Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - February 28, 2024


EP 681: MIGRANT SAVAGES STACK VICTIMS ACROSS AMERICA - REGIME IN DISARRAY OVER NEW TRUMP NUMBERS


Episode Stats

Length

49 minutes

Words per Minute

160.2545

Word Count

7,867

Sentence Count

455

Misogynist Sentences

12

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

This is what happens when the 4th Turning meets 5th Generation Warfare. A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran, Jack Posobiec delivers the latest on the latest in politics and current events.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 This is what happens when the fourth turning meets fifth generation warfare.
00:00:40.100 A commentator, international social media sensation, and former Navy intelligence veteran.
00:00:46.780 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Posobiec.
00:00:49.740 Deliver us from evil.
00:00:50.980 Our election projection, Donald Trump, the projected winner of the Michigan primary.
00:00:55.420 But President Trump's number at the moment is actually more than all of the Democratic Party primary voters together.
00:01:03.080 Everyone, it's Rashida.
00:01:04.480 I was proud today to walk in and pull a Democratic ballot and vote uncommitted.
00:01:10.700 President Biden and former President Trump coming off huge wins in Michigan.
00:01:15.100 But it's these voters who shook up the Democratic primary.
00:01:18.420 Overnight, an extremely unusual watch party for voters who cast their ballots not for a candidate,
00:01:24.560 but for uncommitted in protest of President Biden's handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
00:01:29.820 I had a one-on-one for a period of time with the president, just he and I in the Oval Office.
00:01:34.880 When I showed up today, my purpose was to express what I believe is the obvious truth,
00:01:40.580 and that is that we must take care of America's needs first.
00:01:44.160 When you talk about America's needs, you have to talk first about our open border.
00:01:49.620 In the main, I caution against conflating immigration and crime.
00:01:53.420 The data demonstrates that the two are not connected.
00:01:56.000 While 2019 was not that long ago, you might remember the dynamic we were living in,
00:02:01.000 in the late teens in this country, where you had the president of the United States
00:02:06.500 speaking in the most vile terms about people who were foreign-born.
00:02:10.140 And you had that notion metastasizing in places like Charlottesville.
00:02:15.820 This is an invasion!
00:02:17.260 You voted to make Athens-Clarke County a sanctuary city, sir.
00:02:23.580 Who? What's their name?
00:02:25.840 Many of the elements.
00:02:26.980 Liar!
00:02:27.540 Many of the elements.
00:02:28.900 Liar!
00:02:29.640 Liar!
00:02:30.380 Liar!
00:02:30.680 We are here to listen.
00:02:32.900 Liar!
00:02:33.360 You're a liar!
00:02:34.440 We are here to listen.
00:02:35.300 Liar!
00:02:35.720 You're a liar!
00:02:36.860 You are guilty and got blood on your hands for this murder!
00:02:42.060 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily,
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00:03:21.540 And there's also a new angel family down in Georgia,
00:03:27.360 family of Lake and Riley.
00:03:28.340 Yet, the mayor of her city,
00:03:34.860 the city where she lived,
00:03:38.680 where she was going to get her education,
00:03:41.660 where she was just starting her life,
00:03:44.560 where she went out with her friends,
00:03:48.420 by all accounts,
00:03:50.800 seems like a completely normal girl from Georgia.
00:03:57.220 Volunteered with her church,
00:03:59.100 did some mission trips down in Central America.
00:04:01.540 And this mayor,
00:04:07.980 this, and look,
00:04:09.120 I said I was going to be nice for Lent online.
00:04:14.980 So I'll just say it this way.
00:04:16.300 This person makes me feel disgust
00:04:21.780 when I hear his words apologizing
00:04:25.580 for illegal aliens
00:04:27.560 that he's allowed into his city
00:04:30.300 to abuse and mutilate his citizenry.
00:04:36.360 Whether you want to call it
00:04:37.920 pathological altruism or something else,
00:04:40.940 I don't know.
00:04:41.820 I'm not a psychologist.
00:04:42.860 All I know is people like this
00:04:45.720 these unhumans
00:04:47.920 should not be in office.
00:04:51.600 They should be behind bars.
00:04:54.080 They should be in a labor camp somewhere
00:04:56.880 trying to understand
00:04:59.020 why it is that they have embraced
00:05:02.360 these causes,
00:05:05.220 these isms.
00:05:06.860 Remember, pathological altruism means
00:05:09.520 that you will embrace your cause
00:05:12.140 up to and beyond
00:05:13.500 the point of causing harm,
00:05:16.920 direct, physical, and actual harm
00:05:19.820 in the real world.
00:05:21.920 People have said suicide bombings
00:05:23.380 are potentially an example of this.
00:05:25.660 Certainly the airman
00:05:28.420 who killed himself
00:05:30.040 outside the Israeli embassy
00:05:31.900 in protest of the Gaza War,
00:05:33.960 pathological altruism.
00:05:35.200 By the way, that guy
00:05:35.920 was an intelligence member
00:05:37.840 and had a security clearance,
00:05:39.780 top-level security clearance.
00:05:41.080 We'll have more on that
00:05:42.000 when we get there.
00:05:42.660 Aaron Bucknell, Bushnell.
00:05:44.560 But we must understand
00:05:46.740 there are people in power
00:05:50.040 in this country
00:05:50.940 who do not care
00:05:52.660 when the citizenry
00:05:54.040 are killed and mutilated
00:05:56.960 and they tell you
00:05:59.280 that it's your fault
00:06:01.000 for being xenophobic
00:06:03.080 and having naughty thoughts
00:06:04.880 about the people
00:06:05.980 who did.
00:06:06.700 By the way, death penalty
00:06:07.520 for all of the illegals here.
00:06:09.580 Every single one of them,
00:06:10.860 death penalty.
00:06:11.500 There's no question.
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00:08:13.920 Our guest today.
00:08:15.480 This is interesting.
00:08:16.140 I wasn't planning
00:08:17.100 on setting it up
00:08:18.340 this way
00:08:18.860 and it just sort of
00:08:19.740 worked out.
00:08:20.860 We've got Mayor
00:08:21.600 Trent Staggs
00:08:22.560 from Utah.
00:08:23.800 He's running
00:08:24.160 for U.S.
00:08:24.640 Senate out there.
00:08:25.800 Mayor Staggs,
00:08:26.260 thank you so much
00:08:26.740 for joining us today
00:08:27.600 and if I can,
00:08:29.260 I have to get
00:08:30.460 your response.
00:08:31.340 So we've got
00:08:31.820 mayor to mayor here.
00:08:33.720 This mayor
00:08:34.200 down in Athens,
00:08:35.240 Georgia gives
00:08:36.120 what I can only
00:08:37.240 describe as a
00:08:38.140 completely bizarre
00:08:39.500 press conference
00:08:40.480 following the tragic
00:08:42.680 and horrific death
00:08:44.220 of one of his citizens,
00:08:46.120 a younger,
00:08:46.860 a 22-year-old student
00:08:48.360 jogging at a
00:08:50.020 university campus
00:08:51.260 to see someone
00:08:53.540 out here
00:08:54.060 essentially pleading.
00:08:55.680 It sounds to me
00:08:56.360 like he's pleading
00:08:57.060 for the rights
00:08:58.680 of the victim,
00:09:00.620 the rights,
00:09:00.820 or excuse me,
00:09:01.180 the rights of the accused
00:09:02.020 saying that he's
00:09:02.680 the real victim
00:09:03.280 or something.
00:09:04.280 Walk me through this.
00:09:05.360 What's happening?
00:09:07.260 Well, incredibly tragic
00:09:08.560 and yeah,
00:09:09.060 to see a mayor
00:09:09.800 like that
00:09:10.520 give that type
00:09:11.500 of response,
00:09:12.480 I mean,
00:09:12.720 it isn't completely
00:09:13.680 ideological.
00:09:14.680 He's just committed
00:09:16.080 to that for some reason.
00:09:17.560 I mean,
00:09:17.740 here you have a situation
00:09:19.000 where an illegal immigrant
00:09:20.380 clearly created
00:09:21.840 the crime,
00:09:23.020 caused the murder,
00:09:24.620 and he says
00:09:25.220 that they're unrelated.
00:09:27.000 No,
00:09:27.660 they're clearly related
00:09:28.740 and I mean,
00:09:30.280 in my town,
00:09:31.060 for example,
00:09:31.880 I have had ICE
00:09:33.480 come and talk to me
00:09:34.480 and talk about
00:09:35.400 the strong correlation
00:09:36.600 between the rapid rise
00:09:38.740 in crime
00:09:39.320 that I'm experiencing
00:09:40.140 in my community
00:09:40.980 to foreign nationals
00:09:42.360 or illegal immigrants.
00:09:43.560 They've documented it.
00:09:44.760 I mean,
00:09:45.000 even in Utah,
00:09:46.200 they're working
00:09:46.600 with well over
00:09:47.240 100,000 to 150,000
00:09:48.520 cases of illegal immigrants
00:09:50.820 in our state
00:09:51.860 and many of which
00:09:53.940 have committed crimes.
00:09:55.920 And so,
00:09:57.120 there clearly
00:09:57.780 is a correlation
00:09:58.560 and for him
00:09:59.740 to say that
00:10:00.760 is just
00:10:02.060 completely ignoring facts,
00:10:04.120 completely ignoring
00:10:04.700 the reality,
00:10:05.400 putting his head
00:10:05.940 in the sand
00:10:06.420 and it is tragic.
00:10:08.600 I mean,
00:10:08.760 we've got to get
00:10:09.580 this issue right.
00:10:11.860 This Biden administration
00:10:12.720 has been
00:10:13.180 completely disaster,
00:10:14.580 just a complete disaster
00:10:15.600 on the border.
00:10:17.120 Everything was working
00:10:18.180 relatively well
00:10:19.540 under President Trump
00:10:20.600 and here we have
00:10:21.680 President Biden
00:10:22.420 and this disgraceful
00:10:24.280 Secretary Mayorkas
00:10:25.560 that is completely
00:10:26.560 refusing to enforce
00:10:28.340 the law.
00:10:30.160 You know,
00:10:30.300 for him to say
00:10:30.780 there is no correlation,
00:10:31.900 I mean,
00:10:32.160 by the very fact
00:10:33.420 of them coming
00:10:33.860 into this country
00:10:34.500 illegally,
00:10:35.000 they've already
00:10:35.640 committed a crime
00:10:36.440 and are we to believe
00:10:37.760 that those that are
00:10:38.440 willing to commit crimes
00:10:39.420 won't maybe
00:10:40.520 commit them again?
00:10:43.640 This is,
00:10:45.200 to me,
00:10:45.920 as a mayor,
00:10:47.100 you've got to be able,
00:10:48.500 the number one duty
00:10:49.260 of government
00:10:49.760 is to protect
00:10:50.840 its citizenry
00:10:51.680 and he
00:10:53.420 is unwilling
00:10:54.880 to even do that
00:10:55.780 because he can't,
00:10:57.120 he doesn't understand
00:10:58.160 reality,
00:10:58.740 he doesn't know
00:10:59.140 what time it is,
00:10:59.860 he doesn't understand
00:11:00.600 the problem
00:11:01.380 if he's going to make
00:11:02.600 that kind of statement.
00:11:04.240 And this is a huge issue
00:11:05.580 that we're seeing
00:11:06.240 writ large across
00:11:07.180 the country.
00:11:07.840 I mean,
00:11:08.040 last night
00:11:08.580 over at Postmillennial
00:11:09.680 we're getting headline
00:11:10.440 after headline,
00:11:11.700 Maryland,
00:11:12.340 Virginia,
00:11:12.960 Louisiana,
00:11:13.460 it feels as though
00:11:15.560 there is a systemic
00:11:16.820 break between
00:11:17.940 the citizens
00:11:18.680 of this country
00:11:19.520 and the government
00:11:21.020 in a place
00:11:23.000 where you would,
00:11:23.680 you would think
00:11:24.140 that typically
00:11:24.800 federal policy
00:11:25.760 doesn't dictate
00:11:27.080 law and order
00:11:27.980 in city by city,
00:11:29.680 town by town,
00:11:30.280 but because of this issue,
00:11:32.040 the nature of the
00:11:32.600 illegal immigration issue,
00:11:33.760 it does seem
00:11:34.640 it's become that way,
00:11:35.580 hasn't it?
00:11:36.840 It has, sadly.
00:11:38.220 I mean,
00:11:38.420 people are just so bent,
00:11:39.720 the progressives
00:11:40.740 and the liberals
00:11:41.240 are so just bent
00:11:43.280 on embracing
00:11:44.720 this ideology
00:11:45.520 at all costs,
00:11:46.940 seemingly,
00:11:47.360 and that's,
00:11:47.800 you know,
00:11:47.960 was part of my speech
00:11:49.740 recently at CPAC.
00:11:51.560 We need leaders
00:11:52.520 in Washington
00:11:53.820 all across the spectrum
00:11:55.840 that are going
00:11:57.260 to fight
00:11:58.280 for everyday Americans
00:11:59.700 and I gave the example
00:12:01.160 of somebody
00:12:02.260 in my community
00:12:03.140 who was imprisoned
00:12:05.220 wrongfully
00:12:06.660 on fabricated charges
00:12:07.960 by a socialistic government
00:12:09.340 down in Venezuela
00:12:10.480 who was imprisoned
00:12:11.220 for almost two years
00:12:12.240 and the Biden,
00:12:13.620 Obama,
00:12:14.020 Obama-Biden administration
00:12:15.980 did absolutely nothing.
00:12:17.340 It wasn't until
00:12:18.160 President Trump
00:12:18.840 came into office
00:12:19.600 that he was willing
00:12:20.380 to fight for
00:12:21.340 and ultimately
00:12:22.200 secure the release
00:12:23.300 of one of my residents.
00:12:25.320 That was a very
00:12:25.880 personal example,
00:12:27.420 but we need that.
00:12:28.200 We need that today.
00:12:28.920 We need leaders
00:12:29.980 that are going to fight
00:12:30.700 for everyday Americans
00:12:31.780 and actually want
00:12:33.600 to represent them
00:12:34.780 and care more
00:12:36.060 about them
00:12:36.820 than their own
00:12:38.060 ideologies
00:12:38.800 and, you know,
00:12:40.220 ingratiating themselves
00:12:41.200 into a culture
00:12:42.460 that this
00:12:44.400 this really perverse
00:12:45.760 culture
00:12:46.740 and this is
00:12:48.340 it's something
00:12:48.800 that's got to stop.
00:12:51.580 Now,
00:12:52.180 you are running
00:12:53.040 for Senate
00:12:54.000 in Utah.
00:12:55.460 You know,
00:12:55.720 why is it that
00:12:56.300 we haven't seen
00:12:57.240 your senator?
00:12:58.280 Well,
00:12:58.420 you've got one senator
00:12:59.240 that I think
00:13:00.000 is doing just fine,
00:13:00.840 but there's another guy
00:13:01.620 who's on the ballot
00:13:02.260 who doesn't seem
00:13:03.160 to be making this
00:13:03.900 as much of a priority
00:13:04.740 as things of Mitt Romney.
00:13:05.680 Well,
00:13:08.180 and that's why
00:13:08.780 I chose to run.
00:13:10.040 You know,
00:13:10.160 almost 10 months ago
00:13:11.000 we came out swinging.
00:13:12.560 We've had a launch video
00:13:14.140 that's been viewed
00:13:14.760 I think about a million
00:13:15.560 and a half times
00:13:16.360 and we pointed out
00:13:17.660 the fact that
00:13:18.780 Mitt Romney ran
00:13:20.060 back in 2018
00:13:21.120 as a mayor.
00:13:22.000 I remember this very clearly
00:13:22.800 ran on a
00:13:24.160 on a platform
00:13:25.040 of
00:13:26.020 balanced budget
00:13:27.400 of ending
00:13:28.460 illegal immigration.
00:13:29.560 He actually claimed
00:13:30.200 he would end
00:13:30.860 illegal immigration
00:13:31.820 in his video
00:13:32.700 back in 2018.
00:13:34.160 Put a
00:13:34.420 stop federal spending
00:13:35.980 and overreach
00:13:36.620 and confirm
00:13:37.280 conservative justices
00:13:38.460 to the court
00:13:39.040 and that just
00:13:40.100 hasn't been his record.
00:13:41.240 We called it out.
00:13:42.560 He started out
00:13:43.160 about 50% favorability
00:13:44.520 when we launched
00:13:45.520 my campaign
00:13:46.620 and then he went
00:13:47.340 down to about 30%
00:13:48.400 by the time
00:13:49.520 late September
00:13:50.220 came around
00:13:50.760 and he announced
00:13:51.300 he wasn't going
00:13:51.840 to be seeking re-election.
00:13:53.080 So,
00:13:53.760 we've been leading out
00:13:55.000 in this race
00:13:56.120 all around the state.
00:13:58.520 People are ready.
00:13:59.640 They're ready
00:14:00.220 for two true conservatives
00:14:01.920 to represent them
00:14:02.960 in the state of Utah
00:14:03.680 and that's what
00:14:04.220 I've been telling folks.
00:14:04.980 If you want another
00:14:05.520 Mike Lee,
00:14:06.360 I'm your guy.
00:14:08.080 That's what this is about.
00:14:09.320 We have this opportunity.
00:14:10.620 I think it's once
00:14:11.360 in a generation
00:14:11.960 opportunity
00:14:12.560 to get somebody
00:14:13.960 else in there
00:14:14.700 that is going
00:14:15.760 to be a true
00:14:16.380 constitutional conservative
00:14:17.520 and be able
00:14:18.580 to advance
00:14:19.100 an America First
00:14:19.840 agenda
00:14:20.300 rather than
00:14:21.400 a Mitt Romney
00:14:22.420 or a Mitt Romney
00:14:23.400 2.0
00:14:24.020 if you will.
00:14:24.960 That just continues
00:14:25.740 to negate
00:14:26.760 many of the things
00:14:28.400 that Senator Lee
00:14:29.100 is doing
00:14:29.660 and just acting
00:14:30.680 counter to that
00:14:31.820 on the main issues,
00:14:33.120 on the main votes.
00:14:35.260 Now,
00:14:35.820 when it comes
00:14:36.340 to the presidential
00:14:37.240 primary,
00:14:38.120 we saw the results,
00:14:39.040 huge results
00:14:39.600 for President Trump
00:14:40.300 in Michigan
00:14:41.800 last night,
00:14:42.740 a really underperformance
00:14:44.360 for President Biden
00:14:45.480 that was going in.
00:14:46.740 However,
00:14:47.000 Nikki Haley
00:14:47.640 still on the ballot.
00:14:49.140 What is your take
00:14:49.820 on the Republican
00:14:51.040 side of this?
00:14:53.360 Well,
00:14:54.000 I came out
00:14:54.720 and endorsed
00:14:55.140 President Trump
00:14:55.840 last summer
00:14:56.420 almost immediately
00:14:57.040 after I announced
00:14:57.860 my candidacy.
00:14:58.720 for all the reasons
00:14:59.980 some of which
00:15:00.560 I just articulated
00:15:01.280 they're very personal
00:15:02.040 to me.
00:15:03.160 Just the tax cuts
00:15:04.200 of 2017,
00:15:05.700 less than $2
00:15:06.460 gallon gasoline,
00:15:07.880 great foreign policy,
00:15:09.400 we didn't have
00:15:09.880 these wars
00:15:10.340 and skirmishes
00:15:11.020 and just
00:15:13.180 these conservative
00:15:14.280 justices
00:15:15.400 that he was able
00:15:16.280 to nominate
00:15:16.880 to the Supreme Court
00:15:18.140 has been very,
00:15:19.020 very transformational.
00:15:20.120 So,
00:15:20.760 I'm fully behind
00:15:21.940 President Trump.
00:15:23.060 I think it's time
00:15:24.100 well beyond time
00:15:24.860 that we go ahead
00:15:25.340 and consolidate,
00:15:26.440 get everybody
00:15:26.980 behind him.
00:15:28.560 Not only were
00:15:29.320 his policies
00:15:29.800 fantastic
00:15:30.380 and he's proven,
00:15:31.280 demonstrated that way,
00:15:32.520 but we have
00:15:33.720 his polling
00:15:34.580 that is so fantastic
00:15:35.700 across the country
00:15:36.780 and with all due
00:15:38.040 respect to Nikki Haley,
00:15:39.720 I mean,
00:15:40.180 here's somebody
00:15:40.620 who can't even
00:15:41.440 win their home state
00:15:42.600 in a primary
00:15:44.260 and if I couldn't
00:15:44.940 even do that here
00:15:45.680 and win my own community,
00:15:46.700 I think I've got
00:15:47.460 no business
00:15:48.160 continuing on
00:15:49.740 in this race.
00:15:50.900 Let's get behind
00:15:51.700 President Trump
00:15:53.100 and I think
00:15:53.580 this is something
00:15:55.780 a little bit,
00:15:56.540 it speaks to
00:15:57.760 something a little
00:15:58.180 larger.
00:15:59.320 It's not just,
00:16:00.820 yes,
00:16:01.200 President Trump,
00:16:01.860 we want to support
00:16:02.460 him,
00:16:02.760 the America First
00:16:03.360 agenda,
00:16:04.300 but I think
00:16:05.020 the reason why
00:16:06.600 Nikki Haley
00:16:07.140 is still out there
00:16:08.120 is because
00:16:08.560 there's this wing,
00:16:10.400 the Bush-era wing
00:16:12.180 of the Republican
00:16:12.760 Party,
00:16:13.260 if you will,
00:16:13.980 that just doesn't
00:16:14.940 want to let go.
00:16:16.000 The establishment
00:16:16.680 is scared
00:16:17.440 and they want
00:16:19.600 continued war.
00:16:22.560 They want
00:16:23.340 what she's
00:16:24.740 advocating for
00:16:25.500 and has always
00:16:25.960 advocated for
00:16:26.780 in terms of
00:16:27.380 globalism
00:16:28.040 and being
00:16:29.180 this neocon
00:16:30.420 that wants
00:16:31.080 to support
00:16:31.740 endless war
00:16:33.280 and we're seeing
00:16:34.740 more and more
00:16:35.220 Republicans that are
00:16:36.040 saying,
00:16:36.340 no,
00:16:36.580 enough of this,
00:16:37.660 we need to put
00:16:38.240 America first,
00:16:39.500 other countries
00:16:40.220 in the world
00:16:40.620 need to be able
00:16:41.160 to stand up
00:16:41.780 and pay for
00:16:42.360 their fair share
00:16:43.020 and that's
00:16:43.340 something that
00:16:43.680 President Trump
00:16:44.240 did very well
00:16:45.020 with respect to
00:16:45.900 our NATO
00:16:46.220 partners and allies
00:16:47.140 and it's time
00:16:49.140 has come.
00:16:49.900 We need to get
00:16:50.460 behind President Trump,
00:16:51.480 let's go ahead
00:16:52.200 and put our
00:16:53.280 resources there
00:16:54.120 so that we can
00:16:55.160 beat Joe Biden.
00:16:56.660 It would just
00:16:57.400 be disastrous
00:16:58.360 to this country
00:16:59.220 if we had
00:17:00.580 four more years
00:17:01.420 of a Biden
00:17:01.920 presidency
00:17:02.520 and that's another
00:17:03.160 reason why I'm
00:17:03.760 stepping up and
00:17:04.280 running because
00:17:04.780 not just do we
00:17:05.560 need President
00:17:06.000 Trump back in
00:17:06.580 the White House
00:17:07.100 but we need
00:17:08.440 to have supporters
00:17:09.380 all the way
00:17:10.160 up and down
00:17:10.740 in the Senate
00:17:12.360 and in Congress,
00:17:14.160 various states.
00:17:15.340 We've got to
00:17:15.840 have people there
00:17:16.600 that are going
00:17:17.260 to advance
00:17:17.860 this America
00:17:18.440 first agenda
00:17:19.100 to get this
00:17:19.800 country back
00:17:20.320 on track
00:17:20.760 because the
00:17:21.720 establishment
00:17:22.300 has truly
00:17:23.400 taken us
00:17:23.980 to the brink.
00:17:25.860 It's really
00:17:26.440 quite interesting
00:17:27.040 you say that
00:17:27.480 too because
00:17:27.900 we've got
00:17:28.200 about a minute
00:17:28.700 until break.
00:17:29.260 I'd love to
00:17:30.180 hold you over
00:17:30.580 if you can
00:17:30.980 but we've
00:17:32.760 got a situation
00:17:33.360 now where
00:17:33.940 in this election
00:17:34.580 folks can
00:17:35.700 really look
00:17:36.780 at the two
00:17:37.780 candidates
00:17:38.280 for president
00:17:39.340 and say
00:17:40.360 we had this
00:17:41.540 guy as president,
00:17:42.660 we have this
00:17:43.100 guy as president
00:17:43.700 now and it's
00:17:44.520 simple.
00:17:45.280 Do we want
00:17:46.100 the policies
00:17:46.900 of four years
00:17:47.980 ago or do
00:17:48.760 we want
00:17:49.160 the policies
00:17:49.860 of today?
00:17:51.180 And I think
00:17:51.660 that for a lot
00:17:52.440 of people
00:17:52.820 and we're
00:17:53.120 certainly
00:17:53.440 seeing this
00:17:54.080 in these
00:17:55.060 results,
00:17:55.560 we're seeing
00:17:55.840 it in the
00:17:56.140 numbers,
00:17:56.640 that when
00:17:57.020 people compare
00:17:57.880 results,
00:17:59.260 when they compare
00:17:59.840 record to record,
00:18:01.880 there's no
00:18:02.400 question.
00:18:03.280 President Trump
00:18:04.100 comes on top.
00:18:05.240 Independents are
00:18:05.840 swinging that way.
00:18:06.540 By the way,
00:18:06.940 huge new pullout
00:18:08.100 from Echelon
00:18:08.620 Insights saying
00:18:09.480 that president
00:18:09.860 Trump is up
00:18:10.540 in every single
00:18:11.740 one of the
00:18:12.460 eight swing states
00:18:13.740 across the country.
00:18:14.820 Coming back next,
00:18:15.900 our continuing
00:18:16.560 interview.
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00:18:28.820 Jack,
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00:19:42.440 Continue our interview
00:19:43.500 with Mayor Transsex.
00:19:45.020 So, Mayor, when you're
00:19:45.880 out there crisscrossing
00:19:46.960 the state, when you're
00:19:47.600 going around Utah,
00:19:49.140 when you're speaking
00:19:49.680 to Utahns, right?
00:19:51.140 Would you say
00:19:51.660 Utahns?
00:19:53.220 Utahns, yeah.
00:19:54.860 Utahns, Utahns.
00:19:55.900 Okay, I'll get there.
00:19:57.200 I'll get there.
00:19:57.640 I'm an East Coast guy.
00:19:58.460 You'll have to forgive me.
00:19:59.540 But when you're talking
00:20:00.480 to them, I understand
00:20:01.300 Nikki Haley is in
00:20:02.380 the state today.
00:20:03.520 Does her program
00:20:05.000 really resonate with
00:20:06.160 the issues and concerns
00:20:07.400 that you hear from
00:20:09.200 just local people
00:20:10.300 as you're going
00:20:10.760 around the state?
00:20:12.660 No, not at all.
00:20:13.940 I mean, I'm not hearing
00:20:15.260 a huge support for
00:20:16.720 the war effort in Ukraine,
00:20:18.140 this endless war,
00:20:19.400 globalism,
00:20:20.520 the neoconstance
00:20:21.600 that she has taken.
00:20:23.020 It isn't,
00:20:23.900 that is not what's
00:20:25.040 at the forefront
00:20:25.940 of Utahns' minds
00:20:27.760 and concerns.
00:20:28.960 I've done probably
00:20:30.080 60 or 70 town halls
00:20:31.460 now across the state,
00:20:32.900 all up and down.
00:20:35.040 Talk to so many
00:20:35.920 people and they're
00:20:37.000 concerned about the border.
00:20:38.160 I mean, what we were
00:20:38.660 just talking about
00:20:39.460 and its effects.
00:20:41.060 They're concerned
00:20:41.780 about the budget.
00:20:43.300 I mean, it is just,
00:20:44.580 I have said it's
00:20:45.460 the height of immorality
00:20:46.580 to have placed
00:20:47.660 34, almost $35 trillion
00:20:49.660 now in a deficit
00:20:51.680 on my kids
00:20:53.660 and on successive kids,
00:20:55.460 on successive generations,
00:20:56.900 you know, on their heads.
00:20:58.360 And that is something
00:21:00.520 that I think is at top
00:21:01.660 of mind for Utahns
00:21:03.560 as we go around
00:21:04.200 and talk about this.
00:21:05.480 The regulatory state
00:21:07.040 that has become
00:21:08.140 so burdensome
00:21:09.440 is something that
00:21:10.880 I hear a lot
00:21:11.920 from business owners
00:21:13.200 that say,
00:21:14.220 hey, you've heard
00:21:15.420 of too big to fail.
00:21:16.900 What about too small
00:21:17.960 to succeed?
00:21:19.180 I can't afford
00:21:20.080 the army of accountants
00:21:21.420 and attorneys
00:21:21.980 to go ahead
00:21:23.920 and come into compliance
00:21:24.900 with all the nonsense
00:21:25.880 that's thrown at us
00:21:26.820 from D.C.
00:21:27.420 And so that's where
00:21:28.980 I think it's very important
00:21:30.060 to have somebody
00:21:30.900 with my experience
00:21:31.840 and background
00:21:32.380 at the local level
00:21:33.820 that understands federalism,
00:21:36.260 that understands
00:21:36.960 the proper role
00:21:37.660 of government.
00:21:38.740 They're in D.C.
00:21:40.820 representing Utahns.
00:21:42.600 We're going to go after it.
00:21:43.940 I said,
00:21:44.300 I'm going to take
00:21:44.860 a chainsaw to regulation.
00:21:46.620 We've got to get
00:21:47.020 this RAINS Act
00:21:47.740 across the finish line.
00:21:49.400 We've got to get
00:21:50.680 a balanced budget.
00:21:51.700 We have to get
00:21:52.460 our house in order there.
00:21:55.020 And of course,
00:21:55.560 we have to secure the border.
00:21:56.740 This is just something
00:21:57.740 that's out of control.
00:21:59.740 The federal government
00:22:00.440 has done so much more
00:22:01.660 than our founders
00:22:02.200 ever envisioned
00:22:02.920 in Article I,
00:22:03.760 Section 8 of the Constitution.
00:22:05.460 Those powers,
00:22:06.240 those delineated powers
00:22:07.080 that we the people
00:22:07.840 have given
00:22:08.320 the federal government,
00:22:09.600 they're doing so much
00:22:10.360 more than that
00:22:11.100 that they're failing
00:22:12.120 to do the few things
00:22:13.380 that are enumerated there,
00:22:15.020 namely immigration.
00:22:16.520 And we're seeing that happen.
00:22:17.480 It's not rocket science.
00:22:18.680 Border wall,
00:22:19.740 let's go ahead
00:22:20.580 and return back
00:22:21.660 to the remain in Mexico
00:22:22.600 policy
00:22:23.720 and e-verify
00:22:25.500 and other just
00:22:26.260 simple measures like
00:22:27.260 that I think
00:22:28.200 would take care
00:22:29.020 of this problem
00:22:29.640 almost immediately.
00:22:32.240 Now, as you mentioned,
00:22:33.980 given that you are
00:22:35.280 a mayor in Utah,
00:22:36.720 you've mentioned
00:22:37.140 you've had some
00:22:37.620 discussions with ICE.
00:22:39.380 Can you walk us
00:22:39.920 through some more
00:22:40.620 about how this
00:22:41.420 massive influx
00:22:42.580 of people,
00:22:43.280 7 million across
00:22:44.620 the country
00:22:45.620 since Biden took office,
00:22:47.080 has affected your town,
00:22:48.040 your area there?
00:22:49.500 Oh, yeah.
00:22:49.960 And it could be
00:22:50.320 upwards 8, 9 million
00:22:51.680 or more.
00:22:52.560 You know,
00:22:52.840 the population
00:22:53.440 of Utah
00:22:53.860 is 3.2 million people.
00:22:56.300 And to put it
00:22:56.680 into perspective,
00:22:57.260 I say,
00:22:57.640 guys,
00:22:58.400 we've had almost
00:22:59.080 three times
00:22:59.660 the population
00:23:00.280 of our state
00:23:01.240 come across the border
00:23:02.880 illegally
00:23:03.480 and invade our country
00:23:05.260 under President Biden.
00:23:07.240 This is absolutely
00:23:08.580 ridiculous.
00:23:09.680 It's unsustainable.
00:23:11.000 It is an invasion.
00:23:12.360 And those types
00:23:13.480 of policies,
00:23:14.180 again,
00:23:14.500 just border wall,
00:23:15.720 remain in Mexico,
00:23:17.400 and really enforcing
00:23:19.340 e-verify.
00:23:20.140 And sadly,
00:23:21.420 you know,
00:23:21.720 our country,
00:23:22.820 or my state,
00:23:23.760 rather,
00:23:24.460 was designated
00:23:25.520 by ICE
00:23:26.180 as a sanctuary state
00:23:27.320 back in May.
00:23:28.260 They put out a memo
00:23:28.960 and said,
00:23:29.520 you know,
00:23:29.920 de facto,
00:23:30.840 because of your policies
00:23:32.280 of giving driver's licenses
00:23:35.200 to illegals
00:23:35.960 and state tuition,
00:23:37.220 they gutted the
00:23:37.920 e-verify provision
00:23:38.840 in our state
00:23:39.420 that,
00:23:40.560 and the jails
00:23:42.120 are not cooperating
00:23:43.160 currently
00:23:43.660 with ICE
00:23:46.180 in terms of
00:23:46.740 allowing vets there
00:23:47.640 to have them
00:23:49.360 detained
00:23:49.720 more than 72 hours.
00:23:51.440 What used to take
00:23:52.200 two to three months
00:23:53.040 to adjudicate
00:23:53.760 all these asylum claims
00:23:55.120 and cases
00:23:55.620 is now taking
00:23:56.440 two,
00:23:56.880 three,
00:23:57.720 four years.
00:23:59.360 And so,
00:24:00.020 we have
00:24:00.480 a huge problem
00:24:01.780 in this country
00:24:03.340 and also
00:24:03.960 in our own state.
00:24:08.360 It's really amazing
00:24:09.400 to me,
00:24:09.720 especially
00:24:10.020 because,
00:24:10.960 you know,
00:24:11.200 you have situations
00:24:11.960 where we look
00:24:13.560 at the case
00:24:14.060 as in Athens,
00:24:15.680 Georgia,
00:24:16.080 where this person
00:24:16.940 had been
00:24:18.040 on the radar
00:24:19.400 of law enforcement,
00:24:20.620 actually had,
00:24:21.460 basically,
00:24:21.780 it wasn't even
00:24:22.240 that he was slipped
00:24:22.920 through.
00:24:23.320 I saw some people
00:24:23.800 saying in the media
00:24:24.460 that he slipped
00:24:25.060 through the fingers
00:24:26.060 of law enforcement.
00:24:26.500 He didn't slip
00:24:26.960 through anyone's fingers.
00:24:28.240 He was arrested.
00:24:29.620 He was arrested
00:24:30.280 and then he was let go
00:24:31.400 even though we knew
00:24:32.740 that ICE
00:24:33.260 was working on this.
00:24:35.560 So,
00:24:35.840 has this ever come up
00:24:36.660 when you're mayor
00:24:37.180 that ICE comes to you
00:24:38.140 and says,
00:24:38.940 look,
00:24:39.180 we need to put
00:24:39.580 this guy on a detainer.
00:24:40.800 This guy's on our watch list.
00:24:43.700 This is someone
00:24:44.120 that we need to get to.
00:24:45.720 Why does it seem
00:24:46.600 like there are
00:24:46.980 some jurisdictions
00:24:47.620 that don't want
00:24:49.380 to work with ICE,
00:24:51.240 don't want to comply,
00:24:52.460 et cetera?
00:24:53.100 I look at this
00:24:55.300 and I say,
00:24:55.680 boy,
00:24:55.920 aren't these the same
00:24:56.580 types of federal
00:24:57.600 obstruction charges
00:24:58.540 that they're trying
00:24:59.220 to bring President Trump
00:25:00.620 up on?
00:25:01.960 Yeah,
00:25:02.160 I mean,
00:25:02.340 I was shocked
00:25:02.840 when ICE,
00:25:03.420 for example,
00:25:03.940 came and said,
00:25:04.820 Utah's not doing enough.
00:25:06.200 I mean,
00:25:06.400 that we're to the left
00:25:07.340 of ICE.
00:25:08.100 I mean,
00:25:08.280 when ICE is asking
00:25:09.020 us to do more,
00:25:10.320 why can't we be
00:25:11.340 like Texas?
00:25:12.400 And, you know,
00:25:13.120 Governor Abbott
00:25:14.080 down there
00:25:14.640 and the Attorney General
00:25:15.700 Ken Paxton
00:25:16.360 that have really
00:25:17.220 taken bold stances.
00:25:19.260 We have to be.
00:25:20.480 I mean,
00:25:20.680 our governor
00:25:21.560 indicated,
00:25:22.040 put out a memo
00:25:22.540 that we can't be
00:25:23.420 the backstop
00:25:23.980 to a failed
00:25:24.500 federal immigration policy.
00:25:25.720 No,
00:25:25.900 we have to be.
00:25:27.260 If the federal government
00:25:27.940 is going to fail here,
00:25:28.940 our ultimate responsibility,
00:25:31.380 government,
00:25:32.040 that is,
00:25:32.680 is to protect
00:25:33.440 its citizenry.
00:25:34.620 That's the number
00:25:35.080 one responsibility
00:25:35.860 and we have to be able
00:25:37.380 to step up
00:25:37.820 and do this.
00:25:39.820 You know,
00:25:40.040 sadly,
00:25:40.880 the process
00:25:41.940 is very much broken.
00:25:43.380 I know that
00:25:43.840 for any of our jails
00:25:45.000 and county sheriffs
00:25:46.240 to cooperate
00:25:47.300 with ICE,
00:25:48.120 they have a 700 page
00:25:49.440 plus agreement.
00:25:50.460 It's very onerous.
00:25:51.660 Congress sets those laws.
00:25:53.340 I want to get back there
00:25:54.340 and change that
00:25:55.100 because I think
00:25:55.560 it's absurd
00:25:56.180 that if we want
00:25:57.560 to put a detainer
00:25:58.400 on somebody,
00:25:58.960 more than 72 hours,
00:26:00.800 they have to have
00:26:01.580 special privileges
00:26:02.440 like have their own
00:26:03.760 barbershop
00:26:04.580 and special shampoo.
00:26:07.020 You know,
00:26:07.160 the state government
00:26:07.980 temporarily can step up
00:26:09.520 and say,
00:26:10.440 hey,
00:26:10.560 look,
00:26:10.960 we're going to shield
00:26:11.940 and take all the onus
00:26:14.940 and the burden
00:26:15.420 off the county sheriffs
00:26:16.480 and the county jails.
00:26:17.540 We're going to help
00:26:18.440 shield them from litigation
00:26:19.660 from the ACLU
00:26:20.800 and all the other nonsense
00:26:21.880 that some of these organizations
00:26:23.940 try to put up
00:26:26.480 that makes it more difficult
00:26:28.080 to work with ICE.
00:26:29.420 But yeah,
00:26:29.880 as of right now
00:26:30.640 in the state of Utah,
00:26:32.260 even if ICE
00:26:34.120 has information
00:26:34.860 that these are
00:26:35.540 MS-13 gang members
00:26:36.920 or if they have
00:26:38.040 committed serious crime
00:26:39.720 in the countries
00:26:40.240 of their origin,
00:26:41.680 they're unable
00:26:42.200 to detain them
00:26:42.880 longer than 72 hours.
00:26:44.240 Only if they've committed
00:26:45.240 a crime here
00:26:46.080 in the state
00:26:46.820 can they then be held
00:26:48.200 and sadly,
00:26:49.300 that's too little too late.
00:26:50.400 I mean,
00:26:50.740 the thing that really
00:26:51.540 hit home to me
00:26:53.480 was when the ICE director
00:26:55.080 said,
00:26:55.540 Trent,
00:26:55.900 right now,
00:26:57.260 on average,
00:26:58.000 every day,
00:26:59.000 we are deporting
00:27:00.380 about two people
00:27:01.620 that have committed
00:27:02.880 sexual assault
00:27:03.620 in the state of Utah.
00:27:05.180 They've committed,
00:27:05.840 and those are the crimes
00:27:06.420 we know about.
00:27:07.020 They've committed a crime,
00:27:07.960 they're doing their time
00:27:08.880 at a county jail
00:27:09.740 because they can now
00:27:11.160 be treated as part
00:27:11.940 of the general jail population
00:27:13.240 and then they're
00:27:14.560 being deported.
00:27:16.440 And it's just,
00:27:18.700 it's crazy
00:27:19.640 that we are
00:27:21.260 dealing with this.
00:27:23.440 We've got to get
00:27:24.420 a hold on this.
00:27:25.000 We have to protect
00:27:25.560 our citizens
00:27:26.040 and that's something
00:27:27.700 that I plan on doing
00:27:29.780 day one
00:27:30.380 back in the U.S. Senate
00:27:31.460 and working with
00:27:32.060 other great senators
00:27:32.800 to advance
00:27:34.120 this type of
00:27:35.800 just common sense
00:27:36.860 reform and legislation.
00:27:40.020 You know,
00:27:40.580 when you're out there
00:27:41.180 talking to folks,
00:27:42.040 I have to imagine
00:27:42.800 that, you know,
00:27:43.880 so Nikki Haley
00:27:44.480 is of course
00:27:45.300 discussing how
00:27:46.160 important it is
00:27:46.960 that we, you know,
00:27:47.840 we fight for
00:27:48.660 the borders of Ukraine
00:27:50.420 thousands of miles
00:27:51.480 away from the United States
00:27:52.820 that we,
00:27:54.140 how important it is
00:27:54.960 that we get involved
00:27:55.700 in war after war,
00:27:57.280 case after case.
00:27:58.540 But it seems to me
00:27:59.900 that this election
00:28:00.920 and we see this
00:28:01.980 in these numbers
00:28:02.720 for President Trump
00:28:03.800 but also the numbers
00:28:04.660 just where the voters
00:28:05.440 are on the issues.
00:28:07.480 Number one,
00:28:08.220 we're seeing more
00:28:09.120 and more now
00:28:09.860 the number one issue
00:28:11.360 of the 2024 election
00:28:12.800 is shaping out
00:28:13.980 at least nationwide
00:28:14.820 to be immigration
00:28:16.020 number two,
00:28:17.220 inflation and economy.
00:28:19.160 Yeah,
00:28:19.680 and that's what
00:28:20.240 I'm seeing here
00:28:20.740 in Utah.
00:28:21.800 That's,
00:28:22.420 it comports exactly
00:28:23.500 with that.
00:28:23.860 I mean,
00:28:23.980 that's,
00:28:24.440 this border issue
00:28:25.080 is really,
00:28:25.820 really a big deal.
00:28:27.300 That's what's
00:28:27.900 at top of mind
00:28:28.540 for folks.
00:28:29.220 We have to be able
00:28:30.040 to secure our border
00:28:30.920 100%.
00:28:31.780 We need to care
00:28:32.480 more about
00:28:33.120 our own borders
00:28:34.660 than those of Ukraine
00:28:36.300 and other countries.
00:28:37.260 I mean,
00:28:37.560 that,
00:28:38.200 that's what,
00:28:39.420 that's what Utahns want.
00:28:40.420 That's what Americans want
00:28:41.480 is to go ahead
00:28:42.060 and put America first.
00:28:45.080 And,
00:28:45.520 and then with respect
00:28:46.900 to the budget
00:28:48.020 and just this
00:28:48.840 out of control
00:28:49.960 deficit spending.
00:28:52.840 That's,
00:28:53.520 those are the top
00:28:54.480 two issues
00:28:55.000 that I'm hearing
00:28:55.640 as I'm going up
00:28:56.280 and down the state.
00:28:56.920 I've got a record
00:28:58.740 of being able
00:28:59.400 to do that,
00:29:00.060 to push back
00:29:00.580 against the establishment,
00:29:01.780 take that on.
00:29:03.180 That's why my candidacy,
00:29:04.380 we've been endorsed
00:29:04.840 by so many people.
00:29:06.700 And we're,
00:29:07.760 we've got a coalition,
00:29:08.620 a natural coalition already
00:29:09.740 of great America first.
00:29:11.640 I think senators
00:29:12.640 and people that could be,
00:29:14.920 that I expect to be elected
00:29:16.820 and be in the U.S. Senate
00:29:18.280 that I can work with,
00:29:19.400 with President Trump
00:29:20.600 to be able to,
00:29:22.020 to put forth
00:29:23.180 an America first agenda
00:29:24.600 that will take care
00:29:25.400 of this border day one.
00:29:26.520 And we'll finally,
00:29:28.280 finally take care
00:29:29.200 of our,
00:29:30.160 our financial house
00:29:31.640 and put us on a path
00:29:33.080 to a balanced budget.
00:29:34.200 I absolutely believe that.
00:29:37.600 Seems very simple.
00:29:39.280 Look,
00:29:39.480 when one side is going
00:29:40.600 so extreme to the left,
00:29:43.020 you don't need
00:29:43.800 to go to the right.
00:29:44.660 You can just go
00:29:45.360 right down the middle
00:29:46.780 and say,
00:29:47.340 we're going to restore
00:29:48.260 common sense in government
00:29:51.060 and a return to normalcy.
00:29:53.560 Mayor Trent Staggs,
00:29:54.380 you are running
00:29:55.020 for the Senate
00:29:56.360 in the great state
00:29:57.180 of Utah,
00:29:58.240 which by the way,
00:29:59.040 I mentioned our sponsor
00:30:00.500 today,
00:30:00.840 my Patriot Supply,
00:30:01.580 they are headquartered
00:30:02.560 in the great state
00:30:03.140 of Utah.
00:30:03.540 I got to visit there
00:30:04.220 and had a wonderful time
00:30:05.740 driving an armored tank around.
00:30:07.140 That's a long story
00:30:07.720 with my wife.
00:30:08.700 Where can people go
00:30:09.260 to follow you?
00:30:11.360 At Mayor Staggs
00:30:12.660 and at TrentStaggs.com,
00:30:14.980 S-T-A-G-G-S
00:30:16.240 to learn more
00:30:16.880 about the candidacy
00:30:18.420 and the campaign
00:30:19.160 and how we can put
00:30:19.900 another America first
00:30:20.780 true conservative
00:30:21.920 in the Senate
00:30:22.600 representing the great
00:30:23.380 state of Utah.
00:30:24.760 By the way,
00:30:25.420 I got to say,
00:30:25.780 you probably have
00:30:26.640 the best backdrop
00:30:27.560 of any guest
00:30:28.540 that we've ever had
00:30:29.660 on the show.
00:30:30.340 Look at that,
00:30:31.000 folks.
00:30:31.340 Gorgeous.
00:30:32.240 Absolutely gorgeous mountains.
00:30:34.080 This is our country.
00:30:35.980 We love it.
00:30:36.540 Don't we have
00:30:37.540 one of the most
00:30:37.980 beautiful lands
00:30:38.840 blessed by God.
00:30:40.280 We need people
00:30:41.020 who can maintain it
00:30:42.240 and steward it forward.
00:30:44.480 Stay tuned.
00:30:44.920 Be right back.
00:30:48.620 Where is Jack?
00:30:50.980 Where is Jack?
00:30:53.300 Where is he?
00:30:54.560 Jack, I want to see you.
00:30:58.220 Great job, Jack.
00:30:59.720 Thank you.
00:31:00.460 What a job you do.
00:31:01.900 You know,
00:31:02.160 we have an incredible thing.
00:31:03.280 We're always talking
00:31:03.880 about the fake news
00:31:04.880 and the bad,
00:31:05.600 but we have guys
00:31:06.620 and these are the guys
00:31:07.960 who should be getting
00:31:08.580 Pulisic.
00:31:11.460 All right,
00:31:12.100 Jack Posobiec back
00:31:12.880 live here,
00:31:13.580 Human Events Daily.
00:31:14.540 We have the great
00:31:15.860 Roger Stone
00:31:17.460 political strategist
00:31:18.660 to the stars
00:31:19.480 here with us
00:31:20.420 on Human Events Daily
00:31:21.640 once more.
00:31:22.420 Roger,
00:31:22.640 how are you today?
00:31:24.280 Jack,
00:31:24.760 it's great to be back
00:31:25.840 with you.
00:31:26.620 You know,
00:31:26.820 many, many people
00:31:27.580 don't understand
00:31:28.540 the historical significance
00:31:30.300 of human events.
00:31:32.500 This was
00:31:33.360 the original,
00:31:34.860 most seminal,
00:31:36.160 most important
00:31:37.120 fundamental
00:31:38.340 conservative
00:31:39.100 publication
00:31:39.920 and news outlet
00:31:40.940 in the country
00:31:42.260 beginning in the late 60s
00:31:44.340 all the way
00:31:44.960 to today.
00:31:45.840 So,
00:31:46.160 for me,
00:31:46.840 it's a particularly
00:31:47.560 great honor
00:31:48.300 to be with you.
00:31:50.140 Well,
00:31:50.620 I appreciate that,
00:31:51.220 Roger,
00:31:51.460 and we are,
00:31:52.040 of course,
00:31:52.380 endeavoring
00:31:53.100 to restore
00:31:54.400 human events
00:31:55.360 to its rightful place
00:31:56.460 in the pantheon
00:31:57.540 of the conservative
00:31:58.580 media ecosystem.
00:32:00.580 And as such,
00:32:01.800 I would love to get
00:32:02.600 your analysis
00:32:03.180 on some of these
00:32:04.180 recent polls
00:32:04.840 that have come out
00:32:05.740 not only showing
00:32:07.000 President Trump up,
00:32:08.740 I should say,
00:32:09.540 up in every single
00:32:10.520 one of the swing states,
00:32:11.440 but also his performance
00:32:13.120 against Nikki Haley
00:32:14.360 and really
00:32:14.940 one of the lesser-told stories,
00:32:17.440 the underperformance
00:32:18.460 of Joe Biden
00:32:19.400 last night in Michigan.
00:32:21.440 Yeah,
00:32:21.920 it's really quite
00:32:22.620 extraordinary,
00:32:23.460 Jack.
00:32:23.720 It's actually,
00:32:24.520 I would say,
00:32:25.320 counterintuitive.
00:32:26.720 I mean,
00:32:26.940 normally,
00:32:27.980 when a candidate
00:32:28.780 for federal
00:32:29.700 office
00:32:30.980 is indicted
00:32:31.960 by an either state
00:32:33.380 or federal charges,
00:32:35.180 their money collapses,
00:32:36.860 their voter base
00:32:37.720 collapses,
00:32:38.280 and so on.
00:32:39.560 In this case,
00:32:41.040 this tsunami
00:32:42.600 of lawfare
00:32:43.540 against Donald Trump
00:32:44.720 in New York,
00:32:45.920 in Florida,
00:32:47.280 in Washington,
00:32:48.060 D.C.,
00:32:48.540 in Folsom County,
00:32:49.520 Georgia,
00:32:50.360 has energized
00:32:51.480 Trump's base,
00:32:53.160 has expanded
00:32:54.580 his vote share,
00:32:56.600 has built
00:32:57.300 intensity
00:32:58.040 into his
00:32:59.040 voter group,
00:33:00.340 and has really
00:33:01.920 catapulted him
00:33:03.060 ahead of the
00:33:04.320 hapless
00:33:05.020 Joe Biden
00:33:06.140 and certainly
00:33:07.660 galvanized
00:33:09.300 his strength
00:33:09.900 within the new
00:33:10.980 Republican Party
00:33:12.120 over Nikki Haley.
00:33:14.480 So,
00:33:14.780 I can honestly say
00:33:16.160 that it's not
00:33:16.580 And, Roger,
00:33:16.680 if I can just add,
00:33:18.340 if I could just interject
00:33:19.240 very quickly,
00:33:20.520 we're showing a poll
00:33:21.540 right now
00:33:21.960 that came out
00:33:22.620 backing up
00:33:23.180 exactly what you're saying,
00:33:24.380 not only that it
00:33:25.780 catapulted him
00:33:26.780 beyond that,
00:33:27.740 but in fact,
00:33:28.780 this is out of
00:33:29.460 Harvard,
00:33:29.820 Harris last week,
00:33:31.360 if President Trump
00:33:32.360 is convicted
00:33:33.340 and it's going
00:33:34.460 through case by case,
00:33:35.960 they would still,
00:33:37.080 the American people,
00:33:37.860 it's a national poll,
00:33:38.820 would still vote
00:33:40.060 to put him in office
00:33:40.960 over Joe Biden.
00:33:42.880 Yeah,
00:33:43.120 I think this is
00:33:43.580 very significant,
00:33:44.600 Jack.
00:33:44.940 Harvard Harris
00:33:45.760 is run by
00:33:46.900 Mark Penn.
00:33:48.200 Mark Penn is
00:33:48.940 not a Trump supporter,
00:33:50.340 he's not a conservative,
00:33:51.620 in fact,
00:33:51.960 I believe he's a Democrat,
00:33:53.960 he's one of the most
00:33:54.980 respected survey
00:33:56.060 researchers
00:33:56.700 in the country,
00:33:57.720 he is not biased,
00:34:00.480 he's not partisan,
00:34:01.600 he just tells you
00:34:02.520 what the numbers
00:34:03.240 really show,
00:34:04.760 and this is the first
00:34:06.180 major poll
00:34:07.020 that I've seen
00:34:08.000 where it's absolutely
00:34:09.400 clear that the
00:34:10.160 American people
00:34:10.820 get it,
00:34:11.420 in other words,
00:34:12.020 even if convicted
00:34:13.260 in this multitude
00:34:15.260 of totally
00:34:17.000 fabricated
00:34:18.200 trials,
00:34:19.460 fabricated charges,
00:34:20.960 Trump still wins,
00:34:22.420 this is very,
00:34:23.600 very good news
00:34:25.120 indeed,
00:34:25.540 because it's
00:34:26.800 very clear
00:34:27.600 to the deep state
00:34:28.600 actors now
00:34:29.540 that throwing
00:34:31.040 Nikki Haley
00:34:32.320 up against him
00:34:33.120 has not worked,
00:34:35.180 that propping up
00:34:36.580 Ron DeSantis
00:34:37.240 against him
00:34:38.120 did not work,
00:34:40.160 now all they're
00:34:41.860 left with
00:34:42.640 are these
00:34:44.100 legal assault,
00:34:46.340 this legal assault
00:34:47.220 on him,
00:34:48.100 and then
00:34:48.800 if he does end up
00:34:50.040 going head-to-head
00:34:51.100 with Joe Biden,
00:34:52.180 it's abundantly
00:34:53.300 clear that most
00:34:54.600 Americans will view
00:34:55.540 that really as a
00:34:56.800 choice between
00:34:57.440 Donald Trump
00:34:58.740 and Vice President
00:34:59.800 Kamala Harris,
00:35:01.080 because very,
00:35:02.040 very few Americans,
00:35:03.140 I think,
00:35:03.560 believe that Joe
00:35:04.800 Biden will possibly
00:35:06.140 fill out another
00:35:07.180 term,
00:35:07.620 he just doesn't
00:35:08.340 seem up to it,
00:35:09.500 it's not that we
00:35:10.140 wish him any ill will,
00:35:11.440 we don't,
00:35:12.460 but I think it is
00:35:14.040 just reality,
00:35:15.440 what I think is
00:35:16.380 really funny is the
00:35:17.360 way that constantly
00:35:18.380 in the middle of
00:35:19.200 a sentence he
00:35:20.140 well,
00:35:22.140 never mind.
00:35:24.600 Precisely.
00:35:25.520 Now,
00:35:25.820 Roger,
00:35:26.260 when we're looking
00:35:27.240 at this play out
00:35:29.580 in terms of
00:35:30.740 the vote turnout,
00:35:32.620 people forget that
00:35:33.480 there is a Democrat
00:35:34.620 primary that's also
00:35:35.960 going on right now,
00:35:37.200 Michigan,
00:35:37.800 we know,
00:35:38.740 and I've been saying
00:35:39.520 for a few weeks now,
00:35:41.220 has been something
00:35:42.320 of an emergency
00:35:43.360 for the Democrats,
00:35:44.760 they're dispatching
00:35:45.540 Roquehanna
00:35:46.560 and others
00:35:47.280 to try to meet
00:35:47.960 with these Muslim
00:35:48.800 American leaders
00:35:49.740 in places like
00:35:50.980 Dearborn.
00:35:51.980 We now saw
00:35:53.100 last night
00:35:54.060 where in some
00:35:55.580 of these areas,
00:35:56.940 the undecided
00:35:58.060 or uncommitted
00:35:59.080 actually polled
00:36:00.220 ahead of Joe
00:36:01.500 Biden in the
00:36:02.240 vote turnout.
00:36:03.260 Do you believe
00:36:04.100 this is going to be
00:36:04.840 a significant issue
00:36:05.820 for Biden
00:36:06.540 in the general
00:36:07.380 as all intents
00:36:08.400 seem to be?
00:36:08.880 Well,
00:36:10.140 it's not just
00:36:11.200 Michigan,
00:36:12.220 Jack.
00:36:12.560 What we've seen
00:36:13.060 across the board
00:36:13.900 is a lack
00:36:14.880 of enthusiasm
00:36:15.600 for Joe Biden,
00:36:17.000 which is reflected
00:36:18.400 in the fact
00:36:19.000 that the turnouts
00:36:20.020 in New Hampshire,
00:36:21.140 for example,
00:36:22.220 and in Michigan
00:36:24.000 now,
00:36:24.940 are anemic.
00:36:26.240 Also is true
00:36:27.180 in South Carolina.
00:36:28.560 Just the total
00:36:29.740 number of people
00:36:30.940 turning out
00:36:32.020 to vote for Joe Biden,
00:36:33.200 even when he's
00:36:34.000 essentially unopposed.
00:36:36.060 Sure,
00:36:36.220 he got 95.6%
00:36:38.340 of the vote,
00:36:38.980 I think it was
00:36:39.640 in South Carolina,
00:36:40.780 but it's immaterial
00:36:41.860 because of the very,
00:36:43.260 very small number
00:36:44.120 of people who voted.
00:36:45.780 In Michigan,
00:36:46.360 you have a specific
00:36:47.520 problem where
00:36:49.120 there's a very
00:36:50.240 substantial Muslim
00:36:51.500 American vote
00:36:52.640 and they are unhappy
00:36:54.320 with Biden's
00:36:55.620 war policies
00:36:56.700 and they're taking
00:36:58.180 it out on him.
00:36:59.120 I don't see any
00:37:00.280 instance in which
00:37:01.760 these very same
00:37:02.780 voters
00:37:03.260 return to Joe
00:37:05.500 Biden in the fall.
00:37:06.700 This is not like
00:37:07.640 Democrats,
00:37:08.920 say,
00:37:09.220 in New Hampshire
00:37:09.820 who ventured
00:37:11.080 into the Republican
00:37:11.980 primary by changing
00:37:13.500 their registration
00:37:14.300 and voting
00:37:14.920 in the New Hampshire
00:37:15.840 Republican primary
00:37:16.680 or left-leaning
00:37:18.380 independents
00:37:19.320 who never intended
00:37:20.480 to vote for Donald
00:37:21.240 Trump in the fall
00:37:22.160 anyway,
00:37:23.140 but went into
00:37:23.880 the Republican primary
00:37:24.820 to vote for
00:37:25.580 Nikki Haley.
00:37:26.280 This is a completely
00:37:27.620 different phenomena.
00:37:29.960 Joe has real
00:37:31.020 serious problems
00:37:32.000 in his voter
00:37:32.660 coalition
00:37:33.240 and given
00:37:34.740 the dual
00:37:36.360 war strategy
00:37:37.860 he seems to be
00:37:39.180 pursuing,
00:37:39.780 which is to say
00:37:40.500 supporting both
00:37:41.540 Israel and Iran
00:37:42.960 in the conflict,
00:37:44.420 unfreezing
00:37:45.280 $100 billion
00:37:46.160 for Iran
00:37:47.160 while also
00:37:48.540 continuing to
00:37:49.260 support our
00:37:49.740 traditional
00:37:50.320 ally Israel,
00:37:51.860 that is a
00:37:52.680 losing strategy
00:37:53.960 for him
00:37:54.600 all the way
00:37:55.440 around.
00:37:57.800 It really is
00:37:58.940 a catch-22
00:37:59.720 that they put
00:38:00.640 themselves into
00:38:01.500 and of course
00:38:02.100 the Democrats
00:38:02.640 built their
00:38:03.380 coalition this way
00:38:04.500 during the Obama
00:38:05.400 years,
00:38:05.920 they called it
00:38:06.460 intersectionality
00:38:07.520 in this strategy
00:38:08.320 at the time,
00:38:09.320 putting together
00:38:10.180 what they called
00:38:11.300 sort of the
00:38:12.240 liberal Jewish
00:38:13.080 Americans,
00:38:14.140 Muslim Americans
00:38:15.120 and building
00:38:16.720 all of this
00:38:17.420 resentment
00:38:17.940 around conservatives,
00:38:19.960 later on resentment
00:38:20.760 around Trump,
00:38:21.540 which they focused
00:38:22.160 on in 2020,
00:38:23.740 but of course
00:38:24.420 there are many
00:38:24.860 people on the
00:38:25.540 conservative side
00:38:26.320 of the aisle
00:38:26.880 who said that
00:38:27.680 this marriage
00:38:28.680 will not last
00:38:29.840 and I think
00:38:30.440 that's what's
00:38:30.780 happening right now.
00:38:32.540 Yeah,
00:38:33.140 it is a little
00:38:34.440 disappointing
00:38:35.160 in the sense
00:38:35.860 that I would
00:38:36.880 have hoped
00:38:37.440 to make greater
00:38:38.640 inroads
00:38:39.240 among Jewish
00:38:39.980 voters.
00:38:41.020 Jewish voters
00:38:41.700 in America
00:38:42.520 are among
00:38:43.480 the strongest
00:38:44.260 traditional
00:38:45.240 Democratic voters
00:38:46.880 despite the fact
00:38:48.200 that it was
00:38:48.900 President Richard Nixon
00:38:50.160 who unilaterally
00:38:51.660 saved Israel
00:38:52.540 from total
00:38:53.180 annihilation
00:38:53.880 in the 1973
00:38:55.600 Yom Kippur War
00:38:56.700 over the objections
00:38:57.920 of the national
00:38:58.640 security apparatus
00:38:59.960 despite the fact
00:39:01.380 that it is
00:39:01.880 Donald Trump
00:39:02.600 who kept his
00:39:03.640 pledge to move
00:39:04.920 the capital,
00:39:06.200 Donald Trump
00:39:06.720 who forged
00:39:08.400 the historic
00:39:09.240 Abraham Accords
00:39:10.340 for peace.
00:39:11.420 I mean,
00:39:11.540 Donald Trump
00:39:11.860 has a very
00:39:12.540 solid record
00:39:13.720 in the Middle
00:39:14.240 East
00:39:14.540 and has been
00:39:15.680 an unflinching
00:39:17.220 ally of Israel.
00:39:19.940 You would think
00:39:20.980 that we would
00:39:21.840 make greater
00:39:22.940 inroads
00:39:23.600 in that vote.
00:39:24.900 Now,
00:39:25.060 we're doing better
00:39:25.640 than we've ever
00:39:26.260 done,
00:39:27.160 but we haven't
00:39:28.480 made the kind
00:39:29.380 of inroads
00:39:30.200 that I think
00:39:30.960 are more logical
00:39:32.500 given the state
00:39:34.120 of conditions
00:39:35.440 and facts.
00:39:37.760 Well,
00:39:38.380 I think you're
00:39:38.780 right and
00:39:39.380 certainly there's
00:39:40.320 going to be
00:39:41.000 a lot at play
00:39:42.100 there because
00:39:43.000 this is why
00:39:44.560 potentially why
00:39:45.400 the Democrats
00:39:45.840 are attempting
00:39:46.560 and Biden's
00:39:47.280 really attempting
00:39:48.160 to wind this
00:39:49.360 down before
00:39:50.900 votes are cast.
00:39:52.340 So we're sitting
00:39:52.760 here at the end
00:39:53.540 of February.
00:39:54.060 We've got one
00:39:54.520 more day in
00:39:54.980 February because
00:39:55.580 every presidential
00:39:56.180 year is a leap
00:39:57.640 year,
00:39:58.360 but we know
00:39:59.400 that March
00:39:59.900 is coming up
00:40:00.520 and then so
00:40:00.980 by November
00:40:01.820 they're really
00:40:02.780 hoping to find
00:40:03.520 a ceasefire
00:40:04.220 or find something
00:40:05.120 because it's
00:40:05.800 become an
00:40:06.640 absolute albatross
00:40:08.000 and really
00:40:08.460 a wedge issue
00:40:09.220 between the
00:40:09.720 Democrats
00:40:10.040 for this
00:40:10.440 coalition.
00:40:11.240 Last minute
00:40:11.760 till the break,
00:40:12.280 Roger Stone.
00:40:13.660 They've caused
00:40:14.320 their own problems.
00:40:15.220 When you give
00:40:15.680 $100 billion
00:40:16.380 to Iran
00:40:17.440 and you think
00:40:18.560 that they're
00:40:19.000 really just
00:40:19.480 going to spend
00:40:19.960 it for humanitarian
00:40:20.740 aid,
00:40:21.580 that shows
00:40:22.420 either stunning
00:40:23.180 naivete
00:40:23.800 or a willful
00:40:25.240 strategy to
00:40:26.200 undermine
00:40:26.780 your own
00:40:27.480 country.
00:40:29.320 I can only
00:40:30.200 call it a
00:40:30.880 willful strategy.
00:40:31.980 I said at
00:40:32.540 CPAC that we
00:40:33.100 are living
00:40:33.480 through the
00:40:34.120 third administration
00:40:35.080 of Barack
00:40:35.620 Obama's
00:40:36.080 policies and
00:40:37.040 certainly this
00:40:37.600 was Barack
00:40:38.480 Obama's
00:40:38.960 policies when
00:40:39.980 he was in
00:40:40.800 office.
00:40:41.240 It was called
00:40:41.520 the Iran
00:40:42.040 deal,
00:40:42.520 the Iran
00:40:42.880 nuclear deal
00:40:43.680 under various
00:40:44.500 names and
00:40:45.000 sending money
00:40:45.600 on pallets
00:40:46.180 of cash
00:40:46.620 to Iran
00:40:47.620 was repeated
00:40:48.160 by President
00:40:48.700 Trump more
00:40:49.660 times than I
00:40:50.440 think anything
00:40:51.200 other than
00:40:51.820 the word
00:40:52.200 China in
00:40:53.280 2016.
00:40:54.280 Stay tuned.
00:40:54.620 We'll be right
00:40:54.880 back with more
00:40:55.460 Roger Stone
00:40:56.420 and his
00:40:56.960 handicap on
00:40:58.060 the inside
00:40:58.580 track for the
00:40:59.500 shortlist of
00:41:00.180 the vice
00:41:00.480 presidential picks
00:41:01.220 for Donald
00:41:01.680 Trump,
00:41:02.320 the Republican
00:41:02.700 presumptive
00:41:03.260 nominee.
00:41:07.040 working long
00:41:08.380 hours.
00:41:09.040 I'm always
00:41:09.340 listening to
00:41:09.920 Human Events
00:41:10.440 with Jack
00:41:10.840 Posobiec.
00:41:14.060 All right,
00:41:15.100 Jack Posobiec
00:41:15.720 back here live
00:41:16.700 Human Events
00:41:17.620 Daily.
00:41:18.320 We're with
00:41:18.620 Roger Stone.
00:41:19.360 Roger, before
00:41:20.860 we left, and
00:41:22.780 I've seen on
00:41:23.500 social media and
00:41:24.260 other spots, as
00:41:25.680 of late, you
00:41:27.000 have taken, and
00:41:27.960 I've been
00:41:28.500 reporting this as
00:41:29.240 well, to
00:41:29.940 essentially
00:41:30.600 reporting and,
00:41:31.660 dare I say,
00:41:33.060 even soft
00:41:33.860 advocating for
00:41:35.460 someone a bit
00:41:37.240 of a wild
00:41:37.780 card as a
00:41:39.020 pick for the
00:41:40.320 vice presidential
00:41:41.420 slot for
00:41:43.080 Donald Trump.
00:41:44.700 Walk us
00:41:45.060 through your
00:41:46.100 recent ideas.
00:41:48.660 Sure.
00:41:49.460 Well, Jack,
00:41:49.960 first of all, I
00:41:50.380 think there's
00:41:50.680 several criteria
00:41:51.420 to be vice
00:41:52.280 president.
00:41:52.860 First and
00:41:53.260 foremost,
00:41:53.940 obviously,
00:41:54.460 the president,
00:41:55.320 President Trump,
00:41:56.340 must select an
00:41:57.720 individual who
00:41:58.600 has the
00:41:59.300 experience, the
00:42:00.720 temperament, the
00:42:01.760 judgment to
00:42:02.760 actually be
00:42:04.020 president in
00:42:05.540 the horrific
00:42:06.120 event that
00:42:06.760 Donald Trump
00:42:07.260 is not able
00:42:07.940 to finish his
00:42:08.700 term.
00:42:09.500 Then, secondarily,
00:42:11.140 he needs to
00:42:11.960 pick someone who
00:42:13.220 on the big
00:42:13.800 picture issues of
00:42:14.900 war and peace,
00:42:16.600 gun control,
00:42:19.100 I should say
00:42:19.600 Second Amendment
00:42:20.260 rights, abortion,
00:42:22.280 and other key
00:42:23.340 issues is solid.
00:42:25.120 Also, someone,
00:42:26.300 most importantly,
00:42:27.220 who will stand
00:42:27.900 up to the war
00:42:29.080 machine, someone
00:42:29.980 who will stand
00:42:31.020 up to the
00:42:31.980 neocons,
00:42:32.760 someone who
00:42:33.560 is very much
00:42:34.920 an America
00:42:35.700 first individual.
00:42:38.380 Now, then
00:42:39.520 and only then
00:42:40.420 can you begin
00:42:40.960 to look at
00:42:41.600 the political
00:42:42.500 considerations.
00:42:44.280 President Nixon
00:42:45.300 used to tell me
00:42:46.120 when looking for
00:42:46.960 a vice
00:42:47.400 presidential
00:42:47.940 running mate,
00:42:49.380 don't look for
00:42:50.000 someone who
00:42:50.760 can help you,
00:42:52.080 just choose
00:42:53.100 someone who
00:42:53.920 does not
00:42:54.660 hurt you.
00:42:55.720 Well, to me,
00:42:56.420 that means
00:42:57.120 part of the
00:42:57.820 criteria must
00:42:58.720 be someone
00:42:59.400 who is
00:43:00.360 sure-footed,
00:43:01.960 someone who
00:43:02.680 has run
00:43:04.060 for something
00:43:04.600 larger than,
00:43:05.460 say, oh,
00:43:06.340 I don't know,
00:43:07.260 governor of
00:43:07.760 South Dakota,
00:43:08.420 let's say,
00:43:09.200 someone who
00:43:10.060 perhaps has been
00:43:10.940 through a
00:43:11.400 presidential campaign
00:43:12.520 and understands
00:43:13.480 the extent to
00:43:14.800 which those
00:43:15.420 jackals in the
00:43:16.440 fake news media
00:43:17.780 are going to be
00:43:18.960 out to trick you
00:43:20.120 or to force you
00:43:21.740 into a mistake
00:43:22.660 from day one.
00:43:23.740 Well, that would
00:43:24.340 be the three
00:43:25.560 individuals who
00:43:26.440 have run for
00:43:26.920 president and
00:43:27.540 I think acquitted
00:43:28.240 themselves well,
00:43:29.600 Dr. Ben Carson,
00:43:30.620 who's a very
00:43:31.060 good man,
00:43:32.240 Vivek Ramaswamy,
00:43:33.360 who I also
00:43:34.040 like very much,
00:43:35.320 and Tulsi
00:43:36.460 Gabbard.
00:43:37.320 Now, Tulsi
00:43:38.280 Gabbard was a
00:43:39.380 Democrat.
00:43:40.920 She is today
00:43:42.000 an independent.
00:43:43.300 She is a
00:43:44.220 lieutenant colonel
00:43:45.620 in the U.S.
00:43:46.620 Army Reserve.
00:43:47.820 She is a
00:43:48.420 combat veteran
00:43:49.660 in both Iraq
00:43:51.200 and Kuwait.
00:43:53.400 She has,
00:43:54.680 as many people
00:43:55.560 in politics do,
00:43:56.420 she's having
00:43:56.980 evolution in
00:43:58.620 her views.
00:43:59.200 Donald Trump
00:43:59.720 was once
00:44:00.640 strongly pro-abortion.
00:44:02.480 Today, he is
00:44:03.300 the man who
00:44:03.800 appointed the
00:44:04.600 Supreme Court
00:44:05.220 justices who
00:44:06.000 overturned Roe.
00:44:08.160 Ronald Reagan
00:44:09.040 was an
00:44:09.560 extremely liberal
00:44:10.700 New Deal
00:44:11.400 Democrat.
00:44:12.420 He became
00:44:13.060 the single
00:44:14.020 most important
00:44:14.960 conservative
00:44:16.160 probably in
00:44:17.320 American history
00:44:18.200 with the
00:44:18.900 possible exception
00:44:19.700 of Barry
00:44:20.100 Goldwater who
00:44:20.800 started our
00:44:21.760 movement.
00:44:23.680 Tulsi Gabbard
00:44:25.240 is an
00:44:26.000 outspoken
00:44:26.680 opponent to
00:44:28.040 more funding
00:44:28.920 for Ukraine.
00:44:30.560 She is
00:44:30.920 against the
00:44:31.820 war machine.
00:44:33.140 Folks will
00:44:33.460 say,
00:44:33.740 she supported
00:44:34.740 Bernie Sanders.
00:44:35.680 Bernie Sanders
00:44:36.300 in the race
00:44:37.140 against Hillary
00:44:38.200 Clinton was
00:44:38.800 the anti-war
00:44:40.300 candidate.
00:44:41.400 She made it
00:44:41.880 clear at the
00:44:42.480 time that she
00:44:43.280 disagreed with
00:44:44.360 many of
00:44:44.760 Sanders'
00:44:45.240 economic
00:44:45.740 positions and
00:44:46.860 other positions,
00:44:47.620 but on the
00:44:48.120 larger question
00:44:49.060 of war,
00:44:49.900 that's where
00:44:51.120 she agreed
00:44:52.220 with him.
00:44:53.240 She has had
00:44:55.160 an evolution
00:44:55.800 in her
00:44:56.360 thinking.
00:44:57.240 Evidently,
00:44:57.880 she was at
00:44:58.580 one time
00:44:59.300 pro-gun
00:45:00.000 control.
00:45:00.500 Today,
00:45:01.180 she's an
00:45:01.920 outspoken
00:45:02.920 supporter of
00:45:03.820 the Second
00:45:04.160 Amendment.
00:45:05.100 I interviewed
00:45:05.720 her on my
00:45:06.520 WABC radio
00:45:08.080 show last
00:45:08.840 Sunday.
00:45:09.560 She was
00:45:09.800 calling from
00:45:10.300 a shooting
00:45:10.720 range where
00:45:11.640 she was in
00:45:12.320 a shooting
00:45:12.720 contest in
00:45:13.860 Arizona.
00:45:14.540 You could
00:45:14.780 hear gunshots
00:45:15.600 in the
00:45:16.680 background.
00:45:17.120 Based on
00:45:18.580 her experience
00:45:19.600 in the
00:45:20.960 military,
00:45:21.940 based on
00:45:22.480 her service
00:45:23.080 as a
00:45:23.620 former
00:45:24.080 Democrat,
00:45:25.460 based on
00:45:25.900 her service
00:45:26.380 as a
00:45:26.780 former
00:45:27.060 vice
00:45:27.400 chairman
00:45:27.780 of the
00:45:28.100 Democratic
00:45:28.600 Party,
00:45:29.580 based on
00:45:30.320 her great
00:45:32.100 energy,
00:45:33.100 the fact
00:45:33.360 she's a
00:45:33.720 championship
00:45:34.320 surfer,
00:45:35.720 I think
00:45:36.100 she has
00:45:36.580 the energy,
00:45:37.620 the experience,
00:45:39.120 I think
00:45:39.960 she has
00:45:40.400 the charisma
00:45:41.160 to bring
00:45:42.480 some new
00:45:43.320 votes to
00:45:44.240 the table.
00:45:45.000 Now,
00:45:45.580 I'm not
00:45:46.580 endorsing
00:45:47.060 anyone for
00:45:47.680 vice
00:45:47.920 president.
00:45:48.560 I'm going
00:45:49.120 to be
00:45:49.380 for whoever
00:45:49.880 Donald
00:45:50.300 Trump
00:45:50.660 selects,
00:45:51.800 and I
00:45:52.420 cannot tell
00:45:52.980 you that
00:45:53.360 he's going
00:45:54.160 to take
00:45:54.440 my advice
00:45:55.140 on this
00:45:55.580 any more
00:45:56.000 than perhaps
00:45:56.520 anyone else's,
00:45:57.980 but I'm
00:45:58.440 looking for
00:45:59.220 somebody who
00:45:59.900 will bring
00:46:00.400 new voters
00:46:01.160 to the
00:46:01.600 coalition.
00:46:02.480 I love
00:46:02.900 Ben Carson,
00:46:03.940 but I cannot
00:46:04.580 think of a
00:46:05.380 single vote
00:46:06.140 that we don't
00:46:06.940 already have
00:46:07.800 that Ben
00:46:08.420 Carson would
00:46:09.220 bring us.
00:46:10.120 Would he be
00:46:10.520 a good
00:46:10.780 vice president?
00:46:11.860 Sure,
00:46:12.520 but we have
00:46:13.640 to get just
00:46:14.440 a few more
00:46:15.160 votes if you
00:46:15.800 look at this
00:46:16.260 polling,
00:46:16.600 and I
00:46:17.400 think Tulsi
00:46:18.120 Gabbard may
00:46:19.100 well be
00:46:19.960 the ticket.
00:46:20.900 Now,
00:46:21.060 there's a bunch
00:46:21.420 of folks
00:46:21.760 out there
00:46:22.080 going to be
00:46:22.400 unhappy with
00:46:23.180 that.
00:46:23.500 That's fine.
00:46:24.500 I stress
00:46:25.100 again,
00:46:25.740 I'm endorsing
00:46:26.540 no one for
00:46:27.160 vice president.
00:46:28.020 I am talking
00:46:28.840 about an idea
00:46:29.720 that I find
00:46:31.060 intriguing.
00:46:31.840 If Donald
00:46:32.560 Trump chooses
00:46:33.300 someone else
00:46:34.380 for vice
00:46:34.760 president,
00:46:35.300 that's who
00:46:36.180 I will be
00:46:36.980 supporting.
00:46:37.480 Now,
00:46:40.100 I guess the
00:46:40.640 real question,
00:46:41.400 of course,
00:46:41.900 is does
00:46:42.900 it work?
00:46:43.740 Do you
00:46:44.000 think that
00:46:44.440 that's
00:46:44.720 somebody,
00:46:45.200 and it's
00:46:45.560 interesting
00:46:45.880 because I'm
00:46:46.680 sure the
00:46:47.180 Democrats
00:46:47.540 will point
00:46:48.680 out that
00:46:49.800 she did
00:46:50.640 endorse
00:46:51.000 Biden
00:46:51.460 after her
00:46:52.420 run in
00:46:53.180 2020,
00:46:54.340 although I
00:46:55.100 think that
00:46:55.440 was quite
00:46:55.920 short-lived,
00:46:56.740 and certainly
00:46:58.120 we would all
00:46:59.360 love to see
00:47:00.120 Tulsi Gabbard
00:47:00.900 again on the
00:47:01.820 debate stage
00:47:02.500 with Kamala
00:47:03.060 Harris,
00:47:03.720 as she has
00:47:04.520 a bit of
00:47:05.100 experience with
00:47:05.920 that early
00:47:06.500 on in the
00:47:07.120 debates from
00:47:07.540 2020.
00:47:08.460 She really
00:47:09.220 is credited,
00:47:09.880 and I think
00:47:10.160 rightly so,
00:47:10.700 as being the
00:47:11.040 one who took
00:47:11.660 her out of
00:47:12.100 that race.
00:47:12.880 But I
00:47:13.140 suppose the
00:47:13.540 question is,
00:47:14.420 does she have
00:47:15.720 enough credibility
00:47:17.060 to bring some
00:47:18.580 of those
00:47:18.940 independents
00:47:19.820 across the
00:47:20.560 aisle in
00:47:20.980 those states?
00:47:22.220 I think that
00:47:23.180 she does.
00:47:23.800 You want
00:47:24.440 exactly where
00:47:25.020 I was going
00:47:25.500 to go.
00:47:25.960 You want
00:47:26.360 somebody who
00:47:27.540 is fearless,
00:47:28.340 who can go
00:47:29.000 into a debate
00:47:29.680 with Kamala
00:47:30.300 Harris and take
00:47:31.000 her to the
00:47:31.380 cleaners.
00:47:32.720 Tulsi Gabbard
00:47:33.560 has already
00:47:33.980 demonstrated her
00:47:34.940 ability to do
00:47:35.700 that.
00:47:36.360 If you haven't
00:47:36.880 seen that clip,
00:47:37.640 you can see it
00:47:38.140 on my X
00:47:39.360 profile.
00:47:40.100 I put it up
00:47:40.840 because it
00:47:41.920 was so
00:47:42.580 impressive.
00:47:43.280 If you watched
00:47:44.120 her speech at
00:47:44.960 CPAC, which
00:47:46.280 she delivered
00:47:47.340 without a single
00:47:48.400 note, it was
00:47:50.060 flawless.
00:47:50.860 I think she is
00:47:51.540 sure-footed.
00:47:52.520 I think she
00:47:52.920 has an appeal
00:47:53.720 to millennials.
00:47:55.040 I think she
00:47:55.560 has an appeal
00:47:56.200 to disaffected
00:47:57.360 Democrats.
00:47:58.460 She has really
00:47:59.680 taken Nikki
00:48:00.620 Haley on
00:48:01.560 and defended
00:48:03.040 President Trump
00:48:04.280 in the tsunami
00:48:05.200 of weaponized
00:48:06.540 lawfare against
00:48:07.780 him, for
00:48:08.180 example.
00:48:09.380 People do
00:48:10.260 change, Jack.
00:48:11.220 Over time, people
00:48:11.980 have an evolution.
00:48:12.880 I was once an
00:48:13.940 establishment Republican.
00:48:15.340 Today, I'm more
00:48:15.940 of a Rand Paul,
00:48:17.480 Ron Paul,
00:48:18.380 libertarian Republican.
00:48:19.720 That was not
00:48:20.400 always the case.
00:48:21.840 So when you get
00:48:23.180 more information,
00:48:24.380 when you learn
00:48:25.100 more things,
00:48:26.480 your views
00:48:27.120 change.
00:48:27.560 Tucker Carlson
00:48:28.940 once supported
00:48:29.680 the war in
00:48:30.280 Iraq.
00:48:31.080 He now
00:48:31.420 realizes the
00:48:32.180 war in Iraq
00:48:32.700 was an
00:48:33.100 enormous mistake
00:48:34.280 that we were
00:48:34.840 lied into.
00:48:35.840 And of course,
00:48:36.700 President Trump
00:48:37.680 himself at one
00:48:38.560 point was also
00:48:39.500 a Democrat.
00:48:41.280 Ronald Reagan
00:48:41.940 was himself.
00:48:42.680 Roger, we're
00:48:43.040 just about out
00:48:44.000 of time.
00:48:44.640 Where can people
00:48:45.020 go to follow
00:48:45.540 you and get
00:48:46.100 into the
00:48:46.420 Stone Zone?
00:48:47.720 They can go
00:48:48.140 to StoneZone.com,
00:48:49.480 StoneZone.com.
00:48:50.520 You can subscribe
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00:48:52.060 See my daily
00:48:52.740 show, The Stone
00:48:53.460 Zone, there.
00:48:54.320 You can listen
00:48:54.600 to my WABC
00:48:55.380 radio show.
00:48:56.460 And of course,
00:48:56.840 you can get
00:48:57.140 your very own
00:48:57.940 Roger Stone
00:48:58.900 did nothing wrong
00:48:59.560 t-shirt, the
00:49:00.460 t-shirt I was
00:49:01.120 arrested in.
00:49:02.840 Ladies and
00:49:03.280 gentlemen, as
00:49:03.660 always, you have
00:49:04.180 my permission
00:49:04.640 to lay short.