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00:00:00.000 as far back as i can remember i always wanted to be

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00:00:18.200 yeah it's one of those january was the worst month because january is fight month but this is this

00:00:25.560 is something else month suck march yeah yeah and it was minus six today you you're just saying no

00:00:32.060 i forget what but something about fat people and i was uh shocked we just got our new family doctor 0.82

00:00:37.400 oh that's another story but we just got a new family doctor we went in there and it's like

00:00:41.720 first of all doctor's office there's nobody there but there's like three admin women sitting there 0.97

00:00:46.360 fucking around chatting with each other not looking at me i have all my kids health cards 1.00

00:00:50.900 standing there doctor's office they have so many assistants oh my god so many receptionists they 1.00

00:00:56.380 don't do fucking anything and all of these women were like easily 100 pounds overweight like 1.00

00:01:01.520 sickly obese and i've never seen them do a job the nurse comes in to get us like to the to go 1.00

00:01:07.580 to the doctor's office sickly obese and then like the other nurse comes in to like because it's our 0.83

00:01:12.600 first time there we gotta like get the get the weights and get the heights sickly obese like 0.87

00:01:17.020 there's gotta be i'm imagining you your your cheeks are bursting like a chipmunk with vomit 0.98

00:01:23.300 yes as you're filling out the forms imagine the smell yeah it was uh it was fucking wild 0.94

00:01:29.660 but the the plus side to this story was our doctor i won't show the it's really sad but 0.89

00:01:36.420 uh i don't want to send a photo of a friend of the building but our doctor is the only white

00:01:42.100 doctor in like two towns and she's actually was not accepting new patients and the only reason we

00:01:48.120 actually got her as a family doctor is because somebody else in my family uses her and like 0.94

00:01:52.740 poked and poked and poked and she's actually only part-time because she has a big family and she

00:01:57.400 works or she stays home mostly with her family so we actually got her to take us on as a family 0.96

00:02:02.000 doctor because every other doctor in this whole fucking county is either indian or chinese so 0.95

00:02:07.680 yeah and also you need these whisper networks to get in with some of these doctors like this is 0.98

00:02:12.860 another peek behind the curtain for people who are wondering what's like to live in canada

00:02:16.560 you cannot find a doctor a family doctor you can you can show up at a hospital and wait

00:02:22.980 well like but yeah i think i mentioned that before that we got when we moved here we got on that

00:02:27.920 wait list with the province like to help you find a family doctor like oh don't worry about it just

00:02:32.260 put your name in and that the thing that they had sent this was like six months ago they're like

00:02:36.720 we'll update you every three months to let you know if your spot in the wait

00:02:40.100 list has changed. First of all, they've never contacted me again,

00:02:43.800 but then, uh, like that's wild that you would have a wait list and we would,

00:02:48.700 we'll update you just to let you know if your spot has changed.

00:02:51.660 Like if over three months, your spot hasn't changed.

00:02:54.140 Think about what that means.

00:02:55.520 That means that nobody else in the wait list has found a doctor during that

00:02:58.600 period either. And this is a provincial list.

00:03:01.280 So like in a three month period,

00:03:03.040 sometimes not even one family finds a new doctor. 0.99

00:03:05.840 thanks province of ontario that's fantastic like what the fuck and that it drives me nuts because 1.00

00:03:12.120 left-wing americans and euros are like oh but you have universal health care fuck you i know this 1.00

00:03:16.920 is a beating a dead horse but canadian health care is absolute trash it is the worst it absolutely is 0.99

00:03:24.320 and um you know i did the exact same thing like i only found a doctor uh in ontario down where we 0.97

00:03:30.920 live because and here's I'm going to give you some advice people and this is the only time you're 0.83

00:03:36.160 going to hear me say this if you want to if you need to find a doctor you need to talk to a boomer

00:03:41.900 yeah and I hate to say this but every boomer in your area knows every doctor and you're going to 0.96

00:03:48.920 need them to recommend you to a good one part of it is just like they're what's remains of the

00:03:54.380 network right like it's not just that but like you know a dentist or like a hairdresser or whatever

00:03:59.500 they've been around in that area they will actually know them because like you know that

00:04:03.620 we're all too fucking atomized to to know anybody at this point okay i'm gonna say something i'm 0.97

00:04:10.160 gonna say everyone spread out give me a wide berth white guys don't know how to have a whisper 0.96

00:04:19.700 network i said it everyone else knows how to do it and i'll tell you this get ready for this so 0.98

00:04:27.180 to black people black people have it mastered to the point where it black people will always say 0.88

00:04:33.400 word on the street what's the word on the street what are the streets saying they know they got 0.97

00:04:38.660 their finger on the pulse white guys pride themselves by having their finger the farthest 0.99

00:04:44.960 distance possible away from the pulse you know what it is niggers of their finger on the pulse 0.98

00:04:50.260 white guys got their finger in the air we're checking the wind no really follow me okay no 0.97

00:04:56.140 here's the thing it's like fish can i just pause about let's let's just take in how smart and good

00:05:01.580 that was that's a that's a home run go on there it goes no it's like fish doesn't know swimming

00:05:09.400 in water right i i know what you're saying and i totally agree and i think the issue is that and 0.83

00:05:15.300 it's i don't think it's just because it's our society because i think whites will do this

00:05:18.040 everywhere but we are more because we're inclusive or like we we have the that nature that we try to

00:05:25.360 fight, but we kind of have a nature to be inclusive, to include everyone. If we're in a totally white 0.80

00:05:30.700 society, our whisper network is just out loud. You know what I mean? Because like you talk to 0.59

00:05:35.640 everybody in the village and everybody in the village is white. And here's the corollary of 0.97

00:05:38.900 that is in a low trust, but ethnically homogeneous society of blacks, for example, or Chinese. I know

00:05:45.900 this because I've lived in Hong Kong, even though it's a 98% Chinese society, they still have 0.99

00:05:51.180 quote-unquote whisper networks which is to say they still hide things from each other all the

00:05:55.660 time in a white society we don't need whisper networks because we actually just are neighborly

00:06:00.420 and we talk to each other the problem with that in a diverse society is if you go and talk to 0.98

00:06:05.120 everybody about what you're doing they're going to take it and add it to their whisper network 0.84

00:06:08.920 and now they have an advantage over you so it's like could say whites need to learn how to form 0.99

00:06:13.180 a whisper network or you could say we just need to get everybody else the fuck out of our society 0.99

00:06:17.700 so we can go back to speaking openly and cooperating with each other we need a whisper

00:06:21.560 network to accomplish that yeah yeah essentially but but i was thinking about today like you know

00:06:27.540 the last thing i would ever listen to is a white guy telling me the word on the street 0.96

00:06:31.420 we don't know what's going on in the street no we didn't know the problem is that black people 0.96

00:06:35.740 believe everything they hear on the street that's the flip side to that that you're gonna you're 0.99

00:06:41.240 gonna get a barf of every old thing create like a a gaslighting whisper network convincing blacks 0.73

00:06:49.460 to like wait bleach their chicken maybe maybe that's where they came from yeah where true where 0.77

00:06:57.900 are we at with that they do that right that wasn't just a meme i fell for i'm because i've seen them

00:07:02.140 do it but i don't know if that's them being funny i i would say that was a meme if it weren't for 0.95

00:07:07.700 the fact that i've seen so many of them like nyquil chicken and like powerade as a fucking 0.89

00:07:14.300 like as a chicken marinade i will say this the powerade thing i would chalk up to a southern 0.98

00:07:21.720 thing i could see so many like fat white guys in the south doing that nyquil black bleach 0.72

00:07:29.720 black as well i don't think white people would fall for that one it doesn't make sense because 0.95

00:07:34.880 that's something you do when you don't understand meat and white people especially rural people and

00:07:40.380 southern guys they get meat they understand they might not know everything but they understand 1.00

00:07:44.180 poultry and beef and shit i think black people don't really understand 1.00

00:07:48.560 meat like that and so that would make sense that they would bleach their chicken 1.00

00:07:52.720 i like that see this is our whisper network we we're figuring it out we're talking back and forth

00:08:00.360 our fingers are on our own pulses that's what having a podcast means

00:08:04.900 um i wanted to ask you something let's just kick this off

00:08:10.880 light have you ever seen a movie or a biopic based on a musician or a band that you liked

00:08:20.760 yeah uh do i have to like the movie or you mean i like the band or i like the movie like

00:08:26.920 the movie no i've never seen i've seen plenty where i like the band but i've never seen more

00:08:31.900 i actually like the movie yeah i was talking about this at work today and um because we're

00:08:37.460 talking about like oh bohemian rhapsody rocket man and all that and i'm like like i would never

00:08:42.360 want to put these movies on again and most of them i don't want to see the first time there's

00:08:46.740 one guy at work he's telling a tall tale about how he saw a movie i bet he never sees movies

00:08:52.620 by the way but he's talking to me he's like oh have you seen the dirt it's based on motley crew

00:08:57.640 he's like yeah yeah i love that movie man it's the best movie ever but it's so graphic and i'm

00:09:02.800 like you know what i'm gonna stop right there i did not i don't know much about motley crew

00:09:07.340 but what i do know is they're a band that is a little too in love with how many titties they've

00:09:13.940 been around and that's the big thing it's very much like you know like there's there's certain 0.98

00:09:20.020 if you're in high school there's certain kids who give up a vibe that they've had sex

00:09:25.020 and they they're like a badass kid molly crew always that that'd be guns and roses guns and 0.94

00:09:30.980 roses is an i've had sex 14 year old yeah but molly crew always gave me the vibe of like i've 0.98

00:09:37.800 never had sex 14 year old but he's telling everyone that he did yeah this is the like 0.98

00:09:43.260 Like, the entire story is, look how many girls I laid on top of. 0.95

00:09:49.340 And you know what?

00:09:50.100 I don't buy it.

00:09:52.300 I don't buy it for a second. 0.88

00:09:53.420 And by the way, how many titties have I touched? 0.95

00:09:57.160 Enough. 0.96

00:09:58.660 Yeah.

00:09:59.080 I'm not going to be up here telling me.

00:10:00.480 Tell you what.

00:10:01.260 There's a certain amount, and it's a pretty low amount.

00:10:03.600 Once you've touched them, you've touched them all.

00:10:06.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:06.840 You've got to consider the law of tit-minishing returns.

00:10:09.900 Tit-minishing returns.

00:10:11.940 Every guy knows I'm talking. 0.98

00:10:13.260 Maybe touch a few, touch a handful of titties. 0.98

00:10:18.220 That's what I'm saying. 0.75

00:10:19.140 But you know what? 0.58

00:10:19.840 There's no new titties under the sun. 0.99

00:10:22.480 So I'm not going to watch a whole fucking band talking about all that. 0.99

00:10:24.920 Like, I call horseplay on that whole band. 0.99

00:10:28.620 Call horseplay.

00:10:30.320 Yeah, you touched one.

00:10:31.180 You touched them all.

00:10:31.840 I don't care about your black silk shirt with the top three buttons undone. 0.99

00:10:34.540 What are you trying to fucking hide? 0.99

00:10:36.620 Yeah. 0.99

00:10:37.580 Who do they think they are?

00:10:38.540 I know who I am.

00:10:39.340 Do they know who I am? 1.00

00:10:40.080 that's the real question while there's all this the chicanery is going on i see in real time in 1.00

00:10:46.440 the real world people coming around on radiohead what do you think about that yeah i mean that's 0.99

00:10:51.520 special i mean that's its cause for celebration you want to talk about white guy shit the song 0.95

00:10:58.300 and music video for street spirit off the album the bends by radiohead i'm watching it in my head 0.99

00:11:05.660 right now oh that's that's just for white guys yeah for real

00:11:09.760 black people don't know what to do with that asian people will be scared 0.99

00:11:26.620 you show that to an old asian woman she's gonna start throwing tea bags at it 1.00

00:11:31.920 probably would you think it's the ring or something 1.00

00:11:35.660 you show that music video to a cream lady she just goes no no no no no and it's not because

00:11:44.380 people don't like radiohead don't say that it's a great great album okay radiohead's a band not 0.59

00:11:50.180 an album see this is this is why i gotta call you out on something people think i'm bullying you

00:11:54.040 no talk about the bends okay you i thought you were saying radiohead the album you think i am

00:11:59.560 radiohead's strongest soldier what do you mean i no way okay well guess what i'm radiohead's top

00:12:04.480 guy what do you think about that fine fine all right we can we can come to terms this is the

00:12:09.360 black muscly arm and the white muscly arm coming together i think the best testament to our

00:12:16.520 generation is just describing it while no longer describing what movie that's from

00:12:20.500 it's the meme muscly arms right yeah you know the one all right so i'm moving on to the next thing

00:12:28.120 this is important we got a stacked episode today this is going to this is going to be a dog fight

00:12:35.100 okay so this game across my desk you probably saw this in the chat it is the uh cultural

00:12:42.680 competence training test so we gotta i'm just gonna go through this you've seen it so i'm gonna

00:12:51.220 i'm gonna read what it is then i'm gonna hear what you what you would pick so so people don't

00:12:56.960 understand this is apparently a test that was handed out i don't know if it was handed out to

00:13:01.800 anyone in the chat or if this is like a being passed around but so it's a piece of paper

00:13:08.760 by this company called it looks like oasis but it's away sass another made-up name so

00:13:15.800 the activity is called whom to leave behind so i'm going to read the beginning of this

00:13:21.660 the 12 persons listed below have been selected as passengers on a spaceship for a flight to

00:13:28.860 another planet because tomorrow the planet earth is doomed for destruction due to changes in space

00:13:34.620 limitations it has now been determined that only eight persons of this 12 may go any eight of the

00:13:41.840 following qualify your task is to select the eight passengers who will make the trip out of the

00:13:47.000 entire list so i know this is difficult for people because it's this is audio so close your eyes

00:13:52.880 and imagine me going on this and also imagine the people first an accountant with a substance abuse

00:14:00.200 problem now i don't want to put the cart before the horse but that's a yes from me right away

00:14:04.780 it doesn't need to be yours but i think we're all on the same page here okay number two a militant

00:14:10.640 african-american medical student number three a 33 year old female native american manager 1.00

00:14:19.300 who does not speak english that sounds i've never seen what the fuck does he speak then 0.98

00:14:25.160 that's crazy yeah uh number four the accountant's pregnant wife number five a famous novelist with 0.99

00:14:34.440 a physical disability uh number six a 21 year old female muslim international student

00:14:43.180 uh next one a hispanic clergyman who is against homosexuality a female movie star who has

00:14:53.320 who was recently the victim of a sexual assault um now everyone just don't simmer down for this

00:15:01.280 next one a racist armed police officer who has been accused of using excessive force

00:15:07.480 a gay male professional athlete comma vegetarian an asian orphan 12 year old boy

00:15:16.240 a 60 year old jewish university administrator that's the last one yeah now the last one

00:15:24.220 sounds like a slur to me i don't know how to describe it but i feel like that one was put

00:15:29.640 their like no one's picking that guy yeah i know right that's so weird i wonder if they thought

00:15:35.420 it's so obvious that you can't you're not allowed to leave the jew behind it they can make the jew 0.65

00:15:39.540 as onerous as bottom like they could have said a jewish pedophile right like well obviously i have 0.95

00:15:47.080 to bring the jew i mean it's well it's like you know the would i choose pedophile over university 0.91

00:15:52.040 administrator or is that redundant these are the questions that i'm asking yeah and the answer is

00:15:57.680 Yes, it's redundant, yeah.

00:15:58.960 Now, intrepid listeners of this show

00:16:01.280 might discern that,

00:16:03.180 oh, that's the only correct answer.

00:16:05.220 Like, this isn't what I would pick,

00:16:06.960 this is what the test giver wants me to take,

00:16:10.140 so of course, and that's the only one I bring.

00:16:12.500 So what are your thoughts?

00:16:13.540 Now, do you have a list of the ones you would bring?

00:16:16.540 Well, I responded in the chat already,

00:16:18.480 half-jokingly, that I bring the accountant

00:16:20.620 and his wife and everyone else dies.

00:16:22.700 And I joke, obviously, that's only two people.

00:16:24.540 But you know who I would leave behind, 1.00

00:16:26.000 And I think that's all should be equally as obvious as you leave behind, uh, the, the gay, uh, the nigger, uh, the Jew and, uh, who was the other one? The gay, the nigger, the Jew. Oh, and the cop. And I, that was, was frustrating because everybody wants to bring the fucking cop because he's a racist. My point was, look, everybody's fucking racist. This guy's just openly racist. And while that's cool, why the fuck would you bring a cop? 1.00

00:16:54.220 like he's a fucking retarded knuckle-dragging narcissist with a fucking complex don't bring 1.00

00:17:01.460 cops you should you should be mean to cops also you didn't bring this up but you did trigger a 1.00

00:17:08.340 thought i didn't say it was a white cop right it could be a maori cop could be a vietnamese cop

00:17:15.260 right do you really want a racist vietnamese guy i mean i do but i know that i'm in the

00:17:21.340 fringe of this he he could be he could be a a malaysian cop but by that i mean an officer of

00:17:28.700 the malaysian police force can you imagine bringing him on a spaceship he'd be so confused

00:17:34.320 it'd be bad for everyone you made you have even worse a white cop who is a member of the malaysian

00:17:39.580 police force i might actually bring that guy though i don't know we need a wild card yeah

00:17:45.180 um i think you caught on to the real test of the right wing dissident right mind which is to say

00:17:51.920 do i need to bring eight

00:17:53.640 so for me my um i said this in the chat but uh my pick is um the racist armed police officer

00:18:04.460 with who's been accused of using excessive force the accountant's pregnant wife and see ya 0.99

00:18:12.380 it's just us three you fucking god god damn it i mean either way the wife gets to come i guess 0.99

00:18:22.120 yeah she's she's good i think look and that's it everything else is just it's to fog the issue 0.99

00:18:28.820 jesus christ everyone everyone who here's who i know everyone who actually tried to make it to

00:18:35.240 failed the test yeah yeah oh man okay so dissident right challenge don't kill everyone arbitrarily

00:18:44.620 difficulty level impossible right don't blow up the entire craft with you also in it 0.78

00:18:50.860 this whole existence is cringe i also said i i would debate bringing the jew along if only so 0.90

00:18:58.760 that the rest of us could throw him out of the airlock later for laughs 0.79

00:19:01.880 see the funny thing is like i looked at this test um if it indeed it is real but i looked at it and

00:19:12.500 it was you know a cultural competency test and as much as we might laugh i'm seriously wondering

00:19:19.500 what is this supposed to prove there must be a correct cluster of answers or an idea like they

00:19:27.420 know even if there's not a right answer they know the most wrong answer and that's really what you're

00:19:33.960 being judged on yeah and i'm like i i don't know like what would the right answer be like it can't

00:19:40.700 just be you know we're joking but it's not just like taking the jew right well it seems what is

00:19:45.000 the right one it's the it's like whatever the oppression spectrum or whatever right like i

00:19:49.680 think it might be serious like obviously you're not supposed to bring the cop obviously you're

00:19:54.400 not supposed to bring the um the homophobic priest who actually at the top you're probably

00:20:00.280 not supposed to bring the accountant either and i don't know who the fourth pick would be but

00:20:04.440 like with this stuff it's always or it tends to be quite on the nose right like there's certain

00:20:10.340 choices they just you know what it is it's just like they want you to recite that you you are

00:20:14.800 down with the narrative in order to whatever get a job join a club i don't know in what context this

00:20:20.820 exam would be delivered yeah here's what i think they're trying to get at and this is just shooting

00:20:27.460 from the hip on this one you'll notice that the ones that we're kind of laughing at there is no

00:20:33.120 race assigned so the accountant his wife and the police officer and the movie star are the only

00:20:41.340 ones without and the novelist i guess are the only ones without a race i think what they might be

00:20:46.840 gunning for with this test is you're supposed to select all the ones where the race is identified

00:20:51.440 because like i want we need a cluster of races that represent the world so i think the quote

00:20:59.440 unquote right answer is i picked the african-american hispanic because it's it's not like

00:21:03.920 there's a bunch of black every non-white is a specific other race and it runs pretty much the

00:21:09.840 entire spectrum like and i assume by muslim they mean arab muslim like it's not like a white muslim

00:21:15.520 but it's like, okay, Jew, Asian, Black, Hispanic, Muslim,

00:21:20.420 you know, there, that's probably what you need to pick

00:21:22.880 because everything else is just career.

00:21:26.400 And I think you would get in trouble

00:21:29.620 if you picked based on job rather than identity.

00:21:33.120 That's my interpretation of this.

00:21:36.780 All right, so moving along.

00:21:39.180 I wanted to briefly shine a light on a good,

00:21:44.080 around here we call them ikea bits so this is a bit you all need to build yourselves at home

00:21:51.320 but we're gonna give you the parts and you had this bit it's just the germ of an idea

00:21:57.480 but i like it so much i think we can come back to this and workshop it but you we're going back and

00:22:04.060 forth and we had come up with this idea it's like um you being in prison but being pissed off that

00:22:10.660 automating the prison labor i don't know i just thought that was a good a good bit i don't know

00:22:18.060 it needs needs work i need something but as a a log line i like that yep yeah yeah like the young

00:22:26.920 like you're in jail you're in the shawshank redemption and you're starting a revolution

00:22:31.540 a worker's strike within the prison because they're not letting they're not employing your

00:22:36.580 slave labor enough yeah convict luddites that's wild anyway so you guys take that and run with it

00:22:45.360 i don't have the gas in the tank get it get back to us by tuesday at the latest so that we can 0.99

00:22:52.660 include it in the show for free no credit what the fuck did you just fucking say about me you 0.98

00:22:58.860 little nerve iron i'll have you know i graduated top of my class in the first council and i've 0.97

00:23:04.920 been involved in numerous secret raids on the dwemer and i have over 300 confirmed corpus

00:23:10.360 minions i am trained in akalakon warfare and i'm the top lord high counselor in the entire sixth 1.00

00:23:16.960 house you are nothing to me but just another ash slave i will wipe you the fuck out with precision 1.00

00:23:22.240 the likes of which has never been seen before on nirn mark my fucking words the blight storm that 1.00

00:23:28.360 wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life you're fucking dead and wah i can be anywhere 1.00

00:23:33.900 anytime and i can kill you in over 700 ways there's an article i think you might have seen 1.00

00:23:41.940 this as well but there was an article that i had read in ctv news from toronto uh here's the

00:23:48.920 headline two-thirds of younger women in ontario are living with a mental health condition survey

00:23:56.280 suggests with me now is dp sir the ceo of the ontario association of social workers good

00:24:02.420 morning glad you could be with us thanks for having me hello so walk us through the findings

00:24:09.460 two-thirds of younger women are living with mental health conditions what does that tell you

00:24:16.020 well it's rather alarming it made me sit up and take notice certainly that over 66 percent of

00:24:22.020 women between 18 and 35 are suffering with a number of issues like sadness and depression

00:24:27.860 and isolation and some of them are even going undiagnosed and so we know we've got to find ways

00:24:33.500 to support these young women the survey of 1265 adults found that 44 percent of respondents either

00:24:42.100 have a diagnosed mental health condition or believe they are living with an undiagnosed

00:24:47.320 mental health condition but a young among younger women ages 18 to 35 the percentage of respondents

00:24:54.500 who said that they were dealing with mental health challenges was much higher approximately 66 percent

00:25:00.080 of the group said they had a diagnosed or undiagnosed mental health condition and some

00:25:05.380 people will immediately hear that and say oh one half of them is lying or it's you know they're

00:25:11.720 prescribing themselves but i'm like i don't really see a difference when it because when it comes to

00:25:17.580 mental health stuff unless it's something very extreme like schizophrenia all you need to do is

00:25:23.460 hop around to a psychologist and just it's based on you they're prescribing your words and your

00:25:28.600 opinions the easiest thing in the world is to get prescribed adderall the easiest thing in the world 1.00

00:25:34.220 is to get meds for this shit because you fucking make it up so to me undiagnosed and diagnosed 0.99

00:25:39.760 are essentially the same realm of mental illness yep yep this is phys ed and this is homeroom 1.00

00:25:49.400 And that means juggling a lot of roles for Amy Worrell.

00:25:53.620 Mother, teacher, lunch maker, gym teacher, spouse, you know, and it just starts to get really tiring.

00:26:02.900 And when you want to take a break, there's really nothing you can do to take a break because it's COVID.

00:26:09.160 Worrell's kids are doing virtual classes.

00:26:11.360 Her husband is also working from home.

00:26:14.120 She says on dark days, she's lucky he's there.

00:26:17.080 I pulled a crayon out of the washing machine today, and I almost went into the dryer, and that almost was like it, right?

00:26:24.880 And he's like, okay, you know, take a breath, go to another room.

00:26:31.560 When you want to take a break, there's really nothing you can do to take a break. 1.00

00:26:36.740 Woman alert. 1.00

00:26:39.940 The release of the survey coincides with International Women's Day.

00:26:47.080 it's quoting here a woman by the name of dp sir the ceo the ceo of ontario association of social

00:26:57.580 workers um she says it's an alarming situation that makes me want to sit up and take notice and

00:27:03.640 hope that the rest of the country is doing the same because women in particular were certainly

00:27:08.420 very impacted by many issues stemming out of the pandemic including sadness loneliness anxiety

00:27:14.960 isolation and depression i worry that if we don't find a way to address this we're really

00:27:19.940 affecting adults and women in particular you know there's if i'm taking the mig tau

00:27:25.680 route here like we can do the low-hanging fruit that literally everyone went through the same

00:27:30.260 thing everyone went through the exact same trials and tribulations during the pandemic

00:27:34.700 um also the way she words that is is i don't know what else you call you call bureaucrat speak 0.89

00:27:41.760 i deal with this every single fucking day and it makes me want to do a genocide any genocide that's 0.97

00:27:48.700 the thing i don't really i'll do a genocide on white people when i read i want to have like a 0.99

00:27:52.720 reverse touring test where if humans write copy that sounds like chat gpt they should be fired

00:28:00.760 and i'm saying fired because i don't want to say other things but they should be fired i don't want

00:28:05.100 people to keep writing things that sound like they were written by chat gpt yeah so people if

00:28:10.220 people are wondering exactly what i'm talking about this sentence here and you'll get a sixth

00:28:13.460 sense for it if you really because you're probably it gets blended in with the rest of the words and 0.99

00:28:18.200 it doesn't leap out at you like a scorpion sting but so it says um in particular where women in

00:28:28.000 particular were certainly very impacted like right there it's certainly very impacted by many issues

00:28:34.160 stemming out of so like as we're going you're not actually identifying an issue you're saying

00:28:39.140 there's a cluster of issues that may have affected coming out of this one vague thing and i don't

00:28:44.940 know this is just a tangent no one needs to listen to but this is just a a cauldron of impotent rage 0.97

00:28:52.600 i keep simmering inside of me at all times like whenever i see this shit there's people who this 0.96

00:28:57.600 is all they talk like and i deal with them every day and there's guys out there who work blue 0.98

00:29:03.660 collar jobs real men as we've said half of our listenership is eastern europeans half of them

00:29:11.660 is cowboys and half of them is black women that's the three so there's a lot of people who never 0.71

00:29:19.680 have to deal with this and they listen to this and chuckle now imagining living in an existential 0.64

00:29:25.300 prison where people unironically talk like this to you every day every statement is just is as

00:29:33.400 tamped down and made gray yeah you know it's like i i don't know why i do this to myself

00:29:40.600 i was listening to the recent appearance of sam harris on lex friedman's uh show dude

00:29:50.120 you know right you're a masochist i mean it is amazing but you could find phds and mds who would

00:29:57.560 sit up there in front of congress and say that they thought smoking was not addictive you know

00:30:02.600 or that it was not harmful to you know there was no direct link between smoking and lung cancer

00:30:08.120 you could always find those people and you can and so but you know some of the people brett found

00:30:14.040 were people who had obvious tells to my point of view to my eye i mean and i saw them on some of

00:30:19.960 the same people were on rogan's podcast right and um and it's hard because if a person does have the

00:30:28.920 the right credentials, and they're not saying something floridly mistaken, and we're talking

00:30:35.700 about something where there are genuine unknowns, right? Like, how much do we know about the safety

00:30:42.040 of these vaccines, right? It's, at that point, not a whole hell of a lot. I mean, we have no

00:30:46.880 long-term data on mRNA vaccines. But to confidently say that millions of people are going to die

00:30:53.540 because of these vaccines and to confidently say that ivermectin is a panacea right ivermectin is

00:30:59.700 the thing that prevents covet right there was no good reason to say either of those things at that

00:31:04.820 moment and that's and that and so given that that's where brett was i felt like there was there

00:31:10.820 was just no there was nothing to debate we were both the wrong people to get beginning into the

00:31:15.060 weeds on this we're both going to defer to our chosen experts his experts look like crackpots to

00:31:22.420 me why why do i do this i have things i could be doing i decided to listen sam harris he does this

00:31:30.360 thing and all these people do this where once you realize that sam harris fakes his pauses

00:31:36.300 and this contemplative you know he's looking down and it looks like he's thinking about what he's

00:31:42.360 saying but you'll notice that what emerges from that silence and that contemplation is nothing

00:31:48.360 it's like this it's like he's talking basically trying to cope about he got everything wrong on

00:31:54.980 the pandemic and everything wrong on russiagate and so no joke it was like a 15 minute monologue

00:32:02.420 he did basically saying that yes i was wrong but trump was a bad guy like the scott adams type

00:32:09.740 thing but without the the the kamikaze essence of scott adams but i'm like imagine if everyone

00:32:17.120 in your life was sam harris now welcome to my world you are now a cenobite yeah um and that 0.51

00:32:27.860 so this is true this is a true study um what's going on with women and then there is a graph

00:32:35.660 here i got my hands on and it was a graph mapping the uh depression scores by gender and politics

00:32:44.880 and i pulled this i'm going to do a bit of reading from this as well to add some more context

00:32:49.280 this is from jonathan height's substack called after babble um the this was published march 9th

00:32:57.900 by john height uh the title is why the mental health of liberal girls sank first and fastest

00:33:04.500 so and there's a graph in here starting at 2005 and it's got the genders and so there's four

00:33:12.160 lines here both genders and then both you know liberals and conservatives and it pretty much

00:33:18.940 shows what you would expect that female liberals are at the high high high of depression male

00:33:24.740 conservatives are actually at the lowest the funny thing is and this isn't going to be the big thing

00:33:30.540 but maybe you can comment on this it goes from 20 2005 up until 2018 so male conservatives

00:33:38.280 track against female conservatives right they're about the same level but male conservatives are

00:33:43.320 higher on depression than at some point 2016 they flip and female conservatives become more

00:33:49.940 depressed and the male conservatives start to dip down and i'm choosing to interpret this as them 0.99

00:33:56.040 becoming just joker pilled for lack of their term lack of like you know what fuck it maybe that's it 0.99

00:34:04.760 I don't know. 0.99

00:34:05.580 Like, they're the ones, like, they're going down depression because, like, they were on the ball the entire time.

00:34:11.060 But now they're like, yeah, you know what?

00:34:12.180 Let it burn.

00:34:13.000 That's what I choose. 0.92

00:34:13.800 What do you think?

00:34:14.320 Well, also, 26 was, sorry, 2016, right?

00:34:17.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:18.100 Yeah, well, that was the Trump thing.

00:34:19.160 That was the big turnaround where we felt for once like somebody was in our corner.

00:34:24.040 Totally false.

00:34:25.180 Didn't amount to anything.

00:34:26.560 But, I mean, there was a huge number of people in 2016 who were riding this train with no brakes, right?

00:34:31.700 so yeah i think it's reasonable to think that people who would identify in a public survey 0.92

00:34:36.060 as a conservative like a bunch of fucking rubes that they would say yeah i mean i felt much better 0.97

00:34:41.340 in 2017 than i did in 2015 yeah because i mean we already we had all of the gamer gate shit prior 0.99

00:34:47.200 to that where it seemed like everybody's getting beat up but then when trump came around it seemed

00:34:52.100 all right for a couple of years so yeah so i'm just going to read some from this article why

00:34:58.900 mental health liberal sank first and fastest so it's interesting so he's talking about uh this

00:35:04.540 guy he knows and greg lukianoff and um it's got a paragraph here uh greg is prone to depression

00:35:11.640 and after hospitalization for a serious episode in 2007 he learned uh cbt he learned about c

00:35:19.140 maybe i should say he learned about cbt but it says he learned cbt which means cognitive behavioral

00:35:25.160 therapy and cbt you learn to recognize when your ruminations and automatic thinking patterns

00:35:31.100 exemplify one or more of about a dozen quote cognitive distortions such as catastrophic

00:35:38.180 catastrophizing black and white thinking fortune telling or emotional reasoning thinking in these

00:35:44.660 ways causes depression as well as being a symptom of depression breaking out of these painful

00:35:50.060 distortions is a cure for depression i'm not sure i i don't know about this get something

00:35:56.140 if if you say something is a cause and a symptom of the thing you're diagnosing

00:36:01.380 should that be reworked like it sounds like something is cancer and causes cancer you know

00:36:07.200 i mean like that doesn't track well i mean i mean not that it is but it's a it's a cause and

00:36:13.500 a symptom it just means it's a positive feedback loop you know you could say like like being being

00:36:18.680 being fat fucks with your liver and having a bad liver makes you fat so you know it's cyclical i

00:36:25.840 don't know it kind of kind of makes sense depends on the context so like if they're saying like 0.98

00:36:30.440 these bad thoughts make you depressed and depression gives you bad thoughts i guess

00:36:35.860 we're kind of in like tautology territory here but yeah yeah um here's the line here after examining

00:36:42.620 the evidence including the fact that the same trends happen at the same time in britain canada

00:36:48.620 and australia uh the person who was running this test goldberg concluded that technology

00:36:55.500 not politics was what changed in all these countries around 2012 that was the year that

00:37:00.740 facebook bought instagram and the word selfie entered the popular lexicon um journalist matt

00:37:08.180 iglesias also took up the puzzle why liberal girls became more depressed than others and in a long

00:37:13.360 sub stack post he described what he had learned about depression from his own struggle okay so

00:37:17.560 apparently everyone in this is also depressed um okay here's so here's what matt iglesias has to

00:37:25.820 say we're living in a late stage capitalist hellscape during an ongoing during an ongoing

00:37:33.340 deadly pandemic with record wealth inequality zero social safety 1.00

00:37:37.540 oh and now he quotes taylor lorenz so okay so i should have read this first this is dumb faggot 0.99

00:37:45.640 shit trying to make sense this is i should the graphs are correct um if you are however quoting 0.99

00:37:55.060 matt iglesias and taylor lorenz in your sub stack uh fuck off jonathan height maybe we're all 1.00

00:38:02.340 depressed because john height is so fucking gay we wish he would shut up well here's the other 0.99

00:38:08.060 thing where i'm gonna go return to what he had said which is that these are a symptom of depression 0.99

00:38:14.940 and also the cause of depression and i don't buy that and i really want to dig into why and i think

00:38:20.780 you'll probably agree with me but i'm thinking like catastrophizing okay what is that what is

00:38:26.060 catastrophizing thinking that a catastrophe is going to happen well there are catastrophes

00:38:31.600 happening is that what that is though that well i said well it's also like okay like our people

00:38:38.660 what these this group the people he's quoting would also believe that COVID-19 was a real

00:38:45.440 catastrophe so in a sense they are the ones catastrophizing it for everybody else so if

00:38:53.960 you could also say if uh liberal women are feel like they're living in panic-stricken dire

00:39:01.000 circumstances well that's because of Jonathan Haidt that's because of Matthew Iglesias that's 0.91

00:39:07.180 because of taylor the wrens all keeping their my their emotional states hostage for three years

00:39:13.960 you know what i mean and then on the flip side our catastrophizing is saying like oh my god the 1.00

00:39:19.220 government's full of fucking idiot lunatics and they're trying to imprison people like like when 1.00

00:39:23.940 you were in when you were in hong kong and they were throwing entire families into shipping 1.00

00:39:29.720 containers in the summer and you were running the very real risk of you randomly you you judas

00:39:36.020 my intrepid co-host being thrown in a shipping container like would you be catastrophizing by

00:39:43.280 saying oh my god this could get way worse you know what i mean like yeah yeah it's are you

00:39:49.160 catastrophizing if you are looking at the data around you and saying this is all going to go 0.93

00:39:54.540 to shit very soon i think that's that's kind of why i asked a minute ago what what is this word

00:39:59.280 mean i'm not familiar with this so i mean if you're saying if catastrophizing means interpreting 0.97

00:40:04.800 stimuli as a catastrophe then it would apply equally as a as a cause of depression whether

00:40:12.500 or not the situation is or is not actually a catastrophe because like i actually did live in a

00:40:18.320 in a catastrophe and i did i can feel how that would make you depressed i don't know whether i

00:40:23.340 was depressed or whether i still am but i know i could get that feeling but it also makes sense

00:40:29.160 that people who are already paranoid lunatics would quote unquote catastrophize anything like

00:40:35.300 covid in the absence of any data whatsoever blow this whole thing up so yeah i'm looking at another

00:40:43.600 graph he's got here um so there's this figure figure three this is a graph that's um like

00:40:53.120 charting the people's belief in this one statement the statement is whenever i try to get ahead

00:40:59.760 something or somebody stops me and it's charting the responses from 1976 up into 2020 for girls

00:41:10.040 and boys and back in 1976 like the girls were at like 40 percent and the guys were at 46 percent

00:41:20.460 and then it's rose to around like 60 of both say that's the case that's bullshit this just shows

00:41:28.600 that this this data doesn't mean anything because the reality is it probably has doubled for men and

00:41:33.400 it's probably cut in half for women yeah so it just means that if this is all just you know

00:41:38.600 self-diagnosis and it's bullshit well it could but it's also like a belief where it's like okay 0.92

00:41:44.180 what's happened since 1976 what's happened to like white guys who try to get ahead something 0.98

00:41:51.100 stops you like we're in 2020 if you're a white person no i don't know it doesn't really break

00:41:57.740 down the race of the respondents but i agree i'm just saying the fact that it tracks it tracks

00:42:03.340 without race it tracks for gender but the gender relations have changed greatly over those past

00:42:09.220 you know those five decades so the fact that they track like linearly in over five decades to me

00:42:14.680 just suggests the data is garbage yeah because we know that we know that the the relationship 0.92

00:42:20.080 between genders has not tracked linearly for 50 years that's fucking insane it's been the opposite 0.98

00:42:25.660 of that is true that's like that like you said it is self-reported where the women despite 0.82

00:42:29.860 all the social capital that females have accrued since the time they still think there's men

00:42:36.700 standing in their way which is right kind of what we're getting at here but um yeah this is

00:42:42.020 it sounds like they're just it sounds like he's just blaming this on technology i don't think you

00:42:50.860 can because he's also got a tweet here like what do you think is the minimum age people should be

00:42:55.420 allowed to get online it's like 18 like i i don't think that's it like i and this is something you

00:43:02.980 here coming out of like well this is what you hear coming out of the intellectual dark red we

00:43:07.040 want to talk about sam harris you want to talk about jordan pierce and all these guys

00:43:10.200 they're all pretty much saying the same thing and i i don't think they were saying this the

00:43:16.980 entire time but it sounds like every even kind of right of center what do we call them intellectuals

00:43:24.900 i don't know but these these figures and talking heads they all seem to be beating the same drum

00:43:29.460 and that drum is technology is the problem and i'm wary of accepting that because i'm like i don't

00:43:35.860 think that's really the problem actually i think technology as you see with our scene is the only

00:43:42.320 thing that's helped medicating the problem because it allows us to at least untether ourselves a bit

00:43:48.300 from the bullshit we deal in our everyday lives and talk like real people online you know what i

00:43:53.720 mean so it's like you know what when like jordan peterson is war against trolls yeah well i mean 0.87

00:43:59.840 it is but it is it's but it's like is it selfies maybe but i don't know what do you think what

00:44:10.280 am i am i going into my direction on this i think we should roundhouse kick the internet

00:44:16.220 into a garbage can i love that meme i love it that's my favorite right now no but i um

00:44:22.680 i i every year that passes i feel more comfortable with the idea of like an emp apocalypse and and

00:44:33.080 we lose all digital technology for 500 years um i i really do and it's not that i think i can put

00:44:39.960 my finger on any one thing that's like the worst with technology and i'm talking when i say

00:44:45.320 technology i'm mostly talking about the inner about interconnected digital technology i think

00:44:49.780 there are so many things that are so bad and it's not that we know how bad they are the problem is

00:44:54.800 we don't know how bad they are if we knew how bad they are we'd be able to do something but they're

00:44:59.180 still even on our side well not dependent on you but the fact that even you as reasonable as you

00:45:05.220 are aren't certain enough that it's bad that you're willing to accept it because you can see

00:45:10.740 the tangible benefits like i feel like that's the this is the play that's going on right now it's

00:45:16.060 like um it's like an opportunity cost thing where it's like each of us individually can see all

00:45:21.760 these tangible benefits but there's all of this cancer everywhere and we can't quite pin down

00:45:26.600 where the cancer is coming from i have a very strong hunch that it's mostly related to digital

00:45:32.380 technology to the way that we interact with it to like dopamine loops and things like that and

00:45:37.200 in in view of the possibility that we never know because we die before we spend the time to

00:45:43.060 research it i would be in favor of blowing the entire thing up and starting over because i'm

00:45:49.100 that i'm that worried about it to me to me to this is like like elon musk and the ai like can't we

00:45:54.720 just nuke it and give us give ourselves another 200 years here's another one that i think probably

00:46:01.600 has more to do with it maybe but is a pew research study uh similarly another graph it says the

00:46:08.240 question is has a doctor or health care provider ever told you that you have a mental health

00:46:14.720 condition so for conservatives like men and women it's around 20 percent or less

00:46:21.720 for liberal women it's like around 60 percent

00:46:27.620 so and then with moderates it's way so it's almost like there's a few ways there's a lot 0.55

00:46:35.840 ways to interpret data obviously but i'm looking at this i'm thinking well liberals live in liberal

00:46:41.740 areas liberals go to liberal doctors so there's also an element here where they're just being 0.97

00:46:47.320 over prescribed shit by these liberal doctors where in like fucking nashville or like you know 0.96

00:46:52.980 alabama they're not doing that there's nowhere near enough information in this study for it to 0.99

00:46:57.260 be useful but it is funny yeah like have you ever been as a doctor told you like 60 percent of

00:47:03.460 liberal women have been told that they have a mental health or i'm like and that's again well

00:47:09.260 let's you know what they don't want to say what are the genders of the doctors what i'm personally

00:47:13.300 responsible for at least 25 of those i'm the guy going around telling liberal women they have a

00:47:19.340 mental problem that's a lot of people don't know this about jews he was the first guy even back

00:47:24.020 like around when we were graduating high school he's the guy who figured that if you just buy a

00:47:28.680 doctor's coat you can just walk into a hospital yeah you can get whatever you want and we used

00:47:35.960 to go to army surplus stores they would sell them there they would sell you know if a couple things

00:47:41.460 also if you buy like old army fatigue pants people just leave you alone but if you buy a doc a lab

00:47:48.420 coat but you look frustrated you can go through any door any door opens for you go to the pentagon

00:47:54.780 with a doctor's coat on

00:47:56.240 and look like you just...

00:47:57.840 First of all, put your doctor's coat on.

00:47:59.820 Look frustrated.

00:48:01.000 If that doesn't work,

00:48:02.900 arc your back up 1.00

00:48:04.060 and put your hand on your ass 1.00

00:48:05.860 and waddle like you just shit your pants. 1.00

00:48:08.500 And then just try and get through doors like that. 0.99

00:48:11.800 President Doctor, I'm so glad we found you.

00:48:13.860 We need you in the war room.

00:48:15.480 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 0.94

00:48:20.700 These are my wife's new pants. 1.00

00:48:22.500 and they're just saluting you 1.00

00:48:25.540 there goes a real hero

00:48:30.480 you in a doctor's coat 1.00

00:48:38.000 pretending you shit your pants 1.00

00:48:39.620 wearing your wife's pants 1.00

00:48:40.600 being saluted by amputees 1.00

00:48:42.500 I love this 0.96

00:48:46.960 what a life

00:48:49.460 for people wondering what it's like in the streets uh most women you meet now

00:48:56.940 either are or believe they are mentally ill and and i would love to see how this is broken down 1.00

00:49:03.560 by race i think they're they're giving throwing us a bone they think by doing political affiliation 0.99

00:49:09.960 and then maybe we can fill in the blanks with what conservative man means but liberal woman 0.95

00:49:15.200 that's a lot of women you know what i mean and like conservative women i'm like that could be a

00:49:21.940 lot of black women honestly like and hispanic women like i don't i can't discern race but i

00:49:26.520 would love to know how this breaks down ethnically right i would bet i would bet heavily that um 0.65

00:49:33.140 regardless of politics most of this quote-unquote mental disability is coming straight from the

00:49:39.260 white population just because the white population actually use doctors just for that reason alone 1.00

00:49:43.960 you know i i can't imagine a bunch of hood rats going to their fucking shrink to see whether or 1.00

00:49:50.460 not they have you know bipolar disorder would they all have bipolar disorder that's the reason 1.00

00:49:55.740 they would never go to a doctor also they can't read so i mean yeah they don't go to doctors they

00:50:01.820 don't go to vets like i dude i was reading a story just the other day about um a veterinarian

00:50:08.380 in africa because africa they have dogs in africa i love african countries they like they have dogs 0.67

00:50:13.100 around but black people have a tendency like you know not maybe not android andre 3000 maybe not 0.99

00:50:22.020 kendrick lamar but most black people they really abuse their dogs and they'd have these like 1.00

00:50:27.380 volunteer vets going to the west there and it's like black people only bring you their pets when 1.00

00:50:32.800 they're on the edge of death yeah like when they're they're stuffed to the brim with a cornucopia of 1.00

00:50:41.020 worms that they're bursting out of their fucking eyes they're like what can you do and it's like 0.99

00:50:44.820 like you don't understand what death is at this point like yeah so it wouldn't surprise me if 0.99

00:50:52.080 they just don't they don't go to the doctor they don't talk to the doctor and you'll hear black 0.99

00:50:57.000 people i i saw a show oh my god this is so funny because black people would agree with this right 0.86

00:51:02.920 there's this show called like new amsterdam it was this terrible uh hospital drama uh the 0.58

00:51:10.900 lead guy he looked like edward norton but he's not and they did an episode uh where he's like

00:51:16.120 he's a he's a he's head of this hospital and he's dying so he wants he's trying to be like a social

00:51:20.660 justice hospital administrator will everyone in the cardiac surgical department please raise your

00:51:26.740 hands great great thank you you're all fired any department who places billing above care

00:51:35.240 you will be terminated.

00:51:37.420 So, how can I help?

00:51:41.900 You know, we all feel like the system is too big to change.

00:51:46.380 We'll call you when we have a doctor available, okay, hon?

00:51:49.780 We are the system, and we need to change.

00:51:52.700 Let's be doctors again. 1.00

00:51:57.800 This girl has been abused three times in the foster care system.

00:52:01.180 If you can't help Gemma as a doctor,

00:52:02.920 then just help her as a human being.

00:52:04.380 am i allowed to do that you are now

00:52:07.180 it's as bad as it's it's worse than it sounds actually i won't get into it but

00:52:12.920 there's a an episode where he noticed that black people don't go to the hospital

00:52:18.440 and he learns this from like one of the black surgeons because this show has like 0.95

00:52:23.800 a fit handsome genius black surgeon right who's also sleeping with one of like the white women 0.97

00:52:30.740 like it's just like the you know oh but he's like yeah you know black people don't do that 0.98

00:52:36.240 because of their distrust of the government and then it's like they'll always that the cope black 0.97

00:52:42.380 people do is that they talk about the tuskegee experiments or something like there's there's 0.97

00:52:48.060 some experiment that happened in the fucking 40s in 1932 they launched a massive experiment in

00:52:55.400 tuskegee alabama the town had already possessed a small hospital and the area was home to a 0.84

00:53:00.700 large population of potential participants. The PHS collaborated with local doctors and nurses

00:53:06.580 to recruit roughly 400 Black men, presumed to have non-contagious late-stage syphilis,

00:53:12.820 as well as 200 non-syphilitic Black men for their control group. But their recruitment plan centered 0.66

00:53:19.140 on a lie. While the researchers planned to observe how syphilis would progress with minimal treatment,

00:53:24.520 participants were told they would receive free drugs and care for their condition.

00:53:28.400 at first researchers gave the men existing treatments but these were soon replaced with 0.99

00:53:34.500 placebos and like they if you ask a black they will say that they'll say yo the old man they 0.98

00:53:40.680 used to experiment i'll say tuskegee you know syphilis or whatever i'm gonna put a clip in 1.00

00:53:45.420 here to explain it but it's like do you tell me what you think that was they can't tell you they

00:53:50.340 just don't go to the doctor and then they retroactively found a reason why they yeah yeah

00:53:55.800 that's why the intergenerational trauma i i kind of heard it this guy i knew read a wikipedia article

00:54:02.620 and that's what it is so it wouldn't surprise me at all if this is this might actually be

00:54:07.880 all white people it might it might be actually you know it might be mostly white women

00:54:12.640 i think it is a fact check everyone on this is a woman even the men well that was a joke i was

00:54:19.440 going to make is um too late talking about the the problem right i was saying the problem

00:54:27.400 the problem might actually be like a water quality problem if you think about it right

00:54:31.940 like for example i live out on a farm and if we took the well head off of my well and we put all

00:54:38.760 of the regional psychologists in the well and then we put the well head back on then we then we have

00:54:43.480 a water quality problem but we don't have mental illness anymore right yeah go away and i think

00:54:49.240 That is the way that we have less male mental illness.

00:54:53.720 I don't think it actually is because men are more resilient. 1.00

00:54:57.000 I think it's as men are less likely to go to a fucking shrink. 0.99

00:54:59.860 Whereas women are far more likely generally to say, oh my God, there's something wrong with me. 0.99

00:55:04.660 Somebody help. 1.00

00:55:05.360 Somebody bail me out.

00:55:06.860 Right?

00:55:07.020 You know what?

00:55:07.820 I'm going to be honest.

00:55:09.900 Any guy that tells me that they go to a therapist or a psychologist, I respect them to zero.

00:55:18.940 Yeah.

00:55:19.240 because even like even people who go to therapy like i'm not a guy who like throws out all of

00:55:26.080 psychology we've covered psychology and like i think it's a important if flawed area of study

00:55:32.080 and there's a lot to be learned from that however it seems obvious to me that even the people who

00:55:37.420 go to therapy they complain that's too expensive they complain that they get nothing out of it

00:55:42.420 they complain like i just need someone to talk to you know what i mean yeah and i'm like i guess

00:55:47.680 that you could go talk to a priest for free i don't know because like you don't have because

00:55:51.160 you don't need answers you just need someone to talk to apparently that's one thing i was

00:55:54.000 going to say is is therapy i mean if you talk about therapy qua therapy like i mean like you

00:56:02.880 be in being with your buddies at the bar is therapy right going on a vacation or for a

00:56:06.860 sabbatical is therapy your priest is therapy now government therapy maybe sometimes that is useful 0.99

00:56:12.840 but that's where you're starting to get into the realm of psychology for me it's the shit or get 0.98

00:56:16.380 off the pot thing where it's like i'm gonna go to therapy or to a psychologist and i'm gonna now i 0.98

00:56:21.260 have a prescription and i have a diagnosis and everybody's supposed to take care of me but i'm 0.86

00:56:25.540 still a normal person i'm not retarded i'm not broken i don't i shouldn't be locked in a cage 0.79

00:56:30.680 i still should have my job and you should all still respect me but also i should have permanent 0.96

00:56:34.280 sympathy no fuck you you're just in the oppression olympics now right it's one one or the other that's 0.97

00:56:38.660 how i view it if you're gonna go and you're gonna get a diagnosis and a prescription that's fine 1.00

00:56:43.500 i'm gonna treat you like the little two-armed gimp and i'm never inviting you to anything ever again 0.98

00:56:48.660 and i will donate to your health but i'm gonna treat you like a subhuman for the rest of your 1.00

00:56:53.500 life and i secretly wish that you'd fucking kill yourself or or like the rest of us you can just 0.99

00:56:59.380 cope now for people that actually have real mental illnesses like schizophrenia yeah we should donate 0.99

00:57:05.160 to their health but let's be fair they're not really people they're schizophrenics they're they 0.98

00:57:10.680 they should be locked in cages and we all let's be honest secretly wish they were dead because 0.98

00:57:15.080 they're a weight on society right right so don't like on the one hand wish that you were one of 0.94

00:57:20.660 those people so you can get universal sympathy but then on the other hand expect that we're all

00:57:24.280 going to treat you like a person which you aren't anymore you know it's one or the other yes

00:57:28.380 schizophrenic people or put them on aircraft carriers put them as captains of aircraft carriers

00:57:33.860 and see what happens i like where that went that was good yeah people are like oh what do you think 0.98

00:57:39.980 is going to happen something it's never been tried the ocean who gives a fuck about the ocean 0.99

00:57:45.300 all of the types of retards and psychos who want to still be part of society like 0.99

00:57:49.880 really really autists oh man like real autists and then the and then not real autists sorry i 0.99

00:57:55.940 mean like asperger's autists who aren't real autists they're just losers and then actual 0.99

00:58:00.020 autists like basket weavers who can't tie their own shoes and then schizophrenics psychopaths so 0.99

00:58:05.320 like in all the trudeau's entire cabinet you put all of them on an aircraft carrier yeah that'd be 0.99

00:58:11.820 that'd be fucking awesome people like oh do you want these people like what do you it's a good 0.54

00:58:15.960 question what do we do with these people what do we talk to we foucault you know history of madness 0.99

00:58:21.560 we've had a complicated history of dealing with the deranged and the mentally ill they're saying

00:58:29.200 dimes what do you want them squeaking up windmills like faust do you want them just out in the hot 0.91

00:58:36.420 sun all day no what i want them is piloting drones what i want them is in tanks what i want 0.98

00:58:46.500 new wars i want retard wars put them over here i don't know much about eastern europe i know a bit 0.93

00:58:53.660 but there's got to be a whole bunch of nothing going on over there aside them all to israel 0.99

00:58:58.220 send them to israel we're gonna bulldoze palestinian villages to make settlements for 0.96

00:59:06.760 autists and retards by the time they rewrite encyclopedia britannica to 1.00

00:59:12.420 redefine what a humanitarian crisis is it'll be too late this is the thing jews always have to 1.00

00:59:18.200 have a white guy around for crypsis we just give them all the retarded ones 1.00

00:59:21.680 every every like synagogue has to have like three autistic guys 0.99

00:59:27.680 and i mean like rain man level here i'm talking

00:59:33.260 see you know you know what this is therapy this is what white guys should be doing don't go

00:59:40.760 therapist get a podcast and start throwing heaters across the plate it's just as easy as that that's

00:59:48.080 right self-medication i mean i don't know like here's the therapy for here i'm gonna give you

00:59:53.820 a 90s joke you want a 90s just for laughs live thing here's therapy for a guy stand there with

01:00:01.740 your friend going 1.00

01:00:03.140 women. The guy 0.82

01:00:05.660 goes, I hear that.

01:00:15.660 There. You know what?

01:00:17.840 Everyone's punching their screen right now.

01:00:19.940 In the 90s, I'd be

01:00:21.540 headlining Just for Laughs in Montreal with that.

01:00:24.300 Yeah.

01:00:25.360 Did you ever see that, by the way? Did you ever watch

01:00:27.420 old, on the comedy network?

01:00:29.720 It's so bad. The worst part of it is

01:00:31.480 the um the one they do like live gags that are clearly oh yeah they're so obviously scripted oh

01:00:37.220 yeah they did just for laughs gags but i was also talking about the stand-up thing because i remember

01:00:41.620 like i watched stand-up comedy a lot growing up and i was really big into comedy and i also watched

01:00:47.140 comedy at studio 54 or club 54 there's all we had this channel called the comedy network

01:00:53.360 and it was just you know funny shows but also live comedy and looking back i'm like

01:00:58.360 it was all really really bad like i remember a lot of gimmick comedians and you don't really

01:01:05.360 see them much anymore but like i remember watching and just for laughs for people who don't know

01:01:10.000 just for laughs is a internationally renowned stand-up comedy festival so it's like a four

01:01:18.360 day weekend once a year in montreal and the biggest comedy acts go there and it's all across

01:01:24.740 the city and big big ticket and uh but i remember seeing like i remember one it was just this woman 1.00

01:01:32.180 like a irish woman dressed like a nun and her little bit was that she would curse 0.99

01:01:37.740 and that was it now you could just like get in front of like 10 000 people and do that

01:01:44.320 and everyone was laughing

01:01:45.760 guys like Emo Phillips

01:01:48.320 he talks like

01:01:50.500 this and

01:01:52.360 I'm a character

01:01:54.760 like

01:01:56.060 we should all learn

01:01:58.340 to love each other

01:02:00.540 once I was in San Francisco

01:02:05.000 walking along the Golden

01:02:08.680 Gate Bridge

01:02:09.740 and I saw this guy

01:02:13.020 on the bridge

01:02:13.920 about to jump

01:02:16.160 I thought I'd try to stall him

01:02:19.220 be paying him long enough

01:02:21.140 for me to put the film in 0.99

01:02:23.180 I'm saying stuff people don't give a shit 0.97

01:02:29.100 about right now because we need to get 0.98

01:02:31.120 to the real meat of this

01:02:33.140 episode

01:02:33.680 now this is an

01:02:37.200 ongoing story but

01:02:39.160 I think we've given it enough distance

01:02:41.080 where we can assess

01:02:42.980 some of the damage that we know for sure that was not available in the earliest days what i am

01:02:49.300 talking about right now is the silicon valley bank yes you've heard about everyone's heard about this

01:02:55.340 oh yeah you've i'm sure you've heard about this let me just check though have you yes yes it's

01:03:01.800 all anyone who has money is talking about i think it's not like it disappeared i don't know if they

01:03:07.240 file but like it's it's over for them they're they're toast um i i think it's kind of over

01:03:13.640 forbes listed silken valley among the best of america's banks for 2023 just days before it

01:03:19.400 collapsed i am absolutely shocked at the swiftness of how the entire fiasco unfolded rising interest

01:03:28.120 rates limited tech companies ability to raise money forcing them to burn through their cash

01:03:32.920 and pull money out of SVB. On March 8th, to fund client redemptions, SVB sold 21 billion

01:03:39.280 U.S. dollars worth of government bonds at a loss, as they'd plummeted in value when

01:03:43.740 interest rates climbed. Still strapped for cash, SVB announced the sale of 2.25 billion

01:03:49.600 U.S. in stock, which sent its stock plummeting. A bank run ensued when too many customers

01:03:55.060 tried to withdraw their money at the same time.

01:03:58.480 On Monday, customers could be seen lining up to try to retrieve their funds.

01:04:03.560 Silicon Valley Bank was the bank of choice for thousands of companies in the tech sector,

01:04:08.320 many of them startups fueled by angel investors.

01:04:11.600 Almost half of all the venture capital funding in the United States flowed through the bank

01:04:16.080 at one time or another.

01:04:19.280 Investors in the banks will not be protected.

01:04:22.480 They knowingly took a risk, and when the risk didn't pay off, investors lose their money.

01:04:28.100 how capitalism works yeah it's over and it's causing what appears to be a domino effect uh 0.87

01:04:35.300 of course um which happens in the financial in financial industry i'm sounding like a retard 0.54

01:04:41.680 right now i'm sorry i actually have lots and lots of notes and articles here i don't know why i'm 0.58

01:04:46.860 the ball this much at the beginning humiliation rewind thrown defended when the news broke

01:04:54.800 there was a flurry of accusations on why this bank went under um there's some that we laughed

01:05:02.940 about uh one for example you know the same thing that happens every time something like this

01:05:07.240 happens what was the race of the people in charge what was the gender of the people in charge

01:05:12.440 yeah so um the only wrong answer is a white guy anyone else's were like yay vindicated poor but

01:05:21.000 vindicated um so it said oh this is the silicon valley bank it's got uh borrowed directors that's

01:05:28.020 all women a risk assessment board that's all women so he said haha that's what you get when

01:05:32.040 you have women do things but you know i think everyone kind of knows that's a very glib and 0.75

01:05:38.320 wrong way of looking at it may be contributing factor but that's not really it uh but it is fun

01:05:44.120 to talk about and then that's the image going around and here i'm looking at the daily mail

01:05:49.540 you know right after it goes bankrupt what says go woke go broke svb silicon valley bank svb

01:05:57.500 hired board obsessed with diversity invested five billion for a healthier planet and held

01:06:05.180 month-long pride celebration but had no chief risk officer for eight months last year jesus

01:06:13.000 so that's all true none of that is incorrect um one thing to keep in mind for that is that 0.98

01:06:20.620 none of that is far and away different than what any bank is doing right now i think it's stupid

01:06:26.060 i think it's a waste of time but most banks are funneling bill like five billion isn't even that 0.97

01:06:33.080 much for a bank like this uh investing in green stuff i bet every bank has a fucking month-long 0.88

01:06:39.860 pride month you know what i mean like that's i find it hard to pin the failure just on that 0.98

01:06:45.660 because that fucking jp morgan they have as much performative wokeness as anyone else but isn't 0.99

01:06:52.760 isn't the takeaway that it's not so much that they wasted so much money on gay shit that they 1.00

01:06:58.160 couldn't run the bank it's that the people who are supposed to be in charge of daily managing risk 1.00

01:07:03.280 were involved in gay shit instead of managing risk that's what i took that's right i'm not saying 0.99

01:07:08.820 none of it's involved i'm saying it's a cumulative thing like it's a bunch of stuff but there's 1.00

01:07:13.480 another story here that isn't just you know they're bad with money because they're women

01:07:19.160 um that is a contributing factor though absolutely and not having a chief risk officer

01:07:25.460 bad idea right so that that's one way of looking at it um another way of looking i'm looking at a

01:07:32.520 map a site here called heat map um and it's titled death of a climate bank um because the biggest

01:07:40.820 businesses that are hit startups first of all startups are hit hugely by this because silicon

01:07:45.940 valley bank was a massive investor in startups in silicon valley that's where god's name from right

01:07:51.820 so it invests in a lot of disruptive technology green technology all that new stuff that people

01:07:57.640 again roll their eyes at but they're a primary investor in that this article from heat map

01:08:03.260 says more than 60 of community solar financing nationwide involved with silicon valley bank

01:08:11.060 so this is going to hit a lot of people who are into the various rebates and investments that go

01:08:17.400 along with starting solar farms putting solar panels on their houses whatever um just that

01:08:23.020 The United States witnessed its largest bank failure since 2008 on Friday as Silicon Valley Bank ran out of cash and was taken over by the FDIC.

01:08:34.560 True to its name, the bank was central to the technology ecosystem and Northern California economy.

01:08:41.180 It claimed half of the country's venture-backed startups as customers.

01:08:47.420 So that's a massive amount of startups, right?

01:08:50.960 And that's all startups, even the bad ones.

01:08:53.020 But what hasn't received as much attention is that Silicon Valley Bank was particularly important to the climate tech sector.

01:09:01.840 Silicon Valley Bank served as a banker to dozens of climate and energy tech companies holding their cash on a day to day basis, issuing billions of dollars in loans in the support of the type of large scale one up projects that are essential to the sector.

01:09:15.640 So it seems that most green startups were, you know, relying on this and they're all up in the air.

01:09:22.160 they're not making payroll they're trying to keep the lights on and they actually don't know how

01:09:27.320 um if people have never worked in a startup before you have to understand like how they got

01:09:33.120 no rev there's no revenue forget revenue we're talking about companies that are so far away from

01:09:39.480 making revenue that it's ridiculous most of these can only survive they don't even have a plan to

01:09:45.460 make any money for like 15 years most likely right so that's one thing like there's the climate angle

01:09:52.860 there's the gender angle it's all working together right so if you don't like at new disruptive green

01:09:59.580 technologies you'll say that's part of it that's why they they weren't getting money back it was

01:10:05.040 just a house of cards here's another angle and i think this is contributing just as much if not

01:10:13.200 more the it's called the svb collapse there's one name that we can pin the beginning of this bank

01:10:23.500 run on because that's what caused the silicon valley bank to lose all its money it was a bank

01:10:27.840 run and the people were scared and they're not usually put in this position but it turned out

01:10:31.920 and this is another angle to this is people saying well this is how all banks run all banks are

01:10:36.140 corrupt all banks should be dismantled they lent more money than they have but that but again that's

01:10:41.860 every bank so you know if you can make that argument you can make an anti-bank argument

01:10:46.660 that is fine but if we wanted to pin this on the actual individual it's actually peter teal

01:10:54.480 the rapid collapse of silicon valley bank can be traced to how quickly panic spread on social

01:11:01.900 media and in slack rooms and much of the freak out was fed by venture capitalists who urged

01:11:07.840 their founders to pull money from the bank. Now, many of these same VCs then turned around

01:11:13.660 and began shouting loudly on Twitter for the government to step in and backstop uninsured

01:11:19.180 deposits. It actually is. Not in a malicious way, but maybe in a malicious way. And this is a case

01:11:27.900 I've heard more and more as the days have gone on. And I think it's provable that this has

01:11:34.120 something to do with it. So I'm just reading the Washington Examiner right now. Peter Thiel's role

01:11:39.100 scrutinized as spark of bank run. So tech mogul and Republican campaign donor Peter Thiel is being

01:11:47.260 accused of sparking the run on the bank that forced regulators to close it down. So there's

01:11:53.440 this one journalist named Dave Troy said, to be clear, the bank did not properly hedge its risks

01:11:59.680 against two threats the first risk was concentration of influence by peter teal and the second was

01:12:05.780 rising interest rates so basically peter teal kind of went out and rang the bell that something was

01:12:13.000 going on with svb so you could say it's like he's telling the truth you know there's nothing

01:12:18.880 incorrect about what he said there might not be anything malicious about what he said

01:12:23.480 but this is kind of like what um never sam bankman freed yeah that guy that that the collapse of that

01:12:31.040 bank was similarly triggered by a bank run by i believe it was the founder of binance

01:12:38.540 one of their competitors yeah that guy was the first to say like something's going on with these

01:12:44.120 people so it's like we can blame the guys who caused the bank run who wake everyone up to 0.94

01:12:50.280 something that is rotten in the state of wherever the fuck but you know they're not incorrect and 1.00

01:12:56.300 it's like sam bank from freed was a piece of shit and a liar and a fraudster and the intentions of 0.99

01:13:02.460 his competitor in calling that out does not that does not make them both equally bad is what i'm 1.00

01:13:09.120 saying yeah so peter teal is responsible for triggering the bank run what are his motives

01:13:15.520 um is it just because he hates them or he's anti-startups he's not obviously

01:13:21.440 um there's what the this and this ties into the last angle that i think

01:13:27.460 would be more revealing and this will get revealed as we go i suppose but um

01:13:34.280 silicon valley bank's china venture is in doubt as startups struggle to access u.s funds

01:13:40.480 basically um the fail he says here the failure of the silicon valley bank has left many chinese

01:13:47.560 funds and tech startups in the lurch as the collapsed institution served as a key funding

01:13:52.820 bridge for groups operating between china and the u.s uh silicon the silicon valley lender played a

01:14:00.400 big role in china's dollar-based ecosystem for funding this company's industry insider said

01:14:06.160 with funds and startups often holding money at the bank before bringing it on shore in mainland

01:14:12.200 china so what i'm trying to say is that there's a chinese angle here that if there is some sort

01:14:18.180 of cloak and dagger financial chicanery going on like it might very well have been peter teal

01:14:24.780 trying to attack chinese money that's another angle now what do you think about that anything

01:14:31.260 yeah yeah that sounds reasonable you could by the same token you could make the argument that 0.51

01:14:35.700 He's attacking Israeli money and it didn't just work.

01:14:38.180 But then the other question is, are we scolding Peter Thiel or are we patting him on the back?

01:14:42.740 Well, this is the thing.

01:14:43.880 I'm not even trying to cast him as a bad guy because I'm not like an anti-Peter Thiel guy.

01:14:48.100 I know a lot of people are more than suspicious about him.

01:14:51.120 I'm neutral on him.

01:14:53.600 I'm neutral on Elon Musk as well.

01:14:56.240 I don't love or hate.

01:14:58.820 And then just a brief here from the article I'm reading in the Financial Times.

01:15:04.080 archived. So you don't need to do the payroll. Take that URL, put it in archive.is. There you

01:15:11.260 get the article. The run on the SVB happened so quickly with $42 billion leaving the bank's

01:15:18.480 coffers on Thursday in the US that by the time the decision makers in China were waking up

01:15:23.580 Friday morning, attempts to rescue their money were already in peril. So that right there makes

01:15:30.520 who think the timing is significant as well.

01:15:34.240 And they're quoting a Beijing-based tech company here

01:15:36.880 who wants to remain anonymous.

01:15:38.720 We tried Friday morning, but it was already too late.

01:15:41.900 The transfer is still processing.

01:15:43.880 It's very crazy.

01:15:45.400 We didn't think this could happen.

01:15:47.620 The founder, who asked not to be named,

01:15:49.980 was hopeful that a large American bank

01:15:51.960 would soon take over SVB's U.S. assets

01:15:55.220 and make his company whole.

01:15:57.300 Half of their capital was held on shore

01:15:59.920 at a separate bank so they did not foresee any immediate payment issues several chinese-based

01:16:06.580 venture capitalist firms said some startups in their portfolios have similar issues so like 0.60

01:16:10.920 the chinese startup market is fucking decimated more than anyone else so just to recap you know 0.98

01:16:17.060 we've got the climate stuff yes woke stuff yes ineptitude yes banks just being shitty fiat 0.98

01:16:25.200 currency every go back to gold and buy bullets that's an also critique as well but i'm the most

01:16:32.760 warm on the peter teal china thing yeah um and we'll see where that goes that's a comfy take you

01:16:39.960 know the takes got jive i like that yeah and i'm looking at the washington post right now because

01:16:46.100 like you know the left is now they're scrambling because they just hate us but it's like the right

01:16:51.360 offers a reason why silicon valley banks failed wokeness this is from democracy dies in darkness

01:16:58.600 ladies and gentlemen so here's the other angle and it's a boring financial angle but it says

01:17:04.300 there's not much mystery about what caused silicon valley bank to fail as the washington post julian

01:17:11.860 mark reported the the bank held a high percentage of government bonds that plunged in value as the

01:17:18.220 federal reserve increased interest rates an announcement that the bank was trying to raise

01:17:22.760 money sparked a run from depositors looking to withdraw their money the bank collapsed

01:17:27.560 or as right-wing figures like to summarize it the bank was too woke like both of these can be true

01:17:34.760 right yeah yeah of course see like our take generally on this show is we'll list the data 0.76

01:17:42.080 here and maybe it sounds like i'm hedging my bullshit but i'm also thinking all of this is

01:17:48.280 true all of this contributed in some way the wokeness did matter the risk assessment stuff 0.78

01:17:53.920 matter interest rates matter that peter teal china it's all bundled together right yeah i mean each 0.99

01:17:59.920 of those factors is provable and real and mattered like not you can't discount you'd be an idiot to 0.99

01:18:06.960 discount any of them but i think you'd also be an idiot to try not an idiot maybe just be very 0.99

01:18:11.340 political to take one of them and say this is the thing that mattered never mind the deregulation 1.00

01:18:16.740 never mind teal it was because it was woke like look i hate woke shit as much as the next person 0.99

01:18:20.660 but there's clearly a lot of other shit going on here and like these aren't the only woke banks 0.99

01:18:24.460 out there there's plenty of them like almost every bank at this point is woke and there's an argument 0.99

01:18:28.680 for like this woke esg shit that it actually is like there's economic reasons why they do it 0.89

01:18:33.460 they're perverse reasons but it's not like the companies that are all pro woke are necessarily 0.98

01:18:37.860 fundamentally woke in principle like on a personal level but there's this is the way

01:18:42.560 the market is right now so yeah i also and i'm getting into a fight with the washington post

01:18:48.300 right now what the fuck is wrong oh don't do it no but i'm also like i reject the premise that 0.79

01:18:53.660 the right is laser focused on the wokeness thing because yes we are talking about the wokeness 0.98

01:19:01.160 we're talking about the female-led board but we're also the only ones i can see talking about china

01:19:07.040 i don't see any libs talking about the chinese angle i don't see them talking about the

01:19:12.740 geopolitical power plays going on they just think it's interest rates which again it's what's one

01:19:20.180 aspect to it but you know the same leftists that they're the ones who will go to bat for the bank

01:19:27.400 because they're the easiest people in the world to trick they think that oh you're investing in

01:19:31.920 green stuff so you must be a good bank so it's only how did this happen well you know actually

01:19:37.740 yeah you know what the right caused this to fail like they will actually blame us for the bank

01:19:42.860 failing that's that's essentially what you'll if you read between the lines of these articles coming

01:19:47.860 out of like the shit lit press that's what it'll be but like look i'll i'll oh like just the right

01:19:54.540 does this a lot like we go we have some extremes just like with covet we're the only ones talking

01:20:00.160 about nanomachines and the facts right true we were also the only ones talking about the wuhan lab

01:20:08.120 yeah we were the and john stewart's out here acting like he's the first guy saying no that

01:20:13.200 was us we were losing our jobs by saying that we were also losing our jobs by saying it's just the 0.92

01:20:18.280 flu we lost our job for all that shit so we do we tend to get in trouble because we have a cluster 0.97

01:20:24.220 of extremes that we'll talk about but most of those extremes turn out to be right you don't 0.98

01:20:29.560 get just to focus on the ones that are wrong because you guys don't talk about any of that 0.99

01:20:33.400 shit yeah i'm gonna go talk to my shit lib in-laws this weekend and they're gonna say 0.99

01:20:37.980 oh you know interest rates they'll throw they'll throw me a bone because they think i'm like a 1.00

01:20:42.700 conservative like you know taxes right i'm like if you think this is taxes i'm going to shoot a 1.00

01:20:49.260 minigun up your asshole i'm gonna march a fucking second line right up your penis hole i'll do it 1.00

01:20:57.260 i've done it do not test him i've seen him do it i'll put you in a headlock and break your legs 1.00

01:21:03.080 with my other arm i'll do i'll turn mick foley on you i'll throw myself off a hell in the cell 1.00

01:21:10.500 steel cage break my fucking back bust up my face look at you give you a big kiss it's still 1.00

01:21:16.720 happening every time somebody says mick foley i think of dave foley every fucking time this dave 1.00

01:21:23.020 Fully throwing a guy off the ropes and then like pile driving them. 0.96

01:21:27.380 I wonder if that was ever on Kids in the Hall.

01:21:29.960 Probably.

01:21:31.500 I never watched that.

01:21:33.920 Not the reboot.

01:21:35.020 They brought Kids in the Hall back.

01:21:37.220 Really?

01:21:37.600 Did you see that on Netflix?

01:21:38.780 No, no, I didn't see that.

01:21:39.620 Maybe it was on Prime.

01:21:40.180 Probably horrible.

01:21:41.240 I didn't watch it.

01:21:42.660 I can't do it.

01:21:44.320 My memories are so good.

01:21:45.580 The thing is, Men in Dresses in the mid-90s was mocking Men in Dresses.

01:21:52.280 You know what I mean?

01:21:52.640 like it was ironic now it's like irony poisoned men in dress well the funny thing is it's like

01:21:57.360 just it was a time when a man in a dress is funny it just is and guess what it's funny in every

01:22:04.520 culture that's i i've i'm deeply fascinated because i like we had talked about i've been

01:22:11.120 watching stand-up comedy my entire life i'm obsessed with comedy that crosses cultural

01:22:16.620 barriers like because comedy usually doesn't translate well doesn't translate in language

01:22:21.860 or culturally very well yeah especially if it's very ironic and meta but the stuff that works

01:22:28.100 and it works here it works in china it works in africa the three stooges three stooges works 0.94

01:22:34.600 everywhere and men in dresses yep you go to fucking korea man address that's funny 0.98

01:22:40.320 yeah you just walk on stage and we're gonna laugh it's funny because it's ridiculous because 0.99

01:22:46.240 you're breaking down you know norms and and whatever like it's but it's not yeah anyway 0.98

01:22:52.140 for the same reason also like a woman being a guy you know dressing up like a guy the problem there 0.99

01:22:58.520 is that women don't know how to act like guys which we've seen with female to male trannies 0.95

01:23:05.460 but you can also see it right now with your girlfriend or your wife at ask go right now 0.97

01:23:12.240 pause this go ask your wife or girlfriend to do an impression of you and i bet you here's how 0.97

01:23:19.120 she's going to start it she's going to she's going to put her arms up like she's like a big 0.95

01:23:23.820 muscly guy and go do she's going to start with duh every i don't get white black age i don't 0.80

01:23:31.000 care who it is every girl doing every impression of their spouse is the exact same it's like asking 0.94

01:23:37.720 them to do a gun sound effect. They can't do 0.99

01:23:39.660 it. It's not in their DNA. They don't got the

01:23:41.660 balls for it. Pew, pew, pew. 1.00

01:23:44.340 Yeah, pew, pew, pew. Sound effects

01:23:45.800 live in the balls. Who's got the clip?

01:23:47.580 I've been saying it.

01:23:50.860 They don't got the ball. 0.99

01:23:51.920 And also, the brain is kept in the balls. 1.00

01:23:53.880 So you don't got balls, you don't got a brain. How about that? 1.00

01:23:55.600 There's a lot in there. That's why the balls are so big. 0.98

01:23:57.640 You got the pee, you got the brain, you got the sound effects. 0.99

01:23:59.880 I mean, there's the works is in there. 1.00

01:24:01.420 You got the shit, you got the brain, you got 1.00

01:24:03.660 the soul. Is the shit in there? 1.00

01:24:05.540 The soul is in there for sure. Shit and soul. 1.00

01:24:07.720 that's why i got two nice if you lose one ball you are up shits creek without a paddle 1.00

01:24:15.780 one one ball and no paddle up shits creek wouldn't wish it on my gayest slave 0.99

01:24:23.740 so silicon valley bank i think we saw that this is an ongoing thing right like we're gonna see 0.99

01:24:33.700 how this shakes out but uh one thing that i'm very much looking forward to

01:24:39.600 um once we're out of this we're still on our like little history arc i might cut it short

01:24:49.360 because i have a lot of books that i find interesting but i can't tell if people are

01:24:55.580 gonna be interested in as much as i am um we're gonna see because people have liked what i've

01:25:00.880 done so far with with rome and the vikings and and shit like that but i think once we get into

01:25:06.440 like ancient india i might start to lose people what do you think i mean i i think it's interesting

01:25:14.320 when you can relate it back you know yeah because i i've been um like i said i've been going to more

01:25:19.940 used bookstores and getting these really these rarer you know hardcover these coming from like

01:25:26.100 old millionaires libraries i found some interesting ones but i also i got one i really find

01:25:32.080 interesting but it's about the stone age like lost stone age cultures yeah i'm like ah that might be

01:25:39.420 a stretch i don't know india that's like i have a book that has like india from like 500 bc up until

01:25:48.520 the 1970s like it's crazy it's a huge thick book i'm like i i i want to know but i'm gonna see this

01:25:57.060 but because the reason i say this is because i after the history arc that we're on i was going

01:26:03.420 to go right into geopolitics and i'm going to explain my reasoning uh my reasoning was that i

01:26:09.100 want i have a whole lot of geopolitical uh things to cover books lined up but i was trying this

01:26:15.340 thing where i'm like you know what i want to build a foundation first of at least a little

01:26:21.800 bit of contextual world history and i don't want to just be european i want to middle east i want

01:26:28.140 it's not going to be academic i'm not drilling down into specific battles but i want to give

01:26:33.080 enough contextual flavor for that when we enter the arena of geopolitics you know a bit more about

01:26:39.340 the middle east you know a bit more about china india because that matters to me i think it

01:26:44.420 matters at least if we're talking about you know these giant global tectonic shifts um i didn't

01:26:51.460 want it to be too abstract so that was my reasoning um but the and i say that i'm going to lead into

01:26:58.560 that geopolitical thing with an investigation into essentially how china's infiltrated canada

01:27:06.440 i got two books on that that they're they're just staring at me on my shelf because they look so

01:27:12.200 interesting and they're very very relevant right now but i'm like i so i might cut the history

01:27:18.520 thing short just to do those i'm deciding about it still but the next few history ones i got lined

01:27:24.060 up are actually really really good the one we're gonna do today is what the bronze age but um you

01:27:30.380 know what i'm not gonna give another story i think i'm just gonna go right into the bronze age book

01:27:34.760 just to give myself enough time yes so um this is the book we're going far far back in time

01:27:42.520 for this one um and i found this really interesting because we're getting into the bronze age now

01:27:48.160 um the book i wanted to discuss it's a relatively short one uh but i i think it gives a pretty

01:27:56.460 well-sourced overview of the claims it's trying to make um so first of all the title of it

01:28:01.920 It's called 1177 BC, the year civilization collapsed by Eric H. Klein.

01:28:10.760 So basically, it takes place mostly in Egypt and the surrounding territories.

01:28:17.560 It was also an era of ancient superpowers.

01:28:20.860 By the late Bronze Age, these included the Assyrian Empire, the Egyptians and their vassal states in Canaan,

01:28:25.840 and the Hittites and their Syrian vassal states at Ugarit and Carchemish.

01:28:28.840 wealthy empires ruling over vast regions of land but then in around 1175 bce things fell apart

01:28:38.280 what we now call the bronze age collapse what you find and i'm finding this as i do deeper history

01:28:47.800 even into the huns and things like that the farther you go back in history the more speculative a lot

01:28:53.640 of the history gets and in this case when you're going back to like the fall of ancient egypt and

01:29:00.180 the collapse of these civilizations he remarks about this in the book that you're dealing with

01:29:05.740 a lot of debate in the historian community you deal with people where it's like you actually

01:29:11.480 don't have data for why these things happen so it's up to you to create this tapestry of what

01:29:17.960 probably happened and you need to bring in a lot of different data inputs to figure out what happened

01:29:23.440 And so for this, what they're trying to figure out is what caused the end of the Bronze Age, what caused the collapse of several of these ancient civilizations.

01:29:33.580 And so you're trying to draw and you're doing arts, deep, deep archaeology here.

01:29:38.240 But you're also trying to take account for, I think there were earthquakes about this time, like there might be a famine.

01:29:44.640 How do you tell if there was a famine?

01:29:46.640 Well, you got to do like like really deep soil analysis.

01:29:49.380 you have to tie together all these different accounts from all these different dead kingdoms

01:29:55.240 and kind of triangulate the truth that way.

01:29:58.440 For centuries, this was the capital of the mighty Hittite Empire,

01:30:02.620 which ruled a large portion of Turkey during the Bronze Age.

01:30:07.520 Hattusha's people cultivated wheat, barley, and lentils,

01:30:10.980 and wore clothes spun from the wool of sheep they kept in the surrounding hills.

01:30:15.620 But if you dig down into the ruins of Hattusha,

01:30:18.320 what you find is a thin black layer right above the city's ancient floors.

01:30:23.960 This layer is made up of ash, charred wood, and rubble scorched in a fierce

01:30:28.940 fire. It dates back to the end of the 13th century BC, around the year 1200

01:30:35.840 before the start of the Christian calendar. And when you step back and take

01:30:39.680 in all the details, it's a little breathtaking. Walls and roofs collapsed,

01:30:45.140 bricks shattered and melted and it's clear that whatever happened to hattusha the destruction was

01:30:51.300 savage unrelenting and total when we're covering this book we're just discussing something the

01:30:57.880 late bronze age that a lot of people are discussing this is just one guy's take on it

01:31:03.520 i think he makes a very very convincing case but i do want to do a preamble here where i just say

01:31:10.220 like you know there's still debate about what caused things and some people think it was you

01:31:14.620 for example um i'll just read the back of the book really quickly to give you a intro here

01:31:21.480 1177 bc marauding groups known only as the sea peoples invaded egypt the pharaoh's army and navy

01:31:30.960 defeated them but the victory so weakened egypt that it soon slid into decline as did most of the

01:31:38.060 surrounding civilizations after centuries of brilliance the civilized world of the bronze

01:31:43.900 age came to an abrupt and cataclysmic end kingdoms fell like dominoes over the course

01:31:49.580 of just a few decades no more minoans or mycenians no more trojans hittites or babylonians

01:31:56.820 the thriving economy and cultures of the late second millennium bc suddenly ceased to exist

01:32:03.600 how did it happen so these are all true and what the debate is about what specifically happened

01:32:09.920 and for a long time the accepted narrative was that it was just these this group called the sea

01:32:16.220 people atlantis yeah maybe like it was but what you find the problem and we'll get into this when

01:32:25.660 we discuss the huns in a bit is that when it came to like groups or civilizations that you know the

01:32:33.440 writer wasn't familiar with they played very fast and loose with the language of who they were

01:32:38.280 like for example the huns and we'll get to them later on but they were called the scythians and

01:32:44.660 scythians was like this vague catch-all term for like anyone that came from outside of the roman

01:32:49.780 empire from this place called scythia but so they but there were real scythians and they didn't have

01:32:56.280 a name for the huns yet so they were just all scythians but you know it's like the sea people

01:33:01.420 who are the sea people a nearby inscription explains how ramses iii fended off a major

01:33:07.660 foreign invasion of egypt it says the foreign countries made a conspiracy in their islands

01:33:14.060 all at once the lands were removed and scattered in the fray no land could stand before their arms

01:33:20.700 they were coming forward toward egypt their confederation was the pellicet to jekru shekelesh

01:33:26.540 denyan and weshesh lands united their hearts confident and trusting our plans will succeed

01:33:33.980 This is describing an alliance of peoples who attacked the Eastern Mediterranean in the late Bronze Age.

01:33:39.540 What we'll see is they're kind of an amalgamation of a bunch of different people,

01:33:43.500 kind of like the Huns became and kind of like the Vikings in a sense. 0.58

01:33:48.220 They gathered up people as they kind of went and they grew, which is a funny aside.

01:33:53.640 We'll get to that later on in other talks, but it is funny that these marauding pirate people,

01:34:00.180 there's examples of them from throughout the world.

01:34:02.580 and what i always found fascinating was the stories of the people who just joined them like

01:34:07.100 they're they're charting a course of destruction across europe across asia wherever and it's like

01:34:13.100 yeah they're picking up guys who just wanted to rape and loot as well so it wasn't even a race 1.00

01:34:18.640 thing it's like oh you're a piece of shit too come on we're hitting up villages next we found 1.00

01:34:24.880 a village that's just kids yeah shit no we found a village that's just pregnant men 1.00

01:34:33.680 all right get them if i can get them 0.99

01:34:38.040 all right so i'm not gonna get too much into like the battles and everything but

01:34:46.820 and and uh because there's wars going on that triggered all this and like how much of the

01:34:50.680 decline was due to wars that's one of the questions but so evidence has showed that

01:34:57.140 all these empires around egypt were interconnected that's the main thesis of the book uh empires

01:35:04.720 such as the crates and the ajayans and then the hittites and troy and everything so the consensus

01:35:11.740 for the longest time was that we had these empires but they didn't know about each other or they

01:35:16.820 didn't like each other and they were kind of self-sufficient uh the generally agreed upon

01:35:24.220 story now is that they're all interconnected and there's many times in this book and in other

01:35:29.080 places where they're described as like the first globalist civilizational or the first internationalist

01:35:36.100 empire right so they're making what i think is a very interesting case that one of the contributing

01:35:43.040 factors to the rapid decline of all of these empires was the fact that they were so interconnected

01:35:49.920 through trade and that that meant that a disruption one meant a disruption the other and then they all

01:35:56.560 fucking collapsed so i guess i would lead with that and say that the story being told here and

01:36:03.760 i think it is an accurate story is the downfall of the world's first globalist internationalist 0.98

01:36:12.600 regime as it were yeah yeah basically with with egypt as like the main one because egypt at the

01:36:20.460 time was uh that egypt was pretty much known for gold egypt owned a very very um popular not

01:36:30.260 popular but very um profitable mine in nubia and so there was all these quotes in the book

01:36:38.560 they found evidence of all these other empires begging egypt for gold and they had these quotes

01:36:44.180 where they would say you know gold is like sand where you are which is almost kind of insulting

01:36:50.000 like like oh you guys get sand right sand's like gold to you it's like we

01:36:54.640 you know other things than sand we also know cats 0.98

01:36:58.300 we're a complicated people the egyptians were not very fun at parties yeah 0.74

01:37:06.460 they were the first sandy cat ladies so this was he calls it the beginning of the golden age of 0.95

01:37:15.660 international internationalism with egypt at the center of a vast network um and it's funny because

01:37:23.840 one of the evidence is that they can tell how interconnected they were this is one example at

01:37:30.260 least was in their communication because they would always communicate with clay tablets which

01:37:35.100 again this is maybe my historical literacy but it helped make it real for me when i realized that

01:37:40.980 oh yeah they just communicated with clay tablets for everything so anytime they wanted to deliver

01:37:47.060 a message they had to get a whole fucking tablet and chisel the message into it and send the guy

01:37:52.040 off with it which is cumbersome but also meant that a lot of these survived um and one thing 0.93

01:37:58.660 they noticed was that often the leaders the kings and the nobility would refer to each other as

01:38:05.760 family members even though they were not directly related they call each other brother and sister

01:38:10.840 and whatnot but they said that was just early kind of like how we do it now with brother and

01:38:15.900 sister they're saying that was just relationship building yeah because even back then familial

01:38:21.120 bonds were a lot more flexible arguably more than they are right now um and he makes an interesting

01:38:28.220 case here and i think a lot of the trade-minded people will find this interesting so one thing

01:38:33.920 that they would do is they would communicate with each other clay tablets and and do these

01:38:38.460 elaborate gift-giving exchanges like i'm trying to we're building relationships between kingdoms

01:38:43.780 i want to give you these huge gifts and these gift-giving exchanges were just used as a pretense

01:38:49.220 for trade now when they would send these big exchanges all the merchants went with them and

01:38:54.420 so it was kind of like a a way to encourage or inspire trade through gift giving which is kind

01:39:01.820 of like going back to the accursed share if you remember that book george matai i i may be reaching

01:39:08.280 with that but i do see gift giving as a way to facilitate other things happening uh and so

01:39:15.840 anyway he's saying that that's evidence that there was regular trade between these kingdoms which

01:39:20.720 prior to this would have had no contact okay so now there we come to the sea peoples and they

01:39:28.560 don't really know who the sea peoples were we only know about them because they're talked about

01:39:32.180 in various communiques and texts and clay tablets we're talked about but but

01:39:38.280 when we conceptualize these we tend to imagine an invasion as like an and here comes an invading

01:39:46.580 army breaking the lines but invasions back then were more like mass migrations are now which is

01:39:53.540 also why we call them invasions so when we talk about the invasions of the sea people

01:39:58.280 there certainly were some soldiers and there certainly were some warriors in there and evil

01:40:04.080 people but um as they were unpacking this they found that there was also a lot of women and

01:40:09.300 children and a lot of farmers because usually what warriors casts and martial classes will do

01:40:15.380 like yeah they'll move like the vikings they'll move in the pillage the plunder the conquer then 0.87

01:40:19.660 they'll leave what they found was that oh the sea people were setting up settlements more than we 0.83

01:40:24.660 thought so it seems obvious that oh these might have been just refugees these might have just

01:40:30.860 been people leaving wherever they were coming from because something fucked up happened so maybe 0.73

01:40:36.200 atlantis i'm giving you a lot with atlantis here i want to go like you said atlantis let's stay with 0.82

01:40:44.400 back okay or hyperboreans or you know whoever yeah uh so the sea people they were likely from

01:40:50.960 the mediterranean this is what the book said from that region from the mediterranean moved like

01:40:55.720 vikings all along the egyptian coast no one knows exactly where they came from but they're most

01:41:01.060 likely from the mediterranean they're composed of many tribes um they all moved at once and

01:41:07.000 dressed in various savage garbs according to the but but you know by savage garb what do you mean 0.98

01:41:13.100 is that just like bones and flesh or is that just you kind of dress like shit you don't know um 0.90

01:41:18.740 they actually attacked over the course of decades and centuries and they eventually defeated egypt 0.96

01:41:25.020 but uh all the other kingdoms that kind of fell to egypt over that time were greatly diminished

01:41:30.300 in that process and that kind of essentially triggered the end of the bronze age uh but it

01:41:35.920 wasn't just because of the sea people raids and this is a um a common theme you see throughout

01:41:41.280 history it's like are these rampaging marauders the symptom or the cause of something else like

01:41:48.140 did they win because they overwhelmed egypt and these other kingdoms or did these kingdoms fall

01:41:55.320 and they just moved in that's what you also see with like the huns and these other groups and a 0.66

01:42:01.460 lot of the times you know not to sound like old shit lib dimes is showing up but a lot of the 0.96

01:42:08.500 times these these uh warrior tribes are just fleeing famine or they're like with the vikings 0.99

01:42:13.980 like they were just looking for a place that didn't suck to live because scandinavia was not 0.98

01:42:19.580 easy and ireland was so a lot of the times it's just fresh other pressures other than we just love 0.80

01:42:25.980 to rape and plunder although that goes with it hand in glove and they said the destruction of

01:42:33.100 these great cities occurred as far as babylon and mesopotamia they can tell uh through sediment

01:42:39.880 analysis if the and this is what i learned a bit about archaeology through this book too because

01:42:44.900 you look at these ruins and how do you tell when a ruin is due to war and conquest or like an

01:42:52.420 earthquake or a flood or anything else um so they could tell that a lot of these uh places were

01:43:02.180 destroyed by conflict but they can also tell here's an example of how they could tell when

01:43:08.200 a city was destroyed by an earthquake the few things they look for mainly are collapsed walls

01:43:14.380 because during a war walls don't just collapse you're seeing fire you're seeing arrowheads buried

01:43:21.820 in walls you're seeing corpses in disarray so usually when they look at a ruin they they can

01:43:29.000 tell it's an earthquake or national disaster when they see people killed by falling walls or a key

01:43:34.260 one is when the keystone is missing from an arch that's an earthquake thing but they could actually

01:43:40.260 look at these ruins and tell when it's it's because of conquering and so some of them were because of

01:43:45.940 the sea peoples um and they kind of just moved on through um there's some other evidence just to show

01:43:53.240 how internationalist they were and i'm this might sound boring to people i found it kind of

01:43:57.220 interesting there's this thing called the aegean list um the aegean list is a list of names on the

01:44:04.260 tomb of uh one of the pharaohs um because on at the tomb of every pharaoh um there's a these things

01:44:13.320 these elongated ovals and the elongated ovals were most they're supposed to represent the fortified

01:44:20.260 circle meaning your sphere of influence so basically on the tomb of every pharaoh there

01:44:25.080 is a symbol representing how big or small their sphere of influence and it would change over time

01:44:30.520 but there's this one pharaoh where it had something called the ajain list that had like this

01:44:35.260 crazy big list of names and a circle of influence so like all of a sudden they noticed that

01:44:41.180 wow this one pharaoh seemed to have connections way more than the others what does that mean does

01:44:47.680 that just mean a change in how they recorded information they're choosing to decide that

01:44:52.560 This means that around this time, around this pharaoh, we see trade relations expand.

01:45:00.500 And another thing they can tell around this time is there's a language that people have probably heard of called Akkadian.

01:45:08.980 And Akkadian was sort of this common diplomatic language.

01:45:13.520 And around this time, you start to see Akkadian pop up in different kingdoms.

01:45:17.820 And the only reason that would happen is because they were trying to find a common language with which to communicate to each other with.

01:45:25.020 And it sounds like I'm belaboring the point here, but I'm just trying to establish the evidence that they have that there was an internationalist interconnected trade network that were reliant on each other.

01:45:36.440 and then over time they became more reliant on each other for not just you know crafted goods

01:45:43.240 like weaponry but also for resources and food food was a big one uh wheat and barley being the

01:45:50.920 biggest one because another thing that people are probably aware of but you know it needs to

01:45:56.540 be reiterated famines were a lot more likely back then uh you'd get hit by famines really hard and

01:46:03.440 And so there's a lot of times when they were begging Egypt for barley.

01:46:07.860 Like, we don't have any bread.

01:46:09.800 What do you want us to do?

01:46:13.780 And also in this book, I don't have it written down here.

01:46:17.640 I just remember it.

01:46:19.020 But there's this one amazing thing.

01:46:21.940 It's the first evidence I had found of a passive-aggressive email in the form of a claim.

01:46:30.320 I think I've read this, actually.

01:46:32.060 yeah of a clay tablet it was basically a guy saying it's like all right you asked me not to

01:46:40.240 do this with the wheat this year i'm writing this to let you know that i didn't and if anything goes

01:46:46.320 wrong i'm just letting you know i did what you said and whatever happens i'm writing it down 0.85

01:46:50.740 like that's what you do in an office when you know something's gonna get fucked up i'm like 0.88

01:46:54.360 i'm putting this down that you asked i'm reminding you that you asked me to do this 0.95

01:46:59.200 and it was just funny to see the passive aggressive email to your boss in akkadian

01:47:06.740 on a clay tablet because they they didn't know how to cultivate properly um there's also uh

01:47:14.780 there's a case here just a little archaeology fun so there was and this is also i made a note here 0.54

01:47:23.780 and this might sound mean but i stand by it it's that egyptians don't deserve to have ancient

01:47:32.900 egypt because most of this stuff a lot of the the tombs being uncovered a lot of egyptology

01:47:40.100 as an area of study was all europeans it was all swiss british german guys who were like trying to 0.95

01:47:50.280 like on Egyptians couldn't give less of a shit about what's going on in these giant pyramids

01:47:55.960 you could say Egyptology was like uh the podcasting of the 18th the 19th century 0.98

01:48:03.040 every every white guy was in on it you know what I've said that before I've said 0.98

01:48:09.420 people find the clip I've said that the cliff he's got the fucking clip I've said that 0.93

01:48:14.100 in essence that's also what we're doing now um but there's a case here where a german egyptologist 0.80

01:48:22.980 they were uncovering um this huge excavation of king tut's tomb because king tut everyone knows

01:48:28.400 king tut but the excavation of king tut's tomb was a big fucking deal and they found they were 0.71

01:48:34.300 uncovering it uh the german egyptologist and the egyptian government was there because they 0.93

01:48:38.260 technically owned it and they had a deal with the egyptian government that you get first pick of

01:48:45.820 whatever we find right so we find something we lay it out in a long row and you pick what you want

01:48:51.340 and we can keep the rest because we're the ones doing all the work so i found this like really

01:48:56.700 really um important bust of nefertiti and they wanted the germans wanted to keep it so they

01:49:04.520 actually didn't clean it they like kept it looking shitty and put it at the end of the line

01:49:09.380 and then like they picked their stuff and then they went home and they cleaned them it's just 0.97

01:49:14.060 like it's still in egypt's possession and the egyptians are so fucking pissed off 0.97

01:49:18.700 but we could we could do that you didn't want it like this is such like a cool like a shitty guy 0.96

01:49:25.780 thing to do some schoolyard shit yeah i also have a note here this doesn't have anything to do with 0.92

01:49:31.120 anything but uh i just have a note that the hittites engaged in what we know as the first 0.96

01:49:36.580 documented case of disinformation in war they did this thing where they they sent out scouts to get

01:49:44.300 captured by the enemy and purposefully gave them wrong information of their plan so they would put

01:49:49.660 their army in a certain area then they would flank them so just the claim made in the book is that

01:49:54.780 the Hittites in the Bronze Age were the first ones to employ military disinformation and try

01:50:01.200 and get their guys caught. So that was kind of cool. Another interesting factoid I got here. 1.00

01:50:08.080 Again, I didn't know this, but the city of Troy actually existed because some people think Troy

01:50:13.140 was just a myth or it was like a literary device. But Troy, yeah, Troy actually existed. And there's

01:50:20.760 actually six versions of troy all built on top of each other so there's not only troy they kept 0.99

01:50:26.520 rebuilding troy and they can tell i don't know like this might just be me showing my ass on a

01:50:33.080 podcast but it still blows my mind that cities are built on top of each other right like you can dig 0.90

01:50:40.520 in the ground like tree rings and find it's a very colonial feeling where we're just used to

01:50:47.300 building on top of burnt longhouses not on the actual yeah um also they cite 1250 bc as the

01:50:56.080 approximate date of the jewish exodus from egypt to canaan under ram ramesses say that again

01:51:01.840 12 1250 bc 1250 bc they said that's the approximate day of the jewish exodus from egypt

01:51:08.820 under ramesses the second um and then on the way that's where they do the 10 commandments but there

01:51:13.960 was always it was always up in the air about what the actual date was and throughout the case of the

01:51:18.860 book he was saying that it's got to be around that time and which pharaoh actually did it because

01:51:24.240 they were trying to figure out there was a few pharaohs it could have been but i think it's

01:51:28.480 ramesses the second so if people want to know who to thank it's him and yeah so now because i'm

01:51:39.160 getting a sorry i'm getting like a stuffy nose i think i might be coming down with a cold in real

01:51:43.620 time on this podcast buddy i'm getting like a tension in my head too i don't know what's

01:51:49.820 happening the ghosts of the pharaohs are getting to me all right i'm gonna try and get through

01:51:54.640 this i'm getting really stuffy it's because you said rameses wrong uh this is what you get when 0.99

01:51:59.320 you talk about egypt you get a whole bunch of curses shoved up your your fucking i can't even 0.99

01:52:05.300 think of what orifice i'm losing it yeah you're getting stuffed up your canopic jar that's what 1.00

01:52:11.600 You know, there's I I'm usually good on orifices making a fucking fool of myself. 0.97

01:52:18.380 OK, so so the research indicates research indicates that the sea people came from the eastern Mediterranean and were pushed out by drought and famine. 0.96

01:52:27.980 And he says caused by climate change.

01:52:30.540 So I don't know about that, but sometimes you can't like, I don't know.

01:52:33.620 Are you just saying that or is that just your fallback when you don't know?

01:52:38.700 Because if that's what it is.

01:52:41.600 So it says, uh, but what factor or combinations of factors may have caused the famines in the Eastern Mediterranean during these decades remains uncertain elements that might be considered include war and plagues of insects, but climate change accompanied by drought is more likely to have turned a once verdant land into an acrid semi desert.

01:53:02.340 However, until recently, other Eastern Mediterranean textual documents contain reports of famine provided only potential evidence for climate change or drought, and even that was indirect.

01:53:14.860 As a result, the issue has been debated on and off by scholars for decades.

01:53:19.520 So just to reiterate, they don't know.

01:53:21.600 A lot of this is we don't know.

01:53:24.260 We got a handful of options.

01:53:26.460 So like it could have been a swarm of locusts.

01:53:29.440 But usually, I think it's fair to say it's probably famine of some kind.

01:53:36.840 Yeah. 0.54

01:53:37.900 And the line here is that the Sea Peoples were simply the last in a line of calamities that destabilized the Mediterranean.

01:53:46.880 And occasionally they moved in on areas that were partially abandoned.

01:53:50.640 And this is what I was saying before.

01:53:52.320 As we have already seen, the Egyptian sources talk of a great mustering at this time in 0.90

01:53:59.260 the seas around Cyprus, then known as Alasea, a seaborne threat coming out of their many

01:54:07.740 islands, presumably those of the eastern Mediterranean that they'd recently overwhelmed.

01:54:15.080 We know from archaeology that this was a region ravaged by violence and chaos.

01:54:22.320 so they're looking at a uh a site here and trying to figure out who these sea people settlers were

01:54:29.980 it says um says he points out that there was no evidence of linear b writing or other aspects of

01:54:37.460 wealthy palatial period from the 13th century bc on the greek mainland

01:54:42.040 he also notes that some may have even been farmers rather than raiding warriors looking

01:54:49.340 to improve their lives by moving to a new area regardless they were an entire population of

01:54:55.800 families on the move to a new home in any event he believes that these migrants were not the cause 0.59

01:55:02.220 of the collapse of the late bronze age civilization but were instead opportunists who took advantage 0.90

01:55:07.820 of the collapse to find themselves new homes so that's just one they started finding evidence on

01:55:14.860 these sites that dc people were also farmers and they found not just swords but tools and things

01:55:20.940 like that so that that kind of recontextualized who these these groups were and another big thing

01:55:27.940 that we haven't mentioned yet but one thing that might have kicked off all of this and for the

01:55:32.780 longest time this uh catastrophe was blamed on most of it it was a set of earthquakes

01:55:40.900 rocked the mediterranean from 1225 bc right up until 1175 bc so these earthquakes and again

01:55:50.160 people especially in canada like we've never really had to live through an earthquake you or

01:55:56.480 me or anyone in canada and there's people all over the world have never had to live through an

01:55:59.580 earthquake but if you're living through an earthquake in these late bronze age civilizations

01:56:05.000 like they would be absolutely decimating entire cities would fucking collapse right so there was 0.91

01:56:11.480 just for one reason or another huge series of earthquakes that most likely started causing 0.99

01:56:17.220 the destabilization and maybe it caused the famines but it certainly caused a lot of bullshit

01:56:23.660 and for the longest time they thought that was the main reason of the cause but it's not then

01:56:28.520 they switched to maybe it's the sea peoples that's the cause but really it's all of them and that's

01:56:33.180 kind of the case being made here that it was all of these things because you have to think

01:56:36.540 returning to the main thesis here what actually causes the collapse of a complex civilization

01:56:45.460 and not just a complex civilization an interconnected networked complex civilization

01:56:51.160 and i think and this is what we were discussing earlier in the episode it's like it can't be one

01:56:57.480 thing of course how could it be one thing it only makes sense if it's a few things but i can't stop

01:57:05.280 drawing parallels and this is why i found this book so interesting i can't stop drawing parallels

01:57:11.060 between this and our current situation our current globalist interconnected internationalist

01:57:17.200 situation and of course the technology is different the ethnicities are different this

01:57:21.780 like we're in a very distinct historical situation we all know that however i think there's parallels

01:57:28.780 to be drawn with what can cause an interconnected civilization to fall and i think and and i'll

01:57:36.200 explore that in two different directions one is like speaking to our people you know people on

01:57:42.300 our side who are always looking for a collapse we're hoping civilization collapses you really

01:57:48.080 need a perfect storm for a a a network of complex civilizations to collapse like you need a few

01:57:54.900 things to go wrong so it's not going to just be one thing um just like the the bank collapse we

01:58:00.600 were talking about the silicon valley bank like what caused that it's a few things it's not just

01:58:05.200 that you're inept people right so but once one starts to fall it is a domino effect right and

01:58:13.400 And I think that's what, like, once Egypt starts to fall, everyone that was dependent on Egypt fell too. 0.74

01:58:18.840 And when I say fall, I mean they collapsed and they disappeared. 1.00

01:58:23.260 And then what happens once you're weakened, then the migrants come in. 1.00

01:58:28.540 Because, you know, in our sphere, we look at the migrant crisis, you know, as they're opportunists. 1.00

01:58:35.780 They just want free money. 1.00

01:58:36.720 True.

01:58:37.680 There's a lot of them that do.

01:58:38.860 but they might not necessarily stop trying to migrate if they think the free money parade is

01:58:47.360 over they might actually move in more once they see that these areas are destabilized and they're

01:58:53.540 weakened and maybe after like we leave people are gonna move in like there's there the opportunism

01:58:59.540 of people fleeing famine get ready for this during the climate crisis by the way

01:59:05.280 they really move in they're the last symptom but they are the last thing that happens and that

01:59:12.160 there's no going back after that yeah yeah it's a it's a domino effect so that's why you know 0.95

01:59:18.420 not to sound black billed but the idea is that once the migrants move in that means it's been 0.97

01:59:24.600 over you know that means like there's they're in the ruins right now and how much of a parallel

01:59:32.480 you want to draw is up to the listener but um yeah and and one example is the actually the

01:59:38.780 example of troy because troy actually was destroyed by an earthquake at one point and

01:59:42.660 they can tell as they're going through the layers they could tell this destruction was an earthquake

01:59:46.760 but this one was the sea people so it's kind of like the archaeological story of troy stacked up

01:59:52.960 over time was earthquake conquest then another earthquake then conquest then then just figure

01:59:58.400 and then they would get mixed up at some times because sometimes archaeologists get drunk

02:00:03.280 sometimes they get drunk and horny just like everybody else by the way and now you know get

02:00:08.960 the wrong scientist with the wrong erection and all of a sudden the story of troy is thrown off

02:00:14.380 its axis they didn't have that part in jurassic park by the way had completely the wrong kind of 0.78

02:00:21.140 boner for that to be accurate information ladies and gentlemen we got it we you got it we're it's

02:00:28.740 done that's the perfect way to end this no but um and and what the interesting thing like what

02:00:35.420 i was just saying was i didn't get into the feedback loop because consider this that as these

02:00:42.180 environmental factors but also these internal factors take hold and then the refugees come in

02:00:47.780 who are also fleeing famine probably caused by those environmental factors all this time you're

02:00:52.760 creating new refugees as these cities fall now they're also refugees now they join the warring

02:00:59.660 raiding bands as well so like it's not like these people are all killed they just become 0.97

02:01:04.180 the conquerors of their neighbors as well and what percentage of the population we don't know

02:01:08.760 but like 20 let's say that so this this is just a tidal wave that's getting more and i don't think

02:01:16.360 i've heard that talked about more because on one hand you've got the sea peoples as this kind of

02:01:22.340 you know barbarian mass but a lot of people don't talk about how that barbarian mass grows

02:01:29.320 and it becomes like even the people the they're no longer foreigners at that point and that just

02:01:36.240 that was the total light switch moment for me because i'm like damn that that means it's too 0.96

02:01:40.960 late and people don't even really give a shit about their neighbors anymore at that point 0.96

02:01:45.620 yeah um so yeah and it says the destruction of these trade routes from these various reasons 0.73

02:01:52.400 would have disrupt and doomed many economies that were only dependent on gold and copper

02:01:57.060 and the bronze as it were and but mainly wheat um wheat was the big thing um and then they've

02:02:05.040 got various i'll read one here um let's read it from here however even if an internal rebellion

02:02:13.100 were not the outcome the cutting of the trade routes could have had a severe and immediate

02:02:17.500 impact upon mycenian kingdoms such as pylos tyrians and mycena which needed to import both

02:02:24.540 copper and the tin needed to produce bronze and which seemed to have imported substantial

02:02:29.540 quantities of additional raw materials as well including gold ivory glass ebony wood and the

02:02:35.960 resin for making perfume while natural disasters such as earthquakes could have caused a temporary

02:02:41.600 disruption in trade potentially leading to higher prices and perhaps to what we today would call

02:02:47.220 inflation more permanent disruptions would more likely have been the result of outside invaders

02:02:52.860 targeting the affected areas whoever who would these invaders have been or they or or is this

02:02:59.080 where we invoke the sea peoples yeah and and so there's evidence around this time of them like

02:03:05.200 begging for wood begging for stuff because as the trade routes were disrupted they were saying well

02:03:10.300 we can't even eat anymore so even even that famine in one of these kingdoms would have

02:03:14.640 birthed their own sea peoples in a way and actually one of the the main and this is almost

02:03:21.260 like a a tour of how archaeology works you know but i find this stuff interesting um the the main

02:03:27.120 places they look at to build these stories is these port cities because they're kind of the

02:03:32.220 canary in the coal mine for everything else like if you want to know like the the capital cities 0.96

02:03:38.380 aren't really where anything happens you gotta look to these fucked up port cities and they're

02:03:42.040 like the first to fall if they're the first to fall that means something trade related but 0.92

02:03:46.100 sometimes the port cities are the last to fall and that means that the civilization collapsed

02:03:51.600 internally somewhere else and the port city kind of hung on right but if the port city through its

02:03:57.380 interaction with the outsiders yeah but the port city falls first then that spreads to the mainland

02:04:02.800 and so it's like a trade route related thing um i've just got a there's a clip here not a clip

02:04:09.260 but a part here that's kind of outlines the entire thing so he splits it off into five notes here

02:04:16.620 a clearly there were earthquakes during this period but usually societies can recover from

02:04:22.840 those b there is textual evidence for famine and now scientific evidence for droughts and climate

02:04:29.060 change in both Aegean and the Eastern Mediterranean, but again, societies have recovered from these

02:04:35.300 time and time again. There may be circumstantial evidence for internal rebellions in Greece and

02:04:40.820 elsewhere, including the Levant, although this is not certain. Again, societies frequently survive

02:04:47.940 such revolts. Moreover, it would be unusual for rebellions to occur over such a wide area and for

02:04:55.220 such a prolonged period of time there's d there is archaeological evidence for invaders or at least

02:05:01.540 newcomers probably from the ajian region western anatolia cyprus and all the above

02:05:06.600 some of these cities were destroyed and then abandoned others were reoccupied and still others

02:05:12.880 were unaffected e it is clear that the international trade routes were affected if not completely cut

02:05:19.420 for a period of time but the extent of which uh this would have impacted the various individual

02:05:25.900 civilizations is not altogether clear so basically he's saying that they could survive all of these

02:05:33.420 individually but they could not survive all of them at once that's basically the the summary of

02:05:40.020 the book because and this is how we we always end up with these sorts of complex situations like

02:05:46.440 the destruction of a complex society must have complex causes i think that would be the

02:05:52.220 central thesis for this entire thing and he goes into two theories one is called

02:05:58.680 systems collapse theory one is called complexity theory the way he describes them they're

02:06:05.660 essentially the same systems collapse theory talks about the domino effect of everything

02:06:10.940 um it's interesting um i'm going to read it here actually because i like this part

02:06:17.880 he talks about a domino a romantic dark period glorifying the previous age and lower

02:06:23.960 socio-political organization as the elite class disappears and vacates so he kind of paints these

02:06:31.160 places as occupied by the non-elites but then they kind of like worship the past in a way and

02:06:37.380 i found that fascinating um so it says colin renfrew at cambridge university one of the most 0.84

02:06:43.860 respected scholars ever to study the prehistoric ajean region i think it's a gay a gian region

02:06:49.820 i keep pronouncing it wrong a g and i keep hearing a g and yeah a g you know we've all seen everyone 0.85

02:06:55.160 every you could all end up like me if you get your own podcast don't be smuggling um he had

02:07:01.420 already suggested the idea of systems collapse back in 1979 at the time he framed it in terms of

02:07:06.840 of catastrophe theory it's a lot of theory names for essentially the same thing

02:07:11.560 wherein the failure of a minor element started a chain reaction that reverberated on a greater and

02:07:17.520 greater scale until finally the whole structure was brought to collapse a potentially unuseful

02:07:23.260 metaphor that comes to mind is the so-called butterfly effect um he says he noted the general

02:07:30.020 features of systems collapse. One, the collapse of the central administrative organization.

02:07:37.560 Two, the disappearance of the traditional elite class. Three, a collapse of the centralized

02:07:43.540 economy. And four, a settlement shift and population decline. So I found that interesting

02:07:50.280 because it makes the abandonment of the elite class central to what a system collapse is.

02:07:56.220 It makes sense to say that once the elite leaves and only, like, the citizenry left, like, it's doomed then.

02:08:05.600 And I just, I never heard it explained like that, where, like, the first ones to leave are the administrative people and the elites.

02:08:12.340 And it's like the citizens are the last ones to know.

02:08:14.980 That's kind of systems collapse theory.

02:08:17.840 And then there's another theory it blames called complexity theory.

02:08:22.100 Complex systems have many interacting parts

02:08:25.840 which behave according to simple individual rules,

02:08:29.640 and this results in emergent properties.

02:08:32.980 The behavior of the system as a whole

02:08:34.760 cannot be predicted from the individual rules only.

02:08:38.900 As Aristotle wrote,

02:08:40.480 the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

02:08:43.960 It introduces this term, I thought,

02:08:46.020 it sounds better than it is.

02:08:48.380 It's called supercoherence.

02:08:51.200 Um, but this is, if anyone knows industrial production, this is essentially what is super

02:08:56.720 coherence is when each part of a system is increasingly reliant on every other piece,

02:09:01.560 the more complex the system, the more super coherence you have.

02:09:05.460 And a good example of this actually is, uh, we've discussed this on the show before and

02:09:10.200 now we're getting into just random ass business stuff, but, uh, uh, lean management and sort

02:09:15.860 not the six sigma thing but lean which is like creating a value stream or a process that is so

02:09:24.520 optimized and so fluid that everything needs to be working at a hundred percent capacity it's

02:09:31.540 almost like any blip in the productivity actually grinds everything to a halt and it's like you can

02:09:38.180 optimize the system so much that it it doesn't become anti-fragile you know what i mean yeah

02:09:45.120 yeah yeah well that's that's the whole thing with optimizing if you think about like min maxing or

02:09:49.000 whatever in gaming that it's really really really good for one specific thing but it's like a glass

02:09:54.240 cannon like it works for that and in any other situation it fails so in like highly redundant

02:10:01.000 economy you know what it is you're offloading your redundancy to the larger economy so you work in

02:10:06.280 this huge connected system the minute any part of that system breaks you your whole thing falls

02:10:12.360 part so yeah and that's basically all i wanted to do to summarize the bronze age collapse um

02:10:19.940 it's a very interesting but like there's a lot of interesting history in here um there's not as many

02:10:25.400 sources as one might hope uh but what we do know is that there's i guess the one thing that really

02:10:32.060 stuck with me was the frequency of collapses like the idea of troy being decimated so many

02:10:37.840 fucking times and they just rebuild it every single time um and i guess that that's really 0.79

02:10:42.460 the story is that you know one thing they mentioned this book it's like yeah you know 0.98

02:10:47.900 revolts happen collapses happen but they always build back so what so you almost can't just blame

02:10:55.320 it on earthquakes you can't blame it on conquest because that happened constantly so the question

02:11:00.840 is is more like why didn't we build back and i think what whatever caused it to reach that

02:11:07.540 critical mass where they couldn't build back that was triggered by just the abandonment of the elite

02:11:12.900 class the breakdown of the trade networks and just the destabilism because everything was already

02:11:18.460 kind of destabilized everything was decentralized in a way and then it seemed like just a fragile

02:11:25.000 thing it wasn't an anti-fragile system um and you know it's kind of you know it's very easy to read

02:11:32.960 this stuff and lose the human element it's very easy to read this and forget you're not talking

02:11:37.600 about like babies having their heads crushed by falling walls and like starving maniacs showing

02:11:43.800 up one day and you know it's like when they're describing finding the corpse is like we could

02:11:49.120 tell that this was an earthquake we found this family buried alive holding each other it's like

02:11:53.660 jesus christ oh we know this was an invasion we found all these kids with arrows buried in them

02:12:01.060 I'm like, oh my God, Jesus Christ.

02:12:05.040 See, the fire spread so fast.

02:12:07.560 We can tell because we can tell that this person was on fire

02:12:10.440 and ran while on fire for quite some time.

02:12:14.680 This is what happens when nerds get involved.

02:12:17.840 Yeah, Jesus. 0.57

02:12:19.100 Jesus Christ.

02:12:20.200 Anyway, but yeah, I guess that was the thing I didn't really think

02:12:25.000 I would come away with, which is how much you had to rebuild back then.

02:12:30.060 and then just one day you stop rebuilding which seemed that seemed kind of that seemed more sad

02:12:34.400 than anything it seemed that there was this resilience this this determination to always

02:12:39.920 return to land to return to somewhere but then people just kind of gave up i guess that really

02:12:46.400 they don't really know like this is just one argument like what caused what caused people to

02:12:52.980 stop rebuilding their homes that's really what we must ask ourselves we don't know factually so i

02:12:59.300 guess we can maybe look within ourselves to find the answer the positive side to it is other other

02:13:05.480 civilizations in the same region did rise back out of that yeah you know so i mean in some sense

02:13:11.420 they're still our ancestors and we are here so yeah but yeah it's it's it's strange the way they

02:13:16.280 kind of shifted that one yeah like look around you do you see a lot of bronze around so i guess 0.89

02:13:22.880 it worked out are we still writing on clay fucking tablets you know when's the last time 0.93

02:13:32.520 we kicked out the jews though really i mean yeah what do you think the ancient egyptians 0.99

02:13:37.200 would think about bronze age pervert i you're gonna get me in trouble i i still get messages 0.82

02:13:44.720 and emails about this i got one today i'm not gonna say his name because i he's i might have 0.76

02:13:50.240 him on the show actually um he's a toronto guy but reading me the riot act for is he a toronto

02:13:57.240 guy yeah i'll tell i'll tell you off stream i'll show you all right all right he's kind of an

02:14:02.840 interesting guy but you know i that's the one take i'm still paying for to this day even our

02:14:09.200 own listeners good men family men they're like look they they call me gay when they like this

02:14:17.080 is our relationship they call me gay when i'm right about things but when they think i'm wrong 0.97

02:14:21.760 they stop calling me gay and that's how i know shit's hit the fan yeah but man like going on 0.74

02:14:28.920 this is why i almost didn't want to talk about i'm like talking about the bronze age and 0.95

02:14:32.740 you know i'm not really talking there's no mention here of like a masculine martial class like what

02:14:40.060 it sounds like is more it's trade routes and people dying and everything sucks and sounds

02:14:45.840 like almost the opposite given that their warfare tended to include migrations of like civilian

02:14:51.280 people like and probably their agriculture didn't even support huge standing armies and also that

02:14:58.420 happened more than you think too there was not all the time but there was a lot of um viking

02:15:03.360 conquests where this is kind of funny um you saw the vikings see what the mongols see what the huns

02:15:08.840 too where if they were convinced that they were going to win a battle they'd bring their wives 0.88

02:15:13.360 and kids like to watch and then like part of it was like oh we'll set maybe we'll settle here but

02:15:20.300 also like look at dad and then but if it didn't go right then you had to like run away with your

02:15:26.460 family like huge liability damn but yeah i these historic accounts i would read more than i thought

02:15:33.840 i would about people bringing just everything with them they brought like like even the mongols 0.97

02:15:39.500 would have each each mongol would have nine horses and they would bring them all with them

02:15:44.620 i had no idea we'll talk about them next time but yeah yeah warfare very different back then that's

02:15:51.140 the other thing where like i think to talk if you want to talk about a martial warrior class back

02:15:55.840 then you need to recontextualize more as well like our idea of a warrior would actually like

02:16:03.120 our version of them as a warrior we different than how they thought of themselves as a warrior

02:16:06.720 in a sense but i don't want to get off an old thing i've said i'm not gonna get burned again

02:16:12.820 i want everyone to love me as you know you've done it she did i'm getting cursed for this

02:16:18.420 episode in real time you're hearing me no that's good delirious all right i'm gonna let you go

02:16:24.720 yeah buddy all right i'll talk to you later get well soon thank you bye

Blood Satellite - March 18, 2023

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