Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - October 25, 2025


Ep 20. Blake Lively's case is falling apart !


Episode Stats

Length

27 minutes

Words per Minute

155.53136

Word Count

4,236

Sentence Count

311

Misogynist Sentences

32

Hate Speech Sentences

2


Summary

Stephanie Jones, who used to be Justin Baldoni's publicist, is peeing her pants right now. Also, it was Ryan Reynolds' birthday yesterday and no one congratulated him on it. What could be the reason for this? Also, Johnny Depp is back officially with a new deal with a big studio, Kevin Federline s book is doing poorly, and Hugh Jackman is now calling out a snake in his inner circle.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This January on Paramount+, it began on the shores of New Jersey.
00:00:04.900 Now, a new pack emerges in the great white north.
00:00:09.240 Canada Shore, new original series, now streaming on Paramount+.
00:00:14.400 This one is from Stephanie Jones, who used to be Justin Baldoni's publicist.
00:00:21.580 She is peeing her pants right now.
00:00:24.300 Hi, and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:30.600 I'm Tashti Flohr, journalist, Hollywood truth teller, and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.
00:00:37.180 Happy Friday, everyone.
00:00:38.300 I hope you had a great week and that you have some exciting plans for the weekend.
00:00:42.400 Before I start this episode, I just wanted to say again, I'm so grateful for all your support,
00:00:47.480 for all the tips that you're sending me, for all the comments, for all the engagements.
00:00:52.640 And, of course, if you haven't subscribed yet, I really appreciate it if you do and hit the notification bell
00:00:58.460 so you never miss an episode of Flossom Talk.
00:01:02.240 We have so much to go through today.
00:01:04.160 Of course, there are new filings.
00:01:05.860 This one is from Stephanie Jones, who used to be Justin Baldoni's publicist.
00:01:12.320 She is peeing her pants right now, and it's so obvious what she's trying to do.
00:01:18.600 This is amazing.
00:01:19.560 I've been waiting for this moment to report on stuff like this.
00:01:23.520 Anyways, yesterday was Ryan Reynolds' birthday.
00:01:25.720 Let's see who congratulated him.
00:01:28.040 Also, Johnny Depp is back officially, you guys.
00:01:32.200 It seems like he has a new deal with a big studio.
00:01:36.020 I also want to talk about the Golden Globes.
00:01:38.260 As you know, I have some history there.
00:01:40.300 And the latest money grab scheme from the award show will just blow your mind.
00:01:45.840 And there's news about how terrible Kevin Federline's book is doing.
00:01:51.340 And also, there's a story here about how Hugh Jackman is now calling out one of the snakes in his inner circle.
00:02:00.400 And it's not Ryan Reynolds.
00:02:02.280 Anyways, as I said, it was Ryan Reynolds' birthday yesterday.
00:02:04.840 I was really curious to see if Blake would congratulate her husband on his birthday, which would be a very natural thing to do.
00:02:13.720 Ryan and Blake has always congratulated each other on their birthdays.
00:02:18.880 And they always kind of made these like fun posts about each other, poking a little bit here and there.
00:02:24.340 And people were a bit surprised earlier this year in August when it was Blake's birthday and Ryan didn't congratulate her.
00:02:31.440 So, I asked Magnus at breakfast this morning.
00:02:35.120 I was like, what do you think it means?
00:02:37.280 And he was like, maybe they're too busy.
00:02:40.220 Like, that is a bad answer.
00:02:42.760 But Blake was not too busy liking Hugh Jackman's post when he congratulated Ryan on his birthday.
00:02:50.320 So, he was actually one of the few celebrities, maybe the only one, that actually congratulated Ryan on his birthday.
00:02:57.920 He made a post about it.
00:02:59.540 And Ryan was reposting on his story everyone who said happy birthday to him.
00:03:05.840 Most of them were from fan accounts.
00:03:08.700 And a lot of these fan accounts, people have been speculated if Ryan Reynolds is actually the person behind those fan accounts.
00:03:14.860 So, maybe that's what Ryan did yesterday.
00:03:17.320 He went into all these fan accounts that he created for himself.
00:03:20.760 And he created birthday wishes for himself.
00:03:23.760 Anyways, I just found it really strange that Blake did not congratulate her husband.
00:03:29.280 Especially since they have a history of doing that.
00:03:31.460 And both of them are so active on social media.
00:03:34.020 So, it's not like, oh, we don't want to share anything personal or anything like that.
00:03:37.760 So, again, I think this means that their relationship is not in a very good place.
00:03:43.460 Anyways, let's get into this new filing from Stephanie Jones.
00:03:48.140 So, I think it was last week that the judge ruled that Jennifer Abel was able to continue her case against Stephanie Jones.
00:03:54.800 I think a few of the points were dismissed.
00:03:56.760 But the most important ones are still there.
00:04:00.620 And now this is like procedure that Stephanie Jones will have the opportunity or actually have to, I think, respond to that.
00:04:08.340 If you missed that part of the drama, Stephanie Jones is the one that represented Justin Baldoni from the beginning.
00:04:14.780 She owns the company, Jones' work.
00:04:17.180 And then when one of her employees, Jennifer Abel, left the company, Stephanie Jones took her phone away and then gave it to Blake Lively's team.
00:04:26.840 Through this Van Zandt company that is owned by Ryan Reynolds.
00:04:32.740 Anyways, all of this mess is about to backfire tremendously on Stephanie Jones.
00:04:39.280 It's looking so embarrassing for her.
00:04:42.240 She really painted herself into a corner now.
00:04:45.020 And whatever happens from now on, Stephanie Jones will lose.
00:04:50.640 So, now Stephanie Jones knows that Jennifer Abel will move for discovery.
00:04:54.840 That means that she's going to have access to all the communications that Stephanie Jones had with Van Zandt and Blake Lively's team.
00:05:04.320 So, what she's doing in this new filing now is trying to convince everyone that Jennifer Abel is unethical.
00:05:13.380 And that she was doing all of this stuff on her own.
00:05:16.600 And she was a part of the smear campaign against Blake Lively.
00:05:20.560 But Stephanie Jones had no idea about it, even though she was working for her company under her command.
00:05:28.840 So, now if Jennifer Abel wins her case against Stephanie Jones, she could potentially face criminal charges for what she did.
00:05:38.700 And what they keep saying in this new filing is that if anything happened when Jennifer Abel was under Stephanie Jones or under Jones' work,
00:05:47.040 it was not the company's fault.
00:05:49.180 It was someone else's fault.
00:05:50.540 They're just saying someone else.
00:05:52.280 And they're not saying who that someone else is.
00:05:54.660 So, here's the twist.
00:05:55.740 I've mentioned this before, but it's so funny.
00:05:57.800 So, if Jones' work is found responsible for Jennifer Abel's actions, which they should be because she was working for them,
00:06:06.800 they'd have to pay for her legal fees.
00:06:10.840 And that means that their interest is no longer that Blake Lively wins this case.
00:06:16.760 Obviously, because that bill is going to be enormous.
00:06:20.200 But if Blake loses, then Jones' work has to admit that Jennifer Abel didn't do anything wrong.
00:06:28.480 And that makes their accusations fall apart as well.
00:06:32.060 Because they've been claiming that Jennifer Abel was part of this alleged smear campaign without their knowledge.
00:06:39.180 But they're saying she was.
00:06:40.760 So, if Blake loses, and the judge rules or jury rules that there was no smear campaign,
00:06:48.980 then Stephanie Jones has to admit that they kind of lied.
00:06:52.520 They have to admit that Jennifer Abel is innocent.
00:06:55.900 And throughout this whole new filing, they're accusing Jennifer Abel of having unclean hands.
00:07:01.460 Isn't that ironic?
00:07:03.140 Well, they're the ones who took her phone and gave it to Blake Lively's team.
00:07:08.280 To help the opposite side build a case against her.
00:07:12.120 And then they're telling the court that she's the one being unethical.
00:07:15.840 It's funny how Stephanie Jones and Jones' works keep bragging about all their clients.
00:07:20.040 But then, when it comes to what they actually do for their clients,
00:07:23.440 they're saying like, oh, we had nothing to do with that.
00:07:25.960 All our agents does work on their own, and we have nothing to do with what they do in this office.
00:07:32.940 They also argue that Jennifer Abel has not been damaged in any way.
00:07:36.720 I mean, they tarnished her reputation, and now she's buried in legal bills.
00:07:44.440 And her career, I don't know what's going to happen to Jennifer Abel's career after this.
00:07:49.440 I think that what she's gone through here must be so freaking devastating,
00:07:54.400 and they're saying no harm done.
00:07:57.040 She was dragged through the mud in that New York Times article.
00:08:01.860 And they're in PR.
00:08:03.340 They know the value of that.
00:08:05.880 So, saying that she hasn't been damaged, it's just ludicrous.
00:08:11.040 Yes, so bottom line here, this is a complete catch-22 for Stephanie Jones.
00:08:16.140 Now, no matter what happens, as I said, she will lose.
00:08:19.060 So, if Blake wins, they might have to end up paying Jennifer Abel's legal fees.
00:08:25.320 And if Blake loses, they have to admit that they were wrong about Jennifer Abel.
00:08:30.060 Anyways, I think Stephanie Jones needs to hire a PR specialist here to sort out her reputation after this is over.
00:08:37.900 Anyways, as you know, every time that some new information comes out that doesn't benefit Blake,
00:08:44.080 they create another storm in the media about something that puts them, her or Ryan, in a good light.
00:08:50.480 And, of course, now when I look back at that whole filing about those signal messages that Blake's team is saying,
00:08:56.980 that all the evidence is in what's not there, that to me now looks like it could have been just a whole PR thing.
00:09:03.580 Anyways, this new stunt from Ryan as well is so ridiculous.
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00:12:38.560 All right, let's get back into this, you guys.
00:12:40.440 So, yes, as I said, Ryan Reynolds' new PR stunt.
00:12:44.740 This is so predictable.
00:12:46.520 So, guess what Ryan Reynolds did in the middle of all of this?
00:12:49.540 He gave away money to a child that needed surgery.
00:12:54.880 Don't misunderstand me.
00:12:56.320 This is a great thing to do for someone.
00:12:58.420 But I feel when Ryan Reynolds is doing it now, it's only for PR.
00:13:02.180 And that's why I get a really bad taste in my mouth.
00:13:04.920 So, BBC actually covered this story that Ryan Reynolds donated unbelievably,
00:13:11.000 unbelievable, £10,000 to this child who needs surgery in the U.S.
00:13:17.560 I feel like £10,000 for Ryan Reynolds is like my bus fare.
00:13:22.500 It's nothing.
00:13:23.440 He should have given a lot more.
00:13:25.440 And this is not the first time he's done things like this.
00:13:28.020 This happens every time there is a new scandal out there,
00:13:32.340 leaking out either from the court dockets or other stories in the media.
00:13:38.320 Ryan Reynolds gives away some money to a child or supports some charity.
00:13:43.240 It's so obvious.
00:13:45.060 And, yeah, I don't buy it.
00:13:47.400 Anyways, Kevin Federline's Tell All book is a major flop,
00:13:53.040 and that makes me really happy.
00:13:54.240 I've been very vocal about my feelings around this book that Kevin Federline is releasing.
00:14:00.000 I think it's only going to hurt Britney.
00:14:01.760 I'm sure she wasn't a great mom when all of this was going on.
00:14:04.840 As we've seen, there are evidence of that.
00:14:07.380 But she needs help.
00:14:09.180 She is not well.
00:14:10.840 And I think this is just like taking advantage of the situation.
00:14:14.540 So, according to Amazon's bestseller list,
00:14:17.480 his book is number 1,439.
00:14:21.720 People are not buying it.
00:14:24.940 An insider told Shudderscoop here that he thought he could get rich by dragging Britney.
00:14:31.480 Instead, they organized a boycott.
00:14:34.840 They didn't just cancel him.
00:14:36.700 They buried him.
00:14:38.900 Even a full-court media blitz,
00:14:40.860 including a sympathetic Entertainment Tonight interview,
00:14:44.120 yeah, I showed part of that interview here,
00:14:46.360 couldn't save him.
00:14:47.280 Britney's beloved Kevin's despised.
00:14:51.000 Add an insider here.
00:14:52.260 Online fans celebrated the flop as poetic justice.
00:14:56.300 One viral comment said it the best.
00:14:58.800 The only thing Kevin exposed is how irrelevant he is.
00:15:03.820 Agree.
00:15:04.880 Also from Rub Shutter,
00:15:06.380 there's a story here about how Hugh Jackman
00:15:08.960 dumps snake friend after betrayal.
00:15:13.120 He is furious over a leak about secret romance with Sutton Foster.
00:15:18.940 So, according to this story,
00:15:20.600 someone close to Hugh Jackman leaked the story
00:15:23.880 that there was a romance going on
00:15:25.380 and he trusted this person.
00:15:27.980 Now they're obviously not friends anymore.
00:15:30.340 I hope his next person that he can get out of his life
00:15:33.220 is Ryan Reynolds.
00:15:34.460 I was, of course, when I saw the headline,
00:15:36.080 I was like, yes, finally.
00:15:37.360 He is taking a step back from Ryan,
00:15:40.700 but that was not the case.
00:15:41.940 But it says here that the actor
00:15:43.400 has cut off a longtime choreographer pal
00:15:46.320 after discovering he,
00:15:48.580 through his own publicist,
00:15:50.380 leaked word of Hugh's secret romance
00:15:52.900 with his co-star Sutton Foster.
00:15:56.140 The call came from inside the house.
00:15:58.440 One insider hisses,
00:16:00.420 Hugh and Sutton were incredibly discreet
00:16:02.920 during the Music Man,
00:16:04.520 but a few trusted people knew
00:16:06.300 and one of them decided to cash in.
00:16:10.020 Anyways, Johnny Depp is back.
00:16:13.340 So, he is now in the talks
00:16:16.360 with a big studio for a huge role.
00:16:20.460 I mean, all of you guys, I'm sure,
00:16:22.300 follow the Amber Heard drama
00:16:24.780 and he was basically cancelled in the industry.
00:16:28.140 No one wanted to work with him.
00:16:29.500 He lost so many big deals.
00:16:31.160 He lost his Disney deal
00:16:32.540 as Jack Sparrow in Pirates of the Caribbean.
00:16:35.440 He also lost the Fantastic Beasts franchise.
00:16:38.700 So, a big loss for Johnny.
00:16:41.520 But now, he's in talks of playing Ebenezer
00:16:45.380 in Charles Dickens' classic,
00:16:47.320 A Christmas Carol.
00:16:48.840 So, this would be his first big-budget studio film
00:16:54.000 since the controversy.
00:16:55.640 So, this is huge.
00:16:56.980 He's done smaller projects,
00:16:58.380 he's done art projects,
00:16:59.560 he's done music projects,
00:17:00.820 but he hasn't been accepted back in Hollywood
00:17:03.940 until now.
00:17:05.660 And this is Parallel Pictures.
00:17:07.420 It's a thrilling ghost story
00:17:08.780 set in Dickens, London,
00:17:10.500 follows one man's supernatural journey
00:17:12.560 to face his past, present, and future.
00:17:15.880 Yeah, we all know the story.
00:17:17.560 And a representative from Johnny Depp
00:17:18.920 has confirmed this,
00:17:19.800 but has no further comment.
00:17:21.240 Also, Johnny has another project
00:17:22.980 coming out on November 7
00:17:24.460 that he directed
00:17:26.020 about the Italian painter Modi.
00:17:29.860 And in that movie
00:17:31.080 is Al Pacino
00:17:32.140 and Stephen Graham.
00:17:34.560 I haven't heard too much
00:17:35.660 about that movie.
00:17:36.860 Magnus told me
00:17:37.700 it didn't get good reviews.
00:17:39.320 So, I don't know,
00:17:40.080 but I would be really interested
00:17:41.040 to see how Johnny Depp
00:17:42.380 is as a director.
00:17:43.660 And he also had a lot of fun
00:17:45.240 filming Day Drinker
00:17:46.700 with Penelope Cruz.
00:17:48.540 They were in Spain,
00:17:49.880 and one of my friends in Spain
00:17:51.300 were actually on the set.
00:17:52.420 She was working on the movie,
00:17:53.480 and she said that he was so sweet.
00:17:55.660 He was on time all the time,
00:17:57.340 something that he's been
00:17:58.040 criticized for before.
00:18:00.260 But Johnny was such a joy
00:18:03.640 to work with,
00:18:04.500 and he bought everyone gifts afterwards.
00:18:06.980 She said, like,
00:18:07.700 oh my God, he is magical.
00:18:09.240 So, yes, I'm super happy
00:18:10.480 for Johnny Depp.
00:18:11.360 I think he deserves
00:18:12.160 a second chance for sure.
00:18:13.860 Anyways, let's go talk
00:18:14.960 about this Golden Globe scandal.
00:18:16.800 If you followed me for a while,
00:18:18.120 you know that I had
00:18:19.020 some issues with them.
00:18:20.400 I sued the Golden Globes
00:18:22.060 back in 2020.
00:18:23.680 It was a huge scandal,
00:18:26.060 and it ended up with
00:18:27.880 Golden Globes being
00:18:28.580 taken off the air.
00:18:30.020 It ended up with Tom Cruise
00:18:31.160 returning his Golden Globes.
00:18:33.440 All their dirty laundry
00:18:34.820 came out,
00:18:36.180 and then all the studios
00:18:37.700 started boycotting them.
00:18:39.440 It was a disaster.
00:18:40.680 It was a big crash,
00:18:42.560 and I was in the middle
00:18:43.300 of that storm,
00:18:44.120 and I feel like a lot
00:18:45.100 of the things that I see
00:18:46.420 in the Blake Lively
00:18:48.180 versus Justin Baldoni.
00:18:50.060 Legal Feud,
00:18:50.920 I recognized a lot
00:18:52.340 of the same things,
00:18:53.380 a lot of the same strategies
00:18:55.000 that they used,
00:18:56.800 that also the Golden Globes used.
00:18:58.920 They hired eight lawyers
00:19:00.420 to fight me.
00:19:01.340 I was a freelance journalist
00:19:02.780 that said, you know,
00:19:03.840 you should just allow
00:19:04.980 all qualified journalists
00:19:06.920 to become members
00:19:07.960 of Golden Globes.
00:19:08.960 If you don't know,
00:19:09.960 the Golden Globes
00:19:10.760 was run by an association
00:19:12.940 called Hollywood Foreign Press,
00:19:15.120 and it was journalists
00:19:16.560 from all over the world
00:19:17.760 that were based here in L.A.
00:19:19.200 There were about 90 of them,
00:19:21.060 and they were accused
00:19:22.120 of being corrupt
00:19:23.180 because they were
00:19:23.900 such a small group
00:19:24.760 and they were so easy
00:19:25.540 to influence.
00:19:26.720 And some of the members
00:19:27.800 were really open
00:19:29.000 to broadening the membership
00:19:30.860 and needed more people
00:19:32.260 to come in,
00:19:33.120 more working journalists
00:19:34.260 because they also got criticized
00:19:35.620 that a lot of the members
00:19:36.940 didn't really work
00:19:37.960 as journalists,
00:19:38.700 and they were only there
00:19:40.020 for the free ride
00:19:41.440 and to get special treatment
00:19:42.820 in Hollywood,
00:19:43.560 and that's what they did get.
00:19:45.120 Because when Magnus
00:19:46.480 was a member,
00:19:47.280 before they kicked him out
00:19:48.300 because of me,
00:19:49.620 I came with him
00:19:51.520 to a lot of the events,
00:19:53.260 and the publicists
00:19:55.720 were just pushing celebrities
00:19:57.640 on these people.
00:19:59.600 We're like,
00:20:00.180 hi, do you want to meet
00:20:00.920 Lady Gaga?
00:20:01.700 Do you want to take a picture
00:20:02.540 with Jennifer Lopez?
00:20:04.000 Hey, Leo is over here.
00:20:05.340 Do you want to talk to him?
00:20:06.580 This whole game,
00:20:07.660 this whole setup,
00:20:09.300 to me,
00:20:09.660 was really fascinating
00:20:10.920 at first.
00:20:11.540 Then I realized
00:20:12.220 this is just dirty.
00:20:14.000 So much happened.
00:20:14.820 Horrible, horrible things.
00:20:16.320 I spoke about that
00:20:17.380 last year,
00:20:19.040 around this time.
00:20:20.060 I will link those videos
00:20:21.100 in my description as well
00:20:22.580 if you want to watch them
00:20:23.760 so you get a little more insight
00:20:25.540 in what actually happened
00:20:26.760 and what they did to me
00:20:27.900 and what they did
00:20:28.540 to my partner Magnus.
00:20:29.860 But my points
00:20:30.480 of bringing this up now
00:20:31.540 is because
00:20:32.740 there is a story here today
00:20:34.620 about how
00:20:35.800 the Golden Globes
00:20:37.020 is now nominating
00:20:38.520 podcasts
00:20:39.480 in the 2026
00:20:41.660 Golden Globes Awards.
00:20:43.040 So yeah,
00:20:43.420 so after they were
00:20:44.300 taken off the air,
00:20:45.340 they decided
00:20:46.160 to sell
00:20:47.020 the Golden Globes
00:20:47.860 to a billionaire
00:20:48.560 called Todd Bowley.
00:20:49.980 The members got money
00:20:51.000 for the deal
00:20:51.760 and they also
00:20:52.480 were promised
00:20:53.300 to be his employees
00:20:55.040 for like the next
00:20:55.920 five years
00:20:56.740 and whatever.
00:20:57.780 Really shady deal
00:20:58.920 and they did that
00:20:59.960 because he promised them
00:21:00.940 that he would get them
00:21:01.880 another TV deal
00:21:02.860 and he did.
00:21:04.040 This year,
00:21:04.860 they're adding a category.
00:21:06.120 This just tells you
00:21:07.620 everything about
00:21:08.500 what they're about.
00:21:09.700 Nothing has really changed
00:21:11.340 except that the power
00:21:12.420 has moved a little bit
00:21:13.680 from the journalist
00:21:14.960 to a billionaire
00:21:16.380 but it's still
00:21:17.620 all foul play.
00:21:19.660 So now this article
00:21:20.940 independent
00:21:21.560 is explaining
00:21:22.580 what the terms are
00:21:24.840 to be nominated
00:21:26.020 and to win
00:21:27.340 an award
00:21:28.140 for best podcast.
00:21:29.720 It says here
00:21:30.600 that the Golden Globes
00:21:31.500 recently announced
00:21:32.500 the 25 nominees
00:21:33.880 for its inaugural
00:21:35.020 best podcast category
00:21:37.720 with MAGA favorites
00:21:39.700 Tucker Carlson,
00:21:40.940 Candice Owens,
00:21:41.920 Megyn Kelly,
00:21:42.740 Ben Shapiro
00:21:43.540 and Sio Vaughn
00:21:45.340 in the running.
00:21:47.040 So first of all,
00:21:49.700 there's no undercategories here.
00:21:51.520 It's just best podcast.
00:21:52.800 It's not like
00:21:53.320 funniest podcast.
00:21:54.620 It's not most entertaining.
00:21:56.380 It's not about
00:21:57.600 most informative.
00:21:59.100 There's no subcategories
00:22:00.660 which also makes it
00:22:02.000 so shady to me.
00:22:02.960 How are we going to vote
00:22:04.120 on the best podcast?
00:22:05.920 Also keep in mind
00:22:06.880 a lot of the new members
00:22:08.680 that they actually
00:22:09.520 accepted into the group
00:22:11.180 after my lawsuit
00:22:12.320 are spread
00:22:13.500 all over the world.
00:22:14.900 So my friend
00:22:15.620 who is Japanese,
00:22:16.800 she said to me,
00:22:17.580 you know,
00:22:17.820 no one in Japan
00:22:18.900 is going to understand
00:22:20.340 this podcast.
00:22:21.520 They don't even speak English
00:22:22.880 and they're voting
00:22:24.200 for podcasts,
00:22:26.020 top podcasts.
00:22:27.240 So to begin with,
00:22:28.400 this award
00:22:29.220 is ridiculous.
00:22:29.980 And they've already
00:22:31.380 nominated 25 podcasters.
00:22:34.640 It's obvious to me
00:22:35.440 that they want these people
00:22:36.500 to show up
00:22:37.400 at the award show
00:22:38.500 to get a broader audience.
00:22:40.380 And that's also why
00:22:41.300 they are nominating
00:22:43.040 a lot of conservatives
00:22:44.160 because they want
00:22:45.240 conservatives
00:22:45.820 to start watching
00:22:47.060 Golden Globes as well.
00:22:48.680 But here's the big catch.
00:22:50.900 Now,
00:22:51.500 according to Status,
00:22:53.180 which is a website
00:22:54.060 that they're referring to here,
00:22:55.460 the company behind
00:22:56.360 the ceremony,
00:22:57.220 Penske Media,
00:22:57.900 So Penske Media
00:22:59.040 owns also the Golden Globes
00:23:00.600 with Todd Bowley,
00:23:03.320 the billionaire.
00:23:04.600 And Penske Media
00:23:05.760 owns basically
00:23:06.940 all the trade magazines
00:23:08.020 in this town.
00:23:09.180 So keep that in mind.
00:23:10.400 Penske Media
00:23:10.980 has sent out
00:23:12.060 a pitch deck
00:23:13.460 to at least
00:23:14.580 some of the shows
00:23:15.580 eligible
00:23:16.120 for the awards
00:23:18.100 explaining
00:23:18.960 that they are
00:23:19.800 selling marketing packages
00:23:21.800 costing upwards
00:23:23.340 of $75,000
00:23:25.700 that allows
00:23:27.640 podcasters
00:23:28.500 to promote
00:23:29.100 their programs
00:23:29.960 directly to Globes
00:23:31.420 voters
00:23:31.980 who will determine
00:23:33.860 the winner.
00:23:35.260 So if you are nominated,
00:23:36.680 you can spend
00:23:37.260 $75,000
00:23:39.040 on a marketing package
00:23:42.100 so that
00:23:43.600 the voters
00:23:44.480 will know
00:23:45.000 who you are.
00:23:46.060 So the article
00:23:46.580 continues to say
00:23:47.400 that while nominated
00:23:48.260 artists and shows
00:23:49.340 have consistently
00:23:50.240 lobbied for industry awards,
00:23:52.400 yes,
00:23:52.740 I've seen that
00:23:53.360 in action,
00:23:53.960 status writer
00:23:55.580 Olive Darcy
00:23:56.640 argues that
00:23:57.380 the difference
00:23:57.980 this time
00:23:58.920 is that
00:24:00.220 PMC CEO
00:24:01.980 Penske Media
00:24:03.280 Jay Penske
00:24:04.520 owns
00:24:05.340 not just
00:24:06.180 the Globes
00:24:06.980 but also
00:24:07.600 the entertainment
00:24:08.280 media outlets
00:24:09.540 Variety,
00:24:10.380 Rolling Stone,
00:24:11.660 Deadline Hollywood,
00:24:12.940 Billboard,
00:24:13.720 and The Hollywood Reporter
00:24:15.100 which could be
00:24:16.200 considered
00:24:16.740 a conflict
00:24:17.880 of interest.
00:24:19.380 In other words,
00:24:20.560 the same
00:24:21.080 corporate entity
00:24:22.120 now both sets
00:24:23.440 the stage
00:24:24.120 and writes
00:24:24.960 the glowing
00:24:25.760 coverage.
00:24:27.080 So let's get back
00:24:27.840 to this
00:24:28.140 $75,000 package.
00:24:29.960 So what do you get
00:24:30.640 if you're nominated
00:24:31.320 and you want to pay
00:24:32.180 $75,000?
00:24:33.580 You can get this.
00:24:34.580 Someone like Carlson
00:24:35.580 or Owens
00:24:36.160 can pay tens of thousands
00:24:37.320 of dollars
00:24:37.860 to be feted
00:24:38.520 by Variety,
00:24:40.500 handed a trophy
00:24:41.620 and lavished
00:24:42.440 with glowing coverage
00:24:43.700 and social promotions
00:24:45.000 from one of the
00:24:46.840 industry's
00:24:47.320 most influential
00:24:48.160 and renowned
00:24:49.500 publications.
00:24:50.460 so you can
00:24:51.060 basically buy
00:24:52.520 an ad
00:24:53.680 in one of
00:24:54.780 Penske's
00:24:55.580 magazines.
00:24:57.840 So the ad
00:24:58.400 would maybe have
00:24:59.320 a little paid
00:25:00.120 sponsorship,
00:25:01.220 a disclosure
00:25:02.060 on it,
00:25:03.180 but they would
00:25:03.640 present it
00:25:04.520 like a real article.
00:25:06.040 Penske is offering
00:25:07.040 far-right influencers
00:25:08.380 who thrive on
00:25:09.320 outrage,
00:25:10.380 a glossy stage,
00:25:11.960 and an endorsement
00:25:13.040 of legitimacy.
00:25:14.780 This is why
00:25:15.800 I find Hollywood
00:25:17.000 so hypocritical,
00:25:18.680 especially considering
00:25:20.520 the Golden Globes
00:25:21.840 Vogue history.
00:25:24.300 So when I sued
00:25:24.940 them,
00:25:25.420 they realized
00:25:26.600 they needed
00:25:27.040 to make some
00:25:27.640 changes.
00:25:29.140 And what they
00:25:30.540 did
00:25:31.060 was just
00:25:32.520 open up
00:25:33.480 for more
00:25:34.080 diverse
00:25:34.940 Golden Globes.
00:25:36.380 So they
00:25:36.940 only added
00:25:38.200 people to
00:25:39.180 the voter's
00:25:39.920 body
00:25:40.280 with
00:25:40.960 ethnic
00:25:41.980 backgrounds
00:25:42.860 that fit
00:25:45.360 the narrative
00:25:46.060 right then.
00:25:46.880 they were
00:25:47.960 like the
00:25:48.360 definition
00:25:48.820 of
00:25:49.120 Vogue,
00:25:49.760 and now
00:25:50.140 they're
00:25:50.380 celebrating
00:25:51.080 all the
00:25:51.980 people who
00:25:52.600 were criticizing
00:25:53.460 them for
00:25:54.700 just that.
00:25:55.920 Hollywood is
00:25:56.640 just a joke.
00:25:57.940 I've given
00:25:58.300 up on
00:25:58.720 Hollywood.
00:25:59.600 Anyways,
00:26:00.100 at the end
00:26:00.480 of this
00:26:00.740 article,
00:26:01.380 it says
00:26:01.740 that it's
00:26:02.200 referring to
00:26:02.680 the
00:26:02.860 Ankler,
00:26:03.580 a newsletter,
00:26:04.720 saying that
00:26:05.560 they reported
00:26:06.520 that several
00:26:07.180 of the
00:26:07.520 podcasters
00:26:08.280 nominated
00:26:08.820 are still
00:26:09.460 weighing
00:26:10.000 whether to
00:26:10.600 bother
00:26:11.100 with the
00:26:11.900 $500 fee
00:26:13.060 to submit
00:26:14.160 themselves for
00:26:15.000 Globes
00:26:15.300 consideration
00:26:16.080 before its
00:26:17.280 October 31st
00:26:18.460 deadline.
00:26:19.340 Yes,
00:26:19.600 you have to
00:26:19.980 pay $500,
00:26:21.240 I guess,
00:26:21.580 just to accept
00:26:22.220 that you've
00:26:22.640 been nominated.
00:26:23.680 It's such a
00:26:24.460 money grab,
00:26:25.500 and it's
00:26:25.960 pretending to
00:26:26.780 celebrate art,
00:26:28.260 and all it
00:26:28.860 celebrates is
00:26:30.040 money.
00:26:31.100 Anyways,
00:26:31.500 that's it for me
00:26:32.040 on a Friday.
00:26:32.600 This was a
00:26:33.000 really long
00:26:33.460 podcast.
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