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00:00:39.340 So he was there the entire time and he didn't notice anything.

00:00:45.140 Yeah, we've lost some talk.

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00:00:51.620 I'm Tianshti Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller, and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion.

00:00:58.060 So the judge has spoken again.

00:01:01.500 It wasn't as I expected, but I guess this is kind of good.

00:01:06.960 It is all about the evidence that Justin Baldoni filed last week,

00:01:11.640 where he added 275 attachments to his motion for summary judgment,

00:01:16.620 and 183 of those attachments were sealed.

00:01:21.200 And Blake Lively has been fighting like crazy to keep it that way.

00:01:25.960 She does not want you to see that evidence.

00:01:29.380 And now Sony has entered as well, and they sent a letter to the judge as well,

00:01:33.700 saying, please, please, please don't show this to anyone yet.

00:01:37.260 We need to make a plan here.

00:01:39.000 So the judge has responded.

00:01:41.520 Let's get into that.

00:01:42.700 But also we have to talk about how Jenny Slate was so offended by that comment by Justin Baldoni

00:01:50.360 when he said that her leather pants looked sexy.

00:01:53.000 Remember that?

00:01:54.220 Now someone shared this podcast with me where Jenny Slate speaks very comfortable about her bush

00:02:02.260 and also about how she feels about having bleep with her husband when there is a dog present in the room.

00:02:11.820 And I think we should talk about how Hasan Minhaj, who played Jenny Slate's husband in It Ends With Us,

00:02:18.880 why is he not involved in any of this drama?

00:02:23.420 Why is he the only cast member who didn't feel the pressure to pick a side?

00:02:28.600 Also, the fight goes on about these signal messages.

00:02:32.280 I spoke about them a few times before.

00:02:34.480 These are the text messages that Blake believe contains all the information she needs to prove her case.

00:02:42.120 So if you follow this case, you know that Baldoni's team had been accused of using something called auto-delete,

00:02:49.340 which means that as soon as you read a message on Signal, it gets deleted.

00:02:53.060 And Blake thinks this is evidence-spoiltation, and she wants to sanction all the defendants,

00:02:59.280 eight people that were part of using Signal in general.

00:03:04.200 And now Baldoni's team has offered all the declarations from Baldoni and the Wayfair team

00:03:10.780 talking about the Signal messages, and it doesn't look good for Blake.

00:03:15.120 Anyway, let's talk about all this new evidence that Baldoni filed last week

00:03:20.280 that I've been so excited to dig my teeth into, and then, yeah, it's not there yet.

00:03:27.140 I'm so sorry to say that we do not have more of that evidence unsealed at this moment.

00:03:34.600 As I said, Blake's team have been so desperate to keep this sealed,

00:03:39.500 and they told the judge that we don't have time to look through all of this.

00:03:42.720 It's a lot. It's overwhelming.

00:03:44.300 And they wanted another two and a half weeks to go through everything.

00:03:50.000 Now the judge said, I don't want to go through one by one of all this evidence

00:03:54.800 to decide if it's going to get sealed, unsealed.

00:03:58.020 I'm going to give all parties the same deadline for trying to convince me to seal

00:04:02.960 or to continue to seal some of this evidence.

00:04:06.840 That date is now December 19th,

00:04:10.400 which is basically the day Blake Lively filed her CRD complaint.

00:04:15.440 So big anniversary for Blake Lively.

00:04:17.800 The judge is not doing that to protect Blake in any way.

00:04:21.200 He's just doing it to avoid more mess.

00:04:24.820 What this means, though, is that we probably won't see a lot of that evidence being unsealed

00:04:31.500 until probably early or mid-January.

00:04:34.500 But everything will be unsealed.

00:04:37.640 The only reason why some parts maybe will be for attorneys' eyes only

00:04:42.460 is if it is some industry secret or something like that.

00:04:46.420 But everything that's related to this case will be open to the public.

00:04:52.640 The judge made it crystal clear that he wants the public to have access to all this evidence

00:04:57.720 before he makes any decision of the motion for summary judgment.

00:05:03.920 As much as I want the judge to just toss this out,

00:05:07.700 I really kind of hope that there will be a trial

00:05:11.380 because I feel like that is the best way for all these people to get vindicated.

00:05:17.400 And I think for Baldoni and for everyone to sit there on the stand

00:05:21.020 and tell their side of the story.

00:05:22.880 And selfishly enough, I really hope that's going to happen.

00:05:25.540 As I said, Sony just filed a letter to the judge asking the judge

00:05:30.340 to delay unsealing the portion of evidence that they're involved in.

00:05:36.060 So they're saying that Wayfarer just filed 26 documents

00:05:40.100 and 34 pages of Sony depositions in their summary judgment motion.

00:05:46.200 And some of the material is marked AEO, attorneys' eyes only.

00:05:50.880 And Sony says that, oh, we didn't know all of this was going to be filed

00:05:53.760 and we tried to reach out to Wayfarer.

00:05:55.880 They didn't respond to us.

00:05:57.360 Now, judge, please give up some more time here.

00:06:00.060 And I find it a little weird that they didn't know all of this was going to be filed

00:06:03.100 when they did actually sit down for depositions.

00:06:05.700 What were they thinking that we're going to use the depositions for?

00:06:08.320 So they know that they're important witnesses here.

00:06:11.400 But of course, they're freaking out about all this information coming out.

00:06:14.620 As we know from Justin's filings, Sony has been very involved here.

00:06:18.820 They know a lot of what's going on, the power struggle between Blake and Justin.

00:06:25.080 And they were just trying to keep the peace between them.

00:06:28.600 But we've only seen the evidence from Baldoni's side of his communication with Sony.

00:06:33.700 We haven't seen Blake's communication with Sony.

00:06:36.660 And that's what I think is going to be really interesting.

00:06:38.900 Because as we know from Justin's filings, Sony didn't really want to pick a side here.

00:06:43.380 But they felt a lot of pressure from Blake.

00:06:47.200 And they communicated that to Baldoni.

00:06:50.520 And we also have to remember, Sony had a representative present during that meeting

00:06:57.060 at Blake and Ryan's penthouse when Ryan was yelling at Justin for five or six hours straight

00:07:03.880 because he said that his wife felt fat shamed by him.

00:07:08.100 And she felt uncomfortable with things that he did on the set.

00:07:11.660 So Sony was there.

00:07:13.600 They were present at that meeting.

00:07:15.600 So I'm really curious to find out exactly what Ryan said to Justin.

00:07:21.380 Because we will find out.

00:07:23.420 We also don't know the story behind Tony Vincikira, the CEO of Sony,

00:07:29.700 who came out publicly and supported Blake after the premiere.

00:07:35.240 He said to Hollywood Reporter at the time,

00:07:37.960 Blake's passion and commitment to advancing the conversation around DV is commendable.

00:07:45.640 We love working with Blake and we want to do 12 more movies with her.

00:07:50.980 He has since retired, by the way.

00:07:53.280 But this is what he said to the press at the time.

00:07:56.740 Who knows what was behind that statement?

00:08:00.260 If he did this voluntarily or if someone maybe asked him to do that.

00:08:05.940 We will find that out too.

00:08:07.640 In a Hollywood Reporter article that was published in February this year,

00:08:11.880 they went to all the details of Sony's involvement.

00:08:17.140 And one of the things that they said is that what no one knew at the time was that Sony had,

00:08:23.100 for months, been playing the unintended role of mediator in what has erupted into the biggest uncivil war in recent Hollywood history.

00:08:33.160 And it says here that Vincikira's statement is just one of the numerous examples all along the way

00:08:38.540 where Sony seemingly attempted to support and appease Lively,

00:08:44.040 even as Baldoni's grip on the movie slowly but surely fell apart.

00:08:48.560 Sony, which declined to comment for this story,

00:08:52.600 appeared to have little choices but to make Lively its priority,

00:08:57.060 since she was vital to the film's marketing and release,

00:09:00.300 and Sony was aware of a possible troubled set.

00:09:03.780 So as we learned, Blake refused to promote the movie,

00:09:07.500 unless she got all the power, basically, and she used Sony.

00:09:12.600 She used Sony to pressure the Wayfair parties. 0.64

00:09:15.800 That is the route that she went, and she said to Sony that I can't speak to Wayfair parties about this

00:09:21.100 because I don't speak to them, and you have to make them do these things for me.

00:09:26.140 And also something we will hopefully find out is what happened during this phone call.

00:09:31.720 As I say here on May 26, 2023,

00:09:35.400 Blake made a phone call to then-executive Angie Giannetti

00:09:40.000 and said that she was concerned about unwelcoming and inappropriate behavior

00:09:46.240 by Baldoni and the Wayfair CEO Jamie Heath on the sets.

00:09:50.980 Then Giannetti said to Blake,

00:09:52.740 you have to go to HR at the Wayfair to complain about things.

00:09:56.980 And Blake said, you know, they don't listen to me over there.

00:10:00.100 You have to take care of this.

00:10:01.980 Baldoni's team, on the other hand,

00:10:03.420 explains what happened in this conversation differently.

00:10:06.440 And someone here says, a source close to the matter actually,

00:10:10.840 says that Lively did not call Sony to complain about behavior on the set.

00:10:16.140 She called to complain about COVID protocols on the set.

00:10:22.000 She was worried about getting COVID.

00:10:23.740 As I'm sure Andrew Giannetti has been deposed already

00:10:27.240 and had to explain what that conversation was about.

00:10:31.520 Sony also pressured the Wayfair parties to sign that list of 17 demands.

00:10:37.040 And one of the demands in those 17 points

00:10:39.580 was that Sony agreed to send their representative,

00:10:42.860 Angie Giannetti, to the set

00:10:44.880 and to hire an A-list veteran producer

00:10:48.180 to aid Lively and represent the studio.

00:10:51.580 So Sony was there.

00:10:53.180 But as we know, Blake said that after that list was signed

00:10:57.040 and they came back to filming, she had no issues.

00:10:59.720 Also, Sony was, of course, informed and very involved

00:11:04.080 in the editing that Blake Lively took over for the movie

00:11:07.980 and her demands to hire her own editor. 1.00

00:11:11.660 And as we know, she reached out to Shane Reed,

00:11:14.160 who worked with Ryan Reynolds on Deadpool and Wolverine.

00:11:18.200 And she demanded that he would take over her cut of the movie.

00:11:21.800 And we also know that Blake's cut of the movie

00:11:24.700 had a lower score than Justin Baldoni's cut of the movie.

00:11:28.700 But still, Sony went for Blake's version of the film.

00:11:34.020 And I think that itself is so telling of how much power Blake had over Sony.

00:11:39.520 And the reason for that is one thing or one person.

00:11:43.680 And that is Ryan Reynolds.

00:11:45.240 Because Lively would never have gotten away with this kind of behavior

00:11:48.460 if she wasn't married to Ryan.

00:11:50.400 So bottom line here is Sony allowed all of this to happen.

00:11:53.680 They allowed Blake to get away with anything that she wanted.

00:11:56.540 And they publicly supported her.

00:11:59.500 And that's why I think this is going to be so interesting

00:12:02.420 to see all this evidence come out.

00:12:05.440 To see what Sony said behind Justin Baldoni's back.

00:12:09.040 And we also know that Sony really wanted Taylor Swift's song in the trailer.

00:12:13.860 And the only way to make that happen was to keep Blake happy.

00:12:18.720 So yeah, it's going to be very, very interesting

00:12:21.180 when all this explosive evidence is being unsealed

00:12:25.140 and we got to see what really went on behind the scenes.

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00:15:44.520 Okay, so back to this Jenny Slate podcast.

00:15:47.280 Thank you so much, Mary-Kate, for pointing this out.

00:15:49.780 I find this so telling because, as you know,

00:15:52.860 Jenny Slate was so upset and so offended

00:15:54.680 when Justin Baldoni made a comment

00:15:57.200 about her black leather pants in the movie

00:16:01.040 or in a scene she was about to shoot

00:16:03.300 for It Ends With Us.

00:16:04.680 Now this podcast shows a side of Jenny Slate

00:16:08.100 that really proves that she is not a type 1.00

00:16:12.680 that would get offended by something like this.

00:16:15.200 That doesn't make any sense to me.

00:16:17.040 When you hear what she's talking about here

00:16:18.900 with one other woman and two men present,

00:16:21.920 she starts talking about how she likes

00:16:23.640 to style her private area.

00:16:25.720 I used to get, you know, major bikini wax

00:16:28.900 and now I'm like, no, that's not where I'm at.

00:16:31.020 You know, like I'm full bush in the front.

00:16:33.680 But I will say, one of my delights 0.99

00:16:36.180 is getting my ass crack waxed. 0.99

00:16:39.660 I love how it feels. 1.00

00:16:40.900 I love how it feels to have such a smooth butt crack. 0.93

00:16:44.940 Yeah, it feels so good. 0.89

00:16:46.280 Oh, you mean after, not like the actual experience of waxing.

00:16:47.580 But when it's happening, I'm just like-

00:16:49.380 Here it comes.

00:16:50.140 Whee! 1.00

00:16:50.820 Like there is something about it that I'm like-

00:16:52.560 It doesn't hurt.

00:16:52.840 Yeah, does that sound like a woman 1.00

00:16:54.580 that would get really offended and shocked

00:16:57.400 when someone calls your pants sexy?

00:17:00.300 I just find that really, really hard to believe.

00:17:04.780 Also, the conversation continued between these people

00:17:08.360 when they started talking about having blip in a room

00:17:12.320 when there is a dog present.

00:17:14.600 And Jenny Slate willingly offered her experiences

00:17:18.200 that she has with her husband

00:17:19.980 when there is a dog present.

00:17:22.780 Is anyone here upset with their dog in the room?

00:17:25.180 No.

00:17:26.240 Sometimes I don't have a choice.

00:17:27.840 There's nothing you can do.

00:17:29.120 Yeah.

00:17:29.740 And they're scratching at the door.

00:17:31.060 I know, that's the thing.

00:17:32.260 You close the door and it ruins it every time.

00:17:34.660 And that's-

00:17:35.020 I just don't think about it.

00:17:36.360 Yeah.

00:17:37.660 Yeah, I try to sneak it in when she's out.

00:17:39.600 When I'm in the zone, I'm in the zone.

00:17:42.680 Yeah.

00:17:42.880 What's going?

00:17:44.420 You know, when you go.

00:17:46.420 Finish complete.

00:17:47.680 Oh, when the train arrives at the station.

00:17:49.460 Yeah.

00:17:49.820 When you go.

00:17:50.760 When you go.

00:17:51.140 The story juice?

00:17:52.260 Yeah.

00:17:53.020 Yeah.

00:17:53.160 Does that sound like a woman to you 0.97

00:17:54.540 that would get really offended

00:17:56.080 by someone saying that their pants look sexy?

00:17:59.280 I just find that so hard to believe.

00:18:02.640 Yeah, it's the hypocrisy that really gets me in this case

00:18:05.500 that I find so frustrating.

00:18:07.660 And I wonder what really went on behind the scenes

00:18:10.800 of what Blake and Jenny Slate were discussing.

00:18:14.220 I would love to see her deposition as well

00:18:17.280 as we will get to see, thankfully,

00:18:19.960 so we know what really happened here.

00:18:21.920 Because the way they've been trying to portray Justin

00:18:24.600 as being a creep on the set,

00:18:26.020 it really doesn't make any sense.

00:18:29.440 And if that's really the most revealing evidence

00:18:31.860 that Jenny Slate has from Justin Baldoni on the set,

00:18:35.580 that just says it all.

00:18:37.140 As we know, which brings me to the next thing here,

00:18:41.020 is that Hasan Minhaj,

00:18:43.680 who played Jenny Slate's husband in the movie,

00:18:47.580 he never took sides.

00:18:49.040 And why is that?

00:18:51.740 Is it that Blake and Ryan didn't promise him anything?

00:18:54.900 If he took sides?

00:18:57.460 Or is it that he's a decent human being?

00:19:00.440 Or is it that he was actually telling the truth?

00:19:03.720 And he said, you know,

00:19:04.860 I don't have anything to add here

00:19:06.540 because I didn't see anything.

00:19:08.420 And that's exactly what he said in this interview

00:19:11.040 in People Magazine a while back.

00:19:13.200 He said, everybody was lovely.

00:19:16.980 I can't speak to other people's experiences,

00:19:19.600 but everybody was very professional and cool to me.

00:19:23.080 It was lovely and everybody was lovely.

00:19:26.140 And it is just as disillusioning for me

00:19:29.200 because I'm like, what happened?

00:19:31.280 Wait, what's going on?

00:19:33.780 Keep in mind that Hasan was actually in that bar scene.

00:19:38.740 You can see him standing very close to Justin and Jenny Slate

00:19:43.080 as in this scene,

00:19:44.680 they revealed that Jenny Slate was having a baby.

00:19:47.720 So he was there the entire time

00:19:50.700 and he didn't notice anything.

00:19:54.040 And this is the moment

00:19:55.640 that Blake Lively's team is pointing to

00:19:58.480 that there've been something

00:19:59.720 that got all the media to pick up

00:20:01.640 that I spoke about yesterday as well,

00:20:03.500 that in that moment,

00:20:05.600 Justin Baldoni was joking about missing SH training

00:20:09.220 and which I explained many times,

00:20:11.580 no one could hear what he was actually saying there.

00:20:14.000 And in Blake's own legal document,

00:20:16.600 she said that he actually said

00:20:18.280 that he missed the HR meeting,

00:20:21.500 which is very different than the SH training.

00:20:25.200 But that's what they decided to call the press.

00:20:27.280 As I said yesterday,

00:20:28.140 they want Justin to be associated with SH.

00:20:32.040 And that's why they told the press,

00:20:33.560 we know what he said in that moment.

00:20:35.340 And then when we hopefully,

00:20:37.260 at one point we'll hear the audio clearer,

00:20:39.820 which I think someone said the other day,

00:20:41.520 that Justin Baldoni is going to release the audio for that

00:20:45.480 because they were mic'd

00:20:46.720 so we can hear what he's actually saying.

00:20:48.980 So then we get to know if he joked

00:20:50.720 about missing the HR meeting,

00:20:53.180 which of course was really offensive

00:20:54.900 to everyone that was standing there,

00:20:56.600 except for Hassan,

00:20:57.580 who was standing in the middle of it

00:20:58.860 and didn't notice anything.

00:21:00.720 It's funny how all these Blake Lively supporters,

00:21:03.260 I saw Daily Mail did a story on it the other day,

00:21:06.620 and they said that people on Reddit were fuming

00:21:09.600 and saying that everyone on that set

00:21:12.260 was really upset and flustered

00:21:14.900 by the thing that was going on.

00:21:16.920 And then you're looking at the videotape

00:21:19.100 and you're like, no, no one's upset here.

00:21:21.100 And I think also Hassan is proof of that 1.00

00:21:23.840 because he said that everybody was lovely.

00:21:28.080 So this article that is from September of 2024

00:21:30.900 says that a source at the time told them

00:21:33.960 that all is not what it seems,

00:21:35.980 there's so much more to this story.

00:21:37.620 The principal cast and author Colin Hoover

00:21:40.260 will have nothing to do with Baldoni.

00:21:42.860 And remember what Brendan Sklenor said

00:21:45.060 at the time after Blake Lively had filed her lawsuit?

00:21:49.020 He said, vilifying the women 0.98

00:21:51.080 who put so much of their heart and soul

00:21:53.220 into making this film

00:21:54.180 because they believe so strongly in its message.

00:21:57.540 That's really funny looking back.

00:21:59.740 Seems counterproductive

00:22:01.300 and detracts from that what the film is about.

00:22:04.560 It is in fact the opposite of that point.

00:22:07.660 He wrote.

00:22:08.600 So he said that Blake Lively did such a great job

00:22:11.480 in pointing out what this movie is really about,

00:22:14.040 which was for her selling hair products and booze. 1.00

00:22:18.120 So yeah, as I said, I think it's really interesting

00:22:20.040 that Hassan actually came out and said,

00:22:22.560 it was so lovely.

00:22:23.460 I didn't notice anything.

00:22:24.940 Because if the set was as terrible

00:22:26.720 as Blake described it to be

00:22:28.780 and as Jenny Slate described it to be,

00:22:31.120 then why didn't he notice anything?

00:22:33.380 All right, you guys, that's it for me today.

00:22:35.240 I hope you enjoyed this episode

00:22:36.600 and I hope you're going to have a lovely weekend.

00:22:39.500 And hopefully we will know more next week about everything.

00:22:42.920 I feel there's new filings every day.

00:22:44.660 And even though we're not going to see

00:22:46.920 most of that evidence that was sealed

00:22:49.260 being unsealed until probably January next year,

00:22:53.180 we will continue to see more juicy stuff coming out.

00:22:56.500 I'm 100% certain of that.

00:22:58.100 So please stay tuned.

00:22:59.420 And thanks again for subscribing.

00:23:01.820 Thanks again for all your amazing feedback

00:23:03.880 and for all the tips you're sending me.

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00:23:13.360 Bye.

Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - November 22, 2025

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