Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - June 09, 2023


EPISODE 492： BIDEN DOJ INDICTS TRUMP, PATRIOTS LAUNCH MAGA COUNTEROFFENSIVE

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deep state indictment against Trump
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Donald Trump Roger Stone Hunter Biden Benedict DeSantis Burisma Richard Nixon Ron DeSantis Marjorie Taylor Greene Conservative Barry Goldwater Ronald Reagan Victor Shokin Zelensky Christopher Wray Theon Greyjoy Jon Snow Raskin Sarah Huckabee Sanders John F. Kennedy Nelson Rockefeller Christopher Wright and 33 more
EPISODE 491： DID AN FBI INFORMANT REPORT JOE BIDEN TOOK A $5M BRIBE FROM BURISMA？ EPISODE 493： TRUMP SEES POLLS SURGE IN WAKE OF INDICTMENTS

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We are in a 5-generational conflict. For every lie they tell us, we are going to get in their face and yell two truths. My fear is if they can t imprison Donald Trump, what s next? Assassination? If the president in power can just jail his political opponents, which is what Joe Biden is trying to do tonight, we don t have a republic anymore.

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00:00:30.000 We are in a fifth generational conflict.
00:00:37.840 For every lie they tell, we're going to get in their face and yell two truths.
00:00:45.560 This is Human Events with your host, Jack Poso.
00:00:48.460 Christ is king.
00:00:49.900 My fear is if they can't imprison Donald Trump, what's next?
00:00:54.180 Assassination?
00:00:54.860 If the president in power can just jail his political opponents, which is what Joe Biden
00:01:00.960 is trying to do tonight, we don't have a republic anymore. 0.90
00:01:03.700 They made the decision to interfere in this election.
00:01:07.520 You want to talk about an insurrection?
00:01:09.980 This is an insurrection.
00:01:12.580 They come after Donald Trump, weaponizing the Justice Department, weaponizing the FBI.
00:01:20.160 We can't let this continue to go on because it's ripping our country to shreds.
00:01:25.760 Where's the money?
00:01:27.400 I'm Joe Biden.
00:01:28.320 Mr. President, I turn it off.
00:01:30.000 It's a bunch of malarkey.
00:01:31.620 Well, listen, we just heard Joe Biden demonstrate the absolute smugness of being insulated by the
00:01:38.720 most politically corrupt Department of Justice in history.
00:01:43.000 Not one single time suggested the Justice Department what they should do or not do
00:01:48.760 relative to bringing a charge or not bringing a charge.
00:01:51.160 I hope that the committee goes after them and holds them accountable.
00:01:55.060 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition Human Events.
00:02:00.880 Today is June 9th, 2023.
00:02:04.120 I'm not going to mince words for folks.
00:02:07.060 You've heard about the bogus charges against the president.
00:02:10.540 You've heard about the bogus indictment.
00:02:13.080 We've got Marjorie Taylor Greene coming up at the end of the show with a bombshell interview 0.99
00:02:17.040 about the actual money, the bribery that's been changing hands from Ukrainian oligarchs
00:02:22.360 all the way to Biden and his crackhead son.
00:02:25.720 That's what they're trying to cover up.
00:02:26.940 We've also got Tiffany Justice, the Moms for Liberty. 1.00
00:02:30.660 Why?
00:02:30.820 Because the regime is going after not only our president, but also, yeah, that's right.
00:02:35.140 I said it, our president, but also the mothers of this country.
00:02:38.440 They're going to go after anyone they can that stands against them.
00:02:42.020 Well, I'm calling for something right now, and that is the MAGA counteroffensive.
00:02:46.540 We will launch the MAGA counteroffensive.
00:02:49.560 This means President Trump's rallies this weekend.
00:02:52.020 This means rallying for him at the end, not just for him, by the way, for all of us down
00:02:58.160 at Mar-a-Lago or Miami, wherever he chooses to have it.
00:03:01.000 And so I wanted to bring on someone who's an expert in counteroffensives, an expert in
00:03:06.740 understanding public political opinion, and also someone who's been targeted by the very
00:03:11.860 same forces that we see targeting the president now, the former strategist for the president,
00:03:17.660 Mr. Roger Stone.
00:03:18.560 Roger, how are you?
00:03:19.960 Jack, great to be with you, even on this very, very sad day for our republic.
00:03:24.500 Well, I agree, Roger, and I have to say, you know, when I sat through your trial, when
00:03:30.460 that took place, when we sat through all of it, we see the very same corruption of our
00:03:34.820 justice system, the weaponization of the political process.
00:03:39.000 Do you view this as that same type of operation?
00:03:43.060 They went after you, they went after Flynn, they've gone after so many people.
00:03:46.800 Now we see the charges against the president.
00:03:49.020 It's identical, Jack.
00:03:51.780 I mean, look, I was naive to think at six o'clock in the morning when 29 heavily armed
00:03:57.460 FBI agents in full SWAT gear brandishing M4 fully automatic assault weapons stormed my
00:04:04.300 home to arrest me for the first time nonviolent crime of allegedly lying to Congress about Russian
00:04:11.100 collusion that never actually happened, that I would get a fair trial.
00:04:15.800 What was I wrong?
00:04:16.740 So it is absolutely clear to me that the same folks are in charge and they recognize that
00:04:24.800 Donald Trump, an older, wiser Donald Trump, is an existential threat to their entire plan
00:04:32.760 for the new world order and their plan essentially to cancel the U.S. Constitution and destroy and
00:04:39.440 erase our legacy, our history, and our heritage.
00:04:43.700 They really want to erase our basic freedoms.
00:04:48.080 Trump stands in the way.
00:04:50.060 They become increasingly apoplectic because even their own polls show that if election were
00:04:56.340 held tomorrow, Trump would trounce Joe Biden.
00:04:59.740 They keep telling us in one breath, Trump is tired.
00:05:03.320 He's washed up.
00:05:04.240 He's old news.
00:05:05.260 There's Trump fatigue.
00:05:06.420 And then the next breath, they say, oh, my God, we don't want to run against that guy
00:05:09.820 because he's beaten them twice.
00:05:11.280 And they know that if we have a free, fair, honest election, he will beat them again.
00:05:17.880 So what do they do?
00:05:19.140 They cook up a bunch of charges against him.
00:05:22.840 I don't think we're finished yet, by the way.
00:05:24.480 I think there'll be additional charges in additional jurisdictions because they're going to use the
00:05:29.340 belt and suspenders approach in their attempt to destroy him.
00:05:32.260 They can't beat him at the ballot box, so now they intend to flood the jury box.
00:05:38.580 Roger, you've talked so much about how these very same forces have gone after all populist
00:05:43.920 presidents going back several generations at this point.
00:05:47.040 Do you think that's what's going on here?
00:05:48.560 Do we see these forces, you know, call it the deep state, the permanent state, the administrative
00:05:52.880 state, the bureaucracy, whatever name you like, is that what's still going on?
00:05:57.160 Yeah, this is a continuation of a historic thread.
00:06:00.200 Look, they killed John F. Kennedy.
00:06:03.160 They actually murdered him because he wanted to dismantle the deep state, and he had a
00:06:08.580 deep distrust of the intelligence agencies after they botched the Bay of Pigs and kept
00:06:14.480 him in the dark about the Russian, the Cuban Missile Crisis.
00:06:18.400 They took Richard Nixon out in a silent coup.
00:06:21.160 Why?
00:06:21.500 Because, well, he was for peace.
00:06:23.660 He ended the war in Vietnam.
00:06:25.100 He negotiated a strategic arms limitation agreement with the Soviets.
00:06:28.920 He opened the door to China when China was a dirt or backwards agrarian society. 1.00
00:06:35.760 Nixon had no way of knowing that the Bushes would give most favored nation trading status
00:06:40.640 to the Chinese, and the Clintons would sell the Chinese our most secret top military secrets,
00:06:47.180 making them the world power that they are today.
00:06:49.880 And then they tried to take Trump out repeatedly.
00:06:52.480 In the Russian collusion hoax, John Durham's report completely exonerates me, by the way.
00:06:59.480 Then there was impeachment hoax number one, impeachment hoax number two.
00:07:03.400 These people never quit.
00:07:04.940 I mean, they are relentless in their pushing a lie.
00:07:08.480 And Trump makes them crazy because now it is abundantly clear that he's got their number.
00:07:15.600 He understands what needs to be done in a second administration to have a second American 1.00
00:07:21.060 revolution.
00:07:22.320 And he's inching closer and closer to victory.
00:07:24.740 And this makes them insane.
00:07:27.480 I think it's exactly right.
00:07:28.900 What we're seeing here is a death of a thousand cuts approach.
00:07:33.160 There's this idea that if they can go after him, belt suspenders, right, that they can go
00:07:38.660 after him in this jurisdiction and other jurisdictions looking at Georgia.
00:07:42.040 I believe, and we've talked about this with the great Julie Kelly, that they are going
00:07:45.720 to try to take the same seditious conspiracy charge that they leveled against the Proud
00:07:50.400 Boys, the Oath Keepers, et cetera, and then place that to President Trump.
00:07:55.040 We are going to come back because, Roger, I want you to give your handicap. 1.00
00:07:58.020 Now, we haven't seen polls yet.
00:07:59.520 I haven't had Trafalgar or Barris on or anybody.
00:08:02.420 I've even spoken to Rasmussen about this.
00:08:04.580 I want to know what do we think is going to happen in the presidential primary?
00:08:09.640 Because this is going on, I have yet to see anyone suspend their campaign in solidarity
00:08:15.280 with President Trump, or at least even call for a pause.
00:08:19.200 So stay tuned.
00:08:20.280 We're going to be coming back with The Great Roger Stone.
00:08:21.700 All right, folks, Jack Posobiec back with Roger Stone.
00:08:41.480 We do have breaking news.
00:08:43.100 The indictment against President Trump has been unsealed 37 counts.
00:08:46.780 This is the same, you know, shock and awe kind of tactic that you saw with Alvin Bragg
00:08:51.640 by breaking up every single piece they could into a separate count, 37 counts, including
00:08:57.560 31 counts of, quote, willful retention of presidential, you know, national defense information.
00:09:05.180 Again, I want to sort of remind everyone the law here.
00:09:07.520 The President of the United States is the commander in chief.
00:09:11.020 Classification exists because of the office of the presidency.
00:09:15.360 It is through the office of the presidency that all classification runs, it actually
00:09:21.640 falls from, right?
00:09:22.900 There is no overarching classification authority.
00:09:25.540 He is the OCA, the Originating Classification Authority.
00:09:30.280 If the President of the United States deems something to be unclassified, it is unclassified
00:09:35.920 thusly.
00:09:36.660 He doesn't have to file a form with anyone.
00:09:39.220 He doesn't have to wave a magic wand.
00:09:41.140 And it doesn't matter what he says at Bedminster.
00:09:43.200 It doesn't matter what he says anywhere else.
00:09:44.420 That's the way the classification system works.
00:09:47.940 But we know that.
00:09:49.080 They know that.
00:09:50.080 Everyone who goes through basic 101 level intel analysis knows that, like when I was an
00:09:55.160 intelligence officer.
00:09:56.020 But, Roger, what I want to get back to you is this is going to affect the race.
00:10:00.320 I believe it's going to affect the race. 0.74
00:10:01.620 It will certainly shake up the primary.
00:10:03.540 Let's go through some of the scenarios.
00:10:05.940 Do you believe that this will lead to a bump for President Trump?
00:10:10.840 Do you think it'll cause perhaps some people to shy away and then take another look at Governor
00:10:15.800 DeSantis of Florida, who has yet to suspend his campaign?
00:10:18.960 Obviously, Vivek Ramaswamy has been out there really swinging for the fences for President
00:10:23.960 Trump.
00:10:24.840 What is your handicap?
00:10:25.720 Actually, I think it's counterintuitive, Jack, but I think we're going to see the same effect
00:10:30.860 that we saw in the wake of the New York indictments.
00:10:34.280 In other words, that which does not kill Trump actually makes him stronger.
00:10:38.580 Most Americans, certainly most Republicans, see through this charade.
00:10:42.840 With this announcement of 37 charges, I have to assume the special counsel investigating
00:10:48.960 Joe Biden's handling of documents, I'm sure he's going to be announcing the indictment of
00:10:53.100 Joe Biden tomorrow.
00:10:54.500 Oh, wait a minute.
00:10:55.180 Yes, of course, in Delaware.
00:10:56.980 So I think most folks understand, within the party certainly, within the movement, that all
00:11:04.760 this really does is reinforce the fact that Donald Trump is our strongest candidate.
00:11:09.900 He's our strongest candidate, clearly, to be nominated.
00:11:13.400 He dwarfs Governor DeSantis, despite the fact that the governor is spending millions of dollars
00:11:19.280 of globalist money to try to reinvent himself as Donald Trump without the hair, which is
00:11:25.580 not really working.
00:11:27.080 But I also think that the Democrats are panicked by the fact that all of the polls, all the credible
00:11:33.740 polls, have showed him pulling away from Joe Biden.
00:11:36.880 That's exactly why they have done this.
00:11:38.560 So I would predict to you the president goes up in the polls.
00:11:41.720 I would also predict to you that his campaign war chest will be fattened with millions of
00:11:47.600 more small donations, which has always been where he's traditionally got his money.
00:11:52.900 Anybody who knows Donald Trump understands that he is, above all, not a quitter.
00:11:58.540 He will never quit.
00:12:00.340 He's a warrior.
00:12:02.180 And I think he will now just double down.
00:12:04.360 But there are some troubling questions, Jack.
00:12:06.300 Will they put a gag order on him?
00:12:09.080 Will they restrict his travel?
00:12:10.740 They did both those things to me when I was under federal charges.
00:12:13.960 You know, the president is very articulate and aggressive in terms of defending himself in
00:12:19.280 public.
00:12:19.900 Are they going to try to shut that down?
00:12:21.580 If so, it would be outrageous.
00:12:23.880 It would be clear election interference.
00:12:26.240 But it is one of the things that could happen, which would substantially hamper his campaign.
00:12:31.820 I think that's exactly right.
00:12:34.660 So there's a he has two rallies this weekend, I believe, one in Georgia, one in South Carolina.
00:12:39.760 Then we're told that he is going to be turning himself in in Miami, the Southern District.
00:12:45.220 And there is a real possibility if that is the case.
00:12:48.740 This these could be the final two MAGA rallies that take place before the campaign.
00:12:54.400 Is that right?
00:12:55.600 I think that's absolutely true.
00:12:57.140 Joe, you said something earlier that I want to address that I think is very, very important
00:13:00.560 for those who decide to join any public protest, anybody who wants to demonstrate their support
00:13:07.440 for the president, anyone who wants to protest the injustice of this.
00:13:11.600 It is essential that you keep it peaceful, you keep it civil and you keep it legal.
00:13:17.200 They would like nothing better than some kind of false flag operation in which they can blame
00:13:22.460 Trump supporters for violence that they incite.
00:13:26.160 So remember, not everybody wearing a MAGA hat is really your friend.
00:13:30.240 And above all, keep it peaceful, keep it legal, keep it civil.
00:13:34.320 It's a trap, folks.
00:13:35.640 We've already been through it once.
00:13:37.120 If you elect to go to Miami, it is absolutely essential that you do so in an orderly,
00:13:43.600 civil and legal manner.
00:13:45.220 If you intend to go to these rallies, the same is true there.
00:13:49.600 Well, Roger, I think that's exactly right.
00:13:51.260 So myself, Gavin Wax, Vish Burra, others did end up holding a protest for the president
00:13:58.360 outside of the Manhattan courthouse.
00:14:00.540 And it was extremely peaceful.
00:14:01.660 It was very peaceful.
00:14:03.100 That being said, there in Manhattan, hard to get to for a lot of people.
00:14:06.380 I think in Southern Florida, be much easier to build large numbers.
00:14:10.740 If people come, I think they need to do so, as the president told us, peacefully and patriotically.
00:14:16.040 And I would love to see if his campaign were to hold some sort of rally, perhaps even that
00:14:23.220 night, if he's able to, to sort of take that energy, take that pent up anger and then turn
00:14:29.380 it into what I call the MAGA counter-offensive, a display of support, a display of force,
00:14:36.480 a display of political force.
00:14:38.160 Of course, I have to say that for the media matters, guys, a display of patriotism to show
00:14:43.380 them that we are not going to give up this country.
00:14:46.400 We're not going to give up our ideals to this idea that you can just indict your opponent.
00:14:50.400 This is something that you would see in Eastern Europe.
00:14:53.420 Yeah, this is reminiscent of communist Cuba or communist China.
00:14:58.480 I can just tell you, the Cuban-American community, the Venezuelan-American community, people are
00:15:02.820 on fire with their outrage, but they need to temper it.
00:15:06.780 Numbers, we show strength in our numbers.
00:15:09.760 I'd like to see a candlelight visual, to be honest with you.
00:15:13.280 I could see thousands of people in the darkness holding candles to protest this.
00:15:17.900 But it is essential that we mobilize to demonstrate our public support, but we not step into the
00:15:24.560 trap set previously and get some incitement to violence that is then flipped around and
00:15:31.300 used against Trump supporters.
00:15:33.480 I think you're exactly right.
00:15:34.920 And it's imperative that we take that into consideration because we've seen how they've
00:15:39.820 used even loose language on Facebook or private messages and to turn that into some sort of
00:15:46.600 grand overarching conspiracy against the United States.
00:15:50.860 And they will use this because this is who you're dealing with.
00:15:53.380 And you have to be very careful who you're talking to in a MAGA hat.
00:15:56.620 You have to be careful who you're talking to online.
00:15:59.080 We're coming up on a break.
00:16:00.220 Roger, I want to keep you over for one last take on this because I want to get into this
00:16:05.780 real question of Governor DeSantis.
00:16:08.280 Governor DeSantis, do you want to go down like Theon Greyjoy or Jon Snow?
00:16:15.220 Are you going to ride to the defense of this nation or not?
00:16:25.260 All right, and we're back with Roger Stone.
00:16:27.740 Roger, this sets up a very dangerous or I should say risky situation, precarious position for
00:16:36.140 Governor DeSantis.
00:16:37.740 Let's say you're DeSantis right now.
00:16:40.060 You're advising DeSantis right now.
00:16:42.080 How would you play something like this?
00:16:44.620 Let's assume you're staying in the race.
00:16:45.960 I think he wants to be president.
00:16:47.180 I get it.
00:16:47.920 But he wants to play this in a way to try to pick up the MAGA votes while also maintaining
00:16:54.560 his own candidacy.
00:16:55.980 Is it possible to thread that needle?
00:16:58.040 How should he play this?
00:16:59.580 I think it's actually too late.
00:17:01.440 I think that there's a substantial subset of voters both within the Republican Party but
00:17:06.520 also outside the Republican Party, general election voters, who will have an undying
00:17:10.900 enmity for Governor DeSantis based on his disloyalty.
00:17:14.900 Ron DeSantis is not an exceptional talent.
00:17:17.460 Sorry.
00:17:18.160 He only got to the governorship through the tweeted endorsement of Donald J. Trump.
00:17:22.680 Right now, he'd be a former congressman who gave up his seat to run for governor but for
00:17:27.400 Trump.
00:17:28.140 And it's even worse than that because, as you know, once nominated through Trump's
00:17:32.680 endorsement, Trump had to drag him across the finish line by changing his schedule to
00:17:37.640 come to Florida three times in the final weeks of the 2018 campaign.
00:17:42.600 And therefore, there is an underlying distrust among a subset of voters that Ron DeSantis would
00:17:48.980 need to ever become president, whether it's in 2024 or 2028.
00:17:54.100 If I were him, I would fold my tent, I would endorse the president, and I would get back
00:17:59.900 to solving the problems of Florida.
00:18:02.120 By the way, Ron DeSantis took nine and a half million dollars from Florida Power and Light.
00:18:06.720 We just got a 22 percent increase in our electricity bills.
00:18:10.760 If your home was blown away in Hurricane Ian and your home insurance company is offering
00:18:16.680 you pennies on the dollar to replace your roof or maybe replace your entire home, you can
00:18:21.720 no longer sue them because of a bill signed by Governor Ron DeSantis after he took four
00:18:27.260 and a half million dollars from the insurance industry.
00:18:30.000 And on and on and on.
00:18:32.040 This state has serious problems.
00:18:34.000 We elected a good man, I think.
00:18:35.940 I voted for him just five months ago.
00:18:38.220 He's 42 years old.
00:18:39.720 He needs to wait his turn.
00:18:41.860 Right now, the man who can take on the deep state, the man who can end the war in Ukraine,
00:18:47.240 the man who can get America back on track is Donald Trump.
00:18:51.100 Ron DeSantis has no international experience.
00:18:53.740 Donald Trump has, I think, the respect and fear of our adversaries abroad.
00:18:58.500 He needs to get on board right now and call out the outrageousness of what's being done
00:19:03.860 to the president.
00:19:05.820 I think I actually agree with you.
00:19:08.120 I think that if if and I said it before, I'll say it again.
00:19:11.060 Does Governor DeSantis want to go down like Theon Greyjoy or Jon Snow?
00:19:17.340 Do you want to betray the people that helped you out?
00:19:20.260 Or do you want to be the scene as the person riding to their defense?
00:19:23.780 I think it would ultimately benefit him, maybe not in this particular race, but long down 0.99
00:19:29.400 the line that people would remember that he took a stand, that he turned down something
00:19:33.720 because, look, he's looking for it seems to me that he's looking for a free pass to a
00:19:39.800 free victory in the primary.
00:19:42.220 This idea that somehow all of these convictions will lead to President Trump being knocked off
00:19:47.900 of the ballot and then you sort of win by default.
00:19:51.060 Look, in pro wrestling, they would say to to be the man, you got to beat the man.
00:19:55.960 And if you don't beat him fair and square, I don't see how that 35 by his own campaign's
00:20:02.160 admission, 35 percent of people are only Trump voters.
00:20:05.400 So if that's true, how are you ever going to get those people to come out for you if
00:20:09.340 by by this process you've been made the nominee by default?
00:20:13.700 It just it beggars disbelief.
00:20:16.340 In 1964, the Republican Party nominated Mr.
00:20:19.800 Conservative Barry Goldwater for president.
00:20:22.700 The rhinos of that day, Nelson Rockefeller, George Romney, its father, Bill Scranton, they 0.96
00:20:28.640 all took a powder.
00:20:29.560 They left.
00:20:30.160 They wouldn't endorse him.
00:20:30.960 They wouldn't campaign with him.
00:20:32.800 Richard Nixon plotting a future race for president campaigned more vigorously for Barry Goldwater
00:20:38.940 than Goldwater did for himself.
00:20:41.000 Four years later, when conservatives and Reagan had to choose between Nixon and Reagan, you
00:20:46.080 know what they said?
00:20:47.080 Good old Richard Nixon, man.
00:20:48.480 He was with us when the chips were down and he made the greatest single comeback in political
00:20:52.880 history.
00:20:53.700 Ron DeSantis has a unique opportunity here to stand up and be counted, do the right thing.
00:20:59.420 And he will be the nominee in four years.
00:21:01.760 But to to to continue his candidacy makes him Benedict DeSantis.
00:21:07.100 By the way, Roger, one one piece of I'm sure, you know, this political trivia, but one of
00:21:13.380 the organizations or I should say institutions at the time that came out very strongly for
00:21:19.520 Goldwater all the way back in 1963 was, of course, Human Events magazine, the very same
00:21:26.800 human events that we are now attempting or I should say we have resurrected and brought back
00:21:32.060 into the political forefront to maintain that same populist American grassroots voice at
00:21:38.720 the national level.
00:21:40.040 Jack, you cannot understand the importance of human events unless you were alive in that
00:21:43.940 time.
00:21:44.340 When I was working for for Ronald Reagan in 19, actually, all the way back to the Nixon days,
00:21:49.600 it was a rightward pressure on the Nixon administration.
00:21:52.740 It was a seminal publication in the 76 and 80 Reagan campaigns.
00:21:58.800 Everybody got their human events as soon as it was published.
00:22:02.180 It really was an opinion leader on the American right.
00:22:05.740 So I'm so delighted to be here today.
00:22:07.580 And the way you have revived it is truly historic.
00:22:10.900 Along with National Review, it is one of the most important conservative organs of all time.
00:22:16.520 Well, we're certainly hoping that that the you know, the establishment can have National
00:22:20.520 Review, and I think that the people can have human events.
00:22:24.340 Roger, where can people follow you?
00:22:25.680 Where can people keep up with all your analysis?
00:22:28.260 You're right about that.
00:22:29.100 National Review has wandered far from their origins, whereas human events has remained
00:22:33.020 a constant and a periodical of principle.
00:22:38.120 People can see me at StoneZone.Live every day at five o'clock, StoneZone.Live, where I do
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00:23:08.880 Roger, thank you so much for being on.
00:23:10.540 Thank you for your time.
00:23:11.540 As always, we'll have to get you more on to give us the twists and turns, as only you
00:23:15.840 know, the man who's actually been there in the arena from day one himself, Roger Stone.
00:23:21.120 God bless.
00:23:22.100 Thanks, Jack.
00:23:23.020 God bless you.
00:23:24.540 You know, I can't recommend more Roger's book on JFK.
00:23:28.640 I read that when I was still in the Navy, and I was on deployment, and I was in the bowels
00:23:36.160 of the USS Blue Ridge, and I read that book, I would say cover to cover, but I was actually
00:23:42.480 reading it on a Kindle, right?
00:23:43.720 So, you know, because you can't take too many books, and you're in the old sea locker.
00:23:47.260 So, I was reading it on a Kindle, and I just sat there, and every minute I had, whether
00:23:51.740 I was in the galley, if I was getting food, I was getting chow, if I was on break, I was
00:23:56.380 reading that book.
00:23:57.580 I could not put it down.
00:24:00.040 We did a fantastic interview with Roger a few months ago on this.
00:24:03.300 You can find it in the Human Events back catalog, who killed JFK.
00:24:08.360 Now, we are going to go next.
00:24:09.920 Tiffany Justice, another person, an organization that the regime has in their crosshairs.
00:24:15.460 Stay tuned.
00:24:15.780 We'll be right back with her.
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00:25:42.480 Folks, we have a guest that I've been meaning to get on for a very long time, and I've been
00:25:47.280 remiss to have not had her on since, that we've talked to her many, many times when I've
00:25:53.180 been co-hosting or guest hosting on The War Room.
00:25:55.500 That is Tiffany Justice of The Moms for Liberty.
00:25:59.740 She has an incredible event that's going to be coming up right in my own backyard, Philadelphia,
00:26:06.820 Pennsylvania.
00:26:07.880 It's at the end of the month, at the end of June, beginning of July, so Independence Day
00:26:13.740 weekend, essentially, right there in Philadelphia, The Moms for Liberty.
00:26:18.180 Tiffany Justice, you guys are out there.
00:26:20.560 You're changing the world, and yet the regime is coming after you.
00:26:23.620 What's going on?
00:26:25.500 Well, it appears that parental rights are quite the threat to a lot of people that are in
00:26:30.260 power right now, and Moms for Liberty, you know, stands for parental rights. 1.00
00:26:34.740 Our mission statement is to unify, educate, and empower parents to defend their parental rights
00:26:39.060 at all levels of government.
00:26:40.020 And that looks a lot like right now being targeted by, it seems, the Biden administration and
00:26:46.920 some of their friends.
00:26:48.900 Well, that's exactly right, because this organization, the Southern Poverty Law Center, they exist
00:26:54.080 as, in terms of a business model, by targeting particularly upper class, you know, upper to
00:27:01.580 middle class families on the left.
00:27:05.900 There are these Joy Reid watchers, Rachel Maddow, Jake Tapper, drinking the wine out of
00:27:11.580 the box.
00:27:12.820 And they say, oh, there's, you know, hate is on the rise.
00:27:15.680 Hate is on the rise.
00:27:16.580 Well, the problem is, when they've already gotten rid of the KKK, when they've already
00:27:20.720 gotten rid of actual hate groups, then what they do is they have to start moving the chains
00:27:24.520 or else they're not going to be able to raise any more money from those sane individuals,
00:27:28.220 those mailers, et cetera, et cetera.
00:27:29.680 And so they even had to kick out their own founder, Morris Dees, because of his own racism
00:27:34.960 and sexism and bigotry and insanity that he was pushing.
00:27:38.020 But of course, the grift continues. 0.67
00:27:39.820 And now they're labeling Christians.
00:27:41.780 They're labeling conservatives.
00:27:43.800 They're, and now even the moms as some type of domestic extremist. 1.00
00:27:48.580 And the goal here with this, by the way, and we push it down.
00:27:53.300 But the goal here, by the way, is that they used to in this country.
00:27:56.560 And I'm so glad to see the, the, the pushback on this, because their goal is to go then to
00:28:02.380 PayPal, to Venmo, to Stripe, to Square and say, you know what, you can't do business with
00:28:08.120 these guys.
00:28:08.700 Look, we put them on a list.
00:28:10.980 Have you faced any issues with payment processing, donations, these type of things in the wake
00:28:15.460 of this?
00:28:16.840 Yeah, we have faced some issues with PayPal a couple months ago, and Governor DeSantis
00:28:22.680 held a press conference.
00:28:24.380 We were able to speak out about it, and it seemed like they freed up the funds.
00:28:27.600 We have not had any issue this time.
00:28:29.860 I have to be honest, Jack.
00:28:30.920 I really feel like they've gone too far this time.
00:28:34.600 I think that America is watching as, you know, moms and, and other, these other groups are
00:28:39.460 being targeted.
00:28:40.680 We watch, you know, where would they get this idea of domestic terrorists?
00:28:43.560 Well, from the Department of Justice.
00:28:45.180 We saw that the NSBA worked with the Biden administration.
00:28:48.120 And then the Department of Justice turned and called parents, domestic terrorists.
00:28:52.600 I testified in front of the Constitution and limited government subcommittee regarding
00:28:57.500 the weaponization of the FBI against American parents.
00:29:00.780 And now we have what looks like the Southern Poverty Law Center having a meeting with the
00:29:06.380 Biden administration on January 6th of this year.
00:29:09.240 And what do you know, this, you know, report comes out.
00:29:12.160 And so I'm sure that the intention is to try to cancel us or dox us, but we will not be
00:29:17.220 stopped.
00:29:18.120 And we're going to go ahead and have this summit in Philadelphia and rock the cradle of liberty
00:29:22.000 because we're not taking any stars off the American flag.
00:29:25.140 And we're going to start fighting for these cities where we know parents want to defend
00:29:29.040 their parental rights.
00:29:31.220 Tiffany, tell us more about the event.
00:29:33.140 I know we only have a couple of minutes with you left.
00:29:34.600 Yeah, it was, it's going to be an amazing event.
00:29:38.180 So Philadelphia, June 29th through July 2nd, we're at the Marriott downtown.
00:29:44.080 We have President Trump speaking, Governor DeSantis is coming, Vivek Ramaswamy, Nikki Haley,
00:29:49.660 Dennis Prager, Mark Robinson, some amazing, amazing, amazing main stage speakers, and a panel
00:29:56.620 with some of the best and brightest education leaders across the United States right now.
00:30:01.060 Ellen Weaver, state superintendent in South Carolina, Manny Diaz from Florida, Jacob Oliva
00:30:05.980 from Arkansas, newly appointed by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and then Ryan Walters in Oklahoma working
00:30:11.620 under Governor Stitt.
00:30:12.960 We'll do a panel talking about the future of education.
00:30:15.840 And then there's going to be breakout sessions.
00:30:17.300 There's 18 different breakout sessions that people can go to.
00:30:21.140 So, Jack, it's all about really giving parents the resources and tools they need, right, equipping
00:30:26.200 these moms to be able to, you know, unify their communities, educate their chapter members 0.86
00:30:32.580 and others in their community about issues, and then hopefully empower them to make change
00:30:36.000 happen.
00:30:37.360 Look, I got to tell you, as a conservative out of the Philly area, as now a father, I am
00:30:43.420 so glad that you chose Philadelphia for this because we have to go back to the birthplace
00:30:47.820 of liberty where it all started.
00:30:49.260 Yes, sir.
00:30:51.180 Yes, sir.
00:30:51.660 And so we'll have our opening night at the Revolutionary War Museum, and that's going
00:30:56.400 to be fantastic.
00:30:57.540 And you're right.
00:30:58.520 You know, we need to start fighting for America.
00:31:02.080 God bless you, Tiffany.
00:31:04.780 Go to momsforliberty.org.
00:31:07.860 God bless you, Tiffany.
00:31:09.160 God bless your fight.
00:31:11.000 We are going to be with you.
00:31:12.000 Human events will be with you and all of us, Turning Point, Turning Point Action, et cetera.
00:31:15.840 Every step of the way, we are not going to let them take you down.
00:31:20.120 Nice.
00:31:20.600 Thanks, Jack.
00:31:21.120 We really appreciate the support.
00:31:23.280 God bless.
00:31:24.060 Look, folks, Philadelphia, right?
00:31:26.260 You know, I have such a love-hate relationship because, you know, you see what it's turned
00:31:31.040 into, but at the same time, you know, going to Independence Hall, going to the Franklin
00:31:34.960 Institute on every single field trip as a kid.
00:31:38.480 Tanya Tay and I, we got engaged at Valley Forge.
00:31:41.080 We got married right at a church at Valley Forge.
00:31:44.380 This is the true birthplace of our nation.
00:31:47.400 It's the birthplace of liberty itself, and we need to start fighting.
00:31:52.260 We need to actually start taking the fight back politically to the people that have stolen
00:31:58.120 our cities, that have stolen our country, that are trying to steal our republic. 0.59
00:32:02.260 Go back to where the republic itself started.
00:32:04.200 Folks, we have a bombshell interview.
00:32:06.620 Marjorie Taylor Greene, straight from the skiff to human events, is going to tell us everything
00:32:12.120 that is in these documents on Biden.
00:32:19.380 All right.
00:32:20.120 We're very excited and thrilled to have Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who joins us today.
00:32:26.120 Congresswoman, you've been making incredible news this week, really exposing and blowing
00:32:32.800 apart, I think, the final piece of the Burisma case for us that we've been talking about for
00:32:39.880 years at this point, but everybody's always been looking for the smoking gun.
00:32:45.100 You go into the skiff after finally putting pressure, along with the Speaker, the rest of
00:32:50.080 the House, on the FBI, you go into the skiff, you get to see the smoking gun, and on the very day
00:32:56.140 you reveal it to the public, they indict President Trump.
00:33:00.680 Congresswoman, what is going on?
00:33:03.520 Well, it's exactly what you said, and Jack, you've been one of the many that have been right all along,
00:33:09.940 so I just want you to know you've been vindicated, you've been trying to tell the truth
00:33:14.040 the American people, and it's been our agencies, and the FBI specifically have hidden it from
00:33:21.480 the American people, and so yesterday, you know, after a month, we've been going back
00:33:26.920 and forth with the FBI, we subpoenaed Christopher Wray in a specific FD-1023 form, which I want
00:33:34.600 everyone to know is an unclassified form, it's not classified, but the FBI wouldn't even admit
00:33:41.280 it existed in the beginning, until they figured out they had no choice, we have a whistleblower
00:33:47.920 that had already shown us a copy of it, so we know exactly what's on the form, and finally,
00:33:54.080 Christopher Wray started cooperating with us, because we were going to hold him to Congress
00:33:59.080 yesterday, so he allowed all of the Oversight Committee to start looking at the form yesterday,
00:34:04.620 and I happened to be in there right from the beginning, and what I did is,
00:34:11.280 they didn't want us to have the form, they haven't given us possession, because they're
00:34:15.060 still trying to protect Joe Biden, and not let the country know what the form said, but I took notes
00:34:21.980 inside the SCIF, and I wrote down everything that the document said, it's unclassified, and then I took
00:34:28.820 my notes, and they wouldn't let me take my notes out of the SCIF, so I filed them in a file in the SCIF,
00:34:34.840 so, and then I left, and I wrote down everything from memory, because it was easy to remember,
00:34:41.760 because I just read it multiple times, and had taken notes, and I wrote down and made detailed
00:34:46.760 notes, and then I walked out and told the press conference everything that I had read, because
00:34:53.020 I'm appalled that America is not allowed to have this information that tells specifically about Hunter
00:35:01.060 Biden and Joe Biden each taking separately $5 million payments, so that's a total of $10 million,
00:35:08.200 but $5 million went to Hunter Biden, $5 million went to Joe Biden when he was Vice President of the
00:35:13.900 United States in order for him to put pressure on Ukraine by withholding $1 billion in USAID
00:35:20.680 and getting the prosecutor, Victor Shokin, fired, so that he wouldn't investigate Burisma anymore.
00:35:29.120 Well, and this is exactly what, again, people forget that when President Trump called Zelensky,
00:35:36.020 it's amazing, by the way, how Zelensky and Ukraine are right at the center of all of these different
00:35:40.000 things, that when he called him, he was asking if Zelensky could look into this situation as well,
00:35:46.840 but it wasn't predicated off of some, you know, some rumor or some internet thing. It was that Joe
00:35:53.120 Biden went and publicly bragged about getting the prosecutor fired in public. That's where this all
00:36:00.220 started from Joe Biden's own mouth. That's right. He did it publicly on camera, and then there's also
00:36:07.620 a recording of him on a phone call talking about the USAID money, and they let him know on the phone
00:36:15.420 call that Victor Shokin has been fired, and he replies, good, very good. And then it's on that
00:36:21.100 phone call he releases USAID money. There's more evidence of Joe Biden committing crimes, and this
00:36:27.880 is real criminal behavior, which is terrifying. As vice president, he not only took bribe money
00:36:35.760 in exchange for foreign policy decisions, but he got paid $5 million doing it, and that's what this
00:36:43.920 1023 form outlines, but I got to tell you something else, Jack. The 1023 also references
00:36:51.700 two other 1023 forms, so there's more forms about the Bidens, and next week, Chairman Comer and the
00:37:00.840 minority linking member, Congressman Raskin, will be going in to look at the two additional 1023 forms,
00:37:08.080 and today we sent out Sabina's subpoenas to two more banks to get bank records and statements in
00:37:16.540 relationship with Ukraine. So we feel like we are on the trail to something to expose the real evidence
00:37:24.680 of these Biden crimes, and that is why they are cranking up the heat, going after President Trump,
00:37:32.120 indicting him because he's their top political enemy, and Jack, everyone needs to really be scared
00:37:38.580 of this. They should be very concerned. Their intention is to put President Trump in jail.
00:37:46.960 Well, I think you're exactly right, and when people look at this, when you go to Article 2,
00:37:51.600 Section 4 of the Constitution, it specifically says, we all know in the impeachment clause,
00:37:56.100 it says high crimes and misdemeanors, but right before that, it says treason or bribery. Bribery
00:38:02.800 was specifically delineated by the founding fathers in the impeachment statute of the U.S. Constitution
00:38:11.200 as an impeachable offense because they knew how dangerous it was for our nation.
00:38:17.200 Oh, yeah, it's so dangerous, but this 23 form is so detailed. The FBI told us that this informant
00:38:30.060 that that filled out form is actually their top informant. This is the informant they consider
00:38:35.700 to be their most credible paid informant, and the information is in chronological order on this form.
00:38:44.180 The date is June 30, 2020, but it details out a storyline of multiple conversations
00:38:51.180 between the CHS, which is the informant, and the oligarch from Burisma, and it goes all the way
00:38:59.780 back to 2015 and 2016, and it's really interesting, the details that are provided in the 1023 form.
00:39:06.660 One of the details that was so interesting was the oligarch that owns Burisma brags to the informant
00:39:16.060 in such an interesting way, says that it'll take 10 years for the U.S., that's us, to find
00:39:25.060 all the bank statements and wire transfers of these payments to buy in the past 10 years.
00:39:34.460 Well, look at what Republicans on oversight have been able to do in less than six months,
00:39:39.660 Jack, and I really believe God is on our side with this one.
00:39:44.440 I think you're exactly right. We're coming up on a quick break. Let me take that. We're going to work
00:39:48.840 on getting the signal back up. We are on with Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene. She is
00:39:54.620 explaining to us this bombshell information. Multiple meetings with an FBI informant. The
00:40:01.340 top informant came out on the heels of the Biden investigation meeting with the oligarch in charge
00:40:09.140 of Burisma in Ukraine. Stay tuned. Human Events comes back.
00:40:17.140 And we're back here. Human Events. Congressman Marjorie Taylor Greene responding to the indictment
00:40:22.120 of President Trump, but also detailing for us these conversations between a highly paid,
00:40:29.140 highly placed, high P&A placement and access, we would say, in the biz, informant working directly
00:40:36.100 with the oligarch in charge of Burisma, who then turned around, hired Hunter Biden. We know put
00:40:43.780 Hunter Biden on that board. We're now hearing, was bragging that he was giving a $5 million payment
00:40:50.140 to Hunter, another $5 million payment to his father, Joe Biden, to get this prosecutor, Victor
00:40:56.760 Shokin, fired. Of course, we know that in the past, Biden was bragging about this. Where we left,
00:41:03.100 Congresswoman, you were telling us that there are more forms that the FBI has. This, this operation
00:41:09.980 was, was run over a period of, it looks like almost, we're looking at almost a decade here at this
00:41:15.280 point. Oh yeah, absolutely. And this is, this is why it's imperative that Christopher Wright keep
00:41:23.140 cooperating with us. And he is cooperating because he knows his days are numbered. We, the polling is
00:41:30.120 there, President Trump will win and no one can deny it. The Democrats are actually terrified.
00:41:35.560 And this is why they're ramping up their fake investigations or fake charges and actually
00:41:41.120 charging President Trump with outrageous crime that their Democrat leaders are actually guilty of
00:41:47.020 themselves. And, but the form, the 1023 form I read yesterday, pulled of two other 1023 forms.
00:41:54.700 And so next week, Chairman Comer and Congressman Raskin will be going in and reading those two
00:42:00.720 forms. And then our two subpoenas, uh, to bank, to banks involving, uh, bank statements and bank
00:42:07.040 accounts, uh, with Ukraine, we sent those out today. Um, so we are going to keep tracking this
00:42:13.020 information down, but here's something else that everyone really needs to know. The, the oligarch for
00:42:18.660 Ukraine, uh, the informant, uh, they were having many conversations and that's what's on this 1023
00:42:25.580 form. And one of them is the informant explains that in Russia and Ukraine, it's just commonplace
00:42:32.340 practice and business that, that bribes take place. As a matter of fact, businessmen and anyone starting
00:42:38.920 a business or buying a business or making a business deal includes in their budgets, extra money
00:42:44.840 for bribes. So it's normal for them. It's so normal. It's, it's not really that illegal. It's
00:42:51.060 just normal. But in America, obviously that's illegal. And like you said, our constitution
00:42:55.840 outlines that is an, an impeachable offense, bribery. And so for the oligarch, this was normal.
00:43:03.920 He was paying a bribe to the vice president of the United States because Joe Biden as vice president
00:43:10.380 had the ability to get Victor Shokin fired, who was targeting him and prosecuting, investigating to
00:43:17.080 prosecute Burisma. But here's the other interesting thing. After he mentions bribery being commonplace,
00:43:24.260 the oligarch that owns Burisma bragged to the informant and says, it'll take them talking about us in the
00:43:32.220 United States, 10 years to find all the bank records and wire transfers and bank statements with the
00:43:38.960 Bidens. He's bragging about it because the Bidens do this so much and there's so much information out
00:43:46.740 there to find. And I want to tell you, Jack, that it didn't take us 10 years. It took us less than six
00:43:52.500 months, but we have over 2,300 pages of SARS reports in the treasury. We have up to 12 banks we have
00:44:00.840 subpoenaed. We have so many bank statements and wire transfers where money was wire transferred from
00:44:06.680 foreign countries into fake LLCs, dozens and dozens of fake LLCs, and then payments from these fake LLCs
00:44:14.860 and shell companies to so many Biden family members. So the oligarch that owns Burisma was right about
00:44:22.720 one part that there were so many bank records and statements and wire transfers. But what he was wrong
00:44:29.140 about is it's not going to take us 10 years. We are doing it in less than six months and we need more
00:44:34.600 time and we are getting no cooperation, hardly any cooperation from the FBI because they won't let
00:44:41.580 us hold possession of these unclassified 1023s. I mean, this is some of the most shocking information
00:44:49.500 that we've heard because, and it seems to me, it really does seem to me that if, if they did not
00:44:56.060 indict, if they had not indicted President Trump this week, that what you're saying right now would be
00:45:02.000 the lead on every single newspaper out there. And yet, of course they can't because they've now
00:45:07.860 placed this cover story, this distraction directly on top of it. Do you believe that's why they rushed
00:45:13.440 to indict President Trump this week? Oh, absolutely. If we were a just nation, if our laws really
00:45:20.780 mattered, they would be hauling Joe Biden out of the White House in handcuffs. We would be seeing that
00:45:26.380 all over the news. And, and I want to add on about the last piece of the 1023 form, which I find very
00:45:32.620 interesting because bribes are so commonplace and it's a part of business and I own a business. So I
00:45:39.060 understand business records. You always keep your accounts and receivables. You always keep your,
00:45:45.300 your payables and receivables. You keep it all because you need that for taxes and so on. Well,
00:45:50.660 the last thing mentioned on the 1023 form is the oligarch that owns Burisma tells the informant
00:45:56.680 that he, this is after he says he's unhappy President Trump won. He's unhappy because he lost
00:46:03.400 his most powerful connection, which was Joe Biden. But this is really interesting. He says that he kept
00:46:11.680 two pieces of evidence showing that he paid not only Hunter Biden, but that he paid Joe Biden. He kept the
00:46:18.960 evidence and anyone that understands what that means. You have to get it. If you're in a, if you're in a
00:46:26.200 country where bribery is commonplace, the only way to make sure the people you're bribing come through
00:46:31.700 on your bribes is you hold the evidence and the proof that you bribed them. And so that oligarch that
00:46:39.000 owns Burisma told the informant that he kept two pieces of evidence proving that he paid Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
00:46:46.340 And he's, who knows where this guy is over it with everything that's going on in Ukraine,
00:46:51.840 the money that's going through. It'd be interesting to see which companies are getting this money that's
00:46:56.200 going through. Congressman, we are up against the end of the show. We have to have you back on as
00:47:01.260 this investigation continues. God bless you for your yeoman's work on this. Thank you so much.
00:47:07.400 Where can people go to follow you? People can follow me on, on any of my social media and,
00:47:13.260 and Jack, I'll make sure that I can bring back all the information that I can continue
00:47:17.380 to get in this, in this investigation, because I believe the entire country deserves to know.
00:47:24.320 Well, I believe you're right. And, and, and what you're talking about is not, uh, these,
00:47:28.700 you know, these paper filing, uh, mishandling, et cetera, et cetera. Oh, he misfiled this.
00:47:33.520 He misfiled that. No, you're talking about actual high crimes and misdemeanors,
00:47:37.700 the bribery of the vice president, potentially destabilizing our country, potentially destabilizing
00:47:44.680 Ukraine, sending them in on a collision course for war with Russia that we've now seen, which
00:47:51.320 has been completely disastrous. This is what the regime is doing. The globalist American empire that
00:47:57.900 we've been telling you about for years, folks. Now it is time for the MAGA counter-offensive ladies and 1.00
00:48:05.220 gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.