Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - EPISODE 517： THE DEATH OF MIKE PENCE'S POLITICAL CAREER

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00:01:27.160 They're still going to have a long border with Russia.

00:01:28.940 They're still going to have needs.

00:01:30.320 And he was able to make President Zelensky understand just how committed the United States is to the long term,

00:01:35.740 both in terms of their security, but also in terms of their eventual membership in NATO.

00:01:40.440 But we want to make sure that Ukraine has what it needs to be able to continue the fight.

00:01:45.660 While that expansion is taking place, these cluster munitions act as kind of a bridging capability.

00:01:53.940 I think his whole testimony shows the FBI is actually broken under his leadership.

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00:02:00.260 I don't own a private jet.

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00:02:27.480 I don't think it's satisfactory to the American people that drugs could get into the White House.

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00:02:33.740 It's not a Biden administration issue.

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00:03:05.480 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events, live with Jack Posovic.

00:03:11.260 Today is July 14th, 2023, Anno Domini.

00:03:14.460 And today we're joined by the great Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief of Human Events and

00:03:20.060 the Post Millennial.

00:03:21.600 Something that just happened, incredible.

00:03:24.200 Mike Pence, his career, I think it might be over.

00:03:28.160 We have to play this clip.

00:03:30.200 Let's play it.

00:03:31.140 We'll leave the mics open, but let's just play it in its entirety for the audience to

00:03:35.340 hear this right now.

00:03:36.340 You can hear our live reaction moments ago.

00:03:39.280 You are distressed.

00:03:40.620 You are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks.

00:03:45.520 Every city in the United States has become much worse over the past three years.

00:03:50.800 Drive around.

00:03:51.780 There's not one city that's gotten better in the United States.

00:03:54.700 And it's visible.

00:03:56.580 Our economy has degraded.

00:03:58.480 The suicide rate has jumped.

00:04:00.420 Public filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased.

00:04:05.480 And yet, your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find on a map, who've

00:04:11.360 received tens of billions of U.S. tax dollars, don't have enough tanks.

00:04:15.340 I think it's a fair question to ask.

00:04:16.980 Like, where's the concern for the United States in that?

00:04:19.300 Well, it's not my concern.

00:04:22.300 Tucker, I've heard that routine from you before, but that's not my concern.

00:04:26.460 I'm running for president of the United States because I think this country's in a lot of

00:04:29.620 trouble.

00:04:29.720 Just pause right there.

00:04:30.540 Pause right there.

00:04:31.220 Pause right there.

00:04:32.480 Libby, I listened to this ten times.

00:04:36.600 Yes, me too.

00:04:37.320 Because I was going to write the transcript, and I was on Twitter, on the computer, I was

00:04:41.900 going to write the transcript out, and I said, did he say not my concern?

00:04:46.880 He said failing American cities are not his concern.

00:04:50.760 Because I thought, and I'm sitting there thinking, all right, is this a live event?

00:04:56.080 Is this, did he misspeak?

00:04:58.220 What's going on?

00:04:58.580 And then he repeats it.

00:04:59.740 Yeah, he repeats it.

00:05:00.080 He repeats it.

00:05:01.120 Because he means it.

00:05:02.020 He said, that's not my concern.

00:05:04.000 Yeah.

00:05:04.240 And then I said, okay, clearly he misspoke.

00:05:06.080 He's going to correct himself.

00:05:07.180 Let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

00:05:08.360 Tucker, I've heard this routine before, and that's not my, he keeps sniffling.

00:05:14.820 What are you implying there, Tucker?

00:05:16.280 He's trying to actually suck the air out of the room so Tucker can't speak because he's

00:05:21.440 that terrified of being tucked live on stage.

00:05:23.720 And Tucker just ends him.

00:05:24.820 He ends him with his own words.

00:05:26.860 Right.

00:05:27.200 That's not my concern.

00:05:29.900 Right.

00:05:30.140 Mike Pence's career is over.

00:05:32.740 Mike Pence will never hold public office again in the United States.

00:05:36.160 Maybe like local dog catcher or something.

00:05:38.940 How do you tell people that you're not concerned for their well-being?

00:05:43.140 Yeah, I don't know.

00:05:44.100 They're trying to be their leader.

00:05:45.180 This is a man who was vice president of the United States.

00:05:47.720 This is a man who wants to lead the country.

00:05:49.720 And he's way more interested in what's happening in Eastern Europe than he is in what's happening

00:05:54.540 in America's own cities.

00:05:56.280 Most people in the U.S. live in cities.

00:05:59.100 You know, we have a huge city population.

00:06:00.540 We see the failure of these cities.

00:06:02.440 We've seen it firsthand.

00:06:03.940 Americans care about where they live.

00:06:05.520 They don't care even half as much about what's going on in some far off place, which, as

00:06:10.660 Tucker correctly pointed out, due to our incredibly poor educational system, hardly anyone could

00:06:15.320 even find it on a map.

00:06:16.480 Look, I'll ask.

00:06:18.760 The fly was right. 0.97

00:06:20.160 All right.

00:06:20.500 The fly was right. 0.97

00:06:22.360 You remember the fly?

00:06:23.320 I remember the fly.

00:06:24.140 With the comments debate.

00:06:25.100 And the fly knew something.

00:06:28.120 I'm sorry.

00:06:29.660 I'm sorry.

00:06:30.380 I apologize to the fly.

00:06:32.900 I apologize to the fly right now.

00:06:36.160 The fly was right. 0.97

00:06:37.300 You tried to warn us.

00:06:38.440 We didn't listen.

00:06:40.000 Yeah.

00:06:40.160 Why didn't we listen to the fly?

00:06:42.880 Why didn't we try to warn us?

00:06:44.940 Yeah.

00:06:45.240 He doesn't.

00:06:45.700 We don't.

00:06:46.100 I don't speak fly.

00:06:46.940 I don't speak fly.

00:06:47.820 Yeah.

00:06:48.080 We just don't speak fly.

00:06:48.980 All right.

00:06:49.140 We're coming up on a break, but this is just it's so unbelievable.

00:06:52.860 He torched himself like a Buddhist monk.

00:06:54.980 This was crazy.

00:06:55.920 I wonder if he even realizes it.

00:06:57.080 We'll be right back.

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00:08:43.600 We've got our next guest is lined up, Libby, one of your favorite guests, one of my favorite

00:08:47.740 guests.

00:08:48.020 But before we have to get into that, I just want to say, I'm actually, I'm going to say

00:08:53.380 this, and I think backwards sometimes.

00:08:54.680 I think sometimes I think sideways, because this is what I'm going to say.

00:08:57.380 I'm glad Mike Pence said this.

00:08:59.620 I'm happy that Mike Pence said this.

00:09:02.080 And let me tell you why.

00:09:03.280 Let's hear it.

00:09:04.420 Because now we have clarity.

00:09:06.220 Now we have clarity.

00:09:07.560 Now we understand.

00:09:09.980 We understand that our politicians know the state of our cities.

00:09:14.680 They know the state of our infrastructure.

00:09:16.720 They know the state of everything falling apart.

00:09:18.860 America is becoming a second world country. 0.74

00:09:21.420 It's happening all around us.

00:09:22.980 It's happening literally all around us.

00:09:25.300 And it's not their concern.

00:09:28.680 And now we have it straight from the horse's mouth.

00:09:31.040 See, that's what happened right there.

00:09:32.620 That Pence, and by the way, he'll try to explain this away.

00:09:35.460 You watch.

00:09:36.080 I predict within the next, within minutes, by the way, if it's probably, if it hasn't

00:09:39.320 happened already, his staff will be out there.

00:09:41.160 We know, no, no.

00:09:41.640 He was saying I was, I was concerned about both.

00:09:44.400 You know, I said, no, no, no, no.

00:09:45.640 Yeah, he didn't say that at all.

00:09:46.860 You said it.

00:09:47.800 You said that's not your concern.

00:09:50.660 The American people are not your concern.

00:09:53.880 Your concern is expanding America's footprint, getting involved with wars overseas, getting

00:09:59.760 involved with the ventures, destabilizing Ukraine to the point where this war was started

00:10:05.040 in the first place, not calling for peace.

00:10:08.040 I could go on.

00:10:08.640 I could go on.

00:10:09.220 I could go on.

00:10:09.720 But someone who I want to go off even more on Mike Pence and also Joe Biden, because

00:10:16.000 as we heard last night, we haven't gotten into it, Libby.

00:10:18.220 Right.

00:10:18.440 We haven't even got into it.

00:10:18.840 But I'll let our guests get into this.

00:10:20.460 3,000 reservists are being deployed to active duty to Eastern Europe directly to the Eastern

00:10:26.920 European theater.

00:10:27.800 That's right.

00:10:28.180 Right on the border with Ukraine.

00:10:29.620 Ladies and gentlemen, the great Peachy Keenan, the domestic extremist author herself, joins

00:10:35.000 us today.

00:10:35.540 Human events.

00:10:36.240 Peachy.

00:10:37.460 Just let me get it.

00:10:38.740 What is your sense of Pence's comments, the Ukraine, this deployment that's going on?

00:10:46.180 Are we finally understanding what's actually going on inside our government?

00:10:49.680 That's my question here.

00:10:51.420 Yeah.

00:10:52.100 I mean, when he says none of this is his concern.

00:10:54.300 Look, I have a concern.

00:10:56.200 And my only concern really going into 2024 are the five concerns I call my children.

00:11:02.560 I have three boys and my oldest is actually turning 18 this year.

00:11:07.120 And so for the last couple of years, ever since Joe Biden, you know, got elected, you

00:11:11.340 know, got elected, I've been concerned about this.

00:11:14.080 And I've been, you know, as they keep escalating the war in Ukraine, I'm getting more and more

00:11:18.280 nervous.

00:11:18.600 Like, is this something I even have to think about?

00:11:21.040 Could they be, you know, he gets his selective service form in the mail.

00:11:24.480 Do I what do I do with that?

00:11:25.740 Do I want to burn it?

00:11:26.740 You know, I don't want him ever or any of his friends or any young American to spend 1.00

00:11:32.040 one second fighting for Ukraine, to spend one second fighting for these objectives that

00:11:37.180 I don't even understand.

00:11:38.840 Mike Pence cannot explain them.

00:11:41.120 You know, when I start hearing a politician talk about we need to project American global

00:11:45.340 power around the world, I want to hide my children.

00:11:48.480 I want to move out of the country.

00:11:50.380 It really is terrifying.

00:11:51.520 And I don't even know what they're sleepwalking us into.

00:11:54.900 But yeah, like you said, it's incredibly great to hear the words come out of their mouth.

00:11:59.460 It provides a lot of clarity.

00:12:02.160 Yeah.

00:12:02.680 And we saw in March 2022 that President Biden said at the time that there would not be U.S.

00:12:08.100 troops on the ground fighting in Ukraine.

00:12:10.440 And each step of the way, he continues to change his mind and say something different.

00:12:15.420 I was also terrified as a mom.

00:12:18.060 And, you know, I talked to my son about it.

00:12:20.040 He's 13.

00:12:20.820 We have five years.

00:12:22.280 And he was like, Mom, is this going to be a thing?

00:12:24.400 And I was like, I really I have no idea.

00:12:26.260 I don't know what could happen.

00:12:27.160 Our recruitment numbers are down.

00:12:30.340 You know, there's a lot of issues to look at.

00:12:32.540 And like you said, there has not been any clear indication as to why we would be going

00:12:37.740 to fight in Ukraine, what our purpose would be.

00:12:40.740 They tell us it's defending democracy, but they literally say that about everything.

00:12:44.480 I'd just like to I'd actually like to commend.

00:12:46.640 I guess I'll commend Mike Pence in a sense here.

00:12:48.760 It's it's a very bold strategy.

00:12:50.640 It's a unique and creative strategy to just straight up tell the American people that you

00:12:55.480 hate them.

00:12:56.100 And you don't care about your concerns.

00:12:58.720 I don't care that your cities are shooting galleries. 0.99

00:13:00.840 We don't care about black on black crime. 1.00

00:13:02.680 We don't care about suicide statistics going up. 0.96

00:13:05.600 We don't care about any of that stuff.

00:13:06.540 What we really care about is war and more of it, especially war with the Russians. 0.89

00:13:11.680 And then Tim Scott, we have the clip later, but I don't even know if we'll play it.

00:13:13.840 But, you know, they asked Tim Scott, they said, you know, Tucker says, why do we need

00:13:17.760 to fight the Russian military?

00:13:19.520 Why do we need to do that?

00:13:20.860 And he said, couldn't we just go for peace?

00:13:22.760 And Tim says, but but how, Tucker?

00:13:24.900 But how?

00:13:25.880 And then Tucker sits there and explains how we're funding the entire war effort, the entire

00:13:30.780 Ukrainian government, not just the military, but the government paying their pensions

00:13:35.060 and sitting there going, like, have you never even considered these things?

00:13:39.960 But you look at I wouldn't say they necessarily ended Tim Scott's career, but potentially he's

00:13:45.160 certainly wounded.

00:13:46.380 Mike Pence has done he I mean, Tucker is a walking cluster munition up there and he's

00:13:51.840 just taking out candidate after candidate, rhetorical bomblets, rhetorical bomblets.

00:13:57.060 Yes.

00:13:57.840 And then we saw Marguerite Taylor Greene yesterday talking about how she believes that it was

00:14:03.340 the Burisma CEO who gave the bribe to Joe Biden.

00:14:07.120 I mean, it clearly was.

00:14:08.300 You know, this is so now we're lining their pockets after they lined everybody's tweeting

00:14:12.480 this stuff.

00:14:13.180 And it's like, come on, are we really acting like these are revelations?

00:14:16.340 We know what was going on here.

00:14:18.300 We have straight up evidence of bribery.

00:14:20.460 That's where this is coming.

00:14:21.320 I'm at this point.

00:14:22.240 Peachy, let me let me tell us it to you.

00:14:24.060 Do we think that Mike Pence is getting a cut?

00:14:26.640 Maybe maybe not.

00:14:27.640 Maybe maybe maybe Joe's the big guy and Pence is the little guy.

00:14:32.300 I mean, what other explanation can there be for all of these GOP candidates who are supposed

00:14:37.660 to be on our side, actively working against the interests of families and their teenage

00:14:42.960 sons?

00:14:43.420 Like, I don't understand.

00:14:44.980 And consigning us all to live among, like you said, the filth and the tense and the crime

00:14:49.480 in our cities.

00:14:50.500 What else could the explanation be?

00:14:52.040 I mean, do they have like dirt on these guys?

00:14:53.660 Like, is there like a guy with a briefcase and eight by 10 glossies of them doing things

00:14:57.460 we don't want to know about?

00:14:58.660 I don't get it.

00:14:59.580 This is so simple.

00:15:01.160 One candidate can just come forward and say definitively, there will never be a draft on

00:15:05.700 my watch.

00:15:06.360 We will never commit American troops on the ground to these places.

00:15:09.740 And it would be so simple.

00:15:10.900 It would be the election would be over.

00:15:14.100 No, I think that's so true.

00:15:15.580 And let's let's get into that, because this is something where I got we were going to play

00:15:20.140 it today, but we ended up getting this this forum wanted to get into that.

00:15:22.980 But five months ago, I posted this pre-creation of Joe Biden talking, basically announcing

00:15:29.660 a draft.

00:15:30.120 Oh, that's right.

00:15:30.640 And I got in so much trouble.

00:15:32.380 Everyone got so mad.

00:15:33.280 And everybody got mad at me.

00:15:34.660 Community noted, et cetera, et cetera.

00:15:36.300 And they said, oh, it's crazy.

00:15:37.260 Joe Biden would never do that.

00:15:38.620 You can't make stuff like that.

00:15:40.060 And then all of a sudden, this order comes out without an announcement from the White 0.64

00:15:43.960 House.

00:15:44.120 Nope.

00:15:44.400 It was just on their website.

00:15:45.780 The order just pops up.

00:15:48.080 Your sons are being deployed.

00:15:50.480 So, I mean, for someone who's out there, let's NPTU, let's let's say throw it to you

00:15:55.460 for someone who's got, you know, teenage kids.

00:15:59.020 What are the moms of America thinking right now when you're where you're hearing the D

00:16:03.400 word, a draft, potentially 18?

00:16:06.380 That's and it's it's I could pull up the list, but it's, you know, the 18 year olds go first.

00:16:10.280 Essentially, they go first.

00:16:12.640 That's right.

00:16:13.720 You know, I was warning friends about this right when Biden got in.

00:16:16.600 I wrote an essay for the American mind trying to warn people like, do not let your sons go

00:16:20.820 in.

00:16:21.020 And there were kids at our school who were joining ROTC, who were joining the academies.

00:16:25.580 And I was like, oh, you know, I'm a little worried about them.

00:16:28.400 But these parents, a lot of them are still under the living under this sort of like 1980s

00:16:32.280 Reagan kind of fantasy of what our military is.

00:16:35.120 But then we had the you know, when the the the stand down when they wanted to go through

00:16:40.520 all the ranks and find out who all the domestic extremists were.

00:16:44.320 And my brother in law was a reservist and he was telling me what they were forcing him

00:16:48.400 to go through.

00:16:50.000 So it was very clear that, you know, the military themselves were considered the enemy to our

00:16:54.980 government.

00:16:55.920 And so it was always obvious, like you would never send your child to be there to be to

00:17:01.000 work for people, to defend a country that hates you, a government that hates you.

00:17:05.320 DOD that is looking to kind of arrest you if you have the wrong conservative beliefs and

00:17:10.080 you're a service member.

00:17:11.800 So, yeah, my kids are you just they were just never going to do it.

00:17:14.980 And the fact that they would just so blithely pull up, we're 3,000, you know, reservists.

00:17:21.780 Like, why are we already going to reservists?

00:17:24.400 Like, we don't have enough active duty guys.

00:17:28.100 And I mean, yeah, our recruiting is in the toilet.

00:17:30.520 And for obvious reasons, these career military families, these traditionally where, you know,

00:17:36.160 I think 60 percent or something or more of the military infantry has been drawn from these 0.85

00:17:41.180 families where the grandpa served and the father served.

00:17:43.440 It's like a family business.

00:17:44.820 They're now telling their kids, do not fight for these people.

00:17:48.040 I would not fight.

00:17:49.420 I would not commit one American to fight or get hurt or die for anyone in our government

00:17:55.020 right now.

00:17:55.520 And that's a sad place to be.

00:17:56.800 I'm a patriotic woman.

00:17:58.420 I was raised to love this country.

00:18:00.940 And it's just it's hard because we don't even know where what what what we stand for

00:18:04.260 anymore.

00:18:04.720 We stand for sending money to Zelensky like and propping up this puppet state. 1.00

00:18:12.240 You know, if it was a case of people were invading our shores and like coming down, you know,

00:18:15.840 Sunset Boulevard here in Los Angeles that we had to fight for our lives, that's a different

00:18:19.240 case.

00:18:19.700 But they just seem to be inventing these fake wars for for that to keep them keep the money,

00:18:25.340 keep the keep the money flowing into their accounts.

00:18:27.400 I mean, I was so hopeful after we pulled out of Afghanistan. 1.00

00:18:30.120 I was like, OK, we're done.

00:18:32.960 You know, we're coming on a quick break, but I do want to get you on after this.

00:18:36.900 I mean, it's it's it's crazy, by the way.

00:18:38.940 And I have to ask you that question.

00:18:40.280 Why was it that it feels like this got turned on right after the Afghanistan withdrawal?

00:18:46.660 Isn't it amazing?

00:18:48.000 We stop Afghanistan. 1.00

00:18:49.120 We wind everything down.

00:18:50.320 And just after the 20 years of that ends, boom, another one starts.

00:18:54.160 It's kind of funny how that works.

00:18:55.960 There are no conspiracies, but there are coincidences.

00:19:01.360 I encourage people to if you're interested in foreign policy, you got to follow Jack.

00:19:05.840 So, like.

00:19:09.880 All right, we're back.

00:19:11.080 Jack Pasovic in with human events.

00:19:13.360 We've got Libby Emmons.

00:19:14.200 We've got PG Keenan.

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00:21:07.840 I'd love if we, so let me, let me, let me, let me go through this a little bit more with

00:21:12.580 you, PG Boom.

00:21:13.640 We kind of got cut off because you brought up the great insight, though, that it was Afghanistan 1.00

00:21:20.180 for 20 years, where all the military-age males of the United States would go there, go there,

00:21:24.920 go there.

00:21:25.840 And then you thought that it had ended.

00:21:29.260 You thought that it wound down, that we weren't going to have it anymore.

00:21:32.960 And then suddenly we're back into it.

00:21:34.980 Why is that?

00:21:36.240 Why did that happen just a few months later?

00:21:38.560 Yeah, it's pretty amazing how that happened.

00:21:42.900 It seemed like, I was so thrilled at the time, like, oh, finally, the money spigots are off.

00:21:47.380 We can now divert our resources to where they need to go.

00:21:50.500 They need to rebuild these cities.

00:21:51.660 They need to go back into American people, American infrastructure, build factories where 1.00

00:21:56.500 we can all get jobs.

00:21:57.780 And instead, it really did feel like overnight they conjured up this new war.

00:22:02.540 And I think I totally agree with Donald Trump.

00:22:05.140 I think that if he'd been president, not a single person on either side would have died.

00:22:09.560 And now what we're doing is willfully, voluntarily committing all of us to some another 20-year

00:22:15.620 engagement.

00:22:16.300 Where does this end?

00:22:17.440 If it goes nuclear, it'll be about 20 minutes.

00:22:21.140 But there's so many easy ways out of this.

00:22:24.340 Like, it makes no sense.

00:22:25.360 So it has to be about money.

00:22:26.980 And it's just pure corruption.

00:22:28.440 This is why they had to impeach Donald Trump.

00:22:30.940 He was going to stop it.

00:22:32.180 He was like the cog in the wheel, stopping this giant war machine.

00:22:37.000 And, you know, I didn't used to be an anti-war, you know, fanatic.

00:22:40.740 In 2003, I was like, you know, a neocon pro-Iraq war.

00:22:45.360 And it's funny how all those liberals now love war.

00:22:49.160 All the anti-war left now.

00:22:50.520 He loves war.

00:22:52.060 I was one of those liberals marching against that war in 2003.

00:22:56.420 And I'm still anti-war.

00:22:58.640 So there's one of us.

00:22:59.720 There's at least one of us.

00:23:00.660 You're so consistent.

00:23:01.220 But at least on that, at least on anti-war, I'm pretty consistent.

00:23:06.420 But I do think that you make such an interesting point about how as soon as, you know, we're

00:23:11.340 talking about it, as soon as we get out of Afghanistan, we have another forever war launched. 0.50

00:23:15.740 And they keep telling us that it's a forever war.

00:23:17.940 They keep saying that we're going to be in there as long as it takes.

00:23:20.520 But they don't tell us what the end result that we're looking for is.

00:23:24.200 You had Zelensky recently talking about how he doesn't think the war can be over until Crimea is restored to Ukraine.

00:23:31.540 That's something that goes back to 2014.

00:23:33.760 And we didn't start going nuts about it then, sending all kinds of bombs and planes and breaking promises.

00:23:40.340 So why is it so urgent now that we need to do this?

00:23:43.660 And it wasn't urgent in 2014.

00:23:46.000 And what does the end of this war look like?

00:23:48.800 Does it look like the United States attacking Russia?

00:23:51.580 Is it that kind of thing?

00:23:54.380 What is it that could possibly be the end result of this?

00:23:58.100 We had no idea what the end of Afghanistan was supposed to look like.

00:24:00.900 We just kept sending guys over there, kept sending bombs and weapons over there.

00:24:05.920 And we have no idea what the end of this is supposed to look like.

00:24:08.520 There's absolutely no indication either that our leaders have any idea what it's supposed to look like.

00:24:13.540 And you were talking earlier about being a patriotic woman, patriotic mom.

00:24:17.780 And America is worth defending.

00:24:19.740 It's worth defending for sure.

00:24:22.360 But we don't see any, we have no understanding as to how fighting in Ukraine, going to war with Russia over Ukraine is actually defending the United States.

00:24:33.260 While I have you guys on, there is another clip that I need to play here since we got the moms on. 0.99

00:24:38.600 And this is the clip of Asa Hutchinson talking about, now he claims this is his parents' rights, but listen to this clip and I'd love to hear your guys' response.

00:24:46.900 And I will stop with this, but you have repeatedly described delaying a child's natural progression from childhood to adulthood through adolescence.

00:24:56.700 You've described that as, quote, treatment.

00:24:59.540 And so that raises the, I mean, clearly you've answered the question.

00:25:01.580 You believe it's treatment.

00:25:02.660 You believe, I suppose, that people can change their sex. 0.90

00:25:07.000 Because if you don't believe that, you wouldn't call it treatment, would you?

00:25:08.920 Well, God created two genders, and that's what I have stated. 0.99

00:25:20.940 And whenever you look at the decisions on that, no, I don't support that.

00:25:27.200 I wouldn't make that decision in my family about changing genders. 0.59

00:25:31.920 And I don't believe that taxpayers' funds should be used for transgender surgery or treatment through Medicaid or Medicare or in our military. 0.57

00:25:43.740 I don't believe that that should happen because traditionally, whether it's the high amendment that you prohibit.

00:25:52.000 But never actually answers the question.

00:25:54.340 And I've got to give the response, the incredible response, the tweet on this, the best tweet. 0.99

00:26:01.200 Varad Mehta says, watch Tucker Carlson gender transition Asa Hutchinson into a person who no longer has testicles. 0.94

00:26:10.280 I mean, this is, this is, this is, Peachy, explain to me. 0.97

00:26:13.480 He says, he says, you're for, you're, he said, well, no, no, no, Tucker, that's just treatment.

00:26:17.600 And Tucker says, well, if you believe that it's a form of treatment, then clearly you believe in gender transition.

00:26:24.540 Right.

00:26:24.780 And you think that it's possible to change sex, which it actually is not possible.

00:26:29.500 Peachy, why are they doing this?

00:26:30.720 Why are, why, why will he not just answer the question?

00:26:34.640 Yeah. 0.98

00:26:36.100 He's an Asa clown. 0.99

00:26:37.600 I mean, what can I say? 0.96

00:26:38.620 Um, I think that was a brutal awakening for, for, for Asa Hutchinson.

00:26:48.360 But I mean, the fact that he's even running after doing, you know, the legislation that he did in Arkansas, um, coming out in, in, in, in defense of parent rights.

00:26:57.000 I mean, you know, Gavin Newsom here in California is also trying to defend parent rights.

00:27:00.800 In other words, the right of a parent to mutilate their own and chemically castrate their own child.

00:27:05.440 Um, you know, some parents are not like other parents and, uh, I think he just does it fundamentally doesn't get it.

00:27:11.840 I think obviously Walmart, you know, is on his, um, one of his major donors and that's just what all of this is coming from.

00:27:17.540 And he's just not bright enough really to see his way out of the Tucker trap.

00:27:21.140 Why is there so much corporate pressure behind this transgender movement?

00:27:27.280 That's for, for either of you, I suppose.

00:27:29.120 Yeah.

00:27:29.420 I mean, we've seen a lot of corporate support for the entire thing.

00:27:33.200 We see it from Target and Disney and all of these other, uh, all of these other companies.

00:27:38.060 We see it every year.

00:27:39.320 And a lot of these companies too are, you know, they're, they're backing the pharmaceutical companies.

00:27:44.660 And we've seen that.

00:27:45.820 That's something that a lot of the politicians are doing.

00:27:47.880 They bring in a lot of money from pharmaceutical companies that are interested in turning our kids into lifelong medical patients who can never think for themselves or break out of these drug cycles of, you know, the blockers and the hormones and everything else.

00:28:02.640 So I think that that's a, I think the pharmaceutical companies have a big part to play in that political donations.

00:28:09.000 Um, what do you think, PG?

00:28:10.160 I think that really it's being driven by these, um, sort of younger, um, you know, kind of middle managers, the, the marketing, the HR girls who are really committed to kind of, um, you know, uh, telling their bosses what to do, how to think, how to look cool.

00:28:26.360 And to them being cool is being, uh, you know, having all these virtue signals and getting the high ESG score.

00:28:32.100 So it pays off for the companies cause they look good for, you know, for Blackstone or whoever it is, who's going to make some loan.

00:28:38.360 They, they no longer care about what the actual customer wants, what the actual family going to Disneyland wants to look at.

00:28:45.300 They want to look good for their higher ups for this, like, you know, for Kamala Harris or whatever the meeting is with Bob Iger.

00:28:51.980 So he can kind of like, you know, give them the medal as like, you are the, you are the wokest member of our Disney family or whatever it is.

00:28:57.720 And so they've just like forgotten about profits, like capitalism is like gone and you just have to like, be able to go to the cocktail party and not look like you're, you know, transphobe.

00:29:07.460 That's it.

00:29:08.100 It's very simple.

00:29:08.840 I think.

00:29:09.660 You know, it's interesting.

00:29:10.780 You say that they've forgotten about profits because for a while it didn't matter.

00:29:14.220 Uh, they were doing all of this stuff.

00:29:15.900 They were funding GLSEN and all of these other organizations and it didn't matter because conservatives were not speaking up.

00:29:21.440 They were not boycotting Maybelline and Bud Light and whoever else is doing all of this stuff, Nike, Adidas, like take your pick of companies that are going forward with this.

00:29:30.660 And I think that it has made a huge difference that conservative moms and dads have been speaking up and they've been saying, we're not going to have this in our schools.

00:29:38.000 We're not going to have this in our homes and we're not going to push this anymore.

00:29:41.140 And I think a lot of parents also know that no parent has the parental right to sterilize their children.

00:29:47.460 That's just not something anyone has the right to do.

00:29:49.760 You don't have the right to molest them.

00:29:51.820 You don't have the right to beat them.

00:29:53.480 And you don't have the right to sterilize them.

00:29:54.680 There are certain, obviously, places where we draw the line across the country.

00:29:58.980 And this is one.

00:29:59.620 You don't have the right to mistreat your children.

00:30:02.360 I'm sorry.

00:30:02.880 Pichi, we're just about out of time.

00:30:04.580 I know you've got to bounce.

00:30:05.720 Tell people where they can get your book and where they can go to follow you and all your insane ramblings.

00:30:12.200 Insane in a good way.

00:30:13.280 You guys should follow me on Twitter, at Keenan Pichi.

00:30:15.480 And my new book, Domestic Extremist, A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War, is available at Amazon and anywhere books are sold.

00:30:23.000 I was not joking, by the way.

00:30:24.880 My mom is actually reading your book because we got the box in and I left it out.

00:30:29.780 And then she came over and she goes, she's like, oh, I think this is a nice cover.

00:30:34.360 And I don't think she saw the title at first.

00:30:35.940 And then she was like, oh, yeah.

00:30:39.100 And then she saw the title and she's like, I love this.

00:30:41.660 I want to read it.

00:30:42.480 She's been reading it at the beach.

00:30:44.020 I also want to throw out that Pichi wrote an op-ed for humanevents.com this week.

00:30:48.020 That's right.

00:30:49.180 And everyone should go over to humanevents.com and check it out.

00:30:51.060 It was really terrific work.

00:30:52.240 I'm like the worst possible senior editor that Human Events has ever had.

00:30:56.040 I'm like, oh, right.

00:30:56.680 Yes, you wrote an op-ed for the website that we all run.

00:31:00.680 That's okay.

00:31:01.100 No, Pichi, thank you so much for your time.

00:31:02.560 Thank you for your energy, for your work, for your effort.

00:31:04.620 Everybody go and read her ramblings, who are the best kind of insane on the entire internet right now.

00:31:11.760 Absolutely the best.

00:31:12.660 There's like her and then Alex Jones.

00:31:14.880 This is, folks, you got to get mad.

00:31:18.340 You got to get mad when they're telling you they don't care.

00:31:21.080 This is the level of energy that you need.

00:31:22.660 Stay tuned.

00:31:23.060 We got a special segment coming up next.

00:31:27.900 All right, guys, we got a very special segment coming up.

00:31:31.180 Libby, have you ever done a meme review before?

00:31:33.680 I have not.

00:31:34.800 Neither have I.

00:31:35.420 But we're going to do it because why not, folks?

00:31:37.620 We've decided that it's time.

00:31:39.620 It's a very important, it's a solemn day, the end of Mike Pence's career.

00:31:43.480 He has officially been tucked July 14th.

00:31:46.440 It's Bastille Day, right?

00:31:47.640 Oh, my goodness.

00:31:48.580 Isn't it Bastille Day, right?

00:31:49.980 It's Bastille Day, right?

00:31:51.740 Go see Napoleon.

00:31:53.380 But we want to do the Mike Pence meme review.

00:31:56.100 So let's just go.

00:31:57.720 Is there a way you can see?

00:31:59.080 Can you see the camera over here?

00:32:00.160 Yeah, I can see it.

00:32:00.220 I can see it.

00:32:00.600 All right, let's throw up the first Pence meme.

00:32:03.020 What do we got?

00:32:04.480 What does it say?

00:32:05.420 Ignore American cities.

00:32:07.080 Embrace electronic voting.

00:32:09.220 Great job, Mike.

00:32:10.200 Great job.

00:32:11.420 That's terrific.

00:32:12.020 You're doing great.

00:32:12.700 All right, next.

00:32:16.620 What is this?

00:32:17.460 Oh, wait, put a full screen.

00:32:18.540 The kid and the girls are all around him.

00:32:20.720 But what's he looking at?

00:32:21.520 Tucker and Pence.

00:32:22.700 Oh, my goodness.

00:32:23.620 Oh, no.

00:32:24.600 I love that.

00:32:25.540 All right, so for the podcast audience.

00:32:28.700 Right, so it's a college kid who's at like a college party.

00:32:31.880 There's girls, you know, all around him.

00:32:34.880 Hotties all around him.

00:32:35.800 And he's looking down at his laptop and it's Tucker versus Pence.

00:32:38.540 Right, in bed.

00:32:39.680 He's in bed with Tucker and Pence.

00:32:40.800 Oh, is that a bed?

00:32:41.300 Yeah, it's a bed.

00:32:42.240 Amazing.

00:32:42.840 Absolutely amazing.

00:32:43.660 All right, what's next?

00:32:44.240 What do we have next?

00:32:46.540 Oh, no.

00:32:47.220 Oh, my goodness.

00:32:48.820 He disappointed me, Fredo.

00:32:50.140 It's Godfather 2 and it's Trump.

00:32:52.460 But instead of Fredo, it's Trump and Pence.

00:32:54.920 And it's going to be Tucker out in that rowboat on the lake.

00:32:57.160 Mike, I know it was you.

00:32:58.540 Yeah, he's going to.

00:32:59.180 Well, no, no, no.

00:32:59.700 You know, Tucker, will Tucker be in the boat?

00:33:01.520 Or no, Tucker's in the boat.

00:33:02.740 Tucker's in the boat.

00:33:03.400 And then Trump's on shore just watching.

00:33:06.920 He just watches it.

00:33:07.400 Out on Lake Tahoe.

00:33:07.820 Yeah.

00:33:08.300 Oh, my gosh.

00:33:09.000 All right, what do we have next?

00:33:13.680 This was kind of perfect. 0.98

00:33:15.620 This is just so ridiculous. 0.89

00:33:16.700 I like the cartoon element. 0.96

00:33:18.860 I love Tucker's face at the end.

00:33:19.840 I think this was still boneless.

00:33:21.260 So this is the, I think it's an anime, right?

00:33:23.560 Is this from like, I don't know.

00:33:24.940 I think it's from an anime.

00:33:25.880 It looks like Heidi to me.

00:33:27.140 And it's Tucker in a dress, because why not?

00:33:30.800 Pushing Pence, who's also in a dress, but in a wheelchair, off to the edge of a cliff.

00:33:34.820 And then just throwing him off smiling.

00:33:36.760 And that crazy Tucker smile.

00:33:38.840 That's basically an exact representation of what happened on stage in Iowa today.

00:33:43.940 All right, what's next?

00:33:47.420 Yes!

00:33:48.760 Okay, you'll have to tell me what this one's about.

00:33:50.800 I don't know who this guy is.

00:33:51.220 So that's the Undertaker and his unsuspecting prey.

00:33:57.600 So he thinks that, you know, so basically the other guy who thinks that everything's great,

00:34:01.760 everything's fine.

00:34:02.520 That's Mike Pence's political career.

00:34:04.320 But then behind him is the foreboding Undertaker, the dead man himself.

00:34:08.940 So it's like when the giant spider attacks Frodo.

00:34:10.180 He's ready to drag him down.

00:34:11.720 It's Axe Frodo.

00:34:12.160 Yeah, it's AJ Styles.

00:34:13.580 And it's, yeah, he's there to drag him down to the depths of the underworld.

00:34:18.780 Okay.

00:34:19.320 Exactly.

00:34:19.960 So good.

00:34:20.780 What's next?

00:34:25.500 Well, there we go.

00:34:26.560 Tanks for Ukraine. 0.93

00:34:27.240 This is a classic.

00:34:28.400 I like the classic format.

00:34:31.000 This has just become an iconic format to the point where I don't think it's played out

00:34:34.460 because it's so useful.

00:34:35.680 Well, it's just too perfect.

00:34:37.200 Where, so this is the, this is the guy with the girl who sees the other girl walking by

00:34:41.760 who's, she's out of focus.

00:34:43.220 You can't actually tell if she's more attractive, but I guess to him she is.

00:34:45.960 Well, and you, you know, we can't see her from the back. 0.87

00:34:48.240 Right.

00:34:48.500 And so that's Mike Pence.

00:34:49.780 I think they did a recreation where you actually can see them all.

00:34:52.200 Oh, really?

00:34:52.740 That's actually kind of funny.

00:34:53.800 So it's Mike Pence.

00:34:55.420 And then he's with, the girl he's with in the blue is American cities.

00:34:58.800 And the girl walking by, tanks for Ukraine.

00:35:01.680 So tanks for Ukraine is like the name.

00:35:03.600 Way hotter than American cities.

00:35:04.700 Way hotter.

00:35:05.160 Tanks for Ukraine is so hot right now.

00:35:08.400 Oh my goodness.

00:35:09.080 So hot right now.

00:35:10.060 I gotta say, as a, you know, as a New Yorker, as someone who loves a metropolis and a city,

00:35:14.700 I find what Pence said so horrifyingly offensive.

00:35:18.520 Oh, it's insane. 1.00

00:35:19.140 And it's such trash. 1.00

00:35:20.020 It's completely nuts. 0.99

00:35:20.700 No, our cities really matter.

00:35:22.220 They are the, they are.

00:35:23.080 It's so bad.

00:35:24.080 They are glistening and beautiful and full of culture and people.

00:35:27.440 And they're great.

00:35:28.260 You can't even.

00:35:28.980 You can't let them just get destroyed.

00:35:30.280 Well, this, it reminds me a little bit and hold off on the mirror view for a second.

00:35:34.220 But this reminds me of a little bit of when, when one of the best moments that a lot of

00:35:39.580 people missed from, I think it was 15 or 16, where they go, uh, where essentially they

00:35:45.920 go, where he brought up New York values.

00:35:49.400 Just remember this and you as a New Yorker, I'm sure remember this.

00:35:52.400 And then he's like, Oh, they got those New York values.

00:35:54.340 And of course, Cruz who, if you're someone who just sits and then like, you know, you're

00:35:58.860 just like, you know, sucking the spigot of, you know, uh, Fox news all day long.

00:36:05.240 And you're not talking to anybody outside the bubble.

00:36:07.340 You don't understand how like a four quadrant election works or a strategy works to win voters.

00:36:12.760 Uh, you assume that everyone's going to equate New York values with liberalism.

00:36:16.660 Um, but then, but then what does Trump do in the very next sentence?

00:36:22.680 Do you remember his response?

00:36:23.720 I don't.

00:36:24.200 His response goes, he goes, excuse me, New York values.

00:36:28.940 You're going to say that to a guy that experienced nine 11.

00:36:32.680 Oh my goodness.

00:36:33.520 That's right.

00:36:34.400 That stood there watching the towers.

00:36:36.360 And the thing with Trump and nine 11 is that we, we know there were the photos of him

00:36:39.700 raised down and the videos where he's down there, like the week of, and there's always

00:36:43.220 like, Oh, fact check.

00:36:43.940 It wasn't on the day.

00:36:44.700 It was like a couple of days later.

00:36:46.380 And you couldn't get down there on the day.

00:36:48.900 And it was like that for weeks and weeks and weeks.

00:36:50.940 The point is he wasn't just in New York when it was happening, when it happened.

00:36:55.160 He didn't just hear about nine 11.

00:36:56.900 He could smell it.

00:36:58.960 He could see it with his own eyes.

00:37:00.740 He's told the story of, of seeing the jumpers.

00:37:03.400 Yeah.

00:37:03.840 I remember seeing the, the coverage of the New York times from that of the people.

00:37:07.620 And he just, he just disemboweled Ted Cruz's entire campaign in one second.

00:37:12.840 And he did it in a second.

00:37:14.820 Yeah.

00:37:15.340 And so when people talk about, Oh, it's like, Oh, I see, I see like a lot of supporters are

00:37:20.100 saying like, Oh, we really want Trump to show up at the debates.

00:37:22.420 Are you sure?

00:37:23.160 Right.

00:37:23.640 Like, are you sure?

00:37:24.980 Because he can do exactly what Tucker just did here.

00:37:27.580 And I don't know if you want him doing that.

00:37:30.220 Plus there's, I will say that not to get into it entirely, but I do think Trump should at

00:37:35.060 least do one debate.

00:37:36.560 Not because he needs to, but because I, I refuse to be deprived of that content.

00:37:41.140 No, you were mentioning that yesterday and it is great content.

00:37:44.120 I mean, even still the debate with Hillary Clinton and all that is terrific.

00:37:48.740 I get the strategy.

00:37:49.600 I get the strategy.

00:37:50.220 He'll go up with DeSantis again, Biden again.

00:37:53.220 I would love to see him do some debates and just mop the floor with everyone.

00:37:57.620 It's really, there's something, there's something so visceral of just watching him, watching

00:38:01.720 someone, a truth teller go up against these establishment cronies.

00:38:05.760 All right, let's go to the next one.

00:38:06.600 Let's go to a couple more minutes left.

00:38:09.120 Oh, this is brutal.

00:38:10.960 Oh, this is so bad.

00:38:12.240 Oh, it's the angel. 0.61

00:38:13.340 It's the, it's the grim reaper and it's the grim reaper, um, knocking on the bloody doors

00:38:20.100 and it goes, Tim Scott, Asa Hutchinson, they really should have put Tucker's face.

00:38:24.680 And then the next one is, is Mike Pence.

00:38:27.960 And then, well, and then obviously the, the, you know, the implication is that the rest of

00:38:32.420 the doors all the way down are going to be each other candidate.

00:38:36.360 That's, that's grim.

00:38:37.640 All right.

00:38:37.820 What do we have next?

00:38:38.540 Ah, meanwhile, all these people thought they, they dodged a bullet when Tucker left Fox.

00:38:47.540 Yeah.

00:38:47.660 That's just funny.

00:38:48.320 No, it's, it's Tucker Carlson as, uh, as Conor McGregor.

00:38:51.960 Is that the last one guys?

00:38:52.840 Do we have more?

00:38:54.400 That's it.

00:38:55.140 I think it's the last one.

00:38:55.880 I think I, I love that we're ending on Tucker just laughing because he, he does it with a 0.99

00:39:00.280 smile.

00:39:00.840 He does it all with a smile as he sits there.

00:39:03.140 Maybe not so much of a smile for Pence at the end, but, but let me, let me, let me

00:39:06.580 not deserve a smile at the end.

00:39:08.140 Let me get back to you on this, this question.

00:39:11.240 And we haven't even talked about Tim Scott because the, the Penn stuff is just so insane.

00:39:16.100 You were talking about it.

00:39:17.900 Have you ever seen a candidate say something like that before?

00:39:21.180 No, no.

00:39:22.120 I haven't seen a candidate just outright say that he doesn't care about our cities.

00:39:26.560 That's, I mean, you just said live that you don't care about the population of America.

00:39:31.720 You don't care about our citizens.

00:39:33.240 You don't care about our cities.

00:39:34.860 What else do you not care about?

00:39:36.200 If you don't care about our cities, do you care about the rest of the country?

00:39:39.120 That's not my concern.

00:39:39.800 How can that not be your concern?

00:39:40.800 That's not my concern.

00:39:41.860 That's the primary concern.

00:39:43.200 The primary concern of the president should be the condition of the United States.

00:39:47.620 And yes, defending our country and representing our country on the world stage.

00:39:51.860 But you can't just let it crumble at your back while you walk off there in your tanks and

00:39:57.260 fighter jets and spending all of our hard earned, you know, wealth on other places.

00:40:03.700 Wait, which, which, which one is standing there as the entire nation burns behind him.

00:40:08.260 He is, you know, we should do another meme with fiery, but mostly peaceful, but it's America's

00:40:13.120 cities behind Pence.

00:40:14.200 And he's just standing there going, meh, it's okay.

00:40:16.180 And it's like, it's like Robert Greene.

00:40:17.680 It's like, which of the 48 laws of power is this?

00:40:20.240 Tell the people that you hate them.

00:40:22.240 Right.

00:40:22.460 Right.

00:40:22.680 This is, this is, I don't know if I remember that.

00:40:24.800 I mean, the thing is like, he wasn't going to get any votes anyway.

00:40:27.420 So it doesn't, it's not even really that significant.

00:40:29.660 I don't remember that, I don't remember that Dale Carnegie course of, you know, tell, tell

00:40:34.460 the people that you, that their, their, their concerns are worthless and that you don't

00:40:40.100 value their lives and their families.

00:40:42.080 He doesn't care about our values, our homes, our places, our culture.

00:40:45.440 And by the way, I'll say it again.

00:40:47.520 Like I, I've been in Ukraine.

00:40:49.300 We've done the show from Ukraine.

00:40:50.480 We've done, we did so much in Ukraine.

00:40:51.920 We talked to the people, we talked to the families.

00:40:53.860 You want to talk about Ukraine?

00:40:55.020 Well, let's talk about the child trafficking that's going on coming out of Ukraine right now.

00:40:58.640 That's where they just arrested one guy selling, selling a little baby boy, 11 months old, 11

00:41:04.220 months old when they're calling, oh, sound of freedoms, Q and Q and Q adjacent, right?

00:41:07.900 It's Q adjacent.

00:41:09.340 And, and they got 11 month old boy that is being sold at a Ukrainian train station for

00:41:14.040 organs.

00:41:14.940 And so let's, let's talk about, you want to talk about Ukraine?

00:41:17.180 Let's talk about the, what's best in the best interest of the Ukrainian people.

00:41:20.100 I would love to, if that's what you want to get to, but you're talking about javelin

00:41:24.060 missiles and Ukraine and tanks.

00:41:25.660 I don't know.

00:41:26.260 So anyway, look, we've got, we've got actually a great interview coming up next.

00:41:29.720 We only have her for a little bit. 1.00

00:41:30.680 We've got Tiffany justice, moms for Liberty, another extremist. 0.98

00:41:34.100 We love having all the extremists on today, all the domestic extremists on today.

00:41:38.220 So stay tuned.

00:41:38.960 We're going to be right back with Tiffany justice.

00:41:40.580 Cause I really want to hear her on this topic.

00:41:43.100 Stay tuned.

00:41:43.640 Human events continues.

00:41:44.420 When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods and then boys had a saying, you can't

00:41:53.640 be listening to all that slappy whack trim out as all it's a bam ship, nippy, bam, bam,

00:41:58.420 like human events with Jack Posobiec.

00:42:00.680 All right, Jack Posobiec here with Libby Emmons.

00:42:05.440 Very excited to bring on now, Tiffany justice moms for Liberty.

00:42:09.860 Tiffany, I don't know if you had a chance to be listening to any of this.

00:42:13.820 It's the Iowa family leadership.

00:42:15.760 I don't think we didn't even say it yet.

00:42:17.200 It's the Iowa family leadership forum.

00:42:18.740 There was a comment though, from Asa Hutchinson, who's running and Tucker Carlson asked him

00:42:26.740 this, this brilliant question to say, he said, governor, if you believe that there are only

00:42:33.400 two genders, then why did you say that you believe that hormonal treatments are a valid

00:42:39.640 for, or are that hormone therapy is a valid form of treatment?

00:42:43.780 Because isn't that tacitly agreeing with the fact that there are multiple genders and that

00:42:49.500 you can transition your gender and this guy, he just falls apart. 0.99

00:42:52.960 It's like, it's a complete world word salad from him.

00:42:56.100 And I got to ask you, um, you know, what does it say to you that there are leaders in this

00:43:02.320 country that, that hold these beliefs or are willing to go in with them because there's,

00:43:08.020 it's lucrative there's, or, or, you know, political donations, et cetera.

00:43:11.280 What, what is your response to something like that?

00:43:14.760 Well, I think it's fascinating.

00:43:16.380 Asa Hutchinson spoke at our, during our summit and I had moms texting me from all over the

00:43:20.820 room who were saying, um, this is a problem.

00:43:23.300 What he's saying is a lie.

00:43:24.660 He vetoed the do not harm bill.

00:43:26.420 We can see right through him.

00:43:27.840 You cannot believe what he's saying.

00:43:29.060 And yet here you have a presidential candidate on a stage talking about, uh, the fact that

00:43:33.580 he's against, um, the idea of gender affirming care when his actions don't mirror that.

00:43:38.680 So, um, I don't think he's fooling anyone.

00:43:41.600 I think you're right.

00:43:42.280 The word salad just shows that people like to try to play both sides of this issue.

00:43:47.060 And there are not two sides.

00:43:48.520 There are wanting children to be able to be raised and grow up, uh, to become their whole

00:43:53.720 selves.

00:43:54.360 And then there is other treatment that, that people call treatment that really is stopping

00:43:58.940 their natural development through puberty.

00:44:00.680 And as Libby and I have witnessed firsthand, some of the detransitioners, the things that 1.00

00:44:05.700 they talk about, the damage to their bone density, the harms that they continue to have

00:44:10.460 from all of these so-called gender affirming surgeries are, I mean, it's just awful. 1.00

00:44:15.380 So, um, I think Asa Hutchinson, you know, they stand for the truth and the truth will always

00:44:20.160 show itself.

00:44:20.680 And I think, you know, especially with, with someone like this, I think you're going to want

00:44:23.960 to hear the truth from them and then we can all make our decisions going forward.

00:44:26.840 And, and, and it's so, it's so strange to me because here's someone that we're, you know,

00:44:32.540 we're told this is a conservative leader.

00:44:34.860 This is someone who's supposed to be standing up for the same beliefs that we all go for

00:44:39.280 because like, you know, to, in a sense, you know, you'd expect it from the left, right?

00:44:43.180 You'd expect it from the far left that they would push something like this, but isn't

00:44:47.280 it incredible?

00:44:48.280 And I have to ask your, your comment on that as well, that, that there are people who are

00:44:53.200 on the conservative side of the aisle that would be co-signing this kind of stuff.

00:44:58.620 Well, I think what it really was, was him not being willing to take a stand on this issue.

00:45:03.560 And, and, you know, this issue has been difficult.

00:45:05.500 I'm not going to lie because from a parental rights standpoint, yes, we believe that every

00:45:09.920 parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their child.

00:45:13.000 But when you're talking about abuse and, and, and from our opinion, this is child abuse.

00:45:17.940 Um, the fact that you would, you know, children cannot consent to puberty blockers.

00:45:21.720 The fact that, you know, children are being sterilized.

00:45:24.240 We can't, you know, gloss over the fact that these people, a lot of these children that

00:45:28.840 go on puberty blockers and have these surgeries will never be able to have children.

00:45:32.960 I certainly didn't know at the age of 12 that I wanted to be a mom, right?

00:45:36.760 Um, so, you know, we have to take a harder stand on these issues.

00:45:40.540 We've always seen this as an issue of the standard of care for gender dysphoria rather than a parental

00:45:45.520 rights issue.

00:45:46.240 No parent has the right to abuse their child.

00:45:48.640 And we have always felt that if parents had accurate information when it came to puberty

00:45:52.940 blockers, when it came to these surgeries, that they would know the harms.

00:45:56.820 And that's been the issue all along, Jack, that there hasn't been honesty in informing

00:46:00.940 parents about the real long-term harms of puberty blockers.

00:46:04.000 And you see Asa Hutchinson, you know, not being able to engage on this issue, honestly.

00:46:08.120 And, you know, I hope American parents are watching.

00:46:11.040 Yeah.

00:46:11.560 It's interesting too, what you were saying, Tiffany, about parents not having the right to

00:46:15.240 abuse their children. 0.57

00:46:16.260 And we see language from the left.

00:46:18.360 We see language from people like State Senator Scott Wiener, who are saying that it is abuse

00:46:23.700 to not allow your children to go through with puberty blockers and testosterone, estrogen

00:46:29.340 treatments, surgeries in many cases.

00:46:32.040 How much do you think the language has to do with this issue?

00:46:37.120 Both sides are saying abuse means something completely different.

00:46:41.560 I think both sides are saying that care means something completely different too, right?

00:46:45.520 That's true too.

00:46:46.440 But if you're a parent, you want to safeguard your child's health and protection.

00:46:50.300 And Libby, I just really believe that when parents are shown the evidence of the harms

00:46:54.540 of puberty blockers on children, and they realize that these things are not reversible,

00:46:59.700 that the, you know, in Tanner Stage 2, if boys in the ages of 9 through 12 go on puberty blockers,

00:47:04.800 they'll never have an orgasm in their entire lives.

00:47:07.500 How can a child make that tension, right?

00:47:09.640 So I think language is very important.

00:47:13.000 Yeah, and especially when you have the left also simultaneously pushing education about

00:47:18.160 sexual pleasure on kindergartners, and then they're encouraging kindergartners to grow into

00:47:22.340 teenagers so that they can deny them of any kind of sexual satisfaction for literally the

00:47:27.420 rest of their lives.

00:47:28.600 It is really shocking to see how that all goes down.

00:47:33.800 Yeah.

00:47:34.780 The marks are not interested in having honest conversation.

00:47:37.700 It's never about real dialogue.

00:47:38.980 It's always about a manipulation of the language, so.

00:47:42.140 Why do you think that there used to be this idea with gender transition, gender dysphoria

00:47:46.640 for kids and teenagers that you would undertake something called watchful waiting, and you would

00:47:51.440 allow a child to grow up, you would allow them to grow out of it, you would allow them to figure

00:47:56.000 out who they are without a whole bunch of overarching, forceful change on them.

00:48:01.640 Why do you think that that concept has been so pushed aside?

00:48:04.840 Well, I think the medical community in America has largely been captured, like all of the other

00:48:10.420 institutions that we have seen, right?

00:48:12.580 So again, it's that honest information, not getting to parents.

00:48:16.300 So I think, again, parents need honest information about puberty blockers, and I believe that most

00:48:20.440 parents, when they know the harms of a lot of these things, will make a different decision than going

00:48:25.000 down that path for their child.

00:48:26.660 What we also know, and we saw at Tavistock, was that a large percentage of these children

00:48:30.940 are often suffering from autism as well, and that's something that I don't think gets talked

00:48:35.620 enough about in America.

00:48:37.100 I went on Dr. Phil, and you're allowed to ask him one question.

00:48:39.760 I've been on twice.

00:48:41.000 Once I asked him something about CRT, the second time I was on about parental rights, and I asked

00:48:45.440 him, sir, like, what does it say to you that you have all of these children that are vulnerable

00:48:50.520 in these different ways, and yet they're kind of being lured down this gender transition

00:48:55.000 path, and he didn't have a good answer for that.

00:48:57.460 They unfortunately cut that from the show, but I think it's something important that we

00:49:01.100 should be talking more about in America.

00:49:03.120 Amen.

00:49:03.800 Tiffany, just about the out of time for the show, where can people go to follow you and

00:49:07.300 get more of your reactions and your work on this topic?

00:49:11.220 Yeah, momsforliberty.org.

00:49:12.920 You can check out my hat.

00:49:14.620 We've got lots of more tonight on the show.

Human Events Daily with Jack Posobiec - July 14, 2023

EPISODE 517： THE DEATH OF MIKE PENCE'S POLITICAL CAREER

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