House Arrest - Ep. 8 - House Arrest with Chris & Tamara

00:00:00.000 good morning hello how's it going

00:00:30.000 i'm doing good how are you how was the week house arrest oh my gosh it was actually pretty

00:00:35.680 good lots of lots of driving and lots of sitting but yeah my friend actually came out to the cabin

00:00:42.240 on saturday morning to have coffee with me and she gave me a two-hour massage so it was it's

00:00:47.760 actually been quite fabulous i can't complain nice yeah sunday is that the six hours of leisure time

00:00:55.360 and so i think i booked a spot in uh self-care on on sunday there's one little massage parlor

00:01:00.960 that's open and i think we're gonna go do couples massages and oh six hours of leisure time six

00:01:07.680 hours yes wow you're so lucky no i haven't been offered any leisure time but i do have to say

00:01:19.040 she's been pretty good about you know let it like not letting me go because the judge put that in

00:01:22.800 in the order but she's been pretty good about you know making changes on the fly obviously we're in

00:01:27.920 a very rural area so you know changes had to be made things came up we did have one emergency

00:01:33.900 there one morning where Sierra had to take the baby to the to emerge in the morning just for an

00:01:38.620 eye infection but I you know so I had to I had to head up to the farm before my scheduled time but

00:01:44.080 I just had to email her and let her know and so that went good and and obviously we're pre-recording

00:01:49.340 our show today because i may be in ontario tomorrow flying there for some work training so

00:01:56.580 hopefully um within the next few weeks there'll be an announcement coming out about that good

00:02:02.460 i can't wait a little bit of exciting news hey yeah it is and you how's your week been we haven't

00:02:08.940 really talked that much this week it's been a busy week uh i have done like no trucking but a lot of

00:02:14.380 fixing in the shop we've been the weather's been kind of off here so i sent a couple trucks up to

00:02:18.840 Saskatoon yesterday, I think it was, and they had to turn around.

00:02:22.000 The weather was kind of bad up there, and hauling a combine when you're 18 feet wide

00:02:25.840 in a snowstorm is not a good thing, and so many people were in the ditch the last couple

00:02:29.660 of days, so I felt it was best just to, we had a shop day.

00:02:32.800 We had a shop weekend.

00:02:34.100 Jonathan's truck is actually on its own power in Swift Current right now.

00:02:38.180 It had a safety today.

00:02:40.460 He's just washing it up and bringing it home.

00:02:42.500 It did not pass safety.

00:02:43.800 There's a few issues there.

00:02:44.860 I was just reading through the list of stuff that got emailed to me.

00:02:47.280 um back mount on the transmission is uh is not fitting properly it's the little stuff that we

00:02:52.540 missed but that's why the government has these six month inspections for commercial vehicles

00:02:56.040 and uh we they went through with comb and and we will inspect we'll probably be out in the shop

00:03:01.380 all night tonight fixing and get nothing ready for its uh stickers so exciting that's really

00:03:06.080 that is exciting oh my gosh considering it doesn't seem like that accident was that long ago so you

00:03:11.760 guys have really been giving her for sure over the moon oh it looks so good too and he's got

00:03:18.300 his uh zero right front end on it and uh everything's all tuned up proper and prim

00:03:22.920 and it looks absolutely amazing so i'm happy for him finally yeah and how's everything been going

00:03:30.140 with your probation officer oh good just uh yeah the scheduling part really sucks but

00:03:38.060 and uh yeah i'm gonna make a run to wisconsin probably next week for for a tractor that's up

00:03:44.200 and um and i got a couple loads on friday one of my customers wants a barn moved so i'll be

00:03:50.780 a bow island it's a prefab barn building it's like 40 feet long and 16 feet wide with an open floor

00:03:56.840 so sits on the step deck and i'll have a couple pilot escort vehicles with me and

00:04:01.580 we'll uh we'll go get it done he was i talked to him this morning he's pretty excited to hear

00:04:05.700 the big red will be actually hauling it so when I looked at my schedule here today when she emailed 0.61

00:04:11.220 it to me it stated that I was to be confined at home on Friday and I thought oh shit and actually 0.64

00:04:15.680 how did that get messed up so I did notice on the bottom of my curfew order instructions though it 0.62

00:04:21.340 says Christopher Barber has been given permission by the court to to be at his residence and land

00:04:26.500 surrounding his residence land locations are provided in the list below currently this will

00:04:32.920 be the home location and he will be able to travel to his parents house to assist them with

00:04:39.240 their needs including snow removal and whatever basically whatever else they need so like right

00:04:46.380 from the perfect so um i can you know if mom and dad need help at the farm i'm able to go up there

00:04:52.160 we haven't had enough snow yet i cleaned my yard out but dad said his yard was still good so

00:04:56.360 if it keeps them right now i'll head up there with the skid stair and clean the yard out later so

00:05:01.000 nice yeah there's supposed to be a pile of snow coming sierra well where we were just

00:05:06.380 at in manitoba they're getting hammered out there right now the buses weren't running this morning

00:05:10.460 and yeah so we left in good time because everybody's sick out there freezing rain

00:05:16.120 yesterday it was pretty gross here lots of trucks in the ditch

00:05:18.920 well like i said i'm supposed to be driving to calgary at five i can't leave till five because

00:05:25.280 that is in my curfew thing that uh it's supposed to rain and slow snow here soon so hopefully it

00:05:32.080 just holds off so i can get there anyhow i think by the looks of it we've got one big cell and

00:05:36.820 radar right now that's going over us right now and then we're probably clear sailing after that so

00:05:42.020 oh good we'll see winter time i thought we were supposed to have a mild winter until january but

00:05:47.360 it's uh it's kind of kicking us in the rear end here the last couple days so i can't believe it's

00:05:52.520 already january next month but that leaves me with just 12 months left really because i mine

00:05:58.740 will be up due to my time served credit in january of next year so look at how fast this is flying by

00:06:06.340 we're going to be out on the streets again in no time 10 more months and then you come and visit

00:06:10.840 me i'll be under curfew or for curfew for six months after so october of 2026 um my my house

00:06:21.120 arrest will end and then the curfew will start so i just need to be home from 10 to 5 a.m every night

00:06:26.000 i guess for six months so we figured the time that it will be may 6th of 2027 before my life

00:06:33.120 can get back to normal so can you wait for your life to get more people say that our lives will

00:06:36.880 never be the same again but i i don't even know what normal is anymore at this point what's normal

00:06:44.560 this is normal i mean somebody asked me that not long ago they're like i can't even imagine like

00:06:49.440 how you get through every day and how you do this and how you do that but i guess that's just your

00:06:53.440 life now and i was like yeah like you're right that is just my life now like every day i wake up

00:06:58.960 and i have to think about all this stuff or you know there's lots to i don't know but it is it

00:07:05.120 is it's our life now so um is there a party which is you know and i get i get asked this question

00:07:12.480 every now and then if would you regret would you do it again um knowing what we know now and the

00:07:20.020 amount of hate we've received um does the hate versus the love does the love supersede the hate

00:07:27.080 i guess is what my question is well absolutely i i think absolutely it does and i mean somebody

00:07:36.480 had to do something and unfortunately it was left to us i mean we stood by and waited for

00:07:43.120 well doctors did say something and they got cancelled fired and smeared and lost their

00:07:48.320 licenses and and the rest of them wouldn't speak up i mean we waited for all these i thought all

00:07:53.920 of these professional organizations that are way smarter than me you know would step up and try to

00:07:59.160 stop this and nobody did and you know for the life of me i don't know why i guess because

00:08:04.780 you know everybody i think is always afraid of losing something and maybe they have more to i

00:08:10.380 have nothing like i have nothing to lose myself i mean you have a farm and a business and you know

00:08:16.060 like you have you're risking even more than i am so but don't you feel a point in this country when

00:08:21.940 you know if you have to lose everything to make a point is that worth your children's future like

00:08:29.560 I know my family in particular is very proud of what we've done as a group, what we've done as a group.

00:08:37.560 And knowing that I have a lot of support behind me, then that pushes me going forward on it.

00:08:43.180 I think one of the hardest things I've had to deal with in the last four years, you know, we can get hate from the left.

00:08:48.480 You know, the people that are opposed to us and the pro-vaccine and the pro-mask and pro-government tells us what to do all the time.

00:08:55.340 one of the biggest things i think i have the hardest things i've had to face is the amount

00:08:59.560 of hate from within our own you know basically movement right i i got this chart sent to me last

00:09:07.540 night from somebody from like 2019 that our names are on this chart and it's a big bubble chart of

00:09:14.320 you know how convoy started and and it started in 2019 apparently and our names are listed on this

00:09:21.380 and then it goes through all of our names like everybody's name is on this even people that i

00:09:25.920 don't know and it gives a chart of how we are and where we all detoured and you know where we became

00:09:31.700 government operatives and i know you've seen it i've seen it again last night and i thought do

00:09:35.600 these people ever quit trying to come up with these conspiracy theories against people that

00:09:40.420 i never intended or you're right no it's ridiculous i mean we were all there for

00:09:48.580 we were all there to try and stop something and like you said I mean there was a time

00:09:53.860 when we were in Ottawa where I was convinced that you know we would all be having Christmases and

00:09:58.560 holidays together and you know camping together in the summer and like all of them everyone I just

00:10:04.840 I felt like we were just this huge big family and you know in some cases true colors were revealed

00:10:10.500 right away and in other cases um you know it's it continues to this day and it's it actually makes

00:10:17.860 me more sad than anything because i just sorry that's my doorbell there's an amazon package but

00:10:23.360 it can wait um i think yeah he just he just delivered it you know i there's so much to

00:10:32.420 talk about and there's so much to unpack with this and i've been really thinking about you know

00:10:36.320 if if i should address it how i should address it um and you and i have talked about this too

00:10:41.900 i mean there's absolutely no reason for it um we're not you and me are not on social media

00:10:49.200 disparaging others calling them names making accusations and like weird threats and i mean

00:10:57.260 because that's just not who we are yeah um i mean and in pat's case i'm just going to say his name

00:11:03.940 in pat's case like he hasn't reached out to you and or i one time privately to try and have a

00:11:10.040 conversation which tells me immediately that this is just more drama you know if you're really

00:11:15.760 serious about settling it's like it would have been like going to visit candace bergen at the

00:11:20.640 convoy for a 10-minute photo op that's all it was it was not going to be a meaningful conversation

00:11:25.540 and you know i wish all of these guys the best i really do i don't wish them any ill will i i i

00:11:32.320 wish them the best i hope they get all the success in the world um i i know that a lot of them pat

00:11:38.240 included has suffered um look at all the time he did in jail so i don't do not disparage him

00:11:43.640 i wish him the best i wish him good luck in all of his future projects as far as like

00:11:49.120 uniting and working together like i just can't figure out what that even means like for what

00:11:54.760 i'm not fighting against anybody um there's certainly people that you and i came across

00:12:00.120 and worked with during the convoy that i wouldn't work again with again ever anyways but that doesn't

00:12:05.460 mean I'm going to work against them that just means I'm just going to let them do their thing

00:12:09.280 and we can do our thing I think the other part of that situation too we should bring up is a lot of

00:12:16.460 this stuff is all drama driven and social media driven for clicks and likes and it's it's 100%

00:12:22.520 want to take us if I send somebody a private message and that private message is then

00:12:28.060 screenshotted and thrown on social media for everyone to see I don't trust that person anymore

00:12:33.800 I don't and if you're gonna know yeah it's trust is broken and trust is earned not given

00:12:39.280 and especially when it comes to recordings too if somebody wants to sit down and have a

00:12:43.140 conversation with me I will you know pour my sorrow soul out if that's what you is that's

00:12:47.860 what you're looking for but if you're going to record those conversations and and use it against

00:12:52.560 me down the road somewhere which people have done I don't trust that anymore yeah I think it's

00:12:58.700 disgusting that people are you know a conversation to be held on social media i i believe i i watched

00:13:05.060 a little bit of it on friday night two people got together and had a conversation and it was

00:13:09.300 absolutely vile to listen to the stuff that they threw back and forth at each other over the

00:13:13.160 misconceptions of freedom convoy and and for what i mean social media i guess i just don't i just i

00:13:20.360 just don't get what the what the win is here i mean i appreciate everything that everybody did

00:13:26.680 that went to ottawa in 2022 nobody in my opinion is more or less important than anybody else because

00:13:32.820 everybody had a part to play every single person and so why can't we just appreciate that instead

00:13:38.600 of trying to divide everyone over who i mean pardon my language but it feels more like a

00:13:43.820 swinging dick competition than anything else and i'm just not interested in drama i just want to

00:13:48.580 you know serve my sentence um be a good citizen help other people if i can and and that includes 0.73

00:13:55.780 them i mean i i i've got no problem advocating for help for their legal funds or for whatever

00:14:00.940 they need but um my opinion is we weren't friends before and we don't need to be friends now but we

00:14:06.740 don't have to work against each other either you know what i'm saying and that's the sad part and

00:14:12.060 i wish that that petty bullshit would stop and it needs to quit like right now if you had a positive

00:14:17.200 experience in ottawa during the protest and you should probably speak about that but if you had 0.97

00:14:20.780 a negative experience and you have all these hurt feelings right now obviously you don't have

00:14:25.540 something positive to talk about so like my mother's always said if you don't have anything

00:14:29.660 nice to say don't say anything at all that's right exactly

00:14:33.900 reality of it and it seems like you know i had this conversation with a little while somebody

00:14:40.600 said you know when you order a new equipment trailer which is my business is hauling equipment

00:14:45.140 you put an order in on a trailer usually eight months to a year before you actually take ownership

00:14:50.840 of that trailer they build it and so i put an order in for a new uh equipment trailer in uh

00:14:56.780 i believe it was the fall of 2021 and i took ownership of that new trailer and i want to say

00:15:03.000 it was may of 2022 i've had to explain to people out here because they're like oh chris bought that

00:15:09.500 trailer with convoy money it's a corporation it's my company it is a lease agreement that i have with

00:15:17.540 with the financing company and i have a lease payment on that trailer every month that's how

00:15:23.280 i make my money i don't i shouldn't have to be accountable to some of these people out here who

00:15:28.740 grasp like that when it comes to how i run my business or what i do and that's exactly where

00:15:33.620 we are now now they expect me it's like i owe them something i'm i'm sorry but i don't know

00:15:38.820 anything well and somebody i think it was just a bot anyway so i shouldn't have even responded but

00:15:45.400 somebody had put something up on twitter today or sorry x about about the money again and i and

00:15:50.040 i just thought you know two things number one um it's a google search um and so if you truly

00:15:57.700 are concerned about where that money is you're actually going to put in five seconds of effort

00:16:02.940 and search it up if you did that secondly you would find that that is probably the most

00:16:09.140 investigated money in canadian history it has been investigated by the rcmp by the ontario

00:16:15.700 provincial police um by cesus by fin track by the government of canada by ottawa city police like it

00:16:23.220 i mean and and so if you're still hammering away on that um obviously you don't care or

00:16:29.620 and you're just a troll all that information is out there the people that are making all

00:16:33.860 these wild accusations are the ones that have something to hide that's usually my experience

00:16:37.700 with things like that but yeah i've been accused of spending it on some things too but it wasn't

00:16:43.300 trailers i think we had a saying for it but i don't think we can say it on this show yeah

00:16:50.340 people will continue to grasp and everything i mean my gosh i've worked hard for my whole life

00:16:54.500 and uh and built a business cb trucking will be 20 years old next june believe it wow that's kind

00:17:01.300 of cool and uh my uh the girl looks after my website kim she made a calendar for big red

00:17:09.140 oh great yes i saw this on a video yeah even like yeah we got 12 months here and zippy's in there

00:17:18.820 one of my favorite uh pictures it's got jay's truck in here one of my favorite pictures

00:17:24.900 was diesel photography in miscue a few years ago truck show so i think we actually we got

00:17:30.820 a lot of people out there requesting these and we we got a hundred made they sold really fast

00:17:35.140 and then people were kind of upset because they didn't get a chance to get them so we purchased

00:17:39.620 another hundred from the printing company and we're going to put those on the website

00:17:43.380 they'll be up and i'll i'll put it up on the uh i can put it up in here and we can put big red

00:17:49.220 merch.ca and if you go to big red merch.ca it'll take you to the trucking company website and up

00:17:55.140 in the corner top menu there is a button there and it'll take you to the store so uh take a peek at

00:18:00.100 that and take us around there's some different stickers and hoodies you can

00:18:04.360 get the fringe stickers that are over my shoulder there is some big grid mm-hmm

00:18:08.560 I know I just found this hoodie I thought I lost it and I was just about

00:18:12.760 to let you know that I needed a new hoodie and fantastic yeah that's pretty

00:18:23.260 awesome yeah well this was obviously a pre-recorded episode because Tamara is

00:18:31.600 going to probably be busy on Thursday night so we thought we'd sit down on

00:18:34.480 Wednesday afternoon and and put it up so there'll be no comments on this one or

00:18:39.160 live chat on this one of course but that'll be for next week and I'll

00:18:42.280 probably be stuck in the truck somewhere if I got to go down to Rishi in

00:18:45.860 Wisconsin I'll probably leave next week and and I load a little keys tractor

00:18:50.500 probably Wednesday, Thursday and make my way up. Of course, I have the forfeiture hearing on Big Red

00:18:54.680 on Friday, December 19th. And in that quarter, we will find out the fate of everything. So the

00:19:01.760 judge will rule whether she throws it out or grants the forfeiture. And yeah. Nine days.

00:19:09.860 Oh, shoot. I told somebody the 21st. For some reason, yesterday I was thinking it was the 21st,

00:19:14.500 but December 19th yeah there's a lot on yeah I don't know I wonder what she others that's a lot

00:19:22.300 I mean honestly I think she has to throw it out I can't I mean that's not going to stop the crown

00:19:28.860 obviously but I think she pretty much has to throw it out this is just unprecedented it's political

00:19:34.420 persecution you know and I think people need to wake up that people that aren't seeing that right

00:19:39.020 now is to see the vindictiveness and viciousness of the crown right now when it comes to how hard

00:19:43.600 I was thinking, I did a little thing on my TikTok last week, and I just said tales from the trial, and, you know, seven people testified against Tamara and I at the course of our trial, and none of those seven people had any personal interactions with Tamara or myself during the convoy, but did they sure make some outlandish statements, and then I was going to do another one, and we should talk about it now.

00:20:04.400 it was september 5th of 2023 we started our trial in ottawa it was supposed to be a 16-day trial

00:20:11.040 how many days did it end up being do you remember was it 55 i think it was 50 yeah i i was just i

00:20:17.040 did an interview with the guys from blender news this morning and we were actually just talking

00:20:20.560 about this exact same thing um yeah it was supposed to be 16 days since and end in the

00:20:25.360 middle of october and it actually stretched out over two years and i think it was like yeah 50 50

00:20:30.320 days um or it was just a little bit more than i think my jail time so and i mean the crazy thing

00:20:40.960 is is that paul bernardo's trial i try to bring this up because paul bernardo's bernardo's whole

00:20:47.520 trial was over in four months four months so you know this this is a man that was convicted of

00:20:53.120 doing some really terrible things and you know it's just unbelievable that it took that long for

00:20:57.760 mischief that doesn't happen in canada it's never happened before in canada no well even

00:21:05.200 gilbo didn't have a mischief trial he paid a 250 dollar fine and and probably had probation or

00:21:11.600 something and become a member of parliament with a pension for crying out loud yeah that's right

00:21:16.720 do you remember the trial though and this is what i was thinking about last night was uh there was

00:21:20.640 a drive-by shooting in ottawa a week before our trial started and uh i believe it was one or two

00:21:26.480 people lost their lives and it was a somalian wedding drive-by shooting and it injured a bunch

00:21:30.880 of people we've had a homicide investigator that you know a detective issued to our case from day

00:21:38.160 one he uh in in he interrogated me in the in the interrogation room while when i was arrested and

00:21:44.880 he's been assigned to our case right from day one but that particular week at the start of our trial

00:21:49.520 we had four homicide investigators from ops in the courtroom for the entire week when there was

00:21:56.160 was a drive-by shooting and no witnesses and no statements a week earlier than that I mean yeah

00:22:04.020 the absolute waste of resources through all of this has just been absolutely unbelievable and

00:22:09.800 then don't forget the three Ottawa police officers that armed that brought Miss Lee into court when

00:22:17.100 she testified against us too we've never showed an ounce of aggression anywhere and and this is

00:22:23.700 the gaslighting that they do like and then never sit there and lie and testify you know she was

00:22:31.140 so full of during some of the testimony that she gave and when the cross-examination came up our

00:22:35.780 lawyers had a really pleasant time with her counterdicting her and making her look completely

00:22:40.020 foolish in fact paul champ the lawyer was sitting in the back of the courtroom almost objecting in 0.95

00:22:44.980 anger because we were catching them on so many lies yeah well she definitely perjured herself 0.99

00:22:51.300 because lawrence caught her for sure um um contradicting yeah her testimony from the 0.95

00:22:56.260 inquiry so oh yeah that was crazy remember when she showed up in uggs and a little midriff shirt 0.85

00:23:02.580 i remember even the look on the judge's face when she walked in with this little fun flowy pants it

00:23:07.460 was quite it was quite something and somebody told me she's not even in ottawa anymore so

00:23:14.980 oh really well i hear so many stories not like i could really care or want to have a meet for

00:23:20.180 coffee with her but all right yeah no kidding eh no i don't think that's gonna be happening anytime

00:23:24.900 soon no but it'll be different successfully maybe she can buy us a coffee

00:23:33.940 well i don't know what's gonna happen next year because that that goes for certification on what

00:23:38.020 january of 2026 is that when yeah it's supposed to it i am it's supposed to i think but

00:23:43.540 never really got an update from reporters lately so we'll see yeah yeah these things take time

00:23:51.460 they do and uh take time and that's that's the thing i mean going back to circling back to

00:23:56.820 our conversation about you know people turning against us i mean i don't know if they think

00:24:01.700 that we live this glorious life of luxury or um you know like i don't get we're looking at the

00:24:08.500 next 10 years of our life in a courtroom in some fashion between the civil suit this and plus our

00:24:14.180 own suits right so i mean there's nothing absolutely nothing glorious about it i i just don't

00:24:20.500 get i just don't get it well i heard somebody speaking the other day that uh that we've

00:24:25.860 allegedly we have handlers that monitor us we have handlers that watch us and we've been instructed

00:24:33.540 by our handlers not to have a conversation with other people we have handlers he's 11 pounds and

00:24:43.940 his name is zippy sitting at the stop at the top of the stairs up here staring at me wondering when

00:24:47.700 his next meal is going to be that's my handling yeah opposition and i've just about think i've

00:24:59.300 heard it all oh my gosh what did i just get accused of the other day from that guy david

00:25:05.460 uh oh i was a biden i was a biden cia um operative when i'm like yes david you found me out um i was

00:25:15.140 i am a biden era cia operative of course and see also russian asset elon musk's bestie i put

00:25:24.100 because apparently he fixes the algorithm for me so that my posts get a lot of reach we're tight um

00:25:32.820 cpc shill um liberal plant you know like you name it now you're just being a chad now come on

00:25:41.060 yeah yeah that's right

00:25:44.980 oh george soros funded i'm funded by george soros i mean i don't understand you know where people

00:25:52.180 come up with this stuff and we've talked about this before like why everything is not a conspiracy

00:25:56.740 theory there's definitely a lot of some things but i mean every single thing is like not a

00:26:02.820 conspiracy theory we're just like regular boring people in my opinion right like everybody else

00:26:10.420 was in this whole movement before this started i mean it was just a group of canadians that

00:26:17.380 it wanted to stop what was happening yep do you find that that some of the most of the trouble

00:26:23.380 that we've had with the people going against this have been part of the activist side of the freedom

00:26:27.620 convoy that to me there was two big essential parts of convoy there was the the blue color

00:26:31.940 canadian class who have never stood up for anything in their life they just had their heads down their 0.91

00:26:35.380 entire life looking after their family working paying their taxes and then and then were trampled

00:26:40.900 on by government overreach and then decided this was enough and they stood up but then for me when

00:26:46.100 i got into this side of the thing um i noticed that the activist side like the people have been

00:26:50.580 protesting for two years before and congratulations for the ones that did you you did way more than i

00:26:55.700 and i never say that anyone didn't um but it seems like some of those people were the ones

00:27:00.580 the leaders of that are the ones that have given us the most amount of you know divisiveness

00:27:07.140 well there was definitely a lot of groups that came in you know with ulterior motives i mean i

00:27:13.300 don't for a second think that anybody went there um with 100 negative intention i mean i guess

00:27:21.380 that's not true there was probably there was definitely a few agitators there i would say

00:27:24.900 so that's probably not true but i think the majority of people were all there with the best

00:27:28.660 of intentions but also with their own agendas as we saw with some of the groups that we dealt with

00:27:34.180 um and it was quite it was quite an eye-opening experience um to see some of that attempted

00:27:40.580 manipulation happening in real time and yeah i'll remind you too that up until what two days before

00:27:49.220 convoy you were going to stay home and manage social media two days before so it was you know

00:27:55.940 us having this conversation trying to convince that it was a good idea for you to take part

00:28:00.260 because it would be a good thing to be part so you know well yeah and that just goes back to

00:28:05.700 the people saying that i always have paid this or paid that or i mean i was i'm working for this

00:28:11.060 person like you just said it i mean i'd never talked to you before january the 13th in my life

00:28:16.820 which is even kind of funny because we probably passed each other in the medicine or swift cart

00:28:22.980 mall or on the highway or been in the same restaurants because we are from the same area

00:28:28.020 in saskatchewan but but um i mean i would like you said i wasn't even planning to go it was

00:28:34.420 friday morning and we were leaving on monday and i looked at the way and i was like i i i have to

00:28:40.680 go like i mean by that time you know we were so deeply involved in the organization and the go

00:28:45.520 fund me stuff and i mean it was just i don't know how well you guys would have managed just fine

00:28:51.680 without me i'm sure but it would have been difficult to do the stuff that i had to do

00:28:55.780 remember you were the spark that lit the flame

00:28:58.760 and you were i think it was i think you resonated with so many people out there

00:29:04.620 you resonated with a certain uh group of people in canada that needed to change and i resonated

00:29:09.800 with a certain you know like the truck driver class i guess um and then there was other people

00:29:14.500 who were organizing the new just like pat so did pat i mean and so that i mean that's a good thing

00:29:19.780 you know we all we all had our roles everyone that was there had a role to play and i think

00:29:25.460 everyone should be proud of what they did and and their participation for the most part i mean

00:29:32.420 i'm sure mistakes were made nothing especially i mean i mean this that was the most organic like

00:29:38.100 we were literally basically flying by the seat of our pants excuse me the whole time because we

00:29:43.380 didn't know day to day hour to hour even sometimes what was coming you know so i mean like there's

00:29:50.420 There's just no need for all this negativity and this ridiculousness.

00:29:55.400 No, and it seems like it's been, maybe this is, and sorry to anybody listening,

00:29:59.280 this is kind of maybe our venting session on what we've been through in the last four years.

00:30:03.820 But I've always said this to you, and I've said this to you many times,

00:30:06.760 that if you and I had a huge disagreement where we couldn't see eye to eye on something

00:30:09.840 and we had to walk away from each other, I would wish you the best,

00:30:12.700 and I would not trash you or slander you or take text messages and screenshots and recordings

00:30:17.540 and post them all over social media for public attention.

00:30:20.920 That's just not who I am as a human being.

00:30:22.920 And I know that you would never do that to me either.

00:30:29.120 Uh-oh, now we froze. 0.77

00:30:31.200 Tamara froze. 0.95

00:30:32.620 And she's back.

00:30:35.300 That was so weird.

00:30:36.420 I just lost you there.

00:30:39.140 I heard you, sorry, you were saying, yeah,

00:30:41.820 that you wouldn't trash talk me.

00:30:43.200 You would just carry on with your life.

00:30:44.700 Yeah.

00:30:45.560 It's not such a hard thing to do.

00:30:47.100 You know, you didn't, you just, you'd be better as a human being to not do that.

00:30:51.460 Will I defend myself against crazy accusations?

00:30:54.520 I usually will.

00:30:55.880 I find that sometimes when you start defending yourself, you've already lost.

00:30:59.560 So the best thing to do is ignore them.

00:31:01.580 My theory is I try, you know, I play with them.

00:31:03.960 I have a little bit of fun and I mock them. 1.00

00:31:05.740 I think there's a lady on TikTok right now. 0.98

00:31:08.060 I'm not kidding you when I say this. 1.00

00:31:09.780 She has 100 accounts and she keeps coming after me on each one of them.

00:31:14.520 and she thinks I'm controlled opposition and part of the WEF and I'm part of

00:31:19.600 the new world order and 15 minutes cities. And I'm, I give up.

00:31:24.780 I have fun of this person multiple times. I can't do it anymore.

00:31:28.080 And so I started hitting the block button,

00:31:29.740 but every few weeks she finds me again on another account.

00:31:33.220 And I think I heard her say that she had like 99 accounts at one time.

00:31:38.120 Why do you need that accounts?

00:31:40.200 That's too much time on someone's hands. I would say.

00:31:44.520 email address up there if anybody's watching this right now and have suggestions for the show

00:31:49.980 please email your suggestions are you getting many emails on that tomorrow i have yeah i actually

00:31:54.540 have got some i was actually thinking i'm going to give you the password so you can get in but

00:31:57.800 i mean i can start reading some of them too i just don't have it filled up yet but i mean going

00:32:01.360 forward yeah i just got i've got some really great emails and um for the most part anyway some spam

00:32:07.720 not no real hate mail yet but i'll definitely be sharing that with you once um you know once we

00:32:14.080 that starts rolling in. I'm sure it's not far, not too far off. So yeah,

00:32:18.120 18house.rs at gmail.com. If you have any suggestions or comments,

00:32:22.140 if you, there's any guests you'd like to see on the show or if you want to just

00:32:25.780 send us some hate mail, obviously you're more than welcome to. It's a free country still so far

00:32:29.820 kind of. Tamara will respond to me and I will respond.

00:32:34.420 Yep, that's right. Oh man, I was

00:32:37.840 going to say I had a point there and I forgot what I was going to say. But yes, you're right. I mean, I guess that's the thing.

00:32:41.480 I mean, I can't see you and I ever disagreeing on something that we couldn't just talk out, first of all.

00:32:49.240 And yeah, like, I mean, just neither one of us is just really into drama.

00:32:55.200 I just I've got so many more important things to focus on and worry about than what those guys are saying about me.

00:33:03.600 I really do. I mean, I've told you this a million times.

00:33:06.420 Most of the time I forget they even exist. And that's not to be rude.

00:33:09.540 um it's just that i've got i've got stuff to do i've got more important things to worry about than

00:33:15.680 what people think of me or say about me you know my dad always said to me um what other people

00:33:21.380 think of you is none of your business and he's absolutely right so you know again i wish them

00:33:25.700 the best to take care and um good luck in all your future endeavors um some of these people

00:33:32.540 have their own shows they're welcome to have whoever they want on their show um they're

00:33:36.640 welcome to say whatever they want on their show just like you and i are welcome to do the same

00:33:41.020 with our show we have a plot i mean you know that's right and like i said to you when we decide

00:33:46.500 to turn this into a soap opera then then we can go there but until then no thanks if even if if by

00:33:53.180 us having some of these people on our little show here where we like to try and just speak about our

00:33:57.740 experience and be positive about it if we have somebody on here that's going to cause a bunch

00:34:02.000 drama and make internet soapbox then i i think we lose the integrity of what we're trying to do here

00:34:07.600 so we need to stay away from that i'm not here for drama i will obviously play with drama on

00:34:12.480 my social media platforms but i would never do that on this show yeah right exactly my god

00:34:20.240 just thinking about this now i've been accused of uh being part of a child sex trafficking ring

00:34:25.680 yes i know agriculture businesses in the province of the in i've been accused of breaking people's

00:34:31.760 airlines on the front of their trailers i've been accused of killing animals and having them

00:34:35.840 thrown on the doorsteps of and then she actually has the audacity to say uh they should talk to us 0.84

00:34:43.880 and we should unite so we can work together like unite for what you basically accused you of you

00:34:49.240 know some pretty terrible crimes oh horrible pretty horrible things like what would those

00:34:54.840 i don't even know if i can say them on here but you know basically accusing you of attempted murder

00:34:59.660 and uh child trafficking and like i mean yeah it's just some stuff that you can't come back

00:35:04.800 from and there's some people that are so emotionally unstable that i mean there's no

00:35:08.580 project on the planet um in which i would ever work with some of them again oh and to mention

00:35:13.840 those people's names when they've gone that far is giving them credit and that's where i refuse

00:35:17.960 to do that i will you know they make a big enough acid of themselves every time they open their

00:35:22.840 mouth for me to kill an animal and leave it on somebody's doorstep my gosh i think i mentioned

00:35:28.520 this with tom and i were on last week i i've been making a little bit of money off some of my 0.89

00:35:32.540 social media posts i monetize some of it so i sent jonathan cooper to stuff current today and

00:35:37.380 they went to uh one of the grocery stores and they stockpiled up on the stuff that our local

00:35:41.560 shelter needed and for the christmas season we dropped a bit of money there and give back to

00:35:47.260 the community again but in return for that jonathan and cooper bringing home a cat because

00:35:52.200 there was a cat at the sbca that couldn't find a home and it was getting close to its end of life

00:35:56.320 days i guess i don't know if it's a kill shelter or not but i don't i don't know and they just

00:36:00.880 said that it needs to have a home so we decided to shop cat jonathan picked him up and said he's

00:36:06.960 probably the most rambunctious little frisky thing you've ever seen in your life so

00:36:12.720 i can't remember what his name is though bart that's awesome nice good for you guys yeah

00:36:21.600 i'm catching a cold sierra told me everybody in manitoba is sick so i think i'm catching the

00:36:26.160 everyone's cold my mom and dad are fighting through it right now my mother's sick as can be

00:36:31.280 and going through it so there's a flu and a bug season around one of my pilot truck drivers was

00:36:35.280 down for about two weeks for for whatever it was there so thankfully my traffic coming through the

00:36:40.400 farm here is pretty quiet these days so hopefully i can make it through this the bug season without

00:36:44.320 getting the virus yeah no kidding no kidding i know you're so lucky to be in the country that's

00:36:50.160 one thing i really appreciated was being back in manitoba and just like watching the sun come up and

00:36:54.480 And I just love it out there.

00:36:56.140 It's just so quiet and peaceful and beautiful.

00:36:58.840 And now I'm looking out down my street.

00:37:03.680 I had a bunch of houses that look exactly the same.

00:37:06.740 How do you walk all of them when you're stuck in your residence, right?

00:37:10.800 Can you leave, go to the garage in the backyard?

00:37:13.820 Oh, yes, I can go to the garage in the backyard.

00:37:16.880 I have to just stay on my property.

00:37:18.660 That's all.

00:37:20.540 Thankfully, we've got like 12 quarters of land here.

00:37:22.440 So I think I don't need to go all those 12 quarters long, but at least I can go look after mom and dad when they need.

00:37:28.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:37:29.120 I mean, that's the thing.

00:37:30.280 There's a lot to be thankful for.

00:37:31.960 And, you know, yeah, we've lost some people along the way, but we've gained so many more wonderful friends and a great support group.

00:37:38.220 And really, the people that are our friends now are solid.

00:37:42.080 We have maybe a small circle, but we have a solid circle.

00:37:45.380 And, you know, people, I guess, think that we're so unlucky.

00:37:51.720 but i mean it could be a lot worse there's worse places we could be you're at home with your family

00:37:55.960 i'm at home with my family is it ideal no but i mean once again like you asked me earlier was it

00:38:02.880 worth it and absolutely it was worth it i wouldn't change a thing just for my grandchildren alone

00:38:07.880 you know that they get to they asked me again on on that interview this morning you know about

00:38:13.140 remorse and i said for me to say i'm sorry would be a slap in the face to everybody that

00:38:17.040 stopped planning their suicide or, you know, got to go see their grandparents in a long-term

00:38:23.740 care home or any of those situations that we've talked about so many times, but

00:38:27.980 how do you apologize to those people? I had a really good visit with one of my

00:38:32.780 healthcare professional friends and she mentioned the fact that, you know, I think it was a farce,

00:38:40.360 she said. I won't say any specifics, but she said the amount of other illnesses right now

00:38:46.380 than the other counter you know things that are going on right now because of the you know what

00:38:51.660 um far out numbers what it was intended for and she's and she's seen it before she just

00:38:59.020 sees it even more now um you look at the amount well i mean i think the thing is is it with each

00:39:05.820 day that passes chris and i'm sure you are following a lot of the same stuff that i am

00:39:09.900 with each day that passes proves that we were right and that we did the right thing

00:39:13.980 um which is only frustrating in that um when does accountability come to those people

00:39:21.760 you know you know you look at the story that rebel news broke just the other day about the

00:39:26.580 privy council delete um deleting messages between the emergencies act invocation the one that was

00:39:32.640 deemed unconstitutional from justice mosley back you know a few years back they're deleting

00:39:38.380 and censoring what they're releasing right now yet another level of lawsuits we have they can't do

00:39:46.760 that there's there's lawsuits before the courts ours being one of them you know and i filed a

00:39:52.320 lawsuit against uh the crown prosecutor in downtown ottawa the one that handed basically handed over

00:39:57.740 4200 pages of my cell phone evidence to the media in the courtroom for one of your bail hearings

00:40:02.460 there and it basically came back the other day that you know the the crown's office in this

00:40:07.080 country can choose whether something proceeds to trial and they might just throw this out before

00:40:12.520 so no accountability yet again and this crown prosecutor has been moved up into the ranks to

00:40:18.080 like deputy crown prosecutor now in ottawa how is that possible with this he's some of his actions

00:40:24.100 what we call out here failing upwards i know i agree like it's absolutely unbelievable that that

00:40:31.240 man got a promotion still has a job let alone got a promotion but that shows you what it's like out

00:40:37.000 there you know yep i i don't get it have you heard anything from katie in british columbia lately i

00:40:44.940 messaged her the other day to find out how they were doing and i haven't got a response back yet

00:40:48.560 no i haven't i'm trying well i mean i was obviously gone so i feel like i'm really out of the loop but

00:40:53.780 i've seen i see she's still making videos um so i gotta definitely watch something get caught up but

00:40:58.440 um um it's they seem still seem like they're very active um but i haven't i just gotta get kind of

00:41:04.860 well i can't get settled back in because i gotta leave again but i will get caught up very soon

00:41:09.220 yes i should reach out to her too and just see how she's doing i heard a disturbing story the

00:41:14.360 other day the you know from somebody the statement they gave where they said what kind of ammunition

00:41:19.100 was used in the slaughter and uh like 22 caliber i'm going to do a tiktok on that just to show

00:41:24.720 people the difference 22 caliber round and a 12 gauge round versus a 223 you know and and just

00:41:30.880 if that's what they used for caliber that is ridiculous you shoot gophers with a with a 0.91

00:41:35.940 with a 22 caliber shell you don't shoot ostriches that's absolutely horrendous and horrible 0.67

00:41:41.600 well if we know anything um agents from most canadian government agencies um

00:41:50.360 not really that high caliber no no and there is some good ones out there don't get me wrong but

00:41:58.940 I mean, the behavior of the CFIA was just appalling all around.

00:42:06.920 And yet no accountability.

00:42:09.000 No.

00:42:09.820 No accountability.

00:42:11.180 Anyone that's ever owned a flock of chickens knows that that was the most terrible way that you could take care of those birds.

00:42:21.640 It was about proving a point.

00:42:23.060 When you stand up against this government, this government will do what they feel necessary and use the amount of strength that they can to make sure that people are scared going forward.

00:42:30.900 Look at what they've done to you and I and the court system for the last two years.

00:42:35.280 It's all been a statement for anyone else willing to stand up, you know, think.

00:42:39.760 And we had the farmers protest a while ago in Regina.

00:42:43.220 They had a protest and some people were traveling up from Weyburn to go to Regina for the protests.

00:42:48.580 And RCMP, allegedly RCMP, pulled them over and said, hey, we're going to turn you around and go home.

00:42:53.060 do you want to be like tamara and chris you know if that statement came from a law enforcement

00:42:58.080 officer's mouth towards somebody else wanting to protest peacefully stop and think about what

00:43:04.180 what what you're like what are you wearing on your badge right now because it definitely isn't

00:43:08.260 standing for canadians you're standing for the government that you're fearing and that's sad

00:43:12.140 and i have a higher level of respect for law enforcement but if we have officers out there

00:43:16.060 that are pulling that kind of stuff you need to check yourself yes yeah absolutely no that's

00:43:21.680 exactly right but i mean that that's to be expected i mean the laughable thing was the

00:43:26.680 judge in her sentence saying that she was giving us this light sentence because she was taking

00:43:30.740 into consideration that she didn't want the sentence to be a deterrent well what about the

00:43:36.440 three and a half years of absolute lawfare um being locked up in jail getting denied bail

00:43:41.660 um you know all the stuff that we've gone through um that's not a deterrent having your bank

00:43:47.960 accounts frozen and you're like trying to give me a break the whole freaking thing has been a

00:43:53.640 deterrent don't give me that that you're trying to not be a deterrent i just i can't see you know

00:43:59.860 i can't see how some of these people go home and look their families in the eye and say i did this

00:44:03.520 country of service today i don't see it you know going through the phase of our trial and watching

00:44:09.420 and you know we tell i talk to the crime prosecutors in the hallway i my despite my

00:44:14.040 lawyer standing like within an earshot away saying chris you be careful you know he's not your friend

00:44:18.920 i had good conversations we didn't talk about you know trial stuff but you just have a conversation

00:44:24.280 and then to watch him lay out this evil case against you and try and just you know the slander

00:44:30.200 and the lies and the this all it was like i hope you're proud of yourself at the end of the day i 0.55

00:44:36.040 hope i hope your kids see what a failure you've become to them for for you know allegedly being

00:44:40.520 a role model but yeah you were so nice to him for so long and i started off nice to him and then you

00:44:46.880 know very early on in the trial i was like this guy is not my friend and he is trying to put me

00:44:52.180 in jail for 10 years at that time they were throwing around the 10-year number and uh i just

00:44:58.220 stopped i don't need to be nice to you i don't have to be rude or disrespectful but i mean i

00:45:02.060 don't need to be nice to you i don't hate him but i i could i can strongly dislike you know to watch

00:45:09.320 him even through the forfeiture hearing when he was like well you know chris has other trucks out

00:45:13.120 there there's old blue so he can just give us big red you know old blues the laughable thing was

00:45:19.680 listening to these guys in their suits you know that have never got their hands dirty probably a

00:45:24.440 day in their life assume that they don't have a hot clue how these businesses run no they don't

00:45:29.900 have a hot clue about any of this stuff out here so i mean you could have 10 trucks 10 extra

00:45:34.940 trucks but if they're not suited for the job that you need them to do um they're inappropriate

00:45:41.980 you know so but that just goes to show you i mean they don't care they really don't care and

00:45:47.180 these guys are obviously not going to stop at anything um no and then doesn't that make you

00:45:52.700 want to double down even more and just keep telling the truth and and pushing out exactly

00:45:57.500 what they've been doing behind the scenes and just how ruthless they've been like it's for me it's

00:46:01.980 It's like, you want to go, let's go.

00:46:03.980 Let's just do it right to the end.

00:46:05.220 I'll take it right.

00:46:06.320 I'm not going to lie, and I'm not going to slander,

00:46:08.400 and I'm not going to say anything horrible and hateful.

00:46:10.320 I'm going to just tell the truth and what I see from my perspective.

00:46:13.200 And what I've seen so far is like 1930s German-style politics

00:46:17.960 where they single people out and they run you through. 0.52

00:46:22.480 Obviously, I'm not talking about the Holocaust when I'm talking about this. 0.74

00:46:25.000 I'm talking about the lead-up to what happened in that,

00:46:28.960 in the leading to World War II.

00:46:30.080 and we're there unfortunately we're there it's crazy it's crazy well and i mean

00:46:37.180 and that's another thing too you know a lot of people um are really supportive of us and they

00:46:46.500 want to support us and they do look up to us i mean i i don't think you and me have ever

00:46:52.240 called ourselves heroes or leaders i i certainly never have i've never heard those words come out

00:46:57.600 your mouth but a lot of people do feel that way and i know that there's some people like the people

00:47:02.800 we were chatting about earlier that get really upset because we they think that we're stealing

00:47:06.240 their thunder but we're really not and in a lot of instances um it's because of the way that we've

00:47:12.480 handled ourselves throughout this trial it isn't just the three weeks that happened in ottawa that

00:47:17.120 we've been dealing with i mean take it take all the credit you want call yourself the leader

00:47:21.920 call yourself the king or the queen i don't care right but it's also how we've conducted ourselves

00:47:29.280 throughout this whole process and yes it's frustrating and you and i talk almost every day

00:47:35.200 chris and you know we do have our bad days but we're not going to let it we don't dwell on it

00:47:41.120 you know we do what you and i have always done and that's you know take our licks dust off and

00:47:45.520 get up and keep going because what else are we going to do and so i think a lot of people um

00:47:50.560 I think a lot of people support us because of that,

00:47:55.840 because of the way that they've seen us be treated

00:47:57.820 and also because of the way that we've handled that treatment.

00:48:02.420 And there's some pretty dark days,

00:48:03.940 and I know you and I have talked about this many times.

00:48:05.980 You know, when you look at the amount of stuff

00:48:07.340 that we've been through in the last four years,

00:48:09.020 I know there's been people out there that have been through worse.

00:48:11.040 I'm not trying to compare,

00:48:12.100 but when you look at what we've endured for the last four years

00:48:15.320 since, you know, it was a peaceful protest,

00:48:17.020 we all showed up there with the best of intentions

00:48:18.860 and our lives have been utterly gutted like you've had death threats i've had death threats

00:48:23.620 you know we've taken those death threats we haven't you know i've exposed a few of them but

00:48:29.020 you know you you smile at them and you move on with your day um did you ever i never thought

00:48:34.100 in a million years did you ever think that this would be our lives where it'd be so politicized

00:48:39.060 and to have so many but i love the support and i you know that gets us through through but when

00:48:45.580 you've got people that are calling for the death of us or the crushing of a of big red because it

00:48:51.060 hurt somehow hurt your your sensitive little feelings like it shows the country we're in

00:48:56.960 right now this is canada now i never thought we'd be here yeah well i talked about that a bit in my

00:49:03.680 interview this morning too and it was just about humanity like we need to make humanity great

00:49:08.560 again and i think canadians can be some of the kindest most compassionate people on the planet

00:49:15.160 unfortunately there's also an element in canada and i think you and i have talked about this last

00:49:20.280 week where you know some people it seems that certain people you know get to a certain level of

00:49:26.920 like i hate to use the word celebrity but they get to a certain level of notoriety or fame

00:49:33.320 and canadians all turn on them and hate them and i used to think that canada was the nicest country

00:49:39.800 in the world and i don't think so anymore i mean there's a lot of really nasty people out there 0.65

00:49:44.600 um but there's also a lot of good people i think the majority are good people the nasty ones are

00:49:49.480 usually just much more vocal um again i just tuned all that out i just tried and tune all that out

00:49:55.320 i've got i've muted so many accounts on x that honestly my ex is a very happy place to be and

00:50:01.160 i just i just think it's hilarious that they can just tweet and you know call me whatever

00:50:05.640 they want and say whatever they wanted and i'm just going to keep living my happy little life

00:50:09.880 completely oblivious yeah i've definitely gotten a lot better at the block button in the last number

00:50:15.400 of years i can i can tell you that um but it's the same sense i i prefer to fight with the people

00:50:21.340 like the the left trolls i don't i don't like fighting with people on our side you know i've

00:50:26.260 heard some pretty old language stuff about you and i i will defend you and your honor to to the end

00:50:30.820 of the earth when i hear people on social media trashing you i know your intentions i know i know

00:50:35.720 the person that you are and i believe that you were never in this for any ill will on anything

00:50:40.600 you did it for the best of your and you still fight to this day because of that so when i see

00:50:45.000 people out there attacking you i take that personally and then i will attack back if need

00:50:48.680 be and if it's somebody on our own side and i can just have a private conversation with them that's

00:50:53.560 that's even better yet but i i don't there's a certain part of me that fighter inside me that

00:50:58.840 needs to come out and and put people in their place when they need to be put in their place

00:51:02.600 well and i appreciate that and obviously likewise that goes for you too i am like i said i don't i

00:51:09.300 don't really see it that much i trust you trust me they think about me a lot more than i think

00:51:13.220 about them so it's all good um but yeah um oh shoot i just forgot what i was going to say again

00:51:20.620 i mean i just feel this is like such a candid and so casual chat i'm actually really enjoying it

00:51:29.000 um it's it gets it off of our chests and i think we we hold a lot of this stuff in publicly because

00:51:35.240 it does you know it does weigh a little on your heart and uh and it's good to have that conversation

00:51:40.220 just express it so people know where you stand and because especially when you're getting all

00:51:44.360 these accusations when you're watching the chat conversations like why aren't you talking to so

00:51:48.040 and so and then we just ignore it because it's not worth our time to address yeah exactly and

00:51:53.820 why do you care if we talk to so-and-so I just don't under I don't understand any

00:51:58.740 of it none of it but but you know what people that are attracted to drama care

00:52:05.340 about drama yes exactly oh that's just the way that it goes I mean sure people

00:52:10.740 I'm sure are curious but I mean I think we've pretty much laid it out on the

00:52:15.780 line here today I don't think you or me you know like you said we don't wish

00:52:19.420 anybody anyway I will um we're certainly not out there on social media trying to disparage other

00:52:26.340 people other than the odd time I'll do that with some politicians but you know I don't I don't uh

00:52:31.720 I don't go out of my way to to make anybody feel terrible at least I try not to um so yeah I think

00:52:40.160 um like I said we've talked about this a lot and and we're just you and I are just trying to get

00:52:47.660 on with living our lives and being good people and serving our sentence and helping where we can

00:52:52.300 plain and simple and helping others where we can too yes exactly i at the end of the day i run a

00:53:02.180 business and i have a family to look after and you know like yesterday all day in the afternoon

00:53:07.260 working in the shop and you know i still have grease that is like literally embedded into my

00:53:11.720 fingers today um and tonight will probably be the same when jonathan gets his truck home from

00:53:16.380 from the shop not passing safety and just so many little things to fix on it right now that'll be

00:53:21.520 the evening tonight we'll be tearing that apart and fixing but there's more weather coming in i

00:53:25.840 was just looking at the forecast in canada right now and my goodness environment canada is a big

00:53:31.280 system working this way across through uh through the province right now so uh i better check over

00:53:37.580 i can't leave till five so hopefully there's no storm warnings here though oh there's a storm

00:53:43.540 morning for lethbridge area right now a watch i guess and then there's a whole wall of snow

00:53:47.700 over the rockies right now i think it looks like the storm is just over top of us in saskatchewan

00:53:53.700 so oh boy i'll hit the play button on it hopefully uh yeah i'll be able to get out of here that's the

00:54:03.700 trouble especially in the winter time because at five o'clock it's dark i don't really i'm

00:54:07.060 worried about traveling if it's and it's supposed to rain here too which would be even worse but

00:54:11.300 it's cold here right now it's like the wind is nasty cold so yeah well hopefully you guys are

00:54:17.980 hunkered in and you've got a nice big huge shop anyways yeah we'll be out and uh working on

00:54:24.360 winter trucks right now red is dirty i got home last time so like i said friday i head to bow

00:54:28.580 island a little barn for a guy at fox valley i talked to him this morning he's pretty excited

00:54:32.040 to have big red pulling into his yard on on friday with with uh with the new barn so that'll

00:54:37.680 experience and then um then i think i'll take off for the states next week and go haul a tractor

00:54:42.380 for machine as most people know jonathan and i collect antique tractors um we have the very first

00:54:47.920 versatile four-wheel drive ever built in canada back in 1965 restored in our shed and it's a it's

00:54:53.420 a pride and joy of our fleet um i've got a buddy that lives in across the border in montana and

00:54:58.620 i've always said that that's the home of the big bud and i always find the big bud four-wheel drive

00:55:02.320 tractors like the most like the holy grail of of tractors and he phoned the other day and he said

00:55:08.260 i found one for you chris and the guy wants it gone for scrap price and the motor's probably not

00:55:13.860 running and it's an old it's an old wagner if anybody knows about this wagner wa17 um john

00:55:20.060 deer kind of took them out of business back in the 60s and so they reproduced their tractors into

00:55:24.980 the big bud series big bud painted them white and then sold them as it was so this tractor is

00:55:29.220 probably pretty rough but it is a big bud and i just see the email notification come on i work

00:55:33.560 with a broker at the border they can do the the border card or the border customs paperwork to

00:55:38.440 get it across the border and it looks like we will have a big bud in our possession next week

00:55:42.700 sometime look for this oh my gosh just in time for christmas just in time for christmas i'll

00:55:49.040 park it on the lawn obviously this is a work in progress if the motor doesn't run and the price

00:55:53.000 is basically free so we'll just park it on the grass for the winter and just oh i can't wait

00:55:58.800 like that is just the a big bud is no kidding yes i'm excited so that'll be a project that

00:56:06.080 we're going to start working on probably for now we'll just having possession of it will be the

00:56:09.840 biggest thing so we'll get a survey of it congratulations thank you a big bud like can you

00:56:17.680 and the break is right those tractors welker farms down in montana i watch them on social

00:56:21.440 media all the time they uh they restored an old big bud and then they had demco painted

00:56:26.240 them a grain trailer a grain cart that went behind it same colors as a big red or big bud

00:56:30.880 and uh i'll be excited in the spring if i don't get to work with with some of them and some other

00:56:35.760 egg uh businesses in the province here moving some equipment for them so that is a potential

00:56:41.200 on the new year uh but i'm super excited to see where this conversation goes they've reached out

00:56:47.200 to me for it so awesome good for you no kidding see it's not so bad no what us worry just out

00:56:58.240 here working away and doing the doing the country good keeping the country moving that's right

00:57:02.960 exactly i can't wait until you can announce what you're going to be looking forward to in the

00:57:07.680 future here oh yes very soon hopefully in a couple weeks we will weeks good make announcement i'll

00:57:14.160 let you know as soon as we can are you uh intending or anything or anything yes actually that will be

00:57:21.520 coming that is in just the very beginning stages of book number two so that will be exciting we've

00:57:26.080 got uh my first book finished up uh at the end of the inquiry i think it was i remember that you were

00:57:33.760 making phone calls every day to help yeah i think they the i think that wrapped up with at the end

00:57:39.520 of the inquiry so i mean we still got the release of the report and then of course the trial and

00:57:43.520 everything else it's um there's still there's still a lot to tell so it'll be the first the

00:57:49.360 first book writing process was really great and very therapeutic so i'm going to start okay i'm

00:57:56.000 going to use a ghostwriter obviously i'm not much of a novelist but uh i've got a story to tell and

00:58:01.840 that story it'll be yes i have a book i kept a journal and i wrote in that journal almost every

00:58:08.880 day while we were sitting in trial for those 50 some days so uh just thumbing through that the

00:58:12.960 The other day looking at some of the stuff that I could talk about

00:58:15.320 in some sort of a book would be therapeutic maybe.

00:58:20.040 But like I said, I've got somebody in mind that's going to help me with this

00:58:23.220 and we'll start working on that shortly, maybe over the Christmas holidays.

00:58:26.680 I'm hoping things slow down a little bit for the Christmas holidays.

00:58:29.040 We still have, looking at my load sheet,

00:58:31.300 there's still quite a few loads on the books right now

00:58:32.960 and guys are working as hard as they can if they're permitting.

00:58:38.120 Well, good for you.

00:58:39.100 I know you have a hell of a story and I know Canadians

00:58:41.300 and like people all over the world want to hear it read it yes unfortunately the story's not done

00:58:47.540 you know with them sentence and and some of our acquittals have you heard any dates yet on when

00:58:54.120 we could possibly see the the the acquittals court or the the appeals yeah i've heard nothing i think

00:59:02.400 um from what i understand from the lawyers that i've talked to you the the appeal process is

00:59:07.520 mostly just lawyers pushing paper anyways like we don't have to make any appearances they don't

00:59:12.140 even usually have to show up so i haven't heard anything yet the last time lawrence talked to me

00:59:19.680 about it he figured that it would take at least six months even to get to an appellate court so

00:59:24.220 and if it gets to a retrial after that if they order a new trial it'll be two to three years

00:59:30.760 following that so i mean there could be seven or eight years i mean if this does go to a new trial

00:59:37.200 there could technically be seven or eight years um between the conclusion of that hypothetically

00:59:42.640 since since the freedom convoy itself anyway did you hear how many people were acquitted of uh

00:59:48.400 charter chapter charter 11 jordan applications in the last year in ontario alone it was like 10

00:59:54.960 000 people and this the this is your government right here everyone this is the doug ford attorney

01:00:01.280 general's office speaking for you and you know somebody that bur you know rape burglary armed

01:00:07.560 robbery off no and this pursuing this case is a choice somebody this is a conscious decision made

01:00:16.460 in the attorney general of ontario's office they choose which ones to persecute they choose they

01:00:22.460 choose that and they they're letting them go so they're using all their resources to prosecute us

01:00:28.420 go through all these appeals even appealing our sentence because 18 months for mischief 18 months

01:00:34.620 of house arrest for mischief apparently isn't good enough for them you know it's it's just

01:00:39.320 unbelievable to see the cases and the type of offenses that they're just tossing out um to

01:00:44.840 keep us in court lawfare at its finest and uh you know remember in rule about a crown prosecutor if

01:00:53.360 they don't feel like they're going to have a sure win on a case they are to drop that case

01:00:57.840 and in other words it would be in a recent process or malicious prosecution and i can't wait to speak

01:01:04.660 about my experience when it comes to that someday when it comes to the forfeiture on big red like

01:01:08.500 there's a story behind that that would blow people's minds with just how corrupt the system

01:01:13.320 is and yes if i can think that they will go to yes but we really want you but we will speak about

01:01:21.600 that because i like to talk and yeah exactly can't shut down an illegal chinese police station though

01:01:30.400 no you know like i mean it's it's unbelievable but like we should just wear it as a badge of honor 0.93

01:01:37.600 chris obviously they are scared and consider all of us to be a bit of a threat and so they're just

01:01:45.840 trying to silence us so come at me bro yeah yeah when you uh run somebody in the mud long enough

01:01:52.940 you realize that they're they're willing to fight like yeah it's uh i'm willing to fight and i'll

01:01:58.380 fight till the day i die i had this good conversation with jonathan when i come to

01:02:01.460 the forfeiture on big red and i said that that truck is my line in the sand i i feel like that

01:02:06.300 truck is i will not let it go it will not end of my possession regardless they can try but we'll

01:02:14.300 keep fighting so that's what that's right yep exactly well i see we're just over an hour here

01:02:22.560 and i should probably go and finish packing my stuff and get ready to go i'm so curious how

01:02:28.100 this trip's gonna go because i don't know how to navigate an airport under house arrest like do i

01:02:33.820 have to have all my letters ready because of course it's all like i guess they're not law

01:02:39.180 enforcement, but they are, they're border services, you know, I don't know security agents.

01:02:45.380 I have the email, so like I carry around the email with me all the time and it just states

01:02:49.660 what my schedule is. Yeah, but I have so many, I don't, it'll take me forever to find them,

01:02:55.900 but I definitely got to get that together before I go too, because I don't, I don't want any

01:02:59.460 problems. Mine works twice a week, so she updates my schedule once a week, and as long as I have

01:03:03.860 that, that list with me, I'm good to go. So, you know, law enforcement is so easy to deal with

01:03:10.640 in my area here. I haven't had any issues with them at all. I've been late a couple times

01:03:14.260 over the time that I said that I would be home and a simple phone call to the local

01:03:17.940 dispatchments, talk to the officer on, you know, charge at that time. They've been amazing. Like

01:03:23.080 it's been absolutely amazing. But then that's my experience with all law enforcement. I've never

01:03:28.580 had issues with law enforcement. I've seen people have issues, so I know what's out there, but

01:03:33.340 my experience has always been positive so a lot of support okay gotta be careful how they support

01:03:38.900 right so yeah that's right yeah absolutely absolutely well okay well we will be uh back

01:03:45.800 next week uh live live stream hopefully barring any other opportunity chris is going to be on

01:03:50.860 the road but he can join us from the truck i think i would really like to try and get

01:03:54.640 dr roger on next week's show i've been in communication with him um sorry about that

01:04:00.340 um because he's uh got quite a story too and he could use some help so we will see you guys next

01:04:07.060 week thank you for joining us and uh have a great week thanks for this today guys it was a good

01:04:12.660 vent session yeah it was it was it's good to just chit chat sometimes isn't it exactly so

01:04:18.820 have a good one everyone all right bye

House Arrest - December 12, 2025

Ep. 8 - House Arrest with Chris & Tamara

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