Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - Ep 20. Blake Lively's case is falling apart !

00:00:00.000 This January on Paramount+, it began on the shores of New Jersey.

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00:00:14.400 This one is from Stephanie Jones, who used to be Justin Baldoni's publicist.

00:00:21.580 She is peeing her pants right now. 0.99

00:00:24.300 Hi, and welcome to Flossom Talk.

00:00:30.600 I'm Tashti Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller, and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:37.180 Happy Friday, everyone.

00:00:38.300 I hope you had a great week and that you have some exciting plans for the weekend.

00:00:42.400 Before I start this episode, I just wanted to say again, I'm so grateful for all your support,

00:00:47.480 for all the tips that you're sending me, for all the comments, for all the engagements.

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00:01:02.240 We have so much to go through today.

00:01:04.160 Of course, there are new filings.

00:01:05.860 This one is from Stephanie Jones, who used to be Justin Baldoni's publicist.

00:01:12.320 She is peeing her pants right now, and it's so obvious what she's trying to do. 0.95

00:01:18.600 This is amazing.

00:01:19.560 I've been waiting for this moment to report on stuff like this.

00:01:23.520 Anyways, yesterday was Ryan Reynolds' birthday.

00:01:25.720 Let's see who congratulated him.

00:01:28.040 Also, Johnny Depp is back officially, you guys.

00:01:32.200 It seems like he has a new deal with a big studio.

00:01:36.020 I also want to talk about the Golden Globes.

00:01:38.260 As you know, I have some history there.

00:01:40.300 And the latest money grab scheme from the award show will just blow your mind.

00:01:45.840 And there's news about how terrible Kevin Federline's book is doing.

00:01:51.340 And also, there's a story here about how Hugh Jackman is now calling out one of the snakes in his inner circle.

00:02:00.400 And it's not Ryan Reynolds.

00:02:02.280 Anyways, as I said, it was Ryan Reynolds' birthday yesterday.

00:02:04.840 I was really curious to see if Blake would congratulate her husband on his birthday, which would be a very natural thing to do.

00:02:13.720 Ryan and Blake has always congratulated each other on their birthdays.

00:02:18.880 And they always kind of made these like fun posts about each other, poking a little bit here and there.

00:02:24.340 And people were a bit surprised earlier this year in August when it was Blake's birthday and Ryan didn't congratulate her.

00:02:31.440 So, I asked Magnus at breakfast this morning.

00:02:35.120 I was like, what do you think it means?

00:02:37.280 And he was like, maybe they're too busy.

00:02:40.220 Like, that is a bad answer.

00:02:42.760 But Blake was not too busy liking Hugh Jackman's post when he congratulated Ryan on his birthday.

00:02:50.320 So, he was actually one of the few celebrities, maybe the only one, that actually congratulated Ryan on his birthday.

00:02:57.920 He made a post about it.

00:02:59.540 And Ryan was reposting on his story everyone who said happy birthday to him.

00:03:05.840 Most of them were from fan accounts.

00:03:08.700 And a lot of these fan accounts, people have been speculated if Ryan Reynolds is actually the person behind those fan accounts.

00:03:14.860 So, maybe that's what Ryan did yesterday.

00:03:17.320 He went into all these fan accounts that he created for himself.

00:03:20.760 And he created birthday wishes for himself.

00:03:23.760 Anyways, I just found it really strange that Blake did not congratulate her husband.

00:03:29.280 Especially since they have a history of doing that.

00:03:31.460 And both of them are so active on social media.

00:03:34.020 So, it's not like, oh, we don't want to share anything personal or anything like that.

00:03:37.760 So, again, I think this means that their relationship is not in a very good place.

00:03:43.460 Anyways, let's get into this new filing from Stephanie Jones.

00:03:48.140 So, I think it was last week that the judge ruled that Jennifer Abel was able to continue her case against Stephanie Jones.

00:03:54.800 I think a few of the points were dismissed.

00:03:56.760 But the most important ones are still there.

00:04:00.620 And now this is like procedure that Stephanie Jones will have the opportunity or actually have to, I think, respond to that. 0.58

00:04:08.340 If you missed that part of the drama, Stephanie Jones is the one that represented Justin Baldoni from the beginning.

00:04:14.780 She owns the company, Jones' work.

00:04:17.180 And then when one of her employees, Jennifer Abel, left the company, Stephanie Jones took her phone away and then gave it to Blake Lively's team. 0.96

00:04:26.840 Through this Van Zandt company that is owned by Ryan Reynolds.

00:04:32.740 Anyways, all of this mess is about to backfire tremendously on Stephanie Jones. 1.00

00:04:39.280 It's looking so embarrassing for her.

00:04:42.240 She really painted herself into a corner now.

00:04:45.020 And whatever happens from now on, Stephanie Jones will lose. 0.99

00:04:50.640 So, now Stephanie Jones knows that Jennifer Abel will move for discovery. 1.00

00:04:54.840 That means that she's going to have access to all the communications that Stephanie Jones had with Van Zandt and Blake Lively's team.

00:05:04.320 So, what she's doing in this new filing now is trying to convince everyone that Jennifer Abel is unethical. 1.00

00:05:13.380 And that she was doing all of this stuff on her own.

00:05:16.600 And she was a part of the smear campaign against Blake Lively.

00:05:20.560 But Stephanie Jones had no idea about it, even though she was working for her company under her command. 0.54

00:05:28.840 So, now if Jennifer Abel wins her case against Stephanie Jones, she could potentially face criminal charges for what she did. 1.00

00:05:38.700 And what they keep saying in this new filing is that if anything happened when Jennifer Abel was under Stephanie Jones or under Jones' work,

00:05:47.040 it was not the company's fault.

00:05:49.180 It was someone else's fault.

00:05:50.540 They're just saying someone else.

00:05:52.280 And they're not saying who that someone else is.

00:05:54.660 So, here's the twist.

00:05:55.740 I've mentioned this before, but it's so funny.

00:05:57.800 So, if Jones' work is found responsible for Jennifer Abel's actions, which they should be because she was working for them,

00:06:06.800 they'd have to pay for her legal fees. 0.68

00:06:10.840 And that means that their interest is no longer that Blake Lively wins this case.

00:06:16.760 Obviously, because that bill is going to be enormous.

00:06:20.200 But if Blake loses, then Jones' work has to admit that Jennifer Abel didn't do anything wrong.

00:06:28.480 And that makes their accusations fall apart as well.

00:06:32.060 Because they've been claiming that Jennifer Abel was part of this alleged smear campaign without their knowledge.

00:06:39.180 But they're saying she was.

00:06:40.760 So, if Blake loses, and the judge rules or jury rules that there was no smear campaign,

00:06:48.980 then Stephanie Jones has to admit that they kind of lied.

00:06:52.520 They have to admit that Jennifer Abel is innocent.

00:06:55.900 And throughout this whole new filing, they're accusing Jennifer Abel of having unclean hands.

00:07:01.460 Isn't that ironic?

00:07:03.140 Well, they're the ones who took her phone and gave it to Blake Lively's team.

00:07:08.280 To help the opposite side build a case against her. 0.70

00:07:12.120 And then they're telling the court that she's the one being unethical.

00:07:15.840 It's funny how Stephanie Jones and Jones' works keep bragging about all their clients. 0.79

00:07:20.040 But then, when it comes to what they actually do for their clients,

00:07:23.440 they're saying like, oh, we had nothing to do with that.

00:07:25.960 All our agents does work on their own, and we have nothing to do with what they do in this office.

00:07:32.940 They also argue that Jennifer Abel has not been damaged in any way.

00:07:36.720 I mean, they tarnished her reputation, and now she's buried in legal bills. 1.00

00:07:44.440 And her career, I don't know what's going to happen to Jennifer Abel's career after this.

00:07:49.440 I think that what she's gone through here must be so freaking devastating,

00:07:54.400 and they're saying no harm done.

00:07:57.040 She was dragged through the mud in that New York Times article.

00:08:01.860 And they're in PR.

00:08:03.340 They know the value of that. 0.85

00:08:05.880 So, saying that she hasn't been damaged, it's just ludicrous.

00:08:11.040 Yes, so bottom line here, this is a complete catch-22 for Stephanie Jones.

00:08:16.140 Now, no matter what happens, as I said, she will lose.

00:08:19.060 So, if Blake wins, they might have to end up paying Jennifer Abel's legal fees.

00:08:25.320 And if Blake loses, they have to admit that they were wrong about Jennifer Abel.

00:08:30.060 Anyways, I think Stephanie Jones needs to hire a PR specialist here to sort out her reputation after this is over. 1.00

00:08:37.900 Anyways, as you know, every time that some new information comes out that doesn't benefit Blake,

00:08:44.080 they create another storm in the media about something that puts them, her or Ryan, in a good light.

00:08:50.480 And, of course, now when I look back at that whole filing about those signal messages that Blake's team is saying,

00:08:56.980 that all the evidence is in what's not there, that to me now looks like it could have been just a whole PR thing. 0.85

00:09:03.580 Anyways, this new stunt from Ryan as well is so ridiculous.

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00:12:38.560 All right, let's get back into this, you guys.

00:12:40.440 So, yes, as I said, Ryan Reynolds' new PR stunt.

00:12:44.740 This is so predictable.

00:12:46.520 So, guess what Ryan Reynolds did in the middle of all of this?

00:12:49.540 He gave away money to a child that needed surgery.

00:12:54.880 Don't misunderstand me.

00:12:56.320 This is a great thing to do for someone.

00:12:58.420 But I feel when Ryan Reynolds is doing it now, it's only for PR.

00:13:02.180 And that's why I get a really bad taste in my mouth.

00:13:04.920 So, BBC actually covered this story that Ryan Reynolds donated unbelievably,

00:13:11.000 unbelievable, £10,000 to this child who needs surgery in the U.S.

00:13:17.560 I feel like £10,000 for Ryan Reynolds is like my bus fare.

00:13:22.500 It's nothing.

00:13:23.440 He should have given a lot more.

00:13:25.440 And this is not the first time he's done things like this.

00:13:28.020 This happens every time there is a new scandal out there,

00:13:32.340 leaking out either from the court dockets or other stories in the media.

00:13:38.320 Ryan Reynolds gives away some money to a child or supports some charity.

00:13:43.240 It's so obvious.

00:13:45.060 And, yeah, I don't buy it.

00:13:47.400 Anyways, Kevin Federline's Tell All book is a major flop,

00:13:53.040 and that makes me really happy.

00:13:54.240 I've been very vocal about my feelings around this book that Kevin Federline is releasing.

00:14:00.000 I think it's only going to hurt Britney. 0.99

00:14:01.760 I'm sure she wasn't a great mom when all of this was going on.

00:14:04.840 As we've seen, there are evidence of that.

00:14:07.380 But she needs help.

00:14:09.180 She is not well.

00:14:10.840 And I think this is just like taking advantage of the situation.

00:14:14.540 So, according to Amazon's bestseller list,

00:14:17.480 his book is number 1,439.

00:14:21.720 People are not buying it.

00:14:24.940 An insider told Shudderscoop here that he thought he could get rich by dragging Britney. 0.95

00:14:31.480 Instead, they organized a boycott.

00:14:34.840 They didn't just cancel him.

00:14:36.700 They buried him.

00:14:38.900 Even a full-court media blitz,

00:14:40.860 including a sympathetic Entertainment Tonight interview,

00:14:44.120 yeah, I showed part of that interview here,

00:14:46.360 couldn't save him.

00:14:47.280 Britney's beloved Kevin's despised.

00:14:51.000 Add an insider here.

00:14:52.260 Online fans celebrated the flop as poetic justice.

00:14:56.300 One viral comment said it the best.

00:14:58.800 The only thing Kevin exposed is how irrelevant he is.

00:15:03.820 Agree.

00:15:04.880 Also from Rub Shutter,

00:15:06.380 there's a story here about how Hugh Jackman

00:15:08.960 dumps snake friend after betrayal.

00:15:13.120 He is furious over a leak about secret romance with Sutton Foster.

00:15:18.940 So, according to this story,

00:15:20.600 someone close to Hugh Jackman leaked the story

00:15:23.880 that there was a romance going on

00:15:25.380 and he trusted this person.

00:15:27.980 Now they're obviously not friends anymore.

00:15:30.340 I hope his next person that he can get out of his life

00:15:33.220 is Ryan Reynolds.

00:15:34.460 I was, of course, when I saw the headline,

00:15:36.080 I was like, yes, finally.

00:15:37.360 He is taking a step back from Ryan,

00:15:40.700 but that was not the case.

00:15:41.940 But it says here that the actor

00:15:43.400 has cut off a longtime choreographer pal

00:15:46.320 after discovering he,

00:15:48.580 through his own publicist,

00:15:50.380 leaked word of Hugh's secret romance

00:15:52.900 with his co-star Sutton Foster.

00:15:56.140 The call came from inside the house.

00:15:58.440 One insider hisses,

00:16:00.420 Hugh and Sutton were incredibly discreet

00:16:02.920 during the Music Man,

00:16:04.520 but a few trusted people knew

00:16:06.300 and one of them decided to cash in.

00:16:10.020 Anyways, Johnny Depp is back.

00:16:13.340 So, he is now in the talks

00:16:16.360 with a big studio for a huge role.

00:16:20.460 I mean, all of you guys, I'm sure,

00:16:22.300 follow the Amber Heard drama

00:16:24.780 and he was basically cancelled in the industry.

00:16:28.140 No one wanted to work with him.

00:16:29.500 He lost so many big deals.

00:16:31.160 He lost his Disney deal

00:16:32.540 as Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean.

00:16:35.440 He also lost the Fantastic Beasts franchise.

00:16:38.700 So, a big loss for Johnny.

00:16:41.520 But now, he's in talks of playing Ebenezer

00:16:45.380 in Charles Dickens' classic,

00:16:47.320 A Christmas Carol.

00:16:48.840 So, this would be his first big-budget studio film

00:16:54.000 since the controversy.

00:16:55.640 So, this is huge.

00:16:56.980 He's done smaller projects,

00:16:58.380 he's done art projects,

00:16:59.560 he's done music projects,

00:17:00.820 but he hasn't been accepted back in Hollywood

00:17:03.940 until now.

00:17:05.660 And this is Parallel Pictures.

00:17:07.420 It's a thrilling ghost story

00:17:08.780 set in Dickens, London,

00:17:10.500 follows one man's supernatural journey

00:17:12.560 to face his past, present, and future.

00:17:15.880 Yeah, we all know the story.

00:17:17.560 And a representative from Johnny Depp

00:17:18.920 has confirmed this,

00:17:19.800 but has no further comment.

00:17:21.240 Also, Johnny has another project

00:17:22.980 coming out on November 7

00:17:24.460 that he directed

00:17:26.020 about the Italian painter Modi.

00:17:29.860 And in that movie

00:17:31.080 is Al Pacino

00:17:32.140 and Stephen Graham.

00:17:34.560 I haven't heard too much

00:17:35.660 about that movie.

00:17:36.860 Magnus told me

00:17:37.700 it didn't get good reviews.

00:17:39.320 So, I don't know,

00:17:40.080 but I would be really interested

00:17:41.040 to see how Johnny Depp

00:17:42.380 is as a director.

00:17:43.660 And he also had a lot of fun

00:17:45.240 filming Day Drinker

00:17:46.700 with Penelope Cruz.

00:17:48.540 They were in Spain,

00:17:49.880 and one of my friends in Spain

00:17:51.300 were actually on the set.

00:17:52.420 She was working on the movie,

00:17:53.480 and she said that he was so sweet.

00:17:55.660 He was on time all the time,

00:17:57.340 something that he's been

00:17:58.040 criticized for before.

00:18:00.260 But Johnny was such a joy

00:18:03.640 to work with,

00:18:04.500 and he bought everyone gifts afterwards.

00:18:06.980 She said, like,

00:18:07.700 oh my God, he is magical.

00:18:09.240 So, yes, I'm super happy

00:18:10.480 for Johnny Depp.

00:18:11.360 I think he deserves

00:18:12.160 a second chance for sure.

00:18:13.860 Anyways, let's go talk

00:18:14.960 about this Golden Globe scandal.

00:18:16.800 If you followed me for a while,

00:18:18.120 you know that I had

00:18:19.020 some issues with them.

00:18:20.400 I sued the Golden Globes

00:18:22.060 back in 2020.

00:18:23.680 It was a huge scandal,

00:18:26.060 and it ended up with

00:18:27.880 Golden Globes being

00:18:28.580 taken off the air.

00:18:30.020 It ended up with Tom Cruise

00:18:31.160 returning his Golden Globes.

00:18:33.440 All their dirty laundry

00:18:34.820 came out,

00:18:36.180 and then all the studios

00:18:37.700 started boycotting them.

00:18:39.440 It was a disaster.

00:18:40.680 It was a big crash,

00:18:42.560 and I was in the middle

00:18:43.300 of that storm,

00:18:44.120 and I feel like a lot

00:18:45.100 of the things that I see

00:18:46.420 in the Blake Lively

00:18:48.180 versus Justin Baldoni.

00:18:50.060 Legal Feud,

00:18:50.920 I recognized a lot

00:18:52.340 of the same things,

00:18:53.380 a lot of the same strategies

00:18:55.000 that they used,

00:18:56.800 that also the Golden Globes used.

00:18:58.920 They hired eight lawyers

00:19:00.420 to fight me.

00:19:01.340 I was a freelance journalist

00:19:02.780 that said, you know,

00:19:03.840 you should just allow

00:19:04.980 all qualified journalists

00:19:06.920 to become members

00:19:07.960 of Golden Globes.

00:19:08.960 If you don't know,

00:19:09.960 the Golden Globes

00:19:10.760 was run by an association

00:19:12.940 called Hollywood Foreign Press,

00:19:15.120 and it was journalists

00:19:16.560 from all over the world

00:19:17.760 that were based here in L.A.

00:19:19.200 There were about 90 of them,

00:19:21.060 and they were accused

00:19:22.120 of being corrupt

00:19:23.180 because they were

00:19:23.900 such a small group

00:19:24.760 and they were so easy

00:19:25.540 to influence.

00:19:26.720 And some of the members

00:19:27.800 were really open

00:19:29.000 to broadening the membership

00:19:30.860 and needed more people

00:19:32.260 to come in,

00:19:33.120 more working journalists

00:19:34.260 because they also got criticized

00:19:35.620 that a lot of the members

00:19:36.940 didn't really work

00:19:37.960 as journalists,

00:19:38.700 and they were only there

00:19:40.020 for the free ride

00:19:41.440 and to get special treatment

00:19:42.820 in Hollywood,

00:19:43.560 and that's what they did get.

00:19:45.120 Because when Magnus

00:19:46.480 was a member,

00:19:47.280 before they kicked him out

00:19:48.300 because of me,

00:19:49.620 I came with him

00:19:51.520 to a lot of the events,

00:19:53.260 and the publicists

00:19:55.720 were just pushing celebrities

00:19:57.640 on these people.

00:19:59.600 We're like,

00:20:00.180 hi, do you want to meet

00:20:00.920 Lady Gaga?

00:20:01.700 Do you want to take a picture

00:20:02.540 with Jennifer Lopez?

00:20:04.000 Hey, Leo is over here.

00:20:05.340 Do you want to talk to him?

00:20:06.580 This whole game,

00:20:07.660 this whole setup,

00:20:09.300 to me,

00:20:09.660 was really fascinating

00:20:10.920 at first.

00:20:11.540 Then I realized

00:20:12.220 this is just dirty.

00:20:14.000 So much happened.

00:20:14.820 Horrible, horrible things.

00:20:16.320 I spoke about that

00:20:17.380 last year,

00:20:19.040 around this time.

00:20:20.060 I will link those videos

00:20:21.100 in my description as well

00:20:22.580 if you want to watch them

00:20:23.760 so you get a little more insight

00:20:25.540 in what actually happened

00:20:26.760 and what they did to me

00:20:27.900 and what they did

00:20:28.540 to my partner Magnus.

00:20:29.860 But my points

00:20:30.480 of bringing this up now

00:20:31.540 is because

00:20:32.740 there is a story here today

00:20:34.620 about how

00:20:35.800 the Golden Globes

00:20:37.020 is now nominating

00:20:38.520 podcasts

00:20:39.480 in the 2026

00:20:41.660 Golden Globes Awards.

00:20:43.040 So yeah,

00:20:43.420 so after they were

00:20:44.300 taken off the air,

00:20:45.340 they decided

00:20:46.160 to sell

00:20:47.020 the Golden Globes

00:20:47.860 to a billionaire

00:20:48.560 called Todd Bowley.

00:20:49.980 The members got money

00:20:51.000 for the deal

00:20:51.760 and they also

00:20:52.480 were promised

00:20:53.300 to be his employees

00:20:55.040 for like the next

00:20:55.920 five years

00:20:56.740 and whatever.

00:20:57.780 Really shady deal

00:20:58.920 and they did that

00:20:59.960 because he promised them

00:21:00.940 that he would get them

00:21:01.880 another TV deal

00:21:02.860 and he did.

00:21:04.040 This year,

00:21:04.860 they're adding a category.

00:21:06.120 This just tells you

00:21:07.620 everything about

00:21:08.500 what they're about.

00:21:09.700 Nothing has really changed

00:21:11.340 except that the power

00:21:12.420 has moved a little bit

00:21:13.680 from the journalist

00:21:14.960 to a billionaire

00:21:16.380 but it's still

00:21:17.620 all foul play.

00:21:19.660 So now this article

00:21:20.940 independent

00:21:21.560 is explaining

00:21:22.580 what the terms are

00:21:24.840 to be nominated

00:21:26.020 and to win

00:21:27.340 an award

00:21:28.140 for best podcast.

00:21:29.720 It says here

00:21:30.600 that the Golden Globes

00:21:31.500 recently announced

00:21:32.500 the 25 nominees

00:21:33.880 for its inaugural

00:21:35.020 best podcast category

00:21:37.720 with MAGA favorites

00:21:39.700 Tucker Carlson,

00:21:40.940 Candice Owens,

00:21:41.920 Megyn Kelly,

00:21:42.740 Ben Shapiro

00:21:43.540 and Sio Vaughn

00:21:45.340 in the running.

00:21:47.040 So first of all,

00:21:49.700 there's no undercategories here.

00:21:51.520 It's just best podcast.

00:21:52.800 It's not like

00:21:53.320 funniest podcast.

00:21:54.620 It's not most entertaining.

00:21:56.380 It's not about

00:21:57.600 most informative.

00:21:59.100 There's no subcategories

00:22:00.660 which also makes it

00:22:02.000 so shady to me.

00:22:02.960 How are we going to vote

00:22:04.120 on the best podcast?

00:22:05.920 Also keep in mind

00:22:06.880 a lot of the new members

00:22:08.680 that they actually

00:22:09.520 accepted into the group

00:22:11.180 after my lawsuit

00:22:12.320 are spread

00:22:13.500 all over the world.

00:22:14.900 So my friend

00:22:15.620 who is Japanese,

00:22:16.800 she said to me,

00:22:17.580 you know,

00:22:17.820 no one in Japan

00:22:18.900 is going to understand

00:22:20.340 this podcast.

00:22:21.520 They don't even speak English 0.60

00:22:22.880 and they're voting

00:22:24.200 for podcasts,

00:22:26.020 top podcasts.

00:22:27.240 So to begin with,

00:22:28.400 this award 0.99

00:22:29.220 is ridiculous. 0.99

00:22:29.980 And they've already 0.98

00:22:31.380 nominated 25 podcasters.

00:22:34.640 It's obvious to me

00:22:35.440 that they want these people

00:22:36.500 to show up

00:22:37.400 at the award show

00:22:38.500 to get a broader audience.

00:22:40.380 And that's also why

00:22:41.300 they are nominating

00:22:43.040 a lot of conservatives

00:22:44.160 because they want

00:22:45.240 conservatives

00:22:45.820 to start watching

00:22:47.060 Golden Globes as well.

00:22:48.680 But here's the big catch.

00:22:50.900 Now,

00:22:51.500 according to Status,

00:22:53.180 which is a website

00:22:54.060 that they're referring to here,

00:22:55.460 the company behind

00:22:56.360 the ceremony,

00:22:57.220 Penske Media,

00:22:57.900 So Penske Media

00:22:59.040 owns also the Golden Globes

00:23:00.600 with Todd Bowley,

00:23:03.320 the billionaire.

00:23:04.600 And Penske Media

00:23:05.760 owns basically

00:23:06.940 all the trade magazines

00:23:08.020 in this town.

00:23:09.180 So keep that in mind.

00:23:10.400 Penske Media

00:23:10.980 has sent out

00:23:12.060 a pitch deck

00:23:13.460 to at least

00:23:14.580 some of the shows

00:23:15.580 eligible

00:23:16.120 for the awards

00:23:18.100 explaining

00:23:18.960 that they are

00:23:19.800 selling marketing packages

00:23:21.800 costing upwards

00:23:23.340 of $75,000

00:23:25.700 that allows

00:23:27.640 podcasters

00:23:28.500 to promote

00:23:29.100 their programs

00:23:29.960 directly to Globes

00:23:31.420 voters

00:23:31.980 who will determine

00:23:33.860 the winner.

00:23:35.260 So if you are nominated,

00:23:36.680 you can spend

00:23:37.260 $75,000

00:23:39.040 on a marketing package

00:23:42.100 so that

00:23:43.600 the voters

00:23:44.480 will know

00:23:45.000 who you are.

00:23:46.060 So the article

00:23:46.580 continues to say

00:23:47.400 that while nominated

00:23:48.260 artists and shows

00:23:49.340 have consistently

00:23:50.240 lobbied for industry awards,

00:23:52.400 yes,

00:23:52.740 I've seen that

00:23:53.360 in action,

00:23:53.960 status writer

00:23:55.580 Olive Darcy

00:23:56.640 argues that

00:23:57.380 the difference

00:23:57.980 this time

00:23:58.920 is that

00:24:00.220 PMC CEO

00:24:01.980 Penske Media

00:24:03.280 Jay Penske

00:24:04.520 owns

00:24:05.340 not just

00:24:06.180 the Globes

00:24:06.980 but also

00:24:07.600 the entertainment

00:24:08.280 media outlets

00:24:09.540 Variety,

00:24:10.380 Rolling Stone,

00:24:11.660 Deadline Hollywood,

00:24:12.940 Billboard,

00:24:13.720 and The Hollywood Reporter

00:24:15.100 which could be

00:24:16.200 considered

00:24:16.740 a conflict

00:24:17.880 of interest.

00:24:19.380 In other words,

00:24:20.560 the same

00:24:21.080 corporate entity

00:24:22.120 now both sets

00:24:23.440 the stage

00:24:24.120 and writes

00:24:24.960 the glowing

00:24:25.760 coverage.

00:24:27.080 So let's get back

00:24:27.840 to this

00:24:28.140 $75,000 package.

00:24:29.960 So what do you get

00:24:30.640 if you're nominated

00:24:31.320 and you want to pay

00:24:32.180 $75,000?

00:24:33.580 You can get this.

00:24:34.580 Someone like Carlson

00:24:35.580 or Owens

00:24:36.160 can pay tens of thousands

00:24:37.320 of dollars

00:24:37.860 to be feted

00:24:38.520 by Variety,

00:24:40.500 handed a trophy

00:24:41.620 and lavished

00:24:42.440 with glowing coverage

00:24:43.700 and social promotions

00:24:45.000 from one of the

00:24:46.840 industry's

00:24:47.320 most influential

00:24:48.160 and renowned

00:24:49.500 publications.

00:24:50.460 so you can

00:24:51.060 basically buy

00:24:52.520 an ad

00:24:53.680 in one of

00:24:54.780 Penske's

00:24:55.580 magazines.

00:24:57.840 So the ad

00:24:58.400 would maybe have

00:24:59.320 a little paid

00:25:00.120 sponsorship,

00:25:01.220 a disclosure

00:25:02.060 on it,

00:25:03.180 but they would

00:25:03.640 present it

00:25:04.520 like a real article.

00:25:06.040 Penske is offering

00:25:07.040 far-right influencers

00:25:08.380 who thrive on

00:25:09.320 outrage,

00:25:10.380 a glossy stage,

00:25:11.960 and an endorsement

00:25:13.040 of legitimacy.

00:25:14.780 This is why

00:25:15.800 I find Hollywood 0.98

00:25:17.000 so hypocritical, 0.96

00:25:18.680 especially considering 0.98

00:25:20.520 the Golden Globes

00:25:21.840 Vogue history.

00:25:24.300 So when I sued

00:25:24.940 them,

00:25:25.420 they realized

00:25:26.600 they needed

00:25:27.040 to make some

00:25:27.640 changes.

00:25:29.140 And what they

00:25:30.540 did

00:25:31.060 was just

00:25:32.520 open up

00:25:33.480 for more

00:25:34.080 diverse

00:25:34.940 Golden Globes.

00:25:36.380 So they

00:25:36.940 only added

00:25:38.200 people to

00:25:39.180 the voter's

00:25:39.920 body

00:25:40.280 with

00:25:40.960 ethnic

00:25:41.980 backgrounds

00:25:42.860 that fit

00:25:45.360 the narrative

00:25:46.060 right then.

00:25:46.880 they were

00:25:47.960 like the

00:25:48.360 definition

00:25:48.820 of

00:25:49.120 Vogue,

00:25:49.760 and now

00:25:50.140 they're

00:25:50.380 celebrating

00:25:51.080 all the

00:25:51.980 people who

00:25:52.600 were criticizing

00:25:53.460 them for

00:25:54.700 just that.

00:25:55.920 Hollywood is

00:25:56.640 just a joke.

00:25:57.940 I've given

00:25:58.300 up on

00:25:58.720 Hollywood.

00:25:59.600 Anyways,

00:26:00.100 at the end

00:26:00.480 of this

00:26:00.740 article,

00:26:01.380 it says

00:26:01.740 that it's

00:26:02.200 referring to

00:26:02.680 the

00:26:02.860 Ankler,

00:26:03.580 a newsletter,

00:26:04.720 saying that

00:26:05.560 they reported

00:26:06.520 that several

00:26:07.180 of the

00:26:07.520 podcasters

00:26:08.280 nominated

00:26:08.820 are still

00:26:09.460 weighing

00:26:10.000 whether to

00:26:10.600 bother

00:26:11.100 with the

00:26:11.900 $500 fee

00:26:13.060 to submit

00:26:14.160 themselves for

00:26:15.000 Globes

00:26:15.300 consideration

00:26:16.080 before its

00:26:17.280 October 31st

00:26:18.460 deadline.

00:26:19.340 Yes,

00:26:19.600 you have to

00:26:19.980 pay $500,

00:26:21.240 I guess,

00:26:21.580 just to accept

00:26:22.220 that you've

00:26:22.640 been nominated.

00:26:23.680 It's such a

00:26:24.460 money grab,

00:26:25.500 and it's

00:26:25.960 pretending to

00:26:26.780 celebrate art,

00:26:28.260 and all it

00:26:28.860 celebrates is

00:26:30.040 money.

00:26:31.100 Anyways,

00:26:31.500 that's it for me

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Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - October 25, 2025

Ep 20. Blake Lively's case is falling apart !

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