Blood Satellite - JDavinci Vance Code Predicts Total Fleatearthplap Victory

00:00:00.000 As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a killer in your church! 0.99

00:00:16.800 Blood Satellite 0.97

00:00:18.360 I want to open with a joke that I saw.

00:00:22.300 I just saw it posted on Telegram, and the guy said, 0.92

00:00:26.300 fat jews go to synagogue but synagogue is spelled like cinnabon yeah 0.94

00:00:34.020 that's good i got the five eyes watching me right now but 0.59

00:00:41.600 can't throw me in the clink for that one no no no no that's that one's just factual it's an

00:00:47.800 observation i wonder how jews treat their fats do you think they're more or less accepting 0.91

00:00:54.960 I've never seen a morbidly obese Jew, like a bad one, like an American one. 0.96

00:00:59.580 But I've also never seen like a really fit Jew, I don't think. 1.00

00:01:03.260 I've seen a very, very fat Jew. 1.00

00:01:07.660 Really? 1.00

00:01:07.860 He just gave off the vibe, like when you'd see the world's heaviest man in the 1920s.

00:01:14.560 Right.

00:01:15.620 Where that's the one. 1.00

00:01:18.240 And he's very kikey. 1.00

00:01:21.640 he's got the little the locks on the side and he's wearing the black suit and uh so i don't know 1.00

00:01:28.580 like there is is it possible that a huge man is also jewish most definitely but the jews do not 0.81

00:01:36.460 claim him yeah the one that the rabbis i mean how how many baby foreskins do you need to consume

00:01:43.940 just from a caloric intake perspective yeah there's so much protein right there's so much

00:01:49.660 protein and so few calories that's incredible like you have to really respect the hunger at 0.99

00:01:55.200 that point i suppose and then how many jews had to starve to death for this man 0.98

00:02:00.320 like the meme of the guy cranking the pipe shut but it's just baby foreskins 0.87

00:02:05.920 it's like some mad max warlord the rest of them are in the desert brother

00:02:13.500 Immortan

00:02:19.320 Ezra 0.65

00:02:20.460 Immortan Shmuel

00:02:22.080 I can't even say their names 1.00

00:02:25.580 Get a life, Jews 1.00

00:02:26.720 Just Mad Max stumbling across 1.00

00:02:29.460 this evil fiefdom

00:02:31.840 and immediately leaving

00:02:33.080 wanting nothing to do with it

00:02:34.480 I wanted to talk about

00:02:40.460 buying a car like we just were

00:02:43.080 i'm trying to figure out if any of that frustration is content what do you think 0.98

00:02:48.360 dealing with the worst car salesman damn son where'd you find who is a very short filipino man 0.95

00:02:57.240 and who they always see him as though they have gelled hair and i don't know what that's about 0.99

00:03:02.320 they're born with it or something it's like they wake up with it at least so we go in me and my

00:03:07.160 wife we we our car we own outright and we wanted to trade it and it's pretty old and we wanted to

00:03:12.920 i don't need to give too much of the background here but we want in an accurate we have an accurate

00:03:18.600 i still wanted to keep that we're going to get an mdx which is a bigger one and we're going in for

00:03:23.300 test drive we're test driving two of them and they're same year same model similar enough

00:03:29.900 mileage but different price a little bit so we're going in there and the sales guy is giving us all

00:03:39.500 kinds of information that he shouldn't you know we walk in and it's just him and he's dropping

00:03:46.060 little things we're having a nice conversation but he lets us know that that particular dealership

00:03:51.660 only gets around 15 people a month so that means half the month it's empty yeah that means half the

00:03:58.720 half the month one person comes in a day and the other half no one comes in you you may very well

00:04:04.520 have been the first client he's spoken to in 48 hours yeah and just just don't let me know that

00:04:10.100 i'm trying i shouldn't be negotiating against myself but i shouldn't know that we're gonna

00:04:15.300 take out for a test drive and i forgot the question was but he says i'm like oh yeah my

00:04:19.280 boss is always getting mad at me because of this like don't tell me how mad your boss is at you

00:04:23.680 this but i'm thinking this is putting me in a very advantageous position because i'm negotiating 0.99

00:04:28.920 against a fool but the thing about negotiating against a fool is they don't know that they're 0.97

00:04:33.800 Anyway, we drive this thing, and everything is futuristic. 0.99

00:04:38.740 Now, I'll tell you what I don't like.

00:04:40.440 Even if you're driving in an automatic, they don't have the shifter anymore.

00:04:45.000 They clasp your hand around.

00:04:47.180 Everything is just buttons.

00:04:48.340 So you reach for it and press a button for reverse and park it.

00:04:51.860 No way.

00:04:52.780 I don't like it.

00:04:55.020 And here's what I know.

00:04:56.420 It's like what I wanted was a six-cylinder.

00:04:59.680 I wanted, like, an SUV that's a six-cylinder.

00:05:02.660 and i thought well if we don't get this we'll go we'll go get a ford we'll go get a chevalu we'll

00:05:08.800 look around for something comparable i don't know alexis maybe i didn't know until we looked it up

00:05:14.140 after that they're just not really doing that anymore what really six cylinders are like on

00:05:19.620 their way out this is what i'm learning why what because they're just trying to get everything to 0.81

00:05:23.920 be four cylinder that's just the what the fuck with a four cylinder you can't do anything with 0.65

00:05:28.860 I know, especially if it's big enough. 0.91

00:05:31.160 This is a pretty big vehicle, and it's a four-cylinder.

00:05:33.500 Mine's a current one's a six-cylinder, and that has gotten me out of a jam.

00:05:37.700 Yeah, same.

00:05:38.300 A lot of times, especially in the winter.

00:05:41.160 That's gotten me out of snowbanks that I see just fuck-up sedans.

00:05:47.420 The old place we used to live, I've gone out with my shovel 1.00

00:05:51.000 and gotten all kinds of hysterical women out of snowbanks 1.00

00:05:54.680 because they just thought they could drive

00:05:55.920 their cute little Kia fit in the snow.

00:06:00.240 I think this is, but apparently it's rare.

00:06:04.000 And this is what they're saying.

00:06:04.840 They're saying that the government,

00:06:07.260 the government, I don't know who specifically,

00:06:10.640 but it makes sense that they would want everyone

00:06:12.420 to have four cylinders,

00:06:13.080 or eventually everyone would be driving an electric car.

00:06:16.240 That's what they would want.

00:06:18.640 So long story short, it's just,

00:06:20.260 unless you're getting a truck,

00:06:21.760 but even then they love four cylinder trucks.

00:06:23.900 like they would love it if everyone was driving four-cylinder pickup trucks because they're

00:06:28.240 insane they're insane and want people to be upset all the time that's it anyway the problem

00:06:35.060 problem was that this guy we think we're in an advantageous negotiation position but you know 1.00

00:06:40.400 the interest rate sucks right now they're trying to fuck us on the trade in value of our car 0.97

00:06:45.720 same thing happens every single time so i'm coming in with a head full of nick rochefort clips 0.99

00:06:51.280 i know how to negotiate a deal you know i'm coming in hot and so selling a rug 1.00

00:06:56.640 yeah i'm selling yeah i'm just like fuck you're my enemy i'm coming in with you're my enemy 0.99

00:07:01.460 but i'm very cordial and they're they're trying to screw us on the trade value saying it's worth 0.99

00:07:08.160 x thousand dollars i didn't buy here's the thing we're accurate people do what an accurate person

00:07:14.000 is do you know who you're talking to we're nerds you know we're people who work in white collar

00:07:20.560 jobs and we do a lot of research on the car and we come in and you can get us in and get us out

00:07:27.100 if you don't try and lie to us and be treacherous but you know he's telling me like like i don't

00:07:33.660 know what it's going to cost to fix up my car i have the numbers in my head and you say like well

00:07:38.580 you know it's going to cost this much no it isn't and we want to make three thousand dollars on the

00:07:43.220 car you know at least so my answer to that is well i understand you want to make money

00:07:49.560 on that deal i don't want you to yeah i want you to i want you to lose money i want i won't have

00:07:57.180 money you say you want it i say what we've established that we both want things i want

00:08:02.160 your boss to keep yelling at you yeah i want your boss to be yelling at you and being disappointed

00:08:07.100 in you but he said i want to make some money so why what are you talking about this is the worst

00:08:14.940 sales guy ever come on man i need to make some money he's saying oh if you get it you know it's

00:08:20.200 going to sit on the lot for a long time well that sounds like you should hire better sales people

00:08:24.620 like why are you telling me this does this work on people does this work on people like this

00:08:29.860 trying to get you to buy a car based on what other cars might have to sit in a lot on his lot 1.00

00:08:34.200 Try to sell me my car and buy my own car back, you asshole. 1.00

00:08:39.260 But it's just, and then I said, okay, here's what we're going to do. 1.00

00:08:42.540 He gave us a number.

00:08:43.760 I came back.

00:08:44.440 Here's what I want to sell the car for, and here's what I want to pay for the new one.

00:08:49.380 And it's just a little bit less.

00:08:50.760 And what can we do?

00:08:51.480 And he says, we're not budging on either of it.

00:08:53.320 Do not.

00:08:54.620 Do not.

00:08:56.500 I'm going to.

00:08:59.060 I say, okay, we'll buy that.

00:09:01.000 Because then we're not talking.

00:09:02.100 We're not having a conversation. 0.99

00:09:03.240 and i'm not coming at this like an indian i'm not eating a meal and then asking for half off

00:09:11.560 just because i feel like it yeah that's what they do they just say and i somewhat respect the 0.88

00:09:18.040 audacity of it yeah you know just to eat an entire meal sit there for an hour afterwards 0.87

00:09:25.120 take a shit demolish the toilet and then ask for half or 100 sometimes they'll do that oh yeah 0.98

00:09:32.500 yeah yeah but i'm not doing i'm still being respectful i'm still have like a white man's 0.99

00:09:38.240 thing it's like okay look you're my enemy but you're still a child of god like that but what

00:09:43.960 i should have done i might as well have treated him like a demon because he's treating me like

00:09:48.980 a bowling pin he's treating me like a bag of sheared sheep's wool just like an item he doesn't

00:09:54.780 know what he's looking at when he's talking to me so anyway i'm not getting i'm just gonna fix

00:09:59.740 up my card have it till i die but he's treating you like a fleece he's trying to fleece you

00:10:03.820 i just naming items off the top of my head yeah a bag of sheep's wool it's a fleece it's a fleece

00:10:09.420 i'm i'm i am a fleece okay we have to move on i've spent too long i've spent too long

00:10:18.740 discussing not every guy wants to hear a good deal story yeah i love hearing a good deal there's

00:10:26.620 It's still no deal, so you've got to come back in a couple of weeks with the deal.

00:10:29.320 It's a non-deal story.

00:10:31.320 Also, this was a week and a half ago.

00:10:34.160 They're not calling back.

00:10:35.540 Oh, yeah, of course.

00:10:36.160 He's not that into me.

00:10:40.880 And it turns out I don't want him enough.

00:10:43.640 If I wanted enough, I'd go down there.

00:10:45.660 I'd start kicking in the windows.

00:10:47.400 Get your boombox out.

00:10:49.300 I'd come in like Donkey Kong. 1.00

00:10:52.000 Yeah, and with the boombox, because I want to fuck, because I'm lonely. 1.00

00:10:56.620 while your wife's waiting in the car 1.00

00:11:01.060 I want to fuck this little 1.00

00:11:03.200 Filipino guy 1.00

00:11:04.220 and we're going to try

00:11:07.140 to make a deal afterwards 0.99

00:11:08.560 I like an Indian 1.00

00:11:10.320 you're like an Indian 1.00

00:11:11.660 okay 1.00

00:11:13.580 after that he's like I want it for free

00:11:16.780 now I'm trying to think has it ever occurred 1.00

00:11:19.120 that an Indian 0.99

00:11:21.320 man has had gay sex with a Filipino man 1.00

00:11:23.280 the mind reels 1.00

00:11:25.120 that's not good at the negotiations post-coitus 1.00

00:11:31.360 just just a yucky train of thought yep this has been gay sex update 1.00

00:11:38.480 it's not even just news it's like what if there's this type of gay sex we have 1.00

00:11:45.300 a lot to talk about but have you been keeping up to date with the big dog shane gillis yeah man 0.99

00:11:54.760 it's unavoidable and it's it's like the with the cornell seven and then with the the what's her

00:12:00.200 killer kids lady like it's weird with twitter how it kind of it dominates everything for 72 hours

00:12:07.560 so yeah no you have not been able to avoid shane today so if you're on x there's two tabs in click

00:12:15.560 there's the feed that's for you that they curate and there's one that's just from your followers

00:12:21.400 and i didn't know that and both of them were filled with the same thing because sometimes

00:12:27.780 i'll notice that i'm getting especially upset at this feed and i'll look and say oh no this is the

00:12:33.420 one that x has given me full of people that i despise because i don't really block people i

00:12:39.200 just mute them or ignore them so i go over to mine but it's still people and just complaining

00:12:45.280 about shane gillis and i think a lot of people have heard about but didn't actually watch

00:12:50.680 the set or the joking question that everyone's upset about and i thought i would just let's

00:12:56.720 let's start with that right because i'm a fan of shane gillis i'll go so far as to say shane

00:13:03.360 gillis is the only comedian that i want good things to happen to there's a lot of comedians

00:13:10.080 that i know there's a lot of comedians that i used to like that i'm very annoyed by right now

00:13:14.920 Dan Soder

00:13:16.720 or any of the guys from

00:13:19.320 Comtown except Adam

00:13:21.420 Friedland ironically enough

00:13:23.000 but like a lot of comedians they're

00:13:25.020 bad people and

00:13:27.300 they're egotistical and they're pretentious 1.00

00:13:29.780 and they're very thin skinned 1.00

00:13:31.620 a lot of them and I think

00:13:33.500 comedians on average

00:13:35.500 deserve less

00:13:36.580 Dave Chappelle deserves far

00:13:39.320 less I don't hate look I think he's hilarious

00:13:41.460 I love watching him I'm just

00:13:42.820 I'm not a comedian person so

00:13:44.640 I don't know what is it really you know I don't know what he's like as a person

00:13:47.280 I don't know what his opinions are it seems sometimes he's left sometimes he's right

00:13:50.040 I can't really tell let me just say for the record

00:13:52.800 I also do not know him which is a very cruel little mean thing to say to

00:13:58.680 I'm acting like he's my good no

00:14:03.180 Know you and him are tight but like all right, so this is the joke in question 0.87

00:14:07.320 I try to go to a public gym going to the public gym is a fat guy especially in New York

00:14:11.500 It's a nightmare, dude. 1.00

00:14:12.440 It's just the hottest gay guys you've ever seen. 1.00

00:14:15.220 They're jacked, and they look at me like, yeah, right. 1.00

00:14:18.960 I know, dude.

00:14:20.660 Also, I haven't been to the gym in so long, 1.00

00:14:22.020 I didn't know women just dress like whores now. 1.00

00:14:26.260 Look, I'm sorry. 1.00

00:14:27.120 There's no other way to describe.

00:14:29.180 Have you seen it?

00:14:30.020 I've seen it.

00:14:30.520 The shorts?

00:14:32.080 Have you seen the shorts?

00:14:33.620 Those neon, they're like the only,

00:14:35.400 they're like artificial bait colored.

00:14:40.180 Underappreciated line.

00:14:40.820 that was a good bit the artificial bait color there's a depth that reference like what is like

00:14:45.540 like bait in a sense like it's it's like hazard color which it's supposed to draw you in the

00:14:51.780 wrinkles the wrinkles go like around the cheeks and all combine at the butthole

00:15:00.180 and don't look you're not allowed to look for real don't look

00:15:03.300 because they are filming i'm i'm in the background of like 10 tiktoks right now

00:15:10.820 so people latched onto that and okay like i'm looking at one right now here's just

00:15:20.160 that video was from a retweet and we'll just read right now shane gillis is painfully unfunny

00:15:25.680 didn't laugh at the kevin hart roast and i'm still waiting for a punchline you can for people 0.88

00:15:31.620 who don't know you can really detect when someone doesn't know comedy or give a shit about comedy 0.88

00:15:38.920 which is a dumb thing to know of course but even when patrick thomas had said this about me it's 0.93

00:15:45.100 like yeah i'm waiting for the punch line hardy har har so funny i forgot to laugh i i saw this

00:15:53.600 one take that i think like explained it a bit better to me um and i'll just read it right here

00:16:02.620 verbatim he says um this is from silenced on site this is the name of the guy he goes judging by

00:16:09.920 the number of hollywood influence peddling ding-a-lings going after shane gillis and high

00:16:15.200 profile dems leaning into the gang rape stuff some numbers have been crunched and it's been

00:16:20.800 determined that uh of all the lib rallying points the battle of the sexes anti-dude bro stuff is

00:16:27.580 one of the best fires

00:16:29.520 at the base with the most minimal risk.

00:16:31.800 So what he's saying is that

00:16:32.920 given the amount of celebrities

00:16:35.520 because there's lots

00:16:37.720 of actors

00:16:39.180 and commentators who just

00:16:41.480 descended on this and you saw the joke

00:16:43.680 it's nothing.

00:16:45.860 He spends the rest of the time calling

00:16:47.420 he's calling himself fat. He's like I'm fat 0.76

00:16:49.660 at the gym. I look fucking gross. 1.00

00:16:52.120 But women 1.00

00:16:52.660 by the way he's right. I don't know if 1.00

00:16:55.600 of you guys have been to a gym i haven't been to a gym in a while because i have a home gym but i 1.00

00:16:58.960 remember even back when i was going i'm like it is unreasonable what women are wearing and we know

00:17:04.480 why i don't need to get the whole thing of course they're doing it for a reason it actually is a flex 0.98

00:17:09.920 it's a flex that women use to make you avert your eyes they're saying i'm not doing it for them i'm 0.79

00:17:17.520 doing it for me i tend to agree with them they're doing it for them to feel power that they're 0.97

00:17:22.880 They're putting themselves in a space

00:17:24.360 where they're forcing you to avert your eyes

00:17:26.580 or they can make an issue out of it.

00:17:28.720 They can get you in trouble.

00:17:31.240 That's what this is about.

00:17:32.900 It's a power thing. 0.97

00:17:34.160 Sometimes they want to be ogled.

00:17:36.040 Of course that happens. 1.00

00:17:37.660 But the amount of women who are doing it, 1.00

00:17:39.340 I can go out dressed as whatever I want 1.00

00:17:41.340 and you're not allowed to look at me a certain way.

00:17:45.340 It's a power dynamic thing.

00:17:47.720 Similarly, I think this post is right

00:17:51.080 as they're leading up to the midterms in america but even going forward i really think the liberals

00:17:57.820 you probably might see that here in canada too but they're trying to figure out what their issue is

00:18:03.380 you gotta latch onto something and you can tell that the republicans have they still have migration

00:18:10.240 and they're going stronger with and you know deportations they're not talking about

00:18:16.380 THEY ARE GETTING THERE, THEY

00:18:18.380 JUST KICKED DOWN THE DOOR OF

00:18:21.380 ILHAN OMAR'S HOUSE.

00:18:23.380 DID YOU SEE THAT?

00:18:25.380 YES, I DID.

00:18:27.380 CONGRESSWOMAN ILHAN OMAR IS 0.99

00:18:30.380 DEFIANT AFTER FEDERAL AGENTS

00:18:32.380 RAIDED HER HOME.

00:18:34.380 WRITING ON X, SHE SAYS THIS,

00:18:37.380 THIS AS AN ATTEMPT TO TARGET

00:18:39.380 POLITICAL ENEMIES AND WEAPONIZE

00:18:41.380 LAW ENFORCEMENT.

00:18:42.380 I WILL NOT BE SILENCED.

00:18:45.380 investigation, this one being executed by U.S. Attorney Janine Pirro's office,

00:18:50.740 just looking into her financial disclosures after this, quote,

00:18:54.620 the combined reported value of two businesses tied to Omar's husband, Tim Minette.

00:19:00.340 It'd be great to see her get deported.

00:19:03.280 But let's say, what are the liberals going to latch on to?

00:19:07.220 Because it's not Medicare for all.

00:19:10.380 They're giving up on that.

00:19:11.880 all of their topics all their issues i think it's gonna be anti-dude bro or like anti anti-men

00:19:21.480 really just seeing how much play the lindsey clancy thing was getting and the connecticut

00:19:28.040 rape case all that stuff so i'm like this this is a political thing this is their angle because i

00:19:34.200 don't think they have anything else yeah this has to be something else you're just trying it's a 0.98

00:19:39.340 white guy who said some women dress slutty in gyms and the reaction to that is like oh so you're 0.98

00:19:45.480 telling it's disgusting that saturday night live would platform this misogyny that's what they're 0.98

00:19:50.140 saying this is so not what that is that this has to be something else yeah yeah yeah yeah so and 0.86

00:19:58.260 the gay men are getting upset about this and like you said in in the context of like this coming

00:20:03.060 right on the tail of the cornell 7 end of the clancy trial that they're all back to back to

00:20:07.740 back to back and they're all they're all kind of facets of the same issue which is women and 0.88

00:20:12.540 being held accountable for shit so it's not even a particular case because they lost me too 0.99

00:20:18.780 me too went nowhere but they still want to be out there saying that women are raped all the time 1.00

00:20:26.120 but it can't be from immigrants it can't be from blacks so they have an interest in highlighting 0.98

00:20:32.960 any case that's a white guy 0.96

00:20:35.980 being misogynistic.

00:20:37.960 Even if the misogyny is, like, hey,

00:20:40.800 would it be, I'm doing

00:20:42.120 a Shane Gillis pose right now.

00:20:43.800 I've got my fist in my palm right now.

00:20:46.200 I'm just going to be like, hey, 0.99

00:20:47.980 I'd like to not see your butthole for five minutes. 1.00

00:20:52.680 That's what the misogynists 1.00

00:20:54.020 are doing right now. 1.00

00:20:54.940 Could you please put your ass 1.00

00:20:57.260 away? 0.99

00:20:57.740 i just started getting out on women's cases on x they're complaining about it i'm just like 1.00

00:21:06.780 your ass is not more important than my human rights 1.00

00:21:10.200 i think more men should be baffling women with their language my my rights begin where your ass 1.00

00:21:20.240 ends yes and it must end immediately it's a biological thing from their perspective right 0.98

00:21:26.360 you're never going to stop them it doesn't like legislation isn't ever going to matter 0.99

00:21:29.640 if it's legal for women to dress like that in public then the only thing they're going to do 1.00

00:21:35.780 with it and they're almost all going to do this with it is they're going to get as sexual as they 0.98

00:21:40.260 can in public and they're going to use that as like a selection game where 99 of the men are

00:21:47.900 not supposed to look and they will shame them if they do and then the one chad who does look

00:21:53.020 gets to pick them up and carry her home over his shoulder right and that's the whole point like 0.99

00:21:57.880 from a breeding a mating like that's women cannot be allowed to make decisions for themselves i'm

00:22:05.300 sorry this is what you get this is this is what you get and look i was going to say earlier i was

00:22:10.220 i was shopping with my family a few hours ago and i was not at the gym and i saw this clothing in a

00:22:16.800 fucking supermarket so we are allowing it it has gone absolutely too far we do need decency laws 1.00

00:22:23.720 and we need women to be removed from the public space in many cases i think i think if you see 1.00

00:22:29.880 a woman dressed like that in a gym or wherever you should be allowed to run up to them put your 1.00

00:22:35.380 hand hovering maybe an inch away from their ass and just go not touching not touching not touching 0.99

00:22:42.100 not touching not touching and just follow them very carefully not touching them just like putting 0.99

00:22:47.220 it in their vicinity legally until something happens i've if i like if i'm at the gym and i'm

00:22:57.540 the testosterone's up i should if i see that and she's doing squats she's on the leg press i should 1.00

00:23:03.560 be able to just start screaming and no one can get mad at me and i get i start screaming and get

00:23:09.020 closer and closer and closer like a like a japanese horror film which which by the way

00:23:13.580 is your biological imperative so it's fair it's fair for you to just scream scream and cry and 0.58

00:23:20.220 stomp and throw things and gnash your teeth yeah look i believe in free speech she believes in free

00:23:28.860 peach i mean

00:23:33.260 did i tell you that i almost single-handedly i can't take credit for this in totality but

00:23:45.660 i was instrumental in killing an american jobs program i followed this i followed that live

00:23:54.140 yeah congratulations and i would not be you know patting myself on the back

00:24:00.780 like until like i was conversing with him and he admitted that let's just explain what i'm

00:24:08.160 talking about there's an individual on x who goes by fugitive caesar on sub stack he goes by

00:24:15.700 billionaire psycho which as far as i know is a reference to batman and he's been at for a long

00:24:21.160 time very popular writer accounts over the past while since Trump's second 0.88

00:24:28.660 election he really become one of these dissident frog Twitter MAGA guys and it's

00:24:37.040 only increased in volume or the past few months you know you've seen guys like

00:24:42.280 this like I'll give you some names that might mean nothing to you but mystery 0.58

00:24:46.540 grove uh publishing was one and um constantin von hoffmeister that guy sucks but people who

00:24:55.940 became esoteric about trump it's not just being maga it's being mystically maga and so the fugitive

00:25:07.860 caesar he started talking about how uh i'll read a post here he says if you're an american

00:25:16.160 business of any kind, please reach out

00:25:18.220 in the comment section if you're looking for hard

00:25:20.160 working, high integrity

00:25:21.800 qualified American professionals.

00:25:24.240 I can source you hundreds of smart

00:25:26.380 loyal, professional, competent workers.

00:25:28.820 What I need from you is a good

00:25:30.140 career, 65k or 0.70

00:25:32.140 more American, and direct

00:25:34.100 hiring authority. If you're sending

00:25:36.120 resumes into Soviet 1.00

00:25:37.900 girl boss HR, you might as well be sending 1.00

00:25:40.140 them to a volcano.

00:25:42.120 So here's this guy, and he's not a small

00:25:44.140 account. He's got

00:25:45.960 uh what 62 000 followers and however many of the subsect and you know these guys like to talk about

00:25:52.460 how they have connections in the white house and they network a lot so maybe hey um he was opening

00:26:00.960 the floodgates and without uh getting too much of my background or boring people to details i'll just

00:26:09.720 say that i've done you know i work in marketing and and you've worked in adjacent businesses and

00:26:16.880 you've been run your own businesses and stuff and you've hired people before and managed teams and

00:26:23.320 as have i and you know that to hire someone can take a long on-ramp you know it could be weeks

00:26:32.180 sometimes months he he was saying things like within the first few days of me announcing this

00:26:38.840 i have placed like 15 guys into high paying jobs that account for over three million dollars in

00:26:49.240 salaries that's what he's saying those are the numbers he was giving i said okay i'm like well

00:26:54.840 unlikely but maybe then in his own words subsequent posts in this he's posting once every half an

00:27:03.760 hour at this point people are saying that this has all the uh all the qualities of an adderall

00:27:10.700 binge or some kind of upper maybe i know nothing about his life but he was saying that i'm just

00:27:17.040 doing what enron did bad start continue he says i'm just forecasting future projections of possible

00:27:26.340 uh you know salaries just to show proof of concept or something i said well that's a lie

00:27:34.000 you know enron was doing that they shouldn't have done that that's the point of that story is that

00:27:39.160 they were they were assuming future profits and taking out loans and and betting on that

00:27:46.260 just wild predictions so you know what you were doing was taking a guy from x with a fake name

00:27:54.740 saying that he's not managing any resumes whatsoever

00:27:58.480 and just putting him in touch with a hirer

00:28:02.260 who is also not vetted, how could you,

00:28:05.400 and saying, there I go, what's the job worth, 100K?

00:28:08.060 Well, that's, I just got someone a job.

00:28:11.360 And I was just very politely,

00:28:14.220 look, because I am not against people

00:28:16.940 doing things like this, right?

00:28:20.080 Why not?

00:28:20.900 He's saying, I want to get my people jobs.

00:28:22.780 it's good if people do that i wish more more people did it right get our guys hired and

00:28:32.260 we're going to use nepotism for our people okay and so my criticism was more like

00:28:40.000 i think you're a liar here's one lie you told you told well it's a bucket of several lies which is

00:28:48.680 that you had you got anyone a job you've got no one a job because then you start changing it to 0.99

00:28:53.360 say i've got a lot of ongoing negotiations like no well that makes sense it's unlikely that you

00:28:59.220 got someone a job in a day what you do is you connect some people i've known a couple other

00:29:04.940 guys who've done something like that too who like to just put two people into a group chat and say

00:29:10.900 there you go i did it between the two of us we've we've been around that situation for a decade

00:29:16.420 and i don't know what your experience has been but mine it's been it does work sometimes right

00:29:21.460 but i mean it's one in 20 maybe of those pairings actually turns into a long-term job

00:29:27.140 so to just say like hey i got 15 guys that's 15 jobs no you might have got one but we won't know

00:29:32.620 till february so yeah that does the one lie he was telling the big bucket lie and the second lie

00:29:39.460 that he told let me see if i could pull this up he got in trouble because he made a post let me see 0.53

00:29:46.940 if i can pull this up here so he talks about bronze age pervert i am no fan or friend of

00:29:55.060 bronze age pervert but he knows him he's part of that whole circle of influencers and he said that

00:30:01.460 he had i had a good talk with bronze age pervert who i love so much this is him talking we're 0.51

00:30:06.460 bringing our guys in and getting them paid with serious long-term careers bronze age pervert has 0.60

00:30:11.440 always been our leader oh no and i want to thank him publicly for paving the way for everything 1.00

00:30:16.080 we're doing now oh the gay university jew is hardly yeah but but even though i dislike bronze 1.00

00:30:24.260 age pervert if there's one thing that i know about him is that he does not want to be seen as a leader 0.95

00:30:29.340 for a few reasons he's like academic agent and these guys were it might be for their own 0.67

00:30:36.220 operational security, their own

00:30:38.080 OPSEC, they don't want to be seen

00:30:40.220 as a leader to attract any sort of

00:30:42.160 negative attention, even though

00:30:44.000 they spend all their time telling

00:30:46.020 people what to do and what to think.

00:30:48.600 But I get it. I'm reading

00:30:50.180 that, I'm like, okay, he wouldn't

00:30:52.140 like that. You're lying

00:30:54.240 again. He's

00:30:56.120 saying that he's got a Bronze Age pervert

00:30:57.760 involved in this, and he's saying that 0.66

00:30:59.960 he's going to 0.84

00:31:02.040 share his connections, and Bronze Age pervert

00:31:03.960 says, no, I didn't. 0.96

00:31:06.220 and so here's this this is a great response he says hey i clearly fucked up on this i meant 0.55

00:31:12.800 i misunderstood the social dynamic and that's on me bap has always been my hero and i've always 0.94

00:31:18.300 felt a deep admiration for him has there been a more raped man 0.97

00:31:23.380 botched circumcision was this written by chat gpt this response hey i clearly fucked up on this i 0.98

00:31:34.620 misunderstood the social dynamic and that's 0.89

00:31:36.580 he does talk like chat gpd doesn't

00:31:38.760 it anyways i'm in the wrong here

00:31:40.660 i mean you were he was right to call

00:31:42.760 me out

00:31:43.260 look i don't want look i don't 0.77

00:31:46.740 want to piss on this guy i i've

00:31:48.740 read i don't follow him but like 0.86

00:31:50.640 i don't hate this guy i don't want to

00:31:52.580 ruin him but i mean that is it's funny

00:31:54.840 okay it's funny but

00:31:56.500 i said now i've caught you in two

00:31:58.720 lies you told a big lie there

00:32:00.620 and you're trying to say oh i misunderstood the

00:32:02.660 social dynamics not you made it up

00:32:04.260 I know what he's doing. He's moving fast and breaking things.

00:32:08.180 This is what someone who doesn't really work in business or the startup world, where that comes from.

00:32:14.520 But you heard people say that.

00:32:16.780 You said, well, this is just what you do.

00:32:18.540 You try and get momentum. Say whatever you can to build momentum.

00:32:22.140 I'm saying this guy's associated with it.

00:32:24.140 That gets me pressed. That gets more people involved.

00:32:27.260 And it's better to ask for forgiveness than beg for permission.

00:32:32.900 That's what he's thinking.

00:32:34.260 but that's what an amateur thinks that those are just maxims that you hear and so i said really

00:32:40.580 what happened is i caught you in two lies these are the two that i know of so now people think

00:32:44.820 you're a liar i told him that i wrote big long post saying that look what you're doing in theory

00:32:52.020 is good i wish it was real i wish you weren't lying i don't know what this is and the reason 0.99

00:32:59.860 i'm bringing all this up at all why am i even talking about this it's just because it's

00:33:04.820 indicative of a larger problem in our space because as i was talking to people a lot of

00:33:10.180 people agreed with me a lot of people disagreed with me and they were saying that like you're one

00:33:14.660 of these guys that over intellectualizes things and they didn't say this but i would say you know

00:33:20.340 paralysis through analysis that's one way to look at you overthink things and what you need to be

00:33:25.140 be as a man of action you need to go out there and do things it's better just to move fast and

00:33:30.380 do things than remain in stasis and come up with the perfect plan i get that i've spent a whole

00:33:37.620 career trying to get that out of me where it's i'll tell you what i'll give you some some advice

00:33:43.540 for people who are into this sort of thing it's really easy to write a business plan it can be

00:33:49.640 even fun writing a business plan you spend a lot of time at your computer doing your research maybe

00:33:53.980 you're at the library coming up with a perfect plan, a big, thick business plan full of market

00:33:59.680 research and your one-year plan, your three-year plan, your five-year plan, you have it down to

00:34:05.600 detail. It's easier to do that than actually start the business. Do the dirty work of opening the

00:34:13.580 accounts and getting the clients and building the thing. Because once it's out of your head and on

00:34:17.660 the page it kind of feels real here's my business I did it and so it's easy to it's the easiest

00:34:25.280 thing you can do is just sit with an idea because your idea is perfectly symmetrical

00:34:30.920 and perfect in your mind and then you write it down and then if you're smart you start noticing

00:34:37.480 the inconsistencies and you need to work that but you can get stuck in there and when I was younger

00:34:43.460 i would get stuck in there and this is with writing too this is with painting this is with

00:34:48.580 any creative endeavor or business endeavor if you're writing an article it is possible to be

00:34:54.820 on your 20th revision you could be on your you know 50th pass of your manuscript and it just it

00:35:02.580 doesn't make it better it's it the percentage of it its improvement diminishes even though it's

00:35:09.300 kind of getting better every time but it's like you're just grinding metal at that point but

00:35:13.860 it feels like progress it feels like you're perfecting something but it's part of being

00:35:20.040 a mature experienced individual is knowing when you know what it's not 100% there but it's 85%

00:35:27.200 that's good enough cut it off boom done send it out whatever it is start or throw it in the trash

00:35:33.040 and so like I this is all to say I'm the type of guy who would advocate for moving fast and

00:35:40.580 breaking things and just getting out there and doing something rather than trying to perfect

00:35:45.800 an idea and polish it up however you do need to they were the quote that was said to me

00:35:51.960 was like you just need to just act don't think I said okay just for anyone who's reading this

00:35:58.780 this is why i'm saying it now to anyone who's listening who anyone who might see this and say

00:36:05.020 his heart was in the right place and that it was everyone else's fault for not supporting him

00:36:11.080 enough i do want to say you do need to think a little bit you do you do when you're doing

00:36:17.680 something like this for people's lives and livelihoods you're you're you're beckoning them

00:36:22.980 to put their livelihoods in your hands you do have some responsibility you can't confuse move

00:36:30.420 fast and break things with fake it till you make it move fast with perfect thank you for summarizing

00:36:35.800 it even better that's perfect move fast and break things is where you take your time and your money

00:36:41.120 and your sweat and you try a whole bunch of things and then whatever works it's it's on you and if

00:36:47.220 you lose you lose and if you win you win but that's how you get there right fake until you make it is

00:36:52.040 where you lie and you hope nobody notices and if it all fucks up you parachute away and it's

00:36:58.440 somebody else's mess to clean up and the reason we usually talk about fake until you make it is

00:37:02.920 like at a job or in a career or in a space where you you frankly don't really care who you hurt 0.84

00:37:08.380 like i've done fake until i make it with clients who i didn't fucking like i've done it with jobs 0.77

00:37:13.000 that i didn't like but you're talking about like saving our guys like creating jobs and providing 0.92

00:37:19.800 you know assistance for families and homes for young men that you can't fake it till you make

00:37:24.820 it if you're offer it if you can offer it if you can't offer it then don't say that you can because

00:37:30.760 people are going to rely on you and they're going to be worse off for having trusted you than if 0.99

00:37:34.980 they had never heard your fucking name before so no like it's it's a fuck yeah i don't want i don't 1.00

00:37:39.840 want to eat this guy too bad because i don't know for all i know he's fucking 21 years old and he's 0.99

00:37:43.860 just like you said he was on adderall that night or something who knows right but yeah it's a 0.99

00:37:48.660 cautionary tale don't don't fucking yeah he spent uh disproportionate amount of time lambasting the 0.78

00:37:55.380 people who were criticizing him rather than just doing it because if it was true that you'd 0.96

00:38:01.600 accomplish all these things it wouldn't matter if people were kind of politely disagreeing saying

00:38:06.440 that what do you do this this sounds suspicious and people had uh tricked him by offering a fake

00:38:13.360 job one person gave what sounded to be a pretty bad job it was uh just to summarize it was like

00:38:19.960 i'm looking for a couple guys to work on a ship and he was listing cartel territory in mexico

00:38:25.300 and he posted the job he said here here's a reliable client it's like well he's not reliable

00:38:31.840 it's a internet guy a random person who made up a job and that was enough for you and if that were

00:38:38.540 if he was trying a little bit harder to not be found out and not make a spectacle out of you

00:38:45.500 that could have been antifa and that's the argument i made to him i said you're not vetting

00:38:50.040 the hirers all these people if there was any antifa campaign just to get people's names from

00:38:56.180 the magosphere just to get them in trouble they could do it and they wouldn't need to lie that

00:39:02.460 much you're asking for no credentials from anyone and that's why he had said at one point he's like

00:39:08.340 i'm not going to use twitter as a jobs program anymore people around here completely hate and

00:39:13.700 reject the idea we had a one week trial run and the results are in i need to respect the crowd

00:39:19.420 and stop alienating my oldest and best friends he's not talking about me there i assume other

00:39:24.140 people i need to do the right thing and shut this whole project down in a transparent and honest

00:39:28.360 manner and then i basically i'm not gonna read my whole thing but i said you know if this was such

00:39:33.580 slam dunk i said it'd be easy to provide a case study give me one just tell us one person who you

00:39:39.980 placed in a job for 300k whatever crazy number you're saying and then shut us up hide their

00:39:49.180 name but figure out how to obscure it and then and then that will work and then he's like i he

00:39:53.820 says to me i hear you you raise good points if someone got hurt by this it would have been my

00:39:58.300 fault i he says i listened to what you said and called it off so i'm not saying it was just me

00:40:06.940 but according to him it sounded like i contributed significantly i wasn't out there calling him 0.95

00:40:12.300 a loser faggot or an insane jew or anything that i i came to it and said like i'm the type of guy 0.95

00:40:19.340 who likes this sort of thing but i just want other people to know that what could happen is what did 1.00

00:40:26.220 happened which is he walked away from it and then everyone said off everyone else sucks for not

00:40:32.940 supporting you because these you have to watch out for these sorts of people who they don't really

00:40:41.340 want the program to succeed but they want to be seen as the type of person that would do something

00:40:47.660 like this it's not you don't want to do something you want to be seen as the type of person who does

00:40:53.260 things you see what i'm saying and there's a lot of people like that's a status play

00:40:58.460 and then it's you against the world it's it's he'll say things and people like him like i want

00:41:03.580 to win i guess you guys don't want to win for all patriots y'all a patriot that's that i don't like

00:41:09.740 yo crab bucket i'm posting about my own life that's rare patriot sit there lame treat the 0.99

00:41:16.620 The power's in my damn patriot. 1.00

00:41:18.360 No job for you, hatred. 1.00

00:41:20.180 Lap Trump in my area.

00:41:21.880 Three leaders, mask off. 0.84

00:41:23.600 Love money, love money.

00:41:25.320 Cash flows to anons.

00:41:26.800 My network better.

00:41:27.700 You panicking, you griper.

00:41:29.340 You ankle bite.

00:41:30.460 Pay homage or step aside. 1.00

00:41:32.020 Ungrateful slave triad I don't like. 1.00

00:41:35.660 Instead of a patriot. 1.00

00:41:39.180 That's that shit I don't like. 1.00

00:41:42.300 A snitch patriot. 1.00

00:41:43.760 no one else wants i'm the only one who wants to win and it's a crab bucket mentality 0.51

00:41:52.960 of losers that i'm daily harassed by i'm like no because i told a couple people as they were

00:42:00.800 complimenting him and hating on all the haters i said you know guys if you really believed in 0.89

00:42:08.900 this project and you believe that he was saving america as he said he did you wouldn't accept this

00:42:15.020 surrender right if it were true that he had accomplished all these things you wouldn't just 0.99

00:42:20.660 kick back and say i'm bare luck next time like you'd be pissed off you'd say what the fuck are 0.97

00:42:25.120 you doing you're leaving people jobless and you you got the secret sauce he got the recipe what 0.99

00:42:31.880 are you doing but i'm like you guys don't believe this none of you believe this was real none of

00:42:37.140 you guys believe this is anything this is some kind of meta commentary it wouldn't be surprised

00:42:43.200 if all this was made up i don't think it was but he could have made it all up as commentary on

00:42:48.800 who wants to win there's winners and people who want to win and losers people who don't want to

00:42:55.840 win they're the under man as lothrop stoddard would say that's not me though i'm a guy who

00:43:02.740 likes to win so treat me as such and that's it that's all that was accomplished at the end of

00:43:08.240 this a guy on the internet got his reputation built up as a doer the end and i don't know like

00:43:17.120 that that to me that's so indicative of of where we're at with like people want to accomplish

00:43:24.540 things you know it should be easy to get people jobs i'm writing a vanguard's journal article

00:43:31.260 about this presently let's say there are guys out there who could give our people jobs and they're

00:43:37.980 data analysts and they are you know systems architecture guys whatever it might be it's 0.67

00:43:44.140 yeah but they're not why aren't they well they're cowards we there are right-wing billionaires 0.97

00:43:52.380 they're all cowards then the left billionaires they're not cowards that's the difference 0.98

00:43:57.900 the people on the right are rich guys they like to pretend that they're just more 0.98

00:44:05.500 attuned to the return on investment the roi they act like well you know the left-wing

00:44:10.860 bleeders they don't care about throwing good money after bad they don't care you know what we want is

00:44:16.060 are viable businesses we have higher standards and i just think no you don't i think you're just 0.99

00:44:21.420 fucking cowards i i i think i think you were scared to be associated with us and now you're not 0.96

00:44:28.460 now that's why you're all interested in talking about re-migration now 1.00

00:44:32.800 that's like that's why you're now willing to hear heterodox theories about covid you're just

00:44:39.600 because it's not that heterodox anymore well i was going to say like the the liberal billionaires

00:44:43.760 probably aren't that less cowardly it's just that they're on they're on the current side of history

00:44:48.440 right like they're allowed to do these things like they can fund rioters to go burn buildings

00:44:53.200 and nobody will ever charge them or even bother to investigate them versus

00:44:56.920 you know on the right it's completely different so yeah everyone's like oh they have a patronage

00:45:02.000 network it doesn't it doesn't need they do we could have that and i i don't want to play this

00:45:07.560 game where we accept that the problem is us i'll give you an example of something that we were

00:45:15.060 talking about you and me just recently um there's been a few guys in our circles and i include

00:45:21.100 myself in this because i published a vanguard journal article a while ago about the um i forget

00:45:26.880 if the titles were like the intergenerational wealth extraction engine is basically how to get

00:45:31.180 money out of boomers how to get access to all that capital that's bound up in boomers and their

00:45:37.900 properties but also their fraternal organizations and we're talking about the masons the elks

00:45:44.700 different lodges clubs the these these organizations that are popular boomers the

00:45:50.900 Shriners the Odd Fellows whatever and they're dying they've been they got leadership they have 0.65

00:45:57.280 member roles but they've been in decline and it was built on the belief that these boomers they 1.00

00:46:04.500 want their organization to survive they're looking to pass the torch all these young people they 0.99

00:46:08.660 don't want to join but if a few of them wanted to join they could get in there they could assume 1.00

00:46:12.960 leadership positions once the boomers pass away and they can inherit these organizations and have 0.72

00:46:18.280 all of those the member data and maybe a lot of money right and then the more i looked into it 0.64

00:46:25.840 more carefully i was testing my assumptions it turns out a lot of younger people had the same

00:46:32.000 idea as it turns out there's no shortage of young people who've been trying to join these

00:46:39.120 organizations and the boomers want nothing to do with them see i accepted the boomer narrative that

00:46:45.680 all these young people they're lazy they're not showing up they don't want to do that they don't 0.66

00:46:50.240 want to put the hard work in no they are knocking on the doors and the boomers aren't letting them 0.98

00:46:56.720 in and i realized they're just not interested in passing the torch at all i was once again giving

00:47:03.280 boomers too much credit and accepting their worldview that no one no one showed up and you

00:47:09.060 hear all these stories about there used to be these old processes and practices that boomers 0.76

00:47:15.260 had and they didn't they didn't pass it on that that just died out with them you know there's no

00:47:20.640 apprentices as if there probably weren't 20 000 people trying to apprentice with these boomers 1.00

00:47:27.520 and they just kept saying no i really think it comes back to boomers being loser faggots 1.00

00:47:32.660 and boomers being the most despicable generation like i i just i really think that's what it is 0.99

00:47:39.220 and so not not to a man right there's obviously good boomers but in aggregate this is how they 0.73

00:47:43.760 behave you can't deny this is how they behave and when they are the majority in these organizations

00:47:47.520 you're gonna have a couple of examples where they'll bring young guys in but

00:47:50.720 the vast majority of the time at least three quarters of the time that you're right they

00:47:55.660 would rather see the thing die under their leadership and go down with the ship then

00:48:00.260 bring somebody new in but allow it to change well like i'm gonna say 100 boomers because 0.78

00:48:06.820 they will reject me saying this right if i went to like my grandmother and explain what i'm

00:48:13.280 explaining to you she would say well we should just go and meet him and give him a firm handshake 0.99

00:48:17.320 just like dumb shit dumb oh yeah no they'll close ranks around their generation if you bring it up 1.00

00:48:22.240 for sure just a bunch of waste my time nonsense i'm like i just fuck you you're like cops you're 1.00

00:48:29.420 fucking blue wall of silence your fucking floral print wall of silence anyway yeah i've never really 1.00

00:48:37.080 been an entryist i've always thought that it's a little bit silly i've always held out hope that 1.00

00:48:40.600 there are places where you can get in and look i just bought a company from a boomer who essentially

00:48:46.460 for like a dollar or i mean it's seller financed but i just bought a company from a boomer so i

00:48:52.780 know a boomer who was willing to train me in the company and sell the company to me um but my exam

00:49:00.200 my kate my like my experience has been that even in this case it was only after years of slogging 0.98

00:49:08.220 and the deal that i got was a deal and i did get a deal but it wasn't like a fuck you deal it was 0.96

00:49:13.320 like i'm still gonna have to work for the next five years to make this thing actually happen 0.98

00:49:16.280 and that's just to get a paycheck okay so if you think that you're gonna join the shriners or the

00:49:20.700 masons or whatever the fuck and as the new guy who's 30 years younger than the average and doesn't 0.96

00:49:26.720 know all the internal politics and internal relationships and ted's married fred's sister 0.99

00:49:30.640 like you don't you're not part of any of that okay you're not going to just seize the reins

00:49:34.640 you're going to pay your dues you're probably going to pay your dues longer and harder than 0.97

00:49:38.580 those fucking guys did and then you're hoping against hope that by the time you're 55 there's 0.99

00:49:45.460 anything left for you to turn around and control and send downstream to the rest of us it's not 1.00

00:49:51.940 worth it you're much better off look at it this way all else being equal if you're working for

00:49:58.880 them it's an uphill battle even if you get in even if they let you in you're going to be fighting an

00:50:04.660 uphill battle against them for a decade if you start your own thing obviously it's not as it's

00:50:10.420 not a shortcut right you're going to have to put more work up front but you're never going to fight 0.99

00:50:15.280 an uphill battle against some entrenched asshole who has no clue where you're coming from i think 0.94

00:50:20.580 guys like you or i would need to do that because when i would entertain these strategies i would 0.98

00:50:29.000 say you know this hypothetically this could work this is before i just abandoned it entirely as a

00:50:34.880 lost cause but i thought is that something that i would do god no because do i want to spend the

00:50:41.640 next like five years 10 years doing this because that's that's it's a commitment to do this you

00:50:48.060 need to find someone that's really committed and really wants to do it and does it make sense to

00:50:53.940 infiltrate that organization or just start one of your own because you know as we start to game this 0.80

00:50:59.740 out we're thinking that okay you get into these these boomer clubs and organizations and you get 0.59

00:51:07.860 access to their network what is their network it's other boomers and retirees but they're not

00:51:14.140 making connections with new businesses with new organizations like that their entire network is

00:51:21.100 dying and withering because they have no interest in forming new relationships so what are you even 0.94

00:51:26.820 inheriting yeah inheriting a fucking graveyard and so and then i would think about like is that 0.99

00:51:33.180 something i even want to do on my weekends it's different if it's the if it's a veterans 0.98

00:51:39.080 association i understand that if it's a legion hall okay but if it's anything else if it's the 0.77

00:51:45.180 shriners what the do you want to do that do you want to do that every fucking weekend i bet most 0.62

00:51:50.740 most people don't and and and i'll extend that even to the good secret organizations that people 0.98

00:51:56.720 talk about like the skull and bone society right the skull and bones how many presidents vice

00:52:04.560 presidents diplomats important people have been in the skull and bone society at yale i believe

00:52:12.640 it is might be wrong but there's there's also a harvard version of that and then you look at what 0.93

00:52:19.120 they get up to it's not very secret you can see their rituals it just seems so gay and boring 0.90

00:52:26.400 like it seems stupid and they get together and they do student things they get a big 0.98

00:52:31.440 stein of beer and sing a song from the 1930s it's beyond the boys down to our favorite pub 0.99

00:52:39.440 shut the up not not that there's anything wrong with it but wasn't the whole point to this that

00:52:46.640 you're gonna like what are you doing again you're seizing power no no you're the you're the new kid 0.96

00:52:51.680 and they're gonna make you drink and you're gonna do the things that they want you to do for the

00:52:54.800 the next four years also i understand why people would think well there's nothing wrong with that 0.99

00:52:58.720 i'm saying there's something wrong that's stupid and corny like this is gay i don't want to spend 0.99

00:53:03.040 weekends with these and then wait wait wait our hold on our secret group isn't going to have a 1.00

00:53:07.500 special song that we all sing it is do mud wrestling as initiation and naked roll around 0.94

00:53:12.220 the mud will guys piss on you it's just it's just a bit it's just a bit too gay it's yeah but there's 0.99

00:53:18.140 all that gauge i'm like this is stupid man shut up and then the thing is then they say well now 1.00

00:53:22.520 we're brothers you're my brother for the rest of the day why like i like i believe we all gotta 1.00

00:53:29.340 we gotta fuck the 14 year old and then we're all brothers right like no you're gonna kneel naked 0.99

00:53:35.080 before this senior at yale and he's gonna read from an old book and it's like now we're brothers 1.00

00:53:42.240 for life it's but there's nothing you can't leave guys it's not the mafia they're not going to kill

00:53:47.900 you if you leave like this is made up but you call each other brothers this isn't a brotherhood

00:53:52.380 what do you do but it's what it is it's a networking game it's it's like i want to be in 1.00

00:53:57.860 a place where other rich people go that's all it is but then they're used but just fucking dumb 0.99

00:54:03.040 like shut up i'd rather just be what the japanese do everyone just gets wasted with each other 0.99

00:54:08.820 and that's the brotherhood that's basically what you're trying to do but with a bunch of esoteric 1.00

00:54:13.780 nonsense on top and homosexuality the japanese just get drunk and fall asleep on the subway

00:54:20.500 that makes sense to me more than this has anyone actually thought about it because we talk about 0.95

00:54:26.360 these things in the abstract like we need to rediscover mutual these fraternal organizations

00:54:31.580 and mutual aid like that you don't even understand them you're you're gesturing to just a yearning

00:54:39.440 of a misunderstood past you're an outsider looking into a world that you don't really 0.95

00:54:44.040 understand saying i want that do you actually want that what would you fucking do there what 0.83

00:54:47.980 would you do with that i i just have no desire for that stuff and maybe i'm broken okay maybe i 0.95

00:54:55.160 don't get it and by the way you people are assuming that it's all white guys no it's not 0.70

00:55:00.000 yeah we saw that with with the fucking cornell seven what a great story that was yeah just 0.96

00:55:07.700 a hose being hose everyone latched onto that there's nothing to say about that story by the 0.98

00:55:13.660 way nothing we get a story it's women have become african-americans i'm as unfortunate as it is to 0.74

00:55:25.740 say that because even on this show we don't really talk about black crime that much there's a lot you

00:55:32.680 could say there's there's some new indignity that occurs every single week but we don't talk about

00:55:39.500 because we said enough you could template our response couldn't you what is there what is 0.96

00:55:45.500 there left to say about the latest atrocity visited upon white america from black hands 0.70

00:55:53.820 right same thing with women what what are we supposed to say about the latest outrageous 0.90

00:55:59.420 female lie that went too far just imagine what we're going to say we said it there's no update 1.00

00:56:07.180 we all know what needs to happen we need to strip women of the rights okay done that's it that's 0.96

00:56:13.500 that's the take but up but up but up yeah yeah there you go but with the cornell thing what i 1.00

00:56:21.900 learned with that story was by the end of it i don't i fell for the same trap that i think

00:56:28.540 everyone fell for which is i assumed because it was a frat it was all white guys

00:56:35.260 nope maybe two out of the seven were white then it was like a couple asian guys a couple hispanic

00:56:41.900 guys one guy's from dubai it's a multi-ethnic fraternity yeah does that change the narrative

00:56:48.460 obviously it does everyone wanted these guys hanged because they thought it was just a bunch 0.91

00:56:53.900 of white preps oops one of them's chinese he's the guy who called the girl a chink what are you 0.95

00:57:02.140 gonna do how are you still as mad i bet you're not are we still is our side as invested not anymore 0.56

00:57:12.460 people keep up odds it's it's not all a bunch of white chads it's not a bunch of like handsome 0.57

00:57:17.580 white chats i don't care anymore 1.00

00:57:19.100 so a bunch of guys that would fuck my girlfriend that's stupid i don't care anymore 1.00

00:57:26.220 did you see the conservative conference they had in israel with old old mr keeperman yeah i saw this 1.00

00:57:36.640 oh lomas he was just one of i guess 50 speakers they had and by the way i we went so hard on 0.95

00:57:44.580 this fucking jew when he was outed and everybody's yeah but he's nobody's one of the good ones he's 0.98

00:57:49.660 one of the good ones and he's helping us he's on our side right we got so much flack for for pissing 1.00

00:57:55.540 on this fucking guy for being an obvious jewish infiltrator pretending to be one of us here he is 0.98

00:58:01.820 in israel guiding them on what on how to recapture the right wing because currently jews aren't doing 1.00

00:58:10.700 so well in the zeitgeist yeah this is great because i saw his video a clip of his speech

00:58:18.940 and then he was speaking about what you just described and then i saw three other

00:58:25.180 three others at least because i didn't see them all but at least three others

00:58:28.460 saying the exact same thing about here's what jews need to do to get non-jews back on side 0.86

00:58:37.100 and this is a conference 0.98

00:58:39.480 national conservatism

00:58:41.660 had a conference in

00:58:43.380 Tel Aviv in Israel

00:58:45.100 and it was all about American politics

00:58:47.860 so right there that's

00:58:49.660 highly amusing

00:58:50.440 and they brought in the leading

00:58:53.420 names of being Jewish

00:58:55.160 all to get together 0.52

00:58:57.460 and say everyone hates us

00:58:59.500 what are we going to do

00:59:00.520 oh god everyone hates us

00:59:03.760 I don't know why

00:59:05.080 and they all got up in this many of them said the exact same thing we've been relying too much on a 0.80

00:59:10.740 victim narrative i mean i i think this is the one he's going to say here the holocaust isn't working

00:59:16.800 anymore guys we gotta stop talking about the holocaust and some people said that people i

00:59:22.380 respect saw that and said you know what he went in the lion's den that was a brave thing to say

00:59:29.720 went to the lions then he's one of them come on he's one that's first of all second of all

00:59:35.200 many of them said the exact same thing so it wasn't that brave third of all this is all in

00:59:39.840 the interest of figuring how to subvert you they're just saying we've gone too far right

00:59:44.940 that's what i can't understand people watching this and being like oh wow lomas is really going

00:59:48.360 to bat for us he he's what is his motivation the things that he's saying why is he saying them

00:59:53.560 he's not saying them as an american defending american interests he's saying them as a jew

00:59:58.580 defending international Jewish interests. 0.92

01:00:02.520 And don't take my word for it. 1.00

01:00:04.320 Listen to the fucking speech. 1.00

01:00:05.300 Let's see this. 1.00

01:00:06.120 This is just one clip of a much larger speech by here.

01:00:08.520 Such a picture gives us a very poor account

01:00:10.160 of how most Americans on the right actually think.

01:00:12.700 Instead, the majority of Americans, on the right especially,

01:00:15.780 harbor a variety of complicated views on Israel,

01:00:17.920 often inchoate and lacking in any detailed knowledge

01:00:20.440 or sustained attention.

01:00:21.680 They are at present suspicious of the value

01:00:24.220 of our country's geostrategic partnership.

01:00:26.020 They are exhausted by efforts to use the Holocaust or Jewish suffering generally as a moral obligation to support Israel.

01:00:33.240 They are completely unmoved by accusations of anti-Semitism and any hardline approaches to disavow and shame Israel's critics and even those who soberly advocate for a more restrained foreign policy.

01:00:45.020 These conversations cannot be off limits. 0.54

01:00:47.160 So, he's instructing all the Jews there, like, here's how to engage with America.

01:00:54.920 We can't be, others, I'm looking at another one right here. 0.65

01:00:59.780 Never says we, though.

01:01:00.840 He says they, talking about Americans.

01:01:02.940 He says they, they, they.

01:01:04.600 Here's another guy.

01:01:06.160 His name is Gadi Taub.

01:01:11.740 He says, we, the Jews of Israel, have a great problem with progressive Jews abroad,

01:01:16.840 promoting immigration and we should start calling them out before the anti-semites do before

01:01:24.920 because we have we have lost the left and we're also losing the right i shared this everywhere i

01:01:30.680 could because there's so many great clips from this conference but there's a lot of admissions

01:01:37.800 in here let's discuss we jews of israel have a great problem with progressive jews abroad

01:01:45.240 promoting immigration so this is the first admission of something that we've been accusing

01:01:50.760 them of for decades by we i mean the far right not just us loads of people he's admitting

01:02:01.000 that progressive jews have been promoting immigration he calls them progressive jews

01:02:05.720 we'll just say jews they denied that up until this point it seems like this is the first like

01:02:12.200 open admission i've seen in quite some time right am i wrong yeah because no one else is booing him 0.73

01:02:19.720 hissing him he's admitting jews push immigration around the world and so we have to start calling

01:02:27.560 them out before the anti-semites do which is they believe that we don't know yet like they're trying

01:02:34.440 to act like they're getting ahead of something which is so amusing but he says here we lost the

01:02:40.360 left and we're losing the right now that implies that they had the left right and they have the

01:02:48.440 right and they're losing the right they had both both sides again that's something that people like

01:02:55.000 us have accused them of we've been saying that forever that the whole thing is controlled

01:02:59.880 opposition it's two two sides being run by the same group and yes we've all observed that they're 0.68

01:03:04.440 on the fucking ropes right now so i mean it's a true statement they got together and said

01:03:10.320 everyone hates us right now and we're weak what can we do to make people like us and what they did 0.98

01:03:16.880 is they across many different speeches admitted to everything we've accused them of again by we

01:03:24.600 i mean people on the far right and i don't think i'm not expecting any sort of validation about

01:03:32.560 expecting and i told you so of course we've been right about a lot of things on the show in the

01:03:38.320 past may predictions came to pass but hey i didn't bet on it i didn't put ten thousand dollars on it 0.95

01:03:43.860 so fuck me right otherwise what do i expect right pat on the back you knew that wasn't coming it's 0.96

01:03:51.380 just i i would love some acknowledgement from the mainstream that we've been right about everything 0.99

01:03:57.880 yeah and and this is what i was actually getting to earlier that i completely got off track about

01:04:05.120 um i was going to write a vanguard journal about um these people with money and influence that

01:04:12.640 could have chosen to bequeath some of that to people like us and chose not to because

01:04:18.780 in my opinion they're too cowardly and they're too weak we've been directionally right about

01:04:27.180 everything we were the ones correct about covid now i say we were correct in general were we

01:04:35.740 correct in every particular no were they putting microchips in the vaccines to turn us into literal

01:04:43.340 zombies no however i maintain that that's just a limitation of the technology not limited that's

01:04:49.860 not that they don't have the motivation to do that they definitely they would love to do that

01:04:53.720 they probably tried yeah they're they're working on that right now i bet but some of the we said

01:05:00.520 some we're people predicting billions dead by 2023 okay i hear you um but we've been we're

01:05:09.400 directionally correct when the rest of society was diametrically opposed to us on covid

01:05:16.280 on israel on mass migration all of our opponents have admitted that they're wrong

01:05:22.840 on all these topics and so my communication with adjacent or you know millionaires billionaires

01:05:33.800 that are kind of bumping up against us now or interest in what we're saying i just want to say

01:05:39.240 we've been right about everything you've been wrong about everything that's okay i would just

01:05:44.760 like some acknowledgement about who was more correct than you for the past 15 20 years what

01:05:53.400 do we need to do to prove to ourselves that this is where the smart money should go we we have the

01:06:00.040 jews on the ropes now you i bet a few years ago you thought that couldn't happen we got the whole

01:06:07.240 the whole world caught up with us do you understand that just in the whole world

01:06:13.960 talks like we talk five years ago yeah we're so used to conservatives chasing the liberals

01:06:21.080 everyone's chasing us again i'm not taking credit for all this stuff of course there's

01:06:25.800 a lot of content creators that we don't even like are responsible for this as well but like

01:06:32.040 i don't like using the terminology we're winning i don't believe in winning as a process i believe

01:06:37.880 in victory and the path to victory but i don't like getting energized by the feeling of winning

01:06:45.740 that's that's not real to me but i'm going to say like we're on the path to victory

01:06:50.280 the dude what the fuck do we need to do to get access to some of that money what what song and 0.98

01:06:58.320 dance what soft shoe bullshit do i need to do for you people do you want do you want to win 1.00

01:07:04.460 do you like victory 1.00

01:07:06.060 do you like making money

01:07:08.280 why don't you bet on the people that have been right about 0.99

01:07:10.700 fucking everything about everything 0.97

01:07:12.720 ever 1.00

01:07:13.260 it's us what the fuck else do you want 0.97

01:07:16.700 I mean and I'm talking 0.96

01:07:18.880 to people that are not

01:07:21.060 leftists they're not

01:07:22.620 our opponents it's people

01:07:24.520 with influence and capital

01:07:26.820 who might not

01:07:28.820 be as radical as we are but are maybe

01:07:30.880 on the way there

01:07:31.920 right or or at least listening in not listening to the show but you know attuned to this space 0.97

01:07:39.620 you know i don't mean i'm just like just like with the boomers i'm like i'm trying to fucking 0.96

01:07:45.100 help you we're trying to we're the only ones that aren't trying to destroy this society when they 0.90

01:07:52.820 were ripping down statues of sir johnny mcdonald you did nothing you did nothing you said nothing

01:08:00.080 it was us think about charlottesville remember that all those guys the david dukes the guys from

01:08:10.040 the right stuff.biz andrew anglin hundreds of people went down there to defend the statue of

01:08:16.080 robert e lee we've said this on the show before i'm going to say it again all these conservatives

01:08:20.660 were were aghast at the visage of robert e lee's face being melted down well where were you it was 0.99

01:08:29.940 only the nazis who went there to defend the fucking statue they were right it was the bad guys 0.99

01:08:38.180 the bad guys are defending your american heritage and what did you do nothing what did you do 1.00

01:08:43.060 try and lock them into prisons forever get them debanked make an example out of them

01:08:48.180 none of that money went to help them and they were the only ones trying to defend

01:08:53.060 your cultural heritage so we're like we're what the else do you have people losing their lives 0.97

01:08:59.880 their livelihoods being debanked persecuted prosecuted where's this fucking right-wing 1.00

01:09:06.200 money i'm just calling them what they are a bunch of faggots stop talking like oh we just haven't 1.00

01:09:12.960 heard the right idea yet no you're fucking cowards i'm sick of pretending that they're not i'm sick 1.00

01:09:17.560 talking like we just need 1.00

01:09:19.540 the right combination of words

01:09:21.420 you're a bunch of 1.00

01:09:23.520 faggots that were brainwashed 1.00

01:09:25.440 just like all those liberals 1.00

01:09:27.560 that you're probably talking like you're better 1.00

01:09:29.440 than right now all these fucking 1.00

01:09:31.020 liberal snowflakes you're a 1.00

01:09:33.460 liberal snowflake 1.00

01:09:34.460 fucking blow me 1.00

01:09:36.420 now we're getting more popular we're dragging 1.00

01:09:39.620 the Overton window to our side

01:09:41.560 now you want to talk like

01:09:43.480 I'm listening 1.00

01:09:44.920 how about you get on your fucking hands 1.00

01:09:47.340 and knees because guess what you know ivory towers burn like every fucking thing else 1.00

01:09:53.340 you're not safe you're not safer than the rest of us you fell for the exact same brainwashing 1.00

01:10:00.060 you're gonna sell fall for the exact same rape by niggers you want to start listening to me 1.00

01:10:06.680 i'm tired i don't want to listen to you little dynastic families little laurentian elites 1.00

01:10:12.940 little billionaires with nothing to say nothing to think your little fucking nepo babies you can't 1.00

01:10:18.800 throw a million dollars at your son that he won't blow up his ass and you're not you're not talking 1.00

01:10:23.760 to people who are actually on the pathway to victory okay let's see where that goes i i'm not 0.99

01:10:30.600 even trying to make friends anymore and there's like p like elite theory guys we're like we just 0.99

01:10:34.680 need the patronage network no we don't nope no fuck them i don't care and you we've said this 0.93

01:10:41.960 so many times you many many times that the patron network is not a one-way street it's not like 1.00

01:10:47.440 they're just gonna show up one day and drop a bunch of money in your lap no strings attached 0.90

01:10:51.680 you work for them they're the senior partner you get into a patron you're just fucking owned by 0.99

01:10:56.840 them you if you can't see that side by side with all of these fucking guys that we always complain 0.99

01:11:02.320 about that have been bought out as soon as they get a little bit of money they change the way 1.00

01:11:06.660 that they're singing why because of the money idiot that's the point to the fucking money 0.99

01:11:11.160 they give you the money and then you say what they tell you to say so no you don't i you don't 1.00

01:11:16.440 really want the patronage network i don't think you really do now that's not to say you don't

01:11:19.920 want a patronage network but you don't want the patronage network you don't want the machine that

01:11:24.980 those guys are a part of what are you going to do with it you're going to buy yourself a house

01:11:28.420 fantastic but you're not going to achieve the goals that you ostensibly have today those goals

01:11:32.980 go up the window window as soon as soon as the uh the money shows up when we talk like this we

01:11:37.820 really sound like bolsheviks and i get that whereas like there's some of the elite theory

01:11:43.180 guys like we need to appeal to them what are the bolsheviks do what we're gonna do is rob banks 0.99

01:11:48.460 we're gonna do is rob banks what about the elites well we're gonna kill them and we're gonna hang 0.99

01:11:51.980 their bodies from the light posts because they asked the exact same question that we're asking 1.00

01:11:57.740 what do we need you for i've just established that you're bringing nothing to the table

01:12:02.940 intellectually you've been wrong about everything you placed a bunch of bad bets

01:12:06.860 you got us into this mess what do i need you for like you said we're going to be living in the

01:12:11.260 pocket of a billionaire right you want to come down here and offer me a deal but the deal is

01:12:15.260 that it's the filipino car salesman there's no negotiation it's the boomer negotiation

01:12:19.660 you're going to give me a little bit of money just enough that i never get to achieve what

01:12:22.780 i actually wanted and in exchange i work for you now no that i don't want your

01:12:26.860 deal i'm going to build something else and when it all burns you're not going to be included

01:12:30.540 you're not going to be on the lifeboat so it's like well i'm going to be buried with my money 0.96

01:12:34.940 i'll dig it up i'm not above that i'll dig up your body and i'll sell your bones you don't 0.97

01:12:42.940 do you understand how insane we all are guys we're gonna find your you know your fenced in 0.99

01:12:50.140 family plot we're gonna dig up your bones i'm gonna find i'll take all your teeth i'm gonna 0.95

01:12:53.980 sell that i don't give a you think i'm above anything no new friends and i'm below everything 0.97

01:13:00.620 that's my mantra

01:13:03.040 I'm going to get your money 1.00

01:13:05.460 when you're raped to death by niggers anyway 1.00

01:13:08.000 I'm going to fucking get your crypto 1.00

01:13:10.140 wallets 1.00

01:13:10.780 I'm going to go live on your island, you'll be dead 1.00

01:13:13.880 I'm not going to do anything to you 1.00

01:13:15.320 I'm going to let your best laid plans consume you 1.00

01:13:18.160 then I'm going to get the fucking cash 1.00

01:13:19.620 and I'm going to immediately trade for bullets 0.99

01:13:21.740 because that's going to be worth more

01:13:23.480 by that point, Canadian dollars

01:13:26.080 yup

01:13:27.700 okay, okay buddy 0.92

01:13:29.880 you want a bunch of canadian dollars no i'm going to put it all in fart nigga coin and hollow points 0.89

01:13:39.160 that's my that's my and i'm going to be like 47 when this happens great great strategy perfect 0.74

01:13:44.520 strategy that's my retirement strategy anyway so there's some things i wanted to cover

01:13:51.400 that i didn't get to especially this one might as well talk about this since i don't think i'll get

01:14:01.020 to the article i want to review at this place called hard pressed north it's called selling

01:14:09.040 the sovereignty lie uh it's about how the breakdown of kuzma cleared the field for global

01:14:16.240 megafunds it's about canada it's about mark carney um it's about carney when carney is first elected

01:14:26.480 some close friends of mine colleagues we'll call them were banking on something they termed the

01:14:32.400 carney pivot which was that hey he's had a liberal party but it's a new day for the liberal party

01:14:39.520 after justin trudeau and it seems that he's gonna be pivoting on a lot of issues that are in favor

01:14:47.600 of our principles you know he seemed to be taking a different approach to energy and and the alberta

01:14:55.600 oil sands and he's making appeals to heritage canadians and things like that i said okay

01:15:01.600 look he might be one of us and those very same people were just recently saying it seems that 0.98

01:15:10.720 the carney pivot was short-lived um i'm not gonna name anyone specifically because who gives a shit 0.88

01:15:18.940 but it uh just sets the the frame here for how i want to discuss mark carney which is i've been 0.90

01:15:27.040 hot and cold on him in the past i see him as a competent political operator but i think we've

01:15:34.020 always been skeptical about who he is and what he represents and what his true agenda is without 0.97

01:15:39.440 getting into any city of london bank of england shit which is shady and nefarious on its own of 0.85

01:15:47.620 course but i'm looking at an article here in the cbc carney wants canada to join europe's 0.95

01:15:53.880 erasmus plus program what is it and this is all about canada i don't i haven't even looked that

01:16:01.240 deeply into this it just seems so ridiculous on its face how we're trying to join the european

01:16:08.760 union but as like an associate like we're part of uh like a special designation to be like in spirit

01:16:20.520 part of europe you've heard about this right yeah yeah of course yeah it seems like it's simply to

01:16:28.200 spite trump of course but it is humiliating for canada to me just in principle like yeah we're 0.99

01:16:35.940 gonna spiritually join with you we're not in europe what the fuck are you talking about this 0.99

01:16:41.820 this is stupid but one of the consequences of that is that we're going to join this or he wants to 0.99

01:16:49.360 join this erasmus program which um i'll just read it here one of the many details of the suggested 0.99

01:16:54.560 new partnership are left to be ironed out carney specifically pitched canadian involvement in

01:16:59.300 erasmus plus when he which he delivered at a speech in the european parliament in strassburg

01:17:04.700 france on thursday uh canadian membership of erasmus plus and this is quoting carney

01:17:10.460 would give your your students and ours more opportunity to learn some of the world's top

01:17:15.060 universities to broaden their horizons and to build those lasting ties which will sustain our

01:17:20.660 alliance in the future so what it is it's a open doors uh student sharing program so it's it's

01:17:29.000 allowing uh students university college students to just immigrate freely to canada as they would

01:17:36.540 throughout europe which to me is just opening the doors for more mass migration because why would

01:17:42.200 why would we want that is there is there any way to interpret that are there a lot of people at

01:17:48.800 oxford that are desperate to come over here that haven't already come to canada like i thought we

01:17:55.060 already had a special you know partnership with with the anglosphere largely the irony is is the

01:18:03.000 only people that we have a cultural relationship with are the uk and they're no longer a part of

01:18:05.980 the eu anyways that's actually a great like why like i wouldn't why would we want this you know

01:18:11.460 carny you pitched this deal to us which i'm not totally against by the way the idea of becoming

01:18:15.720 closer to the eu not against it on its face but you pitched it as an economic plan but the very

01:18:20.840 first thing we hear is like oh we're gonna make sure that students studying across the eu can 0.97

01:18:26.220 freely come to canada no no no no no no no fuck you buddy we want steel and copper we want you to 1.00

01:18:33.020 buy our cars what else can you like can we trade beer recipes maybe come on we don't want fucking 1.00

01:18:39.320 bodies leave the bodies out of it unless you're going to take unless you're going to take some 0.98

01:18:42.580 of the indians we can sell you the indians we're going to get more indians this way that that's 0.99

01:18:46.840 the only thing that happens like that that's what's in it for them what's in it for us this

01:18:52.320 deal is we get distance from america but specifically trump what what does america what

01:19:00.140 does europe get out of this at all right what does any partnership with china what do they get out of 0.96

01:19:05.440 it well china gets to dump a bunch of their fucked up evs into our market and flooded what does europe 0.93

01:19:11.560 get probably a place to send all their indians otherwise i actually don't know what they get 0.99

01:19:16.640 out of this about letting us in with such expediency right we haven't made it clear what 0.99

01:19:23.700 the continent of europe is getting out of this and also there's to my understanding there's no

01:19:28.840 details on any of this yet right this is all just you know announcements and and fluffy talk at

01:19:33.520 conferences it's not like there is even a deal with any kind of there's no numbers on a page

01:19:39.040 right and are there i don't think so uh i don't like my point is it could be this all could be

01:19:45.420 nothing like this could roll and then we'll just forget about it in mid-2027 and then it was

01:19:49.700 nothing because it seems like it's moving quickly but every time that i hear an article they're 0.86

01:19:53.680 like oh we're still working out the details okay so nobody has actually agreed to a single fucking 0.70

01:19:58.180 number yet it's just we all love to talk about it because we all hate trump absolutely and then 0.57

01:20:05.320 there was this article which it's very very long we're not going to get a chance to cover right now

01:20:10.320 but um i'll just read the last part here it says whether viewed as an international or sorry rather

01:20:17.900 whether viewed as an intentional strategy or the unintended friction of a geopolitical breakdown

01:20:22.860 the ultimate destination of this shift remains remarkably consistent while private players like

01:20:27.520 Brookfield is trying to make huge profits from buying up struggling Canadian businesses along

01:20:31.920 the way, the bigger story goes well beyond any single investment firm. Instead of relying on

01:20:37.160 open, low-cost trade of the United States, Canada, under Carney's leadership, is moving towards a

01:20:42.380 system where the government and massive global investment funds team up to run national economic

01:20:47.720 strategy. Not surprising, while still chairing Brookfield, Carney helped shape the, quote,

01:20:56.300 maple fund a leaked 50 billion dollar pitch to blend 36 billion in canadian pension money

01:21:03.120 10 billion from ottawa and 4 billion from brookfield into quote the largest ever private

01:21:10.220 pool of capital dedicated to investing in the canadian economy with brookfield running it and

01:21:15.800 collecting the fees the pitch landed one week after trudeau named carney his economic advisor

01:21:21.020 prompting the logic to flag the conflict of interest in print before the fund even had a

01:21:26.580 chance to close now as prime minister the 25 billion canada strong fund mirrors that exact

01:21:34.460 same blueprint giving him the power of state to build the very system he tried to construct from

01:21:40.260 the corporate side eight months earlier by stepping back from traditional low-cost trade

01:21:45.420 of the United States, Canada isn't just reacting to tariffs, it's executing Carney's life's work.

01:21:51.820 Taxpayers absorb the initial financial risks, while mega funds and global investors

01:21:56.460 step in to build and run the country's core industries. His current strategy would seem

01:22:01.640 to be the ultimate real-world test of the stakeholder capitalism model he championed

01:22:06.860 for years on the World Economic Forum's Board of Trustees. A managed economy where government

01:22:13.060 policy sets the direction public money de-risks the deal and global asset managers run the show

01:22:20.000 which would be completely in line with what we know about carney his career his history what

01:22:25.940 he's tried to do before and where he's taking the country what we think about all that do you think

01:22:32.900 that's realistic absolutely absolutely i think i think that's been in the cards even before carney

01:22:38.540 I think that's I mean, look, there's there's an element of Canadian history with the way that we have our I mean, we don't call them state owned enterprises, but they're, you know, crown corporations, right? There's an element of this. Canada's kind of always been run this way. And so there's always going to be an element in the Laurentian elite that's going to be pushing in that direction. So, of course, and as you say, he was part of the WEF pushing stakeholder capitalism for decades. So, of course, he's going to be the guy who finally does it.

01:23:04.440 yeah and so the article is selling the sovereignty lie on hard oppressed north

01:23:10.060 that's the substack this would have been published in august of this year 2026

01:23:15.320 um so just the role of global mega funds in the economic future of canada and and that's

01:23:24.220 the sovereignty it's sovereignty from the united states which is great news for some 0.59

01:23:33.400 but it comes at a cost breaking from america to run into the arms of china better or worse 0.84

01:23:41.820 i tend to say worse what about all the basically siding with the world economic forum

01:23:47.580 is that is that better or worse or the same as america you know what i mean like it's i don't

01:23:53.760 know like it's it's a what none of this is is sovereignty i want us to stop using that word

01:24:00.500 yes yes like it's it's it that's to enliven people like us but just a heritage canadian

01:24:09.980 that doesn't work on me anymore nothing nothing you people say works on me anymore

01:24:14.580 the jig is up i got it we're all hip to you all right um before we move on to the book review

01:24:25.300 I just wanted to remind people that this November the 7th, we will be hosting a live recording of Do You Even Read, our sister show.

01:24:36.800 Me and the Prudentialist will be in Dallas, Texas.

01:24:40.420 And you can find tickets for that on our Eventbrite page that was posted on our social media.

01:24:46.960 My ex is at Legally Ironic.

01:24:49.800 I've also been posted on Substack.

01:24:52.320 Follow the Vanguardist Journal.

01:24:54.280 I've got a new article going up soon related to some of the things we brought up this very episode.

01:25:01.880 Yeah, go buy your ticket now.

01:25:04.180 It's getting close.

01:25:05.600 We've still got a few tickets available.

01:25:07.800 It'll prove to be great fun.

01:25:09.340 I'm trying to get a setup where there's a mic that people can use in the audience so they can just get the live chat experience and just yell shit out as like a form of super chat or something.

01:25:23.960 and interact with the show um yeah and that that's the main news there are you excited to hear about

01:25:32.220 dallas in the show i am yes i am i got buddies that are going everybody's telling me about it

01:25:37.260 exciting once people see the venue i think they're going to be pretty impressed we have not released

01:25:43.100 the venue location at present you know um some people even the people we know in dallas they're

01:25:50.560 Like, oh, I'm in the section of town you're in.

01:25:52.780 That's kind of the liberal area.

01:25:56.300 Like, Texas liberal or Toronto liberal?

01:26:00.100 Yeah.

01:26:00.420 You know what I mean?

01:26:00.900 Like, I don't know what's a liberal in Texas, right?

01:26:06.940 Is that, like, a Portland lib?

01:26:10.140 Is that, like, an Ottawa lib?

01:26:11.540 I just, is it a flounce your cowboy hat?

01:26:16.640 I don't know.

01:26:17.180 it strikes me that their version

01:26:19.620 of a shitlib would be closer

01:26:21.720 to our conservative 1.00

01:26:22.900 shit that might be just as bad 1.00

01:26:25.740 their version of a shitlib is 1.00

01:26:33.280 just a fucking drunk rapist 1.00

01:26:35.140 alright so 1.00

01:26:38.720 I read this book and

01:26:41.640 I don't have too much to say

01:26:43.860 about it because it's

01:26:45.780 interesting it's a historical account acutely focused on one man and his life story and i'll

01:26:56.360 hold on a second the title is the british way of war julian corbett and the battle for a national

01:27:06.020 strategy this is by andrew lambert and i had this book recommended to me by a few people

01:27:12.140 and i found the title enticing and i didn't really know what exactly it would be about

01:27:19.660 and if i had to just briefly summarize it and see what i liked about it it was about this this

01:27:28.580 individual julian corbett and his influence in a british military strategy but specifically

01:27:36.600 naval strategy and there's this there's this comment in the book about how you know he was

01:27:44.720 he taught at military colleges and he he wrote essays and wrote books and this was a student of

01:27:52.560 war and he he was interested in modernizing the the the military and this was leading up to world

01:28:02.500 war too and world war one i believe and so he saw it lived through a transition of the type of war

01:28:09.820 that was being waged but he was always pushing this idea that was a response to klaus witz

01:28:17.660 and klaus witz he was the definitive name in war theory and there's much about

01:28:25.100 klaus witz that everyone should read it everyone should take it seriously it is still relevant but

01:28:31.340 he made the argument and the military did adapt to this by saying that it was a very german way

01:28:39.820 of approaching war and it was focused more on land war and its obsession with total war

01:28:47.000 and he was making the case that we need a different sort of war because the territory

01:28:52.940 is different our approach has to be different we're a very naval nation always have been

01:29:00.200 we should explore more amphibious options and we should embrace the blockade we should embrace

01:29:08.440 trade as warfare it's less about you know the the totality of war and more what can we do to

01:29:15.500 control resources right it's a distinctly british way of approaching war can we operate more

01:29:23.540 kinetically from the ocean, do more targeted strikes rather than mass armies taking territory."

01:29:31.460 In a war of unlimited political aims, where the loser stands to lose everything,

01:29:35.780 the enemy will only surrender when he has been disarmed. Rather than bleeding him dry,

01:29:40.740 Clausewitz argues that it is more efficient to attempt the enemy's disarmament

01:29:44.500 by pitting one's entire force against his in decisive battle.

01:29:47.700 Later in his intellectual career, however, Clausewitz began to pay more attention to

01:29:54.340 the idea of the limited war. Limited wars are characterized by one or both sides limiting

01:29:59.680 their political aims, by demanding territory, for example, rather than regime overthrow.

01:30:06.480 With limited aims, both sides operate under cost-benefit analyses which lead to points

01:30:11.160 where further sacrifice ceases to be worth it. Surrender is therefore not based on whether

01:30:16.000 one is able to resist but instead on reaching that point where achieving the aim would cost

01:30:20.580 more than one is willing to spend so it just starts here it says this book is an intellectual

01:30:26.320 biography of sir julian corbett and his concept of a distinctive british way of waging war

01:30:31.340 a limited maritime method focused on economic pressure that proved effective in limited and

01:30:38.040 unlimited conflict one that addressed british needs rather than copying continental methods

01:30:43.440 that used massed conscript armies in restricted geographical contexts seeking victory by knockout

01:30:50.660 blow he introduced historical scholarship and legal expertise into the education of the royal

01:30:57.240 navy influenced policy and war planning and produced a body of literature that transformed

01:31:01.820 the writing of history and strategy yet for much of the past century his reputation has been a

01:31:07.320 battleground between the proponents of total war on land and in the air and those who think

01:31:14.180 a limited maritime strategy has been and remains the best model to address Britain's peculiar

01:31:19.520 needs.

01:31:20.360 And you'll see that even in our spaces right now. 1.00

01:31:22.640 You'll see adherents of Clausewitz that say total land war is inevitable, that is true 0.99

01:31:28.580 war.

01:31:28.940 but i i do see his more kinetic warfare embraced by america uh and i do think you can draw a

01:31:39.660 straight line from this theory into fourth and fifth generational warfare which we covered

01:31:46.280 the book i believe was fifth generational warfare or fourth generational warfare i want to say

01:31:51.880 fourth right i'm pretty sure it's fourth general fifth generational warfare is tick tock right

01:31:57.040 i i don't you i think you are right actually i think it is fifth generation short and that is

01:32:02.200 tiktok and that's that's more like um mind control new sphere yeah psychological programming type

01:32:09.560 shit but fourth generational warfare and we covered a book published by castalia press that 0.85

01:32:16.000 was that that was more america's foray into the middle east we're talking about hearts and minds 0.99

01:32:23.560 to me for general warfare is the total appropriation of the revolutionary model

01:32:30.020 being that you had revolutions political revolutions bolshevism even hitler's revolution

01:32:38.120 in germany there was an era of the revolution uh that really traumatized institutional power

01:32:45.640 and i really think that that was completely absorbed by the center of power and deployed

01:32:52.000 as a weapon throughout the globe so that's where you get color revolutions revolution is something

01:32:56.880 that we seed in our enemies to disrupt them to drain their resources and confound them it's

01:33:04.720 something that can be implanted or triggered in target populations it's just revolution as a form

01:33:10.560 of warfare and everyone can do that to one degree or another and i think fifth generation warfare

01:33:16.400 That was more emerging as advanced psychological warfare using, like, nootropics and, like, actual biological manipulation.

01:33:30.260 COVID is probably fifth generational warfare, or it was a lab leak of a type of new biological warfare

01:33:37.740 that's supposed to be the targeted sicknesses and targeted deliriums, things introduced to the water supply. 0.98

01:33:46.400 fucking weaponizing like literally tick tock you say that you might have been joking but 0.97

01:33:51.740 that is what no no i'm serious like tick tock the way that the chinese run it right it's essentially 0.99

01:33:55.920 it's a it's an op on on the united states it's an op on western nations on on our children

01:34:00.580 yeah and so people think about warfare as you know our army conquers your army and to be fair

01:34:06.940 that was what much of warfare was throughout human history around the world but i found it

01:34:12.320 interesting the way they were approaching war which is them saying it's more about control

01:34:16.640 what do we want do we just want to roll up and blow them up and listen to the lamentations of 0.99

01:34:26.420 their women and do a bunch of barbarian shit some a lot of guys on our side would say that 0.99

01:34:31.740 or is it actually just about control can we just affect trade can we lock them off can we use 1.00

01:34:37.500 blockades can we use sanctions can we strike quick from the sea use amphibious assaults and

01:34:45.240 then retreat and you know there might not be as much glory in that it's a more modern sort of

01:34:51.880 warfare but i think that's the trajectory it's taken i really think you know america in the

01:34:59.280 middle east it was trying to behave more connectively it was bad but it wasn't vietnam

01:35:03.600 You know, the Battle of Fallujah, obviously, was bad, but it's not as bad as Russia versus Ukraine right now, I don't think, right? 0.99

01:35:14.260 That is a Klaus Witzian fucking total war, meat grinder, just man against man, just shit show, just a carnival of horrors. 0.99

01:35:29.040 A carnival of carnage, if you will. 1.00

01:35:33.600 A real dark carnival. 0.51

01:35:37.240 Is Russia v. Ukraine the first juggalo war in spirit? 1.00

01:35:45.440 Damn. 0.99

01:35:46.620 You're right. 1.00

01:35:48.900 When you're right, you're right.

01:35:50.780 Anyway, he goes on here.

01:35:52.820 He says, Klaus Witz's famous aphorism that war is a continuation of policy by other means.

01:36:00.960 only appeared novel in the context of an autocratic military power.

01:36:06.180 No one in Britain in 1830 would have considered civilian control of war novel.

01:36:11.600 For the previous 150 years, elected ministers, not monarchs or generals, had settled strategy.

01:36:18.300 The key issue in strategy is to understand the political outcomes those battles and campaigns were intended to achieve.

01:36:23.960 the classically educated british elite had long been familiar with

01:36:28.200 thucydides is how i always say it thucydides discussion of strategy in which the business

01:36:35.140 of the general included naval and combined operations the athenian strategic model of

01:36:40.160 economic warfare and amphibious power projection to obtain strategic advantage by location resources

01:36:46.620 or money was essentially identical to that of britain so he didn't invent a new type of war

01:36:52.540 you know but he was a student of history and said the athenian model would be different than the

01:36:59.340 spartan model corbett's mental world would be shaped by the late victorian age and i like this

01:37:05.580 part especially early on was talking about what he was trying to bring to the table intellectually

01:37:11.500 said court's mental world would be shaped by the late victorian age and the experiences of

01:37:15.660 his formative years this was particularly evident in the romantic medievalism that both he and

01:37:21.900 and William Morris encountered in Marlborough's Gothic Revival Chapel amply reinforced at Cambridge.

01:37:27.440 It did not matter that the Corbett family had only just arrived at Gentility. 0.87

01:37:32.200 Although Nouveau, they were rich enough to make the transition. 0.97

01:37:34.680 In his brilliant evocation of the lost age that shaped Corbett,

01:37:38.600 Mark Girard emphasized mental and material influences exemplified by the obsession with Arthurian romance

01:37:45.240 expressed by the King and William Morris' designs.

01:37:49.980 this heady mix of fact fantasy high culture and more than a hint of high church shaped a class

01:37:57.500 and a generation so that's the type of person that was designing military strategy you know

01:38:04.560 it was a mix of these very anglo influences and you know an obsession with the medieval era and

01:38:11.720 of rome that would mirror i think just exclusively the people on our side right now politically right

01:38:18.240 That used to be the entire nobility and the entire elite class in these countries, but now it's reserved just to the margins.

01:38:27.260 Fischer is a radical, Corbett is a very progressive liberal, and they see Britain's future not

01:38:34.040 as an imperial power, but as the head of a freestanding Commonwealth of Nations, in which,

01:38:40.640 as the different countries reach a political point, they become essentially self-governing.

01:38:46.040 And the one thing that will unite the world, the former British Empire, in the future will

01:38:50.740 be mutual dependence on sea communications and commerce. The ties will be all the stronger 0.90

01:38:56.900 for not being based on the pulling up of a Union flag

01:39:00.560 and the blowing of a trumpet every morning.

01:39:02.760 There'll be ties that bind because they are ties of mutual interest.

01:39:07.180 He says alongside his historical output,

01:39:09.740 Corbett joined contemporary debates about the future of the empire,

01:39:13.740 domestic reform, and British security needs

01:39:16.140 in an increasingly militarized world.

01:39:18.660 After 1902, he focused on teaching strategy to naval officers

01:39:22.820 and forming statesmen in shaping national doctrine.

01:39:26.240 His uneasiness about the future was widely shared. The Boer War disasters of Black Week in 1899 shook the foundations of Victorian complacency, prompting the remarkable transformation of British power that provided the opportunity for him to serve.

01:39:43.400 Corbett's teaching would be dominated by the deflection of strategy by politics,

01:39:48.640 and his politics were liberal imperialist, powerfully predisposed to see power as culture and identity,

01:39:56.980 an amalgam of democracy, progress, free trade, self-determination, and the rule of law, including at sea.

01:40:05.220 So that's where he was coming from, we might say ideologically.

01:40:09.800 I love that liberal imperialism.

01:40:12.480 we see that right now right like yeah that's effectively what maga is i see you know i mean

01:40:19.160 they call themselves republican but if you like they're not illiberal you say and they are

01:40:26.860 certainly appear like you see half these guys especially the ones more aligned with our side

01:40:31.640 saying like no we should colonize the world yeah we should just let's do what we were doing before

01:40:36.280 You know, let's behave like an empire is what they're saying.

01:40:46.140 Corbett created a systematic explanation of the way Britain had waged war as a guide to thinking about the future.

01:40:53.700 The maritime strategy he recommended was national, not naval, tailored to the needs and resources of the Edwardian Empire.

01:41:01.580 It emphasized the combination action of both services, integrated other resources within a national policy, settled by the cabinet.

01:41:09.560 His public output was targeted at statesmen as well as warriors.

01:41:15.740 He would replace the fixed naval models by developing Klauswitz's sophisticated, fluid arguments.

01:41:22.240 By 1900, at the latest, Corbett recognized the outline of a unique British way that integrated army and navy under civilian direction

01:41:30.220 to secure maritime and economic advantage and prevent the creation of a single continental

01:41:36.660 hegemon he recognized that national strategies were unique and contingent so it's not unlike

01:41:43.940 what you saw in america it was we are going to use ideally a more kinetic form of warfare 0.99

01:41:52.500 strike fast use economic leverage and we want to prevent regional hegemons we're going to strike 0.99

01:41:59.300 from a distance and influence with the best long range travel that we have right and we're not 1.00

01:42:08.600 constrained to marching armies and we're trying to go in a direction that no one else was going

01:42:14.920 in at the time so it says your class which is on war reflected the distinctive geography resources

01:42:22.460 and interests of an essentially landlocked central european state germany whose great

01:42:28.400 power status dependent on an army, rapid, decisive Prussian victories encouraged many soldiers to

01:42:34.760 treat German methods as universally applicable, generating international interest in Clausewitz.

01:42:44.180 German operational and strategic practice emphasized a short-range, high-tempo approach

01:42:49.760 to war focused on battle, which reflected Prussia-Germany's position in Central Europe.

01:42:55.280 limited human resources and the reality that a prolonged war would favor a larger more populous

01:43:01.860 power late 19th century proponents of a distinctive german way of war distorted

01:43:07.760 close with into an exponent of absolute war a nation in arms mobilized and wielded by a military

01:43:14.120 elite so it like it's just to clarify i'm not saying anything close with said was wrong but

01:43:22.800 it's a different sort of war and it's not irrelevant you know it's a type of war that speaks

01:43:30.320 to more landlocked continental powers but you know with for the force projection of technology

01:43:37.280 i think that changed but you know despite all that like it still didn't change the fundamentals

01:43:43.680 of war between ukraine and russia not really it just layered more technology over top of it

01:43:50.400 you know really everything you need to know about war go back to the peloponnesian war right that's

01:43:56.260 what they say you know we've been writing about war for about as long as we've been writing about

01:44:01.340 sex i think we can agree we know everything we just know about sex anything we anything we learn

01:44:07.940 from now is just blood in the gravy like it's just gonna it's gonna ruin it we have to stop

01:44:16.860 learning in fact if maybe we stop learning about war war would be a bit more acceptable forget some

01:44:22.500 things and you might have more fun i hate the war we have right now i hate anything that's mind

01:44:27.240 bending like we're so far past debating about civilian casualties we accept that there's no

01:44:37.600 such thing as a civilian we're all either artillery or we're targets everyone children too like we're

01:44:46.520 all on the table. We're all just nodes in a conflict. This is Corbett adopted

01:44:53.860 Malzahn's argument that blockade was an alternative to the military occupation

01:44:58.940 of territory, forcing an enemy to make peace through the injury done by his

01:45:04.620 commerce, his industries, and his financial position. Malzahn replaced

01:45:09.400 Klauswitz's occupation of a nation's territory with the occupation of sea

01:45:13.180 communications on which its life depends he did so because naval warfare was an imperfect form of war

01:45:20.300 one whose victory in battle led only to the enemy's frontier not the occupation of his

01:45:26.140 territory and the imposition of peace relay relying on such indirect methods as blockade and coastal

01:45:32.940 raids um he thought klaus witz's failure to discuss naval aspects of the revolutionary and

01:45:40.300 And Napoleonic Wars, understandable as a continental soldier, only saw its effect on land.

01:45:48.980 Corbett ensured students recognized that securing lines of passage and communication dominated maritime strategy.

01:45:56.940 Trade routes were critical to national strategy because they provided the resources to wage war.

01:46:01.500 He dismissed the analogy between command of the sea and the occupation of territory as not safe.

01:46:07.820 command of the sea meant the control of communications in which the belligerents

01:46:12.260 were adversely concerned and so you know i'd like to take this model he's got here

01:46:17.560 control of the sea is control of trade and control of communications because that's what

01:46:23.820 he's trying to achieve they can just accomplish that in the late 19th century early 20th century

01:46:30.660 by naval dominance now we inhabit a different status quo but if the ultimate goal is controlling

01:46:37.080 communications what other methods do we have to control communications what other methods do we

01:46:42.760 have to control trade now it might still come down to naval blockades like we're seeing in iran

01:46:50.840 like we're seeing with america trying to deal with the strait of hormuz right that's being controlled

01:46:57.320 by iran there's still a bottleneck there but i think the the pathways to controlling communication

01:47:05.800 and information and trade that's the real goal i think there's more choke points there than there

01:47:11.960 ever has been before just due to the fact that international trade has become so interlocked

01:47:18.280 right like even everything like computer production that has complicated international

01:47:23.800 trade you know we talked about the front stage and backstage about how there's an interest

01:47:28.840 in international diplomacy to actually constrain war because no one wants total war no one wants

01:47:34.440 nuclear war because you can't disentangle like you're guaranteeing your supply chain will break

01:47:38.520 at this point there's no way out i mean we're we're the only reason we're seeing that now is

01:47:43.880 because it's occurring in countries that are not geopolitically important like israel like israel

01:47:53.000 being engaged in one of the ugliest wars and genocides in recent yeah would improve it would

01:47:59.400 improve global supply chains if israel was destroyed yeah but like them if israel was 0.98

01:48:04.440 was just locked out of the world it wouldn't matter they don't affect anything except the 0.98

01:48:09.240 export of i don't know pine nuts no actually because of the way that they control and troll 0.93

01:48:15.480 patents and all kinds of other things i actually think goods would become cheaper if israel was 0.73

01:48:20.760 destroyed like the global trade would improve everywhere if israel was destroyed absolutely

01:48:26.760 But if a real country was engaged in national supply lines, that's something that most of these nations don't want to tangle with. 0.93

01:48:37.380 So it's a different state of play right now.

01:48:41.220 But I think trade has more pain points.

01:48:45.180 There's more just pain points that you'd expect more terror.

01:48:49.780 Does it seem like terrorists just went away?

01:48:53.080 Am I wrong?

01:48:53.620 Isn't that funny?

01:48:54.520 Isn't that interesting?

01:48:55.380 Yeah.

01:48:55.740 it does seem like they're on vacation right for the past few years for the past like when's the

01:49:01.000 last time i heard about a terror like there's terrorists in like doing mass shootings in the 0.99

01:49:07.160 uk like shit but i'm just though they always are there whenever they're needed politically 0.99

01:49:11.300 they're they're around they're always available i remember we were talking about somali pirates 0.99

01:49:16.500 for a minute remember that yeah yeah that seemed to be a big problem that just went away 0.79

01:49:21.620 just all these things that you would think that due to the the non-anti-fragile

01:49:29.520 qualities of a lot of these interlocking systems that they would be ripe targets for terrorists

01:49:37.400 but they're not and i don't even know what i'm trying to say i just it just seems like

01:49:42.460 i haven't heard about an actual an actual terrorist in a long time and it's not for lack of

01:49:50.160 you know

01:49:50.820 not for lack of their ability

01:49:53.860 it seems

01:49:54.500 I bet anyone could get

01:50:00.000 a nuke if they wanted to

01:50:01.140 maybe terrorists got real depressed

01:50:04.020 do you think that?

01:50:06.260 after COVID they never recovered

01:50:07.960 they're all still sitting at home 1.00

01:50:09.660 I bet a lot of them didn't recover when Osama Bin Laden 1.00

01:50:12.360 was killed 0.87

01:50:13.040 imagine being a terrorist 0.96

01:50:15.700 and your main man Osama goes down 0.92

01:50:18.160 or you find out that he was actually 0.97

01:50:20.000 an american asset the whole time and he's been living in florida fuck that's that's rough 0.97

01:50:24.500 betrayal it's like with american blacks when george floyd died they can't eat bananas anymore 0.99

01:50:30.800 like every black guy got depressed that that was wokeness it was black people being sad 0.99

01:50:42.380 and the only thing to cheer up blacks 1.00

01:50:44.640 is raping, of course. 1.00

01:50:49.380 Ever since George died, 0.98

01:50:50.740 I got all this counterfeit money around,

01:50:52.380 but I don't even feel like using it.

01:50:53.800 What's the point? 1.00

01:50:55.500 Nigga, I don't even want 1.00

01:50:56.680 to counterfeit money no more. 0.99

01:51:01.420 Nigga, I don't give a fuck about gang gang. 1.00

01:51:05.460 My children are sleeping. 0.99

01:51:07.080 It's hard to say gang gang

01:51:08.440 without yelling it.

01:51:09.560 um anyway so i don't this is an interesting interesting book um it follows the life of

01:51:18.420 jillian corbett um it gives some historical examples of britain engaged in various conflicts

01:51:26.020 uh i find that stuff's interesting i don't know if we necessarily need to go into it today

01:51:31.580 um i will say that you know the conclusion of corbett's life seemed to have been the the first

01:51:40.840 world war and the dawn of a new type of warfare which he felt you know i'll read here he says

01:51:48.480 corbin fisher believed their country had been shattered by a war that might have been prevented

01:51:53.800 or waged with more intelligence and intelligence informed by the past practice corbett had used to

01:51:59.480 shape current doctrine. It seemed their work had been in vain. It had not been possible to turn

01:52:04.520 the expertise and insight into policy and action. Britain, it seemed, had thrown away a million

01:52:09.760 lives, blasted many more, and wrecked the most successful economy in history, opening a veritable

01:52:15.880 Pandora's box of misery stretching from the influenza pandemic to chaos and genocide. Yet

01:52:22.020 attempts to rationalize the disaster persist. Desperate attempts to equate cost with consequence.

01:52:29.480 um so yeah he says death denied corbett the chance to render the first world war as a strategic

01:52:36.680 morality tale unfolding the tragedy of poor decisions and missed opportunities fortunately

01:52:43.140 the main lines of his argument are clear and can be fleshed out a deeper engagement with his

01:52:47.920 wartime work demonstrates how the synthesis of history strategy and national policy that informed

01:52:53.780 his work before 1914 informed critical arguments that won the peace these arguments secured the

01:53:00.100 sea power state against the malice of an american president bent on disarming sea power through the

01:53:06.900 legal notion of freedom of the seas while ensuring a league of nations would serve british interests

01:53:12.740 by preserving the post-war status quo anyway just to put a bow on it i really think this type of

01:53:21.700 warfare what has been taken to an unnatural conclusion like forcing us to ask what is war

01:53:28.420 what are we trying to accomplish with war and on our side of the fence we talk about war

01:53:34.260 in vitalistic ways talk about war heroism of war the the nietzschean drive towards violence men

01:53:43.700 enjoy war and it it is just policy is just politics by other means it's natural i understand all that

01:53:52.340 but it seems that we're asking deeper questions about what are we trying to accomplish with war

01:53:59.780 and i think get looking at it three-dimensionally asking what can we do not just to decimate the

01:54:07.220 opponent do we even want to decimate the opponent do we want to destroy their infrastructure do we

01:54:12.580 want to destroy the human resources they started viewing them as human resources not even just

01:54:17.380 slaves that's what america was doing with fourth generation warfare i hope i have that number

01:54:22.020 correct but it's like do we just want to kill all these people or do you want to win them over to 0.77

01:54:27.540 our side what does that look like did they win you know maybe not in those instances but some people

01:54:33.300 would say that american cultural imperialism did the rest depending on how you want to define

01:54:39.460 liberalism okay i can see that but just thinking more laterally about like what is is war just a

01:54:47.620 way to achieve forceful and immediate control if that's the case what else can we use in the interest

01:54:56.100 of control do we need to kill when we can weaken do we need to humiliate when we just need to

01:55:04.820 force acquiescence things like that and uh maybe trump has disrupted that but maybe not to the

01:55:12.020 degree that people think anyway i just think that that way of thinking about what war is and

01:55:18.340 is this something robots can do is is this just economic pressure plus robots plus novel viruses

01:55:27.940 we create in a lab that do not kill do not incapacitate but just weaken the productive

01:55:36.180 output of a target nation by ten percent you could do if you could drop covid or

01:55:45.940 install covid whatever the new version of covid is what did covid do it made people a little extra

01:55:52.980 sick for a little longer that's all it was it was just it was just the flu but it was a more advanced

01:55:59.200 flu you could see how and it spread fast okay and it makes a lot of people pretty sick and if you

01:56:07.860 could control that and make a target country real sick for a bit longer and you can guarantee when

01:56:14.120 it happens and people stop showing up for work and that that has reverberations all throughout

01:56:19.720 the society that's a form of warfare you just made that country 15 percent less effective

01:56:27.160 and what can you what can you do with that that's how they're thinking they're thinking about how

01:56:31.560 can we non-lethally control you and that's not just conspiracy thinking that's them trying to

01:56:38.200 solve war this was this was one of the earliest instances of them trying to solve for war

01:56:44.120 how can we use economic pressure through superior armaments it's very interesting

01:56:50.300 and i think that's remained more relevant anyway what did you think about all that

01:56:56.120 yeah it's good it's a good one all right sounds good i know you gotta get going so i'll talk to

01:57:01.500 you later no it's good man thank you take care

01:57:03.780 all right welcome back ladies and gentlemen to episode 24 of the 2025 last picture shows

01:57:26.920 film festival i am joined once again by a man to whom you all owe your allegiance

01:57:33.000 dimes how you doing man what's up baby it's good to have you back oh i look forward to this man

01:57:40.600 i might build my year around this i i do take it seriously i spend quite a bit of time ruminating

01:57:47.660 over the types of movies that we should discuss i believe we're in our third year right yeah

01:57:52.500 yeah yeah so i mean the first one was legendary i loved covering inland empire 0.96

01:57:58.660 on my fucking deathbed 0.95

01:58:01.360 I'm going to be talking 0.99

01:58:02.000 the people should check that out

01:58:03.740 and then I think this

01:58:05.760 movie that we're going to cover today

01:58:08.040 is like the last one we did

01:58:10.300 which is Stalker

01:58:11.200 which it's not pulled from my

01:58:13.840 personal favorites

01:58:15.860 or something that's really

01:58:17.020 I had this idea that I was going to pick 0.85

01:58:18.760 really fuck up alienating movies 0.98

01:58:20.620 that are going to upset you 0.98

01:58:22.700 personally

01:58:23.380 like Goodland Empire did

01:58:25.260 but then we ended up picking these movies that

01:58:28.660 no one talked about yet but they deserve to be talked about they're screaming out to be discussed

01:58:34.900 more in this political milieu we're in and uh i realize we haven't even teed up what we're

01:58:42.040 going to be talking about so maybe you could do that but uh yeah no no problem dimes has selected

01:58:47.540 for his episode the 1976 comedy drama network yeah i think i know why you picked it yeah i'd

01:59:01.200 also say it's a satire in the truest sense of the word not in the sense that you know it's a

01:59:07.560 serious movie that people misunderstand it has the tone and tenor and rhythm of a satire for

01:59:14.500 better or worse because there are some issues i would have the movie but it would be more in league

01:59:20.520 with uh the death of stalin which is a more recent one but you know it is funny it is everything is

01:59:27.120 heightened i find in these films there's not a lot of room for character development but you don't

01:59:34.740 need that right but it's like people represent things and you're watching representations of

01:59:41.880 concepts or spaces kind of manifest but i think this is um you know what i i interrupt you because

01:59:49.480 you're about to say i think you know why i picked this i do yeah and i mean obviously we're going

01:59:54.680 to draw some parallels here to our our current moment but i think you dimes like i think you

02:00:01.780 like this movie because i think that you channel howard beale every time you record a blood

02:00:06.060 satellite well he's your spirit animal as we'll get to in a little bit and maybe we can start

02:00:13.180 with this i find that highly offensive um let me just uh cue this up a little bit because

02:00:22.620 i saw this film and this was made in the 70s and this is what was it sydney lume yes sydney

02:00:30.260 yeah that's correct uh the director not the writer however and so if you are into screenwriting at all

02:00:38.080 or if you're just into filmmaking the screenplay for network is described as one of the best if

02:00:44.740 not the best screenplay ever written this is what you'll hear and i believe it won the academy award

02:00:50.280 that year for best screenplay um it's very very popular people love this film and i saw it when i

02:00:57.520 was younger i saw when i would have been in my early 20s and it had a different effect on me

02:01:02.160 then than it does now so this is the second time i've seen it um and i'm curious to hear did you

02:01:07.120 see it more than once or is this your first oh yeah no i've seen it i probably saw i've seen it

02:01:11.120 a number of times probably in my 20s and then again in my 30s you don't need to have a media

02:01:17.840 literacy certificate to watch this movie but it does help it's it's enjoyable and i think it's

02:01:23.840 best appreciated in the areas released in because you can watch it with the modern eyes and appreciate

02:01:30.560 it for what it is it's a very well-made movie but try to imagine what it was like in the 70s

02:01:34.880 when this dropped and it's people have said it predicted a lot of the media landscape right now

02:01:41.760 because the main uh network in there is things called ubs or ubn ubs and uh it doesn't exist

02:01:48.880 that's not a real network but it could be interpreted as a stand-in for fox you know

02:01:55.120 you wouldn't need to do that if you made the movie now you could just make things that are

02:01:57.840 called the name of whatever the it is but um yeah i i think if you watch it in the context

02:02:05.280 of when it was released it will it's a landmark film i don't think it's a perfect film i don't

02:02:11.920 think it's a perfect screenplay i think there's a lot of people who especially if they're younger

02:02:18.240 now they watch this and it can be seen as a revelation to them but uh i watch it very

02:02:24.100 differently with older eyes now and we can get to that in a second but i before i just go off on

02:02:30.820 this i wanted to get your view what what's your big take what's your reaction to this film yeah

02:02:37.720 yeah well a couple of things you know it's it's interesting i have this um i have i find it

02:02:45.400 difficult to watch movies and this goes in two two different directions i find it difficult to

02:02:52.080 watch movies where people the the characters are talking but it's not in a way that i think that

02:03:00.460 people actually speak so like one example like sometimes an example of this is that it's just 0.88

02:03:06.360 a really dumb screenplay written by a really dumb person so like an example of this is like an

02:03:12.540 earlier like red red hawk this year picked grand torino and he and i both tore it apart but it's 0.99

02:03:18.360 because like the writer does not know what like a 70 year old angry right-wing boomer sounds like

02:03:27.160 and so the dialogue is is tinny and bad and every scene i'm just like oh that's not how people talk 0.63

02:03:33.420 or that's not how men relate to one another yeah what do you jigger's up to but the the so that's

02:03:41.160 when it goes when the the the uncanny dialogue goes in a downward direction in network the

02:03:48.520 uncanny dialogue goes in this upward direction where like these guys are and i'm not just talking

02:03:53.540 about howard beale like howard beale's has these monologues which seem sort of like too too scripted

02:03:59.280 to be spontaneous but the way that everybody talks everybody talks in these like soliloquies

02:04:05.720 like when you have the like the romantic fight scenes between uh if they done away and william

02:04:12.500 holden it's just like the most crisp like perfect dialogue on the planet yeah that's where it almost

02:04:19.680 gets meta and that's what took me out of it like there's scenes of great sincerity almost ripped

02:04:25.980 from a different film we'll get to those in a second but then i know exactly what you're talking

02:04:29.080 about like their romantic uh you know tension everything like it's almost nobody ever stumbles

02:04:35.640 over what they're trying to say they just come out with the most perfect sentences imaginable

02:04:41.380 and it's weird because like it's hypocritical it's strange that i mind this in movies because

02:04:47.720 like i don't mind it when i watch a shakespeare play or like i i don't mind it when i read a

02:04:53.120 greek tragedy and obviously those are things that like i accept it if it's on stage and it's

02:04:59.540 tennessee williams but something about like the medium of film unless there's a very obvious sort

02:05:05.660 of um like if there's there's some obvious thematic element to a movie where where the

02:05:14.120 characters are not supposed to be talking the way real human beings yeah and and the sleight of hand

02:05:20.440 that this film does and again of in this era this was probably seen as very novel but it gets very

02:05:26.780 meta this is people who work in television specifically aware that they work in television

02:05:33.460 and they're commenting on their situations as if they were television that becomes a plot point

02:05:39.240 later where uh max schumacher played by william holden is speaking to diana played by faye dunway

02:05:46.340 seeing he's older she's younger he says she basically represents tv she's not real and

02:05:52.840 we'll get into his character because i don't love his character that much in this but

02:05:56.760 because she's an unreal person she speaks in an unreal way but so do all the tv people in this

02:06:02.960 and you're locked into this world they're speaking in like tv jargon and we're all used to it now

02:06:09.720 but back then it was about ratings there's a q scores there's what all this other stuff and

02:06:14.060 bantering back and forth about that but so the movie is almost telling you that you're watching

02:06:22.320 this sort of like meta analysis of media by fake media people who are aware that they're being

02:06:29.020 meta about you know i mean so you know that that like i get it i get like there's like as i'm

02:06:34.940 watching this film i'm like okay i get it none of this is lost on me it's not unskilled and maybe

02:06:40.720 i'm just not wowed by it just like i'm watching this and i don't love what i'm seeing but is it

02:06:46.420 bad no like would i remove any scenes i don't i don't as i'm watching it i'm watching it with a 0.90

02:06:54.480 fucking you know scalpel in my hand saying what would i remove from this movie to make it better 0.96

02:06:59.260 i'm not sure i would remove anything every scene's pretty essential to what's going on if anything 0.98

02:07:06.320 it could use a bit more it could use a bit more especially in the back third of it or maybe they

02:07:12.440 spend a bit too much time between because i was thinking like maybe we could remove the relationship

02:07:17.720 between the character max and diana but i'm like well he can't because that represents it's it's

02:07:23.620 an a it's a commentary on age and within the medium and so i don't know if i could remove

02:07:28.700 anything but it's just there's when i watch these satirical movies it may i want to see what you

02:07:34.920 think about this but when i watch this like even death of stalin or any of these sort of black

02:07:38.700 comedies they never know how to end i don't i don't think i like the ending to this it's too

02:07:45.800 it's very abrupt yeah it's very abrupt it's abrupt and it feels like it's missing something

02:07:52.780 it wasn't something that wasn't tied up like it fits together well it's orchestrated well

02:07:58.540 everything it's set up earlier and then it pays off at the end it's very well timed but i'm just

02:08:04.380 there's like a emptiness after you watch this movie maybe i'm i'm demanding too much right i'm

02:08:10.700 looking at this saying this is the academy award winning scripts well this doesn't feel like a

02:08:16.780 legendary script but like maybe my expectations i don't know it's just that there's a certain

02:08:21.580 hollowness to it that even in terms of the plot it just needed a bit a bit of something like

02:08:28.400 max schumacher's character maybe we should even just explain what the movie's even about before

02:08:32.580 i get too deep into it yeah we can do that um i mean it's basically about a tv news anchor going

02:08:40.140 insane that would be howard beale the man who who threatens to kill himself on live television he's

02:08:47.380 like a old news anchor he's basically been let go towards the end of his career because his ratings

02:08:53.700 are beginning to decline also keep in mind his wife passed away not long before this and he is

02:09:00.200 developing a drinking problem that's correct yeah that's all part of it because it's i think it's

02:09:07.000 important to say and i didn't catch this when i watched it when i was younger the first time so

02:09:12.240 this is an aging newsman and his ratings were already declining this was a guy being put out

02:09:18.220 to pasture just because he was generally uninteresting i think they expressed that very

02:09:24.760 early on and then he's let go and he's drunk and part of it was inspired by the case of

02:09:32.760 christine chubbock so this was a woman from the uh in this this happened in the 70s

02:09:39.800 um i think it would have happened when was this movie released like okay two years before the

02:09:45.480 movie came out this was the woman who blew her brains out on tv that never happened before she 1.00

02:09:51.560 she was just a news anchor her life sucked fem cell and she kills herself and so that that was 0.74

02:09:59.300 like a big moment in american tv and um so that that's kind of what he starts with he goes on tv 0.79

02:10:06.740 and he says well um this is gonna i'm gonna be gone in a week uh tune in a week from now i'm

02:10:12.980 gonna blow my brains out everyone's freaking out his best friend and so just so people know

02:10:18.180 we're following howard beale he's kind of set up as the main character but he's not really his

02:10:22.480 the main character i would say is a guy named max schumacher who's similar these are old men

02:10:28.020 these are veterans of the television industry in the 70s and uh he's his i guess the station

02:10:35.900 director i don't know what his job would be he's he's like his boss basically or direct report

02:10:40.500 and then but they're friends they've come up together and then so howard beale's about to get

02:10:47.280 fired but then the big wigs at the network robert duvall plays one of them um there's a few other

02:10:55.940 people in there but they said oh hey the ratings are pretty good you know that's interesting then

02:11:01.800 you know beale says okay let me back let me give a real farewell speech so he said they they his

02:11:08.880 friend helps him out max helps one he says okay go on do it right and then he takes back the 0.99

02:11:14.760 suicide base says you know what i'm just i'm sick of the bullshit my whole life has been bullshit 0.99

02:11:19.660 i just can't bullshit anymore and he gets into this sort of straight talking confessional space 0.99

02:11:26.520 and then people respond very well to that the ratings start to go up that's interesting 0.63

02:11:31.600 and so i i cut you off and just jump right into did you want to build on that

02:11:36.580 no no you're doing you're doing fine but yeah it's basically the the i mean the the

02:11:42.860 ultra quick synopsis of the film is like the network capitalizing off of a man's

02:11:50.440 mental breakdown right and discovering that yeah it's more that that's more captivating than

02:11:57.420 the you know walter cronkite objective news source that we've all yeah apologized at this

02:12:04.700 point so yeah the real heart of the story there's a couple things that happen so howard beale as

02:12:10.520 this raving truth teller um he becomes attractive because there's this woman young woman a young

02:12:19.080 program director named diana christensen who works at the station she's got all kinds of

02:12:24.200 radical new ideas on how this network ubs it's like number five in the rankings and they're just 1.00

02:12:32.620 this like known this bullshit network no one gives a shit about she wants to be number one 0.98

02:12:37.060 she wants to go counterculture she wants to go radical she wants to one of the recurring themes 0.99

02:12:44.020 in this is the um ecumenical liberation front which are based on the symbionese liberation

02:12:50.220 army which is a real black radical group in that era so they just found the idiom directly compares

02:12:56.900 like do you mean the symbionese i mean nope we mean this other one but they're just by the way

02:13:02.020 the stuff with the black revolutionary militia is the only times that i laughed that i actually

02:13:08.220 laughed out loud or chuckled during this movie yeah i know this is a comedy but it's it's a very

02:13:12.680 bleak movie yeah that's a good b plot in the film that i quite like but she's like i want to get

02:13:18.780 them we're going to call it the mao zedong hour and we're going to follow them as they rob banks

02:13:23.600 they send us footage of them robbing banks kidnapping heiresses which is what they did in

02:13:28.180 real life and we'll air it and just groundbreaking stuff and she's the one who advocates for Howard

02:13:34.080 Beal said put this guy on the air have him tell the truth the entire time Robert Duvall's character

02:13:39.780 he wants to get rid of everything but he's he's got a game plan in the background as well because

02:13:44.920 he wants to be the boss his boss ends up dying now he's in charge now he can clear house

02:13:49.840 in the background of that we get to later there's a big sale of the network that's going to happen

02:13:55.900 to saudi arabia but we're getting ahead of ourselves so diana chris there's something

02:14:00.960 of like a thriller going on in the background like almost a conspiracy thriller which is 0.89

02:14:05.900 legitimate and interesting but anyway so max being like i don't know fucking 95 years old 0.81

02:14:13.920 starts up an affair with diana christensen and and there you get this plot line where it's like 0.84

02:14:19.260 he's the old guard she's new he's infatuated with her she represents something new and fresh 0.91

02:14:25.100 and exciting he's been married for fucking 900 years but in this really great scene like this 0.80

02:14:32.360 is what we're talking about before so he leaves his wife for her and their scenes are very kind 0.86

02:14:38.380 of phony very meta but there's this one great scene like i said it was almost plucked from a

02:14:44.200 different movie and dropped into this where he's telling his wife that he's been having an affair

02:14:49.020 and he's leaving what should i do should i move out and she's like very understanding is that do

02:14:55.780 you love her you know this isn't just a secretary she's you know this isn't just you know a one

02:15:01.920 night stand this and she's got it's it's very emotional very evocative and she's got this one

02:15:08.680 line where she says you know this this is just like if this is a winter romance you know i'm

02:15:13.880 your wife why can't i have a winter romance and if you can't give me a winter romance why don't i

02:15:20.460 deserve respect and it's like it's really good and then you you switch over to like this fake 0.99

02:15:26.720 bullshit but just to say this before i before i lose it i just felt like max schumacher's character 0.85

02:15:32.560 never received any sort of comeuppance you know i mean like he kind of like he left it he didn't 0.98

02:15:38.160 i don't know like he needed something else like he blows up his marriage you know seemingly very

02:15:43.640 suddenly to you know be infatuated with this woman that represents like new modernity represents the

02:15:51.960 revolution that's taking place in the streets and in the process he kind of learns that he's a hack

02:15:58.320 because here's the let me just i'm all over the place right now but one thing i noticed in this 0.84

02:16:03.140 film that i found somewhat frustrating was it was it's a movie calling tv bullshit saying that tv's

02:16:12.600 ruining america tv ruins everything but it you know obviously directed by cindy lume but 0.93

02:16:18.580 to that i would say well movies aren't much better you know i mean it it's it's a very arrogant type

02:16:26.080 film and this is what movies had thought for the longest time like we're real art you're just 0.76

02:16:30.440 fucking tv but they both accomplished a lot of the same thing propagandistically culturally 0.63

02:16:36.520 whatever you want to call it so it was always looking down on tv and then you also have the 0.99

02:16:41.960 character max schumacher you know the old fucking dinosaur talking about diana christianship that he 0.92

02:16:47.380 says at one point like you are tv you're a generation raised on tv you are tv and i say 0.99

02:16:51.700 you're tv too everyone in this fucking movie is tv like you you're part of the same fucking machine 0.98

02:16:58.480 i don't like this pretentiousness that he gets and i don't think that pretentiousness 0.99

02:17:04.480 is reconciled i don't think that pretentiousness really gets its comeuppance later like he's always

02:17:10.380 he's he remains above everything and outside of everything right at the end but i'm like

02:17:15.820 you're just a hack like you are just like you realize you're a hack but there must be something

02:17:20.700 more that happens to your character because everyone else kind of suffers in this thing 0.61

02:17:25.660 except him he gets to have a wry smile and his little romance like oh yeah i'll be fine i'll go 1.00

02:17:31.500 back to my wife like just fuck you you tv hack you know yeah but you're no you're no better than her 1.00

02:17:38.380 not really she's just got the volume turned up you you produce like shitty 1.00

02:17:43.500 new like you're not obsessed with ratings you're above rings shut the 0.98

02:17:48.060 up i'm talking to him like he's a real person

02:17:52.860 no the movie wanted me to believe that he was like something else and that's

02:17:56.300 where i was like i'm not i don't think so anyway yeah it's strange i think the

02:18:01.500 movie kind of goes i don't know it vacillates between creating this sort of

02:18:07.660 passing of the generations and i don't know venerating that the old guard as this kind of

02:18:16.700 lost camelot or this golden era of respectability but at the same time showing what kind of flawed

02:18:25.900 creatures these are it is funny you mentioned grand torino as this sort of boomer fantasy but

02:18:31.740 this in another way is a boomer fantasy because you got the older generation saying i don't

02:18:36.460 understand you you're raised on tv you're something else i'm like yeah raised on the tv you created 0.99

02:18:43.300 motherfucker you see what i'm saying like that's such a boomer sort of thing to think like what 0.99

02:18:47.920 happens like the tv made it yeah but you make tv you you made her yeah yeah she she she says that 1.00

02:18:54.600 she was obsessed with you in college you were her hero she read all your shit she listened to all 0.98

02:18:59.780 your speeches you fucking made her and i just like all boomer moralism tales i i think they've 1.00

02:19:06.160 removed his responsibility from it it's like i'm a boomer i i created this now i get to fuck it 0.99

02:19:12.000 and now i'm done fucking it so i want to go home because i'm scared i want to you know what i mean 0.99

02:19:17.840 fuck max schumacher anyway but i'm saying this because that's most of the movie 0.98

02:19:24.040 right a lot of people it's like eyes wide shut when people think of eyes wide shut they think of 0.99

02:19:29.780 the uh you know the scene at the mansion the orgy scene like everyone thinks of this way they think

02:19:35.140 of howard beale's rants but like most of the movie is like those two that relationship howard

02:19:42.040 beale like isn't even in it that much it's true yeah yeah and it's it's hard to know what to make

02:19:49.420 of it because as you said they are they're both having to operate as these like generational

02:19:55.280 symbols and the i mean the script is actually quite heavy-handed when it's saying you are

02:20:00.180 television diana um yeah and that's like it's satire so like i guess it needs to have that but

02:20:07.780 i would have appreciated a bit more subtlety there's like a lecture there's a few lectures

02:20:14.100 that go on at the end one is very good it's the one everyone's thinking of uh you know the the

02:20:20.500 big one in the boardroom that one's yeah we gotta talk about that yeah and maybe maybe we'll get to

02:20:25.460 that next just so we don't run out of time but there's other sort of lectures later on where i'm

02:20:30.440 like okay this you were complaining about this at the start like this kind of takes me out of it i

02:20:34.660 feel like we're spinning our wheels right now this could have been a show don't tell a moment

02:20:38.920 well i guess that i mean the the the movie kind of goes in two directions because like on the one

02:20:47.580 hand it's being very cynical about kind of the audience and going down the ladder to the consumer

02:20:56.020 right to the recipient of the television and exposing us all as just these sort of you know

02:21:02.340 dopamine addled beasts who uh you know will or like you know we're just like barking seals and

02:21:10.080 we'll we'll take whatever we can get we just want the most um you know exciting television

02:21:18.420 but as that's happening you sort of um also are creeping your way up the ladder and it offers

02:21:25.820 this critique of power um and you know the the idea and that's where i think max the character

02:21:35.160 of max is problematic because he's he's the closest thing that the film has to like a walter

02:21:41.140 cronkite right or like some sort of you know ultra dignified old newsman but um as we go as

02:21:50.160 like you know howard beale kind of as we move up the chain of command and we see the inner workings

02:21:55.720 of the network and how they're about to see it to sell you find out they're about to sell to some

02:22:00.180 sort of like arab conglomerate and you know there's no credibility to the audience and there's

02:22:07.700 no real credibility to the up the hierarchy or down the hierarchy i guess that's what i'm trying

02:22:13.320 to say yeah and um just building on that when i first saw this film that was completely lost on

02:22:21.300 me because there's a few rants in this film that people have probably seen clips of if they looked

02:22:26.400 it up the big one is you know i'm mad as hell i'm not going to take it anymore so that would have

02:22:31.900 been the third speech that he gives in the film it kind of builds up to it he's soaking wet he's

02:22:38.200 coming in from the rain and at this point he's almost like he's possessed and the film is very

02:22:46.460 clear on this because you see a scene of howard beale laying in bed alone laying awake staring

02:22:54.160 at the ceiling and he's talking to voices in his head and you don't hear what the voices are saying

02:22:59.800 you just see him responding to it so the film is telling you like this guy's either out of his mind

02:23:05.420 or he's commuting with some sort of otherworldly entity that isn't god because he tells this story

02:23:12.740 in a future speech i think that that happens after this speech i'm talking about but

02:23:17.800 anyway he basically talks about the voice he was hearing in his head and he says that the voice

02:23:24.880 wasn't god so you're talking to a demon you're talking to another intervention and if if we're

02:23:31.880 going with you down that path but by this point like he he has lost his mind the film is clear 0.89

02:23:37.460 this guy's just fucking insane okay so let's start with that secondly let's look at the substance of

02:23:43.820 what howard beale actually said in these revolutionary populist speeches and to a young 0.92

02:23:51.700 person like when i watched this i just thought it was kind of cool and interesting and here's a

02:23:57.420 funny thing you can do at home go on letterbox go on reddit and watch the film but then look at what

02:24:05.080 people are saying about it because that whole speech he does like i'm mad as he gives this 0.94

02:24:11.180 fucking rant of platitudes just vagaries it actually means nothing right he goes on there 0.98

02:24:18.340 like the fish is too expensive there's war in the middle east the government is lying to you just 0.99

02:24:25.140 like billy joel's we didn't start the fire yeah and again this is the 70s this was not an era

02:24:31.140 where this was unheard of there was people criticizing society and the government since 0.56

02:24:35.720 the fucking beat generation right so it's not like society at large wasn't aware of this it 0.95

02:24:42.300 wasn't a massive pressure release or wouldn't have been within that world but he's just giving 0.98

02:24:47.420 these platoos and say i want you to go outside and say i'm mad as hell and i'm not gonna take

02:24:53.620 it anymore and then people do it they and then max is there and he looks out his window and there's

02:25:01.060 people out of the window and they're screaming it in the streets and it's this massive and within

02:25:06.680 this world in the 70s like when you're a top show you're getting like nine million people watching

02:25:12.460 it so there's people there's thousands and thousands of people doing this in the world of

02:25:16.540 this film but i remember max has this look on his face as he's watching these people just taken up

02:25:22.860 in the moment and electrified by it he's almost uh disappointed and ashamed and i looked at that 0.97

02:25:28.580 i read on his face like you understand this is bullshit you you don't know what these people are 0.95

02:25:33.140 doing they're swept up in something but there is no substance to it and really if you look at all 0.99

02:25:38.660 the speeches it's the same sort of fire and brimstone nothing it's fucking nothing but

02:25:44.420 people it's it's and very quickly becomes a commoditized revolution they're almost immediately

02:25:51.060 the network the corporation sees it tries to make money off and diana is a instrumental in that

02:25:58.580 because she sees and says let's make let's build a show around him just him instead of you know the

02:26:03.720 news little segment and there's going to be a soothsayer and there's going to be a like all 0.98

02:26:09.200 the kooky shit we're going to make a show of kooky future predictions and counterculture shit 0.95

02:26:14.800 and so like very cynically trying to like capture and market that energy and maybe put him above his 1.00

02:26:24.000 pay rate put him in a place where he shouldn't have that responsibility what the fuck is he doing 0.97

02:26:28.820 he's out of his mind and he's saying nothing he's he sounds like a homeless man if you really 0.98

02:26:34.560 listen to it um later on there's one last speech that gets him in trouble and we can talk about

02:26:40.560 that but i wanted to hear what your thoughts there or what i interpreted this movie doing with

02:26:48.240 more mature eyes it was like it was because i haven't seen every movie from the 70s or 60s

02:26:55.260 but this seemed like one of the original films that was like critiquing populist

02:27:00.860 not conspiracy culture but like populist revolutionary action like it portrays the 1.00

02:27:07.440 people as going along with it maybe the people are kind of stupid and howard beale is insane 0.96

02:27:13.540 and it works like so it's like a critique on that it's really the movie and if you look at the 0.99

02:27:20.100 ecumenical liberation army like it is a critique on populism and revel the revolutionary fervor

02:27:27.140 of that era and i think i don't think it gets credit enough for satirizing that like it wasn't

02:27:32.880 even necessarily it was satirizing tv in corporate america but more than anything it was satirizing

02:27:39.020 populist revolutionary action yeah i i think that beale beale is the most uncomfortable part

02:27:49.200 of the film for me because i just find it almost cruel the depiction that the film has of him and

02:27:55.620 the attitude that the film has towards him because i agree with you i think he is just objectively

02:28:01.760 like a sad old insane man this is a guy who's going to kill himself at the start right

02:28:08.880 Yeah. And it's it's you know, there's no he's not a holy fool. He's not shown to have much of any. He's not like Moses coming down from the mountain. He's not. He's not like a purveyor of truth, capital T truth in any real sense. 1.00

02:28:29.580 it really is just somebody who's lost their mind and we see that he's easily manipulated when he

02:28:36.120 has his run-in with um i can't remember the name of like the president or the ceo yeah like the

02:28:44.200 main guy the top guy and um maybe we should set up i don't know if you want if you want to get

02:28:50.480 into that right now or we can do that next but if you wanted to finish up that thought because

02:28:54.480 that almost deserves to be its own thing yeah yeah no i mean i think that's that's all i had

02:29:00.140 to say about him but it's just um it's just such a cruel everything that happens to him i mean but 0.56

02:29:06.380 that's also the point right like he is this pathetic creature and diana and everybody at

02:29:14.020 the network have no pity for him at all i mean the only person that does have pity is max um and 0.96

02:29:21.480 the only one who kind of points out like i think this man needs medical intervention when he calls

02:29:27.720 him out he says you are taking my friend you're making a mockery of him you're this guy he's he's

02:29:33.400 having a breakdown he uses that word and uh you don't get the sense that howard beale has any

02:29:41.400 desire for fame either like he's not doing it to be manipulative like he really believes 0.97

02:29:48.200 what he's doing and so in a sense he could be seen as something of a holy fool but maybe not holy

02:29:53.880 he's just uh some kind of something's happening that he's swept up in i would have liked it if

02:30:00.840 we followed him a bit more you know what i mean like i think we need to get in get inside his

02:30:06.280 experience a bit because he dies at the end you know spoiler alert um in in a very sort of um

02:30:13.800 darkly humorous but cynical way you know very very bitter it's got it's a bitter ending

02:30:22.140 um but let's discuss the what you were just talking about the meeting with arthur jensen

02:30:29.640 played by ned beady who's like portrays like the top guy the ceo the as high as you can get what

02:30:36.940 happens is one night i have a fight of him but maybe i don't there's like when people see it

02:30:45.260 there's like a famous scene in the boardroom it's amazingly well lit um but uh howard beale

02:30:53.180 go just one night goes on his show and instead of just the sort of apocalyptic vision he's saying

02:31:00.460 that this network ubs is being sold to this to a corporation to a holding company and that holding

02:31:08.860 company is being sold to the saudi arabians and he's just going out there almost like alex jones

02:31:15.660 but saying that look this is this is a this is a corporate sale and you're letting foreigners into

02:31:21.660 this country which you know you wouldn't even be able to have that narrative right now but 0.99

02:31:26.300 But in that film, it's like, do you want a bunch of fucking Saudis owning your network? 0.98

02:31:32.060 And he's going off on stuff that you would hear from any podcast in our scene. 0.98

02:31:35.620 He's like, the Chinese own a port in Chicago or like in Louisiana. 1.00

02:31:41.980 And the fucking Russians own this. 1.00

02:31:43.860 And we've sold our country out. 1.00

02:31:45.560 We've actually sold the property.

02:31:47.080 We've sold the institutions.

02:31:48.120 We've sold waterways to foreign interests. 1.00

02:31:51.840 Do you want the fucking Saudis to own this network? 0.99

02:31:55.160 and they're doing it by buying they they they're buying to a holding company that holding company 0.99

02:31:59.640 sends it to another holding company and that's how they buy it so you don't even know who is

02:32:04.760 transferring what money where this whole thing is a black box and so that was sort of a divorced

02:32:11.240 message from everything else he talked about before that's what gets him in trouble that's

02:32:16.440 what gets him called before the the big man the boss who's uh played by nabidi he's he's a very

02:32:23.960 unassuming plump guy mustache you know he's not a dark lord or anything it's played very

02:32:32.540 realistically but they invite him over there into this big regal boardroom and he sits down at one

02:32:40.080 end and arthur jensen sits at the other saying like i you know i started off as a salesman i

02:32:45.400 would sell electronics i would sell cars i would sell whatever i'd like to sell you on an idea

02:32:51.700 and then he sits and down there closes the curtains it engages in this very famous monologue

02:33:00.260 uh i don't know there's got me another word for it but it's delivered very very theatrically um

02:33:06.020 did you want to i'm doing a lot of time i think that that what the most important thing to note

02:33:10.420 about his uh his his monologue and it's shot like the lighting is very similar to what you

02:33:17.300 see here in this slide like they stage him so that you know everything is is pretty much dark

02:33:22.960 but they have lights leading up to him and not only is he delivering a very dramatic monologue

02:33:28.520 but it's in the style of beale's monologue so you know beale when when beale has been going on the

02:33:35.980 air he he's sort of acting like like an evan evangelical preacher like he's waving his arms

02:33:42.180 in the air he's like i have something to say and now the um the president is like is saying to him

02:33:49.960 in the same tone and the same style like you have messed with the forces of nature by the way to the

02:33:57.340 image like i don't know if you have the time to like swap this into your uh slideshow there by

02:34:02.380 sending an image of the scene in question yeah i'll try to find one

02:34:07.580 yeah so um yeah i'll just talk while you're looking at that link see if you can swap in

02:34:14.720 because it's good to have a visual aid for this but um other jensen basically sits him down and

02:34:20.920 gives him here's how the world works you think it's nation states you think it's people you

02:34:28.520 think it's voters i'm paraphrasing here you can look up anyone can what the actual speech is but

02:34:34.660 says you're naive you're childish there is no america there are no saudis there is only exxon

02:34:42.500 and at&t and the ford motor company base making an argument for that time especially that it's

02:34:49.140 just corporations and it's the system of corporations and it's the system of global

02:34:53.860 commerce that is what controls everything and that he's saying that he is when he says you

02:35:00.420 have meddled in the primal forces of nature he's saying you're up this deal and you can't up this

02:35:07.140 deal because the players in this deal aren't who you think they are this thing called america

02:35:12.420 doesn't matter it's a he says i love this line where he says it's a system of systems

02:35:20.740 and within that delivery he's saying that however you like you're quaint you're a fire

02:35:26.900 and brimstone preacher talking to people but this thing you're doing has been permitted because it

02:35:32.580 doesn't matter none of this matters but you you stumbled into something like when there's a movie

02:35:39.540 conspiracy theory with mel gibson great film but he's conspiracy theorist who just talks a bunch

02:35:45.940 of wild stuff but then he accidentally says something that's correct and then the government's 0.98

02:35:50.900 coming down on him the black helicopters are in the air right so he's like you fucked up but 0.99

02:35:57.700 i'm gonna bring you back down to earth this is the world this is the world you live in 0.99

02:36:02.900 grow the up come on our side and then he does and that's what i was saying at the start of the howard

02:36:10.180 biel he's not ideologically captured he is something of a dinosaur but really uh he folds

02:36:17.700 very very quickly so the argument is that he is not this laudable you know intelligent man he's

02:36:25.220 just like a sad a sad man being swept up by forces he can't even understand meeting the the grand

02:36:31.940 tyrant and saying yes i will immediately become your stooge yeah exactly and that's why i find

02:36:38.500 this film to be so relentlessly bleak there's there's only one other man i'd rather be talking

02:36:44.180 about this film with than than you dimes and that that man is nick land because this speech is 0.50

02:36:50.420 something right out of xeno systems like he's basically just saying like all there is is the

02:36:56.180 flux of capital there's no you know coldness be my god there's no nations there's no you know

02:37:04.300 individual human sovereignty there's only things that are um these tiny little nodes that help

02:37:12.360 capital escape uh like you know achieve escape velocity yeah i think this is a bleak message

02:37:20.980 if the film didn't have this scene it would be a much worse film i think this is an essential

02:37:27.000 scene one of a few essential scenes that really recontextualize everything that happens before

02:37:32.440 it and i think if you watch this movie a second time knowing that this happens you can re-watch

02:37:36.500 it a bit more carefully but the entire back half of this movie is really interesting for that reason

02:37:41.820 because it gets really strange like that but yeah you can just even read the script for this scene

02:37:48.460 and um like that the ideas that's dealing with it doesn't just say capitalism back i remember them

02:37:55.740 saying that they cast another actor for this role and lume was saying that we had to get rid of him

02:38:02.700 because he just didn't get it he was delivering it in the wrong way he would have been delivering it

02:38:07.900 in a very nefarious evil way you know like a dark wizard might but he's like no you need you need

02:38:15.100 to deliver this with a certain vibrance because when he's saying this he's not talking he's not

02:38:20.780 really talking down to him he's chastising him he's scolding him but he is trying to sell him

02:38:26.140 he's trying to sell them on this really good idea here's how the world works and guess what

02:38:31.820 this is the best world and he says that you know his future it sounds kind of communist in a way

02:38:37.900 but he says our future is just everyone will be employed by one giant holding company all

02:38:45.180 and what was the line he says like all all your necessities fulfilled all your boredom amused and

02:38:51.900 things like that yeah that's his dream his dream is is the end of scarcity you know and that's what

02:38:59.420 that's what he he believes in he communicates that he believes that he loves this system he

02:39:03.420 loves this complex system of systems that most of the world is blind to but he got to peek behind

02:39:10.300 the curtain and he says to howard beale he says i want you to be the evangelist of this i want you

02:39:15.580 to tell this to the world and this is what's so interesting this is what this is what really

02:39:21.020 brought the movie to the next level for me which was howard says yes he goes on his show and he

02:39:28.060 He just basically repackages this and says it to people as if he really believes it.

02:39:33.840 And there's this one line he has where he's like, yes, yes, we, because he wanted a letter writing campaign.

02:39:41.740 People have sent telegrams to the White House to stop that sale of this company.

02:39:46.220 He says, you did it.

02:39:47.140 They were walking waist deep in telegrams and we stopped the deal.

02:39:51.780 But, you know, it's, what did we really do?

02:39:54.780 Did we really affect anything?

02:39:56.520 you know we i talked about dehumanization but is dehumanization so bad and we're talking about

02:40:04.560 nick land that line more than anything but is dehumanization so bad like there's you can watch

02:40:11.640 this with 21st century eyes and pick some of these lines and and they would have sounded good at the

02:40:18.760 time but there's a lot of depth to them now and then what happens is his ratings start to go down

02:40:24.940 people don't want to hear it they can't it's too depressing it's too weird and up and

02:40:30.940 he starts to become less popular while delivering this while delivering the actual truth this is

02:40:37.180 the truth of it this is what people can't accept it and he suffers for it but yeah so and then

02:40:44.060 that's the movie telling you once again what these people were being delivered previously was not the

02:40:49.420 truth it was just this sort of sensationalist blather here here's the real here's the real

02:40:56.700 dirt on what's happened like i i can't take this bring me back to i'm mad as just screaming out

02:41:02.780 the window i'm mad as hell and i won't take it anymore but what does that accomplish what does

02:41:06.140 that mean telling people you're mad like shut the up that's nothing you know and then 0.62

02:41:12.620 they're going to keep howard biel doing that and this comes from arthur jensen he's like

02:41:16.940 like just keep delivering the message and you wonder if there's another plan at play there or

02:41:21.620 if they're actually trying to deliver the truth but you don't know because then the movie just

02:41:25.520 kind of ends but anyway what did you think of all that yeah i don't i mean the thing that sticks

02:41:31.580 with me most of all too is that speech that gets delivered to beal it's um i mean one it's i mean

02:41:38.440 if you if you assume that this guy is kind of he's sort of brilliant the the the ceo because

02:41:46.620 he's presenting that he's delivering this message in the exact perfect style that he needs to

02:41:53.060 deliver the message to beal in order to get this to sink in like he's he's more beal than beal

02:41:59.040 right which is the way that that probably the only way that he was going to listen

02:42:03.740 to somebody or get reprogrammed but um i guess that's also but that's what i'm talking about

02:42:10.140 when i say that like it's just the movie is so acidic and it annihilates because like

02:42:18.140 you know you would if if the boomer news anchor generation of max and howard has more kind of

02:42:26.360 dignity and credibility that would be because there's they're closer to god in some way they're

02:42:32.720 closer to the truth right the capital t truth um that god bestows on us but they're just but what's

02:42:40.640 the only thing that's standing behind them or standing above them so to speak in this kind of

02:42:45.280 hierarchy of um the truth is this man who's you know giving this completely and utterly nihilistic

02:42:54.820 speech about you know countries are not real you know national identities are not real

02:43:03.040 the only thing that is real is the flow of capital so there's not anybody in this movie that i mean

02:43:10.120 i guess maybe he is the one character that has credibility um only because he's the one that

02:43:17.340 uh can face up to that kind of total nihilism and annihilation um so yeah that's why i just i find

02:43:28.460 the movie so terribly dark if you look at the expression on howard beale's face he's in awe

02:43:35.140 of what he's hearing he's terrified but he is receiving the message and then you understand

02:43:41.360 that well this is a guy that's just been looking for a message it's the exact same eyes he had

02:43:46.680 when he's laying in bed communing with whatever entity he's convinced he was communing with so

02:43:52.220 it's like here's a man in search of a god and in neither case does he find one but he wants to be

02:43:58.620 a follower he wants to help the people he wants to be a good shepherd and so you've got this

02:44:03.200 you know at the core of it this good shepherd archetype that's just used and abused by this

02:44:09.780 system and at the very end he's he's sacrificed to get the uh ecumenical liberation army to just

02:44:18.380 shoot him live on the air um yeah and then he gets shot and then he dies and the final

02:44:25.180 line you get is and that's the story of howard beald the only man in the history of america who

02:44:30.800 was killed for low ratings because at this point his his ratings were kind of low and that's kind

02:44:36.280 of like a pithy funny little way to end it but right i don't know after all that stuff we just

02:44:41.880 talked about happens in the last like 25 minutes there's a lot it's a pretty long movie but it's

02:44:48.080 boom boom boom boom boom done and then i just that's kind of like the the roller coaster going

02:44:54.200 down it's very exciting and then you just boop there we go right right to the end and i'm just

02:44:59.600 i would have liked a little bit of something more i don't know you know you know what i mean like

02:45:04.820 did it feel like something was was missing because it gives you a lot it gives you

02:45:10.740 like we're saying that speech of the system of systems is dealing with very heady ideas that

02:45:15.460 you're not expecting from a film like this like that whole back half it hits you with so much

02:45:21.540 depth that it's almost like you're watching a different movie because you don't know where

02:45:26.340 it's going to go the entire time there's so many ways this film could have played it safe and it

02:45:30.580 didn't but then i know you're kind of hoping that it gives you a little bit more maybe that's the

02:45:36.420 joke that's the comedy of all it's like not that he died then the the system survives that's it

02:45:43.060 yeah you know a slightly more humanitarian message and something that would have kind of tied up the

02:45:49.460 loose end of max's plot line because yeah i think i agree with you it just sort of seems like he

02:45:55.140 he gets off light but like if max kind of abducted beal in some way or like took him away from the

02:46:02.940 network before they were trying but before they succeeded in his his assassination and just like

02:46:09.100 i don't know like drove off with him or got him the kind of like help that he needed and there 0.98

02:46:15.400 was just this final gesture of like you know well maybe we've been full of shit our entire careers 0.95

02:46:19.940 maybe we're no better than than diana and it's all junk but like you were my friend howard and 0.97

02:46:27.260 i'm going to like take care of you or something like that that would have been like a bit of

02:46:31.480 humanity that the movie could have left left the viewer with but it that but it did it did not do

02:46:39.060 that yeah it's i keep coming back to the conflict that emerges at the end where it's like howard

02:46:46.280 beale is becoming less popular so as a result the entire network because he had the number one show

02:46:52.340 in the nation and now the entire network is hurting because he's losing share and he's the

02:46:56.800 lead-in to the mouse a dung hour the black radical show and they're pissed off about it too because 0.75

02:47:02.820 like you were saying earlier there's like a b plot following them in negotiations so they're

02:47:08.020 obviously marxist revolutionaries but that they're in contract negotiations with the execs and

02:47:14.720 they're more concerned about the profit sharing and syndication like it's it's very you know

02:47:20.480 that that is funny watching them just betray their principles and and once again the movie's

02:47:26.440 screaming at you that these revolutionaries are just sellouts and manipulators just like anyone

02:47:32.720 else even though they they do what they say they do they do rob bangs they do kidnap people they

02:47:37.780 did shoot howard beale at the end but that was only in a way to protect their time slot

02:47:43.680 you know to get him off the air so they get better ratings or something this is all coordinated by

02:47:49.840 diane this is all coordinated by the executives because they can't they can't fire him they can't

02:47:56.300 fire him for delivering the truth and this hurts diane's strategy of selling people on commoditized

02:48:04.200 revolution the corporatization of revolution so in that sense it's like a conflict between the

02:48:10.940 actual truth and like the entertainment counterculture and i guess the entertainment

02:48:17.980 counterculture wins and then the truth loses because the people weren't ready to hear it

02:48:23.900 um and then they shoot howard beale just to protect their ratings to protect their savings

02:48:28.540 to protect future deals um yeah so that that's that to me is the most interesting conflict like

02:48:36.380 Like it almost, it gets away from the past versus the present in the form of Max and Diane saying, you know, this is the future of TV and I'm the past and here's my commentary on that.

02:48:50.880 It just leaves that by the end of it.

02:48:53.400 But it leaves it without almost resolving it. 0.82

02:48:55.520 The way it resolves it is that they say TV sucks and it's ruining everything. 0.88

02:49:00.680 Bye. 0.96

02:49:01.760 That's it.

02:49:02.320 That's basically what Mac says as he's leaving, and then we kick off, like, the rest of the movie.

02:49:08.440 But I would have liked if that message was a bit more fleshed out.

02:49:13.500 You know, he understands he's a hack, but, like, what does that mean about all of TV?

02:49:18.920 Like, do you understand that?

02:49:20.380 Like, do you understand that you're the reason she exists?

02:49:23.580 Again, just to repeat that, that is what was missing, I think.

02:49:28.460 Yeah.

02:49:28.900 the um i'm curious to ask you this question dimes like why do you think the like the the chairman

02:49:35.820 jensen wants like what is his goal in sending beal back out to deliver his message after he

02:49:45.260 you know i guess reprograms him or gives him his you know burning bush moment like what is what is

02:49:53.000 like tact tactically strategically what does he want and and and again like um i forget the name

02:49:59.200 of robert duvall's character but like his ratings start to dip and diana and duvall want to want to

02:50:06.840 pull him they want to yank his show but jensen says no so like what is jiff what what is jensen

02:50:14.460 achieving for his own goals by keeping beal in that spot despite the ratings i'd wonder that

02:50:22.100 And because I was thinking, like, was he setting up Howard Beale as a sacrifice?

02:50:28.060 He wanted him to get shot.

02:50:29.840 But I don't think so, because I'm getting in Arthur Jensen's head.

02:50:32.860 If I wanted Howard Beale humiliated, he was accomplishing that.

02:50:37.080 Like, his stock was declining.

02:50:39.360 His ratings were declining.

02:50:41.100 They could have just fired him, and he would have went away.

02:50:44.440 I don't think he gained anything from Howard Beale being shot or coronating that in any way.

02:50:50.160 so i i guess i have to believe that he just wanted the message out there but that's an

02:50:55.760 interesting question because as i was watching i was thinking the same thing like what for what

02:51:00.300 reason does he want this does he just want to inform america about what america really is but

02:51:07.000 who would benefit he must know they're not ready for that it did movie or maybe like if the he

02:51:13.160 feels like if the message gets uh repeated or again and again over the airwaves it'll just

02:51:19.020 become banalized and people will it will become uninteresting to people yeah because just so

02:51:25.580 people at home listening are clear this is all speculation on our part because the movie doesn't

02:51:31.020 say but if i if we're treating this like the real world i think that's as close as you can get like

02:51:38.320 they're i'm trying to get this raving crazy man to just repeat this thing until it becomes 0.98

02:51:44.760 lukewarm to people and then he's but you know you know shooting him would make a martyr out of him 1.00

02:51:51.860 would it not like he's shot by the the ecumenical liberation front or wherever the fucking name is 0.97

02:51:58.480 and it's like yeah they did like they made a martyr out of him which would seem counterintuitive 0.97

02:52:02.680 like you'd want him to just fizzle away into the background if that that would be a great way to do

02:52:09.280 it like i would love if the movie had that i would love the movie gave you a little bit at the end

02:52:14.060 that this was a planned sacrifice or this is a way to like that would have been the way to end

02:52:19.980 it by saying we're using this man this broken sad suicidal man to normalize this narrative to

02:52:28.320 the american people and then just watch him and maybe he rides off into the sunset with max maybe

02:52:35.840 you can give him a happy ending but the the real depressing ending would be that he's just being

02:52:40.840 used to normalize the awful truth and by wouldn't that be interesting just by repeating the truth

02:52:49.140 it allows lies to proliferate because people get tired of the truth it's not that they're too 0.99

02:52:54.920 stupid it's not that the truth is too hard to understand it's that they get it but they're 0.97

02:52:59.720 fucking bored with it i would have loved if that was the final message i don't think it was 1.00

02:53:05.000 but it allows us to get on our fucking prosecutable podcasts and just riff on it 0.97

02:53:13.980 but uh that was a very good question and i think if people were watching this now like i think more 0.63

02:53:19.580 most people come to the same conclusion because the movie demands to be taken seriously it invites

02:53:24.580 you to dwell on it i think if you are dwelling on it that that will become clear very fast

02:53:30.840 because that's the most remarkable part of the movie.

02:53:34.120 I think that, I guess, a few thoughts

02:53:36.960 as to how this movie has aged.

02:53:40.680 Like, what is it like to watch this in the 2020s?

02:53:45.220 And I think there's one aspect that it's kind of wrong about,

02:53:49.580 which is the idea that infotainment, right?

02:53:53.200 If this movie is about the birth of infotainment,

02:53:56.280 if the idea that infotainment is...

02:54:00.840 apolitical or indifferent or is just this kind of you know libidinal economy to get you know

02:54:08.680 fancy and french about it it's just it's just like they're pursuing everybody's like amygdala

02:54:13.920 like our base instincts are being fed when they're coca-cola or something or a candy bar

02:54:19.500 manufacturer like we just make slop for people we we're not political we're not beholden to

02:54:24.480 anything like that but but infotainment is like an incredible political tool and it is wielded

02:54:34.560 it is wielded for very deliberate political reasons that have to do with like nationalism

02:54:43.520 or identity or all of the things that this movie seems to be claiming don't exist you know like

02:54:50.380 think about john stewart and the daily show like infotainment was just that was just infotainment

02:54:56.660 like mocking and ridiculing red state americans for for a decade and you know if um what do you

02:55:07.580 want what do you think you're gonna find if you take a look at the the screenwriters early

02:55:12.520 lifetimes what's the early life on this guy i i never heard him before well his name's patty

02:55:19.700 which tells me irish but i look at his face and i say heavens no yeah yeah what else has he written

02:55:29.360 when did he die he hasn't written oh well he's born in 1923 died in 81 okay that makes sense

02:55:35.260 yeah so i guess i'm just saying that the idea that this was um this seems to be saying in some

02:55:43.640 way that like tv is the death of politics or or like tv is the death of identity politics

02:55:50.620 and identity politics was always an illusion and i'm not sure that that is um

02:55:57.320 that's holding up to be the case i think like identity and nationalism sorry i think you cut

02:56:05.140 out there just uh at the end what was the last thing you said oh just that i i don't think that

02:56:10.320 the things that the movie

02:56:13.520 is... Are you still there?

02:56:15.280 I can't hear you right now.

02:56:16.840 I don't know.

02:56:18.580 Can you hear me now?

02:56:20.660 I can hear you.

02:56:23.140 Can you still hear me?

02:56:24.760 Yeah.

02:56:26.640 How am I coming through now? Any better?

02:56:30.320 No?

02:56:31.020 All right, keep talking. I was trying to figure out

02:56:32.940 this audio problem here.

02:56:34.300 Yo, yo, yo. Yeah, I got you now. I don't know what happened

02:56:36.920 to switch the audio

02:56:38.980 off i got you now all right so we're talking about this this dead jewish man i think last

02:56:45.740 i think the point that i was making dimes is just that the idea that um nationalism identity

02:56:54.980 these things were going to be dissolved by television and these were all illusory to begin

02:57:01.860 with yes yes the last the last decade of politics has i think you could seriously question that

02:57:10.280 that presumption that network makes yeah and also you still see that pretty popular now

02:57:17.980 in our space this is what a lot of the elite theory guys talk about that on the high end

02:57:24.220 power the elites but power as such it is not beholden to any spirituality ideology any other

02:57:33.400 system of thought it only seeks out to maximize its own power for its own sake and it will only

02:57:39.180 utilize things like religion or politics or nationalism or whatever it might be to you know

02:57:46.560 puppet the populace or to trick people it doesn't actually believe in any of those things and i don't

02:57:53.660 believe that to be true i just think you know cursory understanding of how these things operate

02:58:00.420 shows that's not very true at all but it was back then you could be forgiven by saying look we're

02:58:08.080 entering into a globalized corporate world of course in the future it's going to be purely

02:58:12.460 materialist we will move past these petty definitions of things and embrace something like

02:58:20.860 you know a new religion a new sort i mean they're talking about transhumanism even back then

02:58:25.580 but uh i am surprised how many people still believe that and maybe the exact same amount

02:58:31.780 of people still believe that yeah yeah so i don't know i think we actually live in i feel like i live

02:58:40.240 in less cynical times than the times in which this uh film was made and i think i'm even less

02:58:48.520 maybe i'm even a little bit less cynical about media than this movie would you you'd recommend

02:58:56.380 this movie i assume though right i definitely would you know i think another thing that that

02:59:02.020 kind of sullies it for me and i'm i'm sure i'm not the first person to make this observation

02:59:07.920 but it's it's just it's so obvious that like aaron sorkin styles himself after this film

02:59:13.520 um like the dude that wrote the west wing and like the oh yeah i know i know who i know who he is

02:59:20.000 yeah it's like the same style of dialogue but with like like shit lib messaging stuffed into

02:59:28.020 every third sentence um and so you feel like even though this is much older than when aaron sorkin

02:59:34.120 began his career you feel like you're uh you you you feel sorkin um in the in in the dna of the 0.96

02:59:42.980 the film in some sort of like retrograde way fuck man i got into a big debate the other day with 0.94

02:59:50.180 someone because i said money ball was a great movie and they got mad at me and i will you know 0.92

02:59:55.940 what we should end on this let's end with some controversy i like aaron sorkin i don't care who 0.88

03:00:01.220 fucking knows it i thought that i thought that that steve jobs movie is masterful it's a master 0.79

03:00:09.540 class i haven't seen that one in in structure in plotting of of really just embracing a three-act 0.98

03:00:16.820 structure and the idea that the entire film is just it takes place in the the hectic few minutes

03:00:25.540 before he steps on stage to introduce a product like using like event planning as almost a 0.96

03:00:33.140 a background for it and just it's really really good money ball is good fucking few good men 0.94

03:00:40.380 good west wing don't i don't give a shit about the west wing what i care about is charlie wilson's 0.92

03:00:48.360 war which wasn't great but it could have been better but it's like you take there's some great 0.88

03:00:54.400 stuff in there sure yeah no i can't i can't completely disregard him the news the newsroom 0.63

03:01:01.620 was a show on hbo that was just an overdose on shit liberty i think the newsroom ruined him for

03:01:08.840 a lot of people understandably i get that i'm just saying you should watch steve jobs maybe

03:01:15.120 do that next year but i there's there's there's a there's a magic in that film i think you're

03:01:21.840 gonna like it even if it embraces all of these even if the dialogue it's all it's a sorkin

03:01:28.860 like dialogue but you know quentin tarantino is a quentin tarantino like dialogue but

03:01:33.060 that to me doesn't devalue it just because it is of that style i can appreciate that alongside

03:01:39.240 you know francis for coppola or ridley scott or whatever no i mean people need to see it it's it's

03:01:48.160 an important movie um and and yeah and that was it's it's definitely worth everybody's time and

03:01:54.560 like you said it's got some classic lines everybody has heard some of these lines even if you don't

03:01:59.360 know that you've heard them you've heard them yeah i think it's an essential movie i think

03:02:03.360 people who care about films need to see it um even it just to say that you did just to understand

03:02:11.280 to have that in the back of your mind when you're watching other films like everyone should watch

03:02:16.080 the godfather i don't care if you like the godfather you need to watch the godfather you

03:02:20.880 You need to watch Goodfellas.

03:02:22.320 You need to watch Bridge Over the River Quires.

03:02:25.760 There's these certain films that you shouldn't be allowed to watch a lot of movies

03:02:30.280 until you've watched these classics,

03:02:32.180 because you don't understand what a good thing is.

03:02:36.600 Like, if you only watch movies that are made after 2010, 0.99

03:02:39.220 I don't know how you fucking watch movies. 0.97

03:02:41.580 You know what I mean? 1.00

03:02:42.100 Like, you've got to watch Dirty Harry and shit like that. 0.65

03:02:44.820 So, anyway, this is going on way, way too long. 0.96

03:02:47.720 But I think it's essential.

03:02:49.080 I think you will be better at watching films and appreciating them and appreciating satire if you watch this at some point in your life.

03:03:02.080 100%.

03:03:02.560 Let's wrap it there, Dimes. 0.78

03:03:05.140 Thanks again. 0.91

03:03:06.120 I had a great time.

03:03:07.180 Thank you so much for having me.

03:03:08.360 I never want to stop doing this.

03:03:11.100 I'm never going to stop, man.

03:03:12.700 One speed, full speed.

03:03:13.700 we'll be doing this when we're like uh like howard beal and max schumacher just drunk stumbling in

03:03:20.260 the rain to our taxi as rob zombie said never gonna stop me never gonna stop

03:03:27.520 Hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling, toss salads and scrambled eggs.

03:03:46.420 And maybe I seem a bit confused.

03:03:49.460 Yeah, maybe, but I got you, Peg.

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