Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - December 25, 2025


Hollywood's laughing stock !!


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Saskia spills the tea on the latest in the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni Lawsuit and how the media are making her into a laughingstock, and the judge has finally stepped in to clear her name.

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00:00:45.260 Well, now we know the truth.
00:00:47.640 And the judge has ruled.
00:00:49.600 And this will make your day.
00:00:51.840 Yeah, we floss some talk.
00:00:56.400 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk.
00:00:57.940 I'm Saskia Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:01:00.760 and your voice of reason in a town built on the illusion.
00:01:04.520 Happy holidays, everyone.
00:01:06.420 If you celebrated Christmas yesterday like I did, I hope you had a good time.
00:01:10.380 And if you're celebrating today like they do here in America,
00:01:13.780 I hope also you're having a good time.
00:01:15.600 And if you're not celebrating any of that, I hope you're having a great Thursday.
00:01:19.360 So I wanted to jump on here quickly because there were a lot of things that were filed a couple of days ago.
00:01:24.060 And since I took yesterday off, I wanted to update you on what's going on right now.
00:01:29.920 It's so ridiculous, you guys.
00:01:32.780 If you followed my last couple of videos where I talked about, amongst other things,
00:01:37.400 these new articles that Blake Lively's team has planted in the media,
00:01:42.640 insinuating that there's been some really inappropriate questioning going on from Baldoni's lawyers.
00:01:48.520 Well, now we know the truth, and the judge has ruled, and this will make your day.
00:01:55.340 Also attached to that is a letter from Kevin Fritz, one of our favorite attorneys on the Baldoni's team.
00:02:02.880 And he is putting Blake's team in their place and letting us know what really happened here.
00:02:09.620 And Hollywood has spoken again, and it's not in Blake Lively's favor.
00:02:14.180 They are making her into a laughingstock.
00:02:17.020 And we have to talk about this wonderful article in People Magazine,
00:02:21.620 where a source for Blake Lively is explaining to us that she's focusing on her children and on Christmas right now,
00:02:29.700 and a little bit on her hair care brand as well.
00:02:32.480 Let's get into it.
00:02:33.740 I've spoken about this media stunt that Blake Lively's team did earlier this week.
00:02:39.180 It started in Variety when they published this story that made it seem like
00:02:43.760 Justin Baldoni's attorney had asked Blake Lively really inappropriate questions.
00:02:48.100 And they were even saying because of this, they had to implement this grape rule,
00:02:56.400 meaning I had to put a G in front there because YouTube doesn't like that word,
00:03:00.440 but meaning that everyone was like,
00:03:02.240 oh my God, they've been really asking her so many questions about her personal intimate life,
00:03:08.580 and this is unheard of.
00:03:10.760 All of this started with a letter that Blake Lively's attorneys sent to the judge
00:03:14.940 asking him to sanction the Wayfair parties.
00:03:17.980 This is something they keep doing.
00:03:19.720 I think this is the 10th time they're asking the judge for sanctions,
00:03:22.720 and they were saying they interrupted us in depositions.
00:03:25.360 They're acting like bullies, and then they're asking these inappropriate questions.
00:03:29.420 And one of the things that they mentioned that got picked up a lot on
00:03:32.860 is this expert witness called Nicole Alexander.
00:03:36.780 And I spoke about her, and I thought that Nicole Alexander was some kind of psychologist
00:03:43.560 and body image expert because that's what I read online, but that's wrong.
00:03:50.140 She's an expert in digital ecosystems and AI-mediated brand perception
00:03:55.460 and online reputation analysis.
00:03:58.620 So why would she get asked about Blake Lively's intimate life?
00:04:02.860 Makes no sense.
00:04:04.280 And she didn't get asked any of those questions
00:04:06.520 because now the Wayfair parties have attached her entire deposition,
00:04:10.980 and there's no such questions in there.
00:04:13.000 So what actually happened here is that Blake Lively's team said
00:04:16.180 those questions are off limits, but they never happened.
00:04:21.820 This is so shady.
00:04:24.260 Don't you think Blake Lively's team would have attached examples of those questions
00:04:29.680 of what they thought, hey, judge, look at this.
00:04:31.660 They asked this.
00:04:33.020 Isn't this inappropriate?
00:04:34.580 They didn't attach anything, and they can't point to anything.
00:04:38.200 And that is what Kevin Fridge is pointing out in this letter.
00:04:42.120 So basically, this witness was called in to analyze whether the backlash
00:04:46.540 against Blake Lively was organic or not.
00:04:50.800 And she concluded that it was 100% organic.
00:04:54.260 And of course, Blake Lively's team doesn't like that.
00:04:56.340 And so that's why they started arguing, and they're saying to the judge,
00:04:59.980 hey, we need more time with this witness because we were interrupted so much.
00:05:05.800 So they're basically saying that they didn't get the evidence that they needed
00:05:09.360 because Baldoni's attorneys were interrupting.
00:05:12.240 So now the judge has ruled, and it's not in Blake Lively's favor,
00:05:16.800 although he is giving them a little bit of what they want.
00:05:20.260 He is saying that they can get an extra hour with this witness,
00:05:24.940 and that Baldoni's team has to pay for that one hour.
00:05:28.640 I bet they spend a lot more money on attorneys to actually write these motions for sanctions
00:05:34.280 than they're actually getting from this one hour.
00:05:36.980 But anyways, no sanctions on Brian Friedman or on Kevin Fritz here.
00:05:43.240 But the judge is saying, please stop interrupting each other in the depositions.
00:05:47.280 And as we know now, discovery is over.
00:05:51.060 But Blake Lively's team will get one more hour to try and convince this witness
00:05:56.340 that the smear campaign was not organic.
00:06:00.840 Anyways, as far as we know now, there has been no depositions,
00:06:04.680 no witnesses, no one has ever been asked any questions
00:06:09.680 that this article in Variety is insinuating that has been asked.
00:06:15.720 So this was all a big PR stunt,
00:06:19.100 and that's exactly what Kevin Fritz is saying in this letter.
00:06:23.300 He's saying that Ms. Lively submitted to the court
00:06:26.600 only 35 pages from Ms. Alexander's deposition transcript,
00:06:31.080 a mere 10% thereof, presumably to create a false narrative.
00:06:37.580 Oh yes, she did.
00:06:39.240 And he continues to say the motion seemingly was filed solely to generate inflammatory headlines
00:06:44.960 and falsely besmirch the character of the wayfair parties.
00:06:49.920 And he also points out what we've been talking about here the whole time.
00:06:53.580 The only ongoing matter is Ms. Lively's use of the media 1.00
00:06:57.820 to dispatch others and distract the public from the legal issue at hand.
00:07:03.560 Yeah, that's what she keeps doing here, of course, because she doesn't have any evidence.
00:07:08.240 She needs to make a lot of locomotions, so we forget that she doesn't have any evidence. 1.00
00:07:12.900 And we think, wow, the wayfair parties are such bad guys.
00:07:17.460 Also, Kevin Fritz is pointing out that Blake Lively's teams are the ones interrupting them.
00:07:22.460 And he's saying here, examples of improper speaking objections
00:07:26.240 are those made by Ms. Lively's counsel at the deposition of non-party Jenny Slate's.
00:07:32.240 Of course, we can't see Jenny Slate's deposition yet, but I'm dying to see that.
00:07:36.480 I'm guessing she was deposed for about seven hours as well.
00:07:40.220 I don't know if they only talked about her leather pants for seven hours,
00:07:43.500 because that's the only accusation she had against Justin Baldoni.
00:07:48.580 But I'm sure as a lot of the other evidence is going to get unsealed
00:07:52.640 in just a couple of weeks, we are going to see that as well.
00:07:56.860 Okay, and I have to read a little bit from what Blake Lively's team filed here,
00:08:01.520 because this is a conversation between the attorneys.
00:08:04.440 As I said the other day, this is like kindergarten.
00:08:06.920 And here's another episode from the kindergarten
00:08:09.680 with the attorneys arguing with each other.
00:08:13.740 Lively's attorney saying,
00:08:14.900 are you following your counsel's instruction not to answer?
00:08:18.600 And Ms. Alexander is saying yes.
00:08:21.560 And then she asks again, well, you mentioned,
00:08:24.200 and then Mr. Fritz interrupts her and is saying,
00:08:26.660 just going forward, she's always going to follow my instructions not to answer.
00:08:30.320 So, and then Ms. Goverński is saying,
00:08:33.120 can you articulate your basis for instructing her not to answer?
00:08:37.860 And then Mr. Friedman jumps in and he's saying,
00:08:39.980 can we stop with these speaking objections?
00:08:41.760 And then Mr. Fritz is saying, sorry, I didn't know who that is.
00:08:45.680 And Mr. Friedman is saying, that's Brian Friedman.
00:08:48.500 Ms. Goverński is saying, it's my deposition.
00:08:51.420 And Mr. Friedman says, yeah, that's right.
00:08:53.560 And you're improperly handling it.
00:08:55.960 And you don't know what you're doing or how to practice law.
00:08:59.280 So stop with your speaking objections.
00:09:02.380 And Ms. Goverński is saying,
00:09:04.000 counsel, please mute Mr. Friedman,
00:09:05.780 who has not entered an appearance in this deposition.
00:09:08.680 And I'm not giving speaking objections.
00:09:10.500 You're instructing your own counsel not to give speaking objections.
00:09:14.380 It's my deposition.
00:09:16.740 And then Mr. Friedman is saying,
00:09:18.780 no, you're the one giving speaking objections as your mouth is moving right now.
00:09:23.380 I just find it so interesting that this behavior occurs in these kind of depositions,
00:09:29.100 that the attorneys are speaking to each other this way.
00:09:31.960 I think this is a toxic work environment, to be honest.
00:09:34.780 But anyways, I just wanted to read a little bit from that.
00:09:37.820 So you guys know what's going on in court and what these guys are arguing about at this point.
00:09:43.980 Okay, so let's get to Hollywood Reporter.
00:09:45.780 They made a list of 2025's biggest losers and biggest winners.
00:09:50.240 And guess who's on the loser list?
00:09:52.360 Well, they put both Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni there.
00:09:55.540 But I'm guessing they just don't want to pick a side here.
00:09:58.660 Because as you know, Justin Baldoni didn't have a choice.
00:10:01.580 I mean, Justin couldn't say, hey, please don't sue me.
00:10:04.080 I don't want part of it.
00:10:04.960 He was forced into this.
00:10:06.960 And that's what we have to remember.
00:10:08.420 He wasn't forced to suing her back for defamation.
00:10:11.620 But he chose that at the time because he thought it was so important to get his side of the story out as quickly as possible.
00:10:20.360 And I'm so glad he did that.
00:10:22.040 But as we know, that lawsuit was tossed out because the judge said,
00:10:27.040 you can't sue Blake Lively because she sued you for SH and retaliation,
00:10:32.700 which by this law doesn't allow you to sue her back. 0.99
00:10:36.760 He didn't look at any of the evidence.
00:10:38.460 He didn't rule on the lawsuit itself.
00:10:40.980 He just ruled on the law saying, you're actually not allowed to file this lawsuit.
00:10:45.880 But it allowed us to see the real picture here and for the truth to come out.
00:10:51.060 Anyway, back to the Hollywood Reporter.
00:10:53.240 This is what they're saying.
00:10:55.020 These two, pointing at Justin and Blake, sure weren't boring,
00:10:59.820 but they were and somehow still are locked in mutually assured destruction.
00:11:06.280 It's like watching a social and legal death spiral
00:11:09.240 where everybody who gets sucked into these two people's orbits ended up looking worse.
00:11:15.320 And nobody has actually gained anything.
00:11:18.940 I don't agree that everyone who gets dragged into this looks worse.
00:11:23.980 But the people who get dragged into it on Blake Lively's side definitely looks worse.
00:11:28.720 And they continue to say that nobody has actually gained anything except for the lawyers
00:11:34.320 and those of us texting popcorn emojis every time another story broke out about their feud.
00:11:41.760 How bad it was, question mark?
00:11:44.240 It ends with us author Colleen Hoover recently said she's now embarrassed by her own book. 0.92
00:11:51.200 So what does this tell us?
00:11:53.000 It tells us that no one in Hollywood believes Blake Lively's claims.
00:11:58.900 If they believe that she was traumatized by the way Justin Baldoni treated her on that set,
00:12:04.700 they wouldn't say that people texted popcorn emojis every time another story broke.
00:12:10.800 This, I think, for Ryan Reynolds especially, is not a great Christmas gift
00:12:16.400 because now he knows people are mocking his wife.
00:12:20.500 She's become the laughingstock of Hollywood and he is married to her.
00:12:25.300 And as you know, this has really hurt Ryan Reynolds' reputation as well
00:12:29.060 as he's one of the main characters here.
00:12:31.340 Yeah, it doesn't look good for Blake Lively.
00:12:33.880 And I'm betting her Christmas this year is not as good as it was last year.
00:12:38.000 A source told me that her sister and her husband
00:12:41.220 are going to celebrate Christmas with Blake and Ryan anyway.
00:12:45.320 They got disinvited and then they got invited again.
00:12:49.220 So now all of them are looking forward to spending Christmas together.
00:12:52.420 And of course, People Magazine had to make another reputational buffer piece.
00:12:57.840 And this time they're using an exclusive source.
00:13:01.360 It says here that Blake Lively is focused.
00:13:04.500 I don't know why they put that like this.
00:13:06.580 On holidays, not Justin Baldoni's legal battle.
00:13:10.560 Right now, it's all about the kids and family time for the actress,
00:13:13.980 not the litigation a source tells people.
00:13:17.540 I can assure you that Blake and Ryan are terrified right now.
00:13:22.000 They know that there is a bomb waiting for them in the new year
00:13:26.060 when all of this evidence is getting unsealed.
00:13:29.200 And I think if Blake Lively wanted to focus on her children,
00:13:33.060 she should have thought about that a long time ago
00:13:35.580 before she filed these lawsuits.
00:13:37.760 Because this is not only affecting her and her husband,
00:13:41.540 it's of course affecting her children as well.
00:13:43.760 I can imagine how much yelling and screaming has been going on
00:13:47.300 in their household since this happened.
00:13:50.320 Anyways, the story continues here saying that
00:13:52.960 Blake Lively is trying not to think about her ongoing legal battle
00:13:56.520 with Justin Baldoni.
00:13:57.920 She's trying not to think about it.
00:13:59.620 Okay.
00:13:59.760 The actress who shares four kids with husband Ryan Reynolds
00:14:03.820 is staying focused on the present as she heads into the holiday,
00:14:08.260 prioritizing time with her family above all else.
00:14:13.020 Remember, she's just like us and really relatable.
00:14:16.640 And she has really good values because she values family and her kids.
00:14:22.200 And it's Christmas, so we have to be nice to each other.
00:14:24.860 While she continues to balance work, including promoting her hairline.
00:14:31.580 Yes, never forget Blake Brown.
00:14:35.820 Even during Christmas, we have to mention Blake Brown.
00:14:40.120 Her mindset right now is about being a mom
00:14:43.600 and creating a special Christmas for her kids.
00:14:47.680 The source adds, anything beyond this is something she plans to take on
00:14:52.220 when time comes.
00:14:54.860 Her mentality is very much, next year is next year.
00:14:58.420 Right now, it's all about the kids and family time.
00:15:02.380 If she actually thought that family and family time is important,
00:15:06.160 she would never have filed that lawsuit before Christmas last year
00:15:10.560 because she knew she probably met Justin Baldoni's kids.
00:15:14.380 She probably met Jamie Heath's kids.
00:15:16.760 And still, she chose to do what she did before Christmas last year
00:15:22.120 to make sure that everyone that she sued would have a horrible, horrible Christmas. 0.77
00:15:29.100 Anyways, thank you guys so much for responding to my community post.
00:15:33.300 I was asking you guys if you could help me remember all the public backlash,
00:15:38.180 100% organic backlash that Blake Lively received in 2025.
00:15:42.500 A lot of you guys pointed out things that happened before,
00:15:45.800 but I wanted to see what has she done this year
00:15:48.640 that backfired on her 100% organically.
00:15:52.600 And there is a lot.
00:15:53.980 So I'm going to make an episode about that.
00:15:56.440 I also have other interesting, fun episodes planned for this Christmas.
00:16:00.060 So please stay tuned.
00:16:01.280 I promise you a lot of popcorn emoji stuff is going to come out.
00:16:05.220 Anyways, thank you guys so much for watching.
00:16:07.460 I truly, truly appreciate your support.
00:16:09.880 I can't believe it's been a year already that I'm talking about this case.
00:16:14.520 It's insane.
00:16:15.880 And I think next year is going to be even crazier.
00:16:19.240 So hold your horses.
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00:16:28.780 Bye!
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