Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 11, 2025


DESPERATE move just BACKFIRED for Blake !!


Episode Stats

Length

18 minutes

Words per Minute

159.31688

Word Count

2,895

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

5


Summary

In this episode, I discuss the Rolling Stone article linking the Swift v Lively smear campaign and astroturfing scandal to a cyber attack on Taylor Swift, and why I believe there was no such smear campaign at all.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 yeah the only person I can come up with who has an interest of harming Taylor to say hey this is
00:00:06.960 what it feels like to have a smear campaign against you you should have supported me
00:00:10.640 the only person that would think like that I don't know guess who
00:00:14.620 hi and welcome to Flossom Talk I'm Saskia Floor journalist Hollywood truth teller and your voice
00:00:24.640 a reason in a town built on delusion okay I was just interviewed by Daily Mail so look out for
00:00:32.680 that article I'm sure it's going to be published later today they were asking me questions around
00:00:38.380 my vindication that it's now official that I had nothing to do with the alleged smear campaign
00:00:44.620 against Blake Lively and there's an article in the Rolling Stone that a lot of people sent me
00:00:49.420 this is very interesting because they are talking about an alleged smear campaign or like a cyber
00:00:56.620 attack against Taylor Swift and they're trying to link this to what happened to Blake Lively
00:01:03.340 with this astroturfing that she experienced coming from bots by first glance you think this article
00:01:11.020 might help Blake Lively but I believe the complete opposite of that and I'll tell you why also the
00:01:18.640 judge is so tired of Blake's shenanigans now he is pushing for a settlement I don't know if that's
00:01:26.180 going to happen I think mostly in these cases that's part of the procedure that the judge wants that to
00:01:32.020 happen but he's basically saying now we've seen most of the evidence or he has we haven't yet still
00:01:37.320 waiting for that and he thinks it's time for them to have a chat we'll get into that okay so let's talk
00:01:43.160 about this article in the Rolling Stone first because this has been sent to me by so many people and a lot
00:01:48.340 people online are talking about it so basically in this article they're claiming that Taylor Swift
00:01:55.400 was the target of a coordinated attack online and they're accusing her of being a MAGA icon
00:02:02.580 and secretly using jazzy symbols I'm not going to say that word because that's not a good idea on
00:02:08.200 YouTube anyways they're saying that all these lies were spread about Taylor online and it started
00:02:13.800 inorganically and then it was picked up by real people and spread all over the internet I have to
00:02:21.500 be honest and I have to say that I follow things on social media pretty closely and I never heard
00:02:27.640 about these theories surrounding Taylor Swift let me know if you came across any of these stories about
00:02:34.560 Taylor so this apparently was supposed to happen around the release of her new album first of all one
00:02:41.020 thing this article is doing is stating the fact that Blake Lively was a victim of astroturfing
00:02:47.620 because they're saying this happened to Taylor Swift and it also happened to Blake so they're actually
00:02:54.000 claiming facts here that has not been proven in court or anywhere else for that matter so someone hired a
00:03:00.820 company named Gudea to look into this bot activity we don't know who hired Gudea yet it could have been
00:03:08.360 Lake Lively for example I doubt that Taylor Swift wanted to look into this herself it is not something
00:03:14.720 that typically she would do but I'm not going to say that I know anything more than anyone else because
00:03:19.640 I don't but anyways the CEO of that company told Rolling Stone as part of a goal for these types of
00:03:26.400 narratives for whomever is pushing them especially with these inflammatory ones that's going to get
00:03:33.780 rewarded by the algorithm you'll see the influencers jump on it first because it's going to get them
00:03:41.300 clicks interestingly enough that made me think about what New York Times did to me when they spread a
00:03:47.640 conspiracy theory about me and everyone picked it up anyways that might be true that influencers are
00:03:53.920 jumping on conspiracy theories but influencers here in this case when it comes to Blake Lively
00:04:00.560 are the people who actually did their due diligence because influencers journalists and content creators
00:04:07.800 actually took the time to read the court papers and reported on it most coverage that we've seen
00:04:14.440 in mainstream media about this case is either sloppy ignorant or biased on purpose a lot of the stories
00:04:22.920 I've read so far this year proves to me that most journalists covering this case for mainstream media have not read
00:04:34.280 the legal papers they've been fed stories by either sides here I'm not saying that Blake is the only one who's
00:04:43.380 feeding the media with stories but I'm saying that what I believe to be true is that most journalists
00:04:49.920 journalists don't even know how to handle or how to even access the court docket so what they've been
00:04:56.360 covering is basically evidence that's been fed to them or they have copied and pasted other journalists
00:05:01.360 who have covered this story anyways let's get back to this Rolling Stone article so what these researchers
00:05:07.500 claim to have found here the Gudea researchers for that company say that they found that the same
00:05:15.120 bot network that was behind the attack on Taylor were also attacking Blake Lively if that's true
00:05:22.880 I think it completely destroys Blake Lively's claim about this smear campaign and this is why
00:05:30.480 Blake claims that Baldoni and the Wayfair parties created a smear campaign against her
00:05:38.860 she's saying their motive was SH so this was a retaliation campaign against her and if you think about that
00:05:47.340 why would Justin Baldoni and his team turn around and create the same smear campaign against Taylor Swift
00:05:55.840 they have no reason to do that obviously they have nothing against Taylor for all we know they've kind of
00:06:03.940 collaborated with Taylor at one point when her father Taylor Swift's dad called Brian Friedman
00:06:10.880 Justin Baldoni's lawyer and told him that hey Blake Lively tried to blackmail Taylor Swift and said that
00:06:19.820 if she didn't support her publicly she would release text messages 10 years of text messages whatever so it
00:06:25.960 doesn't make any sense that it's the same people behind hiring this bot farm to smear people this tells me one thing
00:06:35.940 and that is that these bot attacks are very common it happens all the time I think if they looked into
00:06:43.500 a hundred different celebrities that are famous people they would find the same kind of pattern
00:06:52.120 this is called conspiracy theories and another point here is that what these conspiracy theories or these bots
00:07:00.060 spread about Taylor Swift are obviously lies where are these lies that these bots allegedly
00:07:06.880 spread about Blake Lively I haven't really come across any lies any narrative that got legs about Blake Lively
00:07:16.180 that wasn't coming directly from her own actions that's also where this whole thing doesn't really make sense
00:07:24.560 where are the conspiracy theories around Blake Lively that she was difficult to work with
00:07:30.060 well we've seen a lot of real people come out and talk about that so those are not conspiracy theories
00:07:35.960 these basically shows that there are interests out there of creating conspiracy theories and that's old news
00:07:44.520 and some people will obviously jump on them and spread them and hope that we'll get them and hope that it
00:07:50.420 will get them clicks but most of the time these kind of lies don't really get legs and then you also have
00:07:57.080 to think about who would do this to harm Taylor Swift who could be behind this to me the person that is
00:08:04.460 really after Taylor Swift right now and is not friends with her anymore is Blake Lively who knows what she
00:08:11.020 hired Nick Shapiro to do the ex-CIA agent that we haven't heard from since she hired him what has he been up to
00:08:19.220 we could might as well say that this is Blake Lively's doing maybe she even created this smear campaign against
00:08:26.320 herself who knows people are so crazy yeah it doesn't make any sense to me that a person or a company could hire
00:08:35.860 these bots to work in their favor or to spread these conspiracy theories what I've seen in documentaries
00:08:44.120 made about conspiracy theorists there are just lonely people sitting in a basement somewhere coming up
00:08:51.280 with these stories that they managed to spread online pretty fast and as I said I haven't even heard
00:08:57.260 any of these stories about Taylor Swift so it didn't really reach the mainstream it didn't really reach the
00:09:02.000 public if you ask me I would like to see some more research being done here because we need to know
00:09:08.380 who runs these bot companies and also they need to find the connection between this alleged bot farm
00:09:16.420 that they are accusing Baldoni and the Wayfair Party to hire we need to see that connection there they have
00:09:23.560 never they have not been able to prove that so far and we know that they have zero evidence of any of
00:09:30.320 these claims so that's why I think this is another planted PR piece maybe it's even an olive branch
00:09:38.420 from Blake to Taylor saying you know I know that they did the same thing to me that they did to you
00:09:45.640 and now we're in the same boat here so maybe we should still be friends another thing here that's
00:09:51.680 interesting is that was Taylor actually harmed by this because Blake is claiming that she was so harmed
00:09:59.440 by this retaliation campaign that she should get 161 million dollars all together with all damages and
00:10:07.160 whatever all these legal terms she should get like 650 million dollars from this because she lost so much
00:10:14.240 work due to this damage to her reputation so if that's the case how come Taylor Swift's album was such a
00:10:23.920 huge success in the middle of this smear campaign to me that really undermines Blake's claims because
00:10:30.480 if this bot attack didn't actually harm Taylor how come it harmed Blake so much one of the reasons why I
00:10:38.960 also believe that this might be a part of the PR game and a planted story by Blake's team is because
00:10:46.320 they are putting Blake into this story what's the reasoning for that why do they want to connect
00:10:52.480 these stories together there is as I said there is nothing similar about these cyber attacks there were
00:11:00.540 conspiracy theories and lies planted about Taylor Blake can't prove that there's any lies or any
00:11:07.640 conspiracy theories about her that was spread to this extent also as I said who was trying to harm Taylor
00:11:15.740 then there needs to be an intent here she didn't accuse anyone of SH yeah the only person I can
00:11:22.760 come up with who has an interest of harming Taylor to say hey this is what it feels like to have a smear
00:11:29.800 campaign against you you should have supported me the only person that would think like that I don't know
00:11:35.200 guess who anyway someone sent me this article from Norway and this again just proves how sloppy
00:11:43.500 journalism can spread lies so this journalist obviously read the article in the Rolling Stone that was
00:11:51.500 also picked up by the Guardian and they write I'll translate from Norwegian that scientists found the
00:11:59.540 connection between the accounts attacking Swift and the ones who spread lies about the actress Blake Lively
00:12:09.640 so now they use this information that never says anywhere in the Rolling Stone article that these accounts
00:12:16.940 spread lies about Blake Lively but in Norway where they rewrote this article they just translated it into
00:12:25.100 that so that's how easy things get twisted in the media as well and it's so interesting how they're
00:12:32.600 accusing the influencers the content creators and online journalists of doing that when they're actually
00:12:40.440 the ones doing it anyway so if anyone was worried that that article could harm Justin Baldoni as I said I
00:12:46.700 think the opposite is going to happen here because I think that this was obviously planted by her side
00:12:51.880 and now let's see if she actually hired that company that found this research what was their name
00:12:58.180 good day if they're on the list of any experts from Blake Lively's team that should be very interesting
00:13:05.140 to find out okay so yesterday there was this hearing that everyone's been talking about it is it going to
00:13:11.520 be a settlement now are they in talks of a settlement and it seems like the judge now is getting really
00:13:18.240 tired of everyone and he's like you're not that important to me although he's saying that yeah you are kind
00:13:23.720 of important but I have more important cases coming up that are criminal cases and I need to
00:13:28.820 attend to those first so that's why they postponed the trial for two more months so now it's going to
00:13:35.640 be May 18th instead of March anyway so now he is pushing for a settlement which is a very normal
00:13:42.600 procedure to do for a judge to say hey it would be better if you just could agree on something I don't
00:13:49.060 think you should spend so much of the public's time and money and resources fighting this in court
00:13:55.580 you have to remember that the jury for example regular people like you and me have to take time
00:14:03.040 out of their lives and their work hours to attend this trial these are people that don't get really paid
00:14:09.340 to do that but Blake Lively think that it's so important for her to prove that she's really popular
00:14:16.300 that all these people should sacrifice their time and earnings and life to be there to support her
00:14:23.560 also this is taxpayers money paying this judge to spend his time on this case so yes and the and the
00:14:30.660 judge also ordered the parties to sit down and figure out what should get sealed and unsealed I think
00:14:35.400 he's trying to push for things to get unsealed even faster and you have to remember here that the judge
00:14:41.100 has seen all the evidence so far we haven't really seen everything but by seeing all the evidence he
00:14:47.800 thinks that they should settle I have no idea if that's going to happen people just keep guessing if
00:14:54.400 they are going to sell or not I think for Justin's sake he will not settle unless he's completely
00:15:00.900 vindicated and also we have to keep in mind there are I think there are 13 parties that are sued by
00:15:07.820 Blake Lively and all of these people have to agree to a settlement if that's if that happens
00:15:14.780 and as we know now for and for Blake I think pulling out now would really harm her but then again I think
00:15:23.640 going to trial would harm her even more because at trial we will know every single detail of her
00:15:31.940 personal life as well she would be asked questions that are really intrusive and private about her
00:15:41.020 relationship even with Ryan Reynolds so I think the risk for her to do that and come out of that on top
00:15:47.540 and also we have to remember at the end of the day what's the most important thing here
00:15:51.800 it is the public opinion although I do think for Justin's sakes that he needs to be cleared for
00:15:59.940 everything to continue to have a thriving career in Hollywood and that also goes for Jamie Heath and
00:16:06.660 the other people that are involved of course anyways Blake has been out and about again showing off a
00:16:12.880 red dress and I just found it so funny because Daily Mail was doing a story about it saying Blake
00:16:19.360 Lively flashes cherry smile in festive red as her Justin Baldoni court battled is delayed and they
00:16:27.520 describe her like this she worked a crimson corset style dress glittering bow adored heels and a
00:16:35.220 head full of loosey wavy luck that she toyed with as she departed the store a tasty treat in hand
00:16:44.340 lively looked as happy and stylish as could be the smile on her face concealed any lingering feelings
00:16:52.980 she may have about her widely publicist war with Baldoni which is approaching its one year anniversary
00:17:00.640 I found this to be very poetic and in great contrast to the comments that is everywhere on all the outlets that
00:17:10.080 actually publish something from this event she was again she was promoting her hair products and people are brutal
00:17:17.980 brutal I feel like this is getting to a point now I can't even read the comments on these things myself
00:17:24.080 because people are so upset and they're being so mean I wonder when Blake and Ryan can open up comments again
00:17:35.140 on their social media accounts anyway that's it for me you guys I hope you enjoyed this episode I'm sure
00:17:41.860 there are going to be more legal filings later this week as well so much is happening all the time in
00:17:47.780 this case I am sometimes struggling to keep up but I'm really trying my best for you guys and thank you
00:17:53.200 again so much for sending me so many tips and so much encouragement you guys are amazing you're so
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