:50.020 think the way to get it because of investors on that is be a shit taker on on twitter with people
01:36:54.920 who are largely uh ex-left wingers yeah exactly no i agree completely uh i'm gonna segue this
01:37:01.900 very cleanly into the next thing because the connecting node between these two things is
01:37:08.020 the journalist because a lot of people would think of the journalist even in a classical sense like
01:37:15.640 a mid-20th century journalist as someone and their first principle would be the truth and oftentimes
01:37:21.520 like i saw i see so many fucking shows and movies about journalists and there's nothing less
01:37:29.140 interesting to me than a movie or show about a journalist yeah i had to stop watching tokyo
01:37:34.180 vice for that reason tokyo vice is an hbo show that has a lot of good things about it if it just
01:37:41.980 got rid of the main character who is a white jewish but played by a white i'm pretty sure in
01:37:48.500 japan um uncovering a really interesting story that should actually just be like a fucking tokyo
01:37:56.200 hong kong crime detective thriller we need to follow this like you know everyone's talking
01:38:00.700 about tokyo vice being canceled why is hbo hey tokyo vice um i watched the first like four or
01:38:07.460 five episodes i can tell you why i think it's getting canceled that season two is because it's
01:38:11.280 really fucking boring and it's got the worst main character probably in television history
01:38:16.140 not only the character but also the actor point being that i see other shows like the girls on
01:38:22.140 the bus a movie about four journalists following around more interesting people right but they're
01:38:28.720 all possessed by this idea that journalists are the truth tellers and they'll talk about
01:38:32.920 you know the new york times they'll talk about the washington post they'll talk about these
01:38:36.860 pillars of society that even if maybe they're corrupt now that at one point they were
01:38:44.380 all the news that's fit to print that's what the new york times would say um but it turns out that
01:38:50.620 journalists are full of shit and that was never the case and that's why we hate journalists because
01:38:54.060 anyone who knows anything knows that there was never a time when any journalist was anything
01:38:59.440 other than a paid talking head or a star fucking weirdo or just like a girl with a tape recorder
01:39:06.160 who's looking for gossip that's what it is and so i read this book um and it it's pretty interesting
01:39:14.760 it's called the gray lady winked how the new york times misreporting distortions and fabrications
01:39:22.500 radically alter history and it's written by an individual named ashley rinsburg you're in
01:39:30.040 rinsburg you're thinking jewish you're thinking oh no well i got news for you pal this is also
01:39:35.460 a man that wrote this this is a man named ashley so yeah you gotta get again you put put put your
01:39:43.960 fucking wedding shoes on for here we go um it's just it's it's gathering some instances going back
01:39:50.360 to like the the mid and early 20th century where the new york times you know the vanguard of truth
01:39:55.560 was shown to be outright lying uh at worst and even at best they're ideologically possessed
01:40:02.400 and choosing to put a good face on a bad story
01:40:05.120 or essentially push communism in the United States of America
01:40:08.620 as like one of the leading forces of communist apologia in America.
01:40:15.920 It is the pinnacle for journalists.
01:40:18.660 That's where they want to be.
01:40:19.840 It's where they want to spend their careers if they can.
01:40:23.180 And that, again, it's that level of influence that makes it truly unique,
01:40:28.940 that they're able to not just set the policy agenda,
01:40:31.620 set the news agenda, but they're essentially shaping reality. I mean, they are syndicated
01:40:38.620 and licensed to thousands of other news organizations around the globe, and they just
01:40:44.960 command that respect and power among the right people. But on the other side, the second part
01:40:51.800 of that is what this reveals as well. I mean, that's part of the cause, but what does this
01:40:57.360 show us and partly i think for me is that the new york times is really the template of um corporate
01:41:05.700 media in they they really had perfected that structure of news for profit that is controlled
01:41:15.480 by a single family it tries to open with some you know it did this to the right wing too it did this
01:41:21.340 to hitler the only example they had was like a misreporting it was when they thought hitler
01:41:26.880 wouldn't invade europe like a reporter had said that you know i have a feeling that he's not going
01:41:31.680 to invade poland and they were wrong about that but the rest of the book very clearly shows the
01:41:39.040 editorial bias towards promoting communist events or outright um involvement in communist revolutions
01:41:48.000 occasionally and really the reason i wanted to talk about this book is because i think it connects
01:41:53.200 to our previous discussion because at the heart of this revered
01:42:00.180 and respected agency, it's the exact same type of individuals
01:42:03.060 we're talking about.
01:42:04.240 It's people who are there for vibes.
01:42:06.260 It's people there because it's cool to work at the New York Times.
01:42:08.960 No one there really has any appreciation of this thing called the truth.
01:42:15.160 New York Times, as you know, Michael, it's not just a newspaper.
01:42:20.180 It is a symbol.
01:42:22.540 It's a symbol of the news industry, the news media.
01:42:27.480 It's a symbol of what we call the fourth estate in the U.S.
01:42:30.560 It's also disproportionately powerful.
01:42:34.780 It sets not only the news agenda, it sets the policy agenda.
01:42:39.840 The New York Times says it's true.
01:42:41.540 People consider it to be true, whatever it might be.
01:42:45.040 And that is in part because there's this ecosystem built around it
01:42:50.560 includes you know the pulitzer prize the new york times has won more pulitzer prizes than any other
01:42:56.080 newspaper by far there's almost twice as many as the next competitor and when it prints something
01:43:02.980 about the 1619 project which you alluded to people just accept it and that just becomes the
01:43:08.240 prevailing the prevailing narrative and then so we look at journalism and we're talking about you
01:43:15.220 know political activism in our space we're talking about the distant sphere but journalism represents
01:43:19.360 i think the worst and most mutated form of what we're talking about i just want to give some
01:43:25.060 people examples of how much the new york times fucking sucks and it's interesting that we bring
01:43:29.480 this up because you know the scene that we're talking about the dime square scene uh is
01:43:34.060 affiliated with curtis yarvin and curtis yarvin famously talked about the new york times as he
01:43:40.540 as the the leader the apex of the cathedral the cathedral as he describes it which is just
01:43:46.200 the consensus maker of america so that would be academia plus the respected press because
01:43:52.000 everyone knows like there's really only like four or five newspapers that matter news organizations
01:43:56.080 that matter in america new york times is one of them the new york times has the power to set the
01:44:02.340 the new national conversation they still do they did even more in the past but they fucking still
01:44:07.760 do and if you understand that they can be ideologically driven like they can sway elections
01:44:12.800 They can not so much now, but for a long time they could.
01:44:17.140 And what does it happen when it turns out that this one Jewish family at the head of it seems to like Castro, seems to like the Soviet Union, right?
01:44:26.540 So I'm just going to start reading some stuff here that I think is relevant.
01:44:32.720 For much of the 20th century, the Times was seen as a standard bearer of the truth.
01:44:37.420 It is because of this unique standing that the seven words that constitute the Times famous slogan, all the news that's fit to print, have been printed atop each day's edition since 1897 without irony or embarrassment.
01:44:50.940 But for many news consumers today, including some of the paper's most loyal readers, the picture of a truth bearing newspaper that went to the ends of the earth to bring readers the Underdome facts feels like a quaint relic from a bygone era.
01:45:03.600 Over the past years, the Times has increasingly become not only a point of political contention, but a flashpoint of scandal.
01:45:10.820 Now, this guy, he's a liberal.
01:45:13.260 You know, there's nothing about this Ashley fella that would be adjacent to the right or anything.
01:45:20.720 But, you know, I would say that there was no point in the New York Times history where it wasn't ideologically or agenda driven.
01:45:29.160 In fact, I don't think any newspaper in the history of newspapers has.
01:45:32.120 And everyone acknowledges that newspapers from their inception were just mouthpieces for power, mouthpieces for corrupt mayors or corporations or whoever the fuck anyone can start a newspaper.
01:45:44.520 Now, here's a quote says, to put it brutally, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
01:45:50.540 These were the words that Walter Durante, the New York Times correspondent in Russia during the early Soviet years, used to explain the devastating Ukrainian famine of the 1930s perpetuated by the government.
01:46:01.340 So this is like the New York Times' man on the ground in the Soviet Union saying, well, you've got to break an omelet.
01:46:08.800 You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.
01:46:11.600 Explaining the fucking, the holodomor.
01:46:15.940 Walter Durante is still today widely associated with journalistic malfeasance on account of his attempt to cover up the Ukrainian famine.
01:46:23.700 The 300-pound gorilla of a question that has gone unasked concerning Durante is why he would cover up a famine so severe that it would have been obvious to even a casual observer.
01:46:34.000 Walter Durante relied on extremely dubious, vague, and unnamed sources to report on one of the most consequential international stories of the decade.
01:46:42.400 I mean, whatever the motivation was, it can't be good.
01:46:47.120 The best I can think of that would make the most sense to me is status, right?
01:46:51.200 He was the dean of the Moscow Press Corps.
01:46:55.040 He was, you know, the big shot.
01:46:57.280 And basically, if it's revealed that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, as it was and as he admitted, it's like, well, then what good are you?
01:47:06.080 He was a journalistic superstar amongst the most famous reporters in America and possibly even the world.
01:47:12.560 Durante could not have achieved this fame without a huge platform that the Times provided him, which not only legitimized his opinions, but projected his voice on the international stage.
01:47:21.200 A globe-trotting, one-legged British writer known among journalists for his sexual philandering, openness to drugs, and the depth of his education.
01:47:30.220 So we still have those guys running around back then.
01:47:33.260 And here's why that matters.
01:47:35.200 So while Durante's meeting with President Roosevelt was won in a long chain of similar conferences, it was the meeting with Durante, the article claimed, that served to bring to the fore the report that the governor was contemplating in the event of being elected president a new policy towards the Soviet.
01:47:53.220 According to the Times, Durante, who had been awarded a Pulitzer Prize for his Russian reporting, mind you, just two months beforehand, had been brought in to make the case for a pro-Soviet shift in American-Russian relations.
01:48:04.800 So here's literally a pro-Soviet guy meeting with the president, given that platform, because he writes for the New York Times, literally dictating international policy.
01:48:15.840 That's the power that the Times would have.
01:48:18.920 Walter Durante is now largely considered a media outlier or an anomaly, a reporter whose character flaws slipped through the editorial cracks of the institution.
01:48:27.720 But the reality is that Durante fits a prominent pattern in the Times of a star reporter whose celebrity enables him or her to commit journalistic malfeasance in plain sight of his editors.
01:48:39.980 It was his Pulitzer Prize that inducted Walter Durante into a class of the New York Times elites, which gave the correspondent a virtual free pass that got even the most egregious news articles past the editors without so much as a quick glance.
01:48:53.980 um and he so walter durant he got in trouble for this they wanted to retract his pulitzer prize
01:49:01.360 now enters the new york times owner uh the salzburgers so new york times is owned by the
01:49:09.220 salzburger family i'm just going to leave that there i'm not going to say anything about that
01:49:14.180 um according to the times his own reporting the salzburgers wrote a cover letter to the
01:49:19.920 consultant's report uh recommended that they retract the pulitzer prize that was to be delivered
01:49:26.140 to the board of the newspaper salzberger argued in his cover letter the times had uh for more
01:49:31.740 than two years acknowledged the slovenly nature of his reporting um but they shouldn't need to
01:49:37.460 return the prize so it's like yes his reporting was fucking erroneous and you know catastrophic
01:49:45.180 but i don't think that i don't think we should have to return the prize
01:49:48.580 salzberger's first rationalization as to why the times should not return the pulitzer prize
01:49:55.320 was the outrageous excuse that the newspaper did not have the pulitzer prize and so couldn't return
01:50:00.180 it like we don't i don't i don't have it what do you mean you don't have any fucking asshole
01:50:05.200 the ox salzberger family that's what they're known as the ox salzberger's family which still
01:50:12.180 runs the New York Times today, is a mainstay of the left-leaning, educated, and generally
01:50:16.980 wealthy American intellectual elite that supported the Soviet experiment and its utopian aims
01:50:22.880 from the beginning.
01:50:24.200 Now, there's never going to be any mention in this book of Jewish this or that, but,
01:50:27.900 you know, let's just, again, leave that there for the listener to decide.
01:50:32.300 And it gets even worse.
01:50:33.780 So we now move on to another correspondent named Ella Winter.
01:50:37.120 Ella Winter, a communist agent in the United States, who was married to the notorious correspondent Lincoln Steffens, compared Russia's economic difficulties to a woman's birth pains.
01:50:50.760 Is the woman happy bearing the long-awaited child?
01:50:53.580 They're giving birth to a new world, a new world outlook.
01:50:56.760 And in this process, questions of personal gratification become secondary.
01:51:00.240 what the times may or may not have known was that winter was a communist agent handled by the
01:51:05.520 infinites will musenberg the man who helped direct global propaganda for the communist international
01:51:12.660 or com intern which was founded to spread the communist revolution to all corners of the world
01:51:18.440 so basically the new york times was staffing one uh communist you know agitator and also one
01:51:24.620 literal communist propaganda agent a glance at winter's obituary in the new york times in 1980
01:51:33.400 further underscores the point the obituary makes no mention of her political background
01:51:38.080 but writes her simply as an interpreter of economic changes the idea that winter was a
01:51:43.400 neutral observer points to the somewhat disturbing fact that the times ownership and management
01:51:47.900 was an ideological lockstep with a Soviet propaganda operative.
01:51:53.140 George Bernard Shaw, Ella Winter, and maybe more than any single person,
01:51:56.340 Walter Durante, were opinion makers when it came to the topic of Soviet Russia.
01:52:03.440 Moving on to Fidel Castro as another example,
01:52:05.960 we're moving to another journalist named Matthews.
01:52:09.240 Despite Matthews' colorful background,
01:52:11.680 it was an act of journalistic integrity and intrepidness
01:52:14.600 for the times reporter then nearing 60 to trek into the sierra maestra mountains in search of
01:52:20.480 rebel leader castro in 1957 matthews had championed the idea that castro was a pro-democracy and
01:52:27.940 therefore anti-communist um which proved not to be true at all but that was just to like launder
01:52:34.220 castro's image to americans too so for people who are curious who who are just unpacking that in
01:52:41.360 mind there was a time when fidel castro was sold to america as anti-communist um his name is
01:52:48.160 herbert matthews herbert matthews had launched castro not only was he favorable he launched
01:52:53.020 castro onto the world stage in 1957 instead of investigative reporting on the cuban rebel group
01:52:59.660 or a careful and critical analysis of the group's origins matthews in the new york times printed
01:53:04.360 romantic stories of the rebels and their youthful vision of a liberated and democratic cuba matthews
01:53:10.600 flowery descriptions of castor's movement as a movement of the people of the youth of the economic
01:53:15.600 classes and most importantly of democracy traveled around the world so he's making a case and i think
01:53:22.420 this is true that there would be no like cuban revolution without the new york times like
01:53:29.040 projecting that to the entire world as something that is of global interest and they did this with
01:53:34.760 Soviet regimes around the world, or rather communist regimes around the world, but all
01:53:40.000 in one way or another connected to the Soviet Union.
01:53:43.340 And not only that, the New York Times took the extra step of like hosting Castro in New
01:53:48.000 York.
01:53:49.220 Castro had not come to New York just to bask in glory.
01:53:52.080 The newly installed Cuban leader was so grateful for what the Times had done for him that he
01:53:56.880 felt it incumbent to show his appreciation and to do so in person.
01:54:01.200 on april 21st 1959 castro strode into the new york times building where he was greeted by a few
01:54:07.940 very important people one of them was was arthur salzberger the publisher of the newspaper and head
01:54:13.480 of the family i mean like really like if you're trying to make a case that the new york times is
01:54:18.420 not ideologically tilted you know like anyone who says that to you is is just ignorant or they're
01:54:27.160 just communists themselves um there's another interesting case of this a reporter named
01:54:33.160 halberstram a very very good name for a very very bad guy who is the who is the report of the man
01:54:39.320 on the ground in vietnam during the vietnam war um two guys named halberstram and sheehan
01:54:45.400 they the claims that they were directly involved in the coup d'etat in vietnam it says here the
01:54:50.040 involvement of halberstram and sheehan in the coup d'etat was not just direct it was also explicit
01:54:55.160 The journalists themselves, if not boasting, spoke confidently about their role in overthrowing the Diem government in their later articles and books.
01:55:04.300 One of Halberstram's earlier Times articles, titled Diem Regime Under Fire, presented a narrative of boiling discontent of the government on behalf of the Vietnamese people.
01:55:14.600 There's some other cases in here that he mentions that are kind of interesting.
01:55:17.520 the one that takes
01:55:20.220 into the US government
01:55:21.180 was that the times
01:55:22.340 for one reason or another
01:55:24.000 was trying to cover up
01:55:25.920 during when the nuclear bombs
01:55:27.680 were being tested
01:55:28.360 originally
01:55:29.060 and after they were dropped
01:55:31.220 in Hiroshima and Nagasaki
01:55:32.420 they were trying to cover up
01:55:34.020 that there was radiation
01:55:34.880 sickness involved
01:55:36.200 and there was a couple
01:55:37.700 reporters involved in that
01:55:39.420 the main guy was named
01:55:42.020 William H. Lawrence
01:55:43.220 so there were stories
01:55:44.580 coming out of Hiroshima
01:55:45.500 and Nagasaki
01:55:46.080 that even after the bombs
01:55:47.200 dropped there was all these people dying and they didn't know why and there were some rumors that
01:55:51.120 there was radiation involved but the u.s wanted to suppress that because they still wanted to
01:55:56.060 research more about these bombs and people got wind that you know it was causing people to get
01:56:01.100 cancer and all these weird diseases no one would like the public would turn against research in
01:56:06.980 the atomic bombs entirely but you know so there's a case made here that these journalists were
01:56:13.180 actually trying to you know dismiss these reports uh on behalf of the u.s government i think there's
01:56:20.520 there's a good enough case made in that story in this book rather as this book is shown the new
01:56:25.800 york times has a disturbing history of keeping quiet about major world changing errors lies and
01:56:31.220 fabrications that have been made in its pages the proverbial moose has often too often gone unnoticed
01:56:38.120 but on occasion the moose comes rampaging through the glass facade of the times building on eight
01:56:43.100 avenue this is exactly what happened in 2003 when a junior staff reporter named jason blair resigned
01:56:49.720 from the paper by that point blair had lied fabricated and plagiarized and committed just
01:56:54.980 about every other conceivable journalistic sin during his short career at the new york times
01:56:59.940 and it was at that moment that a series of articles by a highly regarded veteran times
01:57:04.840 reporter named juth miller concerning the presence of weapons of mass destruction in iraq
01:57:08.520 started unraveling the Jason Blair debacle became shorthand for all the shortcomings of the news
01:57:15.980 business because it happened at the New York Times because there were so many stories involved
01:57:20.180 this became an explosion it began as a reporting scandal and then quickly turned into a near
01:57:26.920 mutiny by the staff the New York Times is calling it a huge black eye was the paper too eager to
01:57:32.500 promote an appealing young black voice it became about race because a black person was involved a
01:57:37.660 black person cannot be involved in anything without it being about race jason blair who
01:57:44.220 very clearly was plagiarizing just making up articles making up news stories and says here
01:57:49.440 a series of articles on the devastating effects of the war in iraq uh came relentless with
01:57:56.080 relentless consistency he was publishing articles on april 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 11th 15th like it's
01:58:02.580 actually impossible for him to have like reported from all these places he would be like running
01:58:07.860 around hundreds and hundreds of miles like writing as he's in a plane basically he was just very
01:58:12.980 clearly faking articles about the iraq war which is actually something that happened to the new
01:58:18.020 york times a lot like they they loved the idea of they there was no atrocity or massacre that the
01:58:26.020 new york times wouldn't put on his front page even if it was clearly fabricated
01:58:30.980 oddly the management at the times did not find the physics defying pace unusual or if they did
01:58:37.460 no one did anything about it on the contrary blair's story has gotten more and more play with
01:58:42.000 two of them making the front page of the times the problem was that virtually all of blair's
01:58:47.820 reporting up from the period was fraudulent either plagiarized embellished or completely
01:58:51.920 fabricated rather it was a reporter from the different newspaper uh who realized blair had
01:58:57.120 plagiarized significant pieces of his own stories um there's also a couple of series they ran i
01:59:04.180 don't know people remember this there was this uh series on the iraq war titled the women's war
01:59:09.620 that they were publishing in 2007 on uh the the the special the unique impacts that being a female
01:59:18.160 soldier has they interviewed
01:59:20.280 some female soldiers all of it made up
01:59:22.380 all of it bullshit they were just
01:59:24.220 making up stories about how these
01:59:26.100 women were raped in the military never
01:59:27.980 fucking happened
01:59:28.720 there's another series they had called
01:59:33.860 war tour and about American combat soldiers
01:59:35.940 coming home from the war in Afghanistan
01:59:37.760 the time zone description of this
01:59:40.020 series made no bones about what it was to be
01:59:41.960 about a series of articles in multimedia
01:59:44.300 about veterans wars in Iraq
01:59:46.180 and Afghanistan who have been
01:59:47.940 who have committed killings or been charged with them the article provides some horrifying
01:59:52.360 statistics more than 50 of the killings involved guns um while the others were stabbed like
01:59:58.940 basically they're trying to make a case that soldiers who commit violence in a war zone come
02:00:04.520 home and commit violence at home which is actually a statistic that i think a lot of people would
02:00:10.000 probably agree with right there's trauma you come home and turns out it's all fucking fake
02:00:15.280 it's not real there's this and i think that even persists in a lot of our culture that these these
02:00:22.400 soldiers are just ticking time bombs where they shoot their family it the way they they started
02:00:27.940 measuring the quote-unquote violence some of it was even self-defense like oh these soldiers they
02:00:33.940 come home and they get involved in all this gun crime and like they started looking at the cases
02:00:39.220 of gun crime it's like well a third of these are actually self-defense like they're fighting off
02:00:43.100 muggings and shit and but like they want to tell a story where this war is making ticking time
02:00:50.480 bombs back home it's just it wasn't fucking true at all and i don't have the statistics in front
02:00:56.340 of me but i'd be willing to bet that a lot of these a lot of our understanding of how like the
02:01:01.500 idea that ptsd makes serial killers or makes ticking time bombs i bet that's not true i bet
02:01:08.200 like even if you kill kill an enemy combatant it doesn't make you more likely to shoot your
02:01:13.260 fucking family i i don't think it is like that's just my gut feeling i don't have this
02:01:17.880 the stats in front of me but i think that's just a bunch of horse shit cooked up by the salzburgers
02:01:24.180 it says here uh things still deteriorated taking a look a list at some of the veterans including
02:01:32.200 in the times of peace we see that many of these men did not commit violent crimes at all and that
02:01:36.540 The violent crimes of the others had very little, if anything, to do with having been in a war.
02:01:40.960 For example, one former soldier on the list, Brian Epting, was convicted of vehicular homicide.
02:01:46.200 His crime, he lost control of his car while drag racing and ended up hitting a man who was killed by the impact.
02:01:52.280 So it's like, oh yeah, but that's because of the PTSD.
02:01:55.380 No, he's just a fucking moron who likes to drag race.
02:01:57.840 we have seen that time and time again from the soviet russia to castro's cuba to the holocaust
02:02:05.780 to the atomic bombs in japan that when the top power structures of the new york times got involved
02:02:10.600 in a story the story got blown out in the worst possible way in the case of america's wars
02:02:16.220 especially the war in iraq the then publisher of the paper and chairman of the new york times
02:02:20.860 company made no attempt to hide or dilute his opinion about america's wars so strongly did
02:02:26.420 arthur salzberger jr fueled that the situation that he was compelled to personally apologize
02:02:31.640 for america's involvement in these wars to a group of college graduates in 2006
02:02:36.320 this all leads up to probably the most notorious thing that the new york times has ever done
02:02:42.900 in august 14 2019 the new york times launched one of its most ambitious and far-reaching initiatives
02:02:50.060 in the history of the paper
02:02:51.920 called the 1619 Project.
02:02:55.140 This endeavor encompassed
02:02:56.520 the entire hundred pages
02:02:58.160 of the New York Times Sunday magazine,
02:03:00.320 spending tens of thousands of words
02:03:02.160 and dozens of photos
02:03:04.260 devoted to a single topic.
02:03:06.700 Its stated aim,
02:03:08.480 the stated aim of the 1619 Project
02:03:10.680 was to, quote,
02:03:11.920 reframe the country's history
02:03:13.460 by placing the consequences of slavery
02:03:15.620 and the contributions of Black Americans
02:03:17.700 at the very center
02:03:19.180 of the historical narrative you are calling for reparations what is the total that would be owed
02:03:25.580 14 trillion dollars that's a big number yeah big debt though it is a big debt we are still fighting
02:03:31.300 as long as there's life we're gonna have hope when i hear fog i hear freedom there are centuries
02:03:39.860 in that music centuries in that spirit the 1619 project it's not a history it really is talking
02:03:50.360 about america today black americans contributions are undeniable no people had a greater claim to
02:03:59.120 the american flag than we do this fully explains the seemingly cryptic opening statement of the
02:04:05.780 main essay in the magazine which states our founding ideals of liberty and equality were
02:04:10.800 false when they were written it's this precise it's precisely this subversion of history that
02:04:16.180 the times had in mind when it declared its intent to reframe the history of the united states while
02:04:22.140 the claims were so far from the mainstream dialogue in american history so nearly unimaginable to most
02:04:27.200 times readers the ideas were presented not as theory or hypothesis but hard fact so i guess
02:04:32.500 that that really is the culmination of the entire history of the times and again guys like ashley
02:04:37.960 will say that you know this was just uh an evolution i'm like no from the very fucking
02:04:44.500 beginning of the new times it's like they were they were stupid they were careless or they're
02:04:49.100 ideologically tilted it sounds like for the majority of the new york times history they have
02:04:55.000 been flirtatious or outright you know advocating for communism that that seems and that to me
02:05:02.440 that culminates in the 1619 project that's another fucking marxist jewish piece of fucking
02:05:09.000 revisionist history that's specifically rolled out to make white people feel bad about themselves
02:05:15.280 there's no there's there's no truth and the fact that they've departed from the truth they were
02:05:21.460 never part of the truth they never had an interest in the truth they had interest in telling a
02:05:25.740 fucking story like john stewart like all the late night guys like everyone there is no individual
02:05:31.820 in this entire journalistic ecosystem
02:05:34.920 that gives a shit about the truth.
02:05:37.960 That's why people hate journalists.
02:05:40.000 That's why they've always hated journalists.
02:05:42.360 And what journalists love doing
02:05:43.640 is telling stories about themselves.
02:05:46.640 And it's so fucking loathsome.
02:05:48.300 And these are the types of people
02:05:49.360 that we have in our spaces.
02:05:51.320 The people who are only there for prestige.
02:05:53.540 If anyone is there for any reason,
02:05:56.100 it's to be manipulative,
02:05:57.680 to use this as a force amplifier
02:05:59.860 for their own priors,
02:06:01.820 for their own agenda that's all journalism is it should be the truth truth has never been a part
02:06:07.740 of it just like you know these spaces that we're talking about they're force amplifiers for these
02:06:13.080 people's twisted fucking priors anyway and it's and then when journalists get invited to them
02:06:19.580 you know they get chewed up and spat out but you're all the same motherfuckers
02:06:23.580 there's no difference between the people at these like vibe parties and the journalists that they
02:06:30.120 mock you know why they hate journalists because it's cool to be journalists i've been hating
02:06:34.780 journalists for a long fucking time we both have never liked them never liked them was not a day
02:06:39.720 that i ever liked journalists the bloods they know they've been hating journalists since before it was
02:06:45.580 cool in the period of your life when you were a journalist i hated you i i did work for i worked
02:06:54.140 for like a small paper i worked and you did and at that time were you an eye on speaking terms
02:06:59.500 i think no we weren't we were not we we weren't talking to each other for like two years we're
02:07:03.760 having a big fight i think this was after that no i'm the way i remember it is because you were
02:07:08.900 a journalist the way this is our own little 1619 project
02:07:14.880 but maybe because i wasn't you would have been no you would have been in hong kong by then too
02:07:22.280 yeah yeah no i don't it's the dates are all wrong it was i did work for a uh briefly for a local
02:07:29.240 newspaper and i was like a reporter i would go to events and write the stories the interviews
02:07:33.640 obviously we're not talking about people at local papers i was going to say about the meme that
02:07:38.320 newspapers have always been in search of truth and this is just an aberration the whole thing
02:07:43.200 with media is the extent to which it has power over people's decision making is the extent to
02:07:51.340 which it will be corrupted at all times so the reason new york times is especially corrupt is
02:07:56.580 because it's especially well read and broad right local papers are really they're probably a little
02:08:01.400 bit corrupt but you there nobody is willing to throw millions of dollars at corrupting a local
02:08:05.860 paper because there's no readership so it doesn't matter right it's inconsequential and for that
02:08:11.400 reason you can have local papers that are going to have honest reporting or at the very least
02:08:16.160 there are the most the bias would just be the bias of the reporter because he doesn't like this one
02:08:20.640 guy or something the funny thing is the thing i was doing in my charge as a reporter was the thing
02:08:25.620 that journalists hate doing which was just getting the who what where when why and how like well like
02:08:31.300 reporting yeah which is like i go to i went to the fair and there was a horse and the mayor showed up
02:08:37.780 and he said what a great fair this is it was sunny um everyone had a good time uh this reporter had
02:08:45.940 some cotton candy yeah but didn't have enough room for the funnel cake i read the county paper where
02:08:52.700 i am now and i actually like it it's all it's all online now like we don't get the paper version but
02:08:56.700 i actually read it and it's like oh that's neat oh i i was i'm sorry i missed that i wish i had
02:09:01.900 gone to the to the fair last weekend that looks like fun yeah what what a journalist would do
02:09:07.160 let's take the eclipse that just occurred as a reporter like me would say like hey eclipse
02:09:12.580 happened an eclipse is when uh the the moon goes over the sun and you're not supposed to look at
02:09:20.220 it and no one did because there's been no reports of anyone going blind so everyone had a good time
02:09:26.420 at the eclipse whereas like a journalist would say like yeah but what does that have to do
02:09:30.640 with like uh satanism black bodies what does that have to do with black bodies
02:09:35.560 who were where the glass is given out to more white people than black what's that about what's
02:09:41.360 what's the distribution of the glass like you start with like a deconstructive mindset that
02:09:47.160 you want to use this as something you could wield against society.
02:09:50.420 You start with the agenda, but no one likes reporting.
02:09:52.480 No one likes just going to an event and saying what happened at the event.
02:09:57.300 But that's like the truest form of, if not truth telling,
02:10:01.800 then fact reporting, you know, because, you know, any,
02:10:06.420 that's the type of news you want to see.
02:10:07.560 You want to open a paper and a lot of people having a good time.
02:10:11.720 There's a story about a guy whose dog was caught under a tractor,
02:10:17.540 and he lifted up the tractor, and the dog survived.
02:10:20.200 And the dog's fine.
02:10:21.240 That's a great story.
02:10:23.120 That's a great story.
02:10:24.480 You genuinely love to see it.
02:10:26.800 You set your watch to that story.
02:10:29.320 That story caused several births.
02:10:33.340 That caused a lot of women got pregnant to that story.
02:10:40.800 How many people got fucking pregnant to that article we did?
02:10:45.180 I went to the Praxis party.
02:10:48.500 That nullified gallons of semen, for those who read it.
02:10:54.200 That got a lot of guys pregnant.
02:10:56.040 You don't want to be fucking.
02:10:57.240 How many men got pregnant reading that fucking story?
02:11:01.460 Guilty.
02:11:04.500 Jesus.
02:11:05.960 What a great way to end the show.
02:11:07.400 Okay.
02:11:07.680 i hope people like that one all right i'll i'll talk to you later yeah man see you later
02:11:14.100 so this is how much of a professional podcaster i am dimes and i've been talking for like 15
02:11:35.560 minutes and i realized i hadn't pressed the stream go live on the stream button you're so
02:11:40.800 funny like i was saying what i thought were pretty good jokes amazing points and i'm looking over at
02:11:47.820 the chat and i'm like nervously i'm like am i bombing this isn't going well at all
02:11:53.360 ladies and gentlemen and i'm sure welcome to the podcast of the channel uh at the end of the day
02:12:01.700 is the show i am your host jason marinchuk i am joined today again dimes this is like deja vu
02:12:09.060 uh with mr dimes from the blood satellite podcast hey say hello dimes hey i'm trying like i we
02:12:17.500 literally were doing the show for like 15 minutes and then i'm looking at then it was cooper you
02:12:25.280 know i can yeah when my guys are here stirring the pot and he's like 15 minutes i'm like oh shit
02:12:31.040 oh well you missed you missed out kids uh but that's all right we were we were getting a good
02:12:39.380 stretch on um where were we um well i mean you were asking me if you want me to uh answer the
02:12:46.900 question i can make it shorter this time about like what red pill do um hey dimes what radicalized
02:12:53.160 you well what i was saying before is i was just interestingly enough thinking about this earlier
02:12:58.720 today. I don't know why, but, uh, I was thinking about the entire, the idea of someone being
02:13:03.960 entirely radicalized or red pilled and stepping outside of the status quo entirely. Cause most
02:13:09.040 people don't, most people are really just radicalized on a couple of things. Um, and
02:13:14.340 they might be very, very radicalized on like one or two things. Um, but I think it's tied to like
02:13:19.220 where you grew up and when you grew up. So for me in Canada, I'm in my mid thirties, you know,
02:13:25.520 interestingly enough you know i would have grown up in a time when you would have seen liberals
02:13:30.360 more comfortable saying slurs and even like my friend thomas 77 might point out it's like you
02:13:35.980 would see rock stars pop stars playing around with swastikas and things like that so you never it was
02:13:40.600 always blurred where the line is on what was acceptable and that was just seen as rebellious
02:13:46.060 but i think the thing that might have radicalized me you had made you'd mentioned something there
02:13:50.440 maybe we'll get to this again um you mentioned steven harper and i remember uh back when steven
02:13:56.060 harper was prime minister of canada there was this big controversy where he had used the phrase
02:14:01.660 old stock canadians um trying to sort of dog whistle i guess but everyone got really pissed
02:14:08.020 off about him using that phrase old stock canadians like well what do you mean by that oh you mean
02:14:12.660 white people right but like to me at the time i never really witnessed that within my context
02:14:18.760 well obviously there's there are people probably english and french who can trace their lineage
02:14:25.820 back 10 generations like yeah like those people exist are you denying they exist and then that
02:14:32.140 was sort of the first domino where everything kind of got crazy after that um but that would
02:14:36.880 have been a long long time ago like pre-obama pre a lot of that shit yeah it was like 2014
02:14:42.800 was trudeau's election i remember because i i was i actually i voted for trudeau i was pushing for
02:14:48.380 um you know first gen x prime minister yada yada yada and stephen harper was a creepy day manager
02:14:54.080 so uh so i was like no we got to get rid of this guy and put put fresh hotness in and i wasn't even
02:15:01.380 a pot smoker so like the pot the pot thing didn't like it enthralled me and then i figured he's
02:15:08.340 going to be his dad helped write the charter all that stuff he's going to be a defender of the
02:15:11.820 charter back when that mattered and our magic piece of paper um and then he just shit all over
02:15:19.140 it with bill c16 and it was around that time too that i was like starting to see i think it was the
02:15:25.600 harvard thing remember remember the harvard it was a a kerfuffle at harvard over like halloween
02:15:32.260 costumes and there was this there's a video of the time with like this young um uh college age kid
02:15:40.040 uh yelling at the dean or whoever the hell he was like some like higher up uh telling him that
02:15:47.960 no this place is gonna be like it's supposed to be a home you're making this an unsafe home and
02:15:52.440 she's just having this freaking meltdown over some someone wearing like a native head headdress
02:15:59.220 thing oh yeah yeah or something like that and i remember seeing that and talking to my my my now
02:16:04.540 ex-friend emily um about it because she was going to university at the time and i was like what the
02:16:10.340 hell is going on with this like is this going on in the university is like what's happening
02:16:13.720 and she's like oh yeah no don't worry about it it's it's you know it's marginal and then
02:16:19.360 flash forward like literally a month and a half later and she's like talking about in the patriarchy
02:16:24.480 and like um how meritocracy is like uh is bad i'm like what the fuck are you talking about
02:16:32.820 quick and even within my own family and i'm trying to date myself here but i saw like back
02:16:41.540 i talk about back in the day it ain't back in the day but like pre-tumblr because tumblr was what
02:16:47.780 kind of gave birth to the social justice warrior that whole thing gamergate and all that but even
02:16:52.160 before that i saw that percolating with members in my family where like one day they were getting
02:16:58.140 really into aboriginal art and they started using words like patriarchy almost or was cool and i
02:17:05.140 was paying attention to where they're getting it from because it was coming through their
02:17:08.420 yes the old aboriginal art to to progressive pipeline like yeah because first of all all
02:17:14.620 you know i'm gonna i'm gonna dream catcher you get a dream catcher and then all of a sudden you're
02:17:19.000 like going to gay clubs and like going well i hear these glory holes are great like it's just it's
02:17:24.520 almost that that's just like the canadian way you know they were originally invented for a totem
02:17:31.480 pole it was ceremonial you could just that's the thing that's what'd be so great about being those
02:17:36.440 people you can just make shit up and then no one no one knows anything about aboriginals they say
02:17:41.220 yeah probably like they're like that whole two spirit thing is hilarious so people don't know
02:17:47.520 in canada you got the lgbtq all that stuff but then there's also this thing that's i've done
02:17:53.100 my research is essentially made up which is called two spirit which is they they read some old books
02:17:58.900 because no aboriginal tribes had any written language until well they had phonetic language
02:18:04.980 invented by the uh settlers in the late 1800s but they they said oh they there's oral history of
02:18:11.560 this thing called two spirit which was like oh they're very oral kind of exactly no like where's
02:18:18.660 the oral history on like how they had sex no one no one's asking those questions no one will fund
02:18:24.820 my shit but then you know they two-spirit became this thing it's like oh they were the original
02:18:31.860 trans people and now in canada two-spirit comes first so it's two s lgbt which is which is so
02:18:38.900 canadian right because it's like you have to differentiate yourselves from from being americans
02:18:43.440 are like oh no the the americans are lgbtq blah blah blah no no no in canada it's it's t-s right
02:18:50.280 is it is a t-s or two the number two s two right and i gotta deal with that every day where there's
02:18:56.280 people out there legitimate people saying you know canada pioneered gayness and i have to be like
02:19:02.120 shut up well no but that's true we did we pioneered it we are freaking gay we are the gayest
02:19:11.120 we are the gayest of the gays like i live in australia now i'm a canadian living in australia
02:19:16.480 uh australians aren't gay they're stupid but they're not gay like they're just like
02:19:21.240 they're they're herd animals like you could literally distract them with something shiny
02:19:25.940 they're like we have magpies here yeah spirit animals like they're just like
02:19:30.080 it's i've told the story with matt erickson before but like if you're walking so in australia
02:19:38.060 everyone walks okay so if you're going forward to some destination you walk on the left
02:19:42.980 right so like you know it's like you drive on the left everything's on the left
02:19:47.080 on one on one end or the other right if you're walking in australia just like on the sidewalk
02:19:53.100 and you happen to stray into the right hand lane on the sidewalk and someone's coming towards you
02:19:58.580 they don't know what to do there are no improv groups in australia they get stunned they're
02:20:03.840 like and there's like so imagine so imagine the scenario i'm trying to paint the picture right
02:20:08.140 here's a sidewalk here so there's a left-hand side and a right-hand side here's me right on
02:20:14.520 the right-hand side here's someone coming over here and they just look at you like
02:20:17.860 what are you what are you doing like you could walk around me like imagine being in a field
02:20:24.800 right and you're like but there's what it was funny this reminds me of a story that i think
02:20:31.320 about all the time and it didn't happen to me it happened to a co-worker one of the agencies i
02:20:35.180 worked at but he was a bit of a older guy like a gen xer um at the time i was i was younger than
02:20:41.140 him um but then he um telling a story kind of a smaller guy very industrial dressed like an
02:20:46.900 industrial guy like the lead singer of health if anyone knows that anyway he's telling a story
02:20:51.080 where he's just having a rotten day pissed off he's walking down the street and it's just just
02:20:56.580 him like at night no one else is around there's this other guy walking towards him on the street
02:21:00.820 and they got caught in a classic guy moment where like none of them were neither we're going to
02:21:05.520 move and they could just tell from the stance and positioning these just like walking towards him
02:21:09.960 he's like you know what i'm not going to fucking move either i'm taking a stand for myself today
02:21:14.300 right and then they just kept going towards each other didn't move and it just ended with them
02:21:19.320 standing in front of each other just staring at each other silently like like that had never
02:21:25.400 happened socially before like your operating system doesn't know what to do do they just
02:21:29.940 start making out that's that's the only anything could happen just like maybe they start making
02:21:37.920 out maybe they go and they find someone else to make out with together like you don't know
02:21:41.240 no one wrote a script for that they go find a native person like two spirits yeah let's
02:21:47.000 introduce this two spirit thing like i'm i'm making out with the girl half no i'm making out
02:21:53.060 with the girl half i'm the catcher no i'm the catcher i'm the pitcher i'm the catcher the old
02:22:00.600 abbott and costello routine now you made a good point there about australia not being gay which
02:22:05.500 is difficult because one of the larger and i mean pun intended cultural exports was hannah gadsby
02:22:13.000 the comedian who did Nanette
02:22:16.400 if you recall that
02:22:17.820 lesbians Nanette
02:22:20.300 right
02:22:20.600 so what a fun time
02:22:24.340 that was I watched about
02:22:26.160 15 minutes and I was like I got better shit to do
02:22:28.360 with my life like I don't need
02:22:30.400 to hear this woman do
02:22:32.140 15 minutes of hate
02:22:33.600 and call it a comedy special
02:22:36.200 this is like spoken word
02:22:37.720 I don't know if you because you're in your mid 30s
02:22:39.980 so I don't know if you experience this so much
02:22:42.340 but back in the
02:22:44.800 90s
02:22:46.080 there was like a
02:22:48.980 resurgence or a renaissance
02:22:50.960 perhaps of
02:22:52.860 spoken word of slam poetry
02:22:54.900 all that stuff right
02:22:55.800 I went to those
02:22:58.640 yeah so did I
02:23:00.060 I got the scars from that shit
02:23:02.200 even to the point where like
02:23:04.640 spoken word albums
02:23:06.800 were big Henry Rollins
02:23:08.320 had a bunch of spoken word
02:23:10.280 which were like part
02:23:12.340 comedy special part him just ranting uh it was a creep if people want to have just a straight up
02:23:18.800 rotten evening go look at that go look up at like henry rollins complaining about electronic music
02:23:24.740 for like an hour and a half it's so fucking bad but the packed theater yes
02:23:32.760 i'm not doing songs anymore i'm doing rants
02:23:37.300 i miss when henry rollins was relevant do you remember his like his um uh tv show
02:23:46.880 that was like i i don't know how long it went for but part of it was him typing on a typewriter
02:23:53.780 like hate mail to like open letter like dear cbc i hate you for all those you know what's funny
02:24:01.260 like i bet henry rollins deep in his soul thought he could be what joe rogan is now right he was
02:24:08.920 going to be tough guy counterculture guy believe in sort of outside the mainstream stuff and now
02:24:16.040 he's who the fuck gives a fucking head he looks way too cool to be a guy that lame
02:24:20.520 and everyone figured it out no one's excited to see henry rollins at all anymore where is he
02:24:25.660 right yeah well i think he was the last time i saw him he was on rogan and talking about how he
02:24:32.160 just like occasion just picks up destination on the map and goes there and like goes lives there
02:24:38.780 for a bit i'm like cool um i still like black flag uh is are you making more albums like
02:24:48.160 what do you like it's weird when he's a guy who goes on vacations professionally and wants to
02:24:53.560 make it sound like a fucking ayahuasca trip no you just you just went to brisbane asshole
02:24:59.280 it like he's a guy he has to live his life as a guy who looks like a marine and is just the
02:25:06.320 biggest pussy you've ever met because he's he's he's there in phuket having like you know uh
02:25:13.900 street meat and like and and and writing his little yelp review like really have you
02:25:18.480 you gotten this gay have you like oh okay um yeah those tats are sagging man like uh
02:25:25.700 but i remember i mean i remember uh what was it henry rollins had that one album which is
02:25:31.840 a complete banger um like i'm not that guy and uh it was i think it was his second or first or
02:25:39.340 second uh solo album after after black flag and it was like it was everywhere for a bit
02:25:46.740 like he was super relevant but he was he was relevant at the same in the same time as annie
02:25:51.360 defranco so it was a weird time you know like it's like you had like these two dichotomies
02:25:56.160 hyper queer uh like little fest person and and henry rolls i was listening to both of them at
02:26:06.760 the same time yeah it's kind of a it's kind of a weird thing that you had this archetype of the
02:26:11.880 rebellious lib and you have people trying to do that still bill maher would be a guy who desperately
02:26:19.160 wants to still be a rebellious lib and i remember when that show was relevant i remember when um
02:26:24.440 his first uh was it uh i forget what it was called um the one he got canceled for for uh
02:26:32.400 after his uh his comment about uh the terrorists on in uh for uh 2000 2001 why is my brain not
02:26:41.420 working uh he's good dimes talk 2001 was a great time because i was really really into you know
02:26:48.280 old howard stern old opian anthu we were talking about this before the show right and uh if you
02:26:54.160 didn't live through the few years immediately after 9-11 you were really missing out because
02:27:00.320 you saw some people say some wild shit now it wasn't what some people claim it was like a muslim
02:27:05.840 hate fest it really wasn't i remember it in fact people went out of their way not to hate muslim
02:27:11.400 and you probably haven't seen many movies where Muslims
02:27:13.880 or even the bad guys after that.
02:27:16.000 The closest you might get is something like
02:27:17.800 Homeland, but then they go out of the way to
02:27:19.700 explain it that way.
02:27:21.680 But you did see a lot of liberal
02:27:23.680 comedians kind of lose their mind
02:27:25.660 around that time.
02:27:27.700 I was watching, there's this show I loved
02:27:29.420 hosted by Colin Quinn called Tough Crowd.
02:27:31.980 Yes, Tough Crowd.
02:27:33.760 If anyone was an Opie and Anthony fan, you had
02:27:35.760 early Bill Burr, early Louis C.K.,
02:27:38.480 Patrice O'Neill, all those
02:27:40.140 guys that people still talk about now but it was just like colin quinn and it was all 9-11 shit
02:27:44.760 you can find i used to watch this shit all the time because you can find it on youtube
02:27:48.160 and there's commercials from like 2005 so you get the full retarded millennial experience i don't
02:27:56.000 know if i can curse that much on here i apologize oh you can swear swear like a sailor it's like
02:28:01.160 i think it passed the first like 30 seconds and then youtube saw with it i don't know
02:28:06.600 got him i've decided um i've decided to like not worry about youtube yeah but yeah tough crowd i
02:28:16.240 love and a lot of it still holds up early like mark maron was still not great back then so you
02:28:21.880 can see him you can see all these comedians who just didn't get better since then too so if you're
02:28:25.860 into that shit let's talk about mark maron for a second what the fuck is how is that guy a guy
02:28:30.900 how is a guy a thing i've never understood it like you know he's he's kind of like um who was
02:28:36.360 community who just passed away um who's jewish but his whole thing was being a nebby jew and like
02:28:42.360 i'm depressed and i'm always like yada yada yeah um i forget his name it'll come to me but he just
02:28:49.320 mark baron was like the the model of of that and i've never understood him i've never like
02:28:57.640 in terms like i get his comedy but it's not comedy it's just like him talking about boring about i'm
02:29:04.920 I'm dating a younger girl now.
02:29:06.180 I'm like, of course you are.
02:29:07.240 You're in your mid-40s and you're Jewish and you're living in California.
02:29:12.500 Of course you are.
02:29:13.120 I'm dating a younger girl now, of course, and my cats.
02:29:17.680 Like, that's it.
02:29:18.220 That's everything different.
02:29:20.020 But here's the thing.
02:29:20.920 So he epitomized a type of entertainer that I really think is falling out of fashion.
02:29:26.820 I'm taking a big swing here, but I'm going to do it anyway.
02:29:29.980 So I think sort of the confessional comedian has fallen out of favor.
02:29:33.880 and he actually kind of saw that fall out of favor with anthony jeselnik like he like a lot of like
02:29:37.740 the one two punch punchline guys came back but mark maron was the louis ck was this early on too
02:29:43.900 and kind of still is but getting up there and just like drama dumping or whatever it might be
02:29:49.340 and then i i don't think that plays as well anymore partly because comedy is too big and
02:29:57.280 it needs to collapse soon and these comedians need to go away into a grave that's there's too
02:30:04.120 many podcasts too many comedians with too many fucking shit coins that they're running right
02:30:08.840 but uh like he was this like archetype and he that was what got him into his podcast was it's
02:30:14.220 him in front of a mic complaining about his life not going well and there was a time people forget
02:30:22.760 there's a time when that was a new type of thing you didn't see a lot of that hearing someone just
02:30:28.600 confess and be open about like my career is not going well dan harman was big on that the creator
02:30:34.500 of uh rick and morty we're going off this is not intended what i intended to talk about at all but
02:30:39.420 i could go off on this shit for like hours too if you need to but like i go richard under dan harman
02:30:44.000 richard lewis uh was a thank you thank you book uh richard lewis is the community i was thinking
02:30:49.700 about that it was sort of the proto mark maron where um uh yeah all he did was kvash like he
02:30:56.340 was just by the way i'm i'm i'm i'm taking yiddish as i'm claiming it as a defense mechanism i know
02:31:03.260 no no it's not defense mechanism i'm saying fuck fuck it like it's mine now i'm learning yiddish
02:31:09.600 for self-defense situation so you can pass us yeah everyone should learn combat this whole
02:31:18.420 just have a just have a doily in your pocket in case just like just so you can just like skull
02:31:24.460 capper like i'm i'm teaching my kid self-defense yiddish he's not going to go beyond a green belt
02:31:30.480 because i'm not ridiculous but he's going to know enough yeah a little shitska a little shvetsing
02:31:37.780 boy they like i i grew up in montreal i grew up in montreal and i and i worked in westmount uh
02:31:44.200 for a long time if people don't know west mount was like um what will you say well the uh the
02:31:51.080 beverly hills of montreal it's like where all the rich people live um all the prime ministers
02:31:57.160 have housing houses there um it's all the old money so it's like scotch irish uh and jews that's
02:32:05.000 like that's the demographic and um you know houses start at a million for a townhouse you know kind
02:32:11.640 of thing as they go up the hill so i just i worked at a restaurant for a long there for a long time
02:32:17.160 there which is sadly has uh has has now is no longer but he's working at a dreidel store around
02:32:23.800 there yeah just just a store with dreidels
02:32:30.440 straight from history
02:32:39.440 see it's hard to tell when something like that lands if this is a year or the lack of sleep
02:32:49.900 but i'll take it oh it's a bit of both is mine i just imagine a dreidel story what do we have
02:32:57.160 dreidels what do you it's for all your dreidel needs come on down come on down for shecky's
02:33:02.940 dreidel emporium look at this what do you need what do you call attention to kingfield had
02:33:09.000 verbal krav maga that's a comment that i endorse yes for all for all your dreidel needs um where
02:33:18.080 was i richard lewis uh mark baron fuck mark baron when did the gays uh get so gay you know what's
02:33:26.100 funny it's that if you watch old movies from the 90s like a lot of the progressive lib lib movies
02:33:32.120 they would there's gays in the movies but they were almost exclusively flamboyantly gay so you'd
02:33:38.220 have gays but they were i guess like it was just cool to do that back then um but yeah they were
02:33:45.160 there as like just comic relief and then we were all like okay that's kind of funny i guess like
02:33:51.420 i remember this um there's this movie with matthew perry i don't know when it would come out i want
02:33:56.760 to say it's the 90s called like three to tango he's there with oliver platt and the whole premise
02:34:02.340 of the movie is he wants to fuck this woman he worked at like an architecture he wants to fuck
02:34:06.220 this woman at work but he has to like he's look oh no he's looking after his boss's girlfriend
02:34:11.820 his boss for some reason thinks he's gay and he wants to get with the girlfriend but he needs to
02:34:17.920 keep pretending he's gay so it's just like a movie as a pretense for whatever gay stereotype
02:34:22.520 you can imagine but yeah yeah you could just do that back then so it kind of came in by degrees
02:34:28.960 i guess i mean you could almost be excused back in the 90s 80s and 90s for not even knowing
02:34:34.560 homosexuals existed you got called gay on the schoolyard but it was more like you're just being
02:34:39.900 you're being a fag you know like you're just like uh there's the louis ck bit you're just like you
02:34:46.200 know you know people from phoenix are called phoenicians like stop being gay like uh fag
02:34:50.780 faggot well geez just stop this is what i would say because i remember that bit and i don't like
02:34:56.400 uh south park tried to make a big thing about this like oh it just means like an annoying person but
02:35:02.360 like sure but the examples and mannerisms would be for a flamboyantly gay guy because if you give
02:35:09.260 an example of like oh here's a gay thing to say it has something like homosexual men would say
02:35:14.260 which is like kind of effeminate kind of nitpicky trivial um and just like you know just and and
02:35:23.100 the fact of the matter is that a lot of guys found that repulsive and that's kind of the right
02:35:27.280 implied thing that people don't want to admit which is that oh that sort of behavior bothers
02:35:32.120 a lot of guys we we put up with it in women because we want to have sex with them but
02:35:39.260 in a man as has as a heterosexual man to another man you're like i'm not putting up with that
02:35:44.140 like no there's there's no money like what are you doing like if i want to get nagged at or
02:35:50.700 or hear stupid conversations i'll talk to my girlfriend or wife like this is there's the
02:35:56.380 that's untapped resources of i ask a question and i get a story i have to sit through there because
02:36:02.420 if i if i say anything like okay what's the point then i'm the bad guy like that's the
02:36:07.240 live in like that's the world i live in and and look i i ramble and i talk and all that stuff on
02:36:11.660 these things but in real life i'm like more like i just want i just asked you where the i should put
02:36:17.800 the bag i don't need to hear where the bag came from i don't need to hear like any other context
02:36:25.880 of the bag i just where do you want me to put this and then i have to hear hear a 20 minute story about
02:36:30.860 how your day went i'm like i that's not the question and again a lot of people younger
02:36:36.220 people's zoomers don't realize this if a woman was doing that to you back in the 90s you could
02:36:41.780 just grab her and throw her in the side of a dumpster yeah you could stab her at least three
02:36:47.160 times we were chucking it'd be self-defense yeah you just throw them around yeah
02:36:54.600 just you don't need to like hurt them just throw them around
02:36:59.800 you couldn't hurt them you couldn't hurt them since i did you grow up with these i'm sure you
02:37:08.120 did where like you know uh the women's uh spouse abuse ads would run on tv and like talking about
02:37:15.800 women's hospitals like if you need to get out there's help you know in that npr kind of voice
02:37:21.240 um and and those were on tv all the time i was like you know where do you know where your kids
02:37:27.220 are and also if you're getting the
02:37:29.300 shit kicked out of you and you're a woman hey
02:37:31.180 there's options right like that was the two
02:37:33.320 main things that I grew up
02:37:35.380 with and then like and then later they added
02:37:37.340 on like mothers
02:37:39.240 against drunk driving and shit
02:37:40.460 fuck that
02:37:45.180 there's a
02:37:47.000 I was actually even thinking about drunk driving
02:37:49.100 and
02:37:50.980 here's an interesting segue into
02:37:53.300 other conversations because
02:37:54.520 um my audience is very happy that we got to drunk driving all right go ahead no here's here's the
02:38:01.140 thing all right so i think there's like this is this is the difference here's a differentiation
02:38:06.080 to get into drug that i'm i think we can establish so you think of drunk driving a lot of people
02:38:13.020 think of uh will approach the problem of drunk driving is like either looking at the drinking
02:38:17.440 or the driving and the people are kind of inferred but never addressed so a lot of people
02:38:24.180 in here, okay, there's a problem with drunk driving. Drunk driving is a problem. People are dying
02:38:28.100 from drunk driving. Some people look at the drinking and try to limit people's ability to
02:38:33.940 drink. So they'll go up to the restaurants and the bars and say, look, impose all these rules
02:38:39.200 and regulations, make everyone fucking liable, impose harsher sentences for getting caught,
02:38:49.880 all that kind of stuff. And other people who look at the driving thing is like, no, we have to make
02:38:53.500 cars better so if people are doing this and we can't prevent you know everyone from doing it
02:38:57.780 we'll prevent better cars we'll build better cars so that they um you know people will survive
02:39:03.820 crashes better and that kind of thing no one actually addresses the people problem which is
02:39:08.440 like and and i think this is this is where me and my crowd uh i'll include you here dimes uh
02:39:15.480 is looking at things a bit differently is that no we have to address the people it's like well
02:39:19.960 why are people driving drunk because implicit in that decision is simply saying that i don't care
02:39:27.480 about my personal safety or the safety of others i don't care about civilization on some level
02:39:33.320 right because and i know whatever like you know libertarians are going to spurg about this but
02:39:40.720 but there's a responsibility to other people and yourself including your family when you start
02:39:47.060 taking high risk uh behavior and i'm not talking like you know going you know whatever is it is
02:39:53.760 it 0.5 okay well you're you're 0.6 i'm not talking something something stupid and gay like that
02:39:58.040 i'm talking like drunk right like people like you know stumbling out i can drive
02:40:03.120 you know that's fine where where's the road kind of thing um that's a decision that that says that
02:40:11.440 that I don't I don't give a crap like uh you have to address that like that's almost key to this
02:40:20.040 concept where that Matt Erickson and I uh shout out our our our building which is like this idea
02:40:25.780 of civilizational capital where uh where people need to inhabit a sort of a civil frame in order
02:40:34.220 to to build things and build things that are that are decent and good and just and uh and and
02:40:39.900 worthwhile but that comes down to the person like there's a quality that you're almost select
02:40:45.720 selecting for and if someone doesn't have it you have to find a way to to to uh to build it or to
02:40:53.120 to encourage it yeah now this is a very very serious topic i'm gonna take it seriously however
02:40:58.820 i'm gonna start with what i was gonna say at the start which is sure drunk driving kills many
02:41:05.260 people but compare that to how many drunk drivers truly live and balance those but but but to be
02:41:13.900 serious yeah drunk driving is a symptom of a different a different sort of problem that and
02:41:20.380 you could break that data down in a few different ways i like how many people are just occasional
02:41:27.340 drinkers who drunk drive very very rare from what i've seen versus alcoholics who drunk drive so
02:41:33.180 it's more of an extension of an alcoholism problem. And what alcoholism deep down is,
02:41:38.980 because I haven't had a drink in three years. So full disclosure, I used to be a pretty heavy
02:41:42.920 drinker and stopped. And one thing that if you quit drinking, it's usually because you've
02:41:51.340 identified that you have a problem. Now, everyone has a different way to define that. Some people,
02:41:56.200 their rock bottom is a lot lower. And some people, their rock bottom is death. And you never really
02:42:01.060 know but um you've identified there's a problem and then so you try and identify what the problem
02:42:06.020 is because it's usually not that i just like drinking too much it's that i like being drunk
02:42:11.480 i like being drunk really fast okay so what's that mean does that mean like in other areas
02:42:17.280 of your life you try and race towards the extreme that's a different sort of problem with your
02:42:21.900 personality maybe you you don't need to necessarily go to therapy for that you can address it
02:42:25.800 yourself. But once you understand what this is, then you could actually tackle it. But if you
02:42:32.260 just think like, oh, I drink too much, then you're kind of white knuckling it. Then you're always
02:42:35.640 wanting drinking because you think you can like outsmart it. But what you really have
02:42:40.080 is perhaps a nihilism problem. Perhaps what you have is I've got other self-destructive tendencies.
02:42:46.500 And this is one domain where my self-destructive tendencies is turning into outward destruction,
02:42:51.920 as they often do oftentimes self-destructive tendencies drag everyone down with them and
02:42:58.000 you know we can talk about gerard about a mimetic crisis because everything is connected and so part
02:43:03.820 of the drunk driving is that like you don't believe you're connected and this is more to
02:43:07.160 your point and perhaps matt erickson's which is like you just think you're this nihilistic
02:43:11.140 sovereign individual nothing matters i don't matter why not you know it's like like you said
02:43:18.500 you you get by in the way because you actually just don't care um and it's not obvious to me
02:43:23.720 that everyone who just gets a little drunk does that a lot of the times people get drunk and have
02:43:27.360 the wherewithal to say i'm not going to drive but like alcoholics drive drunk all the fucking time
02:43:33.200 because the the real issue is that that darkness within them that's that threatens to take them out
02:43:40.420 and maybe other people as well yeah it's it's like playing chicken with the devil a little bit
02:43:45.740 we'll get into
02:43:48.220 let's get into Gerard for a sec
02:43:50.220 because I think
02:43:50.960 you read
02:43:53.580 I See Satan Fall Like Lightning
02:43:56.560 over on the channel
02:43:57.440 which is an interesting place
02:44:00.620 to start with him because I think that's
02:44:02.560 almost like mid-Gerard
02:44:04.640 when he starts getting actually into the Christian message
02:44:06.700 and stuff
02:44:07.080 where am I going to go with this
02:44:09.740 help me out here
02:44:12.360 we're talking about
02:44:14.600 within i see saint fall like lightning there's we explained it as sort of the mimetic crisis
02:44:20.640 because people hear the term mimetic crisis or even mimesis and you know maybe it's used in
02:44:25.800 other ways but a lot of it comes back to this about what happens when sort of mimetics gets
02:44:33.220 hijacked by something sinister and in the case of gerard he's saying that is that not only is
02:44:39.820 satan responds for that that is satan like satan is manifested as this virus of conflict so that's
02:44:48.720 how he proposes it and then this it it threatens to destroy a community there's actually this other
02:44:55.160 great book called political ponderology and it's got some polish author's name i'm not even going
02:45:03.740 to try and there's this guy he's like his his background is he lived through the third reich
02:45:08.160 can also live through the Soviet Union. So his obsession was tracking the spread of what he
02:45:12.700 called evil. But he also says evil is essentially sort of mental illness. There's this psychosis
02:45:18.220 that pollutes an organization or a society, and mental illness spreads unless you stop it.
02:45:27.360 And you can see this evident in the Soviet Union where it's paranoia. And it's what causes
02:45:33.360 individuals to rat out their neighbors and their children to the state it's it's everyone kind of
02:45:41.780 going crazy on an individual level like that it's like what is that that they were made this way
02:45:46.600 through the spread of some contagion now gerard would say well that's satan other people would
02:45:51.440 say that's evil in a sense because he's saying like evil spreads evil spreads and makes other
02:45:57.460 people evil and sometimes has a core to it but kind of transforms society that way until it
02:46:02.860 destroys everything and what gerard says uh for those who don't know and and you can cut me off
02:46:09.760 on any time here if i'm going too far he says and this is the interesting part that the the crisis
02:46:16.680 the mimetic crisis is conflict that threatens to destroy the entire community usually starts with
02:46:21.500 two people two people with some he says it kind of starts with envy you covet thy neighbor's ox
02:46:27.320 or whatever and then it turns into bitterness that turns into a feud and that turns into violence and
02:46:32.160 then it turns in this big fucking thing and it threatens to destroy the community maybe the
02:46:36.880 society but let's just say community town and then but it needs a pressure release um and that
02:46:43.780 pressure release in this model now i'm not sure i agree entirely with this but within this model
02:46:48.520 the pressure release would be a scapegoat you find an individual to blame the conflict on
02:46:53.060 kill them sacrifice them exile them usually kill them pressure release achieved everything goes
02:46:59.240 back to normal in Gerard's movie says this is this is all the work of Satan is conflict but
02:47:05.740 then Satan also elects a sacrifice to kind of quell it to bring it back down to baseline so it
02:47:13.600 can keep sort of you know in essence milking that suffering for eternity so he says I think
02:47:19.500 somewhere near the end of the book he says Satan caused the conflict but also gives people the way
02:47:23.380 out so you can kind of keep you know in flux forever and just kind of milking that suffering
02:47:30.100 from humanity that that was the that was the god trap right that was that was the christ trap for
02:47:35.200 satan when i think people look at the temptations of christ in the desert and they they don't
02:47:40.900 understand it's like christ is trying to sorry uh the death satan is like not sure he's not sure
02:47:48.740 what this what this this christ kid's all about right uh whether he's just a prophet or whether
02:47:53.680 he's you know what's going on but never in his mind does he actually think it's this is actually
02:47:59.140 god inhabiting a human form that's humbling himself to this point because that's outside of
02:48:04.640 of myth that's outside of all structure like no god had ever done that before it's not that gods
02:48:11.840 haven't come down in human form but it's like zeus comes down the human form fucks around
02:48:16.700 you know out pops hercules right um you know yahweh had never that that was just outside of
02:48:25.380 frame so satan didn't really think this was actually god in a human form he just thought it
02:48:31.880 was a god had made this prophet and he's that's why he's trying to tempt him all the time and
02:48:36.180 that's also what's very interesting sorry to cut you off there but before i forget what's interesting
02:48:40.320 about lord of the rings um everyone's familiar with lord of the rings but if you're like me
02:48:45.580 and you get weird with it.
02:48:47.440 What is it?
02:48:48.500 Is this like a Jewish jewelry thing?
02:48:50.700 Like a fucking onion ring there, bud?
02:48:53.820 Is it right next to the dreidel store?
02:48:56.200 Like the dreidel rings?
02:48:58.340 Give us your gold.
02:49:00.040 Give us your gold and your silver.
02:49:01.800 Come.
02:49:02.440 What the fuck is this guy talking about?
02:49:05.440 You got some hard times.
02:49:06.980 What?
02:49:07.180 Just take out a tooth.
02:49:08.500 Give it over.
02:49:09.120 We'll give you some money.
02:49:10.460 A little bit of shekel.
02:49:12.500 But before I forget,
02:49:13.160 it was a lot of people.
02:49:15.040 there's all kinds of video essays out there and experts in Lord of the Rings.
02:49:18.000 You can watch them.
02:49:18.740 And one of the interesting points in the book is that this is essentially what
02:49:23.620 led to the destruction of Sauron at the end of the return of the King.
02:49:27.260 What really defeated him was his hubris.
02:49:30.680 What really defeated him was his arrogance that he was,
02:49:33.100 he was shocked when the hobbits were at the crack of Mount doom.
02:49:37.940 And it never occurred to him because he was so sure that that was just
02:49:42.720 impossible.
02:49:43.340 and so and knowing what you know about jr tolkien and where he draws his inspiration from like that
02:49:47.980 does seem to be uh drawn from i think you know christianity in a sense that the evil is defeated
02:49:55.560 not by something that can outsmart it but it's almost defeated by its own by its own faults
02:50:02.420 in a sense and i'm sure there's other you know theologians out there that can probably say it
02:50:07.520 better than that but that's just what i always found interesting well i mean it's even star
02:50:11.400 wars right like it's the uh the uh the uh what's it the the thermal exhaust pipe right that brings
02:50:19.860 down the empire and even and even in the third film where it's like you know he's you know they
02:50:24.900 just don't think of it like yeah well why wouldn't why wouldn't you consider this option why
02:50:29.760 pretty obvious option what is it what if this isn't working i was like no no it's gonna work
02:50:33.860 out yeah it's kind of like what we're saying like i i i've coined the term bitter white pill
02:50:38.640 kind of like
02:50:41.300 I imagine it's sort of the fisherman
02:50:43.540 friend version of a white pill
02:50:45.840 where you take it and you're like oh this is
02:50:47.700 disgusting and you're like yeah but it's good
02:50:49.700 it's fine it's working it's a good
02:50:51.720 thing but it's disgusting at the same time
02:50:53.820 is that our elites are
02:50:55.500 fucking retarded and
02:50:57.520 there's no reason to be afraid
02:50:59.760 of them Peter Kononis is talking about
02:51:01.700 this like if you're big into the JQ
02:51:03.720 and you think that you know
02:51:05.680 the Jews run everything and they're
02:51:07.700 in control of all this stuff and then you look around and everything's and and like planes are
02:51:11.360 following this guy like oh so they just suck at it like there's there's opportunities here folks
02:51:17.840 there's opportunities um there's one book i've mentioned before and some people are probably
02:51:24.460 sick of me bringing it up but i'm just when we're talking about this about how evil can sometimes be
02:51:30.600 self-defeating i'm cautious about going to down that road because some people will take that road
02:51:37.100 to pacifism and say well it doesn't matter what we do because eventually evil will or corruption
02:51:42.160 whatever it might be will wear itself out and because that's in its nature uh the fear is that
02:51:47.600 by the time it quote unquote wears itself out it's just leveled everything and there's this book
02:51:52.840 i mentioned uh it's by uh a lot of your listeners might be aware of it's by ivan ilian called on
02:51:59.680 resistance to evil by force and this is orthodox guy and he's taken he wrote the entire book
02:52:07.200 not the entire book but at least the first half in response to tolstoy um another one of three
02:52:14.120 famous russians and then there's only three yeah but he was he was pacifist he was on the side of
02:52:21.800 like any violence is the work of satan any violence is evil you should actually lay down and maybe
02:52:27.800 even sacrifice yourself and let evil steamroll you with the belief that eventually it will good
02:52:33.480 will win god will win uh i have an alien was saying that no you have a you have a duty to
02:52:38.480 confront evil with force sometimes even violence but by force you must apprehend it and interrogate
02:52:45.360 it um and so it's like a treatise against pacifism and so and even with um i believe a lady here said
02:52:52.500 the author andrew lobazuski the guy who did that political poneralogy book that's kind of the
02:52:57.240 argument he was making that like you you need to stop it otherwise it will consume everything just
02:53:02.560 like within gerard's like without that pressure release of the scapegoat then everyone just kind
02:53:06.680 of fucking kills each other then maybe you don't have anything that's the fear so my fear is that
02:53:12.040 you know if our opponents are inept surely they are but how much damage can they do before they
02:53:20.380 they destroy themselves you know planes are falling out like what can we do to make it so
02:53:25.140 the planes don't fall on my house well yeah i think i think what's what's gotten confused with
02:53:31.320 pacifism pacifism yeah uh being a pacifist is that that word uh is that somehow people think
02:53:40.960 that it means um it means self-sacrifice or or uh or or you know suspending someone's uh your
02:53:52.580 your natural desire for self-preservation i don't think that's true it's like it's you have to kind
02:53:59.060 of look at your moves like past being a pacifist on a as a first priority is fine right like if you
02:54:06.760 can move if instead of engaging in violence instead of engaging in a conflict if you can
02:54:12.240 detach yourself in the conflict and remove yourself a lot of good things can happen right
02:54:16.560 like always look to get yourself out of it if the conflict is not it is is here and you can't do
02:54:24.120 anything you can't do anything else but confront it then you have to confront it because your
02:54:28.680 self-preservation has to take has to take primacy and you i mean you know this as a father uh i
02:54:36.480 remember when my child was first born i've shared this story before so bear with anyone who actually
02:54:41.140 listen to what i'm talking about um is that i remember when my when we they moved my wife and
02:54:46.900 my my newborn daughter from the delivery room to the recovery room and i got into that room and
02:54:53.460 i started checking my sixes and nines and i became very aware of this sort of impulse that if anyone
02:54:58.900 came into that room threateningly i would take their life right and and there's like this like
02:55:05.700 it's it's this you know shoulder up kind of kind of move and if you're that's that's a that's an
02:55:15.620 i think a natural and good response that shouldn't be uh questioned or subdued like you need to have
02:55:22.660 that response to your family and to yourself to saying like these are higher these this is more
02:55:27.460 important than me right like it's almost more important than than my than my goodness or my
02:55:33.940 soul like you you have to have seen that things are bigger and more important because if you don't
02:55:40.100 you get into the sophistry of of individualism where it's all about you and and and and everyone
02:55:47.220 else be damned and uh it's not just your posture it's not just your machismo that you're here for
02:55:55.140 it's not that you are saying i i would rise to the occasion because you want to be uh a hero
02:56:01.140 But you are 100% convinced that you would.
02:56:04.800 You would, if someone broke into your house, you would grab the gun.
02:56:09.000 And I don't know, like there are fathers out there who wouldn't do that.
02:56:12.860 I don't know what to say to them, honestly.
02:56:14.660 Like they're missing something or they're so ideologically possessed that they think this, like sacrificing their family would serve whatever cause it is.
02:56:24.800 But I think there is a biological, spiritual, metaphysical drive.
02:56:29.560 and women, women experience that with the whole mama bear thing. You know, they talk about that
02:56:33.960 all the time, but, uh, yeah, with even when I, the, the phrasing people use when they say, oh,
02:56:39.940 if you don't have any kids, you don't have stakes in society. I didn't, I never liked that. And that
02:56:45.340 seems hostile to people without kids, but there is something in that where your time horizon changes
02:56:52.220 and your, your relationship with society changes. Cause now you feel like, oh, I'm representing a
02:56:58.440 household not just me not just a consumer not just uh a guy out there who's looking for something
02:57:04.900 and then i think for a man viewing himself as a member of a household um you know i'm not trying
02:57:11.740 to throw salt on any divorced individuals but i think they may know what i'm talking about here
02:57:16.940 you know you see yourself as part of a unit even if you divorce the fucking mother of your children
02:57:21.760 or father of your children like you still there's still a connection there yeah you never stop being
02:57:26.500 married to your wife if you have kids like yeah it's impossible you're still married oh you kill
02:57:33.700 your co-parenting and you're scheduling things with her and you have to figure things out with
02:57:37.300 her and you're talking with her all the time because you know you have to figure out school
02:57:40.920 and payments all that stuff yeah you're still married you're just not you're just not married
02:57:44.420 you're just not living together like that's that's the other well it's like why do we know that
02:57:48.040 because these people find it so difficult to date single people and single people don't want to date
02:57:52.480 you know single parents because they know there's like this other phantom thing there that they'll
02:57:57.580 have to wrestle their entire lives to you know reach the same level of have you have you ever
02:58:03.840 tried dating a single mother i i i dated a single mother for like three months like years and years
02:58:11.420 ago obviously how'd it go was it great no it was awful it's like you know and i and i was like uh
02:58:20.640 okay i'm gonna man up and like be this surrogate father to this kid who like it's not my kid and
02:58:28.680 all i can hear about it is her her her her shit with her ex i'm like this isn't fun like you know
02:58:35.080 like even if the sex was good it's like it's not that good it's like no sex is that good
02:58:40.000 and also there's a wall there and that's something because you know my dad died when i was pretty
02:58:46.960 young and so my mom as a widower would start because she had a long-term relationship at one
02:58:51.200 point but there always is this kind of strange there you're never sure if that guy is allowed
02:58:55.940 to discipline the children in any way right um it's like what that's never talked about it's like
02:59:01.440 a weird thing that's always there and never really goes away unless it's kind of negotiated between
02:59:07.260 the guy and that kid but it's like this whole thing well and also here's the thing that happens
02:59:11.980 quite often and i think this happens quite often you'll see with women more explicitly but i've
02:59:19.480 seen it with men as well like my mom and my dad did always when i was i was very young
02:59:23.920 my mom had one one long-term relationship when i was growing up um with this guy called guy
02:59:31.860 um i know i don't know why it wasn't it wasn't even guy he wasn't even fucking french he was
02:59:40.640 just from like from like new brunswick so it's just called guy it's not what what could that
02:59:46.220 possibly be short for either like exactly like guillem like but no but he's english so he's guy
02:59:54.320 with uh and he was either emotion abusive all that all that kind of good stuff and i i saw it
03:00:00.620 in that relationship it's like he became rivalrous with me now i'm a you know eight-year-old kid
03:00:06.400 but he was becoming jealous of the affection my mom was showing to her own
03:00:10.180 child cause he, cause obviously he, he wanted it. And I,
03:00:13.940 and I started thinking about this in terms of like,
03:00:15.400 I think a lot of divorced women that you see that too, where, uh,
03:00:19.880 the standard refrain, a lot of, a lot of divorced women will say that, oh yeah,
03:00:24.100 my ex was a lousy husband, but he's a great dad. And I don't, I think that's,
03:00:29.440 I'm sure that can happen,
03:00:30.980 but I also think that a lot of times what happens is that child
03:00:36.380 gets born that the the father begins to become uh you know giving love to the child and that
03:00:42.880 and the and the mother is put into a rivalrous uh situation with her child which is very
03:00:49.580 uncomfortable because you know she loves her child the husband loves her child this is a good thing
03:00:55.780 but she is becomes jealous of of her husband's split affections like she's used to getting all
03:01:04.300 of it now she has to share it she doesn't like that and so they get divorced because even in
03:01:09.640 that statement he's lousy husband great father i'm like i don't know how you could do that like
03:01:16.200 to be a good father most of the most of the primary characteristics of good father
03:01:20.720 in my mind also makes you a good husband like yeah and with um
03:01:26.240 it it also factors in that the gender of the kids too because that can sometimes affect
03:01:34.300 the relationship as well i find that with a lot of people now and i don't know how far this goes
03:01:39.500 back in history but they're always chasing this sort of romantic high chasing that dragon um and
03:01:44.960 when my son was born i think even my wife might have been surprised at how things changed and part
03:01:52.620 of being married is trying to reclaim those times when you could have time for yourself
03:01:56.640 date nights and and couples time and stuff but she was even ways like you know like everything
03:02:01.160 change i'm like yeah like i think some people go into starting a family not not really believing
03:02:07.200 that everything's going to change they might understand it logically but they don't really
03:02:11.440 believe it and then once there they panic they don't know what to do like oh like the attention
03:02:16.160 split like they never ran that through their operating system and so they you know i mean but
03:02:21.460 it seems obvious but a lot of people don't and so they think it's like oh he's not a good he's a good
03:02:27.080 father but a good husband well at when a kid's born you're kind of both at the same time you
03:02:31.860 don't get to say i wish he was more one of this other thing same with a mother right like mary
03:02:37.680 being married to a mother it's a different creature entirely not only emotionally but
03:02:42.260 physically too woman's body changes all all over the fucking place right hormones are different so
03:02:47.760 it's like this is a new room i'm living in right now and unless i think those who go into it
03:02:52.940 understanding that have do a better job at staying together yeah and sort of understand
03:02:58.260 also i think people who just have a bit who actually have love you know i i think what's
03:03:04.540 surprising to me in this and you know i'm 47 i shouldn't or turning 47 this year i shouldn't be
03:03:10.520 this naive but occasionally you get these these instances where like oh shit uh people don't
03:03:17.100 really understand this do they like they don't they don't get love they don't really understand
03:03:23.240 what it means to like sacrifice or or or actually believe that there's something more important than
03:03:29.120 them which i would think is like fucking basic but but then you run into people like you're
03:03:35.260 running your whole life like as if this doesn't exist as if this concept is like i'm talking
03:03:39.660 astrophysics like you know uh showing magic to a dog like uh or just talking to an average
03:03:47.400 australian about you know anything bigger than their day um like it's it's it's it's stunning
03:03:55.800 to me like what was the other assumption i was i was thinking about today uh the other day was um
03:03:59.460 uh so part of part of what got me where i'm at was realization it was it was a realization
03:04:07.020 because i was a standard you know shit lib canadian boy uh living in the 90s frame for
03:04:12.540 long to way too long and one of the things that happened was i became aware that i had
03:04:16.220 stacked all these contradictions these mental contradictions in my head
03:04:20.460 and was it was a george floyd protests that were happening in canada that finally broke me because
03:04:26.700 i was watching i was an atheist at the time uh i was watching outside my my duplex window
03:04:34.540 into a park a whole bunch of people kneeling in solidarity with george floyd in montreal canada
03:04:41.260 like during a pandemic like you know i was watching this this weird civic religion
03:04:48.140 ceremony happening outside my window and i was like i can't i can i can no longer uh
03:04:55.900 make sense of this like you know the pandemic was was one of the big ones right i i was just
03:05:01.580 running on this assumption that everyone's kind of good right like uh in general canadians were
03:05:07.820 all you know canadian is a canadian is canadian yes we have our bad people they're the people
03:05:12.220 just didn't receive the message but overall everyone's bottom line pretty decent they're
03:05:16.780 going to take care of each other and then during that whole period of time i was like oh no no we're
03:05:22.540 we're not good like this isn't this is this is weird and then the george floyd thing happened
03:05:28.060 like i'm i'm i'm done like i can't i think it's almost a cascade failure yeah yeah yeah well
03:05:35.200 that's good that's what most people should do because you know the george floyd what we call
03:05:39.840 the summer of love that would have radicalized i think a lot of normal people but for people like
03:05:46.200 us it drove us insane just like covid it radicalized a lot of people but if you're already
03:05:51.020 in that space it probably pushed you to some fringe that you've just never left at that point
03:05:56.220 um and yeah yeah so i imagine that's also what people must have felt like during the rodney king
03:06:04.520 riots like you didn't think this was possible then you're witnessing it and then you're watching
03:06:08.840 the media reaction to it and then the cascade failure you you experience is what you would
03:06:14.580 hope most people experience because they're seeing something that their ideology said shouldn't be
03:06:21.180 happening. And then if they, the people you hate, we're talking about this. So maybe those people
03:06:28.740 that I was against, maybe they were right about other things. That's what the, that's kind of
03:06:33.300 what the red pilling is. You start that inquest of self-discovery saying, well, what the fuck
03:06:38.240 else might I have been wrong? And if you start probing your thoughts and your history, some
03:06:42.220 people just don't do that. Some people just say this was a weird, like with COVID, a lot of people
03:06:47.080 think well that was like a weird one-off thing that happened but you know if you have any sort
03:06:52.240 of intellectual fucking curiosity you'd say that's kind of crazy that happened has that happened
03:06:56.500 before what are the mechanisms that led to that uh if we they said it wasn't developed in a lab
03:07:02.840 and they called me crazy everyone crazy then they admitted to it that's a weird thing that
03:07:06.920 happened have they done that with other diseases like if you pull that thread now you're at the
03:07:12.300 entire fucking tapestry
03:07:14.400 of government conspiracies and you can get
03:07:16.320 lost in there. It's kind
03:07:18.380 of up to each individual where they stop. You can keep
03:07:20.380 pulling that thread and end up at the earth
03:07:22.260 is flat too. You can go all the way to the
03:07:24.340 end where you distrust anything
03:07:26.160 ever reported by the media.
03:07:28.240 I've been there, man. Hey, man, dinosaur is the most
03:07:30.160 fake and gay thing in the world.
03:07:32.200 One of my good friends is Johnny Monoxide
03:07:33.980 from the Paranormies and he's
03:07:35.520 every day I talk about a female
03:07:38.260 celebrity. He's like, oh, you know, they're trans, right?
03:07:40.100 I'm like, yeah, I know. I know everyone
03:07:42.240 everyone's every woman's trans i know i get but he's like earth is flat all science space is fake
03:07:48.540 nukes are fake and he's got a hundred hours of content and all of it so you know you could i'm
03:07:54.280 not like he's good friends with me so i'm not even trying to dismiss any of that but you a lot of
03:07:59.680 people end up there and people wonder why have so many people ended up there um and it's just because
03:08:05.380 if you believe you've been lied to by so many things well why not everything so even if you
03:08:10.760 don't believe necessarily in all that stuff, I think it's important to understand how people
03:08:16.080 get there. And it's not just they're schizophrenic. You know, same thing with QAnon people. I know
03:08:21.340 it's easy to dunk on QAnon people and think it's ridiculous, but you can chart a course for how
03:08:26.940 a well, and this is kind of a marketing thing. This is where you look at a demographic and see
03:08:32.020 how they change over time. You see, okay, here's a group of people, probably Gen X. They were like
03:08:37.560 solidly political and something made them believe that politics is fake none of it matters and they
03:08:45.300 spiraled and they ended up in some weird areas but something triggered that and they they asked
03:08:50.800 why not well why not why isn't fucking trump on the side of christ and like they didn't know what
03:08:56.320 the deep state was then you learn what the deep state is and you freak the fuck out so i you can
03:09:00.820 see over the course of years how they kind of end up there which i think is essential for figuring
03:09:05.540 know how to talk to them and maybe not correct but introduce some new information that says oh
03:09:13.880 maybe you know donald trump isn't going to like make every you know the reason i i'm canadian i
03:09:22.020 can't vote for trump but i would have voted for trump because i thought he was going to throw
03:09:24.960 every single woman in america out of a helicopter unfortunately he didn't do that but you know
03:09:31.000 like but there's there's gonna grab him by the pussy and just like like like a six like a six
03:09:34.860 pack yeah he's gonna blow up mecca he's gonna you know there's some people who like kind of believe
03:09:40.540 that but i see reasonable people because if you look at the demographics if you look at the
03:09:46.020 biomass you say well these people have jobs they have families they actually seem to have everything
03:09:50.000 else in their lives figured out they're not retarded they're not actually insane so what's
03:09:56.420 going on there and i think people in our space can be a bit too dismissive and that's how you
03:10:01.560 argue yourself into very very dark corners that's and some people think i'm just a i'm i'm a big
03:10:07.240 bleeding heart softy wanted to talk to these people but i guess i am you know well i think
03:10:12.140 there's there's there's rationale to it like it's it's to go back to gerard for a second like we we
03:10:18.180 always create these little mental scapegoats because what a scapegoat essentially does is
03:10:23.440 remove responsibility from us like responsibility and resentment i think are are uh intimately
03:10:31.480 connected that the more resentment you have the less responsibility you want to take about it uh
03:10:37.260 because this is all like pride all the way down right that i you know uh father turbo quails
03:10:42.760 once said something that really illuminated me when he said that depression is actually a form
03:10:47.660 of pride because it comes down to saying like why aren't things working out for me you know i i or
03:10:53.800 even this or self-hatred like i'm i'm horrible because i have a because somewhere in my brain
03:10:59.900 i have a preferred state to be it i should be better than this is that whole statement it's
03:11:06.480 like how do you know that how how are you making this how are you making that rationale how do you
03:11:10.340 know what's going to happen tomorrow you know or or next week or five years from now what why do
03:11:16.880 think you should be in control of this uh so we create these little mini scapegoats and we and we
03:11:24.040 apply all these social ills and problems to them so that we don't have to deal with our own problem
03:11:30.180 when when i sort of started saying uh with civilizational capital is that you don't live
03:11:34.980 in a civilization anymore people uh the reaction to that was really interesting to me because people
03:11:41.040 really get defensive about it like they're almost trying to negotiate the statement i'm like no no
03:11:46.380 no you have to start from an a priority so you might as well start from here you might as well
03:11:50.860 assume zero and work up it's the same thing as like whatever whatever's whatever's going on in
03:11:57.100 your life you're the problem fix it because if you assume this that position and say that
03:12:03.880 i am the one who's who's involved who's making this problem a problem you can fix that you can
03:12:10.000 fix you even that is even that comes down to like i'm going to remove myself from that situation
03:12:15.820 not through maids but but like you know from by just somebody saying i you know i'll quit or i'll
03:12:23.320 leave or i'll do this or whatever right like you have options people just think they don't have
03:12:29.500 them because they they have this romantic size vision in their head that they have to do this
03:12:35.220 or do that or go through therapy and stuff like no just you know maybe the best situation is to
03:12:39.940 get yourself out of the out of it remove yourself of it and then all of a sudden things can sometimes
03:12:45.360 get better like you don't have to sacrifice if you're the scapegoat in this in the situation
03:12:50.200 you don't have to get sacrificed you do have to perform a sacrifice but it doesn't necessarily
03:12:55.400 have to be you getting murdered uh you can you can also just remove yourself and oftentimes
03:13:02.980 that just makes things better in a weird way go ahead yeah well there's an interest there's a
03:13:07.760 couple things there um one on the topic of psychiatry one of the issues that's plaguing
03:13:14.060 I think a lot of people right now, men, women, old, young, um, is the over, over psychiatric
03:13:21.780 analyzation of each other and ourselves. And we cover this very interesting book by a man named
03:13:27.640 Thomas Zaz, uh, wrote a book called the therapeutic state. This was a renowned psychologist and he was
03:13:34.520 sort of tracking the history of how psychoanalysis infiltrated, because it didn't happen that long
03:13:39.360 ago uh american society no early life check required for that name yeah well he goes back
03:13:44.900 to freud but the freud is relatively recent and you think that it was this movement done by hundreds
03:13:50.660 of people it never is it's usually only like three to six guys who are in charge of most of
03:13:55.500 these intellectual movements but that's resulted in all of us psychoanalyzing each other and
03:14:01.860 ourselves um to almost and i forget the guy's name dr menninger i think was his name he was the
03:14:08.540 leading psychoanalyst in America at the time. And his position was nobody is sane. There is no such
03:14:16.400 thing as sanity. We're all just different gradations of insane. That's very interesting
03:14:21.020 because that means you don't have a baseline that you want to work back to. Everyone is permanently
03:14:25.480 insane. It's just trying to figure out how to either chemically or therapeutically cope with
03:14:30.460 that. But you're kind of infecting society with this madness that has no ideal state. How do you
03:14:36.420 get back to sanity well that's impossible um but and also i wanted to mention here there's a very
03:14:41.880 good comment here uh by cable like uh you know did we just come full circle to play yourself
03:14:46.360 up by your bootstraps i wanted to address that because that was what um mentioned before jordan
03:14:52.000 peterson was big on but clean your room and i think a lot of leftists correctly point out like
03:14:59.180 look you know not you're not to blame for everything sometimes there is just social
03:15:03.960 oppression sometimes there are phenomenon forces beyond your control economically academically
03:15:11.280 whatever it is um i do think though that for a great many things most people know what they need
03:15:19.400 to do to be who they want to be it's no great mystery um and i find that if if you address
03:15:26.360 those first you can become the sort of agent of change that can attack those things and on the
03:15:33.160 right broadly, we're pretty good at that. Uh, we have a rich and long history of self-improvement
03:15:40.220 of fitness. I actually think physique posting as corny as it is, is one of the better things
03:15:45.700 we've done. Look, not everyone needs to be a bodybuilder, but understanding that wouldn't
03:15:49.260 it be cool if you were in shape and you could just like flex and just own someone that way,
03:15:54.740 you know, it's kind of a bit people do, but we're pretty good on pushing discipline. We're pretty
03:16:01.060 good on pushing nutrition and and eating healthy and get getting the plastic out of your blood all
03:16:07.820 that shit we're pretty good at that and i think that helps you put yourself in a position where
03:16:13.000 you can address those larger problems as opposed to some on the left politically who think self
03:16:19.520 improvement is fascist or bad and they kind of lean into the sickness lean into the mental illness
03:16:26.160 so i i don't like throwing the baby out of the bath water where it's like there's a certain
03:16:30.940 level most people can rise to to make themselves not miserable and sometimes it's fucking easy
03:16:36.140 sometimes it does mean not drinking or and sometimes it does mean not eating so many
03:16:41.700 seed oils all the memes on our side usually it's like three or four things if you do that
03:16:46.480 you actually will feel better if you work out you will feel better and clearer and you can plan
03:16:52.120 better you know anyway that was a bit of a you know i just i just started uh david granowski
03:16:58.280 said this on uh our our last show together and he's like you know just go fix your fix your
03:17:03.880 thyroid and i've been meaning to fix my thyroid for a little bit i started fixing my thyroid and
03:17:08.720 i kind of just tell everyone go fix your fucking thyroid it's amazing like i was clouded and
03:17:17.100 feeling crappy like all the time but like but like no reason or rhyme to it i started taking
03:17:23.260 thyroid tablets uh and just like garden variety whatever like nothing special about them and
03:17:29.080 within a week i'm like way better yeah i could say a lot of these little adjustments will make
03:17:37.100 you clear and then you can address these big problems a lot better so you can turn yourself
03:17:41.600 into that sort of warrior that you want to be whatever it might be but so i i kind of walk the
03:17:47.180 line between those two things logan daily just gives a 10 two-bit podcast memberships thank you
03:17:52.900 very much logan daily i will take your nubs and your money i appreciate you um dimes are coming
03:18:00.580 up over an hour do we can we keep you around for a little bit longer i don't know uh just a just a
03:18:05.080 few more minutes actually because i do need to get going to have dinner but i'm having such a great
03:18:08.460 time i i want to push it um shit push it garbage is best song by the way sorry where else you want
03:18:15.840 to go with it shane gillis is one of your just to finish off with the bud like comedian see
03:18:20.120 there's points to all these things folks we we kind of weave this shit in so that you know uh
03:18:26.440 i don't know it's an it's an art uh you wouldn't get it um you said to me in uh when we're talking
03:18:33.980 coming up to the show is that Shane Gillis is one of your
03:18:35.980 boys now. He now
03:18:37.980 is the new comedian spokesman for
03:18:39.980 Bud Light. Bud Light of course
03:18:41.720 got themselves in a little bit of trouble
03:18:44.080 by going with a trans
03:18:47.460 spokesperson
03:18:49.060 it's
03:18:50.320 spokesperson it's
03:18:52.480 and then
03:18:54.360 when that blew up their face
03:18:55.760 they decided to switch
03:18:57.940 gears and now they're all UFC
03:19:00.200 and even by
03:19:01.820 trans standards are real freak
03:19:04.060 in nature. Dylan Mulvaney is the
03:19:05.860 individual, like just unsettling
03:19:08.360 to behold for most
03:19:09.820 people.
03:19:12.220 Yeah, because
03:19:12.740 all trans
03:19:16.080 is this
03:19:17.960 weird, so Gerard talks about
03:19:19.780 modeling and mirroring. There's almost a distinction
03:19:21.820 to be made, right? Modeling is kind of what
03:19:23.820 your kid does with you.
03:19:25.260 They're looking at you and they're
03:19:27.420 adopting your mannerisms,
03:19:30.040 your ways of doing it,
03:19:31.020 like to a to a to a personalized level mirroring is what happens often and this we see this a lot
03:19:38.180 now with social media is where people are just taking the facade so there it's almost like a
03:19:44.400 caricature would be a maybe a better way of thinking about it so almost all male to female
03:19:51.620 trans are doing sort of like female caricatures it's drag in a weird way yeah or worse than that
03:20:00.440 um just to do a brief tangent there um i always encourage people to look at some of these
03:20:06.260 larger sweeping problems as buckets containing smaller problems so even the trans identity i
03:20:12.880 kind of reject that identity as we know it because if you look at it it's actually a few other
03:20:16.740 a few component pathologies that have different causes so on one hand there may you know maybe
03:20:24.580 there are people who are trans actually and i don't i'm not going to give them that i think
03:20:28.180 it's fucking bullshit because what you have on one head is autogynophiles so autogynophile i think
03:20:34.460 that would constitute most of the ones you actually do see male to female they are just
03:20:41.100 they're like the ultra ultra jews it's like you know where circumcision just isn't enough they're
03:20:45.880 like no further well i need more in a sense what they are is a man who is turned on by the idea of
03:20:53.920 them being a woman so oftentimes they don't even get the surgery because that's part of it if you'll
03:20:59.460 notice there's lots of trans influencers who never get bottom surgery and they'll kind of create this
03:21:03.180 reason why and i'm you know i don't encourage people to do yeah exactly i don't encourage
03:21:07.720 people to do blair white's a great example because that's bimbofication all the way down that's like
03:21:12.840 you became like a weird like tarted up sex doll as a man so but that is what it is and i don't
03:21:19.960 encourage people to do this but you can find forums reddit subreddits of like the wives of
03:21:24.720 guys who go through this and i always remember this one where like the the wife was talking about
03:21:30.560 i found my husband in our room like wearing lingerie staring at himself in the mirror and
03:21:36.160 he had an erection that is essentially who you're dealing with here they are a extreme fetishist
03:21:41.160 who is into the idea of like being a man who's also a woman so it's a fetish it's not an identity
03:21:47.900 and that's where a lot of these women i think get confused it's like this doesn't seem like what
03:21:52.760 you're saying this seems sick and weird because it is um then there's the cross dressers who are
03:21:58.480 a bit different like that just like gay men who dress as women that's that's a bit different as
03:22:03.620 well uh but then there's just the straight up predators too they're doing it just to like
03:22:07.880 get to kids to the groomers so these are just men who grow their hair and say i'm a woman now and
03:22:13.980 you can't get mad at me that's like a third group but this is all bound up in this identity that's
03:22:19.160 essentially made up psychoanalytically and that subgroup of the other men who are trying to
03:22:24.760 who are predators is is men who i think are realizing hey women get all these extra benefits
03:22:30.340 so all i have to do is identify as a woman and i get all these benefits i can win gold
03:22:35.500 at the fucking olympics precisely so a lot of this is is the fucking dark shadow of feminism
03:22:42.020 i'm teaching men it's like i want attention i want to be loved like a lot of these you know
03:22:46.300 that's fucking great look if again if you have the patience for this look at the interviews with
03:22:51.020 the wachowskis so there's two with the directors of the matrix both male to female trans doing an
03:22:57.380 awful job at it but um the way they got into it was watching trans porn and this being sort of a
03:23:04.060 humiliation ritual for them don't don't just as advice for any trans people listen to this
03:23:10.000 don't make your model whoopie goldberg because that that's essentially what the what chowskis
03:23:15.780 look like they look like like white whoopie goldbergs and and not like jumping jack flash
03:23:21.340 whoopie goldberg i'm talking like view whoopie goldberg right now you know but but it's like
03:23:25.000 these were very insecure dark weird guys who i think and this is just me reaching a bit here
03:23:33.160 but a lot of these guys i think glorify the idea of the woman as the receiver of praise the receiver
03:23:39.960 of attention so they they decide they want to be one because they want all this free stuff
03:23:44.980 and then they don't get it but they kind of get it from women because the funny thing is that
03:23:49.720 men don't really have patience for how women do things but you know if you are married or you
03:23:56.640 have raised daughters or anything you're or you know women and like to be around them or whatever
03:24:01.180 you kind of know that they they do this thing where they lie all the fucking time but all the
03:24:05.980 time they deal in what we call the time revealed preference so this is why uh for example i always
03:24:13.020 use the example of miley cyrus like she was out there years ago saying that i would i'm pansexual
03:24:18.400 i'm open to dating anyone man woman trans whatever but she always dated the exact same type of
03:24:25.340 straight white man because when it comes to most women you actually have to look at what they do
03:24:29.600 because they'll say stuff they'll say like i love transgender they're they're strong they're
03:24:34.800 powerful if you call that woman if you say that she looks transgender she'll try and shoot you
03:24:39.820 in your fucking throat because she understands that's ugly and weird and freakish but she won't
03:24:46.080 say that so a lot of men don't understand that so they think when a woman says oh you're gorgeous
03:24:50.940 and beautiful that's also what hot girls say to fat girls too they say you're gorgeous and they
03:24:56.100 take one thing that they like it's like oh you're gorgeous your your boobs are so big yeah because
03:25:01.180 she's 400 fucking pounds it would be weird if they weren't but like but guys think like oh they
03:25:06.440 love me they love me because they don't know how to think like a woman and that's the weird irony
03:25:10.840 there cable with a 49.99 uh super chat thank you very much cable female female to male trans
03:25:19.100 unironically perpetrating promoting gender stereotypes as long as you're a dude purposeful
03:25:24.860 inversion you know what's what's what's sick what's sick and wrong about all this stuff
03:25:29.500 is that and i'm i i want to be i i would love to be on the side of someone who thinks like
03:25:37.040 hey man if you're over 18 no about no no problem but the problem with that is again once you become
03:25:43.180 a father and you're serious about being a father you realize that that's your child forever like
03:25:48.480 18 doesn't like doesn't isn't a magic wand right if my daughter i'm i'm thankful that my daughter
03:25:56.900 is turning out to be a girly girl at even at three and a half like she's you know very very
03:26:03.100 very fit in many ways and like that's almost like a sigh of relief where if you have a daughter who's
03:26:09.180 a tomboy you're like now you're worried like what if i have some third grade teacher with it with
03:26:16.120 who just wants to get it who wants to be a savior of the world who identifies my kid as trans and
03:26:22.440 then starts doing starts issuing them puberty blockers at you know six seven eight nine whatever
03:26:29.780 fucking stupid age that they're they're pushing this shit on that's the that's the concern but
03:26:35.440 also the further concern is that is that is that it doesn't stop when you're 18 like i don't want
03:26:40.980 anyone to have to
03:26:43.000 deal or go through this
03:26:44.980 like this is
03:26:45.840 insanity
03:26:47.120 they're literally pushing
03:26:49.140 castration medication
03:26:51.500 onto people
03:26:52.900 and I don't expect that mostly people
03:26:55.580 would either want to be parents
03:26:57.860 or be good parents in the first place
03:26:59.160 I'm not promoting them to have children
03:27:01.600 necessarily but at the same time
03:27:03.360 it's like this is sick and wrong
03:27:05.180 and you're not going to
03:27:07.740 fix this by
03:27:09.360 doing more sick and wrong things to people yeah well and i like the the phrasing of sick and wrong
03:27:15.660 and um this is always what got libertarians thank you i'm i'm it's it's my phrase you can use it if
03:27:21.720 you want invented sick and wrong no one had thought it was always mine i do other people
03:27:27.380 used it before me but actually they were just referencing me there was a first guy to put
03:27:31.760 peanut butter and jelly together so it's two great guys i don't know i don't know if you know this
03:27:36.620 but i'm like wicked smart like i'm really no he's becoming trans this is what happens when
03:27:41.900 you talk about it's a cognito hazard um it's just faking gay all of a sudden you latch on to sick
03:27:48.240 and wrong and i think this is what libertarians would always get stuck in this mind trap because
03:27:52.580 they would have their opponents get them into these logic puzzles where it's like well they're
03:27:57.060 a grown-up they should be able to do what they want to do and then they get stuck in the age
03:28:00.820 consent argument and it's over uh but come back to baseline this is weird and sick and wrong and
03:28:07.520 everyone knows it and maybe i don't need to get into a debate about it i just i'm going to yell
03:28:12.740 at you until you fucking go away and and i think most people are at that point right now and it
03:28:18.740 doesn't need to be another logic puzzle this is sick and i don't like it and don't you don't need
03:28:23.440 to feel bad or inferior because you haven't written a fucking thesis paper explaining and
03:28:30.500 citing sources about why you feel this way. You're allowed to be reactionary. People think
03:28:36.000 that's a bad thing. But I think that's a good thing to be for most people. If you see a tranny
03:28:42.060 and you're repulsed, don't run away from that. Don't get stuck into an ideological Gordian knot
03:28:48.440 because like, well, why do you feel this way? I'm allowed to, and the way you would go about it is
03:28:53.400 like, okay, let's say you're in a public square and anyone's allowed free speech in the public
03:28:58.180 square but there's one guy who keeps screaming that he wants to rape your child that's legal
03:29:04.240 but am i allowed should enough people be allowed to like beat that guy to death yeah and that's
03:29:09.640 actually how you know you're a healthy fucking society sometimes you need people behaving
03:29:13.700 unreasonably if reason has been hijacked by something corrupt if something has been corrupted
03:29:20.700 the solution to that will look ridiculous sometimes but i think actually right now there's
03:29:26.500 enough percolating hatred towards the trans community i think most people are like my
03:29:33.880 prediction i shouldn't make predictions that's a fool's errand gonna do it anyway that's what i do
03:29:39.020 all the time don't worry when people talk about putting the woke away there's a running bet
03:29:44.380 between academic agent and uh oran mcintyre about are we gonna see the title of this that's the
03:29:49.820 title of this episode it's a good thing we actually got exactly the end of it i'm a great
03:29:53.980 guessed a lot of people don't know this just look everyone just appreciate me for a second
03:30:02.680 um but putting the book away it's like well no because will policies be reversed no will
03:30:09.960 the status quo be inverted no there is one morsel they will give you and that will be
03:30:16.620 the trans phenomena but my prediction is that will ultimately be blamed on white people
03:30:22.240 and it pains me to say that but there will be a day when we everyone shakes heads like that was
03:30:26.840 a weird thing we did what who who's to blame for that it was karen's and i use that uh phrase with
03:30:33.400 the full anger and sense of injustice because i do think that's just like an anti-white thing for
03:30:38.700 white women just blaming things on white women like i bet the trans thing is going to be blamed
03:30:43.020 on white women and just going to take all all the minority groups are going to say that this was
03:30:47.980 just a weird thing they forced on us and that that will be the woke being put away but it will be
03:30:53.800 another oppressive thing that's my belief anyway i've said that before i hope i'm wrong well in my
03:31:01.300 prediction i've even called jason's apple pie prediction and it really comes down to uh
03:31:07.080 understanding gerard mimetics is that we've the differentiation has gone so far that it has to
03:31:12.240 swing to something new so where's where's where's the differentiation from the woke it'll be it'll
03:31:18.180 be neotrads right so and this is my answer to that you know putting the woke away thing it's
03:31:24.400 not so much the woke will go away it'll be transformed or or transcended into the neotrad
03:31:30.360 where you're going to keep most if not all the general principles like
03:31:36.760 blair white will still exist and be allowed to exist um dave rubin will become almost a poster
03:31:42.400 child where it's like that's going to be the new acceptable homosexual relationship right where gay
03:31:49.440 pride will go back to being just like uh an observation rather than like get get the get
03:31:55.120 the porn off the streets it'll be like more sensible gay couples wearing sweater vests
03:32:00.320 buying children like uh and and i predict that uh in a very short period of time i think it's
03:32:07.760 happening faster than i even initially thought is that all those blue hair progressive people
03:32:13.440 in your family or you know extended whatever will one day wake up and become wearing frocks
03:32:20.720 and talking about apple pie recipes and become this new neotrad thing which i think now
03:32:29.080 is actually going to be
03:32:31.280 somehow modeling Peter Thiel
03:32:33.140 who is
03:32:35.000 homosexual but you wouldn't know that
03:32:37.400 without Gawker
03:32:38.160 you know sensible
03:32:40.880 almost sensible gay
03:32:42.340 AA talks about the sensible centrist
03:32:44.620 I'm talking about sensible
03:32:46.500 homosexuality
03:32:49.040 in a sense
03:32:49.740 for people who want to pay attention to this
03:32:52.960 I'm going to give one recommendation
03:32:55.240 and this is a very complex
03:32:57.260 issue i do need to get going soon but if people want to see where this normalization will emerge
03:33:02.880 from one will be the red pill dating sphere that's my prediction a lot of sort of weird
03:33:10.740 anti-woman stuff might come from there not right now not and i'm not like taking a minute like
03:33:16.460 fresh and fit or the whatever podcast but there's some there's something kind of percolating in the
03:33:20.520 red pill dating sphere the other one andrew tate andrew tate has been way too much way too massive
03:33:25.680 of a medic influence to be ignored so yeah yeah so i will say andrew tate who i i do not like
03:33:33.160 would be mainly responsible for that but not like you know getting a bunch of hoes on a panel and
03:33:37.940 laughing at them that's fine that'll be fine forever um but the other one would be the vitalism
03:33:43.300 sphere um these would be you know like a lot of the blank age blank people again no one in particular
03:33:50.400 but there is sort of a percolating homosexuality coming from that sphere.
03:33:57.060 And it won't look like what it looked like before,
03:33:59.340 but it will be like,
03:34:01.520 look at what elements of tradition it's attacking and what it might be
03:34:06.400 attacking is actually what the traditional family in a lot of ways,
03:34:10.160 that's how it's going to begin.
03:34:11.380 So watch those two spheres and watch the arguments emerging from the sphere
03:34:14.360 because the fact of the matter is that leftism intellectually doesn't have a
03:34:18.260 lot going on right now.
03:34:20.400 despite what people say,
03:34:22.040 Noam Chomsky is being fucking stomped
03:34:24.540 into the ground right now
03:34:25.640 in front of everyone.
03:34:27.020 It's almost sad.
03:34:27.520 I love to see it.
03:34:29.200 It's sad, but it's elder abuse,
03:34:31.400 but it's the proper one.
03:34:33.040 There's a lot of interest
03:34:34.620 in this side of things.
03:34:36.820 There's money that's a bit interested in us too.
03:34:39.060 A lot of eyeballs,
03:34:39.700 a lot of new, fresh faces
03:34:41.540 who are more interested in this.
03:34:42.940 However, that can also lead to corruption.
03:34:45.620 So when you talk about tradition, trad,
03:34:47.780 trad can be a fandom.
03:34:49.140 realize what is true and what is actually the the what is vitalizing versus what is just a fandom
03:34:57.340 you know like the wheat field thing like i want a trad woman well what what subsequent components
03:35:03.040 make up someone that has tried a lot of people don't ask themselves it's just a fandom it's just
03:35:06.860 an image it's just i saw this in a movie and i'm chasing it but they haven't thought about what
03:35:12.340 they actually want at the baseline what qualities they want and what qualities aren't are possible
03:35:17.200 right now you know because you can maybe have a lot of people would say having a dual income house
03:35:23.240 isn't trad but for a lot of people like in canada no one can afford a house like the
03:35:28.420 the circumstances and the constraints will dictate whether or not certain parts are realistic so you
03:35:34.680 need to figure out what part of trad is it just economic is it just larping or is it something
03:35:39.860 deeper and i would always encourage people look at what's deeper because it's those deeper things
03:35:44.220 that are going to end up questioned it's the fundamental relationships between men and women
03:35:49.200 that will be attacked or what role men should play in society and and what masculinity is that's the
03:35:55.400 stuff that's being reworked but it has this sort of oh remember when we used to be happy don't you
03:36:01.740 want to it wasn't the bronze age cool you have no fucking idea what it's like to be in the bronze
03:36:06.440 age you have no fucking idea or the 1950s which is like with the right of return for almost all
03:36:11.640 conservatives like i think a lot of this stuff is is to get the evangelicals on board because
03:36:16.820 the jews realize they've they've lost they're starting to lose people in the west and their
03:36:21.580 and their core uh supporters are even right-wing evangelicals yeah also keep in mind once the
03:36:27.880 boomers pass on the whole table gets wiped clean i'm not saying that's a good thing or a bad thing
03:36:34.140 but you're gonna there's a lot of things that are kept in place socially by boomers that won't be
03:36:40.140 there anymore like for example news media is going to fucking crater that means a lot more
03:36:45.000 than people think um there's going to be one less pillar that people can kind of gather around even
03:36:51.500 conceptually no more classified ads and papers that'll be weird yeah anyway i actually do need
03:36:59.300 to get going unfortunately i've had a fantastic time we could even talk about this for another
03:37:03.200 hour i'd love to come back if you would have me let's do it man uh we'll schedule in dimes let
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03:37:39.980 Thank you.
03:37:40.500 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.
03:37:41.400 Thank you, Dimes.
03:37:42.220 We will talk to you guys again.
03:37:46.480 Hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling
03:37:48.560 Toss salads and scrambled eggs
03:37:51.460 And maybe I seem a bit confused
03:37:56.020 Yeah, maybe, but I got you, Peg