Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - August 26, 2026


Blake Lively Documents Just Dropped — And WOW !!


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00:00:00.000 That is really interesting. Did Blake go around telling people that she was in talks with Sony
00:00:06.560 about the sequel of this movie? Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Sershti Flore, journalist,
00:00:16.520 Hollywood truth teller and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:21.160 we got some new pages from Blake Lively's deposition. Now we got that timeline from when
00:00:31.380 Blake Lively received the phone of Justin Baldoni's publicist. And things are not really
00:00:39.520 adding up here. Let's get into that and other unsealed documents in this lawsuit between the
00:00:46.780 publicist that is really closely connected to the Blake Lyley versus Justin Baldoni and the
00:00:53.020 Wayfair lawsuit. Now it's clear that the people who once were on the same side colluding together
00:00:59.180 now have different interests. It's all about saving their own skin. No one is safe. And we
00:01:08.220 also got some more text messages surrounding how Stephanie Jones, Justin Baldoni's ex-publicist
00:01:14.600 denied that she was talking to the press.
00:01:17.960 And let's talk about this Catch-22 position that she finds herself in right now,
00:01:23.100 saying that she was still representing the Wayfair parties until May of last year,
00:01:28.800 while at the same time she was leaking confidential information about them to the opposite party.
00:01:35.900 This is looking so bad for Stephanie Jones.
00:01:39.820 Also, Raider Online has a very interesting exclusive story today,
00:01:44.500 talking about how rude Blake Lively is.
00:01:47.200 There's something really weird about that story.
00:01:50.220 Let's get into that.
00:01:51.400 And also, Mayday, Ryan Reynolds' movie is premiering in a week or so,
00:01:57.980 and now he's doing interviews.
00:01:59.740 But most interestingly, Apple TV is promoting the movie,
00:02:03.760 the trailer on their Instagram,
00:02:05.520 and they tagged Ryan Reynolds in it and the comment section is open. Yeah, there's so much
00:02:11.500 to talk about and happy birthday to Blake Lively. It is her birthday today and I can't wait for
00:02:17.800 People Magazine to make an article about how Ryan Reynolds has said happy birthday to his wife
00:02:25.660 throughout the years. Mark my words, they're definitely doing a story about that today.
00:02:30.800 So let's get into all the juicy stuff.
00:02:33.000 So as I said, parts of Blake Lively's deposition has now been unsealed.
00:02:38.860 And this is the part where she's asked about how she managed to get hold of Jennifer Abel's phone.
00:02:45.560 Jennifer Abel, as you know, was working for Justin Baldoni and she was an employee of Stephanie Jones.
00:02:52.680 And when she told Stephanie Jones that she wanted to start her own company and Justin Baldoni was coming with her,
00:02:58.360 stephanie jones got really mad and she confiscated jennifer able's phone and obviously looked through
00:03:06.840 all her text messages and now blake is asked in her deposition here how she learned about this 0.77
00:03:13.600 phone so the attorney is asking did leslie sloan her publicist call you and tell you that she
00:03:21.420 received information from stephanie jones about a smear campaign or something similar to that
00:03:27.120 and Blake says she did not. Did you learn from Leslie Sloan that there were text messages in
00:03:31.980 Jen Abel's phone? No. Who told you that? Who did you learn that from? Ashley Avignon, Blake
00:03:40.520 Wively says here. Ashley Avignon is basically Taylor Swift friends. We've talked about that
00:03:48.020 before. She was the go-between person here. She was contacted by Stephanie Jones because Stephanie
00:03:55.600 Jones probably knew that Blake and Ashley were friends I am assuming they're not friends anymore
00:04:02.960 because as you know Taylor and Blake are not friends anymore anyway she and then the attorney
00:04:09.060 is asking here who is that and Blake says she's a friend of mine I would say ex-friend anyways 0.99
00:04:14.040 and what did she tell you she said that a woman that she knows named Stephanie Jones was trying
00:04:20.960 to get in touch with me she gave me more details when did she tell you that and this is where it
00:04:27.300 gets interesting late august of 2024 blake says and did she tell you that in writing or on the
00:04:35.460 phone on the phone blake says and what else did she tell you uh she's asked here and she says
00:04:42.220 here that she was told that her name is stephanie jones and that she's a publicist and the that she
00:04:47.000 has a phone which contains the most disturbing messages she's ever read in her 20 to 30 plus
00:04:53.740 year career that as a mother and a woman she was sobbing reading the messages and Blake continues
00:05:01.780 to say that she thought that I deserved to see what had been done to me she said that she had
00:05:07.940 researched she said that she had reached out to my publicist Leslie Sloan to share the same and
00:05:13.940 was not and was brushed off but she said that she felt like I should see these messages and that
00:05:20.140 they were on a phone that she had ownership of it was a company phone so Stephanie Jones basically
00:05:28.080 told Blake Lively through Ashley Avignon that she owned this phone and all the content on this phone 0.58
00:05:38.600 I mean, if that was the case, that everyone's employer who owns the phone, who give you a company phone, owns all the content on that phone, that would be insane.
00:05:51.940 Here, Blake is asked, did you speak to Stephanie Jones?
00:05:55.200 And she says, no, this was relayed to me through Ashley.
00:05:59.080 And did you get a hold of those documents?
00:06:01.760 Eventually, yes.
00:06:02.980 When was that?
00:06:03.900 Fall of 2024.
00:06:05.500 When you say fall, can you be more specific?
00:06:07.780 i don't know exactly but i would guess october she says here this is really sketchy she's saying
00:06:15.620 that she can't really remember of course she remembers her lawyers obviously rehearsed her
00:06:22.180 really well before this deposition so she's being really vague i think it was fall i mean yeah and
00:06:29.560 i don't know exactly but i would guess october so you got this phone call in august is that
00:06:34.300 correct yes and did you you had no conversation with stephanie jones uh i did blake says here
00:06:40.580 when did you talk to stephanie jones for the first time likely a few days later i would guess
00:06:46.020 somewhere within a week i mean when you get a phone call that someone has the most disturbing
00:06:53.460 text messages that they've ever seen in 20 30 years and they were crying reading these text
00:06:58.500 messages about you you're not eager to find out what they're about so you just wait a week or
00:07:04.020 something like that and the attorney is asking was this still in august and blake says i don't
00:07:11.140 know if it was early september at this point i could still be late august early september
00:07:17.520 somewhere in there and was it just the two of you on the phone and she says i believe ashley was on
00:07:25.780 the phone as well you believe you don't remember these things when you got hold of this information
00:07:30.940 You don't remember if it was a group call or not?
00:07:34.580 Okay.
00:07:35.300 And what did Stephanie Jones tell you on the call?
00:07:38.420 Blake says she reflected more on what sentiment that I already share with you.
00:07:43.020 She reiterated that.
00:07:45.400 She said that she felt like as a mother and as a woman, there we go again, that I needed
00:07:50.480 to see these messages.
00:07:52.040 She warned me about the people involved and said she would like to get me the documents.
00:07:56.720 And I said it was really important for me to obtain them in a way that was legal.
00:08:00.940 and to be that lawyers needed to coordinate that yeah right Blake said that on this
00:08:09.120 three-way phone call that she doesn't want to know what's on those text messages because what
00:08:14.720 she thinks about is how she can obtain these messages legally yeah and she says and I said
00:08:21.400 it was really important to me to obtain them in a way that was legal and to be that lawyers needed
00:08:26.260 to coordinate that's really pushing her responsibility away and she says that Stephanie
00:08:34.700 said she owned the phone but agreed and she said that she would reach out to counsel did Stephanie
00:08:41.180 Jones tell you that she was that she that Wayfair was her client I don't know I knew that they at
00:08:47.840 least had been her client you is it correct in saying that you knew that Stephanie Jones was
00:08:54.400 the PR company working for Wayfarer. I believe so, Blake says. And you ultimately got hold
00:09:00.520 of those documents. I did, she says. What is Van Zandt? It's a corporate entity through which we
00:09:09.280 run our household or personal employees and security, Blake says. And who assisted in helping
00:09:17.360 to get those documents for you my lawyers says Blake just anyone else just the people I mentioned
00:09:26.040 and what are those documents you actually just got them and saw them and reviewed them is that
00:09:31.000 correct yes and then the attorney here is asking and you reviewed these documents that you got
00:09:35.920 from this subpoena from Van Zandt in and around October is that right and Blake says yes so think
00:09:44.240 about this timeline Blake receives a phone call on August 21st that's from other documents we've
00:09:50.960 learned that this phone call actually happened on August 21st she receives a phone call about
00:09:57.000 these text messages but then it takes about a month before Van Zandt was filed this fake lawsuit
00:10:04.840 and then another week or so before they file a subpoena to get a hold of that phone like about
00:10:11.720 six weeks from Blake learns about this phone until she actually legally gets it legally
00:10:19.020 uh I don't believe that I'm guessing when Stephanie Jones learned about this how Blake
00:10:24.960 threw her under the bus in this deposition saying that was her idea and she was willing to give all
00:10:33.860 of this to Blake without even having the legal component here so that's terrible terrible for 0.85
00:10:41.560 Stephanie Jones. Anyways, in Melissa Nathan's deposition, she says that she had a phone call
00:10:49.940 from Leslie Sloan on August 21st, the same day Jennifer Abel's phone was taken from her by
00:10:58.480 Stephanie Jones. She received a phone call from Leslie Sloan saying, basically, I've seen the
00:11:06.140 texts, you are going to get sued. Also, another fun fact here is that Stephanie Jones is suing 0.91
00:11:13.500 the Wayfair Party and Justin Boldoni for breach of contract. She said that they were not able
00:11:19.900 to cancel this contract that they had with her and go with Jennifer Abel because they had signed
00:11:27.280 a contract until May of 2025 but by saying that that they were still under contract with her
00:11:36.900 and then at the same time this evidence come out that she was shopping around to try and find
00:11:44.100 someone who was willing to look at these confidential text messages about her client
00:11:50.620 I mean, this is insane.
00:11:53.720 Also, we do have the subpoena now that was sent to Stephanie Jones.
00:11:59.540 As you know, Blake created this fake lawsuit from her company, Van Zandt.
00:12:04.240 And the reason she used Van Zandt is pretty obvious.
00:12:07.420 She wanted this to be under the radar because if she had made this fake lawsuit under her 0.99
00:12:13.100 own name, that would have been picked up by the press somewhere.
00:12:16.140 But no one knew what this Van Zandt company was.
00:12:19.020 So it was a safe way to go.
00:12:20.900 And as we also know, that fake lawsuit was dropped the day before Blake actually filed
00:12:27.360 her CRD complaint in California.
00:12:30.200 There's also, by the way, I have to mention this before I forget, there's also a very
00:12:34.000 interesting small little detail at the end of this document here, because there's some
00:12:39.100 corrections that were made, some corrections of transcriptions or grammar, it says here,
00:12:45.660 and a correction of spelling error was made by at this point it says here where someone asked Blake
00:12:53.980 have you ever told anyone that you were in talks with Sony about obtaining the rights to the sequel
00:13:00.060 we don't know what she responded to that but that is really interesting did Blake go around
00:13:07.860 telling people that she was in talks with Sony about the sequel of this movie I mean
00:13:14.500 did blake tell the other actors jenny slade isabella ferrer brandon sklenar other people
00:13:23.400 involved that she was already in talks with sony about the sequel so they better get on her side
00:13:30.320 here i really hope we're gonna find the answer for that soon as you know there's another big
00:13:34.760 gun sealing coming up in september probably both parties have until september 4th as i said
00:13:41.420 yesterday to fight whatever is left to unseal but the judge has been very clear that he wants
00:13:49.220 transparency and he wants all the information out there in the public uh in the Blake Lively
00:13:56.340 versus Justin Baldoni wafer lawsuit so big dump ahead you guys another thing that was just revealed
00:14:03.560 or unsealed is some text messages or emails where Stephanie Jones is denying that she spoke
00:14:11.060 to the Daily Mail. So the reason Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair Party said the reason why they
00:14:18.300 fired her and wanted to go with Jennifer Abel was because Jones didn't listen to them when they said
00:14:24.320 do not talk to the press. So there was a truce going on here between Blake Lively's publicist
00:14:32.200 Leslie Sloan and Justin Baldoni's publicist saying let's not go to the press, let's not leak
00:14:39.000 anything to the press it's only going to hurt the movie and that was in no one's interest but we know
00:14:45.220 that Leslie Sloan didn't care about this because we've seen text messages between her and James
00:14:51.820 Vitushka over at Daily Mail when Leslie Sloan was planting this story that there was friction
00:14:57.900 on the set between Justin and Blake and Justin didn't respect her as a woman and he didn't want
00:15:05.120 the female gaze of this movie and everyone in the cast hated him all that stuff that came out in the
00:15:12.600 beginning of this mess and stephanie jones refuses that she actually broke this truce and said that
00:15:20.640 she never spoke to the daily mail about that article we have no evidence if she did or if she
00:15:28.420 did not but this is where it gets interesting sony told the wafer parties that they got information
00:15:37.120 that stephanie jones was talking to the daily mail so who gave sony that information if james
00:15:45.860 over a daily mail had any integrity he would never share a source with sony which is something that
00:15:55.320 Stephanie Jones mentions in these emails like hey a journalist will never reveal their source
00:16:01.460 and if they're ethical they won't but I have my doubts about James Svitushka but the story that
00:16:07.720 makes more sense to me is that Leslie Sloan Blake's publicist called Sony and said Stephanie
00:16:15.300 Jones is talking to the Daily Mail. I have no doubt that James Svitushka told Leslie Sloan
00:16:25.160 that he's talking to Stephanie Jones.
00:16:28.200 Leslie Sloan hated Stephanie Jones
00:16:31.340 and so did James Vitushka over Daily Mail.
00:16:34.000 They both used the C word to describe her.
00:16:38.540 So for Leslie Sloan to call Sony and say,
00:16:41.560 hey, Stephanie Jones is talking to the Daily Mail, 0.91
00:16:45.760 by doing that, she could throw Stephanie Jones under the bus
00:16:49.040 and also paint Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair Party
00:16:53.600 in a bad light because how would Sony know that this wasn't something that they pushed for anyways 0.90
00:16:59.980 this is a huge mess and I don't understand how Stephanie Jones sleep at night because if she 1.00
00:17:05.560 wants to continue this lawsuit until summary judgment a lot more information is going to come 1.00
00:17:11.200 out and that's going to happen in a month or two so anyways I'll keep you posted on the other
00:17:15.940 unsealed documents as soon as they're available so yes lots of fun stuff ahead also I saw the
00:17:23.580 this article in radar online not that radar online is very reliable in any way but there's so many
00:17:30.220 things about this article that's really questionable so it says here that exclusive
00:17:35.300 blake lively backlash gossip girl alum is effortlessly rude and act like everyone is
00:17:42.940 beneath her source claim so here and here they say blake lively's attitude and behavior on the 0.95
00:17:51.940 set of It Ends With Us, apparently made her unpopular in certain crowds in Hollywood,
00:17:57.240 Radar Online has learned. According to a source, the Gossip Girl star thinks she's God's gift to 0.98
00:18:04.540 entertainment and treated the crew poorly while filming. She threw her weight around and acted 0.66
00:18:11.240 like everyone was beneath her, the insider told Radar in resurfaced comments. Anyone who wasn't 1.00
00:18:19.440 agreeing with her was viewed as the enemy, a separate source dubbed the mother of four
00:18:24.760 effortlessly rude. Then the article continues repeating a lot of the stuff that happened and
00:18:30.680 came out in the lawsuit and her fallout with Taylor Swift. But what I found interesting here
00:18:35.800 is that none of these quotes are actually new. So that effortlessly rude quote came from a Daily
00:18:41.740 mail article from august 18th of 2024 and then that she threw her weight around and acted like
00:18:49.920 everyone was beneath her appeared in the national inquire's september 9 2024 issue so they're kind
00:18:57.140 of saying here that these are resurfaced comments but then they brand this article exclusive meaning
00:19:04.180 that they're the only ones who had access to this material which is basically not true so why are
00:19:10.080 they're recycling these old comments and making it look like it's something new here I don't know
00:19:15.720 the only reason I could find is that they know that people click on stories about Blake Lively
00:19:22.160 and especially if she's labeled rude this says a lot about where the public sentiment is right now
00:19:29.300 because if publications are recycling old quotes just to make Blake look bad that is pretty telling
00:19:36.460 to me anyways let's look at this trailer from Mayday or is it like a scene I actually didn't
00:19:43.460 watch the whole thing I just saw it was posted on Ryan Reynolds Instagram and I found it a bit
00:19:49.680 interesting because as I've said before when Apple TV has promoted this movie Mayday that's coming
00:19:57.460 out I think on September 4th they haven't tagged or collaborated with Ryan Reynolds in any post
00:20:06.440 or they just collaborated with Skydance and Maximum Effort but this time they actually
00:20:14.420 collaborated with him and that means if they don't close off the comment section
00:20:19.340 neither can Ryan. So when I looked at this I was like wow the comment section is open
00:20:27.760 and worth noting here the reel has about 57 000 likes and only 101 comments and some of them are
00:20:40.320 a little negative towards ryan but there's no outrageous rage or anything like that that we
00:20:46.480 usually see on post promoting ryan reynolds content so i believe that they hired or maybe
00:20:55.460 Ryan did, hire someone 24-7 to sit and delete negative comments on this reel. Because when you
00:21:04.960 look at the reel or the trailer when Apple TV posted that just a few weeks ago, or is it a week
00:21:12.100 ago, something like that, they didn't tag Ryan or they didn't collaborate with him. And you look at
00:21:17.680 the comment section and it's blowing up. Everyone is like, oh no, no thank you, I'll pass this, I hate
00:21:24.800 Ryan Reynolds blah blah blah so they received a lot of backlash and this time for some reason
00:21:30.520 it's not as aggressive so yeah let me know what you think do you think that Ryan Reynolds or maybe
00:21:38.420 Apple hired someone full-time to sit and delete negative comments on this Instagram post I mean
00:21:46.660 when you know how they operate behind the scenes on social media these days how Ryan Reynolds is
00:21:51.900 engaging in all this anti-Baldoni content nothing surprises me. It's going to be interesting to see
00:21:59.140 because I have a couple of colleagues who are interviewing Ryan Reynolds for this movie later
00:22:05.580 this week. He's going to be paired up with Kenneth Branagh and I'm curious to find out the chemistry
00:22:12.520 between the two of them and how Ryan Reynolds was behaving so I'll keep you posted on a little
00:22:18.380 insight info there and also if any of these interviews from this press junket is going to be
00:22:26.260 published on youtube and if they're gonna keep the comment section open let's see this is the
00:22:32.380 big test for ryan to see if he's still bankable and if any other studio or streamer are going to
00:22:40.760 risk collaborating with him in the near future yes anyways that's it for me today you guys thank
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