House Arrest - Episode 7 - House Arrest On the Road

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:00:30.000 well hello everyone hey guys how you doing we're doing good how was your week tomorrow

00:00:41.680 how's your granddaughter doing oh my gosh it has been um absolutely a crazy few weeks obviously i

00:00:48.480 was up at the farm with my granddaughters while the new baby came so that was uh i forgot how

00:00:53.840 busy little children her middle daughter now is only 18 months old so she's gonna have her hands 0.98

00:00:59.440 full for a while that's for sure healthy happy how's mom done yes she is she was uh six pounds

00:01:05.220 ten ounces and she's doing really really well and sierra is doing awesome also so so what does

00:01:10.720 emerson really oh yes yes guys name a boy's name good job that's a second one um jonathan's

00:01:24.080 girlfriend's uh best friend had a baby here and called her carter and i thought that was pretty

00:01:30.100 cool actually good job yeah i i like it i like different names too so now she's got an

00:01:35.720 an ellie and everly and an emerson so it's a bit of a tongue twister when you're trying to

00:01:42.140 remember all their names now but yeah it's been good it's been really good we've basically been

00:01:48.400 living off of tv dinners because i take the kids to school in shoal lake which is 44 kilometers

00:01:54.280 away so it's you know 88 kilometers twice a day so i take them to school in the morning and then

00:01:59.500 i go and pick them up in the afternoon so and then i get to hang out up at sears place for

00:02:03.700 uh for a couple hours before i have to come back home but no police visits yet i'm quite surprised

00:02:10.120 actually i have a i have one of my guys parked in shoal lake tonight uh kelly and nathan are

00:02:15.220 drills right now and they got stuck in show lake and they need to meet manitoba hydro in verdon

00:02:21.780 manitoba tomorrow morning and they are doing a series of line lifts for a big air cd that we're

00:02:25.940 pulling the porters la prairie for later tomorrow so manitoba hydro is our best friend right now and

00:02:30.900 the permit office in manitoba has been the absolute biggest pain in the rear end for the

00:02:34.420 last month and a half while trying to get this move underway but it is finally underway customers

00:02:38.900 can finally be happy so nice awesome oh thanks for the congratulations guys i hope you guys are

00:02:45.380 all doing awesome sorry that i missed last week i tried to pop on but it was just a bit uh it was

00:02:50.820 a bit hectic over there so i didn't even bother that's um yeah great wow where do we got jack

00:03:00.100 thank you for the congratulations debbie

00:03:02.100 so yeah it's been quite a wild wild ride though um as far as house arrest goes i mean trying to get

00:03:10.540 all of this stuff organized and uh the scheduling of course which is very important so as you well

00:03:17.220 know with even your work schedule i mean this has to all be sort of pre-planned in advance

00:03:21.660 and of course when i booked my time um for my necessities of life days i just kind of randomly

00:03:28.580 picked two days not not remembering that i'm you know we're 44 kilometers from the school we're 25

00:03:35.160 kilometers from from the nearest town so you know to we need to get groceries we need to get gas

00:03:41.140 that was the big thing i didn't consider right all those kilometers back and forth so so but i have

00:03:46.560 to say my uh my officer has been amazing she's been more than obviously when you have a new baby

00:03:51.860 it's a very fluid situation and and she's been really great as far as working with me you know

00:03:58.100 around these little obstacles so so yeah it's been it's been good i can't complain it's nice

00:04:02.560 to be back in manitoba i love this place it's so pretty well as most people know in the surf

00:04:07.440 current area last night was our local town hall for the saskatchewan prosperity projects uh

00:04:12.580 evening of information and i i've been i was asked to be a part of this and i um i willingly

00:04:20.140 accepted this and i thought to myself i'm like february 2022 we've seen the best in canada we've

00:04:26.160 seen the most patriotic. We've seen the people standing there proud of their flags, the Canadian

00:04:30.360 flags that were waving on the side of the highway. It was a memorable experience that we can never

00:04:34.900 relive again. But in the last four years, I've also seen, and I think you're right there with

00:04:42.100 me on this journey, and we've seen the worst from our nation's capital. We've seen the amount

00:04:47.240 of lawfare and the amount of persecution, political persecution. And I think it's time

00:04:52.060 for this conversation, so I attended the town hall last night in Swift Current at Community

00:04:57.580 Baptist Church, and I think it was good. The house was packed. The organizers tried to make it sound

00:05:02.840 like it was the reason why it was packed. I don't want to take any credit for it. I kind of gave

00:05:06.700 some sort of a speech. I don't think it's a speech much. I'm not much of a public speaker. I get

00:05:10.600 really nervous in front of crowds, although I can sit and speak to, you know, however many people

00:05:14.840 are going to watch this podcast tonight and feel completely comfortable, but I think it's time we

00:05:19.460 have a conversation, I think it's time we start asking these questions and start asking our

00:05:24.320 neighbors and our children whether we want what this country has to offer right now. Because I

00:05:29.560 think Ottawa is destroying just about everything in its path right now. And our children don't have

00:05:35.800 a future in this country right now. You know, buried in debt, government, some of the numbers

00:05:40.960 that we learned last night, just listening to this town hall, I encourage anybody in the areas

00:05:44.660 in Saskatchewan right now, if there's a project town hall, take the couple hours out of your

00:05:50.320 evening and go sit and listen to it. It's an information evening. You can ask questions.

00:05:54.260 There's nothing hidden. Get involved and learn. And that's all it is, is education at this point

00:05:59.680 right now. Yeah. And, you know, that's one of the things I really, really loved about the,

00:06:04.120 well, I still love the APP, the Alberta Prosperity Project. But one of the things I

00:06:07.540 really loved about them was the first time I was able to go to one of their events. That's all it

00:06:11.820 was it was just education there wasn't anybody trying to sell me anything there wasn't anybody

00:06:16.160 trying well other than an app membership but other than you know sign up for anything so

00:06:20.200 i mean that's how it all starts is just getting out there and like you said having those

00:06:23.980 conversations and and and by the way you're a great public speaker you don't give yourself

00:06:28.340 enough credit you're a great public speaker maybe we're our own we're our own worst critics right

00:06:34.620 so uh i don't i feel like i could do a social media posts and and i'm totally comfortable i'm

00:06:39.580 do good doing podcasts now i remember the first time i did a podcast all i've ever done was social

00:06:45.080 media just in the cab of my truck and my audience was a little bit different being truckers and uh

00:06:51.160 and then sitting down for my first podcast not podcast actually was a town hall in regina it

00:06:57.200 was pre-convoy and i was live on the screen and i was just freaking out with how many people there's

00:07:02.880 more people right now in the audience than there was on that first night and i'm completely 100

00:07:07.080 percent comfortable but man i don't know standing in front of a whole place full of people and

00:07:12.200 they're all you know listening to what you have to say you know we're our own worst enemy when

00:07:16.040 it comes to being critical so i don't know it's a part of progress i've learned a lot in the last

00:07:20.740 number of years so i find that one of the things in our case with speaking publicly is there is so

00:07:26.700 much to the story like to our whole story and our entire journey that you know we could talk for

00:07:32.140 hours and hours and hours there never seems to be a shortage of you know something specific even

00:07:37.060 to talk about what do you mean tamara is there something going on nobody been up to um we got

00:07:47.940 the first time watching live from brian mcdonald however a long time admirer of both of you you

00:07:53.700 guys woke up our country and changed the world god bless you thank you so much brian welcome to

00:07:58.580 house arrest with chris and tamara we love it when somebody says from in the comments by the way

00:08:04.620 I think I did a post the other day that I was going to do some trucking around the province,

00:08:07.860 and I went up to Humboldt, and it was amazing to wake up the next morning 0.86

00:08:11.760 and see the amount of people that snap pictures of Big Reds sitting in the parking lot. 0.96

00:08:16.360 While I was sleeping, people driving through the parking lot with cameras out the window.

00:08:19.720 It's nice, so make sure you let us know where you're from.

00:08:23.220 Yeah, absolutely.

00:08:25.800 You had the helicopter photo a couple weeks ago, and you were going down the highway in the States.

00:08:30.520 Wasn't that in the States?

00:08:32.340 Minot, North Dakota, I was coming through with a combine out of the factory in Nebraska,

00:08:35.840 and I noticed a black helicopter flying, you know, close to the highway, and I thought, wow, that's cool.

00:08:40.300 Minot is the home of one of the Air Force bases and actually holds a lot of the nuclear power in North Dakota.

00:08:45.660 Like, a lot of nuclear missiles are all siloed around Minot in the region there.

00:08:49.820 So when you see a helicopter in the area, you just kind of think it's military, but these guys were out,

00:08:54.260 and then the next thing you know on social media, a picture of Big Red driving down 52 was posted from the guy in the helicopter.

00:09:00.140 so that was that was pretty cool i like that yeah no kidding well she's definitely probably one of

00:09:06.220 the most recognizable vehicles on the planet at this point um in the back corner of the shop

00:09:12.700 covered in salt too unfortunately but it's been too sloppy around saskatchewan right now with the

00:09:17.500 snow and the rain the last little while to to get her washed up properly i should have parked it

00:09:21.660 about a week and a half to two weeks ago for its winter sleep but i've got too much work up right

00:09:27.180 now it's been non-stop yeah hi ellie from alberta st thomas ontario welcome shelly hello dual sport

00:09:36.940 bandit from langley bc eyebrows saskatchewan wow my brow in the crowd oh yeah really yeah it was

00:09:47.900 pretty good nova scotia i saw somebody in here from california too that's just incredible it's

00:09:53.180 It's just, it's amazing.

00:09:54.760 I feel sometimes like we're the luckiest people on the planet.

00:09:57.940 I mean, I know that there's so much stuff that we have going on, but, you know, when

00:10:01.160 you see the support that we have and the lovely messages that we get, it spins all over the

00:10:07.260 whole world.

00:10:08.640 You kind of, you take note of that when you see the amount of support and the amount of

00:10:12.060 people waving.

00:10:12.560 When I'm driving down Big Red on the, with Big Red on the highway, the hands out the

00:10:16.620 windows, the horns, the, you know, it's always people coming up to me when I stop.

00:10:20.840 anywhere i stop somebody's coming up to shake a hand and get a picture say hi you know i i've said

00:10:25.540 it before and i'll say it again it would have been one hell of a lonely courtroom if we wouldn't

00:10:29.380 have had so many people standing behind us in the last number of years so we're very oh no kidding

00:10:33.380 yeah yeah we had a lot of fantastic support there so many people i wonder when we're going to get

00:10:38.580 to go back and see them all again wow no trips to ottawa anytime soon right not for a while

00:10:46.700 well hopefully not anyways if we have trips to ottawa within the next you know 15 to 18 months

00:10:51.660 that's not a good thing i don't know what's going to happen in the lawsuit hey like i know the

00:10:56.300 lawsuit the 300 million dollar lawsuit against you and i and others in the in the convoy is

00:11:00.860 is shaping up for its certification in the new year i believe and then we could possibly see

00:11:05.500 courtroom in in july maybe i believe but i mean we're under house arrest so i guess we'll have

00:11:13.180 to zoom it i guess we'll have to zoom it all right it's been enough time in the last little while i'm

00:11:20.140 good oh nice we got lots of people from manitoba in here hi guys nice to have you here i have missed

00:11:29.500 this province i just can't believe how much i you know it's it's been great being in medicine hut

00:11:34.620 honestly under house arrest because my family is there of course my grandson's but and my daughter

00:11:38.700 but i mean i sure tell you i miss watching the sun come up it's just been amazing to be back here and

00:11:44.620 back in the trees like we're right outside of riding mountain national park which is

00:11:48.540 in my opinion one of the most beautiful places in the whole country so yes it's quite nice up here

00:11:54.780 yeah so and then next i guess uh i'll be heading home on monday we'll be getting back on monday

00:12:02.700 i got the weekend here with my daughter and the kids and then we head back on monday and right

00:12:07.340 Right now I'm working on a trip next week, possibly for work, so we'll see how that all

00:12:12.300 shakes out.

00:12:13.300 But yeah, no, I honestly, I can't complain.

00:12:16.960 It's been a pretty decent time out here, yeah, it is what it is, my business is going good.

00:12:27.540 I was out in the truck for a couple of weeks, I went to Nebraska twice for new combines

00:12:32.100 and I did a couple of Saskatchewan runs here in the last little while and I kind of thought,

00:12:36.100 You know, I was supposed to go to North Battle for today and pick up a combine from the Ritchie Brothers sale,

00:12:39.800 but the customer requested that we haul this unit clean and salt-free.

00:12:44.700 I woke up this morning and the snow started and the highways were wet, so I decided to abandon.

00:12:50.140 And Jonathan and I spent the afternoon in the shop working on trucks.

00:12:53.140 We destroyed the shop with oil and grease and you name it, but we had a good day working in the shop

00:12:58.740 and pulling parts up, parched trucks out in the back, trying to...

00:13:01.360 trying to get an older truck in 1998 kenworth working for a winter truck for me so i can i can

00:13:08.080 retire old blue but it's a work in progress and there's a lot of stuff to fix on it so but

00:13:13.040 thankfully you know we work hard and our hands i still have hands that are covered in grease

00:13:18.000 and stained in grease i guess so as well yeah oh right on hey how's the weather back there anyways

00:13:25.760 it was it got really cold here but it was it warmed up a bit today yeah it was only zero

00:13:30.560 today but it's snowed i think it's still snowing out right now probably a couple inches today's

00:13:35.440 good nice well i guess it's that time of year perfect shop okay well we got tom here in the

00:13:41.360 background but before i bring tom on i just want to give another shout out to our good friend ruby

00:13:46.240 um kennedy who is helping us uh with this with the with the show um helping us behind the scenes

00:13:53.040 and i posted the other day ruby is one of the most talented creative women i've ever met she

00:13:58.480 can do anything from crafting to writing books apparently and now puzzle books so ruby i'm going

00:14:04.320 to plug ruby's book she's got this very cute hang on here there it is canadian convoy puzzle book

00:14:11.040 that she did and i have the i have a copy of the original one here um but it's really cute she's

00:14:18.080 got where sudoku is in it crossword puzzles word search puzzles word scrambles so it's on amazon

00:14:25.840 if you want to pick it up and it's called the canadian convoy puzzle book and um yeah i got

00:14:31.920 got to support ruby she's uh ruby has been just a absolute staunch reporter or reporter supporter

00:14:39.120 of ours um for like right from the beginning so again ruby just thanks for everything that you do

00:14:45.840 and thanks for helping us out with the show most people don't know this but while tamara and i were

00:14:50.560 under conditions over the last number of years ruby was the one watching the facebook pages and

00:14:54.880 posting and keeping people updated on that so ruby's a huge supporter and quite a involved piece

00:15:00.400 of the of the working material behind the scenes so we thank ruby and we appreciate her yeah and

00:15:07.760 and we have to say too not just for us i mean the entire movement the whole convoy i mean she

00:15:12.880 you know she was involved in coots or supporting poots um she just goes above and beyond to really

00:15:19.440 to support anybody that's been i guess the subject of lawfare or persecution um so she's a great 1.00

00:15:26.240 friend to the community and once again thank you ruby all right again oh brian how can i share your

00:15:33.760 chat live i'm not good at this facebook live thing gosh you're totally asking the wrong person as you

00:15:38.480 can see i'm even bare bonzing the show i have no idea what i'm doing i can barely get through the

00:15:44.960 comments here okay we've got tom burraso joining us again tonight welcome tom nice to see you how

00:15:51.680 you doing i'm good i'm good i'm a little bit under the weather got a crappy sounding voice

00:15:57.120 but other than that i'm okay i'm i'm doing good but uh you know what i i love this idea of uh

00:16:03.360 sharing you know where people are watching from i uh i saw a couple of places i've either lived

00:16:11.600 or i was posted beside like i was posted to london so when i see saint thomas i know it well

00:16:18.320 um napani which i spend a lot of time in napani in that area and uh my favorite restaurant in

00:16:26.080 napani is actually the loaf and ale it's down on dundas it's a great little restaurant i go

00:16:31.120 every time i'm there i'll probably be there at least once or twice in the very near future i 0.88

00:16:36.320 I won't say when it's those undesirables find me. 0.93

00:16:40.280 Um, but yeah, like I was posted to Petawawa for a couple of years and I

00:16:43.880 used to, I thought we were the undesirables Tom. 0.93

00:16:48.740 You're the famous undesirables. 0.75

00:16:50.920 I'm just the infamous. 0.95

00:16:53.120 Yeah.

00:16:53.960 But, uh, you know, I was posted to Petawawa so I, I know Pembroke well, uh,

00:16:58.100 I used to own a house in Pembroke as well.

00:17:00.780 So it's nice to see all these places I've been to in, in, you know, the

00:17:05.640 people that are living there now so that's pretty cool yeah it's really neat to see like where people

00:17:12.260 because people really are watching from all over so i mean it's just it's amazing it's absolutely

00:17:16.880 everyone everyone always talks about avril lavigne being from napanee i i'm not even i'm sure she's

00:17:22.820 never been there niagara falls i just saw one pop up that's my hometown you know i'm born and

00:17:28.640 raised in niagara falls nobody knows that but it's true ontario what a beautiful area yeah

00:17:35.340 ontario is beautiful too i just like and different areas are just so different and unique too

00:17:41.360 yeah and look at this guy this kevin guy he's a truck driver from saskatchewan and he's

00:17:47.820 chilling out in mexico right now kevin you know he's an amazing guy him and his family

00:17:52.720 amazing people from uh the priestville area so i hope you're enjoying the warm weather down

00:17:58.620 there Kevin hi Kevin she's come from Ontario sorry go ahead Chris no they

00:18:06.720 said they were there they were with us in Ottawa well I don't really have

00:18:16.680 anything picked really to discuss per se tonight I did post a video of a really

00:18:21.540 I just was going through my phone actually I'm quite surprised at some of

00:18:24.900 the stuff I found on my phone so I'm gonna start posting because remember I

00:18:28.400 was banned from social media for two years so all of my photos and stuff i and then even when i was

00:18:34.080 let back on social media i wasn't even allowed to like post the words freedom convoy um or else i

00:18:39.840 would have been sent back to jail so i was just going through my phone and i found all this stuff

00:18:43.520 and i came across a video um recorded in the hotel room of a ctv news report coming up as we were we

00:18:52.720 were still in uh on our way to kenora i believe or had gotten to kenora that night and i just thought

00:18:58.960 it was a really um i watched it and and of course now knowing what we all know and what we learned 0.69

00:19:04.880 from from the poec um to see it again through through that lens was kind of humorous and and 0.82

00:19:13.280 i think i guess even more obvious hindsight of course is 2020 but um it was a little more obvious

00:19:19.280 So I was going to play it, play that, uh, that clip.

00:19:25.760 You know how I, you know, how I met Ruby though, while you're setting that up.

00:19:31.100 Ruby emailed me one day, probably a year and a half or longer ago.

00:19:36.360 And, uh, she was Googling my name and she is the one who found tomorazo.com

00:19:43.400 and it was purchased by a person we shall not say his name it was purchased my my name my personal

00:19:53.260 name was purchased as a domain name by a person and uh who was directing all of his book sales

00:20:01.120 uh you know if you went on tomrazzo.com it was taking you to this guy's books

00:20:07.640 And so Brendan Miller, the awesome Brendan Miller,

00:20:10.400 had sent him a letter, a cease and desist immediately.

00:20:14.740 He did, and he just decided to redirect it to himself

00:20:19.160 in another undesirable, unfortunately, on an interview

00:20:22.860 with Sheila Gunn-Reed, who I have no issues with at all.

00:20:27.240 But I asked Sheila to leave it up there,

00:20:30.720 leave the interview up there.

00:20:32.080 So if anyone's curious later after the podcast,

00:20:35.660 Go on TomMarazzo.com and see who I'm not talking about.

00:20:41.400 Do we have baggage with certain people?

00:20:43.840 We do, we do, we certainly do.

00:20:46.520 But the worst thing you can do is mention some of those people

00:20:48.800 because then you give them the attention

00:20:50.380 that they crave so much.

00:20:51.360 So, it's true.

00:20:53.120 Something about wrestling with a pig in the mud,

00:20:54.900 you know, especially when you're on social media.

00:20:57.420 You gotta admit, Tom, you gotta admit. 0.89

00:20:59.500 I mean, that is a pretty good troll.

00:21:02.140 You know, I mean, it's actually a pretty good idea.

00:21:04.980 was impressed i was impressed i i got trolled really great actually and i had to laugh so

00:21:09.700 we were doing um janet and jack mclaren uh from us from ottawa just at ottawa there

00:21:15.620 um have you know put together they're so good to us they put together little fundraisers

00:21:19.620 or suppers for chris and i whenever we're in ottawa and um and uh so they put together

00:21:27.300 they were putting together another fundraiser and they sent this flyer out with my email address on

00:21:31.300 it and then all of a sudden i'm getting um i'm getting emails from nasa martha stewart living

00:21:38.340 all these really weird science clinics and all these looks totally inappropriate you know and

00:21:43.940 i had to laugh because i realized like and of course you got to go through i have to go through

00:21:47.860 and delete every single one and i had hundreds of them and literally all i could do was laugh

00:21:52.980 because i was like you know what like i can't even be mad that's actually pretty brilliant

00:21:57.300 well i email address and sign it up for subscribe to every website possible i i thought it was like

00:22:05.380 i'll give this guy credit i thought it was pretty ingenious to to go and do that and it's i suppose 0.95

00:22:10.500 my own fault for not purchasing my own name as a domain but god you got to be a real monster to be

00:22:17.780 out there attacking me but then use my name to drive people to your book anyway this is my

00:22:24.740 Hello, my latest.

00:22:25.760 I've been getting messages from people the last couple of days.

00:22:27.800 I'm not sure if you can see this or not, but CB tracking, LTD permanently closed.

00:22:36.040 Are you getting some bad reviews?

00:22:38.740 No, no, no, not a lot of bad reviews.

00:22:41.180 Just the fact that my business is apparently closed, but I mean, I needed a couple of days

00:22:45.920 off, so it's okay, but you know, I have to then now log into Google and see if I can

00:22:51.340 change that.

00:22:51.920 But I don't have an office where people can just show up at my office and say hi.

00:22:56.940 And so the address actually on Google for the company was my old address when I had, you know, a bunch of trucks on the road years ago in Swift Current.

00:23:04.260 And since then, I've slowed the business down and kind of moved it to the farm.

00:23:08.560 And we run everything off the farm here now.

00:23:10.580 So people, somebody did that on Google, and that's kind of cool. 0.91

00:23:15.440 Did they try calling your number to tell your boss what a horrible employee and person you are?

00:23:20.760 I've got a few phone calls from different people and they're quite you know surprised when they get the reaction out of me when somebody tells me I'm a bad person I usually laugh at them and tell them that their mother probably didn't say that and then they get really mad so I'm not really worried about right now any of my good customers out there they know how to get a hold of me they know that we can still keep trucking and I don't rely off Google for my business reviews or business so

00:23:48.600 You know, I do think we should do a whole episode and we're just going to talk in generalities, tell the background story, but not mention any names because you know the rule, right? Like you can get attacked all day long on social. The moment you actually step up and defend yourself, you get accused of being divisive and contributing to the divide.

00:24:10.060 it's like wait a minute there's got to be a difference between defending myself and my my

00:24:15.340 name my reputation and setting the record straight and actively going out there and

00:24:20.700 picking a fight with somebody i mean that's a that's a very different thing right one is self

00:24:24.700 defense and it's like i'm the one being defamed or whatever it is and i've got a pretty thick skin on

00:24:30.780 this stuff but if i'm the one being attacked why am i also now being victim shamed for defending

00:24:37.100 myself you know it's a weird weird thing important rule about trolling on social media is the minute

00:24:42.780 you start to defend yourself you're already starting to lose yeah we've already lost yeah

00:24:47.900 these people ridiculous accusations anyone that knows who we are as human beings know that

00:24:53.660 we're not the people that some people make us out to be and the minute you start defending yourself

00:24:57.580 that's why i use a little ounce of humor and sarcasm in my response to certain people and i

00:25:01.980 I think it's the best way to do it because it gets under their skin.

00:25:06.300 It's true. It is true. And I, and I, I have to say, Chris,

00:25:09.060 I've over the years really enjoyed, um, your, your videos.

00:25:14.460 So, um, you know, there's one, I, one video,

00:25:19.320 one video, one troll video you did that was very,

00:25:22.360 very concerning about, uh, three and a half years ago.

00:25:25.800 And it had something to do with you trolling the Toronto, uh, police and the city

00:25:30.300 toronto in the middle of the night it was you know what so i i gotta tell you from from my perspective

00:25:43.340 because i i woke up uh really early in the morning and i i get everybody sent me this video on tick

00:25:51.900 tock and for the record i never heard of tick tock until i met chris and uh everyone's sending me

00:25:57.420 this tech talk video and it's chris basically saying all right ottawa if you don't like us

00:26:02.920 fine we're going to toronto and he's doing this in the middle of the night right and i'm like

00:26:08.180 and i get this at 4 7 a.m and i'm like oh my god this is this is bad and then i thought wait a

00:26:15.940 minute wait a minute this is hilarious and and then like a few minutes later like i get a text

00:26:22.140 from chris going yeah tom maybe i should have told you about that and i'm like no we're good

00:26:26.420 we're good it's perfect like and when we get to the poec this is the funny part we get to the poec

00:26:32.420 and they talked about this because there was bus loads of of uh police that were being redeployed

00:26:38.660 from toronto all the way to ottawa chris does the tiktok video they stop the buses turn them around

00:26:44.340 and set up barriers all around queens park recall all these officers and it's like okay wait a minute

00:26:51.380 guys is there anyone in the toronto police department that has a brain in their head

00:26:56.340 with a couple of brain cells they could rub together and to say why don't we put some

00:27:01.140 officers out on the highway because it's a four hour drive let's see let's call our friends in

00:27:08.180 ottawa and see if any of the trucks actually leave the city of ottawa in the middle of the night

00:27:12.980 and maybe just maybe we'll put a few cars on the highway to see if a convoy rolls towards toronto

00:27:19.700 but no no they didn't they stopped they just panicked they panicked they stopped the buses

00:27:24.900 turn them around and put a big giant barricade for months around queen's park so there's because

00:27:32.580 people need to take notice when there's there's a key to my trolling and my

00:27:36.100 my online visit videos when i blow a kiss at the end of a video i'm mocking whatever video i just

00:27:43.380 made and i did that after that i blew a kiss and uh you know i walked in i think i walked into the

00:27:49.860 ark hotel and i had people yelling at me the next day like you can't do this and i kind of laughed

00:27:55.280 back and i'm like i can do this i will do this and i'll probably do this again you need to you

00:28:00.120 know learn your place this is me yeah and she did yeah but you know what i mean the part about was

00:28:09.080 We were watching the news that night.

00:28:11.940 I think we must have had like a road captain's meeting or some meeting sometimes.

00:28:15.480 We were all in the same room watching the news.

00:28:18.420 And they were reporting on Chris Barber's TikTok video.

00:28:21.340 And they're going on and on, making it feel like we're a serious organization.

00:28:26.620 And they seem to have some robust and sophisticated intelligence operation.

00:28:33.360 It was absolute nonsense over a joke.

00:28:37.180 over him over him making a joke but i mean as we saw over and over again and continue to see to

00:28:43.300 this day i mean it's just a knee-jerk reaction after knee-jerk reaction all of their responses

00:28:49.000 were had no logic or law even law behind a lot of them it was just emotional and knee-jerk

00:28:54.880 reactions and every decision that they made was they would shoot themselves in the foot

00:28:59.120 constantly it's the wrong one absolutely they'll expose themselves you just need to give them the

00:29:04.400 Yeah. And I think, I think we'll see, I think Tamera, you probably have queued up a couple of examples of the level of incompetence between the politicians and themselves.

00:29:15.320 And I do want to remind everybody, Tamera, you touched on this two weeks ago, that as early as the 27th of January, we learned this at the POEC, early as the 27th of January, the PMO's office was saying, don't put too much pressure on this convoy because we don't want to push out the crazies.

00:29:34.400 i don't know who they're talking about but they were just like there's people there

00:29:37.520 it was actually i'm gonna it was actually um july the 24th it was before i even shook chris barber's

00:29:46.720 hand uh july initial text sorry january 24th so it was january 24th and that's that was when chris

00:29:57.360 came to pick me up and the same day there was this text message exchange between mary liz powers who

00:30:02.320 who was the issues advisor to Justin Trudeau,

00:30:05.780 and Alexander Cohen, the director of communications

00:30:08.800 for Medicino's public safety office.

00:30:11.640 And in that, in that text exchange,

00:30:17.460 you can clearly see, I don't know if you can see that,

00:30:21.380 this text exchange basically where they're talking about,

00:30:24.580 okay, got quick responses, people are into it.

00:30:27.560 So this is Mary Liz Powers texting Alex.

00:30:30.860 the pmo texting the public safety officer let me know if your boss is is too happy to help however

00:30:37.340 i can just had a chat with alex at public safety who had a bit of an interesting idea as you saw

00:30:43.580 in the in the what does that say it's pretty small in the good chat the truckers convoy and some of

00:30:49.980 their more extreme comments i.e calling for a january 6th style insurrection nobody that i know

00:30:56.060 of in the convoy called for a january 6th insurrection the government wanted that though

00:31:00.700 yes they did yep are getting more coverage in media alex was serving whether there'd be interest

00:31:07.420 in his boss doing some media on this eventually he was chatting with mendicino about it right

00:31:12.140 before he went into cabinet retreat i think there could be an opportunity to get in on this

00:31:18.460 growing narrative of the truckers particularly with the research that lrb is doing into their

00:31:24.060 backers into our backers canadians our canadian uh middle class donors uh my thoughts of the

00:31:33.740 framing here would be similar to what the pm and blair said last year when january 6th occurred

00:31:39.180 our democracy is something we need to nurture and protect every day

00:31:45.740 so keep in mind this is the narrative that they're that they're creating so then this is some of the

00:31:49.900 points that they were making like that they were going to talk about we will always support the

00:31:53.260 right to peaceful protest some of the calls that organizers of these events are making are

00:31:58.700 concerning and we're taking them seriously so these are all the talking points that they're

00:32:02.140 coming up with we'll continue to monitor the situation closely the fine line to walk would

00:32:07.260 be to ensure that we are not looking like we're directing the police which obviously is not the

00:32:12.140 goal here hoping to canvas your thoughts alex said he'd come back to me with a proposal this afternoon

00:32:20.300 when he gets to chat with mendicino and then he says thanks i had an initial chat with my boss

00:32:26.460 marco and he's supportive but wants to wait a day or two there's a danger that if we come down too

00:32:32.060 hard they might push out the crazies and she says that's fair global and others are working on

00:32:39.500 stories maybe we see how those land so that was january the 24th again before

00:32:49.660 i had even shook chris's hand

00:32:51.680 and so then he's doing things like this so i'm going to bring up this clip and you guys just

00:32:58.020 tell me if you want to stop we can just kind of watch it through and we'll pause it and talk about

00:33:01.520 a few things but i'm going to start playing this so this was ctv news ottawa on january the 26th

00:33:08.140 um the convoy got as far as kenora ontario that night so we were still on our way but just listen

00:33:15.220 to some of the things that they're saying.

00:33:18.000 And there's one particular thing in here

00:33:20.000 that I'm going to see if you guys are going to catch.

00:33:33.880 Pretty quiet.

00:33:45.220 What we're starting to see is there are many different groups contributing to the dialogue. 0.99

00:33:50.140 That guy was a prick. 0.97

00:33:52.480 Did I just say that? 1.00

00:33:54.160 Mm-hmm.

00:33:57.220 Okay, this is the part I want you to listen to because this is really interesting.

00:34:00.340 I hope everybody can hear this.

00:34:01.560 I didn't realize it was so quiet.

00:34:04.800 Is your volume on that?

00:34:06.180 Where is that?

00:34:06.900 I can't seem to turn it up, but hang on here.

00:34:09.500 So listen to what Peter Sillily, this is former police chief Peter Sillily.

00:34:13.220 so he's they're saying that communications with all the organizers have been positive

00:34:24.900 and productive and that the only threats that they had received were from counter protesters

00:34:29.060 and and talking about people attack you know joining the convoy for their own agendas

00:34:39.540 yeah like they just make it all up right they make it up that's right exactly but i mean

00:34:46.180 they're they're they're flat out admitting that there was other groups that were joining us i

00:34:49.620 mean this is the this is the thing that the crown prosecutor wanted to try and prove throughout our

00:34:53.620 whole trial was that we were controlling everyone we weren't controlling anyone like you know we

00:34:59.220 were we were there participating just as much as anybody else was but you know somebody has to try

00:35:05.140 you know people have to come together and keep the basic things organized you

00:35:35.140 with you so interestingly enough as i was getting some stuff ready for the show tonight i went back

00:35:42.320 through some of the all the poec evidence that i have and i have like the briefing of the ministers

00:35:46.480 with these same talking points the memos the emails that were going back and forth so

00:35:50.660 you know even everything that that uh a good old catherine mckinney there um 0.91

00:35:55.380 speak it speak it in french mckinney um yeah regurgitating talking voice who who was with

00:36:03.600 her at the poec i don't know if many people need to know that but the public emergency guy

00:36:07.660 of these two people when they testified the poec and and i believe they gave their chief under

00:36:20.200 english but when it come to cross-examination when when brendan miller cross-examined they

00:36:24.940 spoke in french just to be as ignorant as possibly and it showed with matthew microaggression flurry

00:36:32.200 that he was the guy that came up with the microaggressions and how you know they were 0.95

00:36:36.520 phantom honking we were not the phantom honking and that that was the moment brendan miller was

00:36:42.900 like just we brendan you know like hear you hear you yeah yeah that's right that's right

00:36:51.060 all right i'll play this one what do they mean by far right

00:36:56.120 it's all messaging tom i mean that's exactly it right they they immediately were calling

00:37:03.420 you know they basically what they said in that statement was that so there has been some threats

00:37:09.280 from the from the counter protesters but there's but they didn't say that we were peaceful and

00:37:14.540 polite they said but there's fear that the far right elements are gonna or this could turn

00:37:19.740 violent or whatever so they're just planting the seeds already that's all it is control the message

00:37:24.060 you control the narrative and the government's really good at controlling the narrative

00:37:27.180 yeah yeah

00:37:28.860 the six-point yellow star and freedom deco on its door historians have noted that yellow

00:37:37.660 stars were used to identify jewish people during the holocaust what's equally alarming

00:37:43.420 is this the promotion by some elected officials that there's a risk of food shortage canada's

00:37:53.020 transport minister saying it's intentionally spreading fear and panic but what may be

00:37:57.480 scarier to some Ottawa residents is not knowing what exactly to expect as police prepare for

00:38:03.640 anything I'll tell you what you can expect regular Canadians coming say can I please have my rights

00:38:10.340 and freedoms back like listen to the fear that they're that they're trying to manifest in people's

00:38:15.380 minds do you know what you didn't see during convoy you didn't see any smoke grenades thrown

00:38:19.420 into christian churches you've never seen anyone chanting death to anyone but boy in the last

00:38:24.460 number of years you have heard that from other protests i'm not going to name any names

00:38:30.140 so here's trish berguson now trish berguson you remember trish right

00:38:34.140 the exact number of participants in the main demonstration is not currently known

00:38:39.260 anticipating tens of thousands both the mayor and police chief have said if you're not participating

00:38:44.780 the rally do not come downtown if you don't have to they're preparing for major traffic tie-up the

00:38:51.180 possibility that intersections will be blocked and yes even violence and yes even violence

00:39:01.500 prepare yourselves yeah the drivers and the farmers and the secretaries and the nurses are coming

00:39:08.460 like come on you know this is this is a gaslight we've said it before like i mean

00:39:13.980 in some people's minds in people's minds that actually watch and and drake this take it all in

00:39:20.380 this is the this is the image that they're getting so tell me how we had a chance with

00:39:24.380 some of those people out there i was saying tomorrow i was reading through my uh my my notebook

00:39:29.660 that we that i've carried with me for the last two years during court and i went through the pages of

00:39:34.140 the people that testified against us how many was there i guess seven seven people from the

00:39:39.180 citizens of ottawa that testified against tamara and i at our trials and they told some pretty

00:39:43.820 outlandish outlandish horrible stories none of them had any interactions with tamara or i none

00:39:52.700 of them i never met neither one of us have met any of them but they were allowed to sit on the

00:39:58.060 stand and spew garbage for what was it two weeks i think it was oh my gosh it felt like two years

00:40:04.460 i felt like i don't have any hair left but what i did have i was looking for tweezers to pull

00:40:11.820 and again i think um yeah how many did you say there were seven witnesses i think five of the

00:40:18.060 seven five of the seven witnesses are named in the in the lawsuit against us the civil suit

00:40:23.340 and over seven how does that maybe it was i can't remember how many exactly it was but again it begs

00:40:28.940 the question like i would think that would be a conflict of interest i mean a witness on the stand

00:40:33.660 has a vested interest in um you know twisting things or exaggerating things when they have

00:40:40.140 you know 300 million dollars on the line so i always thought that that was absolutely

00:40:45.180 like ridiculous that they could even testify in the first place but

00:40:50.040 i remember one guy he had he was complaining because he had to walk his child down the street

00:40:57.640 for 10 blocks to the skating rink so he could play hockey and he laced his kid up in the car

00:41:04.000 and made his kid walk down the street with his skates on i mean who in the hell does that 0.64

00:41:09.780 As a parent's job, you laced your child's skates up in the Hockey Green Quarry, normally Canadian.

00:41:16.520 And I think if I remember correctly, the judge pushed back on that too. 0.73

00:41:20.540 Also, that was the gentleman that demanded a French translator, remember?

00:41:26.220 And then the judge found out halfway through his testimony that he could actually speak French and understood everything.

00:41:33.680 But they had to pay to bring a translator in for him.

00:41:36.100 was yeah and then yeah she'd asked him something and he kind of answered and then she's like do

00:41:41.720 you speak english yeah he was fluent in both french and english but as being a total remember

00:41:47.820 vivian from the church she's seen children with camouflaged pants and someone had a lead

00:41:53.160 t-shirt on no they were blasting lead zeppelin music out of their rig out of their semi-truck

00:42:00.740 and it was very loud and she did say now that she is a product of the 60s and she's been known to

00:42:06.040 get down on her day but oh it was too noisy and then she went on about the kids in camo like

00:42:12.020 those little canadian militant camo wearing children right oh my god we can look this is

00:42:19.800 absolutely one guy was he had to buy headset or uh earphones because it was too loud but he couldn't

00:42:25.480 go out of the streets because he was scared for his life and he had to order them up no he had

00:42:29.360 to send his girlfriend out to pick them up because he was too scared to leave the house

00:42:33.780 he was really eccentric that guy that guy we were his childhood bullies and he was standing up to us

00:42:41.240 i can't remember what his name was i don't probably shouldn't say it anyway but i remember

00:42:45.720 his first name but anyways he was he was very he was very sensitive very sensitive and then yes he

00:42:52.760 went on and on about these noise cancelling headphones because he did a big deal that he

00:42:57.380 had to go out and spend extra money on noise cancelling headphones that he still uses today

00:43:01.680 he had to say and then after a lot of wrangling to get it out of him um we find like because he

00:43:08.180 said well he couldn't i asked diane i think it was your lawyer who was going to cross him first

00:43:14.080 and i said you know well how did he get the headphones because if he's claiming that he

00:43:17.820 couldn't leave his apartment how did he go down how did he pick them up and if he's claiming that

00:43:22.680 there was they couldn't get any traffic down there then how did he get it delivered so so he finally

00:43:27.540 admits that they went to the store to purchase them and then he finally admits that he was too

00:43:32.320 scared to go so he sent his wife girlfriend remember he he kept calling her partner and

00:43:38.620 then we came back from a break and he had to let the courtroom know that he's not gay that his

00:43:43.720 partner is female and that people were bullying him online because they thought he was from

00:43:48.500 you know you can't make this stuff up and i i kind of thought maybe he looked a little flamboyant

00:43:55.580 it's how you can walk it in with you know our shop our hourglass figure with like pink highlights on

00:44:01.820 his clothes and i thought okay that's fine you know perfect but he did have he was very feminine

00:44:07.980 like he did have a lot of very feminine quality definitely he was very sensitive he was definitely

00:44:14.220 bullied lying on his bathroom floor crying with yes he's the guy that couldn't hammer because he

00:44:22.140 doesn't know how to hold a hammer but you know you heard these stories from some of these people

00:44:28.040 and then you you know you probably read the blog uh a night with the untouchables that david mayberry

00:44:34.100 wrote and david mayberry lived in an apartment on ken street directly over top of the protest

00:44:40.360 directly over top of it and um eva and i went and had dinner with him and and his lovely lovely wife

00:44:47.500 when we were in ottawa for the poec and so and then he wrote an article about it and he was

00:44:53.520 watching what the news was saying and he's looking down on us literally looking out his window down

00:44:58.760 on on on the convoy and so he's listening to the news and seeing what's happening down there so he

00:45:04.440 decided to go out and talk to people and he said um it's a beautiful beautiful piece it's called

00:45:09.940 a night with the untouchables by david mayberry i wish i had a link for it but it is you know he

00:45:15.880 just went out to talk to people and to find out why they were there what they wanted and and i think

00:45:21.560 even that one evening i think changed changed him i i remember meeting them uh in the apartment

00:45:31.160 uh yeah obviously tamara you and i were not allowed to be uh left alone in a room together

00:45:38.520 um but yeah i remember meeting them and it was a big surprise to him how viral his his article went

00:45:45.880 um but it was really really well done i do remember reading it a long time after

00:45:50.840 um so yeah that was that was really good that was good it was good to meet him you know that's the

00:45:56.520 one thing i have to say when we were at the at the commission itself all the amazing people that i got

00:46:02.040 to meet like that's kind of the that was the best part for me was the poac was so many amazing people

00:46:09.000 that uh you know we got to meet when we were there and yeah like come on she was waiting for us

00:46:17.480 every day outside the pbc greeting us with love and hugs and kisses yes in in calls of terrorism

00:46:26.120 oh my god are you talking about dina yeah oh wow wasn't that something i have never seen i mean

00:46:34.520 i grew up in small towns in saskatchewan and yes i have lived in like moose john medicine at little

00:46:40.120 cities but ottawa was quite an experience for me just you know like in meeting people like that i

00:46:46.120 mean sure they're like i've never seen a protest before in real life sure we had little rallies

00:46:51.400 out front of the tim hortons on 13th avenue but you know not a protest full-on protest

00:46:56.920 and then to have like people like her that actually you know she had that little noise 1.00

00:47:01.240 thing she was just yelling and screaming and uh you know we were talking earlier that she tried 0.84

00:47:06.600 to get in behind us or jump into our seat when we were at the poec and that was a bit of a problem

00:47:12.360 and so but and then to see her behavior you know it wasn't just us she this is just her profession 0.99

00:47:19.880 i think she's just a professional protester somebody pays her somebody pays her according

00:47:26.360 to her it's justin trudeau she has a video where she says that i saw something like that yeah 1.00

00:47:32.360 she spent a little time in the old county slammer because she went a little too far in her rhetoric 0.98

00:47:37.320 and got busted on that so uh you know karma has a way of coming to bite you in the royal butt so

00:47:45.720 but even still her case was kind of strange because she ended up getting denied bail

00:47:49.960 too and i think there was some kind of you know questionable things happening around that too but

00:47:56.740 i mean it was just really unfortunate that it really like she was allowed to continue her

00:48:01.200 behavior for a long time until it actually started directly affecting the police until she started

00:48:07.220 getting in their way and it's too bad that they they let it escalate escalate that far and yeah

00:48:12.060 chris dacy i think was there and they posted the video of her actually committing assault

00:48:18.360 uh which was the first time they arrested her um but then i think she had a reoccurrence of an

00:48:25.980 arrest but yeah it was a breach i think i think there was a breach yeah yeah i'll never forget

00:48:32.320 sitting in the courtroom and this is the sad part of this story if you take her her young daughter

00:48:36.980 along with her wherever she went and yeah yeah her young daughter to this stuff on the side of

00:48:42.640 the road and the protesting and all that and she brought her daughter into the courtroom and and

00:48:46.700 and if anybody that attended the the trial of tamara there was a dog that would come in the

00:48:50.620 therapy dog and his name was kaboom it was a a greyhound a retired greyhound and she took a

00:48:59.420 liking to that dog and that dog took a liking to to that young lady and and boy you could just see

00:49:04.540 the smile on her face when that dog came around and it was quite uh quite awesome to witness

00:49:09.420 she is she was a sweet girl i remember um they were just walking out and i heard this little

00:49:17.120 voice say hi tamara just like so sweet and i so i knew immediately it was a little kid and i looked

00:49:21.800 and i'm like hi and she smiled and waved and then i looked at who she was walking out with and it

00:49:26.280 was her mother and i was like oh my gosh wow i think that's honestly a little bit unsettling

00:49:33.520 on like you know it's um i mean how's that kid gonna grow up what's she gonna think when she

00:49:39.600 grows up and people say the same thing about me you've seen the tweets too i'm sure like

00:49:43.920 those poor grandkids or her poor children they're gonna be so like ashamed or blah blah blah but

00:49:50.080 we have good families though and uh there's no doubt about that anyone that knows their

00:49:53.520 characters knows that we have good families we have good children and obviously you know

00:49:57.760 where are you right now because of that i spent the day with my kid and christmas is coming up

00:50:02.480 soon here i guess speaking of that i guess i should put up our email address in case you want

00:50:11.840 to ever email us some suggestions for the show things you want to hear guests you want to see

00:50:18.960 some hate mail that you want to send i do have more remember i had that letter i've got another

00:50:23.040 letter and my sister said waiting for me from z hooters only this time it's from saskatoon and

00:50:28.320 not regina so i'm eagerly awaiting uh delivery of that package but i think when i open it i might

00:50:34.160 put on some rubber gloves so 18house.arrest gmail.com is our email address if you want to get

00:50:41.440 in touch with us for any reason like i said love support hate mail whatever you need to get off

00:50:48.160 your chest can we talk a bit about the swastika and the uh the confederate flag i don't think

00:50:55.520 you can say that on youtube but yes we can we can talk about it maybe i said it wrong anyway but

00:51:03.200 i said it with an accent um you know here here's the funny thing i remember sitting in the audience

00:51:10.000 of the poec when thesis was being uh cross-examined and they laid out their whole um menu roadmap on

00:51:20.080 how they when they get they they detect out there in the world some sort of imve ideologically 0.82

00:51:26.320 motivated violent extremism and they laid out their whole entire road map and um so you know

00:51:34.080 basically saying we we get this thing and we do all these things to investigate it we take it

00:51:39.040 serious and blah blah blah blah blah and they went through this whole thing for a long time

00:51:42.960 brendan miller gets up to the microphone and shows a picture of the guy with the um the the union um

00:51:49.120 the confederate flag and with his truck and the license plate goes who's this guy they're like we

00:51:54.400 don't know he's like yeah you just walked us through this whole giant road map on how you

00:52:00.400 investigate imbe this guy and the other flag were all over the news and the guy's license plate is

00:52:07.280 here and you're telling us you don't know who it is and you know what somebody somebody told me

00:52:12.800 who has consulted for both rcmp and cisa said yeah they know who it is it was them

00:52:20.720 using it as a trap they were flying the the other flag the german flag and uh the dukes

00:52:26.720 of hazard flag and they were flying it all over the place rebel flag and and you know it still

00:52:32.480 had the wrinkles in it the only guy wearing the the the um cover over his face was the guy with

00:52:38.800 the flag and you know the the theory is that they were trying to draw people in the crowd that maybe 0.97

00:52:44.800 were were attracted to that ideology not necessarily paid agitators unless you want to count cses or

00:52:50.960 the rcmp getting paid but it was to draw people that ideologically aligned with that and so this

00:52:58.080 is why they were in the crowd and there of course the you know the video showed clearly that the

00:53:03.600 truckers chased them away and told them to take it down get lost and there's a photo very polite

00:53:08.720 Yeah. Taking that flag right into the Chateau Laurier, up the stairs,

00:53:14.600 which is exactly where the RCMP were headquartered and housed. Right.

00:53:18.740 So, you know, it was really, it was great on, uh,

00:53:22.040 Brendan's part to point that out after them, you know,

00:53:25.480 going through the roadmap of we take this serious and we investigate this way

00:53:29.400 and that way. It's like, who's this guy? Oh, we don't know.

00:53:32.180 Well, there's this license plate.

00:53:33.440 yeah like we were we were on every list we were profiled six ways from sunday again like before

00:53:40.380 we even left they were doing all this crazy stuff they put us on the imbe list but and then all of

00:53:46.100 these things but you know what they never did not one time call and have a conversation and just ask

00:53:52.760 about who we are what we were doing why we were doing what we were doing but instead they ran

00:53:58.300 around like chickens with their heads cut off in a freaking panic and and just went to like it's

00:54:03.380 it's astonishing to me and a lot of that stuff we found out after about the imve list and all that

00:54:09.300 stuff like are you kidding me do we want to go back to this guys um sleeping giant 1229 here

00:54:16.040 brings this point up does anybody remember the day when queen ramona was in town and was going

00:54:21.240 to play the canadian flag on fire i did a tiktok video it went a little wild they're telling all

00:54:26.860 the truckers what do we have in our trucks we have fire extinguishers you have one handy when

00:54:31.180 you see this crazy lunatic nut jar coming towards you with a lighter and a canadian flag grab your

00:54:36.640 fire extinguisher we were unsuccessful though there was just there was too many places to be 0.96

00:54:41.140 and she beat us to it and and she did burn up there though didn't you didn't you get up there

00:54:45.800 though we tried it was done before we came there but that call was i think we were in a meeting or

00:54:50.940 something i remember that we were in a meeting or something and you got a call or a text and you took

00:54:54.880 off she showed up she showed up in her magic caravan in front of the ark and was causing a

00:55:01.360 whole bunch of problems out front of the ark and and danny bulford was out there and i see danny

00:55:06.740 yelling at a bunch of our own guys because our guys were climbing on the hood of her truck to

00:55:11.300 to get rid of her like not climbing on the hood but basically trying to get rid of her but they

00:55:16.220 were putting themselves at risk right so danny was trying to deal with it i went down the street to

00:55:20.500 tell the cops that she's here. And they're like, yeah, I don't care. And so she left the Ark and

00:55:26.140 went up and she set fire to the Canadian flag. And so the very next day, Danny Bolford and a group

00:55:32.860 of veterans and a group of truckers went up and did a reconsecration ceremony for the Canadian

00:55:41.740 flag and did a presentation on the importance of the Canadian flag, what it was about. But that was

00:55:46.560 never the story, right? The story was that the truckers burned the Canadian flag, right?

00:55:50.980 It had nothing to do with us. She was a no nut job, always was a nut job. 0.95

00:55:54.920 She tried to get into the, she tried to get into our command center too at the other hotel 1.00

00:55:58.700 and Thomas basically just told her to go pound sand, like get lost.

00:56:02.700 What did she do after Convoy? She settled in the little village of Richmond, Saskatchewan

00:56:07.580 and, you know, basically put that community in terror for a number of years until SWAT

00:56:11.800 team finally, I think she's in house arrest right now in Regina. She's, she's not in

00:56:16.280 canadian she calls herself the queen of canada and she's got a loyal following and for some reason

00:56:22.520 i'm not sure but she's straight off the for coconuts for breakfast well chris do you remember

00:56:29.660 when you and i were in um in peterborough we watched that documentary i can't there's a couple

00:56:35.300 of them but the one that you had done most of the shows yeah and right around that time she showed

00:56:40.940 up in peterborough and convinced a bunch of people from peterborough to go to the police station and

00:56:45.720 attempt a citizen's arrest against police officers and these poor people literally i watched the

00:56:51.720 video they all like one of them got punched right in the face and dragged inside the police station

00:56:56.200 and i have a really good friend who's a peterborough police officer you know and um i was like what are

00:57:02.440 you doing like you didn't see romana out there doing it she sent other people to go and do the

00:57:07.640 dirty work and they got punched in the face by the police who you know like you don't go to the

00:57:12.760 police station arrest police like a citizen's arrest is meant for in the commission of a crime

00:57:18.600 not hey you i'm just gonna arrest you that would be kidnapping yeah it's heartbreaking to see people

00:57:29.880 get led down these paths it really really is well a friend of mine actually a lady that's close to

00:57:35.880 me um her mother uh she lives in a really ontario and um her mom is is a part of that group and you

00:57:45.320 know the queen was telling all of her subjects stop paying your mortgage stop paying your bills

00:57:50.920 we're going to take all the debt away send me all your money and she did and you know there's a good

00:57:55.400 possibility that eventually they're going to lose their house they had to try and take out a second

00:57:59.080 mortgage and um and this was a home that the mother and two of her daughters had purchased

00:58:05.000 together so that no matter what happened throughout their lives they would always have

00:58:08.420 a home and now because of this lady's blind faith and this crazy lady um they're in a bad spot

00:58:17.500 yeah you know and i want to touch on this poor thing that keith wilson got blamed on because of

00:58:22.560 me um so we were talking about queen romana and all these other groups that had shown up because

00:58:30.100 i mean she wasn't the only one there was a couple others that showed up and and the the day that

00:58:35.380 keith wilson testified um he got asked this question you know about people like romana

00:58:42.540 showing up and on the stand so let me back up before i give it away but him and i were talking

00:58:48.200 and he said yeah you know in my evidence in chief i got asked about this and talk they were asking

00:58:53.740 me about all these these people showing up that we had nothing to do with and i said yeah there

00:58:58.400 were there were some of them were so crazy they were like moths to a flame so keith gets up on

00:59:05.780 the stand they ask him about the crazies and he's like yep moths to a flame and man did he get

00:59:11.560 attacked on social media for saying that he did but it's the truth it's the truth it was it was

00:59:16.700 no different than everybody attacking peter solely for saying there's not a policing solution for this

00:59:21.420 there's only a political solution and i mean he basically lost his job over it but it was the truth

00:59:27.160 I know you know there was nothing for them to police yeah and it wasn't Keith's fault like I

00:59:33.220 I don't know if I planted or the suggestion but we were talking about it and that's the expression

00:59:37.980 I used and then he got on the stand said moth to a flame and man did he get attacked he that guy

00:59:44.380 gets so much abuse that poor guy oh I'm gonna shut up Odie says I'm absolutely loving your

00:59:52.260 podcast and look forward to it every week thanks for opening my eyes as i was one that was drinking

00:59:57.680 the kool-aid until the convoy love you all so much from ontario thank you od that's very sweet

01:00:02.800 that's very sweet yeah why don't we take some of these chats why don't we look at some of these

01:00:07.740 chats here that's one thing i want to do every episode and then i feel like a lot you know

01:00:11.940 especially if we have guests on by the time we get to the end there just doesn't seem to be any time

01:00:15.820 but we're already an hour into this show and it feels like it just started i know that's we could

01:00:20.860 just talk about it forever and ever there's so much now i now so now i can insist my pronoun is queen

01:00:27.520 well before you do that you you saw the um one bc in british columbia yes i wanted to bring that

01:00:39.580 they introduced the um march 11th as the freedom convoy annual statutory holiday

01:00:46.720 sure um and i i gotta say like if if anybody hasn't seen the documentary they put out uh two

01:00:53.660 days ago called uh making a killing it is unbelievably good um i i'm so proud of these

01:01:02.780 people for for having the guts to do what they have been doing uh inside the bc legislature and

01:01:08.920 every rebuttal that the government comes up with is you're a bigot you're a racist but i'm not going 0.71

01:01:14.040 answer your question. We're just tired of you being a bigot and a racist. It's like, okay, 0.99

01:01:18.040 then explain the evidence to us. That's what we're asking for. That like, and day after day,

01:01:24.280 after day, these two women take such a beating. I've met Dallas, Dallas Bode. She's a firecracker 1.00

01:01:33.720 and I met her in Phoenix, Arizona a few years ago at the AM Fest, Charlie Kirk's event down there.

01:01:40.360 what a firebird she i had an amazing conversation with her and that was when dallas was thinking

01:01:45.260 about running for politics and then she ran for politics and she got in i heard a rumor i seen

01:01:50.100 something online today said that john rust had stepped down as the bc that is they ousted him

01:01:55.660 yesterday yeah yeah really and then he wasn't gonna quit he said he wasn't quitting and he

01:02:01.900 wasn't getting pushed out and then of course first thing he resigned i really we were at the the we

01:02:08.160 unified conference when he was talking about you know setting up the bc conservative party and i

01:02:12.160 really like john i like what he had to say and but man i just seen a different side of things when he

01:02:17.720 got into power his opposition it seemed like he was just those true colors maybe showed and and

01:02:23.760 i'm glad that he's maybe taking a sideline and can we can we trust the politics in these days

01:02:29.380 to be honest it seems like there's a question i think that's that's such a huge problem and and i

01:02:34.380 I think because of the system, I think a lot of people,

01:02:38.660 a lot of good people get into politics with good intentions,

01:02:41.240 but you can only work within the system that you've got.

01:02:44.600 And, you know, you guys see it all the time.

01:02:46.160 Chris, you get it all the time.

01:02:47.140 And, Tom, you probably too.

01:02:48.240 Well, when are you going to run for politics?

01:02:49.840 When are you going to run?

01:02:50.580 Run for PM?

01:02:51.440 Run for this?

01:02:52.060 Run for office?

01:02:52.780 Well, I mean, there's not a single political party in Canada

01:02:55.800 that I would attach my name to, you know?

01:02:59.140 And, like, there just simply isn't.

01:03:01.580 So that's why we're announcing the start of the, what are we going to call the party?

01:03:08.460 Oh, the conspiracy theories are going to be going crazy now.

01:03:13.900 There it is.

01:03:15.080 That's what this is all about.

01:03:16.580 They planned the party to start.

01:03:19.020 I have got too many gears to shift and too much stuff to fix on trucks to be a politician.

01:03:24.800 But you know what?

01:03:26.000 I spoke to, I got to meet on the phone.

01:03:29.980 And I spoke to Dallas on Thanksgiving this year.

01:03:33.940 Awesome conversation.

01:03:35.140 Her and Tamara, like they're, they're my new heroes right now.

01:03:38.620 I really love what they're doing, but you know, it really upsets me in, in, you know,

01:03:43.540 to go back to Ontario examples, you had guys like Randy Hillier, even Belinda

01:03:48.020 Cara Halios, who I can't stand her husband, but I don't mind Belinda.

01:03:53.060 You got, oh God, he's a Ontario party.

01:03:57.740 um well i can't believe i can see his head is his face so clearly rick nichols you know all these

01:04:04.060 people stood on principle against doug ford there were seven mps i think four of them or mpps were

01:04:09.660 kicked out of the party over covid and then roman babber like all these people that stood on

01:04:15.260 principle during the covid days and the disgusting part is the voters don't don't reward integrity 0.99

01:04:22.860 and loyalty they punish it and they vote for their team and that really really frustrates me so now

01:04:28.860 there's a lot of rumors that uh bc is going to go into a snap election because the bc conservatives

01:04:35.340 are just in a complete spiraling free fall so now eb who by the way is from ontarable

01:04:42.700 he's from belleville ontario by the way he's talking about a snap election in in the brand

01:04:48.300 new year and they're only going to do it because john put the conservatives into a free fall

01:04:54.940 and now they're going to gobble up as many of those conservative seats as they can

01:05:00.140 unless people give their votes over to 1bc and you know and the my point about never rewarding

01:05:07.980 integrity by the voters is my concern is now that um you know unless bc wakes up and people start

01:05:15.180 supporting 1BC then tara and um dallas are not going to get re-elected because they're technically

01:05:22.780 not in one of the the mainstream hockey teams um and that's really sad you know because they're

01:05:29.020 doing so much good work there but they're not going to be rewarded for it and that frustrates

01:05:33.820 me when can we get back to voting for a constituent that will actually or voting for a member that

01:05:39.100 will actually stand for the constituents and not the party that they're elected to does the

01:05:43.660 parliament whether it be federal or provincial are supposed to have every individual district

01:05:48.540 represented in that that's but it's not it's actually represented by the party and the party

01:05:54.380 divided into right now just like society we need to get away from that we need that gone

01:06:00.620 and i don't know how it's chris that's the only reason why i even entertained running for the

01:06:06.780 ontario party because it was the first question i asked them do you whip votes in your party and

01:06:11.340 And they said, no, this party, you have a free vote.

01:06:14.580 It's up to the leader to court your vote, earn your vote and get you to.

01:06:20.520 Either agree or vote your conscious or vote for what your constituents want,

01:06:24.180 but it's a free vote to lead the party.

01:06:27.420 Derek Sloan is the leader.

01:06:28.500 Yeah.

01:06:29.020 Derek.

01:06:29.340 And I can't say enough about that, man.

01:06:32.160 I spoke with him a number of times.

01:06:33.600 I get text messages from him just checking in.

01:06:35.960 Derek Sloan is, I think what Canadian politics needs to be.

01:06:41.340 Yeah. And so that's why I even joined. Otherwise, I wouldn't have bothered with any other party if they were whipping votes. Because to me, what it does is it makes every MLA or MPP just an administrative assistant to the leader of the party. You're just an admin assistant in that riding.

01:06:59.540 you don't have any say or control and you don't care what the voters want which is why

01:07:03.940 here in ontarible with 124 constituencies most of them don't even answer or respond to their

01:07:11.040 constituents because they don't know they know they won't have to and they know that the voters

01:07:15.660 in ontario are so backwards in their thinking that they'll vote them in anyway like get this

01:07:21.580 after the convoy when doug ford was bragging about being the most restrictive leader in north america

01:07:28.360 and passed Bill 100, making it virtually illegal to protest with a vehicle.

01:07:33.820 We had an election in the June right after.

01:07:36.540 People were so terrified in Ontario, get this,

01:07:38.980 they were so terrified in Ontario of the Ontario Liberals beating the Conservatives

01:07:45.740 that they gave Doug Ford 20 more seats.

01:07:49.080 He had a super majority.

01:07:50.740 But get this, they were terrified federally of the Conservatives

01:07:54.940 in the elbows up crowd who voted for Doug Ford also voted for, uh, Mark Carney.

01:08:01.480 I, it makes no sense to me.

01:08:03.300 Like abuse me more, abuse me more, please.

01:08:08.960 Canadians have become conditioned to, you know, do you know how many conversations I've

01:08:13.020 had with blue collar, my trucker friends, my farmer, my rancher friends, and something

01:08:17.620 will come out of their mouth about how evil Donald Trump is.

01:08:20.300 And they say, are you worried about those tariffs?

01:08:22.980 but have you heard about the India tariffs on farming agriculture in Canada right now?

01:08:27.380 What about the Chinese tariffs?

01:08:29.140 Why don't we look inward right now?

01:08:30.880 You guys are busy playing the ponder game to something that the legacy media told you to be scared about right now

01:08:37.700 when all you have to do is look inward.

01:08:39.840 What are our leaders doing for us in this country?

01:08:42.080 Absolutely nothing.

01:08:43.520 Name one thing that this Liberal government's done for Canadians in the last seven, eight months that they've been in power.

01:08:48.460 I can't name anything.

01:08:49.460 But yet I know a huge business and industry in Saskatchewan here that was literally forced to sell his corporation to another huge investment firm because if that man dies still owning that business, they will lose that business because of the taxes that the government will then come and take from that man.

01:09:12.580 it wasn't feasible for him anymore to own that business anymore and this is a

01:09:16.000 huge business in the province of Saskatchewan sold because the government

01:09:20.260 basically forced him to a lot of family farms right now where family land is

01:09:25.080 owned throughout through a family a personal venture cannot be the key they

01:09:29.320 can't pass that land down in in the evidence of an event of a death because

01:09:33.880 the government will come in and charge capital gains on that on the dollar

01:09:37.180 value on that and the children can't afford to pay those capital gains they

01:09:41.020 then forced to sell that land because the government takes it the government takes 50

01:09:45.660 of every dollar that you take you make in your course of your life and when you die they take

01:09:51.100 more it is ridiculous i can't get enough no like i just don't forget i mean the whole situation

01:09:58.140 with donald trump all the man asked was to seal your borders and stop the drugs literally how this

01:10:05.100 whole thing started no that's all he said and then once again every single thing that these guys have 0.97

01:10:11.500 done has just been the absolutely stupidest possible thing you can do mark carney is a beta 0.99

01:10:16.620 cuck i don't care i mean i have i have more testosterone in my body than that man does 0.99

01:10:23.180 there is i'm more of a i'm more masculine than mark carney and just and he's just pathetic and 0.98

01:10:28.460 he's like it's just it's insanity to even watch him try and deal with this like he's a tough talker 0.99

01:10:35.100 until he's right in front of him and then all of a sudden you know he's just a puddle

01:10:40.140 well talk about uh trolling you know i don't think anyone trolled uh trudeau better than

01:10:46.380 donald trump make your whole entire country the 51st state like sorry that beats

01:10:57.100 you have an administration in the united states that can smell weakness a mile away

01:11:02.360 Donald Trump, because I see people saying, you know, help us, Donald Trump, or hopefully they'll come and save us.

01:11:09.220 But that man is not going to save anyone that can't save himself.

01:11:12.880 Yeah.

01:11:13.460 And he shouldn't.

01:11:14.760 I mean, one of the things that I've long said, and I hate to sound like a hard ass, but I mean, we can sit here and we can blame Mark Carney and we can blame Justin Trudeau and we can blame Teresa Tam and we can blame all these people for our problems.

01:11:28.360 but the truth of the matter is is we let this happen over the course of just to just take a

01:11:34.740 little bit more and just take a little bit more you know we people should have put their foot

01:11:38.840 down a long time ago now that said you know i i used to be naive and think that canada was just

01:11:45.160 this great country that i grew up in and it's just lost that but when i look back over the course of

01:11:51.340 canada how they treated the metis people the first nation the government i'm talking about 0.53

01:11:55.700 uh remember the dion quintuplets oh they got treated that's going way back if there's so 0.98

01:12:01.100 many examples of the government treating canadians like shit so you know it's not donald trump's 0.93

01:12:09.220 fault nobody is coming to save us it's time for canadians to take a good look in the mirror 0.98

01:12:13.900 and you know again figure out what you can do to get involved and to make this change or to

01:12:19.560 affect positive change instead of just complaining about it.

01:12:23.600 I agree.

01:12:24.520 Well, I absolutely agree.

01:12:26.140 We have to stop as a society, having a power of attorney relationship with our, our politicians,

01:12:33.400 you know, and Eva always says this democracy is hard.

01:12:36.440 You got to get in there, roll up your sleeves, be involved and don't take your eyes off the 0.99

01:12:40.620 shit that they're doing. 0.99

01:12:42.200 The moment you do that, then don't be a victim. 1.00

01:12:46.260 Don't be a victim.

01:12:47.160 This is a huge problem today. I feel like we are just the whole world is just suffering from this massive victimhood mentality where, you know, feelings trump facts and everybody tries to be more offended than the next person. And, you know, that's just not the way the world works. I'm sorry. I think Candace Owens said life's tough, get a helmet or something like that, right?

01:13:09.920 yeah it's not a cakewalk for anyone we all have to we all have to walk this walk if things don't

01:13:19.200 get better i wrote a book that's right to help you it's on amazon yep and uh i've been working

01:13:29.840 on the website for months awesome but i'm i'm you know i think the book is is a great option and

01:13:36.800 And, hey, all I can say is Christmas is coming.

01:13:40.280 Christmas is coming.

01:13:40.960 I've got to order one.

01:13:41.700 I don't have one of those yet.

01:13:43.060 Yeah, nothing says I love you more than here you go.

01:13:45.660 I don't want to see you die in an apocalypse.

01:13:49.160 And you were on The Prepper.

01:13:51.060 I still can't believe you were on The Canadian Prepper.

01:13:52.960 I love that guy.

01:13:54.620 I know.

01:13:54.980 What an amazing show he has.

01:13:58.560 And when I found out he was from Saskatchewan, of course he's from Saskatchewan.

01:14:01.040 Yeah.

01:14:01.220 Well, Tamra, his warehouse manager is a huge fan of, you know, the Freedom Convoy.

01:14:08.300 She read your book, Tamara.

01:14:09.440 She's read mine.

01:14:10.760 She's waiting to read Chris's, hint, hint.

01:14:13.320 And, you know, get her done.

01:14:17.660 Manuscript right here.

01:14:20.020 That's right.

01:14:22.740 And this is the telltale story.

01:14:24.600 I give all the goods right here.

01:14:28.020 That's right. 1.00

01:14:28.840 you know oh i actually have receipts i usually stick them all right here and then my wife files

01:14:42.920 them in the paperwork later yeah right i've got uh i got three books now i got this one that i wrote

01:14:49.880 these are all my sub stacks okay and my yep my planning one and then my convoy book and uh i've

01:14:57.800 got almost enough almost enough substack articles for a fourth book i might just call it volume two

01:15:05.080 right so make it simple yeah trish wood did the uh the forward on my my second book

01:15:12.840 it was really good yeah and david redmond wrote wrote the preface for my planning book

01:15:18.520 wow yeah you rate the forward for mine tom i certainly will i'm gonna have to come up with a

01:15:23.640 name but i was actually a person that's actually going to help me assist with this and we're going

01:15:28.820 to start having long conversations and we're and she's going to be the the ghost writer and uh

01:15:33.360 we're going to pick chapters and so i said i want to have a chapter of like the trial i want to have

01:15:38.120 a chapter of the poec i want to have a chapter of the start but more importantly i want to have a

01:15:43.320 chapter where i let all the inner feelings that i've had you know because you know the last number

01:15:49.100 of years there's a little bit of bitterness and a little bit of anger and then somewhere that has

01:15:52.900 to go you can't hold that in so sometimes i usually just throw a hammer across the shop floor

01:15:57.780 maybe and it bounces off a tire and then hits me in the head where it needs to hit um those are

01:16:03.420 going to be the chapters and we're going to tell a good story so the conversation started now and

01:16:08.360 we're working our way through it so but there won't be a book tour until may 6th of 2027 because

01:16:14.500 that's when house arrest ends we did establish that on monday when i was in my probation meeting

01:16:18.720 so well then i can come see you on january 21st 2027 because i've got that time served remember

01:16:25.920 we're drinking beer we've got no kids right now so that you bring it away we've got extra rooms

01:16:34.560 we will drink for a week straight and tell stories no kidding

01:16:42.080 i want to address this one comment in there by somebody i don't know how to say his name lucien

01:16:48.160 it's not your place wait there's a thing in the way uh where did it go where did it go

01:16:58.080 there uh lucine right here it's not your place yeah yeah yeah to what was it it's

01:17:05.520 yeah like i don't i i don't i understand his point but i want to i want to address

01:17:10.480 that issue because i agonized over this exact point um oh where did he go

01:17:18.160 yeah yeah that's the one it's not your place to use convoy for your benefits and you know i i think

01:17:23.940 that's a fair point like i i struggled with this i it took me six months to decide if i was going

01:17:28.760 to tell this story or not and i remember asking everybody in the freedom corps board like guys i

01:17:34.460 i would like to do this but i would like to do it with your consent if you guys say no i'm not

01:17:38.940 going to do it because i felt like this was a story to to be shared right and but i felt like

01:17:47.100 it was like it maybe it's not just my story to share but i can write about what i did so i i

01:17:53.480 set out the following objectives with mine one was i'm not going to criticize anybody and say

01:17:58.780 their name i'll tell the story and what happened but i'm not going to target anybody unless they're

01:18:03.220 government official that's fair and the other thing is i i wanted this book to be a lessons

01:18:08.580 learned like to basically say these were the things that i think that we could have improved

01:18:14.180 on. That book is as much of a leadership and lessons learned book as anything of a story about

01:18:20.060 the convoy, because I know that in the future, people are going to want to protest. And I was

01:18:24.680 hoping they would get some really good nuggets out of that and to say, oh, yeah, maybe we should

01:18:29.540 think about that. We've all had years to think about our do-over, right? And so I don't begrudge

01:18:36.120 the comment at all, but I do want to acknowledge, like, I wrote the book. It is my personal

01:18:41.660 experience i i verified everything i wrote about it that's the best of my knowledge with other

01:18:46.540 people but at the at the same time i put a lot of it it took me a year and a half to write that book

01:18:52.220 and i'm offering somebody something in return for you know a very small royalty believe me it's

01:18:59.740 like i don't get rich writing a book in canada you know you're not in a ticked out world you

01:19:06.140 But, you know, I've sold less than, I've sold about 1,600 copies of that book total.

01:19:12.740 I like to say that Convoy, everyone experienced Convoy in a different light.

01:19:17.020 And we should speak about those different lights.

01:19:20.280 Each one of us has a story to tell.

01:19:22.260 And that's our story to tell.

01:19:23.640 And if you can choose to listen to that story or not listen to that story, that's completely 100% up to you.

01:19:28.420 Nobody's pushing it in your face.

01:19:30.300 But when it comes to certain people in this movement paying an ultimate price over the last four years,

01:19:35.460 like some of us some of us have done you know how many days were we going from home you lost your

01:19:42.420 job um they're trying to take my truck right now my livelihood they want to destroy everything

01:19:47.240 about us i'll be down if i'm not going to tell my side of the story and people can choose to

01:19:53.180 listen to that or they can or they can not listen to it go your way and have your side of the story

01:19:58.160 you have to remember too that there's a lot of people well first of all like you said tom i mean

01:20:03.680 not going to get rich writing a book in canada it's just not going to happen so a it's important

01:20:08.320 to get the stories out there in my opinion whether you know whatever your perspective is

01:20:13.840 and number two people there's a lot of people that really truly want to support us like they're

01:20:18.160 happy to pay for a book because they know that it's going to help us in some fashion right so

01:20:24.400 i mean i i get you know i see people i get called a grifter every day we all do we all get called

01:20:30.000 grifters you know rebel news is a great example because people call ezra rebel news grifters all

01:20:37.040 the time but really i mean they have a fantastic business model no one's putting um or sorry no

01:20:42.720 one's forcing you to donate to anything so like just shut up about it like why are you offended

01:20:50.160 if other people want to donate to a cause or purchase a book that somebody's that somebody's

01:20:55.360 written to support them so so people are i do understand the sentiment behind it i mean i

01:20:59.440 totally get that i mean i don't think anyone needs to you know make millions and millions and

01:21:03.200 millions off of course i guess i have though according according to what i yeah what did you

01:21:10.880 tamara i seen that the other day i'm like what did you do with the million dollars that you

01:21:14.320 apparently stole i'm like oh let's see i know you guys touched on this last week which was really

01:21:20.880 good. But let's not forget, that money was investigated by CSIS, the Ottawa City Police,

01:21:27.920 RCMP, the Ontario Provincial Police, Fintrac, the Government of Canada, the POEC itself,

01:21:38.000 and I think I'm still missing one. So that money is the most investigated money of all time in the

01:21:44.560 history of the world. If there would have been a red cent missing, I mean, it would have been

01:21:50.560 discovered so you know when people say that to me where's the money two things come to mind number

01:21:55.200 one you're just obviously here to be a troll because if you actually cared it's a google search

01:22:00.400 if you actually care to know the answers to some of these questions you literally just have to google

01:22:06.480 search it um i forget what my second point was go ahead i was gonna say like i got i got fired um

01:22:14.400 in the september before the convoy and i got a job about 15 months ago so between that time i was

01:22:22.640 severely unemployed you know living i spent five months until the poec living in a geodome with no

01:22:30.000 utilities you know no like i had my tiny little 1000 watt jackery that i would you know make coffee 0.53

01:22:38.480 with and then i would run hot water through it just so that i could clean myself in the dome

01:22:42.800 kind of thing or have a shower i'd have i had a solar bag to hang in the sunlight to warm up the

01:22:47.360 water you know and i lived like this for about five months which to me it didn't bother me at

01:22:52.800 all i actually enjoyed it was like camping or being back in the army but you know then i i i

01:22:58.160 wrote the book i well the winter came so i had to make alternative arrangements but nobody would

01:23:04.160 touch me i could not get a job i applied to hundreds of jobs every day and you know i was

01:23:10.000 applying to jobs nobody would touch me i was radioactive so i wrote the book put it out and

01:23:17.120 you know like i i could go weeks without a sale on books i don't care but i i'm telling the story

01:23:25.120 but you know at the end of the day i don't have the legal bills like you guys have had but i do

01:23:31.600 the best i can to help raise money for other people i go to fundraisers when i'm asked i go

01:23:36.160 go to a book signing. If I'm asked, you know, we were out in Saskatchewan,

01:23:40.300 the three of us to, to, for Chris, Chris's fundraiser. And, you know,

01:23:45.480 I, I contributed in any possible way that I can, but I personally,

01:23:49.120 I'll tell you this, I really do have a hard time taking money. I don't know why.

01:23:53.600 Like, and I, I literally was less than paycheck.

01:23:59.560 I lived in a geodome, a 20-foot long, 20-foot diameter geodome, you know, for almost five months after the convoy.

01:24:09.820 You know, I came home one day, I was campaigning, and I was told, in two weeks, you're moving out, telling our daughter today.

01:24:18.060 So on the same day I lost the election, I was also unemployed and homeless, right?

01:24:23.480 And so these are the stories we don't talk about.

01:24:26.040 I mean, my life is amazing now, but it took a long, long, long, long time to recover, you know, and even in that time when I was applying, I did, I was looking for work, but I also was, was writing this book and because I thought the book, the project was important and I wanted to just tell the story.

01:24:45.600 and I wanted this book to be a lessons learned for future protesters, you know, about being safe

01:24:52.580 and responsible, understanding the media, you know, in, in knowing how to work with the government to

01:24:58.220 the best of your ability. We, we tried, we really, we, we absolutely tried. It's not our fault. We

01:25:03.980 didn't have a willing dance partner. So I see somebody, sorry, in here asking about Chris

01:25:10.200 sky i think chris sky moved to the united states if i'm not mistaken did he i haven't heard

01:25:16.440 i haven't heard from that guy or about that guy in a long time so many people left and that's the

01:25:22.360 scary part we're losing a lot of people because people are giving up right now i uh yeah i met a

01:25:27.160 family in north dakota when i was stuck in the snowstorm there that just kind of said we're had

01:25:31.720 enough they sold everything bought a business in the states and they're they started their life

01:25:35.800 again down there and when you stop and think about the amount of control the government has

01:25:39.960 over each and every canadian and the amount that we have to ask for permission to do just about

01:25:44.520 anything you start to wonder if we've gone too far down that road and i i think we're we're there

01:25:50.520 we're there speaking of which our friend greg wycliffe's got a documentary coming out here

01:25:56.360 pretty soon he's got a he's got a screening set up in ottawa geez i wish i should i'll grab the

01:26:00.520 dates i should post those on our thing i know he's got one in calgary too and it's called the hate

01:26:06.280 network so greg wycliffe put together interviewed myself chris um a whole bunch of people archer

01:26:11.800 pelowski oh my gosh tons and basically it's a documentary where he's where he's profiling

01:26:19.160 um organizations like the canadian anti-hate network which is actually um the hate network

01:26:24.200 too by the way um so he's profiling you know the smear campaigns and these government funded

01:26:29.720 organizations that are basically paid to go out and smear well people like us essentially um with

01:26:35.320 your tax dollars and it's not necessarily um true ever really they slander just about all of us

01:26:42.200 during convoy and i i never heard of the canadian i was so disconnected with all this stuff going

01:26:47.720 into convoy i had no idea who certain players were who media was i was raised in a household

01:26:54.440 where we sat at the supper table every night as a family my parents and my two other siblings

01:27:00.280 and we watched news every night as we ate our supper and we had conversations and talked about

01:27:05.720 politics and learned something you can't do that anymore it's indoctrination as far as i'm concerned

01:27:13.640 sorry um od sorry one second od is just asking me um if she can purchase a book yes you can purchase

01:27:20.440 a book right from me i will be happy to mail you one od if you could just please send an email to

01:27:26.280 our email address which we'll put back up here 18host.arrest at gmail.com and i'll get in touch

01:27:32.840 with you and i'll pop one in the mail for you no problem thank you my um friend on here kirsten

01:27:39.340 kelly who i love she's an amazing amazing awesome canadian um anyway she she just posted that chris

01:27:46.940 was in mexico chris guy and you know like chris chris like i i had a podcast for a very short time

01:27:54.180 and I interviewed Chris when he was running for mayor of Toronto because nobody would touch him

01:27:58.900 in the media. And I'm like, okay, I will. I like, I, he deserves to be heard, you know, just like

01:28:03.940 everybody else. And you know, the thing like Chris, Chris has earned himself a reputation of being

01:28:09.940 someone who's hard to work with, but he's often right. Right. He's often very right. And you know,

01:28:15.840 he was one of the first one I ever heard that said, do not, do not comply. Right. And, you know,

01:28:23.380 he's yes he can be tough to work with i that's i think pretty true but i still respect what he's

01:28:31.280 done you know and he he he got a lot of tickets he got a lot of abuse but he had the biggest

01:28:39.120 the like the biggest guts before the convoy than anyone else i remember him walking through

01:28:44.260 pearson saying i'm not getting in your line i'm not putting on your mask i'm not doing your arrive

01:28:48.760 cam uh i'm not filling out your forms i'm not and walked out and you know and you got a massive

01:28:54.200 massive fine you know this guy always put his his you know his everything on the line for what he

01:29:01.240 believed and he said and you know people really went after him when he left canada he said i'm

01:29:08.120 done you if you guys aren't going to have my back i'm not going to have yours but your back anymore

01:29:12.360 and so he left and i and i can't fault the guy he put it all out on the line he put everything on

01:29:18.040 the line yeah and he fought and so he's like well it just goes back to the you know like it just

01:29:23.560 goes back to the what i was saying i think the last time that i was on or you were with us tom

01:29:27.960 was that you know we don't have to like every single thing about each other we're not going to

01:29:32.120 we're always there's always going to be things but we can still appreciate others for what they've

01:29:36.840 done we can appreciate what they've sacrificed we can um you know try to find some common ground or

01:29:42.680 you know how we can work together instead of you know like yeah that's that's the key that's

01:29:49.640 exactly it we don't all have to get along we don't all have to like each other but we can still

01:29:54.200 respect each other and and yes i listen to her speak from calgary at uh canadians for truth

01:30:00.760 event that he was part of there i i was amazed with how educated he is and how worse how well

01:30:06.360 versed he is that guy knows the stuff he can quote and statistics he he knows exactly how to use this

01:30:13.320 his language amazing i asked him i i asked him in my interview like how does he how does he know

01:30:21.000 he's like i'm from the future that's what he said to me we had a good laugh about it

01:30:27.160 but the thing is he said it's not hard they tell you what they're gonna do you just gotta listen

01:30:32.280 they tell you what they're gonna do and he's right that's exactly right so yeah i i like chris um

01:30:41.480 you know i yeah you're right tamara we don't have to like everything about each other like i i had

01:30:48.040 really high hopes for trump when he came into office some of the the things he's doing right

01:30:52.520 now i can't make sense of on his foreign policy but i love what he's doing for inside the american

01:30:57.400 border. Domestically, I love what he's doing. I've noticed that some of my customers that I

01:31:03.820 have in Northern States, like North Dakota, Montana right now, are really feeling the pressure

01:31:07.960 of trumping the tariffs because they're the ones paying for those tariffs. So they buy a piece of

01:31:12.580 auction sale in Canada and then they want me to truck it across the border. Well, now you're

01:31:16.760 getting into the tariffs. And a lot of the times that's actually killing the people that he,

01:31:22.140 his base, his base. And so I wish he could roll back a little bit of that because he's actually

01:31:26.500 hurting his own people more than he's hurting.

01:31:29.040 Yep.

01:31:29.500 Yeah.

01:31:29.920 Yeah.

01:31:30.380 Yeah, exactly.

01:31:31.160 And you're not going to love everything that the politicians are doing either.

01:31:35.020 Like I, I'm a big fan of Danielle Smith most of the time, but sometimes I'm just like,

01:31:41.900 you just rolled out a digital ID.

01:31:44.600 Like, come on.

01:31:46.700 Like, and then other, and, but then she, she's rolling today. 1.00

01:31:50.440 I think she introduced castle law type of legislation. 0.96

01:31:53.720 Yes.

01:31:54.140 Yeah.

01:31:54.360 So it's like, I don't have to love everything you do, but I got to, I got to, I have to

01:31:59.580 acknowledge when you do good and I have to be critical when you do bad.

01:32:04.560 That's our job.

01:32:05.700 That's our role as the public.

01:32:08.180 I've seen a few times, you know, over the last few weeks, you know, somebody will say

01:32:11.520 something like, I supported you until you did this, or I supported you until you said

01:32:15.840 that.

01:32:16.720 And I'm like, okay, well, so you don't agree with one thing I said or my opinion on one

01:32:22.320 thing.

01:32:22.600 So now you don't support me.

01:32:23.840 like that doesn't even make any sense you know what i mean like one guy is like i supported you

01:32:28.620 until i you were disparaging catholics i'm like dude i'm roman catholic how was i disparaging

01:32:34.600 catholics so now you're not going to support me at all because you think i disparaged roman

01:32:39.560 catholics like i came out and supported the ostrich farm and i've been a supportive of katie

01:32:45.480 and the family out there since since i heard of the government overreach going on there and then

01:32:49.180 you've got these people on on mainly tiktok that are like out there researching and trying to dig

01:32:54.140 up and disparage and discredit and destroy and anything that can grasp that and i stood up

01:32:59.300 again for the ostrich farm and didn't fall into this whole negativity and i got

01:33:03.380 chris i supported you up until this point i'm like well obviously you don't now have a good day and

01:33:09.260 i'll hit you on the way out i'm good with that you learn who your real friends are you know that

01:33:16.100 yeah yeah your real friends will tell you like look i i agree with everything else or a lot of

01:33:21.760 other things but this no to be honest but it doesn't mean you write somebody off yes you know

01:33:27.840 and that's what happens we're so quick to just turn our nose up at each other and write each

01:33:32.740 other off for the most smallest little offense right and i've written a lot about that on my

01:33:38.280 sub stack that dynamic and i gotta say like the the the right are really really terrible at

01:33:45.800 crabbing and if you don't know what you know what crabbing is yeah they're terrible we are on the

01:33:51.180 right they will write you off for the most minuscule little offense and we've got to stop doing that

01:33:57.580 to ourselves yep it's a canadian problem too i mean you know i i think throughout history i don't

01:34:04.700 know what it is about canadians but i noticed this long before this situation ever happened to me and

01:34:09.500 And that is like, it seems like when some Canadians reach a certain level of notoriety or celebrity or they get a certain amount of attention, you know, they're a folk hero supported to a certain point.

01:34:22.580 And then it seems like in some cases, once they reach a certain point, then all of a sudden Canada hates them, disparages them, completely turns their back on them.

01:34:31.820 And I don't know how that came to be.

01:34:36.300 i mean i get the only most obvious thing i can think of is nickel back off the top of my head

01:34:40.540 obviously you know i mean i when they went when they were went mainstream and i haven't started

01:34:45.660 to hate them i mean that's the point don't you don't you get into music so that you can

01:34:49.900 have your songs played and and make money yeah you know yep 100 so you don't have to like their

01:34:58.380 music that's just another example you don't have to like their music but you can be proud of their

01:35:02.220 accomplishments and how they've represented canada on like the world stage right but

01:35:07.020 it's never been one to fall for that sort of stuff i think looking at my cd tower i believe

01:35:11.100 i have every nickelback cd that was ever made yeah i love nickelback too man nickelback and default

01:35:18.700 all you know one of my three free three favorite uh artists but unfortunately default isn't around

01:35:23.900 anymore no he's country now yes and i still love it yes yeah i did too well hey guys we are in for

01:35:35.180 an hour and a half um i think we'll wrap this up and and let everybody go uh still we don't know

01:35:42.460 what we're going to do next week i'm heading home on monday so we'll get something planned

01:35:46.460 um i had been talking with chris about reaching out to dr hodkinson dr roger who is one of our

01:35:51.980 doctor friends who basically you know um stuck his neck out very early on throughout this whole

01:35:58.640 thing um advocating for the rights medical rights of canadians and he's um just like so many of them

01:36:05.940 you know he's been smeared they're trying to take his license away his license to practice away and

01:36:10.300 so i would really like to get him on the show um and and you know talk to him about his story and

01:36:15.420 how we can help him so i'm hoping to have that lined up hopefully before the end of december

01:36:20.320 um but yeah other than that any final thoughts tom yeah i won't i won't be around next week i'll be

01:36:27.760 uh at my land all week next week um starting saturday so at some point i'll be at the loaf

01:36:34.700 and l that much i know and um it's funny because i posted about it yesterday i think

01:36:39.780 you know i'm renting a the the cheapest hotel that i can find in in kingston and you know for 84 bucks

01:36:48.560 a night and when i looked at all the taxes i'm gonna pay basically for one extra night in taxes

01:36:55.840 on money i've already been taxed on like so i'm i'm gonna basically pay for probably two extra

01:37:04.000 nights that i'm gonna turn over to ukraine i mean to the cra another 230 million golden toilets

01:37:13.200 golden toilets and bank rolls of money under beds right on yeah so i won't be here next week i'll

01:37:18.880 be i'll be at the land working trying to build uh you know some sort of shelter enjoying my time

01:37:26.160 with my time off renting a mini excavator and doing boy things oh yeah yeah yeah careful with

01:37:35.280 those fingers tom i took a sniper i whacked my finger with a snipe bar the other day doing some

01:37:41.360 work like that. So just be careful of those. I could break a bone and it doesn't hurt as

01:37:45.120 bad as a dang finger. So. Yep. That's true. Anyway, I hope everybody has a great weekend.

01:37:51.120 Okay. Well, I wanted to say, oh, sorry. Thank you everyone for joining us again tonight.

01:37:56.000 I'm still out in Manitoba, heading home soon. Chris, you got any final thoughts?

01:38:01.360 Should be a busy weekend working around the yard here. Thanks everybody for joining. We

01:38:05.520 will see you next Thursday. I will see what I can do for trucking in the next week and we'll be back

01:38:10.240 here i tried the road for a while on the on the on the camera here and it didn't work quite as

01:38:15.200 well as being comfortable at home on the computer here where i get speakers so this is always the

01:38:19.280 best for thursday night so absolutely okay you guys have a great week and we'll see you next

01:38:24.160 thursday thanks for joining us on host arrest with chris and tamara we'll see you next week

01:38:29.200 see ya thank you

House Arrest - December 05, 2025

Episode 7 - House Arrest On the Road

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