On today's episode of Human Events Live with Jack Posobiec, we cover the latest in the Trump/Russia scandal, the latest on the Iran nuclear deal, and much, much more. Jack's Song: "Deliver Us From Evil" by Fountains of Wayne
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00:08:52.300What just happened is the Fulton County grand jury was tainted by the actions of whoever was involved in this and ultimately tainted by DA Fannie Willis because she's the one in charge of this.
00:09:05.700These charges, and we have them right here.
00:09:09.040We have the screenshot from their own website.
00:09:11.600This isn't, by the way, like when I saw Carrie Lake just responded to me on Twitter with that screenshot of her election results reported by media.
00:09:21.220It's actually worse because this is the government telling you, telling you on an official government website that your prosecution will be humming.
00:09:42.400So the question is, and I certainly hope the Trump lawyers get all over this, and I certainly hope they file injunction immediately at whatever court they have to, state level or federal level, to deal with this.
00:09:53.140Because this grand jury has been irrevocably tainted from the very start.
00:10:28.740Because we've been telling you that this is exactly what would be coming for a while now.
00:10:32.560But what we didn't know is that they were going to tip their hand in such a way that it actually taints the grand jury itself.
00:10:39.780And keep in mind that this grand jury is the second grand jury in the case.
00:10:44.440Because I believe we have some footage of the original jury foreman in the special grand jury who was seated last year looking into all of this under Fannie Webb.
00:10:56.960So now they're tainting this grand jury.
00:12:19.500I think we're going to do like a frustrated alarm or something here on the show because every time I want to catch somebody when they say frustrated,
00:12:25.020you know, there's actually two R's in that word.
00:12:28.100There's two R's in the word frustrated.
00:12:34.280We have a meme up that's sent in by listeners still boneless.
00:12:40.920And for the podcast listeners, it's DA Fannie Willis reading the book Am I Disabled from The Simpsons?
00:12:48.700When you upload the grand jury results before the grand jury has even voted.
00:12:53.860Joining us now, I want to bring him in.
00:12:55.720Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer joins us here.
00:12:58.260Now, Tony, we were going to talk about Ukraine a little bit, some of the new reports that are coming out of there, juxtapose that with Maui.
00:13:04.060But I've got to get your comment, Tony, on all of the breaking news that we're seeing out of this.
00:13:38.500And I think it's grandly ironic that you have a DA who is – I can only imagine the level of incompetence that one has to have to screw things up to this level.
00:13:52.120But this is – George Soros bought the best loyal slugs out there, but he did not bother to actually include competency.
00:14:01.820So that's a good thing for President Trump and the folks actually hoping that there will be some level of justice.
00:14:09.100But, yeah, it's – there's just no way at this point that anybody will take anything coming out of Fulton County out of this situation as serious.
00:14:19.180I mean, everybody knows that this has been a circus, and so I think – well, I think they're going to go forward with the indictments.
00:14:27.200I don't think anybody who actually has an ounce of integrity is going to see this for anything more than being a political witch hunt, which it is.
00:14:36.320Tony, let me ask you a question that I've asked a lot of people about this, this just situation in general, and not necessarily Fulton County, but there's various indictments against Trump right now.
00:14:47.020I asked Vivek Ramaswamy when he was on, and I'll ask you as well.
00:14:52.240Do you think that – you know, we're running out of Rubicons to cross, but do you think that in any of these cases, if given the chance, that they will actually pursue not just conviction, but pursue a sentencing where we see Donald Trump be put behind bars?
00:15:10.340Do you think they will actually try to do that?
00:15:12.140Yeah, if he's convicted, of course they're going to do that.
00:15:15.080This is all about trying to make sure that Trump is locked up.
00:15:22.200I don't believe for a minute, Jack, any case I've seen – I'm not a lawyer.
00:15:26.800I have pretended to be one, and one case is in front of the Iowa Supreme Court as part of mock trial, but I'm not a lawyer, and nor am I pretending to be at this point.
00:15:34.040But from my professional understanding of the law, not a single charge, even if he's convicted, will stand up to the scrutiny of the Supreme Court.
00:15:44.300I think this is all going to go to the Supreme Court.
00:15:46.900It's all going to be overturned, and it's all going to go away.
00:15:50.820But, yes, if the left is successful in landing any one of these issues as a conviction, they're going to seek prison time because they want to humiliate President Trump.
00:16:05.840It's all about trying to basically punish someone who dared oppose the uniparty or whatever you want to call the left-wing progressives and the neocons on the right who essentially are very unhappy with what Trump did or will do if he should come back into power.
00:16:26.560And let me ask you this with your intel officer hat on, because this is something that I've spoken about and something that you know as well.
00:16:40.680Tony, if they – and I'll hold you over.
00:16:43.140Tony, if they move to actually put Trump behind bars, what do you think that does for the stability of the United States?
00:16:50.580Well, that's a whole other can of worms.
00:16:53.480And when you have the population who now I think is awoken – they're not woke, they have awoken to the level of corruption that exists within DOJ and how much of the government has become a solely owned subsidiary of the Democrat Party.
00:17:11.980I have a number of rock and roll friends, Hollywood types, that are quiet, but they're very much aware.
00:17:17.600And, you know, Jack, these are lesbians, these are liberals, these are free speech folks who are fed up with their party doing these horrific things.
00:17:28.140So I think if they're seeing it, you're going to have more America wake up and show up to do something about it.
00:17:33.400I don't think anybody would accept President Trump being put in prison to include a large segment of the traditional liberals who would probably leave the Democrat Party.
00:17:44.100Look, you know, I kind of – I stole Dershowitz's line about the banana republics earlier, and I said we're at four bananas.
00:17:56.380But we need to have serious questions about what the stability of the United States will be in a raucous environment like this when you've got a tainted grand jury now moving.
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00:20:56.460They could have picked him up when he was going for groceries, but no, they went and pursued the most, you know, the most aggressive, most aggressive move they could possibly against him.
00:21:07.520This is something that you guys would do in Afghanistan, you know, after considerable planning, but probably not inside the United States.
00:21:16.260Yeah, certainly not inside the United States.
00:21:17.960But even if you were in Afghanistan, if you had a 300-pound al-Qaeda member with limited mobility, I don't know if the pre-dawn raid is really the route you need to take with it.
00:21:28.940But when you've got a situation like that that's going on on the ground, on a regular basis, it feels like now in the United States, Roger Stone got a pre-dawn raid as well.
00:21:38.300And unfortunately, that one didn't end and escalate as violently as this one did.
00:21:43.060But when we're seeing things like this and also being told that our former president is about to be indicted, he will most likely be convicted by at least one of these juries.
00:21:54.200These sentences clearly hold jail time.
00:22:00.040Walk me through, just take the United States out of it, but walk me through just a neutral country when you are, as an intelligence officer, looking at the potential indicators for civil unrest.
00:22:16.240So the closest analogy to the current situation in modern history is Venezuela.
00:22:21.300If you recall, Jack, the Venezuelan government decided under Hugo Chavez to become essentially a communist state.
00:22:30.180And I'm just, not that I'm calling the Democrat Party communists, I'm saying they've adapted and adopted certain traits of the Soviet Union.
00:22:40.600And we just talked about a few of those.
00:22:42.180So what we saw play out in Venezuela would be playing out here, where you see wholesale chaos, you see lawlessness, you see lack of resources.
00:22:53.360All those things would start and you would have strong political movements who would be activated and responsive to the injustices, as we saw in Venezuela.
00:23:04.860So I think that, to your point regarding instability, Venezuela is never fully recovered.
00:23:13.280It's still basically a third world country.
00:23:15.620So we would, I believe we would see the veneer of a Latin America dictatorship become the most prominent feature of the United States, because that's what Biden, that's what the entire administration, Merrick Garland.
00:23:34.960And I mean, I could go through the rogues gallery of all these folks, Jack, who have basically compromised their integrity for purposes of using their political power to go after a political rival.
00:23:47.900And again, that's what Hugo Chavez has done in the beginning, to be able to establish a path forward for Maduro to have power now.
00:23:55.440It's become very clear that Venezuela, a country full of resources, rich beyond most expectations, the entire population could live very well.
00:24:08.800They don't live well because the fact is their government has become a dictatorship that's focused on a communist model.
00:24:16.660And that's the way I would see things playing out here.
00:24:21.000A little bit different here, though, Jack, I think, because we do have much more of the population armed.
00:24:26.420And please do not take my comments as threatening violence or any such thing.
00:24:31.460All I'm saying is that the population here...
00:24:35.380I'll just, I'll put out the disclaimer, but every time that we want to have one of these discussions, we always have to put out the disclaimer that says,
00:24:41.580we are not calling for that, we are not advocating any of these things.
00:24:46.660I do not want any of this stuff to happen.
00:24:49.460If you want to have a political dispute, fine.
00:25:14.000Now, the other thing about the release valve, let's go back to the inner cities.
00:25:18.220Recently, over the weekend, a part of California I've spent some time in actually had riots because the state of California has basically removed all consequences for theft or minor offenses relating to what they consider social crimes.
00:25:35.320And you had in the Topanga Mall, which I've been to near Tarzana, I have several friends who live there in the Woodland Hills area, had a spontaneous basically riot of people looting the mall.
00:25:51.280So when you see this happening in all of the different major metropolitan areas, that's designed to create violence and chaos.
00:26:01.280It's those who essentially are in the positions of power, who have taken charge of the official levers of government, who are then using those levers to create the chaos and conditions for violence.
00:26:13.440That is through Antifa, through BLM, through these riots, as well as then trying to antagonize a large population, part of the population, by going after a political leader.
00:26:23.500So all violence is being perpetrated and encouraged by the left.
00:26:33.000It's a situation that many have likened to, and they used a phrase, anarcho-tyranny.
00:26:40.960Anarcho-tyranny, because on one level, you've got anarchists, you've got looters, you've got BLM criminals that are essentially given free reign.
00:26:50.880As you say, in California, some of these other blue zone jurisdictions.
00:26:55.600But then on the other hand, if you're a member of the other party and they don't like your Facebook posts, they'll come and kill you at 6.15 in the morning.
00:27:04.060If you, you know, made a phone call, and even though the Washington Post had to retract their initial reporting on the phone call between Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia, and President Trump, that they're still moving forward with an indictment, nevertheless.
00:27:21.020Nevertheless, right, that is the tyranny.
00:27:23.440Or, by the way, if you get into an argument with somebody on an airplane over wearing a mask, or if you're caught, you know, with your taillight out, if you don't have the right vaccination.
00:27:37.360I actually had somebody ask me for a vaccination card last week, and we were doing something in D.C., and I had somebody ask me for a vaccination card.
00:27:59.960Look, within the last 24 hours, there was a decision in one of the federal courts basically chastising the Biden administration for have actively participated in suppression of free speech.
00:28:12.180I mean, during the first two years of the Biden administration, and by the way, Jack, you and I both know a lot of this started under Trump.
00:28:21.560I'm saying Trump was not as proficient as he should have been policing up the ranks of those working for him because the DHS capacity to do the wholesale monitoring and adjustment of information that the government doesn't like happened during Trump's watch.
00:28:41.040And it became really implemented under Biden.
00:28:45.480And Biden's White House was fully wetting.
00:28:48.140The digital director was involved in this.
00:28:55.500When it starts at the White House, it permeates every aspect of federal bureaucracies and every aspect of local jurisdictions, which are essentially controlled or leaning towards the Democrat Party.
00:29:12.220And again, here locally, I live in a very red county in North Carolina.
00:29:15.780Nobody here who recognizes what the larger Democrat Party is doing will have a D near their name.
00:29:24.440So, it's a very dangerous time, but it's all orchestrated with a clear intent to basically suppress any speech they disagree with and provide a path to continued power by the left indefinitely into perpetuity, no matter what it takes to do that.
00:29:39.020Tony Schaefer, you've studied regimes around the world that have used these exact same tactics to crack down on political opponents.
00:29:47.660You are an expert on these types of movements.
00:29:52.780Where can people go to follow you to get your analysis and all the breaking news?
00:29:56.560Well, so ProjectSentinel.com, clearly, Jack, you know, you and I have talked a long time about the need to preserve freedom.
00:30:04.420So, that's our primary website right now, LondonCenter.org.
00:30:08.140LondonCenter Policy Research is the other area where we focus on international politics.
00:30:12.500But the one thing I do ask people to do who see our interview and talk about this is become involved.
00:30:17.640This is not going to get any better without your personal commitment and involvement to do something.
00:30:21.900So, the more we sit back and do nothing, the more the other side takes advantage and goes after political leaders or tries to suppress our speech.
00:30:36.420We are going next and now live to Maui, to the scene of the devastation and everything that's going on there, because we want to help our fellow Americans.
00:30:47.180I'm buzzing in my ear about the boring people at your office.
00:30:54.640I'm trying to listen to the new human events with Jack Posobiec.
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00:32:30.180We are in at base camp for us at King's Cathedral, Maui, where this is early distribution central for us in CityServe and the organizations that are wrapped around King's Cathedral.
00:32:44.660We were, we're actually on our way back into Lahaina now.
00:32:51.400And I'm just going to tell you, Jack, what we saw at Ground Zero was just total and absolute devastation.
00:33:00.940Very apocalyptic, actually, is the best way to describe it.
00:33:05.860And so when, when you see this, tell us, are you seeing, you know, and I hate to say this, but we've heard that there were 96 confirmed deaths already.
00:33:17.780But are you seeing or hearing any more?
00:33:20.460Because I've been getting a lot of reports just through social media, through the Internet.
00:33:25.660I'm sure you're hearing more on the ground that we've been told that those numbers are essentially low.
00:33:31.400And are you seeing anything that can confirm those reports or is that just, is that just chatter?
00:33:36.900What we experienced yesterday was we actually, in the pictures that you're showing on the screen right now, those are areas, quite frankly, that hadn't even, the cadaver dogs had not been there yet.
00:33:51.240So it's, there's a lot of territory that's yet to be combed over.
00:33:57.560And I think you're going to find, unfortunately, that those numbers are going to skyrocket.
00:34:03.020So when we're seeing these images, by the way, you know, people keep asking, they say, this, this, this is the craziest wildfire that, that we've seen, because these images to me look like something that you would see out of a war zone.
00:34:18.600And it looks like when, you know, the military conducts an air burst, the scorch marks that we're seeing, some of the bodies of animals that we've seen, there was a dog video that was going around, looks completely charred.
00:34:30.620Are you able to walk us through some of the things that you saw like that?
00:34:35.180Yeah, it's, you know, war zone actually is probably a great description.
00:34:40.420Again, like I say, you're, you're seeing what we shot yesterday.
00:34:55.400There was such a traffic jam that people literally left their cars, ran on foot, jumped in the ocean, did whatever they needed to do in order to get away from this very aggressive wildfire.
00:35:10.420Only the, so when, when something like this comes up, we were also hearing reports that there, there are early warning systems.
00:35:17.620There's alert systems within the area.
00:35:19.920Only three minutes were people not receiving these, these messages we get on our phones all the time.
00:36:00.220Well, you can't, uh, you can't get into Lahaina, uh, unless you have, uh, someone who is a resident there.
00:36:09.360It's, uh, you know, what's really interesting, Jack, is, you know, wildfires evidently have a mind of their own.
00:36:17.620Uh, in, in, in those pictures that, that, that you've seen, uh, literally blocks were, were wiped out, but then you'd have a house right smack in the middle of it that wasn't touched.
00:36:30.760And, uh, it's, uh, it's, there's just no, uh, no rhyme or reason to it.
00:36:37.080It just really just happened that, that way.
00:36:39.760And so they're beginning to get back in to see, uh, everything that I saw that was burned was, was just a total, complete devastation.
00:36:48.600There was no recovery of, uh, of property at all.
00:36:53.620So tell us a little bit about CityServe.
00:36:55.840What is CityServe doing and how can people support your efforts?
00:37:01.360CityServe is an organization that is dedicated in, uh, meeting the needs of our communities through the local church.
00:37:10.060Uh, our, uh, our role and responsibility is to resource the local church so that they can become the heroes in their community.
00:37:16.640And that's what we've done here, uh, in, uh, this area in Maui with, uh, with King's Cathedral.
00:37:22.600Uh, they literally have, uh, become the, uh, the epicenter of health on this island here.
00:37:28.880And, uh, we believe in partnerships, Jack.
00:37:32.120Uh, you know, CityServe partnering with, uh, Paula White Masteries, No Child Hungry, Mercy Chefs.
00:37:38.580All of them are right here in King's Cathedral, just meeting the needs of people.
00:37:44.640Uh, this has become, quite frankly, uh, a place where, uh, people sleep and, and they're, they're, uh, they're housing a, several hundred, uh, Islanders, uh, every single night.
00:37:55.580We're feeding them three square meals a day, uh, compliments of Mercy Chefs and, uh, CityServe is coming along and we, uh, we augment and supplement this with, uh, we've got 250,000 pre-packed meals coming.
00:38:09.360Uh, we have clothing, uh, from our friends at Jockey that, uh, will, uh, will be, uh, they're on their way now as well.
00:38:16.060So, uh, we're here just to lift up the, the arms and, and just to show the love of Jesus to the people who are, who are hurting here and on the island.
00:38:28.480Now, and I imagine that with some of these displaced folks, um, unfortunately it has to be said that, that you have situations where maybe the family's been, uh, separated.
00:38:38.000You're missing someone, a family member, God forbid, missing a child separated from parents.
00:38:43.120We heard, we heard there were stories about kids being sent home.
00:38:46.400The parents didn't know they were home or they were sent somewhere else.
00:38:48.980Uh, how is the recovery of missing persons, or at least the, hopefully the meetup of missing persons and separated persons going logistically?
00:38:58.260Yeah, from day one, uh, that has been the number one issue here is it's making sure that people are, are, are well, are safe, um, are somewhere.
00:39:08.000You know, we're day, uh, I think we're day four or five into this now.
00:39:12.840So, uh, most of those, if they haven't connected, uh, with a loved one by now, uh, I think they've, uh, they've got some, uh, heavy hearts, uh, that will be happening.
00:39:48.540Uh, and they can click on the Maui relief button.
00:39:51.980100% of what, uh, is given will, uh, will be going to the efforts here with, uh, in Maui and, uh, uh, working through the church here at King's Cathedral.
00:40:01.580100%, that's amazing because, you know, we, we look at some of the things that go on around the world and, and, and I know that, uh, Todd, you've also done work in, in Ukraine as well, uh, going around, I was there last year.
00:40:14.720Um, you know, this, this, this is the same type of thing, unfortunately, that you would see in a war zone in a disaster area.
00:40:35.120You do what you can in situations like this.
00:40:38.400You step up and when it comes to, when it comes to answers, okay, we are going to do everything we can at human events to press our government to explain exactly what happened and exactly what went wrong with the government warning systems in place.
00:40:57.700Why were people only given three minutes?
00:41:00.900How did a situation like this ever begin in the first place?
00:41:04.500Because I know people want to point fingers, but before we do that, we need answers.
00:41:08.560And as always on human events, we will get the receipts.
00:41:42.980He's with city serve, but he needs you and your audience and your, you in this audience, you in this voice, your voice to take action.
00:41:50.760All right, this is where you can actually take action and say, look, we know there's some terrible things that we're seeing that we have to talk about every day here on the show.
00:41:58.860This is a chance where we can actually do something to help.
00:42:02.600So, Todd, let people know that if, if they do want to get involved with city serve, what then happens is, you know, you talked about financial, uh, support.
00:42:34.040Um, want people to, uh, to invoke the, uh, the God of heaven to really come down and to help and to love on the beautiful people on the island here.
00:42:42.600The second thing we want them to do is we want them to give, uh, God has blessed us so that we can be a blessing to others.
00:42:48.880And, uh, they can go to cityserve.us, uh, we know, uh, uh, Paula White Ministries at PaulaWhite.org is also, uh, 100% of what goes there goes straight to, uh, the efforts here, uh, in, uh, in Maui.
00:43:04.340But the third thing is this, so we ask, we ask people to pray, we ask people to give, and then we ask people to act, to respond.
00:45:26.520You've got help to give, tell people one more time where they can go to support these efforts, to help their fellow Americans, to be there, to be that shoulder, to be that hand of Christ in this time, in this moment.
00:45:41.860Thank you, Jack, for bringing awareness to this, uh, on your program.
00:45:45.360I'm in, uh, we would just encourage people go to CityServe.us, uh, slash Maui Relief, just CityServe.us.
00:45:56.720You'll be able to get all the information there.
00:45:59.400100% goes to, uh, the relief efforts here, uh, through King's Cathedral, uh, paulawite.org, same thing.
00:46:08.600Uh, those are two ministries that have connected together, CityServe and Paula White Ministries, to, uh, to really, uh, be a helping hand to the beautiful people on this island.
00:48:14.320We can go back to being the kind of country where we care about the people here, where we listen to folks like Oliver Anthony and the fact that he's singing about the people of this country who are having trouble just getting by.
00:48:31.740So do you want to keep simping for globalists or do you want to do something to actually help out your fellow countrymen?
00:48:41.680Because that's exactly what America first means.
00:48:46.800Whether it's Americans or in the inner city, whether they are in Hawaii, wherever they are, that means we're going to do what it takes and do what is necessary to correct the problems of this country.
00:49:01.680And we know what the answers are, folks.