Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - Ella Langley’s Hunting Backlash： Hunting, Conservation & The 2nd Amendment

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00:00:30.000 breaking news country girl does country things uh ella langley maybe some of you have followed

00:00:40.860 this story she is an alabama native she is a rising country star i would argue she is the

00:00:45.980 most popular certainly female country music player she is under fire because photos have

00:00:52.020 surfaced of her doing what a lot of country girls from alabama do hunting deer and posting with the

00:00:58.220 buck that she harvested. Critics are calling her disgusting. They're demanding that she be 0.95

00:01:04.100 canceled. Flashback to 2020. Actually, I guess that never really went away, did it? This whole

00:01:10.280 cancel culture thing. Some people are acting like they uncovered this deep, dark secret,

00:01:15.500 even though she posted the photos herself on her public Instagram account. Meanwhile,

00:01:22.980 Now, plenty of male country artists have built entire brands around hunting, and nobody bats an eye.

00:01:30.260 Today, I'm going to be joined by Gabriella Hoffman.

00:01:32.180 She is the director of the Center of Energy and Conservation at Independent Women's Forum.

00:01:36.580 She's actually an outdoor writer.

00:01:38.500 She's a podcaster. 1.00

00:01:39.680 She's a woman who hunts.

00:01:41.880 She's already publicly stood with Ella, of course, but she spent years making the case that hunters aren't the villains in the story.

00:01:50.040 They're the ones who are actually funding

00:01:51.400 and doing the real work of wildlife conservation.

00:01:55.020 We're going to talk about why this backlash

00:01:56.420 is so disconnected from reality,

00:01:58.200 what actually happens when people don't hunt,

00:01:59.920 how meat gets into the grocery store

00:02:01.540 and the state of the Second Amendment.

00:02:03.960 And I think this is really important,

00:02:05.740 why more hunters and gun owners

00:02:07.400 need to show up to the ballot box in November,

00:02:10.220 talking about the midterms

00:02:11.360 and every election from here on out.

00:02:15.300 Well, Gabriella, thank you for joining

00:02:16.840 the Riley Gaines Show.

00:02:18.040 can you just like shed some light on why these particular set of images from years ago mind you

00:02:24.820 that she posted herself triggered such an intense reaction from one hunting girl to another it's so

00:02:32.520 great to be on the program with you riley and to see all your success i remember when we first

00:02:37.120 overlapped when you were starting out with us at independent women and to see your rise has been

00:02:40.880 phenomenal so kudos to you and all the success you've had and it's crazy because i think the 0.64

00:02:46.180 reason why it generated such a visceral negative reaction for one i think women unfortunately can 1.00

00:02:51.740 be we can be our own worst enemies especially if someone like ella lingley who's beautiful 1.00

00:02:56.100 successful very independent doesn't really need to toe a certain line she's an independent you 0.95

00:03:01.620 know thinker and all that and because she goes hunting hunting also is controversial to some

00:03:06.420 people in the united states unfortunately still um i think that's largely why it triggered people

00:03:11.740 And mind you, it's not so much vegans or vegetarians opposing her for going hunting.

00:03:16.140 It's people who buy meat from the grocery store.

00:03:18.520 That's what I find very interesting and ironic with this.

00:03:21.600 In the case of Ella Langley, she did with hers.

00:03:23.920 And she's very strong and confident.

00:03:25.840 She doesn't just hunt for the grip and grin. 0.62

00:03:27.920 She hunts to eat and to cherish the meat that she harvests and make that connection, of

00:03:33.880 course, from food to table and not just simply get it for social media clicks and likes.

00:03:37.960 They like to fixate on someone like Ella Langley, whose star is certainly rising. 1.00

00:03:42.840 I mean, she has what the the longest single exceeding Mariah Carey for choosing Texas.

00:03:49.060 It's a very catchy song. So people want something to hate.

00:03:51.280 And they have fixated on her specifically her love of hunting. 0.99

00:03:55.160 You make a good point about it oftentimes being women and how women are our own worst enemy.

00:04:00.760 Of course, we've seen that throughout the gender ideology movement, maybe most obviously, but especially here. 0.97

00:04:07.960 When I think about men who hunt, especially country music singers that are male who hunt,

00:04:13.880 it doesn't seem to warrant this same sort of reaction. So I think that's a good point.

00:04:18.860 You talk about meat in the grocery stores. This is really good. A lot of people seem genuinely

00:04:25.440 shocked by the idea that meat doesn't just originate in the grocery store. When you know

00:04:32.160 how it does, you realize how humane hunting really is. Can you walk us through the basic

00:04:37.160 reality of how most meat actually gets in the grocery store versus how how hunting looks in

00:04:44.800 the harvesting process. This is not a knock on farmers and ranchers who are also conservationists

00:04:50.740 and play a very important role in feeding America. Most of the times you're getting meat that is

00:04:55.920 cited from a third party source. And we don't really have to go so much into the technical

00:04:59.600 weeds of this. But typically, the meat you're buying from the grocery store probably comes

00:05:03.240 from one of the four major producers who monopolize about 80% of the market share.

00:05:07.260 But there's also meat, beef, or chicken, or whatever your favorite protein that is not

00:05:11.500 wild game that you purchase.

00:05:13.400 You can also get it from an independent farmer or rancher, and we see actually more people

00:05:17.360 increasingly doing that as an option.

00:05:19.280 But the meat you're technically buying from the grocery store sometimes can be questionably

00:05:23.100 sourced.

00:05:23.580 It can be a farm, a very high industrial farm or ranching operation that might engage in

00:05:29.220 some questionable practices in terms of how they feed the chicken or how they feed the

00:05:32.900 cow.

00:05:33.240 Um, and so to, to quite, if we're piggybacking off of hunters who are organically sourcing

00:05:39.500 their meat, if you're having to compare the two and granted, like I said, this is not

00:05:42.620 all farming and ranching practices, but the industrial scale kind of super commercialized

00:05:46.340 operations that sell to the grocery stores, they may not be as organic or conservation

00:05:51.120 friendly as let's say you sourcing your food from, uh, from hunting or fishing and the like.

00:05:56.160 And so when you're organically sourcing something from the field, uh, you know, where it's come

00:06:00.900 from. You know, typically the age of the animal you're harvesting. You know this very well,

00:06:04.800 Riley, that oftentimes you can, you shouldn't be harvesting something very young, especially a

00:06:09.240 deer. You want to get a slightly mature deer, maybe one that's close to the end of its life.

00:06:14.300 But depending upon your preference, you know, you're not targeting young animals and you do

00:06:18.840 not want to target, you know, young bears, cubs, things that's unethical. You don't want to do

00:06:23.620 that. So you're going to know the age of the species. You're going to know if they're going

00:06:26.600 to have a condition, if they have chronic wasting disease, if they have some sort of other health

00:06:32.080 illness, maybe are they passing the Lyme's disease tick because deer are carriers of that with this

00:06:38.220 instance. So you're going to know the health of the animal that you're harvesting. And if you

00:06:41.200 notice a problem after you harvest it with the tags you legally procured, you purchased, and we'll

00:06:46.620 talk more about that conservation connection later, but you're going to know that the health

00:06:50.740 cycle largely of the animal, are you going to, you're going to know it's gender, you're going to

00:06:53.880 know, whether it's female or male, depending on the tag that you're using, because you're allotted

00:06:58.560 male tags or allotted female tags, doe tags with respect to deer or elk or any other kind of

00:07:04.560 cervid species that you're harvesting. So you're going to know the animal you're harvesting

00:07:08.780 from back to front. And there's not going to be any kind of confusion about how organic it is,

00:07:14.500 you're going to see the type of, you know, grasses it consumed. And so you're going to know very much

00:07:20.180 what you're getting into. It's the purest form of protein you will ever get. And you don't get

00:07:25.220 that at a grocery store. Yeah. You know, I could never be vegan or vegetarian just because of how

00:07:31.100 much meat I do consume, but you do see the Netflix documentaries or whatever it is where

00:07:35.880 the pigs are like jumping off the back of the truck that are being transported to the butcher

00:07:40.660 or the cows that are just treated horribly. They're in these, these small cages. They can't

00:07:46.020 move. They can't turn around. These pigs can't even sit down. They just exist to nurse their

00:07:50.540 young. I mean, it does make you question things when it comes to meat that you're buying in a

00:07:55.560 grocery store. And when you know that, and of course, comparing that to how deer in the wild

00:08:01.300 are hunted, harvested, then eaten, it does make you realize just how humane and beautiful it really

00:08:08.420 is. We've talked about kind of the conservation piece. You talk about farmers being conservationists,

00:08:14.400 But I want you to spend a second telling us about how hunters do more for wildlife conservation than the virtue signal signalers who are criticizing Ella Langley.

00:08:26.140 Can you expand on that and respond directly to the, you know, she's disgusting or she kills for fun framing and how hunters actually are conserving wildlife by engaging in this this art form, really?

00:08:39.180 An inconvenient truth to Ella Langley's critics and those who criticize hunting writ large

00:08:44.120 is that without hunters and actually gun owners into the mix, anyone who is purchasing a license,

00:08:49.220 purchasing firearms and ammunition, there would be no conservation funding at the behest of the

00:08:53.880 federal government. But there are two major conservation laws. There's one called Pittman

00:08:57.180 Robertson specifically for hunting. And then there's Dingle Johnson, which is for fishing

00:09:02.360 and boating. So a little history lesson. Hunters in the mid to late 19th century, so 1800s,

00:09:09.440 were hunting to extirpation. And our predecessors had to put a check on themselves because they were

00:09:14.460 hunting game, commonly known species that you see today in bountiful amounts, to extirpation or

00:09:20.900 extinction, more simply put, tax that you see the benefits from. It's unusual where a group called

00:09:27.820 the Tax Foundation said it's actually one of the best excise taxes, the well-executed one,

00:09:31.320 because you actually see the benefits from these user-generated pays go back to wildlife conservation,

00:09:36.780 habitat restoration, hunter's education, and more recently, target shooting ranges.

00:09:41.220 So gun owners pay the bulk of this.

00:09:44.020 So that's kind of Pittman-Robertson conservation funding in a nutshell.

00:09:46.740 And I see, Riley, more and more with each year, these progressive outlets admitting that there's no other law 0.51

00:09:52.100 that dominates or can replace the funding mechanisms that have been generated by gun owners and hunters.

00:09:57.120 So that's an amazing law.

00:09:58.360 it's not talked about very often, but as more people talk about it, we have to share the good

00:10:01.900 word about it. And that's what I try to do through the center and also my media work as well.

00:10:06.820 Yeah, that's so good. What would happen? I mean, just like theoretically speaking,

00:10:13.120 ecologically, economically, in terms of public safety, if hunting stopped altogether in the US?

00:10:21.960 I see hunting, we've talked about the benefits in terms of, you know,

00:10:25.700 cherishing your own food, which our freezer is filled with elk and deer and turkey and catfish

00:10:33.880 that we have caught and harvested ourselves. But I think it's a really great management tool as

00:10:41.000 well. I believe my county here in Tennessee, I saw a stat not too long ago that said that my county,

00:10:46.680 Sumner County, is one of the most populated counties, overpopulated counties in the entire

00:10:52.560 country with deer. Um, I don't think you could talk to someone in my County who hasn't totaled

00:10:56.980 their car by hitting a deer. And I am one of those people. It was horrible. It was like the

00:11:00.960 most sad thing ever, but we have an overabundance of deer here so much so that even after season

00:11:08.160 technically ends in Tennessee, um, there are ways to, to, you know, receive, um, a few extra days,

00:11:14.880 uh, at the end of season to go and kill doe because we have so many. Um, so what are some

00:11:20.480 of the, I guess, unintended, maybe intended consequences of hunting? And what would be

00:11:28.160 some of the problems if it stopped altogether in the US? I'll focus on deer because I think

00:11:32.440 a lot of us can relate to deer being in overabundance. And this is very true, even for

00:11:36.580 me next door in Virginia. And I live close to Washington DC and one of the counties bordering

00:11:40.260 it. And we have this problem on a perennial basis where if not enough deer are harvested,

00:11:44.700 it creates more human car collisions there's the also instance I'll talk more about Lyme's disease

00:11:51.300 actually in some of these other tick-borne illnesses that are actually worse without a

00:11:56.760 management system in place in a case study in Connecticut that has actually shown that hunting

00:11:59.920 has eliminated the instances of Lyme's disease but there are many ecological benefits and health

00:12:06.160 benefits to having deer managed so deer used to be in the late 1800s about 300,000 individuals

00:12:12.660 across the country. So that would seem like a small number back then. Today, the number is about

00:12:17.260 30 to 36 million. So you're right, it's absolutely an overabundance of deer. There are so many of

00:12:22.100 them. And sadly, you have to harvest more does because they're the ones with the power to

00:12:25.820 reproduce. And versus let's say hunting the male deer, the bucks, for instance, but the does are

00:12:33.000 the ones who control the power for reproduction. And if you're not managing them, they can be like

00:12:38.520 bucks where they just kind of wander and cause problems. So if you're not careful, yes, you can

00:12:43.700 collide into a deer. And granted, you could be the safest driver and this could still happen to you.

00:12:47.560 It's not an excuse of, you know, driving recklessly. And that's not what we want to encourage.

00:12:51.300 These deers are on like suicide missions. Yeah, they're very nonchalant. Managing deer

00:12:56.500 through hunting seasons allows you to have fewer car deer collisions. More specifically to health,

00:13:02.640 If your state has high instances of Lyme's disease, deer are carriers of deer tick, which

00:13:08.500 pass on Lyme's disease.

00:13:09.520 It's a horrible, debilitating, chronic illness.

00:13:11.820 I'm not a doctor.

00:13:12.480 I'm not pretending to be.

00:13:13.280 I'm not offering medical advice.

00:13:14.620 But there have been different scientific studies have shown in places like Connecticut, where

00:13:18.440 Lyme's disease has originated, that they saw a 70% plus decrease in Lyme's cases because

00:13:24.760 there was hunting in effect.

00:13:26.260 In a place like Connecticut, which used to historically be welcoming to hunting, but

00:13:29.180 it's not so much.

00:13:29.860 it's a little harder to do that, although they still allow it, but it's not so friendly to

00:13:33.220 hunting like a Tennessee or Virginia would be. But you see even anecdotally and even scientifically

00:13:38.420 in states where certain hunting practices are in place, you do see a reduction of certain

00:13:43.540 tick-borne illnesses. But if not enough deer are harvested during that time, what my county will do

00:13:49.460 is hire sharpshooters at the expense of taxpayers to manage leftover deer instead of letting hunters

00:13:55.060 do that either through archery or firearms or the likes. So sharpshooters are managing deer.

00:13:59.860 after firearm season or you know hunting season and people have to question like do you want your

00:14:05.700 taxpayer dollars going to that what about the meat is it going to be um reciprocary is it going to be

00:14:10.660 sent to hunters for the hungry hunters for the hungry um you know is it going towards those type

00:14:15.620 of efforts so hunters should be tasked with doing this and you're going to save a lot of money people

00:14:20.580 happily buy another 30 tag whatever it costs um to help take out this excess number if you have a

00:14:26.260 a deer population in excess but no sometimes people will prefer environmentalists will prefer

00:14:30.320 that sharpshooters do this versus hunters which is crazy to me that that is logical in their minds

00:14:35.600 when a hunter will do it for far less they're going to use that meat and the deer population

00:14:40.440 is not going to taper off or decrease as a result because they have a quota they'll tell you how many

00:14:44.700 deer have to be managed in more sensitive areas and you know it's following the science it's

00:14:49.060 following the wildlife science so there are many innumerable benefits to this and we have to

00:14:53.120 continue this or else there's going to be increased human wildlife collisions or conflicts. And we

00:14:59.040 see this in other parts of the country that have to deal with grizzly bears that have recovered or

00:15:02.620 wolves that have recovered. And it creates distrust in those communities and it invites people to

00:15:07.380 dislike those animals in question. So if you don't have some management system in place, even for more

00:15:11.320 controversial apex predators, it's going to make people dislike the species in question. And we

00:15:15.980 don't want that. We don't want people to act out on their own, to violate laws and to harm a

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00:19:30.920 works um and kind of the background there why do you think it's important specifically for women 1.00

00:19:35.660 to own guns. Absolutely. Everyone benefits from owning firearms and believing in the Second 1.00

00:19:41.140 Amendment, exercising their Second Amendment rights. And hunting is not guaranteed by the

00:19:45.220 Second Amendment. But conservation funding is connected through the Second Amendment by gun

00:19:50.300 and ammo purchases. I talked about this at my speech at the Second Amendment Foundation's

00:19:54.640 Gun Rights Policy Conference recently. And the reason why women should be doing this, it's 1.00

00:19:59.480 manifold. The benefits are manifold for protection reasons. You and I are both on the petite side. 1.00

00:20:04.580 I'm a short petite woman and a gun can be a great equalizer in the event as a last resort,

00:20:09.600 I am attacked personally. My life is under threat. I don't have any tool besides a gun to help defend

00:20:14.760 me. And that's something that you would use as a last resort item. People think that, okay,

00:20:18.960 you own a gun, you're going to go on a killing spree. That is not what happens. Nobody wants to

00:20:23.280 take a firing shot that could lethally harm someone unless your life is under threat. That's

00:20:28.280 what a lot of people misunderstand. But actually a study that came out from Georgetown University

00:20:32.840 recently found that about 45% of gun owners are women now, which is incredible. It's wonderful.

00:20:39.480 Spanning all the time. I thought. Yes. And actually within five years, it's increased a

00:20:43.440 couple of percentage points. It used to be about 40, 41. Now it's close to 50%, you know, 45% is

00:20:47.980 pretty notable. Um, and, and this is because women living in the bigger cities, um, have seen crime 0.99

00:20:53.540 go up. Um, overall crime is starting to go down thankfully, because we have different people in 0.99

00:20:57.560 charge of the federal government, state governments, localities, but in the blue cities, I hate to

00:21:02.100 politicizes in major cities, it is still very unsafe with higher instances of crime. Or you

00:21:07.140 see certain politicians letting out people with rap sheets involving crimes using guns, and then

00:21:12.620 penalizing law abiding gun owners. So women, much like any other group out there, even African 0.95

00:21:17.700 Americans are buying guns, more Hispanics, people of all different stripes and political 0.86

00:21:22.220 orientations, even people on the left are buying guns, because they're like, the government can go 0.63

00:21:25.620 after me, I need to protect myself. This is how I'm going to do it. And hopefully they don't do

00:21:30.200 it to, you know, fight crime themselves. But you do it for self-preservation and not to target your

00:21:36.160 political opponents. Nobody wants that. That's a horrible precedence to set if you're just buying

00:21:40.680 guns to commit crimes or to get revenge on someone. That's not what the Second Amendment

00:21:45.400 guarantees. And so women, you know, they maybe had a personal incident. You know, a lot of women 1.00

00:21:51.000 who previously were victims of domestic violence are actually buying guns now because they realize

00:21:55.340 the justice system doesn't work in their favor if the rapist is being let out early by certain

00:22:00.620 prosecutors and other lawmakers. So women want to take their safety into their own hands. And 1.00

00:22:06.580 you don't have to be a survivor of domestic violence either. But I want to point out the

00:22:10.920 fact that those women feel like they've been wronged by the justice system. So they have to 1.00

00:22:14.840 protect themselves. And owning a gun does that. But that's not the only type of woman that does

00:22:19.240 this. It could be someone who was maybe viscerally against firearms. It could be someone who grew up 1.00

00:22:23.360 with firearms. Women are responsible enough to determine whether or not they want to have a 1.00

00:22:28.640 firearm in their house. And I'm very pleased to see that more women are choosing to do that 1.00

00:22:32.580 for self-preservation reasons. And even, you know, in rural areas, unfortunately, it's not safe. You 0.95

00:22:37.100 can never, you don't have this expectation that it's going to be safe, that you can always lock

00:22:40.240 your house door because you start to see crime go into more rural areas too, which is very

00:22:44.540 unfortunate that that's where we are as a society. But that doesn't negate the fact that in the hands

00:22:49.840 of law-abiding people, and most Americans are very law-abiding, and sometimes, you know, civilian

00:22:55.240 firearms owners can be better and more safe with their firearms than even law enforcement. There's

00:22:59.880 even studies that show that concealed carry holder, permit holders are more law-abiding than even some

00:23:05.060 in law enforcement by a slight percentage more, a couple percentage points. So we can trust our

00:23:10.360 people who train, who are responsible, know the safety rules, and know what they're getting into

00:23:15.220 with the purchase of a firearm. That's a thing you want to use, as I said, as a last resort item. You

00:23:19.320 do not want to have to, nobody wants to, they dread using that. I don't want to ever have to

00:23:22.900 use my firearms unless my life is being threatened. I like going to the shooting ring. That doesn't

00:23:27.520 mean I'm going to harm people. I want to, you know, polish my craft and make sure that I know

00:23:32.420 my target, what's in front of it, what's behind it. And it's very fun. There's nothing wrong with

00:23:36.460 enjoying target shooting because other countries around the world, I can't think, Riley, of any

00:23:41.460 example of another country where there is a second amendment that is enshrined in their respective

00:23:45.000 constitutions. My family, as you know, fled the former Soviet Union from a country called

00:23:49.000 Lithuania that is actually one of the few pro-gun-owning countries in Europe and even the 0.95

00:23:53.800 world because they have an aggressor in Russia in their backyard, but also the people there

00:23:57.660 remember their history. My family members, my grandpa was in a gulag for 18 months and there

00:24:02.540 were a lot of people in resistance movements, not necessarily my family, but people that my family

00:24:07.780 knew who had firearms underground, you know, to resist the communists and even the Nazis too,

00:24:13.760 before that. There were lots of people in these dual-occupied areas, first the Soviets, then the

00:24:18.780 Nazis, then back to Soviets for 50-plus years, who would have firearms for protection purposes,

00:24:25.020 and they were not able to repel the people who came to first occupy. But that culture is now 0.79

00:24:31.900 very evident in Eastern Europe. You look anywhere in Eastern Europe, Czech Republic, Lithuania,

00:24:36.260 the Baltics, Poland, including, they want to have guns for personal defense uses because

00:24:41.800 because what if an invading country comes in and we see that happening in ukraine that's an aside

00:24:46.260 but um as a culture they remember what nazis and communists did occupying their countries

00:24:52.060 stripping people of their gun rights um enacting all these different control measures and restricting

00:24:57.900 their freedoms as a result so people in those countries even though they have to go through

00:25:01.360 hurdles more than we do in america they have to have a license to own a gun they have to do

00:25:05.220 you know annual testing and and some people say well in america we need to do this too it's like

00:25:09.540 we can train without having to pay all this money to, to, you know, exercise our rights.

00:25:15.500 And we don't have to. And in court cases have said, you shouldn't be paying a poll tax

00:25:18.580 to exercise your right, uh, to prove your competence competency, uh, for, for being

00:25:23.520 a law abiding gun owner, but they have to go through so many hoops in Europe. You have to

00:25:26.680 be a registered, you know, gun owner. You have to belong to a club. We don't have to do that in the

00:25:31.540 United States, thankfully. And people from other countries, I've taken people from Europe shooting 0.99

00:25:35.460 and they're like this is blowing my mind how much you freedom you guys have and everyone's safe

00:25:40.220 that's my husband who came from england of course which is is you know relatively westernized although

00:25:46.060 it's changing a lot um he says hunting over there is for like the super elite it's like a like a

00:25:52.340 country club type thing like it's of course i mean even their police force they're they're um they

00:25:58.320 don't have guns they have like batons yeah um so when he came over to the u.s he's like wait this

00:26:04.580 is amazing. And now, um, I don't even know how many guns we have in the house. So, um, I agree

00:26:11.080 with you and I would encourage every woman to, to own a gun, to know how to use a gun, to feel

00:26:15.960 comfortable around guns, to get your, your concealed carry, even in places that allow for

00:26:20.040 constitutional carry, still get your concealed carry, um, all fantastic things. And one more

00:26:25.740 point to make here before wrapping, there's consistent data that shows millions of hunters

00:26:30.580 and gun owners aren't, or I guess they're either unregistered or they're low propensity

00:26:36.880 voters. I think this is, it's often cited around 10 million unregistered hunters and gun owners. So

00:26:43.160 get out and vote. I'm not going to tell you who to vote for, of course, but if you value the

00:26:48.180 second amendment, get out and vote. Last thing for you, dream hunt. What are you hunting? Where

00:26:54.640 are you going? Ooh, that's a great question. I think I would like to do Red Stag in Europe

00:27:01.180 somewhere, maybe Lithuania, because they have a lot of hunting opportunities and that would be

00:27:05.600 kind of a full circle moment. You know, my parents' homeland, do it there. I think that's

00:27:09.960 where it'd be or anywhere in Europe, but Red Stag is on my list. Oh, I love that. I love that. Well,

00:27:14.440 Gabriella, thank you for joining, breaking all this down and making it make sense to the people

00:27:18.700 who think Ella Langley is disgusting. You're the best. Thank you, Riley. Such a pleasure to talk to

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Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - October 16, 2026

Ella Langley’s Hunting Backlash： Hunting, Conservation & The 2nd Amendment

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