Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 25, 2025


Hollywood's laughing stock !!

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Kjersti Flaa
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Blake Lively Justin Baldoni Brian Friedman Kaylin Ford Ryan Reynolds Nicole Alexander Goverński Dollar Donut Flossom Talk Jenny Slate Blake Brown Wayfair Colleen Hoover Kevin Fridge Jamie Heath Switch
My lawsuit against Blake Lively !! How could they LET THIS HAPPEN !!？

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Saskia spills the tea on the latest in the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni Lawsuit and how the media are making her into a laughingstock, and the judge has finally stepped in to clear her name.

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00:00:45.260 Well, now we know the truth.
00:00:47.640 And the judge has ruled.
00:00:49.600 And this will make your day.
00:00:51.840 Yeah, we floss some talk.
00:00:56.400 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:57.940 I'm Saskia Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:01:00.760 and your voice of reason in a town built on the illusion.
00:01:04.520 Happy holidays, everyone.
00:01:06.420 If you celebrated Christmas yesterday like I did, I hope you had a good time.
00:01:10.380 And if you're celebrating today like they do here in America,
00:01:13.780 I hope also you're having a good time.
00:01:15.600 And if you're not celebrating any of that, I hope you're having a great Thursday.
00:01:19.360 So I wanted to jump on here quickly because there were a lot of things that were filed a couple of days ago.
00:01:24.060 And since I took yesterday off, I wanted to update you on what's going on right now. 0.81
00:01:29.920 It's so ridiculous, you guys.
00:01:32.780 If you followed my last couple of videos where I talked about, amongst other things, 0.87
00:01:37.400 these new articles that Blake Lively's team has planted in the media,
00:01:42.640 insinuating that there's been some really inappropriate questioning going on from Baldoni's lawyers.
00:01:48.520 Well, now we know the truth, and the judge has ruled, and this will make your day.
00:01:55.340 Also attached to that is a letter from Kevin Fritz, one of our favorite attorneys on the Baldoni's team.
00:02:02.880 And he is putting Blake's team in their place and letting us know what really happened here.
00:02:09.620 And Hollywood has spoken again, and it's not in Blake Lively's favor.
00:02:14.180 They are making her into a laughingstock.
00:02:17.020 And we have to talk about this wonderful article in People Magazine,
00:02:21.620 where a source for Blake Lively is explaining to us that she's focusing on her children and on Christmas right now,
00:02:29.700 and a little bit on her hair care brand as well.
00:02:32.480 Let's get into it.
00:02:33.740 I've spoken about this media stunt that Blake Lively's team did earlier this week.
00:02:39.180 It started in Variety when they published this story that made it seem like
00:02:43.760 Justin Baldoni's attorney had asked Blake Lively really inappropriate questions.
00:02:48.100 And they were even saying because of this, they had to implement this grape rule,
00:02:56.400 meaning I had to put a G in front there because YouTube doesn't like that word,
00:03:00.440 but meaning that everyone was like,
00:03:02.240 oh my God, they've been really asking her so many questions about her personal intimate life,
00:03:08.580 and this is unheard of.
00:03:10.760 All of this started with a letter that Blake Lively's attorneys sent to the judge
00:03:14.940 asking him to sanction the Wayfair parties.
00:03:17.980 This is something they keep doing.
00:03:19.720 I think this is the 10th time they're asking the judge for sanctions,
00:03:22.720 and they were saying they interrupted us in depositions.
00:03:25.360 They're acting like bullies, and then they're asking these inappropriate questions.
00:03:29.420 And one of the things that they mentioned that got picked up a lot on
00:03:32.860 is this expert witness called Nicole Alexander.
00:03:36.780 And I spoke about her, and I thought that Nicole Alexander was some kind of psychologist
00:03:43.560 and body image expert because that's what I read online, but that's wrong.
00:03:50.140 She's an expert in digital ecosystems and AI-mediated brand perception
00:03:55.460 and online reputation analysis.
00:03:58.620 So why would she get asked about Blake Lively's intimate life?
00:04:02.860 Makes no sense.
00:04:04.280 And she didn't get asked any of those questions
00:04:06.520 because now the Wayfair parties have attached her entire deposition,
00:04:10.980 and there's no such questions in there.
00:04:13.000 So what actually happened here is that Blake Lively's team said
00:04:16.180 those questions are off limits, but they never happened.
00:04:21.820 This is so shady.
00:04:24.260 Don't you think Blake Lively's team would have attached examples of those questions
00:04:29.680 of what they thought, hey, judge, look at this.
00:04:31.660 They asked this.
00:04:33.020 Isn't this inappropriate?
00:04:34.580 They didn't attach anything, and they can't point to anything.
00:04:38.200 And that is what Kevin Fridge is pointing out in this letter.
00:04:42.120 So basically, this witness was called in to analyze whether the backlash
00:04:46.540 against Blake Lively was organic or not.
00:04:50.800 And she concluded that it was 100% organic.
00:04:54.260 And of course, Blake Lively's team doesn't like that.
00:04:56.340 And so that's why they started arguing, and they're saying to the judge,
00:04:59.980 hey, we need more time with this witness because we were interrupted so much.
00:05:05.800 So they're basically saying that they didn't get the evidence that they needed
00:05:09.360 because Baldoni's attorneys were interrupting.
00:05:12.240 So now the judge has ruled, and it's not in Blake Lively's favor,
00:05:16.800 although he is giving them a little bit of what they want.
00:05:20.260 He is saying that they can get an extra hour with this witness,
00:05:24.940 and that Baldoni's team has to pay for that one hour.
00:05:28.640 I bet they spend a lot more money on attorneys to actually write these motions for sanctions
00:05:34.280 than they're actually getting from this one hour.
00:05:36.980 But anyways, no sanctions on Brian Friedman or on Kevin Fritz here.
00:05:43.240 But the judge is saying, please stop interrupting each other in the depositions.
00:05:47.280 And as we know now, discovery is over.
00:05:51.060 But Blake Lively's team will get one more hour to try and convince this witness
00:05:56.340 that the smear campaign was not organic.
00:06:00.840 Anyways, as far as we know now, there has been no depositions,
00:06:04.680 no witnesses, no one has ever been asked any questions
00:06:09.680 that this article in Variety is insinuating that has been asked.
00:06:15.720 So this was all a big PR stunt,
00:06:19.100 and that's exactly what Kevin Fritz is saying in this letter.
00:06:23.300 He's saying that Ms. Lively submitted to the court
00:06:26.600 only 35 pages from Ms. Alexander's deposition transcript,
00:06:31.080 a mere 10% thereof, presumably to create a false narrative.
00:06:37.580 Oh yes, she did.
00:06:39.240 And he continues to say the motion seemingly was filed solely to generate inflammatory headlines
00:06:44.960 and falsely besmirch the character of the wayfair parties.
00:06:49.920 And he also points out what we've been talking about here the whole time.
00:06:53.580 The only ongoing matter is Ms. Lively's use of the media 1.00
00:06:57.820 to dispatch others and distract the public from the legal issue at hand.
00:07:03.560 Yeah, that's what she keeps doing here, of course, because she doesn't have any evidence.
00:07:08.240 She needs to make a lot of locomotions, so we forget that she doesn't have any evidence. 1.00
00:07:12.900 And we think, wow, the wayfair parties are such bad guys.
00:07:17.460 Also, Kevin Fritz is pointing out that Blake Lively's teams are the ones interrupting them.
00:07:22.460 And he's saying here, examples of improper speaking objections
00:07:26.240 are those made by Ms. Lively's counsel at the deposition of non-party Jenny Slate's.
00:07:32.240 Of course, we can't see Jenny Slate's deposition yet, but I'm dying to see that.
00:07:36.480 I'm guessing she was deposed for about seven hours as well.
00:07:40.220 I don't know if they only talked about her leather pants for seven hours,
00:07:43.500 because that's the only accusation she had against Justin Baldoni.
00:07:48.580 But I'm sure as a lot of the other evidence is going to get unsealed
00:07:52.640 in just a couple of weeks, we are going to see that as well.
00:07:56.860 Okay, and I have to read a little bit from what Blake Lively's team filed here,
00:08:01.520 because this is a conversation between the attorneys.
00:08:04.440 As I said the other day, this is like kindergarten.
00:08:06.920 And here's another episode from the kindergarten
00:08:09.680 with the attorneys arguing with each other.
00:08:13.740 Lively's attorney saying,
00:08:14.900 are you following your counsel's instruction not to answer?
00:08:18.600 And Ms. Alexander is saying yes.
00:08:21.560 And then she asks again, well, you mentioned,
00:08:24.200 and then Mr. Fritz interrupts her and is saying,
00:08:26.660 just going forward, she's always going to follow my instructions not to answer.
00:08:30.320 So, and then Ms. Goverński is saying,
00:08:33.120 can you articulate your basis for instructing her not to answer?
00:08:37.860 And then Mr. Friedman jumps in and he's saying,
00:08:39.980 can we stop with these speaking objections?
00:08:41.760 And then Mr. Fritz is saying, sorry, I didn't know who that is.
00:08:45.680 And Mr. Friedman is saying, that's Brian Friedman.
00:08:48.500 Ms. Goverński is saying, it's my deposition.
00:08:51.420 And Mr. Friedman says, yeah, that's right.
00:08:53.560 And you're improperly handling it.
00:08:55.960 And you don't know what you're doing or how to practice law.
00:08:59.280 So stop with your speaking objections.
00:09:02.380 And Ms. Goverński is saying,
00:09:04.000 counsel, please mute Mr. Friedman,
00:09:05.780 who has not entered an appearance in this deposition.
00:09:08.680 And I'm not giving speaking objections.
00:09:10.500 You're instructing your own counsel not to give speaking objections.
00:09:14.380 It's my deposition.
00:09:16.740 And then Mr. Friedman is saying,
00:09:18.780 no, you're the one giving speaking objections as your mouth is moving right now.
00:09:23.380 I just find it so interesting that this behavior occurs in these kind of depositions,
00:09:29.100 that the attorneys are speaking to each other this way.
00:09:31.960 I think this is a toxic work environment, to be honest.
00:09:34.780 But anyways, I just wanted to read a little bit from that.
00:09:37.820 So you guys know what's going on in court and what these guys are arguing about at this point.
00:09:43.980 Okay, so let's get to Hollywood Reporter.
00:09:45.780 They made a list of 2025's biggest losers and biggest winners.
00:09:50.240 And guess who's on the loser list?
00:09:52.360 Well, they put both Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni there.
00:09:55.540 But I'm guessing they just don't want to pick a side here.
00:09:58.660 Because as you know, Justin Baldoni didn't have a choice.
00:10:01.580 I mean, Justin couldn't say, hey, please don't sue me.
00:10:04.080 I don't want part of it.
00:10:04.960 He was forced into this.
00:10:06.960 And that's what we have to remember.
00:10:08.420 He wasn't forced to suing her back for defamation.
00:10:11.620 But he chose that at the time because he thought it was so important to get his side of the story out as quickly as possible.
00:10:20.360 And I'm so glad he did that.
00:10:22.040 But as we know, that lawsuit was tossed out because the judge said,
00:10:27.040 you can't sue Blake Lively because she sued you for SH and retaliation,
00:10:32.700 which by this law doesn't allow you to sue her back. 0.99
00:10:36.760 He didn't look at any of the evidence.
00:10:38.460 He didn't rule on the lawsuit itself.
00:10:40.980 He just ruled on the law saying, you're actually not allowed to file this lawsuit.
00:10:45.880 But it allowed us to see the real picture here and for the truth to come out.
00:10:51.060 Anyway, back to the Hollywood Reporter.
00:10:53.240 This is what they're saying.
00:10:55.020 These two, pointing at Justin and Blake, sure weren't boring,
00:10:59.820 but they were and somehow still are locked in mutually assured destruction.
00:11:06.280 It's like watching a social and legal death spiral
00:11:09.240 where everybody who gets sucked into these two people's orbits ended up looking worse.
00:11:15.320 And nobody has actually gained anything.
00:11:18.940 I don't agree that everyone who gets dragged into this looks worse.
00:11:23.980 But the people who get dragged into it on Blake Lively's side definitely looks worse.
00:11:28.720 And they continue to say that nobody has actually gained anything except for the lawyers
00:11:34.320 and those of us texting popcorn emojis every time another story broke out about their feud.
00:11:41.760 How bad it was, question mark?
00:11:44.240 It ends with us author Colleen Hoover recently said she's now embarrassed by her own book. 0.92
00:11:51.200 So what does this tell us?
00:11:53.000 It tells us that no one in Hollywood believes Blake Lively's claims.
00:11:58.900 If they believe that she was traumatized by the way Justin Baldoni treated her on that set,
00:12:04.700 they wouldn't say that people texted popcorn emojis every time another story broke.
00:12:10.800 This, I think, for Ryan Reynolds especially, is not a great Christmas gift
00:12:16.400 because now he knows people are mocking his wife.
00:12:20.500 She's become the laughingstock of Hollywood and he is married to her.
00:12:25.300 And as you know, this has really hurt Ryan Reynolds' reputation as well
00:12:29.060 as he's one of the main characters here.
00:12:31.340 Yeah, it doesn't look good for Blake Lively.
00:12:33.880 And I'm betting her Christmas this year is not as good as it was last year.
00:12:38.000 A source told me that her sister and her husband
00:12:41.220 are going to celebrate Christmas with Blake and Ryan anyway.
00:12:45.320 They got disinvited and then they got invited again.
00:12:49.220 So now all of them are looking forward to spending Christmas together.
00:12:52.420 And of course, People Magazine had to make another reputational buffer piece.
00:12:57.840 And this time they're using an exclusive source.
00:13:01.360 It says here that Blake Lively is focused.
00:13:04.500 I don't know why they put that like this.
00:13:06.580 On holidays, not Justin Baldoni's legal battle.
00:13:10.560 Right now, it's all about the kids and family time for the actress,
00:13:13.980 not the litigation a source tells people.
00:13:17.540 I can assure you that Blake and Ryan are terrified right now.
00:13:22.000 They know that there is a bomb waiting for them in the new year
00:13:26.060 when all of this evidence is getting unsealed.
00:13:29.200 And I think if Blake Lively wanted to focus on her children,
00:13:33.060 she should have thought about that a long time ago
00:13:35.580 before she filed these lawsuits.
00:13:37.760 Because this is not only affecting her and her husband,
00:13:41.540 it's of course affecting her children as well.
00:13:43.760 I can imagine how much yelling and screaming has been going on
00:13:47.300 in their household since this happened.
00:13:50.320 Anyways, the story continues here saying that
00:13:52.960 Blake Lively is trying not to think about her ongoing legal battle
00:13:56.520 with Justin Baldoni.
00:13:57.920 She's trying not to think about it.
00:13:59.620 Okay.
00:13:59.760 The actress who shares four kids with husband Ryan Reynolds
00:14:03.820 is staying focused on the present as she heads into the holiday,
00:14:08.260 prioritizing time with her family above all else.
00:14:13.020 Remember, she's just like us and really relatable.
00:14:16.640 And she has really good values because she values family and her kids.
00:14:22.200 And it's Christmas, so we have to be nice to each other.
00:14:24.860 While she continues to balance work, including promoting her hairline.
00:14:31.580 Yes, never forget Blake Brown.
00:14:35.820 Even during Christmas, we have to mention Blake Brown.
00:14:40.120 Her mindset right now is about being a mom
00:14:43.600 and creating a special Christmas for her kids.
00:14:47.680 The source adds, anything beyond this is something she plans to take on
00:14:52.220 when time comes.
00:14:54.860 Her mentality is very much, next year is next year.
00:14:58.420 Right now, it's all about the kids and family time.
00:15:02.380 If she actually thought that family and family time is important,
00:15:06.160 she would never have filed that lawsuit before Christmas last year
00:15:10.560 because she knew she probably met Justin Baldoni's kids.
00:15:14.380 She probably met Jamie Heath's kids.
00:15:16.760 And still, she chose to do what she did before Christmas last year
00:15:22.120 to make sure that everyone that she sued would have a horrible, horrible Christmas. 0.77
00:15:29.100 Anyways, thank you guys so much for responding to my community post.
00:15:33.300 I was asking you guys if you could help me remember all the public backlash,
00:15:38.180 100% organic backlash that Blake Lively received in 2025.
00:15:42.500 A lot of you guys pointed out things that happened before,
00:15:45.800 but I wanted to see what has she done this year
00:15:48.640 that backfired on her 100% organically.
00:15:52.600 And there is a lot.
00:15:53.980 So I'm going to make an episode about that.
00:15:56.440 I also have other interesting, fun episodes planned for this Christmas.
00:16:00.060 So please stay tuned.
00:16:01.280 I promise you a lot of popcorn emoji stuff is going to come out.
00:16:05.220 Anyways, thank you guys so much for watching.
00:16:07.460 I truly, truly appreciate your support.
00:16:09.880 I can't believe it's been a year already that I'm talking about this case.
00:16:14.520 It's insane.
00:16:15.880 And I think next year is going to be even crazier.
00:16:19.240 So hold your horses.
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00:16:27.120 And I'll see you tomorrow.
00:16:28.780 Bye!
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