Candace Owens - They Are Lying About Tyler Robinson. ｜ Candace Ep 244

00:00:00.000 All right, you guys, happy Monday and get ready because we are going on a journey.

00:00:05.200 I left you guys on the ultimate cliffhanger last week.

00:00:08.220 I did not intend to, by the way.

00:00:09.580 I genuinely wanted to get the information out as soon as possible that Tyler Robinson

00:00:14.920 is not suicidal.

00:00:16.640 And I'm going to tell you how I know that.

00:00:18.800 Also, while investigating this assassination, there is a politician's name that keeps coming

00:00:25.280 up.

00:00:25.880 And now he's apparently mad that we keep asking questions.

00:00:29.320 I'm beginning to think that he might know something that he hasn't yet shared.

00:00:34.580 So I wanted to kind of loop you guys into this and see what you think.

00:00:38.420 Welcome back to Candace.

00:00:54.720 Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

00:00:57.440 Tyler Robinson didn't kill himself.

00:00:59.160 I mean, these are the phrases that we now use and that we say when we expect that the

00:01:04.400 federal government is telling us a lie.

00:01:07.220 Last week, I have to tell you, I was contacted by a source who I vetted with information that

00:01:14.200 answered a lot of the lingering questions that we've had about the investigation.

00:01:18.180 Not all of them, but some of them, some of the big ones.

00:01:20.960 First and foremost, we were like, how exactly did it work?

00:01:23.980 How did Tyler Robinson turn himself in, as we were told, but also never confessed?

00:01:31.520 And did he actually author those absurd Fed messages?

00:01:36.360 Because I'm thinking no.

00:01:37.960 Lastly, what was he doing at Dairy Queen doesn't really quite fit into our timeline.

00:01:42.480 Also, don't expect this kid who just tried out being a stone cold killer to really have an

00:01:49.560 appetite.

00:01:50.380 And why exactly did the feds withhold that information at Dairy Queen?

00:01:53.840 And why are they allegedly stalking the Dairy Queen to see who comes in and out?

00:01:58.540 Well, we have the story that could possibly potentially answer all those questions.

00:02:04.080 And it certainly makes a lot more sense than the slop that the government is currently trying

00:02:09.540 to feed us.

00:02:11.460 First and foremost, Tyler Robinson has never confessed.

00:02:14.520 They acknowledge that he has never confessed to this crime, and he still is pleading innocence

00:02:20.900 on the shooting.

00:02:22.740 In fact, I was told that he was, quote unquote, bewildered by the idea that he carved casings.

00:02:31.000 I should be clear, he does not dispute the fact that it is his gun at all.

00:02:35.840 It is his gun.

00:02:36.980 But Tyler is not exactly a gun enthusiast.

00:02:40.660 He doesn't hunt like his other brothers do.

00:02:43.520 In fact, he's apparently a fisherman.

00:02:46.540 The reason that he has that gun in the first place is because it is, in fact, a custom-made

00:02:52.140 family heirloom.

00:02:54.620 Tyler is the firstborn son, so he inherited.

00:02:57.960 That's what firstborns do. 1.00

00:02:58.800 They get the family heirloom.

00:03:00.060 That is why he has the gun.

00:03:02.000 As many of you guys have noted, the Robinson family appear to be conservative, hence the 0.67

00:03:08.320 hunting and the fishing as the sports of their choosing.

00:03:12.540 I am told that they are fans of Charlie Kirk and they are fans of Donald Trump, although

00:03:18.880 this source noted that Tyler, like many other conservatives have expressed, wished that Trump

00:03:26.800 would sometimes tone down his speech and his rhetoric.

00:03:30.160 Now, on the topic of rhetoric, I am told that Tyler absolutely did not author those text

00:03:37.480 messages.

00:03:38.500 What text messages?

00:03:39.700 He has no idea where these messages came from.

00:03:42.640 Believes that they are therefore entirely fictionalized.

00:03:45.520 It turns out, you're going to be shocked, that he doesn't actually use words like vehicle, which

00:03:51.780 should come as no surprise to anyone that has a brain.

00:03:55.520 By the way, I'm sure you caught this, but there's old footage of Tyler Robinson that is

00:04:00.760 now circulating from a car accident that he had.

00:04:03.980 And during the discussion with the officer that showed up, Tyler certainly refers to it as his

00:04:11.740 car, not his vehicle, because that's how most Americans, how most English speakers refer to a car,

00:04:21.600 unless they're in the military or on the police force.

00:04:25.620 So here is 2022 police body cam footage, in case you missed that, of Tyler making a crash report.

00:04:34.100 Take a listen.

00:04:35.780 Your mom's on her way?

00:04:37.300 Yeah, she's got to be a minute. 0.82

00:04:38.640 She's got to shuttle over from where she's at to her car and then drive over. 1.00

00:04:41.840 Gotcha.

00:04:44.120 His mother was going to shuttle over from her car? 0.99

00:04:47.600 Hmm, interesting.

00:04:49.060 There's more, of course.

00:04:50.260 Of most interest to me, what I've learned is that his father does not believe, his parents

00:04:57.560 don't believe that their son committed this crime.

00:05:00.560 I was like, huh?

00:05:02.000 Excuse me?

00:05:03.420 That's a far cry from what the media has been telling us.

00:05:06.800 Remember, the media presented this amazing story.

00:05:10.640 The father realized his son was guilty, so it goes, right?

00:05:14.660 And then he phoned over a friend to help him convince his son to turn himself in because

00:05:22.500 this guy, you know, this mysterious guy was a friend and just had a connection with Tyler

00:05:28.320 and eventually they said, you've got to do the right thing here.

00:05:31.320 We know this is you.

00:05:32.400 That was the vibe.

00:05:33.900 Certainly, that's what the media was putting down for us to pick up.

00:05:37.800 Well, I was told actually that it was kind of the opposite.

00:05:42.020 That, quote unquote, family friend, who we learned was a former detective with the police

00:05:50.200 force, at least, and so therefore has strong ties with the police station, informed the

00:05:57.140 family.

00:05:58.020 It was that in-between person that informed the family that Tyler had been identified as

00:06:04.740 the shooter.

00:06:05.480 He recognized him.

00:06:06.280 He knows Tyler.

00:06:07.600 He gives them the heads up.

00:06:09.240 And then I'm told, and I believe this, that the way in which he got arrested or rather

00:06:14.660 turned himself in was because that family friend slash neighbor slash former detective

00:06:20.200 told him, hey, it's best for you to turn yourself in because there's only one of two options

00:06:26.520 here.

00:06:27.160 Either you turn yourself in and everything is peaceable or, you know, the SWAT team could

00:06:32.880 come in here and arrest you and things would get crazy.

00:06:34.840 So that's what happened.

00:06:37.460 He went over to their house.

00:06:39.240 Tyler was called over.

00:06:40.420 Tyler was bewildered.

00:06:41.960 He disputed the idea that he had murdered Charlie Kirk.

00:06:45.180 In fact, according to my source, Tyler has never even stepped foot on UVU campus.

00:06:54.780 Tyler, it turns out, which has already been revealed, was accepted into Utah State University,

00:07:00.900 not Utah Valley.

00:07:03.300 And that's actually interesting if you pause and reflect on that, because we didn't really

00:07:07.640 consider how on earth Tyler became not just familiar with the layout of the campus, but

00:07:13.220 familiar with the rooftop layout of UVU campus.

00:07:17.660 So familiar that he knew exactly how to scale across the rooftops to duck down in order to

00:07:22.540 take an almost impossible shot at a Charlie Kirk who was sitting beneath a tent.

00:07:27.500 How did he know how to do all of that?

00:07:30.240 Had he been there before that he knew where Charlie was going to be sitting in it, that

00:07:34.340 he would have that shot from on top of the Losey Center?

00:07:36.880 What?

00:07:38.320 Right?

00:07:38.740 I would actually, and I don't know, but I would imagine that even actual current UVU students

00:07:45.680 don't know that possibility.

00:07:48.660 Like they're not even that familiar with how to scale the rooftops and what shots they can

00:07:54.200 take from it.

00:07:55.360 We'll see.

00:07:55.740 Uh, curiously, however, my source says that Tyler Robinson was nearby the campus on that

00:08:04.840 day.

00:08:05.360 I'm wondering if that fact, which I'm trying to learn more information regarding explains

00:08:10.720 the Dairy Queen photo, because what was he doing around the campus on that day?

00:08:17.120 Where exactly was he around the campus on that day?

00:08:20.480 This photo never made any sense.

00:08:23.960 I plugged it into my timeline.

00:08:25.580 It wasn't fitting in.

00:08:27.900 So if you're wondering why exactly Tyler would agree to go to the police station if he's not

00:08:35.280 guilty, ironically, the police were honest that day on one of the points.

00:08:42.180 Well, first and foremost, that point is Tyler is not suicidal.

00:08:45.700 Um, he wanted to go to the police station so that he didn't risk accidentally getting shot

00:08:50.820 by the police swarming his home, as I said earlier, in a theatrical arrest setting.

00:08:56.160 But rather confusingly, uh, Brooksby, Nate Brooksby tells us that Tyler is suicidal.

00:09:05.340 Whatever.

00:09:05.840 Let's just take a listen to, to what Nate Brooksby said after he had been apprehended.

00:09:10.120 Take a listen.

00:09:10.640 So, so I get a call from my friend and, uh, his, his, I said, Hey, how you doing?

00:09:16.460 Good.

00:09:16.880 And it's not, you know, he's been retired a few years.

00:09:18.820 He, he'll, we'll call each other.

00:09:20.420 It's not, it's not unusual for me to get a call from him or vice versa.

00:09:24.200 And at 8 0 2 PM, he calls me, Hey, I can tell his voice is kind of shaky.

00:09:30.220 So my first thought is who, who died?

00:09:32.320 Like who's, who's going to tell me that died?

00:09:34.440 And then, uh, and then I can't, I couldn't fathom what actually came out of his mouth.

00:09:38.920 So he said, Hey, um, I know who, I know who Charlie Kirk Shooter is.

00:09:44.820 Um, I, I know the family through religious association and, uh, he's in, he's in Washington

00:09:52.080 County now and we're working on trying to get him to come in voluntarily during that

00:09:59.120 phone call.

00:09:59.880 Um, some information was provided about Tyler, uh, potentially having some suicidal ideations

00:10:05.440 was in route to a remote area of Washington County.

00:10:08.920 Um, the parents convinced them not to do that and, uh, you know, conveyed that they

00:10:14.000 would, uh, you know, stand by him and help him, help him, um, surrender peacefully.

00:10:21.880 I'm told that's, that's not true.

00:10:23.940 Tyler was not suicidal at all.

00:10:25.940 He was just confused and didn't want to get shots.

00:10:29.500 Uh, and then he gets to that part, right?

00:10:31.820 He then tells us, Brooksby, that he came in willingly because he didn't want to die.

00:10:37.840 Let's take a listen to that portion.

00:10:40.560 Within the hour, um, my friend, uh, drove Tyler and his parents to my office where he was

00:10:48.260 greeted by, uh, plainclothes detectives.

00:10:50.540 So that was part of the, part of the deal is, um, Tyler knew it was just inevitable with

00:10:56.740 all the law enforcement pressure that he, you know, his picture in the news, the gun,

00:11:00.640 the gun on the news, he knew it was inevitable, uh, that he would be caught.

00:11:04.280 He was fearful of a SWAT team hit on his house, or he was fearful of being shot by law enforcement.

00:11:11.120 So part of the negotiation and getting him to bring himself in was that, that we would,

00:11:16.380 we would treat it as delicate and as soft as possible to make him feel comfortable to

00:11:22.640 where he would, he would show up at my office.

00:11:24.300 And that's exactly what happened.

00:11:26.460 It can't be both.

00:11:28.160 It can't be both.

00:11:29.160 Was he suicidal and wanting to die or was he worried about dying?

00:11:31.880 It can't be both.

00:11:32.620 And I didn't catch onto that early on.

00:11:34.620 It's the answer was he came in because he is not suicidal and did not want to get shot

00:11:40.700 and was confused.

00:11:41.700 As I am told now, you're probably wondering why the father and the mother didn't speak

00:11:45.200 out to assert his innocence.

00:11:46.540 That would make sense, right?

00:11:47.940 Uh, why don't you come right out and dispute everything immediately?

00:11:50.400 Well, interestingly enough, I'm told that it's because the feds told them that if they

00:11:55.980 spoke out, their lives could be at risk.

00:11:59.080 Like they, they needed to keep things private and they convinced the family to go into

00:12:03.960 witness protection.

00:12:05.460 Like your lives are in danger.

00:12:06.900 You shouldn't see anything.

00:12:07.780 Somebody could like, you know, just come back and try to harm you guys because of what

00:12:12.380 your son did.

00:12:13.160 You should go into witness protection and don't speak to anybody.

00:12:16.600 Trust us.

00:12:17.040 We're the feds, bro.

00:12:17.660 And they agreed, of course, in the fog of it all.

00:12:20.080 Why wouldn't you agree?

00:12:21.100 But then like any good, maybe conservative family, you start going, I don't really trust

00:12:25.560 these feds.

00:12:26.600 Like I'm a little suspicious about the feds.

00:12:30.280 Here's another point of interest, okay?

00:12:33.080 His father had no idea that Tyler was gay.

00:12:37.940 That's what I'm told.

00:12:38.980 They are learning this in and through the media.

00:12:42.060 They thought that Lance was just his roommates and they were especially shocked because apparently

00:12:47.540 Tyler kept mentioning to them that he wanted them to meet some girl that he was seeing.

00:12:53.340 Now, I would like to interject my own voice here and say that I think this girl was likely 0.99

00:12:58.660 Lance and Tyler was working up the courage to tell his family that he was gay.

00:13:02.360 That is what is most likely in my opinion because we know for a fact that Tyler was in fact

00:13:08.200 in a relationship with Lance because we have exclusive photos, by the way, they're about

00:13:12.060 to show you that the two of them posted to their Instagrams.

00:13:15.760 This is Lance posting Halloween era photos.

00:13:18.760 I forgot to post.

00:13:19.680 My boyfriend is the best.

00:13:21.040 Love you.

00:13:22.080 Don't worry.

00:13:22.660 That handle has since been taken down of what Tyler's handle was, but he's got a handle

00:13:26.220 that doesn't have his name in it, so he's maybe trying to hide this stuff.

00:13:29.380 And then there's another photo of them.

00:13:31.700 And this one's posted by Lance again, pics from when Tyler had a mustache.

00:13:36.140 You can see that they were in a relationship.

00:13:38.020 Just makes sense that he was working up the courage to maybe tell his family about that.

00:13:41.620 Now, I was told also that Tyler is off the charts intelligence and always has been.

00:13:47.480 We know this.

00:13:48.400 He had a perfect GPA in high school. 1.00

00:13:49.920 Now, that is precisely what made the idea of him being so stupid as to author a full confessional 1.00

00:13:57.660 via text messages pointedly absurd. 1.00

00:14:00.880 Like, any person with a modicum of intelligence is going to go, I'm not going to put this down

00:14:05.040 in writing with every detail.

00:14:06.320 And apparently, whoever offered those messages, likely feds, didn't have a modicum of intelligence

00:14:12.160 or they would have maybe not included every single detail there.

00:14:16.240 However, the family says that the photo of the young man that is coming up the stairs, which

00:14:24.980 was shared, that blurry image, is definitively not Tyler Robinson.

00:14:29.020 And let me just say, I never thought it looked like him.

00:14:31.740 Neither did you.

00:14:32.540 Okay?

00:14:32.940 Face looks different.

00:14:34.180 Face looks more narrow.

00:14:35.220 Also, that person looks taller.

00:14:37.640 Every time I say, I'm like, this person is taller than Tyler Robinson.

00:14:42.280 Tyler Robinson also appears to have full lips, even though this image is blurry.

00:14:46.500 We're not looking for someone that's got fuller lips.

00:14:49.720 And Tyler Robinson looks broader than that individual walking, right?

00:14:54.920 So I'm on board with that person walking up the stairs.

00:14:58.300 It's not Tyler Robinson because I feel like it was intentionally blurred.

00:15:02.700 They also never gave us the footage at all because in order to blur it, they probably needed

00:15:06.520 a static image.

00:15:07.360 Also, the family believes that, and this is really interesting, Tyler Robinson's apartment

00:15:13.780 was staged after his arrest.

00:15:16.100 Now, you will recall that I spoke to Lance's family.

00:15:19.100 And one of the things that Lance's family said was, it was, hey, we own that apartment.

00:15:23.020 They pay rent to us.

00:15:24.280 We've never met Tyler Robinson.

00:15:25.820 But I can tell you that it seems like they were trying to hide the fact that this, you

00:15:32.340 know, that this apartment got raided.

00:15:34.060 And it's very strange that they immediately cleared Lance as a suspect.

00:15:38.440 And I was told by other people in the department that they wanted to keep that raid very hush

00:15:43.980 hush.

00:15:44.900 They didn't want anybody to know about the raid.

00:15:46.200 There was no mention of this raid.

00:15:47.680 And Lance immediately gets cleared as a suspect.

00:15:50.260 Why?

00:15:50.720 Well, according to Tyler's family, they went to that apartment after his arrest, and they

00:15:56.720 felt the apartment was staged.

00:15:58.440 And that intentionally in Tyler's room, a furry bed was placed, almost sort of implying that

00:16:04.140 they're trying to transfer the attributes of Lance onto Tyler.

00:16:10.240 And that's shady.

00:16:11.920 But again, when I put together what I'm being told by Lance's family, and what I'm hearing

00:16:17.100 from the Robinson family, through a third party, I will say that it matches.

00:16:23.680 It kind of seems like they're agreeing.

00:16:25.140 One family's going, hey, Lance is kind of evil.

00:16:27.320 Why is he getting cleared?

00:16:28.820 And the other one's going, Tyler's not this guy.

00:16:31.920 Tyler is not this guy.

00:16:33.380 So what the hell is going on, guys?

00:16:36.700 What is actually going on right now?

00:16:39.000 So there's also something else that's weird that I want to mention here, and that is

00:16:45.360 the unusual lengths in which the media and the sheriff's department, they've gone through

00:16:51.880 all of these lengths, I would say, to protect the identity of that former sheriff friend

00:16:58.520 who was the one who convinced Tyler to turn himself in.

00:17:01.560 Even in that press conference, by the way, Brooksby, I don't like the way he's moving.

00:17:06.360 I don't like the way Nate Brooksby is breathing.

00:17:08.400 I got to be honest with you.

00:17:09.600 It's a vibe.

00:17:10.720 For no reason at all, he feels like he has to explain how he got on the phone with this

00:17:17.640 sheriff friend of his.

00:17:19.780 Like, nobody asked you whether or not it was usual for him to call you.

00:17:22.820 He's kind of over-explaining here, in my opinion.

00:17:25.920 Take a listen.

00:17:27.700 At exactly 8.02 on the 11th, I received a call from a friend of mine who happens to be

00:17:33.460 a retired detective that worked for me for many years.

00:17:36.480 I didn't put that out there initially.

00:17:39.460 I wanted to protect that individual as much as possible.

00:17:43.740 Unfortunately, in the court documents, which is standard, he was referenced as a retired

00:17:48.740 Washington County deputy.

00:17:50.520 So I didn't put that out there.

00:17:52.200 It was in the court docs.

00:17:53.280 I was trying to protect even that information and just saying retired law enforcement in general.

00:17:57.560 Why are you trying to protect him?

00:18:02.880 Why did you feel the need to explain to us earlier?

00:18:05.760 It's not unusual for him to call me, this guy.

00:18:08.480 But I'm fortunate that information is in documents that he was, you know, formally working for me and

00:18:14.140 working with me.

00:18:15.620 What do you mean?

00:18:16.780 If he was formally working for you, that would mean he was a public figure.

00:18:19.660 And this should be usual.

00:18:20.760 Public figures, people that work for police departments are always public and their

00:18:24.760 information are something, their name is someone we could easily research.

00:18:27.980 It's nonsense.

00:18:29.240 He's weird about this.

00:18:31.200 He says that he retired.

00:18:34.700 I think a journalist asks in the audience, like, you know, that former friend detective,

00:18:39.520 how long has he been off the force?

00:18:41.260 And he says, I don't know if we have that clip.

00:18:44.160 Maybe we didn't cut that, Skylar.

00:18:45.440 Everybody's like, three years.

00:18:48.900 But actually, we were able to figure out who that individual was.

00:18:52.140 And it's, I feel, someone that we need to get in touch with.

00:18:55.520 We've tried to get in touch with him.

00:18:57.760 The name of that individual is former Deputy Mike Mitchell.

00:19:02.240 Okay.

00:19:03.320 Deputy Mike Mitchell.

00:19:04.480 Now, oddly, despite a career of 25 years in the police force, I can't find a single trace

00:19:12.560 of him in old newspapers.

00:19:13.780 So I'm looking for more information on this guy.

00:19:16.640 I understand that he knows Tyler through the Boy Scouts.

00:19:19.860 He's involved in the LDS church.

00:19:22.120 And I think Tyler was, he was the Boy Scout leader.

00:19:26.460 That's the connection there.

00:19:27.820 We were able to confirm that this Mike Mitchell lives on the block, lives nearby, as was told

00:19:33.440 via other sources.

00:19:35.580 And thus far, we have only been able to even see a picture of him.

00:19:39.740 There's just one picture or a set of pictures that we were able to find.

00:19:44.640 And that, again, which would mean Brooksby lied a little bit.

00:19:48.180 I don't like a little bit of lies because you usually have to lie a little bit when there's

00:19:51.340 something bigger that you're afraid of.

00:19:53.500 According to this post, he retired last January.

00:19:57.880 Here it is.

00:19:58.560 On the left, you have Brooksby.

00:20:01.120 I don't trust that guy.

00:20:02.440 Just don't trust him.

00:20:04.140 And on the right-hand side, you have, today we celebrated the career of Detective Mike Mitchell.

00:20:10.280 After over 24 years of serving, 24 years, Washington County, he is retiring.

00:20:14.440 Starting in the jail back in 1999, Sheriff Brooksby and Detective Mitchell both had some wonderful

00:20:21.540 stories to share.

00:20:22.280 We would like to give our heartfelt thanks to Detective Mitchell and all who came out to

00:20:26.700 give him a warm send-off.

00:20:27.880 Congratulations, Detective Mitchell.

00:20:29.340 This is the only trace of this guy I could find.

00:20:32.420 That's weird.

00:20:33.460 That is very odd.

00:20:34.640 That is unusual.

00:20:35.660 That is an anomaly.

00:20:36.840 When you serve that long-lived police force, you inevitably make it into the news.

00:20:39.900 So I am asking, and we tried to reach out to this individual.

00:20:43.420 We have had no luck.

00:20:44.760 If you have any more information about this individual, if he is your Boy Scout leader

00:20:48.560 or he works for your church, please send us tips at CandaceOwns.com.

00:20:54.200 Guys, I'm going to again say here, we appreciate all of the tips, but please don't send us links

00:20:59.660 to somebody else's video and their theories because we're a very small team.

00:21:05.500 There's literally four of us.

00:21:06.680 And we want to get to actual tips pertaining to the questions that we're asking and that

00:21:11.180 we're looking for about the individuals that we're mentioning, not other people's theories.

00:21:14.980 If they have like a theory about what direction the bullet might have traveled, please reserve

00:21:18.800 that to our social media handles.

00:21:22.580 Tag us on Facebook.

00:21:23.820 Tag us on Instagram.

00:21:26.420 And we'll get a look at those videos.

00:21:27.900 But we really want to keep the tips lines for answers to the questions that we're coming

00:21:31.740 across.

00:21:32.800 And again, we appreciate you guys so much because we wouldn't have gotten as far as we

00:21:36.240 have if it wasn't for that tips box.

00:21:38.720 I do also want to say before we get into reading and telling you something even crazier

00:21:44.020 that happened.

00:21:45.640 I'm talking crazy, crazy.

00:21:47.800 I do want to assert here that I'm uncomfortable with the fact that despite all of the friends

00:21:55.120 that Charlie Kirk made, all the schmoozing that he did, presidents, right, department heads,

00:22:01.280 I am the only person that is publicly demanding further investigation into his assassination.

00:22:08.000 Why?

00:22:10.220 It's totally rubbing me the wrong way.

00:22:11.920 Something's not right here.

00:22:13.420 Even Turning Point USA, they're just like, we've accepted.

00:22:16.380 Obviously, there are holes in this narrative and they're just like, we're going to just

00:22:20.360 keep up his show.

00:22:21.160 What is going on?

00:22:22.500 Actually, I just want to say that and get it off of my chest.

00:22:25.260 I don't like it.

00:22:26.600 It's rubbing me the wrong way.

00:22:28.500 All right, guys, throwing it to some of our sponsors.

00:22:30.380 I tell you all the time about pre-born because I've watched way too many people that are close

00:22:34.700 to me be vilified for standing up for truth.

00:22:36.920 That's what I do here, just standing up for truth.

00:22:38.820 And I have felt that sting of media pressure and lies that are told.

00:22:43.160 But I've also felt something else, which is courage.

00:22:46.480 And I think that we have to stop playing defense.

00:22:49.060 We should not water down what we believe is palatable because silence is not kindness.

00:22:53.400 It's actually consent.

00:22:54.360 And right now, the greatest silence is around the lives that are being ended before they even

00:22:58.320 take their first breath.

00:22:59.340 If we're going to call ourselves defenders of life, we need to act like it.

00:23:02.440 And that's why I'm asking everyone to join me to fight back with action, with truth,

00:23:05.520 and with love.

00:23:06.220 For just $28, that is the cost of giving a woman that is in a crisis a free ultrasound.

00:23:12.580 She might be considering abortion. 1.00

00:23:14.260 But for just $28, you can help her see the life that's growing inside of her.

00:23:17.800 And you will be able to provide her with truth that I don't think the culture will ever

00:23:20.760 provide her with.

00:23:21.400 So don't sit this one out.

00:23:22.780 Don't wait for permission.

00:23:23.800 Be bold.

00:23:24.300 Be clear.

00:23:24.760 Be unapologetically pro-life.

00:23:26.140 Go to preborn.com slash Candice right now.

00:23:28.380 You can give $28.

00:23:29.860 You can also give 10 times that amount if you want to.

00:23:32.100 And if you can, this is the line that I think that we have to stand on, stand up for truth,

00:23:35.920 stand up for what's right.

00:23:37.000 And you can save so many lives from abortion and stand firm in the gospel as well.

00:23:41.100 Again, preborn.org slash Candice to provide an ultrasound for just $28. 1.00

00:23:46.140 Also reminding you guys about Tax Network USA because you might be someone that owes back

00:23:51.020 taxes or you might be someone who has tax returns that are not filed.

00:23:55.000 If you forgot to file for an extension, the October 15th deadline is fast approaching and

00:24:00.000 time is running out.

00:24:00.860 If you haven't gathered all of your documents or made any estimated payments, you could soon

00:24:04.640 be targeted by the IRS.

00:24:06.220 They can start to garnish your wages, freeze your bank accounts, or even seize your property.

00:24:10.120 But there is help that's available.

00:24:11.360 Tax Network USA is a nationwide tax firm that has helped taxpayers save over $1 billion in

00:24:16.540 tax debt.

00:24:17.400 They have filed hundreds of thousands of tax returns and assisted thousands in reducing

00:24:21.320 their tax burdens.

00:24:22.560 And they can help you as well.

00:24:23.760 So don't wait.

00:24:24.520 Visit tnusa.com slash Candice, or you can call 1-800-958-1000 for a 100% free consultation.

00:24:33.380 In one short call, the experts at Tax Network USA will guide you through some simple questions

00:24:37.460 to determine how much you can save.

00:24:38.740 If you can take action now before it's too late, again, visit tnusa.com slash Candice

00:24:43.600 or call 1-800-958-1000.

00:24:47.980 Okay, so something very strange happened this weekend, and I need to tell you.

00:24:52.780 I need to tell you guys about it.

00:24:53.540 I need to offload this and get your opinion.

00:24:55.840 Now, first and foremost, I have to tell you about this student who I'm going to refer to

00:25:00.620 as Nick.

00:25:01.300 Nick is not his real name.

00:25:02.380 I'm going to refer him as Nick to protect his identity, obviously.

00:25:05.260 I came across Nick very early on in this investigation.

00:25:09.960 In fact, you might recall when I shared a photo online of a person that looked suspicious.

00:25:17.160 He was wearing like a black suit and black glasses, and he seemed to have a strap hanging

00:25:21.840 out of his bag.

00:25:23.120 Here he is right here, and he was in the food court.

00:25:26.220 I shared that photo because Nick had sent it to me into our tips box and said, this person

00:25:32.000 looks rather mysterious.

00:25:33.120 He's running through the food court.

00:25:34.920 And from there, he kind of became my boots on the ground.

00:25:38.180 He was like, hey, I go to UVU.

00:25:39.180 I'm a major Candice Owens fan.

00:25:40.740 I want to help in any way that I can.

00:25:42.080 Okay?

00:25:42.620 So that's how that happened.

00:25:44.500 That was really—and right away, he told me on like day two of the investigation that

00:25:48.920 he worked on Phil Lyman's gubernatorial campaign.

00:25:53.060 Phil Lyman ran against the current Governor Cox, and he lost.

00:25:57.400 And one day, very early on—this must have been like day three—Nick cold calls me,

00:26:03.460 and Phil Lyman's on the phone.

00:26:05.260 Okay?

00:26:05.880 Like I said, he ran for governor, and I was prepping for the show, and things were early

00:26:10.280 on, and I was still in a very aggrieved phase, and I didn't really know I was on the phone

00:26:14.080 with this guy, Phil Lyman.

00:26:15.340 And I was like, hey, thank you so much.

00:26:16.260 I appreciate that you're offering help.

00:26:17.660 And Nick insisted to me he's a fantastic person.

00:26:21.280 He has tons of resources.

00:26:22.300 He knows the area.

00:26:23.580 If you need any help, he can help you.

00:26:24.980 Okay, great.

00:26:26.400 Fast forward to me looking into the witness list, and obviously, we spoke about this Tiffany

00:26:31.460 Peterson Barker, that very weird clip of her with her nieces at like 4 a.m. in the morning,

00:26:37.520 speaking on Good Morning America, and her energy was just weird to me.

00:26:41.940 I thought her being there was weird.

00:26:43.660 Obviously, this is my podcast.

00:26:44.820 I can say whatever I want.

00:26:45.860 We reached out to her, and then she gave us a ton of information, but never actually

00:26:54.920 presented to us.

00:26:56.720 She never sent me directly any footage that could verify that she was there when Charlie

00:27:02.120 Kirk got shot.

00:27:03.380 Okay?

00:27:03.540 And she was a bit upset that I didn't clarify that.

00:27:06.220 I thought it was weird that she wouldn't just text me the footage because it didn't allow

00:27:10.280 me to confirm that she was where she said she was.

00:27:12.980 That's what metadata is for.

00:27:14.460 Metadata instantly will say, here's where you were, at what time, and this is this person's

00:27:18.100 iPhone.

00:27:18.420 So, I wasn't going to lie to my audience.

00:27:20.880 I just told you guys, hey, you can check her out on her Instagram.

00:27:23.940 Here's her excuse.

00:27:25.220 She says that this is why her nieces said that, and we sort of moved on, right?

00:27:30.820 But then I learned from Nick that the photo of the person who was wearing that black suit

00:27:37.740 and dark sunglasses had come from Tiffany Barker's mother.

00:27:41.520 I was like, well, that's weird.

00:27:43.960 Whatever.

00:27:45.120 And then you'll recall, we learned from Tiffany when I was trying to figure out, how did you

00:27:50.780 get this hit on Good Morning America?

00:27:53.140 Like, did you share something that would have had them reach out?

00:27:55.400 Well, then I told you, she told us, actually, Phil Lyman is the person that put me on Good

00:28:01.020 Morning America.

00:28:02.000 My sister ran with him as lieutenant governor, and I was like, oh, okay.

00:28:05.120 So, Phil Lyman got you that position on Good Morning America.

00:28:10.520 You had, essentially, a connection there that made that happen.

00:28:14.320 Don't know how I missed this.

00:28:16.740 But then I learned that Phil Lyman himself was very involved in all of the communications

00:28:22.980 that immediately went out about the shooting, and that his car was in the driveway of the

00:28:30.080 now infamous TMZ footage, which showed the shooter walking twice that day by this house.

00:28:37.000 In fact, Phil Lyman says that he had just pulled into that driveway minutes earlier and had

00:28:43.440 just missed the shooter.

00:28:44.860 Here he is, in his own words, speaking to Kayleigh McEnany.

00:28:48.560 Take a listen.

00:28:48.980 I do want to linger on a moment for what you just told us, and I'm going to ask the team

00:28:53.500 to pull back up that surveillance footage that we've gotten from TMZ, from those neighborhood

00:28:58.020 cameras.

00:28:58.940 You said that in that footage is your driveway, and you parked there at 11.30 a.m.

00:29:05.280 We know this footage that you're looking at was taken at 11.49 a.m.

00:29:08.900 So you would have been on that street, that driveway, 19 minutes before.

00:29:13.260 Yes, right across.

00:29:15.740 Yeah.

00:29:16.600 It's not my driveway.

00:29:17.880 It's my aunt's driveway.

00:29:19.640 Parking lot was very full.

00:29:21.480 He's walking in front of my aunt's house there right now, and my cousin's house is the driveway

00:29:26.200 that is taking that photo, and my CRV, the gray CRV in the distance there, that is my car.

00:29:32.200 I parked there probably 10 minutes before he walked by, and I had not seen this footage

00:29:36.460 until just now, and it just keeps so many things that keep linking up.

00:29:42.280 It's really astonishing to me, and then we went back to this house afterwards.

00:29:46.360 They thought they had the shooter, so I took a friend of mine.

00:29:50.340 We went back to my aunt's house.

00:29:52.220 He said, well, we'll just hang out here for a while, and before long, the people were combing

00:29:58.140 the backyard, as you saw, she had the footage of that, and pretty soon helicopters are overhead,

00:30:03.840 and so this is very, very local to me, very, I mean, not only is it Utah, but it's kind

00:30:08.920 of my neighborhood where I spent so much of my childhood and all of my relatives.

00:30:13.960 This is really astonishing.

00:30:16.040 I got up yesterday morning at 6 o'clock to drive up and meet Charlie, and I haven't been

00:30:22.360 to bed since then because it's just one thing after another after another, and so astonishing

00:30:28.120 that this could happen in Utah.

00:30:32.980 Now, just to be clear, and to reiterate, 19 minutes before the shooter walks across, he

00:30:37.440 had just pulled into the driveway.

00:30:38.580 Phil Lyman pulled into the driveway.

00:30:40.340 He says that he saw Charlie Kirk that day.

00:30:42.680 We're going to get to that.

00:30:43.520 Also, when he says, like, he grew up there and his family, I mean, his family owns, we were

00:30:48.340 able to determine 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 homes right there.

00:30:56.180 Incredible.

00:30:56.500 Incredible.

00:30:56.880 Okay.

00:30:57.460 Absolutely incredible.

00:30:58.640 And that, his little press tour, obviously, now you're like, you know, explaining your

00:31:02.100 car was in the driveway.

00:31:03.000 So the issue's close to him.

00:31:04.480 That kind of makes sense.

00:31:06.220 Then he went on to Alex Jones and spoke about where he was when the shot rang out.

00:31:14.600 And what's kind of, and I'm laughing here because it's kind of absurd, he kind of sort

00:31:17.720 of blames it on these two random goth girls, maybe. 1.00

00:31:21.600 Like, he's kind of implying, like, there were these girls that were wearing black and maybe

00:31:26.040 they should be taken a look at further.

00:31:28.200 Take a listen.

00:31:29.140 Just yesterday, someone comes in and says, yeah, we've got video.

00:31:33.520 He came off the roof.

00:31:34.320 He walked up.

00:31:34.840 He came up here to the parking lot, got in the car with an individual, and they drove

00:31:40.100 away.

00:31:40.360 Well, that's not the story that came, so that he escaped another route.

00:31:43.800 And there are people who are coordinating this thing.

00:31:46.640 I do not believe that that 30-06 that they showed recovered in the bushes was ever on the

00:31:53.960 roof.

00:31:54.260 I think it was in the bushes to start with.

00:31:56.420 And now, I'm not saying that Tyler Robinson wasn't on the roof.

00:31:59.320 I'm not saying he didn't pull a trigger.

00:32:01.280 I was in very, very close proximity.

00:32:03.660 So another interesting thing, like I say, I left the front of the stage.

00:32:06.840 I wanted to meet some of my friends and bring him down front.

00:32:09.200 So I was clear at the east end, and I heard this loud boom.

00:32:11.740 I heard this loud bang.

00:32:13.020 And I turned around, and I'm looking, like, what was that?

00:32:15.000 What was that?

00:32:16.100 And pretty soon, some people started running.

00:32:19.260 Everyone was trying to process.

00:32:21.220 And I thought, this is a gunshot, and there's going to be more of them.

00:32:23.840 I thought it could turn into a mass shooting.

00:32:25.200 So I go to the people closest to me.

00:32:28.300 Everyone's ducking down behind the concrete retaining walls, and some of them were still

00:32:33.040 kind of oblivious.

00:32:33.820 But there were two people that were standing there, two girls, very goth, very black, you 1.00

00:32:39.420 know.

00:32:40.080 And I just walked, and I stepped up to the side of them, and I said, did that not happen

00:32:44.200 right here?

00:32:44.580 Did you hear that?

00:32:45.420 Was that right here?

00:32:46.040 They said, yeah, it was just right over there.

00:32:47.680 So they were confirming, yeah, the shooter or wherever that sound came from is right here.

00:32:52.160 The thing that didn't really dawn on me is that they were not running.

00:32:54.700 They were not frightened.

00:32:55.900 In fact, as I stepped up, I heard one of the girls, and they were talking to each other,

00:33:00.840 and they're looking at these kids, looking at the scene down below them of all these

00:33:03.460 people fleeing for their lives.

00:33:04.980 And she says, go F yourselves.

00:33:07.800 And like I say, I was not processing that.

00:33:11.240 I was trying to figure out what was going on.

00:33:12.500 I thought, this is a separate conversation.

00:33:14.060 I don't know what it is.

00:33:15.340 In hindsight, as I've watched that over and over, it's like, these people were not afraid.

00:33:20.060 Okay, so what I get from that is he was up high, because he says they're looking down

00:33:25.180 below, and that maybe people that are wearing black are immediately suspects.

00:33:30.400 I don't know, because they were not afraid.

00:33:31.980 Anyways, he also went on to a local Utah news station and spoke about how he was with

00:33:37.300 Charlie just before Charlie went on to stage.

00:33:39.600 Take a listen.

00:33:40.060 Phil, thanks for joining us, first of all.

00:33:43.540 But I saw a picture of you with Charlie Kirk, and it looks like you were like maybe right

00:33:50.380 before he went on stage.

00:33:51.720 Is this just like minutes before this happened?

00:33:54.980 Yeah.

00:33:55.500 No, I was basically backstage, and when he came out, I was throwing the hats.

00:34:00.840 I was there.

00:34:02.060 I was standing next to the stage, and I would have been there when the shooting took place,

00:34:06.380 but I needed to go meet some of my friends, and I didn't want to just hang around.

00:34:11.020 So there's a part of me that's glad that I wasn't in close proximity, and part of me

00:34:15.260 that feels bad that I wasn't there just in some form of moral presence and support.

00:34:22.020 It's such a tragic thing.

00:34:25.060 When I combine those clips, I'm kind of unclear as to where he was exactly when the shots rang

00:34:29.520 out, if he was close or if he felt bad that he wasn't close.

00:34:31.600 Anyways, he went on to Instagram that night as Tiffany was prepping her Good Morning America

00:34:38.080 hit, I suppose, and he speaks further about what he was doing back onto campus and what

00:34:46.420 exactly he remembers.

00:34:48.020 Take a listen.

00:34:48.800 Again, this is on September 10th, and it's around 1130 p.m. at night.

00:34:53.320 Hey, it's September 10th, 2025, and I was just heading back from Salt Lake to Blanding.

00:34:59.680 I'm getting a very late start.

00:35:00.780 It's about 1130 at night, and I wanted to swing back by UVU campus where Charlie Kirk

00:35:06.280 was killed today and see if I could let a few of the police officers know how much I appreciate

00:35:11.440 the work they're doing, see if there's some college students here that I could rub shoulders

00:35:15.640 with more for my benefit than for theirs.

00:35:17.960 But what I really wanted to share was I was very close this morning where Charlie Kirk

00:35:22.460 was at, met him backstage, and we talked for a moment before he went on stage, and I was

00:35:26.760 backstage as he started speaking and decided to go up top, and I went up to the top and

00:35:33.860 ironically was very close to where the shooter was, apparently.

00:35:37.940 The shot was very loud, and I determined pretty quickly that whoever it was was on the roof,

00:35:45.360 and it was a 200-yard kill shot.

00:35:50.720 Where was he?

00:35:52.100 I don't know.

00:35:53.240 I find this to be a little weird, but let's be clear.

00:35:55.660 By no means conclusive of anything other than perhaps a strange coincidence, and maybe this

00:35:59.740 is why he feels so impassioned and wants to keep speaking about it.

00:36:02.440 Also, you know, he's a gubernatorial candidate.

00:36:04.840 Makes sense.

00:36:05.700 This would be a political moment to show that you're a leader.

00:36:08.200 And look, life is not exactly an Agatha Christie novel, right, where the guilty party somehow

00:36:12.900 inserts himself into the investigation.

00:36:14.600 So I park by the side, I keep pushing, and I'm following more public leads.

00:36:19.760 But also, I do recall in the back of my mind that both Phil and Tiffany Barker, and as it

00:36:25.440 would turn out, another person that lives on that street with the last name Shumway, kept

00:36:29.640 trying to get me to look into Governor Cox because he's, according to Tiffany, very supportive

00:36:34.980 of the trans stuff.

00:36:35.880 You should look into Tiffany, Tiffany said, into Governor Cox.

00:36:39.140 And similarly, the Shumway emails were like, you should look into this Governor Cox because

00:36:45.540 he likes trans, so they're open and close.

00:36:48.540 That feels to me always just like fed bait, left versus right, right?

00:36:51.840 He likes trans people, so it has to be him. 0.97

00:36:55.560 Okay.

00:36:56.440 Oddly, look, I'm just following the facts here.

00:36:58.480 Nothing in my investigation has made me ask a question further about Governor Cox on that

00:37:04.480 day.

00:37:04.880 Nothing came up organically, so I'm not going to push it just because he's a Democrat.

00:37:07.700 And actually, where I was at, at this process, what's that?

00:37:14.840 Oh, pushing that because Governor Cox is his, sorry, I said Democrat because he's his, you

00:37:19.760 know, he's warring with him, and that's the candidate that he wants to go after.

00:37:23.680 And I actually start noticing as I'm looking into this investigation that everyone who was

00:37:28.760 involved on that day, I mean, literally the person who spots the shooter on the roof,

00:37:34.160 military, the person who says, oh, the, he, I just happened to be in the right place in

00:37:39.980 the Flag of Halls where I saw him running, also in the military.

00:37:43.180 And I'm starting to think, is it possible that this is like a military hit?

00:37:47.220 I don't know, but I'd like to find out.

00:37:49.800 Next came a tip that you guys saw me receive live on the show.

00:37:53.120 Someone paid, a woman paid to say, Candace, there's more footage of the shooter on that

00:37:58.060 day.

00:37:58.760 And you should know that that shooter was with a woman, right?

00:38:03.940 That's a tip that I've received, that that woman, the shooter was with a woman, and he

00:38:08.020 was seen changing clothes, and that they've cut out that footage.

00:38:10.720 So I reach out to that individual, and the name that they give me for the house that this

00:38:17.000 took place in, and I'm able to confirm that this property is nearby, is owned by Lyman Branch.

00:38:25.840 So now I want to be clear, I could not attach whether or not yet this individual is related

00:38:32.320 to Phil Lyman, but he's been honest about the fact that his family lives around there a lot,

00:38:39.560 like, you know, the Steel Lyman clan is here.

00:38:42.800 So I was a little bit on alert, maybe like a lot of bit on alert, and I decided to just do a basic

00:38:48.200 search into Phil Lyman, like, is his family in the military?

00:38:51.380 I don't know.

00:38:51.920 I'm asking the question to myself, and I'm quite surprised that it's impossible for me to find out

00:38:57.420 who his mother and father are.

00:38:58.940 Like, I literally don't know what goes on in Utah, but it seems like a very weird thing to me

00:39:03.740 that you would be able to keep information about who your mom and dad are private if you're running

00:39:09.340 for governor, right?

00:39:11.480 So I just simply ask Nick, I haven't shared any of this with Nick, because I know that he worked

00:39:15.940 for Phil Lyman, and I'm not accusing Phil Lyman of anything, I'm just, like, trying to actually

00:39:19.600 shut that down, and he says, I actually, I don't know who his mom and dad are.

00:39:24.780 I'm like, what do you mean I don't know?

00:39:25.760 Okay, weird, whatever.

00:39:28.020 I then decide to keep pushing on military leads that I have, people that were on the ground

00:39:33.780 that day who I've confirmed were in the military.

00:39:35.540 Anyways, then something insane happens.

00:39:38.200 Because Nick calls me, and he's a little bit undone.

00:39:44.080 He tells me that Phil Lyman has just showed up at his house.

00:39:48.360 Now, I want to be very clear.

00:39:51.300 Nick is 20 years old.

00:39:53.960 He's a 20-year-old UVU student and a major super fan of Phil as of 48 hours ago, and he's

00:40:01.320 very uncomfortable, and he tells me that Phil randomly messaged him saying that he was nearby

00:40:06.620 in town, in town, rather, and asked Nick for his address, something that he never had.

00:40:12.840 And Nick, quite naively, being this Phil super fan, thinks that Phil's going to come and offer

00:40:19.160 him a job because he's been so on it investigating this Charlie Kirk assassination, and that's not

00:40:25.280 what happens at all.

00:40:25.960 Instead, he says that he shows up.

00:40:28.280 He opens the door for him, and his energy is very weird.

00:40:30.880 And he's asking him weird questions.

00:40:32.900 He's looking out of the window nervously.

00:40:35.200 He sits down at the table.

00:40:36.660 He's asking him questions about my investigation.

00:40:39.100 I'm like, I shared nothing with Nick.

00:40:41.940 I literally was asking him, can you go here, pick up this, whatever it is.

00:40:45.600 And he is thinking this is getting weird.

00:40:48.740 I said, what specifically did he say to you?

00:40:50.640 Well, he tells me that Phil has also set up a time to meet with Ian Carroll.

00:40:56.620 Okay, so Ian Carroll is conducting his own separate investigation.

00:41:00.540 We are not collaborating at all.

00:41:02.040 But Ian Carroll publicized that he was going up to Utah because he wanted to be on the ground

00:41:06.220 physically by himself.

00:41:08.180 And he was reaching out to people who had been speaking about having been there.

00:41:15.300 And Phil Lyman is so gracious that he offers to give him a tour.

00:41:20.940 And Nick tells me, he's like, that's really weird now because we're like two weeks on from

00:41:25.560 the shooting and Phil Lyman lives four hours away.

00:41:27.940 So that's that's very, very gracious of him to do.

00:41:31.700 But his energy isn't good.

00:41:32.920 And then he mentions Governor Cox and he mentions Tyler Boyer of Turning Point USA and says that

00:41:41.420 again, this is according to Nick, that Tyler Boyer and the Lyman have been speaking and that

00:41:48.640 they are, you know, really going to make Governor Cox.

00:41:53.120 And I'm paraphrasing here, but apparently there's a another Utah event, USU event coming up and

00:41:59.120 Governor Cox is supposed to speak.

00:42:00.980 And Phil Lyman intimates that like, you know, this at this TPUs event, Governor Cox isn't

00:42:07.640 going to look great.

00:42:09.480 I'm like, what?

00:42:10.720 He then tells him, I'm going to go, if you don't mind, I'm going to take a phone call in

00:42:13.740 my car.

00:42:14.540 So he's just idling in a 20 year old's driveway who just happened to work on his campaign

00:42:19.140 and he's on the phone and this is he's why he's calling me panicking.

00:42:23.280 So I don't know what to do.

00:42:23.760 I don't know what to do.

00:42:24.120 I don't know what's happening.

00:42:24.700 I don't know why he's being so weird.

00:42:25.820 I don't know why he's asking me questions about this investigation.

00:42:28.060 And I'm like, yeah, this is weird.

00:42:31.040 This is very weird.

00:42:33.080 So then I'm like, I'm honing in here.

00:42:35.100 I'm like, what's going on?

00:42:36.040 I feel like he knows something at the very least.

00:42:38.280 Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I feel.

00:42:40.420 And I begin actually searching through our tips box for anything related to Phil Lyman.

00:42:46.800 Maybe somebody else noticed something or knew something or he said something.

00:42:49.800 And lo and behold, very early on, someone just messaged us and said, hey, like you should

00:42:55.120 probably ask more questions about Phil Lyman because every time I look into this investigation

00:43:00.300 locally, him and his family members are popping up.

00:43:02.780 And then that person tells me that his nephew had sort of done this public tour, like Phil

00:43:07.420 Lyman's nephew, did this public tour saying that he was going to walk the same route that

00:43:13.240 the shooter walked near his grandmother's house and that they found, you guys remember

00:43:18.340 this, they found the converse footprint nearby his grandma's house.

00:43:23.960 And he presented a map.

00:43:25.300 Like, this is it.

00:43:25.800 This is actually from his Instagram.

00:43:27.640 He presents this map and his nephew's name is Shane.

00:43:31.160 And this, again, this was all public.

00:43:32.200 I'm only looking at things publicly.

00:43:34.120 And let's just look at some of these posts from nephew Shane.

00:43:36.580 I mean, first and foremost, he's here.

00:43:38.540 He's with his friends said, I took my friends to my grandma's house tonight and we

00:43:42.340 retraced his steps and we took pictures in the exact place that the security cameras

00:43:47.200 caught him.

00:43:48.240 I've been through this new experience for the last few days.

00:43:51.780 I'm still very glad to have attended and to support Charlie Kirk and to see him.

00:43:55.320 The last pic shows converse brand footprints.

00:43:59.300 And then he does hashtags and here are him and the three friends.

00:44:02.400 And by the way, I'm looking at his, the front and the right.

00:44:05.660 And I'm like, I don't know.

00:44:09.080 I'd like to know who that is at the very least.

00:44:11.020 And I'd like to know who everybody in this photo is.

00:44:13.920 This is just interesting.

00:44:15.000 Like you guys are in the staircase and posting side by sides.

00:44:17.800 Like they put the side by side photos of them in the staircase.

00:44:20.500 And I just was like, I need to just know more about you and I need to know more about these

00:44:26.620 two individuals who I couldn't find on his friends list.

00:44:28.840 And they certainly hadn't liked the photo or else I would have messaged them directly

00:44:32.380 to figure out who they are.

00:44:34.340 And yeah, I found, I found that very strange.

00:44:39.040 And so I messaged Nick and I asked him whether or not he had ever received any images or videos

00:44:44.320 from Phil directly.

00:44:45.520 At the very least, we can see his line of vision so I can figure out where exactly he

00:44:50.320 was when the shots ran out.

00:44:52.520 And I'm wondering if like we can maybe get some footage that we didn't have before when

00:44:57.800 the shots ran out.

00:44:59.860 And also, by the way, metadata is king.

00:45:02.660 That's kind of been very, it's good to see because then I can put it in my timeline.

00:45:05.800 That's why I love metadata.

00:45:06.520 I can say this exactly happened at this time.

00:45:10.960 Strangely, Phil kind of freaks out.

00:45:14.280 He doesn't want to share those photos with Nick.

00:45:17.040 And he asks him explicitly, whose side are you on?

00:45:23.480 Whose side are you on?

00:45:24.520 I thought we were all on the same side.

00:45:25.480 We're all trying to catch Charlie Kirk's killer one way or the other.

00:45:28.160 You inserted yourself into this, got on the phone with me.

00:45:31.800 I was not even trying to make any communication with you.

00:45:34.400 I literally am just asking questions.

00:45:36.960 And now all of a sudden, it's like, oh, you don't want to answer any questions.

00:45:39.160 You don't want to share anything.

00:45:40.460 And he tells me that yesterday, Phil Lyman just calls him and he shouts at him.

00:45:46.440 Like, who the F do you think you are kind of a deal?

00:45:48.300 You know what I mean?

00:45:48.660 Like, who are you to ask me for anything?

00:45:51.660 I already gave my photos to Taylor Hanson.

00:45:56.240 And so at that point, I was like, look, you've been great, Nick, but I don't want you being

00:45:59.660 shouted out.

00:46:00.140 I don't want you feeling comfortable in your own home.

00:46:01.740 I would like you to just remove yourself entirely from the boots on the ground elements

00:46:05.360 of this investigation.

00:46:06.580 I don't think Phil is acting in a way that I perceive to be stable, given the fact that,

00:46:12.020 again, he inserted himself in this investigation.

00:46:14.420 And we're asking, this is my car on the street.

00:46:18.200 OK, you want to be helpful.

00:46:19.460 We're asking you to be helpful.

00:46:20.740 And now all of a sudden, you're showing up at 20 year old's house and you're being weird.

00:46:23.340 I don't like it.

00:46:24.040 I don't I don't I don't like it at all.

00:46:26.140 And I said, I could reach out to Phil directly by myself.

00:46:28.900 And I did.

00:46:29.640 I reached out to both Phil and I reached out to his nephew, Shane, and I asked for them

00:46:33.500 to identify the guys in that photo.

00:46:36.600 Like I said, I was interested in who those individuals were because I couldn't find it

00:46:40.740 on his friend list.

00:46:41.420 And in response, Shane immediately takes his profile private.

00:46:48.460 And Lyman, Phil Lyman, leaves me on read.

00:46:51.480 So I am now left in the predicament where I need to just ask the public, if you are one

00:46:58.080 of those two kids that are in the photos there, I would love to ask you some questions since

00:47:02.300 you publicized this tour.

00:47:03.820 I mean, they even did the full video walking through where he walked.

00:47:08.680 And, you know, he said, my uncle, he even posted he posted Phil Lyman.

00:47:12.880 So my uncle was with Charlie.

00:47:14.480 This is the video that they posted.

00:47:16.380 Everything was done publicly.

00:47:17.520 And now I'm like, okay, you could maybe, maybe you have something that's helpful.

00:47:21.680 I want to ask you about, could you send me that photo?

00:47:24.020 You send me that video.

00:47:25.200 You send me all of this stuff.

00:47:27.320 And now I'm getting radio silence.

00:47:29.080 So unfortunately, because I need to figure out what happened on that day, I'm turning to

00:47:34.220 the public to try to identify those people.

00:47:37.200 And anything else that you may know that may help put things together for us.

00:47:41.100 Again, please reserve the tips at CanadaZones.com for actual tips related to the questions that

00:47:45.520 we are asking, not for just comments, those sorts of things, videos that you'd like me

00:47:51.380 to watch, or things that you'd like to do to point me into a different direction.

00:47:54.500 Please just tag us on social media so that we can try to manage this process better.

00:48:00.540 Anyways, you guys, I've given you a lot, a lot of weird stuff going on.

00:48:03.500 Just need to know what on earth happened on that day.

00:48:07.620 Let me get to some of your comments here.

00:48:10.080 First, I want to tell you about American financing because the Fed has finally dropped interest

00:48:13.900 rates, and that's great news for American homeowners.

00:48:16.720 Expenses have been a major burden on families.

00:48:19.400 Wages are flat.

00:48:20.580 Prices keep climbing.

00:48:21.540 And for many, the only way to make ends meet is to lean on credit cards.

00:48:24.600 But that cycle of high interest debt makes it hard to stay ahead.

00:48:27.120 If you're a homeowner, you should call my friends in American Financing right now because

00:48:30.900 interest rates have dropped.

00:48:31.900 Many homeowners are seeing options in the low fives, and you can compare that to credit cards

00:48:35.680 that are charging rates that are right now in the 20s or higher, there is actually an

00:48:40.740 easier path.

00:48:41.640 You can see how much you can finally put your hard-earned equity to work.

00:48:46.400 It can actually work for you.

00:48:47.940 American Financing can help you pay off that expensive debt, free up your cash flow, and

00:48:51.380 keep your budget under control.

00:48:52.800 Their salary-based mortgage consultants are saving customers an average of $800 a month.

00:48:57.040 And if you get started today, you may even be able to delay your next mortgage payment.

00:49:01.240 Take control.

00:49:01.860 Call American Financing today.

00:49:02.840 The number is 800-795-1210.

00:49:05.340 Again, that's 800-795-1210.

00:49:09.060 Or visit AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens.

00:49:11.720 That's AmericanFinancing.net slash Owens.

00:49:15.100 All right, you guys.

00:49:16.200 So what do you think?

00:49:17.600 Is it weird for a gubernatorial candidate to arrive at a 20-year-old's house?

00:49:22.460 Yes, I can answer that for you.

00:49:24.020 That is weird.

00:49:24.600 That is very weird.

00:49:25.780 That was weird.

00:49:26.980 Okay?

00:49:27.240 There's no way around that.

00:49:28.120 And again, hopefully he will answer and he will just send me some videos and that will

00:49:34.940 be, yeah, that'll be a case closed and maybe he doesn't want to help anymore.

00:49:39.940 That's fine.

00:49:41.020 But you can insert yourself and then pretend you're under attack when people then go,

00:49:44.340 hey, can you answer some basic questions?

00:49:45.880 Um, Marzi is writing to us.

00:49:50.160 She writes, looking into the bullet made me think of the poisoned bullet when hit men

00:49:54.640 intentionally use a bullet to cause a lot of damage from tumbling and fragmentation.

00:49:58.780 This is done by keyholing the round to tumble or bounce into the body for internal damage

00:50:03.960 causing many wounds.

00:50:04.840 I actually did not know that at all.

00:50:06.420 I'm super ignorant on the topic of ballistics and things that are actually done.

00:50:11.040 That is, I never even heard about keyholing, so thank you for sharing that.

00:50:14.060 Caitlin Derrigan writes, Candice, as a journalism student with an insatiable thirst for the

00:50:17.800 truth, you are a true model of real journalism.

00:50:19.880 I hope to one day get the chance to work with you.

00:50:21.940 Keep doing everything that you do.

00:50:23.320 May God continue to protect you and your family.

00:50:25.200 I love you, girl.

00:50:26.140 Yeah, I mean, my insatiable thirst is to figure out what happened that day.

00:50:29.040 My gut instinct is that this was a military operation based off everything that I've seen

00:50:34.380 and the lingering questions that I have and some other leads that we are working on.

00:50:37.480 That's how I feel.

00:50:39.040 And even when I was trying to find Miss Mike Mitchell, I could find the Mitchell family.

00:50:43.240 I don't know if it's his family, but the Mitchell name in that area was coming up for like Air

00:50:47.000 Force.

00:50:47.660 And so I, again, when I get into these places where I can't find any more information, I

00:50:53.640 turn to you guys to help me out.

00:50:55.080 But I find it very strange that you would protect somebody who's been on the force for 24 years.

00:50:58.920 Like what?

00:50:59.500 You've always been a public figure, essentially.

00:51:01.620 And I think Brooksby has some nervous energy there when he's like, oh, he called me.

00:51:06.560 That's just totally usual.

00:51:07.560 It's not weird.

00:51:08.240 It's like nobody said it was weird.

00:51:09.200 So why are you answering for something that nobody said?

00:51:12.420 Little things like that.

00:51:13.400 It's the same thing.

00:51:13.940 Like when I saw Tiffany's interview, I just found it like most of you did to be odd, given

00:51:20.760 the fact that the hitman was still on the run, that you would bring your nieces there.

00:51:25.560 And she gave her explanation.

00:51:27.500 And like I said, you can go to her Instagram.

00:51:29.180 She has asked us repeatedly to send you guys to her Instagram, where she explains why they

00:51:36.920 decided to go back that early in the morning.

00:51:39.280 And like I said, Phil Lyman was the one who got her the hit.

00:51:41.660 Or Phil Lyman's office, her sister, got her the hit on Good Morning America.

00:51:46.740 Kristen Theret writes, Candace, I am so sorry for the loss of your dear friend.

00:51:50.180 I agree that it's weird that the people closest to him are just moving on.

00:51:53.060 I feel this whole story is very twisted.

00:51:54.640 And you are the only one who is capable of unraveling the truth.

00:51:56.720 Yeah, and sadly, the people that I am in partnership with on Demanding More Answers are not even

00:52:02.000 people who were friends with Charlie Kirk.

00:52:04.380 They're just like, obviously, this is wrong.

00:52:06.120 And this is weird.

00:52:06.660 And I'm on the left, maybe Max Blumenthal dropping.

00:52:10.000 He dropped a bunch of articles last week.

00:52:12.080 And I think he's got more coming out.

00:52:13.980 Why is Max Blumenthal, who wasn't a friend of Charlie Kirk, more interested in what happened

00:52:17.720 to Charlie Kirk than the people closest to him?

00:52:19.920 That strikes me as very odd, just odd.

00:52:23.120 I mean, no element.

00:52:23.980 They could, at the very least, name the donors, get a little bit of revenge, name the donors

00:52:28.280 who were pressuring him.

00:52:29.600 Tell the truth about what was happening there.

00:52:31.100 They won't do any.

00:52:31.580 They're just like, oh, it's all good.

00:52:33.340 It's all good.

00:52:33.780 No, it's not all good, actually.

00:52:35.300 Not all good at all.

00:52:37.440 Bitsy writes, the whole world is a stage used to hurdle the cattle in the direction that

00:52:42.000 they want to take us.

00:52:42.720 It's all lies.

00:52:43.420 I rejected all.

00:52:44.120 Lord Jesus Christ is king.

00:52:46.560 Indeed, Bitsy.

00:52:48.320 Miranda Allen writes, I wish I could do more.

00:52:49.860 My thoughts and prayers are with you as you find truth and also mourn a lost friend.

00:52:53.200 God bless and keep you.

00:52:54.720 Pray.

00:52:55.240 It works.

00:52:56.300 I really do believe praying protection over the people who are trying to discover what

00:53:02.100 happened is significant.

00:53:04.400 It is.

00:53:05.200 I really do believe that everyone needs prayer and protection at this moment.

00:53:08.680 Cassie writes, many people I follow on social media have lost credibility with me because

00:53:11.840 they are not asking any questions at all.

00:53:13.420 I can't imagine calling Charlie a friend and not questioning any of this.

00:53:16.700 Yeah, that's what's great.

00:53:17.840 It's like, at the very least, I would expect them to get up there and be like, what's up with

00:53:21.440 these Fed messages?

00:53:22.260 This is weird.

00:53:23.440 No.

00:53:23.980 They're all just like, let's move on.

00:53:27.960 And we're just going to, his legacy is going to be, we're just going to continue the organization

00:53:31.360 without him.

00:53:32.300 I mean, like I was thinking, if I'm Charlie and I'm looking down, I'm just like, what?

00:53:36.800 Dang, I thought we were super close.

00:53:41.340 Really?

00:53:42.460 We're like, the vibes are not vibing there.

00:53:44.960 I know Savannah would investigate. 0.93

00:53:46.360 Savannah's crazy. 1.00

00:53:47.560 Savannah, she would investigate. 1.00

00:53:48.780 She'd be crazy. 0.99

00:53:49.440 She was super crazy. 0.84

00:53:50.060 She'd be wearing all pink going down to Utah. 0.69

00:53:52.280 That's what Savannah would do. 0.84

00:53:54.240 Kaya writes, it's 1963 all over again.

00:53:56.920 They don't like people asking questions.

00:53:58.420 Furthermore, Ian being mentioned.

00:54:00.040 Yeah, random.

00:54:01.380 And I called Ian.

00:54:02.020 I was like, hey, just letting you know.

00:54:03.140 Like, I don't know, I don't think he's going to necessarily put you on a tour, try to help

00:54:08.300 you because he's not being very kind right now to this poor guy, Nick, who was like a

00:54:13.180 super, Phil Lyman super fan.

00:54:15.420 And I think that went sideways.

00:54:18.100 Kaya continues, prayer for you and him.

00:54:21.120 You're getting close to something.

00:54:22.280 Keep going.

00:54:22.980 Christ is king.

00:54:24.980 And then my producer has a note that there are a lot of comments asking about the microphone

00:54:28.360 theory.

00:54:28.760 Here's what I will say about that.

00:54:29.600 Now, I, when I first saw the footage, thought as well that something came upward.

00:54:35.340 But when I looked at image from the side, the microphone is still on him afterwards.

00:54:40.780 It's like when you see it, it looks like it kind of disappears.

00:54:42.960 But then it kind of shifts.

00:54:45.120 When you look at the perspective slightly to the left, you see that it actually stays on

00:54:51.140 him and it's just in the fold.

00:54:52.800 Again, I don't know enough about weaponry to say that that's possible or not possible.

00:54:56.920 But I would imagine if anything did sling into him with that kind of a force, it would fall

00:55:02.680 off.

00:55:03.260 And I can tell you it doesn't fall off.

00:55:05.180 There's another theory that I'm still looking into that has been presented that I think is

00:55:10.320 definitely interesting.

00:55:11.460 It's definitely interesting.

00:55:12.960 And I'm trying to play my cards close to my chest as I ask certain questions.

00:55:18.620 Probably we'll have more on that maybe tomorrow or the next day.

00:55:22.740 But yeah, I do think it's very weird that he was miked after he sat down.

00:55:30.380 Tell you that.

00:55:31.160 That's never happened to me at a Turning Point event.

00:55:32.880 They mic you backstage always.

00:55:35.700 So yeah, I thought that was strange.

00:55:38.380 There's a lot of things that were being done for the first time that day.

00:55:42.340 And I'm going, I'm planning on revealing all of them, by the way.

00:55:46.020 I'm just waiting for everybody to like join me.

00:55:49.160 Where are Charlie's homies at? 1.00

00:55:51.380 Why are you guys all silent?

00:55:53.200 Something's not right.

00:55:54.080 I know it's not right.

00:55:54.860 Okay.

00:55:55.540 We don't know now, but we know.

00:55:58.700 You know, we don't know now, but we know.

00:56:02.120 And soon we're going to know now.

00:56:04.660 And that's all I'm going to say about that.

00:56:05.880 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

00:56:06.520 We'll see you guys tomorrow.

Candace Owens - September 29, 2025

They Are Lying About Tyler Robinson. ｜ Candace Ep 244

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript