Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - S02E28 - TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT

00:00:26.000 Hello, folks.

00:00:27.000 Welcome back to Get Off My Lawn.

00:00:30.000 I chose that song because apparently Ryan ain't working here no more.

00:00:35.000 He didn't show up for work today.

00:00:37.000 And the way I work as a boss is I'm sort of like baseball.

00:00:41.000 I give you 37 strikes and then you're out.

00:00:44.000 And today was 37.

00:00:46.000 And he's out.

00:00:49.000 He might have an incredible excuse.

00:00:50.000 He might show up drenched in blood tomorrow or tonight.

00:00:53.000 But that's not how it works here at McDonald's.

00:00:55.000 We need to flip the burgers now.

00:00:58.000 So we had to switch studios.

00:00:59.000 We've done the best we can to make this look like the original studio so you don't get disoriented by the thumbnail.

00:01:05.000 But I'm going to try to cram everything in into the next, I don't know, 45 minutes to an hour.

00:01:11.000 We'll see what we can get.

00:01:13.000 Tomorrow should go as planned.

00:01:15.000 We should be doing the vidcast version of the podcast.

00:01:19.000 And then Free Speech, the show, I think it's Michelle Malkin and Dr. Eric Michael Dyson.

00:01:29.000 And that will probably be uploaded Saturday night.

00:01:31.000 But tomorrow will be live.

00:01:34.000 Tomorrow will be live.

00:01:36.000 There will be call-ins.

00:01:39.000 Somehow, I'm going to figure it out.

00:01:42.000 So the three guests I want to cram into this show are James O'Keefe, John Lott, and John Matz.

00:01:51.000 Matzy?

00:01:52.000 At Parlay.

00:01:53.000 I think you're supposed to say Parlay.

00:01:55.000 I'm sophisticated.

00:01:55.000 I speak French.

00:01:57.000 So unlike the plebes who just spell everything literally, I use the French pronunciation. 1.00

00:02:03.000 John doesn't even use that.

00:02:04.000 I'm more sophisticated than the CEO of the company, which is amazing. 1.00

00:02:09.000 That's like there's a couple and you know how to fuck a guy's wife better than he does. 1.00

00:02:17.000 But it's not good to say that. 0.99

00:02:19.000 Don't convey that.

00:02:20.000 But if you think that, then just look at her when they're at like a family gathering and just sort of go.

00:02:30.000 And she'll sort of go, ho, and shudder. 0.99

00:02:33.000 Man, I haven't been attractive for so long.

00:02:36.000 I haven't been attractive since 1987.

00:02:40.000 So the whole idea of being remotely seductive has been out the window for a long ass time.

00:02:48.000 The reason I want to get those three guys in is because they're all in the news and they're all our bros.

00:02:52.000 It's funny, when we came up with this show, Free Speech, we said that'll sort of be the general gist, like free speech, but it'll be comedy and we won't, it's not like we'll be touching on free speech every episode.

00:03:02.000 It's not that big of a subject.

00:03:04.000 Yeah, it is.

00:03:05.000 This is like a show called World War II in 1943 in Dresden. 1.00

00:03:12.000 Shit is going down. 0.98

00:03:15.000 So the three things are John Lott, whom we'll get to shortly, 60 Minutes had a big thing on Sunday, obviously. 0.99

00:03:26.000 We'll get to that in a second.

00:03:28.000 Where Scott Pelley, who I hate, Scott Pelly is such a turd.

00:03:33.000 And they did this whole thing on AR-15s and how dangerous they are because the bullets go faster and they shot some gelatin.

00:03:41.000 And now we need to know all this because school shootings are a daily occurrence.

00:03:45.000 School shootings are going up.

00:03:46.000 So we'll bring in our resident gun expert, John, to say, are they really going up?

00:03:50.000 And is it really a big deal how fast, do these shells even go faster?

00:03:54.000 What part of that was true?

00:03:55.000 Remember, Scott Pelley did a thing with Mike Cernovich on 60 Minutes about fake news.

00:04:00.000 And he said, how will people differentiate between the New York Times, which isn't really real news, let's say Breitbart.

00:04:08.000 And then he had some weird newspaper like the Colorado Sentinel Fireball.

00:04:13.000 And you're like, Scott, no one's ever mentioned that other one before.

00:04:16.000 Your whole thesis for this whole episode is BS.

00:04:19.000 But Cernovich ate him alive.

00:04:23.000 And then I want to talk to James O'Keefe because James O'Keefe infiltrated Google.

00:04:28.000 And by the way, there's been some blowback we'll get to where they go, yeah, he infiltrated Google.

00:04:32.000 He's pretending to be someone he wasn't. 0.99

00:04:35.000 Yeah, retard. 1.00

00:04:36.000 That's what investigative journalism is. 0.97

00:04:39.000 You don't walk up to Google and say, hi, are you guys holding any secrets?

00:04:42.000 Are you banning any conservatives?

00:04:44.000 I'd love to know.

00:04:45.000 So I'm doing all this by the seat of my pants due to my incompetent employee or ex-employee who with his actions told me to take this job and shove it.

00:04:53.000 I ain't working here no more.

00:04:56.000 So I'll be texting all these people and trying to get them on as we go forward.

00:05:01.000 James O'Keefe's story, though, was that Google feels responsible for Trump winning 2016 and is determined to make him lose in 2020.

00:05:10.000 Huge, huge.

00:05:13.000 And that is tampering with the election.

00:05:15.000 They are colluding with the algorithms to ruin Trump in 2020.

00:05:20.000 It won't work, by the way.

00:05:22.000 But first, John Matze from Parlay.

00:05:27.000 Can you try to get him on the line?

00:05:31.000 So something came out, I think it was like yesterday, yeah, where you can pull this up now, where it was big league politics.

00:05:38.000 They said Apple has told John to stop having so much free speech or they're going to shut him down.

00:05:48.000 Meaning they won't allow him on the app.

00:05:50.000 Apple App Store rejects satirical Clinton.

00:05:53.000 Oh, no, that's different.

00:05:54.000 That's from last year where he had a Hillary game, an anti-Hillary game, and they banned it.

00:06:01.000 You can pull that back up.

00:06:03.000 Oh, this is the right one.

00:06:04.000 See, it's going to be a little seat of the pants here, guys.

00:06:08.000 Apple tells, we'll say Parlor because I'm speaking to you lower class people who don't speak French. 1.00

00:06:13.000 Apple tells Parlor to censor free speech or lose its app.

00:06:17.000 So Twitter has an app.

00:06:19.000 They censor conservatives.

00:06:21.000 They censor one half of the political spectrum.

00:06:23.000 Then people say, stop whining, make your own app.

00:06:26.000 Okay, fine.

00:06:27.000 That's kind of shitty that we're not allowed on that one, but fine.

00:06:29.000 Then there's a free speech app.

00:06:31.000 It's not a conservative app, per se.

00:06:33.000 It's a free speech app where he doesn't censor anyone.

00:06:37.000 Now, if people say the Holocaust didn't happen, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:39.000 I talked to him about that last episode or two episodes ago, if you recall.

00:06:42.000 And he said, yeah, that's an issue. 0.96

00:06:44.000 Super anti-Semites, super racist folks. 0.98

00:06:47.000 But they tend to get into violence pretty quick. 0.98

00:06:49.000 So they'll go, the Holocaust don't happen. 1.00

00:06:50.000 There's goddamn Jews, blah, blah, blah, kill the Jews. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Boom, you're gone. 1.00

00:06:54.000 Now you're violating the law.

00:06:55.000 So they follow FCC law.

00:06:57.000 So there's not really a problem with anti-Semites and racists.

00:07:02.000 But just the fact that there's an open discussion going on, big tech is pissed off.

00:07:07.000 And Apple tells them to stop.

00:07:09.000 So we realize this isn't about stopping hate.

00:07:12.000 This is proof that what it's really about is controlling the narrative.

00:07:18.000 Big tech is in bed with the DNC and the left, and they want to make sure that they are in charge of the narrative.

00:07:25.000 And if someone does their own thing, we'll know.

00:07:27.000 So not only is John being told, you have to develop your own app if you don't like Twitter, you have to develop your own phone now.

00:07:36.000 Apple contacted me over a week ago via telephone saying that we need to ban offensive content off parlor or they will take parlor off the app store.

00:07:45.000 We flat out refused and now we cannot push updates.

00:07:47.000 Let's talk to him about what offensive is defined as too.

00:07:50.000 Obviously by offensive they mean conservative.

00:07:52.000 Twitter is exempt from this clause as they generate more hatred than any platform in history.

00:07:56.000 Please share and leave Bill with the Apple Review Board a voicemail and then that is at 1-408-974-2992.

00:08:08.000 Can we get a hold of John?

00:08:09.000 Can we Skype him?

00:08:10.000 You got him?

00:08:13.000 I call him Jean at Parlais, but he's probably John at Parlor to you.

00:08:18.000 What are you doing?

00:08:19.000 You're upside down?

00:08:20.000 What's going on there?

00:08:21.000 Sorry, I'm on my phone.

00:08:22.000 Should I switch my laptop or?

00:08:24.000 But try to keep it stationary or we're going to have a seizure.

00:08:24.000 No, that's fine.

00:08:27.000 Or turn your phone sideways.

00:08:29.000 They're telling you to turn your phone sideways over here.

00:08:35.000 There we go.

00:08:36.000 There we go.

00:08:37.000 Hear me?

00:08:37.000 Yeah.

00:08:38.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

00:08:41.000 Wait, you're in charge of this new app that's going to destroy Twitter? 1.00

00:08:45.000 Yeah, and I can't keep a phone straight.

00:08:47.000 I'm going to use wine to hold you.

00:08:49.000 Well, you're so hot you can't keep me straight. 1.00

00:08:51.000 I'm gay. 0.96

00:08:52.000 Just looking at those gorgeous mile-high cheekbones. 0.77

00:08:57.000 Oh, my God.

00:08:58.000 So we're just, I got a message from a lawyer.

00:09:01.000 I don't know how much to say this morning, and he said, he said to me, why the hell wasn't John in court this morning?

00:09:07.000 And his quote was, he should have been in court this morning with an order to show case against Apple.

00:09:12.000 I don't know what that means.

00:09:14.000 I'm not a lawyer.

00:09:15.000 I don't know.

00:09:16.000 They talk a lot.

00:09:17.000 So I don't know.

00:09:19.000 They also charge a lot of money.

00:09:20.000 We have like two teams, and I avoid talking to them for that reason.

00:09:24.000 But I mean, realistically, I'd like to try to go to their headquarters and speak directly to senior management or ideally someone like Tim Cook directly about what happened yesterday because it's going to happen again.

00:09:37.000 And if it's happening to me and Barler, it's happening to a lot of other people.

00:09:42.000 This is not the first time they banned an app of mine.

00:09:46.000 Well, they banned.

00:09:47.000 We talked about that, your Hillary game.

00:09:48.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I try not to talk about it too much because I'm running a bipartisan company now.

00:09:55.000 My personal politics can't come into play.

00:09:57.000 But in the 2016, before the election, they didn't want my game going viral, which was where you manage Hillary Clinton's email server and you'd delete all the emails before the FBI could find them.

00:10:08.000 It's really corny.

00:10:09.000 It's cheesy.

00:10:09.000 We made it in an afternoon.

00:10:12.000 And it's all factual basis.

00:10:13.000 It's based off of Peter Schweitzer's research.

00:10:16.000 But they got rid of that because they thought it would be, you know, in my opinion, it's politically too effective.

00:10:21.000 Meanwhile, on the left, they let people dump dog dirt all over President Trump's face.

00:10:27.000 Yeah, my six-year-old, the other day, I grabbed his iPad, and there he is shooting at Trump with arrows, and there's blood everywhere.

00:10:34.000 I think it's called Bowmaster or something.

00:10:36.000 Yeah, that's allowed.

00:10:37.000 That's okay, as long as it's not conservative content.

00:10:39.000 Now, I mean, that's why they don't like Parler, which is funny because we're not conservative.

00:10:45.000 We are neutral.

00:10:47.000 I am neutral.

00:10:48.000 I don't care what you write.

00:10:49.000 You can be a whack job, leftist, right-leaning individual, or whatever you want.

00:10:53.000 You're allowed to speak.

00:10:54.000 That's your right.

00:10:55.000 You know, as long as you don't get violent, you don't do anything aggressive.

00:10:59.000 That's what I find so fascinating about this war on you is you didn't say give Nazis the right to talk or even give conservatives the right to talk.

00:11:07.000 You said, let's just have an open platform.

00:11:09.000 And by them protesting you, they're conceding that they're not against hate.

00:11:14.000 They're not against conservatives.

00:11:15.000 They're against them not being in control of the narrative.

00:11:18.000 Yeah, and I want to have a talk directly with their senior management because they have a monopoly on their app store.

00:11:23.000 Whether or not you think that the iPhone is a monopoly, their app store is a monopoly.

00:11:29.000 You cannot compete with the app store.

00:11:31.000 You can't make an alternative app store.

00:11:32.000 You can't host your app on your own website to download.

00:11:35.000 You have to get their explicit permission to put something on the iPhone.

00:11:39.000 That is anti-American and that's monopolistic. 1.00

00:11:42.000 Now, here's a really stupid question. 0.96

00:11:44.000 If you have an Android or something, do you go through their app store to get your apps? 0.97

00:11:49.000 You go through the Google App Store, but Google allows other app stores to exist.

00:11:53.000 Amazon has a Google App Store.

00:11:56.000 So could you put it on the Amazon App Store?

00:11:58.000 No, it's a Google App Store.

00:12:00.000 Yeah, and that's only for Google devices.

00:12:01.000 Apple is done.

00:12:02.000 Apple, you'd have to get their explicit permission to put an app on someone's iPhone.

00:12:05.000 That's it.

00:12:06.000 There's no way around that.

00:12:08.000 There's no way around that without prosecuting them legally.

00:12:12.000 Yes, basically.

00:12:13.000 I mean, if you want me to go down the nerd rabbit hole, you could.

00:12:17.000 Okay, so then I won't.

00:12:20.000 Maybe 0.25% of the population can get around that app store thing.

00:12:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:12:26.000 So when they told you to remove your offensive content, was there any more explanation whatsoever or just the word offensive?

00:12:35.000 So there was no explanation at all.

00:12:38.000 I even was on the phone.

00:12:39.000 I wrote very detailed notes for my phone call with Bill last night.

00:12:44.000 I asked them, is there any explicit examples?

00:12:47.000 No.

00:12:48.000 Is there anything you can tell me to help me figure out what's going on?

00:12:52.000 No.

00:12:53.000 We're just in review.

00:12:54.000 This is very official, blah, blah, blah.

00:12:56.000 And I was like, oh, okay, it's so official that two hours later when the president's son tweets about it, you know, at 1.30 in the morning, by the way, I'm getting phone calls.

00:13:03.000 Is that official normal procedure for Apple?

00:13:07.000 You know, I remember Twitter about four years ago when the Nazis were in full swing. 0.60

00:13:12.000 And Ron Coleman, my lawyer, talks about this.

00:13:14.000 He says, I was kind of uncomfortable.

00:13:15.000 It was an uncomfortable place to be.

00:13:17.000 A lot of Holocaust stuff and didn't do nothing, racist cartoons and stuff.

00:13:21.000 They got rid of that tiny sliver that can, it's like a drop of black ink.

00:13:25.000 It can ruin the glass of water.

00:13:27.000 And then Twitter was pretty good for a while.

00:13:29.000 And then they thought, wait a minute, we can use that same justification to get rid of everyone we don't like and control the conversation.

00:13:34.000 But I've been on parlor for about a week or so now.

00:13:38.000 And I'm following as many people as I can.

00:13:42.000 And you never see any of that.

00:13:44.000 It's not even close to as bad as Twitter was a few years ago.

00:13:47.000 You definitely see a lot of conservatives.

00:13:49.000 And that's probably because it's my tweets or whatever.

00:13:51.000 But I haven't seen any racism, any N-words, any anti-Semitism.

00:13:57.000 I haven't personally seen any anti-Semitism on there other than a few select users who are obviously trolls and they gave up after a day because they weren't getting any traction.

00:14:05.000 I have seen a lot of anti-Islam stuff, but we also have a lot of pro-Islam stuff too and people defending it.

00:14:10.000 So you've got both sides.

00:14:11.000 I mean, that's the whole part of the debate.

00:14:13.000 But from my point of view, Twitter is what I would call a hate haven.

00:14:19.000 If you want the definition of hate and you want to figure out what hate is, just go on any one of Donald Trump's posts and don't read what he has to say.

00:14:27.000 Read what all of the angry, hateful, awful leftists who are working with Twitter to promote those comments are saying.

00:14:35.000 That is the definition of hate.

00:14:36.000 So if Apple's going to take a look at Parlor for some minor offenses by people's comments who have no votes, who are just talking about illegal immigration, et cetera, then you should take a look at Twitter and ban them before they ban us because they are a hate haven. 0.99

00:14:51.000 Yeah, I saw Dana Lash was trending on Twitter recently, and 100% of the comments, not one of them was kind, and they were all rotten hell, bitch, and we're so glad you're gone. 0.99

00:15:02.000 I know. 0.99

00:15:03.000 How awful is that?

00:15:04.000 No one should say that.

00:15:06.000 Poor lady. 1.00

00:15:07.000 And the worst part is, is Twitter doesn't, like, we publish it where you can sort it by like most liked comment, least liked comment, most recent, you know, the oldest.

00:15:16.000 Theirs is, we are going to tell you what we think that you want to see for the comments.

00:15:22.000 How non-transparent is it?

00:15:23.000 And when they're allying with these hateful people, doesn't that make Twitter more hateful because they're promoting the hateful comments?

00:15:30.000 Every time you're mad at someone, it's because they show something about you that you don't like.

00:15:35.000 And Twitter is mad at you because you've exposed them for what they are.

00:15:39.000 They are promoting hate, and they hate you because you show both sides.

00:15:43.000 That's not what they want.

00:15:44.000 No more both sides.

00:15:45.000 It allows people to think and make up their mind.

00:15:47.000 And my question is, why did Tim Cook get involved in this?

00:15:51.000 Did Jack Dorsey call him?

00:15:53.000 I don't want to start conspiracy theories.

00:15:53.000 I don't know.

00:15:55.000 I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I think they're not.

00:15:56.000 No, we're conspiracy theorists over here.

00:16:00.000 Yeah, I think that's a valid theory.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:03.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:16:04.000 You know, are these people looking out for each other?

00:16:06.000 I don't know.

00:16:07.000 There's too little transparency.

00:16:09.000 So questions need answers.

00:16:10.000 Well, I'm reminded of Steve Bannon when he said, you think they'd give it up without a fight?

00:16:14.000 You are stepping into the lion's den, my friend.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, how dare I be bipartisan?

00:16:19.000 How dare I be?

00:16:20.000 That is your sin.

00:16:20.000 Really?

00:16:22.000 That's what it comes down to.

00:16:23.000 All right, John, thanks for coming on the show, and let's check in on you on a regular basis.

00:16:27.000 Sounds like you have a legal defense fund in your future. 0.97

00:16:30.000 We might.

00:16:31.000 Let's see if they'll invite me to their headquarters to meet with them first.

00:16:36.000 All right, see you, man.

00:16:38.000 Bye.

00:16:41.000 Is he melting your mouth gorgeous or what?

00:16:46.000 Don't you wish it could be that hot?

00:16:49.000 My cousin's that hot. 1.00

00:16:51.000 He's half Mexican.

00:16:53.000 And we'll be at a thing, like a baseball game with the kids.

00:16:56.000 And I said this on an earlier show. 0.60

00:16:57.000 He'll just be surrounded with these horny housewives. 1.00

00:17:01.000 And I go, what's going on here? 1.00

00:17:02.000 You're like a bitch magnet. 1.00

00:17:03.000 And he goes, it's been like that my whole life. 1.00

00:17:05.000 And he's cordial.

00:17:06.000 You know, he's not going to cheat on his wife.

00:17:07.000 He's cordial, says hello, blah, blah, blah.

00:17:09.000 And then they slowly disperse.

00:17:10.000 It must be fun to be a hunk.

00:17:12.000 It must be fun to be a hot chick. 1.00

00:17:14.000 Can you imagine?

00:17:16.000 I just saw this woman on the street in New York here.

00:17:19.000 She had these like espadrilles super high up. 0.99

00:17:23.000 And her shirt was so, it was below her shorts, so it looked like she had no shorts on. 0.98

00:17:27.000 And then she had a little tie thing here with her big tits hanging out. 1.00

00:17:30.000 Perfect face. 0.99

00:17:31.000 Her hair up.

00:17:31.000 I should have taken a picture.

00:17:32.000 I apologize.

00:17:33.000 And I've developed this thing in New York now where like I used to go, ooh.

00:17:38.000 And now, and this is not voluntary, now I can't help but go, oh. 0.99

00:17:45.000 It sounds like someone's removing, like I ate a long string and it started coming out of my butt. 0.99

00:17:51.000 And someone's going, oh, here, let me get that. 0.99

00:17:53.000 And I'm like, ha.

00:17:56.000 That's the sound I make.

00:17:57.000 But then you think, imagine from her perspective, just standing there waiting for the light to cross and knowing that like seven people are going, oh my.

00:18:07.000 That's just one intersection.

00:18:09.000 Imagine you, as a guy, you're just like, oh, the light's red.

00:18:13.000 And then you're looking around, you just see women going, oh. 1.00

00:18:13.000 I guess I'll wait here. 1.00

00:18:17.000 I actually did a sketch like that on Funnier Die called, Are Women as Horny as Men?

00:18:22.000 Which you should probably pull up. 0.98

00:18:24.000 Because to act out a scenario like that is fucking hilarious. 0.92

00:18:28.000 We're not equal. 0.98

00:18:30.000 Women and men are different. 0.99

00:18:33.000 Look at a scrotum. 0.99

00:18:35.000 God already sent us a clue that we're not the fairer sex. 0.99

00:18:40.000 But we keep pretending. 0.99

00:18:41.000 Oh yeah, I love checking out men's butts. 1.00

00:18:44.000 Yeah, sure you do, ladies. 1.00

00:18:47.000 Such lies.

00:18:48.000 You know what women are attracted to? 1.00

00:18:50.000 An ambitious man with a car who wants to take care of them. 0.99

00:18:54.000 He could be fucking Danny DeVito for all they care. 0.96

00:18:57.000 don't even think they like Brad Pitt or who's that guy, the soccer guy, David Beckham. 0.99

00:19:02.000 I don't think they're...

00:19:06.000 I don't think men really enjoy cigars.

00:19:08.000 Just jump ahead, maybe a third.

00:19:09.000 Are you kidding me?

00:19:10.000 Women are. 1.00

00:19:12.000 No, a little more. 1.00

00:19:15.000 Oh, that's woman's pussies getting wet. 1.00

00:19:16.000 Just looking at my short shorts. 1.00

00:19:22.000 She dumped her boyfriend and deeply regretted it.

00:19:31.000 That's the boyfriend she dumped.

00:19:35.000 All right, we got the idea.

00:19:37.000 You can dig that up on your own.

00:19:38.000 I took a sialis that day because I knew it was going to be coming out.

00:19:42.000 But then it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa!

00:19:45.000 This is getting a little too big.

00:19:47.000 So it was like, my grand on the bog, my nan on the bog, my nan on the bog, as Ali G would say.

00:19:54.000 I had to imagine my dad naked being attacked by dogs.

00:19:57.000 That's how you lose it immediately.

00:19:59.000 But then the next time you see your dad nude, I mean, like with his shirt off, you're like, I have a Pavlovian response.

00:20:04.000 It's ironic that I use dogs to not become aroused because now that I see my dad near dogs, I'm getting aroused.

00:20:10.000 It's Pavlovian.

00:20:12.000 And he's like, yo, right, pal.

00:20:14.000 And I go, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:16.000 Imagine that dog went and bit you? 1.00

00:20:18.000 I'd kill it. 0.99

00:20:19.000 Why'd you mention that? 1.00

00:20:20.000 No reason.

00:20:21.000 I've just been having desires.

00:20:27.000 All right, let's see if we can get a hold of John Lott.

00:20:29.000 Did I give you his?

00:20:31.000 You got him?

00:20:34.000 I didn't remember sending it to you.

00:20:34.000 Well, that's good.

00:20:37.000 I'm just awesome, that's all.

00:20:41.000 And if he's not there, we'll do the 60-minute stuff.

00:20:44.000 Who he is?

00:20:46.000 And then we'll show the 60-minute stuff after.

00:20:49.000 John, are you there, sir?

00:20:52.000 How you doing?

00:20:54.000 Doing okay.

00:20:55.000 Sorry to hear about your engineer.

00:20:58.000 Yes, bad news.

00:20:59.000 I noticed you're jumping aboard the facial hair train.

00:21:01.000 Welcome aboard.

00:21:02.000 Okay.

00:21:04.000 Well, I mean, you set the trailblazing path behind the problem.

00:21:10.000 So, 60 minutes, the whole time, I wish I had like a John Lott bot.

00:21:15.000 And every time I see lies about guns, I can just sort of summon it like a bad signal. 1.00

00:21:19.000 And then you appear on the show and say, this is bullshit. 1.00

00:21:24.000 Right. 1.00

00:21:24.000 It's like Carl Pokington. 1.00

00:21:26.000 I have to say that was a really painful show to watch.

00:21:30.000 I mean, just the amount of misinformation that was there.

00:21:34.000 So there's three things they say on the show.

00:21:37.000 One, mass shootings are now de rigour.

00:21:40.000 They're part of our normal life.

00:21:42.000 It's just a given that they're not just on the increase.

00:21:44.000 They've sort of come up and now they plateaued at peak mass shooting.

00:21:48.000 Two, a big problem with these mass shootings is Air-15s have super bullets that go way faster than any other bullet.

00:21:55.000 And then three, this isn't really a third, but three, let's just accept this, and now we need triage kits everywhere we go because there's going to be bleeding kids everywhere.

00:22:05.000 So let's start with the first one.

00:22:07.000 Are mass shootings on the rise?

00:22:11.000 Well, I mean, there's been 2017 and 2018 were relatively high years for it.

00:22:19.000 You know, those two years, there surely has been an increase in relative to other years.

00:22:27.000 Overall, in terms of the number of shootings, even with those two years, it's pretty flat.

00:22:32.000 The big increase that you did see an increase, though, in terms of the number of deaths from these types of shootings.

00:22:39.000 A lot of that has to do with the Las Vegas attack that's there.

00:22:43.000 So, you know, obviously we've had a couple bad years, obviously horrible years in terms of the number of deaths that are there.

00:22:53.000 Whether that's an aberration, whether that's a trend, I suppose you have to wait a little bit longer.

00:22:58.000 So far this year, we've had three mass public shootings.

00:23:03.000 The number of deaths are down quite a bit from what it had been before.

00:23:07.000 So, you know, my own guess is that was probably a little bit of an aberration.

00:23:14.000 Well, they do this with climate change.

00:23:15.000 They take the past 10 years and they ignore 3.5 billion.

00:23:20.000 I looked at the charts you sent me, and I even looked at their charts, and there's so many strange spikes that drawing a graph is totally misleading.

00:23:30.000 It's like the number of times a watermelon has spontaneously exploded.

00:23:34.000 Well, yeah, there's been two in the past two years, but to draw a graph amongst these numbers, I guess it might be going up sort of.

00:23:44.000 Whether they say let's you have two years that are very bad, okay?

00:23:50.000 Whether that's and a lot of that has to do with a couple of attacks that are there.

00:23:57.000 Whether that's a trend or not, you know, I don't know.

00:24:01.000 You know, we'll have to see.

00:24:02.000 I mean, one thing I can't say is that virtually all these attacks keep on occurring in places where people aren't allowed to defend themselves.

00:24:14.000 You have the irony with the Virginia Beach attack.

00:24:17.000 You have another mass public shooting in a place where the victims were banned from having guns.

00:24:24.000 And the response from the Virginia Beach City Council is to say, well, we have to go and ban guns and still other areas.

00:24:32.000 Obviously, the killer in this case was banned from having guns in that area, and yet it didn't stop him.

00:24:40.000 One of the tragedies about this is that there was a woman there named Kate Nixon who was concerned about this guy.

00:24:48.000 Apparently had complained about him to no avail and had talked to her family about whether she should go and carry her permit-concealed handgun with her to work.

00:25:00.000 Virginia Beach was one of those municipalities in Virginia that didn't allow municipal employees to be able to have permit-concealed handguns.

00:25:11.000 And apparently she was going to take it that morning, had walked out to her car, but had decided at the last moment that she just couldn't go and break the rules that were there.

00:25:24.000 And so locked the gun in her house and went into work and was killed later that day.

00:25:30.000 Oh, my God.

00:25:31.000 Break the rules.

00:25:33.000 Get in trouble.

00:25:34.000 Well, I mean, no, I can understand why people, law-abiding citizens, don't want to break the rules.

00:25:40.000 Obviously, this killer, though, didn't face the same compulsion to obey the rules.

00:25:45.000 And in fact, the fact that he was willing to break it while everybody else obeyed the rule made it easier for him to go and kill lots of people than he would have been able to kill otherwise.

00:25:57.000 So the graph we just showed, there was 53, 71, 117, another one that was around 71.

00:26:03.000 There was four shootings from 2016 to now that make it look like it's going up.

00:26:09.000 You can't do that.

00:26:09.000 That's not how statistics work.

00:26:11.000 But what about school shootings?

00:26:13.000 Have you got a chart for school shootings in that link, guys?

00:26:17.000 The Cato Institute seemed to say that they were pretty steady.

00:26:22.000 But when I look at your research, it says, no, they're actually going down.

00:26:27.000 Right.

00:26:28.000 I mean, obviously, we've had the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas attack.

00:26:34.000 But even when you take that into account, when you look over time, there's been a general decline in deaths from school shootings.

00:26:44.000 So, I mean, you know, people are relatively safer in schools.

00:26:49.000 Now, that doesn't mean we can't do more.

00:26:51.000 And one of the things is to arm more teachers.

00:26:54.000 We have 20 states now that have teachers that can legally carry guns at schools.

00:27:01.000 You have some states where all the schools have teachers that carry guns, places like New Hampshire or Utah.

00:27:10.000 And you have other states like Texas, where you have over 300 school districts where teachers were carrying guns as the end of last year, where it's up to the individual school district or superintendent to decide whether or not the teachers are going to be able to go and carry.

00:27:29.000 Well, the myth is that Trump wants to arm teachers.

00:27:33.000 He never said just have a big bucket of guns in the front of the school where teachers could come.

00:27:37.000 He said, if you are allowed to have a gun, if you have a permit, then you should be able to use that permit on school grounds.

00:27:44.000 Sounds reasonable to me.

00:27:46.000 I mean, I think he was going to leave it up to the schools to decide whether or not to do that.

00:27:51.000 But he wasn't saying that all teachers should carry.

00:27:53.000 I'm not arguing that's the case.

00:27:55.000 Nobody is.

00:27:56.000 But no, I know, but it's a nice straw man to make it sound like you're going to do that.

00:28:01.000 Look, I think there's a huge benefit even from having a few teachers being able to go and carry at school.

00:28:06.000 So rather than a sign in front of the school that says the school is a gun-free zone, you have a sign that says, you know, some teachers at the school are armed and will use their guns to protect the students and themselves if necessary.

00:28:22.000 The odds are not in your favor if you come here.

00:28:24.000 And as you said on this show a million times, the number one reason for mass shootings is I'm suicidal.

00:28:30.000 I want to make the most impact.

00:28:32.000 I'd make the most impact at a place without guns.

00:28:35.000 The other symptoms like white supremacy or Christianity or Islam are not that big of a factor.

00:28:43.000 I mean, we've looked at the political motives for these killers, and, you know, very few of them have any type of political motivation one way or the other.

00:28:53.000 As you say, you have people who want to go and commit suicide, and they want to commit suicide in a way where they can go and say, see, we were here, that people will notice that they were here.

00:29:04.000 And the more people they kill, they know the more media attention they can get. 1.00

00:29:08.000 And these guys may be crazy, but they're not stupid. 0.98

00:29:12.000 They know if they go to a place, as you say, where victims aren't able to defend themselves and it takes some time for somebody to arrive on the scene to be able to go and defend those people, they're going to be able to kill more people and, in their mind, get more media attention than they could have otherwise gotten. 0.99

00:29:30.000 It's a macabre blaze of glory.

00:29:32.000 Okay, let's go to the second point.

00:29:35.000 The third point wasn't a third point.

00:29:36.000 I just like saying things in threes.

00:29:39.000 The second point was they were obsessed with the speed of the bullet of an AR-15.

00:29:43.000 They seem to have like a 30-odd 6 shell.

00:29:46.000 I have to admit, I hadn't heard that before.

00:29:49.000 That's a big danger, the speed of the bullet and the impact it makes.

00:29:52.000 Well, rifles, generally, the boats go faster out of rifles than they do out of handguns.

00:29:58.000 Even like a 22.

00:30:01.000 All rifles, the boats tend to go faster.

00:30:05.000 Oh, minor detail there, Scott Pelley.

00:30:08.000 Minor detail.

00:30:09.000 Right.

00:30:09.000 No, I mean, he makes it look like somehow these military-style rifles, these AR-15s, are, you know, somehow have some magical property that their bullets go much faster and do much more damage than any other rifle.

00:30:26.000 It's simply not true.

00:30:27.000 I mean, he could have used any rifle.

00:30:29.000 In fact, the cartridge for the 223 that the AR-15 uses is a fairly small rifle cartridge.

00:30:42.000 In fact, a lot of states won't even allow you to hunt deer with it because of the concern that it's more likely to wound rather than kill the deer.

00:30:52.000 So you have to use higher caliber rifles to go and hunt deer in those states.

00:30:58.000 It's so misleading.

00:30:59.000 They lied on that show.

00:31:01.000 That show said there's a secret military weapon.

00:31:03.000 They said the military has these M16s or whatever, and the civilians get the AR-15s.

00:31:09.000 The AR-15 is just your dad's deer rifle dressed up to look like a cool machine gun.

00:31:14.000 Right.

00:31:15.000 I mean, the key word is style when they say military style weapons.

00:31:20.000 As you say exactly, on the outside, it looks like an M16.

00:31:25.000 M16s have burst or automatic mode capabilities where they can essentially fire like a machine gun.

00:31:35.000 And, you know, but there's reasons why the military weapons are designed the way they are.

00:31:44.000 One of the reasons is, you know, lighter ammunition, people can go and carry more ammunition with them.

00:31:51.000 But one of the other reasons is that they're more likely to wound rather than kill your opponent.

00:31:59.000 And the benefit for a soldier of killing rather than wounding your opponent is it pins down the other troops that are there because they have to go and take care of the wounded opponent there.

00:32:13.000 So if they really want to go and kill people, they would use a higher caliber rifle than they're using.

00:32:20.000 Unbelievable.

00:32:21.000 You know, the propaganda that goes on now is so clearly partisan that that 60 minutes, which I assume, I don't know, a million, a couple million people watching.

00:32:30.000 Seven million.

00:32:31.000 It was the most watched show on Sunday.

00:32:33.000 How many?

00:32:34.000 Seven million.

00:32:36.000 Oh, my God.

00:32:38.000 It was the most watched show on Sunday on any TV show on Sunday.

00:32:43.000 And, you know, we're living in curious times.

00:32:45.000 How many people are going to say, wait a minute, isn't it the same speed of a bullet as a crappy 22 that you take deer hunting?

00:32:52.000 And isn't it impossible to gauge a pattern based on 2016 to 2019?

00:32:58.000 No one's going to say that.

00:32:59.000 Less than 1% of the population is going to look that up.

00:33:03.000 Well, they don't know it to begin with.

00:33:04.000 I mean, one of the other claims was that, you know, AR-15s, when they're used in these attacks, kill more people.

00:33:14.000 In fact, that's not true.

00:33:17.000 I mean, if you look at the mass public shootings since 1998, ones that used rifles on average killed about 13 people.

00:33:28.000 Ones that involved both rifles and handguns end up killing about 18 people in each attack.

00:33:36.000 So, you know, having multiple weapons there, a rifle and a handgun, end up killing more people than just these rifles alone.

00:33:49.000 So who knows?

00:33:50.000 But it's just...

00:33:55.000 They'll ban your dad's deer hunting rifle dressed up to look like a machine gun.

00:34:00.000 They'll ban the speed of the bullets somehow, and it won't affect mass shootings.

00:34:04.000 And this has already happened, right?

00:34:05.000 In Clinton days, we banned them.

00:34:08.000 Right.

00:34:09.000 No, I mean, there was an assault weapons ban that was in effect from 1994 through 2004.

00:34:16.000 You know, in fact, there have been lots of academic studies that have looked at that.

00:34:22.000 Even the Clinton administration paid for research on that.

00:34:26.000 And even the research that they found, they paid for, couldn't find an impact on mass public shootings or other types of crimes as a result of the ban that was in effect.

00:34:38.000 So about two-thirds of mass public shootings are handguns.

00:34:45.000 So the notion that somehow, if they want to go and ban all guns, we can talk about that.

00:34:52.000 But one of the things that doesn't get mentioned when we talk about gun bans is the fact that there have been a number of places around the world that have banned either all guns or all handguns.

00:35:06.000 And every single time that one of those bans has been implemented, murder rates have gone up.

00:35:14.000 Wrong.

00:35:14.000 Australia was very successful in 1996 after a mass shooting.

00:35:19.000 They had the smarts to buy back all the guns.

00:35:22.000 And mass shootings stopped.

00:35:24.000 There's been none since.

00:35:26.000 One, I was talking about murder rates generally, but the total number of people killed.

00:35:33.000 And what you found in Australia is that, first of all, they didn't ban guns.

00:35:38.000 They bought back about a third, less than a third of the legally owned guns.

00:35:44.000 But people could go and buy guns again after that.

00:35:46.000 And by 2010, the gun ownership rate in Australia, the percentage of the population with guns, was actually higher than it was before the buyback.

00:35:57.000 But there was no more mass shootings.

00:36:01.000 Well, recently there's been a couple attacks.

00:36:05.000 But look.

00:36:09.000 But also, that's mathematical illiteracy because they're saying that there was one attack and then another attack in 15 years and another attack.

00:36:17.000 And now in the past 10 years, there hasn't been.

00:36:19.000 We're talking about like four or five attacks.

00:36:21.000 They keep doing this with this statistics.

00:36:25.000 They'll take these very sporadic attacks and pretend there's a pattern to be formed.

00:36:29.000 Right.

00:36:30.000 So the other thing, the main things that they've focused on in Australia has been the claim that it's reduced gun murders, homicides, as well as firearm suicides.

00:36:42.000 The thing is, both of those were falling for about 15 years prior to the buyback.

00:36:50.000 They continue to fall after, but at a slower rate.

00:36:53.000 So, you know, you can think of it this way.

00:36:54.000 Let's say I'd had firearm homicides falling in a perfectly straight line, and then I had the buyback someplace in the middle.

00:37:05.000 It continued falling exactly the same rate.

00:37:07.000 I suppose most people would look at it and they'd say, well, you know, the after average is below the before average, but when I look at the perfectly straight line there, I'd say, it's pretty hard to see that the law had any impact.

00:37:20.000 Everybody in these discussions are just comparing the before and after average.

00:37:24.000 In fact, though, what you found is that it started falling at a slower rate right after the buyback occurred.

00:37:33.000 And, you know, what you should have seen if these arguments were right, we should have seen an immediate sharp drop.

00:37:40.000 And then as gun ownership rates went back up, you should have seen those rates going back up.

00:37:45.000 It doesn't follow the pattern at all that one would have thought if you had actually looked at the numbers there.

00:37:51.000 Well, the EPA does this too.

00:37:52.000 They go, look, the air is cleaner after we arrived.

00:37:55.000 Yeah, but it was a 45-degree line the whole time.

00:37:57.000 Your dot is just plunked in the middle.

00:37:59.000 No, it's true for lots of things.

00:37:59.000 Right.

00:38:01.000 You look at any type of accidental death.

00:38:03.000 Any type of accidental death is falling over time.

00:38:06.000 There are reasons for that that we can talk about.

00:38:09.000 But so you look at something like car deaths per million miles driven.

00:38:15.000 We basically have data from 1920.

00:38:18.000 It's falling virtually the entire time from 1920 on.

00:38:24.000 But the first federal laws regulations, the National Traffic Highway, I can't remember the exact name, in 1963 or four that was passed.

00:38:36.000 There are regulations going into effect in 1967.

00:38:40.000 In fact, when those regulations went into effect, the rate of decline slowed dramatically.

00:38:46.000 There's a simple reason for that.

00:38:48.000 You know, again, everybody just looks at the before and after average.

00:38:51.000 They could have picked any year.

00:38:52.000 They could have picked 1930, 1940, 1950, 1960, well before any regulations, and the after average Would have been below the before average.

00:39:02.000 The reason why it slowed down is because companies continually have been putting in safety devices in their cars, you know, collapsible steering columns, shatterproof glass, other things.

00:39:18.000 But when the federal government and seatbelts, when the federal government got involved, the federal government just doesn't say put in airbags.

00:39:26.000 The federal government says you have to put in airbags and you have to make them in exactly this way and you have to go and install them in exactly this way.

00:39:35.000 And so what happened was automobile companies in the past would have put in airbags, but now they have to wait for the federal government to tell them exactly how to do it because if, you know, it's very costly for them to do all the machining and the tools and everything else.

00:39:51.000 And then when the federal government, you know, a couple years later would come back and say, this is exactly how we want you to do that, they'd have to rip up all their machinery and replace it.

00:40:01.000 And that's very costly.

00:40:02.000 So now they wait for the federal government to go and tell them exactly how to do it.

00:40:07.000 And government is really fast at doing lots of things.

00:40:12.000 Not as fast as companies when they have their money at stake.

00:40:16.000 Exactly.

00:40:17.000 And so it actually slowed down the process of having new life-saving devices put in cars.

00:40:25.000 Free market's always better than the government.

00:40:28.000 John, we're out of time.

00:40:29.000 Thank you so much for explaining the truth to people.

00:40:32.000 I just worry that the incurious are not going to get here.

00:40:37.000 Well, that's the reason why we have shows such as yours out there.

00:40:41.000 You know, I don't know.

00:40:42.000 I mean, I wish places like CBS, you know, 7 million people watching.

00:40:49.000 And it's just, you know, it's just propaganda.

00:40:52.000 Propaganda.

00:40:54.000 And my guess is that the entire gun control debate that we have right now would be dramatically different if only a couple things happened.

00:41:01.000 If once in a while, the media would mention we've had another mass public shooting in places where guns were banned.

00:41:08.000 And also on our website at crimeresearch.org, we have dozens of cases in recent years where people with concealed carry permits have stopped what police or sheriffs or prosecutors have said would have been mass public shootings.

00:41:22.000 Never mentioned.

00:41:24.000 And yet they don't get national news coverage.

00:41:26.000 All right, John, thanks for coming on the show.

00:41:26.000 Never.

00:41:28.000 Let's check in with you soon.

00:41:28.000 I really appreciate it.

00:41:30.000 Thank you.

00:41:30.000 Thanks, buddy.

00:41:33.000 A lot of info with John, but it's crucial.

00:41:36.000 And the reason I think that it's, I don't care how you feel about guns, the reason it's important to sit there and listen to John talk about 60 Minutes.

00:41:44.000 Have you got some of those 60 Minutes clips?

00:41:46.000 Is that it should make you question, well, wait a minute, what about the other stuff I'm hearing on the news?

00:41:51.000 It sounds so well-informed.

00:41:53.000 When I watched that episode of 60 Minutes, they seemed to know what they were talking about.

00:41:58.000 And I thought, wait a minute, is John Lott wrong?

00:42:01.000 I got to call him immediately.

00:42:02.000 And then you start to smell a rat because you go, wait a minute, I have a rifle.

00:42:06.000 I have that.

00:42:06.000 And they show this deadly shell that this AR-15s, these AR-15s have.

00:42:11.000 And you go, wait a minute, that's the shell I have for my stupid old man shotgun that I have. 0.99

00:42:16.000 My rifle, my Huntsman 30Od6. 1.00

00:42:19.000 That's got super bullets?

00:42:21.000 No, they're called rifle bullets. 1.00

00:42:24.000 Dumbass. 1.00

00:42:27.000 Can you pull that up? 1.00

00:42:30.000 The 60 minutes?

00:42:31.000 I've never had the experience.

00:42:34.000 Not with any kind of weapon like that.

00:42:35.000 I was looking at my phone.

00:42:37.000 I heard that and I was like, what do you mean you never had the experience?

00:42:40.000 It's called click the link and show the video.

00:42:45.000 It's not new, dude!

00:42:48.000 That's a cop.

00:42:49.000 Shattering concrete.

00:42:51.000 You can only imagine what it does to a human body.

00:42:54.000 The police estimate that he fired about 450 rounds.

00:43:00.000 Oh, I believe it.

00:43:01.000 I saw the damage it did.

00:43:03.000 I saw all the holes in the church.

00:43:06.000 From one side to the other.

00:43:07.000 The holes in the church.

00:43:08.000 The pews, the concrete, the carpet.

00:43:10.000 Now, I'm not trivializing these deaths.

00:43:12.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:43:13.000 But it's clearly not an informative news show.

00:43:16.000 It's clearly biased.

00:43:18.000 The holes in the church.

00:43:21.000 They love that quote when he said that, too.

00:43:23.000 They went, that's a winner.

00:43:24.000 Keep it.

00:43:26.000 Let's put that in the click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click intro.

00:43:29.000 They have a scene in it where they show gelatin.

00:43:32.000 Who's paying for all this, by the way?

00:43:33.000 They have these two big blocks that...

00:43:35.000 Look.

00:43:36.000 This is an AR-15 military gun.

00:43:39.000 It's three times faster and struck with more than twice the force.

00:43:44.000 Yeah, all rifles are!

00:43:45.000 The AR-15 bullet blasted a large cavity in the gel, unlike the bullet from the handgun.

00:43:51.000 Wow, there's a difference.

00:43:55.000 You can see right away.

00:43:56.000 Look at him.

00:43:56.000 Exactly.

00:43:57.000 There's fragments in here.

00:43:59.000 There's kind of took a curve and came out.

00:44:02.000 You can see a much larger area in terms of the fractures that are inside.

00:44:09.000 Now watch from above.

00:44:10.000 On top, the handgun.

00:44:12.000 I'm sorry to laugh, but the AR-15.

00:44:14.000 The melodrama is just so naive.

00:44:16.000 You know what Scott never shot a gun?

00:44:18.000 It's tumbling.

00:44:19.000 So what happens is this particular round is designed to tumble and break apart.

00:44:25.000 The 9mm handgun round has a larger bullet, but this AR-15 round has more gunpowder, accelerating its velocity.

00:44:34.000 Both the round and the rifle were designed in the 1950s for the military.

00:44:39.000 The result was the AR-16 for our troops and the AR-15 for civilians.

00:44:45.000 There's going to be a lot more damage to the tissue.

00:44:47.000 Okay, that's enough.

00:44:48.000 That's making me mad.

00:44:50.000 They weren't both designed in the 50s.

00:44:52.000 In the 50s, they designed a cool gun for war, and then gun companies noticed when you mimic that shape, you end up like you might as well say water pistols that are like that were both designed in the 50s by the military.

00:45:06.000 They're trying to mimic the cool military gun because it looks awesome.

00:45:11.000 We designed one gun for the military, the other gun to blow holes in a church with super bullets.

00:45:19.000 What are you trying to...

00:45:22.000 Like, what's your goal, Scott?

00:45:24.000 Is it to stop mass shootings?

00:45:26.000 Because if it was, you would have had someone like John Lott on the show.

00:45:30.000 All right, I'm sorry, we're almost out of time, and I'm still trying to get James O'Keefe on the show.

00:45:36.000 It's not looking good.

00:45:37.000 But let's just talk about James O'Keefe.

00:45:39.000 I sent you a bunch of stuff about him, and then if he magically appears, that'll be wonderful.

00:45:43.000 Let me see if he's emailed me.

00:45:44.000 I know it's not professional to be checking one's phone when you're doing a show, but I had my engineer vanish today.

00:45:56.000 So this is not your average show.

00:45:58.000 The show will go on, though, and tomorrow will be perfectly normal.

00:46:02.000 A live show.

00:46:03.000 I guess I got to figure out when I'm going to do it, right?

00:46:05.000 Maybe 2 p.m.

00:46:08.000 We'll be taking calls.

00:46:08.000 2 p.m.

00:46:10.000 It'll be a free audio podcast on iTunes, and it'll be a live vidcast on free speech.tv.

00:46:17.000 But yeah.

00:46:21.000 James O'Keefe sent people to infiltrate Google.

00:46:25.000 And he's got, there's some guy named Robbie Suove, Rico Suave.

00:46:30.000 Milo told me not to use that moniker because it's too flattering.

00:46:33.000 But Robbie Suve is, he's always on Tucker Carlson.

00:46:38.000 He wrote a book about mass hysteria with social justice warriors.

00:46:42.000 And I thought, this guy seems cool.

00:46:43.000 Then he puts out this tweet where he says, don't trust James O'Keefe.

00:46:48.000 I saw him at a rally.

00:46:50.000 There it is.

00:46:51.000 I once caught, I caught you, James.

00:46:54.000 I once caught James O'Keefe at a pro-Bernie rally pretending to be an irate supporter of Hillary Clinton.

00:46:59.000 Please do not take his deceptively edited videos seriously.

00:47:02.000 Why is Robbie Sauve, however you say his name, standing up for Google?

00:47:08.000 I want to back Google on this.

00:47:10.000 Big tech.

00:47:11.000 James O'Keefe is being too mean to big tech. 0.99

00:47:13.000 I wonder if he's fucking the girl in the video. 0.99

00:47:16.000 I wouldn't be surprised, huh? 1.00

00:47:18.000 That smells of sex. 1.00

00:47:20.000 It reeks of sex. 1.00

00:47:21.000 This tweet reeks of sex. 1.00

00:47:24.000 Because it was a chick in the video. 1.00

00:47:25.000 Do you have the video?

00:47:26.000 Sorry to.

00:47:27.000 I don't think I sent that to you.

00:47:28.000 She's got like beers behind her. 1.00

00:47:30.000 She's had a few.

00:47:31.000 And she's conceding that we were too free speech, we were too parlay, too parlor in 2016, and it helped Trump get elected.

00:47:40.000 We're never making that same mistake again.

00:47:42.000 No, sir.

00:47:43.000 Now we're altering the algorithms to make sure.

00:47:46.000 We're tampering with the election.

00:47:49.000 Trump said that.

00:47:50.000 Have you got that dialogue too?

00:47:52.000 I'm giving you a lot of workload.

00:47:53.000 And don't say that you have no experience with this again.

00:47:58.000 You have plenty of experience for crying out loud.

00:48:01.000 Don't put on a weird southern accent and say you've never done this before.

00:48:08.000 I got this little clip of the Jen Ganal. 0.99

00:48:12.000 Is Robbie Sovere fucking Jen Ganal? 0.99

00:48:15.000 'Cause he can do a lot better. 0.99

00:48:16.000 They're not objective piece.

00:48:17.000 They're not an objective source of information.

00:48:20.000 But then there are teams.

00:48:23.000 It's about ML Fairness.

00:48:25.000 ML Fairness?

00:48:26.000 Sadness.

00:48:27.000 You need to be sad.

00:48:29.000 We're also training our algorithms.

00:48:31.000 If 2016 happened again, would we...

00:48:33.000 She's a three. 0.80

00:48:34.000 It couldn't be different.

00:48:36.000 All right, that's enough.

00:48:38.000 No, the company, we showed that in the last show, the company that censors conservatives is called ML Fairness.

00:48:44.000 The Fairness Squad is responsible for shutting down free speech at Google. 0.98

00:48:50.000 Now, I know the Hitler thing, where they dub him losing his temper, has been done to death.

00:48:56.000 But it's been done so to death that it's like the stones in satisfaction.

00:49:01.000 And if some chick, like Alanis Morris said, is going to do an acoustic cover of it, it's now pleasant.

00:49:08.000 So this is, I know you're bored of these, but give me some time here.

00:49:12.000 This is the best Hitler overdub I've ever seen, and it involves what you just saw, that chick spilling the beans, that she did the that it was her fault. 0.91

00:49:24.000 I mean, sorry that she sent me a switch question. 0.98

00:49:26.000 You may have to kill me in this. 0.91

00:49:28.000 ...for hide me. 0.99

00:49:31.000 With the attack of Steiners will that all in order come. 1.00

00:49:44.000 ...my Führer, Steiner...

00:49:50.000 Steiner konnte nicht genügend Kräfte für einen Angriff massieren.

00:49:56.000 Der Angriff Steiner ist nicht erfolgt.

00:49:59.000 ...

00:50:34.000 Das war ein Befehl!

00:50:37.000 Der Angriff Steiner, das war ein Befehl!

00:50:40.000 Wer schickt Sie?

00:50:42.000 Das hier ist Martin!

00:50:43.000 Sie ist mein Befehl zu widersetzen!

00:50:45.000 Oh, mein, ich wäre einfach gekommen.

00:50:49.000 Dann bin ich sehr an der Feriode!

00:50:53.000 Jeder hat mich verlogen, sogar die Aussage! 0.82

00:50:56.000 Die gesamte Generalität ist nicht zweiter als ein Haufen niederzweißiger, treuloser Feiglinge!

00:51:02.000 Mein Führer, ich kann nicht zulassen, dass die Soldaten die für Sie verblieben...

00:51:05.000 ...die Statt Feiglinge verreicht ein Versager!

00:51:08.000 Mein Führer, was Sie da sagen, ist ungeheuerlich!

00:51:10.000 Die Generalität ist doch der Geschmacks des deutschen Volkes!

00:51:14.000 Sie ist ohne Ehre! 0.68

00:51:16.000 Sie nennen sich Generale, weil Sie Jahre auf Militärakademien zugebracht haben, nur um zu lernen, wie man Messer und Gabel hält!

00:51:26.000 Jahrelang hat das Militärmeleaktion nur behigert!

00:51:31.000 Es hat mit denen nur ein Widerstand in den Weg gelegt!

00:51:36.000 Ich hätte gut daran getan, von Jahren alle Höroffiziere liquidieren zu lassen, wie Stalin! 0.93

00:51:49.000 Ich war nie auf einer Akademie!

00:51:52.000 Und doch habe ich allein, allein auf mich gestellt, ganzer Rapper erobert!

00:51:59.000 Verräter!

00:52:05.000 Von allem Anfang an, wenn diese Verracken...

00:52:08.000 Nein, das sind auch...

00:52:10.000 Pretty good, huh?

00:52:11.000 I think we have to stop doing those now, folks who do the Hitler closed caption. 0.82

00:52:15.000 It's That was perfect.

00:52:17.000 And the thing I liked about it, too, is: am I the only one when I was seeing that woman with the beer bottles behind her blabber all of Google's secret? 1.00

00:52:25.000 You were thinking, ladies and their liquor, ladies and their power. 1.00

00:52:29.000 Why do you keep making them CEOs? 0.53

00:52:31.000 Is it a coincidence that the second that Vice Shane Smith, my old buddy, my childhood friend, stepped down and replaced his position with a broad, they started going, layoffs, layoffs, layoffs.

00:52:47.000 I need my weekends.

00:52:48.000 That's when I do my Game of Thrones on my Netflix.

00:52:50.000 If there's a problem, do not call me till Monday.

00:52:52.000 Okay.

00:52:53.000 But we're going under.

00:52:54.000 We're sinking.

00:52:58.000 Okay, we're out of time here.

00:53:00.000 We're in overtime.

00:53:01.000 I don't think we're going to get James on this show.

00:53:03.000 I'm texting him as he's doing other interviews.

00:53:05.000 He's obviously a hot topic because number one, did you see this?

00:53:10.000 Number one topic in Drudge.

00:53:11.000 It's funny how Robbie Sove, who seems to have a penchant for dogs, saying, don't listen to this.

00:53:18.000 He's pretending to be someone else.

00:53:20.000 That's what undercover journalism is, dude.

00:53:23.000 They're never going to tell you their secrets to your face.

00:53:26.000 And why is it the number one story on Drudge?

00:53:30.000 Insider reveals Google plan to prevent Trump's situation in 2020.

00:53:34.000 Oh, it's number two also.

00:53:36.000 Manipulating algorithm.

00:53:38.000 It's number three.

00:53:39.000 Wait a minute.

00:53:40.000 All of these stories are James.

00:53:42.000 Corporate media ignores YouTube polls video.

00:53:44.000 Yeah, YouTube had a video about it that they pulled.

00:53:48.000 I mean, there was a video, Project Veritas had a YouTube video that they pulled.

00:53:52.000 Google execs delete social media.

00:53:55.000 That's why I showed you that Hitler thing as long as I did. 0.99

00:53:58.000 I don't normally play videos out that long, but it's just so perfect.

00:54:04.000 And we'll end the show with Trump.

00:54:06.000 Let me just make triple sure I'm not getting Jamesy.

00:54:08.000 He's just going to say what we just said.

00:54:12.000 Let's end the show with that.

00:54:13.000 I sent you that thing of Trump.

00:54:14.000 I don't know what that's from, but someone sent me a transcript of Trump talking about all this.

00:54:23.000 And it was Trump saying, look, you're looking for collusion.

00:54:26.000 You're looking for Russia. 0.97

00:54:27.000 You're looking for someone tampering with our elections.

00:54:30.000 It's right next door.

00:54:31.000 It's right next door at Google and Parlor and Apple.

00:54:38.000 They're all big tech is in bed with the DNC, is in bed in Antifa, and they're playing dirty pool.

00:54:45.000 You saw what happened yesterday with Google.

00:54:46.000 Google was totally biased.

00:54:48.000 You know, like they talk about Russia because they have some bloggers.

00:54:51.000 I'm going to do my terrible Trump.

00:54:52.000 And by the way, frankly, some of those bloggers were going both ways.

00:54:56.000 They were for Clinton and for Trump.

00:54:58.000 That's true.

00:54:59.000 There was Russian interference, but it went both ways.

00:55:02.000 Well, somebody at Google said they want what happened in 2016 to happen in 2020.

00:55:05.000 They want it to happen again.

00:55:06.000 Let me tell you, they're trying to rig the election.

00:55:09.000 That's what we should be looking at.

00:55:11.000 Not the phony witch hunt.

00:55:12.000 That's the greatest political disgrace in history.

00:55:14.000 They should be sued.

00:55:15.000 This is the president of the United States.

00:55:18.000 Our stories are relevant, folks.

00:55:20.000 What's happening with the bias?

00:55:21.000 And now you see that with the executive yesterday from the Google, the hatred for Republicans.

00:55:25.000 It's not even like it's lean Democrat, the hatred.

00:55:28.000 And actually, I heard that during my election.

00:55:30.000 They were swamping.

00:55:31.000 And then what does he say?

00:55:32.000 Us with negative stuff.

00:55:36.000 We had James on a few days ago.

00:55:38.000 Told you it was a big story.

00:55:40.000 Now, frankly, the president's getting involved.

00:55:43.000 Keep drifting into Ronald Reagan when I try to do Trump.

00:55:46.000 Well.

00:55:48.000 All right, folks.

00:55:49.000 That's it.

00:55:50.000 That's the show. 0.60

00:55:51.000 I'll try to find out what happened with my incompetent sidekick. 0.76

Get Off My Lawn - Gavin McInnes - June 27, 2019

S02E28 - TAKE THIS JOB AND SHOVE IT

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