Blood Satellite - Sun Microsystems Anal Un-Unaliving Ointment [“be eating slop updates for free if you're over that”]

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.720 blood satellite have you been watching what james lindsey's been up to i don't have a lot

00:00:22.840 planned for this episode it starts out with james lindsey oh maybe we're on the wrong foot 0.88

00:00:28.180 but i know i i caught some of the stuff that you had posted but man what a what a gay man he is

00:00:34.580 so what i'm talking about is him trying to coin the term and i think it some people say it's been

00:00:42.860 floating around before but i'd only heard it from him of the woke right this is like horseshoe theory

00:00:49.420 so i think i saw sargon say it before him yeah which is like oh the extreme left and the extreme

00:00:55.600 right i can't tell the difference they're the same picture you know like it's they both complain

00:01:03.120 about things and they both uh are authoritarian that's their thing they're both authoritarian

00:01:08.460 wicked that's not good um and so i'm i got a whole bunch of stuff in front of me here like

00:01:14.260 the woke right chart there's a reference chart that explains what the woke right is

00:01:18.640 um so the components i'll just pick some at random one of these squares there's

00:01:23.920 Neo-Confederacy, Christian statism, post-liberalism, NRX, Volkishness, anti-Semitism, and then some of the figures are Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, and then also Leo Strauss, Schmidt, Heidegger, and Nietzsche.

00:01:44.300 On one end, there's the woke right, on the other end, it's esoteric, theosophical heresy.

00:01:48.640 so heidegger is esoteric heresy sure um what what's this one here const quote constitution

00:01:58.480 is dead not sure what that means or who said it does sound like a leftist because if there's one

00:02:06.880 group of people that seem to like the constitution it's the extreme right you know or am i wrong on

00:02:13.560 that what do you think um uh well it's this problem again where like extreme right is just

00:02:19.280 anybody who isn't a member of the republican party so there's a lot of people who believe

00:02:23.160 the constitution is dead and then there's a lot of constitutionalists and neither one of them are

00:02:26.700 part of the republican party so i don't know yeah so james lindsey people recall him he got famous

00:02:36.000 i remember him getting famous by peering on joe rogan um and his name was getting big because

00:02:43.320 he had pulled a prank on academic journals right he had proven that all these academic journals

00:02:50.200 are fraudulent and because he had submitted just nonsense woke type papers using made-up language

00:02:57.400 fabricated statistics um just loaded it up with adjectives that don't make any sense and then got

00:03:03.360 them peer-reviewed and so he said i i he published a book on how he tricked academia but then ever

00:03:10.540 since then he's just been he's just incoherent and so but his story is like he's basically just

00:03:16.720 an atheist and so he's kind of on the all light right side and he sees the popularity of

00:03:25.360 anti-semitism and the popularity of christianity and that's a big problem for him and so he's

00:03:31.960 weaving conspiracy theories i've seen where he thinks it's like russia making the right

00:03:38.740 turned christian and he's saying that he had secret conversations about this a year ago

00:03:44.820 a friend a good friend of the show named fancy he had referred me to a quote i think it was

00:03:51.280 from nick land who summed it up perfectly when he said what if james lindsey's just insane 0.53

00:03:57.860 what if he's just crazy like he's not dumb right like he can he can string a few words together

00:04:05.620 that's great coming from nick land too also yeah nick land like if nick land's like what if this 0.99

00:04:10.040 guy's just out of his fucking mind because he's looking at this and saying this doesn't make

00:04:13.260 sense and then you know we've covered all the ccru stuff right yeah yeah but i i do think that 0.99

00:04:21.120 anytime people are complaining about james lindsey like this woke right thing what the fuck is this 0.93

00:04:25.960 maybe he's just insane and then we should stop paying attention because remember this is the guy 0.98

00:04:33.080 who tricked academia no matter how delusional we think he is he tricked all the the peer review

00:04:41.140 apparatus that we have yeah i mean he pulled a pretty neat prank but he's got kind of sunken

00:04:47.440 eyes and like seed oil jowls and he shaves his beard like beard like he shaves his head you know

00:04:52.600 he's got the same stubble across his whole body he's got the physiognomy of like a mole rat he

00:04:58.020 kind of looks like one of my uncles and you well i think a lot of people's uncles the ones that you

00:05:02.460 hide they look like this guy you know lindsey the man with the woman's name and you stick him

00:05:08.080 you take him and you give him a prank and then the prank catapults him onto cnn or wherever

00:05:12.860 and he doesn't know how to react he wasn't meant for this you know james lindsey was not meant for

00:05:17.220 the limelight so he's like he's in the he's a he's in the twilight where he you've almost become a

00:05:23.420 lol cow and i think he will become a lol cow soon and it's not because people treat him like oh he's 0.97

00:05:28.400 like a pundit no he's not a pundit he's some random fucking dude he was not meant to be here 0.99

00:05:32.420 and he is not taking it well he's he's collapsing in slow-mo he's one of these guys that does not 0.97

00:05:38.280 have the vibe for being the troll that he wants to be no no no his method of trolling was spending

00:05:45.180 years of writing thousands of pages of articles and submitting them in like in triplicate that

00:05:50.100 was his troll imagine him at the computer laughing with his friend writing the kooky woke paper but

00:05:57.300 he's taking sips of uh white wine yes yes a real bad booze for trolling um he it reminds me of

00:06:08.500 michael malice and i like michael nothing against michael malice but he really doesn't have the

00:06:14.320 attitude to be like the merry prankster that i think he wants to be he he kind of takes himself 0.97

00:06:20.900 too seriously he doesn't really know how to play a fool i think you need to be able to be a dummy 0.97

00:06:26.000 to be a good troll but these guys they don't 0.98

00:06:28.360 they really can't make themselves 1.00

00:06:30.040 look foolish and so 0.99

00:06:32.100 they'll always be you know 1.00

00:06:33.780 propelling themselves

00:06:35.940 away from really selling

00:06:38.040 it right so

00:06:40.020 I'm like I don't know if you know how to have fun with this

00:06:41.920 he just says the word tranny

00:06:43.820 but you know what just saying

00:06:46.040 tranny and you know

00:06:48.560 chuck winking 1.00

00:06:50.080 that the n-word's kind of funny

00:06:51.740 not enough I need 1.00

00:06:54.080 you to strangle a woman to death sorry that's the price of admission these days sorry jews yeah we 1.00

00:07:04.920 need you to jack the rip her is what we need you to that's how you get entry to whatever the fuck 1.00

00:07:11.760 it is i think i'm doing see i'm looking at his twitter james lindsey anti-communist that's his 0.99

00:07:18.960 big thing oh pro america hold on anti-communist whoa based af no no no no

00:07:28.720 cut my life into philosophy this is my last hypothesis i think where he goes from here

00:07:35.220 is being vehemently pro israel isn't that weird it was what a strange place to end up

00:07:43.040 i was looking at another guy who's in that space named constantin kissin oh i hate that guy so

00:07:51.780 much man oh co-host of trigger-nometry the worst show the abs just insufferable unwatchable tripe

00:08:01.260 it's a show hosted by two people but it could be hosted by one because they sit like shoulder to

00:08:05.880 shoulder it shouldn't be hosted at all it should like it's just it's like it's between two ferns

00:08:11.200 but taken seriously it's the mike malice of shows it's between two ferns and they are the ferns

00:08:16.540 yeah just guys who are in love with the idea of saying something edgy you know i mean like

00:08:26.420 it's not even edgy like we broke this down for you it was edgy 15 years ago now it's only edgy 0.98

00:08:33.660 to boomers who have had their television sets turned off like this this shit isn't edgy did 0.99

00:08:37.540 you know that being woke is actually really racism wow thanks conrad or constant whatever 1.00

00:08:43.440 the fuck your name is like that's brilliant like hey thanks conrad consinople you fucking 1.00

00:08:50.580 you you you race neutral you you brown jew how dare you with your weird english accent 1.00

00:08:58.700 how dare you speak to me a colonial canadian you think if you're a brown jew i think you need to 1.00

00:09:04.620 have a british accent don't ask me why it just seems like sanitizes it half jewish at the very 0.95

00:09:10.140 least um i saw a video and he he's getting in trouble for this he's no longer on the fence

00:09:17.480 about the israel-palestine conflict oh really let me guess now get ready to be triggered

00:09:25.260 that's because that's the thing i was saying like these are the guys who they don't like saying edgy

00:09:29.580 things, but they like the idea of being

00:09:31.540 the guys who are in

00:09:32.880 the sandbox of edgy. It's like, we are

00:09:35.500 the edgy sayers. We're going to do the edgiest

00:09:37.680 thing you can do as a large media personality. 1.00

00:09:39.760 We're going to endorse Israel.

00:09:43.060 You know what he said?

00:09:44.100 I'm going to paraphrase this,

00:09:45.860 but he had said

00:09:46.660 they called it the October 7th attack.

00:09:49.580 That's what they call it when 0.63

00:09:50.580 Hamas invaded. 0.99

00:09:54.660 And they did the 1.00

00:09:55.540 whole fucking hang glider thing. 0.99

00:09:57.640 That was very 0.98

00:09:59.120 mad max fury road yeah um and he had said they're calling that israel's 9-11 because you know all

00:10:06.980 these people died but he's like it's it's nothing like 9-11 now now now what hmm in fact it's it's

00:10:13.820 worse it's worse than 9-11 because he had said if you look at it per capita the population size of

00:10:23.360 America versus Israel and how many people died on October 7th versus 9-11, October 7th is actually

00:10:31.480 like 10 9-11s. Wow. Some keep calling October 7th Israel's 9-11. That isn't remotely true. 0.55

00:10:41.500 If October 7th was Israel 9-11 on a per capita basis, only 100 people would have been killed.

00:10:47.180 In other words, October 7th was at least 12 times as bad as 9-11.

00:10:52.300 And that's before accounting for the fact that Hamas took hundreds of hostages, many of whom have been killed since. 0.51

00:10:58.800 So he's like, you actually, as Americans, as non-Jews, you have no frame of reference for how bad this is. 0.69

00:11:06.200 This is second only to the Holocaust. 0.54

00:11:10.200 And you hear something like this and you realize this is how they got to 6 million. 0.65

00:11:14.820 mm-hmm it's just like a little it's a calculus that they just use and like if you think about

00:11:20.540 there's probably like 200 jews who died in concentration camps like but if you think

00:11:25.100 about it if you think about the diaspora and the thousands of years we suffered every jew 0.98

00:11:29.360 is like 20 000 gentiles yeah well they believe that too that's like in their fucking gemara or 0.97

00:11:35.660 whatever yeah it's just the thing is they are actually the same in the sense that neither one 0.95

00:11:41.000 of them happened and if they did happen they were planned by the jews i like we don't hear that a

00:11:47.200 lot you don't hear a lot of like october 7th didn't happen it didn't it didn't happen it didn't happen

00:11:54.180 it's not real were you there i was there man i got pictures i was me and me and my dad were

00:12:01.700 gonna take a flight there that day and then he got a call and i decided to not go it's judas 0.99

00:12:08.080 get your hand off my penis what is the charge eating a succulent chinese 1.00

00:12:15.220 fuck you judas just rears his ugly head um it just it reminded me of something i had read 1.00

00:12:23.260 and again this is just something that i can't even verify but i'm gonna go with it being true 1.00

00:12:30.540 because I read it in the Express.

00:12:33.200 The UK's Express.

00:12:35.460 Jack the Ripper breakthrough

00:12:37.880 as DNA finally unmasks the serial killer

00:12:40.880 after 136 years.

00:12:43.820 Did you read that on the Express

00:12:44.860 or did you read it on my wife's Telegram channel?

00:12:48.160 I got it from her channel,

00:12:51.540 but I followed it to the Express.

00:12:55.460 Good, good, good, good.

00:12:57.160 And your wife is good 1.00

00:12:58.100 because she doesn't say things like, 1.00

00:12:59.720 every single time she'll just say wowzers like just something she doesn't do the slogans

00:13:07.720 but you know jack the ripper i remember when i was a kid uh we were on some family trip and

00:13:14.680 went to a bookstore and um i was just i ended up going through like the bargain bin and picked

00:13:20.300 this massive hardcover book and it was like a psychic investigation of jack the ripper and i

00:13:27.240 thought that sounds really interesting well and it was just like a psychic just a regular person

00:13:33.020 who claims their psychic powers writing a book saying they discovered who jack the ripper was

00:13:37.460 i think it was like a woman or something just like a nonsense book but that's to say i've been

00:13:43.460 following this story for a long time it's been and i'll just give you the mean potatoes of the

00:13:49.780 story everyone thought that it had to be a surgeon right because the incisions were so specific

00:13:56.780 If you actually look at what had actually happened,

00:14:00.760 it doesn't seem like it was a surgical hand that did it.

00:14:03.800 And you'll hear them say, like, oh, they took a bunch of organs.

00:14:05.600 So, like, it was either a highly skilled surgeon or a medical student

00:14:09.640 or an illiterate butcher.

00:14:12.260 Yeah. 0.76

00:14:12.860 One of those three.

00:14:15.380 Or a guy who just, like, is cutting up meat and taking organs.

00:14:19.140 It doesn't need to be, like, a deranged surgeon.

00:14:22.260 It is very – I think part of that is just 21st century people

00:14:25.000 not understanding what a butcher does and like how many people in the 19th century would know

00:14:30.200 how to remove the organs from an animal carcass that's a good point everybody would know that 0.98

00:14:35.160 that's like i know how to do that i'm not an expert but i can pull the fucking stomach out 0.92

00:14:39.920 of a squirrel i've done that but a bunch of english bugs and blimey he must have been the 0.98

00:14:48.120 surgeon general

00:14:49.200 he must have been the surgeon

00:14:51.160 the one from the cigarette pack

00:14:53.480 the one from the cigarette 0.96

00:14:55.640 the one from me fags

00:14:58.220 and it just it turns out or it could be 1.00

00:15:03.820 you know a drunk man with a knife

00:15:05.680 yeah because it's london

00:15:07.320 130 years ago

00:15:08.880 um just the story here is they

00:15:11.240 they found

00:15:11.900 this story sounds a bit ludicrous that

00:15:14.860 there was um

00:15:15.620 a shawl or a scarf of some kind

00:15:18.020 that was sold at auction

00:15:20.780 because it was stolen from one of the evidence

00:15:23.900 of one of the murders by a police officer

00:15:28.220 and given to his wife as a morbid gift,

00:15:31.060 which is a funny story in itself.

00:15:33.920 Like, first of all, you steal evidence,

00:15:35.480 which you're not supposed to do even back then, right?

00:15:39.420 You can't just go yoink at a piece of vital evidence

00:15:43.020 and then you give it to your wife and say,

00:15:44.440 oh, look what I got. 0.99

00:15:45.100 ah, it's covered in blood and semen. 0.96

00:15:48.820 That's what they say.

00:15:49.580 It was covered in DNA evidence

00:15:51.000 and the form of blood did come.

00:15:53.400 And then they kept it in the family

00:15:55.280 as a curiosity for, I don't know,

00:15:59.820 over a century.

00:16:01.540 And then they sold it at auction

00:16:03.260 and then someone bought it,

00:16:04.980 this Jack the Ripper researcher.

00:16:06.840 Then they did a DNA test

00:16:07.980 and they found out that there was DNA

00:16:10.420 linking one of

00:16:13.100 the

00:16:13.640 suspects of it

00:16:17.040 however they can only test that

00:16:19.000 through one of his relatives they wanted to test it on

00:16:20.980 his bones

00:16:22.460 but they didn't want to

00:16:24.240 so anyway it's a bit of a stretch

00:16:26.720 turns out it was just

00:16:28.800 a Jewish guy 0.99

00:16:29.880 go figure 1.00

00:16:31.680 no surgeon

00:16:34.880 no nothing it was just

00:16:36.740 a Jewish guy that the police 0.97

00:16:38.660 said made notes of it says well he was in the area and he really hates women

00:16:43.440 in a in a time that's in the police notes yeah like he's got uh what was it here he grew up in

00:16:53.940 near warsaw youngest of seven children during the murder investigation the dr robert anderson

00:16:59.920 head of the london criminal investigation department had designated him a key suspect

00:17:04.560 said uh believed he had a quote great hatred of women especially the prostitute class and he had

00:17:10.540 strong homicidal tendencies here we go but even then political correctness made them reluctant

00:17:16.580 to accuse a jew due to the potential fallout of anti-semitism go figure in london no way

00:17:23.620 i have noticed two typos so far in just that paragraph alone so yeah but what are you reading

00:17:30.040 it's the what did you say it's the express what is the express i thought that that's a real place

00:17:34.680 oh give me a break it doesn't none of that like all these these old papers i don't know if this 0.92

00:17:40.620 is even one of the old ones and a lot of the ones that i've been reading they don't fucking edit man 0.86

00:17:44.900 they don't have editors it's just atrocious they have i've seen whole lines repeated and just the 0.97

00:17:49.380 most atrocious typos sad sad so we think we got him it was it was the jewish immigrant who hated 1.00

00:17:55.800 women especially prostitutes in a time when no one really liked women you bitch i don't think 0.99

00:18:03.160 there's been a time in european history where the the elites or the center of power were not 1.00

00:18:10.400 concerned about anti-semitism you know i mean to hear jews tell it they would say the world was 0.76

00:18:17.100 always anti-semitic against them but it seems that there's always a cover-up of these acts

00:18:21.980 because, well, we don't want to incense, you know,

00:18:24.000 anti-Jewish pogroms or anything.

00:18:26.300 Yeah, at least in the cities where they have, you know,

00:18:29.680 largely been wealthy, influential money changers

00:18:32.540 for a very long time.

00:18:33.900 So, like, if you owe them a lot of money, then, yeah.

00:18:37.620 October 7th, believers.

00:18:38.880 How about there was never such a thing as anti-Semitism

00:18:42.140 before Henry Ford? 0.99

00:18:44.680 Huh, he invented it.

00:18:46.160 How about that? 0.86

00:18:46.560 How about there's never been anti-Semitism until, you know, America?

00:18:51.980 He invented the automobile, I'm pretty sure. 0.81

00:18:55.660 He may not have invented the automobile or anti-Semitism, but he invented the mass production of both. 0.84

00:19:03.340 It's the mass production of anti-Semitism. 0.88

00:19:05.260 Yes, that's what he did. 0.85

00:19:06.200 All about the assembly line. 0.76

00:19:06.680 The anti-Semitism assembly line.

00:19:09.160 He put it in the hands of honest, hardworking Americans.

00:19:13.060 He did.

00:19:14.000 He actually printed millions of copies of his little booklets and gave them to his employees and their families.

00:19:21.360 Anti-Semitism was no longer the purview of the constabulary or the nobility. 0.64

00:19:30.020 Regular ham and eggers could be anti-Semitic. 0.60

00:19:37.080 You could say he was a patron of anti-Semitism.

00:19:41.640 And just like Enzo Ferrari tried to take American engine duty and say,

00:19:47.520 I'm a mega better car. 0.99

00:19:49.320 You had these fucking Germans say, oh, we can make a better anti-Semitism. 1.00

00:19:54.140 Some say they ruined it for everyone. 1.00

00:19:57.180 Just like Ferraris almost ruined cars.

00:20:02.440 I can't follow you.

00:20:04.040 You know what?

00:20:05.100 I think we should try an experiment.

00:20:08.960 We're making blood salad history right now.

00:20:11.160 i i'm dusting the cobwebs off of movie corner for one rare engagement except for like the

00:20:20.800 last three times but this time it's different because you and i we're going to discuss a film

00:20:27.300 that neither of us have seen

00:20:29.500 let's go man we're going to talk about joker too yeah

00:20:37.180 a lot of people have strong opinions about this movie and let me just clarify this state this

00:20:52.280 up front i have not seen this movie in neither of you but that's not gonna stop us because we're

00:21:01.020 talking about it and people we're reading all the same news and i don't even know if it's true most

00:21:06.600 of the time um but i heard people describing the movie and i'd read about the plot um through plot

00:21:14.600 leaks months ago and then it turned out it was true and um when i was reading the plot leaks

00:21:20.440 a lot of people were incensed by it right they said this is the worst sequel they'd ever seen

00:21:26.080 it's an utter betrayal of the original joker the original joker of course which was a fine film i

00:21:32.900 liked it um it was kind of a dark horse contender for movie of the year i don't i don't think a lot

00:21:39.680 of people expected it to make over a billion dollars um it was kind of a a daring film but

00:21:46.180 also not the most original thing in the world a lot they're correct when they said you know this

00:21:50.840 is a combination of a taxi driver and the king of comedy okay yeah sure you know it's it's not

00:21:59.440 splitting the atom on plot but it's got a whirlwind performance from Joaquin Phoenix everyone's good

00:22:05.480 in it and it's got I think um one of the most interesting scenes in um in recent memory in

00:22:13.540 recent film I'd say in the past few decades of course that's the scene where he confronts Murray

00:22:18.100 on the talk show and shoots him right everyone knows that scene but um I was actually listening

00:22:23.820 to Quentin Tarantino describe that movie and he had the same feeling where he's like okay yeah

00:22:29.300 you know it's I've seen it before is this just

00:22:31.440 what we're doing now we're just kind of redoing

00:22:33.540 movies from the 70s ironic that

00:22:35.400 he would say that of course

00:22:36.320 twin Tarantino of all people

00:22:39.060 but he

00:22:40.880 said but you know but then you get to that last scene

00:22:43.340 and he said and I believe

00:22:45.480 this because I saw it in the theaters

00:22:47.380 and like you have to see it in the theater

00:22:49.620 because

00:22:50.560 once you get to that part of the

00:22:53.360 movie no one knows what's

00:22:55.460 going to happen it builds up

00:22:57.360 so much good faith with the audience

00:22:59.340 and you really need to watch the movie

00:23:01.520 from beginning to end to really

00:23:03.500 appreciate that scene where it's like

00:23:04.960 there's like a tension in the

00:23:07.580 air, everyone is just so locked

00:23:09.600 into the movie and you don't

00:23:11.620 know, is he going to shoot himself? Is he going to shoot

00:23:13.480 the audience? Is Batman going to 0.90

00:23:15.560 show up? Or like a precursor

00:23:17.560 to Batman? And so

00:23:19.180 it's rare that a movie

00:23:21.660 does that and that's something I'll give the first

00:23:23.680 Joker credit for, against all odds 0.78

00:23:25.740 and made this really fucking phenomenal, tense, engaging scene 0.76

00:23:31.060 with a character that you don't really want to identify with. 0.82

00:23:38.520 And I guess this leads me into the review of Joker 2.

00:23:43.340 But first of all, before we go on, did you see Joker?

00:23:46.180 Have you been reading about Joker 2?

00:23:48.440 What do you think about all this?

00:23:49.640 I saw Joker a couple of times.

00:23:51.200 I thought it was great.

00:23:51.960 Loved it.

00:23:52.360 um i have just caught tidbits of the news i don't really pay that much attention to media news but

00:23:58.900 yeah i mean my thing and i think i had said i think we commented on this over a year ago when

00:24:04.480 the news came out that it was what's her name the jewish pianist girl well there's lady gaga

00:24:10.280 lady gaga yeah that hurts her so the lady gaga was in it and that it was extremely musical i'm 0.68

00:24:14.680 like oh so because walking phoenix who is a known gay weirdo and liberal realized that this had 0.59

00:24:22.820 become the pay into the right wing that they had to immediately ruin it even if it loses all of 0.98

00:24:28.040 its money they must ruin it and the inclusion of gay jew you know uh lady gaga and making it 0.91

00:24:36.900 musical i mean is she jewish or she's just like italian but that i mean she's italian that looks 0.99

00:24:41.480 who's everybody's jewish she's just look at her face judaism is a state of mind baby 0.51

00:24:48.320 but uh there's like jews are like i'm jewish i'm a jewish atheist no she is a 0.85

00:24:55.760 spiritually jewish italian yeah there you go but you know what i mean like it's it's it's all of

00:25:02.860 the then the film never should have happened i guess is the point the film the original film

00:25:06.400 never should have happened they did not think that it would happen it's just part and parcel

00:25:11.180 of them getting every single note wrong on every other film this is the clock being right twice a

00:25:17.940 day and they it was right in the wrong way and now they have to put the clamps on it that's what

00:25:23.800 they're doing so of course i i fully expected that the second one would not only be bad as a film but

00:25:28.980 it would be an insult and apparently it is so when i first heard the bits coming out where it said

00:25:35.600 you know it's going to be a musical i was pretty forgiving of all that just because like okay you

00:25:41.860 know what the joker was a perfect standalone film you didn't need a sequel right but if you're going

00:25:48.460 to do sequel you might as well get weird with it like hey make me yeah make it a musical i was

00:25:54.240 probably more forgiving than most leading into it and um i saw where they were gonna go with it and

00:26:01.340 a lot of people were saying you know they're going to escape from arkham asylum and they're

00:26:05.980 going to go on a killing spree i'm like this is going to be a sit in nancy thing this is going to 0.98

00:26:11.500 be a tragic fucked up love story like natural born killers a lot of people were saying like oh 0.99

00:26:16.400 it's gonna be like natural born killers and i said that doesn't interest me because i don't know 0.99

00:26:22.100 like it's too easy like they're like oh is joker gonna become the schemer is he gonna become the

00:26:26.340 supervillain now and i said i didn't buy that a lot of people wanted this character to become

00:26:32.620 the joker from the dark knight you know i mean everyone loves heath ledger's joker

00:26:38.060 but i the reason i liked the first movie was because we've seen so much of this 0.97

00:26:44.520 fucking serial killer clown in our culture haven't we it's frankly troubling how popular the joker is 0.97

00:26:53.080 and what a silly character he is and what he represents that so many of us are identify with 0.99

00:26:59.380 him um but having said that we've we've got the best versions of him for many many decades now 0.98

00:27:06.480 fucking jack nicholson's joker was pretty good too so i'm like oh well this is new this is different 0.59

00:27:11.280 so him becoming the heath ledger joker or any of them doesn't really interest me oh what's he 0.99

00:27:18.820 gonna like start making an acid flour for his lapel like this who fucking cares so like whatever 0.52

00:27:25.560 they do to surprise me i'll be on board with that right but then i started hearing reviews about all 0.99

00:27:33.320 how he's raped in prison right we got a raped joker nice you know it's 2024 guess what we got 0.99

00:27:43.720 a raped joker damn son where'd you find and uh but i said you know i heard that and i said you 0.99

00:27:50.680 know what that's not outside of his character because there's two things about this character 0.99

00:27:55.500 of arthur fleck that are interesting one he spends the entire first movie being humiliated 0.99

00:28:01.260 and crashing out like being downtrodden he gets fucking kicked in the balls by kids 0.99

00:28:07.260 and like spat upon and shit on and um he's he's he's gross he's delusional the end of the first 1.00

00:28:14.400 movie you know it's clear that he's out of his fucking mind um he's kind of a pathetic character 0.99

00:28:21.300 and that's not bad but you know it's in line with that character that he the second movie he would 0.99

00:28:27.820 be tortured and oppressed more so they're like oh they're trying to humiliate his character like

00:28:32.860 his entire character is humiliation so okay what else um and then the other thing that really stood

00:28:43.200 out to me about the film was that the first movie i think a lot of people interpreted as like here's

00:28:49.820 a guy who's been oppressed and he's mad as hell and he's not going to take it anymore and he rises

00:28:55.020 up against society right but if you look at arthur fleck you know that final speech he gives

00:29:02.620 to murray where he's like nobody's civil anymore right and you're supposed to yeah yeah no one's

00:29:07.500 civil anymore arthur is not civil arthur you know i'm not trying to disparage this character 0.98

00:29:14.840 everyone loves arthur is kind of a piece of shit um if you actually break down if you knew arthur 1.00

00:29:20.500 he's got delusions of grandeur um he's kind of pathetic he's mentally ill he's just to the point 1.00

00:29:26.500 of a disability he's kind of weird he's like he's an insane man who writes jokes about like kids 1.00

00:29:32.380 getting aids and stuff like that but he thinks he deserves fame because he's just a fucking 0.99

00:29:38.020 narcissist and sure he's had a tragic life story that probably explains it all however in any other 1.00

00:29:45.760 instance especially for us where we are politically we would say oh yeah give that guy the fucking gas 1.00

00:29:50.840 chamber this fucking weird loser but the story of him in any event becoming the figurehead of a 0.99

00:29:58.740 revolution a revolution that he didn't have an interest in participating in and the revolution 0.99

00:30:04.640 didn't understand him that's the story that was the entire story the real message of the first

00:30:10.880 movie was this is what these populist decentralized uprisings tend to do even going back to our

00:30:18.360 discussion of uh wilford bion and group dynamics it's like it tends to elect its most extreme

00:30:24.640 member as the figurehead or the leader which in most instances tends to be the most pathological

00:30:31.060 or the most extreme person so that was the story of like this revolution a justified revolution

00:30:37.620 maybe there's garbage in the streets the police are corrupt all that you know it's it's happening 0.81

00:30:42.360 for a reason however this clearly broken degenerate man somehow became to surf that wave

00:30:50.320 and isn't that weird and so the second movie promised to be what happens after that right

00:30:56.920 and like that's a more interesting story to me like what happens when that very revolution

00:31:02.960 threatens to consume him you know what i mean when he doesn't live up to its standards

00:31:08.780 and that's a very interesting movie but that's not the story about the joker breaking out of

00:31:13.820 arkham with his girlfriend and going on like a murder spree because arthur fleck isn't a he

00:31:19.600 isn't really a serial killer right he's not someone who likes to torture and plan terrorist 0.99

00:31:25.500 attacks and shit right that's what the joker is he's a guy who like bombs a hospital arthur 0.98

00:31:29.640 doesn't want to bomb a hospital he doesn't know what he wants he's out of his mind he's alone and 0.98

00:31:34.520 sad and um and so the second film was going to be that story is everything i'm saying make any

00:31:42.060 sense at all let me know what do you think about arthur fleck as a character i mean 0.71

00:31:49.540 i i kind of i disagree it doesn't matter because it's a fucking movie but i kind of disagree 0.95

00:31:56.320 on some level i do think he is a character worth i don't think he's a piece of shit i think a large 0.98

00:32:04.780 to a large extent his delusions of grandeur were were placed on top of him as a weak and mentally 0.92

00:32:11.240 broken person by a world that's he wasn't built for and that the whole half first half of the

00:32:17.460 film at least he was going out of his way to be kind and help people and to try to understand

00:32:22.340 people and try to look out for people and then everyone in his entire life betrayed him so and

00:32:28.100 then you can you can see how he builds into a more vindictive person but he really was i think they

00:32:33.620 i think they get a good job of making him an actual victim he is actually a victim and he

00:32:38.200 and as you said he definitely does have a disability and i mean the thing that i liked

00:32:44.600 about it very top level and i think a lot of people probably did was he you can without having

00:32:51.800 to see what happens after the first film we all know what happens he becomes a villain and he

00:32:55.780 becomes the most dangerous villain and everybody hates him and he kills police officers and bombs

00:32:58.920 hospitals but now remember the almost first film he kills his psychiatrist and he's got no reason 1.00

00:33:04.360 to do that he's just because are you serious are you really though because i'd fucking kill her 1.00

00:33:09.220 are you serious but why i'd shoot that bitch because she didn't fucking do anything she was 1.00

00:33:14.220 she was holding him back the entire time but like holding him back like how she didn't want to give 1.00

00:33:18.620 him help she didn't want to give him medication she's putting his problems back on him and she 0.98

00:33:22.980 she's always fucking checking her watch like she's on the fucking like the the whole point is he lives 0.99

00:33:27.560 in a world where he wants to care and he wants to be happy and nobody else gives a fuck he's he's a 1.00

00:33:32.640 he's a bug under their foot and that her attitude to him from the very beginning was you're a bug 0.99

00:33:38.480 under my foot and in if you live in a world like that where you have a gun in your hand and there 0.99

00:33:42.580 is no normative system anymore apparently i'm just a bug i guess i'm gonna shoot some people 0.64

00:33:47.040 and i can relate to that i think a lot of people can relate to that when you see a normative system 0.97

00:33:51.640 works for everybody else doesn't work for me i happen to have a gun i guess it's time to shoot

00:33:56.380 i mean that's that's the to me that's the story and it actually to me it's a it's a neat justification

00:34:02.300 for somebody becoming a villain and then almost becoming not a villain but an anti-hero in some

00:34:06.540 sense so i mean and maybe that's the difference between you and you and me or the difference

00:34:10.300 between people but like i think i don't have a problem with him shooting the psychiatrist i

00:34:14.360 clapped when he shot the psychiatrist well he didn't shoot her he stabbed her or whatever but

00:34:19.880 the point is is to the extent that he's he's attacking people who had dehumanized him and 1.00

00:34:25.560 treated him as if he wasn't worth anything and he finally snaps and he kills them all like fuck man 0.99

00:34:29.500 you do you well i mean like i i guess i just don't know what it was like a free psychiatrist 0.99

00:34:36.200 provided by the city because you know i mean like i don't his problems were too deep but they all

00:34:41.800 she said all she was like ask psychiatrist questions and then by the end of it like he

00:34:46.480 was in an asylum for shooting murray who again didn't really do anything other than you don't

00:34:51.980 think murray deserved to be shot well i don't know i hated murray yeah i know you i know but 0.99

00:34:57.140 you're a psycho do you understand that like you but you're the villain you would shoot him just 0.99

00:35:01.940 Because you don't like him on TV, but he didn't morally deserve to be killed. 1.00

00:35:06.380 I liked him because I am the villain.

00:35:08.600 That's the reason.

00:35:09.540 What did Murray actually do?

00:35:11.900 He played Arthur's tape that was sent to them of Arthur bombing on stage, doing a bad set, and made a little joke.

00:35:21.680 Because I think the joke was something like, Arthur was like, I always wanted to be a comedian.

00:35:26.560 Well, no one's laughing now.

00:35:28.760 Crickets.

00:35:29.880 And then Murray goes, yeah, I'll say that again. 1.00

00:35:31.940 and the audience chuckles and that fixed in arthur's mind that he deserved to fucking die 1.00

00:35:37.360 by doing something every comedian deals with every fucking comedian bombs on stage everyone 0.99

00:35:43.500 embarrasses themselves which tells you he's not cut out to be a comedian he's got this dream that 0.98

00:35:48.220 he doesn't understand anyway that's not the point i was making the point i was making was then murray

00:35:53.640 hears that this guy wants on says you know what i'm gonna let him on he can do his set he can do

00:35:58.580 his jokes that was he wasn't even necessarily bringing him on to laugh at him there's no

00:36:03.380 evidence that murray was inviting him on to make a fool of him he's on for ratings it was viral 0.98

00:36:09.580 within the context of the movie but he was invite hey do your fucking said do your jokes here's 0.98

00:36:14.440 here's your shot and whether or not he intended to be fucking ryan sarcastic about it all i'm 0.97

00:36:21.120 saying was we're in arthur's mind in this movie but like look at what actually happened did murray 0.98

00:36:27.320 deserved to die for making fun of a comedian bombing on stage or an entertainer doing a bad 0.91

00:36:34.200 job because if that's the case then we deserve to die and probably everyone who's listening to this 0.99

00:36:41.960 show because we've literally done that and worse so i just don't accept that he deserved to die

00:36:47.760 only within the mythology and the psychology of the movie because you could also frame that in a

00:36:54.560 movie like natural born killers or yeah they killed someone because they're rude i'm like

00:36:59.100 yeah but if you just change the music a little bit then that's very clearly a psychotic individual

00:37:04.200 i think i don't i i only half relate to natural i love natural born because it's one of my all-time

00:37:09.100 favorite movies but i only kind of relate to them they're really really over the top and they do

00:37:13.600 kill a lot of people it just makes no fucking sense but there is something like just talking

00:37:17.180 I'm going to go up to normative systems. 0.99

00:37:18.720 I do think on some level, I have an admiration for a leveling of the social sphere where

00:37:26.700 we are all reminded that, you know, in a, in a natural world, in a masculine world,

00:37:32.360 we are always one moment away from violence.

00:37:35.160 And sometimes the violence needs to be expressed so that we can kind of all reset and get back

00:37:41.440 to, Oh, this is the reason that we have politeness.

00:37:43.640 This is the reason we have civility and rules.

00:37:45.880 this is the reason we we wash our between our toes is because when you don't for long enough

00:37:51.700 eventually it starts to crumble and there really aren't any really written in stone rules why you

00:37:58.380 shouldn't shoot murray there really aren't aside from like if you have you have rules but the rules

00:38:03.460 are based on very complex you know norms and if the norms break down at the bottom they crumble

00:38:09.120 from the top and then it's like well i'm just asking the open question why not shoot murray

00:38:13.660 Well, because norms. Yeah, but there are no norms for you if you're on the bottom of the crumbling norms. Right. So I'm not I'm not trying to justify any of this. I'm just saying like you're watching even the fact that it turned into a populist civil revolt at the end with nobody understanding anything. That was just a breakdown of norms. Some people were protesting because of the cops. Some people because of rape. Some people because of garbage. It doesn't matter. Everybody's just burning and they're burning each other. You know what I mean? Like they're fucking fighting each other as much.

00:38:39.760 That's what the second movie was, because the reason he killed Murray, like you'd said, there wasn't a reason. 0.98

00:38:44.880 All the reasons he gave weren't real.

00:38:48.160 He killed him because he wanted to. 0.99

00:38:50.540 Well, I mean, Murray was kind of fucking with him. 0.99

00:38:52.560 It was made clear that Murray was fucking with him and getting a laugh out of him, that he was there to be mocked, essentially. 0.99

00:38:59.040 And it was the moment that he realized he was there to be mocked, and he's like, I'm going to shoot myself. 0.99

00:39:02.480 I was like, no, you know what? 1.00

00:39:03.120 I'll shoot you instead. 1.00

00:39:04.460 He knew he was going to be mocked going into it. 1.00

00:39:06.860 That's why he brought the gun.

00:39:08.640 You know what I mean?

00:39:09.080 but it's like yeah but he just wanted to like yeah he just felt it wasn't because society is

00:39:14.680 it wasn't because of any of the populist reasons he gave even he admitted to that if you're if

00:39:19.620 you're inside a normative system where your only role is to be chewed up and killed and you're so

00:39:23.660 convinced of that that they've even got you shooting yourself then at well like on what 0.95

00:39:28.160 who who are you to say that he shouldn't shoot murray like i applaud i applaud him for shooting

00:39:33.200 murray i know but you also just admit that it's like a psychotic act that's what i'm trying to

00:39:37.260 say here like you're also you're saying it's psychotic but also trying to add a morality to

00:39:42.020 it you can't i'm not trying to add a morality to it i'm just saying there's no there's no morality

00:39:45.940 either way morality has gone out the window so whether it's psychotic or not or moral or not

00:39:50.180 what i'm saying is it is what it is somebody opened a can of worms and now we get to watch

00:39:54.520 the whole thing fall apart but i don't like i don't like the idea of saying like there's there's

00:39:58.400 a very clear cut system of morality here and he was the one who violated it now i think the morality

00:40:04.640 switch was turned off in the first act and then everybody realizes it at different points

00:40:10.120 throughout the film so yeah well that's what i'm saying like what i was saying was that there is

00:40:15.360 no morality to what he was doing and you all you're saying i misunderstood i misunderstood so

00:40:20.000 you don't you're not saying it was immoral you're just saying it's completely it's morality neutral

00:40:24.740 it's just the act of an animal yeah like he just he just did it because he felt like he kind of

00:40:29.160 gave some reasons i totally agree he has reasons but they're totally petty reasons it's like you

00:40:33.760 looked at me the wrong way so i'm gonna kill yeah and then but then saying like yeah he's he's gonna

00:40:37.340 be he's gonna become the hero the next one like well no he can't become a hero no he's an animal

00:40:41.360 because there are no heroes right because that right but but and the idea that he would become

00:40:46.080 the villain that you know it's like well he's not that either like he's not the guy almost the

00:40:50.540 opposite of that to be honest because the thing is like he's not even trying to necessarily take

00:40:55.340 revenge on society because he doesn't have society as his enemy that's what i was trying to say so

00:41:01.040 i'm like you know i mean i'm like what does he do however the revolution that he's the head of

00:41:06.680 kind of does and they want him to be that and so when i heard the movie it's kind of about

00:41:12.460 the entire movie it's about how he's continually oppressed and beaten down so and he doesn't live

00:41:19.100 up to that idea of the the evil genius figurehead and so she kind of turns on the entire movement

00:41:26.720 turns on him because he rejects them and it that's what's interesting about and that's what i think

00:41:31.980 his character kind of redeemed he really redeems himself because he stands up and says i'm not 0.99

00:41:36.260 going to be who you want me to be i'm not going to be this fucking like clown serial killer i'm 0.97

00:41:41.440 just like i want to be happy i want to be happy in the world and i've noticed people are dying 0.98

00:41:45.420 because of what i did and that's one of the things that happens in the movie but it's like 0.97

00:41:48.140 i don't i i reject this weird fucking monster and i don't want you and then it just devours it 0.95

00:41:53.280 at the end of it because he's lost control of it and the idea of the joker as like a memetic force 0.99

00:41:59.700 kind of lives on which is an interesting idea that the guy who ends up stabbing arthur fleck 0.98

00:42:06.320 at the end and i guess he dies is sort of like the next joker who is like a fucking grinning 0.67

00:42:13.360 psychopath who has like the joker type laugh right so i was like oh joker's like this memetic idea 0.72

00:42:19.240 that's like pat maybe just goes on through these people like again that's an interesting idea and

00:42:24.340 also like the fact that he gets betrayed by a woman because in the woman's eyes he isn't like

00:42:29.260 the the sigma male that she wanted him to be i'm like that's kind of interesting um but then you 0.66

00:42:36.880 know i read what the fucking director said todd phillips because i'm making excuses for the movie 0.79

00:42:44.100 which i haven't seen i'm like hey maybe you know that is where the story would go where else could 0.98

00:42:49.600 the story go the story can't be that he escapes arkham asylum and gets away with it and then 0.95

00:42:54.900 he a few years later he fights batman that sounds fucking gay and boring right that just sounds like 0.84

00:43:00.500 you want him to be part of the dc cinematic universe oh he's gonna show up and fight robert 0.97

00:43:06.080 pattinson right like no that's let's just let's do a new thing um however according to todd phillips

00:43:13.680 this was and this is where i had to eat my hat i had to eat my words because again why am i

00:43:19.540 defending this movie i hadn't seen but then he comes out and says no this is actually to target

00:43:24.960 the macho incels who like the joker too much this is to show them you know where that leads and

00:43:32.620 whatnot so it was an attack on the joker character not only an attack on the character but also the

00:43:40.020 fans and also the people who said everything you had said which is like here's why arthur fleck

00:43:45.100 would be justified in doing this this movie was supposed to like really drill into your head that

00:43:50.960 no this is you shouldn't like him and so i guess i i don't think you can like the movie that is

00:43:58.660 but is in the second film then is arthur not aligned against the mob because then he only is

00:44:05.580 what happens is that he's in arkham asylum and he's abused by he's raped off screen by the

00:44:12.980 prisoners and they kill his cellmate who is like a crazy big fan of the joker and he arthur sees

00:44:21.620 this happen and he realizes that his being the figurehead of this movement is causing people to

00:44:27.000 end up in jail like basically he's like i'm getting people killed i need to try and stop

00:44:32.120 this because i don't want any more good people swept up in this thing getting killed and then

00:44:37.220 he tries to kind of rebel against it and then they turn on him right and then he ends up being

00:44:43.500 sacrificed for it that's the end of the movie as far as i know um or i've been lied to i don't know

00:44:50.180 because i haven't fucking seen it but i guess i'm just talking about the ideas behind it which is

00:44:56.140 and i think your points are very salient because i do like arthur fleck too i'm just trying i was 0.91

00:45:01.700 trying to step back and say wait a minute let me look at this character outside of the movie

00:45:06.320 like if i knew this guy if i read a news story about him you remember you remember killdozer

00:45:12.060 like marvin hemeyer and i know everybody everybody makes a big thing about how you know it's a normal

00:45:17.760 man pushed too far but he hey you know he was very kind that uh nobody was killed in his attack

00:45:23.600 what if somebody was killed what if uh what if he killed a police officer what if he killed five 0.99

00:45:28.120 police officers would their legend be different because you know he's a fucking legend he's like 1.00

00:45:32.620 our hero we love marvin humer he's fucking killdozer he's a fucking he's a he's a legend 0.99

00:45:37.420 is he a legend because he did all of that and he only caused damage to a public institution but 0.99

00:45:43.040 didn't hurt anyone or is he a legend because this is why he's a legend to me he went completely

00:45:47.940 fucking overboard and he put them back in their place and i think he would have been more of a 0.94

00:45:53.780 legend if he had killed like 50 cops he would have been more of a legend i'm not i'm not passing a 1.00

00:45:59.120 moral judgment on it i'm just saying they fucked with him for his entire life they ruined his life 0.99

00:46:04.000 they ruined his mother's life they didn't kill him they never even laid a finger on him but if 1.00

00:46:08.000 he went and in response to that blew up a police station and killed dozens of cops would he not

00:46:13.700 would that not be an even better expression of the legend that is marvin hemeyer i think it would

00:46:19.240 have been and i think we're we're being we're kind of we're playing some funny games with it

00:46:24.000 when we pretend that we only like marvin because he did it without hurting anybody i don't think

00:46:27.920 that's true and i think at the end the neat thing about arthur where's the kill in the killdozer

00:46:32.720 exactly exactly why is it called killdozer it should be called property damage dozer because

00:46:37.700 that's what it did right we wanted it property damage dozer because i'm dozing buddy clearly

00:46:42.540 designed to kill but it just wasn't designed that well in fairness so but the thing with him arthur

00:46:47.980 fleck being a meme the joker being a meme it's like maybe we don't like arthur fleck as much

00:46:54.740 as what we as much as we like what we think arthur fleck represents and to the extent that

00:47:00.340 we realize arthur fleck is himself a broken man and a coward we actually throw him away because

00:47:05.240 we don't you're right you're right director we didn't really like the soft boy who just wanted

00:47:10.620 to be loved what we liked was unrestricted violence against a system that doesn't care

00:47:15.700 for us anymore and doesn't look out for our interests we want to level the playing field

00:47:20.000 with pure violence and and again not passing moral judgment not saying that's what i want

00:47:25.620 but this film clearly created a reaction and you you understand that so well that you spent

00:47:31.120 hundreds of millions of dollars that you're not getting back making a terrible film to try to

00:47:35.340 tamp that down again and apparently maybe not doing a great job of it so like the fact that 0.98

00:47:41.780 he came out and had to explain that tells me that there's a bunch of fucking eggheads like me out 0.89

00:47:49.100 there looking at this and saying you know what i'm choosing to interpret this in my favor but 0.91

00:47:54.740 i mean it's funny because that was the problem with the first film because you can interpret

00:47:58.220 the it's not hard to interpret the first film as you know sad boy wants to be loved to make

00:48:03.320 some mistake and this is why you shouldn't have heroes something along those lines totally fair

00:48:07.300 that's the liberal interpretation of it but the right-wing interpretation of it is you can only 0.96

00:48:11.460 push a man so fucking far right yeah you should only push a man so far and killing late night 0.97

00:48:19.580 hosts is cool and good like falling down is another one like falling down was not meant to be 0.94

00:48:25.080 about he wasn't supposed to be a hero michael douglas was not supposed to be a hero in that

00:48:30.920 film but he is he's a legend now so yeah falling down was a strange example because the movie

00:48:37.120 really wanted you to believe

00:48:39.120 that he was in the wrong

00:48:41.520 by the end of it because

00:48:43.140 I don't think a lot of these filmmakers

00:48:44.960 could ever anticipate

00:48:47.340 that many of us would consume their

00:48:49.460 films in clip format

00:48:51.120 so when people

00:48:53.360 watch Falling Down now

00:48:55.060 they only watch like five clips

00:48:57.380 from the movie they don't watch the full movie they watch

00:48:59.340 the scene with him with the Uzi 0.99

00:49:01.360 ordering a fucking burger and a few others 0.99

00:49:03.580 right because that's the parts they like 1.00

00:49:05.280 but they don't want to watch the end

00:49:06.940 where it's the standoff

00:49:09.100 and he ends up getting shot and he's like

00:49:10.720 but wait, I'm the bad

00:49:13.060 guy? And then he dies?

00:49:15.800 That's the movie saying, yeah

00:49:16.940 guess what? He was the bad guy.

00:49:19.240 He realizes he's the bad guy.

00:49:20.680 The fact that he asks the question proves that he's not.

00:49:23.020 The fact that none of his

00:49:24.840 violence was anywhere near as

00:49:27.040 bizarre and gratuitous as

00:49:28.900 the violence of the government that he was fighting against

00:49:30.820 and when he got to

00:49:32.960 the end, he explicitly

00:49:34.740 decided multiple times to not

00:49:36.760 kill his wife his daughter and the good cop who were the only three good characters in the entire 1.00

00:49:42.460 fucking film he was a weird psycho everyone else in the film was meat undeserving of life and then 1.00

00:49:50.120 you had three characters even the wife was kind of a bitch to be totally honest but he didn't kill 1.00

00:49:54.820 her and he loves his daughter and he saved the cop's life by suicide by cop essentially so like 0.97

00:50:00.220 you can't tell me he's the villain dude he has more moral fiber than anybody he killed right to

00:50:04.960 the end he's i agree with that i'm saying the filmmaker was telling you yeah yeah they're 0.99

00:50:09.800 trying to they're trying to telegraph that with all of the but like you should have just fucking 0.58

00:50:13.340 said it you should have just had a role at the end michael douglas character in this film was 0.93

00:50:16.740 the villain because and even then we're like we're not going to believe you because you

00:50:19.460 well the other classic case like it's it's the filmmaker scared that they could be interpreted

00:50:26.340 because if that movie was being honest it would be michael douglas saying i'm not the bad guy

00:50:31.460 that's what he should have been saying he should be saying like yeah i did everything right i didn't

00:50:35.300 i didn't point it out to you but you shot me anyway he should have done something he should

00:50:38.940 have done something callous like a kid drops an ice cream cone and gets in his way and he throttles

00:50:43.540 the kid and throws him off the pier or something like if he had to done that okay he's the villain

00:50:47.220 now now he's the villain but he didn't do anything like that he should have smiled and said i am the

00:50:52.020 good guy after all like he's sure he is now that would have been the better there's so many ways

00:50:56.600 to do this but they didn't and you know what i think it's intentional because you know what

00:50:59.920 they're doing this is the conspiracy side of it they are trying to create what is actually a model

00:51:06.440 of people breaking out of a normative system and fighting back against it and saying if you do that

00:51:12.240 you become a villain it's just that every time they do it in all of these dozens of films where 0.91

00:51:16.280 they've done this they can't they can't pour enough shit on the guy we can still see through

00:51:21.960 it and say oh no that guy's clearly he's clearly the hero you wonder the last movie where this 0.98

00:51:27.300 actually happened the way we want it to happen

00:51:29.360 was and I don't know

00:51:31.260 there's probably other cases but

00:51:32.820 Death Wish like the

00:51:35.160 Charles Bronson movies where like I remember

00:51:37.260 watching the first one he just gets away

00:51:39.420 with it he spends the whole movie

00:51:40.900 shooting bad guys

00:51:43.260 degenerates not even like working his way up 0.87

00:51:45.280 the ladder he just ends up shooting like 1.00

00:51:47.020 fucking black teenagers with switchblades 1.00

00:51:49.300 in the street many of them like totally unrelated to 1.00

00:51:51.240 the crime that killed his wife or whatever

00:51:52.800 he's just like he's just finding dudes

00:51:54.460 he did it such a good job and the police were so mad 0.98

00:51:57.080 it's like just get the fuck out of town please stop stop owning at crime and then he's like all

00:52:03.140 right and then they do more movies but that was it like he was never portrayed as the villain i 0.98

00:52:08.680 think you have to go back to the 70s to see something like that i remember dirty harry

00:52:14.020 uh with clint eastwood uh great film going after the zodiac killer um as far as i remember he was

00:52:22.480 portrayed as the hero in that however the director hated the character and in interviews he was

00:52:28.400 describing dirty harry as like a fascist call him a fascist and a racist too because he does a bunch

00:52:33.660 of racist things and that's why in the subsequent films magnum force i think was the next one 0.69

00:52:39.160 they had to really sanitize dirty harry so the next movie the villains were renegade cops

00:52:45.480 the the villains that he had to take down and he not only had to take them down he had to hate them

00:52:50.800 too were a bunch of like traffic cops who were just extra judicially exterminating criminals 0.97

00:52:56.860 usually black guys and he had to like is it that these are the worst killing people without a trial 1.00

00:53:02.920 you know like that shit then they'd make him into a faggot because too many people liked dirty harry 1.00

00:53:09.160 too many people liked the idea of like hey here's a cop with a big gun who's who's shooting all the 1.00

00:53:14.760 black criminals because it's cool and then of course ultimately they make grand torino which 0.98

00:53:20.100 the ultimate betrayal of that archetype but like with the first with the first dirty harry if that 0.96

00:53:24.340 was what it was about and the goal was for him to find the zodiac killer why couldn't they make him

00:53:29.200 totally fail the mission and fuck it all up and then it's like see racism doesn't pay kids but in

00:53:35.200 the end it actually was like a glorious coup for him and he won and everything was fantastic he's 0.99

00:53:40.340 the only one who killed the zodiac killer you guys suck at writing films you're bad at this

00:53:45.920 what you're trying to make a villain but you make the villain good at everything and always wins and 0.98

00:53:51.720 then gets the girl and then roll credits oh but he's really really racist isn't that awful like

00:53:57.240 no now racism is cool you made racism cool the same way you made smoking cool yeah like yeah

00:54:03.200 and so they they need to just like with joker 2 they need to do a course correction

00:54:07.620 because i think in their minds they're thinking oh the first joker that was like a satire but

00:54:13.340 what were you satirizing what was the subversion there right like i could watch that movie like you

00:54:19.280 did and i liked arthur but like i said just you know a few minutes ago i was trying to view him

00:54:24.680 from a different perspective as like an undeserving hero like maybe arthur actually is just kind of

00:54:30.300 like a crooked because they try to paint a subtle portrait of him in the second one where and this

00:54:37.320 is something the director said later like maybe he even imagined shooting the wall street guys

00:54:44.160 originally remember in the subway have you not imagined shooting the wall street guys give me 0.88

00:54:49.180 a fucking break no no but no i mean like like like like arthur did like i know what i'm saying 0.95

00:54:53.440 i'm speaking to the director here i'm like you're impugning a character for thinking about killing 0.99

00:54:59.900 random guys on the subway who you watch senselessly beating a homeless man thinking about killing

00:55:06.340 those guys who are in the act of almost killing someone essentially defending someone like that's

00:55:12.580 crazy to me basically he's trying to say like he took credit for another person's crime and so like

00:55:18.460 he's not even the vigilante anymore he's like just a guy who shot murray on tv and like lied

00:55:25.940 didn't know he was lying but lied about so once you start entering into the record that oh maybe

00:55:31.820 all the cool stuff that you like never even happened first one and why put it in the film

00:55:38.160 but also like not saying it saying like i was trying to tease that i was trying to tease the

00:55:42.860 audience that maybe it's an unreliable narrative no you didn't do you're teasing it now years later 0.97

00:55:47.480 after you see the follow from the film you faggot it's out of control because to me he also if he 0.96

00:55:54.220 doesn't make a third one then the second one really is just an apology for the first yeah 0.98

00:56:00.220 because a trilogy would be like

00:56:02.180 oh I was going somewhere interesting but it's like

00:56:04.200 no I just it was good nope nope he's 1.00

00:56:06.280 raped he's raped and haha 1.00

00:56:07.960 and you shouldn't do that 0.99

00:56:10.040 if any of you were thinking about

00:56:12.240 shooting a late night host

00:56:13.880 like I don't know just to name some

00:56:16.280 Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert

00:56:18.680 Seth Meyers

00:56:20.000 not Craig Ferguson

00:56:22.140 he's out baby

00:56:23.340 Conan O'Brien just has a podcast we only have

00:56:26.520 the worst guys in there

00:56:28.240 right now

00:56:28.800 have you you out there have you ever thought of shooting steven colbert and how funny that

00:56:34.840 would be and how everyone would cheer don't do it if you had to arrest everybody who had ever

00:56:42.280 thought about shooting colbert because it'd be funny and everyone would cheer

00:56:46.020 there would not be enough space in the prisons in any country not even in ecuador like it's

00:56:52.680 it's unthinkable it had the wind at its sails and so if it's failing then that means this isn't just 0.94

00:57:00.100 a failure it's a rejection it's a rejection by fucking everybody even people who hated the first 0.81

00:57:06.500 movie they hate this one more so that's an interesting phenomenon to me anyway beautiful 0.98

00:57:11.580 longest the longest movie corner we've ever done for a film that neither one of us have seen

00:57:17.740 so before we move on and we probably should have led with this instead of spending 0.97

00:57:23.800 two and a half hours on that fucking film what do you make of this hurricane hey oh 0.97

00:57:31.800 these hurricanes right these couple a couple there's another one nadine i think after milton 0.99

00:57:36.740 is coming in there is i'm just on buddy i'm still in milton hurricane milton has barreled

00:57:43.340 into florida with historic fury unleashing powerful winds and catastrophic flooding while

00:57:49.320 producing an already deadly storm surge it could be the most powerful hurricane to hit the tampa

00:57:54.400 bay area in more than a century tonight more than 2 million people are without power as milton's

00:58:00.180 storm surge threatens destruction in the dark with roads underwater as it continues to rise

00:58:05.800 this milton one sounds like an end of days storm i mean on some level they always say that

00:58:13.320 don't they but uh it does sense that i'm reading about it's it's kind of um touching not touching

00:58:20.140 down but it's breaching into florida and the hurricane is causing tornadoes i didn't know

00:58:26.100 that could happen that's wacky i haven't seen that before yeah i'm reading about it on the bbc 0.88

00:58:31.680 now it's making landfall and there's there's fucking tornadoes popping up millions fled the 0.92

00:58:38.140 state throughout wednesday as dozens of tornado and storm surge warnings were put in place 0.95

00:58:42.500 um the noa noted current forecast suggests conditions will favor supercell development

00:58:49.720 with a potential for tornadoes um so yeah apparently i didn't know those two went hand in

00:58:56.020 hand like that or could but it's a tornado hurricane which is something i thought i invented

00:59:01.820 when i was a kid yeah when you first learn about weatherstorms like what if there was a tornado

00:59:06.980 I mean, this is just not long after the battering of the Appalachians from the last hurricane.

00:59:15.800 That was eye-opening.

00:59:17.840 We saw an aerial view with the Civil Air Patrol.

00:59:21.680 We toured Marshall, a small community whose downtown is destroyed.

00:59:26.400 Now, we made our way to Asheville to see damage there.

00:59:29.420 All you see is dirt and mud.

00:59:31.660 Quite a bit of cleanup will have to take place.

00:59:34.540 Now, we also saw what's left of Chimney Rock.

00:59:36.580 it is a popular tourist town that has lost so many buildings for the one thing and i don't hear

00:59:43.020 this talked about quite as much obviously because the the ongoing horrific tragedy uh but the degree

00:59:50.540 to which the infrastructure there was just not prepared for this uh my wife and i for the longest 1.00

00:59:56.520 time because we love to laugh at the misfortune of the chinese because we hate the chinese 1.00

00:59:59.120 and uh we love to laugh at their hundred year floods because they have a hundred year flood 1.00

01:00:03.380 there like every two years which is hilarious and they're waiting for the three gorges dam to break 0.94

01:00:09.280 and we're looking at the is that just like a chinese thing because i remember hearing them 0.85

01:00:12.100 saying like oh this is like an ancient egg it's like an a it's a thousand year egg and it's just

01:00:17.440 like an egg they buried for two days like water in watershed management when you say a hundred

01:00:21.220 year flood you mean statistically the type of flood that only comes around a hundred years

01:00:25.760 every every 100 years statistically so statistically if you're you're if your

01:00:30.600 dam is built to withstand a 100 year flood on average it will last 100 years before

01:00:35.620 meeting something that breaks it or if you statistically have a thousand year flood so

01:00:40.340 in the three gorges dam is built to withstand drum roll a thousand year flood but then they

01:00:45.520 keep hitting the thousand year flood limit like every 18 months because it wasn't actually

01:00:49.960 well they're like oh this is crazy the gods hate us we're having thousand year floods no

01:00:56.160 you just didn't build it for a thousand year flood you think you did but you didn't but my 1.00

01:01:00.020 what i'm saying is like we're always mocking them because they're very obviously full of shit when 0.99

01:01:06.060 they say that they have the infrastructure and they say that they're first world and they're 0.99

01:01:08.980 this and they're that but then you see the devastation when they have a little bit of

01:01:11.920 rain and entire villages are washed away tens hundreds of thousands dead but then you look

01:01:16.380 at north carolina and it's actually this it's the same scenes that we've been watching in china over

01:01:21.780 the past five years where entire towns whole like valleys and switchbacks of roads the landslides 0.80

01:01:28.120 that cover like entire sides of villages and like holy shit man like i know the storm was bad

01:01:33.740 but for it to be for the damage to be that widespread and i am by no means blaming those 0.85

01:01:40.740 people i think those my whole point here those people have been had have had their you know the

01:01:48.160 government turned their backs on them essentially a long time ago the fact that we built the

01:01:51.900 infrastructure we settled people out there and then we have not clearly we have clearly not

01:01:57.320 been maintaining it. FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell said today the agency's disaster relief

01:02:04.160 fund is down to 11 billion dollars after it spent about 9 billion on its response to Hurricane

01:02:08.940 Helene. I'm going to have to evaluate how quickly we're burning the remaining dollars within the

01:02:15.460 disaster relief fund to see if I'm going to have to go back in and ask for additional funding

01:02:21.220 sooner than what Congress is going on right now.

01:02:25.620 Dams and levees and bridges that were meant to withstand

01:02:28.220 a certain level of rainfall and a certain amount of damage

01:02:31.720 were clearly not built to spec because look at what has gone on.

01:02:35.760 Like, I know that Hurricane Helene was bad,

01:02:38.580 but correct me if I'm wrong, to my knowledge,

01:02:40.580 it was not a thousand-year hurricane.

01:02:43.140 It was a bad hurricane, but it wasn't like world's worst hurricane.

01:02:46.860 It was just the first one that had hit that district, 0.95

01:02:48.800 and nobody's been fucking you know checking the receipts in that district for 30 years apparently 0.97

01:02:54.060 and i wonder fucking why right when it is actually the last vestige the i mean people don't like this 0.98

01:03:02.440 but to me it's like ethnically the the american colonial heartland kind of like it's the last 0.99

01:03:08.800 the last little fortress of people who are to some degree untouched by the bullshit 0.57

01:03:15.300 you know notwithstanding their poverty well and also you know for these people they must be asking 0.99

01:03:22.560 themselves as we all are as we should in canada what the fuck do your taxes go towards if not 0.53

01:03:29.320 that's what i'm talking about so not only was was the place not built or maintained enough to

01:03:34.920 withstand this but now that it's been destroyed there's people there who have been there weeks

01:03:39.800 now without food water or power kamala harris goes into a neighboring state not even their 0.94

01:03:45.040 fucking state and offers them a paltry 750 loan per family and they have to sign up on their own 0.99

01:03:54.440 which i guess they have to drive for or get internet for which they don't fucking have 0.99

01:03:58.340 so what is this and at the same time just since the storm happened there have been billions sent 0.95

01:04:05.040 to both lebanon and israel who are using the money to shoot each other and not that's before we 0.93

01:04:12.320 mentioned ukraine and all of the other like everywhere like what the fuck i'm not even an 0.88

01:04:16.360 american but for me there have been many times in my life when like turning points for me as i grow

01:04:22.520 as a person i say yeah things really are that bad and they can get worse what is going on right now

01:04:27.460 in north carolina is one of them i knew that the american government was callous and was more

01:04:32.840 interest in geopolitical games than their own people but this really put a point on it that

01:04:39.000 when you have an area where the only people who live there are true true ethnic americans white

01:04:45.860 and black right and you're literally ignoring them as they are dying by the tens of thousands

01:04:54.660 and ignoring them in a very callous way literally brushing kamala's doing the hand wave motion for

01:05:01.160 the news being like we don't we don't have the money we don't have the time for that yeah let

01:05:04.880 me just to back that up i'm looking at the associate press right now ap news mayorkas

01:05:09.980 warns that fema doesn't have have enough funding to last through hurricane season 0.55

01:05:14.360 what the fuck does that mean how how what what do you mean you don't have what else are you

01:05:19.700 foia came out just a couple weeks ago i think fema has a slush fund of seven billion dollars 0.98

01:05:26.040 that is earmarked to help, quote unquote, help people at the border, essentially to pay for

01:05:31.940 hotel rooms and flights and resources for illegals crossing the border. So they have $7 billion.

01:05:39.320 Apparently, FEMA has redirected billions of dollars in aid from the emergency fund to

01:05:45.920 illegal migrants. Now, FEMA and the White House is denying this, but White House Press Secretary

01:05:51.680 Corrine Jean-Pierre back in 2022 laid it all out. Watch this. FEMA regional administrators have

01:05:58.920 been meeting with city officials on site to coordinate available federal support from FEMA

01:06:05.160 and other federal agencies. Funding is also available through FEMA's emergency food and

01:06:11.000 shelter program to eligible local governments and non-for-profit organizations upon request

01:06:16.600 to support humanitarian relief for migrants.

01:06:19.520 We'll continue to do what we can as a federal government

01:06:23.420 to support these cities as we rebuild our asylum processing system.

01:06:28.620 But they say they do not have enough.

01:06:30.760 Not only do they not have enough for more than 750 loan

01:06:34.180 for people in North Carolina,

01:06:36.160 but they apparently don't have a single penny

01:06:38.320 for the upcoming victims of Milton and Nadine.

01:06:44.540 I think it's Nadine, the third one.

01:06:46.020 I don't remember.

01:06:46.600 yeah a lot of people are trying to blame this on climate change that's become the narrative

01:06:53.700 the narrative that should be is everything you had just said which is that the american heartland

01:06:57.560 is being abandoned by the federal government wholesale and based on the reports that i'm

01:07:03.620 hearing coming out of the appellations in north carolina and elsewhere fema and other actors are

01:07:10.400 trying to stop individuals from administering aid and um we happen to have a member of the blood

01:07:18.020 satellite extended universe on the ground there you know there's quite a few people who are

01:07:22.180 attempting to report from the area that are areas that are impacted by him um our very own meta prime

01:07:30.360 is down in the region he drove down with a couple other people that we know and uh he has been

01:07:37.460 trying to help out trying to allocate uh donations because it's a bunch of logistics work down there

01:07:44.380 there's no shortage of private individuals who are trying to lend a hand in whatever capacity

01:07:50.740 they can one of them is actually just sending food and supplies um and the stories that i'm

01:07:57.200 hearing and the problem is there's so much hate to use this word misinformation but disinformation

01:08:02.300 floating around and saying like people on the ground saying we're starving fema is here they're

01:08:08.700 not doing anything um there's people who are trying to help us out and deliver aid they're

01:08:14.380 being turned away these reports are being you know dismissed by the media as just you know i guess

01:08:22.100 disaster grifting in a sense oh every time there's a disaster there's people who claim it's worse than

01:08:27.400 it is but i don't know these sound like legitimate reports right um especially if fema is saying we

01:08:33.340 don't have money to help these people um so yeah anyway like that's what meta privacy is saying

01:08:38.540 like look you know i'm in an area that's not badly affected there's a hub here that's for

01:08:43.540 distributing uh supplies and whatnot but there's way way worse areas and what you're hearing is 0.96

01:08:48.600 true like people are stuck up there and they're fucking they're on the roofs they got no food 0.70

01:08:53.600 they got no way in or out and and then the compounding effects of these other hurricanes 0.88

01:08:59.840 you know as centers of gravity for all the rest of the media it's like there's a very real scenario

01:09:06.460 where these people are just abandoned in the coming weeks because the news cycle has moved on

01:09:11.020 and so this has been a real signal flare for a lot of people on our side to really try and i've seen

01:09:18.920 a lot of guys like donating running donation drives and doing real work to try and help and

01:09:25.600 it's very it's heartening to see that you know at the end of the day who are the ones showing up

01:09:31.220 you know so anyway that's i what i'm saying is i tend to believe the stories coming out of the

01:09:38.660 regions and i don't believe the stories telling you like it's not so bad fema's doing their best

01:09:44.100 and the people saying that they're dying actually they're they're trying to make money off of you

01:09:49.440 no have you heard that i have heard that and i considered like to what extent are these you know

01:09:55.960 these people are just trying to grift to try to get donations but of all of the different avenues

01:10:00.760 because i like besides meta i'm in a couple of other chats with people bushcraft guys who have

01:10:06.140 also flown down there and are reporting live and these are people that i have interacted with and

01:10:11.360 trust and i've seen they're essentially reporting all of the exact same thing that fema is not

01:10:17.240 helping in some cases fema is making it worse fema is confiscating things and fema is like

01:10:22.220 common taking control of of the command of local fire departments and police departments to block

01:10:26.840 roads to prevent people from traveling in under a number of different excuses which from a

01:10:31.020 bureaucratic level makes sense but they're excuses that turn food and supplies around send it back

01:10:36.760 And then people on the other side of the road literally just die. They just die. So for me, after I get all of that input, I'm like, OK, so definitely I'm sure there's misinformation on both sides. But 100 percent, that angle of it is true. There are people dying. FEMA isn't helping. And FEMA is definitely turning volunteers around. And for that to happen even one time is totally unacceptable.

01:10:58.360 And the fact that they're making a pattern of it, like it's a system, makes me angry at all the people that I've argued with over the years and anybody into the future who wants to tell me that the system isn't broken beyond repair.

01:11:11.980 We just need to take control of it and we just need to fix it.

01:11:13.960 And we just need to, you know, we just need the right leadership.

01:11:16.480 We just need the right leadership.

01:11:18.100 Like, you know, we don't need the right leadership.

01:11:19.400 i think there was there was a a story that came out just this afternoon of a county sheriff there

01:11:24.760 who had taken his deputies and run fema out of town at gunpoint um so that they could actually

01:11:31.180 distribute food because fema had confiscated all the food and everyone was hailing him as a hero

01:11:35.780 i'm like that's actually and i'm sure he's gonna go to prison but like he how many lives how many

01:11:41.660 people are alive today because of what he did so um yeah like i was saying before like what's going

01:11:48.080 on in north carolina and we're not even through this yet because milton may actually be worse

01:11:51.840 is is a reminder that you cannot at any time trust the government and it doesn't matter who's in

01:11:57.920 power it doesn't matter if trump wins or polyev wins the system is what it does our institutions

01:12:03.340 are not designed to help you they're designed to take your money and the way they take your money

01:12:07.480 is making you believe they're going to help you but they have basically the story here they don't

01:12:12.080 even have the tools to help you they don't know how to help you they don't even know the first

01:12:16.540 steps to help you they're not here is literally that they have money but it has to go to illegal

01:12:22.260 immigrants or israel well and even with story somebody had reported back because they had some

01:12:26.760 documentation from one of the camps where fema had taken their stuff and they said they have the

01:12:30.860 stuff we're not confiscating it we're going to distribute it but our contract with the vendors

01:12:35.280 the suppliers of aid is that we must by contract deploy the aid from the con from the primary

01:12:42.620 vendors first and then we'll take the volunteer aid and the primary aid hasn't arrived yet because

01:12:48.560 it's tied up on the west coast so there's these big corporations that got tax breaks to donate

01:12:53.980 food and supplies and they are bringing them over but like they might be here in a week they're not

01:12:59.660 here we don't know where they are they're coming believe me they're coming but we can't give your

01:13:02.960 stuff out because if we do it's a contract violation because we promised that in order for

01:13:07.900 them to get the tax break and then to give us the donation that we'd give their stuff first with

01:13:11.800 their labels on it that's essentially what's going on that's one of the rationale which is a completely

01:13:15.940 believable cluster yeah but again if you've ever dealt with the government because the system is

01:13:21.160 what it does what is the purpose of fema is fema actually there to help people no fema is there to

01:13:26.220 collect tax revenue it is a rogue institution like all the alphabet agencies it's a rogue institution

01:13:31.440 it's a bureaucracy unto itself whose sole purpose is to collect money for its beneficiaries who are 0.67

01:13:37.760 its employees and i'm sure some who the fuck knows but the point is they aren't actually 0.90

01:13:43.180 designed if you pick it if you dissect those institutions at a bureaucratic level and you 0.94

01:13:47.160 look at the divisions and and the the employees and the software and the the personnel and the

01:13:53.660 infrastructure that they have the equipment that they have they have garages you know fema especially

01:13:57.100 has garages and warehouses with stuff all over the place if you took all that apart i guarantee you

01:14:01.780 you would not find a machine designed to save lives you would find a machine designed for 0.94

01:14:06.620 political parade well because i remember hearing stories about all that fema was capable of

01:14:13.100 deploying at the drop of a hat when it was covid related you remember how fast fema was able to

01:14:20.040 pull up all those basically concentration camps for covid people in all those hospitals weird

01:14:25.860 right fema was they have that overtime yeah they have that they have body bags they have they have

01:14:30.780 it's crazy like i mean uh alt has talked about this before and i've looked this up this is 0.94

01:14:34.980 actually fucking real they have like enough body bags like two for every fucking living person 0.93

01:14:39.080 they have an insane number of body bags and like uh pressed plastic coffins they have that 0.99

01:14:44.840 they have enough to bury all of us but do they have food for all of us no they just have the

01:14:49.620 coffins and the body bags and you can say what you want about triage i get it i totally get it

01:14:53.540 but to just make the assumption that we can spend our entire budget on body bags and the food budget

01:14:59.400 goes to the foreigners that we literally don't have a food budget for our own people we don't 0.53

01:15:04.860 have for example generators water purification you see there was one they sent a pallet of a

01:15:10.300 battery operated chainsaws for clearing uh trees from the road to a region that hasn't had power

01:15:16.120 in two weeks and probably won't have power until 2025 like that is you know what that is though

01:15:22.420 if you look at them they're chainsaws brand new in the box dewalt i wonder why you didn't just go

01:15:29.380 and get chainsaws and deliver them you got a contract with dewalt who's paying to have their 0.98

01:15:34.140 fucking thing on the front but they're fucking electric yeah like i look at that and i'm like 0.97

01:15:38.020 i don't know it precisely how yeah but this is money laundering somehow there's something going 0.99

01:15:44.300 on here and dewalt by the way is is israeli this is well known now that their stuff is all made

01:15:48.660 in israel so really i didn't know that i didn't think i didn't know it until recently so one of

01:15:52.560 the guys in the chat brought it up but yeah go figure but and there's milwaukee but i'm sure i

01:15:57.780 don't know i think a lot of them are made by the same company i'm not of course milwaukee's made

01:16:01.580 in romania of course of course like the canuck shotguns are made in hungary i'm like okay well

01:16:07.360 it's hungary's okay but why do you call is it you made them for canadians what does canuck mean

01:16:13.500 hungarian canuck was rn word you don't get to use that anyway you know this is as usual a developing

01:16:24.300 story um and uh thoughts and prayers to the people of florida who seem to be taking in stride i'm

01:16:31.260 hearing stories that uh sex offenders and pedophiles are being hard for hurricane shelters

01:16:36.500 i love that you know i was looking at a map today i was looking at um recording a real secret coffee

01:16:44.380 hours i was looking at gun crime statistics and i was looking at sort of the heat map of america

01:16:50.000 where the most gun crime is and that whole southeastern region of you know alabama all that

01:16:56.700 region you know the heavily black area highest rate of gun crime not texas of course not

01:17:02.520 albuquerque but over there except for florida it's like red red red red and then florida

01:17:07.600 somehow with like one of the lowest gun murder rates in the country i'm like you know like 0.96

01:17:13.360 florida's got it figured out florida gets a bad rap for being just full of crazy people 0.99

01:17:18.640 and asshole losers but i'm like everything i hear coming out of florida i like 0.99

01:17:24.280 i've never heard a florida story that didn't make me want to move there even the even the wild ones 0.99

01:17:29.580 they're certainly entertaining yeah i mean it's it's a show for sure

01:17:33.020 so if more of america behaved like florida i think we'd be in a better place and by we i mean

01:17:41.520 canadians who believe sometimes that we're in america yeah we do we we have our our one eye

01:17:49.020 open and yeah it's true like they florida i think has some of the coolest gun laws too i think they

01:17:55.800 have that castle doctrine law right a couple of states do i think florida is one of them yeah

01:18:00.420 which is just one of those laws that makes sense if someone breaks into your house you should be

01:18:05.880 able to shoot them and then of course people say well that would set a precedent like what happens

01:18:11.460 when people start luring people into their house like okay well find me that story i'll wait find

01:18:18.000 me this story i would love to see it i'd show me one where a family of four lured in a black

01:18:24.940 teenager just to kill him yeah i think part of it is the ability to like in a lot of places you can

01:18:31.420 shoot in self-defense but uh only after retreating and if you can't retreat further then you can shoot 0.99

01:18:37.740 but the castle doctor and you just you see him you shoot him i mean it's you know what simple 0.95

01:18:42.040 here's another one for you it's only it's only murder and nothing else get rid of manslaughter

01:18:47.540 i don't want it anymore get them off the books replace it with man's laughter

01:18:52.380 because that's what i'm doing yeah just have a journal

01:18:55.920 give me the 20 to life for man's laughter this is blood satellite

01:19:00.180 really there shouldn't be manslaughter it's either you killed someone with intent

01:19:07.700 or even in the heat of the moment but if you if it's an accident it's an accident 0.70

01:19:13.900 manslaughter doesn't shit happens 0.73

01:19:16.440 I never really understood that 0.91

01:19:17.860 like putting people in prison for an accident

01:19:20.500 like again it's a bad accident

01:19:21.900 but if you really think it's an accident

01:19:24.300 then why I mean

01:19:25.880 give him the lashes or the pillory maybe 0.81

01:19:28.200 or like make him carry

01:19:30.200 a heavy stone around for a couple days I don't know

01:19:32.180 but prison

01:19:33.240 manslaughter if I'm in a fight if I'm in a fist

01:19:36.280 fight and everyone knows

01:19:38.200 it's a fist fight it's not just me wailing on

01:19:40.240 someone with a crowbar if it's a fist 1.00

01:19:42.180 fight and they get hit and then they their head hits the pavement and then they die fuck it fuck 1.00

01:19:48.780 it i don't yeah fuck it everyone who fights knows that's part of it if you don't want to risk 1.00

01:19:53.240 hitting your head on the curb then don't get into a fight the other guys the other guys going at it 0.99

01:19:57.040 could have been you you know what i mean it could have been you most of these crimes you either 0.99

01:20:02.100 lash the guy and let him go cut his finger off or something or you just kill him but this whole 0.99

01:20:06.900 thing of putting people in a fucking cage for 30 years and we got to feed them and we got to put 1.00

01:20:11.680 lights in there and you gotta have 0.99

01:20:13.260 a doctor like it's

01:20:15.800 just it's a grift they're just trying 0.99

01:20:17.740 to get our money they don't fucking care about these 0.98

01:20:19.760 people if you fall down 0.98

01:20:21.880 everyone says it like it's the most common thing

01:20:23.680 in the world if you fall down in a way where you're

01:20:25.720 you're brain dead after

01:20:27.200 you had no business fighting like I've been 1.00

01:20:29.720 in fights in the street I've gotten

01:20:31.660 knocked down in street fights

01:20:33.700 before and it never

01:20:34.980 got clocked and tipped backwards

01:20:37.820 90 degrees like Bugs 0.99

01:20:39.640 Bunny when he just smelled a fucking skunk 1.00

01:20:42.180 Attack my neck. 1.00

01:20:43.920 They should lash that guy. 1.00

01:20:45.200 That's the guy who should get punished, 0.98

01:20:46.320 the guy who fell over back.

01:20:47.280 Humiliation.

01:20:47.980 Lash the corpse of the guy who dies 0.91

01:20:50.040 falling down and hitting his head 0.63

01:20:51.460 in the pavement in a fight. 1.00

01:20:53.620 We're going to start the Canadian 1.00

01:20:55.080 corpse lashing party. 0.97

01:20:57.660 Yeah, why not?

01:20:59.200 Think of all the money you would save

01:21:00.880 with getting rid of manslaughter

01:21:02.060 and you can just move it right

01:21:03.540 into corpse desecration.

01:21:05.120 Yeah, where you just punish

01:21:06.560 the corpse of the victim. 0.99

01:21:08.800 These loser corpses that need to be 0.99

01:21:10.940 taught a lesson yeah the weak should fear the strong the dead should fear the alive and laughing 0.99

01:21:18.840 the dead should fear the laughing yes nice the dead should fear the weird and alive

01:21:26.760 you know what maybe that's a good lead into the next topic because we don't have nearly enough

01:21:32.860 time to discuss everything for the books that i would like to discuss but i kind of want to play

01:21:39.820 this one a bit loose um so over the past few episodes we've been doing reviews we did Mein

01:21:47.660 Kampf we did My Life by Oswald Mosley and I wanted to incorporate so American the American

01:21:57.660 perspective American white nationalism um and so I'd started with a very popular figure in these

01:22:07.340 circles george lincoln rockwell and his book white power george lincoln rockwell for those who don't

01:22:14.700 know was the leader of the american nazi party i do not believe in dictatorship and we don't believe

01:22:22.240 in the narrow nationalism of hitler either i believe there's got to be international order

01:22:25.460 i think the un is communistic and it's got to go but we've got to replace it with some kind of

01:22:29.180 international i would say nazi type order why then use the term nazi which is an origin which

01:22:34.880 came from the nazi hitler party because the word nazi is very clear to people it means race it

01:22:41.360 means standing up for the white race people know that and it also shocks people awake a lot of

01:22:45.840 people will remember his or seen images of his hate bus you know he was a very striking figure

01:22:52.320 he had his sort of corn cob pipe um fit guy steely-eyed very american looking figure i'm

01:22:59.200 dressed in the nazi garb swastika and all driving something called a hate bus around america

01:23:03.600 provoking the press provoking people and but you know the american arts were a real organization

01:23:10.120 it had offices and um so i was reading it um and to be completely honest i wasn't

01:23:18.680 terribly impressed by this book which isn't to say i didn't like him but just i was reading

01:23:25.540 white power and uh the first thing you notice as you're reading it it's that every sentence

01:23:32.100 gets a hard return after so it's incredibly spaced out it's like and the font is like a huge

01:23:39.140 size font and so i'm like oh man this is like a hundred page book they're really stretched out so

01:23:44.760 right out the gate i'm not loving it and then as i'm reading it it's written very basically what

01:23:51.800 it seemed like to me is if you remember in mein comp hitler was saying that even in his youth

01:23:57.140 he was aware of anti-semitism and he had access to anti-semitic pamphlets and he always thought

01:24:04.360 they were very low class very boorish and he's like i don't i don't give this is gross i don't

01:24:09.520 want anything to do with this right that's what it kind of reminded me of reading my where it was

01:24:14.640 written in a very like you know he he was capitalizing words every so often for emphasis

01:24:19.920 but it so just sounded like a first draft rant right and what i was trying to read it for was

01:24:28.340 the history of the american nazi party i'm very interested in how that organization gets run

01:24:32.740 stories of its formation what how you know how it was dealing with the state the you know legal

01:24:39.580 system and all that i'll get to that in a second as i was reading and i'm like ah you know this

01:24:44.900 really doesn't stand up against Mein Kampf and even he references Mein Kampf in it and I said

01:24:51.080 well the book should have been just you saying read Mein Kampf then but and then I was thinking 0.90

01:24:56.880 oh man this doesn't make the Americans look good oh shit there's another one I forgot of David Duke 0.59

01:25:02.760 and then so I'm like you I should also do I should read My Awakening by David Duke 0.97

01:25:07.880 and of course over a thousand pages long i would say a far better book however as you're starting

01:25:17.120 to see i'm kind of covering both of these side by side and there's not nearly enough time to cover

01:25:23.600 both in full but i just wanted to kind of tee this up with you were you aware of either of

01:25:29.040 these figures and if so what do you know about them i mean david duke is a he's a family name

01:25:34.960 for a bit of a worse so i'm kind of aware of him and uh rockwell i i haven't read anything that

01:25:42.200 he's written and i was always kind of a fan of him as a character like the way that he dressed

01:25:48.380 and his mannerisms and then when i started reading it a little more he really does seem like a like a

01:25:54.240 bit of a dope like um he really was not an intelligent person and everything that he did

01:26:00.200 was borrowed and he was not he thought i think he generally thought took himself seriously but

01:26:04.380 it seemed like most of what he did was very

01:26:07.140 unserious, but

01:26:08.600 still a really, I still think he's a cool guy

01:26:11.180 like he's a really neat guy, we have a lot of guys

01:26:13.220 I'll say this, we have a lot of George Lincoln

01:26:14.900 Rockwells today in terms of

01:26:17.040 the role that they play. What's interesting about Rockwell

01:26:19.240 is that his career

01:26:20.940 was in the military

01:26:22.520 they call him Commander Rockwell for a reason

01:26:25.220 so he has this

01:26:26.760 very disciplined, militaristic background

01:26:29.180 I said

01:26:31.240 something I'm going to say again and I want to see

01:26:33.080 How many people will laugh this time?

01:26:36.640 I want to hear you peace creeps laugh.

01:26:39.320 Right at this minute when I'm speaking,

01:26:41.240 there are American kids getting killed over there fighting communism.

01:26:45.380 And when I said that on November 27th,

01:26:47.620 a bunch of you peace creeps laughed.

01:26:49.360 Now laugh.

01:26:50.580 Come on, let's hear you laugh.

01:26:53.920 I want these conservatives and these right-wingers

01:26:57.140 to think we're going to win this thing

01:26:58.600 by passing on literature to hear you people and see you apes. 0.95

01:27:03.080 You civil rights apes laughing about American kids getting killed. 0.65

01:27:10.700 For 20 years, I fought in the United States Navy.

01:27:14.160 I heard you down there when Captain Patler said I was on the USS Wall Street.

01:27:18.080 Do you think that's funny that there's guys out there in the Wall Street?

01:27:20.800 How many guys think that's funny that there's guys out there fighting?

01:27:23.880 Go on and laugh.

01:27:25.480 And in his own words, and David Duke, as we will see, was a fan of Rockwell.

01:27:31.020 And he defended Rockwell, as many have, by saying that the sort of the image he concocted for the public was to be controversial.

01:27:42.940 He tried to play a dope in his words.

01:27:45.100 But then when you would invite him to debates or he was speaking to the press, he would bust out the more verbose rhetoric.

01:27:53.920 Right. And so it was a bait and switch in his words.

01:27:56.880 And I'm sure that's what he was doing.

01:27:59.260 they called it media jujitsu is how they referred it's how he referred to it right

01:28:03.820 and i believe that is to be the case i think he was rather intelligent but again even just reading

01:28:10.800 the book i'm like who is this for because i guess my main point is that the the american nazi party

01:28:18.740 swastika and all was rising during a time when anti-semitism was while not popular at least

01:28:27.580 more acceptable in many parts of the nation and it is in a country that already had the ku klux

01:28:33.100 klan so you already had a white it's a very strong streak of white nationalism and white

01:28:41.220 supremacism throughout america with hundreds of thousands of tens of thousands but you know

01:28:46.700 hundreds of thousands of members and sympathizers so then you're adding to that the american nazi

01:28:52.520 party it just seemed unnecessary and he had this uh one story in the book and i'm trying to see if

01:29:00.100 i could find it here one of the uh the um campaigns they ran that he was very very proud of was there

01:29:07.720 was this um black congressman of running for office um and they decided it was a good idea

01:29:15.780 to show up at one of his speeches dressed in blackface and just do a shucking and jiving 0.58

01:29:21.500 oh lordy lordy eyes eyes running for congress and and in his words he's like and and a lot of them

01:29:29.040 laughed and it was a great success and as i'm reading and i'm thinking even back then i don't

01:29:34.900 think that hurt his reputation i think that might have worked in his favor i don't know what that 0.74

01:29:39.900 really accomplished that would be if you wanted to you know combat a jewish judge right and all 0.70

01:29:47.620 he did was show up with like a big fake nose oh i love circumcised babies you know it's like 0.90

01:29:55.040 okay thank you sir you know like i i will take that under consideration when voting for this 0.99

01:30:02.800 fucking this this this man who's spent millions of dollars on his campaign to become a judge 0.98

01:30:08.220 you know i mean so i'm like i some of their campaigns like the hate bus you're driving 0.99

01:30:13.000 around in a bus with the word hate bus on the side and parking at music festivals i'm like okay i get

01:30:18.520 this gets pressed but i don't i don't know if it's really helping and maybe that's unfair and

01:30:25.780 i'm trying to give this a lot of credit and i'm not saying he's dumb i'm not saying it was a

01:30:30.240 failure but i'm just like it might have not been necessary in an era where there's already there

01:30:35.720 was a captive audience waiting for this message and i think it put forth the worst version of

01:30:40.660 that message yeah what do you think of that yeah no real like you just it's kind of a cope by the

01:30:46.980 way get closer to the mic if you can oh sorry sorry he's kind of a cope to just say oh he was

01:30:50.760 really good at you know just uh getting getting the message but yeah what is the message what is

01:30:55.140 the purpose here and this like i said this is something that we struggle too with you know right

01:30:59.720 now where we say you know we just got to get we got to get more people together we got to get you

01:31:03.640 know get the audience we got to get the listeners we got to get the clicks like for what what are

01:31:07.740 you doing what are you organizing who's going where what is the hierarchy what are the goals

01:31:12.140 how are you measuring the goals you know what are the the the kpis of what's going on there's

01:31:17.500 nothing and i feel like that was exact that was you know uh george lincoln rockwell to a t it's

01:31:23.100 like you were absolutely you're a darling of the media in terms of for better or worse keeping

01:31:27.540 everyone's attention but to what end right like nothing that you would had planned could ever

01:31:33.740 have conceivably worked and i don't think nobody told you that i think probably a lot of people

01:31:39.020 not just your detractors but your friends would have told you george how does this turn into a

01:31:44.740 changing government to the benefit of white people it doesn't it to a large extent it turned you into

01:31:51.960 a laughingstock you know in the public sphere so anyway well and that's what he says here if i can

01:31:57.200 just um summarize what he says i'm skipping ahead here i'm going to get to some other stuff you said

01:32:02.500 But I think this summarizes his point of view.

01:32:05.120 He says, such things as Mercury and the Birch Society also kept the steam pressure of emotions down in millions of Americans who are already informed, who feel like as long as such things as Mercury are published and Welsh is petitioning to impeach Earl Warren, something is being done.

01:32:20.300 These good people are fooled by the constant advice to write your senator into imagining that we can somehow petition or talk our way out of tyranny.

01:32:28.600 worst of all these papers and societies are financial leaks which keep the right wing bled

01:32:33.900 there simply is no money for the battle no money for the bullets and powder because because it's

01:32:39.380 all been spent on firecrackers uniforms the band pictures of the enemy exciting rallies and bedtime

01:32:45.440 stories for the troops these weak right wing leaders for who for 40 years or 50 years have

01:32:51.700 been preaching a million different tricks to avoid the desperate dangerous fight which is always the

01:32:57.060 price of any victory are approaching the end of the road our motto here is white men stand and

01:33:03.040 fight for survival with us or stand out of our way mr aqua how many people do you have now in

01:33:08.300 the american nazi party we have about 1100 members about 500 stormtroopers and what is your platform

01:33:15.660 whether you you have campaign for office haven't you i ran for governor last month in virginia and

01:33:21.340 the main thing that we are fighting for is the preservation of the white race we think the white

01:33:26.180 Grace is what has made possible the American Constitutional Republic, which we think is the greatest form of government in the world. 0.90

01:33:32.500 There's really the one thing I could say about the book that I really liked was he's fairly explicitly saying, like, look, the conservatives are only there as a pressure release.

01:33:45.380 A lot of these right wing publications, I'm the most extreme one.

01:33:48.780 I'm the most extreme guy.

01:33:50.600 I'll I'll own up to that.

01:33:52.100 That's what he's saying.

01:33:52.740 And he's saying we need to be ready for fight.

01:33:55.780 i mean really fight and i mean that this is going to be bloodshed and you need to be prepared for

01:34:00.780 bloodshed and anyone telling you any different is just trying to grift off you anyone telling

01:34:06.660 you any different is just trying to get you onto what he wouldn't call this but basically a content

01:34:11.740 plantation and i do basically agree with that that's the conclusion a lot of us have come to

01:34:16.520 which is like so there is a war like yeah sorry i didn't mean to interrupt but like i just want to

01:34:22.660 what I was trying to say like he's beyond the content plantation he's reached step two which

01:34:27.340 is like hey violence and action is required in order for progress to happen and and then and

01:34:35.360 then so like you you you have the realization that the violence and the action is required

01:34:41.120 but then you're essentially you're still stuck at platitudes which is better than the content

01:34:47.000 plantation because you're not grifting you are teaching and you are rallying people but you're

01:34:51.740 not you're rallying them to an empty room and then they're getting frustrated and dispersing

01:34:56.440 on their own and to my understanding that is actually what happened with his people like

01:35:00.900 they didn't actually you know storm the federal reserve or anything did they no well he he's got

01:35:07.280 some interesting stories here that you know give a different you know sketch of what the american

01:35:13.800 nazi party was like versus the british union of fascists and then versus the nazi party and then

01:35:19.280 versus the ku klux klan and maybe we won't get into my awakening today because maybe that should

01:35:24.200 be its own thing and i'll probably make that its own episode because we could actually just spend

01:35:28.240 the rest of the time here on this knowing that in the future we will get to david duke and the ku

01:35:34.040 klux klan which are very distinct entities i would say better like if i had to pick a book

01:35:40.520 one book to give to a prospect let's say to give them the whole lay of the land i might pick my

01:35:48.880 Awakening by David Duke it's over a thousand pages and like Mein Kampf which was around 800 plus

01:35:56.000 it spends a good chunk of it because that's not just a thousand pages of his life many many pages

01:36:01.220 huge sections of it are just him explaining basically how he got red pilled he didn't use

01:36:07.560 those words obviously but him saying like I was a young man here's how I got hip to the JQ here's

01:36:13.160 how i got hip to the race question all of it and he it's pulling all kinds of data all kinds of

01:36:19.100 stories all kinds of news clippings he did and for his credit that's what george lincoln rockwell

01:36:24.420 does here like he's trying to say like here's how i learned about the jq and here's all the stories 0.62

01:36:30.480 and here's how it affected fucking george mcgovern and all these other people so i won't spend too 0.63

01:36:37.700 long on that but um i think i would give my awakening to someone who was unsure about what 0.83

01:36:44.600 they felt about this whole space and i think if they just read that one they could get everything

01:36:49.440 they need to know just like mind comp like if you give someone mind comp say honestly just 0.95

01:36:55.340 fucking read this they'll get it and and they'll be surprised at how much just fucking history and 0.86

01:37:02.500 information is in there um and i would say my awakening actually has a bit more and it's more 0.99

01:37:08.240 contextualized to the modern american or the modern canadian because there's some parts of

01:37:13.940 mind comp that are distinct for germans it's a very german book but if you want something that

01:37:18.640 you can relate to more be my awakening i i probably wouldn't show them white power i don't

01:37:23.980 think that's the best version of these ideas i think that's as maybe nice as i could be however

01:37:30.520 you learn a few things in this

01:37:33.020 there's one story that he

01:37:35.200 gives that I love and it was a great

01:37:37.260 I believe this to be true

01:37:39.040 so I'm not just going to say up front I don't think any

01:37:41.220 of the stories he's saying are

01:37:43.140 him lying there's one

01:37:45.140 story that I think gives a good idea of how

01:37:47.260 his organization functioned

01:37:49.200 so he's telling a story about

01:37:51.280 how he's in his office one day

01:37:52.580 and these guys

01:37:54.200 especially these kind of mid 20th century

01:37:56.980 outfits they spend a lot of their time

01:37:59.480 printing things they own their own printing

01:38:01.480 presses and so they're always making

01:38:03.540 flyers always making books and they

01:38:05.420 spent that was like their job so if you

01:38:07.540 worked like he did for

01:38:09.440 the organization you're probably in the

01:38:11.580 printing room so he's telling

01:38:13.420 the story middle of the day he's

01:38:15.360 printing some stuff he's

01:38:17.420 covered in ink some

01:38:18.940 burned out beatnik

01:38:20.940 wanders into their front office

01:38:23.600 speaks to the receptionist

01:38:24.880 wants to know about this

01:38:27.000 george lincoln rockwell guy he's heard about him he's heard about a man so he doesn't describe him 0.98

01:38:33.280 but just imagine just the fucking circular glasses reeking of weed and piss and wearing some 0.96

01:38:38.320 you know this cashmere sweater you found in a dumpster and uh you know george comes out 0.99

01:38:47.480 and he's talking to him because he'll talk to anyone and this guy wants to hear about this

01:38:52.420 nazi thing man and then so he's answering questions it turns out that this this lib this

01:38:58.140 progressive guy he's had a real checkered past and you know he just wants to kind of take a bite

01:39:03.820 out of these nazis anyway over the course of the story he's just they're going back and forth and

01:39:09.200 then it turns out that this beatnik he'd like killed someone done some time in prison and he

01:39:14.280 was just on a downward spiral planning on killing himself he just thought this could be like a last

01:39:19.020 cool thing before he dies long story short guy goes away comes back and then becomes like

01:39:26.080 george's right-hand man you know he ends up rhetorically convincing him as a white man to

01:39:33.020 join the party so you know but that is how this organization would function i think at its best

01:39:40.360 it would be all these people kind of like the church of scientology would like how many people

01:39:47.480 would because we used to do this back in the day in toronto there was a church of scientology there

01:39:51.880 you would hear about it right you would hear that there's auditing machines in there so you'd go in 0.95

01:39:56.820 and be like yeah i'm gonna fuck with them right i want to get in there we're gonna prank the 0.99

01:40:01.080 scientology guys how many people went in there looking to prank or fuck with them and ended up 0.99

01:40:06.880 getting audited or ended up you know with a friendlier opinion of them there is something

01:40:12.160 to be said for luring people in expecting the worst and then surprising them by not being

01:40:19.040 the outlandish villain they think that you are okay like i'll accept that okay

01:40:23.700 but i think that's what they could do is like look i we're the most hateful people in the world

01:40:29.360 but then you will only attract weirdos you'll only attract the dregs of society i think like

01:40:35.760 you won't attract normal people right it's impossible for you to attract or magnetize

01:40:41.880 like highly skilled or disciplined people even if they are friendly to your views they would stay 1.00

01:40:47.100 away you could only bring in like the fucking stoned out of their gourds hippies and then hope 1.00

01:40:53.080 to turn them and hope that they don't betray you later because they're just unhinged in a lot of 0.99

01:40:58.480 different ways you couldn't detect you know what i mean like saying we will attract the best quality 0.99

01:41:02.880 people by being the worst we can possibly be is like it is on its face the stupidest way of 0.99

01:41:07.840 approaching it like why like for example why not just take the you know the evangelical christian 0.98

01:41:12.880 route and just be the best you can possibly be and through works people will you know like even

01:41:17.980 we all know this now as as right-wing groups like people going to north carolina to help with the

01:41:23.060 reconstruction and at some point during that you can drop your name and say i'm part of this group

01:41:27.180 wow that must be a really great group right instead of just like hey we're gonna march and 0.98

01:41:31.920 harass black churches 0.99

01:41:34.000 or whatever. 0.99

01:41:35.620 Why?

01:41:37.760 You're just pissing everyone off.

01:41:39.300 He says here on page 88,

01:41:41.840 for the first time with the arrival

01:41:43.560 on the American scene of the American

01:41:45.800 Nazi Party, there's now a 0.98

01:41:47.760 spiritual force to look these Jew 0.99

01:41:49.620 terrorists in the eye when they 1.00

01:41:50.980 start that, you're a Nazi, bit, 0.99

01:41:53.760 and reply, you're damn right we're Nazis 0.99

01:41:55.820 and we will soon enough 1.00

01:41:57.880 take care of you traitors, thieves, liars, 1.00

01:41:59.860 terrorists, and communist enemies. 1.00

01:42:01.920 When they do, the reaction of the American white man will make the Jews get on their knees and pray for Adolf Hitler to save them. 0.99

01:42:09.300 The revenge taken upon them by their outrage hosts will seem like heaven compared to the ferocity of the white American once he has had all he's going to take from these arrogant Jews. 0.99

01:42:18.860 So he's saying, this is just rage porn. 0.99

01:42:20.900 This isn't anything.

01:42:21.660 Like, that's totally not backed up by any action or anything.

01:42:26.700 You just wait. 1.00

01:42:28.260 You just wait till these Jews see what we're going to do to them. 1.00

01:42:30.920 yeah you think so right exactly and the running theme of the book is using a ship metaphor that 1.00

01:42:38.580 oh america is a ship and there's certain people steering the ship and the they have their first

01:42:43.840 mates and it's kind of a heavy-handed you know military metaphor that i don't think does does

01:42:51.000 the book any service you know it's kind of reductive so i'm just making a note of that

01:42:55.340 that I don't love the ship 0.99

01:42:57.320 thing in this fucking book 0.98

01:42:58.800 yeah he's got an example here 0.99

01:43:03.320 of the type of stuff he used to do he says I was invited

01:43:05.200 to speak to the collegiate burning

01:43:07.300 bush club and accepted without

01:43:09.120 knowledge that was mostly a black outfit

01:43:11.220 they gave me a street

01:43:13.200 address that turned out to be an 0.85

01:43:14.660 X store front church in the heart

01:43:17.360 of black Washington 0.96

01:43:18.380 I learned that it was the bunch that

01:43:21.280 produced the Stokely Carmichael and 1.00

01:43:23.220 rap brown once i walked in that black mob i was not about to back out or crawl out so i spent 0.98

01:43:28.680 about two hours speaking to them and answering their questions or rather defending myself from 0.99

01:43:33.120 their bitter jabs several times particularly when one black girl got up and read the contents of

01:43:38.360 the entire boat ticket to africa it was nip and tuck whether i'd get out of there alive but i

01:43:44.500 managed to keep the black mob sufficiently interested in what would happen next to sit

01:43:48.220 still until i left but i wouldn't have missed that experience for anything those revolutionary 0.95

01:43:52.640 black youths made no secret of their plans to seize america by violence and bloodshed

01:43:57.800 and then he continues on here and this is sort of the the attitude i was describing before 0.96

01:44:05.140 he says there's no cure for the coming population horror other than to kill nature did the killing

01:44:11.660 by natural selection since the beginning of time uh the birth control advocates with typical

01:44:16.520 liberal cowardice and short-sightedness do their killing by unnatural selection by cowardly murder

01:44:22.220 before the people they kill have any chance to argue their case nature would never have allowed

01:44:27.040 this crazy overpopulation to arise um to restore order and peace we're going to have to make two

01:44:33.700 decisions number one the white man must once again become the absolute master of the planet

01:44:39.240 and two forceful authority and order must be responsible must be restored as the first need

01:44:45.460 of our whole world the people are to be able to go about their business without constant fears of

01:44:49.820 war so it is a truly white supremacist organization more so than hitler in my opinion i don't think

01:44:56.240 you would hear hitler's say anything like the german like the german race needs to subjugate

01:45:02.320 the entire world i didn't read that he also wouldn't say white he'd say german which is

01:45:07.100 another and a lot of this stuff kind of gets degraded over time yeah um and he even says here

01:45:12.920 you know giving some some viewpoints some view into what it was like running the organization

01:45:17.740 He says, as the months wore on and we began to see our small savings diminish with no signs of any real progress, I began to get a case of the desperationitis so common to the right wing.

01:45:29.600 I begun to meet a large, unorganized, but regular circle of patriots, which exists everywhere and discuss all kinds of trick methods of spilling the beans on Jews all at once.

01:45:40.380 there were endless plans for dropping the whole story out of airplanes by the millions on the 0.72

01:45:45.100 public while the helpless jews watched the leaflets flutter down in a rage these wild ideas are 0.64

01:45:50.900 actually as you read this being discussed by otherwise intelligent people somewhere people 0.74

01:45:56.300 who are simply too overwhelmed by their own timidity and ignorance to see that even if they 0.86

01:46:00.680 did these nasty tricks on the jews there would be no result at all people are more inert than 0.99

01:46:06.480 is possible to believe even after he discovered this fact now i do agree with that his criticism 0.98

01:46:11.660 there is that even back then there were so many people hoping to red pill people on jews to to

01:46:18.700 you know to name them publicly right even george lincoln rockwell was saying like what's that

01:46:24.720 gonna fucking do like you could broadcast this on every tv station in the nation but no one's going

01:46:30.260 to do anything so ultimately like i do agree with that statement in the book like it's not just about 0.96

01:46:36.860 propaganda it's not just about letting people know what's going on and there is some truth to

01:46:43.680 the fact that he's like look even back then he's like the we're in such a state where violence is

01:46:49.920 the only solution and your point is obviously correct it's like well what are you what are

01:46:54.120 you doing about the violence other than playing these pranks you know i'll give you an example

01:46:58.700 the prank here this is what i'll end on here he says um and this is in reference to the story i

01:47:05.440 told you about that young hippie who came into his office he says as a matter of policy whenever i 0.97

01:47:12.720 hear that as i do every day i'll i can do all i can to discourage the applicant we want no dabblers 0.78

01:47:19.620 but dedicated fanatical fighters with who will stick through hell itself within 11 months faster

01:47:26.840 than almost anybody before since this kid became an officer in the storm troop section

01:47:32.600 and led more successful operations against the enemy than any single party officer 0.93

01:47:41.780 with one possible exception an example of this work of this kid was the was the time the black

01:47:48.500 agitators were trying to unseat the white mississippi delegation and our own blackface 0.63

01:47:53.320 delegation sent the black agiteers packing back to mississippi as laughingstocks my ex beatnik 0.93

01:47:58.920 managed to race on the floor of congress on opening day in blackface with a top hat loincloth and 0.93

01:48:04.900 cigar shouting eyes de mississippi delegation and i demands my seat there will be many who will say

01:48:12.360 that he could have been saved perhaps even more effectively by religion 50 years ago yes but i've

01:48:16.980 had years of experience seeing that those lost kids on college campuses all over america it takes

01:48:22.780 a new and shocking approach, a dramatic and powerful approach to have any hope of making

01:48:28.640 an impression on such lost, bitter kids. We have it, and it works. So I think that illuminates

01:48:36.000 his entire reasoning. He's thinking, how do I get the youth? Well, I need to be shocking.

01:48:42.420 However, it's my view, and I've said this before on the show, and I think you agree with me on this,

01:48:48.720 But the problem with employing the swastika, and I mean the swastika as it's employed by the Nazis, not some Indo-European version that sometimes we'd like to talk about, but the Nazi swastika, it doesn't, in my view, work on Americans, not because it's edgy or not because it's controversial and sensationalist.

01:49:18.720 in fact the main reason it works is because it's edgy you know libs used to love the swastika in 0.69

01:49:25.180 the fucking 90s they used to wear swastika pins because of the edginess because they're contrarians 0.54

01:49:30.120 we might the swastika might be one of the most popular images on the internet right now 0.93

01:49:35.200 but it's not because people really believe in it and the reason i don't think the swastika works

01:49:41.320 for north americans or white people in the west outside of germany is because it seems foreign

01:49:48.140 and that's it that's really it's it's not practical it's not effective it's not that

01:49:53.960 it's too scary it's that when people see that they think of hitler they think of germany that

01:49:59.700 doesn't really speak to the american soul the white american soul and it never will and i argue

01:50:06.680 that insofar as it does have any traction with white americans especially white american men

01:50:12.700 it is only because it's contrarian and edgy and you're doing it to own the libs but for really

01:50:18.340 being honest with ourselves the american nazi party is just that the american version of the

01:50:25.380 german party the national socialist german workers party but it's not an american invention 0.99

01:50:29.480 it's a fucking franchise and it was never going to be that popular because it's just a fucking 0.97

01:50:36.420 american franchise it can never and it's right beside the ku klux klan which is a 0.99

01:50:42.220 wholly uniquely american institution right so to me like you're kind of setting yourself up to fail

01:50:50.360 and i don't think even if your goal was just to be extra sensational to get the youth involved

01:50:57.080 i just don't even think it was that sensational not really not compared to the kkk which is

01:51:02.140 already kind of you know clandestine and and shadowy and kind of cool the young people anyway

01:51:08.600 like i don't know that's just what do you think about that i think um the comparison to the kkk is

01:51:17.320 interesting especially in george's own terms so the kkk to a large extent was formed from

01:51:25.160 um the boys who were loyal to the south to continue the war by other means after the south

01:51:33.960 lost and they were as much you know some people like to downplay it but they did actually do a

01:51:39.580 lot of killing they did a lot of killing not just lynchings of blacks but they killed a lot of

01:51:43.860 whites they killed a lot of people who were like who yankees people who were sympathizers people

01:51:48.640 who were involved in in the war in various capacities so it wasn't just violence it wasn't 0.98

01:51:55.360 just terrorism it was like actual political violence now they weren't successful but they

01:52:01.060 were at least another couple of steps down the road that george himself says is the road that

01:52:06.120 george talks about the road requiring action and violence and then he dresses a guy up in blackface

01:52:12.100 in a one cloth and a cigar and sends him to congress so i mean there's what the guy says

01:52:18.640 and then what the guy actually does like i was joking about it before that um on some level

01:52:23.660 our our george lincoln rockwell today is nick fuentes but there's a lot of them right that they

01:52:30.000 like they have the they have the symbology or they have the memes like nick is such a glorious

01:52:36.380 anti-semite because it kind of because it sells on some sense and he's always about getting the 0.98

01:52:41.180 group together and he's always about the clicks and the memes but um what do you fucking do buddy 0.51

01:52:46.240 you don't do anything you know he's got a very interesting life story like here here's a section 0.93

01:52:51.860 and we can end on this he says when i got back from fighting world war ii i truly believed all

01:52:57.500 the propaganda that had helped the good guys fight the world's last war the war to see that

01:53:02.260 there was no more tyranny and aggression i remembered that the world declared war in effect

01:53:06.920 on germany from marching into prussia and silencia ex-german states which had become

01:53:11.780 poland and i was as i was told to get these people out from under the tyrants that i risked my life

01:53:16.580 and saw thousands die but then i watched our leader our leaders giving all these countries

01:53:21.260 i was supposed to be fighting for to free to soviet russia i thought i'd save czechoslovakia

01:53:27.040 Poland, Hungary, Romania, Yugoslavia. Then I couldn't help notice that we had not stopped

01:53:32.440 tyranny in those countries. Instead, it seemed to me, by fighting in World War II, I had helped

01:53:36.780 turn most of the world over to the Soviet Union and communism. In fact, reviewing my career in

01:53:42.960 World War II, I came to the conclusion that I am a Soviet war veteran. I fought to turn over the 0.96

01:53:49.140 major portion of the earth's surface to the Soviets. And there is something very powerful 0.76

01:53:54.520 there of a man who fought in world war ii and i believe i believe on the korean war as well

01:54:00.100 but at least world war ii he feels like he's got he's got blood on his hands he feels betrayed he

01:54:06.700 feels like he has betrayed the world he he feels like he fought for his enemy and there's something

01:54:11.880 very very powerful about that i bet a lot of other veterans relate to that and i can't help

01:54:18.840 I feel that if George Lincoln Rockwell has this charismatic figure,

01:54:24.320 because when people look at the American Nazi Party,

01:54:25.780 he is a striking guy.

01:54:27.700 You hear him in speeches, you see his picture,

01:54:30.880 and the things he dared to do,

01:54:33.100 he was a very interesting, magnetizing guy.

01:54:37.300 I'm like, just imagine what he could have done 0.92

01:54:39.420 if he didn't walk around with a swastika armband. 0.94

01:54:43.780 Is it possible? 0.68

01:54:44.600 Because I think the American Nazi Party lives and dies on this one leader. 0.51

01:54:48.840 this one leader who could gather people around him, right? 0.67

01:54:51.920 But imagine if he did something else, you know, as actually, you know,

01:54:55.860 David Duke did, he later on, as we'll get in the book,

01:54:58.080 like he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan,

01:54:59.880 but eventually he wanted to break from that and start something more legitimate

01:55:03.600 because he wanted to part ways from what he saw as the, um,

01:55:08.260 these decentralized factions within the KKK, giving them a bad name.

01:55:12.640 He's like, no, I need something that I can control,

01:55:14.940 that I can get more normal people involved because I can't control 0.99

01:55:18.680 these fuckers over here but just imagine if george lincoln rockwell had done any other pro-white 0.99

01:55:24.640 organization and wasn't trying to start a nazi franchise in america i think he could have done 0.99

01:55:30.360 a lot better you know and what do you think about that absolutely like get rid of the swastika name

01:55:35.520 it something like you know patriot front and then name it name it something that people can actually

01:55:39.640 get behind and then give it a mandate like go and actually help people and raise funds and

01:55:45.880 provide education build schools and hospitals and and you know provide training for people

01:55:51.520 and back up families when they lose their jobs like do the things that an actual you know

01:55:57.780 essentially a i don't want to call it a fifth column but do things that like a a parallel

01:56:02.800 you know normative governing organization would actually do you know do those things the kkk did

01:56:09.920 actually do those things it was a brotherhood to the extent that they they provided a lot of

01:56:15.740 support and you know for their members to my understanding none of that ever existed within

01:56:22.320 the american nazi party so definitely the fact that it's called the american nazi party the

01:56:26.300 fact that it was a huge problem but the other large problem with it was it was literally just 0.96

01:56:31.220 a uh it was a fucking book club you know or not just a book club because they did like protests 0.95

01:56:37.520 and pranks but again protests pranks and speeches but like you got to have more than that it's got 0.99

01:56:44.360 to be a lot more in a time where if you went to a lot of these small towns in america you were

01:56:48.600 walking into it like this is when they probably were sundown towns like there were places that

01:56:53.520 were already hip to these questions and you could have really gathered them together with a different

01:56:59.320 sort of populist movement but i i do think this would have i don't know created a distaste for

01:57:05.440 anti-semitism and anti-semitic places um just because you're dealing with people who you know

01:57:12.260 they would have also just fought world war ii and maybe they didn't even though they might have

01:57:16.560 agreed with all the racialist stuff they still don't like nazis because they watch nazis kill

01:57:22.600 their friends like it would be like and we've seen this on our side where guys start waving the

01:57:29.380 taliban flag or the al-qaeda flag you know right after 9-11 because they hate america expecting a

01:57:36.040 bunch of like white guys or veterans aside i'm like okay whatever you might think about this

01:57:41.120 of rebellion against america you're preaching to people who also don't like the taliban have

01:57:45.580 been fighting the taliban like you're getting in your own way because you can't just design a new 0.97

01:57:51.280 fucking logo like you're making this harder on yourself to sell this it's interesting actually 0.97

01:57:57.840 he mentions that he had fought through he said the czech republicans some other places there 0.99

01:58:01.200 places that then became part of the soviet bloc but what about like my grandfather and a lot of

01:58:08.360 others who fought on the western front and liberating france like for the men liberating

01:58:14.000 france and then looking at france afterwards like maybe we don't agree with everything that

01:58:18.040 happened to france afterwards but to a large extent france in the 1950s was was politically

01:58:24.120 having a better go of it than we were with if you look at at immigration and in the political scene

01:58:28.940 between canada and france in the 50s and 60s so i mean i think if i were my grandfather having

01:58:34.740 fought to defend france from the germans without being an anti-semite i would come away and say 0.94

01:58:40.280 you know what i'm glad i did that fuck the germans the french are doing great now but yeah i get it 0.95

01:58:45.360 like if you fought in the czech republic and you see what the soviets did there after we left like 0.99

01:58:49.740 oh geez yeah kind of regret going but uh he's acting and this is a common thread with him he

01:58:57.120 really is not a very bright he's a very short-sighted guy he's just assuming that that

01:59:01.380 experience is common to all vets of those wars a korea would be another one i think korea is

01:59:08.120 almost more fair like i think a lot of guys who went to korea it's like why are we here what the

01:59:13.200 why the fuck are we even here but at least then it was largely volunteer so yeah anyway we can

01:59:18.780 leave it there and we will get to um david duke's next time but i we ended up spending more time on

01:59:23.780 this than i was intending but i'm glad we did because i wanted to treat it seriously and i

01:59:29.060 wanted to give credit where credit's due

01:59:31.260 and mention the parts

01:59:33.060 that I do like.

01:59:34.980 Because, you know, there's

01:59:36.960 other people within the space,

01:59:39.160 including David Duke, who speak very

01:59:40.820 fondly of Commander Rockwell.

01:59:43.920 So even if we

01:59:44.980 don't like it, a lot of people were able to see

01:59:47.140 the benefit, I guess.

01:59:48.620 There you go. Different strokes.

01:59:50.600 We'll continue this more next time. Anyway.

01:59:53.380 Thank you for taking the time. I'll talk to you

01:59:55.060 later, man. No worries. I'll see you.

01:59:59.060 Great to have you here, man.

02:00:13.780 I just want to let people know I'm just checking to make sure that we're live everywhere.

02:00:17.580 Looks like it.

02:00:18.680 Perfect.

02:00:19.140 I'm here.

02:00:19.660 I'm really, really excited for this one.

02:00:21.020 I got a lot of people who are really excited for this one.

02:00:24.420 I'm here just to tee you up.

02:00:26.740 I'm here with the one and only Clay Martin.

02:00:30.280 So, first of all, thank you very much for taking the time for sitting down with me today.

02:00:34.500 Hey, brother.

02:00:34.860 Thanks for having me.

02:00:35.500 I appreciate it.

02:00:36.500 You see my 200-pound St. Bernard side of the industry already, so that's fantastic.

02:00:41.580 That's a cool background, too.

02:00:43.100 A lot of people don't get their backgrounds sorted out for these things, but that's one of the top ones I've ever seen.

02:00:49.560 Dude, it's easy to screw up.

02:00:50.820 Now, it's funny because if I tilt the camera over here just a little bit, you can see my ghetto fabulous air conditioner sticking through the wall.

02:00:56.340 but now i look like an adult which is a big thing if that were me i would keep that in frame all the

02:01:04.060 time it's uh it's funny because i did i built a room in my garage because i've got two little

02:01:10.220 kids and they they're boys they go crazy throwing stuff so i built a room in the garage to do like

02:01:14.580 my office stuff and my podcast stuff like that well when i first did it i wasn't thinking about

02:01:18.920 like background so i just like basically built a little box and it stuck insulation to the wall

02:01:23.400 it's like all tinfoil and people are like oh my god you really have a tinfoil bunker i'm like

02:01:28.140 i i gotta fix this this is too much even for me it's funny because i'm in a similar situation

02:01:36.700 people can't see where i'm streaming from but i am in a basement i'm surrounded by workout

02:01:42.580 equipment there's a heavy bag there's like a half rack there and then just as a dad you end up in

02:01:48.920 the situation all kinds of old toys around here it's spectacularly grim i mean if you just look

02:01:56.140 at it with fresh eyes this is you're gonna say something dark happened here i totally get it

02:02:02.320 man that's that's that's the story of being a father though yeah one of my kids will probably

02:02:06.400 be here eventually like swinging a sword i'll be like trying to answer questions and fend them off

02:02:09.600 it's yeah it's how it's how things go my son is too young for cool toys he's only 17 months

02:02:16.560 so we went to the toy store and we got a whole rack of foam swords and hey look at this and

02:02:24.260 i know stabbing comes naturally to him because he's got a little plastic like knife and then

02:02:28.500 he'll stab me i'm like okay he gets he's like a stabbing type guy okay yeah but he doesn't get 0.96

02:02:34.040 the sword yet so i'm like okay i guess it's fucking tractors still i mean that's cool but 0.97

02:02:40.500 there's like like you get in this thing when you're like a new parent this is our first kid 0.94

02:02:45.620 where i'm like me and his mom are like when does he get into nerf guns when does like my wife

02:02:52.080 right now or earlier today is like desperately trying to get him into tanks and he's not at

02:02:57.680 tanks yet it's funny that you can't you can't push it is me with like my military like same

02:03:04.060 way i'm like like my kids got like real guns like the day they were born they just don't know yet

02:03:07.940 that kind of stuff but they didn't really transition into like the nerf guns or the toy

02:03:13.320 guns at all like they didn't even like them until like six months a year ago they really yeah they

02:03:18.860 like send they like tractors they like cars they were waiting at cars i was like oh my god my kids

02:03:23.780 are gonna be car guys like my dad i rebelled against my dad i wish that the ultimate rebellion

02:03:30.660 would be my kids would be like total hippies playing the bongo drums you know the shell 0.98

02:03:35.100 necklace to fucking you know the whole thing i'm like oh god but that's that's the cycle that's 0.98

02:03:39.840 way that's what i worry about too and i think every guy worries about that like what if the 1.00

02:03:44.680 kid is just the inverse of me right he hates all my bullshit all my bullshit yeah he's gonna be 1.00

02:03:51.140 like he's gonna know that i don't i don't know that i like weird shit i like dumb shit and i 1.00

02:03:56.200 know it but i'm a millennial right so most of the stuff i like is really stupid and i'm old enough 0.99

02:04:03.860 now to unironically like it like yeah you know what significant other by limp biscuit is a solid 0.98

02:04:10.160 album and i'm tired of pretending it's not you know and like yeah i like fucking you know we 0.85

02:04:17.040 like all that old early 2000s web design stuff like i'm still doing that i haven't progressed 0.89

02:04:23.540 i totally get it we're into our stuff man you know it just happens it's how it is

02:04:29.740 yeah um i wanted there's actually a lot i wanted to talk about uh today with you

02:04:35.280 because you are first and foremost i would know as a prolific author

02:04:40.020 and your website is at way of the wendigo i believe let me just make sure i have that

02:04:45.900 it's way of the wendigo.com wrath of the wendigo wrath of the wendigo yeah yeah that's why i wasn't

02:04:51.220 popping up my hero yes so wrath of the wendigo that's where we can find your books um which

02:04:57.580 we'll be discussing today but also i wanted to make note of this some of the most impressive

02:05:01.480 patches i've ever seen and also that the necklace you got on there which is a bear claw talisman is

02:05:08.420 that correct a polar bear claw specifically wow that's so cool and uh so the two books i really

02:05:15.600 want to talk about we'll talk about the first one because i read a lot about this a while ago i read

02:05:20.520 the book i got it paid for it actually um which i haven't done recently i've just been getting pdfs

02:05:26.920 i paid for this one it's called concrete jungle the subheading is a green beret's guide to urban

02:05:34.140 survival and i thought that could tee up your uh your background a little bit now you are listed

02:05:40.780 as a green beret but you have a prolific history in the military prior to that i was wondering if 0.92

02:05:45.500 you could give us a brief overview of that yeah man so i did all kinds of silly shit and i'll give 0.92

02:05:49.760 you the uh the quick rundown of it it sounds it almost sounds fucking preposterous but i was uh 0.95

02:05:55.580 infantryman the marine corps that was a reconnaissance marine scout sniper then i crossed

02:06:00.420 over to the army and i was i went straight to the special forces course as a green beret

02:06:04.960 and then while i was there i was in a special uh direct action unit so i was an assaulter and a

02:06:11.620 sniper for them uh and then became an intelligence sergeant that was kind of how i ran it up my 0.65

02:06:17.360 career so i did all kinds of silly shit very impressive though so when i say that you're 0.74

02:06:23.000 someone who knows what they're talking about when it comes to urban survival and combat you know 0.89

02:06:30.200 because i can talk all day about what i would do in you know a hot urban situation that sounded

02:06:37.620 gare the 910 let me just rewind what i well there's a different podcast in a whole different

02:06:42.980 place but everyone kind of thinks they know what they would do everyone and let me just also cue

02:06:48.520 this up we on blood satellite we're not unfamiliar to discussions of combat some of the books we'd

02:06:54.960 covered previously were on killing by lieutenant grossman uh which is a very good one and we

02:07:01.060 discussed and this is somewhat related uh the book coup d'etat by edward lutwak which you know

02:07:07.180 while not urban is a capital city palace intrigue type book um and we also covered a war of the

02:07:14.660 flea um which is another great book however i found that most of that was related to a lot of

02:07:21.420 you know jungle combat whatnot and we we haven't really focused on not only the urban element but

02:07:28.080 the modern urban combat situation um and i was wondering if we could maybe just queued up like

02:07:34.820 that like where do you think people go wrong oh sorry yeah no no that's perfect that's a great

02:07:38.620 place and this is actually relevant to why i wrote that particular book too as far as like survival

02:07:43.780 of those is uh you know there's a million dudes that teach you how to like fillet a rat and you 0.98

02:07:47.940 know shit in the bucket and all this other bullshit that comes with which is important 0.83

02:07:50.660 man i'm not getting down on this stuff at all but there are people who are experts at that uh in 0.99

02:07:55.880 fact uh god damn it i should have thought about this hard before i came on there's other dudes

02:08:00.140 like i like their stuff for that how to purify the water out of your hot water you they're awesome 0.98

02:08:04.600 at that i didn't touch that shit at all basically i wrote this from a perspective of a combat guy 0.94

02:08:11.480 because when it comes to urban specifically if you're in a crisis you're also in a fight 0.99

02:08:17.540 might be a low intensity fight uh it might be a you know street gang fight over band-aids or

02:08:22.380 you know whatever but you are going to be in a fight it's going to be hostile uh no matter what

02:08:27.640 uh and so that was kind of my impetus to write the book so it's it's not exactly a tactics book

02:08:35.540 it was more when i when i wrote it i was actually i was living in oregon right so uh oregon if you

02:08:42.120 don't know is like one of the weirdest places in the union uh all that stuff in portland is

02:08:49.480 what we see and that's what we think it was oregon but well the rest of oregon

02:08:52.380 is like as far right as you can go and then it's the only place i've ever seen like like this is 0.98

02:08:59.200 no bullshit like dudes openly flying swastikas like for their back windshields and shit so that 0.92

02:09:05.380 is the right outside of portland so you can see why there's so much friction there and i saw i saw 0.98

02:09:11.440 that early on and i thought oh my god like you never hear about that you never hear how you don't

02:09:16.600 it is there you wouldn't know it unless you live there because you have to get you know probably

02:09:20.840 50 miles away from portland from being totally honest before you get into like that part well

02:09:26.020 it actually turns out that uh i mean oregon's oregon's history is pretty wild it was mostly

02:09:31.180 actually populated by

02:09:33.060 southerners that lost the

02:09:35.240 civil war and then went there 1.00

02:09:36.460 and I mean there's all kinds of crazy shit 1.00

02:09:39.080 like in their state 0.98

02:09:40.960 constitution I would say until like 1925

02:09:43.660 like not 1.00

02:09:45.300 even free black can settle there 0.99

02:09:46.700 like that's how like hardcore 0.98

02:09:49.200 Oregon was back then like nobody 0.52

02:09:51.200 free non-emancipated 1.00

02:09:53.600 probably won't give a shit 0.99

02:09:54.620 that's how it was so you've got 0.99

02:09:57.220 both camps

02:09:59.000 like as far as far as much as you can get

02:10:01.000 too in a way i guess as far right as you can get and so that's why it's always been the friction

02:10:06.320 point you never hear about that stuff because they're they're the minority now portland like 0.95

02:10:09.660 boats them into the dirt uh but that that is why the friction exists there uh so i you know i could

02:10:16.540 kind of see this living there like oh man dude like if that like the guys with badges ever stop 0.88

02:10:21.140 showing up like this is gonna be a fucking bloodbath uh hands down and that was really kind 0.90

02:10:27.500 of would have jarred my thinking uh to get me going on on concrete juggle it was like uh 1.00

02:10:32.980 what if you know you live in fucking portland and you're just doing your normal guy shit and uh 0.99

02:10:40.940 you know going to work at the docks or whatever bullshit and next thing you know like antifa and 1.00

02:10:46.620 like the like the no shit flag flying uh uh neo-nazis are like having a fucking like war 0.99

02:10:52.900 for the city you're in a bad spot now that's a great point and it what springs to mind um i'm 0.99

02:10:59.760 in canada so sometimes i selfishly recontextualize this in a canadian context but i would think of a

02:11:05.720 place like montreal and outside of even the political factions there's the organized crime

02:11:12.000 factions right so and montreal is a real nexus of a lot of international organized crime and just

02:11:18.740 think about other cities that have more prominent gang presences because that's a whole other

02:11:24.040 dimension right um and i i do wonder like i don't think this was covered in the book explicitly but

02:11:30.260 what what's your read on you know let's say you got you know antifa and then the neo-nazis but

02:11:35.440 then where would the gang shake out do they seem like in a shit fans the fan scenario would they 0.98

02:11:41.280 be a threat or would they dissipate i'd be a huge threat they would get so much worse uh i mean you 0.98

02:11:46.100 You can take the same model and throw it to Phoenix then.

02:11:49.700 Say you don't have neo-Nazis and Antifa anymore.

02:11:51.960 You've got regular people and the cartel.

02:11:54.400 The minute state power disappears anywhere in the Southwest,

02:11:59.480 cartels are going to step in and fill that gap.

02:12:03.140 And it's going to be multiple cartels too.

02:12:04.920 So they're going to fight about it, as well as the homegrown gangs. 0.98

02:12:10.540 It's going to be complete fucking chaos for a while. 0.98

02:12:13.760 Let me ask you this. 0.97

02:12:14.640 this is we're starting off with a lot of speculation but this is where my mind's always 0.98

02:12:19.040 gone because i would kind of scheme and game these out but i'm like let's say again shit hits a fan 0.72

02:12:24.760 scenario where would militias fall on this because you think of militias as the most prepared 0.93

02:12:29.760 them versus cartels what do we think happens well most militias in the united states are useless i 1.00

02:12:37.680 mean they're they're fat retarded dumb fucks that couldn't hit the floor with a gun if they dropped 1.00

02:12:43.520 it for the most part uh so they just get i mean they get fucking steamrolled if they even had the 1.00

02:12:48.160 balls to step up they just get crushed uh like without question uh maybe like a a place where 0.97

02:12:55.540 you could see a conflict like that it's like oh go to texas like the texas guard though uh and

02:13:00.460 that's not the national guards the texas guard uh those guys are legit all right they're like

02:13:04.920 trained infantry guys and shit so they could very realistically have like a like a long 0.86

02:13:10.500 conflict with the cartels 0.98

02:13:12.840 there.

02:13:15.480 This is actually part

02:13:16.800 of the point of the books, too, is

02:13:18.700 we have to

02:13:20.520 start ganging up, and that's a big impetus

02:13:22.700 of everything I've ever written, is you've got to start

02:13:24.640 forming your gang

02:13:26.840 or your militia, or however you want to phrase it.

02:13:28.980 Probably not militia, because for the internet, gang

02:13:30.720 is way safer. You get some glock switches, whatever

02:13:32.680 bullshit. 0.99

02:13:34.460 You've got to start forming that, because you can't fight 1.00

02:13:36.760 alone, and nobody else is going to fight you alone.

02:13:38.960 and uh the the universal truth is whoever's the most organized the most violent wins so 0.98

02:13:46.420 yeah you don't want to yeah you don't want to like you know i don't know fucking take over 1.00

02:13:50.180 the suburb of montreal that you live in are you still got to be able to defend your shit 0.99

02:13:54.980 all right and yeah i'm reminded some people might get sick of me for citing this example but 0.98

02:14:01.260 i saw this show years and years ago and it's always stuck with me it was uh some netflix show

02:14:06.820 about survivalism and i watched the first two episodes and the first episode was about a guy

02:14:11.900 and his wife and his daughter and they're on a completely self-sufficient farm and he's got his

02:14:16.520 guns and they make their own water make their own electricity in the middle of the woods kind of the

02:14:21.220 dream of the home center and they're interviewing him and they would say oh what if anyone from the

02:14:26.160 neighbor in town when there's a collapse scenario and they wanted to come join up he's like basically 0.93

02:14:31.140 fuck them they've made their choice you know this is me and mine interesting second episode was just 0.88

02:14:38.120 a group of like six guys who spent all their time training in the woods i don't even know if they're 1.00

02:14:43.520 ex-military they might have just been guys who bought fatigues and their whole thing is just

02:14:47.660 spending all their time doing fucking rock training and shooting and i'm like the guy in the first 0.85

02:14:53.700 episode within a day falls to that second group and you're just hoping that they've got a shred 0.95

02:15:00.400 of humanity at that point you know right and so one thing that one thing that we say on the show

02:15:06.720 and um this is parallel to what i've heard from even people in the venture capital world is that

02:15:12.720 a group of five to six guys who you trust and who you gel with can do pretty much anything you can

02:15:20.080 throw them at any problem and they'll figure it out the smartest person alone doesn't matter but

02:15:25.220 If you can get a crew, you know, you're kind of set for life.

02:15:29.900 You're set for whatever.

02:15:31.540 Yes.

02:15:32.400 And would you kind of recommend young men do that? 1.00

02:15:36.640 Fuck yes. 1.00

02:15:37.180 No, dude, absolutely. 1.00

02:15:38.340 I mean, without question.

02:15:39.660 It's one of the first things I say in the book, and it's one of the reasons, too, that a certain amount of people really like my books is I kind of stuck a big, sharp knife in the, you know, Johnny Rambo, I'm going to the lone survivor, last man on earth.

02:15:55.220 fantasy, because it is

02:15:56.980 complete fantasy. You cannot

02:15:59.320 do any of this shit 1.00

02:16:00.940 all by yourself. Like, look, man, my shit 1.00

02:16:03.080 reads like a fucking demon's resume if we want to talk 1.00

02:16:05.160 about, you know, good with guns and tactics 1.00

02:16:07.140 and all this other bullshit. I can't do it alone 0.99

02:16:09.240 either. Like, I got to take a fucking nap sometime. 1.00

02:16:11.380 Like, unless I just get, like, a 1.00

02:16:13.080 30-year supply of meth, I guess. Like, I'm

02:16:15.200 going to have to sleep. I'm

02:16:17.220 going to get tired. I've got to do other

02:16:19.000 shit, like gather water, 0.98

02:16:21.420 you know, all this other stuff. Let me just say, 1.00

02:16:23.280 knowing the audience that I do, there's a lot

02:16:25.200 of people who just start sketching out a 30

02:16:27.180 year supply of meth

02:16:28.600 I don't even

02:16:31.320 know what that looks like

02:16:32.040 my god

02:16:34.680 it's like when you see a briefcase full of

02:16:37.200 a million dollars like I thought it'd be more

02:16:39.000 it's not that much

02:16:40.340 it's one big brick and you hit it with a hammer

02:16:43.100 every day and take the I don't know

02:16:44.340 but yeah man

02:16:46.600 this is

02:16:47.660 both our fault is kind of 0.66

02:16:51.140 like the American like mountain man

02:16:52.860 and then it's also the fault of like 0.97

02:16:55.040 action movies in the fucking 80s because there's never a team there's always one dude he kicks 0.94

02:16:58.160 everybody's ass and it's all great uh it doesn't really work like that uh even amongst like uh 0.97

02:17:04.180 like green berets and shit like you know we'd say amongst each other but you know one of this is 0.99

02:17:08.900 like relatively dangerous but the more of us you add to the thing it's it's exponentially more 0.99

02:17:12.980 powerful all right and same thing you're like five or six dudes that have their shit together like 0.96

02:17:17.620 i mean they'll steamroll the next thousand dudes if they can fight them one-on-one

02:17:22.240 it seems to me that that would be one of the personality types and i i don't have any

02:17:27.520 griever experience but i bet you would try and filter for the type of guy who wants to be the

02:17:33.340 lone wolf badass yeah it's there's a lot that goes into like i haven't even seen all of it

02:17:39.480 because i didn't get high enough to it to do so there's a lot that goes into the psych stuff

02:17:43.460 and you need a guy that can function by himself but prefer kind of prefers to be on a team and

02:17:48.660 so there's this like uh kind of avenue of like okay we'll take from here to here in this you know

02:17:54.600 band of uh of loners versus uh team dependency but uh but yeah i see more films about that too

02:18:02.100 and one of the most interesting series that you know was a huge hit in our community was that

02:18:08.160 show the terminal list with chris pratt i don't know if you ever saw that one i i haven't seen

02:18:13.080 yet my kids are little so i never get to watch tv anymore uh i've heard good things i've heard

02:18:17.840 is a good show uh there's obviously a billion of them so i think you'd like it there's um i won't

02:18:23.860 describe the scene but there's a few scenes in there where it's it's really about teamwork and

02:18:27.900 i think uh my generation especially like we're coming out of that sort of lone wolf superhero

02:18:32.740 and thinking more like teams like what how can i operate a team which is an interesting thing

02:18:38.780 to try and do on your own as just a man lost in the wilderness like how do i i'm not being put in

02:18:44.240 a team i'm not being filtered into a team i just got to find one especially if they're not childhood

02:18:49.440 friends and you're like an adult and you got to find them right right it's it's actually it's the

02:18:54.080 number one hardest question uh it's probably the question that i get the most uh but it's still

02:19:01.480 like where do i find the guys like man we can talk for the next three hours about where to find the

02:19:07.320 guys and still not solve your specific problem, but that needs to be your, your primary focus.

02:19:13.800 It also looks like the brain trust. Now, this is something else I always say about teams. Like,

02:19:17.200 you know, I had, I know how to do certain shit really well. Uh, but I don't know how to do, 0.98

02:19:21.720 uh, surgery very well. So I could like use a vet or an EMT or a brain surgeon or some shit like 0.97

02:19:29.040 that to help me with that. And there's a bunch of other shit that I don't do that well either. 0.99

02:19:33.300 and uh you know i can either go try to learn everything that i you know possible and there's 0.99

02:19:38.620 not it's not enough time in my life or i get like five six dudes that all know their own shit and 0.61

02:19:44.560 then we're like okay now i'll be in charge of this you'll be in charge of that bob can be in 0.75

02:19:48.640 charge of this off we go it's difficult because especially people in our political milieu it

02:19:55.060 tends to filter for let's just say fringe personalities or people who are used to

02:20:01.680 thinking in otherwise heterodox ways like in our our space is filled with loners to just put it as

02:20:08.840 kindly as i can yeah so it's hard to like get those guys together and like form those bonds

02:20:15.140 anew and actually i had a question that was submitted by one of our community members and

02:20:21.620 maybe this is the place to put it i was going to save the question till the end but um

02:20:25.460 it's kind of a long one so i'll just read it and the question comes at the end it says

02:20:30.420 Question for Mr. Clay.

02:20:31.880 I've heard you and other veterans mention that you don't think it's a good idea to recommend our guys go into the military.

02:20:38.300 I'm of an opposing view and was wondering why we are running from the military.

02:20:42.920 With that said, here's my question.

02:20:45.120 Can you suspend disbelief and think of a few reasons our guys should be joining and give some advice,

02:20:51.880 especially those who understand the current state of affairs?

02:20:55.140 And I assume this will be in the American context.

02:20:58.180 the canadian military is a different beast entirely but let's just keep it american i in short are there

02:21:03.860 any reasons you could think of why hypothetically someone ought to join the military and is that

02:21:08.620 assessment true do you recommend that young men don't do that i right now recommend that they 0.89

02:21:13.860 don't uh and that's just because you know i don't want to shout with trainees and other bullshit

02:21:17.840 but the biggest the biggest thing is i believe this is kind of we're going to go some tenfold 0.67

02:21:22.760 little hat space here i believe one of their in-state goals is to start a shooting war where

02:21:29.900 they can both recruit and draft where they need to do uh most of the young fit white guys and have 0.99

02:21:37.420 them fucking die in europe or china or fucking wherever uh because it makes the domestic front 0.99

02:21:42.180 a lot easier to deal with uh with our replacements that are showing up by the millions uh you also 1.00

02:21:47.460 you can't draft illegal aliens or invaders all right but you can't make them cops so you can

02:21:52.500 draft the out of all the guys who should be those roles uh now you got your uh you know

02:21:56.900 fill in the blank loyal to you uh empire enforcers uh so that is it's a tactical

02:22:02.260 reason is my primary reason to tell the guys right now not to do it now are there good reasons to do

02:22:07.940 so yes uh provided this takes longer than i think uh you get some like invaluable training uh you

02:22:14.980 you get paid to do it. You get some, uh, you know,

02:22:17.600 provide there's still some shooting going on.

02:22:18.940 You get some incredible experience. And, you know,

02:22:22.220 there's also a good possibility of meeting some, you know,

02:22:25.840 guys that fill these niches for the rest of your life.

02:22:29.660 And that's kind of what I was thinking where a lot of people,

02:22:32.420 they meet their crew,

02:22:34.160 their gang in the military or in high school or, you know,

02:22:37.000 at a certain point in their life. Um, and I was wondering, um, you know,

02:22:42.880 i had one theory let's call it a wild insane speculation i want to run it by you because 0.96

02:22:49.200 it's similar to what you just said about drafting all the white guys and sending them to die uh we

02:22:53.360 were just toying around the idea that one of the things they're doing in the military is kind of

02:22:57.680 trying to chase the white guys out but because white guys especially in america they still have

02:23:03.600 that drive for the warrior status more than any other type of person you would chase them right

02:23:09.920 into private military contracting which would in a possible future scenario be the only forces in

02:23:16.860 the world that are actually doing the dirty work and then most of the you know dei what we might 0.96

02:23:21.580 call it military doesn't do much of anything it's just still the white guys doing all the killing 0.91

02:23:25.060 however they are then in a position where because they're not technically soldiers they can do way 0.99

02:23:30.360 worse things and they get thrown under the bus later on oh yeah and nobody gives a shit that 0.94

02:23:34.480 you killed like nobody yeah that was like the worst case scenario now what do you think about 0.65

02:23:38.460 that is that realistic at all no it's entirely possible uh the only downs the only hole in the 0.96

02:23:45.500 theory at all was that pmc's tend to be very expensive and i think our money's fucking broken

02:23:49.020 so it's kind of a problem but yeah i know you're right uh it's it was real funny how they chased 0.91

02:23:56.040 or they went out of their way to chase all the white guys out though until like recruiting for 0.97

02:24:01.680 the shit and it looked like we had to fight uh you know in ukraine which we still might have to 0.99

02:24:06.200 I'd be like, oh, just kidding. 1.00

02:24:09.840 Please, Duke for Alabama. 0.99

02:24:11.920 We were just fucking around. 0.97

02:24:13.440 You could please sign back up. 0.99

02:24:14.880 That would be super.

02:24:15.880 They're basically like, if you joined, you will get your own Taylor Swift.

02:24:20.160 Right, right, right, right.

02:24:22.200 We haven't told anyone this.

02:24:23.400 We can pump these out.

02:24:24.860 That one's not even real.

02:24:26.180 We got more.

02:24:27.320 We lost three of them last week.

02:24:28.700 It's fine.

02:24:29.160 We'll just get another one.

02:24:30.220 They're just gone, but it doesn't matter.

02:24:32.980 they're in the wind but we have so many more and then you know hey hey that'd work

02:24:39.540 it would um so on the still on the topic of concrete jungle i wanted to ask um on the on

02:24:48.960 the topic of urban combat are there any preconceptions you see people have about

02:24:53.260 what they think will happen that they're wrong about or i know that's a big question but it is

02:24:58.100 a big question yeah um i would say okay we saw covid fix a little bit of this uh we didn't see

02:25:05.400 it fix all of this uh we used to americans traditionally have thought like if you buy a gun

02:25:11.680 you're good and like it does not work that way like people are not good with a gun uh and you 0.89

02:25:17.220 don't have to be like i don't know johnny fucking rambo super soldier the fucking universe but 0.91

02:25:23.440 there's a long bit of space between i bought a gun and incompetence yeah and there's one part 0.97

02:25:29.280 in your book where you said you won't need firearms as much as you think in a collapse

02:25:33.440 scenario is that true also correct yes if you need them you need them really bad but you know 0.90

02:25:38.440 if you look at dudes like uh like selco from uh from the balkans or uh oh god damn it who's the

02:25:43.760 guy from argentine he's written a bunch of books too he's uh he's he's awesome he's i've been on

02:25:47.900 his show i feel bad i can't remember his name but uh he survived the collapse and i'm sorry

02:25:52.780 venezuela he survived the class of venezuela and now he lives in spain so he's got guns

02:25:56.860 and s rolled but yeah that's the thing you can't focus on just guns because it's not

02:26:01.660 like it's going to be like a shootout for the next five years it's going to be a lot of time 0.68

02:26:06.540 like to have basic shit like uh power or heat and food and water and then limited times of having to 0.98

02:26:16.700 shoot, I don't know, roving gangs of marauders or some bullshit, but that's going to be a lot 0.99

02:26:22.880 less time. But you do have to be competent at it. You still have to spend, you can't just have a 0.99

02:26:27.140 gun. That's not good enough. And again, not to get too, too detailed, I'd hate to get you into

02:26:33.420 trouble, but hypothetically, if one had to pick a type of firearm, or let's say three, because three

02:26:39.380 is your number, what would you recommend for preparation for this sort of scenario?

02:26:44.380 A rifle in 5.56, an AR-15.

02:26:46.780 Got to be an AR-15, unless you live in California,

02:26:48.860 which we'll talk about that at a different time.

02:26:51.580 A pistol to carry around, just like as crime happens

02:26:55.760 and, like, we start the slide,

02:26:57.060 and then when, like, the real shooting starts, 1.00

02:26:58.760 that thing's a fucking paperweight because they're useless. 0.99

02:27:01.100 And the last one would be a semi-auto .22 caliber rifle, 0.99

02:27:06.300 like a .1022 or an AR-15 that shoots .22, whatever,

02:27:10.100 just because you can stockpile

02:27:11.900 10,000 rounds for $100.

02:27:14.340 So we wouldn't be interested in

02:27:16.100 shotguns at all in this situation.

02:27:18.680 There's a very limited use

02:27:20.300 for them.

02:27:22.180 You can hunt birds with them. That's what they're for.

02:27:24.460 Which is handy.

02:27:25.780 I won't deny that.

02:27:28.640 They are a handheld claymore until they're 0.99

02:27:30.060 empty, but they're a pain in the ass to reload. 0.97

02:27:31.900 They have more malfunctions than any three other guns 0.99

02:27:34.000 put together. They would be

02:27:36.260 way down my list

02:27:37.900 uh for unless i lived in like duck country which if i'm gonna hunt pigeons and ducks for my survival

02:27:42.860 strategy then cool have one oh and we have a question here from nathan green would i be crazy

02:27:48.760 for using seawire to go ahead and limit avenues of approach for a farmstead no you would not i don't

02:27:55.820 think you would be at all in fact put some of that stuff in and then plant some uh some plants that 0.96

02:28:00.080 are also nasty you know fucking european style rose bushes bamboo whatever you got uh i think 0.95

02:28:06.300 as long as you've given yourself escape routes that yeah use the labor that you have now while 0.99

02:28:10.440 we have free calories essentially uh get that shit done yes so let's just uh do a tangent there's

02:28:17.900 escape routes uh what could you recommend let's say to someone who lives maybe in a suburban area 0.96

02:28:24.020 like what should they know about escape routes okay you've got to have a backup plan for somewhere

02:28:30.000 to go because there is such a thing as a force that shows up that you cannot stop and uh part

02:28:36.240 of being a smart guy is seeing that evolve and being like can't stay here i got you a suburban

02:28:42.720 we've i don't know we talk about barricading the house in that in concrete concrete jungle so as

02:28:46.640 we've barricaded the house all up it's a fortress whatever and i can deal with the local hell's

02:28:50.800 angels guys whatever well next thing i know the cartel shows up with uh 50 caliber machine guns

02:28:55.520 and rpgs that's no longer defensible position all right and i need to be smart enough to see

02:29:00.700 that happen and be like time to go so anywhere that you live you have to have an out you've got

02:29:05.920 to have somewhere else to go and it's it's not great to think about living uh you know the

02:29:10.580 classic survivalist like i got a little backpack and i'm going to survive in the woods now like

02:29:13.960 it's gonna be shitty but you do have to think in terms of going going somewhere else or this is 0.96

02:29:20.840 one that it doesn't even have to be violence like i look at the shit that happened in east palestine 0.99

02:29:24.380 ohio you know if a train full of toxic chemicals lands next to the house and they set the fucking 0.98

02:29:31.100 thing on fire and everything within 200 miles of death zone i have to leave and it's better to have 0.98

02:29:36.160 that escape plan pre-built than it is to try to make it up on the fly let me ask you this me again 0.94

02:29:41.680 not knowing what the fuck i'm talking about but let's say a catastrophe happens would a piece of

02:29:47.420 wisdom like try and get to higher ground immediately does that make sense if it's chemicals or enemies 0.98

02:29:54.120 no uh not necessarily uh chemicals like i don't know enough about them uh it depends on what 0.58

02:30:01.000 fucking chemical if it's uh i mean what if it's a chemical that tends to rise above a certain 0.51

02:30:05.500 layer of oxygen uh for enemies think about this your lower ground is actually typically your 0.99

02:30:11.620 thicker vegetation it's harder to track and harder to find people in uh so a lot of times you're

02:30:15.740 actually better off to go down but there's no like universal truth that you need to look at

02:30:19.840 your area your specific place and and decide your way out i'm very happy i asked because you know my

02:30:26.860 next instinct would be caves i gotta find a cave network but that's not a terrible plan you know

02:30:33.700 i just then i watch the descent and i go okay i know where this leads i know this leads to me

02:30:38.560 getting devoured right i never look i've never heard a cave story that ended good i know the

02:30:44.940 internet it all ends with like a guy wedged somewhere oh yeah you if you're going to use a

02:30:51.620 cave you got to map it first you got to know exactly where that thing goes but in that case

02:30:57.020 though a cave is a fantastic uh place to have it's a thermal resist thermal proof like you can't 0.88

02:31:01.840 track people with thermals into the fucking thing uh it's storm everything proof as long as it stays 0.81

02:31:06.820 above water i mean there's there's some good things about caves me and the boys gonna become 0.98

02:31:11.420 cave guys at the whiff of any trouble i i get a bill i don't like i'm gonna become a cave guy

02:31:21.060 there's another couple things you mentioned in the book um just people might find interesting

02:31:26.480 if you'd like to maybe expand on uh one is using chain link to secure windows instead of plywood

02:31:33.640 yeah chain link's great because it's it's light uh it's easy to store like you can throw a roll

02:31:39.240 a chain link in the backyard and it might get a little rusty but it's still functional for the

02:31:42.380 next 50 years uh you can still see through it uh that's the bad thing about like plywood like 0.98

02:31:47.400 plywood up all your house then you cut a little gun port in the fucking thing uh you can't see 0.97

02:31:52.340 anymore your your aperture is this big you're trying to scan around your front yard and not 0.98

02:31:56.720 get killed uh it's a lot easier to put up by yourself it's a lot cheaper uh and uh yeah it's

02:32:04.860 i mean it's an interesting concept but yeah it works i mean we used to one of the reasons that

02:32:08.820 most of our firebases had chain link around them uh it was because we could still see out but they

02:32:13.480 would detonate rpgs so it's kind of like an rpg screen too uh same thing for molotov cocktails 0.98

02:32:18.580 you know that kind of shit oh shit i had literally never thought of that but this is very practical 0.99

02:32:23.860 advice you would also had one which is use spears to guard your front door is that true yeah no i 1.00

02:32:32.060 mean that was particularly written for people that live in places where you can't have guns 0.52

02:32:36.940 But yeah, I mean, having spears and other shit that people don't think about anymore 0.95

02:32:41.420 because we live in a gun world, it is very hard. 0.96

02:32:45.700 Think about a hallway for an apartment building.

02:32:48.360 You're not getting past a dude with any level of competence with a six or eight-foot spear.

02:32:53.380 That's going to be a bad day out. 0.90

02:32:56.060 It's not like a sword where I can fuck that up, 0.83

02:32:58.660 or you can have an equal weapon with your baseball bat. 1.00

02:33:00.860 I've got a goddamn hoplite spear. 0.99

02:33:04.120 You're not getting through that. 0.99

02:33:06.060 As well as it's easy to go up and, you know, come down.

02:33:10.400 There's a lot of defensive capability for like ancient style weapons, especially if we're talking about a place where guns are not all that common.

02:33:19.080 Yeah. And you got another one here, carrying a folding knife locked up in a kydex sheath where fixed blade knives are illegal, if you could expand on that a little bit.

02:33:29.100 Yeah, man.

02:33:29.820 This is one of my all-time favorites.

02:33:32.360 It's about violating the spirit of the law, but not the letter of the law. 0.99

02:33:36.960 So I also taught, like, low-vis operators, so dudes with, you know, beards and shit, to do spooky guy shit. 0.95

02:33:43.440 So one of the things that we found when we were training them and, like, developing our new stuff, folding knives almost never deploy right. 0.88

02:33:51.420 Even if you get the cool ones with the openers and shit, almost always, if we do, like, a full contact thing, they don't open.

02:33:57.820 And they open like 90 degrees and then you've got like a sharp blade fling around like this. 0.76

02:34:01.180 It's just, it's not great.

02:34:02.480 Or they don't get it out at all.

02:34:04.120 And we tested this stuff like full contact. 0.95

02:34:06.680 So one of the ways around that is to buy a little bullshit deck sheet from eBay. 0.72

02:34:11.520 They sell them for everything. 0.96

02:34:12.580 Basically, if you pick a Spyderco knife, they make up for that.

02:34:15.680 And then run some 550 cord around it and carry it deployed.

02:34:18.840 Now you've got essentially a fixed blade knife with all the legal things associated with a folding knife.

02:34:25.520 So you can get away with a lot more.

02:34:26.400 that's fascinating um and you know just for people are aware you're not going to get in

02:34:32.120 trouble for doing any of this the books on amazon so it wouldn't do that if this was getting in

02:34:38.160 trouble um and also he's and this might sound like a no-brainer but the necessity of several

02:34:44.380 fire extinguishers because are we imagining that molotov cocktails would be a popular

02:34:50.380 oh i mean that's obviously a lefty favorite anyway uh it's funny because that fire extinguisher thing

02:34:56.260 i've had probably a hundred people and some of these are like very like smart like with it 0.99

02:35:02.740 fucking millionaire dudes like dude i never thought i'd have a fucking fire extinguisher 0.98

02:35:07.300 it's like oh dude warfare is fire it's just how you have to think about it 1.00

02:35:12.740 shit catches on fire shit blows up uh it's just how it works especially in our modern world full 0.99

02:35:19.620 of you know gas lines and propane cylinders and fucking two by four walls fire is just like a 1.00

02:35:25.060 fact of life in a combat situation so yeah being plussed up on the fire extinguishers is is huge 0.60

02:35:32.700 and i actually couldn't believe that people didn't know that but again you wouldn't know that if you

02:35:37.060 haven't had been rocking it a lot i guess you know it just kind of makes sense and another thing you

02:35:43.800 mentioned in the book and i've had this same comment made by other guys i've known in the

02:35:49.020 military in various capacities but rucking being an essential skill to develop and especially

02:35:54.560 rucking for fitness to ensure the ability to carry supplies for distance is that something you would 1.00

02:35:59.440 recommend to young guys get into now yes absolutely now don't overdo it don't do some like retarded 1.00

02:36:06.880 bullshit and uh you know carrying 100 pound rocks definitely don't listen to the the militaries 0.98

02:36:13.520 how to learn how to rock programs where they like teach you for free uh because their 1.00

02:36:17.280 shit's garbage go to somewhere like the best uh the best like 20 bucks you can spend if you 0.99

02:36:22.640 you want to learn how to rock is go to a mountain athlete and buy their ruck based selection program 0.99

02:36:28.140 it's like 20 bucks uh mountain athlete is a it's like a crossfit thing but it's kind of specific

02:36:33.580 for either mountain dudes or military dudes i we used it all the time on our teams and they

02:36:39.040 their stuff is fantastic but keep it light keep it to like 35 40 pounds but the big reason that

02:36:44.680 i push that so much is i didn't as a you know like a 15 year military guy like i didn't understand

02:36:50.460 what a difference it makes until me and one of my wife's nephew or wife's nieces had kids at the

02:36:57.020 same time now at this point i haven't carried a rock in like seven years but i've walked over the

02:37:02.100 fucking balkans with one before that and a lot of other places too so we get we our kids are the 0.88

02:37:08.160 same age and next thing you know we have 20 pound kids me and uh her niece's husband and you know 0.99

02:37:13.960 not to like punk about or anything but like i would carry my son like literally all night long

02:37:18.080 That's the only way he sleeps. I pick him up, put him in a backpack,

02:37:20.280 walk around the fucking block, walk in the house 0.99

02:37:22.040 for, like, four hours, listen to a podcast, 1.00

02:37:23.960 some shit like that. No big deal. He's 20 pounds. 0.97

02:37:26.120 It's child playing.

02:37:27.900 My, the other person

02:37:30.200 in this party, also, like,

02:37:31.800 a man in his mid-20s,

02:37:33.900 couldn't go, you know, 20 minutes without

02:37:36.020 basically tapping out. You forget about

02:37:37.960 all this weird, like, sports 0.99

02:37:40.140 specific muscle shit 0.99

02:37:42.040 that goes along with carrying a rock. 0.99

02:37:43.940 It's up here on your shoulders where your arms don't go down

02:37:46.060 anymore. It's like a

02:37:48.080 It's like a back strength and a leg strength that you don't you don't get from anything else because why the fuck would you? 0.97

02:37:54.880 But yeah, even we go to something as simple as like I need to carry five gallons of water. 0.96

02:37:58.760 I got to go get it a mile from here.

02:38:00.940 That's 40 pounds.

02:38:01.880 All right.

02:38:02.400 I can carry that many, many times even by my old age because I have practice.

02:38:07.600 If you just try that with no experience, it's going to be painful and it's going to be it's going to be rough.

02:38:12.560 So learning to carry somewhere in the, let's say 30 to 45 pound range is a very good bit of like specific conditioning to do.

02:38:22.460 And for like, you know, five to 10 miles.

02:38:25.000 Now we've given the people a lot of really great advice here.

02:38:28.600 And I was wondering if there's anything, before we move on to the next stuff, there's any other, you know, urban jungle related tips you can give them for the shit hits a fan collapse scenario that maybe we didn't cover yet. 0.97

02:38:41.120 ah fuck man dude honestly i'm uh i'm rethinking a lot of of things now i stand by everything that 0.99

02:38:48.920 i wrote in concrete jungle prairie fire i wrote those from the heart they were for the fucking 0.99

02:38:52.220 people i am now though with four years under my belt and down the line starting to rethink things 0.96

02:38:58.340 like uh drones that's a much bigger threat than i ever i wanted to talk about drones especially

02:39:02.960 when i think about possibly getting into the military i just think about all these videos of 0.95

02:39:09.580 they're the the most frightening fucking videos i've ever seen of like a guy in an abandoned 0.98

02:39:15.060 building some russian and you just hear it sounds like it's a horror movie the sound of a distant 0.99

02:39:21.480 drone that's loaded with a grenade and you're just like listening for this like chilling sound

02:39:26.600 and then you just kind of see it float into the room and i'm like okay imagine that just every 0.70

02:39:32.120 fucking day dude dude it's uh it's uh you know tim on point uh from twitter he's a seal friend 0.63

02:39:38.600 he put it best when he said that the what's happening with drones right now will change 0.99

02:39:42.920 warfare as much as the machine gun did that's where we are we're like everybody just got their

02:39:47.300 first machine guns so the tactics right now still suck uh you know nobody has really figured out how 0.98

02:39:52.000 to use this fucking thing but that's the kind of sea change that you have to look at it as you have 0.98

02:39:56.860 to look at it as this is like a paradigm shift in warfare and i don't i don't fully understand 0.98

02:40:03.000 what that means nobody does uh but that that needs to be something that you're aware of yeah

02:40:06.880 shotguns are back on the menu so we said that over in the chat you're right for now uh because

02:40:11.160 we can still reach it with shotguns there's a there's a video out there of uh i think it's 0.96

02:40:16.460 a red bull's f1 car and they chase it with a drone to film it that fucking drone keeps up 0.76

02:40:21.560 uh that technology no granted that's a light drone it was probably you know supercharged for 0.97

02:40:27.020 this one event but it's not gonna be very long before that carry ordinance too uh but yeah you

02:40:32.180 have got to start thinking about drones that's got to be on everybody's list yeah and the way i see

02:40:38.140 them developing again this is just my speculation is you know we were all scared about the boston

02:40:43.140 dynamics robots of that yeah haunting dog and attaching you know uh gatling gun to the back

02:40:48.900 i'm like no what about if drones just get smaller and smaller and smaller and more and more explosive

02:40:54.880 like in minority report or something oh that's it dude what about when drones are this big and

02:40:59.800 they carry like you know two grams of explosives and their facial recognition in my head and 0.79

02:41:04.280 there's a thousand of them i got a fucking problem and eventually if it's like oh they're they're 0.67

02:41:08.340 pretty much nanobots in the sense that you can't really see them and then they just invade every 0.97

02:41:13.140 orifice in your body i'm like okay well then this this isn't war even this is something else this

02:41:18.500 is just a living nightmare like dan just imagine there's no fucking rules and anyone can do them 0.94

02:41:24.700 you don't need to be a military to have these you can just be a few guys who have them oh meta just 0.96

02:41:29.180 brought up jammers too here's what you're going to see with you're going to see an arms race

02:41:32.460 you're going to see like like most other things you're going to see offense develop and then

02:41:36.240 defense will be better for a while and then offense will surpass that but uh so that's what

02:41:40.780 i'm that's what i mean by like there's no good answers right now there's no full answers

02:41:43.940 but uh if you're not into drones no matter what you got to spend you know an hour a week looking 0.93

02:41:49.160 at drones if you're into that kind of shit you should get one when i fly it uh all that kind 0.96

02:41:54.080 of shit gives you a different understanding of the tactics and what can be done but yeah we've 0.99

02:41:57.880 all got to be thinking about fucking also some people i will say go a bit overboard on it i've 1.00

02:42:02.460 had people i've gotten into arguments with who said that seeing what they've seen about drones 0.98

02:42:07.280 then like aircraft carriers are irrelevant now everything's irrelevant i'm like okay no like

02:42:12.580 look aircraft carriers have been obsolete since 1982 interesting what why do we why do we got

02:42:18.800 them what what's what's their biggest opponent right now because we can still beat up uh you 0.98

02:42:23.520 know third world fucking shitheads with no money with an aircraft carrier that's what it's for 1.00

02:42:27.880 it's it's not for a peer-to-peer it's not for fighting the russians fuck no like those things 1.00

02:42:31.880 get sunk on day one uh yeah that's not what they're for they're only for beating up four people 0.97

02:42:37.840 interesting now what do you see aside from drones in the future military once again big question

02:42:44.700 but uh in future combat scenarios man drones to be perfectly honest like drones is so big

02:42:51.920 that i can't think of anything else like nothing else really scares me i guess you know hypersonic

02:42:55.560 missile and shit like that but drones is the big one uh drones and then you know connectivity with 0.99

02:43:00.760 ai that's that's the fucking that's the shit right now yeah we reviewed a book a while ago 0.99

02:43:07.060 called what the fuck was it it was neurotechnology in national defense it was a collection 0.99

02:43:12.120 of essays written by you know military and defense experts and it was all about the that new horizon 0.98

02:43:20.920 of warfare which is solely fixated on either boosting the cognitive abilities of our own

02:43:27.760 soldiers or impeding in some way the cognitive abilities of the enemy and you can do this with

02:43:33.600 everything from microchips to trauma which is what mk ultra was right or gas or chemicals in in some

02:43:41.280 way yes yeah which is of course the number one thing that scientists would like to do because

02:43:47.280 you know there was that great um book lab 258 i think it was about all of the crazy biological

02:43:54.400 experiments um and it was all about you know what their dream is to end war how do you end war well

02:44:00.720 Well, what if you just incapacitate an entire nation and there's no length that they won't go to to solve?

02:44:07.640 Like you had said, war is fire.

02:44:09.220 How do we solve a fire? 0.86

02:44:10.620 Well, gas or sound waves or we put something in the water that makes people like put put fucking LSD in a city's water and then we just move in. 0.99

02:44:20.800 And, you know, maybe they just rape and kill each other. 0.99

02:44:23.060 But that's better than, you know, Dresden or something. 0.99

02:44:26.660 That's what they're thinking.

02:44:27.600 so it's all about like the mind as a new theater of war and that to me is the most um you know

02:44:35.540 frightening aspect of it oh it's terrifying yeah but i mean i also think you need to say they've

02:44:40.200 been doing that for 50 years uh we've seen a lot of evolution that way but you know they're not 1.00

02:44:46.200 already doing that shit with these uh fucking screens and phones and video games and 5g all 0.99

02:44:52.000 other bullshit uh you know i don't think any of this stuff happens in a vacuum exactly that's why 1.00

02:44:58.020 i like i keep using the phrase a mind-bending war you know just when i when i look ahead 0.86

02:45:04.140 it's not good it's not anything it seems like a a landscape that is uniquely designed to eradicate

02:45:13.540 heroes you know i mean like no one no one gets out of that without having their mind even shattered 0.98

02:45:18.500 even more and it's just robots and it's just fucking mind gas it's like it's like a fucking 0.98

02:45:24.980 um what was that guy who wrote naked lunch um william s burroughs like war is a william s 0.99

02:45:31.420 burroughs book in the future right that was entirely possible um so moving on to the next

02:45:38.420 question i had a couple of questions um submitted by uh listeners um i'll get to these are kind of

02:45:44.960 looser questions but i just wanted to ask you this first given everything what we discussed

02:45:50.440 what did you think of that movie civil war did you get a chance to watch that at all 0.70

02:45:55.220 that was that a24 movie fuck no man dude i haven't i haven't been to the last movie i went to was the

02:46:00.880 super mario brother movie and that's the only one i've seen in the last year you know that's just 0.86

02:46:04.840 kind of that's how it goes with that when you have kids that are my age like i haven't seen i haven't

02:46:09.720 seen anything adult

02:46:10.620 I haven't seen anything rated

02:46:13.540 PG-13 or above in like

02:46:15.620 five years. What could

02:46:17.380 Mario have done from a

02:46:19.740 military standpoint to stop

02:46:21.660 the recurring threat of Bowser?

02:46:24.320 Instead of just walking there, I would 1.00

02:46:25.720 have shot him in the head for like a 1.00

02:46:27.700 mile away with 338 Lapua 0.98

02:46:29.080 killed him dead. Or if I couldn't do that, I would have bought

02:46:31.660 him off and had him

02:46:33.320 run the Koopa Kingdom for me.

02:46:35.760 That's interesting. I never heard that one

02:46:37.520 because I'm like, of course, I would burn

02:46:39.360 bowser live but that's that's that's a 2010 thinking brother yeah yeah what can we get

02:46:46.660 bowser with crypto i say yes right wrong people say no do i have a little ca guy that can recruit

02:46:53.120 bowser and work for me yeah yeah see see bowser's an enemy you understand if you can understand 0.79

02:46:59.500 your enemy you can control your enemy what what does bowser want he wants money he wants sex 0.98

02:47:05.540 look I got this guy in my pocket 0.98

02:47:07.580 right now I don't even got to write the rest

02:47:09.520 of this if we can clone Taylor

02:47:11.560 Swift we can clone Princess Peach it's fine

02:47:13.460 see how I tied all that back together

02:47:15.540 there's all these guys

02:47:17.260 raising their head I want Princess Peach I don't

02:47:19.520 want Taylor Swift 0.99

02:47:20.040 we just added the whole chat as a bunch of god damn 0.98

02:47:23.560 cartoons are on the table 0.94

02:47:27.320 I don't know what the equivalent is for furries but whatever that means 0.98

02:47:31.560 for cartoons like god damn it 0.92

02:47:32.840 because peach is like them cheating i'm like i'm not a furry see it's a it's a woman 0.98

02:47:38.660 right it's fine it's fine she could have tail under that dress i don't know um another question

02:47:44.500 this was actually submitted by meta prime uh prior to us going live he wanted to know your take and

02:47:51.100 this has nothing to do with really what we're saying but your take on the second attempt on 0.97

02:47:56.040 donald trump's life the second shooter uh what do you think about all that holy fuck is what i think 0.89

02:48:02.920 about that uh i mean this was like a predictable outcome to a degree like uh like like we we kind 0.98

02:48:09.480 of all knew that they were just going to keep going also we kind of were like nah there's no

02:48:13.100 way come on man this is ridiculous but this fits a cycle uh most empires when they're collapsing

02:48:19.200 is when you see uh political violence really ratcheting up and i i honestly thought we would

02:48:25.020 see this like four years ago we kind of we started to see it then but it has not progressed as quickly

02:48:29.680 as i thought it would but uh but this is where we are this is uh this is how things start and uh

02:48:35.160 you know next thing you know it's uh you know judges getting killed on both sides uh this guy 0.92

02:48:39.180 you know put an attitude in jail so they fucking whacked him and you know this guy you know i don't 0.99

02:48:43.280 know some bullshit with bump stocks so he got whacked once this cycle starts once once everybody 0.99

02:48:48.980 realizes like that will actually solve your problems to a degree uh and they start being 0.98

02:48:56.520 willing to do that to win it man it just this is how things escalate and uh so i mean i just think

02:49:01.660 this was i mean this was inevitable i'm surprised it doesn't happen more i know that's a dangerous

02:49:08.860 thing to say i'm not advocating that should happen more but the given the tensions in the country

02:49:14.020 i'm kind of surprised that there aren't more assassination attempts on politicians the last

02:49:19.000 thing we had was you know january 6th which wasn't anything right but it's like you know why aren't

02:49:26.260 there more people you know elon musk that tweet that got him in trouble where it's like why aren't

02:49:31.680 people trying to eliminate kamala harris and people took that as a threat but i'm like it's

02:49:36.220 actually a good question right this should be happening every day if you watch the news

02:49:41.900 Right.

02:49:42.420 Well, this is exactly what I mean, though.

02:49:44.460 This is because in some reason, it's only one-sided in the chat.

02:49:47.300 That's true.

02:49:48.440 But being one-sided can only go on so long before the other team is like, you know what? 0.99

02:49:55.880 This is how we're doing shit? 0.99

02:49:56.920 Cool. 0.99

02:49:57.400 All right.

02:49:58.060 Let's do it.

02:49:59.140 And, I mean, this is exactly how you get Kansas, Missouri right here.

02:50:03.440 Like nationwide, though.

02:50:04.540 This is exactly how it goes. 0.69

02:50:06.480 And I mean, this is why, like, you know, Colombia was like a hellhole in the 70s and 80s because of exactly this.

02:50:13.220 I mean, how many politicians did Mexico lose their last election cycle? 0.98

02:50:16.540 Like 120 dudes are running for office, just getting fucking smoked every other day. 0.98

02:50:23.800 Once it starts escalating, though, it's very hard to turn off. 0.98

02:50:26.580 And that's I mean, it's really the danger that we're in right now.

02:50:29.300 And again, I think it's inevitable.

02:50:30.760 yeah i think that's a great point that once it really once people start to see that it's possible

02:50:37.380 because i think a lot of like on our side you got guys like tim pool saying we're on the verge of a

02:50:42.300 civil war yet a civil war hasn't kicked off because i think everyone is predicting something

02:50:47.480 like that but no one wants to be the first one to do it but once it starts to you know kick off in

02:50:54.880 some way maybe the snowball just starts rolling and then you can't stop it oh no that's exactly

02:51:00.680 how it goes i mean they uh i mean you remember this too they have all the crazy people like 0.99

02:51:05.180 like literally they have all the people on like you know fucking prozac and shit on their team 0.93

02:51:09.220 so those people are gonna go a little bit uh earlier but yeah it's it it is inevitable because 0.93

02:51:16.680 once like i said once it gets to a point the last thing you want is the guys you know this is a

02:51:24.200 cliche, but the guys that want to be left alone, you don't want them 0.98

02:51:26.140 fucking involved. You got a bunch of dudes 0.96

02:51:28.180 right now that are really happy with, like, air 1.00

02:51:30.180 conditioning, and my fucking garbage gets 0.99

02:51:32.080 taken out at the corner, and 1.00

02:51:34.260 I can go to the grocery store.

02:51:37.400 Once, though, 0.97

02:51:38.220 you, like, make things such a shithole

02:51:40.000 that that's not possible anymore,

02:51:42.380 well, things change.

02:51:44.180 All right, and once you show the other

02:51:46.060 team that, like, well, I guess we're going to 0.98

02:51:48.140 fucking kill our way out of this, 0.99

02:51:50.520 that's when things get really bad. 0.99

02:51:52.640 We have an interest in common here

02:51:54.140 from requited who says if people stop thinking trump can win i think things get interesting

02:51:59.500 there is still some hope that the system works and i i do think that's uh that's underneath the

02:52:07.600 surface of a lot of people even the most dissident minds they still hold on to this belief that well

02:52:13.660 the system is too powerful this can't nothing significant will happen even though we fantasize

02:52:19.480 about collapse i think people secretly never think it's going to happen but people would have thought

02:52:25.260 that in the soviet union people have thought that throughout time and maybe the if there is a

02:52:30.100 collapse it won't look exactly like how you're thinking like every black swan event does but

02:52:35.680 you know i like to remind people that if you read the news right now it kind of feels and has for

02:52:41.060 some time that you are in something like a race war currently um if you look at the obvious there's

02:52:47.900 been quite a lot of transgender mass shootings that they get reported on for a day then we forget

02:52:53.600 about but if you actually look at the numbers there's been a lot of transgender shootings like 0.98

02:52:58.240 transgender individuals shooting up schools and whatnot like i said crazy people yeah exactly i'm 0.79

02:53:03.920 like that is happening now people no it is it absolutely is the uh the thing that people don't 0.92

02:53:11.040 take into account with the other nothing ever happens guys is uh is the build-up uh build-up

02:53:16.760 to the u.s civil war was like 20 years uh 20 years and then out on the frontier things got a little

02:53:22.360 spicy and then finally it kicked off uh build up the revolutionary war was like 10 or maybe 15 years 0.95

02:53:30.040 and uh and we're talking crazy shit like uh you know regulators coming down out of the mountains 1.00

02:53:34.040 in north carolina and up loyalists on the coast uh the rich guys are loyalists uh for being assholes 0.99

02:53:40.440 like 10 years before the revolutionary war started uh it's easy in in retrospect to be like oh and 0.99

02:53:47.680 then fucking the thing happened it's not how anything works there's always a build-up or

02:53:51.840 almost always yeah and on the topic of the uh american civil war you know we read this fascinating 0.98

02:53:57.900 book uh the true history of the american revolution by a sydney george fisher we cover that on the

02:54:03.200 show and one thing that people when they think of the civil war they think of line combats you know

02:54:09.080 because it's very cinematic but what never gets discussed is all of the intense what we might call

02:54:15.000 guerrilla warfare happening you know there was highwaymen there was ambushes in the forest like 0.97

02:54:19.840 there was some really brutal stuff just skirmishes happening all over the fucking place oh yeah that 0.97

02:54:25.140 built and you can guarantee there were dudes over there just for the money uh they had nothing to 0.99

02:54:29.480 do with the cause of either side uh opportunists you know all kinds of crazy shit all that shit 0.91

02:54:33.960 comes out oh and uh el makes a point here says thomas 777 friend of the show makes this point 0.99

02:54:40.760 he says the best option for the u.s government is to let trump have another term to bring the

02:54:45.160 temperature down on the right i think this is right uh he's i mean there's also a point that

02:54:51.240 you know trump's kind of their guy too like uh like i believe that he's made a deal with the

02:54:55.400 intelligence community that's why he's got advanced and uh if you were gonna like draft

02:54:59.800 the white guys to go to ukraine would you have joe biden do it or kamala harris or would you

02:55:04.820 have trump do it yeah exactly and you know we've you know as much as we like trump at the podium

02:55:12.760 being amusing and whatnot you know we have not been trump guys on this show for quite some time

02:55:19.200 um and furthermore the news that he might be sleeping with laura loomer i mean it is over

02:55:26.280 is she really a chick or a dude okay good question a fair question it is a woman who has had so much 1.00

02:55:35.200 puzzling plastic surgery that now she looks like a ghoul yeah no shit bro that shit gives me 1.00

02:55:42.120 fucking nightmares like like like i check under my bed with a flashlight yeah she she really is 1.00

02:55:48.980 an unfortunate woman so it started with a nose job for obvious reasons and then she just kept 1.00

02:55:55.180 going and now she always just looks like she's shellacked like she's glistening but it's not

02:56:03.740 sweet it's like it's like a layer of of shining something on her face and it's just it's odd

02:56:10.460 but she ended up you know hoovering her way up to trump i guess and uh you know this was this

02:56:18.380 was a debate in the chat with um some of our guys this is a complete tangent going on right now but 0.63

02:56:22.540 it's from like why why her this is totally gone off the fucking rails but i just want to answer 0.73

02:56:28.000 this question people will say why laura loomer and i said you know at the end of the day trump 0.90

02:56:31.740 is like i don't know 78 something like that i'm like you gotta understand you know at that he's

02:56:36.760 still an old fat man and they're like okay doesn't he have all the money in the world he could get

02:56:41.880 any woman he wants i'm like here's the thing about men then i truly believe this at a certain level 1.00

02:56:48.500 you don't want to just sleep with a whore or a prostitute you do want to sleep with a woman 0.98

02:56:53.400 who looks like she adores you and is magnetized by you and at that age and at that weight maybe 1.00

02:57:01.360 the only people are the lower loomers of the world because i i give this example my wife's

02:57:06.740 younger than me five years younger than me who's cooler than robert de niro right one of america's 0.97

02:57:13.400 top actors one of the coolest guys who ever lived to my wife robert de niro is the guy from meet the 0.99

02:57:19.100 fuckers i had to take her on a tour and she's most women don't give a shit about movies right 0.97

02:57:25.020 so i'm like for robert de niro if he wants to get laid he's got nothing to bring to the table for a 1.00

02:57:30.120 25 year old right so he's gotta he's gotta find like a really weird younger woman or an older

02:57:35.760 woman but it's like the sexual market value of these guys probably isn't as high as most people

02:57:41.080 think a fame chaser which is not okay yeah that's fair yeah and also maybe maybe trump's got weird

02:57:46.380 fetishes i mean stormy's not exactly attractive you know and again i was defending arnold

02:57:53.460 schwarzenegger who famously slept with his his housekeeper there was like oh why her i'm like

02:57:59.780 you know what she's around and she probably knows who he is like a 25 year old they might know that

02:58:06.360 their dad was in arnold schwarzinger that's sad but he's been in some bad movies lately he's he's 0.96

02:58:11.660 not the arnie that we know right look at look at this is the discourse i'm here god damn it 0.98

02:58:16.780 there's more men who would fuck arnold schwarzinger right now than women i'm just gonna go 0.96

02:58:21.720 and that's the sad state of affairs so that's what now laura loomer makes sense because like 0.99

02:58:30.220 she's made it her mission in life to like give him that like crazy eyed look that meant that 1.00

02:58:36.920 that men do fall for at some points you know um so i required a loomer source of brain worms 0.96

02:58:42.460 confirmed rfk broke free but now trump has been taken over anyway we start talking with the civil

02:58:49.840 war i'm like here's what lord loomer brings the table her mouth

02:58:54.020 this has gone down a road that i never anticipated so yeah that's cool

02:59:01.160 well a lot of these guys they don't think like guys that's what i noticed i'm like to me like

02:59:05.660 explaining this like yeah you know how guys think you know if it doesn't matter if you're married

02:59:10.580 to a 10 every guy's married to a 10 yeah but then a new six comes along and you're like

02:59:15.920 patrice o'neill had that great bit where it's like yeah you know you man you love your wife

02:59:22.580 you love your family you never risk it you see that woman passed out in the trash over there 0.98

02:59:27.220 would you risk it all would you risk it all for that like it's it's dumb i'm not defending 0.97

02:59:34.920 i'm just saying how it is i got bill wilson you're saying split slam pig itis yeah sorry 0.88

02:59:43.900 we were talking we got we got important things to talk about right now we got i got i got the

02:59:49.720 i got clay martin here what am i doing talking about all this i'm an expert no just kidding 1.00

02:59:56.600 look look before i i met the love of my life i had just a track record of the worst women 0.98

03:00:04.640 imaginable like i if anyone knows it's me that's why you lock down that's how i know i met the good 0.99

03:00:11.620 when i met all the wrong ones just real man just a rogues gallery of dumpster fires okay

03:00:21.040 and uh sorry i have another question here from a listener oh we got two-bit podcast here smash

03:00:26.900 that like button you gotta smash it you got you gotta snipe that like button gentlemen

03:00:30.720 and this will probably lead to the next topic because i wanted to talk about um the concept

03:00:37.480 the barbarian right and i don't know how long i have you for if you need to leave anytime soon

03:00:41.720 let me know i'm good just yeah i'm straight i'm good here here's the question in wrath of the

03:00:47.040 wendigo one of your books you have the pagans and the christians team up is that just from

03:00:52.440 your time in the military with the common belief in valhalla or do you see this manifesting in

03:00:58.280 other ways today uh this is an interesting question because i met zero pagans when i was

03:01:07.940 in the military uh because and this is something i talk about in the new one of barbarian spirit

03:01:13.120 because for the most part paganism especially in this country has been 0.98

03:01:17.320 fucking nerds uh and that's just how it has been uh it has it's it's been fucking hot topic guys 0.98

03:01:24.500 and shit and uh so it was actually kind of like a a step to like start to see paganism in a 0.99

03:01:32.500 different way as like a like an option like a realistic option like man you know what i'm 0.99

03:01:36.160 talking about like come on dude fucking 10 years ago who did you know there was a pagan you could 0.99

03:01:41.000 take fucking seriously it wasn't just like a fucking retard the only pagan like when i was 0.99

03:01:46.420 younger the only pagan that was seen as serious that wasn't a leftist pagan because a lot of 1.00

03:01:51.920 people forget that oh jesus christ you know there's a whole lot of gay vikings out there

03:01:57.620 that we hope to forget about but then the guy was varg vikerness and varg vikerness is still a bit

03:02:04.600 of a meme who doesn't love varg yeah of course right and he he's living the life but uh he's

03:02:10.720 he's got some personality quirks let's just say so he was the only one i could think of and i i

03:02:15.880 don't even know how serious he is with his paganism or if it's just anti-christianity you

03:02:20.700 know well i guess kind of my point is like there were not a lot and especially like in the millage 0.89

03:02:25.100 there was fucking not like anybody you saw that was like uh the pagan it was like we want beer 0.98

03:02:29.140 there were some fucking you know dildo guy that had nothing to do with the fucking war uh and it 0.99

03:02:36.820 actually turns out there was i did know a very good pig and i just didn't know he was the one 0.97

03:02:39.940 and he's dead now i just didn't know this until like two years ago but uh but anyway so when i 0.91

03:02:46.420 was starting to write when to go and also when i'm kind of like figuring out my shit 0.96

03:02:50.660 uh it's you know maybe i'll figure out one day but in my late 30s trying to figure out my shit 0.96

03:02:55.340 uh from being like like a like an atheist from all my years in the war uh to like i'm gonna say 0.70

03:03:02.960 actually 2017 2017 2018 like man like like shit is not right out there and i've seen the dark side 0.98

03:03:12.040 of that first with all like that the fucking kid raping and uh like that the side of the child 0.99

03:03:17.720 silence crazy shit when it like got to a point where you couldn't ignore it anymore like this is 1.00

03:03:22.440 really these motherfuckers in charge like they at least some of them believe all this nut bar 1.00

03:03:27.240 shit and they're doing this shit fd island like who knows what the fuck was actually going on there 1.00

03:03:32.040 once you see the dark side all right and you have to like start hoping that there's a light side too 1.00

03:03:36.760 uh but for me like christianity was like a bridge to fall i just just know uh so that was kind of

03:03:45.640 where i started reconsidering like like paganism is like a like a viable option and uh i still see

03:03:51.640 it that way and i see it that way i wrote it that way in windigo because i see it as a very viable

03:03:56.120 option uh especially for the guys that are so turned off by the modern cucked version of 0.96

03:04:02.440 christianity that is most of it that is the uh you know fucking bend the knee and turn the other 1.00

03:04:07.640 cheek and you know take it up the ass and uh all you got to do is fucking die in place like uh you 1.00

03:04:15.160 know that's fucking retarded men aren't doing that so i i do see it as a an extremely viable 1.00

03:04:25.560 uh alliance uh between you know christianity needs a revival also they need to find like 0.99

03:04:32.280 their fucking templar spirit and their uh you know crusaders and the fucking the old they define the 0.98

03:04:38.200 the christians that conquered the west uh be that the west north america western i don't give a 0.99

03:04:42.440 shit whichever one and paganism is a really good uh alternative for the guys that just are not 0.96

03:04:48.840 going to do the christianity thing uh we just have to kind of like take take it back we'd be 1.00

03:04:53.480 be like you don't want to fuck you this is ours and uh all the gay pagans and you know wicked 1.00

03:04:59.040 fucking essential oil sales bitches can go over that yeah i think it's important to have a hard 1.00

03:05:06.180 demarcation between pagans and witches because i always found witches as just the funniest example 1.00

03:05:13.200 where i'm like i understand the logic behind what you're doing it's just you're not good at it you

03:05:17.540 could actually make a metaphysical you can mount a metaphysical defense of spells right i've heard

03:05:23.540 people do that but i'm like but there's a reason why witches can't get it right you're just not

03:05:27.100 good at it you're just like you're only using this so you can like take down an enemy or make 1.00

03:05:34.420 yourself not fat and of course that's not going to work so it's just it's it's it's girls being

03:05:39.940 silly frankly but paganism is its own thing um there's some very interesting conversations

03:05:46.580 happening in our spaces right now because you know when i was coming up you know i'm old enough

03:05:52.000 to remember the christianity versus atheism debates in fact that was all the internet was for

03:05:57.180 oh yeah a few years yeah and we kind of litigated that out and it's been pagans versus christianity

03:06:03.920 for a while and we're all familiar with the arguments everyone's heard everything but there's

03:06:09.100 a few interesting people uh one of my friends by the name of fortisax is one where he's a pagan

03:06:14.860 and i'm a catholic but we both kind of feel the same way about each other's side like our

03:06:20.640 respective sides you know he's got critiques of paganism i got my critiques of christianity and

03:06:24.540 we're like we're working around the margins of it and finding commonalities right both from like a

03:06:31.160 21st century perspective which probably upsets a lot of people but i'm like i'm seeing more people

03:06:36.800 do that now that's very fascinating no it is it's uh it's it's really fucking weird how it's come 0.99

03:06:42.980 full circle on this but that makes a good alliance like should we fuck kids like no oh cool we're on 1.00

03:06:48.440 the same team let's get those motherfuckers like that makes i can get behind that and it's weird 1.00

03:06:54.460 that we even have to have that conversation yeah and if you're like me and you're a spurg and you 0.99

03:07:00.220 start looking in the history of it you see how you know the history of christianity for example

03:07:04.800 in germany is very interesting and what what pagan elements were retained in the christianization

03:07:11.660 process um you know the one example i gave off the top of my head was from that book albion seed

03:07:16.840 which some people don't like but i always noticed that um how he defines a folk like what is a

03:07:22.540 people how do you define a people well there's actually like 20 to 40 bullet points you can

03:07:26.980 and there's like marriage ways and clothing ways and all these different ways and one was religious

03:07:32.340 ways and there was magic ways and it was saying that even with the quakers and even with you know

03:07:38.340 all the all the four main european groups that came over to america they had their distinct

03:07:44.600 religious beliefs but they always carried with them these superstitions and these magical beliefs

03:07:48.700 you know i always gave the example of many christians will believe in heaven but also ghosts

03:07:55.200 and that doesn't really make sense doesn't really jive right yeah but you can you actually can just 0.59

03:08:00.820 believe in both you can just be a hypocrite it doesn't matter i'm not saying that in a pejorative 0.98

03:08:05.140 way that's how most people fucking are and so even in what's interesting about christianity 0.99

03:08:10.380 is it's kind of welded on in many cases to whatever the culture is and just i'm not saying 0.98

03:08:16.120 that's it just gets recontextualized but there are cases where a lot of the old pagan stuff is

03:08:22.560 retained not the same everywhere but there's an interesting history there is all i'm saying

03:08:26.680 especially in germany but no i i agree fully yeah and uh so we got required to hear dutton's

03:08:32.660 conclusion is best oh this is about witches witches always were spiteful mutants that's true

03:08:38.180 um and also you know sean schaefer makes a good point here it's kind of late to debate

03:08:44.100 fundamental ideals uh interesting stuff and i also think that the types of people that are

03:08:50.180 having these debates they are millennials and gen z gen x to a lesser degree but you know we feel

03:08:56.160 we're very de-territorialized people you know most of us come from this background of alienation

03:09:02.220 of arguably nihilism as well and so like we were talking about originally about how do you as a

03:09:09.080 lone individual find your tribe find your crew they're similarly doing that with religion and

03:09:15.760 rituals too so you have a lot of people like i for a lot of these guys and i'm like this i'm the

03:09:21.400 first one in my family in many generations to be asking these questions and be doing these things

03:09:26.720 so you're learning a lot of stuff for the first time that's a lot of pressure to put on you know

03:09:31.800 a young man you know 30 something still young by the way i'm not old doesn't matter but it's that

03:09:38.380 that's a problem that i think a lot of people are facing and i think that leads into one of your

03:09:44.380 books the way of the barbarian oh barbarian spirit barbarian spirit yes sorry i got that

03:09:50.180 way of the way to go there um but i this is one i didn't read yet but i have it lined up and i

03:09:57.100 saw a tweet you made the other day about your excitement about the possibility of calling this

03:10:03.200 thing of ours the barbarian right hell yeah and if you maybe you could start with that and then

03:10:08.820 we can get into the barbarian spirit generally sure this is uh this is actually this is actually

03:10:14.360 kind of two beliefs fucking welded together themselves uh barbarian spirit is is actually

03:10:19.720 all about what happened to me when i uh entered got introduced to hallucinogenics in the form of 0.98

03:10:26.460 mushrooms for me uh and the shit that i saw and for to be a a non-spiritual guy and take some 0.88

03:10:34.140 shit and subsequently see some shit that was a big i mean huge change uh and this was i mean 1.00

03:10:41.340 it's only started like a year ago uh and i man i went down some fucking crazy crazy fucking holes 0.99

03:10:47.220 uh but where that relates to what i'm talking about now for uh for like a like a survival 0.90

03:10:53.500 strategy is man i really believe this and i'm still whining out exactly how this would work 0.89

03:10:58.840 but this is you know so again it's the brain trust is everybody's every every shit we are 0.95

03:11:03.660 going to have to find ourselves i think in the barbarian villages again we're going to have to 0.98

03:11:07.780 build our own little communes and towns and shit uh because we just won't survive otherwise this 0.99

03:11:13.920 is like stepping up the uh the tribal shit to like like like real shit so the barbarian rights 0.99

03:11:23.400 is that you know one one of the things i saw we talked about this i think in one group chat or 0.99

03:11:29.520 another and i won't describe exactly what you're saying but it was the topic of vitalism and it was

03:11:36.000 on the topic of you know the vitalist sphere which could be categorized as you know bronze age

03:11:41.360 pervert and it always seems like there's a blank age something you know there's i think there's

03:11:46.620 like an iron age mindset as well i'm sure they're fine but there seems to be you know i'm a

03:11:52.700 silicon age grind set but there seemed to be a lot of different flavors of this sort of vitalism

03:11:59.320 you know of seizing a masculine energy i was wondering would you say that yours stands apart 0.95

03:12:05.120 from those other ones oh fuck yes yes without question i i was gonna say you know in the past 0.97

03:12:13.800 we've we've said some things about bronze age pervert in his book we went very deep on his book 0.99

03:12:18.920 and dissected it but i don't want to put any words in your mouth where would you say you

03:12:22.960 sat apart this is actually a weird thing to come up because it's it's something that i've only been

03:12:29.160 trying to sort out for like a week because somebody else kind of put it in my head and

03:12:32.180 kind of like like holy shit but this was a concept of uh any like mystical warrior tradition has to 0.92

03:12:40.680 start with the warrior part first uh and again this is like still exploratory shit but uh 0.99

03:12:46.760 it's a samurai Shaolin monks Templars uh fucking all kinds of other shit it uh oh Socrates Plato 0.99

03:12:56.200 they were they were warriors first uh and then they became the philosopher or the you know 0.99

03:13:03.080 introduced the mystery so that was all shit that was like later on and I think that's I I think 0.75

03:13:09.420 that may be accurate that would be actually correct but as far as like the vitalism of all 0.99

03:13:13.020 as other fucking chuckleheads go yeah mine does stand apart because like i've killed people for 0.98

03:13:17.340 a living like i've done the fucking murder piece uh that you can't start talking about being a 0.99

03:13:24.620 barbarian uh in in uh in my opinion unless you're both uh have done that or the i want to be that 0.99

03:13:32.380 guy i want to be willing to be that fucking guy and nobody else is i shouldn't say nobody else 0.85

03:13:39.580 nobody else that i've seen in these like particularly philosophy camps it really gets 0.99

03:13:45.720 that they don't fucking understand that their idea of violence is maybe they hit a guy one time or 0.98

03:13:50.420 said they did shut the fuck up man this is that's not how this is going to work when this when this 0.99

03:13:56.920 changes you're talking like rivers of fucking blood to make it change yeah and that's one thing 0.99

03:14:02.600 we'd pointed on the show um a while ago you know it's easy for men especially young men to get lost 0.98

03:14:09.360 and fantasies of collapse and and warfare but i always try and temper that with the knowledge of

03:14:15.120 you have no idea how bad it's gonna get because we all like to you know oftentimes we'll you know

03:14:20.800 imagine like it's a zombie apocalypse or something but read accounts of what happened in the you know

03:14:27.440 former soviet bloc countries where things really did collapse and people you'll see there's no 0.98

03:14:33.280 no limit to the indignities you will see visited upon your fellow man you're seeing mothers sell

03:14:39.200 their daughters into prostitution things that will like break your soul and i think it's

03:14:43.680 irresponsible to you know anticipate that with any positivity and that's just my you know maybe

03:14:50.500 be a bit too romantic about it but i'm like when we talk about when it gets bad i don't think people

03:14:55.820 are thinking about how bad it's gonna get i don't think they are again we have to start all right 0.90

03:15:00.480 And this is, again, this is why we have to really start thinking about these, like, violence roads and shit. 0.75

03:15:11.560 Not because, you know, I'm advocating, I don't know, whatever. 0.89

03:15:15.120 Any of the three things that will get you, like, you know, instantly visited by the Secret Service and the FBI and DHS.

03:15:20.880 But inevitably, there's going to be violence with change.

03:15:25.640 There's going to be violence.

03:15:26.500 Like you said already, we're in kind of like a low-grade race war right now. 1.00

03:15:31.100 That's real shit. 1.00

03:15:33.040 That's fucking happening. 1.00

03:15:34.380 Like, it's obvious. 1.00

03:15:36.100 We cannot just get lost in the fucking books. 0.99

03:15:39.640 We have to grow a group of guys that are, even if we can't practice it yet, are ready to be fucking violent. 1.00

03:15:46.700 Like, understand that shit. 0.99

03:15:48.480 That has to be the, you know, kind of the bedrock of what anything has formed on. 0.99

03:15:53.540 you know there was one um i'm sure this was said flippantly and in jest but there was this one

03:16:00.940 part of bronze age mindset where he had said that you were talking about the warrior spirit and he's

03:16:06.720 like i'm not talking about soldiers of today which are like losers who serve their eunuch overlords 0.97

03:16:13.520 i'm like okay look i mean i talk i talk a lot of mad shit on the show i'm like i don't think i'd 0.99

03:16:18.780 call seal team six a bunch of gay losers especially if you are like a gay man yourself you know i 0.99

03:16:26.140 mean so it's it's i always think about that i'm like you know if we're talking about violence 0.99

03:16:32.240 you should perhaps prioritize the people who have taken a life who might you know reading the like

03:16:38.920 autobiography of oswald mosley not to drag you out to this but he's got this phenomenal autobiography

03:16:45.680 and he, like many others

03:16:47.840 they served in World War I

03:16:49.900 and served seriously in the war

03:16:51.540 and he came out the other side saying

03:16:53.340 he was in Parliament

03:16:55.520 and he was noticing that, this is why he hated

03:16:57.680 Churchill, because he said Churchill was too

03:16:59.800 eager for war, but he came

03:17:01.720 out the other side of World War I

03:17:03.660 wanting peace, because he'd

03:17:05.660 seen it, same thing with Hitler, same thing with a lot of these guys

03:17:07.940 so I take that seriously too 1.00

03:17:11.400 No, I mean, it's an important thing

03:17:13.600 it really is

03:17:15.100 um yeah but yeah for our guys man that's again it doesn't mean you have to like you know emulate

03:17:23.380 my bullshit or any of the other there are quite a few dudes that are like you know legit also like 0.88

03:17:28.400 on twitter kind of kind of in this space doesn't get to emulate our bullshit either uh it just 1.00

03:17:33.580 means that like i'm definitely not having though a thought leader be like some fucking chuckle fuck 1.00

03:17:39.920 like a Broadway pervert. 1.00

03:17:42.440 Fuck off, man. What have you done? 1.00

03:17:44.780 You banged some chicks in a sorority 1.00

03:17:46.360 with that? Fuck you, man. Eat my ass. 1.00

03:17:48.740 We have a comment here from 1.00

03:17:50.020 RaggedyMan74, and I think this is an interesting

03:17:52.260 path to go down. He says, for young guys,

03:17:54.420 it may be a fantasy, but for

03:17:56.100 fathers, it's being prepared mentally and

03:17:58.180 physically to do the worst. And that

03:18:00.260 makes me wonder. I talked about this

03:18:01.940 with my co-host, Judas.

03:18:04.160 Some people, especially

03:18:06.000 revolutionary-minded people, they say

03:18:08.140 men with families are compromised they're not the ones you want to rely on whereas i think you know

03:18:13.440 they might be the ones you want to rely on the most and sure they might be older but i i think

03:18:18.480 there is a new type of savagery that's unlocked when you have children you feel you need to defend 0.99

03:18:25.080 would you agree with that oh you whole fuck yes dope jesus christ it's not even fucking close 0.99

03:18:29.940 i i thought i was a violent person before i had kids and now i i even though i haven't been to 0.99

03:18:36.120 war since then i already know that it's like a factor of like 10 like like there's shit that i 0.95

03:18:42.160 would do for me and and uh you know i don't know the fucking nation if i'm still young i believe 0.97

03:18:46.240 in that or whatever bullshit and then there's shit that i would do for the kids my kids specifically 0.99

03:18:50.780 my genetic bridge of the future which is x out literally everyone else on the fucking planet 1.00

03:18:55.160 like everyone like there's no women like they're kidding like well fuck that was what it took 0.98

03:18:59.060 yeah and it's hard to you know even before i was a father i understood this abstractly 0.98

03:19:05.780 understood like oh you know i bet when i have kids i'm gonna feel this way but it's like i was

03:19:10.740 thinking about the the beginning of that movie of minority report with tom cruise where like his son

03:19:16.860 is stolen in a public pool and it's like that would drive me so insane for the rest of my life

03:19:24.780 you know i mean like i i can't even comprehend the things that i would do if that happened to me and

03:19:31.660 I think that, like I said, something is

03:19:33.740 unlocked in you when you

03:19:35.520 have a child. I think there's this really great movie called

03:19:37.700 Finest Kind that just came out that's kind of like

03:19:39.760 that with Tommy Lee Jones. This is actually

03:19:41.660 hilarious too. I just learned this like a week ago

03:19:43.820 and it's worth, anybody in the chat, go

03:19:45.560 take 30 minutes and

03:19:47.220 watch the fat electrician

03:19:49.560 story about the, I think it's the 77th 1.00

03:19:51.860 infantry division, the old bastards. 1.00

03:19:54.080 So we tend to think 1.00

03:19:55.860 of young guys being the most

03:19:57.820 violent because that's what psychologists, that's who

03:19:59.720 they tell us the most violent. That's who the military recruits.

03:20:01.800 It's actually because they're pliable, not because they're the most

03:20:03.780 violent. But in World War

03:20:05.840 II, actually, I'll make this real short 0.99

03:20:07.620 because it's a long-ass fucking story. But 0.98

03:20:09.380 in World War II, they decided to

03:20:11.040 make a division of older 0.98

03:20:13.740 dudes because they didn't know what the fuck would happen if 0.99

03:20:15.680 all the 20-year-olds died. 0.98

03:20:18.060 So they decided to make one division of

03:20:19.780 guys, the average age is like 33.

03:20:21.860 They're reducing it up to like 56 1.00

03:20:23.180 and sent them into the fucking war. 1.00

03:20:26.040 And they had this fucking 1.00

03:20:27.800 ungodly 1.00

03:20:29.260 kill to death ratio against the Japanese 0.98

03:20:31.340 like 300 to 1 1.00

03:20:33.160 and they were just like the most brutal motherfuckers 0.99

03:20:35.460 in the entire South Pacific 1.00

03:20:36.580 and that

03:20:39.420 was very eye opening

03:20:40.980 this is something you know being

03:20:42.960 like a military guy like most

03:20:45.180 special forces are in their 30s

03:20:47.800 it tends to be an older man's 0.99

03:20:49.660 fucking thing if you're 28 you're like the youngest 1.00

03:20:51.580 guy in the fucking team 1.00

03:20:52.440 those are typically also 1.00

03:20:55.280 the most violent and

03:20:57.060 and most

03:20:58.680 experienced and they've got that combination of like strength and experience and judgment that's

03:21:04.880 all like very fucking lethal put together so uh so yeah i mean guys in their 30s and like dads

03:21:12.480 with you know 10 year olds probably actually they're the hardest ones to get into like i don't 0.98

03:21:18.080 know let's do some crazy shit but once they do like they're fucking in it to win it yeah and i 0.83

03:21:23.640 think especially in our political spaces it seems that we've always tilted towards younger guys 0.98

03:21:30.020 but even yeah i don't even want to say this but there's there's a famous german chancellor

03:21:37.640 who wrote a book once where he had made the comment angela merkel it was as angela yeah h

03:21:45.320 merkel but he had made a point that said no one should get into politics before the age of 30

03:21:51.060 which is completely antithetical to what most people like i know 22 year olds who want to get 0.97

03:21:56.040 into politics but he had said yeah no no one before the age of three knows what the fuck 0.96

03:21:59.560 they're talking about and even still after that you don't really yeah i didn't know shit when i 0.98

03:22:03.400 was 25 i wanted to like chase some girls and you know get drunk and not have a hangover i was going 0.95

03:22:08.020 to do all that shit you know i didn't know shit yeah and and so you know because so many of us 0.97

03:22:14.460 on our side are nietzscheans we have this and this is i guess where the you know vitalist thing is 0.99

03:22:18.840 like they love youth they love young male energy but you know the older i get and maybe i'm biased

03:22:25.660 because i'm an old chunk of coal but i'm like i i think a more valuable resource for these types

03:22:33.300 of crews will be older guys and they would have not only the strength of will but also the resources

03:22:39.440 to maybe do some of the stuff anyway that's just my you know wanton speculation which some people

03:22:46.020 might disagree with but i i do think that i'm right and everyone's wrong so let that be said

03:22:51.500 yeah um so let me see if there's any other questions here that was actually all that i

03:22:59.340 had i wanted to see if you had any more stuff about the um the vitalist sphere but i don't

03:23:04.380 want to get you into trouble i don't want to start no no no drama here no it's uh you know

03:23:08.600 and honestly i don't know a lot about because there's actually a sphere that i'd normally like 0.87

03:23:12.140 ignore uh because like i got shit going on i got like kids and guns and shit to do uh so i i've

03:23:18.620 i've honestly have never given the uh the vital sphere like a lot of credit uh as far as like

03:23:23.980 actually being like a movement now there's two sides to this coin one i appreciate like our 0.98

03:23:29.180 younger dudes that they see that everything's all fucked up and they're the most fucked too 0.98

03:23:32.780 because they're they're just like in their early 20s like looking around like everything is fucked 0.99

03:23:37.100 and it is uh so they're the ones that have to think about the future the most in a way they 0.88

03:23:42.700 have to think about uh well we can no longer do xyz jobs we had to build a parallel economy you

03:23:48.220 see them pouring a lot of energy into that that's important um a lot of them are very politically

03:23:53.980 active and that's very important uh i just think that we we kind of all had to work together

03:23:59.660 every over the age of 40 is not a boomer actually boomers are like 60 now but we we do have to kind

03:24:05.900 We had to figure out how to work together in this. 0.99

03:24:08.560 Guys that are my age got to figure out, like, fuck, we have to take care of these. 0.99

03:24:13.940 We have to find something to help these 20-year-old dudes so that they can have a future. 0.99

03:24:17.260 They can leverage up and they can replace me when I'm dead. 0.99

03:24:21.920 We can't just be kind of content in our bullshit. 0.99

03:24:26.300 I guess we do think about this more now because, you know, I have kids, too. 0.97

03:24:28.700 So I'm actually thinking about the guys that are way younger than that.

03:24:30.600 What's the future going to be like for my eight-year-old? 0.98

03:24:32.840 how do i build a future for him where with his fucking blonde hair and blue eyes he can still 0.99

03:24:39.160 like make some money and have a house and i don't know whatever the bullshit that we need to do to 0.99

03:24:44.200 live on this yeah and i think um you know there's the old maxim uh what was it the society is it's 0.68

03:24:52.580 old men plant trees that they will never enjoy the shade of something to that effect and i think

03:24:58.000 there's maybe been a few generations that haven't done that and i don't want to throw you know 1.00

03:25:02.720 boomers or anything under the bus but haven't they haven't they are shitbags fuck them for the 0.98

03:25:07.660 most part there's some good ones but yes and so there's young guys now and this is what i was 1.00

03:25:12.280 saying before about a lot of pressure being placed on them but they they the things we do now we will

03:25:18.520 probably never enjoy the fruits of and that's just the hard reality of it and i think that's a filter

03:25:25.400 for our side that's going to keep out a lot of the con artists a lot of the low time horizon people

03:25:33.000 but we're kind of sort ranking for a type of man that can think multi-generationally and some of

03:25:40.200 that's based on faith too because you're learning a lot of stuff for the first time but i i'm i'm

03:25:45.640 optimistic about how many of those guys i'm seeing and that to me is a a true sacrifice you know and

03:25:52.800 building this thing that will outlast you and hopefully you know your your children will become

03:25:57.140 great but so i i look at you and i see i think that's what you're doing i think a lot of people

03:26:02.120 maybe more than ever before are on that wavelength right now is that what you see because you're a

03:26:07.440 very very popular author you talk to people do you get that sense as well no i totally do man i i

03:26:13.260 agree with that 100 and i mean i think another thing to add to that too we have a very difficult

03:26:19.480 thing right now and this is this is kind of actually specifically for like my my guys my

03:26:24.460 over 40 people where we have to remember how much the guys that are just not that much younger than

03:26:31.600 us but like 20 years younger than us got got fucked by having like dads that didn't teach 0.99

03:26:37.740 them how to do anything like hold a fucking hammer or change the oil in the car or they 0.99

03:26:41.740 they really more so probably than anybody else in our nation's history have not had like male 0.99

03:26:48.040 role models uh they have not had that fucking dude uh and so that's that's a problem and so 0.98

03:26:53.960 they're having to try to sort a lot of the shit out themselves and it's it's also very difficult 0.95

03:26:59.260 when it's you don't like have any authority is actually the right word here it's not like people 0.75

03:27:03.960 gonna follow me because i said so you know i mean but it's a two-way street the the super young

03:27:09.260 dudes need to like look at us and say hey there's some experience there in the 30s and 40s these 1.00

03:27:15.600 guys have seen some shit and we have to not look down at them like you know they're fucking idiots 0.99

03:27:21.420 or ratchet is we have to teach them we have to help them and you see there's actually a lot like 1.00

03:27:25.860 the trade sphere on twitter you see some dudes that are like my age or like you know old experience

03:27:29.820 like hvac guys and uh maybe one out of ten is like i got an apprentice and now you know i had 0.83

03:27:36.600 to teach him everything i had to teach him to how to put fucking pink floyd the cd player 0.77

03:27:39.920 but he's getting it and i'm teaching him and you know it's a two-way street instead of just kind 0.89

03:27:44.960 you know looking down on them so that was always the joke it's like oh this is a generation that

03:27:50.360 was given participation trophies like well who gave them the participation trophies yeah exactly

03:27:56.340 fucking right exactly fucking right yeah and it's it's partially to america becoming the most 0.88

03:28:03.140 decadent sock it's ever been you know we we have we've we pay seven dollars a day for them to make 0.98

03:28:07.980 our fucking copy for us i that was unheard of 25 years ago and this is hopefully not be going down 0.89

03:28:13.920 the iu i walked uphill to school both ways but it is it's really true things became ever more 0.97

03:28:19.420 convenient and there was more and more money around so men had to do less and less other 0.96

03:28:25.300 shit besides their job which is you know talk on the phone or whatever bullshit or this is this is 0.99

03:28:32.220 true too maybe even worse than the boomers we had a generation of men that didn't take care of their 1.00

03:28:38.800 kids they didn't understand that time investment in their kids to make them you know who they 0.89

03:28:43.900 need to be so yeah it's it's shitty for everyone if part of that too is like single moms raise so 0.99

03:28:49.240 many fucking men in this generation like goddamn man that's it's just yeah fucking bad but what's 0.99

03:28:54.680 interesting is you know my father passed when i was fairly young but i was also raised in a 1.00

03:28:59.680 generation i think my experience translates to a lot of people where you you did you're encouraged

03:29:05.460 or the parents were to be kinds of hands-off with the kids uh like you know intellectually where

03:29:11.160 It's like, we're going to let you decide what you want to learn.

03:29:14.060 We're going to let you decide.

03:29:15.040 You know, I wasn't raised in any religious or spiritual way.

03:29:18.340 They said, oh, if you like that, you'll discover it later.

03:29:20.940 But I'm like, I'm a boy.

03:29:22.840 I'm a young man.

03:29:23.660 I need guidance. 0.99

03:29:24.940 I need people to tell me what to fucking do. 0.99

03:29:26.840 Because if you don't, they just kind of languish or they get into weird violent shit. 0.99

03:29:31.520 You know what I mean? 0.98

03:29:31.820 But that was like a whole generation of parents were thought like, oh, this is the good thing to do. 0.99

03:29:37.140 Which is fucking crazy. 0.92

03:29:38.300 This is the Montessori way of doing it. 0.99

03:29:39.720 They tell us what they want, right?

03:29:41.160 right right right yeah no yeah no it's you can see why in traditional societies that it worked

03:29:47.480 out like this like uh 18 to like 24 year old dudes all right they were kind of like that

03:29:54.720 the cannon fodder like they were covered quickly but they they they were just kind of like they 0.96

03:29:59.280 could get punked out at any time by like a fucking 30 year old you know sub chief or a 40 year old 0.97

03:30:03.140 chief and they also didn't have like man strength and you know this like you know college football 1.00

03:30:07.860 and shit like a like a 21 year old will get this shit kicked out of him by a 27 year old all other 0.98

03:30:12.880 things being equal so in those types of societies and then you know the 30 year olds are kind of 1.00

03:30:18.120 getting ready to lead but they've got the the ultimate culmination of like strength experience

03:30:22.820 and the guys that are my age we got to be looking back at this like okay i'm not tough anymore i 0.83

03:30:27.740 need a fucking nap like my knees hurt i've still got i gotta lead like in an intellectual kind of 0.85

03:30:34.060 way, and I've still got to, like, call that 30-year-old and be like, hold on, man, we 0.99

03:30:38.700 did this once back in 1975, and it was shitty the way it worked out, so let's not do that. 0.76

03:30:43.560 But at the same time, like, handing the reins over, this is how a traditional, like, male

03:30:47.500 society was supposed to run.

03:30:49.600 It was never supposed to be the 60-year-olds in absolute unquestioning obedience, everybody 1.00

03:30:55.220 else doing their bullshit. 0.99

03:30:57.440 So that's actually kind of one of the ways we have to get back to barbarianism, too. 1.00

03:31:01.100 We can't just blindly follow the old fucker that, I don't know, has been around so long that now he wants to do weird shit. 0.99

03:31:07.460 And, you know, we have to get back to that place where you still have to prove your way. 1.00

03:31:13.100 You still have to carry your fucking weight. 0.99

03:31:15.480 Yeah. 1.00

03:31:16.060 And I think, you know, once again, just to repeat this, that's the most exciting thing I'm seeing from our side is these guys trying to figure out how to organize themselves.

03:31:23.740 And if they are not joining the military, trying to approximate that in some way.

03:31:29.380 because there's quite a few guys out there and maybe you do this but i know a few guys who are

03:31:33.940 like you know i was in the military i recommend you don't do it however here's how i would recommend

03:31:38.900 you get yourself into fighting shape which you can do on your own yes and don't just do don't

03:31:44.500 just like you said don't do the free course that they say oh this is like basic training no here's

03:31:49.220 how to actually do it properly right um i've just got a couple of comments here from the odyssey

03:31:56.820 stream as well um i haven't gotten these before so they might be a bit out of sync we just got a

03:32:01.700 full ford 300 inline six that need an evola gang name um and just guys saying sneed um

03:32:11.780 a lot of sneed anyway that's not a whole lot of comments on there but i just wanted to

03:32:15.940 give some love to the odyssey crap okay herb group 2.0 yeah

03:32:20.820 oh here we got a meta prime parallel networks let's go yes exactly right all right so that was

03:32:29.120 all the the time i think we had for today and i wanted to make sure that we direct people where

03:32:34.240 they should go i i believe it's wendigoswrath.com is your story can buy all your books all my books 0.69

03:32:40.500 all my bullshit and are you available anywhere else are you on you because i couldn't find you 0.62

03:32:45.020 on youtube do you spend a lot of time anywhere else i mostly spend my time on twitter between 0.99

03:32:49.320 two kids and twitter and a homestead

03:32:51.380 like that's it man that's

03:32:52.440 pretty much all the time I've got

03:32:54.480 yeah I spend you know I have a twitter

03:32:57.100 but I actually spend most of my time on

03:32:59.040 telegram so let's just make sure

03:33:01.280 I give your

03:33:02.580 your what's your twitter handle 1.00

03:33:05.100 again oh shit I gotta think 1.00

03:33:06.840 what account am I on 0.99

03:33:07.880 way off the res

03:33:10.820 way off the res

03:33:12.240 follow him there

03:33:14.440 it's a fantastic channel so

03:33:16.520 anyway I just wanted to before I let you go

03:33:18.780 thank you so much for taking the time to sit down today this has been a phenomenal conversation as

03:33:23.440 far as i'm concerned and a lot of people have been really enjoying it it looks like brother thanks for

03:33:28.120 having me on i'd love to come back anytime and yeah this is a fantastic conversation

03:33:31.700 absolutely i'll talk to you soon

03:33:34.940 hey baby i hear the blues are calling tall salads and scrambled eggs

03:33:40.760 and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you peg

03:33:48.780 But I don't...

Blood Satellite - October 11, 2024

Sun Microsystems Anal Un-Unaliving Ointment [“be eating slop updates for free if you're over that”]

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