Flaawsome Talk with Kjersti Flaa - May 10, 2026


THEY HAVE LOST IT !!


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00:00:00.000 This is the biggest sham in Hollywood history.
00:00:07.560 Hi and welcome to Flossom Talk. I'm Ashley Floor, journalist, Hollywood truth teller,
00:00:11.680 and your voice of reason in a town built on delusion. Oh my god, this is getting so much
00:00:18.140 worse. I am just in shock right now. So as you know, yesterday Blake Lively's team came out
00:00:24.580 with some statements that basically they're the winners here. And today, Justin Baldoni's attorney,
00:00:30.520 Brian Friedman, has responded. And after that, Blake's attorney, Sigrid McCauley,
00:00:36.900 came out to Entertainment Tonight. And Sigrid McCauley, Blake's attorney, came out to respond
00:00:43.640 again. She did an interview with Entertainment Tonight. This is just appalling. And it really
00:00:49.420 reminds me of the strategy of Goebbels. Remember the propaganda minister in Germany during the
00:00:55.000 Second World War? Yeah, that's where we're at right now. And before I go through all the
00:00:59.760 statements back and forth in this episode, I wanted to give a shout out to Jackie for sending
00:01:05.100 me this amazing funny thing. She said to me, why has no one alluded to the obvious pun in the
00:01:12.040 settlement statement. Lively deserves to be heard, as in Amber Heard. Thank you for that.
00:01:18.880 That really made my day. I think we have to look at what Blake is doing now with a sense of humor
00:01:24.440 because it is so ridiculous. Also, before we get into everything here, remember yesterday I spoke
00:01:29.720 about viral voices and how they should return their award to Justin Baldoni. I also think,
00:01:35.500 by the way, that WME, the agency, owes him an apology. So this is for you, WME. Those allegations
00:01:43.280 of SH against Justin Baldoni did not hold up to any standard in the legal system. So are you going
00:01:52.760 to take him back? Anyways, let's look into how Brian Friedman was responding to Blake Vile's
00:01:59.560 attorney's statement yesterday when they said this is a victory for her after 10 of her claims
00:02:04.680 were dismissed and after she dropped the last three. So Brian Friedman said this to TMZ.
00:02:11.720 Justin Baldoni's attorney, Blake Lively, was scared to take the stand. We all know that's true.
00:02:17.780 Friedman says part of the reason Blake said all this is because she was scared to take the witness
00:02:21.760 stand at trial. She did not want to face cross-examination by anyone because that would
00:02:28.040 require her to tell the truth. Also, he continued, Blake lied about telling Sony to destroy the
00:02:35.820 dailies. She lied that she had never told Colleen Hoover to unfollow Justin Baldoni. In her
00:02:42.180 deposition, Colleen said Blake asked her to unfollow him and there were more lies. He is
00:02:49.420 going there. I love this. And then they continue, Friedman then took aim at the outcome of the case
00:02:55.140 itself, adding, bottom line, Blake filed a claim for 300 million dollars and she ended up with
00:03:02.480 nothing. If this is a resounding victory, what does a defeat look like? Exactly, my question too.
00:03:10.820 And he closed with one final shot at Blake's public stance throughout the case, saying,
00:03:16.740 if she's doing this for survivors of SA and SH and retaliation, as she says,
00:03:22.780 then why don't you take the standard trial and prove it to be valid good question and he's and
00:03:29.440 he said that a trial would have exposed her lies and the entire smear she was talking about in her
00:03:35.620 interviews that she did so here comes the response from Blake Lively's team saying I guess he's no
00:03:41.260 longer ecstatic about the settlement that's all they had to say the thing is when lawyers are lack
00:03:47.720 of words they just shoot back and then they spin the truth and then they just avoid the question
00:03:53.340 and start talking about something else. She is going to court to get her lawyer's fees covered 0.73
00:03:58.160 and this is what Sigrid McCowley was talking about on Entertainment Tonight last night. This
00:04:06.200 is like the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in my life so be prepared. So she went on there to
00:04:13.740 talk about this victory. And the reason why I compared this to the minister of propaganda during
00:04:19.520 the Second World War in this intro is because Joseph Goebbels famously said, if you tell a lie
00:04:25.860 big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. And that is what
00:04:32.760 they're aiming for. She kept repeating in this interview the words false and fraudulent, calling
00:04:39.600 Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties countersuit false and fraudulent. False and fraudulent
00:04:45.360 defamation case that was brought against her. They falsely filed this defamation action against
00:04:50.420 her that allows survivors who've been falsely accused the abusers from weaponizing the legal
00:04:56.000 system. It has never been deemed false or fraudulent by any judge. So those are just words that she
00:05:02.960 came up with because she's paid by Blake Lively to say so. It's so manipulative, but here to me
00:05:09.580 is the worst part. Providing survivors with a path to be able to not be silenced, to allow
00:05:15.740 survivors in that moment to be able to fight back. She is talking about Blake Lively as a survivor.
00:05:23.060 What is a survivor? A survivor is a person who has managed to live through hardship, who has lived
00:05:29.940 through death-threatening moments in their lives, who have experienced deep, deep trauma,
00:05:36.680 who has survived illnesses like cancer. Those are survivors. What did Blake Lively survive?
00:05:44.660 She survived a hit movie. She survived a man saying that her onesie that she was wearing
00:05:51.920 was sexy. She survived her own smear campaign against herself. And she survived wearing
00:05:59.740 addressed with a really long train at the Met Gala.
00:06:02.840 Remember, this lawyer who's sitting here
00:06:05.200 putting Blake Lively in the same box as real survivors
00:06:08.760 also worked with Epstein victims.
00:06:11.440 And she goes on TV and calls Blake Lively a survivor.
00:06:14.500 Then she talks about how this is really not about anything else but punishment.
00:06:18.640 So this is not about justice for Blake Lively.
00:06:21.240 It's about punishing people.
00:06:22.780 And it provides three times the damages.
00:06:25.420 So it's really a punishment.
00:06:28.380 Punishment.
00:06:29.740 Yes, and then she's saying that Justi Baldoni and the Wayfair parties tried to silence her
00:06:34.560 with her defamation suit. Remember that Blake Lyley went to the New York Times,
00:06:38.660 a newspaper that everyone in the world has access to, a huge outreach, and she's the one who's
00:06:45.680 being silenced here. I mean, she hired an army of attorneys. At the end here, she has three big 0.99
00:06:53.020 firms working for her and her husband is a multi-millionaire worth 400 million dollars
00:07:00.180 and Sigri expect us to have any sympathy or empathy for Blake Lively because she's a survivor
00:07:07.520 and people try to silence her. No one tried to silence her. She went on Seth Meyers to talk about
00:07:14.940 this. She filed a lawsuit. How is that being silenced? And then Sigri keeps pushing on this
00:07:22.180 SH allegations. As you know, the judge already dismissed all of that. First of all, he said that
00:07:27.380 she couldn't claim this because she wasn't an employee, but he also pointed out how all of her
00:07:32.820 claims of SH did not hold up to the standards of legally being SH. But Sigrid is on a revenge
00:07:41.100 tour here, and they're really after Justin. She keeps mentioning Justin Baldoni over and over
00:07:47.080 again. And as you know, he's not a part of this lawsuit anymore. His company is, but Justin is
00:07:51.800 not. And this is one of my favorite parts because now she's asked about the legal fees, how much it
00:07:56.480 actually costs up to $600 million. And of course, a lot of those dollars have gone to Sigrid herself
00:08:03.340 and this is how she responds. Well, certainly any battle like this is expensive and that's why laws
00:08:09.540 like the law that is being passed in California that she's proceeding under are so important 0.96
00:08:14.580 because they try to stop the abusers from...
00:08:18.320 Yes, and she called Justin Baldoni an abuser now?
00:08:21.520 I mean, now he's an abuser?
00:08:23.500 This is a really strong word.
00:08:26.200 She sued him for harassment.
00:08:28.160 She never used that word, which Sigrid is now using, by the way.
00:08:32.480 And the legal costs that Justin Baldoni cost her by suing her back
00:08:38.140 is a fraction of all the costs that her lawsuit cost herself
00:08:43.360 and the Wayfair parties, just to put that out there.
00:08:46.720 Okay, and here comes another favorite part for me.
00:08:48.660 I know the editors of this segment had fun doing this.
00:08:52.700 And she knows that that's a privilege.
00:08:54.380 She knows that most people are not in a position to do that.
00:08:57.620 Blake, is it a heavy train?
00:09:00.060 Yeah, Blake, is the train heavy?
00:09:02.540 I guess that makes her a survivor as well.
00:09:04.720 She survived that long train,
00:09:07.420 thanks to seven men actually carrying it for her.
00:09:10.960 But I love how they went from,
00:09:12.100 she knows she's privileged here. Yes, most survivors don't have a train like that. And
00:09:18.360 here's another favorite part. So Sigrid is asked by this reporter if it was in any way strategic
00:09:23.360 for Blake to show up at the Met Gala. And she starts responding like this.
00:09:27.780 Saw Blake on the red carpet at the Met Gala. Was that a strategic move?
00:09:33.040 Well, Blake has always been focused on exposing the digital retaliation campaign here that was 0.99
00:09:38.420 weaponized against her yes she doesn't answer the question because she knows it was stupid but
00:09:44.600 anyways she continues about yeah she was always been focusing on the retaliation campaign was 0.92
00:09:49.460 she focused on that on that red carpet because another big question i have now is like is this
00:09:55.160 mayor campaign still going on because i keep reading in all the major media outlets that are 0.76
00:10:01.820 covering this that blake lively is a bully and a mean girl so who's paying for that blake yeah 0.86
00:10:08.240 And then she says he's moving on and not staying silent.
00:10:11.800 Well, I think Blake Lively has stayed pretty silent throughout this entire ordeal that she created.
00:10:17.940 She only posted a statement on her Instagram.
00:10:21.900 That's it.
00:10:22.460 That's how much she's spoken out about this.
00:10:24.340 And she went on Seth Meyers and said, oh, I've had my highest highs and my lowest lows this year.
00:10:29.120 And also I'm here for all women and girls around the world who's afraid to speak up.
00:10:34.160 That's all she's spoken up.
00:10:35.700 And she can do whatever she wants.
00:10:37.320 it's not that she's not allowed to talk about anything. Why isn't she out there speaking for
00:10:41.620 all survivors? Apparently, though, that is her new mission. So Sigrid can reveal what Blake Lively
00:10:48.020 is going to do from now on, which is to change the laws all over America so all the other men
00:10:55.980 that's being falsely accused of things like she accused Justin of will not be able to respond,
00:11:02.580 will not be able to defend themselves.
00:11:05.760 That is Blake Lively's new mission.
00:11:08.180 So watch out America and watch out Hollywood
00:11:11.020 because Blake Lively is on a mission.
00:11:14.660 I also find it interesting how she's gonna speak up now
00:11:17.640 because as you know, even in that New York Times article
00:11:20.060 when they published that, Blake Lively did not speak up.
00:11:23.240 There was a statement from her.
00:11:25.120 That's it.
00:11:25.940 That's all we've seen.
00:11:27.260 All she's done so far is speak through her lawyers
00:11:30.660 and Sigri had the audacity to call her brave and bold in this interview.
00:11:36.720 This is the biggest sham in Hollywood history.
00:11:40.140 Okay, so let's move on to Brian Friedman's response to this.
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00:13:31.100 Okay, so Brian Friedman also went on entertainment tonight, and he responded like this. 0.99
00:13:36.720 I think it's impossible for Miss Lively to take responsibility for any part of her actions.
00:13:44.220 And, you know, if one can't see themselves, and one can't honestly, realistically,
00:13:50.400 take a look at their part in things, it makes for a troubled existence.
00:13:54.940 Yes, thank you, Brian Friedman, again for speaking the truth here and helping the real victims.
00:14:00.400 Anyways, I also got this email from my insider who told me that, yes, this is exactly what we
00:14:06.960 predicted of what Blake Lively's team would do. And the person saying it was all another trick.
00:14:14.680 Remember, I spoke about that a few days ago before her lawyers came out. This person told me,
00:14:20.080 I'm sure they're going to try to do something like this.
00:14:23.360 Ryan Reynolds always has a trick up his sleeve.
00:14:26.200 And yes, that's exactly what happened.
00:14:28.900 The new lawyers must have sold her on this new scheme to make it sound like there was 1.00
00:14:33.320 still enough of an issue to sue while going into hyperdrive with her new PR blitz. 0.99
00:14:39.100 We suspected they could never just accept defeats and were always scheming to take advantage
00:14:43.960 of Justin's trust.
00:14:46.320 Yes, as you know, Blake actually hired another team of attorneys just before last weekend,
00:14:52.180 just before this settlement.
00:14:53.980 She hired another law firm and they probably helped her scheme and put this together.
00:15:00.140 And the person continues to say, it's so much worse now.
00:15:03.160 The crazy thing is that Justin really does believe that everyone deserves to be heard,
00:15:07.640 even if their claims are nonsense.
00:15:09.360 He doesn't actually want to silence anyone because his belief in truth winning is so strong.
00:15:16.620 The person also says just as everyone was praising Blake for finally coming to her senses and dropping the whole thing, 0.97
00:15:22.700 she does this idiotic thing and announces that she's going to keep going. 1.00
00:15:27.720 It's astonishing she would be this stupid. 1.00
00:15:31.180 Yes, this is epic level stupid as someone at Sony called it when she was promoting It Ends With Us. 1.00
00:15:36.040 She's back to epic level stupid. 1.00
00:15:37.560 it. Now people are saying that not only was she a victim of her own ego, but she might be truly 1.00
00:15:42.880 stupid in not realizing that she had a chance to repair her image. By continuing this foolish 1.00
00:15:48.740 charade, she's killed any goodwill that might have come her way. Remember, this is coming from a 0.99
00:15:54.640 person in the industry and who actually knows a lot of the people involved here personally. And
00:16:00.340 they also say people just wanted it to be over and now she's doing the single worst thing she 0.51
00:16:04.620 could do, prolonging this absurd story and clinging to the idea that she has to get a win
00:16:09.960 somehow, even if by trickery and bad faith. Yes, because that's exactly what she's doing now.
00:16:16.200 This is trickery. She is trying to manipulate the public again, and this time she is not going to 1.00
00:16:22.440 succeed. Okay, let's get to this article. The dirty laundry that dethroned Hollywood's golden
00:16:27.460 couple. This is from The Telegraph in the UK. The international press is being even harsher on Blake
00:16:33.520 than they are here in the U.S.
00:16:35.220 They're saying Blake Lively's legal war
00:16:38.340 with Justin Baldoni was meant to be a victory lap.
00:16:40.640 Instead, the fallout has made her
00:16:42.820 and Ryan Reynolds pariahs.
00:16:44.960 They are dragging Ryan Reynolds into this as well.
00:16:47.340 And they're saying about her Met Gala appearance,
00:16:49.660 they're saying Lively's appearance
00:16:50.900 may have been intended as a victory lap,
00:16:53.720 but she has little to celebrate. 0.99
00:16:55.760 The two-year-long legal battle
00:16:57.460 in which she accused her co-star of harassment,
00:17:00.160 SA, and orchestrating a smear campaign against her
00:17:02.900 has backfired spectacularly.
00:17:05.380 The final 11th hour settlement
00:17:07.100 in which no money is thought to have changed hands
00:17:11.280 is a conclusion that gives the whole sorry saga 0.56
00:17:15.160 the air of a mud-slinging competition. 0.99
00:17:18.260 It is notable that for the Met Gala on Monday night,
00:17:21.500 Lively attended alone.
00:17:23.040 These are the key moments,
00:17:24.820 both damning and just plain embarrassing,
00:17:27.140 that have dethroned one of Hollywood's foremost couples.
00:17:30.880 And here is another opinion from the Daily Mail saying why Blake Lively was desperate to settle.
00:17:36.420 How she and Ryan Reynolds wanted to destroy Justin Baldoni and his bombshell next move. 0.95
00:17:42.900 It's the dumbest act of self-sabotage I've seen in 30 years in showbiz. 0.98
00:17:49.540 Yes, me too. 0.98
00:17:50.840 So this is a long article and they're saying here, which is interesting,
00:17:54.100 that there will be a full sit-down interview to come of Justin Baldoni.
00:17:57.700 He's yet to decide in which outlets.
00:17:59.600 he then plans to write a book which will be at least in part about this extraordinary saga
00:18:04.840 which saw one of the most powerful women in Hollywood apparently hell-bent on destroying
00:18:09.700 somebody no one had much heard of before the film. So yes, Justin Baldoni is planning to write a book.
00:18:16.620 I can't wait for that to be the number one bestseller and maybe someone will make it into
00:18:21.360 a movie as well. Wouldn't that be a great ending to all of this? And here it says that during the
00:18:26.300 legal action, the actor, director, and producer moved with his wife, Emily, and their two young
00:18:29.980 children from California. And they're now based in Nashville, Tennessee. And they're saying here
00:18:35.240 that he really loves living there and that he will carry on working and he still has his film
00:18:41.040 studio. So we will definitely hear more from Baldoni. I'm so happy to hear that. And here,
00:18:46.440 they're even saying that the $60 million bill that everyone's been talking about is an
00:18:51.120 underestimate. They're saying here that I'm told that the sums involved are actually over 100
00:18:56.560 million dollars. Can you imagine what that could do for survivors? 100 million dollars? And here
00:19:04.440 they're guessing what Blake Lively will do. The expectation is that Blake will do an interview
00:19:08.740 in which will carefully talk about her charity work revolving around online behavior. She has
00:19:16.100 notably not mentioned the issue of SH since the judge ruling in April. Well, now her attorney
00:19:21.800 actually did that as I just reported on. But anyways, will people buy into a concern for
00:19:26.440 online niceties from the woman who notoriously snarked congratulations on your little bump
00:19:32.780 to a not pregnant journalist who offered congratulations to her? Time will tell.
00:19:39.240 And they continue to say, my source says everyone is ecstatic about the result this week,
00:19:44.100 but it's bittersweet she has put so many women and their children through the shredder for two
00:19:50.420 years because she couldn't handle that people don't like her that's all it amounted to she
00:19:56.780 couldn't bear that and here is another article from Variety so Sigrid McCauley is on a roll I
00:20:03.460 don't know if we want to hear more from her but I feel like I just need to point out some of the 0.84
00:20:07.660 things she's saying here again because this woman is doing so much harm to other women it says that 0.95
00:20:13.280 Blake Lively sees attorney fee motion as act of advocacy. This is about so much more to her,
00:20:20.240 says Sigrid McCauley. So the reason why she wants more money is because she wants to help other 0.97
00:20:26.140 victims. Try to make sense of that. Her lawyer Sigrid McCauley said Thursday that the motion 0.96
00:20:31.480 gives Lively a platform to advocate on behalf of those who face the threat of defamation suits for
00:20:37.580 speaking out. It allows her to pave the way here, McCallie told Variety. This is really a space
00:20:43.860 where she's been able to do some great good for survivors and she wants to continue that work.
00:20:48.980 This is about so much more to her. Yeah, we could see that when she was walking up the steps at the
00:20:54.140 Met Gala. This was so much more about everyone else but her. And then they continue, though any
00:20:59.820 fee award remains speculative, her side noted that Baldoni's lawyer had agreed to abide by
00:21:05.720 Lyman's ruling and will not appeal. It's a significant victory in that regard, McCowley
00:21:11.480 said. It positions her in a way where she can continue doing what she was trying to do,
00:21:16.900 which is to expose the significant retaliatory conduct of these parties. Yes, wouldn't it be
00:21:22.800 better for her to actually go to trial to prove that because then she could do it in the legal
00:21:27.060 system? Don't you think so, Sigrid? I mean, you are a lawyer too. It's so interesting to me how
00:21:32.280 Sigrid's pretending she doesn't understand the law here while she's doing these interviews as
00:21:36.900 a lawyer. And then Brian Friedman is responding here saying that this case started with her
00:21:43.420 seeking $300 million and seeking a SH claim against Justin Baldoni and the Wayfair parties
00:21:49.160 and Jamie Heath. On April 2nd, that was gone. That's when the victory happened. I'm not sure
00:21:55.300 what we're arguing about at this point. And then they talk about how Lake Lively's side here is
00:22:00.820 arguing that they should have these attorney's fees because they don't have enough money I guess
00:22:05.680 yeah and then again they talk about how this is so great for other survivors that like Lively is
00:22:11.120 doing this and then Sigrid's closing argument here is hold your horses this was a horrific
00:22:17.320 thing she had to live through and she's been so brave this is really the icing on the cake in so
00:22:25.220 many ways I don't exactly understand the icing of the cake and using that wording the icing of the
00:22:34.060 cake for a survivor yeah that just reminds me of another historical tone deaf quote let them eat
00:22:42.020 cake and then Brian actually gets the last word her saying that my assumption would be that Judge
00:22:46.460 Lyman has much more important things to do on the docket than holding an evidentiary hearing
00:22:52.000 and as I said this war is far from over so stay tuned also later today I will have one of Justin
00:23:00.360 Baldoni's friends here in the studio with me Adam is the one who played the gynecologist and it ends
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