Gaines for Girls with Riley Gaines - June 04, 2025


Truth vs. Trend： Protecting Girls in the Age of Identity Politics


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In this episode of the Gains For Girls podcast, host Sarah Abdurrahman talks about her new home studio, why she's excited about it, and why she thinks it's the perfect place for her to record the show.

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00:04:49.600 Today's episode, truthfully,
00:04:51.020 I'm so tired of talking about this subject.
00:04:54.280 The subject that gave me the platform that I have now,
00:04:57.560 the issue of men in women's sports.
00:05:00.480 This past week was really a dream
00:05:02.900 for the women-hating Democratic Party.
00:05:05.420 In five blue states, five of them,
00:05:09.260 we had boys steal.
00:05:11.700 I'm not going to say win.
00:05:12.640 I'm going to say steal
00:05:13.440 because these boys stole either state championship spots,
00:05:17.380 they stole state qualifying spots,
00:05:19.200 or podium spots from rightful, deserving girls. 0.98
00:05:22.640 This happened in Minnesota.
00:05:24.280 It happened in Washington.
00:05:25.400 It happened in California, Oregon, and Maine.
00:05:28.780 The usual suspects.
00:05:31.020 Last week, we had Sonia Shaw on. 0.59
00:05:33.600 She's a school board member in California,
00:05:35.160 and we talked about A.B. Hernandez, right?
00:05:37.940 This is a man who just this past week,
00:05:39.940 or a boy, I shall say, he's in high school,
00:05:42.120 a boy who won several state titles,
00:05:45.820 triple jump, long jump, high jump,
00:05:48.400 in girls' track and field.
00:05:51.580 We talked about with Sonia Shaw,
00:05:53.640 actually his mother,
00:05:54.980 how the mother had sent a cease and desist
00:05:57.260 to anyone really who was willing to talk about this,
00:06:00.240 who was willing to oppose Hernandez's participation
00:06:03.280 in the women's category.
00:06:05.280 Really tragic stuff.
00:06:06.480 I've talked to some of those girls 1.00
00:06:07.580 following the state championship,
00:06:09.840 really how they feel betrayed by CIF,
00:06:13.440 by people like Gavin Newsom, right?
00:06:15.540 The governor of their state
00:06:17.120 who continues to sit on the fence
00:06:18.960 regardless of whatever the political,
00:06:21.240 or even a political issue, for that matter,
00:06:24.140 is, sits on the fence
00:06:25.720 and continues to wink at both sides.
00:06:27.840 Breaks my heart for these girls. 0.69
00:06:28.960 We are talking to someone today.
00:06:30.800 Her name is Julie Hamill.
00:06:32.320 Maybe you saw this clip of her
00:06:34.620 that went viral over the past week.
00:06:36.400 Of her on CNN, she's an attorney.
00:06:38.280 She's a brilliant attorney, by the way. 0.57
00:06:39.940 I think she served as a legal clerk
00:06:41.460 in the U.S. Department of Justice's office
00:06:44.680 for victims of overseas terrorism,
00:06:47.340 which is incredible.
00:06:48.720 She's the president of California Justice Center.
00:06:51.420 She critiques California's radical gender identity politics,
00:06:56.540 and I think especially, as of recently,
00:06:59.540 has had major conflict with their federal Title IX protections
00:07:03.420 and how they interpret this federal law.
00:07:06.860 She's a school board member.
00:07:08.120 She's a mom.
00:07:09.200 But anyways, this video went viral of her.
00:07:11.260 We're going to play it later,
00:07:12.100 so I'm not going to get into it now,
00:07:13.300 but very excited for this conversation.
00:07:15.180 Again, thank you guys for tuning in.
00:07:16.860 Make sure you're watching this episode
00:07:18.420 if you want to see the home studio interview
00:07:20.680 with Julie Hamill here.
00:07:23.140 Well, Julie, thank you for joining
00:07:25.040 the Gains for Girls podcast.
00:07:26.860 I gave a little intro prior to you joining
00:07:29.740 about, of course, the state of California,
00:07:32.900 what we've seen over these past few years,
00:07:34.820 what the nation has really been able to see
00:07:37.040 over the past few weeks surrounding A.B. Hernandez.
00:07:40.940 President Trump, of course, he tweeted in true Trump fashion.
00:07:44.540 You know, he's using all caps.
00:07:45.680 It's in, like, the middle of the night,
00:07:47.280 early morning, like he does.
00:07:48.740 But just perfectly stated, look, you know,
00:07:52.780 Title IX is in effect.
00:07:54.040 It is federal law.
00:07:54.960 Those who ignore federal law will lose federal funding,
00:07:57.820 or at least we will take every step,
00:07:59.660 every measure that we have to take as president,
00:08:02.960 as, you know, chief executor,
00:08:04.960 to make sure this doesn't continue to happen
00:08:07.200 to girls across the nation.
00:08:09.020 So fantastic stuff.
00:08:10.320 But you, over the past week or so,
00:08:13.520 really had this viral interaction on CNN.
00:08:16.900 We've got the clip.
00:08:18.580 Let's play it really briefly.
00:08:20.340 What would make this fair for her to compete
00:08:24.800 for those who are competing against her?
00:08:27.260 What would that kind of structure in competition look like?
00:08:34.660 Who is her? 0.99
00:08:36.600 A.B.
00:08:37.120 A.B.
00:08:39.840 Okay.
00:08:40.680 A.B. Hernandez is a male who identifies as a female.
00:08:43.700 What would be fair is to have Hernandez competing
00:08:47.920 in the male category.
00:08:49.400 It is not fair to the females competing 0.99
00:08:51.680 to have to compete with a male. 0.97
00:08:55.420 Okay.
00:08:56.160 So in Trump's federal funding threat,
00:08:58.680 is that something, though,
00:09:00.500 that would hurt all student athletes,
00:09:02.380 including athletes who are assigned female at birth?
00:09:06.380 Would his federal funding threat hurt athletes?
00:09:13.840 If the money is taken away.
00:09:18.080 Right.
00:09:19.140 So the law actually says that schools
00:09:22.540 that do not abide Title IX or other federal laws
00:09:26.020 cannot receive federal funds.
00:09:28.560 So that's not Trump's fault.
00:09:30.160 It was so perfect.
00:09:31.560 Number one, your facials,
00:09:32.680 they're just, like, incredible.
00:09:33.860 And it really perfectly shows on display
00:09:38.020 the way that so many Americans,
00:09:40.700 even so many Californians,
00:09:42.420 think about this issue.
00:09:43.820 I think of people like my grandma.
00:09:45.620 Like, she has a really hard time 0.93
00:09:47.180 even reading, you know,
00:09:48.620 articles from conservative outlets
00:09:50.360 when they're using preferred pronouns,
00:09:54.000 what I would describe as actually misgendering people
00:09:57.440 like A.B.
00:09:58.040 Hernandez,
00:09:58.880 and using her.
00:10:00.240 Or even the verbiage of trans woman.
00:10:02.180 Like, my grandparents can't comprehend
00:10:03.740 what that even means.
00:10:05.300 So it was just so perfect.
00:10:07.420 And you had so much attention.
00:10:08.940 And I'm so glad that you did.
00:10:11.280 What's been your response this past week or so?
00:10:14.360 Well, first of all,
00:10:15.440 I think,
00:10:16.080 and thank you for having me on your show,
00:10:17.400 by the way.
00:10:19.060 I'm just,
00:10:19.980 I'm a little bit shocked
00:10:21.280 that the things I said on CNN
00:10:23.900 have gone viral
00:10:25.100 because I didn't say anything
00:10:26.700 groundbreaking.
00:10:28.140 I just spoke the simple truth
00:10:30.360 and I listened to the questions
00:10:32.740 that the anchor asked me
00:10:34.280 and I responded very carefully.
00:10:36.980 And I really,
00:10:37.760 I don't think that
00:10:39.760 that was such a unique, special thing
00:10:43.120 that it needed to go viral.
00:10:44.320 And the fact that it did
00:10:45.540 tells me our society
00:10:46.740 is in a really bad and dangerous place
00:10:48.900 because people are longing for truth.
00:10:51.180 They want to hear truth.
00:10:52.980 They want authenticity
00:10:54.500 and they're being fed 0.88
00:10:56.140 so much nonsense. 0.78
00:10:57.840 And everybody knows
00:10:59.720 that a girl cannot become a boy. 0.99
00:11:02.120 A boy cannot become a girl. 1.00
00:11:04.180 This issue of males in female sports
00:11:06.920 is very simple.
00:11:08.700 We're falling all over ourselves
00:11:10.200 to create new categories,
00:11:12.100 do X, Y, Z,
00:11:13.060 to respect people's feelings.
00:11:14.760 But the simple truth is
00:11:16.140 there are boys
00:11:16.800 and there are girls.
00:11:17.800 There are separate categories
00:11:19.340 for these athletes to compete in.
00:11:21.260 And there has been
00:11:22.780 since at least 1972.
00:11:24.820 We're not going to eradicate girls' sports. 0.99
00:11:27.780 We're not going to eliminate Title IX.
00:11:29.920 Stop falling all over yourselves
00:11:31.460 to try to please one particular person
00:11:35.600 or to be concerned
00:11:36.940 about one particular person's feelings.
00:11:39.320 While you're doing that,
00:11:40.620 you are throwing out
00:11:41.560 the entirety of girls' sports.
00:11:45.340 It's so true. 0.84
00:11:47.000 And you're right.
00:11:48.020 The fact that this is viral,
00:11:49.420 maybe in 2021, 2022,
00:11:53.160 I think we could have expected this,
00:11:54.640 but even still in the year 2025,
00:11:58.040 the way this interaction
00:11:59.920 got the traction that it did,
00:12:02.060 you're right.
00:12:02.400 It shows you that people really
00:12:03.760 are still desperate for the truth.
00:12:06.160 People are still scared
00:12:07.080 to speak the truth.
00:12:08.220 And not just anchors on CNN
00:12:09.900 or MSNBC 0.85
00:12:10.900 or Democratic elected officials.
00:12:13.720 Even still,
00:12:14.620 your everyday person
00:12:15.900 who intuitively knows
00:12:17.940 that men and women are different,
00:12:19.440 they're still scared
00:12:20.220 to kind of toe that line.
00:12:22.360 They feel like they have to walk
00:12:23.720 on eggshells
00:12:24.360 when talking about this.
00:12:25.860 But I think that interaction,
00:12:27.920 it gave so many people
00:12:29.320 courage, right,
00:12:30.920 to know it's okay to say that.
00:12:33.300 So it was just perfect.
00:12:34.820 And again,
00:12:35.080 the facials I loved.
00:12:36.900 We've got another clip
00:12:38.000 following this discussion
00:12:41.260 you guys had
00:12:42.200 surrounding the anchor saying,
00:12:44.640 look,
00:12:45.160 you know,
00:12:45.420 not everyone agrees with you.
00:12:47.100 So just to be clear,
00:12:47.960 not everyone agrees with you
00:12:49.140 on how you're viewing it.
00:12:50.320 So in that regard,
00:12:51.700 if you were to take away
00:12:53.380 the funding
00:12:54.060 as it pertains
00:12:56.940 to trans athletes,
00:12:58.180 not everyone agrees with you.
00:12:59.620 I think we just have
00:13:00.500 to be clear about that.
00:13:02.100 If you are taking away
00:13:03.760 the funds
00:13:05.040 for athletes,
00:13:07.740 student athletes in California,
00:13:09.040 isn't that going to hurt
00:13:10.380 all of them?
00:13:13.680 Taking away federal funds
00:13:15.160 is going to hurt
00:13:15.820 all California kids,
00:13:17.300 which is why
00:13:17.900 the state of California
00:13:18.860 needs to comply
00:13:19.740 with federal law.
00:13:20.760 It's very simple.
00:13:22.680 Of course,
00:13:23.520 not everyone agrees with you
00:13:25.220 as with any political
00:13:26.440 or a political issue
00:13:27.780 for that matter.
00:13:28.560 Joe Biden definitely
00:13:29.380 did not agree with you
00:13:30.900 or Title IX
00:13:32.180 as it was originally implemented.
00:13:34.560 You're right back in 1972.
00:13:36.060 But to say this is
00:13:37.540 a polarizing issue
00:13:39.440 amongst the general public,
00:13:41.400 I mean,
00:13:41.680 to me,
00:13:41.960 that just feels dishonest.
00:13:44.560 What do you see
00:13:45.300 when you're talking
00:13:46.080 to families
00:13:46.660 across the state
00:13:47.360 of California
00:13:48.040 or really anywhere else
00:13:49.400 globally for that matter?
00:13:52.080 What's been really interesting
00:13:53.380 is,
00:13:54.900 well,
00:13:55.060 right after that interview,
00:13:56.340 I shut off my social media
00:13:57.760 because I expected
00:13:58.900 an onslaught of hatred.
00:14:00.320 I was really expecting
00:14:01.720 to get berated
00:14:02.760 and called names
00:14:04.000 and attacked.
00:14:05.020 I got maybe
00:14:06.260 five negative emails
00:14:07.940 and a couple of phone calls,
00:14:09.140 but I have gotten
00:14:10.200 hundreds upon hundreds
00:14:11.960 upon hundreds,
00:14:12.720 maybe thousands
00:14:13.420 of emails
00:14:14.400 from people
00:14:15.040 all across the country
00:14:16.220 from all walks of life,
00:14:18.160 from all different
00:14:18.900 political persuasions
00:14:20.060 thanking me
00:14:21.040 because they've been
00:14:22.340 wanting to hear this.
00:14:24.340 And on CNN,
00:14:25.320 they don't hear it on CNN.
00:14:28.440 It's
00:14:29.000 this whole thing
00:14:31.600 about,
00:14:32.300 you know,
00:14:32.580 not everybody agrees
00:14:33.920 with respect to Title IX.
00:14:35.600 I don't know
00:14:35.880 if you've read the statute.
00:14:37.020 It's pretty dang simple.
00:14:38.840 It's very short
00:14:39.760 and sweet.
00:14:40.320 The concept
00:14:41.640 is equality
00:14:42.940 for girls and women
00:14:44.240 in educational programs,
00:14:46.180 including sports.
00:14:47.940 And so this idea
00:14:49.260 that people believe
00:14:52.060 that Title IX
00:14:52.880 allows males
00:14:53.960 into female sports
00:14:55.780 and female programs, 0.98
00:14:57.540 female athletic
00:14:58.340 or academic programs
00:14:59.660 under Title IX
00:15:00.560 is just so blatantly absurd
00:15:03.760 on its face.
00:15:05.400 and we've had
00:15:05.880 multiple federal courts
00:15:07.460 in the United States
00:15:08.660 say that specifically.
00:15:10.280 When Biden tried
00:15:11.440 to create
00:15:11.900 that Title IX regulation
00:15:13.200 that changed sex 0.98
00:15:14.940 to gender identity
00:15:16.080 to allow males
00:15:17.340 into all these
00:15:18.060 female spaces, 1.00
00:15:19.500 multiple United States
00:15:20.860 district courts
00:15:21.840 said that subverts
00:15:23.640 the purpose
00:15:24.320 of Title IX.
00:15:25.480 That flies in the face 0.51
00:15:26.820 of the plain language
00:15:28.100 of the statute.
00:15:29.420 You cannot do that
00:15:30.720 and therefore
00:15:31.240 they vacated
00:15:32.200 those Title IX regs.
00:15:33.640 We have in California
00:15:35.180 a state law
00:15:36.060 Education Code
00:15:36.900 221.5F
00:15:38.300 which does exactly
00:15:39.600 what those
00:15:40.460 Biden regulations
00:15:41.520 would have done
00:15:42.120 to the country.
00:15:43.280 That's what we need
00:15:44.020 to get rid of.
00:15:45.440 That is what is
00:15:46.180 the crux of the problem
00:15:47.520 here in California
00:15:48.320 and in some other states.
00:15:50.120 And unfortunately,
00:15:51.120 we have spineless people
00:15:53.260 in our legislature.
00:15:54.540 We have a spineless governor.
00:15:55.860 And so they're not
00:15:57.620 going to voluntarily
00:15:58.620 rescind the law
00:15:59.720 or stop enforcing it
00:16:00.920 and the United States
00:16:01.680 Department of Justice
00:16:02.540 is going to have
00:16:03.800 to step in.
00:16:05.280 That's right.
00:16:06.060 Of the 26 states
00:16:08.220 attorneys general
00:16:09.020 that ended up suing
00:16:10.200 over Joe Biden's
00:16:11.820 illegal and administrative
00:16:13.340 rewrite of Title IX,
00:16:14.740 all 26 states prevailed
00:16:16.980 and at least,
00:16:18.120 of course,
00:16:18.660 under his administration
00:16:19.520 were temporarily successful.
00:16:21.920 Most,
00:16:22.600 all states were granted
00:16:23.440 preliminary injunctions
00:16:24.620 to where they did not
00:16:25.400 have to adhere to this
00:16:26.360 because you're right,
00:16:27.300 it was a total violation
00:16:28.580 of how Title IX
00:16:30.320 was originally,
00:16:31.740 and again,
00:16:32.140 very brief.
00:16:32.760 It's like 37 words,
00:16:34.120 super short,
00:16:34.700 super easy to understand,
00:16:36.520 total violation
00:16:37.600 of how it was
00:16:38.180 originally written
00:16:38.880 and intended.
00:16:40.160 And we even saw
00:16:40.820 just this past week
00:16:41.680 where Secretary McMahon,
00:16:43.080 of course,
00:16:43.380 at the Department of Education
00:16:44.440 declared that June
00:16:46.660 is recognized
00:16:47.520 as Title IX month.
00:16:49.440 This month will be
00:16:50.220 the 53rd anniversary
00:16:51.640 of Title IX.
00:16:53.100 This is a stark
00:16:54.240 contrast to,
00:16:55.520 of course,
00:16:55.860 June being recognized
00:16:56.960 as Pride Month 0.89
00:16:58.140 as it was
00:16:58.800 by every agency,
00:17:00.160 every department
00:17:00.780 under the previous
00:17:01.940 administration.
00:17:03.600 One more video
00:17:04.460 to show you
00:17:05.320 from this same interview.
00:17:07.400 There are obviously
00:17:08.320 clear benefits
00:17:09.260 to playing sports,
00:17:11.960 to competing in sports.
00:17:13.700 So when you're looking
00:17:14.760 at an athlete
00:17:16.160 like A.B. Hernandez,
00:17:18.400 what would you have her do 0.97
00:17:19.700 so that she can benefit
00:17:21.460 from sporting?
00:17:22.620 I view A.B. Hernandez
00:17:27.420 as the victim
00:17:28.380 in this situation.
00:17:29.740 I feel for him
00:17:31.760 and I feel that
00:17:33.160 he has been lied to
00:17:34.900 for his entire life
00:17:36.280 and it's probably
00:17:37.620 very destabilizing
00:17:38.920 and difficult for him
00:17:40.020 right now
00:17:40.640 to realize
00:17:41.700 that what he's been told
00:17:43.000 is not actually reality.
00:17:44.760 He cannot become a girl. 1.00
00:17:47.220 What he can do
00:17:48.240 is compete
00:17:48.860 in the male category.
00:17:50.040 I mean, clearly
00:17:52.540 the anchor is
00:17:53.360 trying to get you
00:17:54.580 in this crux,
00:17:56.420 like trying to
00:17:57.100 put you in a position
00:17:58.040 where you don't know
00:17:58.680 how to respond.
00:17:59.740 But I think it was
00:18:00.480 so beautiful
00:18:01.080 in the way that you
00:18:02.200 described it as,
00:18:03.520 look, you view
00:18:04.640 A.B. Hernandez
00:18:05.740 as a victim as well.
00:18:08.200 Can you expand upon
00:18:09.520 that just a little bit?
00:18:10.700 This is the most
00:18:13.320 troubling aspect
00:18:14.380 of all of this
00:18:15.780 to me.
00:18:17.360 You know,
00:18:17.760 I have met
00:18:18.900 detransitioners.
00:18:20.380 I have spoken
00:18:21.120 to many of them.
00:18:23.000 I interact with them
00:18:23.760 on Twitter.
00:18:25.160 And the stories
00:18:26.360 that these people tell
00:18:28.040 are the most
00:18:29.480 heart-wrenching,
00:18:30.960 unbelievable stories.
00:18:33.160 And the damage
00:18:34.800 that has been done
00:18:35.640 to them psychologically
00:18:36.860 and physically
00:18:38.100 is irreversible.
00:18:39.700 I mean, these people
00:18:41.040 have lost
00:18:42.300 parts of their bodies.
00:18:44.300 Some of them
00:18:45.200 have lost
00:18:45.680 reproductive function.
00:18:46.960 They've lost
00:18:47.360 sexual function.
00:18:48.740 And they realize
00:18:50.040 once they're in their
00:18:50.960 mid to early 20s
00:18:52.440 that they've been
00:18:53.200 lied to.
00:18:53.880 They've been lied to
00:18:54.960 by, in some cases,
00:18:56.680 their parents.
00:18:57.940 And in many cases,
00:18:59.420 the sort of woke
00:19:00.460 social justice warriors
00:19:01.740 that bring them
00:19:02.560 into this
00:19:03.520 ideological cult
00:19:05.320 and tell them,
00:19:07.740 you can become
00:19:08.560 the opposite sex 1.00
00:19:09.500 and you can live
00:19:10.280 as the opposite sex 0.99
00:19:11.180 and you can do
00:19:11.820 all the things
00:19:12.660 that the opposite sex 0.99
00:19:14.100 is allowed to do
00:19:14.940 and you can enter
00:19:15.640 their spaces,
00:19:16.440 play on their teams,
00:19:17.640 do everything that they do
00:19:18.900 because you are
00:19:19.720 the opposite sex now. 0.91
00:19:21.060 And that is such
00:19:22.460 an insidious
00:19:23.480 lie to tell
00:19:25.400 and then to perpetuate.
00:19:26.980 I mean,
00:19:27.200 the state of California
00:19:28.180 has legislated
00:19:29.640 this concept
00:19:30.400 into law.
00:19:31.640 We are teaching it
00:19:32.560 to little kids
00:19:33.640 in TK
00:19:34.900 and kindergarten.
00:19:35.840 It's baked
00:19:37.460 into the curriculum
00:19:38.360 now and it's
00:19:39.700 in these books
00:19:40.340 that are being read
00:19:41.140 to very young children
00:19:42.540 and so they are
00:19:43.360 literally being
00:19:44.180 indoctrinated
00:19:44.940 into this belief system
00:19:46.560 where children
00:19:47.520 can change sex. 1.00
00:19:49.560 And there's a book
00:19:50.540 that's being read
00:19:51.340 to fifth grade children
00:19:52.520 in my district
00:19:53.360 that is telling them
00:19:55.600 a trans woman
00:19:57.000 is a woman 0.96
00:19:57.880 full stop
00:19:58.780 and anything else
00:20:00.020 is bigotry.
00:20:01.440 If you say anything
00:20:02.420 to the contrary,
00:20:03.560 you are a bigot. 0.85
00:20:04.580 That is being taught 0.97
00:20:05.800 to little children.
00:20:07.900 And so people
00:20:09.020 like A.B. Hernandez
00:20:10.320 feel for him
00:20:12.040 because now
00:20:12.600 he's in the spotlight.
00:20:14.340 He's being highlighted
00:20:15.140 by the L.A. Times
00:20:16.180 and every single
00:20:17.400 local state media outlet
00:20:19.140 in California
00:20:20.340 ran like a highlight story
00:20:21.760 about what a hero he is
00:20:23.140 for competing
00:20:23.640 in a girls competition.
00:20:25.960 And I think
00:20:27.000 a few years down the road,
00:20:29.400 it's going to hit him
00:20:30.620 that this is a lie
00:20:32.860 and I don't,
00:20:36.180 I just,
00:20:36.580 I feel for people like him
00:20:38.600 and I worry about
00:20:40.060 what comes
00:20:41.360 in their future.
00:20:45.480 We've seen several interactions
00:20:47.120 on both social media
00:20:48.860 and in real life
00:20:50.480 on these videos
00:20:51.660 that I've seen
00:20:52.480 of even his mom.
00:20:54.540 And I describe his mom 0.86
00:20:56.660 truthfully as evil.
00:20:58.080 That's the,
00:20:59.040 I mean,
00:21:00.340 that's how I view it.
00:21:01.700 Looking at these videos,
00:21:02.740 looking at these posts,
00:21:03.960 I took the total,
00:21:05.400 the same approach
00:21:05.980 that you did
00:21:06.600 in acknowledging
00:21:08.120 that A.B.
00:21:09.900 is a victim
00:21:10.620 in this story
00:21:11.500 just like the girls are.
00:21:13.060 And you're right,
00:21:13.420 I saw a post from,
00:21:15.300 an article from,
00:21:16.100 I think it was
00:21:16.500 the San Francisco Chronicle.
00:21:18.280 I think we,
00:21:18.720 we maybe have a picture of it.
00:21:20.260 It says something
00:21:21.080 to the effect of,
00:21:22.100 you know,
00:21:22.380 like,
00:21:23.020 she's beautiful
00:21:24.060 and she's a superstar 0.50
00:21:25.640 and she's a state champ 0.57
00:21:27.320 or something totally,
00:21:29.020 I mean,
00:21:29.580 outlandish virtue signaling
00:21:30.880 in that manner.
00:21:31.700 But that struck me
00:21:33.080 because it follows
00:21:33.820 the classical progression
00:21:35.220 of,
00:21:36.260 you know,
00:21:36.420 it starts out as
00:21:37.040 it's not really happening.
00:21:38.620 And then it goes to,
00:21:39.440 okay,
00:21:39.700 well,
00:21:40.320 the issue,
00:21:41.240 it is happening,
00:21:42.220 but it's not on a large scale.
00:21:43.620 It's nothing to be concerned about.
00:21:44.920 Then it's,
00:21:45.400 okay,
00:21:45.520 it's happening
00:21:46.240 relatively often,
00:21:47.600 but here's why
00:21:48.400 it's a good thing.
00:21:49.820 And then finally to,
00:21:51.020 okay,
00:21:51.360 it's happening.
00:21:52.180 It's fantastic
00:21:52.780 that it's happening.
00:21:53.460 And if you oppose it
00:21:54.720 or even dare to question it,
00:21:56.380 then you will be reprimanded.
00:21:58.520 So,
00:21:59.400 so this article was,
00:22:01.100 was wild to me.
00:22:03.200 Well,
00:22:03.740 and it's not just the Chronicle.
00:22:05.060 It's every single,
00:22:06.900 every single media outlet
00:22:08.660 in California
00:22:09.720 published a story
00:22:11.400 about what a heroic person
00:22:13.640 A.B. Hernandez is.
00:22:15.480 And I keep,
00:22:16.380 I'm still getting them
00:22:17.240 in my email inbox
00:22:18.720 and I am stunned.
00:22:20.380 Then this morning,
00:22:21.400 I don't know
00:22:21.900 if you've seen this yet,
00:22:22.960 but something called
00:22:25.040 the Truth O.C.
00:22:26.100 or O.C. Truth,
00:22:27.200 Orange County,
00:22:28.080 some substack article
00:22:29.320 written by a journalism student
00:22:31.140 from Chapman University
00:22:32.480 depicting Sonia Shaw,
00:22:34.920 who is an incredible woman
00:22:36.540 who's running
00:22:36.920 for state superintendent
00:22:37.860 in California 0.95
00:22:38.640 as a KKK Nazi
00:22:41.500 and writing an article
00:22:43.580 about what a hateful 0.99
00:22:45.080 bigot she is 1.00
00:22:47.440 and literally putting
00:22:48.880 a picture of her
00:22:49.820 in front of people
00:22:51.460 from the KKK
00:22:52.560 that were fighting
00:22:53.420 segregation
00:22:54.160 in America.
00:22:56.360 And I can't,
00:22:57.940 I mean,
00:22:58.220 the visual of this article,
00:23:00.160 especially in light
00:23:01.060 of what we just saw
00:23:02.020 this weekend
00:23:02.540 with American Jews 1.00
00:23:03.680 being lit on fire 1.00
00:23:04.820 by terrorists,
00:23:06.420 for somebody to write
00:23:07.620 something like that
00:23:08.700 is just,
00:23:10.720 it's so depraved 0.86
00:23:11.800 and so deranged. 0.63
00:23:13.160 And this is another reason
00:23:14.740 why these girls 1.00
00:23:16.320 who are in high school,
00:23:17.960 children,
00:23:18.600 are afraid to speak up
00:23:20.200 because they are depicted 0.95
00:23:21.320 as these hateful monsters 0.95
00:23:23.020 and dehumanized. 0.99
00:23:25.860 That's right.
00:23:26.660 That's right.
00:23:27.200 Yeah,
00:23:27.460 it is,
00:23:27.820 it's sickening
00:23:29.520 to see all of the hatred
00:23:30.700 across the board,
00:23:31.700 whether it's girls,
00:23:32.560 whether it's,
00:23:33.380 it's,
00:23:33.840 I mean,
00:23:34.460 directed at Jews,
00:23:35.400 it's,
00:23:35.680 it's really sad.
00:23:37.080 And I think the thing
00:23:37.760 to note here
00:23:38.260 is it's all being perpetrated
00:23:39.560 by the Democratic Party.
00:23:42.040 Of course,
00:23:42.500 they love this word rhetoric,
00:23:43.960 the rhetoric that they use,
00:23:45.620 the way that they vote,
00:23:47.520 really, 0.94
00:23:48.220 really sickening stuff. 0.97
00:23:50.420 I mentioned the Trump, 0.73
00:23:51.620 Trump tweet again,
00:23:53.300 where it's,
00:23:54.000 it's really fantastic.
00:23:55.780 He put Gavin Newsom
00:23:57.120 in the hot seat,
00:23:58.140 which has needed to happen
00:23:59.180 for a very,
00:24:00.020 very long time.
00:24:00.760 People in California
00:24:01.500 have been doing it,
00:24:02.580 but on a national scale,
00:24:03.920 I think,
00:24:04.600 especially as
00:24:05.280 what's been pretty clear to me,
00:24:07.020 Gavin Newsom is angling
00:24:08.040 at a 2028 presidential run,
00:24:09.880 really just incredibly done
00:24:11.980 by the Trump administration.
00:24:13.780 But I saw a tweet
00:24:14.600 from,
00:24:14.980 from Harmeet Dillon,
00:24:16.260 a California native as well,
00:24:18.700 talking about how
00:24:19.880 the Department of Justice
00:24:20.800 is going to get involved.
00:24:22.740 So my question for you,
00:24:24.060 as you know,
00:24:24.880 with,
00:24:25.220 with the legal mind here,
00:24:26.300 what can we expect to see next?
00:24:28.020 Will we see more boys competing
00:24:29.840 in the state of California
00:24:31.500 and other sports?
00:24:32.620 Will we see consequential action
00:24:34.560 before then?
00:24:35.420 Will we see Gavin Newsom
00:24:36.520 hop off the fence
00:24:37.500 that he has sat on
00:24:38.780 his entire political career?
00:24:41.420 What's next?
00:24:43.960 I love Harmeet Dillon.
00:24:45.700 She is one of my personal heroes,
00:24:47.600 and I know that she cares a lot
00:24:49.660 about saving California
00:24:51.280 and protecting girls
00:24:52.240 and women here. 1.00
00:24:52.980 I know Trump feels the same way.
00:24:54.960 I think seeing Trump
00:24:56.600 directly address this
00:24:58.400 on his own social media
00:24:59.920 is a very good sign
00:25:01.760 that the federal government
00:25:03.360 is gearing up
00:25:04.860 to drop some heat
00:25:05.940 in California.
00:25:06.780 The warnings are not
00:25:07.520 going to work anymore.
00:25:08.180 We need actual litigation.
00:25:10.120 We need penalties.
00:25:11.420 We need funding withheld.
00:25:13.100 I wish that wasn't the case.
00:25:15.180 I wish we didn't have to lose
00:25:16.620 our federal funding.
00:25:17.660 It's $8 billion.
00:25:20.080 But the state of California
00:25:21.520 is run by what I call
00:25:23.580 feckless neuters. 1.00
00:25:24.680 These people who 0.99
00:25:25.820 have no courage. 1.00
00:25:27.740 They are cowardly. 0.99
00:25:29.000 They never do the right thing. 1.00
00:25:30.540 They only do
00:25:31.520 what the unions want them to do.
00:25:33.480 They only do
00:25:34.300 what the radical leftist activists
00:25:36.040 want them to do,
00:25:37.040 and they're not going
00:25:37.940 to do the right thing.
00:25:39.860 No way.
00:25:40.660 No way.
00:25:41.080 Well, Julie,
00:25:41.640 thank you for everything.
00:25:43.320 Thank you for how you fight
00:25:44.560 for the state of California.
00:25:46.360 It is certainly
00:25:47.860 an uphill battle,
00:25:48.820 but without people like you,
00:25:51.080 the state,
00:25:52.160 it's hard to imagine,
00:25:53.200 would be far,
00:25:54.400 far worse
00:25:55.160 than it's being governed
00:25:57.120 right now.
00:25:58.180 So thank you for everything.
00:25:59.380 Thank you for pushing back
00:26:00.480 and how that transcends
00:26:01.900 beyond the state of California.
00:26:03.760 People like me
00:26:04.580 are truthfully indebted to you.
00:26:06.560 So thank you.
00:26:07.660 Thank you so much
00:26:08.280 for having me on.
00:26:09.560 Thank you guys again
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00:26:40.340 Hopefully we're done
00:26:41.440 talking about this issue.
00:26:43.760 We're done talking
00:26:44.440 about California,
00:26:45.160 but of course
00:26:45.760 that would be wishful thinking.
00:26:47.900 I have a feeling
00:26:48.840 even still,
00:26:50.320 I mean,
00:26:50.600 this is of course
00:26:51.400 is something that
00:26:52.080 we've been talking about
00:26:53.280 here on this show
00:26:54.100 for since its inception.
00:26:55.860 What I've been dealing
00:26:56.820 with personally
00:26:57.620 through the platform
00:26:59.540 that I have,
00:27:00.320 the advocacy
00:27:00.820 that I've been doing
00:27:01.620 for more than three years now,
00:27:03.700 I have a feeling
00:27:04.600 that even still
00:27:05.860 we are just
00:27:06.520 at the beginning stages
00:27:07.920 of this issue.
00:27:09.000 Even with someone
00:27:09.860 like Donald Trump
00:27:10.720 in office,
00:27:11.800 the other side
00:27:12.420 has proven themselves 1.00
00:27:13.360 to be number one idiots. 1.00
00:27:15.580 Like the way 1.00
00:27:15.900 they continue
00:27:16.380 to double down on this
00:27:17.420 is nonsensical. 1.00
00:27:18.900 It is idiotic. 1.00
00:27:19.720 It is a losing issue 1.00
00:27:20.700 for them,
00:27:21.680 but they're relentless
00:27:22.480 in their pursuit
00:27:23.800 of destruction.
00:27:25.520 Really,
00:27:25.960 that's what this is.
00:27:27.500 So I imagine
00:27:28.540 many more episodes ahead.
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