A THOUGHTCRIME Thanksgiving
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In this week's episode of Thought Crime, the boys talk about the long rivalry game between Arizona and Utah State, the longest rivalry trophy in the country, and the long-standing rivalry trophy game in the U.S.A.
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targets the communications of everyone they're collecting your communications
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okay everybody hello it is thought crime week uh it is thanksgiving week
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and uh we are here by the way the official uniform of thought crime this week is the thanksgiving
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uniform i decided to go as charlie kirk for this thanksgiving i didn't i didn't fully shave i might
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later and then and then like your hair thing where you do like the down up it's like hey it's it's the
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natural color it's like a nice it's like a nike swoosh it is it's uh i have it to have it trademarked
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is that why you only wear nikes i actually don't only wear nikes um but i should uh so we also have
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blake and tyler as well what are they wearing let's see blake is probably wearing a t-shirt
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i'm wearing my turkey hat i i believe this is a kirkland shirt uh i don't actually have a costco
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membership but uh i'll be honest my mother buys a lot of shirts for me i'm wearing my turkey hat
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my native american shawl i hear all you guys in there and then my arizona state t-shirt because
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we're going to the big tall championship unless things go awry on saturday well maybe hold on
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tyler you know the story of arizona football whatever is predictable no tyler knows this
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they will curse whatever inevitable path they have they mess it up i'm it is an inevitability
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of arizona state football i've got a front row seat charlie on saturday with my two brothers
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right behind kenny dillyham so and down in tucson this is a very dumb question oh you're going but
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going down to tucson like they play out i'm going down to tucson and front row seat i like tucson
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tucson's nice so it's going to be a miserable drive back this is a dumb question having never
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gone to an asu football game do they just like suffer in complete agony for their first like
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three home games of the season because you know oh no they do evenings evenings they do them in
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the evenings it's actually really still 95 degrees in arizona it's a nice brisk 98 but here's the
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factoid for everybody that's listening arizona has the longest rivalry game in the country the
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territorial cup between arizona state and arizona people don't believe it look it up
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no way oregon oregon state has to be older i'm no look it up territorial cup is the longest
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recognized ncaa football longest played now he's in here come all the caveats
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yale princeton goes back to 1873 no it's the oldest it's the oldest is it like the oldest that
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how is it older than 1873 no yale princeton is pretty i mean yale princeton was 1873 no but the
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rivalry game i'm surprised it's continuing that yale princeton is a rivalry game they hate each other
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you have to look up the territory montana montana state 1897 that's pretty old illinois state eastern
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illinois 19 arizona wasn't even a state back then no one lived in arizona that's why it couldn't be
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an arizona state because there wasn't a state that's why i'm looking i'm looking online and
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this is the duel in the desert is just 1899 and there's many rivalries that are older than 1899
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there's uh michigan notre dame 1887 duke north carolina 1888 the oldest one that tyler knows about
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no no no actually look google territorial cup army navy game 1890 i i feel like the army
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navy game is pretty old like they're and they're still going territorial cup the nation's oldest
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rivalry trophy oh oldest trophy that's so they well you can't really have a cup without a trophy
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you could just spiritually have one that's it so and that's and that was territorial that's what's
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called the territorial cup sounds like your territorial and arizona state was the normal
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school and that was it big time okay all right i'm not saying it's good football i'm just saying it's
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it's i have by the way since it is a thanksgiving day episode i wanted to flag that we have all
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something very uh important to be grateful for uh you remember real raw news charlie 12 you remember
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real raw news america's only trustworthy news source uh they have a breaking report today just before
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thanksgiving special forces have arrested kamala harris she has come back finally vacation in hawaii
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but they they nabbed her according to the story there were moles inside of her secret service detail
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and they couldn't get her in hawaii i guess hawaii is like the deep state safe zone where they control
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things but they got her back to dc which is also a deep state safe zone but not as safe and so they
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managed to take her into custody she and doug emhoff will be sent to gitmo to stand trial for treason
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i i'm glad real raw news was able to get giving happy thanksgiving we got i was worried that she
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might be out there making so tyler's half right it's the oldest trophy it's the oldest trophy
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okay that is that is legit so it is the oldest trophy the territorial cup it's pretty impressive
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it doesn't sound like it's a trophy it sounds like it's a cup nothing yeah no he's right the
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territorial cup was created 125 years ago that is 1899 championship it's the oldest rivalry trophy
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in college football but what what was the school even called before i i don't know they're not
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where asu was called the normal school it was called the normal it was called tempe it was
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literally called tempe normal tempe normal and arizona huh it was the territorial cup is so old
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that it literally is like a cup it looks like a it looks like a vase i'm actually impressed that i
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did i thought no one lived in arizona it's like 1930 no my ancestors were there and it was literally
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just two football i said except prior to 1912 it was just two football teams yeah i i just okay
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it's remarkable and to go that you had to replace someone on the team arizona's population in 1890
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was 88 000 people when did your family moved here we chased twice as many more than 65 percent of
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them were related to our to tyler i'm a seventh generation arizona when did when did the old
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boyer show up here it wasn't boyer it was lambs and uh and then those people but they was this
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1860s 1860 in 1860 the population of arizona is 6482 people better not i'm sad is that is oh
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gee second cousins with sheriff lamp yep man now there's uh 6 000 there's like probably
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more than that within like a couple blocks of here oh yeah for sure all right speaking of
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your power and get back to being unstoppable okay guys we have to talk about thanksgiving
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is it okay to eat steak on thanksgiving i really worry it's the only thing you eat on thanksgiving no
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no that's incorrect incorrect not a lot no no you can have tyler and i were discussing not at all
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not at all not at all you can have obviously you must have turkey it is required to have turkey
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you may have ham if it is supplementary to the turkey but like it should be any meat you have
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should be from like a a central meat dispensing entity you cannot have individualized servings of
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meat that is that is my position is not from a central meat dispensing no like you don't you don't make a
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giant you don't make like a 50 pound steak and then take like a piece of it and like pass the giant
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super steak around like that that's what you do with ham or turkey like you make the whole turkey or
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you make the whole ham and you like cut a little bit of it but you don't do that with steak but that's
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what i'm saying that's what i'm saying you can have a separate serving of a plate of steak for people
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similar to the ham no it's just wrong like no because ham is ham is like supplement
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to the turkey taste you have to have turkey and ham on your plate
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you don't need ham though you don't want no you don't need him you have to have no no i'm a turkey
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purist but some people think that they they can start to get really now christmas is a completely
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different ball game there are no rules with christmas ham is usually center but steak is acceptable
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yeah but no but still christmas is a whole thanksgiving it is un-american not to have
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either turkey some sort of dressing cranberries but here's the thing about the cranberry thing
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if you want to be an ultra traditionalist right it must be straight out of the can yes taken vertically
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with no adjustments and now if you want to have this is it wait is this some chicago thing now hold on
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no no no no no no no no it's and if you want to have cranberry with adjustments that could be
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supplementary but however it must be out of the can and you just take it vertically and it just jiggles
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walk me through your stuffing the stuffing is very interesting okay now here's the big question yes
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does the stuffing go in the turkey or is it prepared outside of the turkey is that stuffing
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versus dressing and cook it with the turkey or some people will prepare it and then just put it in
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for like the final see that's that's the final leg you got to go the full lantha so it i dressing has
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to be obviously cornbread yes some sort of celeries and carrots sure sausage need your crunch a little
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crunch mix that all together um but you know what makes the stuffing really kicker the gravy yes and so
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you need the gravy you have the stuffing you have the jiggling cranberry you got the turkey and that's
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all that's accepted and then also maybe green beans and then sweet potatoes green casserole how do you
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make the sweet potatoes whoa whoa what's the issue with green bean casserole i i just i just it's not
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it's not allowed what do you mean it's not you're getting too cute green bean casserole green bean casserole
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with uh it's a total staple with the no no with those little crunchy things on top right onions
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the fried onions no no i like what i like the long uninterrupted unblemished green beans with butter
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with butter yeah that's good though those are good no casserole casserole i never said casserole the
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casserole is no we are saying casserole is a staple it's an absolute thanksgiving i don't think it's a
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staple 100 uh and then let me think what else okay yes then the sweet potatoes sure but none of this
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marshmallow stuff you see this is new age and it's a mistake we're all of a sudden full trad no no
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it's a mixture of it's like 1950s thanksgiving right it's like that's why it's like the gel you
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know it's no no i'm saying no marshmallows no no no marshmallow the marshmallow thing is is a disgrace
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with well charlie hold on a second though because there is one thing wait wait wait wait there is one
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thing one dish that we know for a fact was served at the original thanksgiving charlie you know where i'm
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going with this smallpox no no no charlie not what not what we served what was served to us got it
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corn oh see no no no oh corn was served at the original the only corn that is acceptable is
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cornbread i will say you have to bend the knee to the corn god and cornbread has to be either the
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dressing the stuff stuff do you agree tyler long time thought time uh listeners will remember that
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charlie is is is like blake radicalized me against the corn god anti-cornite i i think i think corn has no
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redemptive value unless it is for thanksgiving because then it is a sacrament to squanto no no
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corn is good in the summertime we we eat the corn on thanksgiving to show our thanks that the angry
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corn god has not destroyed us so corn corn on the exactly this is exactly right i forgot his name i
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forgot the corn god's name no no we're not talking about corn on the cob we're talking about corn elements
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corn bread for example corn even even wait wait even charlie kirk like the chief anti-corn wow this
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is huge no this is what thanks this is big this is let's be very clear thanksgiving is not about
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what you want to do it is what your ancestors did okay and it doesn't matter you don't want to do
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no that's what i'm saying it's not about i don't care about if you don't like cranberries you don't like
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turkey suck it up it's thanksgiving there is no this this modernity like i'm gonna put like stanyo
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doesn't tanya will not eat turkey she won't it doesn't matter she'll make it she won't figure it
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out she won't eat it so so here in arizona i don't know what to tell you i completely agree with charlie
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i think the canned cranberry is a must on the table however you have to have you have to have a second in
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arizona we have jalapeno cranberries incredible if you haven't had it i know you're regionalizing
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this too much jalapeno no it's good yeah it adds a little spice it's just a little bit like when i
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went to the grand canyon last summer and i discovered that i guess they just sell like prickly pear
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everything at every arizona oh yeah yeah yeah something that's that's anywhere chicken is great
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so i i have a question for everybody though and this is getting deep into the weeds so we talked about
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stuffing or dressing moist stuffing or dry stuffing and it's got to be dry but the gravy makes it moist
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if you make it too moist you're for the boys make it more moist for the gravy you can't you it has to
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be on the spectrum of tilt moist but not too much because if it's too dry then it's just it's too brittle
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and brittle there's nothing worse than brittle dressing so so you call it dressing scoopable it's
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i'm noticing that you call it dressing it should be stuffing however i've been corrected many times
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i've always called stuffing even though it's not technically stuffing unless it's within the turkey
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yes dressing's outside the turkey no it's not no i i i grew up calling it stuffing even though
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we never put it in the turkey but it's the i mean i get that but the the type of food would be
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called still stuffing dressing is like for salads no no no no no dressing is outside that is
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i reject that completely stuffing is like a type of food and it like it should be used to stuff in
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it but it is still stuffing even if it's not doing the stuff there's lots of things dressing is outside
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where we don't use the name properly but we but we still call it that because it used to be i'm excited
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for thanksgiving at this point this is great so we're not doing to people know we're pre-taping this
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yeah yeah we are we are today we are on no we are we actually we blew off thanksgiving
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we're supposed to be eating right now yeah yeah so now let's let's now go to the more fundamental
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question okay dessert okay because that really is what do you need to set well for me i mean if i have
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i have all right go ahead no no you go you know this is i have i have at times and my mom knows this
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i have left the house gone to the store and purchased the ingredients for pumpkin pie and
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brought it home and made it myself because there was no pumpkin pie available it is required oh i
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i completely agree it is like 100 the first commandment of oh yeah thanksgiving oh yes thou
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shall have pumpkin pie with whipped cream with whipped cream yes it is a non-negotiable right if it's not
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there like i i i got up i got my car i was like i'm just gonna go i'm not gonna now ryan asks a
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really good question is thanksgiving meal a lunch or a dinner the answer is around 3 30 to 4 pm yeah
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that is the sweet spot right as the sun is going down in chicago yeah boom you sit down right it is
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thanksgiving that is way too late it is itself its own meal no no that is that's way too late you do it
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i would say neff family tradition is maybe 1 to 1 30 p.m ah it's so early super early what are you
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doing half time of the second football game when are you going to sleep time of the second five ball
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game no yes you gotta smell the first football game is the lions right the cowboys are always second
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we we have a tradition in our house half time of cowboys we get seated because we're cheering that
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the cowboys will lose yes well that's good but no it's we're in philadelphia way too it's way too late
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we share that tradition as well like tv's off during the meal no tv should be off yeah no yeah like
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no i i i greatly dislike the like tv sanctification of thanksgiving like i don't know i would watch
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i i would consider it like if the packers are on i would watch the packers but i do not consider it
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essential to watch now there's three games on thanksgiving we usually have like no this is true
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there has been a desecration it used to be only two games and it was on fox it would be the lions who
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used to be bad and now they're good and actually who do they play this week let me see it's i bet
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it's actually pretty good lineup and then it was the cowboys but now nbc got greedy because it was
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fox had their game cbs had their game and then nbc got greedy and they snuck in their own so is that
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this week no okay let me see here what do we got we got a new week of football okay there's three
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games oh blake you're in luck yeah i know i know i'll see it's the dolphins are visiting lambo okay i'm
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gonna be watching that oh and chicago plays on thanksgiving oh wow they're gonna get they're
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gonna get annihilated they're gonna die at detroit it's gonna be that right that's yeah that's not
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good by the way you can tell who's having a better season tickets start at ford field for 181
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tickets start at jerry stademan 28 bucks yeah my my son asked me the other day because he saw when we
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went to the uh the eagles game and he was like all jealous that we went and so he was like oh daddy
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give me some eagles tickets we'll go and so we looked up the ones for thanksgiving weekend and i was
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like i gotta sell a lot more pillows yeah like eagles tickets right now are it was uh 500 was like
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the highest nose 3 11 is where they start out insane yeah this you're seeing what 3 11 and that's in
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baltimore but baltimore's so close you're basically you're basically in the silly light right yeah
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you're pretty much in it's like 90 minutes you know the way i drive it's 90 minutes okay so now
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now that we have developed by the way by the way i don't want to throw my mom under the bus because
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every single year and i know she's going to watch this every single year post that there's like a
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selection of pumpkin pies that is always available the way it must be by the way do you think that pecan pie
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can also make an appearance of course yeah okay good other pies can be there but pumpkin is no
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pecan pie i actually prefer more than pumpkin pie yeah however i must have a slice of pumpkin
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wait wait wait were you always like that though when you were little my mom makes a killer pecan pie
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okay like destroys the world okay what about what about when i was younger i was always pumpkin
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but then well pecan pie now now we're getting into chocolate pecan pie and that's where you just
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surrender you're just done at that it's just it so you throw you throw because guys you know folks
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who don't know charlie you're usually pretty strict with your diet you're usually it's like yeah you're
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usually like no no but thanksgiving's different thanksgiving you go all in and it is it is a holy
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day by the way i think thanksgiving is one of america's greatest traditions it is because it's a day
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just to give thanks i think it's uniquely awesome talk about that for a little bit because there's you
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know a lot of people say well it's you know it's just about the it's you know it's the indians it's
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the pilgrims well everything is what you make of who cares who cares there's no god involved why why
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do you well no first of all the pilgrims were definitely giving thanks to god but they were
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they were not giving you know thanks to brahmin but they were giving thanks to the almighty god
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and but yeah secondly i just think it's amazing especially during the season where we have such
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abundance and we won the election that there's a day where you just stop and you say thank you
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which then of course acknowledges you're saying thank you to a higher power and i i don't know of
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another nation or another country that has a day of gratitude i think i actually said this once and
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i guess there was like some random african country that has it and that's fine i got like in trouble
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for saying this last year yeah okay so fine i i guess senegal has has a day like that i'll look it up
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however great job senegal or whatever but but what but following in some good footsteps but a day of
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gratitude i i i subscribe to the prager hopefully he's doing better he's he's fighting like crazy right now
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belief he's really struggling that happiness is impossible if you are not grateful and i believe
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that i do not think you can have joy i do not think you can have be content if you're not grateful and
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i think it's a beautiful thing as a nation we have a day to say thank you well and shout out to the
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on the nation always who uh who always gave us the story of thanksgiving real quick no just real quick
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you know shout out to the og who always told us the true story of thanksgiving rush limbaugh oh man he was
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an og on that he just did it every year i've still got i've got a recording of it uh somewhere
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we used to play it and i gotta re-listen that and try to so good send that me send that to me now i
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gotta retry to recreate it i i did something on the show uh last year where i sort of like i i didn't
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try to do it like rush did it but i told the story and people just have to keep telling that story
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over and over and they tried socialism it failed then they tried giving people ownership of their
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various plots of land and then they had an overabundance of their harvest and so they gave
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thanks to god what a concept what an incredible concept but instead now it's all like oh the
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pilgrims were dying and the indians had to come and they saved the pilgrims because they were stupid
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europeans didn't know anything even though squanto had actually lived in europe uh even he had been in
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london uh more recently than the pilgrims had it's always spoken english so well but of course
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you know facts are blake you were saying something well so first of all i was saying we should make fun
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of canada for having their knockoff thanksgiving that is just one month before ours i think we should
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always use every opportunity to bully canada because it's fun and but also even like the full story of
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thanksgiving because evil liberals always want to dunk on it like it's even more beautiful than just
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the pilgrims doing it when they settled here uh like the very first like annual thanksgiving national
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holiday fourth thursday in november like clockwork that was started by abraham lincoln in 1863
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middle of the civil war the peak of the civil war i think that's probably the bloodiest year of the
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civil war and he says yes like in the middle of this we're going to have a celebration of national
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thanksgiving and like that was what set it as a national holiday george washington declared a day
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of thanksgiving it's truly uh you know it's a great thing because it is possibly the one great national
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tradition that was created in america that we have had for the entire history of america that is just
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totally our own thing and then us being america we have exported it to the rest of the world in
00:23:53.840
various ways someone was very shocked to learn i was talking to a foreigner who was like wasn't
00:24:00.480
black friday this week no no black friday is this week and well it's kind of terrible now yeah
00:24:08.160
i used to be a black friday person but now it's i'm done it's it's awful it's just so awful and it's
00:24:14.320
not even black friday anymore because black friday there's like well charlie given everything
00:24:18.800
that you just said about uh the importance of thanksgiving what do you think about the people
00:24:22.720
who leave thanksgiving dinner early to go and start shopping first of all first of all i totally
00:24:28.640
when i grew up it was actually black friday yeah now it's like black thursday evening right and it's
00:24:34.800
not like you start lining up like the sales actually begin it's actually interesting for younger listeners
00:24:39.600
that don't know after so many people got trampled in the walmart raids because people would line up
00:24:45.840
they keep the stores open right they don't close them and reopen them because it used to be the
00:24:50.240
walmart would close and then and then all the all the deals and the sales would be set and then
00:24:55.200
people would get trampled so much i think someone almost died and they got hospitalized and there were
00:24:58.800
tons of people did die this is the plot of that this is the plot of people die is that right i didn't
00:25:02.720
know that yeah people died that's terrible people got ran over that i didn't know they died that there's
00:25:08.160
that thanks thanksgiving horror movie this is actually the plot where people get killed and then like
00:25:12.240
someone's getting revenge on the people who started the uh the stampede so so i i had no problem with
00:25:18.960
like you have a really really good thanksgiving and then you want to get good deals on stuff and i think
00:25:23.920
that was fine it was like a good kickoff to the christmas season but and it used to be when i grew up
00:25:30.080
there was a grittiness to black friday there was like it took it took real spirit so you have to
00:25:36.160
understand like i grew up in chicago it would always be like sub 20 degrees and if you wanted
00:25:42.320
to get a black friday deal you had to earn it so you had to like leave with your family at like 10 p.m
00:25:47.120
after all that turkey's full and you like stood in line at target from the open their doors at 1201
00:25:52.240
yeah right and you would like shop all night and you would like get 7 11 coffee and get home by like
00:25:59.680
5 a.m and you felt like i earned this deal and it was like it was like a sense of accomplishment and
00:26:04.960
you know what i mean you had to have there was like a limit to what you could get of course no
00:26:09.840
and it was very narrow and it was like one specific we would go through catalogs and go through what
00:26:15.440
was on sale yep this was all before internet i want to throw to blake in a second but the internet
00:26:20.800
ruined it there was also there was a divide and conquer strategy of what stores are we gonna hit
00:26:25.920
are we gonna go to best buy are we gonna go to home depot because like and you're shopping for other
00:26:30.560
people and there was like a real like conquest like chess game oh yeah it's like oh wow best buy
00:26:36.400
opens at 11 30 and walmart's at midnight my my strategy would always be like i would find the one
00:26:42.240
store that was like within a 45 minute drive but in like a like a non-populated area so much fun
00:26:49.360
think about or like a staples because nobody thinks that staples would have stuff but they do have
00:26:53.440
computers and different you know hot items so like what are what's the thing that people aren't going to
00:26:58.720
think about and that's where i'm gonna go and now you just wait for cyber monday and click a couple
00:27:02.160
buttons and so all the adventure of it and you don't earn it anymore it used to be you'd get home
00:27:07.280
at 3 30 in the morning you're like i got a good deal on a big screen tv it was a it was a teenage
00:27:12.640
rite of passage in suburban chicago blake your thoughts yeah it was really uh i i can still think
00:27:18.560
of like individual things i went out of my way to get on black friday i think i still have a playstation
00:27:24.320
3 that i got in 2011 i think i can remember the exact deal it was a ps slim 250 dollars it came
00:27:30.560
with little big planet and like some crummy ratchet and clank game who cares but like that was the
00:27:35.600
best deal you could get for i think like two years after that point but what ended up killing it was
00:27:42.080
as you said you know you were you'd go for the time and it used to be okay it was on black friday
00:27:45.840
normal hours then they would open it at like 6 a.m in the morning and people would show up before
00:27:50.960
then someone got ahead and made it oh let's open exactly at midnight and then what finally killed
00:27:55.760
it i think the rise of the internet was a factor but another thing that killed it was companies
00:28:01.440
decided to get so green they just said we're doing black friday on thanksgiving and they would just be
00:28:06.480
open on thanksgiving with those deals and i think to america's credit there was popular backlash to this
00:28:12.960
where they're saying wait you're forcing employees to skip thanksgiving to come in and work on
00:28:19.760
thanksgiving though i must hedge i have to be personally grateful for the fact that some that
00:28:26.320
stores are open on thanksgiving some of them because i visited a friend this is about 10 years ago i went
00:28:32.560
down to a friend in tennessee for thanksgiving and i took a a mega bus down you know poor we have to
00:28:39.600
travel by bus and i took a mega bus down and i had a bag under it and we i had to get off in chattanooga
00:28:46.240
which was the final destination was atlanta and they get out and they're like okay where's your
00:28:50.320
bag i'm like oh it's under the thing and they open it and they they feel around they're like ah
00:28:54.000
yeah we can't find it we have a schedule to do we have we have to go and they just drove away
00:28:59.440
with my bag with all of my changes of clothes and i arrived late wednesday night so i had to go to a
00:29:06.480
walmart which thanks to american capitalism was open on thanksgiving and i had to buy an entire set of
00:29:13.040
clothes for the whole weekend so i had that perspective i actually one of my first jobs was
00:29:17.840
in high school i took the the seasonal job at target and my first day like first real day was
00:29:26.240
thanksgiving or black friday so i had to wake up after thanksgiving when i was like a sophomore
00:29:33.920
in high school at like literally 4 a.m i had to be at target at 4 30 help stock everything this was
00:29:40.640
still the days that they still open the doors like charlie was talking about before they just
00:29:45.360
like leave it open or open like super early and there would be like i get there at like four o'clock
00:29:50.640
and there would be a line wrapped around the building that people waiting to get in and we had to stock
00:29:55.200
everything so so here's a crazy story so you guys there's a myth that black friday is the day after
00:30:04.640
thanksgiving and you know what why that's a myth because the real truth is the real truth is that
00:30:12.720
thanksgiving is the day before black friday and that is because let me finish the story this is because
00:30:20.240
i am not making it up the current date of thanksgiving is because of like an evil plot by fdr
00:30:27.680
no i'm not making this up so lincoln's proclamation of thanksgiving is thanksgiving is on the last
00:30:34.220
thursday of the month yes it is on the last thursday right it is not on the last thursday it
00:30:39.280
it is currently on the fourth thursday of the month that is what the federal law is so there are
00:30:44.620
sometimes five requires a friday so there are sometimes five uh thursdays in november and then it
00:30:51.480
would be on the fourth it used to be on the fifth and then during the great depression i believe in
00:30:55.400
1939 fdr got in his head if there's a longer like if there's a longer time between thanksgiving and
00:31:03.920
christmas there will be a longer christmas shopping season and so people will shop more and this will
00:31:09.840
stimulate the economy and so he intervened and he moved thanksgiving to be a week earlier and this
00:31:18.000
became a partisan political issue and so for a few years uh republican states said we're not doing
00:31:25.140
this and we're refusing to go along with it so you had a democrat thanksgiving on the fourth thursday
00:31:31.020
and you had a republican thanksgiving on the fifth one and i think texas because they were a democrat
00:31:37.480
state but had a lot of like conservative democrats who didn't like fdr they called the truce and they
00:31:42.340
just had they said they're both holidays and they had two thanksgivings and then sadly congress submitted
00:31:49.380
and now it's just on the fourth thursday and we we lost that culture war battle what you were saying
00:31:54.760
though what you were saying though there's a deeper and and producer faz talks about this all the time
00:32:00.040
his birthday was this week by the way shout out um he calls it micro wins micro w's and how so charlie
00:32:06.420
you'd appreciate this is that like in in your teenage years and and working retail you know used to be
00:32:13.000
part of this too but in your teenage years there used to be a variety of things that you would do as a
00:32:16.680
right of passage that have all been pretty much completely destroyed because of new technology
00:32:21.700
um one of those of course was waiting in line like this another one of those you know having those
00:32:26.980
retail jobs again with no phone to like just you know constantly be there getting you through it
00:32:31.960
monotony going through it um one of the other ones we i don't know how i got into this the other day
00:32:37.260
on twitter was like it's not even thanksgiving related but it was like when you used to have to call
00:32:41.040
someone's house and if you wanted to if you wanted to call a girl you had to call her house and you
00:32:46.840
had to get through mom or potentially dad and so it's like the elimination of all those things in
00:32:55.140
society has now created men or adults who don't actually go through any meaningful rite of passage
00:33:02.240
no i mean i totally agree with that i mean some of these other rites of passage were like
00:33:07.060
elementary things such as be home before dark like that was like a very simple thing right
00:33:12.880
um i mean other rites of passage were that you need to memorize like you say the home phone numbers
00:33:19.820
of at least five people that yeah memorizing phone numbers right i don't think anybody does that
00:33:23.960
anymore like anybody i know tanya's um i know my parents um i know all the phone numbers from when i
00:33:29.320
grew up i know a bunch of when i grew up yeah like i know a bunch of my buddies um but like my brother
00:33:34.320
got a cell phone later i don't know i also think it was really important that when i used to call
00:33:40.080
somebody's house i had to speak to an adult that's what i'm saying i think i think that was that's
00:33:43.880
what i'm saying think about that think about i think it's a very under appreciated there was no
00:33:48.520
texting it didn't exist no when i was in sixth grade aol instant messenger was just starting okay
00:33:54.860
and that was a thing but it had to be on a like publicly available computer in my house
00:34:00.140
and it wasn't like you couldn't like bring it with you at all times it was like there was like
00:34:04.180
a very you know like so it was just like logging on and logging off was a thing oh it was totally a
00:34:09.700
thing that's they had the away message like yeah and like you would come home to see if you got any
00:34:14.420
messages and i actually again i don't even know if that was a healthier version of this crap that we
00:34:19.980
have right now much healthier and so i i loved aol instant messenger for the record i thought it was
00:34:24.520
really fun um and it was actually a really really good service i it was really i mean i really liked
00:34:30.140
it and it was a lot of our social norms a lot of our social norms on texting it came from aol
00:34:35.240
instant messenger oh yeah that's right does lol comes from that lol brb lol ttyl lol absolutely
00:34:43.280
comes from aol instant messenger aol still exists by the way there are still millions of people getting
00:34:49.100
they shut down instant messenger instant messenger has been dead not only is instant messenger is that
00:34:53.560
right it's been dead aim is done aim is dead i i charlie it's even older than that because i i was
00:35:00.340
on instant messenger because jack and i are a little bit older than you i was on a semester no but i'm
00:35:05.480
saying it was big i would just like to know it started to grow tyler is way older than charlie
00:35:10.240
way old so yeah so jack's older than me yeah tyler actually is the first that's what that brings back
00:35:17.140
like yeah yeah yeah oh it's so yeah i loved aol yeah aol is my wedding invite oh here's another
00:35:24.280
here's another rite of passage okay um playing a video game so much that it overheats
00:35:30.600
oh yeah yeah no that's what was it right that's like a real thing we're playing a game playing a game
00:35:36.540
jack knows what i'm talking about especially computer games though no no no no if you play for too long
00:35:41.920
and your computer wasn't that sophisticated or good your computer the whole hard drive would like
00:35:45.560
yeah start to like overheat right that's a real thing 100 or how about another one um
00:35:50.240
playing on either like age of empires or sims or like whatever it was and like it malfunctioning
00:35:57.360
before you save or you can like log your progress right mom mom unplugging the nintendo before
00:36:04.560
well when when you were on like level eight of mario and there was no way to save or no way at all
00:36:11.180
boys mom telling you to pause the game when it's actually online and you're playing against other
00:36:16.040
people yeah i had numerous times beating a defeating a level super super mario and then forgetting to
00:36:24.900
save it and you shut it off and you go back you're like ah that's shameful so funny things we worried
00:36:30.700
about back then were just like so insignificant i miss i'll say this i don't know if any guys
00:36:34.900
remember this one i miss new music tuesdays does anyone else remember new music too so that was
00:36:39.680
when yeah albums would release on tuesdays right i think games still released on tuesdays a lot they
00:36:44.520
did at least when i was a kid i think god there's something um yeah so maybe that might have varied
00:36:48.840
now too a group of music and it was always tuesdays that would come out so you used to have like
00:36:53.580
these mini black friday type things where you'd go on i guess people still kind of do it for games
00:36:58.080
where you would come out for you know new music or you know a new album was dropping so um back when
00:37:04.300
music actually was like good and because that being said i did see creed again this week so
00:37:09.000
i'm trying to think of other rites of passage oh yeah knowing the dial-up sound is definitely a rite
00:37:14.560
of passage like not having super fast internet all the time definitely just having to sit remember
00:37:20.640
waiting for websites to load do you remember um asking friends for rides oh
00:37:25.860
uber existed wait wait charlie like what about asking directions and having to know directions
00:37:31.100
i i'm still really good at directions partially because you had to know where you were going
00:37:34.920
like this was before gps how about this how does it know when printing out map quest directions
00:37:39.360
printing it out we'll see i use that not the best i used to be cheap so i would just write it down
00:37:43.140
wait charlie were you around charlie were you i would go to map quest and then i would write
00:37:48.480
down the directions and then i just like bring my little note card with me what were you saying
00:37:52.220
blake charlie charlie you might be too young i once had a a journey where my parents made me actually
00:37:57.700
uh narrate the the turns to make on an actual physical map that we had purchased like with you
00:38:04.680
know the highways of america oh yeah no no all the time 100 i remember i remember i was living in
00:38:10.340
new jersey for two years when i was in junior high and my mom printed them out on map quest and was
00:38:15.180
going somewhere for my brother's football game and got so lost and turned around she like pulled
00:38:21.240
over in a gas station crying because she didn't know where to go or how to go anywhere she was like
00:38:27.100
completely lost like in any place i had no idea it makes you think like actually sorry i'm off for
00:38:33.600
is it a good thing or a bad thing we have the gps i mean in some ways like we're probably more
00:38:38.020
efficient when when china comes after us that's the first thing they're going for oh yeah number one
00:38:42.920
day one number it's it's that one and like all of our online banking yeah it's crazy how it used to
00:38:48.360
be yeah i don't know if you still have to do this but i know in uh london in the uk to become a cab
00:38:54.900
driver you used to have to maybe you still do but you had to pass this test called the knowledge
00:39:00.140
and it was basically you had to memorize the location of like 27 000 different things
00:39:07.120
in london and like people would like lose their minds attempting to pass this thing and
00:39:11.920
obviously you want to know still around it's obviously just a gate to yeah it's more difficult
00:39:16.900
to become a cab driver they've done they passed the bar i feel like they've done could use a little
00:39:22.140
bit of that they've done brain scans of cab drivers that have that have mastered the knowledge
00:39:26.840
and their hippoclamus which is the actual part of memory is bigger in their brain than the average
00:39:32.260
person and so in order for that to be true in order and this is actually so that's self-selecting
00:39:38.260
no no no in order for that to be true the one of two things are true either that these are people
00:39:42.160
with disproportionately big hippoclampuses that are coming into the taxi business or your brain can
00:39:48.980
change which is it was the most profound giant hippoclampuses no but but um sorry hippocampus
00:39:57.560
thank you it's the thing that was indelible in in blah in blasi ford's brain remember
00:40:03.080
indelible in the hippocampus however it is it was the most it was the most profound development
00:40:10.060
of neuroscience in the last 20 years discovery to show that your brain raw material can change
00:40:15.500
based on your environment and your circumstances potentially there is no other explanation there's
00:40:20.620
no way that people that have disproportionately active parts of the hippocampus all just want to
00:40:25.200
become taxi drivers right it's just that this is not a thing well no no the the idea would be then
00:40:29.300
that those are the only ones who can pass the test no again it's just it defies logic because it's
00:40:35.060
you're in the you're in the sub one set of the standard deviation right these people like just
00:40:40.440
happen to all want to become cab drivers no no way meaning that your brain can actually become better
00:40:45.100
at a certain task so it's applied so it's like a muscle that yeah actually let me find the study
00:40:49.120
it's super interesting so the more you work it was in sean astor's book called the happiness
00:40:54.300
advantage let me see here um so the idea being then the more you yeah the more you work it out
00:41:00.060
the same way like when you go to the gym and you're like i'm going to focus on whatever muscle
00:41:04.280
this is right here a taxi driver's knowledge is often linked to an enlarged hippocampus blah blah
00:41:09.240
blah key points and the study here shows about brain plasticities phenomenon demonstrates the brain's
00:41:14.380
ability to adapt and change based on the experience where the hippocampus can grow in response to
00:41:18.320
intensive spatial learning so so let's put this on the flip side then the fact that we're all using
00:41:23.020
gps now it makes us dumber is literally and unless unless you do what i do which is you try to re
00:41:29.360
you try to anticipate where the gps is taking you before because the gps is like ai it could be an
00:41:34.060
enhancement to you or it could just make you right totally check out well it's sometimes wrong well the
00:41:38.360
gps is wrong all the time yeah all the time all the time when mikey's driving i'm like why is it
00:41:41.700
taking us this way not that way yeah that's a good sign if you are fact checking your gps
00:41:45.280
you are getting actually i did this when we were driving around pennsylvania with my brother during
00:41:50.100
the election and we were uh we were driving from penn state to philadelphia and at one point it wanted
00:41:56.100
us to go on this road which would take us to baltimore and i was like why are we driving to
00:42:00.780
baltimore it's 83 south we need 76 east because we need to go to philadelphia because we're going to the
00:42:06.480
eagles game and now it eventually like picked up but i remember sitting there looking at it and it
00:42:13.440
was just it was just clearly wrong it's clearly wrong i put it in the chat the scientific american
00:42:17.040
okay i gotta dash you guys keep talking um happy thanksgiving everybody and you guys hold on the fort
00:42:23.100
happy thanksgiving charlie have a great thanksgiving charlie i i see that no i did not realize charlie
00:42:29.080
was such a a uh thanksgivophile charlie's missing out on the most important way his hatred of corn
00:42:36.360
i should do a thanksgiving dinner for charlie at m fest i completely agree charlie i actually think
00:42:42.220
that my favorite we'll put a turkey out my favorite holiday is thanksgiving it's the most american holiday
00:42:49.220
charlie's right about that it's by far the most american holiday it is i think it tops the fourth of
00:42:54.360
good it's a good one i do feel like american christmas might be better because it like so
00:43:00.680
clearly makes libs irate and in particular the fact that libs throughout history have repeatedly
00:43:08.540
attempted to kill christmas like the the the jerkhead puritans who won in the the more jerkish ones who won
00:43:16.340
the civil war in england like they tried to ban christmas yeah and wait blake but is it is it christian to
00:43:22.520
celebrate christmas it's not in the bible yeah yeah i know it's like weird right after charlie leaves
00:43:27.280
right after charlie leaves that's yeah that's like libs throughout history have tried to kill christmas
00:43:32.540
repeatedly and they can't they did actually ban it they did actually ban it in massachusetts i want to
00:43:38.340
say so yeah and like they fail christmas always comes back because normal people love christmas
00:43:42.600
because christmas is awesome i'm not disagreeing or arguing with you at all that's not my point i'm
00:43:46.900
trying to bring up but the one reason why i love thanksgiving and i think this is crazy for
00:43:52.300
people who have like multiple families they have to go visit so when you're married you have to go
00:43:55.980
see everybody's families and grandparents and cousins all that stuff and see everybody
00:44:00.980
for whatever reason christmas feels so much more stressful going and doing all that
00:44:06.720
and thanksgiving i mean you have basically the same amount of stops you have to arguably do even more
00:44:13.760
work i mean i i think thanksgiving is a lot of work like you have to yeah especially for the moms and
00:44:20.800
grandmas and everybody else is making food but it's just such a less stress-filled day i think
00:44:26.480
christmas feels way more i think a lot of people feel stressed out by christmas because they worry
00:44:30.300
they fret about giving their kids a perfect christmas yeah i don't think anyone frets about you know
00:44:35.260
giving their kid the perfect thanksgiving that's a huge yeah that's a huge part of stress that's a huge
00:44:40.380
stress for yeah i know uh for us like when it comes to christmas that's always definitely something
00:44:46.800
where going from like receiving christmas to being a parent when you are giving christmas
00:44:54.440
along with santa claus that you know as a parent you really have to work with santa
00:45:00.060
and there's a lot more that goes on as opposed to being a kid and you just sort of experience
00:45:05.760
christmas that um it is stressful it's definitely stressful and it's it's something that i've i've
00:45:12.760
noticed it's like one of the biggest differences of becoming you know becoming a parent or becoming
00:45:18.180
a father is that you you know and obviously we're not doing a christmas episode here but
00:45:22.100
yeah it's it's in order of magnitude higher than that for thanksgiving and on thanksgiving you don't
00:45:28.980
even have a say in helping you yeah i i typed in the chat i'm just surprised that black friday hasn't
00:45:34.760
been canceled you talked about canceling yeah yeah i think i think it there were a few efforts
00:45:41.280
i want to say there were probably a few efforts i i saw it kind of bubble up more than a few times
00:45:47.420
on and and by the way you see this um you see this pretty often where they'll say you know why is it
00:45:54.640
that a black hat in cowboy movies is associated with negative or darth vader is associated with negative
00:46:00.300
something in a movie and so the black color is associated with being negative whereas the you
00:46:06.120
know the white collar is all white hat is a good person and white and black etc and so they they'll
00:46:10.840
try to do that but it's just so ingrained in movies that there's not much you can do with it obviously
00:46:15.980
the new uh wicked movie that's um you know that's out right now which looks horrible um is like totally
00:46:22.700
you know totally a play on that as well with you know is the witch good or bad but of course they
00:46:27.400
instead of that they actually decided to racialize it as opposed to just leaving it how it is in the
00:46:31.700
book and musical so they added this whole other dimension to it and um you yeah you do see you do
00:46:37.960
see this come up with black friday every once in a while because they were they were just kind of
00:46:42.140
going for broke there in 2020 blake they were just trying to go after like anything they could think
00:46:47.160
of speaking of movies there's like no thanksgiving movies really should there be more could there be
00:46:54.180
more or do they just get eaten by yeah there totally should be more well there's um there's
00:46:57.340
planes trains and automobiles i think is like there's that one but other than that there's
00:47:01.600
just like there's there's the eli roth horror movie that i haven't seen and then there's some like
00:47:07.160
really bad b movies i saw last year thanks killing and thanks killing 2 according to wikipedia
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the last of the mohicans thanks killing thanks killing 1 was terrible but thanks killing 2 actually
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i feel like it rises above the subject material you revitalize the franchise there's really they just
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they did a lot they they went in different directions that i didn't expect what about last
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of the mohicans can we make that is that a is it thanksgiving themed no but you'd think there'd be
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like a classic cartoon thanksgiving movie that's got like well you do you know what i mean like
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there's a charlie brown one yeah that's like pretty og yeah charlie brown is like all you got but
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that's not even a movie that's just like a special i'm now looking i'm looking now i guess
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one thing about it is i think the thanksgiving the macy's parade displaces where you might
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otherwise watch a watch a thanksgiving movie well also football also reminder there's a bunch of
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movies that release on thanksgiving so people go watch true the the compilation of movies that are
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coming out like i'm going with my family on friday to see moana 2 which we celebrate because
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moana 1 came out in 2016 right after trump one and yeah i'm looking at the list of wikipedia doesn't
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have a list of thanksgiving movies they just have a list of movies set around thanksgiving so apparently
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like beethoven oh beethoven movie that was that was i think it was on the cover uh like because doesn't
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like beethoven like get the turkey i don't i haven't seen beethoven in a long time paul blart
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that's like again thanksgiving movie that is a scene yeah because there's a well no because there's
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a um there's a uh black friday scene in it okay all right uh broke back mountain as a thanksgiving
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movie apparently like what are you doing right now this is a bad bad decision blake a bad the blind
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side oh no wait no there is there is that turkey movie there is that like the thanksgiving movie where
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someone tried to make a turkey movie like a couple years ago free birds was it called it was just so
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bad it was not good it's one of those low grade blue sky movies i think or whatever they made a
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friendsgiving comedy oh turkey hollow we watched turkey hollow a couple years ago it was really weird
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the big chill is that thanksgiving turkeys or the turkeys are like uh these like uh they live in the
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woods and they're like half um you know fantastical creatures of some sort wait that's a jim henson movie
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jim henson's turkey hollow yeah yeah well it must be just his company right because uh it's definitely
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not a like thanksgiving wait wait wait wait we're missing the most obvious one that is always shows
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on thanksgiving it's the miracle on 34th street is that a because it takes place around that's
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obviously a christmas movie yeah that's the thing about it that's like like thanksgiving is eaten by
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christmas yeah but it's a did you know jingle bells is a thanksgiving song yeah but but go back to to
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that that's a traditional thanksgiving jingle bells is about traveling to visit someone on thanksgiving
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and they've just made it a christmas song oh really yeah but it is apparently it is a thanksgiving song
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where where were they living they need to slay for for thanksgiving i don't know probably there's
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probably the same place where they were like the hotel people are still called chambermaids
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canada yeah ooh ooh that's that's harsh wait didn't charlie say chambermaid on that one yeah
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that's the point yeah a couple weeks exactly a while ago you've got mail as a thanksgiving movie
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apparently what some of these are just since we were talking about okay just because a movie has a
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scene in it which takes place in a certain you know you know there's like a turkey scene or
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whatever that doesn't make it a movie about that unless the movie is 100 dedicated to um the holiday
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then it is not a movie that belongs to that holiday well that's like that's like the debate over the
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die hard is a christmas movie daily wire is not a christmas movie it is not it is not i agree on
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that one we need daily wire to make a thanksgiving movie apparently oh dear what is it daily wire yeah
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what is it what daily the daily wire ben shapiro ben shapiro's thanksgiving yeah
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he's like it's like ben's in the kitchen he's so good
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well he's like going through like the perfect cranberry mix
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is it a lot oh man this is like oh wait wait we forgot to do we should have done one thing with
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with charlie to end the end it all out so we'll have to um uh i would go so far as to say i'd love
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to find a way to like edit this in if we could because we should all go around and say one thing
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we're thankful for yeah i agree other than other than winning other than winning we can't say that
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has to be like a personal thing because that's what we do with my family blake you can start oh no
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no you're putting the pressure on me uh so i i'll start okay i'll start so actually my brother braxton
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just had his his third child uh two days ago two days ago so braxton just had his third child which uh
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were really excited about all was great and baby came out great we were worried because i went with
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my brother to the asu game on saturday and my sister-in-law was a week overdue so he really
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shouldn't have been maybe doing that but asu won she got induced on on sunday and uh and then they
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named the baby tate and then they used my middle name storm so his name is tate storm boyer which is
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my name is tyler storm where so so they named the baby kind of middle name i don't know if it's after
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me but it's in the same name so very grateful okay babies i have a uh
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if i wanted to be serious i can say it but it's it's i don't want to give away exactly um where i
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live but there's this i'll just say there's this like christmas tradition um that has been going on
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for just years and last year it got canceled because there was like a financial issue
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and it um basically people just kind of rallied and the whole community came together and was like
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no and it was a kid's thing and it was like we're you know we're totally going to save this and it's
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going to come back next year it's going to be amazing and it we totally did and i threw a bunch
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of money in and it's back and it just started and the kids love it and it's amazing so i'm just
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really happy for that really thankful that that worked out because we thought we were going to
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lose this thing and i i couldn't even tell you what it is it's just it's just a thing that kids
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do every uh every year and they can go to and it came back and it was awesome and it is awesome and
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it will continue to be awesome for a long time it's going to be bigger now i think than ever because
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uh you know closing down and it's sort of like uh you know a local landmark and there was um you know
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just like this this stupid thing that happened last year and uh it was cool to see people do that
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and it's just great because i can see that with my kids and then i can take them to see it as well
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and and see that tradition keep going i love that and also of course for saquon barkley so i'm very
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very thankful for saquon barkley and the eagles oh yeah i am thankful mvp mvp i am thankful that uh
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tomorrow as of when or wait no two days from now as of when we're recording this i forgot what day it
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was that the neff family my parents my brother my two sisters their spouses their children will
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assemble for thanksgiving there will be trying to do the math in my head but quite a few number of
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people and there will be no libs no libs and no steak and no steak so it will be all all proper
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all proper forms will be observed you won't have a single lib in your house no libs wow
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same here the neff family even i have a few libs in my house yeah exactly see we we very great i'll
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say this how big is the gathering of people well like i said it's pretty i mean it even i mean in
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the past we would have had more satellite branches of the family but even even if we added those in it
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would still be the case but wow maybe like one shaky person who like voted for obama in a moment
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of weakness or something but like definitely with the with the core ones like my parents lucked out
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they had four kids and none of them like went to college and were suddenly like i realized all my
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immediate family is is is super conservative yeah there's some there's some questionable so like
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extended but like all the marriages are good the kids are good so far although the oldest is like
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the oldest grandbaby is like four so i guess you know no no lib tendency i would we haven't we haven't
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really talked about this but you know the whole like libs and conservatives getting it for thanksgiving
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i'm for it i'm all for it um the there are several liberal members of the uh extended pozo family and uh
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and on on other people's sides who um basically just won't come um to thanksgiving anymore and it's sad
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and i think it sucks and i think because of you bigger politics um no no no it's it's just because
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they refuse to be around trump supporters they just will will not you know sit down and break bread with
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someone who could support that man and it's it's horrible you know i mean and i think it's just really
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sad that um that they would do that and it's you know but at the same time it's like you know if they
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ever wanted to come back there's no um no hard feelings i mean we just we just would love to get
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the family back together again it's not even not even something we're mad about we just uh just think
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it'd be really cool for my my kids to be able to see that side of the family really great so open
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invitation not that you're watching thought crime but it's always open 100 always open i think oh and
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with that since we are right at the very tail end here uh of course we're also thankful for the
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thought crime audience and for everything that you guys have done throughout the uh the year year plus
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that we've done the show hey we won that was pretty cool um make sure by the way i know we haven't said
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incredible event and so uh to everybody watching happy thought crime thanksgiving