EPISODE 517： THE DEATH OF MIKE PENCE'S POLITICAL CAREER
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On today's show, Jack Posobiec is joined by Libby Emmons, editor-in-chief of the Post Millennial, and the great Libby Eichenauer, to discuss the latest events in the world of politics.
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They're still going to have a long border with Russia.
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And he was able to make President Zelensky understand just how committed the United States is to the long term,
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both in terms of their security, but also in terms of their eventual membership in NATO.
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But we want to make sure that Ukraine has what it needs to be able to continue the fight.
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While that expansion is taking place, these cluster munitions act as kind of a bridging capability.
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I think his whole testimony shows the FBI is actually broken under his leadership.
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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday approved the first over-the-counter
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contraceptive pill, paving the way for millions of Americans to purchase birth control without
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We may never know who brought cocaine into the West Wing.
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The Secret Service says it's closing its investigation because of a, quote, lack of physical evidence.
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I don't think it's satisfactory to the American people that drugs could get into the White House.
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It's the same Secret Service that guards all our presidents.
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No one can join NATO while a war is going on where a NATO nation is being attacked because
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that guarantees that we're in a war and we're in a third world war.
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What is your reaction when you see cocaine in the White House?
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I put out a truth, in my opinion, it's Hunter and probably Joe.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events, live with Jack Posovic.
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And today we're joined by the great Libby Emmons, the editor-in-chief of Human Events and
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Mike Pence, his career, I think it might be over.
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We'll leave the mics open, but let's just play it in its entirety for the audience to
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You are distressed that the Ukrainians don't have enough American tanks.
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Every city in the United States has become much worse over the past three years.
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There's not one city that's gotten better in the United States.
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Public filth and disorder and crime have exponentially increased.
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And yet, your concern is that the Ukrainians, a country most people can't find on a map, who've
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received tens of billions of U.S. tax dollars, don't have enough tanks.
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Like, where's the concern for the United States in that?
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Tucker, I've heard that routine from you before, but that's not my concern.
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I'm running for president of the United States because I think this country's in a lot of
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Because I was going to write the transcript, and I was on Twitter, on the computer, I was
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going to write the transcript out, and I said, did he say not my concern?
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He said failing American cities are not his concern.
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Because I thought, and I'm sitting there thinking, all right, is this a live event?
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Tucker, I've heard this routine before, and that's not my, he keeps sniffling.
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He's trying to actually suck the air out of the room so Tucker can't speak because he's
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Mike Pence will never hold public office again in the United States.
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How do you tell people that you're not concerned for their well-being?
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This is a man who was vice president of the United States.
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And he's way more interested in what's happening in Eastern Europe than he is in what's happening
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They don't care even half as much about what's going on in some far off place, which, as
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Tucker correctly pointed out, due to our incredibly poor educational system, hardly anyone could
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We're coming up on a break, but this is just it's so unbelievable.
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We've got our next guest is lined up, Libby, one of your favorite guests, one of my favorite
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But before we have to get into that, I just want to say, I'm actually, I'm going to say
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I think sometimes I think sideways, because this is what I'm going to say.
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We understand that our politicians know the state of our cities.
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They know the state of everything falling apart.
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And now we have it straight from the horse's mouth.
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That Pence, and by the way, he'll try to explain this away.
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I predict within the next, within minutes, by the way, if it's probably, if it hasn't
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He was saying I was, I was concerned about both.
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Your concern is expanding America's footprint, getting involved with wars overseas, getting
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involved with the ventures, destabilizing Ukraine to the point where this war was started
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But someone who I want to go off even more on Mike Pence and also Joe Biden, because
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as we heard last night, we haven't gotten into it, Libby.
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3,000 reservists are being deployed to active duty to Eastern Europe directly to the Eastern
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Ladies and gentlemen, the great Peachy Keenan, the domestic extremist author herself, joins
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What is your sense of Pence's comments, the Ukraine, this deployment that's going on?
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Are we finally understanding what's actually going on inside our government?
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I mean, when he says none of this is his concern.
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And my only concern really going into 2024 are the five concerns I call my children.
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I have three boys and my oldest is actually turning 18 this year.
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And so for the last couple of years, ever since Joe Biden, you know, got elected, you
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know, got elected, I've been concerned about this.
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And I've been, you know, as they keep escalating the war in Ukraine, I'm getting more and more
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Like, is this something I even have to think about?
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Could they be, you know, he gets his selective service form in the mail.
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You know, I don't want him ever or any of his friends or any young American to spend
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one second fighting for Ukraine, to spend one second fighting for these objectives that
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You know, when I start hearing a politician talk about we need to project American global
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power around the world, I want to hide my children.
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And I don't even know what they're sleepwalking us into.
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But yeah, like you said, it's incredibly great to hear the words come out of their mouth.
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And we saw in March 2022 that President Biden said at the time that there would not be U.S.
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And each step of the way, he continues to change his mind and say something different.
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And he was like, Mom, is this going to be a thing?
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And like you said, there has not been any clear indication as to why we would be going
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to fight in Ukraine, what our purpose would be.
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They tell us it's defending democracy, but they literally say that about everything.
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I guess I'll commend Mike Pence in a sense here.
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It's a unique and creative strategy to just straight up tell the American people that you
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I don't care that your cities are shooting galleries.
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We don't care about suicide statistics going up.
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What we really care about is war and more of it, especially war with the Russians.
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And then Tim Scott, we have the clip later, but I don't even know if we'll play it.
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But, you know, they asked Tim Scott, they said, you know, Tucker says, why do we need
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And then Tucker sits there and explains how we're funding the entire war effort, the entire
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Ukrainian government, not just the military, but the government paying their pensions
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and sitting there going, like, have you never even considered these things?
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But you look at I wouldn't say they necessarily ended Tim Scott's career, but potentially he's
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Mike Pence has done he I mean, Tucker is a walking cluster munition up there and he's
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just taking out candidate after candidate, rhetorical bomblets, rhetorical bomblets.
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And then we saw Marguerite Taylor Greene yesterday talking about how she believes that it was
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the Burisma CEO who gave the bribe to Joe Biden.
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You know, this is so now we're lining their pockets after they lined everybody's tweeting
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And it's like, come on, are we really acting like these are revelations?
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Maybe maybe maybe Joe's the big guy and Pence is the little guy.
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I mean, what other explanation can there be for all of these GOP candidates who are supposed
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to be on our side, actively working against the interests of families and their teenage
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And consigning us all to live among, like you said, the filth and the tense and the crime
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Like, is there like a guy with a briefcase and eight by 10 glossies of them doing things
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One candidate can just come forward and say definitively, there will never be a draft on
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We will never commit American troops on the ground to these places.
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And let's let's get into that, because this is something where I got we were going to play
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it today, but we ended up getting this this forum wanted to get into that.
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But five months ago, I posted this pre-creation of Joe Biden talking, basically announcing
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And then all of a sudden, this order comes out without an announcement from the White
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So, I mean, for someone who's out there, let's NPTU, let's let's say throw it to you
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What are the moms of America thinking right now when you're where you're hearing the D
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That's and it's it's I could pull up the list, but it's, you know, the 18 year olds go first.
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You know, I was warning friends about this right when Biden got in.
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I wrote an essay for the American mind trying to warn people like, do not let your sons go
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And there were kids at our school who were joining ROTC, who were joining the academies.
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And I was like, oh, you know, I'm a little worried about them.
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But these parents, a lot of them are still under the living under this sort of like 1980s
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Reagan kind of fantasy of what our military is.
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But then we had the you know, when the the the stand down when they wanted to go through
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all the ranks and find out who all the domestic extremists were.
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And my brother in law was a reservist and he was telling me what they were forcing him
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So it was very clear that, you know, the military themselves were considered the enemy to our
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And so it was always obvious, like you would never send your child to be there to be to
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work for people, to defend a country that hates you, a government that hates you.
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DOD that is looking to kind of arrest you if you have the wrong conservative beliefs and
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So, yeah, my kids are you just they were just never going to do it.
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And the fact that they would just so blithely pull up, we're 3,000, you know, reservists.
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And I mean, yeah, our recruiting is in the toilet.
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And for obvious reasons, these career military families, these traditionally where, you know,
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I think 60 percent or something or more of the military infantry has been drawn from these
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families where the grandpa served and the father served.
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They're now telling their kids, do not fight for these people.
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I would not commit one American to fight or get hurt or die for anyone in our government
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And it's just it's hard because we don't even know where what what what we stand for
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We stand for sending money to Zelensky like and propping up this puppet state.
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You know, if it was a case of people were invading our shores and like coming down, you know,
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Sunset Boulevard here in Los Angeles that we had to fight for our lives, that's a different
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But they just seem to be inventing these fake wars for for that to keep them keep the money,
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keep the keep the money flowing into their accounts.
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I mean, I was so hopeful after we pulled out of Afghanistan.
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You know, we're coming on a quick break, but I do want to get you on after this.
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Why was it that it feels like this got turned on right after the Afghanistan withdrawal?
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And just after the 20 years of that ends, boom, another one starts.
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I'd love if we, so let me, let me, let me, let me go through this a little bit more with
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We kind of got cut off because you brought up the great insight, though, that it was Afghanistan
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for 20 years, where all the military-age males of the United States would go there, go there,
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You thought that it wound down, that we weren't going to have it anymore.
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It seemed like, I was so thrilled at the time, like, oh, finally, the money spigots are off.
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We can now divert our resources to where they need to go.
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They need to go back into American people, American infrastructure, build factories where
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And instead, it really did feel like overnight they conjured up this new war.
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I think that if he'd been president, not a single person on either side would have died.
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And now what we're doing is willfully, voluntarily committing all of us to some another 20-year
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He was like the cog in the wheel, stopping this giant war machine.
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And, you know, I didn't used to be an anti-war, you know, fanatic.
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In 2003, I was like, you know, a neocon pro-Iraq war.
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And it's funny how all those liberals now love war.
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I was one of those liberals marching against that war in 2003.
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But at least on that, at least on anti-war, I'm pretty consistent.
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But I do think that you make such an interesting point about how as soon as, you know, we're
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talking about it, as soon as we get out of Afghanistan, we have another forever war launched.
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And they keep telling us that it's a forever war.
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They keep saying that we're going to be in there as long as it takes.
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But they don't tell us what the end result that we're looking for is.
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You had Zelensky recently talking about how he doesn't think the war can be over until Crimea is restored to Ukraine.
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And we didn't start going nuts about it then, sending all kinds of bombs and planes and breaking promises.
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So why is it so urgent now that we need to do this?
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Does it look like the United States attacking Russia?
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What is it that could possibly be the end result of this?
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We had no idea what the end of Afghanistan was supposed to look like.
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We just kept sending guys over there, kept sending bombs and weapons over there.
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And we have no idea what the end of this is supposed to look like.
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There's absolutely no indication either that our leaders have any idea what it's supposed to look like.
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And you were talking earlier about being a patriotic woman, patriotic mom.
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But we don't see any, we have no understanding as to how fighting in Ukraine, going to war with Russia over Ukraine is actually defending the United States.
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While I have you guys on, there is another clip that I need to play here since we got the moms on.
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And this is the clip of Asa Hutchinson talking about, now he claims this is his parents' rights, but listen to this clip and I'd love to hear your guys' response.
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And I will stop with this, but you have repeatedly described delaying a child's natural progression from childhood to adulthood through adolescence.
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And so that raises the, I mean, clearly you've answered the question.
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You believe, I suppose, that people can change their sex.
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Because if you don't believe that, you wouldn't call it treatment, would you?
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Well, God created two genders, and that's what I have stated.
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And whenever you look at the decisions on that, no, I don't support that.
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I wouldn't make that decision in my family about changing genders.
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And I don't believe that taxpayers' funds should be used for transgender surgery or treatment through Medicaid or Medicare or in our military.
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I don't believe that that should happen because traditionally, whether it's the high amendment that you prohibit.
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And I've got to give the response, the incredible response, the tweet on this, the best tweet.
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Varad Mehta says, watch Tucker Carlson gender transition Asa Hutchinson into a person who no longer has testicles.
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I mean, this is, this is, this is, Peachy, explain to me.
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He says, he says, you're for, you're, he said, well, no, no, no, Tucker, that's just treatment.
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And Tucker says, well, if you believe that it's a form of treatment, then clearly you believe in gender transition.
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And you think that it's possible to change sex, which it actually is not possible.
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Why are, why, why will he not just answer the question?
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Um, I think that was a brutal awakening for, for, for Asa Hutchinson.
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But I mean, the fact that he's even running after doing, you know, the legislation that he did in Arkansas, um, coming out in, in, in, in defense of parent rights.
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I mean, you know, Gavin Newsom here in California is also trying to defend parent rights.
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In other words, the right of a parent to mutilate their own and chemically castrate their own child.
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Um, you know, some parents are not like other parents and, uh, I think he just does it fundamentally doesn't get it.
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I think obviously Walmart, you know, is on his, um, one of his major donors and that's just what all of this is coming from.
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And he's just not bright enough really to see his way out of the Tucker trap.
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Why is there so much corporate pressure behind this transgender movement?
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I mean, we've seen a lot of corporate support for the entire thing.
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We see it from Target and Disney and all of these other, uh, all of these other companies.
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And a lot of these companies too are, you know, they're, they're backing the pharmaceutical companies.
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That's something that a lot of the politicians are doing.
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They bring in a lot of money from pharmaceutical companies that are interested in turning our kids into lifelong medical patients who can never think for themselves or break out of these drug cycles of, you know, the blockers and the hormones and everything else.
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So I think that that's a, I think the pharmaceutical companies have a big part to play in that political donations.
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I think that really it's being driven by these, um, sort of younger, um, you know, kind of middle managers, the, the marketing, the HR girls who are really committed to kind of, um, you know, uh, telling their bosses what to do, how to think, how to look cool.
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And to them being cool is being, uh, you know, having all these virtue signals and getting the high ESG score.
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So it pays off for the companies cause they look good for, you know, for Blackstone or whoever it is, who's going to make some loan.
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They, they no longer care about what the actual customer wants, what the actual family going to Disneyland wants to look at.
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They want to look good for their higher ups for this, like, you know, for Kamala Harris or whatever the meeting is with Bob Iger.
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So he can kind of like, you know, give them the medal as like, you are the, you are the wokest member of our Disney family or whatever it is.
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And so they've just like forgotten about profits, like capitalism is like gone and you just have to like, be able to go to the cocktail party and not look like you're, you know, transphobe.
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You say that they've forgotten about profits because for a while it didn't matter.
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They were funding GLSEN and all of these other organizations and it didn't matter because conservatives were not speaking up.
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They were not boycotting Maybelline and Bud Light and whoever else is doing all of this stuff, Nike, Adidas, like take your pick of companies that are going forward with this.
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And I think that it has made a huge difference that conservative moms and dads have been speaking up and they've been saying, we're not going to have this in our schools.
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We're not going to have this in our homes and we're not going to push this anymore.
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And I think a lot of parents also know that no parent has the parental right to sterilize their children.
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That's just not something anyone has the right to do.
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And you don't have the right to sterilize them.
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There are certain, obviously, places where we draw the line across the country.
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You don't have the right to mistreat your children.
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Tell people where they can get your book and where they can go to follow you and all your insane ramblings.
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You guys should follow me on Twitter, at Keenan Pichi.
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And my new book, Domestic Extremist, A Practical Guide to Winning the Culture War, is available at Amazon and anywhere books are sold.
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My mom is actually reading your book because we got the box in and I left it out.
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And then she came over and she goes, she's like, oh, I think this is a nice cover.
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And then she saw the title and she's like, I love this.
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I also want to throw out that Pichi wrote an op-ed for humanevents.com this week.
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And everyone should go over to humanevents.com and check it out.
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I'm like the worst possible senior editor that Human Events has ever had.
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Yes, you wrote an op-ed for the website that we all run.
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Thank you for your energy, for your work, for your effort.
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Everybody go and read her ramblings, who are the best kind of insane on the entire internet right now.
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You got to get mad when they're telling you they don't care.
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All right, guys, we got a very special segment coming up.
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Libby, have you ever done a meme review before?
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But we're going to do it because why not, folks?
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It's a very important, it's a solemn day, the end of Mike Pence's career.
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All right, let's throw up the first Pence meme.
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Right, so it's a college kid who's at like a college party.
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And he's looking down at his laptop and it's Tucker versus Pence.
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And it's going to be Tucker out in that rowboat on the lake.
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Pushing Pence, who's also in a dress, but in a wheelchair, off to the edge of a cliff.
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That's basically an exact representation of what happened on stage in Iowa today.
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Okay, you'll have to tell me what this one's about.
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So that's the Undertaker and his unsuspecting prey.
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So he thinks that, you know, so basically the other guy who thinks that everything's great,
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But then behind him is the foreboding Undertaker, the dead man himself.
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So it's like when the giant spider attacks Frodo.
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And it's, yeah, he's there to drag him down to the depths of the underworld.
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This has just become an iconic format to the point where I don't think it's played out
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Where, so this is the, this is the guy with the girl who sees the other girl walking by
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You can't actually tell if she's more attractive, but I guess to him she is.
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Well, and you, you know, we can't see her from the back.
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I think they did a recreation where you actually can see them all.
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And then he's with, the girl he's with in the blue is American cities.
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I gotta say, as a, you know, as a New Yorker, as someone who loves a metropolis and a city,
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I find what Pence said so horrifyingly offensive.
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They are glistening and beautiful and full of culture and people.
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Well, this, it reminds me a little bit and hold off on the mirror view for a second.
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But this reminds me of a little bit of when, when one of the best moments that a lot of
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people missed from, I think it was 15 or 16, where they go, uh, where essentially they
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Just remember this and you as a New Yorker, I'm sure remember this.
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And then he's like, Oh, they got those New York values.
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And of course, Cruz who, if you're someone who just sits and then like, you know, you're
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just like, you know, sucking the spigot of, you know, uh, Fox news all day long.
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And you're not talking to anybody outside the bubble.
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You don't understand how like a four quadrant election works or a strategy works to win voters.
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Uh, you assume that everyone's going to equate New York values with liberalism.
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Um, but then, but then what does Trump do in the very next sentence?
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His response goes, he goes, excuse me, New York values.
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You're going to say that to a guy that experienced nine 11.
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And the thing with Trump and nine 11 is that we, we know there were the photos of him
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raised down and the videos where he's down there, like the week of, and there's always
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And it was like that for weeks and weeks and weeks.
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The point is he wasn't just in New York when it was happening, when it happened.
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I remember seeing the, the coverage of the New York times from that of the people.
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And he just, he just disemboweled Ted Cruz's entire campaign in one second.
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And so when people talk about, Oh, it's like, Oh, I see, I see like a lot of supporters are
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saying like, Oh, we really want Trump to show up at the debates.
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Because he can do exactly what Tucker just did here.
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Plus there's, I will say that not to get into it entirely, but I do think Trump should at
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Not because he needs to, but because I, I refuse to be deprived of that content.
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No, you were mentioning that yesterday and it is great content.
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I mean, even still the debate with Hillary Clinton and all that is terrific.
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I would love to see him do some debates and just mop the floor with everyone.
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It's really, there's something, there's something so visceral of just watching him, watching
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someone, a truth teller go up against these establishment cronies.
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It's the, it's the grim reaper and it's the grim reaper, um, knocking on the bloody doors
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and it goes, Tim Scott, Asa Hutchinson, they really should have put Tucker's face.
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And then, well, and then obviously the, the, you know, the implication is that the rest of
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the doors all the way down are going to be each other candidate.
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Ah, meanwhile, all these people thought they, they dodged a bullet when Tucker left Fox.
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No, it's, it's Tucker Carlson as, uh, as Conor McGregor.
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I think I, I love that we're ending on Tucker just laughing because he, he does it with a
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Maybe not so much of a smile for Pence at the end, but, but let me, let me, let me
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And we haven't even talked about Tim Scott because the, the Penn stuff is just so insane.
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Have you ever seen a candidate say something like that before?
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I haven't seen a candidate just outright say that he doesn't care about our cities.
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That's, I mean, you just said live that you don't care about the population of America.
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If you don't care about our cities, do you care about the rest of the country?
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The primary concern of the president should be the condition of the United States.
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And yes, defending our country and representing our country on the world stage.
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But you can't just let it crumble at your back while you walk off there in your tanks and
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fighter jets and spending all of our hard earned, you know, wealth on other places.
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Wait, which, which, which one is standing there as the entire nation burns behind him.
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He is, you know, we should do another meme with fiery, but mostly peaceful, but it's America's
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And he's just standing there going, meh, it's okay.
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It's like, which of the 48 laws of power is this?
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This is, this is, I don't know if I remember that.
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I mean, the thing is like, he wasn't going to get any votes anyway.
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So it doesn't, it's not even really that significant.
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I don't remember that, I don't remember that Dale Carnegie course of, you know, tell, tell
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the people that you, that their, their, their concerns are worthless and that you don't
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He doesn't care about our values, our homes, our places, our culture.
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We talked to the people, we talked to the families.
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Well, let's talk about the child trafficking that's going on coming out of Ukraine right now.
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That's where they just arrested one guy selling, selling a little baby boy, 11 months old, 11
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months old when they're calling, oh, sound of freedoms, Q and Q and Q adjacent, right?
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And, and they got 11 month old boy that is being sold at a Ukrainian train station for
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And so let's, let's talk about, you want to talk about Ukraine?
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Let's talk about the, what's best in the best interest of the Ukrainian people.
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I would love to, if that's what you want to get to, but you're talking about javelin
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So anyway, look, we've got, we've got actually a great interview coming up next.
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We've got Tiffany justice, moms for Liberty, another extremist.
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We love having all the extremists on today, all the domestic extremists on today.
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We're going to be right back with Tiffany justice.
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When I grew up in the hood, I rolled with bloods and then boys had a saying, you can't
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be listening to all that slappy whack trim out as all it's a bam ship, nippy, bam, bam,
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All right, Jack Posobiec here with Libby Emmons.
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Very excited to bring on now, Tiffany justice moms for Liberty.
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Tiffany, I don't know if you had a chance to be listening to any of this.
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There was a comment though, from Asa Hutchinson, who's running and Tucker Carlson asked him
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this, this brilliant question to say, he said, governor, if you believe that there are only
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two genders, then why did you say that you believe that hormonal treatments are a valid
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for, or are that hormone therapy is a valid form of treatment?
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Because isn't that tacitly agreeing with the fact that there are multiple genders and that
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you can transition your gender and this guy, he just falls apart.
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It's like, it's a complete world word salad from him.
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And I got to ask you, um, you know, what does it say to you that there are leaders in this
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country that, that hold these beliefs or are willing to go in with them because there's,
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it's lucrative there's, or, or, you know, political donations, et cetera.
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What, what is your response to something like that?
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Asa Hutchinson spoke at our, during our summit and I had moms texting me from all over the
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And yet here you have a presidential candidate on a stage talking about, uh, the fact that
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he's against, um, the idea of gender affirming care when his actions don't mirror that.
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The word salad just shows that people like to try to play both sides of this issue.
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There are wanting children to be able to be raised and grow up, uh, to become their whole
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And then there is other treatment that, that people call treatment that really is stopping
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And as Libby and I have witnessed firsthand, some of the detransitioners, the things that
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they talk about, the damage to their bone density, the harms that they continue to have
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from all of these so-called gender affirming surgeries are, I mean, it's just awful.
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So, um, I think Asa Hutchinson, you know, they stand for the truth and the truth will always
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And I think, you know, especially with, with someone like this, I think you're going to want
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to hear the truth from them and then we can all make our decisions going forward.
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And, and, and it's so, it's so strange to me because here's someone that we're, you know,
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This is someone who's supposed to be standing up for the same beliefs that we all go for
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because like, you know, to, in a sense, you know, you'd expect it from the left, right?
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You'd expect it from the far left that they would push something like this, but isn't
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And I have to ask your, your comment on that as well, that, that there are people who are
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on the conservative side of the aisle that would be co-signing this kind of stuff.
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Well, I think what it really was, was him not being willing to take a stand on this issue.
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And, and, you know, this issue has been difficult.
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I'm not going to lie because from a parental rights standpoint, yes, we believe that every
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parent has the fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their child.
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But when you're talking about abuse and, and, and from our opinion, this is child abuse.
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Um, the fact that you would, you know, children cannot consent to puberty blockers.
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The fact that, you know, children are being sterilized.
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We can't, you know, gloss over the fact that these people, a lot of these children that
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go on puberty blockers and have these surgeries will never be able to have children.
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I certainly didn't know at the age of 12 that I wanted to be a mom, right?
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Um, so, you know, we have to take a harder stand on these issues.
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We've always seen this as an issue of the standard of care for gender dysphoria rather than a parental
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And we have always felt that if parents had accurate information when it came to puberty
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blockers, when it came to these surgeries, that they would know the harms.
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And that's been the issue all along, Jack, that there hasn't been honesty in informing
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parents about the real long-term harms of puberty blockers.
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And you see Asa Hutchinson, you know, not being able to engage on this issue, honestly.
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And, you know, I hope American parents are watching.
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It's interesting too, what you were saying, Tiffany, about parents not having the right to
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We see language from people like State Senator Scott Wiener, who are saying that it is abuse
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to not allow your children to go through with puberty blockers and testosterone, estrogen
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How much do you think the language has to do with this issue?
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Both sides are saying abuse means something completely different.
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I think both sides are saying that care means something completely different too, right?
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But if you're a parent, you want to safeguard your child's health and protection.
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And Libby, I just really believe that when parents are shown the evidence of the harms
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of puberty blockers on children, and they realize that these things are not reversible,
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that the, you know, in Tanner Stage 2, if boys in the ages of 9 through 12 go on puberty blockers,
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they'll never have an orgasm in their entire lives.
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Yeah, and especially when you have the left also simultaneously pushing education about
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sexual pleasure on kindergartners, and then they're encouraging kindergartners to grow into
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teenagers so that they can deny them of any kind of sexual satisfaction for literally the
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It is really shocking to see how that all goes down.
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The marks are not interested in having honest conversation.
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It's always about a manipulation of the language, so.
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Why do you think that there used to be this idea with gender transition, gender dysphoria
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for kids and teenagers that you would undertake something called watchful waiting, and you would
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allow a child to grow up, you would allow them to grow out of it, you would allow them to figure
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out who they are without a whole bunch of overarching, forceful change on them.
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Why do you think that that concept has been so pushed aside?
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Well, I think the medical community in America has largely been captured, like all of the other
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So again, it's that honest information, not getting to parents.
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So I think, again, parents need honest information about puberty blockers, and I believe that most
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parents, when they know the harms of a lot of these things, will make a different decision than going
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What we also know, and we saw at Tavistock, was that a large percentage of these children
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are often suffering from autism as well, and that's something that I don't think gets talked
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I went on Dr. Phil, and you're allowed to ask him one question.
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Once I asked him something about CRT, the second time I was on about parental rights, and I asked
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him, sir, like, what does it say to you that you have all of these children that are vulnerable
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in these different ways, and yet they're kind of being lured down this gender transition
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path, and he didn't have a good answer for that.
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They unfortunately cut that from the show, but I think it's something important that we
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Tiffany, just about the out of time for the show, where can people go to follow you and
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get more of your reactions and your work on this topic?