Blood Satellite - The Goyverment has sent 6 Gorillon Messages Informing Me the Slopmoids Demand Streamrot

00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

00:00:07.720 blood satellite you know what my wife said to me last week what i don't even know how it came up

00:00:23.580 but she was uh asking about george floyd yeah and her question was is that guy dead

00:00:31.760 the one who was like i can't breathe i can't breathe

00:00:35.140 did he die this is like the mandela effect are you sure no there's no way he's actually dead

00:00:45.620 wow first of all just doing the impression alone is very funny to me it's a blessed situation

00:00:52.920 To being marriage-ly

00:00:55.040 But also not knowing that he died

00:00:57.760 Just like not knowing

00:00:59.780 The end of that story

00:01:01.160 Whatever happened there 1.00

00:01:17.520 My ass was squalled out 1.00

00:01:18.720 My penis bro no shit 1.00

00:01:20.540 Like what the fuck this all about 1.00

00:01:22.020 I'm finna shit my ass 1.00

00:01:23.700 A nigga do a dance 1.00

00:01:25.360 About to call up Stewie Griffin 1.00

00:01:26.880 Y'all niggas don't stand a chance 1.00

00:01:28.680 All this is a marge 1.00

00:01:30.340 Yeah, all my niggas living large 1.00

00:01:32.000 I just tried to eat a car 1.00

00:01:33.600 Yeah, bitch say yo, he's a tall 1.00

00:01:35.300 And your boy done act a fool 1.00

00:01:36.900 Yeah, your boy been skipping school 1.00

00:01:38.580 George Floyd was a goddamn dress 1.00

00:01:40.200 And that man run a fucking zoo 1.00

00:01:41.880 She's also doing this other thing 1.00

00:01:45.480 Which I think is very charming

00:01:47.160 But also could be very worrisome

00:01:50.240 whenever we're watching

00:01:52.720 a movie or something and an actor

00:01:54.940 will come up and

00:01:56.780 even if it's Leonardo DiCaprio

00:01:58.620 or Hugh Jackman

00:01:59.820 whatever happened to him is he dead

00:02:02.380 and I say no and then the next question 0.99

00:02:04.820 is is he gay 0.80

00:02:05.640 there's something 1.00

00:02:08.660 there's something defective something wrong

00:02:10.760 with this guy so like once 1.00

00:02:12.800 a week it's like is he dead is he gay 0.97

00:02:14.780 and the answer to the second 0.98

00:02:17.000 is yeah probably

00:02:18.700 i mean they're an actor so yeah

00:02:21.940 you ever think about that you ever think about how much lear now di cabrio must have been molested

00:02:31.940 how young did he start i don't remember seeing anything was he a child actor i tell you what

00:02:39.260 young enough young enough like how old was he in titanic like justin bieber like he's 16 17 when

00:02:44.900 he was in it yeah and his current rear trajectory has been so rocket propelled i assume he must

00:02:55.320 have been raped two ways from sunday what if what if when he got in there he immediately turned the 0.95

00:03:02.740 tables on them and became like a hyper rapist or like he was raping the producers at 17 and that's 0.96

00:03:09.160 how he got so famous you know how many guys in hollywood just said i didn't know you could do 0.95

00:03:14.320 that yeah he's got it figured out he's in there with the whip cracking the whip on weinstein

00:03:20.720 that's everyone thought everyone knows rape is involved that is the transactional process it

00:03:27.440 just never occurred to them that they could flip the script like that like oh all that matters

00:03:32.480 in this ritual is that rape happens yeah but if i'm first in the door

00:03:38.640 if they show up to the meeting for with me and i'm already there that's the power position 0.97

00:03:44.320 I'm sitting in the taller chair.

00:03:46.240 I have the high ground, you know,

00:03:48.680 because they strategize these meetings about someone gets a smaller chair,

00:03:52.520 higher chair.

00:03:53.420 I got the higher chair.

00:03:54.600 I'm wearing lifts.

00:03:56.400 The entire room is angled down. 0.97

00:03:58.960 So I'm, I'm, I'm really fucking high. 0.73

00:04:01.260 He walks into his office and you're standing in his chair, 0.95

00:04:04.420 like both feet in his chair.

00:04:06.540 I go into the room and I'm like 15 feet tall and like bunched in like a 0.99

00:04:13.260 fucking spider. 1.00

00:04:14.320 yeah i can't imagine that right yeah imagine if i was a giant spider i would suck 1.00

00:04:23.220 you want to know a bit that we had in the chat what so you have to come with a walk with me on 0.62

00:04:30.960 this one okay i'm ready so someone said uh hulk hogan right then someone said what about hulk

00:04:40.200 rogan and it's hulk hogan and joe rogan stay with me then i said what about hulk bogan

00:04:49.720 and that is australian hulk hogan and joe rogan right right it was quirky i was having a can of 0.51

00:04:59.760 spaghetti brother and i thought damn an able rape you that's uh hulk bogan good i like it

00:05:11.620 that's about it that's all i can't that's uh bye hey everyone hi bye it's enough man that's enough 0.97

00:05:17.200 aloha so there's a lot of stuff to talk about and all of it's bad really you've been let's just

00:05:27.680 start with this all right have you been seeing what's going on with alexander dugan uh i don't

00:05:34.420 know if you're talking about the same thing but ray sent me a screen cap of a tweet it's made it

00:05:39.860 to ray both drill and ethel were dunking on him i don't know if that's the same thing drill really

00:05:46.900 yeah hold on hold on okay so like everyone's getting in on this i'm gonna forward it to you

00:05:53.220 on on telegram here yeah ray just sent me that i just love i don't like to use the term generational

00:05:59.620 crash out but that's what we're seeing with alexander dugan it's i mean you love to see it

00:06:06.300 i love seeing a guy just walking down the street engulfed in flames yeah you know um he really is

00:06:13.300 a russian peterson like he's he's he honestly i think you expose these people to social media

00:06:19.740 and you find out how much of what they had written was like overly edited like it that was a cool

00:06:25.740 book but it take you took you six years to get it to that stage because when we talk to you live 0.99

00:06:30.140 you're fucking retarded like the uh the other guy the uh you know the the the nothing nothing 1.00

00:06:36.540 human survives the future guy is the same shit nick land like he's just you you get him you get 1.00

00:06:41.620 him live and he's just fucking dumb and yeah it's sad the thing with dugan we'll get into this 0.99

00:06:46.600 actually let's just tell people what we're talking about alexander dugan russian philosopher 0.99

00:06:53.720 we covered his book on the show a long time ago just one of them he's written several books we

00:06:59.640 covered fourth political theory i was not a fan of this book we went into detail why

00:07:06.360 he runs a movement a multi-polarity movement he's anti-imperialist he is unforgivably russian uh

00:07:14.120 very rasputin like and i think that's what a lot of his charisma comes from people look at him and

00:07:19.640 say oh it's like a russian weird russian guy we like having that in the mix right so and i really

00:07:26.520 because most people haven't read his stuff many many years ago we covered the book and i spoke to

00:07:30.760 other fans of dugan in the interim i spoke to multi-polarity advocates we've seen his interviews

00:07:38.440 we've read his articles and so we're initiated to do it so when i saw the following tweets

00:07:48.680 i've seen these before a lot of people are getting hip to do again recently he has these

00:07:55.000 moments where more and more people are exposed to him but i remember him from again many years ago

00:08:01.320 when a lot of people that i knew and a lot of friends other content creators just seemed to

00:08:05.800 to be interviewing him he was coming up in our circles and he was very available i don't know

00:08:11.160 what we would talk about and it seemed that every time i saw him in an interview we got a different

00:08:16.600 dugan he was he took the shape of whatever interview you poured him into he speaks to

00:08:24.120 people that we might know right-wing people and he's he's talking to good guys saying things that

00:08:30.860 you would agree with but then i see him speaking to asians and blacks and he's saying what all 0.97

00:08:37.060 white people should die and so i'm like oh i this is an untrustworthy person he's just tailoring 0.92

00:08:43.980 himself to whoever he's speaking to and then you see him interview debate with nick land he's a 1.00

00:08:51.540 different guy there too he he agrees with everyone is that fucking weird for such a fucking outrageous 0.79

00:08:58.920 controversial guy but you never really see him in a debate like that he's always very agreeable so 0.95

00:09:04.820 i don't trust him so here's the tweets that were making the rounds right so people are saying that

00:09:11.320 he's drunk but i don't know about that um he says the west is totally in fall collapsed still it

00:09:19.580 pretends to be a hegemon let me just share the screen here too still it pretends to be hegemon 0.54

00:09:26.120 ridiculous is a it as vanishing entity it should be destroyed there's no reason for this thrash to

00:09:34.640 exist there's a lot of typos but that's something we're all used to in this space we love typos 0.87

00:09:40.620 he said and he goes on i'll let people see that and they agree with it yes the west has fallen

00:09:46.460 hey

00:09:47.620 death to America 0.99

00:09:49.560 check please 0.98

00:09:54.840 and then he goes 0.94

00:09:56.740 whites they are 0.93

00:09:58.340 I'm going to say this as it was written 0.97

00:10:01.140 whites they are 0.99

00:10:02.920 destroyed the world and themselves 1.00

00:10:05.060 to be white means to be nihilist 0.98

00:10:07.480 it is self-hatred 1.00

00:10:09.460 race which is wild coming from a Russian 1.00

00:10:11.560 mind you

00:10:12.960 a Russian person saying that 0.94

00:10:15.100 anyone else is nihilistic is pretty fucking well but continue on it caused so meany troubles 0.94

00:10:21.400 to he writes how he speaks it's all meany troubles uh to others and to itself it lost the right to 0.91

00:10:28.760 be something no arguments to support their existence and then it builds and it builds and 1.00

00:10:33.600 it goes you are not the people you are stupid slaves on the epstein's menu of cruel cannibal 1.00

00:10:40.660 elites you are eaten your brains are it's it's like reading the first time you see all your 1.00

00:10:48.640 base are belong to us yeah i didn't think i could feel that your brains are what you're you are 0.98

00:10:56.480 eating your brains are okay like we're the you're eating but also your brains are eating thank you 0.99

00:11:01.060 for the clarification it is why you watch euphoria because all of you are perverts 1.00

00:11:07.060 disgusting civilization no reason to exist please die you pretends russia is okay i also love that 0.99

00:11:15.180 all of western civilization is represented by people who watch euphoria which is my understanding 0.99

00:11:21.180 is actually fairly kind of controversial within our own culture isn't it or is that actually a 0.80

00:11:25.680 totally mainstream thing it's like girls like everyone's yeah it's it's just for women and 0.94

00:11:30.780 it's specifically for liberal whore women it's it seems to be for women and gays and nazis from 0.96

00:11:37.860 what i've seen he spends quite a bit of time saying how russian orthodoxy is great oh i love 0.99

00:11:45.560 this because here's within his model anglos are his jews how the far right complains about jews

00:11:55.240 he hates the anglos he doesn't really care about jews not really um sometimes he'll say a thing

00:12:01.360 or two to fit in with the right but he hates specific he sees like the anglos as white and 0.99

00:12:07.600 they must be destroyed because they invented racism now we're just going to enjoy this tweet 0.97

00:12:12.540 right here he says i am more white than almost all of you i am indo-european and proud to be it 0.97

00:12:19.660 you are wrong Aryans 1.00

00:12:21.640 liberal, weak, pervert 1.00

00:12:23.440 you are modern, that kind of 1.00

00:12:25.820 whiteness is shame 1.00

00:12:27.060 real whites 1.00

00:12:30.000 are Iranians, Indians 1.00

00:12:32.080 Evolians, the rest 1.00

00:12:33.820 is a thrash, he says thrash

00:12:35.900 again, okay maybe it's on purpose

00:12:37.480 okay so just, let's

00:12:39.660 set up camp right there 0.56

00:12:41.440 the real whites are me

00:12:43.680 and also India

00:12:44.860 is this my series? 1.00

00:12:47.460 all whites should die 1.00

00:12:48.660 by the way yeah oh yeah you started with all whites should die by the way i am more white 1.00

00:12:54.460 than all of you also whiteness is iranians and indians i'm like okay let's follow that little 1.00

00:13:01.820 little chain there so are you are you indian wicked that's not good what is this like you 0.99

00:13:10.500 just disagree in so many different layers of there i'm like okay sure the whites have destroyed 0.91

00:13:15.880 themselves here's a great one here's what he says we should do be eurasian become greek once more

00:13:23.480 enough with the west it is nothing but failure new beginning study heidegger read guanon uh stop 0.98

00:13:31.620 being what you are it's disgusting so just let me just there's a lot we can say there white should 1.00

00:13:38.140 die he is whiter than anyone else whites are iranians and indians the west should fall europe 0.99

00:13:46.960 is the west also but the europe should fall read french philosophers read german philosophers 0.96

00:13:54.680 do you ever like wake up or do uh like do something you're just like what the fuck is going on

00:14:01.540 because so i want to get your read on this but let me just 0.73

00:14:08.340 stay here um because i i'm not trying to big ourselves up here we've been calling alexander 0.96

00:14:16.660 dugan a dumb asshole for a long time now for a long time now and so people are just getting hip 0.74

00:14:24.040 to him as i said and that's why i didn't think this was so big because i've seen this exact 1.00

00:14:30.700 same thing before from him and so i was looking around like oh first time is it the first time 0.99

00:14:37.120 you've seen dugan say that all whites should fucking die and specifically that blacks and 1.00

00:14:43.160 browns should kill them because he's also said that you're an indian you're an indian and then 1.00

00:14:49.380 there's still there's still people who are defending this guy because it would be one thing 1.00

00:14:56.060 if he was just if he was just a raving lunatic i might even forgive it because that would be

00:15:03.020 funny and interesting but he also is not compelling as a speaker and does not have 0.91

00:15:10.020 an original idea in his head from what i've seen and he's just an odd liar so i'm like i don't know

00:15:16.620 there's a lot of different guys to be fans of there's so many guys out there big channels big

00:15:23.560 big ideas this is just this doesn't work as propaganda it would be propaganda what he was

00:15:30.180 doing before was propaganda where he was trying to slither his way into the space and subvert it 0.98

00:15:36.040 and now he's just saying we should all die yeah and fucking now progressives and libs are dunking 0.98

00:15:42.800 on him this this strange old man anyway so what what do you what do you think about all this yeah 0.99

00:15:48.800 yeah same i mean i i agree with people he probably is drunk but regardless you're

00:15:52.780 it's like long-term social media exposure uh is not safe for these people these people that

00:15:59.720 came up through politics and uh you know traditional media who the sort of people who

00:16:07.000 are they they've cultivated a persona they've cultivated a like a like a reputation but as

00:16:13.780 you said you get them in different interviews and he just shifts to fit the form of you know

00:16:19.540 whoever he's talking to because he's not actually i don't think he's actually a serious philosopher

00:16:24.200 and i've i've heard some of the interviews that you're that you're uh referencing where he will

00:16:29.000 contradict himself like you know three days apart on two different interviews about two different

00:16:33.440 subjects because he is just a he's a media creature right and he's a political creature he 0.97

00:16:38.800 exists he's kind of like a uh edge case of a yes man anyways he's not a fucking serious person he's 0.99

00:16:44.660 a fucking clown and i love long-term media exposure or social media exposure because you get 0.99

00:16:49.320 eventually you're gonna get him late on a wednesday when he's drunk and he's gonna do 1.00

00:16:54.800 this dumb shit and destroy that carefully curated reputation okay i'll say this we're looking at a 0.99

00:17:01.220 photo of him right now of you know staged photograph this is not a fat man but he has 1.00

00:17:07.920 very fat hands do you see that yeah what is up diabetes with those sausage links is it diabetes

00:17:15.960 it's probably diabetes i don't know you're just me i don't know what diabetes looks like i don't

00:17:21.340 have diabetes can i be honest i don't know what diabetes is something to do with uh sugar it has

00:17:28.200 to do with people who have had too much sugar and are too fat get diabetes pretty sure it's just

00:17:35.720 americans but then the solution is your blood sugar can't drop below a certain level so you

00:17:41.720 need to keep being fat that doesn't sound right yeah i never got it does anyone know what this is

00:17:48.460 it sounds like a way for fat people to remain eating a very specific amount of sugar what i

00:17:54.580 what i know about diabetes is one time my father-in-law saw a sale at costco but he can't

00:18:00.900 really read english very well and so he bought like 20 bags of cookies because they were only

00:18:05.460 like 90 cents a bag or something and then anyways they were by the way it's costco so those would

00:18:10.140 be big bags already huge bags he's bought like 10 kilos of these diabetic cookies and we're all

00:18:16.540 eating them and just puking them up and they're so bad and just laughing he's got a mountain of

00:18:22.080 cookies he's eating them he's puking them up what are you gonna do you're gonna let him go to waste 0.98

00:18:27.380 which is such an old man and also young woman thing to think like every single woman any 1.00

00:18:33.760 girlfriend type bitch will say that use too many paper towels and i'm not gonna waste anything ever 0.99

00:18:40.960 it's like okay i'm just gonna be puking and shitting yep for the next year try to stop me 1.00

00:18:46.300 go for it for this curse you have descended upon this family in search of a deal 0.98

00:18:52.680 in search of something that was just so fucking easy peasy anyway so that's what i'm about doing 0.74

00:19:00.820 i just there's a lot of people who are bringing like what what do we what do you think of this 0.97

00:19:05.500 i'm like yeah he hates white people he wants you dead but even within this like i get like he's 0.87

00:19:10.480 trying to make a couple of different points from a few different angles but the actual 1.00

00:19:13.960 fucking words that he's using are contradictory he goes from you people are white and you're 1.00

00:19:19.260 horrible and you're dying and also you should die also i am white the true white the good whites and 1.00

00:19:25.000 actually we're the best it's not coherent man the true whites are indians you don't deserve respect 1.00

00:19:32.220 i'm you know you don't reserve deserve respect come on at this stage in the game maybe five six 1.00

00:19:40.040 years ago you could be one of these guys talking about the yuga cycle you could be talking about

00:19:46.520 you know they're actually the indo-europeans or the original arians and if you think about it

00:19:51.220 they're the real heirs i i don't want to hear it i've heard it i've heard it all the reason i

00:19:57.120 decoupled from a lot of stuff and i just treat like a buffet i'm gonna i'm gonna pick what i

00:20:02.160 like you know that whole esoteric sphere i like the hyperborea research i'm a big advocate of

00:20:10.500 atlantis i'm an atlantis guy yeah that one's fun but agartha has almost no grounding whatsoever

00:20:18.520 it's pretty much made up people will mention those two in the same breath atlantis and agartha

00:20:23.460 agartha is just it's like a thing that was in a book one time and maybe dinosaurs lived there

00:20:28.380 hyperborea there's a strong case to be made for hyperborea we went into all this on the show many

00:20:33.680 many episodes ago so i'm on board with all that but once you start saying you know what and this 1.00

00:20:38.660 goes right into the yuga cycle no i'm not fuck that fuck that shit fuck all your perennialist 1.00

00:20:44.960 reincarnation shiva nonsense i can do without that i don't need that don't try and smuggle that in 1.00

00:20:52.680 with all this shit i don't care what renee how much fucking renee jenon likes the baghda vita 0.99

00:20:58.280 not the baghda vita i got i got the bible and then i got some pull quotes from the quran 0.99

00:21:05.820 if i'm feeling if i'm feeling spicy if i'm feeling a little slutty just as a and again

00:21:11.280 like the the whole cali i get all the memes right i haven't read the books i get the memes

00:21:15.340 but i mean my uh layman's understanding of indian history is it's not really there we

00:21:23.640 anglos went over the past 150 years and loosely reconstructed some of it out of the mud but it's 0.73

00:21:30.600 not the same thing as our fucking mythology and our history you know what i mean like even hint 0.98

00:21:34.920 treating hinduism as a religion it's not a fucking religion it's like 900 different warring clans 0.99

00:21:41.040 with some random bullshit, which for all 1.00

00:21:43.000 we know, they made up the afternoon before 1.00

00:21:44.800 time. Why is it every time I see a

00:21:46.960 video of something Hindu going on,

00:21:48.880 it looks like it was scribbled together

00:21:50.880 five minutes before? Because it was!

00:21:53.080 So, like, for all we know, the 0.99

00:21:54.800 Kali Yuga shit, as fun as it is, 1.00

00:21:58.120 was made by 1.00

00:21:58.980 a brown man in 1850

00:22:00.960 to get his wife off his back. 0.99

00:22:02.900 Yeah, which is pretty 0.92

00:22:04.960 cool as far as faiths go, by the

00:22:06.940 way. Anything that's made 0.98

00:22:08.800 for lying to your wife, 0.99

00:22:10.480 true i'll allow it back on board back on board i am in favor of any race that lies to their wives 0.95

00:22:18.300 so jot that down um we have to be speaking of which

00:22:23.980 okay now i know you've heard about this one you heard about this kerfuffle over at jp morgan

00:22:32.420 with that guy who lied about what's what's what's your retelling of the story you said

00:22:38.180 like you kind of heard it what do you i i guess the dude claimed that the woman had like

00:22:45.780 uh bully sexually harassed him like oh oh yeah oh yeah but it was it was quite lurid yeah it was

00:22:55.700 a man let me take you through this how i discovered this story comes across my desk

00:23:01.300 comes across everyone's feed all we have is names there's no pictures yet we hear the story jp 0.91

00:23:07.860 morgan chase man is suing his former boss because he was made into a sex slave whoa

00:23:14.100 okay all right what we got going this tickles a lot of men's fancies 1.00

00:23:21.520 there's a few too many guys who are into girl boss muscle mommy dom shit you know what i mean 1.00

00:23:32.020 like the idea that oh the boss like she she made me your sex slave against my will and i'm going 1.00

00:23:37.960 like there's guys who are just into that sexually so i think a lot of guys are interested oh that 0.99

00:23:45.240 happens it's like being raped by your young teacher in high school but you're both adults 0.68

00:23:51.740 and like around the same age that's what they're thinking so everyone's by the way everyone's a 0.99

00:23:57.620 pedophile is what i'm told these days um even this if you're into this you're a pedophile 0.76

00:24:03.600 he's too this indian man who looks now that i'm looking at him now is how i would cast an indian 0.85

00:24:11.920 mr bean he has a really weird face he's got a face made for physical comedy this looks like

00:24:19.140 it was made in like uh made in like an early 90s graphical program like i can see his face

00:24:25.380 on the front of like a command and conquer or something oh yeah yes

00:24:28.580 he absolutely it's not a real face i tell you people indian eyes british mouth

00:24:37.780 yeah he's doing he's doing the british mouth yeah who taught him that

00:24:42.580 imagine this guy going for a little rumpy pumpy

00:24:46.560 eyebrow his his brow is up but his eyebrows are not moving just an odd architecture of the skull

00:24:55.360 anyway so i hear about this just names hear the story and he's telling tales about how

00:25:03.500 he was powerless her sexual wiles and say he's saying that she was threatening that he couldn't 0.95

00:25:11.540 get a promotion if she didn't sleep with him she's begging him for sex threaten him for sex 0.99

00:25:17.340 putting viagra in his drink if you can believe it right all these pranks sex pranks 0.99

00:25:25.220 and you're in the middle of the day

00:25:27.600 on a Thursday even

00:25:29.940 and then

00:25:31.600 everyone's passing that around

00:25:33.680 and then I notice the names

00:25:36.000 notice his name

00:25:38.320 that's an Indian name

00:25:40.940 I look at her 0.75

00:25:44.000 her picture was kind of circling around

00:25:45.760 but not his

00:25:46.280 white woman 0.92

00:25:47.640 nothing going on in her face 1.00

00:25:50.940 you're telling me a white woman 1.00

00:25:53.360 was predating 0.99

00:25:55.940 on an Indian 0.90

00:25:57.580 subordinate and he first of all

00:25:59.640 he was saying no

00:26:00.680 that's the most unbelievable

00:26:03.920 part of this story right from

00:26:05.820 the jump no didn't happen I'll tell you

00:26:07.720 right now and I was

00:26:09.240 highly disappointed

00:26:11.020 that people clued into this so

00:26:13.760 fast because I'm like we're going to mention

00:26:15.740 this on the next episode we're going to be

00:26:17.720 litigating this the whole time within

00:26:19.680 a day within 24 hours and I was like

00:26:21.620 not it's made up but liberals progressives nazis far right whatever like everyone's like yeah no

00:26:28.820 no there's i don't care what your political persuasion is there's no world for this type 1.00

00:26:35.300 a personality white woman is going after like a middling indian or any indian really but also 0.99

00:26:43.300 the stories that he's telling oh of my own telling that he's putting viagra in the drinks

00:26:49.940 and you're thinking about it they're working at jp morgan they're she's surrounded all day

00:26:59.060 by six foot three alpha chads who are putting viagra in their own drinks

00:27:07.700 they're they're roofing each other in the room do you know what these boys get up to

00:27:13.380 you haven't seen horseplay like this these guys are good to go these guys are operating at a level

00:27:21.480 of sexual madness that you and i would it's not couldn't even comprehend it's not wall street

00:27:28.760 though man it's jp morgan jp morgan that's a big that's a that's a bank though right yeah but i 1.00

00:27:36.040 wouldn't their office be a bunch of like weird quants like this fucking guy maybe you're thinking 0.98

00:27:42.060 of like Wolf of Wall Street. 1.00

00:27:44.240 I am thinking of Wolf of Wall Street 0.99

00:27:45.800 and I'm thinking of every fucking movie 0.99

00:27:48.060 I've seen. This is a huge over-regulated 0.99

00:27:50.620 commercial bank.

00:27:52.680 It is probably mostly

00:27:54.000 guys that look like him in that office

00:27:55.820 or women or brown women. 1.00

00:27:58.640 Damn, I bet. 1.00

00:28:00.580 I bet, yeah. 1.00

00:28:01.940 I'm going to suck. 1.00

00:28:03.980 Because I bet you would get into that hoping that 0.99

00:28:06.020 it's like the Wolf of Wall Street, right?

00:28:07.700 No one's doing cocaine now.

00:28:10.280 Not a lick of tequila. 1.00

00:28:12.060 in the spot there's no there's no one crying in the stalls except women that's just what they do 1.00

00:28:18.540 if you've ever worked in an office i'm telling you right now you can put your ear up to the 0.97

00:28:24.900 woman's bathroom you'll hear a woman bawling her eyes out in there and you should and you

00:28:29.320 should be caught doing it let them know you're listening let them know you care let them know

00:28:36.340 you're around

00:28:37.540 don't

00:28:40.560 sound like you're about to say

00:28:42.700 I'm here to help but just stop at I'm here

00:28:44.820 slowly tapping on the other

00:28:48.860 side of the door I'm here

00:28:50.200 no it's a bit like I'm here

00:28:52.880 I'm here 0.95

00:28:55.600 say it in a way it sounds like you're foreign 1.00

00:29:00.900 and deaf 1.00

00:29:01.600 so that was the story

00:29:04.980 that we got very quickly resolved but it developed don't you love this story though

00:29:11.880 what's your what do you what's the judasic where are you at so far with this uh

00:29:17.800 i just i mean i just think it's it's funny because on the one hand it was initially like

00:29:25.160 a reverse me too thing like oh we can get back at the women so that's why a lot of guys liked it

00:29:29.900 too well you know what it was it's like like normie con boomer con type guys like oh see is

00:29:35.000 you know how do you feel with the roles reversed and then it turns out it's all a fraud because 0.98

00:29:40.820 it's a fucking weird indian guy with a fetish it's like how we we got you yeah and that's why 0.99

00:29:47.960 they got this like see we're molested too i'm like why do you want that i can tell from your tone 0.99

00:29:53.300 that you're waiting for this and say like look was i molested no but i could have been because

00:29:59.040 of this and then that turns out to be fake so i'm sure it happens i don't think guys care very much

00:30:06.960 and that's just the way of the world i don't know what we can say about it you can start a campaign

00:30:12.080 against it but if this was real and the guy was white everyone say hot dog you remember what the

00:30:20.000 lie he was telling because he was fabricating the threats that she was making and of course 0.94

00:30:26.800 they came from a diseased indian mind so one of the like the famous line was i think this guy must

00:30:36.560 have an asian wife the chinese korean japanese i don't know but because because this came from his 0.87

00:30:44.640 head what he had claimed she said was i bet your fish head asian wife doesn't have cannons like

00:30:51.200 these referring to her breasts and i've never heard of a woman referred to her breasts as cannons 0.94

00:30:58.320 no that sounds like something an indian guy would come up with but hold the fort he just insulted 1.00

00:31:04.480 his own damn ass wife and now the global media is talking about if you told me that she didn't 0.99

00:31:12.560 exist that'd be one thing but i desperately hope that she exists and has to deal with this 1.00

00:31:17.120 it would be funny though if his wife's not asian well because i'm thinking like she you need to be 0.98

00:31:24.460 a specific type of asian for that to work no but no what if his wife is black or black or or like

00:31:29.740 indian but he's in his mind he's thinking oh we're all asian now we're all we're all aged so he

00:31:35.080 thinks that what you would say to insult a japanese person you could say to a bangladeshi

00:31:40.100 that might be how his mind's working

00:31:43.220 like calling

00:31:45.220 his wife a slope

00:31:46.440 and of course and I'm looking at this

00:31:51.140 woman this dignified

00:31:53.140 when she'd know the difference

00:31:55.280 I think she 0.99

00:31:57.100 knows her way around a slur too 0.99

00:31:58.820 you know what I mean

00:32:00.660 I just I see

00:32:02.260 I see her having a 1.00

00:32:04.680 couple whines 0.99

00:32:06.640 too many too fast 0.99

00:32:08.460 too early in the evening i bet she's letting loose yeah and i bet she's popping an ambient too 0.99

00:32:14.080 i bet it's a roller coaster with her i bet it would be a sexual roller coaster with her and 0.99

00:32:19.600 he was the only one that wasn't invited what a what a ghoulish skull this man has very tall head 0.98

00:32:28.320 yeah it's all wrong but a dignified chin let me just say there's so much we can talk about the

00:32:34.340 story this is further evidence that these peoples cannot coexist these civilizations cannot coexist

00:32:41.460 because i've been scanning social media i've been looking everywhere i've not found a single

00:32:48.060 indian person hell a single brown person who has said this man is embarrassing us we don't 0.53

00:32:54.720 co-sign him we denounce him throw him to the dogs which is what we would do and some say that works 0.99

00:33:00.700 toward disservice. Some people say that's what makes

00:33:03.340 us great. We let our losers 0.95

00:33:05.480 lie where they fall. 0.99

00:33:07.780 If you heard that there's a white guy

00:33:09.380 who did this, said that

00:33:11.320 in that order, and he got discovered,

00:33:13.360 I'd say, good, rake him over the coals.

00:33:15.620 That's a very 0.98

00:33:16.540 dorky, embarrassing thing to do. 0.99

00:33:19.100 We're going to clown on you. 1.00

00:33:20.960 We're going to laugh at you. 0.97

00:33:22.680 We've done that to our own people. No one here

00:33:24.840 is defending Chris Cantwell.

00:33:27.040 Yeah. Can you imagine? Like if Chris

00:33:28.780 can't we're brown and with brown people they would say he deserves 20 million dollars of 1.00

00:33:33.300 taxpayer money for no reason but no we want to make an example of these motherfuckers like let 0.99

00:33:38.600 them fail and let's tell their story to the children so they avoid it but like all i'm seeing 0.99

00:33:45.920 from indians is showing his picture and saying wow he's got some aura actually now that i see him 1.00

00:33:52.800 he's he's kind of like a chad because he's kind of tall right i'm like no this we're not gonna work 0.99

00:33:59.880 out you can it's just like with blacks like the according to black people there's no such thing 0.51

00:34:06.060 as a black criminal you know i mean there's if if you had heard that a white kid was doing what 0.97

00:34:12.980 these black kids do which is wheeling on their bmx's weaving in between you know people on the 0.99

00:34:19.120 sidewalk and and they got on camera too that's the new stunt they're doing if you're that guy 0.99

00:34:23.880 got clotheslined by a cop and snapped his spine in half and he was in traction for the rest of his

00:34:29.980 life we would say well that's what you get hey i don't even like cops but bless that cop 1.00

00:34:36.240 you know i mean fuck that kid good be broken be in a wheelchair have your organs not work 1.00

00:34:42.840 that's what you get for acting a fool that's what you get that's what you get for inconveniencing 1.00

00:34:47.800 our seniors. That's why we 0.99

00:34:49.860 want to slaughter anyone who's doing the 1.00

00:34:51.700 knockout game. But these people don't care about that 0.97

00:34:53.740 shit. It doesn't mean anything 1.00

00:34:55.640 to them. Civilization doesn't mean

00:34:57.880 anything to them. They don't have these

00:34:59.580 values or concerns, and they won't.

00:35:01.580 They can't even make fun of 1.00

00:35:03.760 a dork who lied about being raped. 1.00

00:35:06.820 The story 1.00

00:35:07.600 developed somewhat, because after

00:35:09.760 this all came out,

00:35:11.620 my sense is he felt

00:35:13.740 he had to double down.

00:35:15.560 He can't just disappear. He still wants

00:35:17.720 to have a career maybe you can lie your way through it who hasn't been in that position before

00:35:23.020 so um he's got two witnesses that say they saw this woman kissing this guy two more witnesses

00:35:32.920 show up in the jp morgan sex abuse case um against uh between chamber and her name isn't very much

00:35:41.180 good either by the way she looks like she has an indian name it's not indian i don't think but 1.00

00:35:46.480 unless she married an Indian guy 0.99

00:35:49.800 Lorna Hajdini

00:35:51.480 Lorna Hajdini 0.97

00:35:53.620 do you think she married an Indian guy 0.98

00:35:55.160 Arabic maybe

00:35:57.260 Hajdini 1.00

00:35:58.040 and that's why he did all this 0.97

00:36:00.980 jealous

00:36:03.580 of the other Indian man 1.00

00:36:05.020 she's down to roll around in the shit 1.00

00:36:06.960 that's what he's thinking 1.00

00:36:08.640 Rana's friend

00:36:11.740 stated in the document that he was

00:36:13.420 woken up by Hajdini in the middle of the night

00:36:15.380 the waitress the witness also mentioned that a completely naked hajini woke him while he was

00:36:20.940 sleeping on the couch so so rana rana is the bull the man so rana just bought a couple of his indian

00:36:29.700 friends and family out to say no i saw that not only did i see it let me explain to you the scene 0.98

00:36:35.960 she comes out naked and she wants to immediately have sex with him while i'm around and she says 0.99

00:36:43.060 come back to my room with me and he goes no no i can't which is manga shit guys guys that's what 1.00

00:36:51.060 happens in anime this is what happens when a guy who watches too much anime starts trying to write 0.96

00:36:55.700 his own romance you know anything like like yeah like a shinji type thing yeah like oh no all these 1.00

00:37:02.220 women want sex with me i'm going insane uh i hope they don't just take me by the hand and just have 1.00

00:37:08.220 their way with me. 1.00

00:37:09.420 I want your baby mama. 1.00

00:37:11.060 They've been smelling like pork chops. 1.00

00:37:12.400 They've been smelling like oxtails.

00:37:14.000 Ship's gonna set sail.

00:37:15.400 Lamborghini yacht and I'm pushing V12.

00:37:18.120 Lilac lightning. 1.00

00:37:19.380 Shit's in God frightening. 1.00

00:37:20.760 Codeine cake with Versace berry icing. 1.00

00:37:23.360 The ex-banker Shirei Urana was referred for mental health treatment after probe into sex

00:37:30.080 slave claims, found nothing.

00:37:32.320 So just that's the end of the story.

00:37:34.120 They keep looking into it and they keep saying, yep, there's nothing.

00:37:38.220 there's nothing not not a lick of evidence oh your cousin was there your cousin was at the

00:37:43.340 work retreat why oh that's an obvious lie so um i don't know if that i don't know if any of this

00:37:50.120 is illegal you you think that they would throw in prison because they would try and clamp down

00:37:57.240 on a on a reverse me too and we don't want men to say things like this yeah i would have liked

00:38:04.000 I'd like to see one woman get Me Too'd though

00:38:06.780 because it's all going away. 0.89

00:38:08.700 Me Too's over, right? 0.80

00:38:09.980 It would have been nice to slip one in

00:38:12.740 before the clock runs out.

00:38:15.500 Like Oprah.

00:38:16.620 Let's get Oprah.

00:38:20.800 Just like savagely 1.00

00:38:22.520 raping one of her male interns. 1.00

00:38:24.740 Yeah, just 0.88

00:38:25.360 gorilla style.

00:38:28.520 Gorilla style! 1.00

00:38:30.140 She's a wide... 1.00

00:38:31.280 You fucking harambe'd a white intern? 1.00

00:38:33.360 no 1.00

00:38:34.060 we have the power of AI

00:38:38.220 we have the power of AI

00:38:40.080 just take the Harambee video and make that Oprah

00:38:42.000 look

00:38:45.860 the guy who pulled that trigger

00:38:48.680 is going to remember that for the rest of his life

00:38:50.740 that was a no win scenario

00:38:52.720 the man who shot Oprah

00:38:54.040 the man who shot Oprah because she was about to have

00:38:56.900 her way with the intern

00:38:58.380 thank god he was at his post in 0.99

00:39:00.780 Oprah's house 1.00

00:39:01.620 she's got snipers in her own fucking house 1.00

00:39:05.740 want to see something that'll 1.00

00:39:08.820 that'll enrage you

00:39:10.840 alright what do you got

00:39:12.000 this is from the CBC

00:39:14.480 court defers deportation of truck drivers

00:39:17.860 who caused fatal

00:39:19.680 Humboldt Broncos bus crash

00:39:21.900 so people don't

00:39:23.880 recall we did mention this on the show

00:39:25.560 but there was

00:39:27.380 a I don't like that they call

00:39:29.980 it a fatal bus crash here's what happened there was a bus filled with a youth sports team so they

00:39:39.320 said it was a collision what happened was there's a bus driving normally legally and a truck driven

00:39:46.120 by an Indian went barreling towards them and couldn't stop and I mean and just killed what

00:39:51.500 this 16 players and staff and injured 13 others Sidhu a rookie Calgary truck driver ran a stop

00:40:00.780 sign and drove into the path of a bus carrying the Saskatchewan junior hockey league team at a

00:40:06.460 rural intersection in Saskatchewan in 2018. As he faces deportation Deskirit Sidhu and his wife

00:40:14.380 tanvir man treasure their family time it just haunts me kind of nobody wants to be separated

00:40:22.540 from their family you know it's a nightmare and we can't even imagine like the life without him

00:40:28.620 but that's like a bus crash both you know where do you draw the line both were at fault

00:40:34.060 if you've ever heard of an a car crash or an indian's involved you know absolutely

00:40:39.020 he caused it and so this guy he was scheduled to be deported on a and board a plane for india early

00:40:48.140 monday morning however in a decision after a hearing on friday federal court justice jocelyn

00:40:54.540 gagney granted a temporary deferral pending the outcome of an earlier federal court case when

00:40:59.660 challenged uh the canada board security agency's decision not to delay his deportation his lawyer

00:41:05.100 said it could be several months before a decision is made he pleaded guilty by the way he pleaded

00:41:10.700 guilty he did it um he was on march 22nd he was sentenced to eight years in prison

00:41:19.660 eight years for that for being just a guy who was here for a few months

00:41:27.500 didn't even really speak the language from what i understand um he's got a lawyer he's got an

00:41:33.180 the immigration you got to read the rest of that sentence though they're kid gloving and says this

00:41:36.620 is the longest sentence in canadian history for a crime that didn't involve alcohol drugs or

00:41:41.980 purposeful behavior so there's they're inserting that to say like it was an accident you guys he 0.97

00:41:48.600 didn't mean to it wasn't a purposeful decision that he made i mean it fucking was because he 0.58

00:41:56.020 saw the sign a mile up the perfectly flat straight road and he just floored it so yeah it was actually 0.99

00:42:03.920 a purposeful fucking decision right he should be he should be publicly executed if alcohol 0.97

00:42:11.380 or drugs are not involved then everything's a purposeful decision you can only make an argument 0.99

00:42:19.880 that you're inhibited because of drugs or alcohol anything else is you have complete ownership over

00:42:27.220 that no no but i think they're trying to say like oh but it was an accident it was like you know it

00:42:32.100 was a really weird blind intersection and it was snowy and it was hard to see and she was in his

00:42:37.280 blind spot no it wasn't it was it was clear there it was there were no weather issues it was perfectly

00:42:44.160 flat it was a clear intersection there was a big sign there was a flashing light and you blatantly

00:42:49.860 blew right through it at full speed it was a 100 your fault and it like i don't know like if you're

00:42:57.260 driving wrong way on the 401 and you get somebody killed is that not purposeful behavior that's what

00:43:02.980 this is i would also say it's purposeful behavior if it's a blizzard and it's icy and you're right

00:43:09.280 even going the speed limit true you know i mean like doing the speed limit in icy snowy conditions 0.97

00:43:14.340 and you get in an accident yeah you that's your own fucking fault you did that intentionally 0.98

00:43:19.200 because you fucking know better and that's why even when i was driving with my family and there 0.99

00:43:24.560 was a really really bad blizzard that was just starting it did cross my mind like i i assume 0.99

00:43:29.280 full ownership of this situation if my family and i end up dead it's not the snow's fault because i 0.88

00:43:36.880 did choose to take us out in this weather no one's no one's forcing me to fucking do it anyway 0.82

00:43:42.160 it's it sounds semantical but like you would point out these are weasel words where it's like 0.95

00:43:48.400 Like, they love portraying Indians.

00:43:50.920 Like, if you see the image of him that they chose,

00:43:53.000 look how sorrowful he is as he walks out of court,

00:43:56.680 his eyes cast down towards the ground.

00:44:00.700 But if you look at those eyes, I can see there's nothing there.

00:44:04.580 I can see his mouth is still hanging open agape. 0.99

00:44:08.940 Like, this is a dunce. 1.00

00:44:11.640 This is a man of very low IQ. 1.00

00:44:14.680 That's why he was in Canada driving a truck. 0.74

00:44:18.880 that's why he was driving a truck and didn't know how to drive a truck right so like you're

00:44:24.560 trying to say like oh he's he just wanted to live a better life no he didn't i deny them even that

00:44:32.480 i don't think they're able to apprehend ideas that consciously just say like i yearn for freedom

00:44:40.000 that that's never entered his mind he's a parasite someone took him by the hand and said go over

00:44:47.200 there there's free there's free free things and went okay and then they said go to this school

00:44:53.600 we'll teach you how to drive a truck and then give you a license in a week and went okay like it's 0.98

00:44:59.360 there's no story you gotta understand with these mass migrants whatever you call them like there's 1.00

00:45:04.720 nothing you can understand about them they don't desire a better life what the desire is to eat 1.00

00:45:11.200 and get free things and lie that's it that's that's it that's it and then they kill people

00:45:15.920 he can't even lie in court he's like yeah i did it i did it oh i have to go home like he was about

00:45:20.980 to be deported so he killed all these people it's like okay go home he's like okay but that's it

00:45:27.380 that's the story like i just i want him run over with a bus why is that not justice and that's a 0.76

00:45:33.720 type of justice his people would understand he comes from a country where it's like okay if you 0.92

00:45:38.920 if you shoot an elephant and the elephant gets to shoot you and if they don't they could just

00:45:44.180 to make some up, just like their religion.

00:45:46.140 Yeah, they don't have things

00:45:48.200 written down. They don't have constitutions.

00:45:51.060 Hinduism is a vibe. 1.00

00:45:53.960 Their law is a vibe.

00:45:56.640 I saw a documentary

00:45:58.120 that shows

00:45:59.660 the level of pollution

00:46:01.920 in the Ganges. We've all heard about how the

00:46:03.920 Ganges is polluted, right?

00:46:05.980 Their sacred river, their holy river.

00:46:08.740 But

00:46:09.240 there's video of just

00:46:11.160 giant sewer pipes 0.98

00:46:14.020 just pumping liquid shit into it 1.00

00:46:17.100 24 hours a day 1.00

00:46:19.160 7 days a week

00:46:20.100 and there's like a hundred of them

00:46:22.880 all along the Ganges

00:46:23.720 I don't know why I thought it would be

00:46:27.120 something different, you're actually just pumping

00:46:28.700 massive amounts of 0.99

00:46:31.040 liquefied shit into this thing 0.99

00:46:32.580 and have been for decades 1.00

00:46:34.100 it's pure shit, there's nothing but 1.00

00:46:36.920 shit in here 1.00

00:46:37.920 and that's where this guy comes from 1.00

00:46:40.680 it's a river of shit 1.00

00:46:41.760 it's a river of shit 1.00

00:46:43.120 and that that's going into the ocean at some point what's the ocean going to do with that 0.99

00:46:48.820 so yeah this is what i hear about and i'm reaching with this but i want to lead into this i want this

00:46:57.580 is where i really want to get your perspective have you heard about this thing called the carny

00:47:03.240 pivot the carny pivot i can imagine what that is but i've never heard the phrase before well

00:47:09.440 Well, okay, so I'll just go into it really, really quickly.

00:47:14.240 This was put forward by a friend of mine named Kruptos and Black Horse, who I believe I've had him on the show before.

00:47:24.160 I've been on Kruptos' show before, and for a while, leading up to the election of Mark Carney, they said there's going to be a pivot once he's elected.

00:47:32.880 and uh what that's going to mean is they're going to see a rollback of the woke stuff the dei stuff

00:47:39.460 but most importantly an assertion of canadian sovereignty and that carney represents a shift

00:47:47.080 in politics as such in canada and i'll just put use his own words um and i say this because

00:47:55.440 this was causing some controversy lately and they'll tell you the same thing that a lot of

00:48:00.420 People have disagreed with them on that.

00:48:02.680 I know John Carter, a good friend

00:48:04.380 John Carter was complaining about this.

00:48:06.520 Like a lot of people are just jumping on this.

00:48:09.380 And

00:48:09.540 well, let's see what it says in his words.

00:48:12.480 He says, the pivot is a prediction

00:48:14.320 made by me and the Black Horse

00:48:16.120 back in late 2024

00:48:17.720 after seeing reports coming out in various

00:48:20.500 elite publications and

00:48:22.160 think tank white papers.

00:48:23.980 We had a prediction, always risky, that

00:48:26.220 basically laid out the Carney agenda. 0.96

00:48:29.020 Draw down immigration

00:48:30.300 numbers pivot away from net zero to resource exploitation that would be you know resource

00:48:36.860 extraction in canada not just the oil sands but there's all kinds of other we've talked about

00:48:41.340 this on the show before undiscovered i think you would point out like natural gas that's really

00:48:46.940 just untapped in canada uh those are the two big things um he says now people our guys want more

00:48:54.780 radical change but within the realm of what's achievable within the current political context

00:48:59.860 Carney's executed a substantial policy pivot for the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:49:04.880 He says, here's an example of the pivot.

00:49:06.640 The pivot continues.

00:49:08.980 And this is Croftus saying this.

00:49:10.300 He's pointing to a tweet by Mark Carney, who's saying, Canada has what the world wants.

00:49:14.980 The Canada Investment Summit will help catalyze billions of new investments right here at home.

00:49:20.340 So he's just launching a summit, an investment summit.

00:49:23.640 And he says, that means more opportunity for Canadian businesses and more high-paying careers.

00:49:30.400 It's from the Globe and Mail, what he's saying.

00:49:32.520 Canada hosts September summit in Toronto to help draw billions in foreign investments.

00:49:37.260 So all I'm asking you, does that sound like a pivot?

00:49:42.680 I'm trying to ask this in a non-adversarial way because everyone involved in this I know and I like.

00:49:48.960 but to me this is just oh canada is having a big summit to look for foreign investment

00:49:54.520 and someone here in the comments said that hey justin trudeau had canada investment

00:49:59.120 summit in 2017 and it went nowhere you know what i mean yeah like they this has been tried before

00:50:06.320 well i mean without without talking about the pivot itself i agree with the commenter like

00:50:12.880 no summit is going to change investment in canada this that's this is just pork for you and your

00:50:20.020 friends to go have fun and have drinks the reason we don't have investment in canada is we have a

00:50:25.260 bad investment environment it's due to regulations and taxes and the labor market and all kinds of

00:50:29.520 things which aren't you you're not actually changing so this it's dumb yeah yeah so essentially

00:50:37.660 like i don't see how this was is pivoting anything this is just i mean this is not even 0.95

00:50:42.200 partisan this is just a another stupid thing that all governments do and so i i see that and then 0.72

00:50:48.980 i'm looking at disclose.tv here but it's referencing a news release from the government 0.96

00:50:54.580 it says um justin carney administration fast tracks permanent residency for 33 000 foreign

00:51:01.800 workers and the title of the actual piece here it's from immigration refugees and citizenship

00:51:06.900 canada this is a press release from the government filling labor gaps in smaller communities by

00:51:12.720 accelerating permanent residence for 33 000 workers now what's 33 000 people right well

00:51:20.380 it's not zero that sounds like a lot and it's targeting smaller communities i don't see a pivot

00:51:28.820 i know i'm just i would love there to be because what we had said when uh mark carney was

00:51:36.680 elected was everyone makes fun of Trudeau correctly, but we had said, I know some people 0.87

00:51:43.600 disagree with this, but I had said, we are lucky with Trudeau because he's so openly inept. It would 0.96

00:51:49.180 be far worse if we had a serious political operator, someone who knew what they were doing

00:51:55.080 and really knew how to lie. And to me, that's Mark Carney. He knows how to offer us enough red

00:52:01.840 meet every so often he'll say phrases like heritage canadian right whenever he wants to

00:52:08.840 get our people on his side pay attention to this at some point in the next year or so i bet he's

00:52:15.280 going to need something to pull some strategy out of a hat and if he needs to get the right on his

00:52:22.360 side he'll start saying that uh we were too hard on old sir john a mcdonald all those statues that

00:52:30.700 they took down Sir John A. McDowell. They're in

00:52:32.700 storage. None of those were melted down

00:52:34.960 or destroyed. They're warehousing

00:52:36.920 them for such an occasion

00:52:38.920 when they need to roll them back out

00:52:40.840 again and say, Woke is

00:52:42.720 over. Look who brought Sir John A.

00:52:44.900 back. It's Mark Carney.

00:52:47.080 Right? Whenever he needs something.

00:52:48.560 He knows how to do that and how many of us

00:52:50.520 will be on his side. It's a

00:52:52.240 good gesture. I wouldn't

00:52:54.420 hate to see it, but I know what it is.

00:52:57.280 This guy, when he says

00:52:58.340 Heritage Canadian this, or

00:53:00.560 he might even say old stock canadian ones or he's standing up against america with to america which

00:53:06.660 he should if you want to operate as a country okay like i get all that but we're talking about

00:53:14.360 whether he's pivoting away from what trudeau might all i'm really seeing is energy maybe

00:53:23.340 this project will make canada the first g7 country to have a small modular nuclear reactor

00:53:30.180 He singled out this build as one of five big infrastructure projects central to his promise.

00:53:36.940 Reliable, affordable, clean power to 300,000 homes while sustaining 3,700 jobs every year over the next 65 years.

00:53:48.800 yeah but he won't and i think that's that's kind of i think one one thing to examine is

00:53:55.640 do we mean pivot in terms of real action and change or do we mean pivot just in terms of

00:54:03.360 politics and messaging and like the wrapping of you know what i mean like is even like the

00:54:09.760 canada strong thing and the anti-trump stuff on the one hand that's extremely liberal and it's

00:54:15.520 you know it's reactionary towards towards conservative politics but at the other hand

00:54:21.060 it's very nationalist like it's it's it's dressed up as being nationalist so it's it's a pivot in

00:54:27.320 the sense that he's now wrapping it in nationalism instead of kumbaya socialism but it's not a pivot

00:54:35.420 in the sense that he's doing literally the same thing trudeau is doing like the actual policy

00:54:40.800 like for example he's talking about how they've um they've reduced their they're keeping the

00:54:45.660 deficit below where trudeau had it but then the cmhc is insuring loans worth like 50 60 billion

00:54:54.120 and they have the canada strong fund which is where like what almost like over 100 billion

00:54:58.120 and then they have the new infest investment fund which is over 100 billion none of that goes on the 0.95

00:55:03.100 balance sheet because they're calling it investment except that it's not fucking investment because 0.73

00:55:07.640 you don't have the money you're borrowing money so like this is not the point is is they're still 0.99

00:55:13.680 doing insane record levels of bullshit deficit spending and it's all you know corrupt pork 0.99

00:55:21.180 barrel insider bullshit the exact same as trudeau but carney is way smarter about wrapping it 1.00

00:55:28.360 trudeau was a clown carney isn't a clown but he is doing exactly the same thing that trudeau was 0.99

00:55:34.640 doing yeah uh trudeau would scream the quiet part and that's why he was never taken seriously on the 0.89

00:55:40.520 world stage and never granted power but carney knows what he's doing we don't like where he

00:55:45.380 comes from but he's not all he's there's no reality where he's our guy based guy who's trying

00:55:55.020 to just play power politics right and uh you know i remember corruptos i was talking to him about

00:56:01.060 this in a group chat and we're actually

00:56:03.080 in agreement over a lot of this because

00:56:04.760 I really wasn't paying too much attention

00:56:07.000 to the pivot thing but I was catching up and I

00:56:09.000 said he was saying that

00:56:11.060 it's good that Carney

00:56:12.980 is initiating

00:56:14.620 more trade relations with

00:56:17.160 Europe okay

00:56:18.640 and I say yeah I mean as a negotiation

00:56:20.980 that just as a statement is

00:56:22.720 that's a fair statement but then the context

00:56:24.980 of that is what's important yeah and also

00:56:26.820 me saying like that's as good as a

00:56:28.880 negotiation tactic but

00:56:30.820 there's no reality 0.95

00:56:33.560 where we replace America

00:56:35.300 with Europe. No. We say it's

00:56:37.240 great to have better trade with Europe

00:56:39.260 in the sense that it's great to have better trade

00:56:41.520 with everybody all the time.

00:56:43.720 But if you're saying, hey,

00:56:45.120 we're better trade with Europe and therefore

00:56:47.420 we don't need the states anymore, 1.00

00:56:49.200 just fucking go home, bud. 1.00

00:56:50.860 Because people 1.00

00:56:52.820 can say that Europe could decouple

00:56:55.480 from America. Yeah, sure.

00:56:57.640 The European Union,

00:56:59.200 perhaps yeah but Europe isn't in anywhere it's not the situation it's apples and oranges that's

00:57:04.660 what I'm saying I'm saying like Europe could but there's there's no conceivable path forward just

00:57:11.140 strictly geographically and that might sound reductive to people but I'm saying we're literally

00:57:16.580 right beside America it doesn't make any sense I'm not saying this against you want to talk about

00:57:21.620 you want to talk about trade without geography yeah that's not fair to say oh you you oh you 0.90

00:57:28.540 want to include geography and trade that's reductive fuck off that like they're related

00:57:33.780 it's very crucial we've talked about this before there's so much overlap population wise within

00:57:39.320 our business sectors i don't think there i don't think there's a way within a hundred years to

00:57:45.240 decouple from america right just because there's so many americans that work over here there's so

00:57:49.620 many canadians work over there with the most poorest border in the world investments are so

00:57:53.520 intertangled guys geography does not affect international trade and that's why closing the

00:58:00.040 strait of hormuz has not affected oil or fertilizer prices at all it's been fine asia they're fine

00:58:06.420 europe they're fine nobody's trying to build new pipelines or transport shit over road it doesn't

00:58:11.340 matter because it's just numbers on it's just numbers in an excel page guys geography isn't 0.99

00:58:16.700 real yeah and let me just say you know we're kind of diverging from things that corruptos and black

00:58:23.480 horse claimed of course because i spoke to him in there he's agreements like yeah i don't think

00:58:27.080 there's any reason like way forward with you i'm like okay so let's just have an accord here and

00:58:33.080 say that this is all just negotiation tactic for trump but then but then what is the pivot i suppose

00:58:39.220 like i just haven't seen really any reason to be that optimistic it's not i don't think it's because

00:58:45.180 i'm just too radical i don't think it's because i'm too demanding i'm just highly sensitive to

00:58:51.680 lies that sounds like a george carlin thing to say you know i i speak two languages english and

00:58:58.660 bullshit you're being very generous but also he's got the trans kid and they'll say well that's petty 0.92

00:59:05.400 that doesn't matter well it does matter i really do think it doesn't matter look how this guy runs 0.99

00:59:10.340 his family i don't know i know that you're you're making things up this isn't actually what crop

00:59:15.560 doser black horse said but but if anybody if anybody came and said oh when you say well he 0.98

00:59:20.780 is the fucking bankster with the trans kid if somebody who's who says somebody who says oh 0.99

00:59:27.720 that's petty these are not people who are worth reading because i look at all this and i say 0.99

00:59:33.360 all i'm seeing from anyone in power is just a slight adjustment on the rhetoric like they're

00:59:39.140 just saying and it is like packaging it is all rhetoric it doesn't mean anything it's just it's

00:59:45.160 all nudging the cattle one direction or another and if you're paying that much attention to it

00:59:50.200 you're the cattle you're the one being nudged the reason he's saying this is so that people

00:59:55.980 like you will move in that direction like there's also a gradient to radicalism whereas you can get

01:00:04.840 denounced as being too radical or you're being unfair because you think these people are 0.96

01:00:09.060 insufficiently radical but it's not like we're asking for every Jew in Canada to be shot in the

01:00:15.000 back of the head we're not asking for like every woman to be chained in the kitchen our radicalism

01:00:20.560 the most radical thing people are advocating for is remigration and remigration as a public policy

01:00:29.100 is pretty reasonable and i think anything less than that is untrustworthy because

01:00:36.600 all remigration says is okay you people have admitted they brought too many people in

01:00:42.780 i've heard that from liberal ministers and mps we overshot it and i said okay you admit you are

01:00:49.720 wrong what are you going to do about it the easiest thing to do would be to send them back

01:00:54.820 reverse the flow even with just the new one just prove that you can do it and if you can't do that

01:01:01.700 anything less than that if you want to say you're on our side but that's not the start of the

01:01:06.020 conversation then I don't trust that you're on our side at all I don't trust that you're based 0.99

01:01:09.840 I don't trust that you're Machiavellian I don't trust any of that shit because this is the most 0.99

01:01:14.560 reasonable solution to a problem they admit that they caused so if they're not going to go with 0.99

01:01:20.580 that then they're not interested in solving the problem that means they don't think there is a 0.56

01:01:24.800 problem which means they're my fucking enemy right so until mark carney decides to really engage or 0.97

01:01:31.840 speak the name of re-migration that he's a fucking enemy i don't think he's doing anything other than 0.98

01:01:38.480 laundering the same and i i think it works on people and we know how it's going to work on 0.93

01:01:43.760 people we know he's going to throw some red meat to people then and get them on side and that's

01:01:48.320 going to be it that's going to be it for the next 20 years unless the conservatives run somewhere

01:01:54.240 else and they won't you would also they're looking at seriously and while not giving a

01:02:00.600 show remigration looking at cbc again ottawa very seriously considering age restrictions

01:02:06.960 for social media and ai chatbots so i'm honestly i'm okay with that to be i don't mean i don't

01:02:13.940 really care you'd say that now because here's here's how it starts so sorry sorry sorry i

01:02:21.560 should say i'm not okay with it legislated because i know the method of legislation means you're you

01:02:29.920 never get what you're for example like i i'm okay in principle with gun laws but i don't actually

01:02:36.300 want gun laws i just think that we need there's there's a way in society to restrict guns so that

01:02:42.700 kids are safe but there's never going to be an actual law that saves kids and likewise you're

01:02:47.140 ever going to have an actual law around ai and social media that protects kids it's just going

01:02:52.420 to be password locks for every fucking adult and you have to use your driver's license to post on

01:02:57.660 x that's what it's going to be and that's what's been rolled out in some countries in europe i 0.95

01:03:03.160 think yeah here's an article from the globe and mail here's how it starts it says online harms

01:03:07.920 bill not the right vehicle to bring in age verification to access pornography says minister

01:03:14.700 um and this would have been when was this published not long ago i think i think it was in

01:03:20.460 april um it says canadian for the people who don't live in canada we have something called

01:03:27.500 a canadian identity minister so mark miller we've seen this guy before he says canada is unlikely

01:03:34.860 to follow britain's example and include age checks to prevent children from accessing pornography

01:03:40.700 websites in its forthcoming online harms bill so he's saying look we like this law that prohibits

01:03:46.960 kids from accessing pornography this isn't the bill to roll it out but it is coming so but it

01:03:52.320 starts with pornography you don't want kids accessing pornography or these chat rooms or

01:03:57.560 whatever that's how it gets there and then now it's restrict age restrictions on social media

01:04:03.900 and ai chatbots that's the article we just said here the federal heritage minister says government

01:04:09.440 is very seriously considering whether

01:04:11.500 to restrict young Canadians' access to

01:04:13.560 social media platforms and artificial

01:04:15.680 intelligence chatbots, but it hasn't

01:04:17.620 reached a decision yet.

01:04:19.160 We have some work to do.

01:04:21.460 One urge, the minister's portfolio includes

01:04:23.600 online safety, was reacted to two

01:04:25.380 non-binding resolutions

01:04:27.220 Liberal Party members passed at their policy

01:04:29.460 convention the weekend in Montreal.

01:04:31.880 So people who don't understand politics,

01:04:33.620 this is just the cockamamie

01:04:35.760 hoodoo that they get up to. They just

01:04:37.480 have conventions and then

01:04:38.740 pass fake laws

01:04:40.840 just to see if they can

01:04:43.100 I guess. So we're thinking about

01:04:45.060 proposing a proposal for a law

01:04:46.980 based on a law we

01:04:49.100 gamed out at our

01:04:51.240 convention. Why don't you

01:04:53.020 just get drunk and have 0.95

01:04:54.520 affairs? What are you doing?

01:04:57.980 Going to a convention

01:04:59.180 center in Ottawa. It's like, let's play

01:05:00.960 politics. No, cheat.

01:05:04.640 Overdose.

01:05:06.200 That's the way people went to

01:05:07.180 these things.

01:05:08.740 Now, I came across this other thread here,

01:05:13.500 and this relates to what we're talking about.

01:05:15.120 It's all related to the Mark Carney,

01:05:16.820 so this is what the government is really pursuing.

01:05:19.680 I don't see a pivot on this.

01:05:22.340 I would like to see, even if Mark Carney had

01:05:25.240 a libertarian banker's history,

01:05:28.140 because he worked for the Bank of England.

01:05:32.000 But it's full steam ahead with all this,

01:05:35.160 regardless of who's in charge.

01:05:36.940 I'm looking at a Reddit thread,

01:05:38.740 On Linux, r slash Linux, the title is, I traced two billion, this is in America.

01:05:46.740 We were in Canada, now we're in America.

01:05:48.480 But he says, I traced two billion in nonprofit grants and 45 states of lobbying records to figure out who's behind the age verification bills.

01:05:57.740 The answer involves a company that profits from your data, writing laws that collect more of it.

01:06:03.220 And there's been many bills, IRS 900 filings, Senate lobbying disclosures, state ethics databases is what they're pursuing.

01:06:12.860 What the bills require you to hang over is the first heading.

01:06:15.980 It says, most reporting these bills says something vague like age checks at device setup.

01:06:20.220 For example, California AB1043 signed October 2025 and effective January 1st, 2027 defines operating system provider as a person or entity that develops licenses or controls the operating system.

01:06:35.840 So every OS provider must then provide an interface at account setup, collecting a birth date or age, and expose a real-time API that broadcasts the user's age bracket to any application running on the system.

01:06:50.220 So every app on your device gets to query a system-level API that returns your age bracket in real time.

01:06:58.120 This isn't age verification at the point of accessing restricted content.

01:07:02.380 This is persistent age broadcasting service baked into the operating system itself.

01:07:08.460 New York's S8102A goes further.

01:07:12.840 It requires device manufacturers to perform commercially reasonable and technically feasible age assurance at device activation.

01:07:21.380 The AG picks the approved methods.

01:07:24.140 That means biometric age estimation or government ID verification before you can use a device that you purchased.

01:07:32.540 So to me, like I look at what's going on in Canada and I see what's this is what is happening in America,

01:07:38.620 not across the entire country but in certain states or certain cities and what's interesting

01:07:44.320 is it's done in a different way every single time they can tailor it to the state what level and and

01:07:50.700 how severe is the age of verification but this is where the government is going that our government 0.82

01:07:57.860 looks at that and says we can't wait to do that in the uk they can't fucking wait to i'm amazed

01:08:03.740 they don't have in 10 times this already given you know the security panopticon they have over 0.98

01:08:09.500 there but it starts off as porn it starts off at you know the canadian identity minister saying

01:08:16.860 well you know we just want to protect kids it's like no you no you don't i see what your race 0.99

01:08:22.300 does your bureaucratic race you're all the fucking same i see how you do in the uk i see how you do 0.98

01:08:27.380 in america this is where you're going you want me to have to use my id to use a phone and good luck 0.98

01:08:33.220 not using a phone because i'm not using a smartphone everyone says they want to not use

01:08:37.140 a smartphone okay but for those people who live in the real world and they got to do real things

01:08:42.100 like they're going to make you do that and then they're going to make it so you can't buy flip

01:08:46.340 phones anymore you you know how easy that's going to be real fucking easy they're just

01:08:53.620 passed along and says no you have to have us that's the only phone that's going to be allowed

01:08:57.220 to be sold at a certain point because it's only going to be weirdos who use flip phones anyway

01:09:01.620 weirdos like us yep i've got three but all of the real people they use smartphones and then

01:09:09.040 who's going to come defend people like us and say no we can't have those phones anymore everyone

01:09:12.840 needs to have an iphone or a samsung galaxy to vote and that's and that's it to vote to drink

01:09:20.840 water you want to drink water you better have a smartphone and then people say oh so what it's

01:09:26.740 just age verification well keep in mind they've lied to you up until this point i don't get these

01:09:33.020 people who say okay they lied to me six times but that's probably the last one right i'm always on

01:09:38.680 the same thing but this is why democracy never works this is why democracy is a bad system 0.99

01:09:44.200 it's this exact shit because it doesn't matter that you and i can figure this out and have 0.99

01:09:49.160 figured it out for a long time your sister and your mom and my parents and your neighbors and 0.99

01:09:54.800 my neighbors will never figure this out and the more you tell them about it the more frustrated

01:09:58.880 and angry they get so there's no way out of this that involves voting or finding the correct oh

01:10:05.340 maybe if carny will pivot maybe he'll do something no it's a democratic government the system is what

01:10:10.600 it does and it's built to rape you i could talk all day about how carny is better than trudeau

01:10:17.380 but it's like talking about the weather like you it don't act as though by talking about this you 0.93

01:10:23.600 somehow it's like a uh magic words and you somehow have control over it now like in in

01:10:29.280 understanding it you can stop it or you can alter its course you know it does feel like it feels

01:10:34.220 like we're looking at the weather but we're looking at clouds it's you and me laying on

01:10:39.560 our backs in the grass bright day smiles on our faces saying that one looks like a shark

01:10:46.040 that one looks like a rocket ship

01:10:48.420 and we laugh

01:10:49.640 that's politics

01:10:50.780 this guy looks bass

01:10:54.180 this guy looks cringe

01:10:55.720 yes

01:10:59.420 and you know

01:11:00.940 if we had a cloud we wouldn't even know what to do with it

01:11:04.780 true

01:11:07.060 let me go a bit deeper into this post

01:11:10.440 very interesting stuff

01:11:12.260 so it's the dark money network

01:11:14.180 is what we're talking about right now

01:11:16.020 so he found the places that are funding these he said this is the finding that connects the two

01:11:22.200 things i've been tracking separately hilltop public solutions a democratic consulting firm

01:11:27.580 shows up in three distinct contexts uh there's a 45 million bipartisan super PAC run by meta

01:11:36.280 which is the company that owns facebook um meta's colorado lobbying runs through headwaters

01:11:44.680 strategies, paid $338,000 since 2019, with monthly payments jumping to around $5K a month.

01:11:51.980 It goes into this headwater group.

01:11:55.340 Meta's own Horizon OS already has Meta account age verification.

01:12:00.920 So it seems like Meta is at the center of this.

01:12:03.960 Meta fights bills that regulate Meta.

01:12:07.040 Meta watches bills that regulate everyone else.

01:12:09.680 In California, Meta spent over $1 million on state lobbying in the first three quarters of 2025, and publicly supported AB1043, breaking ranks with its own trade associations.

01:12:22.820 Meta supported a bill that creates surveillance infrastructure at the OS level while leaving social media platforms untouched.

01:12:31.120 So that's interesting.

01:12:32.580 We don't want to be in charge of age verification on our site.

01:12:37.540 we want you to do age verification on every single phone that's kind of what's that's their interest

01:12:45.480 in it like and that would make it easier for us why because we at meta have a massive problem

01:12:53.680 with child pornography and child predation and we covered that a long time ago that there was that

01:13:00.180 guy who worked at content reviewing for meta because anytime there's a report on a type of

01:13:08.220 content let's say it's child pornography gore whatever it is a lot of the time it goes in front

01:13:14.000 of a person they just look at it and see what it is and he did that he's like you have no idea how

01:13:20.120 many facebook groups facebook groups are still largely unregulated you can get away with anything

01:13:25.500 in there he's like yeah there's they're full of child rapists and they don't know what to do about

01:13:29.720 it and they don't know what to do about really any of it even though they they're a trillion

01:13:35.480 dollar company so they're saying okay we're going to lobby for the government to fix this for us

01:13:40.080 because we don't know what to do we we can't have children on this platform because there's too many

01:13:44.740 of them talking to the rapists we can't do anything about the rapists can we do something

01:13:49.640 about the children that's what they're saying in this instance but what why does meta fund an

01:13:57.840 advocacy group with no legal existence in the irs system to push legislation that creates new data

01:14:02.860 collection infrastructure at a layer below meta's own products while meta faces zero new requirements

01:14:09.400 he asks uh is the if the goal is child safety why regulate the operating system which had no direct

01:14:15.800 contact with children instead of social media platforms where the documented harm occurs so

01:14:21.960 yeah that's basically it

01:14:24.300 it's the platforms that are pushing this

01:14:26.580 but also I tend to think

01:14:28.500 it's an overall trend because

01:14:30.400 why would they

01:14:31.820 not try to increase

01:14:34.420 control in the name of security

01:14:36.520 sometimes that makes sense

01:14:38.680 but they're going to do it in every

01:14:40.460 instance that they can

01:14:42.200 and this is just the one

01:14:44.520 where every

01:14:45.660 I'm not saying this is a conspiracy

01:14:48.320 I'm not saying that

01:14:50.620 we should stop doing what we're doing but i think they are trying to sap the energy

01:14:57.440 from the anti-peto movement because i don't know if you've noticed everyone's calling everyone a

01:15:04.420 pedophile like everyone's a pedophile right now i think i think the way that that works is

01:15:11.560 it's like a by state like there's a uh an equilibrium right where you need people to 0.96

01:15:17.260 hate pedophiles enough that um converting people into pedophiles is still good compromise but you

01:15:26.740 can't have people hate pedophiles so much that we just start hunting them and we're going in the

01:15:32.580 direction of hunting them so they got to push the rock back up the hill to the other side a little

01:15:36.120 bit um and then they'll have to roll it back again when it swings the other way but yeah absolutely

01:15:42.500 yeah it's it's like if some people would see that and say oh that's why all this anti-pedophile

01:15:50.940 moralism has sprung up i'm like no i think that's that's organic i think that just happened because 0.99

01:15:57.840 we saw what was going on with all the muslims and the trannies and all the 0.99

01:16:03.380 fucking epstein stuff you know i mean like it is something that's happening so people will see 1.00

01:16:09.560 doesn't say no we must turn away if you don't want to be spied on we should not buy into the 0.99

01:16:15.760 child sex abuse hysteria i'm like no no no no triple down on the hysteria be more we need to

01:16:22.280 be more hysterical because it's extra because it's worse than you think um we are going to um

01:16:30.680 uh sorry i'm just reading something here okay um we're gonna get into that in a couple episodes

01:16:37.500 not this episode we have a really interesting book that i want to cover but i finally got around

01:16:43.080 to reading that book by whitney webb it was um one nation under blackmail volumes one and two

01:16:49.880 and it's all about epstein it's the most comprehensive overview of the epstein case

01:16:57.080 that i've ever seen because it's not just epstein it goes into jelaine maxwell goes in her father

01:17:02.980 robber maxwell this goes back to the 30s and the 40s and i'm going to say this at the time when i

01:17:09.220 review too but it's so much worse than you've been led to believe and so much more jewish

01:17:18.180 like who is surprised he's because everyone says oh epstein was jewish yeah yeah of course

01:17:24.560 i'm sure there's some jews involved like no no no there's so many layers like benai barith is in

01:17:30.600 this Mossad's involved in this like there's going back to the 40s going back to you know 0.63

01:17:35.580 Robert Maxwell immigrating here and immediately joining like these Jew organizations like like 0.87

01:17:43.460 there's I didn't know Whitney Webb was built like that I didn't know that and she's doing big 0.68

01:17:49.140 podcast tours right now like to talk about this is a pretty anti-semitic book but it's it's told

01:17:54.480 in a very straightforward way but i'm like oh you cannot it's it's it's way more worse and way more 0.87

01:18:00.800 jewish that's what i'll say but then you see stuff like that and then you're saying you know 1.00

01:18:06.620 what pivot you're saying like who's really in charge of any of this who's really pushing this

01:18:11.280 i don't know i just i feel like i'm along for the ride like you said i feel like we're looking at

01:18:16.700 clouds and saying what

01:18:18.880 shames we see

01:18:19.820 you know democracy

01:18:21.940 democracy is fake but then

01:18:24.620 you choose the fake

01:18:27.020 because once that curtain

01:18:28.800 is pulled away it's so much more

01:18:30.960 malevolent than you could have ever 1.00

01:18:32.840 imagined it's stupider 1.00

01:18:34.860 but also more evil and also 1.00

01:18:36.900 more cunning it's

01:18:37.960 it's like so many different brains

01:18:41.160 and matrices

01:18:42.880 smashed together

01:18:44.100 you can barely

01:18:46.940 gaze upon the shape

01:18:48.880 of how corrupt this is

01:18:51.420 and how many

01:18:53.140 nefarious interests are involved

01:18:55.660 then you're like

01:18:57.080 maybe I would

01:18:59.620 choose democracy because at least that's a lie

01:19:01.460 that makes sense, whatever this is

01:19:03.860 doesn't even make sense anymore

01:19:06.000 I need

01:19:07.720 the facade of democracy

01:19:09.960 to make sense of why

01:19:11.840 Trump

01:19:12.400 went through his second or third assassination attempt and he doesn't seem that concerned with

01:19:19.380 it you know he's like he got shot in the head allegedly yeah and then they caught him and yet

01:19:27.480 there have been no antifa antifa arrests or raids because ever in either of his terms but he's all

01:19:34.780 almost been assassinated four times like i'm looking at him like i think he's in on it at

01:19:39.080 this point, honestly. There's no way to look at it where he's not, because now it's just

01:19:44.580 preposterous. The U.S. Justice Department has added another charge against the man accused

01:19:51.020 of trying to assassinate President Donald Trump at the White House correspondent's dinner last

01:19:56.500 month. The charge, which alleged that 31-year-old Cole Allen used a weapon to assault. Now you have

01:20:04.040 to ask does he want to be shot because they keep trying and almost getting away with it they keep 0.78

01:20:09.720 getting pretty fucking close and then he changes nothing and he knows who's doing it but he doesn't 0.94

01:20:16.840 care so i'm like okay i don't know what this is anymore either you have a death wish or there's 0.96

01:20:22.480 something else going on but we're not treating the network of assassins the way i thought we

01:20:29.360 would be treated as, especially you,

01:20:31.980 Mr. Talks

01:20:33.240 Tough on Crime, right?

01:20:35.440 It's like, oh, so you're not,

01:20:36.940 oh man, you're not real either?

01:20:39.180 None of this is

01:20:40.400 treated as a real thing, so either

01:20:42.840 the attempts are fake,

01:20:45.000 I'm open to that, or

01:20:47.000 they're being used for something else.

01:20:49.660 But I'm like, at some point 0.87

01:20:51.100 you're going to get shot in the face, and no 0.97

01:20:53.080 one's going to care. 0.99

01:20:56.020 You're the boy

01:20:57.020 who cried

01:20:58.340 i'm getting shot at and then uh i guess that doesn't work because he was so in that story

01:21:06.220 it'd be like the boy who cried wolf but he kept getting bitten by wolves and people

01:21:09.440 said um well stop stop wearing your salami pants it's the boy who cried this is fine

01:21:16.640 everything's fine it's the boy who cried this is fine everything is fine

01:21:20.540 all right so moving on we're gonna start in on the book i'd like to discuss

01:21:29.860 very quickly but i wanted to just mention a couple bits of show news

01:21:34.560 so for this edition of copranos society at the end of this episode we have my appearance on the

01:21:42.220 jay burden show i went here's what's funny i went on that show he graciously invited me on

01:21:48.040 and i was supposed to talk about the documentary of how to make a canadian people which is available

01:21:53.940 on youtube rumble and x the sequel to paving over the public went on there didn't mention it once

01:22:02.120 what yeah what did we were just so i went what are you doing i went on a second time and that's

01:22:09.680 coming out next week um but the first time because here's what happened uh i'm used to doing

01:22:16.000 interviews the way i do them and they've been done in the past where you say it's going to be

01:22:20.360 an hour i tell people it will go for around an hour and an hour and change and then we end up

01:22:25.280 doing an hour 45 and just because we get in the flow of it so i went into it jb cuts it at an

01:22:31.260 hour it's 60 minutes yeah i i did i forgot that so i'm like i got an hour and a half so we got

01:22:35.920 to the hour mark and i hadn't started i'm like okay i'm loose i'm warmed up he's like i'll see

01:22:42.160 you later he's like we're coming up on time now i said oh no oh heavens we were we were just talking

01:22:49.420 about how much i don't like robert de niro as an actor we're just talking it was very very fun i

01:22:54.700 loved it but there was a second one that we recorded and that's going to be coming out next

01:22:59.600 week we're actually do talk about the film and have a couple more interviews coming up about that

01:23:04.960 some some places we've never been before that i'm really excited to go on uh what else people want

01:23:12.620 to find us on x at legally ironic is where to find me we also have an instagram account

01:23:19.320 at blood satellite find us on instagram find us on tiktok it's at blood satellite on there too

01:23:26.620 we're on a lot of platforms that i've just never mentioned before on here so now you know

01:23:31.860 so this book

01:23:34.880 I read recently

01:23:36.860 I really like it

01:23:38.660 and it's a

01:23:40.900 theory or a

01:23:43.060 thesis that's pretty easy

01:23:44.920 to explain

01:23:45.720 this is all concerning the arc that we're on right

01:23:48.900 now about

01:23:49.920 covert

01:23:52.340 conflicts it's about

01:23:54.460 government conspiracies

01:23:56.260 it's about spy craft

01:23:58.000 really it's about all the things that go on

01:24:00.500 behind the scenes of international politics which pertains to what we were just talking about not

01:24:04.960 long ago but i got this book titled secret wars covert conflict in international politics by

01:24:12.680 austin carson i really liked it and um if i can summarize it pretty quickly here he i'm just

01:24:24.060 gonna find it right here hold on so history he he heard the term theater of war before he usually

01:24:32.040 means like a new front opening up in a war you know it's just where the war takes place in the

01:24:39.040 territory he takes that very literally here he says let's consider the fear of war as an actual

01:24:45.440 theater there's the international conflict that you see and he includes you know the korean war

01:24:51.800 vietnam you can include the war in ukraine there's what the public sees but that's the front of the

01:24:58.040 stage right then there's backstage what goes on backstage well that's where all the spy should

01:25:03.720 happen because that's the the entire cold war had a big backstage to it that's where diplomatic

01:25:09.960 negotiations happen but it's also where actual armed conflict happens there's a lot of engagements

01:25:17.400 that never make it to the news

01:25:19.880 and they're only disclosed much, much later.

01:25:23.900 And he gives an example here

01:25:26.920 that really stuck out to me.

01:25:28.540 He said,

01:25:29.200 in the early 1990s,

01:25:31.500 interviews with Soviet veterans

01:25:33.140 and newly opened archives

01:25:34.580 verified that Soviet pilots

01:25:36.320 covertly participated in air-to-air combat

01:25:39.360 with American pilots

01:25:40.440 during the Korean War for two years.

01:25:43.000 About a decade later,

01:25:44.080 declassification of 1300 american intelligence documents confirmed an even more striking fact

01:25:50.180 u.s intelligence agencies knew about the operation one intelligence review from 1952 a full year

01:25:56.540 before the end of the war estimated that 25 000 to 30 000 soviet military personnel were physically

01:26:03.780 involved in the korean war now this is a war where there's it wasn't supposed to be a hot war

01:26:10.980 between america and the soviet union and that was the whole idea behind vietnam the korean war that

01:26:16.040 these are proxy wars we're not we're not actually having a hot war with the soviets but he was

01:26:22.360 saying that no there was that the entire time they just didn't really talk about it so there's

01:26:27.960 almost like an entire secret war happening and just like you know you're not at war with certain

01:26:34.540 countries but behind the scenes you're spying on each other you're stealing documents you're

01:26:39.480 assassinating each other you're blowing up ships sometimes and you're just lying to the public

01:26:44.800 about it and how much of the war takes place backstage and is that where the real war is

01:26:51.200 taking place and the play that you're seeing is just it's something that they don't fully control

01:26:58.320 he makes the point like if it was up to a lot of these people all war would be done backstage

01:27:02.300 because public war is messy public war you lose control of that and you lose control of the public

01:27:07.760 opinion but a lot of these guys they're like let's just let's just have a war that nobody knows about

01:27:13.360 like yeah i mean that's i think how wars might have been like wars used to be a lot smaller scale

01:27:19.120 and used to be with mercenaries and stuff but maybe you kind of had wars that peasants didn't

01:27:23.520 know about unless they were drafted in them but you just kind of hear that there might be a war

01:27:28.240 going on but it didn't really affect you maybe um he goes on he says since world war one large

01:27:35.440 scale escalation of war has become unacceptably costly yet leader control of the escalation

01:27:42.720 process has been simultaneously weakened while a range of factors influences while a range of

01:27:48.720 factors influence the escalation potential war my theory focuses on two specific escalation control

01:27:55.280 protocols it lays out a chronological narrative that is it's not just a set of independent case

01:28:01.120 studies, rather, I argue that governments essentially responded to the escalation

01:28:06.080 damages that were displayed in World War I by developing and experimenting with

01:28:10.600 new ways of using military force. And so you see in the interwar period in the

01:28:14.940 20s and the 30s, governments getting involved in war without declaring it, or

01:28:20.000 getting involved in war using volunteers, which are actually centrally controlled

01:28:23.440 by their military, and experimenting with covert ways of intervening. That's the

01:28:28.120 Spanish Civil War. That's one of the cases I look at. And then over the course of the Cold War,

01:28:32.000 starting with the Korean War and ending with the Afghanistan occupation at the end of the Cold War,

01:28:36.180 you see a real refinement of these techniques, where at a series of iterated clashes or theaters,

01:28:42.900 the United States, the Soviet Union, the Chinese, to a large extent, use these tools and start to

01:28:48.080 learn, oh, okay, I see, this is a way for us to compete and to engage in limited conflicts 0.93

01:28:52.700 while keeping them relatively under control.

01:28:54.820 One is the constraints created by domestic hawks and misunderstandings among adversaries about the value of limited war.

01:29:04.840 He says, my theory claims that backstaging military intervention allows rival leaders to insulate themselves from one another from domestic hawkish constraints.

01:29:14.880 Industrialized warfare is ruinous to cautious and reckless states alike.

01:29:19.580 so he

01:29:21.860 frames it this way where it's like

01:29:23.500 you've got the leaders who

01:29:25.760 may very well dislike each other

01:29:27.760 but you've got this whole strata

01:29:29.760 of other leaders around them

01:29:31.540 these are your generals

01:29:33.340 and then this is the press

01:29:35.740 these are the military

01:29:37.640 ordinance companies, whatever, there's all these

01:29:39.660 organizations that are

01:29:41.660 invested in the war and if

01:29:43.740 they get wind that you're in war

01:29:45.540 then they're going to agitate for more war

01:29:47.840 they want to go harder they want to go faster they want to draw it out and you might not want

01:29:51.740 that at all you might want this resolved quickly maybe both leaders want it resolved quickly

01:29:56.040 because they didn't really control about how it started but there's forces within your own

01:30:01.300 government and once the public learns about it now patriotism is involved now hatred of the

01:30:08.800 enemies involved now it's now people are talking about nukes now you have your own people and your

01:30:15.400 own inner circle seeing you as weak if you don't go even farther you know and go and and both sides

01:30:22.100 get involved in that sort of escalation and that's what they're trying to avoid this whole idea is

01:30:27.760 that there's forces in every international conflict they're actually trying to constrain

01:30:33.060 the inevitability of inevitability of escalation and nuclear weapons is partly to blame for that 0.73

01:30:40.600 but also chemical weapons also everything right no one wants to get into a messy situation where 0.93

01:30:46.600 it's just two huge armies running at each other because everyone's got civilizational ptsd from

01:30:53.240 world war one and world war ii and they're going to go to great lengths to avoid that

01:30:58.760 up to and including having secret wars but you can only make them so secret right until because

01:31:05.400 as liberal as people want to say they are look what you've been seeing from people about the war

01:31:13.040 in ukraine have you seen what your you know bleed hard liberals are saying we should do to the

01:31:19.560 russians i know that that i mean every day and i can't understand how you go from anti-war to 0.65

01:31:27.480 we should crucify every civilian you're thinking that we wouldn't do that our civilization would

01:31:34.060 do that these people get bloodthirsty really fast you know and then before the war fatigue sets in 0.98

01:31:41.460 there i remember not long ago they're talking about nuking russia just regular people you

01:31:46.300 think that doesn't matter but it does matter you can reach a critical mass of that where now

01:31:51.060 your government loses legitimacy and we have a different type of government than russia or china

01:31:57.400 that's what's interesting about it so if donald trump is perceived as weak

01:32:03.220 i don't think that really hurts america because america has such robust and powerful institutions

01:32:12.140 right that can that's the deep state right that's the department of transportation that's the cia 0.93

01:32:18.700 like they don't really give a shit who's president but if xi jinping is perceived as weak that's a 0.97

01:32:24.440 big fucking problem any i don't want to say authoritarian but these countries where it 0.99

01:32:30.920 hinges more on their particular leader americans kind of get used to just cycling their guy out 0.99

01:32:38.920 you know and that causes some problems as well but like you're dealing with countries that their

01:32:46.040 leader really really can't be perceived as weak or humiliated and so they're willing to go to

01:32:53.240 extreme lengths not to be perceived that way and so yeah that's war can come easier than you think

01:33:00.760 with places like that so he says the covert sphere is more than a venue for rivals to deceive and

01:33:07.960 outmaneuver each other during a war the backstage is also a segregated space that can help major

01:33:13.560 powers even adversaries manipulate perceptions and control the escalation risks of war the book also

01:33:21.080 shows that the domestic policies that shape secrecy decisions are complex rather than the

01:33:26.820 evasion of anti-war mass mobilization to initiate and maintain intervention i demonstrate that

01:33:33.060 secrecy is alluring to democratic leaders seeking to insulate themselves from the hawkish reactions

01:33:39.240 of their circles he says in reality escalation is not dichotomous wars can vary along a nearly

01:33:47.780 infinite spectrum herman kahn famously identified dozens of stepwise escalations in the context of

01:33:54.820 the cold war to build a theory however this infinite variety must be simplified to uh

01:34:01.220 theoretically important forms of escalation um he says large-scale escalation is distinguished

01:34:07.460 from lesser forms like newly targeting civilians or cities or the act of military intervention

01:34:13.220 itself limited war is an ongoing intra or interstate conflict in which violence is used

01:34:19.380 within a relatively fixed scope like escalation limited war can be defined in different ways

01:34:24.860 is still context dependent and can be redefined over time yet all limits must serve what shelling

01:34:32.480 calls salient thresholds salient thresholds are implicit or explicit rules about who uses violence

01:34:39.560 where it is used, and how it is used.

01:34:43.220 And oftentimes there's an agreement to look the other way.

01:34:45.480 An example of this that came out with some of the WikiLeaks cables

01:34:48.220 that were leaked about 10 years ago

01:34:49.700 was that the U.S. was engaging in drone strikes, I believe it was, in Yemen.

01:34:53.900 And they had acquired the actually explicit consent

01:34:57.380 that Yemen would claim credit as if it was their military operation

01:35:01.400 as a way for them to not look like they had outsourced

01:35:04.780 to the big bad United States.

01:35:07.760 And so that was in their interest in that sense.

01:35:10.240 So these kinds of tacit agreements to stay silent can emerge in these counterinsurgency, counterterrorism contexts.

01:35:15.900 The thing it lacks, which is, I think, really important to the particular argument I lay out of the book,

01:35:20.640 is another side who can participate in an escalation process.

01:35:24.680 So if you're engaging in counterterrorism operations in Mali, it's not clear who exactly is on the other side.

01:35:30.440 There's no real threat.

01:35:32.140 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:35:33.060 probably more for your more for your public image at home i think that's part of it or the local

01:35:39.380 host government just like with yemen the the mali government may not want it advertised in their own

01:35:44.660 local media sphere that these operations are taking place it can be very controversial just

01:35:49.140 to host american troops let alone host active combat operations he continues on here one

01:35:55.220 advantage of the theater metaphor is highlighting aspects of war that are often neglected in

01:36:01.220 alternative metaphors such as the bargaining model of war. Conceptualizing war as a bargaining

01:36:07.120 process highlights the division of stakes or goods and the role of deception and commitment

01:36:12.440 devices in altering the size of the pie for each side. The theater metaphor highlights how leaders

01:36:17.980 simultaneously manage the public image of a conflict and compete for the spoils within that

01:36:24.100 conflict. The theater metaphor's distinctiveness is in highlighting leaders' desire to

01:36:30.760 explicitly or implicitly collaborate in grooming the basic definition of their conflict encounter

01:36:37.720 so i returned to the war in ukraine a lot of people look at that and they say something's

01:36:44.840 going on here something's fishy you look at zelensky you look at all the stories about

01:36:50.980 ukraine appropriating all this money receiving all this money and then it disappears

01:36:55.780 there's so much corruption within that regime

01:36:59.460 it's not what you're being told

01:37:03.100 it's not the freedom fighters versus the evil oligarchs of Russia

01:37:08.880 but there's something

01:37:12.340 there seems to be a huge back room to that

01:37:17.080 especially between America and Ukraine

01:37:19.220 America understands what's going on here

01:37:22.380 I don't even think they particularly like Ukraine 0.99

01:37:24.920 i don't think anyone likes zelinski i think everyone knows he's something of a gangster fraud 0.99

01:37:31.000 but you what are you going to do about it another thing and i want to pass it to you just because i

01:37:36.900 want to get your thoughts on this so far but i am cognizant of as we talk about war in these terms

01:37:45.020 a theater metaphor of course i just like to remind people that these are people's lives as well

01:37:52.640 you know it's very easy to talk about war like what's the preferable type of war well i mean

01:37:59.260 it's still thousands of young men being blown up it's still if you want to be reminded of what war

01:38:06.160 is look at the war in ukraine i've seen russians and ukrainians alike run screaming and crying

01:38:13.660 from drones where the operator seems to be toying with them like a cat about to kill a mouse for

01:38:20.240 fun you know like this is very sick and twisted stuff on both sides that's what you're dealing

01:38:25.460 with when you talk about you know covert what's the smart way to do this war i don't i guess the

01:38:31.760 only smart way would be as few people dying as possible but i don't know it seems wild that on

01:38:37.980 both sides people seem to the only people who don't seem to like are the people who are actually

01:38:42.700 doing it the rest of the populace seems to be willing to sacrifice quite a bit so so far what

01:38:49.500 do you think about all this work he gives i want to give a bunch of examples always talking about

01:38:55.060 here because it breaks down a bunch of different wars and gets in the actual history what's going

01:38:59.680 on but um he gives an example of israel here that i find amusing he says conspicuous non-acknowledgement

01:39:08.000 of an exposed secret can take on symbolic significance as when israeli non-acknowledgement

01:39:14.180 of nuclear weapons is seen as less proactive and admission dangerous this also finds expression in

01:39:20.260 the theater metaphor actors are reassured of one another's commitment to the performance

01:39:24.900 when they see one another ignoring exposed backstage behavior even if it's visible to the

01:39:31.200 audience the alternative like pointing out a mistake on stage can be seen as an indication

01:39:37.260 that other actors or major powers are prepared to accept a breakdown of the performance which is 0.90

01:39:43.100 unlimited war so that's interesting so israel has nukes everyone in the international community

01:39:50.720 knows that they have nukes we are not supposed to know that you and i and everyone but we all

01:39:56.300 kind of know they've never admitted to it but it is you that's part of a game that they're playing

01:40:03.420 it's like as long as they don't acknowledge that this sort of facade this game can keep playing 0.87

01:40:09.140 but if if we do admit that israel has nukes that would be cause for total war basically right

01:40:20.580 like if people if there was evidence of the samson option saying oh israel is willing to

01:40:26.620 destroy the world if it doesn't get what it wants or it feels threatened in any way you say okay 0.70

01:40:32.300 logically we all need to go to war against israel but it's strange that like even even iran isn't 0.89

01:40:41.180 pulling that card you know what i mean like there's a lot of things that are wrong look at

01:40:46.860 the war between israel and iran like iran's behavior is so perplexing to many but it seems

01:40:54.600 that they're behaving as if they're playing a part as well and they're working with some

01:40:59.220 information that we don't have like it it should have been open war many times before but it hasn't

01:41:07.140 right like even when trump took out uh the general soleimani like that was like that's a weird thing

01:41:15.500 to happen to have no sort of repercussions especially given their reach with hezbollah

01:41:21.180 so you're like okay what whatever is going on here tells me that there's back channels going on

01:41:26.340 that a war is being prevented somehow

01:41:28.960 because on the surface,

01:41:30.760 the theater that I'm witnessing,

01:41:33.200 this should have kicked off by now.

01:41:35.460 So this is the only way to explain any of that, really.

01:41:39.400 But then you think that beneath the surface,

01:41:41.700 how much covert ops are going on?

01:41:43.880 We talk about Hezbollah.

01:41:45.780 We talk about Mossad.

01:41:47.680 We talk about the CIA.

01:41:49.560 Everyone acknowledges that all of these groups

01:41:52.020 are effectively fighting wars right now and we talked about that when we discussed um the book

01:42:00.060 on Mossad right and we didn't get into enough examples in that because there's a ton of

01:42:05.700 examples that he just gets into later in the book but like there's all kinds of like hostage crises

01:42:13.000 that are basically war it's just that civilians are involved airliners that are blown up or very

01:42:19.940 narrowly avoided being blown up like there's all these close calls where a plan is foiled or a plan

01:42:27.220 is blamed on terrorists but it's not really terrorists this is just this is you're just

01:42:33.220 witnessing a part of a secret war that you shouldn't be seeing right now like but once you

01:42:39.300 see like the three-dimensional nature of this you're like oh so now don't we talk about democracy

01:42:45.300 being a facade oh most of this war is a facade too this is just what we're allowed to see

01:42:51.540 and then there's all this conniving behind the scenes to each decide like no one's fighting to

01:42:58.420 the death but if you're not fighting the death then why do war right because i remember like

01:43:03.300 this these are human lives like you're negotiating okay what's what is the ideal amount that i can

01:43:11.860 sacrifice to resolve this transaction to continue the show you know we need to close the show

01:43:21.780 so is it 50 000 american lives is it a hundred thousand iranian lives is that what we're talking

01:43:27.620 about here it sounds like we're just talking about human sacrifice yeah yeah that sounds

01:43:33.300 which which we've we have talked about before it a lot of this stuff does look like that doesn't

01:43:38.340 and i'm not even trying to say it's for satanic purposes right it's just it's transactional it's

01:43:44.420 almost worse like here's here's what we need to get away with just so we don't they don't think

01:43:51.560 we're weak right and that's what you're dying for private um he goes on here he says a common

01:43:59.020 misinterpretation of the process leading to the crimean war for example was that domestic hawkish

01:44:05.520 constraints on British and French leaders exacerbated misunderstandings among those

01:44:10.180 states and Russia. Dramatized news coverage of Russia's attack on Sinope Harbor, for example,

01:44:16.420 triggered frenzied emotions, which helped incentivize escalatory interventions.

01:44:22.360 Historians also cite the role of yellow journalism in sensationalizing events during the Spanish

01:44:27.540 American War in 1898. The realist George Kennan's disdain for mass popular opinion was influenced

01:44:34.940 By the way, the crisis with Spain was influenced by swings in public opinion that produced dangerous constraints in leaders.

01:44:41.940 And I guess that's what I'd like to get to next, where people look at this theater metaphor and believe that everything is just being orchestrated behind the scenes.

01:44:51.400 Well, now, remember why the theater needs to exist.

01:44:54.820 The theater needs to exist because the people demand something.

01:44:58.600 They demand a story.

01:45:00.780 They demand good guys and bad guys.

01:45:02.280 they demand something to make sense of what's perhaps going on behind the scenes but the reason

01:45:08.360 they need to offer them the theater is because if they don't they do fear the people there is a

01:45:14.160 populism to this now i'm not a populist but if you are an adherent to elite theory

01:45:22.100 adherent of elite theory rather you understand that there's a reason why elites lie to people

01:45:27.880 if the elites were in total control

01:45:30.040 and had total power over everything they wouldn't need to lie

01:45:32.560 they could just be open about what they're doing 0.98

01:45:34.740 because who gives a shit because they don't have power 0.98

01:45:36.440 it turns out regular people do have 0.97

01:45:38.720 some power they have something 0.73

01:45:40.000 that the leaders fear which is why they need to lie

01:45:42.500 which is why they need to put on a show

01:45:44.100 so that there's a reason

01:45:46.040 they don't want these conflicts out in the open

01:45:48.340 because like I said

01:45:50.280 the people can make demands

01:45:52.780 whip up a frenzy

01:45:54.340 it just becomes uncontrollable

01:45:56.920 And really, that's what he's saying there. Look, backstage, we have control over this. Once the people find out, once the world can see that, you know, we're losing control of this, then stock markets crash, trades disrupted, right?

01:46:12.160 If no one knows what's going on and everything's chaotic, then you see what's happening now with, what, the price of gas, the price of fertilizer?

01:46:22.340 I think what Trump is doing is taking all this backstage stuff and just putting it right on the screen in a way that bothers people.

01:46:32.700 I think he's talking to leaders publicly in a way that he would talk to them on the phone and they could say, okay, let's just come to terms. 1.00

01:46:41.500 he's come out saying i'm gonna take over venezuela i'm gonna take over and fuck you 0.99

01:46:45.580 i'm gonna destroy you if you don't give me what i want and like they're just not used to someone 1.00

01:46:49.860 saying that i'm sure that was communicated some way like okay okay let's be real let's have a 0.97

01:46:55.980 drink whatever but he's like like there i don't think there is a backstage anymore i think trump

01:47:01.100 just ripped the curtain down and said look look everyone what's going on i'm not saying that's

01:47:06.040 good even but i just think we're seeing a side to this international diplomacy that we've never 0.94

01:47:12.360 seen before but this is this is how they all talk i bet this is how fucking macron talks i bet this 1.00

01:47:18.700 is how fucking angela merkel talks i bet they're all fucking like boorish assholes and they're 1.00

01:47:24.460 fucking drunk and horny talking to macron knowing what he is knowing he's got a fucking mom wife 1.00

01:47:33.020 I think that's not going to come up 1.00

01:47:35.680 he says the Agadir crisis

01:47:39.660 of 1911 foreshadowed these themes

01:47:41.740 on the eve of World War I

01:47:43.020 Germany's lead diplomat in the crisis

01:47:45.500 Alfred von Kinderlin

01:47:47.200 Wichter cultivated

01:47:49.020 ultra-nationalist press coverage in Germany

01:47:51.400 to strengthen Germany's hand vis-a-vis

01:47:53.380 French claims in Morocco

01:47:55.140 this fueled hawkish press and elite

01:47:57.420 opinion in France because remember

01:47:58.820 you got the population

01:48:00.580 you have the people the voters maybe don't care about them what's above them what's the business

01:48:05.940 class and there's a lot of overlap there we care about the business class a bit more don't you

01:48:12.020 of course you do what's above them the elites pulled from the business class or controlling

01:48:18.560 the business class you know these are the dynastic families this is where the real the old money is

01:48:23.360 you really care what they think because they get all the money for you they're they're a huge part

01:48:29.720 the tax base you care what their opinion is the opinion of the elites can be swayed by the people

01:48:34.860 beneath them too and then the elites can influence everyone within your caucus within your regime

01:48:41.120 wherever it might be so that's why you know it's not just the sovereign and his friends 0.99

01:48:48.760 that's not how any place operates that's not how it works in fucking china 0.65

01:48:52.960 he says two decades after the spanish civil war and only five years after world war ii 0.94

01:48:59.540 conflict between North and South Korea threatened to again plunge the wider international system

01:49:04.560 into war. The Korean War, fought from 1950 to 1953, grew to include multiple outside

01:49:11.680 interventions. Yet, despite Soviet, American, and Chinese combat participation, the war was

01:49:18.620 successfully limited to the Korean Peninsula. Though limited, the war helped launch the Cold

01:49:24.360 War. In the United States, fighting in the Korean War reversed much of the post-war

01:49:28.660 demobilization helped propel approval of the influential nsc 68 political strategy policy

01:49:36.060 strategy and swell the nascent national security state washington reacted swiftly to the rapid

01:49:42.680 advance of north korea's invading force within five days truman approved unrestricted use of

01:49:47.880 air and naval assets regarding domestic policies and hawkish pressure american leaders in particular

01:49:55.100 wrestled with a volatile domestic climate.

01:49:58.320 The idea of limited war itself was difficult to square

01:50:01.080 with the enormous national effort used in World War II.

01:50:04.760 As Soviet and American trust eroded in the late 1940s,

01:50:09.340 fears of communist subversion and aggression were strong.

01:50:12.580 Moreover, the ideological character of the budding rivalry

01:50:15.840 between Moscow, Washington, and their allies

01:50:18.060 produced acute concern for reputation as well as uncertainty

01:50:21.880 the most strategic goals among the united states china the soviet union so that's the korean war

01:50:28.260 is a really interesting case of this and you can see the leaders you can see the power structure

01:50:32.920 taking the temperature of the nation at the time you know how like we just left world war ii

01:50:39.960 people are still traumatized by that here we go starting something up with the soviet union is

01:50:47.400 is can we work with that are people really risk adverse right now or it could be the opposite

01:50:55.320 they could be raring for war because they're just in that mode right now you know like they're used

01:51:00.980 to it you know and maybe we get a couple decades people being used to war so he says stalin imposed

01:51:09.420 significant restrictions to conceal the soviet role ensuring air combat with u.s pilots would

01:51:14.880 remain on the wars backstage he was only willing to deploy soviet personnel in ways that maximize

01:51:21.360 plausible deniability he gave strict orders to assume the appearance of north korean or chinese

01:51:27.140 personnel which is so funny you know where your mind's going he's telling the soviet soldiers

01:51:33.320 look chinese oh wonderful um to avoid apprehension of the enemy planes flown by soviet pilots bore

01:51:43.840 the markings of north korea or china soviet pilots wore chinese style uniforms bombing and

01:51:49.880 strafing operations were disallowed and flying deep behind enemy lines strictly forbidden

01:51:54.800 most challenging soviet pilots pilots were instructed to conduct intense aerial dog bites

01:52:00.420 while only communicating with a set of memorized chinese words

01:52:05.480 can you imagine have you heard of a russian doing a chinese accent

01:52:10.980 while flying a plane so is he doing is he doing russian in a chinese accent or is he doing

01:52:19.320 chinese in a russian accent i mean these are the questions you ask yeah that's what i want to know

01:52:23.500 i think we need the fight recordings

01:52:25.140 the american power's like what in tarnation

01:52:30.680 why the sam hill is going on up there we got chinese russians

01:52:37.940 he says recall that u.s leaders withheld evidence of a soviet advisory role in the

01:52:46.620 initial invasion and carefully tailored their public language to avoid accusations of soviet

01:52:51.960 participation once moscow's combat entry was detected a similar response followed as noted

01:52:58.360 above the command instructions to general macarthur in the field were to ignore unannounced soviet

01:53:04.900 military personnel so like you have such a wild scenario where it's like both sides they're like

01:53:10.880 we're going to pretend this isn't a war why are you pretending this isn't a war because we can't

01:53:15.140 we can't have people thinking that it is so they can't you know they need to lie to people because

01:53:19.820 otherwise you know the entire system maybe starts to collapse but i don't know it's

01:53:25.660 it's hard for me to wrap my head around this because i still have the mindset where it's

01:53:31.620 either war or it's not and if it's not

01:53:33.620 war then why do it

01:53:35.020 right either you hate

01:53:37.160 this enemy and you want 1.00

01:53:39.600 to destroy them or you fucking 1.00

01:53:41.640 don't and you find another 1.00

01:53:43.700 way to resolve this maybe I'm

01:53:45.600 a peacenik I guess

01:53:46.880 right but don't do like

01:53:49.620 a third small war because

01:53:51.700 again it's still alive and then it just

01:53:53.500 seems unnecessary

01:53:54.660 if you're if both of you

01:53:57.460 are conscious enough to back

01:53:59.620 channel this and backstage this 0.97

01:54:01.320 while you're backstage can you just say let's not do this and you decide to just kill 50 000 people 0.72

01:54:07.400 and yes yeah because you're backstage already we can just we can just we can if we're already 0.96

01:54:12.700 coordinating this covertly can we just coordinate to not fucking do it honestly the ukraine war to 0.60

01:54:19.340 me at this point seems like it's that essentially like i i think russia either could have made a 0.85

01:54:25.620 deal or won if they pushed but they won't push it's like they're doing attrition they're trying

01:54:30.600 to just kill as many ukrainian men as they can ukraine isn't even run by ukraine it's run by 0.98

01:54:35.680 fucking israel and the eu in the u.s so just just stop like the irony about the ukraine war is like 0.99

01:54:43.480 if you're actually interested in saving ukraine which is to say the ukrainian people you would 0.99

01:54:48.400 end the war under any fucking condition immediately because you have destroyed an entire generation of 0.99

01:54:56.120 young ukrainians now they're dead they're not coming back and for what for the fucking donbass 0.99

01:55:01.800 for like some some mud literally some fucking mud like you nobody nobody gets anything out of this 0.99

01:55:08.260 fucking war man and remember like i mentioned this before on the show but i said i had people 0.99

01:55:13.460 pretty agitated against me when i said i don't think this is going the way russia wanted it 0.98

01:55:19.860 you know how ukraine has lost so many people but make no mistake so is russia russia's lost

01:55:27.620 there's a lot of dead russians oh yeah fighting over this right but that's my point like i hear 0.90

01:55:34.660 okay my i'm not the guy right but my take is that russia could actually end this but russia is evil

01:55:40.700 in the sense that their goal i think russia's actual geopolitical goal is to torch all of 0.74

01:55:46.860 ukraine is to make it an unlivable an unlivable border zone because they would nato wouldn't allow

01:55:54.600 it to stay a border zone they tried to take it so like all right we're essentially going to 0.99

01:55:57.860 demographically nuke it you can't build anything there anymore we're going to ruin it and in doing 0.99

01:56:02.740 so i don't mind killing four million of my own citizens i don't give a fuck i'll just i'll just 0.99

01:56:08.440 murder four million of my own citizens in order to re-establish the borders it was so funny is that 1.00

01:56:13.460 there's certain the commentators on our side who would hear you say that and say oh that's just

01:56:19.700 western propaganda you know there's no way russia wants to do that there's no way any pro-russia 0.99

01:56:24.560 person would say that but to them politicians i mean they're fucking psychos to them i'd say 1.00

01:56:29.760 to those commentators i'd say i've personally seen some of you say we should kill every ukrainian 0.99

01:56:37.300 you know what i mean like i've personally seen a lot of like pro-russia people say like 0.90

01:56:42.420 the best case scenario is if they glass ukraine and kill everyone there i'm like so you're actually

01:56:48.100 in favor of it there could be some russians that are in favor of too like the amount of bloodlust 0.72

01:56:52.320 i'm seeing towards ukrainians just ukrainian soldiers right is is staggering even to me and

01:56:59.680 i'm not trying to take a side here you know i'm not necessarily pro-ukraine or pro-russia and we

01:57:04.840 in fact we probably spoke more favorably to the the russian agenda in the past but at this point

01:57:13.160 like there's there's no reason for it to be continuing at this point either side could 0.97

01:57:19.300 have ended it and just stopped the bloodshed but they're both still fucking at it yeah because i 0.67

01:57:23.580 don't believe this war is what they say it is that's not what this is we're seeing a lot of 0.81

01:57:27.520 dead people but as we've said i do believe that this model is true it's inarguable that it is

01:57:33.780 true it's just to what degree i think um there might be a case we made that we're watching the

01:57:40.340 closing of the back channel with trump or it's evolving into a new form i don't know i don't i

01:57:46.320 don't have the phone numbers of these people but i think there's a lot of stuff that's just being 0.97

01:57:51.060 put on the table right now like let's just be honest in front of everyone because who fucking

01:57:55.380 cares let's just embrace the chaos which is what putin could do right now wouldn't that be cool if 0.99

01:58:00.840 was like drop it's like yeah i just i want to kill every ukrainian he just said that i bet i bet 0.97

01:58:07.560 nothing would happen probably the people who think he's evil already will just continue thinking he's 0.89

01:58:13.640 evil and the people that don't won't care they'll be like oh you didn't do that already they're still

01:58:20.040 there oh man it says in some respects the appeal of covertness and collusion may be higher in a

01:58:27.080 post-Cold War world. The spread of democracy and hybrid regime types seem to increase leaders'

01:58:33.640 vulnerability to hawkish domestic nationalism. Moreover, challenges and communicating intentions

01:58:40.220 regarding limited war have been present in post-Cold War conflicts like Bosnia and the

01:58:46.080 Syrian Civil War. Indeed, the Obama White House reportedly studied the history of the Cold War

01:58:51.620 covert intervention as it deliberated how to intervene in the syrian civil war moreover reports

01:58:57.860 of a shadow will feel like this reports of a shadow war between israel and iran in the middle

01:59:03.460 east suggests that covert activity and escalation control continued to be linked even when rivalries

01:59:09.460 are regional so like yeah there's like a secret war between israel and iran so that you look at

01:59:13.860 this war right now it's like okay this is just this is just an expression of that but like there's

01:59:20.660 just been one big war between israel and iran the entire time you know that's massad versus hezbollah

01:59:27.780 you know what i mean and so then like all these intelligence agency wars as well

01:59:33.620 and then how that overlaps with organized crime that's where we're going to get to the epstein

01:59:39.380 stuff soon because you know the intelligence agencies tend to work hand in glove with organized

01:59:47.780 crime of various races um he said i'm gonna end it with this he says in the conceptual language

01:59:56.420 of my theory internet-based attacks take place in the new kind of backstage a segregated cyberspace

02:00:02.740 where visibility is limited and where states and non-state actors can engage in coercive and other

02:00:08.420 operations cyber weapons are not overtly violent if broadly exposed by states or non-state groups

02:00:15.380 a covert cyber attack can allow its sponsor to lower the risk that domestic hawkish actors will

02:00:21.380 react and potentially constrain the target in short cyber technology may function like the

02:00:27.540 invention of flight or submarine warfare so we'll just leave it at that um it's pretty simple in its

02:00:35.300 thesis and it backs it up with a lot of case studies across the 20th century so i suppose

02:00:43.460 what do you think of that because my sense is that this is how war has always operated

02:00:48.980 very and the role of diplomacy has shifted but while there has been a very large

02:00:56.660 backstage area throughout the 20th century i see it shrinking i think wiki leaks help with that

02:01:03.220 there's so much disclosure so many leaks so many conspiracy theories if people don't have access

02:01:08.900 to the backstage they are imagining the backstage and that influences their reaction to things no

02:01:14.100 one trusts the government everyone assumes they're lying or maybe not everyone but enough

02:01:21.140 so i think it's true i do wonder though if it's if it's just too chaotic at this point and can you

02:01:28.420 really demarcate the front stage from backstage anymore are we just an experimental theater now

02:01:34.660 slam poetry is war they're called i mean the theater metaphor works when you're in a shitty

02:01:44.280 experimental play and they're calling you up on stage who can't help us oh no i'm gonna sketch

02:01:51.440 now that's what it feels like being a civilian okay i've been recruited and i don't know i'm

02:01:59.860 i'm working with the government and and i didn't even know until i'm in a concentration camp later

02:02:10.100 all right so that's the end of that um what do you think did you like it yeah yeah it's pretty

02:02:16.100 good pretty good i like it we're gonna we're building a conceptual framework for covert and

02:02:23.780 back channel power that will make you i mean it'll make you lose your mind because then nothing's

02:02:32.420 anything anymore because it's not elite it's not just elite theory it's elite theory layered on top

02:02:39.140 of valid conspiracy theories and then populism is a part of that too sorry it is and then there's

02:02:47.460 the managerial class argument and like these are all stratified and that's how you need to model

02:02:54.420 society because all of these things actually do exist people like to focus on one i'm like well

02:02:59.540 that gives you an incomplete model for society anyway i will let you go now thank you for taking

02:03:05.060 the time and i'll see you next time see you

02:03:10.180 hey baby i hear the blues are calling top salad and scrambled eggs

02:03:14.900 and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you back

02:03:21.940 we're recording now by the way oh are we yeah i just did you reminded me i should probably do

02:03:30.600 that okay great okay we were just so we missed out a whole bunch of shit where we were talking

02:03:35.800 a great bit uh now we have a really unclear intro that will leave the audience uh confused and 0.90

02:03:42.960 angered which is sort of my goal this is what i'm trying to capture with our show where you feel

02:03:47.600 like you walked into a deeply uncomfortable room and you don't know whether you're half in half

02:03:54.480 out like where where should i be headed right now you should feel like you you took the wrong turn 0.99

02:04:01.280 on a hall and instead of like walking in to see your accountant you walked into like a white trash 0.93

02:04:06.720 funeral and and grandma's you know she's she's spread out and like your aunts and uncles grandma 0.99

02:04:14.640 about a about a four thousand dollar life insurance policy that should be the experience 0.97

02:04:19.440 of listening to this podcast you turn the corner you're in a white trash funeral you're in the 0.95

02:04:24.240 back rooms and if this is going to be a nasty afternoon one of my buddies uh and it's generally 0.96

02:04:34.880 from what i've heard a very positive job uh but he started working at a funeral home and

02:04:40.400 there are pros and cons to the job the pros are uh you provide an actual legitimate service

02:04:47.780 in exchange for money which is not a given in this world uh the downside is uh as badly behaved

02:04:56.620 as you think someone would act at a funeral just 10x that like there there's a whole behind the

02:05:04.300 office system for for marking troubled individuals there's there's there's lying cheating uh forgery

02:05:12.700 right uh for for the smallest amount of money you can imagine because you would think it would be

02:05:19.420 unidirectional that everyone gets the idea that it's the funeral homes are taking advantage of

02:05:25.020 people but it could very well be the other way around it's like a divorce attorney you're dealing

02:05:29.740 with people who are whose entire financial universe is blowing up before your eyes and

02:05:35.420 you're hoping that you're going to get paid you know like maybe things get lost in the shuffle

02:05:40.860 funny story one of the agencies that i worked for years ago primarily dealt with funeral homes but

02:05:50.220 all the other sort of satellite organizations and companies and they call it death care

02:05:56.060 got your health care over here but then there's a death care industry and uh the unfortunate news

02:06:03.900 is death care is booming and that's a sector that's an industry i guess you could call it

02:06:10.540 that is very attractive to investors right now because you're you're seeing it now but you're 0.98

02:06:17.340 going to see it even more in the future boomers just dying and then there's going to be a lot

02:06:23.980 it's a very real logistical problem considering the cemetery space you're going to need to 0.92

02:06:31.560 facilitate all this because as we were talking about before uh we went live boomers you know 0.93

02:06:37.720 they take their life and death very seriously you know we're talking about made up here in canada

02:06:45.080 and i think the line we ended on was there's so many people who should be committing suicide that 1.00

02:06:51.460 aren't and that's a problem and we were saying that boomers they cling on they cling on right

02:06:58.440 to the very end but they're going to have money put aside for a big funeral a big grave plot and 0.99

02:07:05.040 then what are you going to do like this is going to be the salad days for funeral homes but

02:07:10.420 you know it's a strange thing to think like you got to think ahead what are we going to do with 0.98

02:07:14.740 all these fucking corpses but you know that's what they're talking about their conventions 0.98

02:07:19.220 weirdly one of the other big problems is the the desire to cling on to life so strongly that you 0.99

02:07:27.220 just never make any plans whatsoever like no will because that would require you to admit that you

02:07:34.120 were mortal you might not be around uh just no planning whatsoever and uh yeah man it's uh it's

02:07:42.860 it's grim but let me tell you uh you say it's like divorce but only half of people need a divorce

02:07:49.840 lawyer a hundred percent of people need a guy to cart their corpse around and so yeah you know

02:07:56.080 if you're looking for uh for uh job security it's probably a pretty decent bet i i as far as i

02:08:05.060 understand the working conditions are somewhat grim but uh you know what every job is in some

02:08:11.480 way uh humiliating and soul killing so it's kind of just up to you where you apportion that i'm

02:08:16.980 just gonna say this jay burden is such a pro and so good at this job of host it sounded like

02:08:25.840 he was teeing up for a sponsor ad read right there like i could that could say we brought to you by 0.98

02:08:33.560 death brought to you by uh james's fucking uh corpse eaters i did not think that through 0.98

02:08:44.420 i got i talk about walking into a room that you don't know 0.99

02:08:48.220 you're an advertising guy you get halfway through you're like we can't advertise this

02:08:54.280 cannibalism what are we even advertising are you looking for recruits are we looking 0.99

02:08:59.340 why the fuck not nothing nothing matters i'm just nihilistic don draver nothing matters 1.00

02:09:06.480 everyone dies everyone's gay you're drinking not to get through the day but just sort of 1.00

02:09:13.580 numb the existential dread that all is vanity everyone mad men drinking it's like i i just i 0.99

02:09:22.960 i didn't know we couldn't do that everyone in the office pretending that they're not drinking 0.96

02:09:27.300 and things like huh it's this is alcohol huh like a fucking jim downy bit i was going to say 0.56

02:09:34.680 of resurrecting mad men you know doing what we kind of do here uh in in the west which is we 0.74

02:09:41.280 take something that's successful and reboot it you know years later but instead of being about

02:09:46.760 you know chiseled jawed clean shaven high-powered advertising executives it's just the modern day

02:09:53.480 version of that which is like 13 of the dimmest people you went to college all on a zoom meeting

02:09:59.700 uh you know trying to figure out what they can steal from canva and pass off as their own work

02:10:04.920 and they're also alcoholics it's really just a documentary on what it's like to being an ad 0.68

02:10:10.580 agency right now you just described my fucking life how can i cheat shutterstock okay do they 0.95

02:10:20.680 are we allowed to pirate adobe it's like i know there's a new version but they don't really have 0.99

02:10:25.300 anything that matters it's ai who gives a fuck all i need is the lasso tool really uh i mean 0.88

02:10:31.540 to that point man i have uh and this for the sake of any adobe account executive is satirical 0.98

02:10:39.860 it's a joke but as someone who's only used pirated versions of adobe software i actually

02:10:47.200 do not know the english name for any function because like i just learned it all pictorially

02:10:53.980 you know so it's like i don't know and cyrillic it's like the r shape what do you want me to say

02:10:58.520 it's so fucking funny it's just and you just download it by accident there is an english 0.81

02:11:03.820 version it's like fuck it i'm just gonna learn cyrillic man i always know 100 100 it was like 0.94

02:11:09.540 when i was like 14 the first time i did it and now it's like well i mean it's like i look at 0.96

02:11:14.020 the terms anyway like what is it this is how the rest of the world does it they get a cracked

02:11:19.260 version of something that's english so they have to learn english and that's what got in this

02:11:23.740 predicament yeah really so what you're saying is dimes is that i'm part of the problem i'm saying

02:11:31.000 every single person is a part of the problem and they need to be aware of what part they have to

02:11:36.860 play you know maybe maybe we can kind of we can align some interests here uh canada wants to kill 0.63

02:11:45.860 people and adobe wants to suck people dry and punish them harshly or for pirating their software 0.93

02:11:55.060 so so far made is like a therapy right it's medical treatment oh you've got ibs oh you're old 0.99

02:12:02.340 oh you're a white person uh so just kill yourself what if we added uh another additional criteria 0.99

02:12:09.960 which is that adobe sends a box truck to your house throws you in the back and then takes you 1.00

02:12:17.200 to canadian doctor and kills you yeah i mean i i like that idea just off the top right now i'm

02:12:24.720 going to give you my my read on that idea my gut reaction i like it because i like the idea of being 0.96

02:12:29.740 thrown in a truck and killed generally uh if adobe is involved sure if ikea is involved why not

02:12:38.220 see i just really what i'm trying to get out here is i i really want to be thrown into a truck and 0.98

02:12:43.440 slaughtered and uh it sucks that the canadian government's doing it because i don't know you 0.98

02:12:49.400 get the sense they're going to give you estrogen before they do it they're going to pump you full 0.99

02:12:52.760 of something just because it looks like being killed in a gay way which i think you know 0.99

02:12:57.120 ultimately if we're looking at you know what is the deepest darkest fear of man it's like death 0.85

02:13:03.480 is there but really it's dying in like a gay way because like you think about it like you know 0.96

02:13:10.540 men have always been you know involved in war and conflicts and you know the guys who you know saw 0.88

02:13:17.540 their friends die kind of edit the stories right you get the like noble version of it and you know

02:13:23.360 film they kind of show you you know once you have you know movies what it's like but now thanks to

02:13:28.860 like 4k uh drone footage we get to see the horrors of war not only in some uh poor russian conscript 0.99

02:13:38.500 being turned into chef boyardee uh but also we get to see the like oh oh you like you look stupid 0.99

02:13:46.480 which is just like to be honest it literally fate worse than death and so the canadian government 0.99

02:13:52.320 euthanizing you it's like well you die that's you know not always a positive but also that you're 0.74

02:13:58.960 right they are going to make you gay before they kill you i'm there on what i assume is an operating 0.98

02:14:05.680 table i'm imagining like a lethal injection in a prison because why why wouldn't they and then as 0.99

02:14:12.080 i'm fading as my eyes are dimming i see a drone flying overhead recording it and then before it

02:14:20.320 goes black i see they're taking out the lipstick to put lipstick on me that's

02:14:27.280 so i'm now i'm getting from the world oh well the uh this is this is super dark but uh one of my

02:14:35.680 my brother-in-law actually has been writing wrote an article about uh euthanasia and so he's just

02:14:44.240 been kind of interested in this topic and uh he pulled i think it was from the atlantic this

02:14:49.600 article because uh what they're doing that's super cool in the netherlands is that they are

02:14:55.040 they're extending these sort of programs to uh to minors right if you're like 16 you can get it done

02:15:01.680 and the tone of it is of course you know relatively neutral they're like huh

02:15:06.240 maybe it is cool to kill teenagers which you know i'm sympathetic to that argument uh but

02:15:13.440 there's this like sort of slice of life where you're you're seeing like the first one of the 0.96

02:15:18.240 the first kids get killed by the state and it's like wow this was such a dignified moment and

02:15:23.940 that's how they describe it of course and then the actual thing is that they just put uh gta 5

02:15:28.780 on demo load so he's in his like crappy bedroom getting euthanized watching gta 5 play itself

02:15:38.780 which is like just the darkest thing i can imagine they're putting like a ps1 demo thing it's like

02:15:45.500 that's like a trailer trailer for the game yeah it came out of a checks box in 2003

02:15:50.580 see i've been i've been nursing this theory for a while that jay burns actually like almost 40 0.99

02:15:58.080 he's been making a lot of bank a lot of cloud on being this gen z guy no he's a fucking unk 0.94

02:16:05.820 that that's a unk reference right there yeah i'm i'm on as the kids say i'm unked out uh 0.98

02:16:13.100 yeah when he gets up in the morning his bones creak that is actually true that's just uh

02:16:21.260 there is a a point in your life as a man where you have to pick which part of your body doesn't

02:16:27.980 work forever and i have i've i rolled like a gnat one i got knees tell you there's just

02:16:36.220 no cartilage left what are you up to jay what have you been doing with your knees

02:16:41.500 part of it uh like a series of like injuries in kind of my adolescence the other thing is like

02:16:49.020 you just do like wrestling and jujitsu your knees are just destroyed and a smart person would say

02:16:56.900 well how about you either pursue alternate activities or do those activities differently 0.98

02:17:03.000 And my response is, that sounds gay. So I'm just going to wake up every morning in moderate to 0.92

02:17:12.000 severe pain and look longingly over at the shotgun in a corner and wonder if today's the day.

02:17:19.320 Yeah. What's wild is that if I explain that to a younger version of myself,

02:17:25.040 they might see that as horrific. But having gone through it, now I'm there. I think, okay,

02:17:33.000 it's not so bad if i had to pick up part of my body not to work again or just be rid of it'd 1.00

02:17:39.120 probably be my penis i'm just sick of this shit well good news it's a lot of shit you know when 1.00

02:17:46.360 when you uh when you go to the doctor and you're euthanized uh live via drone footage uh your 1.00

02:17:54.840 organs will be redistributed and there is uh there's a a little somewhere out in the world 0.99

02:18:02.320 maybe a programmer or a graphic designer it's going to get your penis dives surgically attached 0.99

02:18:08.480 so you will live on a graphic designer he will squander it because you know when you're when 1.00

02:18:16.840 you're young you're teens your 20s and you hear a story about someone who they got their penis 0.98

02:18:23.860 exploded by a grenade or bitten off by a clown or something you're thinking man if that was me i'd 0.98

02:18:29.660 just kill myself and now if i imagine becoming a eunuch something happened chemical i get too 0.87

02:18:38.240 few or too many vaccines whatever it is i'd say okay i don't it's gotten me nothing but trouble 0.92

02:18:45.940 my entire life now i can focus on i got a new smoker last year i can refocus on that there's 0.99

02:18:53.460 so much shit in life that i can attend to if i was free of this fucking prison we call penis 0.99

02:19:02.560 i think you're i think you're on to something there see here's the thing jake i gotta say 0.99

02:19:09.940 this i'm gonna say this at the start i'm on to you right because real eager beavers will recall

02:19:18.740 Oh, Jay's been doing this for so long.

02:19:20.660 Such a wonderful show.

02:19:23.120 A popular show. 1.00

02:19:24.800 And you will recall that I used to be Jay's insane retard friend 1.00

02:19:31.280 who used to come on this show all the time. 0.98

02:19:35.160 And then Jay went and traded up.

02:19:37.900 And he thinks that I wouldn't notice.

02:19:39.400 He thinks the people wouldn't notice.

02:19:41.780 He swaps me out for Bird.

02:19:44.260 I used to come on here and say all kinds of stuff. 0.91

02:19:47.420 cleopatra was made of water or whatever the fuck you know the world trade center was a pyramid i

02:19:57.400 used to say that i used to be his guy for that and then i realize i might be spoiling this here

02:20:03.180 but i think what i should do is sort of a parent trap-esque situation where i invite both you and

02:20:10.500 bird to speak to me separately and then i surreptitiously record that conversation

02:20:16.340 but i never say anything yeah kind of closing the loop so that i've much like you have eliminated 0.97

02:20:22.640 your penis as a vestigial organ i will have eliminated myself as a podcast host as an 0.96

02:20:27.760 ultimately a vestigial internet organ first of all i like that idea second of all parent trap 1.00

02:20:34.040 another old ass reference just another drop in the bucket

02:20:37.660 this yes but when did this the second one came out i think there's if you told me there's seven 0.96

02:20:48.120 of them i like freaky friday they just keep doing them and i'm like yeah i bet there's 20 i don't

02:20:53.620 know yeah okay it came out in in 98 which was before i was born but it's like well within the

02:20:58.680 range of what random dvds did some member of your family have so that on like thanksgiving or

02:21:06.900 christmas when they were like all right kids go do something that's like the film you end up

02:21:11.360 watching there's so many if houses that had just a collection of only bad movies oh 100 it's why

02:21:19.500 i've seen uh like the the first madagascar film probably a hundred times uh it is just burned

02:21:27.240 into my brain never consciously like never never you know there was no consent given uh it's like

02:21:34.040 two copies of howard the duck how yeah why did you go back to buy a second one is this in such

02:21:42.200 high demand you're like oh we can't we can't just leave this on vhs this is a classic i'm gonna have

02:21:46.680 it on dvd too it's like wow no one has jurassic park no one has terminator 2 what the are

02:21:53.640 we doing because back then you're thinking you know we'll catch it on tv i'll let the tv tell

02:21:59.880 me when i'm in the mood to watch terminator well that's one of the other the other ones that i

02:22:07.560 did very distinctly remember uh is like very very early in the digital era where like we were kind

02:22:15.480 of first starting to like download movies onto like the whichever the first ipod that had that

02:22:20.680 feature the one that was like really big and square uh but you would also run into the storage

02:22:25.880 problem it's like oh shoot we forgot to download a movie that would take us like eight hours so uh

02:22:31.320 but we still have this you're like right there i think i've watched this movie like 13 times but

02:22:35.560 i guess i'm you know eight years old in a car for 10 hours so like i guess this is my one option 0.99

02:22:41.240 but uh yeah so what i'm saying is we should kill those people too we should we should be killing 0.94

02:22:47.080 everyone all the time but i was going to ask you what what was your favorite movie as a young man 0.95

02:22:52.680 man we're so in the weeds on this already you gave me a topic and i was like yeah that's a

02:22:57.820 good topic yeah enough of that anyway that's not what i'm interested i just showed 20 minutes and

02:23:04.620 what type of movies do you like we've truly reached the like the seventh circle of podcasting hell

02:23:11.260 but uh this is exactly that level of random vhs copies that i've seen probably a hundred times

02:23:19.480 it is uh james and the giant peach the like semi-climation movie that's a good one uh the

02:23:27.020 disney robin hood were like of the three vhs's my grandparents had those were two of them just

02:23:34.420 on repeat you it's wild about the robin it's the one with the fox right and all the animals yeah

02:23:40.680 i as a kid i bet i remember seeing that movie so many times to this day i don't know what it's

02:23:49.140 about i just remember certain scenes and as a kid and that's kind of what's cool about once you

02:23:55.760 have a kid you start seeing the world through their eyes and you understand how they start

02:24:00.280 building memories but you'll watch the same movie over the course of many many years and you

02:24:05.280 actually you build your memories of it but it's like remembering a dream but for that like that

02:24:11.060 movie specifically i all remember is like what the fuck happens in that movie i just remember a guy 0.52

02:24:16.420 going like 12 o'clock in all is well and like that's about it and there's a dance scene 0.58

02:24:25.140 and then i think there's an owl but i've seen the probably 40 times this is this is another question

02:24:32.180 uh as a father guys have you gotten is your are your children old enough yet that you've gotten

02:24:39.300 that like oh you're gonna remember this in like a negative way and there's kind of like formative

02:24:43.860 you know traumatic memories yet yeah um yes yes and i don't know if they're traumatic yet

02:24:49.460 uh time will tell but uh i remember well i should say i remember and that i have memories

02:24:57.300 from when i was very very young um i'm pretty sure i have memories from when i was a baby

02:25:02.100 because i fell down the stairs as an infant and almost died i remember that and i confronted my

02:25:08.260 mother about i'm like something happened that and then she told me later that that is indeed what

02:25:14.500 happened so i'm like that's a strange but what caused that like you can be jolted at a young age

02:25:19.700 to remember something perhaps if it's traumatic but i remember from a very early age remembering

02:25:25.060 certain things almost like moving through a dream and you don't really have control over it right

02:25:32.660 you see you remember things that are traumatic but then you just remember stuff

02:25:36.820 you just start recording and and i don't know what really causes it so my son is three and my

02:25:45.060 daughter is or five months so he he's at an age where i know he can remember things like you can

02:25:52.980 start seeing that they'll remember things from day to day or things that happened last week and refer

02:25:57.860 to them that's kind of how it starts but you're not really aware of like what memories they're

02:26:03.700 making now that they'll remember in five years but you can kind of see it in their eyes if you

02:26:09.300 pay attention and you're present uh you'll see that they're paying very very close attention

02:26:15.780 and they're they seem to be recording in a way and you'll get to know how their eyes and their

02:26:20.740 faces look when they're doing anything it's not like they're just watching tv like they're watching

02:26:25.060 you and it's there's i don't know it's hard to describe but i know he's recording something

02:26:31.780 but uh i don't know if it'll stick around or you know you try and give them good memories but some

02:26:38.180 a lot of life is just boring he might be doing it when i'm like driving around he's in the back seat

02:26:43.380 but he's maybe he's just remembering you know this this area looking out the window on this

02:26:50.500 particularly gray day there's something about this day this context it's raining and then part of

02:26:58.260 being a parent is if i think if you're a good parent is trying to actually see the world through

02:27:02.340 their eyes and uh i don't know but you can't control everything which is the unfortunate

02:27:09.380 reality but hey i'll remember it all and i'm a very and if you ask yourself do you have memories

02:27:18.580 from when you were very very young because then your child or children will probably do the same

02:27:23.780 yeah i have a very formative member of being attacked by a goat as a child

02:27:29.680 that'll do it it's just still don't like goats

02:27:33.060 valid crash out for can you offer would it be medically assisted suicide for a goat or do we

02:27:41.480 just kill goats because i feel like the the number of of genuine uses for such an animal in the

02:27:47.440 modern day are pretty limited uh they're they're not even as an adult you know you're just trying 0.94

02:27:53.160 to look at it objectively not particularly pleasant to be around and uh i think that's

02:27:58.260 more than enough basis to just issue a fatwa on the concept of goats here's how wild i'm being

02:28:05.060 like i really started pondering and staring off in the distance out of my window just now thinking

02:28:11.560 that's like a teleological question like can a animal really commit suicide does it have free

02:28:18.220 will you know like that that could be a real question if you wanted to pose it i know you're

02:28:24.660 just talking about killing the goat that molested you or whatever it was but it's a question like

02:28:30.860 can can an animal yearn for death or suicide like we would i've seen some evidence that

02:28:39.760 elephants can or they have the ability of choosing death now to prevent suffering in the future

02:28:48.000 i've seen some bears do that i think or maybe that's just a meme i saw anyway i don't i don't

02:28:55.320 know if anything's real or not the the classic example right is the lemmings not true just some

02:29:02.480 like grip with a broom uh sticking them off a cliff or whatever but according to my extensive

02:29:09.400 of research on this topic uh there are very few animals capable of suicide but one that is

02:29:18.520 is a creature called a tar sears which i will show you because let me tell you it sure does

02:29:26.320 look like a kill in itself kind of animal uh it's a haunting creature tar sears i'm looking

02:29:33.860 it doesn't doesn't this look like an animal it would kill itself

02:29:36.720 like i don't know what i was anticipating an animal that knows how you're gonna kill yourself

02:29:45.120 yeah yeah it's an animal that sees time as if it's simply another dimension

02:29:50.420 it sees all the strength yeah it's an animal that's seen too much like this is like what

02:29:56.860 the navigators and dude look like you know just like grapes for eyes looking monkey like

02:30:02.100 because part of me wants to know the real justification for why that is but then

02:30:08.360 part of me just likes whatever i come up with and i think we know what is

02:30:12.600 it's he's seen too much that the seer is you just seen time with this world

02:30:18.620 and what would be even wilder is it that started off as a man

02:30:22.320 and he chose to become an animal having seen what he saw i like that idea like like the

02:30:29.320 the bornian tribes that believe that like people and orangutans are basically the same thing but

02:30:34.680 just orangutans never got a job and that's why they look like that i'm not gonna pretend that

02:30:45.160 that is a hundred percent accurate retelling of that little bit of folklore but it's close enough

02:30:49.400 for government work it's like i'm pretty sure that's what happened in planet of the apes like

02:30:53.660 the new ones they just immediately become people once they develop the concept of a job

02:30:59.660 what was um i was reading something that was you know there's this interesting this is a total

02:31:09.040 tangent but there's this book i covered on the show i do with prudentialist do you even read

02:31:13.940 and we did this a two-parter on this book called the transformation of the world

02:31:17.900 by Juergen Osterhamel,

02:31:20.260 and it's a story of the 19th century

02:31:22.100 and all the cultural and technological innovations

02:31:25.820 that arose in the 19th century

02:31:27.680 that a lot of people don't really think about

02:31:29.880 and how much so,

02:31:31.800 like the entire concept of nationalism

02:31:33.920 as we know it

02:31:35.480 is really formed within the 19th century.

02:31:40.000 But one claim he makes in it,

02:31:43.280 and I want to stress test this one

02:31:45.460 because I'm not sure if it's true,

02:31:46.680 But he said, you know, the idea of a regular job kind of came about in the 19th century.

02:31:52.860 And you hear that and you say, OK, wait a minute.

02:31:54.340 What do you mean?

02:31:55.540 What a nine to five labor?

02:31:57.500 It's not really that, but it's sort of like this abstracted idea of like, like I'm just a ham and egger.

02:32:04.940 I'm just a worker.

02:32:05.820 I'm just punching the clock.

02:32:07.660 So the idea is that kind of came about with automation, mass production, stuff like that.

02:32:14.100 but like a job as just not a trade, not something that you master,

02:32:19.880 not something, but it's just like a thing you need to just have and do.

02:32:24.700 And it doesn't really matter what it is. It's you're just investing.

02:32:32.140 Dimes, you muted yourself.

02:32:34.900 Oh, sorry. I did that. We're talking about monkeys having jobs.

02:32:39.260 The idea is that for a monkey to understand that for a monkey to understand 0.98

02:32:44.040 not just labor and work and toil but like this fucking 19th century you know almost capitalist 0.99

02:32:52.500 idea of having a job like yeah that would be really advanced for it that would fuck it up 0.96

02:32:57.400 they would need to understand all these other subordinate ideas as well that will just cascade

02:33:02.420 from that well i i think that you know there's there's this kind of debate among reactionary

02:33:09.660 circles about you know to what degree is darwinism the explanation for everything or is it sort of a

02:33:15.900 you know a capitalist frame a liberal frame placed on the natural world but i propose an alternate

02:33:22.820 model dimes which is the uh the paradox tech tree version of uh of evolution where you you gain some

02:33:34.100 ability you put some points in and you become a radically just different organism so for example

02:33:40.200 all humans before the 19th century were effectively orangutans the job is invented and now it's

02:33:48.540 people like how we are now that's still like it's a break point sort of an a b and so you can have

02:33:55.500 people you know who weren't even there right they were just doing their own thing you know maybe

02:34:00.200 even in a tribal society it's like ah no they they figured out jobs now in person it's just

02:34:05.960 kind of like a world spanning uh development i don't know if the listeners understand what a

02:34:12.740 phenomenal sleight of hand you just did there where and i know jay very well so i can see what

02:34:18.880 he's doing i i see the puppet strings i what he's basically established is that there's a strong

02:34:27.080 correlation between how employed you are and whether or not you're a monkey

02:34:34.360 that is not exactly what i meant but as someone who has put forth this idea

02:34:40.760 and am now willing to die on this hill yes that's exactly what i meant

02:34:48.600 i think we need more of that uh which is uh hastily made conclusions and then a willingness 0.99

02:34:55.560 to uh to kill to sentence someone to gay drone euthanasia oh man support you you are singing my 0.99

02:35:04.680 song brother i love hasty conclusions i love killing to peanut butter and jelly i i i i need 0.99

02:35:12.360 to make a confession to you i stole one of your bits in you you you're welcome to it you not not

02:35:19.560 anyone don't be listening to this thinking you can do it but jay can go on so up at a bachelor

02:35:26.600 party with some some more progressive friends playing a board game already on on shaky ground

02:35:33.940 this one's called secret hitler which given my line of work i like it already it's basically

02:35:40.700 just mafia with the added like very cutting uh political commentary that sir just a cyber can

02:35:47.960 imagine like a mafia hitler yeah yeah his name is like what are you we already tried this no

02:35:56.440 because i was about to say italian hiller and i said no i call myself what i want is

02:36:01.480 like veto corleone hitler sorry continue yeah yeah i can see it the facial hair would be slightly

02:36:07.400 different uh attitude towards usury maybe a little different but whatever we'll work it out

02:36:13.400 uh please so you come to me the day of killing all the jews asking me for a favor when's the 0.72

02:36:23.160 last time you invited me over for dinner just just moving past it it's just joe pesci losing 0.99

02:36:29.560 it about wooden doors and smokestack shadows which now that i say it that's basically just

02:36:35.160 what twitter is a bunch of italians chimping out about the world i haven't seen every joe pesci

02:36:40.280 role i'm like i bet there's one in there where he's just ranting about jews in the holocaust

02:36:45.000 like he's just got the voice for it he's got to be in casino in some deleted scene

02:36:52.840 okay uh well in casino apparently joe pesci routinely uses anti-jewish slurs

02:37:01.640 he usually he does it but like he doesn't say any slur but i remember

02:37:04.760 one of the famous scenes where he's yelling because robert de niro's character is jewish

02:37:10.660 and because he's robert de niro of course he doesn't change any aspect of him he's actually

02:37:16.920 not a very good actor but we'll put that to the side but i remember joe pesci and enough of de

02:37:23.320 euro okay the the the creator of the dunca chino uh no sorry that's al pacino yeah hey

02:37:32.280 i i think i'm gonna send you a joe besci quote from uh what movie is this from uh this is from

02:37:40.520 casino uh not suitable for reading on air but you know i think we've all been there

02:37:46.120 oh yeah no that's the one i was gonna quote right because that's he he actually doesn't say any

02:37:55.160 particular slur for jewish people he just calls him a jew which is right so he's not like anti-semitic

02:38:02.280 he's just like describing him which is like he's calling the shots yeah um but uh yeah that's like

02:38:09.900 the scene in the desert but uh yeah joe like i don't even you got me thinking about robert

02:38:16.300 de niro i wanted to say that i've seen more good al picuno performances and i've seen

02:38:23.420 good robert de niro performances well it also feels like he is like the quintessential actor

02:38:33.020 in a negative way when he dies they're going to say that when he dies i'm going to say we lost

02:38:38.780 from the greats but then okay go watch wag the dog with him and what's his face he was in rain 0.92

02:38:47.420 man dustin hoffman i believe it was in that and it's like he sucks he's actually a lot of the

02:38:54.060 roles i've seen him in he's he's dog and he's just not good and he very clearly reads a teleprompter 0.89

02:39:00.300 when he's on camera a lot of people don't know but if you look into the you know behind the

02:39:05.340 the scene stuff like he's known for just for people who don't know what that means it means 0.87

02:39:09.100 that there's a fucking screen off camera and he's reading his lines which is to be just such a hack

02:39:14.980 move and you can if you look closely even in heat you i can see him his eyes moving in a weird way 0.98

02:39:23.820 sometimes as if he's reading his fucking lines so i i don't maybe alva chione does the same but he 0.89

02:39:30.700 covers it under enough relish and mustard that you don't notice it just drenched in uh drenched 0.98

02:39:39.900 in marinara yeah yeah well he did scent of a woman and never turned it off and he's just been

02:39:45.100 you know off the rails ever since frozen cons to the man uh we we've enumerated all of his

02:39:54.620 his numerous flaws being italian being involved in theater uh being insufficiently anti-semitic

02:40:04.300 uh and being short but i will say if we're talking about you know if there's one thing 0.98

02:40:12.940 we can say about him it's that even in his advanced age he does not have a vestigial penis 0.97

02:40:18.380 because didn't he just knock up his like 23 year old girlfriend not that long ago 0.98

02:40:23.020 we're talking about robert de niro right i think so was robert de niro i pretty because i know he

02:40:27.420 got a divorce from his wife and maybe that was related it was an odd time to get divorced so

02:40:34.220 late in life but yeah maybe i know al pacino is i i would believe that if you told me pacino did

02:40:40.140 just because he lives on a diet of cocaine and booze yeah okay robert de niro welcomes seventh

02:40:47.900 child at 79 like yeah look man enough like that's genetically impressive but he's got a bad track

02:40:57.820 record of fathering children so you look at him and you see another one of these

02:41:07.660 like how up is this one so his uh according to the bbc the probable mother is a woman named tiffany

02:41:17.500 chen what do you think her job is he went asian yeah he did he did the black and he went to the 0.95

02:41:26.540 asian okay it martial arts and str whoa yes yeah 100 whoa that is a she's got a german jaw does 0.96

02:41:36.540 she look at that i'm seeing a photo of her built like a ford just feel like a toyota tundra like 0.99

02:41:43.180 she she she's got a nice eastern european type head on her i mean honestly like she's like oh 1.00

02:41:50.860 she's an asian with eastern european heads like oh you mean like an eastern european okay

02:41:58.700 oh here's this one's in ralphia rafael de niro okay he looks he looks kind of like a normal 0.98

02:42:04.940 normal type of italian i mean these half blacks actually look sicilian but okay 0.93

02:42:09.100 i mean they're they're still together uh wow he looks old and he's out here's we were talking 0.99

02:42:18.700 about this before the show oh we were talking about maid of course and i was talking about my

02:42:23.900 grandmother who is in her mid-80s and she just had both of her hips replaced and she's a boomer and 0.99

02:42:31.420 that's why we were talking about boomers clinging to life you'll never get so many of these boomers 0.59

02:42:36.620 to go for maid because they have this grand spectacle for their end of life but i can't 0.58

02:42:43.500 imagine being in my mid 80s and getting double hip replacement if my hips are that bad i'm just

02:42:48.860 gonna be a guy who sits down i'm just gonna be a guy who doesn't stand ever and like i'm gonna

02:42:54.860 have this massive invasive surgery no i'm not doing nothing so the idea of being his age

02:43:01.660 but still going out and talk shows and having an opinion if i'm 85 i'm not having an opinion 0.94

02:43:07.200 publicly on shit i'm gonna have my guys in the diner or on the porch and we're just gonna talk 0.99

02:43:14.400 shit what the fuck am i doing in an audience of young people doing my like old man laugh 0.99

02:43:21.880 you ever been to like an old old timey like mechanic shop like i'll have these on farms 1.00

02:43:28.060 we have like a track in the roof with like a chain attached to it for like you know picking

02:43:34.680 up an engine out of a car and like moving it across the shop you should exclusively operate

02:43:40.600 on like old-timey gantries basically like just be like pulled around like a an anvil or like a

02:43:48.700 hunk of metal which is by chains you know just kind of wrapped under your arms or something i

02:43:53.080 feel like that's like a dignified way to to serve out your later years you know just like a horrific

02:43:58.640 uh like kind of meat puppet of a man uh yeah i can't wait yeah i mean again like as more and

02:44:07.160 more parts of you become vestigial you need to replace them with uh like uh chains and and

02:44:14.080 industrial equipment and uh yeah i mean i think it's just the only chains and like evil spikes 0.99

02:44:22.020 and shit i'm just like an 85 year old spawn becoming a real like industrial type motherfucker 0.98

02:44:32.540 in my winter years that is ironically what i would do because you talk about living a dignified life 0.99

02:44:39.920 i might go the other way i might be so old dignity don't mean shit to me i'm gonna be 0.99

02:44:45.220 an asshole when I'm A5, and you can't tell me nothing. 0.98

02:44:50.300 So, going back to this Robert De Niro, Kung Fu Girlfriend, the writing standards on Yahoo 1.00

02:45:02.380 Entertainment are astonishingly poor. So, I'm going to read you like one and a half paragraphs.

02:45:08.280 and yahoo has fallen it's over man the couple's age difference has been a controversial topic of

02:45:18.000 discussion among social media users across different platforms period tiffany chen and

02:45:23.780 robert de niro reportedly bear an age difference of 35 years period chen who is a martial arts

02:45:29.980 instructor hails from a kung fu family at the age of 26 she was inducted into a 2011 martial arts

02:45:38.780 magazine hall of fame so okay whatever that's not written super well okay let me say every photo i

02:45:45.080 see of this woman looks different so according to this this article times how tall do you think

02:45:57.540 she is reported as being and how tall is de niro reported as being because

02:46:03.300 i'm willing to bet just based on the tone and tenor of your question she's going to be

02:46:10.680 staggeringly taller than him would i be right in that assumption that is literally true if you look

02:46:17.280 at photos of them next to each other but this this magazine uh contends this magazine contends

02:46:25.900 that yeah okay I'm just gonna I'm gonna pull this up because I want to show that the claim being

02:46:33.700 made here right so uh shoot let me put this I got too many tabs Robert De Niro's personal life

02:46:40.600 pulled up this is real podcasting by the way we've devolved from what films have you seen

02:46:45.340 into celebrity drama okay so this is the couple right according to Yahoo she is 5'7 0.65

02:46:53.280 and he is five nine and a half fuck okay is there someone no someone's multiple people are lying

02:47:04.940 yes this will namely i don't think she's a real uh i think the martial arts family thing is that's 0.99

02:47:14.420 bullshit unfortunately look look at his posture there look at he's like he's telling it like it 0.80

02:47:19.840 is is that annoying yeah you think i'm thinking he's a tough guy still yeah yeah like even like 0.99

02:47:28.200 clint eastwood gets it clint eastwood's not at their top looking like he's gonna kick donald 0.97

02:47:32.480 trump's ass which is what denier probably really thinks oh don't you remember that this is probably 0.96

02:47:38.960 like 2023 or whatever where he like did some sort of press conference in new york where he just kind 0.99

02:47:45.620 did like an old man scream yelled about donald trump do you remember this happened yeah yeah

02:47:50.260 he hasn't stopped i've still seen like he'll go on colbert tomorrow and probably the same thing

02:47:58.500 and and every time we see something like this what we always do in our community is ask who

02:48:03.300 is this for it's not for us but who is this for who is watching this and getting reinvigorated

02:48:09.700 it can only be people his age i think it's either him or alternately uh 46 year old kung fu prodigies

02:48:18.900 it's for it's people it's old boomers or middle-aged asian women

02:48:26.980 which you know there's there's something to it i guess it's so funny their age difference 35 years 0.93

02:48:34.420 that sounds outrageous doesn't it but he's in his 80s i assume if you told me he was 103 i'd

02:48:41.140 believe it but let's say he's 80s she's 45 and it'd be so funny if they're still trying to make 0.94

02:48:46.580 this argument you hear all over the fucking economy of takes like he's predatory 1.00

02:48:52.900 the age gap is too much it's like she's still 40 fucking five years old you bitches 1.00

02:48:58.020 well and to be fair apparently she's a talented martial artist and he is also 90 and five feet 1.00

02:49:05.500 tall i tell you what i don't know the difference when a talented and untalented martial artist

02:49:10.940 i'm gonna keep it a buck i i i mean if you just show me if you show me someone doing a karate

02:49:18.700 kata fast enough i'm gonna think that's wild why isn't he fighting his way at the top of the

02:49:24.300 out right now i just i just i'm impressed by all of it dimes i just want i want to let it be known

02:49:31.200 compared to anyone who is 114 like robert de niro by comparison you are a kung fu master

02:49:41.560 because uh like you think you could break a brick well you karate chop uh you know grandma 0.70

02:49:50.860 and you will break her like a karate brick, just turn her into dust. And so maybe that's what her 1.00

02:49:57.120 specialty is, beating the elderly. In fact, it might be easier to crack an old woman's skull 1.00

02:50:04.260 than a brick, some say. Which, you know what? I think that the Canadian government has really, 0.99

02:50:11.480 they've gotten too focused on simply like the dying aspect of MAID. What they should do

02:50:18.340 is volunteer you for a fatal and still useful part of society they got made it's like being done 1.00

02:50:26.740 by all of these pudgy indians excuse the slur and what they you know fucking it up 1.00

02:50:34.560 gumming up the work screwing up the needles not finding a vein not doing it right 0.99

02:50:38.720 let me in there with my yellow belt and i'll expedite this whole thing i'll just karate chop 1.00

02:50:46.040 all of these dopes, these pinheads, these rubes 1.00

02:50:49.700 right into Valhalla. 0.99

02:50:53.240 Because they don't tell you that. 0.99

02:50:54.660 If you're killed by an Indian, you don't go to heaven. 1.00

02:50:58.020 You're reincarnated as a Pakistan. 1.00

02:51:02.580 If you're killed by an Indian, you don't go to heaven. 1.00

02:51:10.600 So on that point, Dimes, 0.99

02:51:12.680 Have you seen this just epidemic of horrific security cam footage of India where it just seems like their biggest natural predator is like one to three foot deep pools of water and uncoded power lines? 0.99

02:51:30.700 yeah like i haven't looked that deeply into it because i see stuff like that and everyone will

02:51:38.680 take it for granted that these are an unserious people dying in unserious ways i understand that

02:51:45.520 but i remember hearing about the train thing that there were so many videos of indians being hit by 0.98

02:51:50.840 trains in very obvious ways almost like they're doing it on purpose and then you learn that 0.70

02:51:56.820 there's and i don't know if this is true or not but you'd hear a story about how it's it's them

02:52:01.980 they got some kind of death cult thing about it some kind of uh cargo cult worship about it

02:52:08.180 there's something else going on it's not just ineptitude so point being that i look at this

02:52:14.300 stuff with them drowning in little pools of water and everything else i'm like okay is there some

02:52:19.620 strange indian reason for this is this part of a religion is this part of a ritual because it 0.99

02:52:27.480 almost seems too far that they would just be that stupid it would need to be stupid but purposeful 0.98

02:52:33.740 but i don't know yet and also and people are seemingly willing to accept any explanation at 0.99

02:52:40.320 all i'll ask grok pulling from a lie on reddit and i go yep that's what it is there was a movie

02:52:47.200 released about in india and then now they do it i don't know i just trade screenshots of tweets

02:52:54.160 like everybody else yeah well that's the that's the illusion of an audience right it's like oh

02:53:00.460 this this guy's people listen to him he must know what he's doing i'm like i don't know how to break

02:53:05.780 it to you uh in the past 45 minutes i've advocated for uh the extermination of old goats and a radical

02:53:13.040 new theory of evolution based off of uh exactly two and a half seconds of thought so i don't know

02:53:19.840 man at a certain point it's kind of on you for listening he's the great american thinker

02:53:26.080 they're calling him the great american thinker jay burden shoot from the hip just say just say

02:53:34.080 you can actually in fact just say i've made a middling career out of it but to go back 0.98

02:53:41.680 back one of your bits i stole right we didn't even get to that we're playing this stupid game 0.99

02:53:49.240 and you know as part of it's like you got the liberals you got the fascists the fascists 0.99

02:53:53.980 they look like donald trump so you gotta understand it's it's cutting social commentary

02:53:57.220 but the the whole objective of the game is to to get a certain number of policies so we're playing

02:54:03.740 the game isn't that fun and so as a secondary part of the game it's like well if you pass

02:54:08.160 liberal policy, you know, a limtar policy, if you will, you have to figure out, you know, like,

02:54:13.260 well, what is it? Like, what's the policy you passed? Similar with, you know, the fascist

02:54:19.320 policy. And, you know, I ended up passing a fascist policy, you know, it's just the cards I

02:54:25.200 drew. And so they're like, oh, what's your fascist policy? And I was like, you know what?

02:54:30.320 This is a bit I stole from you. Mandatory Second Amendment. Everyone at all times is forced to be

02:54:36.320 armed guy with down syndrome doesn't matter gun in each hand from birth and uh it killed let me

02:54:42.720 tell you it killed and it was good you know if i feel like i got my you know got some kind of

02:54:47.680 self-affirmation out of that but deep in my heart of hearts i'm like that's a four-year-old

02:54:52.120 blood satellite bit and i'll tell you what recycling it we tend to specialize in jokes

02:54:58.060 that make you think i bet all those people went away thinking you know what jay burton he was

02:55:03.980 onto something because who is going to be against down syndrome gentlemen with guns

02:55:10.860 find me a liberal that would be against that in principle i bet you can't find one

02:55:15.440 and if you find one you cleave them in half i want nothing i don't want to hear about them

02:55:21.960 walking around that's a great thing that anyone should like yeah you could run on that trump

02:55:28.140 should have run on that kamala could have run on that and she would we we'd we'd we'd be in

02:55:34.180 fucking north korea right now all i'm saying is there are certain opinions that if you hold them 0.93

02:55:43.760 if you express them in public you should be afraid to walk alone at night and i think one of them 0.97

02:55:53.680 is any sort of objection to the policy we just laid out like that that should be it should be

02:56:00.580 one of those things where it's like oh you know i i wrote a letter to the editor of the local

02:56:05.220 newspaper about that issue i hope no one uh puts me in a box truck puts me in lipstick and then

02:56:12.080 kills me uh that that should be the level of of just terror in opposing this this sensible yeah 1.00

02:56:18.420 And if people don't like that idea, how about I fucking shoot you? 1.00

02:56:23.440 Yeah. 1.00

02:56:24.100 Who might do bodies with Down syndrome?

02:56:26.460 I got an idea. 1.00

02:56:27.260 How about I shoot people until I get what I want? 0.99

02:56:31.560 It's a novel concept, but I think there's something to it. 0.99

02:56:35.000 Yeah. 0.88

02:56:35.420 That's what politics used to be.

02:56:38.380 You know, back when we used to be real countries where I said,

02:56:42.240 We're going to shoot people with weapons until they shape up or ship out, and we get what we want.

02:56:50.340 And then we stop doing that, and here we are. 1.00

02:56:53.000 Now every woman's obese. 0.88

02:56:56.120 And a God-fearing man with Down syndrome can't walk around with two guns surgically grafted to each of his palms.

02:57:04.820 And it's the death of the West.

02:57:09.140 Yahoo News has fallen.

02:57:10.340 and by the way we're gonna get we're gonna get the down syndrome guy with gun hands before a

02:57:17.300 woman president he's gonna be president first yeah i'd vote for that yeah because it's like

02:57:28.320 you know there's an honesty in it uh there's an openness to it there's uh there's the the sort of

02:57:35.800 like element of like you you're gonna tell him no you know and and honestly like you see that meme

02:57:45.420 you know from from uh mice and men right you're like oh look at the rabbits lenny well guess what

02:57:51.400 uh sometimes you need a good guy with a gun is all i'm gonna say yeah what what if the roles

02:57:57.100 are reversed what if lenny shot the other guy in the back of the head that's a happy one lenny shot

02:58:01.480 first yeah yeah why i don't know why you didn't do that everyone would love that ending

02:58:08.120 you see things it seems like every year there's some

02:58:11.960 disco about they're taking andrew jackson off the money to replace them with harriet tubman or they're 0.72

02:58:20.280 making something gay and black but what if you just wipe all that away it's goku on the money

02:58:29.000 that's the type of idea you'd be talking about with this guy and who's against that well you 1.00

02:58:34.600 shoot them and then you have america back see like this shit shit shit's ironic life is ironic and 1.00

02:58:43.240 it's simple if you let it literally simple uh in the case of you know our potential future president 1.00

02:58:50.680 And this is the thing, right? You have people, cowards, morons, idiots, who will present some kind of boring gay solution where it's like, oh, if you change this government program or you take this money over there, you do that with it, you return to a gold standard, you stop fighting wars for Israel. 1.00

02:59:20.140 that's all yay what we need is a man with a 65 iq and two loaded weapons at all moments and 1.00

02:59:30.060 i think that that's how we cut through all of these secondary concerns and get to what's really

02:59:35.100 matters which is uh killing goats when goku on the money yeah and uh yeah really that's it that's

02:59:43.580 That's all that matters.

02:59:44.520 Another year where Ron Paul is wheeled out to talk about returning to the gold standard.

02:59:51.500 And I'm voting for the guy who wants to get to the golden retriever standard.

02:59:57.580 Yeah, well, and I think what we're talking about, we should pardon, you're an advertising man.

03:00:03.220 You should pardon a rebrand for Ron Paul, which is, I think that your attitudes about aging are completely correct,

03:00:09.620 which is that we need to see that man uh in his we're gonna call it the spawn era

03:00:14.660 so uh it chains uh hooks kind of a hellraiser-esque aesthetic and i think that's really

03:00:23.800 what's going to revitalize his career like 08 didn't quite work 012 was probably a little bit

03:00:28.300 worse but this is the the cool rebrand that'll bring back the ron paul revolution by uh you know

03:00:35.580 kind of a aping a beloved comic book and that one movie character remember ron paul he did he's done

03:00:45.200 so many rebrands but he had one it was the word revolution and the word love within revolution

03:00:52.300 was highlighted in like pink yeah that's millennial core right there yeah and i just look at him i say 0.71

03:00:58.580 you're not about love what the fuck do you know what does ron paul know about love why is that 0.97

03:01:04.040 even in the mix shut up so enough you did the one big rebrand it fell flat on its face go away 0.99

03:01:12.540 he's old enough where he needs to plan well ahead of time his next getting up from the chair 0.70

03:01:20.560 and once you're doing that you should just get out of there you're gonna be sold you guys like

03:01:25.540 that like wind up to stand up and then that's a that's a bad position to be in if you're in 0.97

03:01:32.160 congress or driving a car or fucking anywhere again like i can't wait till i'm old i don't 0.94

03:01:36.940 need to do shit i don't even care if i like have money for retirement i'm gonna i'm gonna have a 0.97

03:01:43.540 porch even if there's no house attached to it and i'm gonna be a menace well i think that really 0.97

03:01:51.700 that's what sort of uh ties all of these themes you know whether it's you know your your end of 0.70

03:02:00.400 life care uh your your gay uh government ordered suicide uh all of these together it's that what 0.94

03:02:11.080 every man wants is sort of uh heads to the tails that is dying in a gay way it is living out your 1.00

03:02:20.760 your twilight years as a a plague upon this earth as a as a menace and you know what we were trash 1.00

03:02:28.440 talking robert de niro but he uh he sure is living out that nichean dream of just being a 0.53

03:02:39.580 menace so you know what maybe we're just maybe times we're just player hating you know we're

03:02:44.600 outside the club we're looking at a self-actualized 5-4 man and we just we hate it because we can't

03:02:51.720 have it oh yeah make no mistake i am a player hater i hate it all day i hate people i'm jealous 0.99

03:02:58.700 i'm bitter i hate people who have shit that i don't have i would i think i think i'm hating 0.97

03:03:03.820 him for the right reasons but it could be that he's living the dream and i also hate him the 0.99

03:03:09.020 exact same volume nothing's gonna nothing's gonna stop this jay you understand

03:03:15.480 i'm gonna keep and it's it's it's good it's good to make fun of people when they're old

03:03:26.140 because would you do that would do robert you know when he was younger no you could kick my 0.98

03:03:31.060 ass he can't kick my ass now you'll fall apart just like it's it's really good to call eminem 0.99

03:03:38.300 a corny loser now because he is and maybe he wouldn't do that when he's in his 20s he's 1.00

03:03:44.900 running around flashing a gun but never shooting it you know whatever it is doing cool stuff like 0.99

03:03:50.900 slaughtering women and nobody else the cool tough guy stuff like that but now like oh you know he's

03:03:58.520 kind of old he's kind of wiser and he's trying to you know look back on his past good now's the time 0.99

03:04:04.060 to just beat him with crowbars rhetorically of course call him a gay nerd what's he gonna do 0.96

03:04:10.440 fight you he can't and i think it should increase the older that he gets 0.98

03:04:18.200 the dimes we we are fast coming up on time uh and i guess we were i didn't know how much time yes

03:04:24.200 yes that's a good point i came here not to discuss any of that stuff i wanted to discuss a short

03:04:31.960 documentary that i released recently titled how to make a canadian people and it's available on

03:04:39.800 youtube and rumble and x and uh substack and well dimes here's what i would say

03:04:48.120 what are you next week what am i doing next week uh do you want to actually talk about that next

03:04:54.120 week yeah because yeah because you you kept this off in an hour we'll do that next week too yeah

03:04:59.960 this will be the sizzle reel for that i get you that we would just start that off there's no joking

03:05:06.600 around all were incredibly self-serious everyone's like is it the same guy like yes it is no

03:05:12.360 clarification needed i'm using a very dour irish accent both of us are it just gets worse and worse

03:05:23.580 much like robert de niro's attempted an irish accent which is the entire time holding back to

03:05:28.000 years um well like i said we'll have you on next week or whenever it's convenient for you

03:05:36.020 this was a ton of fun but in the meantime where can people find you yes my show is titled blood

03:05:41.720 satellite you can find that at bloodsatellite.ca we're also on youtube blood satellite clips um

03:05:48.300 on x at legally ironic and um i write for the vanguardist journal that's vanguardist

03:05:56.420 journal that's substack.com as we can also find the little show documentary that we're going to

03:06:01.940 be talking about next time in depth hey baby i hear the blues are calling tall salads and scrambled

03:06:09.320 eggs and maybe i seem a bit confused yeah maybe but i got you peg

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