Blood Satellite - Speeding Up to Negative's Pace [“Break in Japan thinks it up in Ontario”]

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.720 blood satellite there is this thing we're just talking about that i thought was interesting and

00:00:21.840 we're not starting off very jovial but it was something i was thinking about recently

00:00:27.240 uh we're talking about this thing called the distant right um and annoyingly every time i'm

00:00:33.140 in an interview i describe it as broadly this thing we call the distant right because i'm always

00:00:37.380 trying to hedge my definition because what is it really it's not what is this thing right you also

00:00:43.320 say this thing of ours this thing of ours sometimes known as the dissident writers you always give it

00:00:48.580 a big florid introduction i stole that from thomas 777 but in a in a very real way he

00:00:57.120 saw that from the mafia so but really though like it's i was thinking about it because

00:01:04.960 it's a it's a movement what it whatever it is it talks about itself a lot there's no other

00:01:12.820 political milieu that is so facing inward all the time the dissident right talks about the

00:01:20.480 dissident right incessantly and about what is it who's in it what are the boundaries what's

00:01:25.900 trying to accomplish and um you know what i had landed on was because it's not a movement it's not

00:01:31.840 anything like the the bug is the feature the fact that it's a disjointed mess kind of like nrx was

00:01:38.000 nrx didn't make any sense the neo-reactionary movement it makes no sense that nick land and

00:01:43.420 curtis yarvin would be side by side they actually don't they don't really have a lot in common

00:01:47.420 no you're just lepers like the only thing you have in common is you're sick and you're standing

00:01:51.600 outside the door and nobody wants to talk to you like that's what we are so that's the thing it's

00:01:55.880 what it is it's like a giant decentralized think tank that's the way i looked at it it's literally

00:02:02.700 just a place for people to hurl insane ideas at each other and we will joke about the economy of

00:02:09.520 takes and things like that like like we're above that like no that's i think that's all we're doing

00:02:15.400 but i don't think that's a bad thing a place where i think all we can do is fight and throw

00:02:22.160 increasingly insane ideas

00:02:23.940 and find value in that

00:02:26.400 but like it made a lot

00:02:28.260 more sense I was just paying attention to some chats

00:02:30.320 the other day what people trying to kind of

00:02:32.220 put the pin down

00:02:34.120 what this thing is and I'm like I think it's just

00:02:36.140 a giant street fight

00:02:37.400 and I don't think it should be anything else

00:02:40.000 I think it just is that first third

00:02:42.280 of Mad Max Fury Road

00:02:43.680 and

00:02:45.980 there's nothing wrong with that

00:02:47.580 it's the best part of the movie that in the end

00:02:50.420 it is yeah

00:02:51.560 that part of that movie is better than all of the 1990s and that's movie corner that's it for

00:02:59.760 this week did we want to start with this no no it's okay well no okay because i'm joking because

00:03:05.600 i know that we we did actually have a film that we both watched this time to talk about but was

00:03:10.240 that your whole comment on the the problem or state of the dr i think i'm trying to i guess

00:03:17.980 i'm trying to put a boundary on myself where with what i just said in mind are we just doomed to

00:03:24.440 become more and more insane with our takes because it does seem like a novelty take generator and

00:03:30.880 that's interesting because always that's what a think tank does a think tank i was watching

00:03:36.020 a video about uh it was a profile of a conservative think tank from the 1970s and the video i was

00:03:45.140 watching it was literally two guys the types of guys that only existed in that that era it's like

00:03:50.260 old white guys that could be either 35 or 60. like they're they're a combination of both of those

00:03:57.520 ages if you look at their face and huge glasses right and they're just two guys sitting at a table

00:04:04.160 the hudson institute in this 19th century mansion they are looking for alternative futures

00:04:12.040 both utopian and dystopian the end product of this think tank scenarios scripts for the 21st century

00:04:20.840 you know let's admit that the affluence the skills technology will really make life better

00:04:27.320 in all kinds of ways but you know we also know these things go badly okay everybody's worried

00:04:36.040 about the the possibilities of you know various kinds of social controls and so on

00:04:40.020 what would the scenario be?

00:04:42.840 Herman Kahn is director of the institute,

00:04:45.120 Tony Wiener, his assistant.

00:04:46.460 It has to involve the social controls

00:04:48.800 coming into effect gradually and slowly

00:04:53.400 and at each step as a result of some decision

00:04:56.240 which seems to be very much in the general interest.

00:04:59.220 And this was before AI, before computers.

00:05:01.980 So their version of computers was

00:05:03.780 a guy who went to two universities saying,

00:05:06.960 what do you think is going to happen in the future?

00:05:08.340 is like well we could run out of corn okay what happens then well we run out of corn and then the

00:05:13.400 soldiers have done corn to eat the soldiers revolt like they're just going through scenarios they're

00:05:18.820 writing and no one's writing anything down no this guy's asking questions they're just they're

00:05:25.200 spitting it out into the ether so it's just the boys in the group chat essentially was 1970s

00:05:30.780 think tanks this is what i'm getting at every single group chat on telegram is a think tank

00:05:37.860 and you're thinking oh it can't just be that it is and there's guys in these these chats who went

00:05:42.760 to university they might have gone to harvard they might have gone to stanford so there's

00:05:46.120 functionally no difference between that and the think tank yeah and then so i'm wondering like

00:05:51.220 okay like what do we do with that is the only missing piece that we're not writing a report on

00:05:56.180 it and i mean that seriously i mean that go into your average group chat and someone puts this

00:06:02.060 into that you get a nice piece of paper with a heading and everything and you put it in a nice

00:06:08.180 folder is is that it well it's a matter it's a matter of framing right because you'd think in

00:06:12.580 the 1970s think tank it was organized by some central institution or authority who would

00:06:17.680 probably have been recording it and in our case i mean in the case of our chat you created it we

00:06:23.560 have a couple of mods but nobody's recording it but sorry nobody none of us are recording but that

00:06:28.000 doesn't mean nobody's recording it there's probably somebody recording it maybe durov is

00:06:32.060 recording it maybe murdoch is recording it you know maybe maybe the reason telegram is free is

00:06:37.660 because somebody is farming this street fight of political takes it turns out a think tank it's a 0.93

00:06:45.960 silly name but it literally is just a tank that you think in damn wow we thought we were they're 0.99

00:06:53.380 being quirky with the name no it literally is just a bunch of assholes in a room saying what 0.99

00:06:59.080 else would you call it a tank full of thinks that's all it is what can you call it anything 0.99

00:07:05.000 is it your duty to call it anything else no your duty is to call it what it is a tank of thinks

00:07:09.520 they probably had all kinds of really like weird poetic metaphorical names and then 0.98

00:07:14.280 fucking reagan i don't know it's like no god damn it it's a think tank it says we should have 0.98

00:07:21.080 we should have brought a poet how do you how do you reagan all i know do is well 0.99

00:07:27.600 oh i'm ronald reagan i was i was thinking i was thinking of nixon that's what it was 0.83

00:07:33.400 reagan was the 80s anyways wasn't he i was thinking of nixon god damn it oh i'm i'm 0.73

00:07:39.540 reagan robin williams robin williams ai as reagan as reagan as internet hitler

00:07:49.960 you saw that picture the picture of the kid drew of hitler that's everywhere this week man

00:07:59.180 someone didn't make a point they're like that's the award-winning comic of the year i'm like

00:08:04.980 that just says it all yeah it's over the west has fallen a child drew hitler stopped the presses

00:08:13.600 was it actually a child though yeah that's the story i heard that it was the story was

00:08:20.880 a jewish teacher uh was leaving their job their position as a teacher because a child had

00:08:28.640 knew they were jewish and drew a picture of hitler smugly smiling and wrote it wrote a message that

00:08:36.160 i couldn't read because it's when a kid writes something you have to really look at it or have

00:08:40.720 it be your kid i don't know what they wrote i think it was just like i don't i don't like you

00:08:43.880 you're a meanie here's hitler because you're jewish right yeah yeah yeah and it was a big big

00:08:48.620 story but the image of hitler the kid drew is very very funny but then also so smug it's funny 0.77

00:08:55.480 that we just got it wrong because you'll hear everyone say oh we need young blood in the 0.68

00:08:58.560 movement we just overshot and got seven year olds damn it like we just can't get it right 0.61

00:09:07.080 I don't even know if I want to talk about this 0.93

00:09:11.380 but before we get into movie corner

00:09:13.300 did you want to talk about this

00:09:15.640 I hope this isn't dated

00:09:17.680 by the time this airs

00:09:19.180 because we're going to be doing it a couple days early

00:09:20.940 but have you been following this thing with

00:09:23.240 the submarine

00:09:24.580 I got stranded looking for the Titanic

00:09:26.680 I can tell from your reaction right away

00:09:29.140 you seem to like this

00:09:30.240 we were just looking at it and making jokes about it

00:09:33.040 like an hour ago, me and the wife

00:09:34.460 so yeah

00:09:35.020 LISA DESJARDINS- Rescuers are racing against the clock

00:09:38.940 and a dwindling oxygen supply to find the submersible lost at sea.

00:09:43.580 This operation is our top priority.

00:09:45.500 LISA DESJARDINS- This afternoon, U.S. Coast Guard officials in Boston

00:09:48.620 updated the public on what they called an incredibly complex operation.

00:09:52.780 Since Sunday, the Coast Guard has coordinated search efforts

00:09:56.620 with the U.S. and Canadian Coast Guard, Air National Guard aircraft and the Polar Prince,

00:10:01.100 which is searched to combine 7,600 square miles, an area larger than the state of Connecticut.

00:10:06.540 To date, those search efforts have not yielded any results.

00:10:10.620 For the five passengers on board, time is of the essence.

00:10:14.540 We know there's about 40 hours of breathable air left based on that initial report.

00:10:20.140 In the very, very deep submersibles like the Titan, 4,000 meters deep, there are only

00:10:31.640 10 vehicles in the whole world that can go 4,000 meters or deeper, and all of them are

00:10:37.360 certified except the Titan.

00:10:40.720 So it is an outlier.

00:10:43.220 Experts in the industry at the conference voiced concern, what are we going to do?

00:10:48.080 is very risky we understand the the strategy but it is very risky for everybody it i'm going to say

00:10:56.040 this it's very very difficult not to find this funny i know that's strange like because here's

00:11:03.740 here's the thing so first of all by the time this airs this might be resolved and i've been consuming

00:11:09.360 a lot of news on and analysis on this topic just to make sure i'm getting this right because i'm

00:11:15.000 getting a lot of wrong information and there's a guy on twitter uh christopher sandbatch he'd

00:11:21.520 ask a question he's like i'm hearing people talk about people dying in a submarine what's happening

00:11:25.640 and i had to summarize it just like how do you summarize the situation to someone who doesn't

00:11:29.680 know i was like okay well the when these people are trapped in the submarine the left seems to be

00:11:36.220 happy that a billionaire is going to die uh the right seems to be happy that a guy who was

00:11:44.440 supposedly anti-white is going to die and there might be some like there's different ways to be

00:11:51.220 happy that these people are going to die that's my read on the situation but the problem is that 0.85

00:11:56.880 i'm also getting a lot of bad information because essentially everyone is learning about this 0.98

00:12:01.820 through memes no one's reading any official shit i read two just random memes before we air like 0.97

00:12:08.280 there's this one that people were passing around and it looked like a fucking scan from a newspaper 0.96

00:12:13.140 like why would that why would that exist right but they were saying that they're trying to like 0.87

00:12:18.460 ping the submarine and in all likelihood that it's the same audio track playing over and over

00:12:25.020 again in the submarine it's the song my heart will go on from titanic and like okay what are

00:12:33.120 the odds that my heart celine dion's my heart will go on is playing in a loop and that means

00:12:38.120 there i mean i have no evidence of that but people are just passing that around in total darkness

00:12:43.060 yeah and i and i guess this is the thing this is the other thing that again we're starting off this

00:12:49.380 episode as a giant bummer i get that but let me just say this above all else these poor souls

00:12:58.100 trapped at the bottom of the ocean i would not wish this on my worst enemies

00:13:03.280 this is if i'm really thinking about what is occurring here it is my greatest nightmare

00:13:11.240 it's everyone's it's everybody's greatest nightmare it's maybe worse than being buried

00:13:17.000 alive it's being buried alive at the bottom of the ocean so it's like i'm buried alive and it's

00:13:23.220 darker than darkness and there's monsters out there and they'll never find me like it's it's

00:13:29.360 10 times worse i can't even thinking about it right now i'm going a little bit insane thinking

00:13:35.140 about what that would be like so part it's it's funny in one sense on the other sense i'm like

00:13:39.480 this is very this is a tragedy okay now you push back where am i right i i don't know i would use

00:13:48.720 the word tragedy very loosely like to me a tragedy is something that's like was was unavoidable

00:13:54.980 unpredictable couldn't have happened to a nicer guy no i mean i think the first of all the left

00:14:00.600 wing and right wing takes are both correct you have anti-white retard who intentionally did 0.97

00:14:06.040 everything wrong on this project and you also have filthy rich billionaire who decided to spend his 1.00

00:14:10.340 money on the dumbest fucking thing possible so i mean i mean on i'm actually cheering on both sides 0.99

00:14:15.220 and i'm glad that this guy's gonna drown you're cheering on two separate deaths but then for it 1.00

00:14:20.320 to be a tragedy wouldn't it be like you know there's an orphan on board well no there's like

00:14:24.740 a pakistani wealthy pakistani english son of a diplomat it's like oh good i mean we don't know 0.97

00:14:32.120 one less we have to fucking shoot right well also given the demographics that we have down there 0.96

00:14:37.120 there's a non-zero chance that he did smuggle in a white orphan there's probably okay there might 0.99

00:14:42.660 actually be you never know you know the the adrenochrome booster in the aft deck has probably

00:14:47.600 got a white orphan no child deserves a watery grave and i'm firm on that i just love seeing 0.98

00:14:53.980 stuff fail when it is i love i let's schadenfreude schultz fucking don't shoot me schadenfreude i 0.99

00:15:04.600 love watching it fail especially when that doesn't even have to be my enemies just people who thought 0.84

00:15:10.200 that they were so fucking cool i'm gonna i'm gonna go build a submarine and watch the titanic 0.98

00:15:14.380 using an xbox controller nope you're dead of course everything sounds dumb if you do it in 0.93

00:15:18.720 that voice well that's what it is though i bet he even said that you know i here's the thing i 0.99

00:15:23.240 watched uh daily mail i think yesterday interview with another fucking billionaire jew who'd been 0.97

00:15:29.820 down in the submarine like four or five times and he's like it's the weirdest thing because 0.97

00:15:34.560 every single trip we took there was communications problems but you know that's just the nature of

00:15:39.740 the beast there's gonna be communications problems in a submarine no there's not the 0.99

00:15:43.600 fuck are you talking about so like this is a known issue you people are supposed to be smarter you 0.99

00:15:48.820 know by virtue of your wealth you're smarter than everyone else uh than the rest of us and yet none 1.00

00:15:53.800 of you thought to flag an obvious technical problem with something that could kill you

00:15:58.420 at any moment and it was never resolved so i mean it is literally like the real headline is

00:16:05.480 fastest man in world shot out of canon for hundredth time finally hits brick wall like okay 0.84

00:16:10.560 hilarious i mean it's the fucking circus at this point well you know who put the brick wall there 0.91

00:16:15.960 that's and you would never even ask that question never even occur to you 0.88

00:16:19.780 but but i remember a couple of things um on one hand there i was listening to this uh yacht expert

00:16:26.500 i don't know why but he was talking about how these submersibles usually have like four or

00:16:32.580 five fail safes or they're supposed to they have according to one report uh seven types of

00:16:39.960 redundant systems on board to refloat this vessel if they get into trouble and a number of those

00:16:45.660 systems work if there's a power failure so if all lights go out and there's no power they can still

00:16:51.420 resurface this vessel there are weights that they can drop to make to create buoyancy there are

00:16:57.200 propellers that that point up to push the vessel up and there are the airbags that can be inflated

00:17:04.260 to lift the vessel up to the surface now one idea is that the vessel has surfaced and it's bobbing

00:17:12.280 around on the water waiting to be picked up this is unlikely it's possible but it's unlikely and

00:17:18.320 the reason why is because if they were on the surface they could use radios to communicate

00:17:21.940 now they might only have vhf radios or shortwave radios on the vessel you know they're supposed to

00:17:29.160 be like these emergency inflatable bags that bring to the surface they've got spare propellers 0.71

00:17:34.000 like they've got all these different idiot proof mechanisms so that this doesn't happen and i

00:17:39.520 guess not this one i i yeah that's odd you know well you know you i mean you haven't brought it 0.95

00:17:45.900 up i don't know if you if you knew but he apparently he had a whole bunch of engineers

00:17:49.120 like ex-navy engineers and he decided to get rid of them because they weren't inspiring enough

00:17:53.220 and a bunch of the other ones that he didn't fire actually quit the project because they kept

00:17:57.880 flagging this and saying this is totally not safe and he's like no we need to use off-the-shelf 0.98

00:18:02.400 parts to keep the price down in order to make the tickets more affordable and there's no fuck this 0.64

00:18:06.640 this isn't safe and they all left the project i would say probably the smartest thing he did do

00:18:11.360 is what he's getting criticized for which is using like a playstation 2 controller

00:18:17.520 hi my name is stockton rush i'm the ceo and founder of ocean gate let's take a look at titan

00:18:25.120 so we're coming into the sub this is the only toilet available on a deep diving submersible

00:18:30.720 best seat in the house you can look out the viewport we put a privacy screen in

00:18:34.980 turn up the music and it's very popular we have our control screen here our

00:18:41.640 sonar screen here and we can put any image we want in the back taking a

00:18:45.720 completely new approach to the sub design and it's all run with this game

00:18:49.080 controller and these touch screens so if you want to go forward you press forward

00:18:53.160 if you want to go back you go back turn left turn right go down go up and it's

00:18:57.840 bluetooth so i can hand it to anybody and it's meant for a 16 year old to throw it around and

00:19:02.560 super durable we keep a couple of spares on board just in case if you see that smartest thing it's

00:19:07.680 because what is more durable and reliable than a playstation 2 controller

00:19:11.740 like that's like if you've ever used this those will never break and i'd say at my peak of gaming

00:19:20.040 when the ps2 was active like you could hurl that across the room you could probably have that under 0.98

00:19:25.200 all that pressure in the open ocean and it would still work so i think he's getting shit on for 0.99

00:19:31.440 the wrong thing frankly we got all these fucking xbox assholes in the chat these fucking pc master 0.99

00:19:39.340 race losers telling us that playstation controllers aren't durable all day people are 1.00

00:19:44.880 pissing on my cone telling me it's raining first of all i got a lot of people in my ear my left 0.96

00:19:49.580 you're telling me if he was using an N64

00:19:51.340 controller

00:19:52.060 it would have been different 1.00

00:19:54.580 bunch of horse shit 1.00

00:19:57.200 this is a Sony 1.00

00:19:59.500 this is a Sony podcast now

00:20:01.500 the latest stage of the console

00:20:03.740 wars

00:20:04.400 Gamergate never died

00:20:09.240 the competing submarine that went down

00:20:13.740 with an Xbox controller is actually still

00:20:15.620 totally fine

00:20:16.420 that one that went down that no one missed

00:20:19.300 you can always tell the the nautical tragedies that get the most press because they get mentioned

00:20:28.480 in psx magazine all right so we got a couple things to talk about this is gonna be a very

00:20:39.740 dumb episode we got we got it's gonna end really well because we have an interview at the end that

00:20:45.800 i'm very excited about with jeremy mckenzie the raging dissident so stay tuned for that it's a

00:20:51.880 pretty long one too um and then we're gonna end this episode with a very very serious very sober

00:21:00.360 geopolitical analysis but the road to get there is going to be fraught with landmines of retardation

00:21:07.700 as usual as it the huge yeah um now i think we need to we owe it to ourselves

00:21:17.140 to our audience to do an emergency movie corner

00:21:21.300 yes now the reason is that this is the first movie maybe ever that

00:21:37.620 we both watched i think we talked about lighthouse a couple years ago and we'd both seen it but i

00:21:44.320 can't remember that's what you were i can't remember if i saw it or if i dreamed it it's

00:21:48.400 that good it's that good it seems like an annoying movie that i would come up with that's the reason

00:21:54.220 yeah what if i fucked with the aspect ratio um the movie is bow is afraid with joaquin phoenix

00:22:02.700 directed by Ari Asner. 0.97

00:22:05.220 And what a movie for both of us to see.

00:22:08.640 Oh, boy.

00:22:10.000 This, it might be,

00:22:13.080 I'm going to go on a,

00:22:14.180 because I'm really trying to parse through my thoughts here

00:22:17.060 and my memories, because I see a lot of movies.

00:22:19.260 This might be the strangest movie I've ever seen.

00:22:24.600 I'm visiting my mother tomorrow.

00:22:29.140 Hi, Carrot. It's Mom.

00:22:30.820 I'm just calling to say that I'm so, so, so excited to see you tomorrow.

00:22:35.060 You're my angel, and I love you.

00:22:38.300 Okay.

00:22:39.020 I love you.

00:22:40.000 Okay, bye, sweetie.

00:22:41.220 I love you.

00:22:44.620 Are you at the airport?

00:22:46.100 I'm on my way.

00:22:46.860 I just...

00:22:48.160 It's not safe, is it?

00:22:50.540 What do you think I should do?

00:22:52.420 I'm sure you'll do the right thing, sweetheart.

00:22:54.240 and i say that knowing i've seen ari astner's other work he did hereditary he did a lot of

00:23:05.420 these a24 he did midsummer i believe as well he's got track record of these sort of slow burn horror

00:23:11.940 movies uh that are very very explicit when they need to be as well just like this movie but then

00:23:18.380 the movie totally is

00:23:21.320 different than those other movies

00:23:22.600 and what it seemed like it was

00:23:25.160 Ari Aster doing Charlie Kaufman

00:23:27.420 and Charlie Kaufman

00:23:29.600 people don't know direct writer

00:23:31.280 and director he did

00:23:33.520 being John Malkovich

00:23:35.140 Connecticut New York adaptation

00:23:37.060 more recently he did

00:23:39.140 I'm Thinking of Ending Things

00:23:40.920 and Anomalisha

00:23:42.240 he did Synecdoche New York I didn't know that

00:23:45.380 I thought that was didn't he die before that

00:23:47.440 no no philip seymour hoffman was the actor and oh that's what i'm thinking hoffman died okay yeah

00:23:54.500 yeah that was one of his last movies one of his darker movies and this is an actor known for

00:24:00.060 dark movies but like this movie seemed like ari asker doing charlie copy he's very cerebral

00:24:06.420 very almost dreamlike uh you never know if things are to be taken literally and very grounded in

00:24:15.420 absurdity like even the way the movie was it built it started off comical and absurd and a lot of

00:24:22.900 charlie coffin movies start off like that like the way john being john malkovich ends is insanely

00:24:29.040 dark and frantic the way it starts it's it's silly almost for the sake of it and so that that's kind

00:24:35.300 of what's weird about the movie and i want to hear your opinion on this in a second but the entire

00:24:38.560 first part of the movie it's very very absurd and in retrospect you realize that a lot of the

00:24:44.460 absurdity didn't mean anything it was just funny for the sake of being funny and sometimes you're

00:24:49.160 probing it to find like what's the i better remember this for later and sometimes it's just 0.97

00:24:53.620 fucking goofy bullshit so first of all what did you think of the movie i've been rambling for a 0.95

00:24:57.360 second i i think i might have done the same thing you did i watched like the first i want to say two 0.99

00:25:04.160 acts and just for reference what i'm talking about there's like the apartment there's the

00:25:08.900 suburban home there's the theater in the woods and then there's his mother's house it's kind of like

00:25:13.140 to me like the four acts ish so the first two acts i watched and then i went to bed and then

00:25:18.860 two days later i went and watched the rest of it and at that point when i broke off i'm like this

00:25:23.280 sounds okay and then the like seems good and then the next day talking to harold and some guys in 0.51

00:25:28.440 the chat and about ari aster and how fucking jewish it is i'm like oh i'm gonna hate this i

00:25:31.940 was debating not watching the rest then i watched the rest and i actually like it i actually i 0.98

00:25:38.000 actually like this movie there's things about it there's things about it that i fucking hate

00:25:43.620 but i i can't not still like the whole movie overall yeah i think joaquin phoenix is amazing

00:25:50.700 in it um and for people just a brief overview it's a start joaquin phoenix as beau who's this

00:25:58.780 neurotic this weak this introspective this nervous nervous wreck living in this city

00:26:05.380 that's overrun with crime the worst place in the world kind of like a jewish story like this

00:26:10.480 neurotic he could be jewish i believe he is jewish in the context of in the context of the film he's

00:26:16.680 jewish yeah yeah his last name is wasserman wasserman and then the whole movie's about his

00:26:21.240 relationship to his mother and he's got to go visit his mother then a bunch of circumstances

00:26:27.240 mean that he can't and then he hears his mother dies so he embarks on a trek into the world

00:26:32.760 to go visit his mother's funeral.

00:26:36.180 They can't hold the funeral unless he's there.

00:26:38.360 It was like written into her will.

00:26:40.340 He's frantic.

00:26:40.960 He's panicking.

00:26:41.840 He doesn't know what to do.

00:26:42.500 And then on what follows is a crazy odyssey of him,

00:26:49.040 a mind-bending odyssey, truly a mind-bending odyssey

00:26:51.680 where he's going to his mother's funeral.

00:26:54.700 And we'll probably do some spoilers at some point,

00:26:57.440 but that's the setup.

00:26:59.120 And so the Jewish part you mentioned

00:27:01.880 was always front and center for me because i know it's ari astner who is you know again one of these

00:27:07.820 guys if you drew a picture of him you might get fined because he looks like an anti-semitic

00:27:13.560 stereotype so jewish and the type of movie that it is is the type of movie that jewish men love

00:27:20.400 to write jewish screenwriters love this the uniquely jewish relationship with the mother

00:27:26.400 the domineering mother um and the neuroses that go along with that i'm not saying i i hate that

00:27:33.140 there's been some really good stories told like that however and i think you might agree with me

00:27:38.500 i don't think the story was necessarily jewish because it's also the story of a single mother

00:27:45.800 and her son yes thank you i think i think the single mother and only son dynamic comes through

00:27:52.960 there and if they weren't just because that to me is a dynamic that doesn't get approached a lot

00:27:57.620 in movies and it's just sort of weird the mother who hates her ex-husband who died but she has got

00:28:04.860 something there's something with the dynamic of the woman who's got a serious grievance and hatred

00:28:11.040 of men but is raising a sight and how is she and and how does that dynamic play out that to me is

00:28:17.020 interesting because the and i don't know how intentional it was but to me the the jewish

00:28:20.800 mother trope is like um kind of neurotic batty jewish mom and then the dad is kind of henpecked

00:28:28.240 and the guy's like trying to dodge the mom and like making sideways glances and jokes with the

00:28:32.840 dad type thing right but with this it's like there is no dad in fact the dad is i will say the dad

00:28:39.540 is turned in essentially turned into a monster and the mother essentially kills her other and

00:28:44.500 he like eats her other children she's essentially a mythical demon at this point in scale and

00:28:50.780 emotionally the emotional scale of how awful she is is like she's she's hitler like no really like

00:28:57.500 she's she's the worst the worst and that's one of the things i liked about this is they pulled

00:29:02.880 every possible string to make her the most hateable character you could conceivably imagine 0.99

00:29:08.420 like even halfway into the film you want to tear her fucking eyes out with your fingers 0.98

00:29:12.920 she's so awful and she's masterfully portrayed i don't know who the actor was who played her 0.98

00:29:18.720 but she she portrays that woman so well and i'm gonna hazard a guess that this is the first and

00:29:26.040 truly anti-mother movie it is it's really anti-mom yeah it's and and i'm sorry and i should

00:29:32.080 say like the whole point that it's it it really is about the relationship between her and her son

00:29:37.360 and it's in the context of a very controlling single mother trying to trying to convince him

00:29:45.760 not to have sex trying to control his life and his relationships with women from a woman's

00:29:51.000 perspective like trying to put a woman's spin on everything that he does trying to keep him safe

00:29:55.340 there was a line in the film something about um i was always worried about you worried about your

00:30:00.860 health worried about your work worried that you weren't afraid enough like she's yeah i remember 0.95

00:30:06.220 that i remember that and that that stuck with the minute she said i'm like fuck that and it was in 0.89

00:30:10.060 the i think in the middle of the film that's it that's a core part of this film is single mother 0.86

00:30:14.840 worried that her male son is not afraid enough destroys his life at the age of 45 and and really

00:30:21.860 um as you're watching this movie the reason i again mentioned charlie kaufman for people who

00:30:27.080 know his movies there is always this question of like how much of this is real or how much of this

00:30:32.420 is and because charlie kaufman does this thing that i find somewhat frustrating as a viewer

00:30:37.920 is that he always seems to be telegraphing things to the audience he's always playing around the

00:30:43.880 fourth wall he's always trying to like send a meta message to the viewer which always breaks my

00:30:49.420 there's always something that breaks my immersion when i'm watching a charlie kaufman movie in

00:30:53.920 schenectice new york by the end he's almost talking to the viewer yes and i don't like that

00:30:58.820 and what i liked more about this is it's a completely self-contained movie is that nothing

00:31:04.340 in this movie is metaphorical i think everything is literal and that because in a charlie kaufman

00:31:10.720 movie you're viewing it as like a cerebral metaphysical drama but here if you view it just

00:31:17.080 as a horror movie because this is a guy who makes horror movies it makes a lot more sense because

00:31:22.820 then you know it doesn't have a happy ending there's no good things that really happen to

00:31:28.320 this character in the movie and you're trying to wonder it's like oh is this um or if this were a

00:31:33.280 coen brothers movie another yeah another one but like oh is this a metaphor or something no i think

00:31:38.960 it's just because i watch an interview with ari asner and someone that said you know what's the

00:31:44.460 movie about and he says it's actually pretty literal yeah it's like it's pretty much on screen

00:31:49.600 and then when i heard that i'm like oh yeah so it does it it is what it means to be it so right you

00:31:54.360 know the idea behind the movie for people i haven't watched i would encourage people to watch

00:31:58.420 it but it's almost a story of this neurotic you know guy where everything he fears comes true

00:32:05.340 literally everything you know it is it's not that it's metaphorical it's that it's like reductive or

00:32:09.900 or exaggerated but it's not but it's literal it's at the same time it's the whole thing and it gets

00:32:15.820 really weird in some parts but it's all like even the theater scene and it's like oh now he's part

00:32:20.900 of the theater but like have you ever been to a good theater production like that's that i mean

00:32:24.900 he's two hours into it and he's imagining himself as the protagonist like yeah that's what it is so

00:32:30.060 it is what it is that we'll come back to that in a second because that's an interesting part that's

00:32:34.640 probably the only part that is sort of metaphorical but it it lets you know that and that's sort of 0.82

00:32:40.640 like him wondering what would happen if his life were different but it still ends up fucked up

00:32:45.500 but um the idea is that he sees his mother as this huge big domineering figure in his life 0.78

00:32:52.400 and the reality is that she is that if as it's revealed in the story she's like i guess that

00:32:59.720 universe is equivalent of um like she she founded amazon essentially she's uh what who's the guy

00:33:08.080 i forget his name you know she is the woman jeff bezos and it's revealed that when he goes back

00:33:15.600 to his hometown it's called wasserberg he's going to a town named after his family and then he's

00:33:22.600 kind of going through his family home and he was and you had mentioned this that his mother had put

00:33:28.220 him and she was a pharmaceutical company that she ran this huge pharmaceutical company that

00:33:33.620 diversified like png or any of these huge conglomerates and like he was literally the 0.95

00:33:39.280 poster child for ssris and like munchausen syndrome medications and shit yeah yeah yeah 0.99

00:33:45.080 little things like that you see and so it's oh she actually is like a fucking multi-billionaire 0.97

00:33:51.100 who can move the levers of the world and so like it's revealed that oh he's right about everything 0.96

00:33:57.740 He's justifiably fearful.

00:33:59.840 None of it would.

00:34:00.460 That was one of the things I was wondering partway through.

00:34:02.100 It's like how much of this is like, because he's on, from the beginning of the film, he's on some kind of antidepressants.

00:34:08.500 And so there's an implication that maybe some of this is a hallucination.

00:34:11.560 It's like how much is hallucination?

00:34:12.820 How much is paranoia?

00:34:14.180 Like there's some of it is seen, but it might be hallucinatory.

00:34:17.000 Some of it is unseen, but it might be paranoia.

00:34:19.740 And it turns out that the seen things are real and literal and the paranoia isn't paranoia.

00:34:24.040 It's actually all true.

00:34:25.060 and he was right because he's just smart and he's reasonably justifiably afraid of these things

00:34:29.500 so which which is the true horror story there that you are right you are you are the only sane

00:34:35.940 person in a world gone insane and everyone is against you yes and like one of the it is laugh

00:34:42.280 out loud funny though like i i was laughing out loud in a way that i didn't think at the same

00:34:48.300 levels when i was watching i think you should leave recently like there's a scene it takes

00:34:54.160 well to build up but he's in this like decrepit rundown apartment building full of dogs barking

00:34:59.120 and women screaming on the street it's literally a melee it's just people it's what you would

00:35:04.900 imagine like new york city from a 1980s movie you look outside the window and it's it's like 0.99

00:35:11.460 people stabbing each other there's a like a fucking soup truck there and just one like latino 0.73

00:35:17.420 guy in short jean shorts dancing to no music the thing i loved about it is it's a tableau of like 0.99

00:35:22.980 these these caricatures there's like there's the there's the naked the naked hispanic guy dancing 0.86

00:35:27.720 to music nobody can hear there's the insane tattoo guy there's a long-haired crackhead 0.94

00:35:32.580 on the ground gouging the eyes out of another crackhead but then that entire tableau at one

00:35:38.820 point moves into his apartment that's what i'm about to say and then it looks in the window of 0.99

00:35:41.960 his apartment it's the exact same characters doing exactly the same thing the same fucking 0.93

00:35:46.340 guy gouging the eyes out on the floor of the other guy like it's standing up his kitchen 0.99

00:35:50.920 still getting his eyes gouged they just migrated inside and laughed so fucking hard at that

00:35:58.000 and and he's just because what it happens is like he never leaves the apartment building but he 0.76

00:36:03.260 loses his keys through a comedy of errors he's got to go to the store because he needs some water

00:36:08.260 because his water is turned off because he's got these pills he has to take and he has to take with

00:36:12.140 water otherwise he'll die so he's got like run but he has to wedge the door open of his apartment

00:36:18.720 complex with a phone book and it's a race against time to get across the street to get the water

00:36:22.660 and while he's out he's trying to pay for the bottle of water in the convenience store

00:36:27.260 and at he's trying to count the change doesn't have enough change as he looks by

00:36:31.500 he sees everyone from the street slowly filter into the building

00:36:35.820 and then literally just end up in his specific apartment 0.85

00:36:39.340 it's the funniest shit you can see but then that that kind of sets you up just like a charlie 0.87

00:36:46.640 coffee movie like that's it's absurd for no reason you know like there's things in there 0.98

00:36:51.920 that have no bearing on the rest of the story but later on like sorry continue so i was gonna say

00:36:58.320 because it depends on how you want to interpret it and i don't have a lot of story here but it

00:37:02.160 was implied later in the film that the apartment building and that whole block was built by his

00:37:07.040 mother and then also the doctor in the second act was an employee of the mother there's that

00:37:13.760 implication and that the wife of the doctor was like slipping him hidden

00:37:18.120 messages on napkins and stuff asking him to stop incriminating himself or

00:37:21.620 something so the point is there's an implication that and the implication and

00:37:24.740 admission at the end of the entire thing right down to like the clothes that he's

00:37:27.980 wearing was all built by her his mother is alive yeah yeah like like synecdoche

00:37:33.380 New York I was gonna say specifically the the third act with the whole theater

00:37:37.340 thing where he's like living a story within a story that he's talking to

00:37:41.660 himself and like it's it's essentially synecdoche new york like it's a world within world but then

00:37:46.200 the whole film is actually quite a bit like that as well so yeah it's that that the scene

00:37:54.200 in the with a theater troupe was i didn't know if i'd like it at the time but i think it ended

00:38:02.860 up being my favorite one it's the one i think about the most because he's like he stumbles

00:38:08.480 i won't go through the whole story but he stumbles across this like strange anarchistic theater

00:38:13.320 troupe living in the forest and they put on a show and then he's just watching it and he kind

00:38:20.300 of transports himself into the show um and it's kind of following his life basically like if he

00:38:25.800 had kids if he kind of lived in this village and what would be like because this is a guy

00:38:29.860 who's never gotten married i don't think he's ever had sex in by that point of the movie and so

00:38:36.020 it's kind of like what would happen if you

00:38:38.200 lived another life, a more traditional life

00:38:40.380 where you're a farmer in a village

00:38:41.700 and it still ends up that a great flood

00:38:44.260 separates him from his three sons

00:38:46.020 and he wanders the world and rediscovers them

00:38:48.240 later as an old man

00:38:50.560 it's like this really

00:38:51.800 wandering story that

00:38:53.820 gets you surprisingly invested into it

00:38:56.460 and then you realize that he's kind of

00:38:58.140 talking to himself as he's talking

00:39:00.180 to his sons and by the end of it

00:39:01.780 he's talking to his fake sons

00:39:03.940 and he's kind of confessing

00:39:05.620 it turns into a confession where he's saying you know and that's why i can never be intimate with

00:39:09.920 anyone and they're like well dad how did you have us then he snaps out of it but then he realized

00:39:14.120 that was him talking like he's never really been intimate with with anyone and realized that's kind

00:39:19.780 of because of his mother in a way but yeah then um so the kind of rug pull is no i guess you know

00:39:28.680 it's not the biggest surprise in the world that the mother turns out to be alive um at the end

00:39:33.200 and she was engineering this entire thing she faked her own death to make him feel guilty

00:39:38.620 that's the big story and based off of nothing but then there are parts where i thought they

00:39:46.420 were a metaphor but also i think the movie is literal so later on he goes up into the attic 0.98

00:39:53.000 and finds because his father is up there his father is a giant penis monster like a cartoonish 0.99

00:39:59.340 like yeah but like a seat like a giant cgi like a but not like like a penis monster i think all 1.00

00:40:07.760 he's like he's like a a golem creature like no it's it's like fucking 15 feet tall it's rick and 0.99

00:40:12.920 morty yeah yeah he has like big googly eyes and big lips on it yeah big lips and and these two 0.96

00:40:19.580 like praying mantis arms that are going and then he's he's everyone's just he's screaming and

00:40:25.800 everyone's screaming and i'm like i think i get the metaphor here that or do i i don't know like

00:40:32.300 that was the point where i'm like hmm and then like he he that monster gets defeat or he gets

00:40:38.400 out of the situation and then like his mother brings back down see that's your father that's

00:40:42.720 what's protecting you from and he's like i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm like okay again like she was right 0.99

00:40:47.740 she was right to keep her the father from him he's a penis monster i think there's there's two 0.97

00:40:52.360 parts of it one is like it's it's in the theme of everything that he's afraid of is actually 0.99

00:40:56.600 true and possibly worse so it's like it's awful that his dad is dead but what if it turns out

00:41:01.760 his dad's actually alive and he's really nice no no but he actually thought that in the third act 0.99

00:41:05.440 but what it is is your dad is actually alive but he's a horrible alien dick monster and it's like 0.82

00:41:09.460 but then so that's kind of within the theme it works but it i think they overplayed it i don't 0.95

00:41:14.900 think it was necessary that's one of the things i didn't really like about it i think that's where

00:41:18.140 it seemed like an Ari Asner movie where I'm like,

00:41:21.000 okay,

00:41:21.160 this is a,

00:41:22.200 it reminds you,

00:41:23.100 this is a horror movie.

00:41:23.960 It's made by a guy who made these movies where the ends are always crazy.

00:41:28.420 The ends are over the top and usually graphic.

00:41:31.860 Um,

00:41:32.260 and so I'm like,

00:41:32.780 this is,

00:41:33.220 that's what it reminded me like,

00:41:34.180 Oh, 0.99

00:41:34.300 maybe this is just a fucking horror movie, 0.99

00:41:36.260 which kind of means that like maybe I like horror movies. 0.99

00:41:41.020 I watch horror movies quite often,

00:41:42.500 but they tend not to be very deep.

00:41:45.960 um not in any like philosophical way like even the deep ones are just competent movies like

00:41:52.320 hereditary is just a competent movie it's not groundbreaking not really um it's just that

00:41:58.860 there's so many bad horror movies that it makes the pretty good ones seem oscar worthy so i think

00:42:06.340 the problem with horror movies is that once i'm informed that's a horror movie i almost stop

00:42:12.280 looking for the depth i think oh you're just trying to startle me he was trying to present 0.79

00:42:16.860 something that is sad and grotesque i'm not sure if the giant penis monster in the attic is really 0.91

00:42:24.100 a commentary on anything you know what i mean or am i wrong what do you think no i don't that's

00:42:29.520 what i'm kind of what i'm saying like i don't think it's this it's a specific commentary any

00:42:33.240 more than it's not anything outside of the film like it's just another thread of the of the story

00:42:39.860 of the entire film so that's why i think it wasn't it's not like it added anything but that's why i

00:42:45.140 love no matter where we go with this or the story i i think the attempt to tell like a single mother

00:42:51.660 horror movie is commendable and that the single mother was portrayed in a way where it's so she's

00:43:00.840 so passive aggressive it's delicious and she's so she thinks she just loves too much that's what

00:43:08.440 these women always think like i just love you more than anyone in the world i love you so much

00:43:13.180 and i think um i read an interview when like ari asner was describing the character and trying to

00:43:18.860 put it in a positive way it's like her her love is so great that it can move mountains and it's

00:43:23.460 like yes in a sense but it can move a mountain on top of him to keep him safe and that's essentially

00:43:29.820 what she does and so i'm like that's an interesting villain to have and that that eventually consumes

00:43:35.600 the sun like it ends with him dying and she creates an entire kangaroo court to persecute him

00:43:41.300 so that's like okay so deranged sort of love that eventually consumes the subject

00:43:47.660 the court i know we can't talk about this all night but i did there's something that i was

00:43:51.480 talking with with judas wife about um you know there's a part in act two where he was looking

00:43:56.920 at the security camera and he realizes that he can rewind obviously to see what happened earlier

00:44:01.720 in the house then he can fast forward and for a moment as you're scrolling and fast forward he

00:44:06.340 gets to see the whole future essentially it's just showing clips of the whole film right to

00:44:09.160 the end of the film which which you don't understand so there's that then there's this

00:44:12.380 thing that in the the final act he kills his mother but then shortly thereafter he's in front

00:44:17.860 of a huge court being judged as a bad son and his mother is still there it's like a giant kangaroo

00:44:23.520 court right but the point is his mother is there alive even though he just killed her so and okay

00:44:30.360 and here's my thing i and also he goes to that court he goes through he's on a boat and he sails

00:44:37.120 off the beach and he goes through this giant tunnel which i think is supposed to be heavily

00:44:42.780 implying some kind of vaginal womb transmission i don't sorry continue no no i mean that's that's

00:44:49.420 actually in line with what i'm saying so in the middle of the film when he's in his little

00:44:53.560 theatrical odyssey and one way of interpreting that is like him looking at how his life could

00:44:58.840 have been right but if you go through piece by piece because it's like a film within a film that

00:45:04.080 section of it is most maybe 20 minutes so it's like his the beginning of it his mother dies

00:45:09.140 he sets out he finds a village he has a family has sex with a woman three sons family lost in

00:45:15.640 a flood goes on a search for them searches forever and at the final days before he dies

00:45:19.400 he actually finds them again even though at the at the end of his life right before he finds them

00:45:24.300 he's living in total desolation and he's miserable okay if you take all of those pieces in order and

00:45:30.840 you look at the film as four acts and you look at them backwards it's actually the same thing

00:45:35.260 it's he's born and sorry because at the beginning of the theatrical part the reason he embarks on

00:45:41.220 this quest is not as a child it's essentially as an adult but because his mother has died

00:45:45.460 but at the end of the film the very end of the film he's he's essentially born through the

00:45:50.640 vaginal cave and also it's also worth mentioning that the very very beginning of the movie is him

00:45:55.600 being born through this point of view exactly exactly so the very the first moments of the

00:46:00.840 film are him being born the last moment of the film is almost him being born in reverse but it's

00:46:05.300 him being born then him being judged by his mother his mother hates him and then we keep moving

00:46:10.120 backwards now he kills his mother and now he sets out on a quest and now he winds up in the woods

00:46:14.680 where he finds a woman pregnant implied to essentially be his wife it's never discussed

00:46:18.740 and then a tragedy happens then he's in a house with his family and his daughter dies she's killed

00:46:24.420 she drinks paint and then he's on the run and then finally at the very end of it he winds up

00:46:30.400 and he's much older and he's in a horrible desolate place and he's confused and he's

00:46:34.360 searching like i think there's that i haven't parsed it all out but if you look at each of

00:46:37.560 these pieces the whole thing actually works in reverse it's the same story as the theater but

00:46:41.380 in reverse i'll tell you what if that's not genius that's genius's neighbor i'd never

00:46:47.460 considered that and i my fear is that you're putting more thought into this than the director

00:46:52.720 and writer did but i do think you're right i do think there is a symmetry there um i like that

00:47:01.800 i'm gonna go with that one even if it's even if he didn't intend to judas wins this round because

00:47:07.040 this guy also wrote midsummer which i was not thrilled by so that is our amazing meandering

00:47:14.140 review of beau is afraid i think i'd recommend it um and uh i think i'd watch it again yeah i would

00:47:22.180 too that's one i that's one i will revisit i will say i think of all the films i've seen this most

00:47:27.700 similar would have been synecdoche new york and i remember i will i i haven't watched that again

00:47:32.400 because the only strong feeling i had at the end of seeing that was i never want to watch this film

00:47:37.040 again like i liked it but i it's it was so it was emotionally painful to watch and i just don't ever

00:47:42.560 want to watch it again it was draining and like a lot of the charlie coffin movies they begin to

00:47:47.900 spiral at the end conceptually they get a bit too insane and metaphysical for their own good

00:47:54.720 like schenectady key new york ends like the movie's melting into itself by the end like

00:47:59.760 there's nothing left like there's nothing left to interpret it's just like a it's like a they

00:48:03.320 may as well just let the film fucking slide off the reel at the end it's crazy yeah like by the

00:48:07.760 end of that's connecting new york which for the record was one of my top five favorite movies for 0.92

00:48:13.180 the longest time just because i think maybe i like philip seymour hoffman that much i just found him

00:48:19.560 as one of the most brilliantly dark actors in existence which is why he was destined to die

00:48:26.900 from heroin and constipated um but uh it's it's a it's a mind-bending movie and then by the end of

00:48:36.260 it it's it starts off kind of funny like this movie but by the end of it you're like i guess

00:48:42.000 it's just about death and how everyone dies sad you know i mean and so with this movie with beau

00:48:47.860 is afraid like it feels more like a self-contained movie it's a bit more confident because there's

00:48:53.360 something about a movie that gets too wrapped up in its own sort of metaphysical nonsense that

00:49:01.120 doesn't seem confident like it's almost too nervous and insecure to sell it to tell its own

00:49:07.120 story and i kind of even got that with his latest one uh which is titled i'm thinking of ending

00:49:15.040 things which again starts off like he's a good writer he knows how to write characters but

00:49:19.740 by the end of it like there's a dance number like a silent dance or like this is just your

00:49:25.040 it's too pretentious and i mean pretentious in the truest sense of the word pretentious

00:49:30.000 as a shield pretentious as i don't i don't really know what i want to say anymore so i'm going to go 0.95

00:49:36.980 big and bombastic it's very gay and i mean that it's like ontologically gay it is a giant

00:49:44.900 explosion of glitter yeah um and i say this as as a guy who's seen all these movies probably the

00:49:50.520 most straightforward movie he wrote was like anomalisa which is the stop motion figure again

00:49:56.740 just as a movie about a sad man and i don't think beau is afraid is a movie about a sad man i think

00:50:02.860 it's about an insane mom yeah and and a man who actually he's made sad by the world but there's

00:50:11.220 flashes of him not being the sad that he's not mom wants to make him the thing is he's not even 0.95

00:50:16.760 that sad it's just situational like his life is fucking awful and in the brief moments where he

00:50:21.340 has any calm he's quite happy and friendly and easy to get along with it's just that his life 0.97

00:50:26.480 sucks that's a good point and i think that's why the movie you like this character morris because

00:50:31.320 he's not depressed he's not a sad sack he's not hard on himself and others and at various points

00:50:38.340 the movie he's very very cut maybe the only kind rational man in the world yeah he's the only guy

00:50:44.680 who's nice people but saying like does anyone it's almost like a different version of um arthur

00:50:50.560 fleck from joker like right is it just me or is it getting crazier out there and i want to scare

00:50:55.680 i forgot to mention there's one of the things that i took away from it as soon as i finished 0.84

00:50:59.060 watching it was like they cast this guy he's a a kind of shitty scrubby looking 40 year old he's 0.59

00:51:06.720 jewish but he's i mean he's a he's a visibly white guy but he's jewish but he's white right um if 0.99

00:51:12.320 he's white we can say damn as a bleeding role there's nothing he has no character flaws he is 0.77

00:51:19.260 i mean i totally relate to him like i don't know what else i would have done different in any of 0.97

00:51:23.840 these situations he's calm he's polite he's trying to resolve the problem as quickly as possible 0.90

00:51:28.200 while taking into account everybody else's issues he has a lot of other shit going on like 0.93

00:51:32.480 wow like that's a it's a great character and you expect with this guy it's like no he's going to 0.99

00:51:38.360 be pathetic and he's going to be a coward he's actually not a coward the things he's afraid of 0.96

00:51:42.800 are fucking real people are trying to kill him he's just kind of he's kind of meek but in a 1.00

00:51:47.680 situation where the world is trying to kill you actually trying to kill you you either become 0.99

00:51:53.440 this guy you become beau or you become conan the barbarian and there's not a lot of people

00:51:59.580 in reality that will become conan the barbarian right you're more likely to become a beau where 0.89

00:52:05.440 like you're living in a city where everyone's trying to fucking kill you and they are actually 0.73

00:52:09.520 yeah and you're like i'm gonna try and make myself invisible i'm gonna try and like get around 0.97

00:52:14.080 these like tattooed guys like one of the funniest scenes in the movie is him getting into his

00:52:18.440 apartment building he's got like a nemesis yeah like he's got to run screaming towards the front

00:52:24.440 door and it's like tattooed guy a guy with face tattoos and spacer earrings that just makes a

00:52:30.700 beeline for him it's just running full steam ahead trying to get him and yet you imagine

00:52:35.720 every single day he's got to run for his life to get into his apartment

00:52:39.440 and like again it's funny but also like you know there's more people who would probably be like

00:52:46.560 beau it's like you know when women imagine what they'd be like in the hunger game scenario 0.96

00:52:51.780 you would be would you be katniss with the bow and arrow right or would you be a prostitute

00:52:58.280 right right like he's not he's not a hero but i mean as a normal person he's not there's nothing 0.99

00:53:03.180 about him that you can you know you're gonna piss on him and say like oh well you should have done 0.93

00:53:07.420 better like no for it for the average fucking guy in that situation give him a pass like he's doing 0.94

00:53:12.220 pretty fucking good yeah we could all be a bit more like both i like them i want to watch it 0.95

00:53:17.760 again i think i'll watch it again and i'll watch it back to back of schenect in new york because 0.97

00:53:21.720 that's the kind of fucker i am so we got to move on to a segment that i'm very proud of i'm very 0.77

00:53:29.240 very excited to talk about um and we teased this out in the chat a little bit and i was going to 0.95

00:53:35.880 talked about last time i didn't get a chance i don't know how long i'm going to stay on this

00:53:40.020 topic but it's it's you know what it's it's an ugly look for me to even be talking about this 0.99

00:53:46.780 but it begs to be talked about it's bitch watch bitch watch 0.99

00:53:53.760 today on bitch watch it's lauren southern 1.00

00:54:01.680 subtitle Lauren Southern bitch watch so there was a video that dropped recently that she had 0.98

00:54:09.820 dropped in the same style as her previous video where she was recounting her time in the I guess 0.87

00:54:18.140 the alt right it would have been known at that time because Milo had made a hit piece about her

00:54:22.280 so she made this like I think it was like a two and a half hour video addressing it and we went

00:54:27.820 through we went through it line by line um really trying to investigate in to my mind where she was 0.83

00:54:36.660 making shit up because lauren southern is an interesting figure in that you know i don't want 0.89

00:54:44.820 to get pinned as a misogynist first of all you know i oh no oh now we say a little bit of this 0.99

00:54:54.020 a little bit of that we say things and put a little bit of stank on them however we're both 0.99

00:54:59.080 happily married men you know what i got one for you i actually love women bitch watch 0.99

00:55:06.520 yeah i like women as such i can speak fluid bitch 1.00

00:55:14.960 i know i know when i'm hearing a bitch spin me a yarn spin a web of lies 0.99

00:55:22.580 i can speak their language so you know because i love women i can spot at a devious hoe from 0.98

00:55:30.100 a mile away yeah i was gonna say some cases you don't even have to hear them talk you can

00:55:33.460 kind of just see it in their posture so and this is one of those cases i could tell it from her

00:55:38.160 haircut she she's always on the edge of getting bangs i know the always on the edge of getting 0.91

00:55:48.420 bangs bitch yeah she comes back from the salon and you're like girl you you just went in there 1.00

00:55:54.160 and you asked the hairdresser to give you the lying bitch and that's what she did you want 1.00

00:55:58.920 people to tell you that you should try bangs i got a whole psychological profile on this bitch 1.00

00:56:04.200 so we went we lied by line went through a previous video she drops another one 0.98

00:56:09.720 um out of the blue and the out of the blue part's important right because nothing demanded this

00:56:16.760 video she drops a video out of nowhere saying that she's getting a divorce and telling her side

00:56:22.920 of the story i have a i have a long story to tell one i've avoided for far too long avoided because

00:56:30.860 i hadn't yet processed it yet and i hadn't really understood the changes that i needed to make to

00:56:36.960 my life and my soul as a result of living it and i think i'm finally finally at a place where i'm

00:56:43.740 ready to tell you all she's doing this thing where she's got a very nice camera set up but

00:56:50.780 she's sitting in the woods which is annoying of course to everybody and she's just reading a

00:56:54.920 script why whatever and so she's like i'm just gonna get it all out there so right away there's

00:57:03.240 a problem there is no counter video there is actually nothing that she needs to get out in

00:57:10.320 front of there's no other narrative that's dropping it's we actually don't even know she's

00:57:15.360 getting a divorce from her husband we don't really know who the husband is he has not released a

00:57:19.700 video he's not given an interview there was no reason for her to make this video after the video

00:57:25.400 he sent like a one page letter like a memo just addressing the fact that there was a video just

00:57:33.180 saying this is retarded you'll hear from my lawyer essentially is all it was oh he did i didn't see

00:57:38.680 no no yeah he did he did he sent is literally like two paragraphs written and signed and that's

00:57:44.000 all it was that's all that's all there has been from this guy before or after so all you would 0.90

00:57:48.520 need to do is write a letter saying this is the shit i was dealing with yeah that's that's kind 0.98

00:57:53.560 of what it was actually so yeah fuck we should pull that up just one line you get it now 0.99

00:57:58.960 but really so she's doing her whole thing and i'm i'm highly attuned to her little 0.95

00:58:08.500 manipulative turns of phrase and there's a few things that led into this because certain red

00:58:14.700 flags that lauren southern would send up so one big one for me was that even at the time when she

00:58:22.860 was a married woman she was gravitating closer and closer to i don't know what to name them but 0.98

00:58:29.320 so i'll just describe them as a heading it's uh you know busted ex-shit lib bitch sector 0.98

00:58:38.360 right i'm talking your chrissy mars i'm talking your britney ventes there's a whole cluster 0.98

00:58:43.560 of these like aging anti-cancel culture but otherwise 100 feminist type women right yeah

00:58:52.900 and they've they've only become more feminist the older they've gotten and they all kind of

00:58:57.940 hang out together and wear gaudy makeup and just dish and they're on streams and it's always that

00:59:05.760 seemed like a strange sector for a happily married woman to try and ingratiate herself with

00:59:11.160 why is this happily married woman trying to become for all intents and purposes a busted hoe

00:59:17.880 well and the reason is that Lauren Southern is now and always has been a busted hoe

00:59:23.400 now and this was a big part of the various exposés that have come at her there's been

00:59:29.360 rumors that have been dog and lauren southern her entire career and she's contested these rumors but

00:59:34.980 i have no reason to believe that they're false because there's been so many of them in such

00:59:38.100 detail about how she's essentially slept her way into her career and slept away not as you know

00:59:44.680 she slept with ezra levant but slept with you know editors and writers or just in people in

00:59:52.540 the scene who could add her some clever which is a lot sadder really it would actually be better 0.99

00:59:58.500 if you just fucked pierre polyev or something like one it's fuck one powerful guy instead of 0.99

01:00:07.220 75 nobodies she that's how and she's fucked her way internationally across the globe 0.99

01:00:14.160 that's the rumor i've got no evidence but it is true highly plausible highly highly 1.00

01:00:22.120 highly correct highly accurate in the percentile of 100 if you doubt this you are an asshole 0.98

01:00:32.000 so so she's she's always been that and the rumor is and i got another way to substantiate this but 0.99

01:00:38.740 the rumor is that the husband divorced her because she cheated on him with who who knows

01:00:45.920 now we can speculate we would never do that we're not the type of show that traffics and nasty 0.99

01:00:53.600 speculation having said that the word on the street is that she fucked destiny 0.97

01:01:00.580 and it's true that's why the word is on the street it's because it happened it's 100 true 0.98

01:01:08.660 you heard it she slept with liberalism's destiny who is three and a half feet tall

01:01:16.160 for what it's worth i let me just say this he's in a wheelchair he's in a wheelchair

01:01:21.460 can you imagine being as tall as a guy in a wheelchair

01:01:24.720 i don't know how i don't know how to phrase this i'm just gonna say it i think if you're

01:01:33.240 short enough where a man in a wheelchair

01:01:35.180 looks down on you.

01:01:37.100 That's a bad place to be.

01:01:40.040 I think it's kind

01:01:41.320 of over. Can you imagine being

01:01:43.180 like a dwarf and a guy in a wheelchair

01:01:45.020 feels superior to you, calls you a 0.63

01:01:47.240 manlet?

01:01:49.060 This guy, he ain't got no

01:01:51.240 legs. Yeah, that's

01:01:53.280 true. His legs are free,

01:01:55.400 buddy. You can just take them.

01:01:59.600 But here's the thing. People are saying

01:02:01.320 that's insane why would she sleep with destiny here's my theory that destiny as you know he's

01:02:07.980 got blue hair and this and that he actually does seem like kind of a chill guy he actually does

01:02:12.680 seem like he might be fun to hang out with and above all else he's one of these guys in like a

01:02:17.580 polyamorous relationship it's one of these sex guys you hear about but i he i want to say to

01:02:25.300 people i use destiny as an example he just seems to be a guy who shoots his shot he's just a guy 0.99

01:02:30.640 who will send a text message out that says you up you want to fuck it really is that easy and for 0.99

01:02:38.380 all these these guys on our side who can't get in like this guy can do it all you gotta do is send 1.00

01:02:43.260 it just shoot your shot and sometimes it's also not unrelated to the fact that he's a public figure 0.98

01:02:48.720 i mean i don't think most guys looking like a goddamn basement troll like destiny can just 0.99

01:02:53.820 shoot a you up text and get laid i think it's also because he's worth like 50 million dollars 0.90

01:02:58.340 perhaps but also that also you'd be surprised i i did very very well we're talking about the

01:03:06.820 loosest of all horrors lauren southern then yes i guess it would work in my prime i did very very 0.99

01:03:12.920 well broke as fucking smelling like cat piss and cigarettes you did you did and i heard it all 0.99

01:03:17.980 through the thin thin walls so yeah sometimes sometimes you just you gotta be you gotta be 0.99

01:03:23.860 insanely abrasive

01:03:25.640 and it works

01:03:27.000 here's what they don't tell you 0.99

01:03:29.540 in pussy school 0.98

01:03:30.900 sometimes you just gotta pop out 0.99

01:03:34.020 at him

01:03:34.460 sometimes you just gotta she looks inside

01:03:38.020 her pants and you're there

01:03:39.700 woo

01:03:40.300 she goes in the mirror looks inside her own 1.00

01:03:44.060 pussy there you are looking out back at her 1.00

01:03:46.180 woo 1.00

01:03:46.940 they don't teach 0.99

01:03:50.060 you that at pussy school 0.99

01:03:51.500 yep yep 0.99

01:03:53.000 so anyway so is what lends to this theory well he he went to he streamed with her he's obsessed

01:04:00.280 with her the rumor is that he was going to leave his wife forlorn southern it was this whole thing

01:04:05.120 whole affair who knows if it's true i don't know but i'm telling everyone that it is true

01:04:10.880 because why not there are so few pleasures in life why not believe insane lies why not believe

01:04:18.900 funny fictions because if you believe a thing long enough it just does become true especially when

01:04:26.100 whether the thing is true or false the telling of the story damages the reputation of people

01:04:33.100 that you never liked to begin with right so that's cool i like that you have that power

01:04:38.160 faith is power yeah so just back to the video so that's the story about why she got divorced but

01:04:44.980 her story the one that she's telling it's very much a series of girl lies and this is back to

01:04:53.680 my point i know a girl lie when i hear it a girl lie is a lie that is is designed to sound humble

01:05:01.800 but it really just bigs them up it makes so she her telling and we never really met this guy

01:05:07.920 the rumor is that he's like swarthy he's half filipino i can't you know we could go down that

01:05:14.500 road i'm not going to go down that road we don't know for sure but what seems to be certain according

01:05:19.820 to her at least is that he was in every sense of the word a federal agent he's australian i believe

01:05:27.960 he's australian and he was he worked for the government and he was according to her her words

01:05:33.720 were calling him like a james bond type figure right there i hear a girl lie because that's a

01:05:40.740 a girl lies to make herself seem better i married james bond right it can't just be that he was just

01:05:46.820 this like lower level intelligence guy that wouldn't be crazy he's got to be a globe-trotting

01:05:51.380 super spy according to her not according to him according to her and also according to her that

01:05:57.220 he left his career because he loved her so much we discussed the possibility that he might either

01:06:04.580 lose his job or forfeit any chance at advancement if he were to marry me due to my activism

01:06:09.060 him. In fact, that and the massive distance between us were two of the main reasons for me

01:06:14.540 being apprehensive about dating him in the first place. I didn't want to live in Australia or

01:06:19.020 complicate his life's work for that matter, and I told him so very clearly. And yet he claimed to

01:06:24.320 care so deeply, so much for me, that he was willing to switch careers if he had to. He would move to

01:06:30.180 Canada at the drop of a hat to be with me. And, you know, that was one of those head over heels

01:06:35.380 romantic moments that i think every girl wants to hear i i get a whiff of a girl lie there

01:06:41.920 i don't know where it is just somewhere in there that this guy was a international super spy james

01:06:47.320 bond type who left his life because she was just so enticing and you know the the the perfect the

01:06:54.220 the best fiction that every girl wants i don't care what race you are man ever race a girl's

01:06:59.980 relationship man leaves relationship because woman loves him just too much where have we heard that 0.99

01:07:06.220 before it's fucking it's bo is afraid yes that's okay i don't know what part there is a lie 0.99

01:07:13.880 lurking in there somewhere and you need to read between the lines and get the stuff 0.99

01:07:18.480 really step back and think of it again as you're watching this video step back and remember there

01:07:24.740 was no reason for this to exist the entire video was her explaining her divorce explaining her

01:07:31.420 side by her explaining her side it can only throw him under the bus and then you must ask why is she

01:07:38.780 trying to throw him under the bus and what is she hiding because if it were me heaven forbid i ever

01:07:44.880 get divorced i don't want to make up like the only way i would make a spectacle out of it was if the

01:07:50.960 spectacle was visited upon me because if for some reason my ex-spouse was telling a bunch of tall

01:07:56.840 tales that i needed to address but like i wouldn't start the conversation that sounds horrific 0.98

01:08:00.740 you know i mean like it's no one wants to talk about their fucking divorce and bring 0.96

01:08:05.100 the world into that especially especially if you have a kid which he does and she brings that up 0.97

01:08:13.700 quite a bit um so over the course and also the whole point like making it public the fact that

01:08:20.000 the husband is still moderately like anonymous like he's not super public you know what i mean

01:08:27.420 so like she's a public figure so she can easily go out and spread all this shit around and the 0.78

01:08:32.120 only way he can really defend himself is by doxing himself so exactly that's the thing and i think 0.87

01:08:38.140 that she knows that oh yeah um and also the idea is that the reason one of the main reasons she

01:08:44.980 said that her husband had left her was because having left his career he tried to find a job

01:08:52.420 and move to canada with her and he couldn't find a job and she was supporting him because she was

01:08:57.700 such a not only was she taking care of the kid not only was she taking care of him but she was

01:09:02.260 also supporting him financially after my husband said he did not want me to return to australia

01:09:08.020 and that he wanted nothing to do with me anymore my parents took me and my son in for nearly seven

01:09:13.060 months when i got back home as i mentioned earlier i spent the last of the money i had in the bank

01:09:17.780 supporting our marriage and i never got child support alimony or anything like that and i

01:09:24.080 didn't have anywhere to live if my family didn't take me in to this day the only finances transferred

01:09:30.140 has been from me to my ex despite me earning less uh something about that doesn't sound right to me

01:09:36.640 but whatever yeah like she had all this huge amount of savings to sit on um which runs counter 0.99

01:09:45.060 to her story that she was always poor whatever just she gets wrapped up in her own fucking 0.99

01:09:49.560 bullshit but then she says that he missed his life so much that he had to go back to it he had 1.00

01:09:54.380 to rejoin whatever intelligence agency that he he had just left um and again if you think about 0.99

01:10:02.020 that for a second you realize well that doesn't make sense like a would they allow him back b

01:10:07.880 she had said that his uh career would have been handicapped by him being married to her because

01:10:13.300 she was uh again kind of a girl lie here such a domestic threat like everyone was obsessed with

01:10:21.000 lauren southern but as i was soon to learn it was especially vital to know the answer in my case

01:10:27.020 because being married to me has its own unique challenges the main one being i am super super

01:10:34.300 controversial and for someone with a respectable job like my husband had that's a big problem

01:10:39.900 but if that were true he still has a kid with her like he's still not going back to that career

01:10:45.980 he's still his his his lack of judgment has been proven like there's no way he's climbing the

01:10:52.920 ranks by like oh yeah you if if we think lauren southern is some kind of far-right terrorist

01:10:59.660 then you marrying her has already tanked your cred there's no way back so something's wrong

01:11:04.880 here something something about this doesn't make sense some kind of lie either you're lying about

01:11:10.020 his job or you're lying about the reason he left or like something in there doesn't make sense

01:11:14.340 right yeah no absolutely absolutely also another thing that i learned over the course of the video

01:11:21.840 as you're watching it this video gets more and more insane and by the end of it i was trying to

01:11:27.920 keep track because really you you all it's like climbing a mountain once you're once you're dealing

01:11:32.660 with someone who lies like they breathe like this it's like climbing a mountain says you got to kind

01:11:37.780 of leave your stakes as you're climbing leave a pathway going up so you can always keep your

01:11:43.480 bearings and always keep a way back down so always remember that according to her she did

01:11:51.360 absolutely nothing in this divorce. She, over the course of the video, she blames her husband,

01:11:56.300 she blames the right, she blames society, she blames marriage itself. Even if you're lucky

01:12:02.960 enough to have parents still together, which gives you a leg up in perspective,

01:12:07.440 our parents' dating experiences and social pressures were entirely different from our

01:12:12.340 current times. Meaning that when people like me and many others inevitably fail to live up to a

01:12:18.140 PR campaign, it can feel like we are left in the dust, with nothing to go to but the modern

01:12:23.760 approach. A worldview that not only accepts brokenness, but encourages brokenness as a

01:12:28.940 virtue at times. And while acceptance can be very comforting in a cold world, and I think we have a

01:12:35.260 lot to learn from that, gone too far can also lead to a lack of self-reflection and a deepening of

01:12:40.500 one's brokenness. I long for a day where those who claim to want to save civilization both

01:12:47.000 acknowledge and love the broken while encouraging self-reflection and structure unfortunately you

01:12:53.500 rarely find both in one ideological camp and at no point did she ever say that she did anything

01:13:01.140 to contribute to the divorce yep now for those who have been through a divorce who have the

01:13:06.620 soberness of thought afterwards to really look at it you would say you know what no divorce is

01:13:12.520 actually one-sided if we're being especially when kids are involved like it's a conflict it's a

01:13:16.600 mess it's complicated it's terrible it's draining and you look back you're like you know what maybe

01:13:22.380 i did some things to contribute to this but according to her she was faultless completely

01:13:27.060 and the only fault lauren southern admits to is being too good of a wife so that's a that's a girl

01:13:34.300 lie in fairness to her she did also say i was young and naive bright-eyed and bushy-tailed

01:13:40.440 when did she marry him by the way what because she's like you know she's only been married for

01:13:45.620 a few years she married him when she became irrelevant it wasn't the other way around

01:13:50.460 she's in her 30s now like she would have married him at like 27 or something no i thought she's

01:13:55.860 27 now isn't she let's figure she's in her she's in her late 20s she's not she's not as old as us 0.98

01:14:00.800 she's not an old an old old bitch she's 28 years old so she's got about 15 pounds of force against 0.97

01:14:10.280 the back of her head into the wall but she has not crushed her skull into the wall yet but she's 0.99

01:14:15.060 almost there she's got like phantom plastic surgery i'm not saying she got plastic surgery

01:14:20.640 but something happened i think she had plastic surgery in the rebel days and then everybody's 0.98

01:14:27.760 kind of accepted that's what her fucking face looks like but her face is weird because really 0.97

01:14:32.880 like never trust anyone who's had plastic surgery i think that's fair never never of course of course 0.99

01:14:38.700 i'm just trying to look here to see when she uh married her so she quit at 2019 0.96

01:14:46.220 right so right years ago right around the time when everybody stopped giving a fuck about her

01:14:52.800 and her career was she married at 24 right so that's not that it's like she married at 0.97

01:14:58.340 fucking 17 or 18 she married at like a reasonable enough age some people a lot of people would say 0.97

01:15:05.700 that's a great age to get married at yeah you've been around the scene you fucked every big name 1.00

01:15:11.300 and now it's time to settle down with a beta cuck and you fucked and sucked your way to the middle 1.00

01:15:17.260 fucking your way to the middle like yeah this is a classic it's true um and there's a few things 1.00

01:15:26.480 that she says in the video that were again red flags that proved to me that she wrote it um like 0.98

01:15:34.020 At one point she was saying how she's like retelling her story as if it's a narrative and saying she was in Australia during COVID and how much trauma she has from that.

01:15:46.360 How she's blocked her own memories out during that period, which is a bit dramatic, frankly.

01:15:52.520 I was trapped alone in Australia with no family or friends and a husband who resented me.

01:15:58.720 the low point of this all was probably lockdown which for me was so traumatic that i have repressed

01:16:04.760 large chunks of my memory and she's like i remember going onto the street and there's no

01:16:09.880 one out there except for a couple of kangaroos and i said nope no that didn't happen let's just

01:16:15.900 say you were that maybe you're trying to tell a joke you just do it badly you weren't in australia

01:16:21.020 and you walked outside and a couple of kangaroos went by like a tumbleweed like a looney tune scene 0.99

01:16:27.400 your weird asian husband is a federal agent you probably live in fucking melbourne or sydney like 1.00

01:16:33.240 fuck off you're you're not in the outback it's not mad max like what the fuck i just i walked 1.00

01:16:40.280 out and i tripped over a koala bear and it's like no you didn't i said out loud the mouth full of 1.00

01:16:48.280 chips i said no you didn't and then she did this one thing where she's about to say how the tables

01:16:55.840 have turned and said she said how the turntables so let's get the most awkward part of this video

01:17:03.200 out of the way yes i know i am the girl who basically was the poster child for marriage

01:17:09.440 and traditionalism telling everyone if they didn't follow the perfect trad guide that i had figured

01:17:15.040 out at 20 years old they'd grow up to be alone or single mothers the horror i was the queen of the

01:17:23.040 pick me's until i got picked oh boy how the turntables woman alert and i put my fist through

01:17:32.960 my other fist wait what like how just like she's doing a joke like a girl joke like it said how

01:17:39.680 oh how the tables turned oh how the turntables i i'm getting here's visibly angry saying it right

01:17:45.520 now here's the thing this is the reason that she was irrelevant in like 2018 and 2019 because if 0.95

01:17:51.360 If you don't have fat old Jews like Ezra Levant putting her in front of everybody, she's not that intelligent. 0.97

01:17:56.960 She's not funny. 0.99

01:17:58.120 She's not even that pretty. 1.00

01:17:59.480 She just is dumb enough to ruin her life by being a whore around the scene. 1.00

01:18:06.160 And so if you let her go out rudderless and have her own YouTube channel, this is what's going to happen every fucking time. 1.00

01:18:14.700 It's a train wreck. 0.99

01:18:15.840 It's been a train wreck for a long time.

01:18:17.220 But anyways, it's just that's the perfect example of it. 0.98

01:18:20.100 that she would do some dumb fucking joke like that in what is meant to be one of two videos in five 0.98

01:18:26.100 years to try to reboot her career it's just a riot man and then i guess what really got me was all of 0.99

01:18:31.940 the comments saying how brave she was and all like her friends the britney ventis of the world saying

01:18:37.540 like i'm so proud of her taking a stand like this because apparently the ex-husband left her divorced

01:18:45.700 her and left the kid with her and didn't want to have parental rights which made me think hmm 1.00

01:18:51.540 what's that about see to hear her tell it he was he just turned into the biggest asshole in the 0.99

01:18:58.360 world randomly or what what what would cause a father an otherwise upstanding guy from the looks 0.99

01:19:06.820 of it i mean he's employable he's not a fucking rapper to not want to have anything to do with 0.94

01:19:12.680 the kid huh hmm hmm hmm all i'm saying is hmm you can't charge me for saying hmm 0.95

01:19:24.320 wouldn't it be great though if it was actually spencer's kid 0.99

01:19:30.440 wouldn't that be the best fucking thing ever ah spencer 1.00

01:19:35.080 spencer and his latent sperm 0.99

01:19:39.820 it's spencer's sperm is like him it hangs around in the corner for like way too long then it 0.70

01:19:47.660 springs up again um but yeah so and then i guess the reason i took such an exception to this video

01:19:55.840 was as the movie progresses we get to the real meat of what she's trying to do which is take a

01:20:02.760 stand against marriage the entire message of her video by the end of it was her saying

01:20:08.140 that she got married too early she calls herself the ultimate pick me which is a thing a lot of

01:20:16.680 guys don't know that that's the thing girls say to each other like you're a pick me because you

01:20:20.800 want guys to pick you and say lauren you're by the way you're still a pick me because you're 0.99

01:20:25.840 making this this video apropos of nothing yeah um just looking for a different type of dick right 1.00

01:20:31.140 now. But she was saying that there's a lot of her words were there's a lot of women like me 0.99

01:20:38.920 who are miserable in their marriages and are just staying in their marriages because they think

01:20:44.540 they have trad values. In fact I would say one of the biggest secrets on the political right

01:20:50.660 is just how many people have had their relationships fall to bits but will never

01:20:55.980 talk about it. Most of my friends or acquaintances who lean politically right are getting into

01:21:00.960 marriage problems, including people in the political sphere that are much smarter than me

01:21:05.300 and will never do what I'm doing talking about it publicly. But it's not just them. It's also

01:21:10.520 people with no public profile at all who married their childhood sweethearts and have been married

01:21:14.620 for a decade. Many of them hardcore Christians who, unlike me, checked all the boxes in the

01:21:19.220 playbook of traditional life. And yet most people I know are facing cataclysmic marriage problems

01:21:25.340 that none of them could have predicted. Not that it's exclusive to the right, of course. Not at

01:21:30.060 all. I've had heartbreaking numbers of friends sobbing to me on the phone about their relationships

01:21:34.880 falling apart from progressives to non-political to far-right, and yet all of them share one thing

01:21:41.460 in common. Their lives came apart at the seams, unexpectedly, in the same way that mine did.

01:21:47.660 Me, Lauren Southern, I got married because I thought that was the trad thing to do,

01:21:52.360 get married young, have a big family. All those trad values were wrong. Not only was I wrong to

01:21:58.760 get married young i think there's more women like me who should divorce their husbands that's what 0.98

01:22:04.820 she fucking said she the purpose of this video was to convince more women to become divorced like her 0.98

01:22:12.880 like i'm not joking like that is the purpose which is very much again a busted hoe thing to do this 0.99

01:22:21.380 is why i by the end of it i'm convinced she's just a busted hoe because a busted hoe wants all of her 0.99

01:22:27.540 married friends become single again like them it's a crap it's a crab bucket mentality yes yes 0.98

01:22:33.300 correct and aside from being a busted hoe the evidence that she's controlled off is now stacked 0.98

01:22:37.680 heavily against her just being just just only she's obviously a busted hoe but i mean if you

01:22:45.020 look back at her history over the past 10 years there's so much of it adds up to her being 0.99

01:22:49.800 such a fucking 0.99

01:22:51.740 off like she's just she's 1.00

01:22:53.840 so she's so so damaging

01:22:55.860 let me just say this also

01:22:57.560 a few people in the comments

01:23:00.040 of the videos took the

01:23:01.740 of course wrongest

01:23:03.640 version of the truth and said

01:23:05.400 you know there's one thing you learn from this

01:23:07.840 never trust a fed

01:23:09.420 I just want to say if you marry

01:23:12.140 if you marry a fed you are a fed

01:23:14.280 like just

01:23:15.780 legally you actually

01:23:18.240 are but and i feel bad it's like we know we know guys we have we have friends we have i i have

01:23:23.800 family members who not not direct family members but i have like i'm uh people married into my

01:23:29.520 family who work for the federal government and i resent them for it and i don't hate them i mean 0.95

01:23:33.960 i love them they're my family but um like you can't you can't fucking trust them man like i 0.94

01:23:38.660 can't talk to these people you know and you shouldn't and you shouldn't ever consciously 0.99

01:23:42.720 make a decision willingly to go and form relationships with these fucking people come 0.99

01:23:46.660 on well it's like if you marry someone you become in the eyes of the law and also the eyes of the 1.00

01:23:52.920 church whatever the church might be i'm pretty sure every religion of the world treats it the

01:23:57.120 same way you become the same person right you're a unit so if you're like the wife of a military

01:24:03.360 person you're a military wife you are they'll treat you like you're part of the military like

01:24:07.400 everyone does this so it's like lauren southern you effectively were a fed so let's not forget

01:24:14.600 that it's not like you you married a fed and then now you've walked away from it you you're more of

01:24:21.440 a fed now than ever before and you're already pretty much a fed according to everyone else

01:24:26.280 because again if enough people treat you like a fed you pretty much are functionally you know

01:24:30.840 whatever as ppp would say it's just beyond but yeah that's where lauren southern's video ends

01:24:40.680 and that's what made it so egregious is that she's lecturing the right and conservatives

01:24:45.640 generally but she mentions the right that everyone has the wrong idea about marriage that

01:24:49.240 no one should try and get married and that i don't know it was bizarre the way she was ending it she's

01:24:55.720 like everyone's got the wrong idea about traditional values so she's like anti-tradition which 0.99

01:24:59.700 if if you don't have that then what the fuck are you like what is this bit who bitch this is 0.95

01:25:05.920 I mean, really, telling a generation made up of increasing numbers of children of divorce that the only parent, the single parent who stayed to raise them and gave them some semblance of what love and responsibility is, is the thing that's ruining Western civilization, is not a strategy. 0.99

01:25:24.640 Telling women and men who face divorce, separation, or failure to ever marry in the first place, that they are worthless failures now, is not a strategy.

01:25:32.520 what are you doing here then and what is this type of you all become the same type of like

01:25:40.540 burned out but she's not right wing anymore right i mean the previous video was like a 0.99

01:25:44.280 right wing breakup where she's like center center left feminist bitch now isn't she 0.97

01:25:50.400 is like it's like she's friends with britney venti right well it's like on every uncoupled 0.99

01:25:58.100 woman is a feminist that's it just seems obvious to me like there's unless if you're married or

01:26:03.840 whatever it's like how many of these trad girls and this has been going around there's no such

01:26:09.100 thing as a single trad woman there's no such thing yeah so i don't know you don't look for 0.86

01:26:14.020 look for like an art bitch look look for like a bookworm oh well yeah right if that's there's

01:26:19.020 it's not like it's you know the blank canvases it is to some extent but like and i was saying 0.96

01:26:25.640 this in the in the chat and i was getting some positive feedback that women should not unironically

01:26:31.160 should never be in in leadership roles in media in politics whatever it might be right and this is

01:26:37.940 this is part of it like you said single single women women are capable of great things but women

01:26:43.300 and whether it's usually it's a husband you need somebody to to bounce it off of it's just it's not

01:26:48.320 a diss on women it's just the way women work right so if you have women and they're just in a group

01:26:55.160 of other women and they're spiraling it's always always always bad so if you have all these women 0.97

01:27:00.260 and they're like oh yeah we're like a trad women group nope nope red flag get the fuck out of 0.99

01:27:04.700 there man it's not it's not a real thing you what type of woman i hear people are having great luck 0.99

01:27:10.540 with hippies hippie girls i think i know who you're talking about but yeah i've heard that i've

01:27:17.540 known a few i know a few guys who are like you know i found this one because it checks a lot of

01:27:21.440 the boxes that you wouldn't think it's like they tend to even though they won't say they're

01:27:26.000 traditional but they tend to be close to nature they usually they usually seem to come from good

01:27:31.200 enough families which is a big thing you want i think there's a fact like women aren't women are

01:27:36.360 different from men women aren't completely they aren't a different species some things like core 0.85

01:27:41.360 foundational principles like obviously fucking language right women carry with them so and i

01:27:46.900 that's one of the things like just an understanding of and a connection to nature and the environment 0.94

01:27:52.380 is something that you usually I think you get from quite a young age usually from your upbringing

01:27:57.080 and that's something you carry with you so I mean that isn't something that you can necessarily

01:28:01.980 instill in them later in life but like we're talking about politics especially these girls

01:28:07.420 that come in like they're 25 and they slept around for a bit like Lauren Southern and they're like oh

01:28:11.720 yeah i'm right wing now and you know what i say hippies because i'm not confident in my ability

01:28:20.260 to really single out a good country girl because there's country girls like farm girls are good

01:28:28.000 but i'm not sure i can tell the difference between a farm girl and a ranch girl that's not good

01:28:32.880 because one of these girls is slurping her way across the town one of these girls is like you

01:28:38.740 know just a bit too showed very slutty so i don't add a distance at first blush i don't know how i

01:28:44.920 can tell the difference because that's the one you go for i'll go for a country girl there's a lot of 0.99

01:28:48.840 really slutty country girls possibly possibly the sluttiest girls in america are country girls 0.98

01:28:56.180 really you might i think not on average but in terms of peak sluttiness i think the sluttiest 0.99

01:29:03.520 country girl is sluttier than the sluttiest urban girl i'm gonna stake a claim in that right now

01:29:09.520 money on the that'd be a weird one i would read that study someone's someone's gotta have that 0.82

01:29:17.000 study i don't have any data to back that up it's just i feel it in my guts feel it in my blood i 0.79

01:29:24.200 feel it in my balls so anyway that's what i just wanted to address lauren so that i i detect

01:29:31.060 a lot of subtext of lies in there and i think she's created these lies to take aim at the right 0.95

01:29:39.200 while also be trying to be on the right and you know maybe here's one for you maybe good for her 0.97

01:29:45.760 because what the fuck is the right anyway fair you know if you if you want to know the state 1.00

01:29:52.220 of a ship look at the rats do i see rats leaving the right she's a fucking rat where's she going 1.00

01:30:00.320 she's trying to jump on the next penis shaped ship she could find was you know that's an 1.00

01:30:06.320 interesting me for for being on a penis shaped ship to begin with but joking aside we're coming 0.98

01:30:11.040 back around to the the sober topic that we started on kind of um like where where are we 0.94

01:30:19.620 and i'm thinking is it possible that in some way 2016 was uh like like the like the evangelical

01:30:27.980 revival of the 90s that suddenly it's fun and exciting for young people to jump on board

01:30:35.960 and that doesn't i mean you have a swell in numbers temporarily but that doesn't necessarily

01:30:40.460 mean you've got a swell in quality in fact it's usually quite the opposite um so at some point

01:30:45.760 that's got a uh it's got a slow off slough how do you say the s-l-o-u-g-h slow slot like dead

01:30:53.280 flesh we're gonna take heat for that for not i'm gonna say slow let's say every version of the word

01:30:59.700 sloth if it was with a p it'd be plow so i'm changing my mind it's slough we're gonna say

01:31:04.660 slog let's say slog with a gh because it's canadian intentional mispronunciation we're

01:31:10.340 with that slug so you're gonna slog off the dead flesh of the joiners the perennial zoomer joiners 0.97

01:31:17.100 and people like i would say spencer i don't know where the fuck he came from but i never heard of 0.97

01:31:21.760 him before 2016 so he's one of them right lauren southern another great name um people you know 0.51

01:31:27.240 boomers and gen x guys who've been around here forever god bless you what it's not looking very

01:31:31.440 good for blondes it's not looking good it never has been though except no it hasn't you see we're

01:31:38.580 doing a reverse arianism right now you see a blonde blue-eyed person you throw him right in 1.00

01:31:43.260 the wood chipper nothing but trouble you piece of shit you fucking goddamn fucker listen fuckhead 1.00

01:31:49.360 you have fucking crossed the line get that through your goddamn fucking head stop pushing 1.00

01:31:55.120 your shit this is can you know you know you know this isn't germany can i tell you this 1.00

01:32:00.440 you know who wasn't blonde hitler that's damn right or jesus there you go what more or jesus 1.00

01:32:08.720 or jesus the the two guys yeah or um uh the two best guys were not blonde by the way and actually

01:32:17.620 or or christian bale in american psycho yeah the trifecta christian bale ain't been blonde his

01:32:23.980 entire dang life he's been bald before he's been blonde not he was think of it like okay so here's

01:32:29.780 the theory look at the character acting that that man has gone through the changes to his body fit 0.99

01:32:35.500 fat thin yes huge yes smart angry he's just the guy's a fucking machine always with that beautiful 0.99

01:32:43.320 slick black hair you know what do people gotta say that what did he mean by that 0.99

01:32:47.880 he's first of all a lot of people do agree with me when i say he is literally me

01:32:54.040 yes but then also what does he mean by that what did i mean by that

01:32:58.160 what did he mean what did he mean by being literally me huh

01:33:03.340 what what what did he mean by being literally me

01:33:07.020 this is a great episode i'm sorry everybody i don't know why but i just feel like every

01:33:23.200 segment we've done has gone on too long yeah this is a this is a real goofball of a of an

01:33:28.920 episode so it's all right i i promised to do bitch watch i just maybe i got too attached to

01:33:35.160 a name bitch watch we'll do some serious political takes on the next well i do have i do have one to

01:33:48.940 talk about now all right um and this is building this one is going to be difficult i'm worried

01:33:56.400 that i'm going to fumble it because the book that i want to cover is so dense and so interesting and

01:34:04.060 so insightful that i could talk about it for like two episodes i'm trying to summarize the most

01:34:10.600 important parts but it's a very very big topic but i kind of set the stage in the previous episode

01:34:16.320 with heartland theory so people want to know a bit more about you know harold mckinder's

01:34:21.720 heartland theory listen to that thus the last statement in mckinder's triad

01:34:28.020 who rules the world island commands the world

01:34:31.200 But how to control the World Island in the first place?

01:34:38.260 The thesis divides the supercontinent into two regions, the Inner Crescent or Rimlands

01:34:43.660 and the Heartland.

01:34:45.840 The Rimlands, consisting of Arabia, Western Europe, India and East Asia, make up only

01:34:51.320 one-fifth of the World Island's area but house four-fifths of its population.

01:34:56.680 Using Mackinder's earlier logic, this region ought to be the place from which to attempt

01:35:00.780 world island domination this book it's titled the russian empire and the world 1700 to 1917

01:35:10.540 but it actually goes back to 1600 in the book uh it's subtitled the geopolitics of expansion and

01:35:17.220 containment by john p ladon so it's a history book that looks at russian imperialism from the 1700s

01:35:27.400 during the what's called the russian imperialist period for those few centuries and it shows how

01:35:34.040 the the various points that russia tried to expand into the space around it and the steps

01:35:40.840 that were taking to contain russian expansion leading right up to world war one so this book

01:35:46.320 pretty much ends right when world war one begins and positions that as really the shattering of

01:35:52.240 the uh russian empire at the time prior to the soviet union but the russian empire that we used

01:35:58.020 to know it so um because it takes such a large scope there's gonna be some parts that we kind

01:36:04.700 of gloss over i'm going to try and deal with the broad strokes here about the relationship that

01:36:09.300 russia had to the as the heartland to the pivot area and to the frontier areas and what various

01:36:16.500 countries did to contain russia which was positioned to take over the entire eurasian

01:36:22.980 continent and the story here is that it came kind of close that it was only really on a couple of

01:36:31.200 times where that where germany and uh britain really pushed back but if there was a time where

01:36:37.480 russia was getting pretty far it couldn't get that far into china for example but it was getting

01:36:44.520 there and some would argue that we're still dealing with that power dynamic right now now

01:36:51.600 there are some people just at the outset that don't subscribe to the heartland theory of

01:36:57.100 geopolitics which is fine i'm not saying it's the be all end all because some people think this

01:37:01.780 this explains all power dynamics in the world i don't think so but i do think there's something

01:37:06.660 to be said about russia's unique position on the eurasian landmass the importance of that landmass

01:37:14.240 and you know if you don't think it's important it seems that america thinks it's important it

01:37:21.460 seems that the world leaders think it's important and when i look at the outline of world events it

01:37:29.300 seems that a lot of the nations and the statesmen of the world behave as if this is a geopolitical

01:37:35.800 reality they are still to this day concerned with russian containment it seems to me that russia

01:37:43.300 is still interested in expanding its borders into the exact same areas it always was and i think

01:37:51.400 that the it's easy for us to say these things are false living in canada or north america but

01:37:57.300 if you're in sweden i think you have a long time horizon in the reverse i think you have

01:38:04.280 the statesmen in sweden and the statesmen in poland and ukraine have a much more distinct

01:38:11.540 relationship with their neighbors that we in the western world would and so you know that's why i

01:38:16.660 wanted to start with they seem to be acting as if this is real so that's why i just wanted to

01:38:21.200 preface it with that so just as a refresher here on kind of what we're talking about

01:38:25.960 so it describes these um things called core areas there's a lot of language that we introduce in

01:38:34.180 this book so a core area is typically described as like a nation state or a geographic area

01:38:41.380 that has enough power to affect the areas around it.

01:38:45.560 Not every place is a core area.

01:38:47.840 Like China would be a core area.

01:38:49.560 Poland could be a core area.

01:38:51.540 Historically, you can have things that are core areas

01:38:53.440 that fall out of being a core area.

01:38:55.160 They're no longer important,

01:38:56.640 but Britain would be a core area.

01:38:58.580 So it says here,

01:38:59.440 core areas are defined by their location,

01:39:01.860 their social and political organization,

01:39:03.880 and their drive for hegemony.

01:39:07.500 A core area emerges as a marginal development

01:39:10.580 at the junction between the territory of two parent cultures.

01:39:14.920 It emerges when an acceleration of centrifugal forces

01:39:18.420 seeks to strike out an independent course

01:39:20.600 in a location well-suited to the exercise of power.

01:39:24.480 Such a location is likely to be a center

01:39:26.880 of hydrographic convergence or divergence.

01:39:30.040 Power and authority can radiate from it

01:39:32.660 along river networks or sea lanes,

01:39:35.300 and it draws traders, churchmen, and soldiers

01:39:37.600 in search of fame, wealth, and power.

01:39:39.320 So a lot of these core areas or these important nations also happen to be geographically beneficial.

01:39:46.460 And this is something you hear a lot in the study of political realism that, you know, for example, like Britain.

01:39:53.260 Britain has a lot going for it geographically.

01:39:56.180 A, it's an island.

01:39:57.260 That means it's very, very difficult to invade.

01:39:59.540 And it means it can project power in a more effective way.

01:40:03.240 Whereas if you are beset on all sides by enemies or invasive forces, it makes it very, very difficult for you to become a core area.

01:40:12.360 Like some places, for lack of a better term, are sort of geographically doomed to always be invaded.

01:40:19.340 And this is kind of the heart of the heartland theory that Russia as a nation is very geographically advantageous, the way its mountains are laid out and the way its river networks work.

01:40:30.760 it's it's very difficult for people to invade russia we look at russia we see the arctic ocean

01:40:36.260 we know that some of their ports freeze uh some of the year they have to go through the ice pack

01:40:41.680 to get to the sea lanes of the world if you look in front of the ural mountains it's flat ground

01:40:46.800 it's flat ground all the way through the north european plain all the way to the english channel

01:40:52.900 and if we look at where the baltic sea is and then move down through poland you'll find the

01:40:59.340 carpathian mountains right let's just hold that one there carpathian mountains now that gap there

01:41:06.780 is the narrowest point of the north european plain and it's through that gap that russia has

01:41:13.140 been invaded time and again by poland by sweden by the lithuanian empire by the french in 1812

01:41:20.280 all the way to the gates of uh moscow by the germans in 1914 and by the germans again in 1941

01:41:26.120 on so ask yourself what that does to the russian psyche what it does is that the russian foreign

01:41:32.760 policy looking westwards will always be to dominate that flat ground in front of them

01:41:37.880 to try to have a buffer of ukraine belarus and the baltic states and if they can achieve it even to

01:41:44.280 have dominance over that gap poland and that's why poland disappears off the map every now and again

01:41:50.520 through the centuries it's also why poland uh has its own foreign policy vis-a-vis russia

01:41:58.300 but the frontier area in the crescent to the south of it is full of all these other nations

01:42:03.800 that are much smaller much more decentralized and they're much much easier to invade it's

01:42:10.260 always been historically accurate to say that russia is very difficult to invade

01:42:13.680 and over the course of centuries this thing called russia amalgamated as a combination

01:42:20.600 of like the the mongols plus the byzantium and it kind of crafted this new identity from the

01:42:28.560 combination of these two that are very very distinct from the west and that's kind of how

01:42:32.760 you start with you start with that russia can never really be part of the west because it's

01:42:36.900 different like biologically but then you also start with like the way it kind of formed it

01:42:43.380 coalesced into a homogenous mass in the ways that its neighbors couldn't and that meant that it

01:42:49.700 could project its power yeah project its power different than china like and this is what's so

01:42:55.520 interesting with russia and china that relationship persists to this day because in the book it shows

01:43:02.100 that over the course of these centuries russia was always trying to invade and take over territory

01:43:08.180 and practice the sort of manifest destiny china rarely did china being a core area being very

01:43:15.620 very powerful historically powerful going back centuries and centuries but it always took a

01:43:20.020 defensive position china and and you know why was that well partly religious partly geographically

01:43:27.700 ideologically there's just something written in the dna of china where it doesn't like to invade

01:43:33.780 and take territory as much as it likes to kind of defend and be this sort of hermit kingdom it's got

01:43:39.480 a longer history of like shutting off the rest of the world shutting itself off from trade and not

01:43:45.480 being as machiavellian as the russians but what's interesting is is you know the more you look back

01:43:52.080 in time the more you see that that dynamic really persists to this day and why um a lot of people

01:43:59.560 talk about BRICS you've heard about BRICS this idea of um connective tissue between India and

01:44:08.120 Russia and China and you know people always say like you know if only Russia and China could

01:44:14.300 partner up they could like take over the world or at least take over the Eurasian landmass you've

01:44:19.980 probably heard that right um the question i ask is well why didn't they why didn't they like 0.88

01:44:27.660 honestly for people who say that people who speculate well why the fuck didn't they why 0.96

01:44:32.460 didn't they for centuries why don't they now they can't no one's fucking stopping them but 0.86

01:44:38.600 the reality is we'll get into this the next book that like there's just this like ancient historical 0.60

01:44:44.400 barrier between them like they they don't get along they don't like each other there's something

01:44:49.460 there where they'll never really unify like that like maybe their allegiances can align every so

01:44:56.880 often in very very sparse economic ways but like you have to understand that the relationship

01:45:02.620 between russia and china is outlined in this book they've been trying to like get together for like

01:45:08.220 500 years and china has always like fought it they just they never wanted to open up trade routes

01:45:14.520 they never wanted to have a relationship with russia they just they just never did

01:45:18.640 and i don't know like that to me so when people say like they talk about like a multi-polar world

01:45:24.380 i'm like i don't there's just something you have to understand that they don't view themselves the

01:45:29.760 same way the west or europe does like they just they really do think that they could take over

01:45:35.220 the world and that they deserve to take over the world and and i'm not trying to be anti-russian

01:45:40.520 i'm really not like to me the purpose of like the geopolitics of containment is that everyone kind

01:45:48.060 of wants to take over eurasia britain wants to take over eurasia like everyone does and they're

01:45:53.060 all fighting over the same pivot space and the entire idea of this sort of geopolitics is that

01:45:59.920 there's this line in the book that i just loved um it was by a british guy his name escapes me

01:46:07.500 but he says the frontier and the steps he's talking about the steps specifically um sort

01:46:13.400 of outside russia but he's like it demands to be invaded it invites the conqueror like this area

01:46:20.140 people talk like the middle east like it's always been invaded like there's something about it where

01:46:24.080 yes for like a millennia it's been invaded there's something that empires they want it they'll never

01:46:30.540 stop trying to invade it and they usually they get it for a while then they lose it but it's

01:46:35.000 always being taken and people laugh about that like america tried and russia tried it's like

01:46:39.600 no they've always been trying but there's something about this one geographic location

01:46:44.500 in the world that they're always fighting over it and once it's like this eternal battle that

01:46:50.600 i think once you view it like that it kind of changes how you view geopolitics too

01:46:53.880 it makes it like why does america want that why does everyone want that why does everyone want

01:46:59.100 Because there is a belief that if anyone can achieve dominance in that area, in that part of the Eurasian continent, you control the world.

01:47:11.060 Because once again, it comes down to geography.

01:47:13.240 It turns, if you control the Baltic Sea, if you control the Black Sea, you control these trade routes, you can control the largest land mass on Earth.

01:47:21.540 And if you control that, then the rest of the world basically falls.

01:47:25.120 and at no point in human history has anyone really controlled eurasia not now people say

01:47:31.680 like oh it's a unipolar world right now america doesn't control eurasia not really it kind of

01:47:36.580 controls europe but you know we talked about this last time this recontextualizes the war in ukraine

01:47:41.460 right it's still that ukraine's always been invaded we talked about this many many episodes

01:47:46.500 ago when we talked about the history of ukraine that that's a long history of being passed between

01:47:51.400 empires but no one's really controlled uh the eurasian landmass but if if the geopolitics of

01:47:59.680 containment are to be believed like they're always going to be trying to do that so what do you do

01:48:05.460 about that and that was essentially kind of that's like what world war one was about um and so the

01:48:11.800 way to imagine this is like you have your core areas these are like cultural capitals and then

01:48:17.040 radiating out from that you have a succession of these sort of contested zones and some of these

01:48:22.900 are defined by environmental forces some are defined by economic or cultural forces

01:48:27.300 and these kind of change across time these are called marginal zones and they usually lack the

01:48:33.640 resources or trade routes like stand on their own but become like vassal states to these core areas

01:48:39.120 and that space between core areas is called the proximate zone this is kind of the area that

01:48:46.140 they're always vying for um and it always feeds the interest of one of the core zones um and these

01:48:53.600 usually define the limits of conquest because one of the things you get into in this book is

01:48:57.720 when you're talking about taking over these lands you have what's called sort of the optimum of

01:49:03.500 conquest the optimum of expansion and it's this sort of natural boundary to where you can't expand

01:49:10.320 anymore and a lot of things can affect that so um during russia's period of expansion it was i mean

01:49:18.040 there was between 1600 and 1900 there were around i think four or five wars between russia and persia

01:49:25.360 what was known as persia at the time which is now known as iran and a few other places

01:49:29.500 and a few times like russia got control of persia but they were there it was easy to take some of

01:49:37.920 these areas but they couldn't hold them that's a story as old as time now what makes you so you

01:49:42.780 can't hold an area well you can't control the people like they're too alien to you you can't

01:49:47.240 understand them this is why at various points like even the remember we talked about the mongols the

01:49:51.780 mongols took over china they couldn't hold china china absorbed the mongols so there's this sort

01:49:59.120 of like naturally occurring limit to conquest where one culture or one core area even if they

01:50:05.940 take an area they'll eventually be repelled they can't hold it or they're too powerful there's too

01:50:10.300 many revolutions too much pushback so at various points they figured out like a persia is their

01:50:16.740 line of optimum conquest and they can only go so far south like they could kind of go into

01:50:23.600 at various points they got into russia not russia but uh austria and germany and you know there is

01:50:31.160 no reason to think that they couldn't take all of scandinavia i think they think they could take

01:50:36.740 all scandinavia you know they they got sweden for a long time um and you know that's sort of the

01:50:44.460 blood memory that a lot of scandinavia and northern europe has right now that's why they

01:50:48.980 you know to a lot of westerners they don't see russia as this this thing to be wary of

01:50:55.180 but you know that's really what they're thinking of and there's two different sort of geopolitical

01:51:02.300 strategies to handle borders so you've got what's called a closed border policy which is a hard stop

01:51:08.820 on conquest where expansion is not economically or militarily feasible and this would be the line

01:51:14.520 like between india and pakistan this is a hard line or like north and south korea

01:51:19.840 but this is a line like we're not going anything going past here is going to be straight up war

01:51:24.660 um and that's established by both sides however most of the world doesn't have that a lot of the

01:51:29.720 world would have um uh what invites what's called a forward policy which is you know it you're

01:51:37.860 encouraging incursion into like this is the middle east like there's the middle east is always being

01:51:43.160 invaded because there is no like hard military line where if you cross it you're going to get

01:51:47.180 like nukes shot at you so a lot of the world is like that most of africa is like that these borders

01:51:52.620 are very very malleable and so if you're a core area you could have what's called a forward policy

01:51:57.740 where you're unless you're told not to you're pretty much always trying to invade these areas

01:52:03.060 is the is the whole thing and that's why like a policy of neutrality doesn't work

01:52:08.420 um we're going to get into this in the future when we talk about the book american diplomacy

01:52:14.340 by this kind of canon but uh it's this idea that the idea of being politically neutral is kind of

01:52:21.120 like a new concept it doesn't even make sense or the idea of going to war to protect neutrality

01:52:28.340 doesn't make any fucking sense if you're actually looking at it from sort of like a political

01:52:33.120 realist standpoint it's like you can only be a vassal state or you can be a core area you actually 0.96

01:52:38.900 don't have the ability to check out of that game it's just a matter of time until you fall to

01:52:45.400 something unless you can like make a play for your own sovereignty which can happen which is

01:52:51.540 what happened with germany um and really the uh this is what's so interesting about this story

01:52:57.020 the story of um what really finally broke russia was world war one and was germany because one of

01:53:05.840 the stories in the book is that the real arc of the book was that russia was able to invade its

01:53:13.380 neighbors and these other countries because

01:53:15.440 they're always so hostile with each other.

01:53:19.080 And at various

01:53:19.880 points in Russian history, Russia was always

01:53:21.660 disorganized and disjointed. This is when the

01:53:23.600 Mongols invaded. The Mongols were able to invade

01:53:25.660 Russia because Russia was just these

01:53:27.660 feuding princes that couldn't

01:53:29.700 coordinate to push back the Mongols.

01:53:31.580 But during the imperial period,

01:53:33.560 it was the opposite, where

01:53:35.140 Austria and Hungary

01:53:37.420 were at odds, and the Germanic

01:53:39.380 peoples were all warring with each other. And it's

01:53:41.420 like if they did unite they could have fought russia and this is the story of europe like europe

01:53:46.160 was very rarely unified and because it was always fighting itself russia was able to kind of take

01:53:52.400 over these fringe areas and they did it a few ways like with sweden sweden was interesting because

01:53:59.820 they took over almost diplomatically now russia was always against the ottoman empire that was

01:54:05.760 their big rival at the time and up until the fall of the ottoman empire but a lot of their um

01:54:11.440 conquest is done through subterfuge and diplomacy and he makes a point in the book by saying that

01:54:18.300 a lot of the even back then because we get this idea that what we call what was it fourth

01:54:24.080 generation warfare and information warfare that's sort of a modern thing it's not they're doing this

01:54:29.460 in the 1700s like russia was was known for like finding resistance movements in these countries

01:54:36.380 and putting money towards them to destabilize the countries and then move in as sort of this

01:54:42.220 protector to bring stability back as long as you rewrote the constitution to be beneficial to them

01:54:49.220 or they had a tendency to broker deals with what he calls the men of power in countries they did

01:54:56.140 this in persia like the story of how they invade persia like they would find these countries that

01:55:00.220 were already sort of disintegrating from within then they would swoop in make deals with the

01:55:06.400 power brokers there and then just literally what america does now like america america didn't

01:55:12.660 invent that it didn't invent destabilizing a country making a deal with the guy they put on

01:55:19.760 the throne that's like essentially going to make them in in russia's pocket this backfired on them

01:55:25.580 a few times but a lot of what they did was was that but like in the case of persia they just

01:55:31.180 couldn't hold it anyway because you know they always found the thing about russia was also

01:55:37.700 that they were always staunchly uh russian orthodox christian and they were always against

01:55:43.720 islam so the idea that they they're always trying to like take over these areas that

01:55:49.280 they were just repelled by the power of islam that you can't rule these people

01:55:53.580 with a christian authority and so that's one of the main reasons that

01:55:57.940 you know that's one sort of the line of optimum conquest you can't really just transplant a

01:56:03.760 different religion on these people which is kind of what happens in turkey in the in the aftermath

01:56:09.020 of the ottoman empire the other thing that russia had going for it was that it was able to modernize

01:56:14.280 more than a lot of other of its neighbors so like the various core areas around russia would have

01:56:19.780 been china poland sweden uh the turks and the persians they're always trying to check russian

01:56:25.400 expansion but they couldn't modernize and they couldn't unify so because they couldn't do either

01:56:30.180 of those they really couldn't stop russia or they russia was able to kind of turn them against each

01:56:35.960 other. One great example of what Russia did was in the early 1700s, Poland was devastated in the

01:56:46.620 Russo-Swedish War. So Poland was destabilized. It was really, really hurting. And they tried to

01:56:55.040 elect their own king, Augustus II, who proved to be unpopular with all the dynastic landowning

01:57:02.480 families in poland and they actually rose up against him um and so russia this was like the

01:57:09.700 they would always step in to mediate these conflicts so they always had a tendency like

01:57:15.100 oh here's an unpopular king all the dynasties all the men of power are rebelling because this

01:57:19.680 happened way way more than you think that the elites were revolting and then russia comes in

01:57:25.400 and says you know we'll come in we'll stop this this civil war that's going on as long as you uh

01:57:33.080 on the one condition that you let us approve your kings going forward and so that's how essentially

01:57:38.800 they took over poland um and another thing that russia did uh that proved very very effective

01:57:45.020 there's two things um one was uh napoleon so the rise of napoleon spooked a lot of these men of

01:57:53.200 power throughout europe and by men of power we mean the ancien regime we mean the dynastic

01:57:58.680 families the elites that napoleon was rebelling against and so russia perhaps ideologically was

01:58:05.740 able to position itself as a force of conservatism so it was russia was able to broker all these

01:58:13.760 deals with the elites throughout europe by saying that side with us and we'll stop this 0.70

01:58:19.320 fucking liberalism thing we'll stop this revolution um and you also saw the exact same thing happened 0.57

01:58:26.360 during the french revolution exact same thing russia was making a plea to all the established 0.99

01:58:33.100 power brokers that we are the true conservatives side with us

01:58:36.920 side with us and we'll basically save your nations from these 0.99

01:58:46.460 fucking shit libs and actually worked for quite some time um up until the bolshevik revolution 0.99

01:58:56.100 basically um and an interesting way that's kind that's that's pretty much how they took over 0.99

01:59:03.940 poland too and weakened it because uh during that time um of the french revolution

01:59:09.640 one of the primary concerns was fighting the export of the french revolution all throughout

01:59:15.280 europe and poland was starting to adopt what was seen by outsiders that as a jacobin constitution

01:59:23.440 and a lot of these other countries were united under russia to squash the revolution from

01:59:28.160 appearing elsewhere so this led to russia partitioning poland to in polish interest

01:59:34.560 because russia had the tendency wherever it got power you could weaken them by saying

01:59:38.800 we're doing this for you we're doing this to save you so they would like partition entire countries

01:59:44.480 to like stop the spread of revolution which really only served russian interests overall and again

01:59:49.920 when i say this i don't want to position russia as uniquely evil because again this is something that

01:59:56.120 other powerful nations do as well and even if you don't agree with the heartland theory i do think

02:00:04.760 it's it is interesting to see it as as a phenomena that like the way power operates is you know if

02:00:13.260 If you are a powerful nation, this is how Britain had to get involved, because they had said, if Russia takes over these areas, if it domates this pivot area and takes over Eastern Europe and takes over its own southern borders, it will own all the trade, it will control the trade, and there goes the continent. 0.98

02:00:31.540 so you have to give a shit 0.98

02:00:33.480 you have to contain them 0.99

02:00:35.280 and what's interesting is

02:00:37.140 all these nations

02:00:39.800 at various times did

02:00:41.600 unify to push Russia back

02:00:43.360 and that was what happened with Germany

02:00:45.700 because Germany

02:00:47.340 there was this

02:00:49.620 cool, exciting

02:00:51.500 new phenomena called nationalism

02:00:53.700 that was taking over

02:00:55.580 that was uniting these

02:00:56.980 Germanic peoples that were traditionally

02:00:59.620 at odds

02:01:00.440 because in the wake of Napoleon 300 something German states turned into like 39 and some Germans

02:01:08.340 thought you know in terms of maybe it should be just one German state uh after all keep in mind

02:01:14.860 nationalism uh is a big deal in Europe at this time and there's a guy uh Fitch who wrote the

02:01:21.920 first original and truly natural boundaries of states are beyond doubt their internal boundaries

02:01:28.440 Those who speak the same language are joined to each other by a multitude of invisible bonds by nature herself.

02:01:36.940 Long before any human art begins, they understand each other.

02:01:41.060 They belong together and are by nature one and an inseparable whole.

02:01:47.500 Russia always counted on that Austria would fight Germany.

02:01:52.620 And it was okay with Germany forming this constitution and becoming this country called Germany

02:01:58.080 that oh they're going to fight each other once austria united with germany to push back against

02:02:04.420 russia that was pretty much the end of russia that was world war one that was there was no

02:02:10.860 stopping the vivacity of this thing called germany because you know now people you look at germany

02:02:20.520 it's current state it's in this severely compromised and crippled state but there was a 0.98

02:02:25.260 time when this this nation called germany appeared on the scene that seemed to have like the fucking 0.93

02:02:32.360 wind of the gods at their back and was able to unify in a way and push back this encroaching 0.91

02:02:38.940 multinational empire that no one else could do sweden couldn't do a perfect every everyone else

02:02:44.220 is in disrepair everyone else is fighting but germany ended up spelling the doom of the russian

02:02:50.380 imperialist period according to this book and i i think that's fairly accurate but it also shows

02:02:56.260 why everyone was kind of obsessed with germany during the 19th century as well because everyone

02:03:01.780 was scared of germany in a sense they still are too um and there's a kind of a summary here that

02:03:09.620 i think says it pretty well it says in 1700 russia was not a threatened state sweding was blocking

02:03:16.820 access to the Baltic by occupying the mouths of the Neva, the Nerova, and the Divina, but

02:03:23.240 had traced a line of optimum of conquest from Lake Pepys to Lake Laganga, the sources of

02:03:30.000 Russian expansion must be sought instead in the internal dynamism of the core area.

02:03:35.740 In a Du dynasty that inherited the ambitions of its predecessor and claimed the inheritance

02:03:40.500 of the Teutonic Order in the West, the Byzantine Empire in the Valley of Dnipur, and the

02:03:46.180 chinghis dynasty of the steppe from crimea to mongolia so basically he was saying like what

02:03:51.700 russia is its internal dynamic nature is a combination of byzantium and the mongols

02:03:57.360 that and having access to that space that geographically optimum space created this

02:04:04.180 entity called russia in the formation of a strong ruling class and the consolidation of serfdom

02:04:11.100 in a political religious ideology strengthened by the schism that sanctified the secular power

02:04:17.040 in a yearning for contacts with the world of the european coastland that promised to give russia

02:04:22.460 the tools of modernization blocked but also filtered by the poles and the swedes and in a

02:04:29.820 commitment to economic development and military reforms in order to gain a strategic superiority

02:04:36.340 or the enemies of yesterday on the western and southern frontiers so i just like that because

02:04:43.100 it really explains like why russia is doing this like what sets russia apart its identity its dna

02:04:49.340 from a place like china from the west um yeah and so just to kind of summarize what ended up

02:04:59.560 pushing back it said unlike sweden and other nations prussia was not a core power in decline

02:05:05.840 or internally combusting had a different sort of energy and began to expand into germany

02:05:11.280 and centralize its own power with nationalist zeal this culminated in the germanic unification

02:05:18.200 movement which would ultimately roll russia back to its 1650 borders and constitute a central core

02:05:25.860 power in itself so at the birth of this german nationalist movement you have the birth of a core

02:05:32.500 power and Russia's hatred of Austria led it to actually be kind of okay with the unification of

02:05:41.300 Germany under Otto von Bismarck which would they were hoping strike a blow at France which was one

02:05:48.700 of its main rivals as a coastal power because that's the outline here they always say the heartland

02:05:54.680 Russia is always against the coastal powers and you know we kind of mentioned this in the last

02:06:00.460 book where there are two types of warfare russia is land and the coastal powers are obviously ships

02:06:07.180 and they're almost like two different entities entirely but in that sense they're always going

02:06:12.660 to see each other as rivals because they are two different entities and so you know russia was

02:06:17.100 hoping oh we have this thing called germany that's going to be a problem for france didn't end up

02:06:21.720 being a big problem for france because the unified germany largely sided with austria over russia

02:06:28.280 and become their primary opponent because everyone's looking at the same thing they're

02:06:33.200 looking at russia saying we actually we don't want this huge power to expand we can momentarily

02:06:39.700 unify against them in a form of containment which is like we discussed the last episode that's all

02:06:47.520 nato really is all nato is therefore is to contain russia everyone says oh nato was created during

02:06:53.640 the era of the Soviet Union you know now that communism's over you don't need NATO no no no

02:06:58.940 no you don't understand it's to contain Russia ancient Russia the Soviet Union was still

02:07:06.200 ethnically and ideologically and spiritually Russian in its ambitions that's why it keeps 0.88

02:07:12.220 invading the same fucking places right it has the exact same grievances with the coastal powers 0.97

02:07:18.420 effectively nothing has changed 0.98

02:07:20.860 in this conflict like the 0.99

02:07:22.580 Soviet Union was just a fucking 0.99

02:07:24.180 rebranding it was just like 1.00

02:07:26.480 an ideological pitch shift for a

02:07:28.540 minute but it's kind of the

02:07:30.580 same war going on again and again

02:07:32.460 and again

02:07:32.860 and the only difference now is that

02:07:36.440 this the coastal powers

02:07:38.680 now have America and that

02:07:40.320 and perhaps

02:07:41.960 you know depending who you ask eventually South

02:07:44.520 America that's a whole different we'll get

02:07:46.560 into that next episode about

02:07:47.980 the evolution of the west writ large as a as a one unified insane core area but and just a um

02:07:58.240 just to summarize it this is a point if you are into political realism realism theory if you're

02:08:05.440 into heartland theory one thing that comes up a lot is historically uh europe and especially

02:08:12.400 america have always been late to the game about this stuff and that's a criticism a lot of the

02:08:17.660 uh uh realist theorists talk about like america even now thinks too ideologically it thinks too

02:08:25.480 emotionally it thinks in like narratives it doesn't think in political realities

02:08:29.580 and the story of russia like russia was only really contained just on the brink in like 1917

02:08:36.800 in world war one and that's when the pushback started as we said but like it could have been

02:08:41.820 stopped at any point prior to that all it needed was the coastal powers all it needed was the rest

02:08:48.140 of europe to actually take notice in what was happening but it couldn't because they're always

02:08:52.140 fighting each other but once they kind of figured that out that sort of ushered in a new era of

02:08:59.000 geopolitical realities and one could make the claim that it was the end of isolationism i think

02:09:06.300 sort of the last across the finish line is america that there's still people who believe in

02:09:11.360 isolationism in america and if you're into geopolitics you really can't do that and for a

02:09:17.000 lot of people especially because we live on a landmass that is separated by oceans we'd like

02:09:21.240 to think that we could everyone could just be cool with each other but i i think europeans know

02:09:28.120 that there there's enough history there that there's they live every day the reality that

02:09:34.240 there's always a war going on there's always an expansion there's always some geopolitical

02:09:40.020 shift happening i don't think isolationism is something that most europeans believe in now i

02:09:46.860 might be wrong in that i'm not scottish i'm not spanish i don't know what it's like but it seems

02:09:52.080 to me that for those who have an understanding of history like you're aware that like isolationism

02:09:57.540 just seems silly like you need to you're forced to be a realist if you if you're living if you're

02:10:04.100 germany and you're surrounded by all these foreign countries canada's not surrounded by foreign 0.97

02:10:09.160 are surrounded by fucking oceans it's a completely different reality but the era of not giving a 0.98

02:10:18.140 shit what's happening over in lithuania or sweden kind of died you know died certainly in world one 0.99

02:10:24.060 but even leading up to that once they realized that unless we band together and stop this 0.91

02:10:28.900 juggernaut from forming like they're not going to stop and again just to once again say this isn't

02:10:35.180 like positioning Russia as the villain.

02:10:38.420 It almost, it's like that line he has said

02:10:42.020 where the frontier is the place

02:10:46.300 that invites conquest.

02:10:48.480 That's the line from the book that I love.

02:10:50.520 That there are these spaces that almost,

02:10:52.260 if you are an advanced society,

02:10:54.100 it almost demands to be taken over

02:10:55.920 because there's another group

02:10:57.800 that's going to take it over if you don't.

02:11:00.340 So you almost have to, you owe it to yourself.

02:11:03.060 and that's if you are not even an empire but a core area what is a core area a core area

02:11:09.240 is just a unified area that's culturally and ethnically and economically unified and powerful 0.97

02:11:15.660 if you reach that level you are forced into this game like you're forced to give a shit about these 0.92

02:11:22.020 frontier areas because in in this geopolitical reality you don't get to be isolationist you 0.92

02:11:28.560 don't get to be neutral you only get to either achieve core area sovereignty or be a vassal

02:11:35.980 state of another core area that's how it was in the 1600s and that's kind of how it is now

02:11:41.560 now there's a lot i i didn't get to cover because i could spend three episodes on this going to the

02:11:48.420 history of russia getting its hooks into the greek independence movement the greek nationalist

02:11:54.660 getting its hooks into a lot of different nationalist movements and starting political

02:11:58.720 uprisings it trying to open trade routes with china and not being able to do it going to war

02:12:05.200 with japan and just fail you know there's a lot of wars they they fail but the other thing is that

02:12:10.260 um you know once you understand this history you look at world war one and you just see world war

02:12:17.100 one as like the last in a line of like 25 different wars like it's insane how many wars were happening

02:12:25.160 at that time in the balkans and there's all kinds although he makes mention in the book that these

02:12:32.060 were different kinds of wars as well these were wars where the men of power were the ones at war

02:12:39.160 you didn't have total war total war came about in world war one and world war two where it was just

02:12:45.760 everyone's involved you know civilians are being carpet bombed the types of war you were exposed

02:12:50.640 to were kind of different back then that was always an interesting phenomenon to me talking

02:12:54.420 to other people in our generation who consider like world war ii and the great war in the context

02:12:59.960 of centuries of peace it's like no actually we've had a century of peace since them relatively

02:13:08.220 speaking but prior to that the only thing that distinguished them the reason we called it the

02:13:12.160 great war was it was the first real global total war that we'd had we'd have like regional total

02:13:17.640 wars like every fucking eight years for a thousand years but like that was the first time because of

02:13:23.520 industrial technology even at the ability to do it like essentially electricity and the telegraph 0.52

02:13:28.140 and whatever else kind of kind of allowed us to do that but yeah i mean it's it's it really is a

02:13:32.600 history of just constant war so yeah and and these were always wars largely of either conquest or of

02:13:39.540 containment um even if they weren't called that because and i think that's just an interesting

02:13:44.480 way of looking at it of like you need to fight these wars just to push back the inevitable growth

02:13:50.720 of these core areas that you need to keep in check and i i don't think we've left that reality

02:13:58.060 either i still i survey the landscape of global conflicts and i more or less see the same thing i

02:14:04.800 do however see

02:14:06.500 the allegiances shifted

02:14:08.960 and obviously technology shifted

02:14:11.120 everything but I don't know

02:14:12.860 you still see the

02:14:15.240 outline of coastal powers

02:14:16.920 versus heartland

02:14:18.080 and that was the cold war as well

02:14:20.440 and that's kind of what you see here

02:14:22.800 with China just

02:14:24.920 lingering on the edges

02:14:26.840 always lingering

02:14:29.180 always just there

02:14:30.420 for 1.00

02:14:32.980 for like 700 years people have been like don't fuck with china but china never really fucks with 0.99

02:14:38.560 anyone but they're there and everyone's kind of nervous about china and everyone sees china like 0.97

02:14:44.100 even go back to like 1700s like russia was determined to open up trade routes with china

02:14:49.280 like they wanted so desperately to trade in furs and stuff like that because that's all they could

02:14:54.060 trade in and china's just like no we don't want to we're gonna build we're just into building

02:14:59.960 walls right now anyway i we went on a bit longer but i i hope i got the point across it these are

02:15:08.220 we discussed heartland theory last episode these are the actual wars and the actual time frame

02:15:13.400 of what built the history that built this idea of heartland theory it's not just

02:15:19.600 looking at a map and drawing lines it's like this was the lived relationship of these nations for

02:15:27.020 like 400 years and you know it's still kind of happening anyway did any of that make sense yeah

02:15:33.720 yeah it was cool all right cool everyone i hope that was good i'll talk to you later yeah man for

02:15:39.200 See you.

02:15:39.820 Bye.

02:15:55.920 I am extremely pleased to be sitting here with an individual, a man who I'm a great fan of and have been for many, many years.

02:16:04.000 For my money, he is in the top political commentators in Canada, good old fashioned Canadian guy, the Raging Dissident, aka Jeremy McKenzie. He is the founder of the Plaid Army and Diagalon. You can find him at RagingDissident.com. He is also the host of the RageCast. You can find that on YouTube, you can find that on Odyssey, you can find that on Rumble, wherever good podcasts are found.

02:16:32.020 He covers a lot of Canadian issues, political issues, and a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about on the show, including the trucker protests, he's been on the ground floor of.

02:16:43.620 And I'm very excited to talk to him today.

02:16:45.260 Thank you so much for taking the time, Jeremy.

02:16:47.820 Thanks for having me, dude.

02:16:48.860 Appreciate it.

02:16:49.980 All right.

02:16:50.280 So just to start, I'm aware of your whole story, but I think it's very important that

02:16:55.760 people really understand where you are, where the rubber meets the road with our sort of

02:17:01.660 political milieu in Canada.

02:17:03.920 And just to start, there's this thing called Diagalon.

02:17:08.540 And if people search Diagalon on Google, DuckDuckGo, whatever it might be, they'll find a lot

02:17:15.180 of news articles from the Canadian press about Diagalon.

02:17:17.760 it's this big scary group and Jeremy is the leader of it but I wanted to know straight from

02:17:25.200 the horse's mouth what is Diagalon what should people know about it well that's a kind of an

02:17:32.080 apt comparison I feel like a rubber tire on the road some days just getting ground into oblivion

02:17:37.780 but um yeah so it's it gets complicated I will try to the only way to make for this to make sense

02:17:47.000 is just kind of going chronological, you know, beginning, middle, end story format. Otherwise,

02:17:51.080 it's a mess and a nightmare to understand. During the lockdown period, I, you know,

02:18:00.280 kind of became a meme and a joke on the podcast as people were, I mean, I'm sure I don't need to

02:18:05.580 remind people with a lot of, and still are, with the sentiments and thoughts and stuff were along

02:18:10.040 those days. Like, there's two parallel realities here that definitely can't seem to coexist. So

02:18:16.880 what does that kind of mean in the future? I don't know. But, um, you know, the joke was kind

02:18:21.440 of look at, um, our Western Canadian provinces weren't, we're not following the, uh, the mandates

02:18:27.340 neither was most of the Midwestern United States, the Southern U S Texas, Florida, et cetera,

02:18:31.660 and Alaska. So if you, you know, on a map, you can kind of draw a line from Alaska to Florida.

02:18:37.420 And I was like, there, that's where all the sane people live. That's where all the,

02:18:40.280 the cool people are, you know, so we'll all just retreat to these boundaries and we'll just form

02:18:45.960 our own super state here and everybody else can go to hell and it was you know it was kind of just

02:18:50.820 a running gag on the on the podcast for a little bit and then it was a parallel you know a fantasy

02:18:55.300 kind of country world and then it um you know had its own theme song and its own national anthem and

02:19:00.180 celebrities and you know it was uh you know it just kept going and yeah that was kind of the

02:19:05.260 joke i mean i made it a flag for it yeah i made it on the toilet one day i was sitting there

02:19:09.960 someone's like well we need a national flag we were going to rip off i think it was ireland or

02:19:13.740 denmark or basically their their nation's website and just repopulate it with our stuff like just

02:19:18.640 crazy nonsense and you know lore and and you know like you would find oh ireland has a rich history

02:19:23.940 and you know xyz we would just you know copy and paste it but that was kind of the the the joke at

02:19:29.340 the time what we're going to do and then so i just we needed a flag and i made that one in about two

02:19:33.080 seconds on the toilet with a with a you know some kind of flag app i just use a black screen i took

02:19:38.940 my finger and went a couple of times and made a white line and i was like there you go there's

02:19:43.240 because it goes alaska to florida top left bottom right that's so that's how you know the that's it

02:19:47.780 that's the rebel flag of the dissonant all of north america and uh what's interesting is just

02:19:54.980 a quick point to that um i think it's very accurate because i was speaking to this guy

02:20:00.140 who you probably find very interesting his name's the black horse and he runs a substat called the

02:20:04.960 red ensigns canadian guy okay and he was um he's one of our recent interviews he was saying that

02:20:10.140 the way to look at canadian politics is more geographically than politically because we're

02:20:15.000 all used to like the red versus blue liberal versus conservative and they say well actually

02:20:18.940 it's east versus west and he talks about this thing called the laurentian elite and this is

02:20:23.780 where the truth is coming but he's like if you actually look at it's more geographically oriented

02:20:28.440 and once you look at it that way nearly everything starts to make sense because canada doesn't make

02:20:33.880 sense if you just look at it as two political parties but the moment you're like oh this is

02:20:38.080 why ontario is doing this against you know bc and alberta then everything makes sense yeah canada

02:20:44.540 doesn't even make sense to anyone looking at it through any lens really it's basically a hall of

02:20:48.680 mirrors and a funhouse circus of horrors at this point but uh yeah like western canada is where all

02:20:54.000 the conservatives live um generally it's much more like the united states midwestern u.s they

02:20:58.400 share quite a bit it feels like a different it is a different country when you're out there

02:21:01.820 the uh just the culture the you know the way people carry themselves i mean it's not uncommon

02:21:07.280 When, you know, guys are driving around with shotguns in their pickup trucks, and it's a lot of agrarian, rural, farm culture, oil fields, that kind of thing.

02:21:14.280 A lot of blue-collar workers is, you know, where all the political power is, the Laurentian elite you mentioned, and metropolitan Quebec and Ontario, the GTA in southern Ontario and stuff.

02:21:25.520 That's all, you know, cities and stuff, and it's a completely different, yeah, it's like two different worlds.

02:21:30.700 And unfortunately, all of the political power is centralized in the cities and the rural folks are, you know, pretty much left to the mercy of whatever gets decided in Toronto and Ottawa is what's going to happen everywhere.

02:21:40.680 Yeah. And you're on the East Coast, I believe.

02:21:43.760 Right.

02:21:44.080 And I was wondering, before we get too far into it, because I've always been curious, because you hear a lot about the West Coast.

02:21:49.300 You hear a lot about Ontario and how terrible Toronto is.

02:21:53.020 You don't hear a lot about the East Coast.

02:21:54.760 And I was just wondering, from your perspective, what's the political landscape like on that end of the country?

02:21:59.160 there's not much to talk about it's mostly alcohol and uh welfare checks and uh things like that

02:22:06.000 the trailer park boys uh they're only about 15 minutes down the road from where you know i live

02:22:10.300 so they uh that's probably a 20 exaggeration of eastern canada other than that it's pretty

02:22:16.100 that's kind of accurate and that's not really a good thing i mean it's a funny show and we like

02:22:20.880 it and everything but at the end of the day i i would say to you know people from atlanta canada

02:22:25.020 they'd be like oh we're like you're proud of this you're proud of this is what you're known for 0.90

02:22:29.160 after the trailer park boys there's not so you're known for being a bunch of drunks and drug addicts 0.99

02:22:33.240 and welfare bums and scam artists and lazy like that's not something to celebrate guys like that's 0.97

02:22:37.920 that's the thing like i get kind of dinged as being a bummer for pointing this out to people

02:22:42.240 and i'm a huge fan of the trailer park boys every canadian guy is but i'm like if you look at the 0.79

02:22:46.660 archetypes in trailer park boys in real life it's like julian's a statutory rapist probably

02:22:52.080 ricky is into like selling meth like he's in the show he sells weed because everyone that's funny

02:22:57.540 but I'm like no in real life that guy's a lot darker yeah yeah it's kind of just uh yeah it's

02:23:04.000 kind of like a polished up you know pg-13 version of you know kind of that area of Canada but there's

02:23:09.020 a lot it's it's very overwhelmingly left-leaning um because it's a lot of universities a lot of uh

02:23:14.740 I think the number one employer in Nova Scotia is the government of course I mean unless you're

02:23:18.700 born into like a fishing family or you join the military or you get to get a you know a gig out

02:23:24.920 the rigs or something there's not a lot to do out here so it's uh yeah the industry has been

02:23:30.220 decimated and destroyed for years of bad leadership and bad decision making so i will tell you that

02:23:35.300 there's a talk of a movement from ontario because everyone's trying to leave ontario it's prohibitive

02:23:39.920 and expensive i know there's a lot of people like hey we can get some cheap real estate out east so

02:23:45.180 you might start seeing a bunch of ontarians in the it was cheap i bought my house in in dartmouth

02:23:50.860 the notes you know toward in near halifax for probably a quarter million dollars when i bought

02:23:55.260 it in 2016 2017 and i think now it's probably doubled in value because of all of that there's

02:24:00.940 a lot of that happening and it's it's well i mean i mean technically but it's not really doubled in

02:24:05.800 value just the monetary price is the same if i sold it i'd spend just as much money on a similar

02:24:10.360 house somewhere else it's just going to cost that much more money you know i sell your house for

02:24:14.320 500 000 by basically the exact same house in another location for the same amount of money

02:24:18.360 So I'm not really getting wealthier.

02:24:20.220 It's just the money's worth less because of their terrible spending.

02:24:23.080 But yeah, I just wanted to finish that off, the DQ, the Diaglon question.

02:24:29.940 It just became synonymous with me and my podcast and the greater community.

02:24:35.960 I'm very community-oriented.

02:24:37.860 It's a very interactive kind of experience.

02:24:39.960 I interact with the chat a lot, and I go out and I meet people often,

02:24:43.880 and we have social events and functions and stuff like that.

02:24:46.600 So it's kind of, it's a lot, it's much more than just a, you know, kind of just a podcast at this point.

02:24:50.800 And it just kind of, that's become the, the, the rallying flag, the gang colors, if you will, you know, the police are taking notes, but yeah, that, that's our, that's our, like, if you're a fan of the Montreal Canadiens, it wouldn't be shocking to see a guy with a Montreal Canadiens sticker on his car.

02:25:02.560 Right.

02:25:03.360 And that's kind of the thing.

02:25:04.240 And we've sold thousands of these flags and patches and, you know, stuff.

02:25:07.580 They're all over the, they're all over the place.

02:25:08.820 And you can just, you know, send 20 bucks and get one.

02:25:12.040 Also, it's a cool design.

02:25:13.740 Also, it's easy to draw.

02:25:15.360 like it's got all the things you need in a good popular logo and what was amusing one of the

02:25:21.020 great joys in life is seeing a lot of the journalists catch on to this try to make it

02:25:27.300 sound scarier than it is and describe what it is and it sounds ridiculous it's like it's this far 0.51

02:25:32.840 right extremist who has a plan to draw a diagonal line across North America I'm like you can't make 0.99

02:25:39.180 this not sound like a meme well that was why so i named it that's a stupid name like diagonal on 0.99

02:25:46.900 that's the dumbest name i could think of which is why i chose it because it's ridiculous it's like 0.98

02:25:51.480 that's it's really that's a stupid name like yeah i know that's why i named it that it was supposed 0.99

02:25:54.880 to be 45 degree angle so stupid because it's yeah it's a diagonal line so then i we started 0.92

02:26:02.480 like the backslash on the keyboard like that's part of it now that's synonymous it's in like 0.81

02:26:06.840 the canadian hate index of like hate symbols you know they have like the triple parentheses for

02:26:11.500 people that are like talking about jews and it's like now that the three backslashes or the

02:26:15.400 backslash that's synonymous with us now and i've created a key a character i've created the back

02:26:19.960 symbol slash is now a hate symbol thanks to me so yeah and for people who think oh that sounds

02:26:25.100 crazy i'm like yeah you don't know the canadian anti-hate network like they'll put any thing in 0.89

02:26:30.500 there you're the spLC but twice as dumb and twice as aggressive yeah and really you got to watch 0.97

02:26:36.300 these people because even in the the papers they'll say you know diagonal they're not they 0.99

02:26:40.900 don't call for violence and they're not organized but it could conceivably lead to violence because

02:26:45.820 i just want to establish that on the show because a lot of we're going to get into this in a second

02:26:50.400 but as far as i know and i've followed this very closely they can't really pin anything on diagonal

02:26:58.240 they can't they want to they desperately want to act like it is but really there isn't well it's

02:27:04.080 been you know the the house of commons well so before this is this is what happened so this was

02:27:08.880 basically you know kind of the banner colors this is the branding is probably a more normie friendly

02:27:13.600 word uh the branding of you know me my podcast my community and what i'm what i'm doing and other

02:27:19.440 guys as well and we kind of taken it on as like this is our this is our thing now so you've got

02:27:23.820 my you know derek rance is another guy started collaborating with early on and ferryman's tolls

02:27:28.680 another you know kind of a a prospect we picked up along the way who's done incredibly great work

02:27:33.480 himself and he's kind of he's really doing a good job coming to his own as a force of nature

02:27:37.620 everyone you can find those people on telegram i follow them until oh yeah ferryman's toll and

02:27:42.380 derek rance are two guys to follow the ferryman's toll and then there's you know greg arcade and

02:27:46.660 there's all there's there's so much greg wycliffe there's a guy i don't want to you know you didn't

02:27:50.860 you didn't mention me like there's because there's too many of you guys and i'd be here all day but

02:27:54.300 there's a whole collective of us kind of now and that's that's the thing but

02:27:57.440 so what happened was uh fairy mistole alex um had had kind of taken my words to heart and said well

02:28:04.320 you know what i'm gonna i am gonna go find my friends because that was kind of the this is

02:28:07.820 when i stopped becoming this is when i became a problem for especially for law enforcement and

02:28:11.560 the government is that i was encouraging people to network in real life and start building you

02:28:15.780 know interpersonal relationships outside of you know the established parameters where you know

02:28:20.520 like nope no gatherings no like well we're gonna do gatherings uh we had one in saskatchewan where

02:28:25.300 I saw a bunch of people, 50, 60 people came from all over the country, pretty much total strangers.

02:28:30.080 Most of them were, and they had a great time.

02:28:32.580 People were crying, like tears of happiness to just to be reunited.

02:28:35.980 Like they're like, I felt like I'm home now.

02:28:38.200 And we were like, yeah, that's because you're with your people.

02:28:39.940 You're with your tribe, your culture, your in-group, you know, and you feel at home.

02:28:43.520 And it's like, I feel like I've known these people forever.

02:28:45.320 Like that's that feeling is because you're in your tribal in-group.

02:28:49.380 That's why it's like that.

02:28:50.600 And that's a valuable thing.

02:28:51.660 So I was like, we need to spread this everywhere.

02:28:53.540 and alex started to drive um he couldn't go east eastern canada because it was not allowed

02:28:58.580 you weren't allowed in the province or covet would kill all the children so he had to he went west

02:29:03.900 and ended up driving all over canada and meeting all kinds of these people and you know face to

02:29:08.280 face and you know stitching them up stitching them together and linking them together and so

02:29:12.060 the anti-hate network started to say that we were building a militia coast to coast traveling and

02:29:17.720 recruiting all of this stuff and it's a militia because as in western canada and because i'm a

02:29:22.600 military veteran and I'm a firearms guy and many of them are as well. So lots of them have, you

02:29:28.500 know, uh, firearms and stuff as part of the, you know, culture. And, uh, so that's there, that's

02:29:32.780 all you need to be a militia. So, so I decided, well, we're going to lean into this because in

02:29:37.520 my head, because I'm not, you know, mentally challenged, know that upon any examination of 0.99

02:29:42.440 this in any earnest fashion will reveal that I am simply a shit disturber. I'm intentionally 0.95

02:29:48.540 aggravating people and you know being an agitator essentially and there's no militia there's no you

02:29:53.920 know so once they look at this they'll see it so i was like i'm going to lean into this because i

02:29:58.880 know that the anti-hate network will not be able to ignore the bait and they're going to run with

02:30:02.900 this and then hopefully what will happen is the mainstream media will pick up on it look into it

02:30:08.080 and then go oh my god these people are you know ridiculous the anti-hate network you know they're 0.98

02:30:13.080 discredited they're buffoons they're they're insane but that's not what happened what happened 0.99

02:30:16.900 was they simply copied and pasted everything that they wrote and said and took it as gospel 0.98

02:30:21.580 and just announced to the world that oh yeah this is a far-right terrorist organization that's

02:30:25.860 going to take over the country and it went so far up the chain that by the time we got to

02:30:30.160 ottawa during the convoy that i'm listening to words written by the canadian anti-hate network

02:30:35.920 discredited liars come out of the mouth of the public safety minister out of senators out of

02:30:41.420 elected uh you know members of parliament in both the you know the upper chamber of the senate and

02:30:45.700 the you know the main house of commons talking about me and our friends and uh you know this

02:30:50.480 trailer you mentioned earlier that we're like that was shortly after it happened live we're like

02:30:54.320 laughing hysterically in this house we were all kind of staying at outside of ottawa that they

02:30:59.120 they took the bait this far it just became like it's just too crazy to believe that i'm sitting

02:31:04.380 here watching and there's lots of other people that will say oh no it's part of their work for

02:31:08.640 the government and this and that and it's all a psyop man like you don't understand that when

02:31:13.820 when it's you, like, I know what I've done and haven't done. I know my own life and my friends

02:31:18.620 and so on. And then to see at the highest levels of government, them talking about you, like you

02:31:23.580 are, um, you know, we're the FLQ and we are a serious threat to the country. And any minute

02:31:28.640 now we could over, not just the Canadian government, but apparently Washington DC as well.

02:31:32.340 I have my designs on any minute. We're going to take over and they need to declare a martial law

02:31:37.920 to stop me and this was repeated you know from numerous people it was crazy so uh that they just

02:31:44.880 took the bait and one of the things i did was i took then there's one and they like to the media

02:31:48.480 keeps reposting this and people tag me in this on twitter to try and like as a gotcha it's a photo

02:31:53.300 of me and like probably seven or eight other guys they've got like i bought the uh like the scary

02:31:57.660 skull masks they're all so afraid of because i noticed that was something they're they're worried

02:32:01.640 about so it's like okay they don't like skull masks i gotta get those i got the flag and make

02:32:05.760 sure you guys wear camouflage or something and and get some and all the all the weapons they had

02:32:10.360 were non-restricted you know registered legal firearms shotguns hunting rifles and stuff we

02:32:14.240 just took a picture off to the side of what was about 50 some other people with their kids and

02:32:19.660 families barbecues you know it was a whole big kind of party going on and we staged this photo

02:32:23.960 just out of frame to the right and i put redacted over everyone's eyes and faces and stuff and i

02:32:29.180 published it on my own social media as like we're we're a super militia we're gonna like it was

02:32:34.380 clearly a gag it was like when you read the caption it was clearly a joke like to kind of

02:32:38.520 poke fun at people and the media published it like it was real and they all just ran with it

02:32:42.980 and said look there's proof and i couldn't believe my jaw still hurts from when it hit the floor that 0.84

02:32:47.500 they're this dumb so just uh my mistake was i i well i don't even know if it was a mistake really 0.95

02:32:52.300 i'm glad it's kind of burned this many people down and continues to attack their credibility to this 0.99

02:32:55.820 day um i thought that there was more adults in the room than there is and someone would have

02:33:01.100 recognize what was happening before it got to where it did, but they didn't. And it all culminated

02:33:05.760 with me being, you know, against, against my charter rights and against my will and against

02:33:09.460 my lawyer's wishes to, I was forced, I was compelled to testify at the public order, uh,

02:33:14.260 commission, public order and emergency commission in, I think November from a jail cell.

02:33:20.160 That's what it forced me.

02:33:21.240 Everyone can find that video on YouTube. I was actually watching that earlier this week.

02:33:25.540 It's a very, it was you and a couple other people, but you were in the jail cell, but

02:33:29.000 had a suit on and everything too didn't you yeah i had um i had my girlfriend mail like well because

02:33:33.660 i knew what they wanted to do they wanted to um they wanted me to do it and i had no problem doing

02:33:39.540 it but i thought um you know my lawyer is like well depending on what they say and do like this

02:33:44.900 can this is going to impact your your trials and stuff you've got five got five criminal cases and

02:33:48.680 three provinces i'm fighting at the same time and he's like this is uh like on the safe side there's

02:33:54.480 no reason you should have to testify anyway. So we're going to apply to have, you know, to just

02:33:58.680 basically say no because of your charter rights to a fair trial, blah, blah, blah, to which the

02:34:02.700 POEC commission said, absolutely not. We don't care about his rights. We're going to force you

02:34:06.700 to, we're subpoenaing you to testify. You have to legally. So I'm like, okay, you asked for this

02:34:12.120 then? Like it was kind of a double bluff because I wanted them to believe that I didn't want to

02:34:16.420 testify when I did. I did want to, but I wanted them to think that I didn't. Um, so they were

02:34:21.800 hoping to get this disheveled, you know, I've been in jail for six, almost two months. I think

02:34:25.920 at that point I'm getting, uh, you know, native gang members are trying to stab me. There's,

02:34:30.500 you know, it was just, it was crazy. Right. Um, so like they want to see this disheveled broken,

02:34:35.240 you know, we're going to get you into a, into a cell and we're going to question. So I knew what

02:34:38.580 the game was. So I was like, okay, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to shave. I'm going

02:34:41.260 to clean myself up. I'm going to get some, I'm going to clean my hair up and I'm going to get

02:34:44.720 my girlfriend to mail me out one of my suits out here. I'm going to get a poppy on and everything.

02:34:48.340 And they're, you know, the jail accommodated me and like, yeah, you know, we'll search

02:34:51.260 you and everything and go through your stuff.

02:34:53.060 And then you just give it back.

02:34:54.080 Once you leave the, the appearance, they treat it like a court appearance.

02:34:56.680 Like you're allowed to, you know, if you have your own clothes and stuff to bring,

02:35:00.100 yeah, go ahead. 1.00

02:35:01.040 So I was like, well, I'm not going to sit here and look like a, look, an idiot, like 1.00

02:35:04.500 a fool, like some kind of broken, defeated, pathetic mess. 1.00

02:35:07.240 Right. 1.00

02:35:07.560 And like, like they wanted to like, no, no, I'm not, I'm not doing this.

02:35:10.620 So I did it that way.

02:35:11.620 And I was, uh, I was pleased with the result.

02:35:13.480 They didn't go nearly at, uh, happening as hard as I thought they were going to.

02:35:16.120 they kind of just um i think they kind of felt scared of it i'm not sure but it's good that

02:35:20.600 someone like you is in the position because had i been in that position i may very well be one day

02:35:26.060 it'd be very difficult for me to not ask my wife to do the same thing but say yeah you know what

02:35:31.600 send me a tuxedo you know what uh yes and the joker makeup too yeah well i have a few i've got

02:35:39.800 a fire i've just always been kind of into that stuff i have a little collection of suits and 0.71

02:35:44.060 ties and stuff here that i like to some of them are a little louder and more ridiculous than 0.99

02:35:47.380 others i have like a blood red one and you know just like asshole suits you know that you'd wear 0.97

02:35:52.040 at a party like who's that guy like you have to be kind of it was like i could but anyway i didn't

02:35:55.980 look like a lounge singer but this is actually what i wanted to get to because i was very curious

02:36:00.300 about the legal side of your story because to me uh the value of that is there's most and seeing

02:36:07.600 your the charter rights and freedoms or the rights afford to you completely trampled on

02:36:11.300 your situation is a situation i think a lot of men young and old could find themselves and if

02:36:17.480 they find the spotlight of the state on them and i was just wondering like what that was like from

02:36:22.140 your perspective what's it like in whatever way you can describe to have ceases after you to know

02:36:27.580 that you know and we'll get into like the the jail side of it in a second but yeah what was that

02:36:32.700 phenomena feel like okay i'm in the news now and there's a story that i can't control and now you

02:36:39.380 know washington knows my name and what's that like yeah well it started small um it kind of

02:36:45.660 came gradually it was like um you know getting into the into a pool you know first you put your

02:36:50.220 feet in and then you're up to your knees and then you're up to your waist and then you're up to the

02:36:53.240 shoulders and then you just go straight under the water um it was uh initially what i the first

02:36:58.760 thing i did that drew any attention i was totally ignorant to the to the fact that this whole war

02:37:04.200 is going on this whole culture war was happening i don't even know the military maybe not even a

02:37:08.840 year i don't think and i started doing uh started doing stuff online and youtube channel videos and

02:37:13.200 stuff and i was just and just so people know you were deployed in afghanistan i think you were in

02:37:17.500 the for 10 years was it or a little under 15 okay yeah so you're a very great history of being a

02:37:25.480 veteran um and so you're just you're not nobody i just wanted to establish that for people when

02:37:30.020 they hear you know in the military sorry continue i was uh yeah i was an nco in the infantry and i

02:37:35.180 did a short stint with a special forces unit briefly and uh i got out in 2017 and then came

02:37:42.320 back east and i just kind of and then retired to ford operating base living room couch and

02:37:46.800 didn't really know what to do with myself and started to i've always been pretty like kind of

02:37:50.960 an opinionated belligerent guy about things so i just started to i was like you know i'll take to

02:37:55.540 the internet and i actually watched um his own benjamin was talking to a bunch of people on his

02:38:00.000 laptop 5 000 people he had watching them and it was just a guy on a laptop there's no production

02:38:04.760 value whatsoever. And I was like, what's compelling about this is like, it's just a guy talking and

02:38:09.640 it's very relatable and it makes sense. It's like, I could easily do what he's doing. Why don't I do

02:38:13.460 that? That's something I could do. So I started doing that. And then, um, uh, Omar Cotter is a

02:38:19.200 kind of a figure in Canadian, I wouldn't say politics, but culture, I guess he was a long

02:38:25.780 story, you know, uh, taken to Guantanamo Bay, arrested, charged with a bunch of stuff. He

02:38:30.360 killed a couple of American soldiers with some grenades and was building IEDs and stuff with

02:38:34.360 his family over there anyway there he was you know his charter rights were wronged so he was given

02:38:40.020 um 10 and a half million dollars by the canadian state and then taken on a um kind of a like a

02:38:47.280 hero worship uh event and or yeah and i was really i didn't like this and nobody liked this everyone

02:38:53.880 was kind of upset about it and they uh it was as if the universe had challenged me i distinctly

02:38:59.500 remember this feeling like i was talking a lot of shit about this guy and to this point all i did 0.86

02:39:05.860 i was just a guy in the basement talking trash on my computer like you know so many other people 0.94

02:39:10.100 were doing and they said yeah well mark otter's doing a speaking tour and you know all this and

02:39:14.180 everybody's and it's going to be 15 minutes from where you live right now i was like well i guess

02:39:20.640 that's if that's not a call out from the galaxy i don't know what is so i'm gonna have to show up

02:39:25.640 to this i think so i went down there and i put my medals on and i said i'm gonna go and let and i

02:39:30.540 basically took on the whole city i yelled at everybody going in there and was like telling 0.90

02:39:34.720 me your disgrace you guys are disgusting i don't know how you do and you know that no one not not 0.97

02:39:39.500 one would challenge me no one would even look at me they'd look at their feet they'd look away some 1.00

02:39:42.900 people would turn to start to act like they were gonna you know give them a piece of give give me

02:39:47.440 a piece of their mind they'd look and saw the medals and then went nope and looked right down

02:39:50.420 at their feet they knew exactly what they were doing and they all felt shame and they all felt

02:39:53.900 guilt and they wouldn't uh couldn't say anything the next day sorry i know this is long-winded

02:39:58.540 no no that's good that's going to the belly of these that's like going to deaf comedy jam in a

02:40:02.600 grand wizard well antifa was tweeting at me saying oh we're gonna be there when you get there you're 0.82

02:40:07.620 gonna fucking get it then and i said fine i replied to them on twitter i was like i love a hot lz 0.95

02:40:12.160 let's go see you there and i got there and no one was there and no one said shit no one did anything 0.98

02:40:17.760 they just sat they just stood there and took it and i live streamed the whole thing they probably 0.82

02:40:21.480 thought lz meant lesbian yeah i know um one guy videoed uh kind of part of some of what i was

02:40:27.800 saying and it went viral and it had like six seven eight million views on social media in a few days

02:40:31.740 and within 24 hours 48 hours of that there was a whole hit piece on me by by these you know

02:40:38.280 trantifa freaks talking about uh you know there was stuff they would take out of context from

02:40:42.500 different podcasts and different channels and stuff at this point i had like 700 people on

02:40:45.920 youtube i was nothing and that disturbed i was like really shocked by that that they're on this

02:40:52.180 level of monitoring that that someone as small and inconsequential as myself would have a dossier

02:40:59.480 and and work done to do you know what i'm saying like this didn't this wasn't done as a response

02:41:04.960 to what i had done it was already pre-packaged and ready to go just in case yeah or they're

02:41:10.160 already working on it so it's like even as much i'm at this point i'm a retired canadian veteran

02:41:14.000 i've been out of the military a year maybe and i'm just voicing my opinion on the internet and

02:41:18.760 there's already you know pages and pages of like how much of a racist neo-nazi i am and all this

02:41:23.480 stuff so that was jar you know kind of shocking and then um other people kind of reached out to

02:41:28.660 me and were like yeah dude there's a whole collection of these freaks out there that

02:41:31.900 like you're in a war you don't even know exists so that's how it began and then then the anti-hate

02:41:37.060 network uh spun up as a result of those people and then you know went from that into more mainline

02:41:42.760 um um uh cbc and stuff like this and especially when i started getting arrested and stuff because

02:41:48.660 they like a good story they like a good it's a good clickbait story of a very dangerous i mean

02:41:53.160 you know it reads like a nice uh nice movie for these you know very scared scared of their own

02:41:58.400 shadow type leftist freaks to read it's unhinged military veteran combat veteran leads white

02:42:04.580 supremacist militia you know what i mean it's something like out of them it's perfect right

02:42:08.720 so they that's the story they spun and they ran with it and then the police read in in many of my

02:42:14.220 um uh in in the cases and stuff i'm in through through disclosure you can see that the police

02:42:19.100 rely on those media articles as intelligence so whatever they say that that must be what it is

02:42:24.900 because i read it in the news and they use they take that as fact and then base their investigations

02:42:28.720 based on what they read in the news which is just lazy and embarrassing this is what we tell people

02:42:34.160 all the time about starting NGOs,

02:42:36.360 non-government organizations. It's so

02:42:38.160 easy to get your bullshit 1.00

02:42:39.840 into the hands of politicians if you have 1.00

02:42:42.280 a registered NGO license

02:42:44.180 and a website.

02:42:46.000 If you look at Antifa Network, it's like a couple of 1.00

02:42:48.120 people in a fucking room 0.99

02:42:50.220 and then they just work hand-in-glove 1.00

02:42:52.240 with Antifa, who do a lot of

02:42:53.840 pseudo-journalistic research.

02:42:55.960 Like I said, they do have dossiers on people. We've seen it in the

02:42:58.120 US as well. They love handing

02:43:00.080 these packages off to whoever it might

02:43:02.220 be to inform them.

02:43:04.160 They seem to have handed me off to American organizations.

02:43:09.440 Some of the other guys have to remind me what it is, but there's basically the SPLC and some other more American-focused counterparts to the Anti-Hate Network.

02:43:17.260 They're the ones that are kind of watching us now and seem to be publishing things, which is interesting.

02:43:21.660 Well, and this is something I would caution people about because a lot of military men, I think, are those who are straight and those who are white and those who are male and in the military.

02:43:34.160 even if you your politics don't align completely with us to them you essentially are those are

02:43:42.420 four strikes against you and i think there was one interesting case recently you covered this

02:43:46.420 on your show so if you are a a white male in the military you almost to prove yourself as liberal

02:43:52.740 you need to almost go extra and so that's why there's that one like antifa who was that guy

02:43:57.740 you were covering like like a military guy an intelligence officer who was at like protesting

02:44:02.740 uh tranny thing remember that recently and it was a uh oh it was a few days ago he's a special

02:44:08.540 forces officer uh one of the commanders at one of our at our top at our most elite unit he's just

02:44:13.520 there participating in a political uh demonstration which is forbidden it's not supposed to be i mean

02:44:19.660 it isn't it's not tolerated or allowed in the canadian military but nothing's going to be done

02:44:23.040 with him they said i passed this off to several journalists who followed up on it and um true

02:44:28.760 North has written about it, and Rupa has written about it, and a few other people, Rupa Subramania,

02:44:32.800 a few people at True North. And, you know, they said the military

02:44:36.560 responded with, oh, he was just passing through. He was just there. He wasn't

02:44:40.880 participating. It's like, well, there's a video of him shouting and pointing at people and mocking

02:44:44.640 the protesters. Yeah. So, you know.

02:44:49.220 Kind of what I was getting at was, like, if you are just a white male military guy,

02:44:52.660 it's almost up to you to prove that you're not

02:44:56.860 far right like you are target you will have a dossier on you so it's almost like in this sense

02:45:01.920 for a lot of these guys your politics are decided for you unless you decide to this is why it's a

02:45:07.740 lot of you know we don't need to get too much into this side of things but like if you are a white

02:45:11.740 guy and you're a liberal you have that little dark thing in your mind that tells you i need to be

02:45:18.840 extra good to prove i'm not bad and and you there's certain people who will look at and say

02:45:23.900 why do i feel this way because you know that there's a checkbox somewhere that that you need

02:45:29.660 to prove yourself that you're not what they think you are or you are until you prove otherwise and

02:45:33.900 even then you're only you're only still an ally you have to prostrate yourself and say yes i'm 0.96

02:45:39.380 systemically racist and i have to decolonize my life and whiteness is a disease and like you have

02:45:44.560 to basically affirm all of these things with you know swearing one hand on the rainbow flag and 0.87

02:45:49.240 the other one on a copy of you know the talmud or something and it's like you you will hate yourself

02:45:54.960 you will say it out loud or else you're the enemy and it's like uh i can't it's crazy how many of

02:46:00.320 them are okay with that they're just um willing to go along with it especially in your case because

02:46:05.380 if you watch your content there's nothing egregious about it because i watch i've heard a lot of crazy

02:46:10.960 shit on the right there's all kinds of really extreme guys and yours isn't um and you could

02:46:17.260 put on your show show that show any of the rage cast to your family and then they're going to 0.98

02:46:21.140 love there's nothing kooky about it my family all watches it yeah not all the time but they they you

02:46:27.420 know they're aware i like to laugh they they try to paint me as like oh he's this bad i'm like

02:46:33.440 listen i'm the one keeping the really crazy guys from going nuts like if you think i'm the bad one 0.98

02:46:39.200 i'm the reasonable one yeah so so someone like you can still get pinned with all this other shit 0.89

02:46:45.080 But that's why I caution guys, like, be aware that, you know, there's a story being written about you, whether you like or not, and it's whether or not you decide to speak up, then the avalanche will follow you. 0.68

02:46:54.860 And I guess that leads to my next point.

02:46:57.460 And correct me if I'm wrong, you had posted that, I think you had lost your veterans benefits recently.

02:47:03.160 Was that correct?

02:47:04.520 Yeah.

02:47:04.720 So what happens with that is, yeah, people are, so there's, there's multiple parallel kind of agencies and contractors that handle a lot of your benefits.

02:47:13.520 It's not like you release and then this is what you're worth and you get one paycheck

02:47:17.940 from the government of Canada once a month, the end it's, you actually get paid from four

02:47:22.720 or five different.

02:47:23.520 So it depends on what, what you're covered for, what you're approved for and all these

02:47:26.560 different things.

02:47:27.260 There's veterans affairs, Canada.

02:47:28.980 There's the, um, uh, there's another insurance company.

02:47:33.620 Then there's a SISP life insurance, manual life.

02:47:35.940 There's a whole bunch of these different, um, places.

02:47:38.600 And, um, they, at the same time, I lost my bank account.

02:47:43.520 within the day or the next day, they called me and said, yeah, uh, we're doing a review of your

02:47:48.940 file and we're obligated to call you and tell you about that. And I said, okay, for what? Why? And

02:47:54.940 they're like, oh, we're just, this is just a review. We have to do a review. And they asked

02:47:58.840 me some basic questions like, yeah, okay. I knew what this was going to be. And then a couple months

02:48:04.220 later they called me back just whenever it was, I posted that and they said, yeah, so, uh, you no

02:48:08.500 longer qualify for all of these benefits so those are over now as of august 31st okay i said okay

02:48:16.280 thanks yeah so now i'm after august 31st i'm going to be living on my pension alone which is about

02:48:21.860 900 bucks a month so that's what's going to feed my family there's nothing you could do about this

02:48:27.100 there's no one you can call i guess you could like advocate to pick up call your mp or something but

02:48:31.880 well they don't care i'm i'm radioactive you know they said we stand for all canadians no that's

02:48:36.960 not true just the ones that are following the rules you don't care about me or my friends or 0.98

02:48:41.000 half the ones have killed themselves anyway they certainly don't give a shit about them 0.87

02:48:44.400 i'm gonna yeah i am in the process of dealing with this through veterans affair there's other 0.95

02:48:48.420 alternative ways i can get this covered and dealt with but it's just another it's more like it's

02:48:53.080 like blowing a tire on the highway it's not the end of the world but it's just something else you

02:48:57.480 got to deal with now and they may not they may deny it and they may say no you're not you don't

02:49:01.680 qualify and yeah live on 900 bucks a month that's it that's what your 15 years of service is worth

02:49:05.980 $900 a month.

02:49:07.500 So I don't know.

02:49:08.580 I was going to ask you, your experience, and this is probably a very broad topic, but there's a couple of questions I had on this.

02:49:14.080 Your experience in the military, would you say that there's a lot of other individuals who maybe share your ideas?

02:49:20.620 Is it a friendly place to someone with your political persuasion?

02:49:24.580 Or has it gotten a little less hopeful dealing with Veterans Affairs or anything like that?

02:49:30.640 Well, yeah, Veterans Affairs is a very, it's a giant liberal bureaucracy and is not conducive to help to much of anybody, but the military is, um, kind of, uh, uh, complex machine that I don't think, especially civilians understand.

02:49:48.120 And I mean, you know, why would you, why, how could you, um, but there is a huge, there's

02:49:52.680 a distinct difference between the combat troops and the support troops where culturally added

02:49:58.900 the attitude wise, like for example, when guys in the infantry where I came from, when

02:50:03.240 they want to, you know, retire without retiring, you know, it was like, okay, that's enough

02:50:07.480 hard work.

02:50:08.440 I want to just do a nine to five punch clock, you know, pretty relaxed, you know, desk job.

02:50:13.300 I'm going to join the air force.

02:50:14.620 I'm going to go to the Navy.

02:50:15.720 Like that's what, that's what they do.

02:50:16.660 they find some i'm gonna be a truck driver like i don't care and they kind of get away from a lot

02:50:20.600 of the actual like when people think of the army you think of a guy in a you know combat fatigues

02:50:25.060 and fighting order and a helmet in a hole somewhere throwing grenades at people but that's

02:50:28.520 only one percent of the army two percent two percent of the military you know like or less

02:50:33.240 the rest is uh desk jobs logistics people sending emails and you know fixing trucks and you know

02:50:39.060 stuff like this in in that um minority of the military that requires you know the fighting man

02:50:44.480 the warrior it's very much they're very right-wing culturally even if they don't subscribe to

02:50:49.220 politics it's just the way the lifestyle is and their values and you know teamwork and individual

02:50:53.880 you know um you know you're responsible for yourself you're accountable to your your team

02:50:57.860 and your unit and other guys and there's uh standards that can't be you know that must be

02:51:02.680 met and you know these kinds of things and always a pursuit of excellence and stuff like this and

02:51:07.360 your feelings don't fucking matter at all i mean the bag weighs 100 pounds put it on and get over 0.96

02:51:11.100 the hill i don't give a shit how much you cry about it you know that that's just it's there's 0.99

02:51:14.360 no time for that it's just reality you know the bullets don't discriminate enemy fire doesn't 0.98

02:51:18.060 discriminate so it's a meritocracy and it's um you know full of full of those kind of you know

02:51:24.240 hard charging war warrior mindset kind of guys the same kinds of guys that want to go and be

02:51:28.580 firemen and go be cops and go be you know these that's who they are that's what they're that cast

02:51:33.200 of society that's their role that's the kind of person they are and that's what they're for

02:51:36.360 so in that regard yeah it's pretty a lot of my initial support early on and after that omar

02:51:42.140 cotter thing i had thousands of emails and messages and facebook messages from people

02:51:46.640 that were still serving retired guys all over the place saying you know thank you for saying

02:51:50.480 what we're all thinking like because we can't while you're in the military you have no opinion

02:51:54.100 you're not supposed to and a lot of the guys you know it's being the quiet professional thing is

02:51:59.540 is pretty pumped and beaten into your head.

02:52:01.660 So it's kind of counter, um, intuitive or counter, uh, feels wrong in a sense to, to

02:52:08.260 start speaking out and having, you know, political opinions and to, you know, um, because you're

02:52:12.240 not supposed to.

02:52:12.900 And while you're in the military, that's kind of, you know, definitely dissuaded to a large

02:52:17.760 degree.

02:52:18.420 So do you think that there's a lot of ex-military or veterans who still have that?

02:52:22.420 And there's still even many, many years after leaving the military, they still have that

02:52:26.840 drilled in their head and don't want to speak up.

02:52:28.760 I to a degree I but things didn't used to be as polarized and crazy as they are now

02:52:33.900 so it then it becomes a question of because you signed up to serve the country and the people

02:52:39.660 like nobody I mean most people right even if you're a career infantry guy where it's like

02:52:45.860 why am I doing this to myself why am I suffering it's a hard job it's the hardest job I'm ever

02:52:50.660 going to have had and it's physically difficult emotionally spiritually just tough it's a tough

02:52:56.760 lifestyle and uh you know and it's not you don't get paid very much you know the average corporal

02:53:01.520 walking around is getting paid sixty thousand dollars you know it's not which these days 0.94

02:53:05.280 doesn't pay for shit you know and uh so what are you doing it for and it has to be it's like well 0.98

02:53:09.760 because i believe in i believe in service of the of the nation and our people and our interests and 0.99

02:53:13.740 this is what i'm for so that juxtaposed with if they retire or they're they're not retired or

02:53:20.460 they're just kind of starting to pay attention to the trend and the direction the country's heading

02:53:23.520 they start to question that and feel like this isn't what i'm this is not what i signed up to

02:53:28.340 defend and these aren't the values that it just doesn't match how this just doesn't fit and now

02:53:34.400 they're having a recruiting crisis they can't fill these units there's uh battalions now who are

02:53:38.840 supposed to be about 800 guys fielding 150 troops on parade like they're skeleton crews there's

02:53:44.140 nobody in there and there's no like we couldn't fight a war if we wanted to if we wanted to put

02:53:47.920 one division on the field of combat troops we couldn't do it they don't exist it's a it's a

02:53:52.220 walking dead shell of a thing it's a phantom it's a it's a joke honestly and our guys are paying for

02:53:58.060 their own equipment overseas now they're like having to get second and third jobs to try and

02:54:02.540 pay their rent like the whole thing is a mess and it's all it's been turned into a political

02:54:06.460 activism club because it can't do anything else all they just use the authority and the perceived

02:54:11.240 kind of prestige and authority of oh it's the military and the military is putting up trans

02:54:16.380 flags everywhere and signing on their emails and pronouns and it's been entirely ideologically

02:54:21.140 captured and now that seems to be the sole purpose for it to exist is to perpetuate these

02:54:25.600 these ideas and this attitude and then it's it's act while simultaneously purging actively purging

02:54:31.100 anyone that either is vocally against it or suspected to be against it and you're seeing

02:54:36.520 them getting and you saw them you saw them getting slapped with sexual assault charges and charges for

02:54:40.400 this and that and of course exonerated exonerated exonerated all but they've still lost their jobs

02:54:45.020 they're not getting them back so that was how they got away with the you know stalin type purge of

02:54:49.380 the senior ranks of the military they got rid of anybody that could have challenged for the top job

02:54:53.080 especially of chief of defense staff they went through like six or seven guys they got rid of

02:54:57.740 a whole bunch of generals the special forces commander the head of the intelligence school

02:55:02.360 admiral norman i mean they just went down the list and cut out everybody danny fortan they

02:55:06.600 got kind of got rid of everybody so is this sort of like an open secret in the military because

02:55:10.600 i'd never really heard this side of it before but there was sort of like a coup that occurred

02:55:14.620 it's i mean no one really it's not really talked about officially but yeah a lot of guys are

02:55:21.160 the couple that i that i know that are still in that are basically they feel like prisoners and

02:55:26.100 they can't escape but they have no like they don't know what to do um morale is incredibly low

02:55:30.800 and it's very just i saw a video today of a guy a uniform troop driving a five-ton truck with uh 0.94

02:55:37.020 fuck trudeau flags flying off the back of it you know they're just really another guy was um he 0.65

02:55:43.280 said that while drinking a beer on a jump somewhere in patawawa i don't know if you 0.99

02:55:46.280 ever saw that video he was a guy in the middle he's just you know shoot deployed and he's just

02:55:50.280 kind of coasting down to the ground he cracked a beer like he like they're just and and so that's

02:55:56.180 like kind of a symptom of a greater problem like that that some of these guys feel angry enough 0.89

02:56:00.660 and disenfranchised enough to say i don't give a shit i'm putting this on social media i don't 0.76

02:56:03.720 care if i get in trouble yeah that's a common enough story that i had heard from a lot of the 0.86

02:56:09.400 listeners of the show who are in the military even like when i was a teenager or uh in my early 20s

02:56:14.800 i think i'm around your age we're both you know 30 year old boomers yeah i'm 37 yeah i'm i'm 36

02:56:20.580 um so you know i don't know what these young people are talking about uh but uh there was a

02:56:27.240 like stories remember when i was younger of like canada had like three submarines and one of them

02:56:31.860 sunk due to just due to not non-maintenance like simple basic shit yeah and so i had like friends

02:56:38.340 in the military who were telling the same 0.95

02:56:40.300 stories and

02:56:41.820 I guess I had one question because there's this

02:56:44.220 one video, a very

02:56:46.140 very poignant video on your channel called

02:56:48.100 Helen Back that I recommend

02:56:50.180 everyone watch, look it up on YouTube

02:56:51.880 and this might sound like

02:56:54.460 a direct question but

02:56:55.820 to the young men out there

02:56:58.160 right now, would you recommend

02:57:00.400 joining the military or

02:57:02.260 going down the path that you had gone on

02:57:04.240 in its current state?

02:57:06.460 No, absolutely not.

02:57:08.340 All right. That's a good answer. And I like that because there's still a lot of people with, and this is the problem, that even when I was growing up, I got the sense that the Canadian military, especially their marketing and their advertising was trying to attract the wrong type of person.

02:57:26.340 the messaging was always look at all the free stuff you get uh but nothing about you know those

02:57:32.140 warrior minded people and those are really the people that you need um and it seems to have

02:57:37.740 turned against that and there's a very specific type of guy that is that and if you make it

02:57:42.940 openly hostile to them well then what do you have and so you know i i would i've never been

02:57:49.360 you know deployed or anything so sometimes someone in my position feels bad telling people what to do

02:57:55.040 about the military but from what i hear from the inside a lot of people are saying don't do it and

02:58:00.580 i just want to know if that was echoed well from i mean i definitely appreciate the um the discipline

02:58:07.620 and the like i mean i the experiences and stuff i got out there made me who i am so that i you know

02:58:13.620 i'm grateful for that um and it was definitely a plus in that sense however i mean i joined at a

02:58:18.940 time i joined when i was 17 years old and at that time we were just beginning this is 2003 you know

02:58:24.620 Iraq had just started. This is right off the heels of nine 11. I'm a kid, you know,

02:58:28.580 I don't know anything. I don't know what's going on. Um, I, even then I was suspicious. I'm like,

02:58:33.300 I don't, this whole thing sounds a little sketchy to me. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but

02:58:37.040 I'd been in love with the idea of the military since I was a kid, since I was 10, 11 years old.

02:58:41.720 That's all I ever wanted to do. It's all I ever thought I would do. It's when I was in there,

02:58:45.460 I was, couldn't be happier. It was all I, you know, this was, this was it for me. I was married

02:58:50.160 to it so um that became more difficult to do as time went on and you start to question things and

02:58:58.500 see things i mean there was you know war crimes that were going on that were getting covered up

02:59:02.100 we were ignoring all kinds of nonsense and and just a lot of hip hop like again it it's like

02:59:07.920 why are we doing this what is the purpose and it just became because we're told to and i'm like

02:59:12.280 that's not good enough for me i need to this war has to make sense because when i'm burying my

02:59:17.560 friends. And if I'm going to get killed and you know, my children and their mom is going to get

02:59:21.940 a flag in the mail, like there has to be a really good reason for that. And I can't find one. So 0.55

02:59:27.960 that means there's not a good reason. And that means this is not, this isn't worth my life

02:59:32.600 because I'm not, it's definitely not worth it for the money. And there's guys still dying. You know,

02:59:36.780 one of my best friends took his own life in September and this is just still, it's still

02:59:40.220 going on and in for what, and we just walked away and watched it all go to hell. And the people we

02:59:45.680 were fighting against are now more armed and well uh in better control of that country than

02:59:50.780 they've ever been so what was the point of that and the same people that sent us in there to do

02:59:54.480 that are now saying oh we got a slava ukraine now guys so we got to do that absolutely not

02:59:58.820 you didn't even fix the first mess you came in so i mean i can you know i'm not going to talk

03:00:04.040 about anything prior to my time in the military because i wasn't there for that i wasn't around

03:00:07.760 i wasn't alive i don't know but for this one i can and i can't you know in good faith say

03:00:12.980 oh yeah, join the military. So you can be an armed thug for a global banking establishment

03:00:17.420 that can go and crush the enemies of rich people. And maybe you'll get some pennies for it for your

03:00:21.800 trouble, but probably not. And then when you're no longer useful, you'll be discarded and abandoned

03:00:26.320 and spit on by the Canadian public. Does that sound fun? Yeah. And not to go too much into this,

03:00:31.520 but I really do must come back to the white male thing because it's, I see, I hear this a lot from

03:00:37.200 Americans too, because the American military is going through this as well, a staffing crisis

03:00:40.840 similarly but white guys do seem to be set up as the fall guy they are when you think military guy

03:00:47.260 you think white guy you don't think of the black female that they're trying to hire so it's always

03:00:51.300 like anyone has got to be thrown under the bus for any sort of military error it's going to be

03:00:57.020 the white guy regardless of whether or not they had anything to do with it so if the organization

03:01:03.740 itself is hostile to you as well as the outsiders it's like you're putting you're fighting this war

03:01:11.520 on every conceivable front then it's i mean the anti-white bias is definitely there and then

03:01:18.100 there's some guys were telling me if you're you know any of the better things than white you're 0.59

03:01:23.240 you know gay trans they'll pay for uh gender affirming care which is you know euphemism for 0.99

03:01:30.100 mutilation. They'll pay for your gender, your body to be disfigured and transformed into some 1.00

03:01:34.660 kind of $70,000 in the taxpayer's dime. Everybody signs their emails with they, them,

03:01:39.160 G's year, uh, trans flags, rainbow flags. I mean, this was never, this was unthinkable just a few

03:01:45.140 years ago. And now it's the unquestioned standard. And that's because the leadership has been purged

03:01:50.000 and anybody that would have been pushed, pushed back against this has been removed. So it's,

03:01:53.380 it's just, it's a political activism club now, and it can't do what its primary mandate is,

03:01:58.240 defend the country and defend our interests it can't do those things so why are we spending

03:02:01.940 billions of dollars i likened it to a chainsaw on my show a little while ago it was like if i

03:02:07.320 i'm gonna give you this chainsaw it's ten thousand dollars it's covered in rainbow stickers but

03:02:11.260 there's just one thing it can't uh actually saw anything do you still want it no you know it's

03:02:17.360 because what it's for is a chain is to is to cut trees it can't cut trees i don't want this thing

03:02:21.960 so if our military can't do what it's what we pay it to do why do we have it like the first and

03:02:27.380 foremost priority is defend our nation and its interests it can't do those things so we're going

03:02:31.320 to forego that in favor of drag queen story time on the base for all the and uh we're going to

03:02:36.920 we're going to send all of our weapons to ukraine we're going to pay for transgender surgeries in

03:02:41.580 haiti and you know sex education for like what are we doing this is a nightmare this is a complete

03:02:47.900 waste of time and it's like embarrassed and it's sad and it's painful to watch and it's like i

03:02:51.880 don't want to see something i loved like that be just humiliated and embarrassed i mean you've got

03:02:55.980 officers walking around in high heels like i'm gonna because we're a feminist now like this has

03:03:01.060 nothing to do with war fighting at all this is politics it's purely a humiliation ritual

03:03:06.880 it's politics it it seems beyond belief to me that there wouldn't be more uh military guys

03:03:14.420 you know of all stripes but probably from your persuasion who wouldn't think the same thing like

03:03:18.880 this would not be an unpopular opinion and they're not going to recruit this is why they're you know

03:03:23.960 we can, well, we don't have enough numbers. We can't get, there's an attrition crisis. Like

03:03:27.600 it's in the double digits. I don't, from the numbers I've seen and from what people have told

03:03:31.220 me that are still inside the machine or have connections to it, that I don't think it's

03:03:34.260 going to last two, two more years, two, three years. I think this thing's going to completely

03:03:37.060 collapse. And like, you're going to have units with no one in them. Like it's, it's bananas.

03:03:43.260 So in your, what does that look like? What does it look like when the staffing crisis has reached

03:03:48.640 critical mass and that happens? Like what does the next day of the military look like?

03:03:53.080 Well, I mean, they can pretend to keep this going for probably quite a long time, but it's going to look something like the Iraqi military.

03:03:59.760 It's just going to be very incompetent and inefficient, and everyone's going to be confused.

03:04:03.340 Nothing's going to get done properly.

03:04:04.700 There's going to be mistakes made all over the place.

03:04:06.400 There's going to be all kinds of logistical problems, supply problems, training problems, which leads to other follow-on problems.

03:04:13.040 You have people that aren't trained properly, operating equipment they don't understand.

03:04:16.560 They don't know how it works and isn't maintained properly.

03:04:18.700 It's just going to completely further and further degrade and be more and more humiliating.

03:04:22.160 And, you know, then you're then you're looking at people getting killed in training accidents and problems because this isn't a safe job to do and so on.

03:04:30.020 It's just going to keep getting worse and worse until they finally, you know, it's like weekend at Bernie's like it's time to put the doll down.

03:04:36.640 It's over. It's time to admit what we all know.

03:04:39.880 And this is not the same. This is not the Canadian military of 1992 or even 2002.

03:04:44.860 to. It's something else now. And it's nothing I would send into harm's way to fight anyone and

03:04:51.280 have any confidence that it can do the job. Yeah. And the fear is that it will increasingly

03:04:56.460 be deployed against domestic threats or what they deem to be domestic threats.

03:05:01.240 Yeah. On that side, I'm glad it is imploding. So that's one less thing to worry about. You

03:05:05.360 asked about CSIS earlier. I'm like, I'm glad it's them and not the FBI or the NSA. They're

03:05:09.960 far more capable and and competent and scary that ceases fairly seems at so far from the

03:05:15.560 amount of photographs i've had dozens of people send me pictures and business cards of these

03:05:19.780 people so they've never talked to me i've i've gone out of my i've emailed them i've written

03:05:24.840 them letters i've made videos and tagged them in it and i'm like what you guys doing you can come

03:05:29.260 talk to me anytime you want they never have they don't want to talk to me or anyone around me they

03:05:33.160 want to find people that they can try and get dirt on and try to find some kind of pressure point

03:05:37.920 they can use against me they contact they found one of my ex-girlfriends from over 10 years ago

03:05:41.620 to ask her what I'm up to and when the last time they saw me was and all this stuff and she's like

03:05:45.960 I haven't talked to him in seven years and she you know got a hold of me to tell me 0.76

03:05:49.580 is the funniest shit I have been I've been trolling them and I was gonna go to their

03:05:54.400 business or the yeah there's a location in the city where their headquarters is and 0.98

03:05:58.240 I drew a map to it and I posted soon you know and they all and they freaked out and they started

03:06:03.380 calling people like what does this mean is he planning an attack and I was like this is insane

03:06:07.340 The funny thing is, to all the American listeners, you don't get to bully the FBI. 1.00

03:06:11.560 We get to bully our stupid fucking fans. 1.00

03:06:13.740 Oh, yeah. 1.00

03:06:14.680 And they're mostly fat lesbians. 0.99

03:06:16.320 Like, that seems to be the average person. 0.98

03:06:18.680 Like, you'd think, you know, some mid-40s guy, you know, in a suit, you know, nice haircut, you know. 0.99

03:06:26.660 No, it's fat lesbians in, like, skater clothes. 0.96

03:06:30.280 Seems to be the average CSIS agent, which is. 0.97

03:06:33.720 This is something we talk about on our show, and it's one of the reasons we thought the trucker protest was able to be so successful was because the state apparatus in Canada actually is incompetent.

03:06:45.800 It doesn't have the infrastructure.

03:06:47.660 It would love to oppress you.

03:06:49.180 It just can't.

03:06:51.180 And there's been, you know, we have like leaks of like the RCMP wishing that they could arrest.

03:06:56.440 They don't have the bodies.

03:06:57.460 so you know there's opportunities that present themselves when we have an incompetent you know

03:07:03.880 federal yeah they're like the they're the they're the ralph wiggum of tyrants you know they're

03:07:08.180 the desire is there but the ability is not the funny thing is on the past couple episodes we had

03:07:14.200 um we reviewed a couple of books uh relevant to canada it's about the uh intrusion of the

03:07:20.100 communist party in canada and uh one thread you see throughout this is that ceases keeps

03:07:26.120 embarrassing itself that you you have because we're a member of the five eyes organization

03:07:30.700 so you have australia america coming to canada and saying look we found that there's triads in

03:07:38.780 running brampton are you not looking at this and like they like we have our finger off the pulse

03:07:44.320 we keep getting caught with our pants down i don't think they really take us seriously they

03:07:48.500 might even see ceases as a liability at this point they certainly definitely do i know that for a

03:07:53.140 They have, from their own admission, I mean, during that POEC you mentioned earlier, and I was very happy that I got to say the only one thing I wanted to say, which was, you know, and, you know, the lawyer kind of set me up for this.

03:08:05.220 He's like, do you have anything to say about what's happened?

03:08:06.800 I said, this is the single greatest intelligence failure in national history is what this is for these people to think that, oh, this is a serious threat.

03:08:14.360 There's serious threats everywhere, but none of them have been identified by CSIS. 1.00

03:08:17.260 They're completely incompetent and inept and useless. 0.99

03:08:19.340 So are the RCMP. 1.00

03:08:20.840 They had a slide, like just for example, one of the things, like one of their stellar big brain evidence pieces they had was a quote from me saying, see you on the beach.

03:08:31.800 And then they said, this is a reference to the invasion of Normandy because McKenzie's planning an attack.

03:08:37.440 No, this is from one of my favorite movies, Saving Private Ryan.

03:08:40.720 I think it's an outstanding film.

03:08:42.320 and uh the the character you're referring to um says this as the as the company commander

03:08:49.060 on the landing craft to reassure his men that when the ramp goes down and we hit the beach

03:08:53.560 and as scary and crazy as it'll be i will be there with you and we will face this together

03:08:57.300 that was the that's called a metaphor ceases right like i'm trying to you know impart kind

03:09:01.580 of a feeling and emotion to people to let them know that you know we're gonna we're gonna all

03:09:05.400 be you know whatever happens we're gonna do it together is this i know i know it's hard for them 0.97

03:09:09.120 to understand these concepts because they're very stupid but i got to explain that to them and 0.98

03:09:13.180 they thought that was it also was funny because even if you wanted to be a bit more of a bully 0.99

03:09:17.780 you could say like uh that was a quote from the guys who were going to stop the nazis so 0.97

03:09:24.180 um actually yeah actually bro yeah they're they're foolish but i got to say sorry we're from the side 0.87

03:09:31.920 that was going to stop the holocaust maybe you don't want to stop the holocaust like just really 1.00

03:09:38.080 just be a piece of shit this is why i shouldn't be in there i would immediately be a piece of 1.00

03:09:42.800 shit they're they're a politically captured institution they're not a security agency 1.00

03:09:46.760 they're the stasi they're just they're just there to quell public dissent and keep an eye on the 0.93

03:09:50.940 population they're not paying attention to anything else they don't care if the triads 0.98

03:09:53.780 take over toronto they don't give a shit about that they care about me 50 by their own admission

03:09:58.140 50 of their domestic budget so half the budget that cesis has in canada is has been allocated 0.79

03:10:05.640 to what's called IMVEs,

03:10:07.800 Ideologically Motivated Violent Extremists,

03:10:10.080 which is me. 0.98

03:10:11.760 That's so fucking funny. 0.87

03:10:13.380 50% of CSIS's resources are dedicated 0.97

03:10:15.920 to me and my friends and our supporters.

03:10:18.300 Yeah, because really, who else would it be?

03:10:20.760 Unless they're going after True North News

03:10:22.980 or Rebel Media or something.

03:10:24.520 Exactly.

03:10:25.140 Well, you've got characters like Barbara Perry, 0.98

03:10:27.020 this big, fat, disgusting creature 0.98

03:10:28.480 that says she's an expert on hate groups, 0.99

03:10:31.880 and there's over 300 hate groups in Canada.

03:10:34.200 the list has never been seen by anyone

03:10:36.660 because she just made this up

03:10:38.020 and I think the list is just me

03:10:40.240 and my friends essentially

03:10:42.200 daggle on people

03:10:43.000 and she's probably counting like meme pages

03:10:44.640 that just repost daggle on stuff too

03:10:47.320 and that was, you're right

03:10:48.560 and that was the gag

03:10:50.220 or the joke I said at the time

03:10:51.660 like it's probably like two guys

03:10:53.020 playing Call of Duty

03:10:53.940 with like a Waffen SS tag

03:10:55.900 you know, like we're a gamer clan

03:10:57.740 you know, on the internet

03:10:58.660 like that's probably a hate group

03:11:00.100 here's a meme page

03:11:01.560 that shared something about honk honk 0.59

03:11:03.340 that's a hate group uh you know like just completely ridiculous and that's why you know 0.59

03:11:08.200 no one has seen it they just take your word for it and when i was watching these senators say 1.00

03:11:11.580 these things one of them this another big dumb there's a we have a serious pandemic of big dumb 1.00

03:11:15.920 fat entitled liberal white women that just think they know everything i think that has to be put 1.00

03:11:20.260 to bed before we could fix anything but she's sitting there the senator and she said oh this 0.99

03:11:24.880 is not my first rodeo i've seen this before and let me tell you this is a serious threat these

03:11:29.160 diagonal people they're they're going to build an ethno state and they're going to do all these

03:11:32.620 things i'm like so you're just so you've just confirmed to me that you're just a talking head

03:11:37.180 that just reads whatever's in front of you don't you so that's our senators that's our government

03:11:41.160 and that's what i mean when i say i know that though and anyone else that isn't me can only

03:11:45.980 you know speculate or say well i mean i guess but it's my life and i know this for a fact they have

03:11:50.920 no idea what they're doing they're just reading what's put in front of them none of them are

03:11:54.520 they're just stooges it's embarrassing we talked about this on the show before because i've had

03:11:59.180 some dealings with like anti-hate groups anti-extremist groups and i've been privy to like

03:12:04.000 their email chains and when i'm like yeah people need to understand how little research they do

03:12:09.240 a lot of the time it's just reading twitter yeah oh yeah there's tweets in my uh you know

03:12:14.920 disclosure packages with the police and stuff like that's that's evidence um one of them tried to say

03:12:20.160 this at a bail hearing i had that uh he's he's uh he's got a restraining order against him from his

03:12:25.480 his old you know wife and kids they don't want to see him and they're hiding from him and blah

03:12:29.080 blah blah this was a tweet someone made up and it was introduced as evidence that the crown attorney

03:12:33.580 was like oh yeah that's that's legit that a judge was like oh okay has to consider this i'm like this

03:12:38.880 this is the state of canada now really we're just oh i read it on twitter so it must be true

03:12:44.500 of course it's not true but it doesn't stop them from doing what they do so i mean this whole place

03:12:48.780 is just a carnival i want to hijack this system and get our guys some jobs like there's got to be

03:12:52.780 a job we can craft where we like just trade back retarded memes because people you got to understand 0.98

03:12:58.560 you are on a fat woman's list 0.98

03:13:01.720 if you have produced a meme 0.99

03:13:03.360 where Garfield's girlfriend

03:13:05.660 is wearing a Woffin SS hat

03:13:08.020 and then you're a group

03:13:09.380 but there's got to be something we can do

03:13:11.460 where you get government funding

03:13:12.520 I found an Antifa meme

03:13:15.040 you can get $300,000

03:13:18.060 from someone

03:13:19.300 if we go after lefty extremists

03:13:22.420 I want to get our guys paid

03:13:25.340 well you can't do that

03:13:26.580 if you want to be a judge

03:13:28.160 That's not going to happen because you need to be vaccinated to go to law school now.

03:13:31.100 So that's kind of a problem.

03:13:32.700 Yeah, that didn't go away for everybody, did it?

03:13:35.900 No, it's still in place.

03:13:37.160 In Nova Scotia, you still can't work for the government if you're not vaccinated.

03:13:40.500 Really?

03:13:41.080 And there's been some talk about a lot of private organizations pushing back against all the pride stuff this year and not changing their logos, not having flags up.

03:13:50.960 but i really think the last stand of that and the people who are doubling down or anything

03:13:55.480 government related anything state related they like put up more trans flags when like companies

03:14:01.040 stopped doing it so yeah they are the ones who are like for no i think like even like the biden 0.98

03:14:06.380 administration or something reintroduced masks like weird shit like weird shit's happening for 0.98

03:14:11.280 no reason it's just falling apart everything's falling apart everywhere you look and it's just 0.97

03:14:15.860 a matter of time i've been trying to you know suggest to people like um obviously the more

03:14:21.000 self-sufficient you can be the better i mean down to like getting your own water because i mean

03:14:26.240 where do they draw the line they try to stop people from going to grocery stores in new

03:14:30.320 brunswick well you heard the story and someone can fact check me if this is fake but i've seen

03:14:36.400 enough people talking about it where there was like an amazon smart home that was shut down

03:14:42.620 remotely because something was mistaken for a racist word.

03:14:46.620 It sounds like it could be one of those, I could be duped by a bad meme,

03:14:50.360 but this is something that could happen.

03:14:52.280 You could have your resources shut off.

03:14:54.900 Hate speech.

03:14:56.580 If they can take it from you, they will.

03:14:59.180 So you have to put yourself in a position where if there is things they can

03:15:03.140 take from you, that you can live without it.

03:15:05.720 You know what I mean?

03:15:06.060 I always recommend people, as long as you know what their motivations are,

03:15:10.440 you can plan for it.

03:15:11.100 Like there, it's some, it's easy to forget some of the big problems living on the horizon,

03:15:16.500 but potable water is a big problem that I think a lot of people are forgetting about.

03:15:21.420 Like you need to, you, if not you, then your children will need to answer the question,

03:15:26.300 where is the safe drinking water coming from?

03:15:29.100 And it's good to plan for that.

03:15:31.000 And you know, it's good to plan for that because in governments that have stronger control

03:15:34.920 that are anti you, they're trying to prevent you from gathering rainwater.

03:15:38.780 So that's how you know it's important.

03:15:39.620 yeah i had one water yeah exactly i had one question for you um and you know feel free to 0.97

03:15:47.960 you know tell me to go fuck myself but i was listening to uh your appearance on uh with joel 0.87

03:15:53.340 davis i recommend people go listen go to joel davis's channel um i promise i'm not copying 0.98

03:15:59.020 but you did you mentioned something interesting there and and on this episode interview right now

03:16:04.800 where your time uh in jail uh you there was indigenous gangs you were in a hostile environment

03:16:11.840 and this is something i'm very very interested in once again because there's a lot of young guys

03:16:16.600 who might find themselves in this situation for something they didn't even do whatever might be

03:16:21.200 you're thrown into the lion's den i was wondering are there any anything people should be prepared

03:16:27.720 for if they find yourself in this situation is there any any things that you encountered that

03:16:32.100 you didn't think you'd encounter like how disproportionate were the indigenous gangs

03:16:37.240 gunning for you versus you and things like that um it's relatively i mean it wasn't that bad for

03:16:44.680 me it was kind of kind of similar to the military in a lot of ways actually um you know it's kind of

03:16:50.860 a high you know aggressive environment to kind of a jungle you know where there's a packing order

03:16:56.880 and that kind of thing and um you don't want to be going into an environment like that if you're

03:17:02.660 a really soft um person if you don't know how to fight or have never been in a fight or you know

03:17:09.040 they're going to take advantage of you they're going to lean on you and they're going to hurt 0.99

03:17:11.320 you and they're going to fuck with you for sure um and so that i had a little bit of help that way 0.99

03:17:16.440 wasn't as bad but um it wasn't so bad i don't think they would have noticed or cared it was 0.99

03:17:21.680 the fact that it was being published in the, in the newspapers and on the news every other day

03:17:26.520 for weeks. Um, so everybody in that jail knew who I was and there's not a lot to do in jail.

03:17:31.480 You know, so when there's like a semi infamous, uh, terror, white supremacist terrorist that comes

03:17:37.120 to your jail, everybody's like, you know, Ooh, interesting. Right. And, and if you've, your jail 0.87

03:17:41.340 is 98% native, uh, gang members who have been told for the last, you know, however many years

03:17:46.540 that, uh, you know, the, these people have genocided all the natives and the residential

03:17:50.920 schools and all this stuff is going on right they think all white people are inherently racist

03:17:54.600 they were reading white fragility and critical race theory in the jail this was being given to

03:17:59.240 them which is for people who don't know that is a book that says two things one that white people 0.95

03:18:04.460 are weak and two they deserve to be attacked yeah they they have it coming so you're basically 1.00

03:18:10.440 morally encouraged to fuck with them and attack them and this kind of thing but um ironic actually 1.00

03:18:16.120 I ended up, um, at one stage, they, I had, I had moved around a couple of times because 0.99

03:18:21.020 of, uh, fights.

03:18:21.900 And, uh, one time I didn't want to, there were COVID testing people and I refused to

03:18:25.720 do it.

03:18:26.020 So they put me in solitary for a week and stuff like, yeah, it's punishment.

03:18:29.540 Right.

03:18:29.880 And they're like, oh no, we have to isolate you then.

03:18:31.680 Like, no, it's just a punishment.

03:18:33.100 And then, yeah, they put me in solitary.

03:18:34.560 What was the rebellion rate against COVID stuff in prison?

03:18:38.620 Oh, zero.

03:18:40.360 Really?

03:18:40.980 Zero.

03:18:41.500 Oh, I couldn't believe it.

03:18:42.400 So that was the other thing that you think like a lot of these guys are, you know, they're

03:18:45.800 hardened criminals they've got hundreds of convictions and stuff some of these guys but 0.99

03:18:48.820 a lot of them were just huge punks like just fairy loser pussy you know like one-on-one and 0.99

03:18:55.760 like none of them will fight one-on-one and i tried a couple of times you know they were trying 1.00

03:18:59.320 to fuck around and i was like let's go then fatty you know or this guy or that guy and they 0.93

03:19:02.940 what they will do though is try and swarm you when you know and they'll get five or six guys 0.99

03:19:07.180 to stop you like that's what they'll do they won't fight you one-on-one so there's not a lot 0.93

03:19:10.000 of honor there it's very chicken shit kind of stuff and i called on a whole range at one point 0.97

03:19:14.800 it's like well who's who's gonna do it let's go you guys are gonna stab me let's see it let's 0.96

03:19:18.440 see what happened nobody would say anything or you know the guards ended up removing me because

03:19:22.260 they're like they're gonna kill you in your sleep or something right like you're not gonna be able

03:19:25.580 to fight them all but i just wanted to i knew that right i wanted to make a point i wanted to

03:19:29.360 make them feel small you know like i'm gonna stand here right here i'm not going anywhere who's gonna

03:19:33.480 who's who's got the stones nobody did like they're good that's what i thought and i said that 0.97

03:19:37.540 that's what i thought you fucking cowards right i'm reminded of um i'm not a huge fan of this 0.95

03:19:42.820 individual anymore but i'm reminded of tommy robinson sort of at the peak where he was 0.98

03:19:48.060 protesting against all the muslim extremism whatnot arrested thrown into a jail almost

03:19:53.640 specifically chosen where he's a minority they wanted him dead for sure yeah and he did the

03:19:59.280 same thing he had to take on like a room full of guys and my fear is that you know i'm not saying

03:20:05.240 that's what happened to you but like why not why wouldn't that be the case why wouldn't they be

03:20:08.880 like oh let's get rid of this guys throw him in with and pass books around about how he should

03:20:14.380 die if if they know if they know you'll fight and you mean it it's not like hot air and you're just

03:20:19.360 trying to posture so people leave you alone or something if they know you'll you know i was i 0.99

03:20:24.200 was super angry to even be there in the first place because the whole thing was nonsense and

03:20:27.820 you know i've been dragged across the country in ankle chains and wrist chains and barely on a on

03:20:32.200 a plane that the police sent for their own officers probably cost a million dollars just 0.97

03:20:35.940 to bring me there for some stupid nonsense um so i was angry anyway i was just not seeing straight 0.99

03:20:43.260 and you know i was like i'll fucking kill you it's all i don't care you know i was mad um but i ended 0.98

03:20:48.540 up uh they put me in this other range where it was all gang members and it was like um it was 0.97

03:20:53.080 the worst one it was considered that was where they put me initially and then i refused the

03:20:56.720 covid test they moved me these other ones and i had some fights and you know and those and then

03:21:00.380 eventually they're like well what are we gonna we're gonna have to move you but we don't know

03:21:04.480 to put you and we can put you in protective custody which you don't want to go there that's 0.98

03:21:07.840 where all the pedophiles and rapists and you know cops and you know freaks and psychos that scream 0.98

03:21:12.560 all day with mental issues and stuff like it's a nightmare right you don't want to go there 0.98

03:21:15.700 so i'm like no i don't want to go there and then i said uh well i don't know what do you want to do

03:21:20.680 i said put me back in the the first range i was on which was all the all the worst guys you know

03:21:25.500 which was the chillest one and they were like you don't want to go over there there are animals in

03:21:28.900 there i said that's i was like i got along fine with them somehow uh it was funny that um the

03:21:34.740 first guy i talked to over there uh he's another white guy there was only like four of them in the

03:21:38.760 whole jail and he was one of them and uh he was i was talking to him and he's like oh you're the

03:21:43.040 guy from the news and stuff i said yeah that's me he's like okay like he thought it was funny

03:21:46.540 and he's like that's funny he's like well do you want a couple days bad weather so we couldn't go

03:21:51.200 out to the range and where you got the exercise equipment stuff and then it was a nice day he's

03:21:54.820 yeah you want to come out just sure yeah i'm coming out to the range to lift weights and

03:21:58.320 stuff he's like sure so we go over there and he pulls off his sweater to like start we're gonna

03:22:02.600 start lifting his stuff and he's covered in swastika tattoos i mean i don't mean one or two

03:22:09.160 i mean he looks like he made derrick vineyard look like a lightweight like this guy's covered

03:22:12.980 in swastikas white power tattoos like an easily too many swastikas one is one says what you need

03:22:19.740 to say with it you know the lightning bolts every it was crazy well i'd first talked to him because

03:22:24.800 he had a one percenter tattoo on his neck. So I knew he was a, uh, uh,

03:22:27.920 club guy, a motorist, like one of the hell's angels or something. Right.

03:22:30.420 So I kind of talked to him with that and that's how we kind of connected.

03:22:34.320 And cause I, I ride bikes and stuff and I know a couple of those guys,

03:22:36.500 but it's not really my world, but I was like, well, I mean,

03:22:39.680 I might as well talk to this guy. Right. And then he gets,

03:22:41.900 he's covered in swastikas and all of this. And then, uh,

03:22:46.280 some of the other guys, we had, there was,

03:22:48.060 there was a good crew in there anyway. We could, we could,

03:22:49.840 we all got along pretty well.

03:22:51.080 I do have had the experience where there's a guy covered in swastika face

03:22:54.460 tattoos it goes big fan of your show yeah right and i was like um i was like of course you know

03:23:01.500 i started laughing and then he he the other guy his name was jamie and he said uh i can't be he's

03:23:05.700 like oh don't make sure we don't get any pictures taken together it's gonna be bad for my reputation

03:23:08.820 being seen next with you i was gonna be bad for his reputation let me ask you this and this might

03:23:14.740 be too big of a question but like how was the environment with like the guards and everything

03:23:20.300 like was there an understanding yeah yeah they were pretty sympathetic actually a lot of them

03:23:25.160 knew who i was and some of them had followed the podcast and stuff and they were just like shaking

03:23:29.300 like what can they do you know they're just like anything i can help you with let me know but i

03:23:32.900 mean i'm limited i was like you could bust me out of here and they're like yeah no i can't do that

03:23:36.560 but uh there was a couple they were pretty good actually there was a couple that were kind of 0.91

03:23:40.860 dicks but it would be cool if you did like a trailer park boys thing where you get like a 0.51

03:23:44.440 hockey you know game going and yeah it was kind of fun actually like well i mean you make your own

03:23:51.180 fun you're in jail but i'd slept through i had to put earplugs in because it was just mayhem in

03:23:55.280 there and like that range was just out of control all the time like guys they're like smoking meth

03:23:58.960 in there and they're just like trashing the place all the time and they're getting drunk all the

03:24:03.140 time they're making their own booze and side did under the bunks and stuff and it was just

03:24:07.320 it was chaos you know it was kind of it was kind of funny like that because you hear about that

03:24:12.700 but you never know how much of that is you know you know there is fiction oh man no it's not a

03:24:18.180 lot of about there were people tattooing each other's faces right there in the hall you know

03:24:21.740 hallway you know and the and the guards just stay in the bubble because it's like it's not worth it

03:24:26.000 if you go in there like it's going to be a nightmare and they might fight you and then it's

03:24:29.140 dangerous and it's like unless somebody's getting killed we're not going in there like they don't

03:24:32.400 really come in too often and that was kind of the notorious range for like the problem children and

03:24:36.820 the like i'm sitting there eating lunch and i'm on rematch i've never been convicted of anything

03:24:40.140 i haven't had a day in court and i'm sitting there eating my food or whatever and the guy

03:24:43.380 right of me just did 10 years in the penitentiary for a murder and the guy on the left of me has

03:24:47.200 been he's looking at you know the same and i'm like okay so like there's no separation you don't

03:24:53.320 go to a special not quite in jail yet remand center which is how it's supposed to be they're

03:24:58.140 building one now i guess but um 60 of the people in the jail run remand all pretty much near all

03:25:04.060 of them had you know criminal records and many of them were in for for crazy stuff and yeah there

03:25:08.200 was murderers in there and there was everything you could find in there human traffic or like it

03:25:12.120 was not a uh but you know we're all in jail together so the idea you know it's it's known

03:25:18.140 that it's kind of got its own culture right it's like there's no reason to make this worse than

03:25:21.500 it needs to be so everyone's kind of chill and just unless you're you know egregiously like

03:25:26.720 they don't put up with uh like if you're a sex criminal a rapist or anything like that or a cop

03:25:30.460 or something like this then you're gonna get you know checked off is what they call it where they 0.99

03:25:33.820 just force you off the range one way or another they're gonna beat you off or they're gonna kill

03:25:37.540 you or something you're going to choose to leave on your own but um outside of that as long as

03:25:42.440 you're kind of cool and you kind of fit in with everybody you don't cause any problems you know

03:25:45.820 you you clean yourself you don't stink you know you take you clean up your area you're not uh

03:25:51.460 you're not a problem you're not making anything worse for anybody then it's fine but you know

03:25:55.240 those tensions are obviously you know nobody likes to be in there and the jail is actually

03:25:59.000 worse than the penitentiary i was told they said down there you can wear your own clothes you've

03:26:03.040 got tvs in your cell because it's like you're that's what they say forever the jail is like

03:26:07.580 a mishmash you get like some of the nobodies and then the worst while they're waiting together yeah

03:26:12.960 yeah and it's kind of a it's kind of messed up that way but i guess the pen is a lot because

03:26:17.680 you're going to be there for 10 years right or any at least two years is the minimum to go down

03:26:21.120 the penitentiary so they make it as comfortable like to prevent people from freaking out and

03:26:24.700 killing each other and like right you want to keep them as as comfortable as possible within

03:26:29.800 reason so that it minimizes the chance that somebody's going to have a reason to freak out

03:26:34.040 and you know do something crazy now just so people know i'm not trying to do a ricky here and talk

03:26:38.020 about how awesome jail is but we are saying that everyone's chilling there's free meth and booze

03:26:43.440 there well it's not free there's nothing free in jail that's another thing you should hang on to

03:26:47.540 everything you get a hold of but yeah they were smuggling method guys you know as you do yeah

03:26:51.640 somebody would throw it over the fence they pick it up in the yard and somebody's smuggling in 0.99

03:26:54.460 through his asshole and then they're smoking meth in the bathroom i'm going in there i'm trying to 0.99

03:26:58.180 brush my teeth and i'm like what is that smell you guys smoking meth in here and they'd be like 1.00

03:27:01.420 yeah like all right whatever brushing my teeth didn't even need to put it in his asshole it was 1.00

03:27:06.800 already in he just put it on the way to the washroom yeah it's in here and they're snorting 0.99

03:27:13.800 pills and medication you know the doctor comes and gives everybody their meds and stuff and they

03:27:17.300 know what to say to get what like oh you want these pills you want those pills say this say

03:27:21.080 that and then they trade them back and forth and they're crushing them up and snorting them off

03:27:24.120 with dinner plates and tattooing each other's faces and yeah you know what this will sound

03:27:30.200 kind of crazy but given the way drug laws are changing in canada i do wonder if at some point

03:27:36.840 you'll be able to just buy drugs at the canteen you know you won't be able to booze but like

03:27:42.740 considering the way it's you know what i mean right like why not it can be medicinal heroin

03:27:47.820 yeah well that you could buy that's what you have to live on the food i will say this the

03:27:53.280 food out there was terrible like this company that we had at that jail and in most of those

03:27:57.800 jails i guess in western canada or saskatchewan anyways i can't remember the name of the company

03:28:01.060 now but i asked uh my girlfriend some other people to look it up and they've been in court

03:28:05.020 for feeding people like horse meat and dogs and stuff really so oh yeah the food quality was just

03:28:10.700 absolutely horrible compared to out east because i did about 10 days in in jail uh in halifax a

03:28:16.120 couple of times five days and six days for two different things in solitary there too but they've

03:28:21.240 The food was like, I'd say it was like the army when I was in.

03:28:23.520 It's not great.

03:28:24.440 It's not like, I can't wait to get the jail food, you know.

03:28:27.700 But it was, there was no, I had no complaints about it.

03:28:30.300 It was perfectly fine.

03:28:31.340 It was pretty good.

03:28:31.860 And you'd had more than enough to eat.

03:28:33.380 You go out to Saskatchewan and it's like, here's four pieces of lettuce.

03:28:37.960 Here's half a cherry tomato and half of a carrot. 1.00

03:28:40.700 Go fuck yourself. 1.00

03:28:41.680 Like, that's all they give you. 1.00

03:28:43.080 It was terrible.

03:28:43.860 Here's a meat cube that may or may not be Chinese political prisoners.

03:28:47.200 Here's, you know, it was crazy.

03:28:49.160 I was like, are you guys in there?

03:28:50.120 like yeah we just and everybody loses weight so they're all i i gamed it out to be oatmeal packets

03:28:56.160 uh protein shakes and mr noodles was the was the most calorie dense protein high

03:29:02.400 um food like bang for your buck dollar to dollar wise you can only spend a hundred dollars a week

03:29:06.920 on the canteen it's the most you're allowed to spend so you can't really stock up on too much

03:29:10.520 and you can only and so i'm like replying people's letters i was getting lots of mail and that's a

03:29:15.360 dollar 50 a letter so that's i was getting they make you pay for the letters oh yeah oh yeah you

03:29:20.860 gotta they're a dollar 50 a piece so you want to send 10 letters it's 15 so that's 15 of your

03:29:25.440 budget for the week sent on letters right so if anyone's mailing you they better mail some money

03:29:30.120 with it or can they not yeah well fortunately and that's part of the you know thing about being a

03:29:34.160 famous terrorist is that a lot of people did send me money so i didn't have any canteen problems i

03:29:38.500 had more than enough money but you can only spend a hundred bucks at a time right so it's not like

03:29:42.100 it's well it's good you have the money because like of the menu it's either a horse or chinaman

03:29:45.800 pretty much yeah so i was really relying on that yeah and you know candy bars sometimes and stuff

03:29:51.360 but mostly yeah protein shakes and oatmeal packages and and uh mr noodles i lived on and

03:29:57.280 actually and pop tarts and uh when i got out i bought some at the grocery store and i just kind

03:30:02.380 of had a little snack drawer of it now it's uh like my jail food i'm institutionalized i've been

03:30:09.100 I was inside for too long.

03:30:10.920 It's not even three months.

03:30:13.480 But I'm just, that's the joke, right?

03:30:15.720 It's like, I just, I can't even adapt to the real world anymore.

03:30:18.360 I only know how to do jail.

03:30:20.040 I am confident that you're never going to have to experience that again.

03:30:23.740 Because I know you were saying that you still have some legal issues.

03:30:28.600 Oh, yeah.

03:30:29.580 Oh, I'm fighting five cases.

03:30:31.020 I'm not worried about any of them.

03:30:33.540 Because again, like they have to prove what they're saying.

03:30:36.060 The charges against me, they have to be proven in court as true.

03:30:39.100 which they're not true. So they can't prove them to be true. And I've got ample evidence to support

03:30:44.940 this. But unfortunately, the process is the punishment, as they say. And in the meantime,

03:30:49.140 you're going to have to go through all of this bullshit and suffering. And if it wasn't for the 0.99

03:30:53.360 lawyers that I got ahold of and fell ass backwards into some of the best lawyers in Toronto,

03:30:59.100 I'd probably still be in there because they had no intention of letting me out. And it was going

03:31:02.200 to take somebody uh fairly skilled and um fairly skilled to pull up pull that off to get because

03:31:10.740 i've already been denied bail i have no criminal record i nothing like that but they denied bail

03:31:15.320 anyway which is rare you know it's not it's not often that happens but they're like all all the

03:31:20.640 anti-hate articles he's too dangerous to be kept alive and let outside so that's another thing for

03:31:25.520 people to notice that um the anti-hate if you have the machine of this not even the government

03:31:31.840 just this sort of NGO point at you,

03:31:34.100 it could affect you in other ways.

03:31:35.960 You don't think about like,

03:31:36.780 oh,

03:31:37.300 whether or not you get bail.

03:31:39.000 If there's nothing written about you.

03:31:41.180 Yeah.

03:31:41.320 They just,

03:31:41.760 I,

03:31:41.960 and again,

03:31:42.240 me being naive is like,

03:31:43.240 oh,

03:31:43.380 well that,

03:31:43.680 that's not gonna,

03:31:44.780 I mean,

03:31:45.100 if I'm a judge,

03:31:45.800 right.

03:31:45.980 I'm not going to be like,

03:31:46.600 oh,

03:31:46.800 some smear mag wrote a thing.

03:31:48.640 Like that's not,

03:31:49.720 I'm not even going to consider that because that's just somebody's opinion.

03:31:52.340 That doesn't mean anything.

03:31:53.340 That's not a fact,

03:31:54.280 right.

03:31:54.460 That's not a,

03:31:55.200 but no,

03:31:55.640 they,

03:31:55.860 they do.

03:31:56.280 And that is what they used.

03:31:57.200 And,

03:31:57.380 you know,

03:31:57.560 clips out of context of you know me from three years ago saying this kind of stuff so they were

03:32:01.680 like we can say these people are all blowing smoke but for a lot of big decision makers in society

03:32:07.640 they just say well where there's smoke there's fire and so you know it doesn't really matter

03:32:12.540 how serious it is it's just if enough people are talking let's not give this guy his freedom

03:32:16.680 because of that and you go on a you know years-long quest to find the diagonal on fire that does not

03:32:21.780 exist and they're still you know where's the arrests where's the arrest for terrorism where's

03:32:26.000 the kidnappings and the weapons caches and uh and the all the typical things you'd see from a you

03:32:31.200 know a militia that's playing like none of it was true it was all nonsense they made them all up and

03:32:35.540 the canadian public should be infuriated that their government would lie to them about something

03:32:39.600 like this just simply to achieve a political point we're going to scare them with this idea

03:32:42.960 that there's all these you know neo-nazi terror guys running around they're planning to attack

03:32:47.140 the city and stuff so we can so we can move the political ball down the field that's what they did

03:32:52.120 And that should not be let go by any means.

03:32:56.540 And once they tar you with the investigation, that stays with you.

03:32:59.380 Because even once they find nothing, they'll still say, well, he was investigated by the RCMP.

03:33:05.220 And they're not going to, right.

03:33:07.100 And they just put Chris Guy back in jail today while he's running for mayor of Toronto.

03:33:11.700 And somebody searched and it's like, well, I've just seen all these page after page after page of all the charges that he has.

03:33:16.640 And it's like, yeah, he's been acquitted of all those charges.

03:33:18.340 But they don't run those stories.

03:33:20.200 they just leave the ones out there about how he's been charged and and that's it and they do the

03:33:25.120 same to me and that's the whole point is to uh ruin your reputation so that anyone and and this

03:33:30.980 this works to 80 of the population will see that and be satisfied that that's the truth and walk

03:33:35.400 away with the idea that oh you're a terrorist because i read it on the news i saw it on 0.96

03:33:39.500 twitter i saw it on whatever i saw it on rachel gilmore's fucking only fans page so 0.96

03:33:44.400 that's the thing the only fans girls never explored journalism

03:33:49.900 yeah the only fans becomes a competitor to sub stack i'm just gonna make a talk yeah

03:33:58.280 it's not journalism it turns out it's that easy i started doing that just to mock them

03:34:03.840 like yeah i'll watch this like i'm a journalist oh you think you're cute because you can write

03:34:08.040 like i'm i'm handicapped i barely i'm barely literate i can't even count i'm like oh watch 0.98

03:34:12.460 this i'll write a sub stack yeah look at that also you get an ai so can you out slut an ai i sure

03:34:18.960 hope so yeah all right um they're coming for your job coming that's right uh i had one last question

03:34:27.520 before because i know we probably gotta get going soon but there is one question good for all kinds

03:34:31.780 of time but it's up to you okay this is sort of kind of building off of everything we've talked

03:34:37.820 about um and this will sound like a big question but i am curious looking at the current canadian

03:34:43.560 political landscape for all the young men out there the old men out there is there any political

03:34:51.140 solution that you can see for example i know you're probably no fan of pierre paulia but also

03:34:57.680 you know the people's party of canada the the is there any there's is there any contender you

03:35:03.080 could see that you like or is there any reason to invest a lot of hope or faith in the current

03:35:09.340 political system and if not is there any anything you're excited about to that you would recommend

03:35:15.380 people do if they want to enact change uh no is the short answer um a little bit of a longer one

03:35:25.260 would be it's it's just look at the demographics look at the numbers um they can't win and they

03:35:31.560 can't win because we're bringing in a million plus migrants a year. We've been doing this for

03:35:35.680 decades, not a million, you know, for decades, but the last couple of years, it's now going over

03:35:40.360 a million a year. We're a country of now 39.8 million. It was 32 million when I graduated high

03:35:46.040 school in 2004. So in another few years, when there's another election, we're going to be at

03:35:51.100 42 million, 43 million. These people overwhelmingly vote for the establishment party, the one that

03:35:57.380 brought them in here and has given them free stuff and given them, you know, and opportunities

03:36:01.680 and saying, oh yeah, we, you know, we were worshiping, we're here to help you and you're

03:36:05.760 the best and you're the new Canadians. And, but be careful of these old racist ones that they're

03:36:09.500 here. And, and the only reason that, uh, you know, all this stuff is happening is because of

03:36:12.900 colonialism and, you know, they're actively bringing them in here, brainwashing them against

03:36:17.860 the host population. And, um, you know, the, the conservatives are for that they promote this and

03:36:23.040 they're for mass migration and they don't, they won't fight this at all, which is the end of them

03:36:27.800 because of, you know, families of people coming in here from Pakistan and India are not going to

03:36:32.160 be conservative voters. And they seem to be oblivious to this when, you know, they make

03:36:35.840 fun of them and say, oh, these conservative events are awfully white. Like, yeah, that's

03:36:39.800 because that's who it appeals to. That's what white people are into. This is their values and

03:36:44.000 they're being outnumbered intentionally by people that don't share those values and then ensures the

03:36:49.620 fact that they can never win. How are you going to win an election if the country is, uh, there's

03:36:53.780 more of them than there is you, you can't. So it's over. Like, and this should have been dealt with

03:36:59.720 10 years ago. And, uh, you know, I like the, the PPCs platform and, you know, I've got my own

03:37:05.060 personal issues with them, but that notwithstanding, um, they're just, you know, they had the

03:37:10.800 elections and in 2021, I, you know, we said this, I, I supported them. I campaigned for them. I did

03:37:15.860 everything that I could think of to try and message for them and stuff. And I did some

03:37:20.540 public speaking in Saskatoon when I was living there at the time. And I've met with some of

03:37:25.360 their senior guys in Bernier a number of times. And it's just the public saw what they had to

03:37:30.400 offer and they're not interested. After all of COVID, all the lockdowns, all the shenanigans,

03:37:34.700 all the craziness, the highest alert, most politically active and alarmed time in Canadian

03:37:39.780 history and that option was on the table and everybody didn't want it they said no so i was 0.99

03:37:46.120 surprised by that too like i'm routinely surprised at you know we all see the fuck trudeau bumper 0.97

03:37:51.720 stickers but i think i think there was a lot of shenanigans and cheating going on as there is 0.96

03:37:56.700 everywhere but i that probably played a part in it but still there was not the there wasn't the

03:38:02.400 push that there needed to be and with the momentum and everybody just fell in line with the with the

03:38:06.420 conservatives because they think that they're going to win and they're still i mean the canadian 0.96

03:38:09.960 public is so politically illiterate and ignorant that they think their problems are because the 0.95

03:38:15.080 libs and we got to get the libs out so if we get the blue guy in the red guy will leave and then 0.97

03:38:19.960 everything will go back to normal and they're oblivious to the fact that all of the problems

03:38:24.340 that they're experiencing that are upsetting them the most the trans ideology stuff the cultural

03:38:28.760 marxist stuff the mass migration the reckless spending the warmongering the censorship the

03:38:33.960 government spying the politicization of our uh security establishment and all that both of these

03:38:39.020 parties are for all of those things they agree in lockstep on all of these things so replacing one

03:38:43.920 with the other isn't going to make any difference you might as well say we got a you know we got

03:38:47.680 this house is condemned we need a massive renovation or you need to tear the whole thing

03:38:51.080 down or we can paint the door from red to blue and then carry on and pretend everything's going

03:38:56.480 to be fine um and i always remind people that remember steven harper got in trouble for using

03:39:01.720 the term old stock canadians which is a pretty politically correct way to just establish that

03:39:07.580 there's such a thing as multi-generational canadians who've been here for like 15 20

03:39:13.500 generations the white folks yeah that's what 99 of them right like just saying that they exist

03:39:19.980 got you in trouble and this was i don't know how long ago that was but and now that and you're

03:39:24.660 seeing the cpc now pander pander to them he's running around in calistani costumes he's got

03:39:29.680 a chinese smock on today and tomorrow he's going to be wearing something from vietnam and next week

03:39:34.160 he's going to go to india to do some kind of dance they're all the same and it's like they're

03:39:37.840 investing their political capital in the future which is them not you we're having one 1.2 children

03:39:43.380 for families they're having five they're bringing in a million a year we're uh dying so yeah there's

03:39:49.520 no political um like if this was the 90s and the ppc was around yeah you know uh you can beat them

03:39:56.360 over a few years, 10, 15 years, you can claw your way in there and start to do some damage. But

03:40:00.760 as the demographic change ensures, that's just no longer possible. So I don't see

03:40:05.520 just logically, why would you waste time on something that just can't, you know, can't win?

03:40:11.380 One thing that we're going to talk about on the show is there's this book called The Clash of

03:40:16.980 Civilizations and the Remaking of the World Order by Sam Hutchinson. He was making the case that

03:40:22.740 post uh cold war there aren't really nations as much as there are civilizations like we speak of

03:40:28.660 the west and then we speak of you know the middle east and stuff like that um and so what we're

03:40:33.600 really seeing is sort of about a multicultural an amalgamation of like asian identity and then

03:40:38.600 sort of the russian identity and like the question is a problem i see with especially white people

03:40:44.740 is that we identify a bit too much with political parties and one of the reasons that a lot of these 0.90

03:40:51.040 migrants don't really give a shit about politics is because they have one question who's giving me 0.96

03:40:55.180 money because they have the cultural stuff all locked up and we kind of don't we lost that 0.99

03:41:01.180 and so we try and invest like i need the politics to represent my values and because we don't have

03:41:07.700 the network that you know these other groups do to answer for all that we just and if we just had

03:41:13.240 money for that then we would be like them but we almost need the government to answer more questions

03:41:18.360 for us because we've kind of lost that cultural identity generally i think yeah and what is our

03:41:25.420 cultural identity you know they'll say like all the new canadians well what makes them canadian

03:41:29.340 they've been here for two years on the magic dirt and we gave them a piece of paper so now they're

03:41:32.880 the same as me yeah it's silly i i encourage a lot of canadians especially because i think this

03:41:39.340 is a distinct problem from americans american actually has american identity kind of sewn up

03:41:43.440 especially in the south and the north they have a lot of dynamic foundational identities i think

03:41:49.080 canadians are struggling and this is why there's such an apathy here like we really do especially

03:41:54.820 people who are kind of tuned in like us to the right it's like let's start asking the hard

03:41:59.280 questions like who act who are we culturally irrespective of the government and some people

03:42:05.260 have that whole red ensign like we are british thing but maybe there's an alternative to that

03:42:10.620 because i don't think that's really as vibrant i don't think that gets people excited by saying

03:42:16.400 let's let's return to being a british colony like i don't think that animates people like like it

03:42:21.200 should you know yeah well i mean you got to collectivize around something and uh you know

03:42:27.220 for me a lot of that is just fighting this war against this global machine because it's not just

03:42:31.180 happening in canada it's happening in the whole world and that's probably why you know the west

03:42:34.360 is kind of tied together you know talked about joel davis earlier what they're going through

03:42:37.820 in australia is the exact same thing is happening here as what's happening in america it's happening

03:42:41.640 in england it's happening in germany and norway and sweden and italy and spain everywhere all over

03:42:46.420 the western world the same issues are happening so we're all kind of collectively fighting the

03:42:50.140 same thing and you know i'm i just say like you don't i i mean i don't intentionally like bring

03:42:55.520 race into it all that's hardly ever because i don't really see it a need to because you know

03:43:00.620 who this appeals to is is who it appeals to and if it's 97 white people then that's what it is

03:43:06.100 so just you know exactly there's no really there's no need to really go down this you know you have

03:43:12.240 to go here and you have to go there and it's like i'll like i'll accept and work with anybody that

03:43:15.840 wants to uh you know that shares my my views on these things and thinks that the you know this

03:43:19.940 is a problem and this agenda is nefarious and malevolent and aims to you know basically enslave 0.72

03:43:24.060 and destroy us all sooner or later it's white people today it's everybody else after yeah but 0.94

03:43:28.380 the fact is it's only white people talking about these problems like pretty much you know we all 0.93

03:43:33.540 like conspiracy theory stuff but it's like if you look at the anti-covid stuff like who was the

03:43:39.000 largest majority against covid and we get in trouble for that we get you know white guys get

03:43:44.220 dinged for that but i'm like well i think we were kind of vindicated and we were the guys like really

03:43:48.400 getting weird with the data but like time and time again who are the people who are really combing

03:43:53.840 through the documents to find this stuff it's it's not a bunch of like indian guys i'm sorry

03:43:59.560 One of the reasons is, yeah, the number one and number two voting, you know, blocks of people that can be pretty, you know, reliably leaned on to vote a certain way for lower, smaller government, more individual liberty, you know, stuff like that is white men and white women, respectively, number one and number two.

03:44:18.060 so they're they're in the way if you're if your goal is to kind of install this system where

03:44:23.960 there's little questioning and pushback of authority which is clearly what they're installing

03:44:28.420 there's no appetite for that at all you're not allowed to you're not allowed to question authority

03:44:31.640 or say anything that makes you a terrorist and a neo-nazi and it just so happens that 98 percent 0.68

03:44:36.300 of those people or whatever the number is also happen to be white so it's like we'll just say 0.96

03:44:39.700 they're all nazis and say that they're white supremacists and and that's you know it's it's 0.90

03:44:43.660 an anti-white system that's that's what it's at at the foundation whatever the issue is whether 0.98

03:44:47.500 it's trans ideology in school, whether it's migration, whether it's the war, it doesn't 0.66

03:44:51.640 matter. If you argue, if you can debate someone with this long enough, it eventually will come

03:44:56.480 down to, yeah, but you're a white guy. That will eventually, that always comes out. And it's like,

03:45:01.360 that is the basis, that is the central tenet of their entire thought process and where their heart 0.98

03:45:06.520 is, is that they're fighting some kind of evil and the evil is white people. And that's the thing, 0.98

03:45:11.420 because white guys, if you imagine yourself in a position of authority and power and you're

03:45:16.980 surveying your land and who are the troublemakers nine times that day who are the ones saying the

03:45:21.480 moon landing was fake who are the ones saying like all this crazy it's always like as we are

03:45:25.840 troublemakers and what you're seeing really this larger movement to take troublemakers and escalate

03:45:32.420 them into terrorist level threats but really they're just the ones who always question things

03:45:36.620 in america they're the same group that gets autistic about the constitution about the rules

03:45:42.300 and it's always throwing the rules in your face no one else is throwing the rules in their face so

03:45:47.380 like i need these people to shut up in some way and so and that's the trucker like the trucker

03:45:52.380 protest was fascinating because it was a pretty wide swathe of generally conservative guys like

03:45:59.300 you had a bunch of different levels of right on there you know but it's like just look at the

03:46:06.120 the breakdown of the demographics of that protest and i think it's it's right there it's all kind of

03:46:12.580 the same rural white guy and there was a lot of them and i think yeah i mean i was i was there

03:46:18.120 the whole time and you know i've said that there is a lot there is a representation from basically

03:46:22.900 everyone in the country there was indians there there was native americans and i mean india like

03:46:27.900 from india the country india like seek indians there was natives there was you know a few you

03:46:32.520 know there's some black people there you know they're around but it was 90 percent white people

03:46:37.680 you know that's just what it was like where are all these if in a country that's only 70 percent

03:46:41.800 white now why is that and it's just that this is who it appeals to because if you're and it's like

03:46:47.720 not a knock against them but if i you know move to saudi arabia or japan for economic you know

03:46:53.880 um opportunities it's like it's just going to be better there for my family and i really couldn't

03:46:58.140 give a shit i'm just going to go live there i'm not going to be getting involved in like 0.76

03:47:01.320 you know i don't care i'm not i'm not saudi arabian or japanese this isn't really a deep 0.99

03:47:05.720 seat this doesn't go back hundreds of years into my family history of you know my grand you know

03:47:10.900 family members and you know people i loved and you know brothers of mine that have fought and

03:47:15.200 died in wars you know it's it's there's a whole family history here that just doesn't exist with

03:47:20.740 somebody who got here six months ago or two years ago you know that's that's just not who they are

03:47:25.600 it's not in their dna like it is with us so it's it's not going to be the same it's just they're

03:47:30.000 not going to care as much why would they that's what are some some of them do some of them do and 0.99

03:47:34.680 i welcome them right i'm not going to be like you're not white get the fuck out i'm just like 0.99

03:47:37.940 hey man if you're on board you're on board and there's an awful lot of white people i'll be like 0.98

03:47:41.820 yep there is because that's how it is the one thing that i didn't make the rules man i just

03:47:46.000 work here you know one thing that's thrown a monkey wrench into everything it seems to be is

03:47:50.000 the lgbt trans stuff especially especially like that's what's getting the muslims up in arms and

03:47:56.300 the liberals don't really know what to do with that and you know i i'm not one of these guys

03:48:01.100 where it's like oh look we should be like i i don't like that it's only the muslims who were

03:48:06.700 able to like coordinate a protest against this or they were like the loudest ones or something

03:48:11.180 you know i mean like and that they were like yeah good oh the the sikhs are standing up it's like

03:48:15.760 there should be more of us standing up to this stuff this was something that you know they're

03:48:21.580 all kind of i don't know if i'm i'm not i'm not necessarily a contrarian but i always i'm always

03:48:26.680 looking for the problem to destroy i don't know why i think it's just my way my brain works but

03:48:31.380 everyone was real happy to see that uh you know like oh look the muslims are you know they're not

03:48:35.380 going to put up with this and they're all stepping on the flags and doing this and and you're seeing

03:48:38.740 these canadian men come up and like shake hands and worship these muslim children who are like

03:48:42.880 eight nine ten years old because they're jumping on these flags and in my head i'm like why don't

03:48:47.460 you jump on the flag why aren't you doing it why are you this little kid is doing your fighting

03:48:51.740 for you and you're gonna let him do it like it's kind of humiliating yeah that they'll look at

03:48:55.600 they're like this not having it and we're like look at this so this brave muslim child i'm like

03:49:01.420 like they should be fighting your battles for you those children should be following you you

03:49:07.320 know what i mean and and it's like they won't but they won't have the guts to do it themselves

03:49:10.380 they'll they'll cheer it on and stuff and say see the muslims don't like it either what's preventing

03:49:13.980 all these christians from throwing all these rainbow flags down and stepping on them lighting 1.00

03:49:16.900 them on fire oh you guys fucking the real badasses are here the muslims right they should be as 1.00

03:49:21.640 scared of the catholics they should be scared of the protestants but the balls on them right 1.00

03:49:26.900 you're in a you're in a foreign country and if you know and you're you're gonna go to war with 0.96

03:49:30.720 the government you know what i mean that's like yeah i'm not only gonna move to saudi arabia but 0.99

03:49:35.200 i'm gonna start telling them to go fuck themselves and i want a tim hortons on my street and i want 0.98

03:49:38.760 a hockey rink put up and tear this mosque down and i don't i better not see you know like it's a 1.00

03:49:44.000 pretty ballsy uh display and you know i you know support them and welcome them in fighting this but

03:49:49.580 that's because it's it's getting down to just at a human level like leave our children out of this

03:49:54.260 which they can't do and you know long predicted i talked with this years ago and they called me a

03:49:59.080 racist and a xenophobe and as long that's when the anti-hate people first started coming at me

03:50:02.800 because i'm an islamophobe because i was talking about the mass migration of muslims specifically 0.78

03:50:06.000 in here and i said this is canada is a liberal democracy country muslims are very right-wing 0.98

03:50:12.440 conservative to the point of they'll kill you if you're gay so yeah mass moving millions of them 0.98

03:50:18.540 into here is probably going to cause some problems that i think we is not necessary this is not going 0.99

03:50:22.820 to help anybody no you're just a big it's not real islam well you're going to see real islam

03:50:28.280 here real soon and now they're starting to get a taste of it so i'm like you're on your own you

03:50:32.320 wanted them here you deal with them and you said hashtag refugees welcome hashtag not all muslims

03:50:37.760 all this so if you want to you deal with them i'm just gonna sit here and eat popcorn and this is

03:50:42.220 the situation that a lot of guys on our side are stuck in and i don't know how i feel about it

03:50:46.820 but it's then getting that sweet vindication it's watching your opponents get what they deserve but

03:50:53.360 also thinking technically these are my countrymen technically these are my demographic am i delighting

03:51:00.580 to like but you know it's it's hard right because yes they're like even like a white liberal guy i'm

03:51:06.760 Like, do I want to see a guy who's misguided suffering? 0.94

03:51:09.480 Kind of yes, but I shouldn't, but I do like everything that a lot of even basic bitch

03:51:16.160 conservatives have predicted has come true.

03:51:19.380 Everyone's been, everyone is vindicated on COVID.

03:51:21.620 Let's just remember that everyone on our side was right about, we've been right about most

03:51:24.800 stuff, but it doesn't feel good being right.

03:51:28.380 It does.

03:51:28.800 I don't want to be right. 0.99

03:51:29.920 I would rather not have to go to jail for saying this shit, but it is what it is. 0.98

03:51:36.220 And I don't, I don't feel good about any, I just want them to know, I don't feel good 0.99

03:51:39.400 about any of this because a lot of the liberals like, oh, they're going to love, oh, look 0.77

03:51:42.940 a bunch of five white kids got stabbed by a Muslim, but they're going to love this.

03:51:47.020 I'm like, I don't, I was trying to protect you and maybe I still am. 0.86

03:51:51.920 Maybe that's the only reason I do this is because I'm, maybe I want to get through to

03:51:55.400 these people, but I'm like, I really don't want to see people suffer.

03:51:59.860 Right.

03:52:00.500 Yeah.

03:52:01.320 Well, I mean, kind of what you, what you mentioned earlier is like, cause I don't, I, I don't

03:52:04.980 believe in, it's not that I don't believe in politics. I don't believe in this political

03:52:09.140 environment. I don't think it's feasible. I don't think it's worth pursuing. And I don't think,

03:52:12.440 I think it's a dead end. I think it's corrupt. I think it's, you know, you're just voting for,

03:52:16.580 it's like ice cream. It's like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to get healthy. I'm not going to eat

03:52:20.220 chocolate ice cream anymore. I'm going to eat raspberry ice cream because it's made out of

03:52:22.800 raspberries. You know, it's just sugar and dairy. It's the exact same as soon as it gets in your

03:52:27.540 body, liberal, conservative, like there's very, it's a cosmetic difference at best. So what,

03:52:32.020 you know so if you're placing your faith in that to change anything it's a waste of time but

03:52:36.660 what we can do is build parallel power ourselves as a as a people as a community and um you know

03:52:43.000 start to insulate yourself from these things and you know withdraw yourself from the system piece

03:52:48.340 by piece if you can and you know ideally if it you know down to the if everybody could afford to

03:52:54.500 you know if i had a magic wand everybody would be living in you know more rural communities

03:52:58.680 outside the cities where they have like they've got access to their own food and not everybody

03:53:02.560 has to have a farm but if there's okay this guy does we we know a cattle farmer one cow will feed

03:53:08.000 a family for a year um we've got cattle we've got this you've got your own ways to get electricity

03:53:12.860 you got solar panels you have satellite internet you have your own well water like what do you

03:53:16.940 these are things you need you need to have a place to live securely you need to have food security

03:53:20.760 um you need water you know and you need a you need a tribe you need a community that's that

03:53:25.400 you can rely on and you can, you can help support and it can support you. If you have those things,

03:53:29.680 you're going to be very difficult to destroy. Yeah. And those are things that the government

03:53:32.840 can't just, it can't just arbitrarily remove from your life because you didn't, uh, you have a

03:53:38.360 problematic purchase history on Amazon. You know what I mean? Something like that. This is something

03:53:42.620 we talk about on the show a lot. And some people will hear us advocate for that and say, oh, you

03:53:46.680 just want to break away from society. I'm like, no, it's different. Cause what you're trying to do

03:53:50.300 is almost start again start generating a new community a new culture which is literally what

03:53:56.760 you need and i think what and we've kind of touched on this in this episode this interview

03:54:01.140 rather that there's enough chaos and enough discord i think in the state apprest right now

03:54:08.420 we're we're motivated groups can start this right now maybe in a way that they can't in america and

03:54:15.000 certainly in a way they can't do in Europe.

03:54:18.340 But here, there's enough space.

03:54:19.920 Not desirable.

03:54:21.240 Yeah, there's enough space.

03:54:22.400 There's enough inadequacies in the state apparatus

03:54:25.420 where you could, with enough gumption and enough planning,

03:54:29.720 get some people together.

03:54:30.920 And that's where it starts.

03:54:31.860 It starts with building your community.

03:54:33.760 And then you kind of build up to this.

03:54:35.280 You grow a tree that way.

03:54:36.760 But the idea of hijacking this rotting corpse,

03:54:39.760 I'm not sure there's a future in that.

03:54:41.400 It can't be done.

03:54:42.200 People have tried to do it.

03:54:43.200 They can just remove you.

03:54:44.260 like i'll change it from the inside i'll get elected no you're not going to do anything because

03:54:48.100 any power you think you have you you didn't build it yourself you didn't bring it with you you had

03:54:53.180 it loaned to you by the enemy and they can take it away anytime they want and they do you can look

03:54:57.800 at somebody like derrick sloan who was a member of parliament who said yeah i don't know about all

03:55:01.420 this stuff gone goodbye derrick um you know they did the same to a number of people so you can't

03:55:06.780 do that but if you build uh your own power right like it's not something that happens overnight but

03:55:11.260 building this community of you know i mean there's thousands and thousands of people now and even

03:55:14.960 just the stupid telegram page i put up there's 20 over 2500 people in there um interacting with 0.51

03:55:19.820 each other all the time and it's like um you know how do you it's not running away it's like we're 0.99

03:55:24.640 just going to fight differently now because this is that you're they're trying to make us play a

03:55:28.400 rigged game so it's like uh i i just needed uh you know tires replaced on my motorcycle and i said

03:55:34.040 i'm not going to go to the dealership i'm going to look for anybody anybody know how to do this

03:55:38.280 is there anybody that can do this i would rather pay one of you guys to do it than them if i'm

03:55:43.060 going to hire somebody to do like a sound or video edit or something for what i'm doing like

03:55:48.120 whatever i could you know as it pertains to my business and stuff i would hire one of our people

03:55:52.600 to do it not outsource to some company or whatever so you keep the money in the family the work in

03:55:57.900 the you know in in the sense that uh you know of our people right you know we all help and support

03:56:02.560 each other like this and hopefully we can start to kind of expand the community to a point that

03:56:07.400 um, there's enough power there that we can insulate ourselves from, from things that they

03:56:12.040 want to do. Um, and there's other people have started up their own schools. Like there's a

03:56:15.820 one room schoolhouse, not far away. That's a few families got together and said, we're not cool

03:56:20.480 with the way the school system's doing things. And I can't homeschool them and you can't, but we,

03:56:24.900 amongst the several families we have, there are a couple of adults that could teach the kids and

03:56:29.140 they want to. So here's what we'll do. We'll get a building. We'll, you know, uh, pay the, you know,

03:56:33.980 collectively pay the fees for it and we'll meet there this many days or times a week and drop the

03:56:38.720 kid and that's there's your school now basically how we did it for a way longer than the government

03:56:43.820 run schools were ever done were these basically one room community school houses was how it was

03:56:48.020 done for quite a while so it was good enough for my grandparents and they were infinitely smarter

03:56:51.920 than my generation so i don't see a problem with doing you know things like this basically take

03:56:56.340 the people just look they want to look to the government to do everything now it's it's kind

03:57:00.360 of this victim slave mentality where if something happens or there's a problem needs to be solved

03:57:04.380 they look for someone else who do they call to fix it rather than looking at themselves in the

03:57:08.100 mirror and go what can i do to fix this and if that we change the culture we change the attitudes

03:57:12.680 and if we can do that and start to kind of create more of a proactive self-focused like how do we

03:57:18.020 how do we survive to get you know irrespective outside of um you know what the government's

03:57:23.240 doing and their mindless slaves in the cities are doing um then i mean i'm pretty sure that

03:57:28.100 whole thing is going to crash and burn on its own you know so we just survive that and then rebuild

03:57:33.580 later i mean this is going to take 100 years this isn't going to be done in 10 years or five years

03:57:37.580 this is going to be ongoing for a long time unfortunately this isn't going to be something

03:57:41.240 you can fix yeah and a project like this uh for people who are wondering about it it will also

03:57:47.880 filter for the types of people that you want because there's a lot of crazy people in every

03:57:52.620 scene but especially in ours but once you start planning for this and building a community you

03:57:57.600 will filter you'll get a crew going of driven and motivated and reliable people versus the anonymous

03:58:04.540 twitter posters you know we don't need those anymore like we're past that so we're doing a

03:58:09.160 lot of um you know you're seeing some of the like the active club guys are doing that kind of thing

03:58:13.820 it's similar right we're doing the same thing get out and meet with each other and you know face to

03:58:17.900 face and and do some do some do something go for a hike fight each other do whatever you know

03:58:22.540 something to basically try to start to the reprogramming process instead of staying home

03:58:28.000 and staying safe and looking at a screen all day go out and be a human being especially if you're a

03:58:32.400 man you need to get out and move your body around and be with other men there's no men's clubs

03:58:35.500 anymore all that stuff's been destroyed and shut down and there's a reason for that so rebuild them

03:58:40.240 this way and the you know that group those guys that show up to go to your you know makeshift

03:58:45.420 boxing camps and you know workouts and whatever it is you're doing hikes or we're just gonna go

03:58:50.220 have a run a barbecue to give hot dogs away to people or whatever food drives it the people

03:58:55.040 that show up to do those things those are the people that are going to show up to do all kinds

03:58:58.460 of things and it's going to weed out the ones that are just talking and just screwing around

03:59:02.180 and wasting time on the internet being drunk and fat all the time versus the people that'll

03:59:06.100 actually do some things and then once you can collect kind of a base of solid people then then

03:59:11.340 you can really start like look now i've got even if it's just 10 or 15 guys 10 or 15 guys can get

03:59:15.440 lot done way more than one on his own can 10 or 15 guys can do essentially anything in the world

03:59:22.220 you can build a skyscraper with enough time in 15 guys there um like derek right now he's on a one

03:59:28.960 guy one of our guys bought a pile of land like 100 acres or something and he's basically building

03:59:33.720 a fortress up there and he's like hey you come out here and help me for the summer i'll give you an

03:59:37.820 acre and you can put a cabin on it whatever you want but it's yours uh so that's a sweet deal i 0.98

03:59:43.240 I wish more people would take that in a fucking heartbeat. 0.98

03:59:46.180 Yep. 0.99

03:59:46.580 That's a great idea.

03:59:47.560 And a lot of them are doing, and that's the plan.

03:59:49.020 Like we're going to build basically these, uh, kind of outposts, you know, like lighthouses

03:59:52.640 veterans for freedom is doing that V for it.

03:59:54.660 They're calling it the farm, fob farm concept, the fob farm concept, uh, forward operating

04:00:01.220 base is kind of what fob means in the military, but kind of like a forward, uh, outpost where

04:00:05.480 you just, yeah, building these kinds of homestead locations that yeah, there's chickens go like

04:00:10.040 whatever uh that person has there to you know sustain themselves and other people can help

04:00:14.660 contribute to that and draw from it because there's like one guy i know he's got some chickens

04:00:19.200 and he's like i have more eggs than i can throw away in a day like i don't even know what to do

04:00:23.780 with all these so it's like we don't need a hundred chicken farmers you only need a couple

04:00:27.160 you got a couple carpenters you got a couple welders you got an electrician you got a plumber

04:00:30.920 you got damn there you go you can get quite a bit done with this you know um so that's kind of the

04:00:36.980 idea and i i would love to do hopefully i'm planning to sue a lot of people after these 0.94

04:00:40.800 cases are done the government the police a number of individuals so hopefully i'll be sitting on

04:00:45.600 some money in a few years and then i would that's what i would like to do too i'd buy 200 acres of

04:00:49.760 land and start uh just yeah firing people in there ideally it'd be like once the checks clear

04:00:54.860 shoot us a line i can already i know my co-host is listening to this and he's sweating right now

04:00:59.900 you're speaking his language he's been talking about this all this is like his dream it's the

04:01:03.900 way i think i think it's the way i think and and you know and everyone wants to go oh well we'll

04:01:07.740 just wake all you and a little bit like well don't be an arms trafficker and have you know a bunch of

04:01:12.000 underage girls are having sex with for start don't do anything illegal that's also very important

04:01:16.020 because you just give them a reason don't give them any way in off the top of your head but

04:01:20.240 i mean think about that though is there going to be there could be dozens of these locations where

04:01:24.980 there's 30 40 50 60 people living on 200 acres of land kind of in a self-contained community and 0.99

04:01:30.080 the reason they're there is because the outside world is fucking crazy and wants to kill them 0.99

04:01:34.220 Are you going to go to war with all these? 1.00

04:01:35.780 How many of those places can you burn down 1.00

04:01:37.300 and families can you kill 0.99

04:01:38.340 before there's just a full-scale civil war? 0.82

04:01:40.460 Probably not very many.

04:01:41.700 They're going to knock on my doors.

04:01:42.880 What are you doing there?

04:01:43.700 I'm reading esoteric theory and they shoot me at it.

04:01:46.780 Yeah.

04:01:48.440 Versus being by yourself in an apartment building in a city.

04:01:51.040 You're real easy to roll up and get disposed of then.

04:01:53.180 But if there's 60 people in some rural community,

04:01:56.100 that's a whole lot.

04:01:56.700 You need the military for something like that,

04:01:58.260 which we don't have much of one anymore.

04:02:00.380 So you're always going to be stronger with a tribe, with a group of people that has your back than you'll ever be on your own.

04:02:06.560 And they want to discourage that.

04:02:08.180 They want to discourage people from collectivizing and working together and creating a parallel power system that goes, you know what?

04:02:13.820 Yeah, the government can say a lot of things, but it can't really do anything to us because we have our own food, water, shelter, and needs of survival.

04:02:18.720 Guess what?

04:02:19.080 If the military is full of newcomers, they hate the woods. 1.00

04:02:23.320 This is not a place where fat black women go generally. 0.99

04:02:26.780 So they're not going to be knocking on your door. 0.99

04:02:28.160 this would be our military is not capable of securing pei or nova scotia like land mass size

04:02:35.460 amount of like for what we have you committed the entire military to like quelling a chaotic

04:02:39.480 insurgency or something i mean hypothetically right i'm not advocating anything but nova scotia

04:02:45.000 would be more than our military can handle yeah so i mean to this fear of like oh they'll send

04:02:49.840 and then they'll say oh but they'll send in the un then and then so okay so and you're how many

04:02:56.220 steps down the road of of creating excuses not to work is this where it's like well i would do that

04:03:01.220 but 15 years from now chinese soldiers with blue helmets could come and kill me so i'm not i mean

04:03:06.220 no one's afraid of the u.n yeah and and like first of all that's the amount of things that

04:03:12.320 would have to happen it's you know that's like oh there's not even a just kill yourself when

04:03:16.340 you're a baby because bad things are probably going to happen to you in your lives there's 1.00

04:03:18.980 no point like that's a stupid i'm afraid of spicy latinas more than i'm afraid of the u.n 1.00

04:03:23.960 Jesus Christ. 0.99

04:03:25.120 And more to that, if there's foreign soldiers walking around policing the Canadian population, I mean, I think you're much closer to a – you're going to have a situation on your hands if that happens.

04:03:36.520 So I don't think that's something you need to worry about right now.

04:03:38.700 I think that, Mr. McKenzie, that's as good as a place to end as any.

04:03:42.600 We covered everything I wanted to cover.

04:03:45.580 Was there anything else you wanted to add before we go?

04:03:48.340 And I was going to shout out yourself.

04:03:49.340 But is there anything that I – any projects you worked on that I might have missed at the start?

04:03:53.960 Um, I mean, not really. I'm kind of on house arrest, so there's not really a lot I can do right now. I haven't been able to see my children hardly. It's all on purpose. They're just separated me from my support network and my family and stuff to, you know, try to psychologically harm me as much as possible. And they're sending the, you know, the police are following me and doing all kinds of stupid, stupid things and coming and checking on me at one o'clock in the morning and waking up the house and stuff like that just to, uh, you know, um, I can't remember where I was going with that, but, uh, what was it?

04:04:21.840 Well, I was going to say if you wanted to promote anything, but that's why I was going to say it's very important that people would go to ragingdissident.com, check out, and it seems so obvious, I should have come up with this myself, visit the grift shop. 0.92

04:04:35.720 The grift dot shop.

04:04:37.360 Yeah, support Mr. McKenzie, watch his show, donate, he's at war for a lot of the things that would break a lot of other people.

04:04:47.740 it's it's not just me i like i've kind of like the other guys are making a little bit of money

04:04:51.520 on it too so i'm trying to you know grow this out as much as i can ideally i'd like to be able to

04:04:55.900 you know fund an operation where i can hire some of these guys full time and this can be what they

04:04:59.840 do rather than having to work to support the you know the battle you know it's like i have a day

04:05:05.160 job so i can do this which is what their their passion is so that would be ideally in the future

04:05:10.560 but yeah i was just i was just trying to make the point that i'm not not for pity's sake but like

04:05:14.300 this is what uh this is what they will do to people but it's not the end of the world and

04:05:17.900 if i can if i can stomach this and endure this and put up with it a lot of people can i don't

04:05:21.500 think i'm exceptionally um tough or you know constituted of anything that's on on similar

04:05:29.260 dissimilar to anybody else walking around it just simply comes from a desire to fight and if you

04:05:33.100 have that if your morale is high enough where you want to fight you go looking for it um well maybe

04:05:39.260 not going looking for it but you know what i mean the attitude is like when you're walking towards

04:05:42.140 the cage or the, you know, the battlefield, whatever it is, you're not, you know, swallowing

04:05:46.580 fear and like, I'm going to die. Like you have to go in with the right mindset. And if you do that,

04:05:50.260 you can, you can endure and put up with quite a lot. I mean, you could be in solitary confinement

04:05:54.400 for 10 days and some, you know, prison on the other side of the country with no access to anything.

04:05:58.620 You can't even look out a window and you just sit there and go, when I get out of here, I'm going 1.00

04:06:02.760 to fuck shit up. You have to maintain the, uh, maintain the resistant attitude because their 0.99

04:06:08.440 entire system is built on demoralizing you and breaking you spiritually and mentally so you stop

04:06:13.260 fighting and mine is the opposite i want people to fight and stay as you know defiant and you know

04:06:19.060 upright with their shoulders back and their chin up and as much as they can and if it you know even

04:06:23.680 if it's like you know we can't win it's like well if we can't win we're gonna go out with uh you

04:06:27.640 know with our with our chin up rather than like a bunch of defeated slaves and that's why people

04:06:31.800 check out ragingdissident.com there is momentum building there is a group of like-minded people

04:06:37.820 out there and there's moves being made if you feel alone or you feel overwhelmed you know visit

04:06:43.420 that get into that involved in the community and find your like-minded people yeah we're we're

04:06:49.300 everywhere we're in every province and there's probably somebody near your street you just don't

04:06:52.820 know it uh jeremy mr mckenzie i just want to thank you very very dearly this is one of my top

04:06:57.920 interviews i've ever done we covered some fascinating things here and thank you again

04:07:02.140 for taking the time oh thanks a lot man i appreciate it anytime all right let's talk to you soon

04:07:06.800 Sure.

04:07:09.640 Hey, baby, I hear the blues are calling, tossed salads and scrambled eggs.

04:07:16.640 And maybe I seem a bit confused.

04:07:19.660 Yeah, maybe, but I got you pegged.

04:07:22.020 Ha, ha, ha.

04:07:24.000 But I don't know what to do with those dark salads.

Blood Satellite - June 23, 2023

Speeding Up to Negative's Pace [“Break in Japan thinks it up in Ontario”]

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